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Log from 2006-11-01:
--- Day changed Wed Nov 01 2006
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00:14 <DrJoeTron> well i ust found the best shmup in a while
00:15 <DrJoeTron> http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cs8k-cyu/windows/tt_e.html its like tempest but 1000mph
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01:07 <Vanhayes> #ping
01:07 <armabot> pong
01:07 <guru3> pong
01:14 <DrJoeTron> doink
01:14 <guru3> ploint
01:14 <guru3> k
01:14 <guru3> -t
01:15 <DrJoeTron> boink
01:15 <guru3> foink
01:15 <DrJoeTron> oink
01:15 <guru3> roink
01:15 <DrJoeTron> joink
01:15 <guru3> loink
01:15 <DrJoeTron> yoink
01:15 <guru3> qoink
01:15 <DrJoeTron> zoink
01:15 <guru3> woink
01:16 <DrJoeTron> goink
01:16 <guru3> soink
01:16 <DrJoeTron> xoink
01:16 <guru3> moink
01:17 <DrJoeTron> hoink
01:17 <guru3> noink
01:17 <DrJoeTron> 8oink
01:17 <guru3> voink
01:17 <DrJoeTron> 2oink
01:18 <guru3> koink
01:18 <DrJoeTron> foink
01:18 <guru3> HAHA YOU LOOSE
01:18 <DrJoeTron> liar
01:18 <guru3> i said foink at 01:13:52
01:19 <DrJoeTron> yeah?
01:19 <DrJoeTron> think you're a big shot now eh!?
01:19 <DrJoeTron> #roulette spin
01:19 <armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
01:19 <guru3> damn right i'm the big shot
01:19 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
01:19  * guru3 struts around
01:19 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
01:19 <armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
01:19  * DrJoeTron hands gun to guru3
01:20 <@guru3> #roulette
01:20 <armabot> guru3: *click*
01:20 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
01:20 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
01:20  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
01:20 <DrJoeTron> blast!
01:20 <@guru3> lol
01:20 <DrJoeTron> I'm just gonna beat you up and take your lunch money
01:20 <DrJoeTron> well i wont
01:20 <@guru3> lol
01:20 <DrJoeTron> but i'll get my big brother will
01:21 <DrJoeTron> he knows karate
01:21 <DrJoeTron> you're going down
01:21 <@guru3> i know /kick-ate
01:21 <DrJoeTron> dood dats cuz u hax
01:21 <@guru3> i know haxate then too
01:21 <DrJoeTron> oh god
01:21 <luke-jr_> op me!
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01:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_] by guru3
01:22 -!- spidey was kicked from #armagetron by luke-jr_ [luke-jr_]
01:22 <DrJoeTron> someone said they have a *hax* for arma called reflex
01:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_] by guru3
01:22 <luke-jr_> mwahaha
01:22 <@guru3> lol
01:22 <DrJoeTron> ha ha ha
01:22 <@guru3> i wonder what happened there
01:22  * guru3 whistles
01:23 <luke-jr_> he's gonna kill me =D
01:23 <@guru3> should be interesting :D
01:25 <luke-jr_> hm
01:25 <luke-jr_> shoulda kicked you instead
01:25 <luke-jr_> then I'd keep ops longer
01:25 <luke-jr_> lol
01:25 <@guru3> lol
01:25 <luke-jr_> but then again
01:25 <luke-jr_> you probably have autorejoin
01:25 <@guru3> that's the last time i give you ops ><
01:25 <luke-jr_> aww
01:25 <luke-jr_> you should make it permanent so it's not so tempting to abuse ;)
01:26 <@guru3> haha
01:26 <luke-jr_> op DrJoeTron , Lucifer_arma , me, mkzelda , Vanhayes , wrtlprnft , and godtodd maybe
01:26 <@guru3> :S
01:26 <luke-jr_> or maybe even just me so they can't beat up on me =p
01:27 <DrJoeTron> i'll only beat you up if you have money
01:27 <@guru3> or no one
01:27 <@guru3> and no one beats anyone up
01:27 <DrJoeTron> or if you have something good you're eating
01:27 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: I do
01:27 <DrJoeTron> what is it
01:27 <luke-jr_> guru3: they beat up on me all the time
01:27 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: sunflower kernels
01:27 <@guru3> ah well
01:27 <DrJoeTron> put up yur dukes.
01:27 <@guru3> ping me next time
01:28 <luke-jr_> lol
01:28 <DrJoeTron> dood cn i e admin?
01:28 <luke-jr_> guru3: we need to get you playing Freeciv btw
01:28 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: you're asking to eat guru3 ?
01:28 <@guru3> someone'd need to teach me to play
01:28 <luke-jr_> guru3: sure
01:29 <@guru3> sometime i'll think of asking
01:29 <luke-jr_> USE=-dedicated emerge freeciv
01:31 <@guru3> ive got it emerged
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01:39 <luke-jr_> guru3: so training tonite?
01:40 <luke-jr_> maybe for 10 min or so?
01:40 <@guru3> it's too late
01:40 <luke-jr_> nah
01:40 <@guru3> i'm about to go to  sleep
01:40 <luke-jr_> only 6:41 PM
01:40 <@guru3> almost 1 am ><
01:40 <luke-jr_> lies
01:40 <@guru3> Wed Nov  1 01:39:21 CET 2006
01:40 <luke-jr_> you're american
01:40 <DrJoeTron> ...
01:40 <luke-jr_> lol
01:41 <@guru3> lies
01:41 <luke-jr_> Wed Nov  1 00:42:05 UTC 2006
01:41 <DrJoeTron> yeah whats the story with that guru3 
01:41 <DrJoeTron> why did you go from north carolina to Yurp
01:42 <@guru3> my mom got a job in sweden
01:42 <DrJoeTron> ...assassin?
01:42 <@guru3> haha no
01:42 <@guru3> one more letter in the word than assassin
01:43 <DrJoeTron> good thing this isn't the IRC spelling B 
01:43 <@guru3> lol
01:43 <@guru3> true
01:45 <DrJoeTron> god
01:45 <DrJoeTron> i dont understand the SA boards
01:45 <@guru3> i'm glad you acknowledge me
01:58 <@guru3> nn all
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02:08 <spidey> wtf
02:08 <Vanhayes> ha
02:09 <Vanhayes> * guru3 gives channel operator status to luke-jr_
02:09 <Vanhayes>  luke-jr_ has kicked spidey from #armagetron (luke-jr_)
02:09 <Vanhayes> happened in less than a minute
02:10 <Vanhayes> gotta love that the first thing luke-jr_ does is kick spidey
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02:22 <DrJoeTron> haha
02:23 <DrJoeTron> less than a minute?
02:23 <DrJoeTron> more like 30 seconds
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=103701#103701
02:41 <Vanhayes> hmm, do the forums not have Day light savings?
02:42 <Vanhayes> #lastseen canada
02:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: ~{GP}~ Canada seems to be on ELOroks-Land right now.
02:42 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
02:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
02:45 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
02:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
02:49 <comsn> #armaservers
02:49 <armabot> comsn: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
02:54 <luke-jr_> spidey: :)
02:55 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
02:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: The Lobster Cage (5 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5 players) || Norm's Place (5 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (4 players) || Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (4 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (4 players) || ELOroks-Land (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (3 players) || MicroBusCity.com (1 players) || (1 more message)
02:57 <DrJoeTron> replied
02:58 <luke-jr_> What was it
02:58 <luke-jr_> that you
02:58 <luke-jr_> replied to?
03:01 <DrJoeTron> <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=103701#103701
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> scroll up, luke-jr_ :)
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03:02 <Fonkay> hi
03:04 <Lucifer_arma> hi Fonkay 
03:04 <Lucifer_arma> we're lod-hating right now, please join us :)
03:04 <Fonkay> what's happening?
03:04 <Fonkay> on arma?
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=103711#103711
03:08 <DrJoeTron> nothigns worse than those DWH guys
03:09 <Fonkay> nothing
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> did you see those asshats set up a server?
03:13 <Fonkay> done and done
03:18 <Vanhayes> im screwheh, im having fun in your server luke
03:18 <Vanhayes> er
03:20 <Fonkay> is the server any good? or is one of those high rubber crap things?
03:21 <Vanhayes> CTF
03:21 <Vanhayes> heh, with turbo
03:22 <Fonkay> oh
03:22 <Vanhayes> hope you dont mind luke-jr_, ive been screwing with the settings
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> man, I gotta say, I'm starting to think CT might be a revolutionary new clan around here
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, they treat people decently, play a good game, and have a good server
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> we've *never* had a clan like that before!
03:23 <Fonkay> was there an old revolution?
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> nah, the dwh server sucks.  It's like MBC but with fortresses
03:24 <Fonkay> ick
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> is that Antonio Banderas in Interview with a Vampire?
03:26 <Fonkay> yes he is
03:27 <Fonkay> and kirsten dunst and brad pitt and that other chick
03:29 <Vanhayes> tom cruise too
03:30 <Fonkay> oh yes
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I had avoided that movie for a long time because I only got through half of the book before putting it down, bored to tears, and because TOm Cruise was in it
03:30 <Fonkay> but tom cruise doesn't count as a person anymore
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> neither does Kirsten Dunst.  She needs to eat more.
03:30 <Fonkay> but she was young at the time
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> Johnny Depp, on the other hand, is the greatest actor of all time
03:31 <Fonkay> i do like me some johnny
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> he's like Val Kilmer, but he makes more movies
03:32 <Fonkay> val kilmer is old school
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> When they finally make a movie about me, I want to either be played by Val Kilmer or Johnny Depp :)
03:32 <Fonkay> he hasn't made a good movie in forever
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> apparently he's working more these days than he used to, there's tons of movies listed for him on imdb
03:34 <Vanhayes> favorite actor would have to be Al Pacino, he hasnt done much lately butwhat he has done are some of my favorites
03:34 <Fonkay> i have a soft spot for zach braff. but he's newish
03:35 <Vanhayes> he is good in scrubs, thats the only thing ive seen him in
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, Val Kilmer did the Island of Dr. Moreau?
03:35 <Fonkay> Zach Braff, Natalie Portman, Nathan Fillion, Jewel Staite, Scarlet Johannson
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna have to send my wife to the library for that one
03:35 <DrJoeTron> natalie portman cant fucking act
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> Natalie Portman has become one of my all-time least-favorite actresses
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> she at least outranks kirsten dunst
03:36 <Fonkay> aw
03:37 <Vanhayes> fan of firefly and serenity Fonkay ?
03:37 <Fonkay> hell yea
03:37 <Vanhayes> good shows
03:37 <Vanhayes> stupid FOX
03:37 <Fonkay> -s
03:37 <Vanhayes> er ya
03:37 <Fonkay> :)
03:38 <Fonkay> firefly was awesome
03:39 <Vanhayes> ya, fox cancels alot of good shows
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> Was at the time the youngest student ever accepted into Juilliard's Drama department. His record has been eclipsed by Juilliard student Seth Numrich who was admitted at 15 in 2002.  <--- irony?
03:40 <Vanhayes> family guy, futurama, firefly, dark angel just to name a few off the top of my head
03:40 <DrJoeTron> firefly and serenity were great
03:41 <Fonkay> futurama, really?
03:41 <Vanhayes> love that show
03:41 <Fonkay> dark angel?
03:41 <DrJoeTron> futurama was offed by fox
03:41 <DrJoeTron> i love futurama
03:41 <Fonkay> i hate dark angel
03:41 <DrJoeTron> the WB sucks too
03:41 <Vanhayes> well, thats mostly because of jessica alba
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> Did not want to appear in Top Gun (1986), but was forced to do so because of contractual obligations.
03:41 <DrJoeTron> I want mission hill  back
03:41 <Fonkay> worst show ever.. you need to add her to the list of girls who can't act
03:42  * Fonkay thinks luci has an abnormal obsession with val kilmer
03:42 <Vanhayes> ya, but if they hadnt canceled it she wouldnt have had to go into movies
03:42 <Fonkay> wb no longer exists
03:42  * Lucifer_arma notes that both Real Genius and Willow are movies from his childhood
03:42 <Vanhayes> anyways, I heard they were bringing futurama back
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> Top Gun, for that matter, and I was traumatized by that movie, it sucked so badly
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> it's the reason I've hated TOm Cruise all these years, in fact
03:43 <Fonkay> i loved willow when i was a kid
03:43 <Vanhayes> he has been in a few good movies
03:43 <DrJoeTron> willow died :/
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> I saw Willow in the theater, it was awesome.  :)  It still is an awesome movie
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> yes, he did.  :(
03:43 <DrJoeTron> yeah futurama is comming back
03:43 <DrJoeTron> 13 new episodes to comedy central
03:44 <Vanhayes> so I guess ill be seeing them in a year on The comedy Network
03:44 <Fonkay> or 2
03:44 <Vanhayes> ya, probly 2
03:47 <Vanhayes> hmm, Id say amgnollia would be my favorite movie with tom cruise in it
03:47 <Vanhayes> Magnolia*
03:48 <Fonkay> i don't have a favourite movie with tom cruise in it
03:49 <Vanhayes> well, Magnolia, collateral, and interview with a vampire are the only ones with him in it that I liked
03:49 <Fonkay> i was just gonna say
03:49 <Vanhayes> and thats mostly because he isnt the star in any of those
03:49 <Fonkay> collateral if i had to choose
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03:57 <Fonkay> ok, that's enough for me
03:57 <Fonkay> night
03:57 <DrJoeTron> get out of here
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04:03 <Vanhayes> hmm, has anyone seen The Departed?
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04:43 <Vanhayes> #night
04:43 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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05:17 <Legit> hey luke, u herE?
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05:52 <Lucifer_arma> no, but if you go to mexico you can see The Deported
05:55 <DrJoeTron> bah dup tss
05:55 <DrJoeTron> god
05:56 <DrJoeTron> its those damn dwh
05:56 <DrJoeTron> they were in the lobster cage
05:56 <DrJoeTron> i banned all of them
05:56 <DrJoeTron> they're just annoying
05:58 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd ping
05:59 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron: pong
05:59 <DrJoeTron> are you on windows?
05:59 <GodTodd> yeah
06:00 <DrJoeTron> you gotta try out this freeware shmups
06:00 <GodTodd> shmups?
06:00 <DrJoeTron> shootemup
06:00 <GodTodd> ahhh
06:00 <DrJoeTron> this game is like tempest
06:01 <DrJoeTron> only a thousand times faster
06:01 <DrJoeTron> ive got the zip here somewhere
06:01 <DrJoeTron> here we are
06:03 <GodTodd> dl'ing
06:04 <DrJoeTron> i can see :d
06:05 <DrJoeTron> doood its gotz sub7
06:13 <DrJoeTron> highest i got non-stop was 7
06:13 <DrJoeTron> level 7*
06:16 <GodTodd> i am so out of practice on tempest 
06:16 <GodTodd> heh
06:18 <GodTodd> only got to level 3 :/
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> why aren't there any good games anymore?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> did the smegheads finally win?  have they run off all the good players?
06:47 <DrJoeTron> its a tuesday
06:47 <DrJoeTron> its always barren
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08:37 <DrJoeTron> bah i think i got a cavity
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> "I believe love is bigger than government. And besides, they have a right to be as miserable as the rest of us."
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> Texas has the 8th largest economy in the world, but we're 1st in drop-out rates and 32nd in education spending in the country.
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> *phew*  Looks like we're first in something after all.
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09:08 <Lucifer_arma> Maybe we'd get less dropouts if we told them UT was ranked 1st as party school in the country
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13:17 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6105726.stm  <--- holy shit, bullets are dangerous!
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13:36 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 1/3600*1024*(8914-8844)/14.8924*1000
13:36 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: (((1 / 3,600) * 1,024 * (8,914 - 8,844)) / 14.8924) * 1,000 = 1,336.99814
13:36 <[Xpert]DarkStar> aww almost
13:36 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 1/3600*1024*(8914-8844)/14.8922*1000
13:36 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: (((1 / 3,600) * 1,024 * (8,914 - 8,844)) / 14.8922) * 1,000 = 1,337.0161
13:37 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 1/3600*1024*(8914-8844)/14.892205*1000
13:37 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: (((1 / 3,600) * 1,024 * (8,914 - 8,844)) / 14.892205) * 1,000 = 1,337.01565
13:37 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 1/3600*1024*(8914-8844)/14.89221*1000
13:37 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: (((1 / 3,600) * 1,024 * (8,914 - 8,844)) / 14.89221) * 1,000 = 1,337.0152
13:37 <[Xpert]DarkStar> whatever
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13:42 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
13:42 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 45.1°F (6:41 AM CST on November 01, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa. 
13:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #weather zürich
13:46 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "zürich".
13:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #weather zurich
13:46 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 1:20 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:46 ° F. / 8 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.; Overcast. High:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:26 ° F. / -3 ° C.;
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13:56 <madmax|pt> hello
13:58 <spidey> no
14:05 <[Xpert]DarkStar> http://bash.org/?700091 lmao
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15:20 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: you live in texas right?
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15:53 <wrtlprnft> he does, afaik
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16:51 <DrJoeTron> :/
16:59 <[dlh]> :\
17:00 <DrJoeTron> either i ripped a filling out
17:00 <DrJoeTron> or i have a cavity
17:00 <DrJoeTron> and its making me angry
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17:07 <spidey_> DrJoeTron, pwned
17:07 <DrJoeTron> hows the ged coming spidey
17:07 <spidey_> not getting it
17:08 <spidey_> graduating in may 2007
17:08 <spidey_> turns out since i failed, i shouldn't have had to do all those books i did last year
17:08 <spidey_> only 23 per grade
17:08 <spidey_> was doing 46 big ones
17:12 <DrJoeTron> so what exactly are you doing?
17:13 <DrJoeTron> yay for firefox 2
17:14 <spidey_> 23 books per grade
17:14 <DrJoeTron> 23 books?
17:14 <spidey_> i finish 23 books, i goto 10th grade
17:14 <DrJoeTron> i dont understand
17:14 <spidey_> finish 23 more goto 11th
17:14 <spidey_> well
17:14 <spidey_> they're like
17:14 <spidey_> 20 - 30 pages each
17:14 <spidey_> i read them
17:14 <spidey_> then answer the questions
17:14 <spidey_> then goto the gateway center
17:15 <spidey_> and take a test on the book
17:15 <spidey_> i pass it, i do more books
17:15 <spidey_> i fail it i redo the book
17:15 <spidey_> i've only failed 2 books in 2 years though
17:15 <spidey_> of course, they where both english haha xD
17:22 <[dlh]> I hope that mistake was intentional… :)
17:22 <spidey_> ??
17:22 <[dlh]> where → were
17:22 <spidey_> =/
17:39 <spidey_> DrJoeTron, get me 2 nics and a crossover =p
17:40 <DrJoeTron> i stole some eithernet cable from my college
17:40 <DrJoeTron> ether*
17:40 <spidey_> lol
17:40 <DrJoeTron> its pretty easy
17:40 <DrJoeTron> and this wouldnt be the first time
17:41 <spidey_> well
17:41 <spidey_> i'm almost ready to setup a cluster
17:41 <spidey_> i just need 3 things
17:41 <spidey_> well
17:42 <spidey_> more than that, but i can get that stuff easy xD
17:42 <DrJoeTron> i just need to go to school
17:42 <DrJoeTron> see ya
17:42 <spidey_> cya
20:30 <DrJoeTron> im starting to like this seperate server idea
20:38 <spidey_> ?
20:39 <spidey_> appearently, there's a exploit for ares
20:39 <spidey_> a something with .AVI's
20:39 <spidey_> it crashes ares and makes cmp skip
20:40 <Commn> spidey makes me feel old graduating in 2002 :(
20:40 <Commn> er graduated
20:40  * Commn needs to stop getting dumber
20:44 <DrJoeTron> i graduated in 05
20:45 <spidey_> lol
20:58 <madmax|pt> omg
20:58 <madmax|pt> "If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips."
20:58 <madmax|pt> @ http://www.adequacy.org/public/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
21:00 <madmax|pt> ahah
21:00 <DrJoeTron> ahahaha
21:00 <madmax|pt> this is nice
21:00 <DrJoeTron> toobad amd was founded in illinois
21:19 <spidey_> madmax|pt, that's years and years old =p
21:20 <madmax|pt> well, i'm a noob
21:22 <wrtlprnft> wow, setting MAX_VOTES to 0 on CTWF for a while does wonders
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22:11 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
22:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || -=|LoD|=- Fight Or Die Server (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (5 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || Six Eternal (1 more message)
22:13 <Commn> fight or die?
22:13 <Commn> OH DAMN
22:13 <Commn> idea time
22:13 <Commn> where is groundpig?
22:13 <Commn> what about a server where each player has a killzone following them at spawn
22:13 <Commn> they have to kill others while avoiding zombie at all times!
22:15 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
22:15 <armabot> madmax|pt: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || -=|LoD|=- Fight Or Die Server (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (5 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || Six Eternal (1 more message)
22:15 <madmax|pt> #more
22:15 <armabot> madmax|pt: Dynastys Server (3 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Server (3 players) || Dubki.Ru Fortress Server (2 players) || Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (2 players) || Strawberry Fields - BACKUP-SERVER (2 players) || Arena 51 Fight Club. No zones. No campers. (1 players)
22:16 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails sty
22:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server: Players (6/12): Fit-ti, HC ARBOL ITO, NeatEye~@, Onahan, Playerr 111, ¬µ@¥Þµ,General
22:16 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails flag
22:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Capture the Flag (This could be your server!): Players (3/16): #1 Ukrainian, jfacas_Portugal, Telmo
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22:50 <ghableska> hello
22:55 <madmax|pt> hi
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: yes, I live in texas, whats up?
23:06 <guru3> my mom's in texas now ><
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23:42 <Lucifer_arma> what part?  hoep she's enjoying the cold weather, heh :)
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
23:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 61.0°F (4:40 PM CST on November 01, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa. 
23:42 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:42 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (3:54 PM CST on November 01, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa. 
23:43 <ghableska> cold, you say?
23:43 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:43 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 59.5°F (4:44 PM CST on November 01, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa. 
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I ddin't say "Arctic"
23:43 <ghableska> ah ;)
23:43 <guru3> austin i think
23:46 <spidey_> #cnn 38256
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> wow, someone at least distantly related actually in austin?  ;)
23:46 <armabot> spidey_: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 45.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Wind: N at 10 mph (16 km/h).
23:46  * Lucifer_arma lives in the austin metro area
23:46 <guru3> thought so...
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> I also have a nasty calculus test tomorrow, so if your mom wants to hook up, it'll have to be after that sometime.  However, I've just decided to blow off all visits for the rest of this semester,
23:49 <guru3> lol
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> on account of having two sets of grandparents each visit on different weekends, during a calculus test
23:49 <guru3> ><
23:50 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
23:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Clear. Low plus 1.; Thursday - Increasing cloudiness. Periods of rain beginning late in the morning. Amount 5 mm. Wind becoming north 20 km/h in the afternoon. High 8. Thursday night..periods of rain ending in the evening then (1 more message)
23:51 <Vanhayes> bah, always rain
23:51 <guru3> #weather sheffield
23:51 <armabot> guru3: The current temperature in Sheffield, AL is 62.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Wind: NW at 13 mph (21 km/h).
23:51 <guru3> AL lol

Log from 2006-11-02:
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00:10 <Fonkay> hi
00:11 <DrJoeTron>  word
00:11 <GodTodd> sentence
00:11 <DrJoeTron> phrase
00:11 <Fonkay> paraphrase
00:11 <GodTodd> interrogatory
00:12 <Fonkay> speak
00:12 <guru3> reply
00:12 <DrJoeTron> troll
00:12 <Fonkay> you are
00:12 <guru3> flame
00:12 <DrJoeTron> rant
00:12 <Your_mom_arma> what did i miss?
00:13 <guru3> explitive
00:13 <Fonkay> hi, word, sentence, phrase,, etc
00:13 <Fonkay> narative
00:13 <guru3> soliloquy
00:14 <Fonkay> articulate
00:16 <GodTodd> monologue
00:16 <guru3> can't think of any more ><
00:16 <GodTodd> diatribe
00:18 <Fonkay> chat
00:18 <Fonkay> tell
00:18 <Fonkay> telk
00:18 <Fonkay> talk*
00:18 <Fonkay> verbalize
00:18 <Fonkay> converse
00:18 <Fonkay> utter
00:18 <DrJoeTron> ah yes
00:18 <DrJoeTron> the majetic telk
00:18 <DrJoeTron> majestic*
00:19 <Fonkay> haha
00:19 <Fonkay> loser
00:19 <ghableska> :P
00:19 <Fonkay> express
00:19 <Fonkay> idiom 
00:19 <Fonkay> ok, enough of that
00:24 <Fonkay> so what's going down?
00:25 <guru3> lines of text
00:25 <guru3> as people say silly things :>
00:25 <Fonkay> what other kinds of text are there, only silly ones
00:26 <guru3> 2020 would argue against that ;)
00:26 <GodTodd> pixelated representations of spoken language
00:26 <Fonkay> 2020 doesn't own me
00:27 <Fonkay> :P
00:27 <Fonkay> All who know me would say that i have nothing of interest to say. just silly things.
00:28 <DrJoeTron> Fonkay likes to discuss deep meaningful topics
00:28 <DrJoeTron> like Current nation affairs
00:28 <DrJoeTron> and blackjack
00:29 <Fonkay> and how joe is my pimp
00:29 <guru3> CHEESE :D
00:30 <Fonkay> lookin' for some whine with that cheese?
00:30 <guru3> just cheese is nice
00:30 <guru3> i should get like a block of paramsean
00:31 <Fonkay> yea, i kinda wish i had some
00:31 <Your_mom_arma> football games arn't video games http://fanboys-online.com//comics/20061032.jpg
00:31 <Fonkay> i get all snacking when I'm drinking.. but there's nothing to snakc on
00:31 <Fonkay> snakc*
00:31 <Fonkay> snack******
00:31 <guru3> i have no snacks atm
00:32 <Fonkay> me either
00:32 <Fonkay> actually.
00:32 <Fonkay> popcorn! i have popcorn, yay
00:33 <guru3> no microwave here
00:34 <spidey_> i have
00:34 <spidey_> chilie
00:34 <spidey_> and crackers
00:35 <spidey_> chacolate milk to xD
00:35 <ghableska> all mixed together?
00:35 <spidey_> no...
00:36 <Fonkay> I got me some popcorn, and some leftover halloween choclates
00:36 <guru3> halloween candy :D
00:36 <Fonkay> oh henry bars to be exact
00:37 <guru3> candy is the best bit of halloween
00:37 <Fonkay> was
00:37 <spidey_> is
00:37 <spidey_> there'll be another next year
00:37 <spidey_> =p
00:37 <Fonkay> once upon a time when i was young enough to go door to door
00:38 <spidey_> just because you're old doesn't mean nothin
00:38 <Fonkay> now it's the parties i look forward to most
00:38 <spidey_> xD
00:38 <Fonkay> sure it does
00:38 <spidey_> you're that closer to dying?
00:39 <Fonkay> No, but i had enough trouble trying to convince people to give me candy when i was 15.. bit harder now. 
00:39 <Fonkay> I'm a little tall for a kid
00:39 <spidey_> haha!
00:39 <guru3> one year i was a cardboard box for halloween
00:39 <spidey_> o.O
00:39 <guru3> that was pretty amusing
00:39 <Fonkay> i went as halloween once
00:39 <spidey_> as what?
00:40 <Fonkay> halloween
00:40 <spidey_> a pumpkin?
00:40 <guru3> it's like going as father crhistmas
00:40 <guru3> father pumpkin...
00:40 <spidey_> lol
00:40 <spidey_> micheal myers?
00:40 <Fonkay> I didn't have time/energy to put together a costume.. so i stuck a bunch of happy halloween signs and random costumes from other years on and went as halloween
00:40 <Fonkay> looked pretty silly
00:41 <spidey_> rofl
00:41 <spidey_> i think after i turned 10 i stopped wearing costumes
00:41 <spidey_> i still got candy though :D
00:41 <Fonkay> good luck around here
00:41 <Fonkay> i buy candy every year on nov 1st
00:41 <spidey_> hey
00:41 <spidey_> if there was houses around here
00:42 <spidey_> hell yea i'd go get some candy =D
00:42 <Fonkay> like i said.. I'm 5'9 so a bit tall for a girl
00:42 <spidey_> so
00:42 <spidey_> i'm taller =p
00:42 <Fonkay> youre a guy
00:43 <spidey_> what's that got to do with getting candy?
00:43 <spidey_> =p
00:43 <Fonkay> if a twenty something came to my door with no costume I'd tell him to go f*ck himself
00:43 <GodTodd> and if it was spidey, he would :D
00:43 <spidey_> what if it was a her?
00:43 <Fonkay> him/her
00:43 <Fonkay> if it was spidey at my door, i'd think he was already in costume i suppose
00:44 <spidey_> GodTodd, go annoy luke-jr_ some more plzkthnx
00:44 <spidey_> :|
00:44 <spidey_> that's not cool =)
00:44 <spidey_> =(*
00:44 <Fonkay> pft
00:45 <Fonkay> I'd be all "ewww it's that thing again"
00:45 <Fonkay> joe
00:45 <spidey_> atleast i'm not a giant girl >:p
00:45 <Fonkay> I'm not giant, I'm tall
00:45 <spidey_> actually 5'9 isn't that tall here
00:45 <spidey_> it's about average
00:46 <spidey_> canada must be full of short people
00:46 <Fonkay> most people i know are about 5'4
00:46 <Fonkay> girls*
00:46 <spidey_> rofl
00:46 <Fonkay> my mom's 5'1 and my sis is 5'3
00:46 <spidey_> shesh
00:47 <spidey_> i remember my ex-stepdads parents where real short
00:47 <Fonkay> it's not bad now.. but when i was a kid i was like a foot over all the boys and i hated being tall
00:47 <guru3> off to bed
00:47 <guru3> good night
00:47 <spidey_> they had this house, the ceiling was about 6ft off the group
00:47 <Fonkay> night
00:47 <spidey_> you tippy toed you hit your head xD
00:47  * spidey_ pokes guru3 :D
00:48 <Fonkay> JOE
00:48 <DrJoeTron> WHAT
00:48 <spidey_> he heard you calling him
00:48 <spidey_> and ran
00:48 <spidey_> damn...
00:48 <Fonkay> har
00:48 <DrJoeTron> whats up
00:48 <Fonkay> you finish that other av yet?
00:48 <DrJoeTron> ive almost started
00:48 <Fonkay> almost started?
00:48 <spidey_> rofl
00:49 <Fonkay> I thought you started it awhile ago
00:49 <spidey_> he can't finish
00:49 <DrJoeTron> scrapped it
00:49 <Fonkay> oh
00:49 <spidey_> he has to play defcon with me =p
00:49 <Fonkay> screw defcon
00:49 <spidey_> you'd like that
00:49 <DrJoeTron> more like go hit on this girel in class
00:50 <DrJoeTron> girl*
00:50 <spidey_> lol
00:50 <Fonkay> if joe has to pick between pimpin' me and defcon, bet he picks me
00:50 <spidey_> nope
00:50 <DrJoeTron> its true
00:50 <spidey_> i'll bribe him
00:50 <DrJoeTron> cept i dont love dem hos
00:50 <DrJoeTron> sorry baby
00:50 <spidey_> haha
00:50 <Fonkay> liar
00:50 <Fonkay> dat's not what you said lastnight
00:50 <DrJoeTron> bish yousa hoe
00:50 <Fonkay> hehe
00:51 <Fonkay> yous bess step off
00:51 <spidey_> ok childern
00:51 <spidey_> back in the corner!
00:51 <DrJoeTron> damn
00:51 <Fonkay> damn lack of psd
00:52 <GodTodd> what's childern?
00:52 <DrJoeTron> you're the youngest here
00:52 <GodTodd> :P
00:52 <spidey_> am not!!
00:52 <spidey_> ;s
00:52 <spidey_> todd's younger!
00:52 <GodTodd> bahahah
00:52 <GodTodd> mentally maybe ;)
00:52 <DrJoeTron> alright
00:52 <spidey_> lol
00:52 <Fonkay> it's pronounced chillins
00:52 <DrJoeTron> il be back in a few hours
00:52 <spidey_> chitlens?
00:52 <DrJoeTron> i prefer kinder
00:53 <spidey_> kinder?
00:53 <Fonkay> ok, see you lata loosa
00:54 <GodTodd> spidey's goona gradiate inn mae off 2007 beecaus dey wontt teesst himm oon speeling
00:54 <spidey_> good thing to
00:54 <Fonkay> #q
00:54 <armabot> Fonkay: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
00:54 <spidey_> #help quote
00:54 <armabot> spidey_: Error: There is no command "quote".
00:54 <spidey_> liar
00:55 <spidey_> #quote
00:55 <Fonkay> #quote list
00:55 <spidey_> hm
00:55 <spidey_> you broke it
00:55 <spidey_> #help q
00:55 <armabot> spidey_: (q <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "quote random".
00:55 <Fonkay> #quote all
00:55 <spidey_> #quote
00:55 <spidey_> ...
00:55 <Fonkay> #q
00:55 <spidey_> #list quote
00:55 <armabot> Fonkay: Quote #9: "he eats a bowl of wheat stocks and small pebbles -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:28 PM, March 29, 2006)
00:55 <armabot> spidey_: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
00:55 <spidey_> #quote search
00:55 <Fonkay> stats
00:55 <armabot> spidey_: 25 found: #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug...", #13: "<hang3r> How many microbuscity's does it take...", #14: "On a full moon, Christopher Walken transform in...", #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on...", #16: "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code...", #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate...", #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other...", #19: "If (3 more messages)
00:56 <spidey_> #more
00:56 <armabot> spidey_: we were wolves and we snuck into China,...", #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong?...", #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr", #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good", #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months...", #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?", #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey", #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so (2 more messages)
00:56 <spidey_> #more
00:56 <spidey_> #more
00:56 <armabot> spidey_: I...", #27: "thats like asking if vegetarians can eat animal...", #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay", #29: "It was like playing a game with a ping of 3000....", #2: "God gave me fingers and a clitoris, I mean,...", #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer", #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an...", #5: "first the spoon, then the ladle, then the bowl,...", #6: "luci what exactly did you use (1 more message)
00:56 <armabot> spidey_: robots for...", #8: "master your own mind, otherwise the game will...", and #9: "he eats a bowl of wheat stocks and small..."
00:56 <Fonkay> #quote get 24
00:56 <armabot> Fonkay: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
00:56 <Vanhayes> #quote get 26
00:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I can wipe my ass with luke-jr_'s face" (added by spidey at 05:44 AM, October 25, 2006)
00:57 <Fonkay> #quote get 6
00:57 <armabot> Fonkay: Quote #6: "luci what exactly did you use robots for pleasure -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:52 AM, March 27, 2006)
00:57 <Vanhayes> #quote get 1
00:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
00:57 <Vanhayes> #f
00:57 <armabot> Random Fortune: /* dbmrefcnt--; */ /* doesn't work, rats */ || -- Larry Wall in hash.c from the perl source code
00:57 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:57 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:58 <spidey_> #roulette
00:58 <Fonkay> stupid popcorn
00:58 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:58  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:58 <spidey_> o.O
00:58 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:58 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:58 <spidey_> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> spidey_: *click*
00:58 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:58 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:58 <spidey_> #roulette
00:58  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:58 <armabot> spidey_: *click*
00:58 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:58 <Fonkay> i always lose
00:58 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:58 <Vanhayes> lol
00:58 <spidey_> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> spidey_: *click*
00:58 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:58 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:58 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:58  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:58 <spidey_> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> spidey_: *click*
00:58 <Vanhayes> aw you theived it
00:58 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:58  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:58 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:58 <spidey_> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:58  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:58 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:58 <spidey_> =(
00:58 <spidey_> =(
00:58 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:58 <spidey_> =(
00:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:58 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:58 <spidey_> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> spidey_: *click*
00:58 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:58 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:58 <spidey_> #roulette
00:58 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:58  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:58 <armabot> spidey_: *click*
00:59 <Fonkay> haha
00:59 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:59 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:59 <spidey_> van died!
00:59 <spidey_> #roulette
00:59 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:59  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:59 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:59 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:59 <spidey_> #roulette
00:59 <armabot> spidey_: *click*
00:59 <Vanhayes> ok, this has to be the most pointless thing armabot can do
00:59 <Fonkay> #roulette
00:59 <armabot> Fonkay: *click*
00:59 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:59 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:59 <spidey_> #roulette
00:59 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:59  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:59 <Fonkay> nu uh
00:59 <Fonkay> #ping
00:59 <armabot> pong
00:59 <spidey_> i call heads!
00:59 <spidey_> #coin
00:59 <armabot> spidey_: tails
00:59 <spidey_> =/
00:59 <Fonkay> doh
00:59 <Vanhayes> hey, that has its uses
00:59 <spidey_> how so?
00:59 <Vanhayes> #ping
00:59 <armabot> pong
00:59 <spidey_> that's not #coin
00:59 <Fonkay> #pong
00:59 <Vanhayes> well Im not disconnected
00:59 <armabot> ping
01:00 <Fonkay> #eliza is stupid
01:00 <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say is stupid?
01:00 <Vanhayes> heads I quit tron tails I dont 
01:00 <Vanhayes> #coin
01:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
01:00 <Vanhayes> #help coin
01:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: (coin takes no arguments) -- Flips a coin and returns the result.
01:00 <Vanhayes> hmm
01:00 <Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid
01:00 <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?
01:00 <Vanhayes> ahahaa
01:00 <Vanhayes> oh, thats awesome
01:00 <spidey_> #eliza hi
01:01 <Fonkay> #eliza because you are
01:01 <armabot> spidey_: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> nice
01:01 <armabot> Fonkay: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
01:01 <Fonkay> #eliza no
01:01 <armabot> Fonkay: Why not?
01:01 <Vanhayes> that might deserve a quote
01:01 <spidey_> atleast it didn't say i r stupid
01:01 <spidey_> =p
01:01 <Fonkay> #eliza fuck you
01:01 <armabot> Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex?
01:01 <Vanhayes> it did...
01:01 <spidey_> haha
01:01 <Vanhayes> ahahaa
01:01 <Fonkay> #eliza no
01:01 <armabot> Fonkay: Why not?
01:01 <Fonkay> #eliza fuck me
01:01 <armabot> Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex?
01:01 <Vanhayes> heh
01:01 <Fonkay> #eliza yes
01:01 <armabot> Fonkay: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
01:02 <Fonkay> #eliza cause you're a bitch
01:02 <armabot> Fonkay: Please, watch your tongue!
01:02 <spidey_> #quote add Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot
01:02 <armabot> spidey_: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:02 <spidey_> :|
01:02 <Your_mom_arma> heads we'll eventually finish the japan game, tails we probobly won't
01:02 <Your_mom_arma> #coin
01:02 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: heads
01:02 -!- spidey_ is now known as spidey
01:02 <spidey> #quote add Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot
01:02 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.  Quote #30 added.
01:03 <Vanhayes> should have added it all
01:03 <spidey> ?
01:03 <Fonkay> we had a good conversation with her the other day
01:03 <Fonkay> it was great
01:03 <Fonkay> #eliza are you afraid of sex?
01:03 <armabot> Fonkay: What do you think?
01:03 <ghableska> heh
01:04 <Fonkay> #eliza i think you are?
01:04 <armabot> Fonkay: What do you think?
01:04 <Fonkay> #eliza i think you are
01:04 <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say you think i are?
01:04 <Fonkay> #eliza stupid
01:04 <armabot> Fonkay: Can you elaborate on that?
01:04 <spidey> lol
01:04 <Fonkay> #eliza no
01:04 <armabot> Fonkay: Why not?
01:04 <Fonkay> #eliza cause you suck
01:04 <armabot> Fonkay: Please, watch your tongue!
01:05 <Fonkay> she says something else, but i don't remember what i have to say
01:05 <ghableska> Fonkay:     #eliza fuck me
01:05 <ghableska> :P
01:05 <Vanhayes> #quote add <Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?
01:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.  Quote #31 added.
01:05 <spidey> #eliza i think Fonkay likes you!
01:05 <armabot> spidey: Why do you say you think fonkay likes me?
01:05 <Vanhayes> heh had to have that one
01:06 <Fonkay> #eliza I like you
01:06 <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say you like me?
01:06 <Fonkay> #eliza cause you're awesome
01:06 <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say cause me 're awesome?
01:06 <Fonkay> haha
01:06 <spidey> lol
01:06 <ghableska> haha
01:07 <Fonkay> ok, enough for me for now
01:07 <spidey> atleast i don't say me're
01:07 <spidey> xD
01:07 <Fonkay> bbl
01:07 <Fonkay> not here at least
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01:08 <Vanhayes> #eliza I was walking down the street a couple weeks ago, and I saw a lamp post, I always wondered about them, always so big and lighted, anyways I just thought you should know that, seeing as you are a program for a bot in an IRC room
01:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say that?
01:08 <Vanhayes> meh
01:08 <Vanhayes> lazy bot wont say what i said
01:09 <ghableska> #eliza I was walking down the street
01:09 <armabot> ghableska: Why do you say you were walking down the street?
01:11 <Vanhayes> #eliza lazy
01:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Can you elaborate on that?
01:11 <Vanhayes> #eliza You are a lazy slacker!
01:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i are a lazy slacker?
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #eliza you are a whore
01:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Please, watch your tongue!
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> #eliza you are a hooker
01:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Why do you say i are a hooker?
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> #eliza because you took $20 from me and gave me a blowjob.
01:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Is it because i took 20 from you and gave you that you came to me?
01:13 <ghableska> haha
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> #eliza yes :)
01:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
01:17 <Your_mom_arma> we need to make a program to make 6 sided coins... we can call them dice
01:19 <Your_mom_arma> if i typed "sudo passwd dsl" into a linux shell what would it do?
01:20 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
01:20 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 42.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 29%. Wind: WNW at 20 mph (32 km/h).
01:20 <MaZuffeR> #weather turku
01:20 <armabot> MaZuffeR: The current temperature in Turku, Finland is 23.0°F (1:50 AM EET on November 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 12.2°F. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa. 
01:21 <ghableska> :P
01:21 <MaZuffeR> #g 12.2f in c
01:21 <armabot> MaZuffeR: 12.2 degrees Fahrenheit = -11 degrees Celsius
01:22 <ghableska> brr
01:22 <MaZuffeR> -11 isn't that cold
01:22 <ghableska> tell that to Lucifer_arma
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> the mormon missionaries came up to me outside just now wearing suit jackets, and me just wearing a long sleeved shirt
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> "It's cold, isn't it?"
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> "Not really, I haven't wussed out yet"
01:25 <ghableska> hey, those guys were here a few weeks ago
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'm proud of myself over this, I was very polite to them.  That was quite a large step for me.
01:25 <ghableska> hehe
01:25 <ghableska> I just ignore them
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> I wanted to finish my cigarette
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> I've been seeing them hitting up the houses farther down the street the last few nights, so I knew there were going to be here sooner or later
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> better when my wife's at school, she invites them in and kisses ass
01:27 <ghableska> heh
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> I told them praying and hearing god was symptomatic of schizophrenia, and they were incredulous.  So I said
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> "If I hear voices telling me to kiill someone, I'm schizophrenic.  If I hear voices telling me I'm going to heaven, I'm a Christian."
01:28 <ghableska> haha
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> they tried, but at least they were smart enough to know there was no hope for me.  Gotta give them credit for at least that much.
01:28 <ghableska> even if god tells you to kill someone? :P
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> that would make me a Moslem, wouldn't it?
01:29 <ghableska> true
01:29 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> of course they started by telling me they were LDS, and I said "You're not Fundamentalist LDS, are you?"
01:30  * Lucifer_arma notes that the Fundamentalist LDS are the nasty polygamists, child rapists and so forth.
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> at least this was a random call.  Occasionally my mother-in-law or sister-in-law sics the missionaries on us (those two are mormon)
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> so when they come asking for my wife, I think to myself "I really need to learn how to shoot"
01:33 <ghableska> what are the gun laws in Texas?
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01:33 <Vanhayes> man, my sister let them in one day and talked to them and they hounded her for the next 6 months
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> very liberal :)
01:33 <ghableska> ;)
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> it's probably legal to kill an LDS missionary.  Wouldn't surprise me, anyway.
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> hell, it's probably a valid defense to say that God didn't save them, clearly he wanted them to die.  (Texas is pretty calvinist)
01:34 <ghableska> haha
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I told my wife "talk to them if you want, but don't feed them"
01:35  * luke-jr_ annoyed a Conciliarist today by calling their service's wafer a "Novus Ordo cookie" :p
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> and when they ask for her by name, she gets pretty bitchy with them.  Problem is, having grown up in a mormon household, she doesn't feel the same kind of anger some of us feel when LDS comes a'knockin'
01:36  * Lucifer_arma thinks luke-jr_ belongs right in the middle of this conversation, for real.
01:37 <ghableska> :)
01:37 <luke-jr_> I'd say someone hearing voices telling them they're going to heaven is schizophrenic or such
01:37 <luke-jr_> since you can never know for sure till you die ;p
01:38 <Vanhayes> is gambling a sin then?
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> the voices in my head tell me "no"
01:40 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: depends on the reason you do it
01:40 <luke-jr_> well, depends on what you mean by gambling-- some people mean the reason
01:41 <Vanhayes> well that doesnt sound like you, usually its either yes or no, no middle ground
01:41 <Your_mom_arma> #dict faith
01:41 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: devils, gazetteer, gcide, easton, wn, bouvier, moby-thes, and gaz-place responded: gcide: Faith \Faith\, interj. By my faith; in truth; verily. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Fecks \Fecks\, n. A corruption of the word {faith}. --Shak. [1913 Webster] feculae; devils: FAITH, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel; bouvier: (32 more messages)
01:43 <Your_mom_arma> there has to be a better was to save all these files...
01:43 <Your_mom_arma> way*
01:43 <spidey> ?
01:44 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: install Jesus? =p
01:44 <Your_mom_arma> anyone recoomend nice drag and drop ftp client for windows?
01:44 <Your_mom_arma> a
01:44 <spidey> smartftp
01:45 <luke-jr_> Drag N' Zip
01:45 <luke-jr_> =p
01:46 <spidey> luke-jr_, die
01:46 <luke-jr_> spidey: die
01:47 <spidey> if jesus does love us, he'll do me a favor and smiten you =p
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> filezilla
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> if jesus loves me, I hope he'll be my bitch
01:48 <spidey> lol
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> if he really loves me, he'll swallow
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> or he'll let me use him as a bukakke model
01:48 <luke-jr_> http://www.liv.ac.uk/~petesmif/help/zip.html
01:48 <luke-jr_> rofl
01:48 <luke-jr_> pathetic
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> I gotta admit, religion got a lot more fun when I realized blasphemy was fun
01:50 <spidey> religion got a lot more fun when i realized i could pick on luke-jr_
01:51 <luke-jr_> and get /kicked
01:51 <Vanhayes> religon has never been fun for me
01:51 <Vanhayes> just very annoying
01:52 <ghableska> heh
01:56 <Your_mom_arma> thanks spidey
02:05 <Your_mom_arma> 1.7 gb of ram used out of 1.3 available... i dont like where this is going
02:05 <luke-jr_> OS: GNU/Linux 2.6.17-gentoo/x86_64 - CPU: 1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (2202.891 MHz) - Processes: 276 - Uptime: 5d 23h 34m - Users: 5 - Load Average: 0.23 - Memory Usage: 2254MB/1002MB (224%)
02:07 <Lucifer_arma> Jesus' only redeeming quality is that he has a tight ass
02:21 <Your_mom_arma> luci when can we finish up that game of civ?
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> probbly starting tomorrow night
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> my calc teacher sprang 2 tests on us in 1 week :(
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's more like 1.5 tests, since what I'm taking tomorrow is a half test
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02:26 <Your_mom_arma> alright, i knew you where busy so i figured i'ld ask
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> I hate it when I accidentally touch a pan with my skin and hear a sizzling noise
02:30 <spidey> haha
02:30 <spidey> in halloween 7 micheal myers gets his head chopped off
02:30 <spidey> so how is there a 8?
02:32 <spidey> np @ mom
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> which halloween movie was the one with all the backstory filler garbage ... thats the only one i havn't seen
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6108516.stm  <--- now can we get people thrown in jail for circumcising boys?
02:44 <ghableska> O_O
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you figure out who you're for yet?
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> it really sucks that they're expecting Perry to win the governor again
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> he's just like bush.  He's the worst there ever was, in any history.
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> you watch.  Add Friedman's votes to Bell's and you'll get a majority, but Perry will win with a plurality
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03:14 <Fonkay> hi
03:17 <ghableska> hey
03:24 <spidey> what
03:24 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, eh?
03:25 <spidey> i've got them all except 2, 3 , and 6
03:26 <Your_mom_arma> ?
03:27 <spidey> the halloween movies
03:27 <spidey> there's 8 i think
03:27 <spidey> i've got all but 2, 3 , and 6
03:31 <Fonkay> i had them all on tape until last month
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03:47 <Your_mom_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_III:_Season_of_the_Witch
03:48 <Your_mom_arma> nothing to do with mike myers
03:48 <Your_mom_arma> i take that back i think i might have seen it
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03:53 <Your_mom_arma> wb
03:54 <Fonkay> ty
03:54 <Fonkay> webcams are evil and all always freezing everything
03:54 <Fonkay> are*
03:55 <spidey> ...
03:55 <ghableska> #eliza webcams are evil
03:55 <armabot> ghableska: Why do you say webcams are evil?
03:55 <Your_mom_arma> #eliza get in the car we're going
03:55 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Why do you say get in the car you 're going?
03:56 <Fonkay> haha
03:56 <ghableska> #eliza get in the car me're going
03:56 <armabot> ghableska: Why do you say get in the car you 're going?
03:58 <spidey> well that's gay
03:58  * spidey isn't downloading h3 =p
03:58 <Fonkay> bah i should go to bed
03:59 <Fonkay> i think i will
03:59 <spidey> get ta movin'
03:59 <spidey> =p
03:59 <Fonkay> #night
03:59 <armabot> Good night Fonkay!
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04:07 <DrJoeTron> #eliza now when i come home, i expect dinner on the table. Now, isn't there any god damn dinner on the god damn table?
04:07 <armabot> DrJoeTron: What happened when you come home you expect dinner on?
04:07 <ghableska> O_o
04:07 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:10 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTron: legit has a team sumo server bwahaha
04:10 <DrJoeTron> sounds like an invitation
04:10 <DrJoeTron> let me eat my dinner
04:10 <DrJoeTron> #eliza this tastes like crap
04:10 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Why do you say this tastes like crap?
04:11 <DrJoeTron> #eliza its not your fault, i was epecting you to use actual ingredients, not crap
04:11 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Why do you say that?
04:13 <ghableska> #eliza What did you put in the food?
04:13 <armabot> ghableska: What do you think?
04:14 <ghableska> #eliza I think you put crap in the food, did you?
04:14 <armabot> ghableska: Why do you say that?
04:16 <DrJoeTron> ok
04:16 <DrJoeTron> wanna boogy?
04:17 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma I'll be in the cage
04:18 <DrJoeTron> woah
04:18 <DrJoeTron> cage is filled
04:18 <DrJoeTron> thats new
04:24 <ghableska> #night
04:24 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
04:24 <DrJoeTron> alright i made more room
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04:25 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma meet me in cage if you want to fight those no good dwh
04:25 <Your_mom_arma> well one of them was in there server, but i left
04:27 <DrJoeTron> mike kicked it
04:28 <Your_mom_arma> go to their server?
04:29 <DrJoeTron> nah head to lobster
04:29 <DrJoeTron> i cleared it up
05:15 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: not really sure...might throw my vote away on bell or friedman but i think it'll be between Strayhorn and Perry with Perry winning
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> last opinion poll I saw showed strayhorn waaaay down at the bottom, and it was bell vs perry
05:15 <GodTodd> really?
05:15 <GodTodd> hrmm
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm probbly voting for bell
05:15 <GodTodd> i might have to look into bell then
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  :)  Bell had 22% and Perry had 32% and strayhorn was in the single digits
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> Friedman had 10%, and if you add Friedman and Bell you beat Perry :/
05:16 <GodTodd> probably because of the party jumping, i'd imagine
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, she's also a crazy old woman, and people don't like that
05:16 <GodTodd> yeah...and friedman....dunno if i'd vote that weird ;)
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> I went into the candidates last night and couldn't get anything on strayhorn besides her 4 kids being her greatest accomplishments and some other crap
05:17 <GodTodd> yeah...and she was a teacher 
05:17 <GodTodd> and just got married to some old guy
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> Friedman and Bell have nearly identical platforms, except bell's is better researched and his solutions actually look reasonable
05:17 <GodTodd> heh...friedman? research?
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> I really want Friedman to win, and I really want him to be governor, but I hae to say Bell has the better credentials
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> since all other things *are* in fact equal, that makes Bell the better candidate
05:18 <GodTodd> that must be why bell is spending all his time putting kinky down
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> yep.  :)
05:18 <GodTodd> i have to admit...i'm not really schooled on bell....i'll have to rectify that
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> they both want to get rid of the toll roads, increase education spending, deploy the national guard to the border, etc.
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> Chris bell, google it.  :)
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> #google Chris Bell
05:18 <GodTodd> yeah
05:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.13 seconds: Chris Bell for Texas Governor: <http://www.chrisbell.com/>; Chris Bell for Texas Governor: <http://www.chrisbell.com/blog>; Chris Bell - Blues Guitar: <http://www.chrisbellblues.com/>; Chris Bell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Bell>; Chris Bell (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
05:19 <GodTodd> strayhorn just gets on my nerves
05:19 <GodTodd> so she doesn't get my vote
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> she's starting to annoy me, too
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> I liked her when she was Perry's mortal enemy, but she's turning out to be just like Kerry.  Her whole platform is "not that idiot Republican"
05:19 <GodTodd> she seems to me to want to campaign the same way richards did
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> only she's an idiot republican herself
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> only she can't pull it off.  Richards was a good governor, smart woman, and not unreasonably crazy.  :)
05:20 <GodTodd> old grandma type who wants to give those damn politicians in austin the whatfor
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> Richards also had a worthless opponent, Strayhorn has real opponents.
05:20 <GodTodd> yeah...richards was great
05:21 <GodTodd> thing is...strayhorn knew she wouldn't win in the primary so what makes her think she can beat perry in the real thing?
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> she thinks she can attract democrat voters that couldn't vote in the primary :)
05:21 <GodTodd> nah...cuz she's still a damn republican :)
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, the Democrats found themselves a good candidate.  Bell is an excellent candidate.
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, you know, in Texas the difference is basically "do you like smoking pot?".  If you answer yes, you're a democrat, if you answer no, you're a republican.
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> everything else....same parties.  Heh.
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't start disliking the Democratic party until I saw their mainstream members up in Seattle.  Democrats in Texas are pretty reasonable, they're conservative enough not to be stupid, but liberal enough not to be stupid either.
05:23 <GodTodd> what about me? i don't know if i like smoking pot but i don't care if anyone else does :)
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> ah, you're a libertarian.  :)
05:23 <GodTodd> nah...i like to think of myself as GDI
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> God Damned Invincible?
05:24 <GodTodd> God Damned Independent
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> instead of calling them political parties, they should just call them clans
05:25 <GodTodd> Giving students a break at the bookstore by making textbooks tax-free.
05:25 <GodTodd> that's a good one for me there :)
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05:29 <GodTodd> so...what's his deal on the toll roads? change what we have or just stop building them?
05:29 <GodTodd> hahaha
05:29 <GodTodd> Others argue that the answer is to spend billions of dollars that we don’t have on a 20-foot-high wall that won’t accomplish anything but create a huge market for 21-foot-high ladders.
05:30 <GodTodd> i like that one :)
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I liked that too :)
05:32 <GodTodd> holy shit...
05:32 <GodTodd> each CPS worker has 74 kids?
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, crazy isn't it?
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> they can't even see 1 kid per day and see all of their kids in 2 months
05:33 <GodTodd> yeah
05:33 <GodTodd> that's nuts
05:33 <GodTodd> no wonder all these kids are dying
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> average CPS worker is also supposedly 24, no kids, new degree and couldn't find work with it, turned to state work
05:34 <GodTodd> i believe it
05:34 <GodTodd> hmmm...bell doesn't say how he's gonna fix CPS tho
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> no, he gives goals there instead
05:34 <GodTodd> where?
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> the thing is, you have to take their plans with a grain of salt.
05:35 <GodTodd> yeah
05:35 <GodTodd> i know
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> What matters to me about bell is that he presents problems I agree are problems, he presents facts that are well-sourced, and he presents reasonable solutions.
05:35 <GodTodd> thing is...it's not going to be as simple as hiring 6 times as many caseworkers
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> if he can do that in office and get shit done...
05:35 <GodTodd> thing is...how much will he be able to get done?
05:36 <GodTodd> although...knowing the problem is half of the solution
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's either give someone like bell a chance to try to do something and risk paralyzing the legislature or let Perry intentionally destroy the state posing for a Presidential contest
05:38 <GodTodd> true
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> why is it that when we have a candidate as bad as perry all these damn popular independents have to come out?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> total up Strayhorn's, Friedman's, and Bell's supporters and you get a majority, but bet Perry wins with a plurality
05:38 <GodTodd> because they all think they can be the dark horse that beats the bad incumbent
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> Texans want a change, goddammit, but we're not going to get it
05:40 <GodTodd> and see...even if kinky won do you really think he'd convince the legislature of *anything*?
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> I think politicians should have to show sportsmanship during the race.  All these insults flying around is just bad.
05:40 <GodTodd> yeah...i hate mudslinging
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's why I'm leaning towards bell.  I want kinky to win, but I have a feeling he'd get laughed out of the legislature
05:41 <GodTodd> i'd almost count on it
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> they'll take bell seriously, though, and he might even be able to reverse the partisan trend Perry gave us
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> if he just does that and about half of the election reforms he wants, we'll be in a much better spot
05:41 <GodTodd> yeah...bell seems to be "one of them" enough to at least bend their ears
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he's a tree-hugging Darth Vader
05:42 <GodTodd> heh
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> I like his "get 15% of texas energy from texas-owned renewable resources by 2010" thing
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> we can do that, too.  That's achievable.
05:43 <GodTodd> yeah...he and kinky both seem teed off that we buy our energy
05:43 <GodTodd> we're the fucking oil state :)
05:44 <GodTodd> evidence of which you smell all over west texas
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  Kinky makes a big deal about biodiesel fuel, says if it's good enough to run Willie Nelson's tour bus, it's good enough for Texas.
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> is that that smell in west texas?  I knew something out there stunk...
05:44 <GodTodd> yeah
05:44 <GodTodd> skunks and refineries
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> ironically, the strongest smell memory I have in west texas is water
05:44 <GodTodd> willie nelson's tour bus runs on biodiesel and willie runs on pot ;)
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> at least they use renewable resources :)
05:45 <GodTodd> haha
05:45 <GodTodd> there's one refinerie...on the way to artesia i think....that's right on the highway....damn that stinks
05:46 <GodTodd> *refinery
05:46 <GodTodd> on hwy 380
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> man, nothing smells worse than the Ore Ida plant out in Wyoming
05:47 <GodTodd> heh
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> I had to smoke 3 cigarettes simulataneously just to be able to breathe
05:48 <GodTodd> i dunno...them oil fields are pretty bad
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> man, it's a potato factory!
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> you started smelling it from miles away, nd the road goes right by it
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> and you keep smelling it for miles afterwards
05:50 <GodTodd> hey...i spent a lot of time in a state that smells like stockyards :P
05:51 <GodTodd> ...and is full of meat packing plants....you smelled old animal blood?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> you'd think the ore ida plant would smell like french fries and wouldn't be that bad, but it didn't.  Or if it did, it smelled like french fries from before the big bang, highly compressed matter burning etc etc
05:53 <GodTodd> yeah...i could see them burning a lot
05:53 <GodTodd> kinda like the frito lay plant in omaha
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> this was a very new smell for me.  I've been by meat packing plants, breweries, and driven through the cliched fields of manure
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> Hey, I'm the guy that likes the smell of the skunk in the road ahead of you
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> *me
05:54 <GodTodd> you and my oldest ;)
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> smart kid!  :)
05:54 <GodTodd> he busts a gut everytime we smell a skunk
05:57 <GodTodd> you really don't know how fucking huge this state is until you drive across it :/
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> only done that once :)
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> I've done Austin->El Paso lots, though
05:57 <GodTodd> we do DFW -> Alamo a couple times a year
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> when I was a kid we drove down I-10 most of the way, but I don't know the exact route we took
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> it was coming back from Pennsylvania and we drove the whole way
05:58 <GodTodd> ouch
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> er, and Phoenix was our destination
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> when I drove down from seattle I came down through Oklahoma City, so one of the shortest paths to Austin from another state
05:59 <GodTodd> yeah...that should have put you right through DFW
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  I veered right through FW :)
06:00 <GodTodd> over by Mineral Wells and stuff?
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> left that morning from about 1 hour inside the Colorado border into Kansas, had lunch with my brother, then headed south from Salina
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> Mineral Wells?  ?
06:01 <GodTodd> kansas sucks
06:01 <Your_mom_arma> mineral town?
06:01 <GodTodd> mineral wells is a little town on that side
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> kansas would have been the shittiest part of the drive if it weren't for Oklahoma
06:01 <GodTodd> yeah...oklahoma is no prize either
06:01 <GodTodd> there's a reason we put all the reservations there ;)
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:02  * Lucifer_arma notes that if his wife's family could prove their native blood they'd own most of Oklahoma
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> hence the reason Oklahoma gives them a cold shoulder whenever they try to research it
06:02 <GodTodd> that and a dollar would buy one item at the dollar store
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, they could trade acre for acre for land in New Mexico
06:04 <GodTodd> that would be ok...depending on where in NM
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> that was actually a fun drive.  I'm wanting to do another long cross-country drive, heh.
06:05 <GodTodd> yeah...i'd like to do something like that too
06:05 <GodTodd> see what i could see :)
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, I drove to Milwaukee via Minnesota
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> from here
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> went up I35 almost to the canadian border, starting from pretty near the mexican border
06:06 <GodTodd> heh...i flew to milwaukee
06:07 <GodTodd> but i was only going for like 3 days
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> and back, of course.  There's some beautiful country in Wisconsin
06:07 <GodTodd> yeah...i noticed that
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> and the place where we crossed the mississippi was a beautiful gorge
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> then I drove from austin to Seattle, which gives some wonderful desert scenery.  That was in late November, so there was lots of good wintry stuff to see
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> we went through Santa Fe on that drive, and Utah, SLC, etc.  Up near Snake Canyon in Idaho, then cut a chord through Oregon.
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> In the winter that was a beautiful drive
06:08 <GodTodd> i bet
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> coming back was in the summer, and it was still a beautiful drive, especially since I got to go through Wyoming
06:09 <GodTodd> closest i've gotten to utah was the grand canyon
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> You know that Megadeth song, Hook in Mouth?
06:09 <GodTodd> yeah
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> That song came on, right?  I had a laptop plugged in and was listening to my mp3 collection, and that song came on
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> It was still dark, but it was dawning
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> that by itself is awesome, right?  I was driving into the sunrise, no less
06:10 <GodTodd> right
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> Then there was a small town ahead of me, I could see it's lights
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> Southwest corner of Wyoming, I was in
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> so, the verse gets to the part where the whole band comes in and it's not just drums and singing, and that part hit right when I drove through a tunnel I had been eyeing for a ways
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> the tunnel was long enough to last all the way to the chorus, and when I came out of the chorus I saw, err
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> lemme see if I can dig up a picture
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> not that I took, I was too caught up in the moment to even think of where my camera was :)
06:11 <GodTodd> heh
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> http://wyoming.gov/images/summer/hp-pictures/devilsTower.jpg  <--- I think it was this, I remember seeing the signs, but that picture doesn't match what I saw
06:16 <GodTodd> is that kind of what you saw?
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.wyomingtalesandtrails.com/griver2.html
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> those are old photos, but I-80 goes right behind that monolith-looking thing in those pictures
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> and Rock Springs is a much bigger town now
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> the tunnel is off these pictures, and it's a modern lighted tunnel.  Damn thing looked like that little tunnel Luke goes through when he's fighting darth vader in ESB
06:20 <GodTodd> heh
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> it was just one of those times where I was in a pretty scenic place and the circumstances + scenery combined to create something resembling a dream sequence
06:20 <GodTodd> i've had those before
06:20 <GodTodd> they rock :)
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> ads on the wiki now, let's see how they do
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> oops, forgot I would show a lan ping to that server
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's my kernel causing those jumps
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07:19 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma http://www.motherboards.org/articles/guides/41_1.html
07:50 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cs8k-cyu/windows/tt_e.html
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> which one of you is idyot?
07:55 <spidey> don't call me that
07:55 <spidey> :((
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08:05 <Your_mom_arma> armabot!!
08:05 <DrJoeTron> oh god
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08:11 <Lucifer_arma> oh what?
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08:32 <Lucifer_arma> On closer examination, Pixel may not be dead after all. The tanks and frame still seem square and tight. We are going to hydrotest everything, and possibly re-weld the computer mounting points and the other things that are broken. I still want to do side-by-side vertical drag racing demos with the pair of vehicles.
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08:58 <wrtlprnft> !!!
08:58 <wrtlprnft> guru3 is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 12 people! 
08:58 <wrtlprnft> guru3's faithful follower, Luke-Jr, kicked about 1 people.
09:00  * wrtlprnft doesn't feel safe in this channel anymore
09:02 <wrtlprnft> though I'd probably have done the same if someone OP'd me :P
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09:06 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=3b8G8delDlk&eurl=http%3A//www.vgcats.com/&iurl=http%3A//sjl-static6.sjl.youtube.com/vi/3b8G8delDlk/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskIm7aDyb5L45b5op2mkBv9C
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> I'd have kicked myself, it's the only right thing to do
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09:31 <wrtlprnft> #g 139.654/2
09:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 139.65400 / 2 = 69.82700
09:38 <wrtlprnft> #g 46.965-9.488
09:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 46.96500 - 9.48800 = 37.47700
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12:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (5/14): ., AHKYAH, CT|Ðr.Fu×{, delarge, ~[xS]~Square
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17:40  * guru3 concurs
17:41  * spidey hates thursdays
17:41 <spidey> bbl, gotta go test
17:41 <guru3> cu
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18:34 <B-Minus> hey
18:34 <B-Minus> is there a FPS view available ?
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18:35 <madmax|pt> there's an incam
18:36 <B-Minus> how can i see it
18:39 <madmax|pt> player settings > Camera setup, or by pressing the switch view key some times
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18:56 <madmax|pt> google ads @ wiki?
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18:58 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=9591
19:01 <madmax|pt> tks
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20:37 <[Xpert]DarkStar> anyone got irssi and utf8?
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20:38 <[dlh]> yep
20:38 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i got a problems with messages longer than one line
20:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> they would sometimes fuck everything up
20:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and even /redraw doesnt fix it
20:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i _think_ there is a problem with the newline character
20:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but i have no idea
20:39 <wrtlprnft> newline shouldn't be important
20:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> :/
20:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> maybe the length of the lines then
20:40 <wrtlprnft> as \n is char 10, and all chars < 128 are the same in utf-8 and latin-1
20:40 <wrtlprnft> jfg nkljsdflksdf gndlkjsf ngölakjsd ngflöaksdsakdn fölkasdhfölnkasd nfölkasdjklöfasdn fölkasd nföljkasdfölaskdhfnölaskjdfnädalkjsfäkldsfj äSDlö fäjkasdljf öldsfjk äas-dlfj mäsadlkf ja#sd
20:40 <wrtlprnft> like that?
20:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
20:40 <[dlh]> I just set LC_CTYPE and everything worked fine…
20:40 <wrtlprnft> appears fine on my screen
20:41 <wrtlprnft> but i'm running irssi in a screen session, so…
20:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> same here
20:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> irssi in screen
20:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> any problems with that?
20:41 <wrtlprnft> uh, there is some option you need to give to it
20:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> to screen?
20:41 <wrtlprnft> 1
20:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> eg i have to restart irssi?
20:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 20:42:18 Irssi uptime: 22d 0h 2m 24s
20:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> :(
20:42 <wrtlprnft> no
20:42 <wrtlprnft> C-A:utf8 on<return>
20:42 <[Xpert]DarkStar> tf8 on
20:42 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
20:42 <[Xpert]DarkStar> forgot the :
20:42 <[Xpert]DarkStar> thnx alot
20:42 <wrtlprnft> yw
20:42 <[Xpert]DarkStar> working perfectly now :D
20:42 <wrtlprnft> jfg nkljsdflksdf gndlkjsf ngölakjsd ngflöaksdsakdn fölkasdhfölnkasd nfölkasdjklöfasdn fölkasd nföljkasdfölaskdhfnölaskjdfnädalkjsfäkldsfj äSDlö fäjkasdljf öldsfjk äas-dlfj mäsadlkf ja#sd
20:42 <wrtlprnft> looking ok?
20:43 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:43 <luke-jr_work> y'all are gonna miss a turn!
20:43 <luke-jr_work> Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Vanhayes to finish turn...
20:43 <luke-jr_work> Turn-blocking game play: waiting on GodTodd to finish turn...
20:43 <luke-jr_work> Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Wang Gon to finish turn...
20:43 <luke-jr_work> Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Wrtlprnft to finish turn...
20:44 <luke-jr_work> Turn-blocking game play: waiting on mogorman to finish turn...
20:44 <luke-jr_work> Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Rosalía de Castro to finish turn...
20:44 <luke-jr_work> Turn-blocking game play: waiting on undead to finish turn...
20:44 <luke-jr_work> Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Your_mom to finish turn...
20:44 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: what about 1te2d?
20:44 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, no, 1tpd is slow enough
20:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> damnit... when i type umlauts they look fubar now :S
20:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but only the ones i type
20:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> äöü
20:44 <wrtlprnft> -umm
20:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> do they look normal to you?
20:45 <wrtlprnft> no
20:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> shit
20:45 <wrtlprnft> try :utf8 on on
20:45 <wrtlprnft> or read man screen and figure it out :P
20:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> äöü
20:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> w4rkz?
20:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> err
20:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> works?
20:45 <[dlh]> yes
20:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> :D
20:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> thnx again
20:45 <wrtlprnft> yw again
20:46 <wrtlprnft> the first option is whether whatever's running in the window outputs utf-8, the second one is whether the terminal is sending it
20:46 <wrtlprnft> (i think)
20:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ah k
20:49 <Commn> #armaservers
20:49 <armabot> Commn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Strawberry Fields (10 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (9 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Server (8 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (5 players) || °¯ps arena (4 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (3 players) (1 more message)
20:51 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here for some multivariable calculus?
20:51 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: what's the question?
20:52 <wrtlprnft> I'm catching up pretty quickly now that I'm back
20:52 <Lucifer_arma> lim (x,y)->(0,0) (xycosy)/(3x^2 + y^2)
20:52 <wrtlprnft> hmm
20:53 <Lucifer_arma> I did x=0 and let y->0 and got 0.  Same for y=0.  So I did y=mx and got a function of m instead, so if you change m you change the limit
20:53 <Lucifer_arma> I forgot what that means, but I think it means the limit does not exist :)
20:54 <wrtlprnft> well, if you have one var at 0 the answer is always gonna be 0
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> right, but that's only along the axis.  The function is a surface, so you have to try other paths.  y=mx is trying along all non-axis lines
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> I checked the answer in the back of the book and it says "does not exist".  I was wanting to reason to it, I guess I did.  :)
20:57 <wrtlprnft> ah
20:57 <wrtlprnft> well, if you graph that it does some weird things at the orign
20:58 <Lucifer_arma> here you go, there's an answer in the back of the book for this:
20:58 <Lucifer_arma> lim (x,y)->(0,0) xy/sqrt(x^2 + y^2)
20:59 <Lucifer_arma> that's obviously 0 along the axis, you get 0/sqrt(something)
20:59 <wrtlprnft> yep
20:59 <wrtlprnft> that means the lim is 0?
21:00 <wrtlprnft> actually, that can only mean that if a lim is defined, it has to be 0
21:00 <Lucifer_arma> along the axis.  Basically you can't prove the limit exists, you just find several paths that show the same limit
21:01 <wrtlprnft> it's another question if the lim is the same for all directions to come from
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> I get 0 for y=mx, which tests all lines through the point
21:01 <wrtlprnft> let's see what happens if you let x=y
21:01 <wrtlprnft> x^2/sqrt(2*x^2)
21:01 <wrtlprnft> =x^2/sqrt(2)*x
21:02 <wrtlprnft> =x/sqrt(2)
21:02 <wrtlprnft> => lim is 0
21:02 <wrtlprnft> same with x=-y
21:02 <wrtlprnft> oh, actually that's what you did, sorry
21:02 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, if you do y=mx you test those lines and a whole slew of others simultaneously.  :)  You wind up with:
21:02  * wrtlprnft should read more carefully
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> mx/sqrt(1 + m^2), and as x->0, that limit is 0 all day and twice on sunday :)
21:03 <wrtlprnft> lol
21:03 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, ready to take some turns? ;p
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> you can also do y=x^2 and check that path, but our teacher says check the axis lines and y=mx and unless you have a contour plot that shows funky stuff, you can usually stop there
21:04 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_work: nah, test today.  My calc teacher nailed us with a test and a half in 1 week, and the half test is today
21:04 <wrtlprnft> why not y=mx^a? ;)
21:04 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: is the teacher from UT?
21:05  * wrtlprnft hates how Lucifer_arma is always a step or two ahead of him
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: no
21:05 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: then he quite obviously doesn't know anything...don't listen to him ;)
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> you'll probably catch me in another semester or two.  :)  Just wait till I start asking for help with physics
21:05 <wrtlprnft> we just calculated the volume of SORs
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> that was fun.  :)  So are you about to do the big application part?
21:06 <wrtlprnft> big application?
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, solids of rotation was just preparation for a big application section
21:06 <wrtlprnft> like what?
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> hydrostatic pressure
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> work
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> work problems were things like "how much work to raise a spaceship to <some pretty high> altitude?"
21:07 <wrtlprnft> that sounds more like physics
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> where the effect of gravity significantly diminishes as the ship gets higher
21:07 <wrtlprnft> OTOH, we did something similar in physics already
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, they all amount to the same thing.  FInd the thing that's changing and take a slice of it.  Then you come up with a Riemann Sum in there and you can use an integral to find the answer
21:08 <wrtlprnft> just about electric potential and Coulomb's law
21:08 <wrtlprnft> as i said, the application to that we already did in another subject
21:08 <wrtlprnft> just not with gravity, but that wouldn't be much different i guess
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> center of gravity for things that either don't have a constant density or are just weirdly shaped
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> well, it could be presented in physics instead, here you get introduced to it in the calculus sequence and the calculus-based physics sequence will go into more detail
21:09 <wrtlprnft> anyways, according to the book the next thing would be about inverse functions and integrals
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> you did solids of rotation without integrals?
21:10 <wrtlprnft> no, of course we used them
21:10 <wrtlprnft> but on relatively simple functions
21:10 <wrtlprnft> we only know the inregral of x^n and the addition and constant factor law
21:10 <wrtlprnft> and the integral of some special functions like ln
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh.  Probably just a different ordered class is all.  :)
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> the same class where we did solids of rotation also did in-depth techniques of integration
21:11 <wrtlprnft> well, AFAIK we only did SORs because we just wrote our test and it was the last class before holidays
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> and it was the second semester of calculus, which is a 3-semester class for most people.  (I have to take the fourth semester for aerospace engineering, which is 4+ dimensions)
21:12 <wrtlprnft> and because he planned to return the test that day and didn't manage to do so
21:12 <wrtlprnft> well, school is 3 more semesters + this one for me
21:13 <Lucifer_arma> so you'll probably have finished the basic study of calculus for that, I can't see it taking too long
21:13 <wrtlprnft> then I'll need to do military service (beurks) and then university, probably
21:13 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, there's a high school kid in my calc 3 class who's already had 2 years of calculus
21:13 <Lucifer_arma> there's required military service in germany?
21:13 <wrtlprnft> well, calculus starts at grade 11, but i missed that
21:13 <wrtlprnft> yeah :(
21:14 <wrtlprnft> or i could do civil service, which takes longer and sucks even more
21:16 <Lucifer_arma> military service could be a lot of fun
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> before we had a Klingon president I've often considered military service
21:18 <wrtlprnft> umm, well
21:18 <wrtlprnft> i'm not the sporty kind of guy
21:19 <wrtlprnft> sporty or whatever it's ought to be called
21:19  * Lucifer_arma notes that modern militaries tend to require very technical skills
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, you just can't beat "rebuild this engine in 2 hours or we're all dead"
21:20 <Lucifer_arma> they can swap out a jet engine on the field in 1 hour, iirc.
21:20 <Lucifer_arma> as long as a certain subset of parts isn't damaged, they can rebuild that engine pretty quickly, too
21:20 <Lucifer_arma> I think of it as kind of like having sex in adventurous places
21:21 <GodTodd> with people shooting at you
21:21 <GodTodd> heh
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> there's also the base appeal of just blowing shit up.  I always thought firing a mortar would be a lot of fun, anyway
21:24 <MaZuffeR> i can tell from experience that blowing up a 10kg anit-tank mine is quite fun
21:24 <MaZuffeR> *anti
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> yay, partial derivatives
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> I need a smoke before this
21:47 <spidey> ??
21:48  * spidey just got home xD
21:54 <DrJoeTron> do you guys have any objections to me posting armagetron on the something awful boards?
21:55 <Lucifer_arma> will it get us more annoying clans?
21:55 <DrJoeTron> no idea
21:56 <DrJoeTron> theres 85,000+ people registered to these boards
21:56 <Lucifer_arma> more annoying noobs?  (contrasted with fun noobs, most fun players were fun noobs and most annoying players were annoying noobs)
21:56 <DrJoeTron> its about half and half
21:56 <DrJoeTron> they're some really cool and really foul people
21:56 <Lucifer_arma> so you're offering us 42,500 annoying noobs?
21:57 <DrJoeTron> yes
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> please, by all means, post it!
21:58  * GodTodd would be an annoying noob...which is why i never really played with other people ;)
21:58 <DrJoeTron> i mean War§ow was posted for crying outloud
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> er
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> derivative of 1/x is ln(x), right?  heh
22:00 <DrJoeTron> hmm. I'll post it next time another freeware thread pops up
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> NO!
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> armagetron is NOT freeware!
22:00 <spidey> rofl
22:01 <DrJoeTron> oh man scorched earth 3d
22:01 <spidey> DrJoeTron, defcon?
22:01 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: uh, the integral of ln(x) is ln(x), so how can 1/x derive to ln(x)?
22:01 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, wanna finish that game tonight?
22:02 <DrJoeTron> maybe later
22:02 <DrJoeTron> im going out to find my brother a new monitor
22:02 <spidey> =(
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: integral of ln(x) isn't ln(x)
22:02 <spidey> find me one to xD
22:02 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: it isn't?
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm not on crack
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> derivative of ln(x) is 1/x, integral of ln(x) can't be done
22:03 <spidey> #g integral of ln(x)
22:03 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> you have to integrate by parts when you have integral of ln(x)
22:04 <wrtlprnft> ummmmm
22:04 <luke-jr_work> #g derivative of ln(x)
22:04 <armabot> luke-jr_work: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:04 <wrtlprnft> first of all, the derivative of 1/x is ln(abs(x))
22:04 <wrtlprnft> *the integral
22:04 <wrtlprnft> d'uh, and you're right about ln'(x)
22:05 <wrtlprnft> i had e^x in mind, whith differentiates to itself
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> fine, whatever, I'm trying to do the partial derivative of (x + y) / (x - y)
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> and not getting anywhere near what's in the book, heh
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> apparently ln doesn't figure into it
22:05 <spidey> #g (x+y)/(x-y)
22:05 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:05 <spidey> ....
22:06 <wrtlprnft> spidey: it aint that easy
22:06 <spidey> heh
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I needed to use the quotient rule, not ln(x)
22:08 <luke-jr_work> duh!
22:09 <wrtlprnft> ln(x) is the integral of 1/x, not the derivative!
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> right, so 1/x is the derivative of ln(x)
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> wait, errr
22:10  * Lucifer_arma notes it hasn't even been a year since he "memorized" that one, and he's already going dyslexic on it
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter.  :)  The problem needed a quotient rule
22:11 <wrtlprnft> :P
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> aha!
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> f(r,s) =r ln(r^2 + s^2)
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> need to find both first partials
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> aha!  This is a piece of cake!  :)
22:15 <GodTodd> no...it's calculus
22:15 <GodTodd> :P
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> u = te^(w/t)
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22:21 <DrJoeTron> http://www.dr.dk/Forms/Published/PlaylistGen.aspx?qid=293278&postingGuid={24C0C62C-FA47-48D8-AFDF-D9C5CABC26E2 Note to computer experts:  clear your download history before you're on TV
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> errr
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> what's the derivative of tangent?  :)
22:24 <[NP]Tangent> (sec x)^2
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> ty
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> last semester was all integrals, so apparently I've forgotten a few derivatives...
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22:28 <Lucifer_arma> *phew*
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> I just have to review 11.4, and I stil have 2 hours to class
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I have to leave here in the next hour or I'll spend an hour in traffic
22:29  * Lucifer_arma thinks it would be worthwhile to just review all the derivatives he has "memorized"
22:30 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron: i assume you are referring to that dude that advertised his penchant for 'teen-blowjob-fuck' video clips ;)
22:32 <DrJoeTron> yup :D
22:33 <GodTodd> i had to go back to it...dumbass didn't clear the dl manager...and then they showed his name too :D
22:33 <DrJoeTron> its made my day so far
22:34 <GodTodd> kinda like that radio shack CEO that just got busted with child porn on his work issued computer
22:34 <DrJoeTron> gary glitter had the same thing 
22:34 <DrJoeTron> he's gotten in trouble for it many times
22:34 <GodTodd> well...gary glitter had a whole lot of other stuff too
22:35 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig wingmen
22:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: SPAWN_WINGMEN_BACK: Determines how much each wingman is placed backwards in a team. (default: 2.2029) || SPAWN_WINGMEN_SIDE: Determines how much each wingman is placed sidewards in a team. (default: 2.75362)
22:35 <GodTodd> the radio shack lesson: before you take your work computer to IT to get fixed...get all the illegal porn off of it ;)
22:36 <DrJoeTron> i keep seeing topics that would be perfect for our boards
22:36 <DrJoeTron> like What was the most expensive thing you've ever broken?
22:36 <GodTodd> world trade....errr...nevermind
22:37 <DrJoeTron> pft 
22:37 <DrJoeTron> i broke the jordan river
22:38  * GodTodd is testing the NSA.  If they are monitoring me I should get a knock on the door any...just a sec, need to get the door.
22:39 <GodTodd> how'd you break the jordan river?
22:39  * GodTodd bites.
22:39 <DrJoeTron> i was drilling for diamond oil
22:40 <DrJoeTron> underneath it right?
22:40 <DrJoeTron> well, there was a mine under there that i hadn't been inform of
22:40 <DrJoeTron> so...
22:40  * DrJoeTron flush
22:40 <GodTodd> heh
22:41 <DrJoeTron> brb
22:42 <GodTodd> don't answer the door...it's a trap
22:42 <GodTodd> they say they have cool electronic shit for you then they punch you repeatedly
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> now I have about 45 minutes to get the hang of using a tangent plane to approximate function values near a point
22:45 <[NP]Tangent> y=2x^2+4x+8 --> dy/dx=4x+4
22:45 <[NP]Tangent> best kid of derivative
22:45 <[NP]Tangent> kind*
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> nah, these partial derivatives are fun :)
22:51 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
22:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: Strawberry Fields (10 players) || °¯ps arena (10 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (7 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (7 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || The Lobster Cage (5 players) || (1 more message)
22:51 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails °¯ps arena
22:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: °¯ps arena: Players (10/16): -|ct|-ed-, ender|mbc|, Lackadaisical, newbÎe, Sticky, ~*$PàM*~, °¯rain, °°@shitakA, °°Gay-Lin, °°Olato
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> differentials, anyone?
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> I think the book's wrong
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> nvm, book's right
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> time to go, bbl
23:18 <GodTodd> gl
23:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
23:20 <wrtlprnft> you know what your stupid nitpicky resource spec warning thing just did?
23:21 <wrtlprnft> well, let me tell you: I was testing a new map alone on a test server, and noticed the warning it gave me because I had a typo in the name attr of the resource tag
23:22 <wrtlprnft> so I fixed the map on the repository, but as I was the only one on the server (that means the only one who ever saw that map) I didn't increase the version number
23:22 <wrtlprnft> i deleted it from my client's cache, and put the map on the nearly full CTWF server sharing the same local repository cache as the test server
23:24 <GodTodd> well...clearly...you aren't supposed to make and fix a mistake ;)
23:24 <wrtlprnft> i have to agree with Lucifer_arma now, killing arma because of a resource spec mistake is way overshooting the target. please remove the part that kills the server. Make it print a huge big warnign center message if you like, but don't kill the server
23:24 <wrtlprnft> everyone makes typos once in a while
23:25 <wrtlprnft> imagine what a dumb situation this is for me
23:25 <wrtlprnft> i've been admin on that server for like 3 days now, and already i managed to spoil a nice ongoing match
23:26 <spidey> hm
23:26 <wrtlprnft> and, imagine what would have happened if i hadn't stayed until the error occured
23:26 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, can we wait till saterday to finish that freeciv game?
23:26 <wrtlprnft> if it had shut down while i was absent, and crashed everytime someone would join
23:29 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails wild
23:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (6/14): free kill, GluGGsel, Leanne, Luck, mathieu, Zack
23:30 <wrtlprnft> it's up now.
23:31 <DrJoeTron>  /back
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23:34 <wrtlprnft> #g 30/4
23:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 30 / 4 = 7.5
23:35 <wrtlprnft> #ping
23:35 <armabot> pong
23:35 <Vanhayes> #pong
23:35 <armabot> ping
23:35 <wrtlprnft> why isn't she responding to me in queries?
23:35 <Vanhayes> not identified?
23:36 <wrtlprnft> that was it
23:36 <wrtlprnft> the many netsplits must have screwed it up
23:37 <wrtlprnft> wtf
23:37 <wrtlprnft> it's unregistering me everytime i try to send a pm
23:37 <Vanhayes> weird
23:37 <Vanhayes> #whoami
23:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: I don't recognize you.
23:37 <Vanhayes> #whoami
23:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes
23:37 <Vanhayes> works for me
23:39  * wrtlprnft is gonna ask a staffer, this is weird
23:44 <wrtlprnft> i can't contact a staffer as /stats p doesn't seem to work
23:44 <wrtlprnft> well, i'm gonna spam you with #g commands then
23:44 <wrtlprnft> #g 20*7.5
23:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 20 * 7.5 = 150
23:44 <wrtlprnft> #g 30*7.5
23:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 30 * 7.5 = 225
23:44 <wrtlprnft> #g 5*7.5
23:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 5 * 7.5 = 37.5
23:45 <wrtlprnft> #g 4*7.5
23:45 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 4 * 7.5 = 30
23:45 <wrtlprnft> #g .25*7.5
23:45 <armabot> wrtlprnft: .25 * 7.5 = 1.87500
23:45 <wrtlprnft> #g 8*7.5
23:45 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 8 * 7.5 = 60
23:50 <wrtlprnft> #g 2.2*7.5
23:50 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 2.2 * 7.5 = 16.5
23:50 <wrtlprnft> #g 2.75*7.5
23:50 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 2.75 * 7.5 = 20.62500
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23:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> to all ppl with utf8: do these look correct to you? -> äöü
23:56 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:56 <wrtlprnft> they do
23:56 <wrtlprnft> #g 25*7.5
23:56 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 25 * 7.5 = 187.5
23:57 <wrtlprnft> #g 23*7.5
23:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 23 * 7.5 = 172.5
23:57 <wrtlprnft> #g 20*7.5
23:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
23:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 20 * 7.5 = 150
23:57 <wrtlprnft> #g 64*7.5
23:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 64 * 7.5 = 480
23:57 <wrtlprnft> #g 7*7.5
23:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 7 * 7.5 = 52.5
23:57 <wrtlprnft> #g 24*7.5
23:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 24 * 7.5 = 180
23:57 <wrtlprnft> #g 12*7.5
23:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 12 * 7.5 = 90
23:58 <wrtlprnft> #g 72*7.5
23:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 72 * 7.5 = 540
23:58 <wrtlprnft> #g 84*7.5
23:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 84 * 7.5 = 630
23:58 <wrtlprnft> #g 48*7.5
23:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 48 * 7.5 = 360

Log from 2006-11-03:
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00:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
00:07 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
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00:14 <Compn> #armaservers
00:14 <armabot> Compn: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (7 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Server (6 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || (1 more message)
00:16 <Compn> ug
00:16 <Compn> wild west wild fort?
00:16 <Compn> what happened to regular?
00:21 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig accel
00:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_ACCEL: Wall acceleration factor (default: 10) || CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your enemies' walls (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_OFFSET: Minimum numeric wall distance, must be positive (default: 2) || CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for the rim (3 more messages)
00:21 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: walls (default: 0) || CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your own wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT: Multiplicator to the total effect of (2 more messages)
00:21 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_ACCEL, if the cycle is between its own wall and another wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your temmates' walls (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM differs from its default? (default: (1 more message)
00:21 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TUNNEL: Multiplicator to the total effect of CYCLE_ACCEL, if the cycle is between two walls not created by it (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TUNNEL_OVERRIDE: cycle_accel_tunnel_override_help (default: 3)
00:22 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig mindistance
00:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE: The minimal distance rubber code keeps you from the wall in front of you (default: 0.001) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_LEGACY: Extra factor for minimal distance to walls enforced by the rubber code, active when peers with the rip bug are connected (default: 1) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE differs from its default? (4 more messages)
00:23 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_PREPARATION: Timescale in seconds a cycle's last turn time is compared with to determine the effect of CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED. (default: 0.2) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_PREPARATION_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_PREPARATION differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RATIO: Additional (3 more messages)
00:23 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: distance to CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE for every length unit of the wall you have in front of you (default: 1e-04) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RATIO_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RATIO differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RESERVOIR: Addidional distance if you have an empty rubber meter (gets faded out gradually as you use up all your rubber) (2 more messages)
00:23 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (default: 0.005) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RESERVOIR_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RESERVOIR differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED: Additional distance for unprepared grinds; it gets applied when the cycle's last turn was just a fraction of a second ago and faded out preparation times larger than (1 more message)
00:32 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, what are you talking about?
00:34 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, z-man implemented the error, but I still would defend it triggering ;p
00:34 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, though I fully agree an error shouldn't kick players
00:52 <wrtlprnft> well, it shuts down the entire server
00:52 <wrtlprnft> print a visible message that you can't miss, ok, but don't affect the players
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00:57 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, good idea (even if an old one)
00:57 <luke-jr_work> let me know when it works :)
00:57 <luke-jr_work> it should apply to invalid maps too
00:57 <luke-jr_work> btw
00:57 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/fortress/sumo_spiral-1.aamap.xml
00:57  * wrtlprnft loves inkscape
00:58 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: well, invalid maps are a serious failure, but some unimportant resource filepath crap isn't that important
00:58 <wrtlprnft> something unimportant isn't that important, heh
00:59 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, resource filepath is quite important
01:00 <luke-jr_work> I think there was a problem that prompted z-man putting the check in place
01:00 <Your_mom_arma> luke  can you perma ai me on 1tpd as i kinda gave up on it
01:00 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma, LAME
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> so boring
01:01 <luke-jr_work> only cuz you make each turn take 23 hrs
01:01 <luke-jr_work> which is why I gladly AI you
01:01 <luke-jr_work> now we might make some real progress
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> luke i cant remember the last time i took a turn
01:01 <luke-jr_work> 24 then
01:02  * luke-jr_work ponders polling /set timeout 43200
01:02 <luke-jr_work> nah, I'd miss turns like that
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01:11 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: ya ai me too, just too boring for me
01:12 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, now that your mom is gone it shouldn't be
01:12 <luke-jr_work> unless you take his place in being slow
01:13  * wrtlprnft will take it
01:13 <wrtlprnft> but i think it's quite boring either way
01:16 <Vanhayes> well ai me or dont, I doubt ill come back to it
01:17 <Vanhayes> to much hassle finding the host then going into my logs to get that long unmemorable pass, for only at most 5 min of play
01:22 <wrtlprnft> yeah
01:22 <wrtlprnft> you can do the host, port and username with command line options, though
01:23 <wrtlprnft> civclient -s hachi.dashjr.org -p 5550 -n wrtlprnft
01:23 <wrtlprnft> but not the pass, which is the most unmemorable of them all
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02:07 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
02:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || [Sol Draconis]¤£ (6 players) || The Lobster Cage (6 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (3 players) || (1 more message)
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> [18:02] <luke-jr_work> only cuz you make each turn take 23 hrs
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> [18:02] <luke-jr_work> which is why I gladly AI you
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> [18:02] <luke-jr_work> now we might make some real progress
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> so you don't really want a 1 turn per day game?
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> you offered us 1 turn per day, but you expect to get, say, 5 turns per day instead?
02:46  * Lucifer_arma is playing a game that seems to only get 5 turns per day, but that's because it's in modern warfare against a smallpoxed ai, turns naturally take a long time.
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03:16 <Lucifer_arma> we now have the gift of ghableska 
03:17 <ghableska> hmm?
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
03:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 53.4°F (8:15 PM CST on November 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa. 
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's getting downright cold now
03:17 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:18 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 30.2°F (7:54 PM CST on November 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.41 in 1030 hPa. 
03:18 <ghableska> heh
03:21 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
03:21 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 44.2°F (8:22 PM CST on November 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa. 
03:21 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
03:22 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 32.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Wind: CLM at 0 mph (0 km/h).
03:22 <ghableska> how current is "current," exactly?
03:22 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: I said from the start it's 1tpd minimum
03:44 <GodTodd> that's not how you put it to me
03:44 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6112338.stm heh
03:47 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: no, I probably asked you after the point where I got tired of typing it all out and just said "1tpd"
03:47 <luke-jr_> and you probably were like "wtf is that?"
03:47 <GodTodd> bullshit
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> he's a fag
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> what you should write is "1tpdm"
03:48 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: you said it was 1 tpd and i said that theoretically it could be more since turns end when everyone moves and you said 'yes i suppose so'
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6111540.stm
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> Boy George needs to hook up with that preacher
03:51 <ghableska> hahaha
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> kivio or dia
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> I want to make a flowchart of techs
04:00 <GodTodd> heh civ 1 came with one iirc
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> NRG2 2244  MW        3:10pm- 4:50pm OH McGuff, Marcus D  <--- Finally, something seems to be going right
04:00 <GodTodd> civ 2 for playstation did too
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> It's at Northridge in a good timeslot with the teacher I already knew was teaching it
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> may as well put that in my plan while I'm thinking about it
04:01 <GodTodd> that for next semester already?
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> yep
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> and his dad has the diff eq class I *should* take if I take it next semester
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> (I have his dad for calc 3)
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's calc 4, in case you were wondering
04:01 <GodTodd> hmmm i can't reg for mine until around thanksgiving :/
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> can't register yet, but the schedule's up so we can plan
04:02 <GodTodd> i'll have to double check my eschedule then
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> I got an 85 on my calc test earlier this week and I kicked the ass out of the half-test we had today
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> still have to retake part of the first test, but I'm looking good for an A right now.  At least looking good for failing the first test so badly
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> 2 distance learning classes next semester
04:04  * Lucifer_arma digs up the honors program schedule
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok, sent that email.  :)  Hopefully I'll be cleared before it's even time to register.
04:11 <GodTodd> cleared for?
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> 2 honors classes.  You have to be cleared for honors classes
04:18 <GodTodd> ahhh
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> they're both distance learnign classes.  African American Writers and US Campaigns and Elections
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> so this summer it's diff eq and statics
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> looks like I can register starting November 15
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> I better put that on my calendar
04:26 <GodTodd> i can't even see the schedule for winter or spring yet :/
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> ur skool is l4me
04:27 <GodTodd> :P
04:27 <GodTodd> is that the ACC snobbery coming out? ;)
04:27 <GodTodd> heh
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> practicing.  I want to fit in when I get to UT
04:28 <GodTodd> haha
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> KINE 1118  Fencing I
04:29 <Lucifer_arma>  25     [  0/ 25] 47183 Lec 002|11452 NRG  NRG2 2102  F         5:15pm- 7:45pm OH Meister, Kermit W
04:29 <GodTodd> you can fince with kermit?
04:30 <GodTodd> fence*
04:30 <GodTodd> that's just wrong
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> I have to do it
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> I have to take fencing next semester
04:31 <ghableska> o.0
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> even if I don't go to A&M, I still have to take fencing
04:31 <GodTodd> cuz you need a fence?
04:31 <GodTodd> heh
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> alright, I'm adding it to my degree plan
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> that makes 15 credit hours next semester
04:34 <GodTodd> holy crap...dunno if i'm going to go that hight
04:34 <GodTodd> high*
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04:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm hoping the fencing class will help me get in shape and pick up a nice sport
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> at the very least, I can answer the ads in the paper that ask for a swordsman
04:35 <GodTodd> haha
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> and of course neither UT nor A&M offer fencing, so no matter what I can always one-up anyone there :)
04:41 <GodTodd> "needed, one swordsman.  must be willing to swear fealty to a benevolent overlord.  must have experience protecting an obviously weak main member of the party."
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> that out of Glory Road?
04:41 <GodTodd> no
04:41 <GodTodd> outta me
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> I'll bet it's out of Glory Road :P
04:42 <GodTodd> what's glory road?
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> Heinlein book
04:42 <GodTodd> hmmm
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> *crappy Heinlein book
04:42 <GodTodd> never read that one
04:43 <GodTodd> it's mine...but molded kind of out of the magic kingdom of landover
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> which was in turn copied from Glory Road, shame on yoU!
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> (heh)
04:43 <GodTodd> :P
04:44  * Lucifer_arma read Glory Road just so he'd understand half of his mom's literary references but was bored to tears reading it
04:44 <GodTodd> is it worth reading just to read?
04:44 <GodTodd> or not so much?
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was like 14-15, it might be wonderfully entertaining to a 31-yo
04:44 <GodTodd> i'll have to look for it
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05:14 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
05:14 <armabot> pong
05:14 <DrJoeTron> #pong
05:14 <armabot> ping
05:15 <DrJoeTron> check that game out?
05:15 <GodTodd> games suck
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
05:16 <armabot> pong
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> #pong
05:16 <armabot> ping
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> neat game, joe
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> why would mtab be empty?
05:24 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma ?
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> you were talking about armabot's ping pong game, right?
05:24 <DrJoeTron> was talking to Your_mom_arma 
05:25 <DrJoeTron> i sent him a link to a shmup 
05:52 <Your_mom_arma> which i never clicked
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> you never clicked it?!?!?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> have you ever seen a cockasaurus rex wearing a cowboy hat?
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab, going to install mandriva now
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07:39 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
07:39 <armabot> pong
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07:51 <Lucifer_arma> yay, back in Mandriva finally
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08:45 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
08:45 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 37.2°F (1:46 AM CST on November 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa.  Freeze warning in effect until 9 am CST Friday... 
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10:59 <wrtlprnft> weird, my apache died without any log entry…
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> that means segfault :)
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
11:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 43.9°F (4:25 AM CST on November 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa. 
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> brrrr
11:28 <wrtlprnft> apache isn't supposed to segfault
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11:49 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't mean it doesn't.  I've had php scripts cause it to segfault.  :/
11:59 <Lucifer_arma> Even if resveratrol does turn out to be a miracle drug, a wine glass would probably not be the preferred delivery method. According to Kaeberlein, it would take over 300 glasses of wine per day to equal the amount of resveratrol fed to the obese mice in this study.  <-- I can go for that!
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16:38 <spidey> o.O
16:40 <guru3> haha
16:40  * spidey yawns
16:44 <guru3> indeed
16:54 <spidey> man
16:54 <spidey> last night
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16:54 <spidey> i played xbox 360 and drank this nasty ass beer, all day =|
16:55 <guru3> haha
16:55 <spidey> need for speed most wanted is cool
16:55 <guru3> not played it
16:56 <spidey> and my uncle gets hang overs when he drinks, i never have got one...so i get to annoy the piss out of him xD
16:57 <guru3> haha
16:57  * luke-jr_work sits on guru3's head
16:58 <guru3> oy
16:58 <luke-jr_work> hmm?
16:58 <guru3> no fair to sit on my head
16:58 <luke-jr_work> I'm not heavy!
16:58 <guru3> everyone lies about their weight
16:58 <luke-jr_work> ...
16:59 <luke-jr_work> ok, I weigh 2 tons then
16:59 <luke-jr_work> ;p
16:59 <spidey> i wouldn't doubt it
16:59 <spidey> xD
16:59 <guru3> haha
17:00 <luke-jr_work> really, I weigh around 100 lbs
17:01 <guru3> quite light
17:01 <spidey> that's what they all say
17:01 <spidey> =p
17:01 <luke-jr_work> or did before my wife insisted on increasing that
17:01 <guru3> i'm about 165
17:01 <luke-jr_work> she didn't manage to add much IMO, but I haven't been on a scale recently
17:01 <luke-jr_work> >.>
17:01 <guru3> hrhr
17:01 <spidey> your wife sounds hot
17:02 <spidey> to bad i lost your number
17:02 <spidey> =p
17:02 <luke-jr_work> lol
17:02 <luke-jr_work> why's that?
17:02 <spidey> i'd have to start hitting on her =p
17:02 <luke-jr_work> btw, my wife is anything but hot right now unless she turned the heat up at home >.>
17:02 <luke-jr_work> she'd probably hang up on you or smth
17:02 <luke-jr_work> =p
17:03 <spidey> haha
17:03 <spidey> i'm telling her you said that
17:03 <spidey> and emailing her the logs =p
17:03 <guru3> haha
17:03 <luke-jr_work> so?
17:03 <guru3> because everyone believes text logs these days
17:03 <luke-jr_work> she'll probably be like "tell Luke to come home and warm me up" :D
17:03 <spidey> screenshot =p
17:04 <luke-jr_work> screenshots can be fun to design
17:04 <luke-jr_work> :)
17:04 <guru3> trust luke to say that
17:04 <luke-jr_work> lol
17:04 <guru3> you can just picture luke faking stuff like that\
17:04 <spidey> lol
17:04 <luke-jr_work> done it before, will do again
17:04 <guru3> hehe
17:04 <luke-jr_work> except usually they're called mockups ;p
17:05 <guru3> sure they are
17:05 <guru3> ;)
17:05 <luke-jr_work> text would be so boring a screenshot to design
17:05 <luke-jr_work> I'd probably first just inject fake packets on my Freenode connection
17:06 <guru3> haha
17:06 <guru3> takeing the long way around
17:11 <guru3> the more e's you have
17:11 <guru3> the better off you are
17:14  * luke-jr_work creates a neutron bomb that destroys only cheese
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17:15 <nowimproved> does anyone install armagetron on freebsd
17:15 <nowimproved> i need some help if anyone has any idead
17:15 <nowimproved> ideas*
17:15 <guru3> depends on what's not working
17:15 <nowimproved> when doing configure on armagatron i get this error http://pastebin.ca/236046
17:18 <guru3> stupid pastebin isn't loading :/
17:22 <Comsn> nowimproved : sounds like you need sdl to compile armagetron
17:22 <nowimproved> uh i have it though
17:25 <nowimproved> sdl-1.2.11,2
17:25 <[dlh]> What version of the game, nowimproved?
17:26 <nowimproved> newest
17:26 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:26 <luke-jr_work> subversion checkout?
17:26 <luke-jr_work> that
17:26 <luke-jr_work> that's newest
17:26 <nowimproved> armagetronad-
17:26 <[dlh]> There was this bug (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1460300&group_id=110997&atid=657948), but it has been fixed.
17:26 <guru3> sdl11-config
17:26 <guru3> do you have that?
17:26 <guru3> or just sdl-config
17:26 <nowimproved> it is not a command
17:27 <[dlh]> sdl-config isn't?
17:27 <nowimproved> scl-config is a comand
17:27 <guru3> that's the problem then
17:27 <nowimproved> sdl
17:27 <guru3> im guessing sdl-config isn't in your path
17:27 <guru3> and then that's causing the problems
17:27 <luke-jr_work> FreeBSD doesn't have dependencies?
17:27 <[dlh]> …
17:27 <nowimproved> im not installing it through ports
17:28 <nowimproved> ports has an old version
17:28 <guru3> run a find on sdl-config
17:28 <guru3> (or a locate)
17:28 <nowimproved> k
17:28 <guru3> also if you have sdl installed, is it the development version?
17:29 <nowimproved> yes
17:29 <guru3> then sdl-config should be somewhere
17:29 <nowimproved> ya it is 
17:29 <nowimproved> /usr/local/bin/sdl-config
17:29 <nowimproved> /usr/ports/devel/sdl12/work/SDL-1.2.11/sdl-config
17:30 <nowimproved> /usr/ports/devel/sdl12/work/SDL-1.2.11/sdl-config.in
17:30 <guru3> is /usr/local/bin in your path?
17:30 <nowimproved> what do you mean?
17:31 <guru3> your path is the list of directories that your shell scans for binaries when you type in a binary's name
17:31 <guru3> usually you can do echo $PATH
17:31 <guru3> to get the list
17:31 <[dlh]> echo $PATH, and check if /usr/local/bin is in it.
17:32 <nowimproved> /usr/local/bin
17:32 <guru3> shows up in $PATH?
17:32 <nowimproved> ya when i do echo $PATH
17:33 <guru3> do which sdl-config
17:33 <nowimproved> /usr/local/bin/sdl-config
17:33 <guru3> but configure doesn't find it...
17:33 <guru3> odd
17:33 <[dlh]> SDL_CONFIG_DEFAULT=sdl11-config
17:34 <nowimproved> [dlh], what shoud i do with that?
17:34 <[dlh]> And the comment above it → “# FreeBSD, sdl-config is specialized to sdl11-config there”
17:35 <[dlh]> It means we hardcoded a value, and the SDL version number got bumped :(
17:35 <[dlh]> or they changed it back to sdl-config on freebsd.
17:35 <nowimproved> so it cant be compliled
17:35 <guru3> of course it can
17:36 <guru3> in configure.ac
17:36 <[dlh]> you just need to comment out that line, and run autoconf again.
17:36 <guru3> search for SDL_CONFIG
17:36 <guru3> or really
17:36 <guru3> search for sdl11-config
17:36 <guru3> and replace with sdl-config
17:36 <guru3> should be in configure
17:39 <nowimproved> yup i can compile now
17:39 <guru3> great
17:39 <guru3> we should fix that in svn
17:43 <guru3> aka
17:43 <guru3> i'll do it
17:46 <nowimproved> well more errors
17:46 <guru3> D:
17:46 <guru3> commited the fix about sdl-config to svn at least
17:46 <nowimproved> http://pastebin.ca/236079
17:47 <guru3> when you tried to run armagetron?
17:47 <guru3> did you do make install or running it from the source dir?
17:47 <nowimproved> make install
17:47 <guru3> it's not installing correctly
17:47 <guru3> all i can say atm
17:47 <nowimproved> nevermind it is fixed now
17:47 <guru3> ok
17:47 <guru3> and time for me to go to dinner
17:47 <guru3> so bbl
17:48 <nowimproved> my home directory had bad permisions some now
17:48 <nowimproved> how*
17:48 <guru3> if you have any more probs just leave messages
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17:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
17:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i just mounted a partition on /mnt/stuff
17:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> now how can i make it possible for normal users to put stuff in there?
17:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> (at least for one certain user)
17:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm nm
17:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> found  out myself
17:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> damn no
17:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> didnt work -.-
17:56 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:56 <luke-jr_work> what fs?
17:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> reiser
17:57 <luke-jr_work> mkdir /mnt/stuff/foo
17:57 <luke-jr_work> chown user /mnt/stuff/foo
17:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> very elegant solution -.-
17:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but thanks anyway
17:57 <luke-jr_work> copy perms from /tmp
17:58 <[Xpert]DarkStar> chown user /mnt/stuff <<
17:58 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ><
17:59 <luke-jr_work> lol
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18:00 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i guess i mistyped something before...
18:00 <[Xpert]DarkStar> time to move shit over to it...
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19:36 <ghableska> hello
19:43 <guru3> lo
20:00 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
20:00 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 47.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Wind: SSE at 8 mph (13 km/h).
20:05 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
20:06 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 61.2°F (1:07 PM CST on November 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa. 
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21:19 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (11 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (10 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (9 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || °¯ps arena (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 (1 more message)
21:19 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
21:19 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
21:19 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails °¯ps arena
21:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: °¯ps arena: Players (5/16): ~*$PàM*~, ~|DS|~|d35T|~, ~|DS|~|JJBean|~, ~|ÐR|~|Kµ4H|~, °¯AshitakA
21:31 <Comsn> is oops fort or sumo?
21:32 <MaZuffeR> sumo
21:32 <Vanhayes> and not lod type, the normal kind
21:33 <Comsn> ehe :)
21:34 <Vanhayes> I wouldnt have a problem with any of their settings, its only that the zone doesnt dissapear, you have to def untill it shrinks to nothing
21:34 <wrtlprnft> #g 1/sqrt(2)
21:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 / sqrt(2) = 0.707106781
21:36 <Vanhayes> still cant pm armabot wrtlprnft ?
21:37 <ghableska> #g sqrt(-2)
21:37 <armabot> ghableska: sqrt(-2) = 1.41421356 i
21:40 <Vanhayes> #g 15% of 1500
21:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: 15% of 1,500 = 225
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21:53 <Nixda690> hey
21:53 <Nixda690> ey
21:53 <Nixda690> hey
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21:55 <Vanhayes> well...
21:59 <guru3> yeah
22:28 <spidey> lol
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22:51 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails 2020
22:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: 2020 team challenge: No online players.
22:51 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails -v 2020
22:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: 2020 team challenge ( running 0.3.0 unix dedicated, Description: “MON rip TUE tron simulation WED tronic monkey open challenge THU incam night FRI kings of the grid  SAT team-play SUN tournament night 8pm gmt start“, No online players.
23:31 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: turn, turn, turn, turn, turn
23:33 <Vanhayes> ha
23:33 <wrtlprnft> turn turn turn turn tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnn!
23:36 <luke-jr_work> I DID
23:36 <luke-jr_work> =p
23:36 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, TURN
23:36 <luke-jr_work> (so there)
23:38 <Vanhayes> I said put me ai 
23:38 <Vanhayes> So there
23:40 <luke-jr_work> but gave a nearly invalid reason
23:40 <luke-jr_work> so there
23:41 <Vanhayes> I think the reason that it isnt fun is a good one for not wanting to play a game
23:42 <luke-jr_work> it isn't fun because it takes too long ceases to be valid as soon as it doesn't take long
23:42 <luke-jr_work> :)
23:43 <luke-jr_work> qwm suggested next time we take 30 turns the first day
23:43 <Vanhayes> meh, I think ill stivk to one game per day
23:43 <Vanhayes> stick*
23:43 <spidey> heh
23:43  * Your_mom_arma agrees
23:43 <spidey> you can't even play one game in one day
23:43 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:44 <spidey> luci mom and me have been playing the same game for awhile
23:44 <Your_mom_arma> sure you can
23:44 <luke-jr_work> it's not practical for most of us
23:44 <Your_mom_arma> make it take less times to research techs a team of 5 humans vs 1 ai
23:44 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, playing then quitting because you can't stay up isn't 1 whole game =p
23:44 <luke-jr_work> I'm thinking it'd be best to allow more movement per turn
23:44 <spidey> ...
23:44 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma, that's most of my games
23:45 <Your_mom_arma> what about the game where i built the space ship, that was one day
23:45 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: try to make it a RTS
23:45 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, I can go with that
23:45 <spidey> that was uncool
23:45 <luke-jr_work> spidey, uncool was you selling us out to AI
23:45 <Your_mom_arma> i was ready to quit so i figured i may as well
23:45 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:45 <spidey> luke-jr_work, what about that game me and you have saved?
23:45 <spidey> that was uncool
23:45 <spidey> so you can't bitch at me =)
23:46 <luke-jr_work> what game was that?
23:46 <spidey> the one where i was at war with 4 AI's and you was steadily bribing cities
23:46 <spidey> or was it 3
23:46 <Vanhayes> do you know what is cool? turning on your allies, thats pretty cool
23:46 <spidey> hmm
23:46 <Vanhayes> er funny*
23:47 <spidey> i won't turn on a ally unless they're hellbent on destroying everything
23:47 <luke-jr_work> know what's totally uncool?
23:47 <spidey> OR i think they're about to try to invade me
23:47 <luke-jr_work> playing with andrew
23:47 <spidey> fuck him
23:47 <Vanhayes> can you turn onyourself now spidey?
23:47 <spidey> huh?
23:47 <luke-jr_work> I tried a game w/ andrew
23:47 <spidey> so did i
23:48 <luke-jr_work> he offered me an alliance (we were at war) and then went inciting riots in my cities
23:48 <luke-jr_work> so I nuked him
23:48 <spidey> after i started beating him he tried to set himself on experimental AI
23:48 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:48 <Vanhayes> <spidey> i won't turn on a ally unless they're hellbent on destroying everything   I remember when you started nuking luke for fun when he had almost no defense
23:48  * luke-jr_work too :(
23:48 <luke-jr_work> maybe it was a promise about the future
23:48 <spidey> i didn't nuke luke
23:48 <spidey> i nuked todd
23:48 <luke-jr_work> I don't turn on people unless they're easily conquered and pissing me off :)
23:49 <spidey> so i could have a standing ground when i turned on you
23:49 <spidey> because you where going all out
23:49 <spidey> then it would have been me or luci
23:49 <luke-jr_work> hm?
23:49 <spidey> i had 8 cities so i took your capital =p
23:49 <luke-jr_work> note the 'pissing me off' part
23:50 <spidey> luke doesn't like war unless there's someone weaker than him
23:50 <luke-jr_work> you didn't piss me off until you turned on me
23:50 <spidey> then it's ok of course
23:50 <luke-jr_work> it's ok if they piss me off sure
23:50 <spidey> um
23:50 <spidey> that same game
23:50 <spidey> after i took hayes capital
23:50 <spidey> what did i do?
23:50 <spidey> i gave you over half my cities
23:50 <spidey> so shut it =p
23:50 <luke-jr_work> ...?
23:51 <spidey> the world map game
23:51 <luke-jr_work> oh, I wasn't talking about that one
23:51 <spidey> where you keep going backwards and hayes kept pushing you
23:51 <spidey> we was
23:51 <spidey> keep up =p
23:51 <luke-jr_work> =p
23:51 <luke-jr_work> I don't like world map
23:51 <Vanhayes> spidey: um you nuked 3 of his cities then turned on me and gave all your cities too luke
23:51 <spidey> i nuked 3 of todds cities
23:52 <Vanhayes> almost had all of luke's cities
23:52 <spidey> his production cities
23:52 <Vanhayes> anyways, want to play a game?
23:52 <luke-jr_work> maybe
23:52 <spidey> sure
23:52 <luke-jr_work> my wife might veto it
23:53 <Vanhayes> ?me makes whip sound
23:53 <Vanhayes> er
23:53 <spidey> tell her, if she doesn't i'll come over again
23:53 <spidey> =p
23:53  * Vanhayes makes whip sound
23:53 <Vanhayes> there we go
23:53 <luke-jr_work> spidey, you want her to veto it?
23:53 <spidey> no...
23:53 <luke-jr_work> I'll tell her this way she gets me all tomorrow =p
23:53 <spidey> rofl
23:53 <spidey> what's your number?
23:53 <Vanhayes> I dont think threatening her will work
23:54 <luke-jr_work> but! today's payday so I probably wouldn't be able to start till like 7 at earliest
23:54 <spidey> "can luke come out to play....pleeeeeeeeaaaaaase
23:54 <Vanhayes> heh jk
23:54 <spidey> xD
23:54 <luke-jr_work> (913) 674-4395
23:54 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: what time is it there now?
23:54 <Vanhayes> 5?
23:54 <luke-jr_work> 4:55
23:54 <Vanhayes> af ok, 2 hours slower
23:54 <Vanhayes> ah*
23:54 <spidey> it's 6 here
23:54 <spidey> good
23:54 <spidey> i got time for a game of defcon
23:54 <spidey> or warrock
23:54 <spidey> hmm
23:55 <spidey> defcon
23:55 <Vanhayes> any new warrock updates?
23:55 <spidey> yea
23:55 <guru3> setting up my firewall :D
23:55 <spidey> and the weapon they added sucks
23:55 <Vanhayes> what is it?
23:55 <spidey> it's a close range sniper
23:55 <spidey> a styer AUG
23:55 <Vanhayes> ...
23:55 <luke-jr_work> guru3, ...?
23:55 <Vanhayes> that sort of defeats the purpose of a sniper
23:55 <luke-jr_work> guru3, you play civ w/ us?
23:55 <spidey> it's got a x1 scope
23:55 <spidey> it's fully auto
23:56 <spidey> and has a shitty shot at long range
23:56 <Vanhayes> do they have a knife yet?
23:56 <guru3> i guess i can take a break from working on my network setup
23:56 <spidey> you have to be close
23:56 <spidey> no
23:56 <luke-jr_work> guru3, in 2 hrs or so
23:56 <spidey> they do have bonus weapons
23:56 <guru3> mm
23:56 <guru3> maybe
23:56 <spidey> a shotgun
23:56 <Vanhayes> ill play again nwhen they get a knife
23:56 <guru3> that's 1am tho :/
23:56 <luke-jr_work> is it?
23:56 <spidey> what ya gonna do
23:56 <luke-jr_work> hrm
23:56 <spidey> stab someone to deatH?
23:56 <spidey> =p
23:56 <Vanhayes> guru3: what time is it there?
23:56 <guru3> 11pm
23:56 <luke-jr_work> I could be bad and play at work....
23:57 <Vanhayes> heh, dont blame you for not wanting to start at 1 am
23:57 <luke-jr_work> maybe we should just plan on tomorrow ;p
23:57 <luke-jr_work> start bright and early
23:57 <luke-jr_work> or we could play 1 or 2 hrs tonight
23:58 <guru3> hehe
23:59 <spidey> fuck bright and early
23:59 <spidey> =p
23:59 <spidey> i won't be up till atleast 3pm tomorrow
23:59 <luke-jr_work> spidey, I do that
23:59 <spidey> maybe later
23:59 <Vanhayes> ya im not a mornign person
23:59 <guru3> haha

Log from 2006-11-04:
--- Day changed Sat Nov 04 2006
00:00 <guru3> right now i really want to block my computers from picking up an ipv6 address from the radvd that's running on the network
00:00 <luke-jr_work> so do it
00:00 <guru3> ive not no clue what protocol it is
00:01 <luke-jr_work> ipv6-route?
00:01 <luke-jr_work> maybe
00:02 <luke-jr_work> nope
00:03 <guru3> running ethereal on it
00:03 <guru3> maybe i'll get lucky & find it
00:03 <luke-jr_work> 17:03:46.981049 IP6 fe80::2b0:d0ff:fe25:d2d4 > ip6-allnodes: ICMP6, router advertisement, length 88
00:04 <guru3> maybe i should just block all ipv6 traffic in the forward table
00:04 <guru3> (of ip6tables)
00:05 <luke-jr_work> eck
00:05 <luke-jr_work> why?
00:05 <guru3> don't think i'll be doing any ipv6 across the uni lan
00:05 <guru3> as they don't have routing for it
00:06 <luke-jr_work> bug em
00:06 <luke-jr_work> what's his IP?
00:07 <luke-jr_work> the one advertising
00:07 <guru3> only know the link local ipv6...
00:07 <luke-jr_work> yeah
00:07 <luke-jr_work> that
00:09 <luke-jr_work> ip6tables -I INPUT -p icmpv6 --icmpv6-type router-advertisement --source fe80:... -j DROP
00:09 <guru3> what's the diff between -A and -I again?
00:10 <GodTodd> -7
00:10 <luke-jr_work> -I inserts at the top
00:10 <luke-jr_work> -A appends to the bottom
00:10 <guru3> how can you delete a rule that's like in the middle?
00:10 <luke-jr_work> -D
00:10 <guru3> any args?
00:10 <luke-jr_work> the rule
00:10 <luke-jr_work> -F will wipe em all
00:11 <luke-jr_work> BTW, unless your computer is a router itself, FORWARD is never used
00:11 <guru3> ive got a comp between me and the uni network
00:11 <guru3> it's bridging eth0-2
00:11 <guru3> for lan, wifi, and wan
00:11 <guru3> so forward table is used there
00:11 <luke-jr_work> o
00:12 <luke-jr_work> ethX is lame
00:12 <luke-jr_work> I call my network interface 'lan', 'wifi', and 'wan' :)
00:12 <guru3> smart allack ><
00:12 <guru3> im hard core and memorize which is which
00:13 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: do your name your hard drive partitions too?
00:13 <wrtlprnft> *do you rename
00:13 <luke-jr_work> guru3, that might be smart, if it wasn't for the fact that they can change every reboot
00:13 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, no, they don't change ;p
00:14 <guru3> muahahaha that's true
00:14 <wrtlprnft> /dev/old_hd_partition_with_some_unimportant_stuff
00:14 <guru3> but that tends to be nly if i change the hardware
00:14 <luke-jr_work> guru3, or change the kernel
00:14 <wrtlprnft> mine don't change, luckily
00:14 <luke-jr_work> hmm
00:14 <luke-jr_work> I *should* name HDs
00:14 <luke-jr_work> based on serial #
00:14 <luke-jr_work> that way it would detect when I change them around
00:14 <wrtlprnft> yeah
00:15 <guru3> geh
00:15 <luke-jr_work> would only work for the removable ones tho
00:15 <wrtlprnft> because /dev/hd1265023672 is easier to remember than /dev/hada
00:15 <wrtlprnft> because /dev/hd1265023672 is easier to remember than /dev/hda
00:15 <luke-jr_work> no, dummy
00:15 <luke-jr_work> the udev rule has the serial #
00:15 <luke-jr_work> not the device
00:16 <wrtlprnft> ah
00:16 <luke-jr_work> so I plug in old_hd_with_useless_crap, it gets named that
00:16 <luke-jr_work> if I unplug that and put in another HD, I get it named /dev/anime_hd
00:16 <luke-jr_work> =p
00:16 <guru3> looks like that rule works luke
00:16 <guru3> thanks
00:18 <guru3> gonna just try blocking all external ipv6 traffic
00:20 <guru3> ip6tables -A FORWARD -m physdev --physdev-in eht2 --physdev-out eth2 -j DROP
00:20 <guru3> ip6tables -A INPUT -m physdev --physdev-in eht2 --physdev-out eth2 -j DROP
00:20 <guru3> that ought to do it yeah?
00:21 <luke-jr_work> why not
00:21 <guru3> see if radvdump still picks shit up
00:22 <luke-jr_work> ip6tables -t raw -I PREROUTING -j DROP
00:22 <luke-jr_work> more efficient to do it there
00:22 <luke-jr_work> err
00:22 <luke-jr_work> better yet
00:22 <luke-jr_work> ip6tables -t raw -P PREROUTING DROP
00:22 <guru3> except
00:22 <guru3> i still want eth0 and eth1 to be able to ipv6-ify
00:23 <luke-jr_work> ip6tables -t raw -i eth2 -o eth2 -P PREROUTING DROP
00:23 <luke-jr_work> :)
00:23 <guru3> dshite
00:23 <guru3> *shite
00:23 <guru3> i still got a router advertisement
00:24 <luke-jr_work> err
00:24 <luke-jr_work> ip6tables -t raw -i eth2 -P PREROUTING DROP
00:24 <luke-jr_work> crap
00:24 <luke-jr_work> um
00:24 <luke-jr_work> ip6tables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i eth2 DROP
00:24 <luke-jr_work> there
00:24 <luke-jr_work> that should do it
00:25 <guru3> need a -j in there?
00:25 <luke-jr_work> yes
00:25 <luke-jr_work> :)
00:25 <luke-jr_work> (before DROP)
00:25 <guru3> i sort of like the look of ip6tables -t raw -i eth2 -o eth2 PREROUTING DROP
00:25 <guru3> altho i think that needs a -j as well
00:25 <luke-jr_work> that won't work
00:25 <guru3> why?
00:26 <luke-jr_work> 1) it matches packets going BOTH from eth2 and to eth2
00:26 <luke-jr_work> eg, both need to be true
00:26 <luke-jr_work> it's AND nor OR
00:26 <guru3> hmm
00:26 <luke-jr_work> 2) PREROUTING only knows source interface
00:26 <luke-jr_work> it hasn't been routed yet =p
00:26 <guru3> i see
00:26 <luke-jr_work> so no output interface is known
00:26 <guru3> my -m physdev --physdev blah
00:27 <guru3> that one needed to match both didn't it?
00:27 <luke-jr_work> but if there's no assigned IPv6 on eth2, I see no reason there'd be anything outgoing
00:27 <luke-jr_work> physdev is for bridges
00:27 <guru3> it is a bridge...
00:27 <luke-jr_work> erm
00:27 <luke-jr_work> then it should be called br0
00:27 <luke-jr_work> not eth2
00:27 <Your_mom_arma> bridges are for rivers
00:27 <luke-jr_work> o
00:28 <luke-jr_work> I see
00:28 <guru3> ill try the lines i had before but seperating --physdev-in and --physdev-out
00:29 <guru3> but ok, iptables -p udp --dport 67:68 --sport 67:68 -j ACCEPT
00:29 <guru3> (-A FORWARD that is)
00:29 <guru3> that lets any and all udp port 67 or 68 traffic thru
00:29 <guru3> right?
00:30 <luke-jr_work> assuming both dport and sport are 67/68
00:30 <luke-jr_work> which isn't very common
00:30 <luke-jr_work> also assuming there isn't an earlier rule blocking it
00:30 <guru3> so it matches 67 to 67, 67 to 68, 68 to 67, and 68 to 68
00:30 <luke-jr_work> right
00:30 <luke-jr_work> but only root can use those ports
00:31 <luke-jr_work> so it'd be a root-to-root connection
00:31 <guru3> it's dhcpc
00:31 <luke-jr_work> o
00:31 <guru3> -c
00:31 <luke-jr_work> why are you blocking IPv4 traffic? =p
00:31 <guru3> im doing connection tracking
00:31 <luke-jr_work> so?
00:31 <guru3> and blocking unwanted inbound tcp connections from the inet
00:31 <luke-jr_work> that's easy
00:31 <guru3> -m state --state NEW,INVALD -j DROP
00:32 <guru3> but for some reason that rule was catching dhcp requests
00:32 <luke-jr_work> makes sense
00:32 <luke-jr_work> I see
00:32 <guru3> but when you have like 67:68
00:32 <luke-jr_work> um
00:32 <guru3> that's like "port 67 or 68"
00:32 <luke-jr_work> that DROP matches the interface too, right?
00:32 <guru3> yeah
00:32 <guru3> just saving on typing
00:32 <luke-jr_work> heh
00:32 <luke-jr_work> ok
00:33 <guru3> 67:68 = 67 or 68
00:33 <luke-jr_work> 67 to 68 ;p
00:33 <guru3> i thought - was to
00:33 <luke-jr_work> - is invalid
00:33 <guru3> "oh my"
00:34 <guru3> ok
00:34 <guru3> so 22:80 would be 22 to 80
00:34 <guru3> and -m tcp is the same as -p tcp yeah?
00:34 <luke-jr_work> right, and wrong
00:35 <luke-jr_work> -m tcp only loads it, doesn't match it
00:35 <guru3> so -m tcp --protcol tcp = -p tcp
00:35 <luke-jr_work> I think -m tcp would be undefined by itself
00:35 <luke-jr_work> -p tcp implies -m tcp
00:35 <guru3> ok
00:35 <guru3> so then if you have two -ms
00:36 <guru3> like -m tcp (implied by -p tcp) and -m physdev --phy..blah
00:36 <guru3> that has to match both those
00:36 <luke-jr_work> -m loads a module
00:36 <luke-jr_work> it doesn't match anything
00:36 <guru3> ah
00:36 <guru3> everything in a rule has to match
00:36 <luke-jr_work> right
00:36 <guru3> if you have --physdev-in and --dport
00:36 <guru3> both match or nothing happens
00:37 <luke-jr_work> yep
00:37 <guru3> didn't know about that
00:37 <luke-jr_work> note netfilter and iptables support functions
00:37 <luke-jr_work> so you could match --physdev-in and -j to your function
00:37 <luke-jr_work> and then match the rest there
00:37 <guru3> too complicated ><
00:37 <luke-jr_work> nah
00:38 <luke-jr_work> simpler
00:38 <wrtlprnft> does anyone know why mplayer doesn't want to be emerged without the esd USE flag?
00:38 <luke-jr_work> better than repeating --physdev-in lots
00:38 <guru3> next time i level up my iptables knowledge
00:38 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, explain
00:38 <wrtlprnft> i set media-video/mplayer -esd in package.use
00:38 <wrtlprnft> but it still wants to compile with esd
00:39 <wrtlprnft> and esd itself fails to compile
00:39 <luke-jr_work> probably have multiple mplayer elements in package.use
00:39 <luke-jr_work> only one is allowed
00:39 <wrtlprnft> but i don't need esd so i wanna get rid of them all
00:39 <luke-jr_work> why not USE=-esd in make.conf?
00:39 <wrtlprnft> no, package.use has 4 lines
00:39 <luke-jr_work> esd is a global USE flag
00:39 <wrtlprnft> and only one mplayer one
00:39 <wrtlprnft> and i set USE=-esd too
00:39 <luke-jr_work> emerge -vp mplayer
00:39 <wrtlprnft> USE="-gtk -gnome -qt -kde -dvd -alsa -cdr -cups -X unicode nptl nptlonly -arts -esd"
00:40 <wrtlprnft> why isn't there a -allthatdesktopcraf USE flag?
00:40 <wrtlprnft> *allthatdesktopcrap
00:40 <guru3> -*
00:40 <luke-jr_work> USE flags don't support grouping? =p
00:40 <wrtlprnft> x_X
00:41 <luke-jr_work> /exec -o emerge -vp mplayer
00:41 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, switch to Utopios when it's done
00:41 <wrtlprnft> argh, duh, I'm stupid
00:41 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma 
00:41 <luke-jr_work> ?
00:41 <wrtlprnft> i used emerge -uDavt world to see what package was responsible for esound
00:42 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma i've got someone who
00:42 <Your_mom_arma> ping
00:42 <DrJoeTron> 's been dying to hear you shred
00:42 <Your_mom_arma> haha
00:42 <wrtlprnft> forgot to change that to emerge -uDavNt world to make it reconsider mplayer, too
00:42 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:42 <wrtlprnft> thanks, anyways
00:43 <guru3> oh yeah thanks for the iptables help luke
00:43 <guru3> i may have more queries later on
00:43 <wrtlprnft> http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=utopios+linux&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
00:43 <wrtlprnft> ag
00:43 <wrtlprnft> *ah
00:43 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
00:43 <wrtlprnft> the first result concerns you
00:43 <wrtlprnft> not you ghableska 
00:43 <wrtlprnft> hi :P
00:44 <ghableska> hi...
00:44 <ghableska> nice way to say hello :P
00:44 <wrtlprnft> well, i had that line typed when you joined
00:44 <ghableska> hehe
00:46 <guru3> link local ipv6
00:47 <guru3> *site local
00:47 <guru3> is the fec0::/96 range right?
00:47 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, ...?
00:48 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, try without "linux"
00:48 <wrtlprnft> umm, well
00:49 <guru3> fec, fed, fee, fef
00:49 <wrtlprnft> i usually use linux as a keyword for any terms that might describe non- computerrelated things, too
00:49 <luke-jr_work> Utopios is unique ;)
00:49 <luke-jr_work> only use outside of the OS is in reference to Debian in a Slashdot post
00:49 <luke-jr_work> and some guy's name on a foreign forum
00:50 <wrtlprnft> *might*
00:50 <luke-jr_work> heh
00:50 <wrtlprnft> well, anyways, what am i gonna gain from this besides not having an official opera ebuild?
00:50 <wrtlprnft> i don't wanna fork any os
00:50 <luke-jr_work> it's not a fork
00:50 <wrtlprnft> i don't need an easy installer
00:50 <wrtlprnft> * Easily Forkable - Gentoo's structure requires significant effort and infrastructure to fork. With the flexibility of Utopios, anyone should be able to easily maintain their own private forks with simple changes (added/overridden packages, etc). This has many possibilities including the ability to maintain customised versions for individual organizations.
00:51 <DrJoeTron> forks!
00:51 <luke-jr_work> Utopios is easily forkable
00:51 <wrtlprnft> spoons!
00:51 <luke-jr_work> Which means you could easily maintain a fork adding Opera
00:51 <wrtlprnft> knives!
00:51 <wrtlprnft> lobster!
00:51 <DrJoeTron> butter!
00:51 <DrJoeTron> >-;;,ccc3
00:51 <luke-jr_work> Utopios itself will maintain multiple repositories of MMD
00:52 <luke-jr_work> so it would even be easy to exclude Utopios branding just by removing certain MMD repos
00:52 <wrtlprnft> still, it would need me to reboot my server, right?
00:52 <guru3> fec0::/10
00:52 <guru3> that's the site local range
00:52 <guru3> right?
00:52 <luke-jr_work> hmm?
00:52 <luke-jr_work> theoretically, a Gentoo migration script would be possible ;p
00:52 <wrtlprnft> grr
00:52 <luke-jr_work> since Utopios's package manager is capable of handling Gentoo ebuilds
00:52 <wrtlprnft> now on my other machine kdejava isn't compiling
00:53 <wrtlprnft> /bin/sh: line 2: -d: command not found
00:53 <luke-jr_work> (as well as native Perl packages from CPAN, etc)
00:53 <wrtlprnft> i still don't see the big gain for me
00:53 <luke-jr_work> so, don't want Utopios branding, you could either BRANDING -= Utopios *or* guarantee a full removal by removing the utopios-branding repository
00:54 <luke-jr_work> well, there'd be featuresets
00:54 <luke-jr_work> so you could do FEATURES -= desktop
00:54 <wrtlprnft> well, but i do want some desktop apps
00:54 <luke-jr_work> so install those
00:54 <wrtlprnft> i do want gvim on it for ssh
00:54 <wrtlprnft> i do want mplayer for sound
00:55 <luke-jr_work> so install gvim/mplayer
00:55 <wrtlprnft> but then, what good is the preset?
00:55 <luke-jr_work> { NAME=="mplayer"; FEATURES+="alsa"; }
00:55 <luke-jr_work> it would work like automatically turning off USE flags
00:56 <wrtlprnft> i don't want alsa nor esd nor jack nor whatever they called
00:56 <wrtlprnft> i don't get their use
00:56 <luke-jr_work> how will mplayer play sound?
00:56 <wrtlprnft> argh
00:56 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:56 <wrtlprnft> sorry, mixed up alsa and arts
00:56 <luke-jr_work> ah!
00:57 <wrtlprnft> arts being what i don't want at all
00:57 <luke-jr_work> arts is evil crap that must die :)
00:57 <wrtlprnft> root@laptop 137 # eselect -h                                                      /home/mathias
00:57 <wrtlprnft> !!! Error: Can't load module -h
00:57 <wrtlprnft> zsh: killed     eselect -h
00:57 <spidey> luke-jr_work, is just crap that must die
00:57 <wrtlprnft> don't all gentoo programs offer nice help screens?
00:57 <luke-jr_work> the MMD and raw package configuration is a format that's based on SQL loosely
00:58 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, --help maybe
00:58 <wrtlprnft> nope, that neither
00:58 <wrtlprnft> using man now
00:58 <luke-jr_work> man
00:58 <luke-jr_work> :)
00:58 <luke-jr_work> based on writing MMD for Psi, I think the format needs some kind of macros ;p
00:58 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: it would have been “eselect help” btw
00:58 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:58 <wrtlprnft> nice to know *after* reading the man page
00:59 <luke-jr_work> { FEATURES[] == "PGP"; RDEPEND += ( {{ NAME="gnupg"; }}; ); }
01:00 <luke-jr_work> part of the psi package
01:00 <wrtlprnft> i'd rather like to have pgp support for opera
01:00 <wrtlprnft> but apparently they're working on it
01:00 <luke-jr_work> really?
01:00 <luke-jr_work> for web stuff?
01:01 <luke-jr_work> that would make Opera so tempting...
01:01 <wrtlprnft> no, for email of course
01:02 <wrtlprnft> for web stuff you have https and logins if you need it
01:02 <wrtlprnft> emails are inherently insecure
01:03 <[Xpert]DarkStar> night all
01:03 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i'm off to sleep
01:03 <[Xpert]DarkStar> cu
01:04 <wrtlprnft> btw i think trying not to bother a user with technical software details, but then bothering him/her with legal bs is kind of counterproductive
01:04 <luke-jr_work> https and logins don't protect the user from a bad site
01:05 <luke-jr_work> you need to trust the site you're logging into
01:05 <wrtlprnft> umm, there's ssl certificates
01:05 <luke-jr_work> SSL certs only guarantee the remote site is who they claim to be
01:05 <luke-jr_work> and then, not even all the time
01:05 <wrtlprnft> you need to initially trust the pgp key owner too
01:05 <luke-jr_work> not if you own the key
01:05 <luke-jr_work> and it's being used to ID you
01:06 <luke-jr_work> I'm thinking for logins
01:06 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: but if you know the cerificate once you can be sure it's the same guy in the future
01:06 <luke-jr_work> the website gives <input type="pgp-check" value="some random code"/>
01:06 <luke-jr_work> and the user's browser lets them sign it with their key
01:06 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, same guy sure, but what if I don't trust that guy with my login info>
01:06 <luke-jr_work> ?
01:06 <ghableska> #weather 50265]
01:06 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
01:06 <wrtlprnft> just make another login?
01:06 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:07 <wrtlprnft> another set of password/username
01:07 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (5:54 PM CST on November 03, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa. 
01:07 <luke-jr_work> the login needs to work across multiple websites
01:07 <luke-jr_work> including ones I do trust
01:07 <luke-jr_work> and ones I don't
01:07 <wrtlprnft> you know there's stuff like msn passport and crap like that?
01:07 <wrtlprnft> that's basically doing the same
01:07 <luke-jr_work> that's no more secure
01:07 <wrtlprnft> not that i like it
01:07 <luke-jr_work> MSN Passport is easily spoofed
01:07 <luke-jr_work> the other crap just offloads the authentication to email
01:08 <luke-jr_work> keys in the browser are the only real solution
01:08 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i do see the use of it, but it's very hypothetical
01:08 <guru3> what package in gentoo has the /etc/init.d/net.lo script?
01:08 <luke-jr_work> baselayout I bet
01:08 <wrtlprnft> it would require some well-known browser to adapt it to be used
01:08 <wrtlprnft> baselayout, yes
01:08 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, or plugins for such
01:08 <wrtlprnft> can't rely on plugins, really
01:08 <Vanhayes> #armaconfig respawn
01:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: Sorry, no matches :S
01:09 <wrtlprnft> i don't have the RESPAWN_HACK enabled
01:09 <Vanhayes> ah, ok
01:09 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, no?
01:09 <guru3> thnx\
01:09 <luke-jr_work> a lot harder to spoof
01:10 <luke-jr_work> Mozilla's PGP mail support is via plugins
01:10 <wrtlprnft> but it's mail. checking a key is some additional check you can skip if you like
01:11 <wrtlprnft> and you can only send encrypted mails if you know the other guy's public key, so you know he has PGP
01:11 <luke-jr_work> you assume it's verified only on the server
01:11 <luke-jr_work> take a forum for example
01:11 <luke-jr_work> you sign each post
01:11 <luke-jr_work> the post includes a hidden element with the signature
01:11 <luke-jr_work> the reader's browser verifies it
01:11 <wrtlprnft> why not just include the key in the post
01:11 <wrtlprnft> ?
01:11 <luke-jr_work> the server could be untrusted
01:11 <luke-jr_work> to hide it from browsers w/o support
01:11 <wrtlprnft> just run the post's content through pgp to sign it
01:12 <luke-jr_work> not easy enough for regular users
01:12 <wrtlprnft> of course you wouldn't give the server your private key
01:12 <luke-jr_work> the site I use for gold uses manual PGP authentication
01:12 <luke-jr_work> I need to go home....
01:12 <wrtlprnft> anyways, write a ff extension to do that and shut up about it
01:12 <wrtlprnft> cya
01:12 <wrtlprnft> i need to go to bed
01:12 <wrtlprnft> #night
01:12 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
01:12 <Your_mom_arma> cya?
01:13 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, maybe if I cared for FF
01:13 <ghableska> cya wrtlprnft
01:13  * wrtlprnft doesn't care for it
01:13 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, does Opera support plugins?
01:13 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: plugins yes, extensions no
01:13 <luke-jr_work> the diff?
01:14 <wrtlprnft> they do have some reasoning for not supporting extensions
01:14 <luke-jr_work> the difference being?
01:14 <wrtlprnft> plugins = acrobat reader, flash, mplayer, stuff like that
01:14 <luke-jr_work> so... <objects> only
01:14 <wrtlprnft> extension = something that has acess to the chrome and everything
01:14 <luke-jr_work> oh
01:14 <wrtlprnft> *access
01:15 <wrtlprnft> plugins can only read the content they're associated with and only display in that area
01:15 <luke-jr_work> well, if I make up a design plan, would you be willing to look into Opera support?
01:15 <wrtlprnft> well, it would be impossible pretty much
01:15 <luke-jr_work> maybe, maybe not
01:15 <luke-jr_work> bbiab
01:15 <wrtlprnft> you *could* hack the spellchecker
01:15 <luke-jr_work> lol
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01:15 <wrtlprnft> it uses aspell
01:16 <wrtlprnft> so you could change that to really add a pgp signature
01:17 <Your_mom_arma> who broke lucifers internet?
01:20 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/wikiconnect.png ← note the time at the bottom
01:20 <wrtlprnft> though that's a result of previous connection attempts, it would probably fix itself if i just restarted opera
01:21 <wrtlprnft> anyways, now i'll really go to bed
01:23 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma: I did, I was jealous of its supiority
01:23 <Your_mom_arma> makes sence to me
01:23 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: pretty
01:24 <Your_mom_arma> luci isnt in irc so his internet connections probobly acting up
01:27 <DrJoeTron> that kid is weird
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> hey i get on teamspeak with a voice changer because im 14
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> really? i couldnt tell
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> i need a louder amp
01:29 <DrJoeTron> haha
01:30 <guru3> afk
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01:45 <Vanhayes> #ping
01:45 <armabot> pong
01:45 <ghableska> #pong
01:45 <armabot> ping
01:46 <ghableska> http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=10299 <-- ouch
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02:01 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_: ping
02:03 <manta> pong
02:03 <manta> 2 minutes, not bad :)
02:04 <spidey> lol
02:13 <spidey> i just realized something
02:13 <spidey> they fucked up my billing thingy for the soldat server
02:13 <spidey> Amount: $0.00 Total Paid: $0.00 Total Due: $0.00
02:14 <spidey> #cnn 38256
02:14 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 43.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Wind: ESE at 2 mph (3 km/h).
02:14 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
02:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 40 percent chance of rain showers or wet flurries early this evening. Fog patches overnight. Wind northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40 becoming light this evening. Low minus 5.; Saturday - Sunny. Wind becoming west 20 km/h (1 more message)
02:14 <Vanhayes> snowed here today
02:14 <Vanhayes> first snow of the year
02:20 <ghableska> how much snow?
02:21 <Vanhayes> about 5 minutes of light flurries worth :)
02:21 <Vanhayes> none stayed on the ground but its nice to see it
02:21 <ghableska> haha
02:22 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:22 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 44.6°F (6:54 PM CST on November 03, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa. 
02:22 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
02:22 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 47.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Wind: SE at 10 mph (16 km/h).
02:22 <ghableska> I never know which one to believe :P
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02:23 <Lucifer_arma> can anybody hit the wiki?
02:23 <guru3> all my comps are coming up with proper ip configs now at last
02:23 <ghableska> works fine for me
02:23 <ghableska> there are ads now?
02:24 <guru3> wiki loads
02:24 <guru3> i just wish the adds were about 150 pixels thinner
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> the choice is a large ad or a small ad, there aren't really medium ad choices :/
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> we need to not change them often in order to collect good data, though.  So maybe this time next week try a different size
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> then a week or so later, try adding a smaller ad to the bottom, that sort of thing
02:30 <Vanhayes> what are you trying to do?
02:30 <spidey> #g 2006 - 1956
02:30 <armabot> spidey: 2,006 - 1,956 = 50
02:30 <spidey> tom hanks is old o.O
02:30 <Vanhayes> my dads older
02:30 <Your_mom_arma> is it based on wiki hits or people who actually follow the link?
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: determine if having ads on the wiki will actually be helpful to us
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> clicks, you have to click the ad for it to make any money
02:31 <spidey> you know you can fake those..
02:31 <spidey> cycle proxies
02:31 <Your_mom_arma> should i go click a bunch?
02:31 <spidey> xD
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> no, you shouldn't :)
02:31 <ghableska> *click*
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> we need accurate numbers, not artificially inflated numbers
02:31 <Your_mom_arma> ok
02:31 <manta> what about all the people who programed their gateway boxes to filter out adds?
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> if the numbers look good and we keep ads, then yeah, you should go click a bunch :)
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> manta: doesn't matter to me.  People can avoid looking at them any way they want, I want to see what a realistic income from the wiki would look like,
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> and if it's high enough (I still need to quantify "high enough"), then I can justify putting money up front to put into real hardware for it
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> and then we'll be able to do regular upgrades, updates, and maintenance stuff that I"m currently footing the bill for on my own (which means there haven't been any)
02:34 <manta> well it certainly would be a good thing
02:34 <manta> we all know how hard you work
02:35 <Vanhayes> I don't
02:35 <Vanhayes> then again im pretty unobservant
02:35 <Vanhayes> hmm
02:35 <Vanhayes> #check unobservent
02:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: No spelling suggestion made.  This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for Google to figure out.
02:36 <Vanhayes> Is unobservant a word, or did I make it up?
02:36 <spidey> #dict unobservant
02:36 <Your_mom_arma>  #dict
02:36 <armabot> spidey: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Unobservant \Unobservant\ See {observant}; wn: unobservant adj 1: not consciously observing; "looked through him with blank unseeing eyes" [syn: {unseeing}] 2: not paying attention [syn: {inattentive}, {unvigilant}, {unwatchful}]; moby-thes: 34 Moby Thesaurus words for "unobservant": careless, disregardant, disregardful, distracted, distrait, heedless, (1 more message)
02:36 <spidey> #dict unobservent
02:36 <armabot> spidey: No definition for "unobservent" could be found.
02:36 <spidey> =p
02:36 <Vanhayes> #check unobservant
02:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: No spelling suggestion made.  This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for Google to figure out.
02:37 <manta> unobservant
02:37 <manta> adj 1: not consciously observing; "looked through him with blank unseeing eyes" [syn: unseeing] 2: not paying attention [syn: inattentive, unvigilant, unwatchful]
02:37 <Vanhayes> Well thats good to know, I sometimes make words up that sound right to me but dont look right
02:38 <Vanhayes> #dict Impostering
02:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "Impostering" could be found.
02:38 <Vanhayes> ya...
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02:38 <complexity> how can i get someones user id if they are using unicode in there name?
02:38 <DrJoeTron>  hi.
02:39 <Your_mom_arma> #lastseen complexity
02:39 <DrJoeTron> did you ever think of typing /players
02:39 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: timed out
02:39 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen Dr Joe Tron
02:39 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Dr Joe Tron has last been seen on The Lobster Cage 0 days 1 hours 6 minutes ago.
02:39 <ghableska> #lastseen ghableska
02:39 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska has last been seen on 2020 team challenge 57 minutes ago.
02:40 <Vanhayes> #lastseen lastseen
02:40 <Vanhayes> time out
02:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: timed out
02:40 <manta> #lastseen manta
02:40 <armabot> manta: (WS)Manta has last been seen on 2020 team challenge 49 minutes ago.
02:40 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen vangaynus
02:40 <Vanhayes> lol
02:40 <armabot> DrJoeTron: timed out
02:40 <DrJoeTron> :D
02:42 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
02:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: ~"XzL.Clan The Server (9 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (8 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (4 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (3 players) || The Lobster Cage (3 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's (1 more message)
02:43 <ghableska> #lastseen vangaynus
02:43 <armabot> ghableska: vangaynus seems to be on icemans network nuke zone - www.icemans.net right now.
02:43 <guru3> off to bed
02:43 <guru3> good night
02:44 <ghableska> cya
02:44 <Vanhayes> night
02:46 <DrJoeTron> hagha
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02:48 <DrJoeTron> you're welcome complexity
02:50 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma
02:50 <DrJoeTron> what do you use for camera settings
02:50 <DrJoeTron> i remember you telling me it but i dont remember it
02:50 <DrJoeTron> because im sick of the 2.8.2 camera
02:50 <Your_mom_arma> its on the wiki somewhere
02:50 <DrJoeTron> heh ok
02:57 <ghableska> #google vangaynus
02:57 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.08 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Has my attitude improved?: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=96991>
02:57 <Vanhayes> Ha
02:57 <Vanhayes> I remember that
02:59 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_: ping
03:16 <DrJoeTron> majination sure dissapeared
03:19 <Your_mom_arma> well yeah?
03:20 <DrJoeTron> :/
03:20 <DrJoeTron> ok so im stating the obvious
03:21 <DrJoeTron> what else is new
03:21 <Your_mom_arma> well i wasnt sure if that was some kind of sarcasm saying he hadnt really
03:22 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkDI_spL0HQ what the christ, its dolphin boy
03:26 <ghableska> interesting
03:27 <Your_mom_arma> cool
03:52 <DrJoeTron> man i wanna get sam & max
03:52 <luke-jr_> ...
03:52 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: 
03:57 <spidey> STFU
03:57 <spidey> -caps
03:57 <ghableska> O_o
03:57 <spidey> DrJoeTron, defcon? =p
03:57 <spidey> stfu was at luke-jr_ 
03:57 <spidey> =p
04:11 <luke-jr_> stfu spidey 
04:11 <spidey> you stfu
04:11  * ghableska yawns
04:11 <spidey> to lazy to even spell it out
04:11 <spidey> xD
04:12 <luke-jr_> stfu spidey 
04:12 <spidey> die
04:12 <luke-jr_> stfu spidey 
04:12 <spidey> /ignore luke-jr_ 
04:12 <luke-jr_> stfu spidey 
04:12 <ghableska> now now, children... :P
04:13 <luke-jr_> stfu spidey 
04:14 <spidey>  *!*@CPE-24-31-245-218.kc.res.rr.com added to ignore list.
04:14 <spidey> perfect
04:14  * luke-jr_ reconnects w/ diff IP
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04:16 <spidey> gay
04:16 <spidey> i can ignore that mask to =p
04:16 <luke-jr__> lol
04:17  * luke-jr__ /ignores only spidey's /notices
04:17 <spidey> rofl!!
04:17 <spidey> =(
04:17 <spidey> would be if you where in a game
04:18 <spidey> xD
04:18 <luke-jr__> nah
04:18 <spidey> lol
04:18 <luke-jr__> all it does is show a - instead of <>
04:18 <luke-jr__> big deal
04:18 <spidey> no bubbles?
04:18 <spidey> =(
04:18 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:18 <luke-jr__> lol
04:18 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (8:54 PM CST on November 03, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa. 
04:18 <luke-jr__> baka
04:18 <luke-jr__> it's just /notice
04:18 <spidey> mine shows a >< instead of a -
04:18 <luke-jr__> ...
04:19 <luke-jr__> anyhow
04:19 <spidey> >luke-jr__< i bet this is annoying
04:19 <luke-jr__> that's a send
04:19 <luke-jr__> dummy
04:19 <luke-jr__> anyhow
04:19 <luke-jr__> my wife vetoed tonight's civ
04:19 <luke-jr__> prolly tomorrow's too :|
04:19 <luke-jr__> so anyway
04:19 <luke-jr__> time to go take her to bed :D
04:19 <luke-jr__> 'night
04:21 <ghableska> cya
04:21  * spidey drop kicks ghableska 
04:23 <ghableska> er, no?
04:27 <spidey> er,yes
04:27 <GodTodd> hrmm...the day my wife tells me when to go to bed i'll officially give up my balls and my rights to call myself a man
04:27 <spidey> he's whipped
04:27 <spidey> remember...push over
04:27 <spidey> =p
04:28 <GodTodd> heh...you *assume* i was talking about someone specific....could be just a general statement ;)
04:29 <spidey> we know you was talking about luke-jr__ =p
04:29 <GodTodd> on my lawyer's advice i will neither confirm nor deny that observation
04:29 <spidey> lol
04:35 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: spidey: civ?
04:38 <spidey> after the night i had last night
04:38 <spidey> i'll be lucky to stay awake 1 more hour
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> spidey asked to wait until saturday
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> when my wife orders me to bed I expect sex
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> if I don't get it, I get back up
05:01 <GodTodd> haha
05:01 <GodTodd> same here
05:10 <ghableska> #night
05:10 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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05:15 <Fonkay> hello crazys
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05:18 <Vanhayes> well if we are all crazy wouldnt that make crazy the norm, thus making you the crazy one?
05:19 <Vanhayes> plus its crazies :)
05:20 <Your_mom_arma> that logic doesnt make anysence, she would be an outcast if we where all crazy and she where sain
05:22 <Vanhayes> well if Im crazy then my logic doesnt really have to make ense
05:23 <Your_mom_arma> i guess thats true
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05:23 <Vanhayes> man, they had a sweet deal down at the bar tonight, a bucket of beer for 8 bucks untill midnight
05:24 <Vanhayes> it was draft but I mean for 8 bucks it was worth it
05:26 <Fonkay> crazies isn't actually a word is it? and if it isn't, then i can spell it any way i like
05:27 <Vanhayes> well I could be making it up, it happens sometimes
05:28 <Vanhayes> #dict Crazies
05:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "Crazies" could be found.
05:28 <Vanhayes> guess I made it up
05:28 <Vanhayes> #dict Crazys
05:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "Crazys" could be found.
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06:11 <Your_mom_arma> did inv kick you fonk?
06:24 <DrJoeTron> uh
06:24 <DrJoeTron> how are you able to talk more than 2letters
06:26 <Your_mom_arma> i could only say 4 letters not enough to fix it
06:26 <Your_mom_arma> sorry
06:27 <Your_mom_arma> who did it?
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06:35 <DrJoeTron> probably invader did
06:36 <Your_mom_arma> that wasnt cool
06:41 <DrJoeTron> yeah it wasnt
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06:49 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/income-guide/adsense-tips.html
06:49 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/income-guide/
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21:19 <Vanhayes> #ping
21:19 <armabot> pong
21:20 <guru3> gnip
21:21 <wrtlprnft> gnip?
21:21 <guru3> ping backwards
21:21 <wrtlprnft> duh
21:21 <guru3> :>
21:21 <guru3> someone's supposed to say gnop
21:21 <wrtlprnft> gnop
21:21 <wrtlprnft> :P
21:22 <guru3> :ED
21:22 <guru3> -E
21:23  * wrtlprnft doesn't think the smiley with the E looks like something nice
21:23 <guru3> haha yeah
21:23 <guru3> typo\
21:23 <guru3> trying to press shift and d
21:23 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
21:23 <guru3> without cantilevering my keyboard off the desk
21:23 <wrtlprnft> grrrr
21:24 <wrtlprnft> always right after i start opera and reload the forums the index page appears with all the unread forums marked
21:24 <wrtlprnft> then a second later it reloads and everything's marked red
21:25 <guru3> :/
21:25 <wrtlprnft> *read, of course
21:26 <guru3> maybe make it so that you can manually set the last time you logged into the forums
21:27 <wrtlprnft> would be an idea
22:07 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: check your non-backlogs
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23:03 <wrtlprnft> duh
23:03 <wrtlprnft> don't press ctrl-s in irssi in a screen and then wonder why noone's writing anything in any channel
23:05 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr_: what am i supposed to see there? I was offline for the better part of today.
23:05 <wrtlprnft> and i didn't miss a turn, i think
23:10 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: you seem to like advertising for me, and besides I'm almost going out of biz
23:10 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: so if someone you refer to me buys hosting, I'll send you $2 =p
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> why going out of business?
23:11 <Luke-Jr_> just email/CC me whenever you post/email someone about it ;p
23:11  * Lucifer_arma notes that the right plunger makes the difference between a flowing toilet and a bathroom covered in shit
23:11 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: not enough business?
23:12 <Luke-Jr_> only hosting 2 people now, 1 of which is considering closing their server
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr_: it takes a minimum of 1 year to get established.  i.e. most businesses fail in the first year.  Can't expect to become profitable until pretty much the 7th quarter
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> so if you give up now, it's either you didn't have enough cash or you didn't give it enough time
23:12 <Luke-Jr_> for a month-to-month service, 0 customers = out of business more or less....
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> that's why it's called capitalism.  You need capital to start a business.  :)
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> you need enough money to operate continuously for 2 years without any revenue at all
23:13 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: does DEDICATED_FPS really matter (you say so on the wiki)?
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> where it comes from doesn't matter.  If it's a big pile you start with, or if you get regular cash payments from somewhere or something
23:13 <Luke-Jr_> what's to operate w/o a customer, when you just provide service?
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> it makes a difference in CPU load
23:14 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: I mean for latency
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr_: that's assuming worst case you get no customers
23:14 <Luke-Jr_> the NEWS file says it's irrelevant now
23:14 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: w/o customers, there's no business when it's just hosting...
23:14 <Luke-Jr_> there's no expenses or anything to run
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, for latency it's a collateral effect.  If you have too many clients for your CPU to handle, sometimes decreasing DEDICATED_FPS makes a difference
23:14 <Luke-Jr_> hm
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr_: then you should stay with it for a lot longer.  If you can afford to operate without customers, then you should keep going for at least another 7-9 months and keep doing what you're doing
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> you see, a business doesn't survive on the customers it makes today.  It survives ont he customers it made *yesterday*.  By establishing relationships with them and so forth.
23:15 <Luke-Jr_> ...
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> so you have to be in business long enough to establish enough of those relationships.  Your growth comes from your repeat customers.
23:16 <Luke-Jr_> there's *nothing to operate*
23:16 <Luke-Jr_> without customers
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> how long have you been operating so far?
23:16 <Luke-Jr_> between 3 and 4 months
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> can you afford to operate for 9-12 more months?
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> without any customers?
23:17 <Luke-Jr_> there's nothing to operate...
23:17 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr_: i'm not actually trying to advertise you
23:17 <spidey> lol
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> so you don't pay any money if you don't have any customers?
23:17 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: well, you refer ppl to me =p
23:17 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: not if I cancel my server rentals
23:17 <wrtlprnft> i just want to have them stop asking stupid questions about how to set up a winXP box to host an arma server
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> then you don't have any business to offer anybody...
23:17 <spidey> wrtlprnft, eh?
23:17 <spidey> it's simple
23:17 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: so why not make $2 doing it? :p
23:17 <spidey> click the .exe
23:17 <spidey> der
23:18 <spidey> xD
23:18 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: sure I do
23:18 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: I can rent a new box within a day
23:18 <Luke-Jr_> spidey: they don't want to leave their box turned on 24/7
23:18 <spidey> mine has been on 24/7 for the last 4 years
23:18 <spidey> except for 3-4hours here and there
23:18 <Luke-Jr_> they don't want to =p
23:18 <spidey> repares, moving, etc
23:18 <spidey> repairs to
23:18 <Luke-Jr_> but they definately want their arma game to be on 24/7
23:19 <Luke-Jr_> I found that funny ;p
23:19 <spidey> ....
23:19 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr_: trouble is, for $32/month you can almost get a full-blown Hetzner server w/ an amd64, unlimited traffic and a gigabit connection
23:19 <Luke-Jr_> they want to host their own 24/7 arma server, but don't know how and don't want their computer on 24/7
23:19 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: where?
23:19 <wrtlprnft> http://www.hetzner.de/rootserver.html
23:19 <wrtlprnft> that's a root server
23:20 <Luke-Jr_> which is?
23:20 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr_: http://www.hetzner.de/rootserver_en.html
23:20 <wrtlprnft> that might be better :P
23:20 <spidey> #g 29 euros in USD
23:20 <armabot> spidey: 29 Euros = 36.9953 U.S. dollars
23:20 <spidey> not bad
23:20 <Luke-Jr_> #g 49 euros in USD
23:20 <armabot> Luke-Jr_: 49 Euros = 62.5093 U.S. dollars
23:20 <Luke-Jr_> 49 euro is the cheapest on that page =p
23:20 <Luke-Jr_> o
23:20 <wrtlprnft> and they have an excellent connection
23:20 <Luke-Jr_> eww, high setup fee
23:21 <wrtlprnft> setup fee doesn't matter, at least to me
23:21 <spidey> Monatlicher Grundpreis
23:21 <spidey> what's that mean?
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, actually, if you've got 1 loyal customer in 3-4 months, for your business, that's actually good
23:21 <wrtlprnft> i'm actually thinking about getting one of those
23:21 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: but it's non-managed
23:21 <wrtlprnft> spidey: use the second link
23:21 <spidey> oh
23:21 <Luke-Jr_> lol
23:22 <spidey> for $36
23:22 <spidey> that isn't bad
23:22 <wrtlprnft> i like the second one there for 39€
23:22 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr_: how much money were you expecting from server hosting?
23:22 <wrtlprnft> 1gBit connection, and I know their hosting is excellent
23:22 <Luke-Jr_> Vanhayes: not much
23:22 <spidey> hmm
23:22 <spidey> i'll have to look into that later :D
23:22 <spidey> #g 39 EUROS in USD
23:22 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:22 <spidey> ...
23:23 <wrtlprnft> CTWF is hosted on a server by that company, the one that's one notch weaker than the lowest one on that list
23:23 <spidey> #g 39 euros in USD
23:23 <armabot> spidey: 39 Euros = 49.7523 U.S. dollars
23:23 <spidey> not bad at all
23:23 <spidey> concidering i'm paying $50 for what i got now xD
23:23 <spidey> well...really $30 the rest has been donations o.O
23:23 <Luke-Jr_> the catch w/ those servers are bandwidth
23:23 <wrtlprnft> spidey: what have you got?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr_: 1 GBit is enough, really
23:24 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: 200 GB/mo isn't
23:24 <Luke-Jr_> not for more than a few arma servers
23:24 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr_: talking about the second one
23:24 <wrtlprnft> the DS 3000
23:24 <Luke-Jr_> ah
23:24 <wrtlprnft> unlimited
23:24 <wrtlprnft> just need to click a button after you hit TB
23:24 <Luke-Jr_> well, before I could afford that, I'd need at least a few more Europe customers
23:24 <wrtlprnft> *hit 1TB
23:24 <Luke-Jr_> especially if I were to drop prices
23:25 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr_: we could share a server?
23:25 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: we who?
23:25 <Luke-Jr_> maybe
23:25 <wrtlprnft> I'd host some ct server on there and other crap
23:25 <Luke-Jr_> you're CT now?
23:25 <wrtlprnft> there isn't any bandwidth to worry about
23:25 <wrtlprnft> no, not in the clan
23:25 <Luke-Jr_> sounds good
23:25 <wrtlprnft> but admin on the servers
23:25 <Luke-Jr_> I'll bbiab tho
23:25 <wrtlprnft> ok
23:25 <Luke-Jr_> see who else might be interested
23:25 <Luke-Jr_> maybe
23:26 <Luke-Jr_> the setup fee is annoying tho
23:26 <wrtlprnft> well, they don't want you to get the server and quit after a month
23:26 <wrtlprnft> i like that more than being bound to some contract for 12 months or so
23:26 <wrtlprnft> that exists as well
23:27 <Luke-Jr_> my US host is month-by-month w/o a setup fee =p
23:27 <Luke-Jr_> and all the plans are unmetered
23:27 <Luke-Jr_> but, bbiab
23:27 <Luke-Jr_> :)
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, the perceived quality isn't terribly good right now
23:27 <wrtlprnft> anyways, the CT server is hosted there, so you can be sure that the quality is OK
23:28 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: seems fine for me, and the customer hosted on it
23:28 <wrtlprnft> and they do have a manual on how to install gentoo on their machines
23:28 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: I never get good pings at CT =p
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> the pings are good, but there are pretty nasty lag slides
23:28 <Luke-Jr_> I use Debian for my hosting ATM
23:28 <Luke-Jr_> BBIAB!!
23:28 <Luke-Jr_> :p
23:28 <wrtlprnft> yeah, go!
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> when I'm playing in one that you're hosting (either as an ad or whathaveyou), people there complain about the lag slides
23:28 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: not bad at all for me, and hasn't been too bad from canada
23:28 <Vanhayes> Ct ping is good for me its the fps, but thats probly the size of the maps
23:29 <wrtlprnft> well, they aren't square maps
23:29 <spidey> wrtlprnft, win2k vps
23:29 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:29 <spidey> 10gigs space, 50gb bandwith
23:29 <Vanhayes> ya, that one chico hourglass is the worst for fps
23:29 <spidey> that's $25
23:29 <spidey> then webhosting with ssh for whatever i want
23:29 <spidey> $9
23:30 <spidey> then the soldat server $14.99
23:30 <wrtlprnft> 50gb bandwidth = nothing
23:30 <wrtlprnft> not for an arma server, anyways
23:30 <spidey> it hosts the website and a soldatserver
23:30 <wrtlprnft> ctwf is consuming some 7GB a day
23:31  * spidey doesn't do armahosting
23:31 <spidey> =p
23:31 <spidey> that's Luke-Jr_ 's thing
23:31 <spidey> i'ma be doing webhosting whenever i get unlazy
23:31 <Vanhayes> well hes trying to make it his thing
23:31 <spidey> lol
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> no, he's trying to give up
23:31 <wrtlprnft> no, can't be 7GB/month
23:32 <Vanhayes> right, he was trying to make it his thing yesturday
23:32 <wrtlprnft> but close to 100GB/month
23:32 <Vanhayes> #g 100/ 28
23:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: 100 / 28 = 3.57142857
23:32 <wrtlprnft> 3.5GB/month in february
23:32 <spidey> #g 99 euros in USD
23:32 <armabot> spidey: 99 Euros = 126.2943 U.S. dollars
23:33 <spidey> if it wasn't for that damned setup fee =(
23:33 <Vanhayes> well I consider 4 weeks a month, as in day->week->month->year etc
23:34 <wrtlprnft> spidey: if you're gonna keep the server for a year it's some 10$/month, though
23:34 <wrtlprnft> and i'd probably keep it longer
23:34 <spidey> o.O
23:34 <spidey> 10euros?
23:34 <wrtlprnft> dollars
23:34 <wrtlprnft> 126/12 is about 10 :P
23:34 <spidey> hmm
23:35 <spidey> 126 = setup fee
23:35 <spidey> =p
23:35 <wrtlprnft> yep
23:35 <wrtlprnft> and if you're gonna keep it for a year it's 10/month
23:35 <spidey> hmm
23:35 <spidey> i COULD
23:35 <spidey> get 2 of those
23:35 <spidey> but not till feburary or may
23:36 <Vanhayes> why not untill then?
23:36 <spidey> i can't afford even that on my own =p
23:36 <spidey> my brother will help
23:36 <spidey> so not untill then
23:36 <spidey> and he's in kid-prision right now , rofl
23:37 <Vanhayes> how old is he?
23:37 <spidey> 15
23:38 -!- Legit [n=48c9461e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
23:39 <Legit> hey luke, u ehrE?
23:39 <Vanhayes> too legit to quit
23:39 <spidey> 2 x 160 GB SATA HDD  does that mean you get 2 160gb sata drives, or 2 that = 160
23:39 <spidey> Legit, don't wake him up, please =/
23:39 <Legit> sorry spidey... lol
23:39 <wrtlprnft> spidey: two of them
23:39 <spidey> sweet o.O
23:39 <Vanhayes> he said biab about 20 min ago
23:40 <spidey> so lets see
23:40 <spidey> hmm
23:40 <wrtlprnft> gonna play a wormux game, so i won't be here
23:40 <spidey> what's that?
23:40 <wrtlprnft> /join #wormux
23:41 <spidey> they got a windows port?
23:42 <wrtlprnft> no
23:42 <wrtlprnft> not yet, anyways
23:42 <wrtlprnft> it's very beta
23:42 <spidey> k
23:43 <wrtlprnft> until recently it all crashed if someone left the game
23:43 -!- Super [n=1805f2ec@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
23:43 <Vanhayes> ha
23:43 <Super> Hello
23:43 <Super> where can i buy a armagetron server?
23:43 <wrtlprnft> http://lightfoot.hashjr.org/
23:43 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr_: Luke-Jr_ 
23:44 <Super> how much does it cost
23:44 <Super> i want to buy a year of service 
23:44 <Super> 16 players
23:44 <wrtlprnft> it's printed on the page...
23:44 <Legit> 20 a month 
23:44 <Super> ok
23:44 <Legit> for 16
23:44 <wrtlprnft> #g 20*12
23:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 20 * 12 = 240
23:44 <Super> how can i trust that i won't be ripped off once he makes server
23:44 <wrtlprnft> $240
23:44 <Super> once i pay him*
23:44 <Legit> super? he wont refund u either
23:45 <wrtlprnft> ask him, he's gonna be back in a bit
23:45 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr_, that is
23:45 <Super> luke-jr?
23:45 <Super> whos that?
23:45 <Super> my name isn't luke jr
23:45 <Legit> how do i leave a message again?
23:45 <wrtlprnft> arma developer and once in a while player
23:45 <Super> and why would i ask him?
23:45 <wrtlprnft> Legit: #later tell nick message
23:46 <Legit> thank
23:46 <Legit> s
23:46 <wrtlprnft> because he's offering it
23:46 <Super> i see
23:46 <wrtlprnft> and his real name is somewhere
23:46 <Legit> #later tell luke-jr_ hey luke let me kno when u egt back cause the server isnt working... it wont elt me put it up
23:46 <armabot> Legit: The operation succeeded.
23:46 <Super> his server won't work?
23:47 <wrtlprnft> hmm, it's not in the AUTHORS file
23:47 <Legit> is there any one else who hsots besides lukejr?
23:47 <wrtlprnft> well, i suggest you wait for him to return and sort it out
23:47 <wrtlprnft> not commercially, i think
23:47 <Super> i don't really like the sound of luke-jr
23:47 <Super> his servers don't work
23:48 <Vanhayes> ?
23:48 <Vanhayes> they work pretty good
23:48 <Super> legit just say that the server isn't up
23:48 <Super> and it wont let him put it back up
23:49 <Super> are you all luke's buisness partners
23:49 <wrtlprnft> not really
23:49 <[dlh]> haha, no.
23:49 <Super> not really? you are partly his partners?
23:49 <Super> ok
23:49 <wrtlprnft> err, i'm not
23:49 <spidey> never
23:49 <spidey> i'd kill him and take over
23:49 <spidey> bwahaha
23:49 <Super> calm down buddy
23:49 <Legit> lol spidey
23:50 <Super> don't cream your paernts
23:50 <wrtlprnft> you could rent some vserver, though, you'd just need to figure out how to use it :P
23:50 <spidey> ....
23:50 <spidey> lol
23:50 <Super> vps hosting
23:50 <Super> correct?
23:50 <spidey> Super, do what?
23:50 <Super> cream your parents.
23:50 <Super> pants*
23:50 <spidey> ....
23:51 <Super> spidey hasn't discovered the use of his penis yet i'm guessing
23:51 <Super> or hasn't had the oportunity to use it
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> anybody ever use CentOS?
23:51 <wrtlprnft> not me
23:51 <Super> why would we?
23:51 <Super> this is a server room, for hosting
23:51 <wrtlprnft> err, now
23:51 <wrtlprnft> *no
23:51 <Super> for armagetron server hosting
23:51 <wrtlprnft> this ais a general armagetron room
23:52 <wrtlprnft> *is
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> I'm luke's partner, I make him wear a rubber, he hates it
23:52 <spidey> lol
23:52 <Super> ok, well i would liek to order a year of hosting
23:52 <Super> the 2 circle type
23:53 <spidey> luke's giving up on hosting! xD
23:53 <Super> i wish to preview his service for a month before paying, because i'm not sure if he will stop service once i pay
23:53 <spidey> ...
23:53 <Super> he is? i was going to pay up to 800 dollars for armagetron hosting of 3 servers
23:53 <spidey> nah, lol
23:54 <wrtlprnft> he's considering it for the lack of customers
23:54 <Super> i don't like this
23:54 <Super> i can't even contact him
23:54 <Super> right now, i'm stuck with your munchkins 
23:54 <spidey> o.O
23:54 <Super> his*
23:54  * spidey minimizes for Luke-Jr_ 's sake
23:54 <wrtlprnft> Super: don't expect him to answer within a few minutes at any time of the day
23:54 <spidey> xD
23:54 <Super> well, he isn't a good person to buy from then
23:55 <wrtlprnft> holy crap
23:55 <Super> if i buy a ipod at all, i'd expect to walk into the store and get service
23:55 <Super> within the first 15 minutes
23:55 <spidey> ...
23:55 <wrtlprnft> even at night?
23:55 <wrtlprnft> on sunday?
23:55 <wrtlprnft> i wanna see that store
23:55 <spidey> rofl
23:55 <Super> on sunday
23:55 <Super> at 3 pm yes.
23:55 <Super> actually on saturday at 3 pm*
23:55 <wrtlprnft> well, it would be sunday here
23:56 <wrtlprnft> almost at least
23:56 <Super> well, your retarded 
23:56 <spidey> he's fro mthe future
23:56 <Super> from the future of losers
23:56  * spidey loves the ignore button
23:56 <spidey> =)
23:56 <Super> ok well i don't think i'm going to be buying hosting now
23:56 <Super> since his little partners are jerk bags
23:56 <Super> bye.
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23:56 <wrtlprnft> o_O
23:57 <[dlh]> Nice joke. We've been punked.
23:57 <spidey> he's kidding...right?
23:57 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:57 <wrtlprnft> i guess so, too
23:57 <wrtlprnft> never heard of that guy, anyways
23:58 <Vanhayes> wow, glad I missed most of that
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> that was probably luke testing us to see if he'd support his server for him
23:58 <spidey> lol
23:58 <Vanhayes> love how he thought this room was for amagetron hosting only
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, if he was a real legitimate customer, then we just learned something
23:59 <spidey> isn't that jodas webbased irc thing?
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> not sure what, though
23:59 <spidey> the ip
23:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, he was a bigger retard than me? =p
23:59 <Vanhayes> that everyone has the right to refuse service is what I learned
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> er

Log from 2006-11-05:
--- Day changed Sun Nov 05 2006
00:00 <spidey> actually if he was real....i wish luke was stuck with him
00:00 <spidey> rofl
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> that what someone operating a commercial arma service does can have a positive/negative influence on the project, and vice versa?
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> am I the only one that got that from him?
00:00 <spidey> eh?
00:02 <wrtlprnft> that is joda's interface.
00:10 -!- Legit [n=48c9461e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC"]
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> he's probably an LoD guy
00:11  * Lucifer_arma has noticed that whenever he clanhates, the clan he targets usually collapses
00:11  * Lucifer_arma isn't suggesting there's a causal relationship, of course.
00:22 <Lucifer_arma> woohoo, $1.88 since the ads went on the wiki
00:30 <Vanhayes> was yesturday the first day with them on?
00:31 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@a0204.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit []
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's been about 4 days, but one of them's a half day because the server spontaneously quit while I was at school
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> give folks some time to get over the initial shock and google time to crawl the pages so it can serve better ads :)
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> that's kinda why I figured I need a month to make reliable projections
00:36 <wrtlprnft> well, i clicked on one just to get you money, i have to admit
00:37 <wrtlprnft> and you don't see any ads on my skin, anyways
00:40 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has joined #armagetron
00:41 <madmax|pt> hi
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01:19 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: I've never seen these so-called lag slides, nor has anyone provided me with a recording (I think I've requested them from 3-5 different people by now who complained)
01:19 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: I'd prefer not to give up, but the demand seems too void with that group doing free arma hosting
01:23 <Luke-Jr_> Super sure looked like someone just pretending
01:24 <Luke-Jr_> note Super's entire session was when Legit (also using CGI:IRC) was here =p
01:24 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: the wiki ads get clicked? I woulda clicked one, but they were all totally useless....
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01:32 <Luke-Jr_> Legit's problem fixed-- I oops'd on a file's permissions
01:32 <Luke-Jr_> #later tell Legit should work now, sorry 'bout that
01:32 <armabot> Luke-Jr_: The operation succeeded.
01:33 <Luke-Jr_> apparently scripts must be +r in addition to +x to run as a user
01:34 <GodTodd> well, of course 
01:35 <Luke-Jr_> except Perl, I imagine
01:35 <Luke-Jr_> since Perl is generally suid root
01:35 <wrtlprnft> errm
01:35 <Luke-Jr_> and btw, going out of business I'm not saying I'll refuse business in the future =p
01:36 <wrtlprnft> scripts always need to be +r
01:36 <Luke-Jr_> mainly I just mean going back to "Undetermined Setup Time" =p
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma: I've never seen these so-called lag slides, nor has anyone provided me with a recording (I think I've requested them from 3-5 different people by now who complained)  <--- this doesn't build customers
01:38 <Luke-Jr_> I can't fix something without having some idea of the cause
01:38 <Luke-Jr_> based on the lack of responses from people I follow up with and ask for recordings, my only conclusion so far is that it's something imaginary
01:38 <GodTodd> heh
01:38 <GodTodd> that's ironic
01:38 <Luke-Jr_> especially seeing as it wasn't a problem with anyone but Legit
01:39 <GodTodd> can't you have "faith" that it exists?
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, those people are your target market.  And they see someone who's either unable or unwilling to fix their problems, so they're unable or unwilling to give him money.
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> it's a problem for me too, but since there are plenty of other servers that I don't have that problem on, I play there :)
01:39 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: It's up to them to send me a recording...
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's up to you to provide a valuable service
01:40 <Luke-Jr_> especially when I can't reproduce it
01:40 <GodTodd> do it off a description
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> you don't hae the option to do this luke-centric view of the world, you *have* to be able to look at your service from prospective and current ccustomer's points of view
01:40 <GodTodd> ask good leading questions
01:40 <Luke-Jr_> GodTodd: a description tells me nothing of the cause
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> you could profile the server...
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> can you compile a kernel for it?  :)  enable profiling, look for bottlenecks...
01:40 <Luke-Jr_> nope
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> run the arma process in profiling (after compiling it accordingly) and look there for bottlenecks
01:41 <Luke-Jr_> kernel is the one thing I don't have control of
01:41  * GodTodd always had to do tech support completely blind so doesn't buy the "i have to see it to fix it" excuse in most cases
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> that's not surprising, really, they need to keep their machines secure, eh?  :)
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> no, "I have to see it to fix it" works for programmers because it's mostly true, but it doesn't work if you're doing it professionally
01:41 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: that and the kernel is shared across multiple VPS
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> if my program doesn't work on my client's machine and I can't see it or duplicate the bug, I don't get paid
01:42 <GodTodd> exactly
01:42 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: you can insist on the customer allowing you to use their machine to debug it ;p
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr_: they can insist the work wasn't completed according to contract
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> and they would be correct
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> I don't make any money promising people programs that *might* work
01:43 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: your contracts include specific machines?
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter, the problem is the cost of fighting for it in court
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> which quite rapidly exceeds the price of the job, so all a client has to do is stand strong
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> and I can either put out a bunch of money I don't have on a morally iffy case to begin with, or I can do the job I was contracted to do, regardless of what the contract reads
01:44 <Luke-Jr_> well, if it only affects a single PC, and you can't debug it there, there's really not much you can do
01:44 <GodTodd> it all boils down to "the customer is always right".
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's one and only one thing you can't do, which is throw your hands in the air and disown the problem
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> you do taht, and you're preceived (correctly) as someone who is either unable or unwilling to fix their problems
01:45 <Luke-Jr_> GodTodd: almost no big business I'm aware of works with that anymore O.o
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> and that's the business-killer
01:45 <GodTodd> then you're not aware of much
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr_: and the american economy is stagnant and at risk of stagflation
01:45 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: I don't. I ask for the data I need to fix the problem, and the customer('s players) never get back to me
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> and they still have a problem, and possibly some money to burn, but you're not getting the money because they have the problem
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> can you even see the connection?
01:46 <Luke-Jr_> ?
01:46 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr_: look for a problem yourself then if you find none say you fixed it
01:47 <Luke-Jr_> Vanhayes: lol, that'd be even worse
01:47 <Vanhayes> not for you
01:47 <Luke-Jr_> Vanhayes: since I cannot reproduce it
01:47 <Luke-Jr_> yes, for me
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> not really.  If you put a serious effort into finding it, you can make a few changes you know might fix similar problems
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> then say you fixed it
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> you can also try to break it, that can help a lot.  :)
01:47 <Luke-Jr_> I've tried changes
01:47 <Luke-Jr_> and ask Legit to let me know if it helps
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, "I can't" doesn't start any businesses, period
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> did Christopher Columbus say he wanted to stay home?
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> did George Washington say it was too cold?
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01:48 <Lucifer_arma> and did Galoka think to Udels were too ugly to save?
01:48 <Luke-Jr_> ok, so I'll just claim the problem is fictional like Vanhayes suggests? =p
01:49 <Vanhayes> well if you cant find it after really trying, and they wont give a recording, then yes
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> well, you could pay me to keep having this conversation.  :)  Since I don't sell business consulting services, I'm throwing my hands up in the air and going for a smoke.
01:49 <Luke-Jr_> well, maybe it is fictional from the server's end
01:49 <Luke-Jr_> I highly suspect it's a client-side problem
01:49 <Luke-Jr_> at least part because one player happened to mention it as "low FPS"
01:50 <Luke-Jr_> and we all know FPS has nothing to do with the server ;p
01:50 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr_: there is always lag, but if I say all your servers have weird lagg spikes and such then when someone experiences normal lag on your server they will say the same thing and eventually people will think that your servers arent good cause they have lagg 
01:51 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr_: not without a screenshot i don't
01:51 <Vanhayes> when it might just be normal armagetron lagg
01:51 <Luke-Jr_> GodTodd: eh, you don't what? o.O
01:51 <GodTodd> know that fps has nothing to do with the server
01:51 <GodTodd> or vice versa
01:51 <GodTodd> show me a screenshot first
01:52 <GodTodd> errr recording even
01:52 <Luke-Jr_> if FPS is affected by the server, then it's still a bug in the client
01:52 <GodTodd> recording
01:52 <GodTodd> or i don't know that
01:52 <Luke-Jr_> there is no technical reason why the server should affect FPS
01:52 <GodTodd> but i don't know that if i can't see it
01:52 <Luke-Jr_> GodTodd: you're just trying to humour me, and not doing a very good job IMO
01:53 <GodTodd> no, i'm trying to point out that some things you know and can deduce without a recording
01:53 <Luke-Jr_> sure, some things
01:53 <Luke-Jr_> but not bugs
01:53 <Vanhayes> oh ya spidey: since you always seem to be downloading movies, thought you might like this site, not a huge selection but it started about a month ago
01:53 <Vanhayes> http://tvlinks.voodeedoo.org/
01:53 <Vanhayes> and http://links2movies.50webs.com/
01:53 <GodTodd> that's an old link ;)
01:54 <Luke-Jr_> anyone interested in Freeciv?
01:54 <GodTodd> yeah, it's a good game
01:54 <Your_mom_arma> freeciv?
01:54 <Vanhayes> ya, Ive been using it for almost a month now, I love free T.V
01:55 <Luke-Jr_> ...
01:55 <GodTodd> Vanhayes: i know, it's great
01:55 <Luke-Jr_> so nobody wants to play... ok
01:56 <Vanhayes> maybe later
01:56 <Your_mom_arma> whats freeciv?
01:56 <Vanhayes> its some FPS game I think
01:56 <Your_mom_arma> ew not another fps
01:56 <Vanhayes> either that or one of those huge multiplayer RPG ones
01:57 <Your_mom_arma> enafps is patent pending for an opensource fps i called it
01:58  * Lucifer_arma returns from the patent office
01:58 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:59 <Luke-Jr_> ...
02:00 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: civ?
02:00 <GodTodd> it's a trap...it's 1tpm
02:00 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:01 <GodTodd> i pwn at 1tpy civ
02:01 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:01 <Luke-Jr_> lol
02:01 <Vanhayes> heh, the game is over when you die
02:01 <Your_mom_arma> well put
02:01 <GodTodd> nobody's beat me yet ;)
02:01 <Vanhayes> heh
02:01 <Luke-Jr_> Vanhayes: still like 100x faster than reality ;p
02:02 <Vanhayes> um, pretty sure I could explore the equivalent of 3 squares in less than a year
02:02 <GodTodd> actually...i really want to set up a civ server that's realtime
02:02 <Luke-Jr_> you can do 50 years of work < 1 year?
02:02 <GodTodd> one game takes 5000 years
02:03 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:03 <Luke-Jr_> Vanhayes: the problem is the world map and such aren't to scale
02:03 <Luke-Jr_> hachi.dashjr.org 5555 for tonight's game
02:03 <Luke-Jr_> you all have 15 min to join it if you're playing ;p
02:03 <GodTodd> does it come with tech support?
02:03 <Vanhayes> still it wouldnt take that long to explore 3 squares
02:03 <GodTodd> or do i pay extra for that?
02:03  * Your_mom_arma see's an alien race playing civ realtime and giving up like we did in 1tpd
02:03 <Vanhayes> I have weird lagg on that server
02:04 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma: ha
02:04 <Vanhayes> I want to set up a real time server based on the world today
02:05 <Luke-Jr_> civ lag?
02:05 <Vanhayes> so if say One country attacks another country in real life it would happen in the civ game
02:05 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr_: yes
02:05 <Luke-Jr_> ;p
02:05 <GodTodd> or vice versa...ala ender's game :)
02:05 <Luke-Jr_> /obs Bush
02:06 <Luke-Jr_> Vanhayes: lag how?
02:06 <Luke-Jr_> you mean the AIs?
02:06 <Your_mom_arma> - /take france /me falls asleep
02:06 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr_: when a new turn is about to start it freezes for a while
02:06 <ghableska> hehe
02:06  * GodTodd takes canada.
02:06  * GodTodd dies.
02:06 <Vanhayes> heh
02:06  * Vanhayes takes america
02:07  * Vanhayes kills
02:07 <ghableska> spare me!
02:07 <Luke-Jr_> Vanhayes: yeah, that's AIs
02:07 <Luke-Jr_> totally based on AIs and # of units they have
02:07 <Your_mom_arma> if your in america all van can do is inprison you unjustly
02:07 <Luke-Jr_> ghableska: come play w/ us ;p
02:07  * GodTodd takes the netherlands.
02:07  * GodTodd fucks.
02:07 <Vanhayes> lol
02:07 <ghableska> O_o
02:07  * ghableska takes Switzerland
02:08 <Vanhayes> heh
02:08  * ghableska gets rich
02:08 <ghableska> :P
02:08 <Your_mom_arma> well ghab finished the game already
02:08  * GodTodd takes mexico.
02:08  * GodTodd runs, jumps and swims.
02:08 <Vanhayes> lol
02:09  * GodTodd takes england.
02:09  * GodTodd exports comedic tv.
02:09  * Vanhayes takes some african nation
02:09  * Vanhayes is ignored by the rest of the world
02:09  * GodTodd takes north korea.
02:10  * GodTodd nukes.
02:10 <Vanhayes> lol
02:10  * ghableska takes France
02:10  * GodTodd takes Vietnam.
02:10  * ghableska does nothing
02:10  * GodTodd stalemates.
02:10 <GodTodd> nah
02:10  * GodTodd takes france.
02:10  * GodTodd is gay and snobby.
02:11 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr_: anyway to set specific techs for specific countrys?
02:11 <GodTodd> oooh...do wonders.
02:11 <GodTodd> i wanna build eurodisney in france.
02:12 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr_: ping
02:15 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr_: Ill play areound 11 pm, so in a liitle bit less than 2 hours
02:15  * Lucifer_arma notes that the Vietnamese beat the piss out of the French before they did it to the Americans
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02:18 <GodTodd> ummm not hard to beat the piss outta the french afaik
02:18 <GodTodd> heh
02:20 <Luke-Jr_> Vanhayes: you can take an AI after an hour, I guess? 11 PM is way too late a starting point...
02:21 <Vanhayes> 11pm here
02:21 <Vanhayes> thats 9 there if I remember 
02:21 <Luke-Jr_> 10
02:21 <Vanhayes> and we usually start around 12 a ish
02:21 <Luke-Jr_> still too late
02:21 <Vanhayes> 1 ish*
02:21 <Luke-Jr_> usually, more like 6-7
02:21 <Legit> luke? the server dont let me restart it, or shut down check it plz
02:22 <Luke-Jr_> Legit: using the passwd you told me?
02:22 <Luke-Jr_> within the past hour or so?
02:22 <Legit> yes
02:22 <Luke-Jr_> #armalukechat
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03:00 <DrJoeTron> my new drum kit was shipped :d
03:01 <Luke-Jr_> useless
03:02 <DrJoeTron> its abouttime :d
03:02 <DrJoeTron> pearl elx amber fade :D
03:10 <Luke-Jr_> civ??
03:10 <Luke-Jr_> guru3: 
03:11 <Luke-Jr_> GodTodd: Lucifer_arma spidey Vanhayes wrtlprnft Your_mom_arma 
03:26 <Luke-Jr_> ...
03:26 <guru3> im about to go to sleep
03:26 <Your_mom_arma> Your_mom_arma: 
03:26 <Luke-Jr_> lame
03:30 <Your_mom_arma> yeah, sleeping is for the weak
03:31 <DrJoeTron> well i sure hate all inhabitants of shrunklnad
03:31 <DrJoeTron> "dood if u dont mak me mod il hax u"
03:31 <Luke-Jr_> make him a mod darn it
03:31 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:32 <Luke-Jr_> a cheat mod
03:32 <Luke-Jr_> that doubles his rubber
03:32 <Luke-Jr_> or at least makes it seem doubled ;)
03:32 <Luke-Jr_> can easily do that by having it logarithmic instead of linear ;p
03:32 <Luke-Jr_> or such
03:33 <DrJoeTron> haha
03:33 <Luke-Jr_> perhaps more convincing if you just +5 on the rubber, and have it drop 2x faster through the last 5
03:33 <DrJoeTron> i love making smart ass comments
03:33 <DrJoeTron> "dood get out of her or i'll kick u out by vote"
03:34 <Luke-Jr_> lol
03:34 <GodTodd> better than dumb ass comments ;)
03:34 <Luke-Jr_> what's he doing in her??
03:34 <DrJoeTron> the entire room was sharing myspace pictures
03:34 <Luke-Jr_> they're *all* in her?
03:34 <Luke-Jr_> that's one big ...
03:34 <DrJoeTron> nose?
03:35 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:35 <Luke-Jr_> lol
03:35 <GodTodd> eye
03:35 <DrJoeTron> borat movie
03:35 <DrJoeTron> :D
03:35 <DrJoeTron> pretty fucking funny
03:36 <GodTodd> pft...i'm watching ghostbusterd
03:36 <GodTodd> ghostbusters*
03:36 <GodTodd> heh
03:37 <guru3> good night ya'll
03:38 <Your_mom_arma> cya
03:40 <Luke-Jr_> civ????
03:41 <Your_mom_arma> find another player or two and i might
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03:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, STILL WANNA PLAY?
03:49 <spidey> -caps =/
03:49 <spidey> everytime i exit defcon i always get my caps turned on =/
03:50 <spidey> Vanhayes, i hate site that split there movies into more than 2 parts
03:50 <Luke-Jr_> spidey: civ
03:50 <spidey> ?
03:50 <Luke-Jr_> Freeciv?
03:50 <Luke-Jr_> play
03:50 <Luke-Jr_> hachi.dashjr.org 5555
03:50 <spidey> is luci still gonna play?
03:51 <Luke-Jr_> dunno, ask him
03:52 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Your_mom_arma GodTodd wanna play?
03:53 <Luke-Jr_> Your_mom_arma: we have 3 in civ now
03:57 <Vanhayes> well its been 2 hours
03:57 <Vanhayes> ill play
03:57 <spidey> then join
03:57 <spidey> =p
03:57 <Luke-Jr_> ya
03:57 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd 
03:58 <Vanhayes> spidey: so instead of watchin a movie without downloading it you would search for and download it?
03:58 <Luke-Jr_> #last groundpig
03:58 <armabot> Luke-Jr_: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
03:58 <Vanhayes> --from*
03:58 <Luke-Jr_> wtf
03:58 <spidey> Vanhayes, search for?
03:58 <Luke-Jr_> I want to know when
03:58 <spidey> don't need to
03:58 <spidey> it's all on ares
03:58 <spidey> =)
03:58 <spidey> now join civ :|
03:58 <spidey> or Your_mom_arma will beat you up!
03:58 <spidey> =p
03:58 <Vanhayes> and ares reads your mind to find what you want?
03:58 <Your_mom_arma> #seen groundpig
03:58 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: groundpig was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 1 day, 23 hours, 27 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <groundpig> :B)
03:59 <Vanhayes> wow its had some updates since I last used it
03:59 <spidey> nah just enter 1 word of the movie
03:59 <spidey> then walla
03:59 <spidey> you have a whole list
03:59 <Vanhayes> walla?
03:59 <spidey> ...
03:59 <Vanhayes> Voila?
03:59 <spidey> no
04:00 <Vanhayes> im pretty sure you mean Voila
04:01 <GodTodd> nah...he likes washington (walla walla)
04:02 <Luke-Jr_> GodTodd: playing?
04:02 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr_: my wife won't let me
04:02 <Luke-Jr_> ...
04:02 <Luke-Jr_> cmon, it's just once a week at most...
04:03 <Luke-Jr_> ignoring 1tpd
04:03 <Your_mom_arma> GodTodd: haha
04:04 <GodTodd> don't you remember that vow? "i agree to do whatever my wife tells me to do"...
04:04 <GodTodd> i sure don't wanna break that one
04:14 <DrJoeTron> groundpid is on gt right now
04:14 <DrJoeTron> pig*
04:14  * DrJoeTron idiot
04:15 <spidey> hmm
04:15 <spidey> DrJoeTron, lets play defcon
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> don't you guys already have a freeciv game going?
04:18 <Your_mom_arma> i'll bail to finish off europe
04:18 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i can play 2 games at once =p
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> err, no, I was responding to a comment made to me while I was eating dinner
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> In an hour or so I might know if I actually have time to play tonight.  :/
04:19 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: we're starting
04:19 <spidey> in a hour i'll have conqoured Luke-Jr_ 
04:19 <Luke-Jr_> you're novice AI
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> has luke figured out that starting with 0 techs is better than starting with 20?
04:21 <Vanhayes> no
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> then I probably don't want to join this game anyway, heh
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04:27 <DrJoeTron> spidey 
04:27 <DrJoeTron> im down for deafkon
04:28 <Your_mom_arma> heh
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04:31 <spidey> game crashed
04:31 <Vanhayes> for you
04:32 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
04:32 <armabot> pong
04:32 <Vanhayes> #pong
04:32 <armabot> ping
04:33 <Your_mom_arma> crashed on me
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> that reminds me, I wanted to try to build yaro's warclient again
04:50 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma:  Your_mom_arma want to finish that jap map game?
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> I've got to do some work tonight before I do any fooling around
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> after this cigarette.  :)
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> I can probably play in another hour or so, though, we'll see
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05:01 <Lucifer_arma> Play that Fonkay music, white boy!
05:02 <Fonkay> indeed
05:02 <Fonkay> wait, who's the "white boy"?
05:02 <Luke-Jr_> Fonkay: come take an AI
05:02 <Fonkay> ?
05:02 <Luke-Jr_> civ
05:02 <Fonkay> nah
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05:03 <Luke-Jr_> aww
05:09 <Fonkay> is everyone freeciving?
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> not me
05:11 <Fonkay> neat
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to get some work done, but have to keep installing shit
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> happens when you change operating systems, heh
05:11  * Lucifer_arma went back to Mandriva, Gentoo was just too goddamned demanding
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> but I did install yaro's warclient so the next time I have to sneak attack Luke-Jr_ he won't be able to recover from it
05:13 <Fonkay> woosh
05:16 <Your_mom_arma> heh
05:18 <Luke-Jr_> ...
05:18 <Luke-Jr_> I never did
05:18 <Luke-Jr_> or neared it
05:21 <Fonkay> I'm talking on the phone
05:22 <Fonkay> fun 
05:22 <Luke-Jr_> ...
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05:35 <GodTodd> apparently not too legit to quit
05:35 <Fonkay> har
05:43 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:49 <Luke-Jr_> lol
05:50 <Fonkay> 5 min delay laugh
05:50 <GodTodd> well...it *is* sophisticated humor ;)
05:50 <GodTodd> heh
06:00 <DrJoeTron> dood guys
06:00 <DrJoeTron> legit is a []D [] []v[] []D
06:00 <DrJoeTron> a dvd
06:01 <Fonkay> legit wishes he were a pimp
06:01 <DrJoeTron> dood
06:04 <DrJoeTron> i want my new drum kit now :D
06:04 <GodTodd> am i going to be able to hear it all the way down here?
06:04 <GodTodd> heh
06:05 <Fonkay> what kind of geek plays drum anyways?
06:05  * GodTodd points at joe.
06:06 <GodTodd> i bet he's not even a real doctor either :/
06:07 <Fonkay> he's the kind of doctor no one wants to go see
06:07 <GodTodd> goddamned motherfucking bullshit cumguzzling cocksucker
06:07 <GodTodd> sorry...tourette's kicked in a bit there
06:09 <DrJoeTron> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7420dc2314 this made my night
06:11 <spidey> GodTodd, you high?
06:11 <GodTodd> nah...bout 5'7"
06:12 <spidey> lol
06:12 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron: well...that'll teach them to roll carts around the scooter track
06:16 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
06:16 <Vanhayes> #ping
06:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.40in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Low minus 2.; Sunday - Sunny with cloudy periods. High plus 5. Sunday night..increasing cloudiness. A few flurries beginning overnight. Low minus 2.; Monday - A mix of sun and cloud with 60 percent chance of flurries (1 more message)
06:17 <armabot> pong
06:23 <Fonkay> #night
06:23 <armabot> Good night Fonkay!
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07:58 <Your_mom_arm1> #ping
07:58 <armabot> pong
09:11 <DrJoeTron> #pong
09:11 <armabot> ping
09:32 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arm1
09:32 <Your_mom_arm1> ?
09:32 <DrJoeTron> it looks like possibly next year gomes and i are going up to visit michael L for a weekend
09:32 <DrJoeTron> to go ice climbing on lake superior
09:32 <Your_mom_arm1> haha
09:32 <DrJoeTron> this sounds like a shit load of fun
10:04 <DrJoeTron> and it looks like its going to possibly happen in febuary
10:04 <DrJoeTron> shit i gotta get in shape
10:05 <DrJoeTron> i'll have pictures and post them on arma :D
10:10 <Your_mom_arm1> haha nice
10:17 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
10:17 <spidey> defcon?
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> man, those hobbitses are even more annoying to conquer than latvia in the europe game
10:18 <spidey> lol
10:18 <spidey> i'm peaceful
10:18 <spidey> doing my own thing
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr_: next time set city_mindistance to something 2 or higher to prevent that :)
10:18 <Your_mom_arm1> well the 3 countries i took where a cakewalk
10:18 <spidey> raking in tons of gold when we start again
10:18 <spidey> :D
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> well send me some, I was the least powerful most backward civ in my corner when I took it over
10:18 <Your_mom_arm1> all the cities on top of each other are usless
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> I'm disbanding them left and right, trying to pick the ones I want to keep
10:19 <spidey> heh
10:19 <Your_mom_arm1> im leaving all of my cities there undefended mainly because i dont care about them
10:20 <spidey> i have a city with a 39production in coinage
10:20 <spidey> rofl
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> my cities are in the low 20s mostly :/
10:21 <spidey> well
10:21 <spidey> off 18 cities
10:21 <spidey> i'm pulling in 170gold
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think I'm doing that badly though, considering the crappy ai civ I took over
10:21 <spidey> that's coinage and 0$ tax
10:21 <spidey> xD
10:21 <Your_mom_arm1> i just hope the cornish dont have the tech to defend themselves
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't have time to build banks and stock exchanges, so I'm depending largely on coinage from cities I conquered
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> I'll take a breather after taking out the hobbits and get that other shit built
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> my income should be snowballing bigger and bigger, but instead it's barely keeping ahead of expenses :/
10:22 <Your_mom_arm1> i'll plow thrugh korea then you and luke can deal with the guys between korea and you
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> having to sell everything in the cities I take.  This war is bankrupting me!
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> sounds like korea's gonna deal with luke
10:23 <Your_mom_arm1> only thing the cities i took had was city walls
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> some of the ones I'm taking have coastal defense too
10:23 <spidey> i wanna turn on luke
10:23 <spidey> lol
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> well, smallpoxing ais are kinda ruining the game for me.  This is tedious shit I'm doing.  It was fun until I went deep into hobbitland, now it's just annoying
10:24 <Your_mom_arm1> he doesnt have much going for him, i have the army
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> either no ais, smarter ais (which might smallpox worse!) or city_mindistance
10:24 <spidey> i have the biggest army in the game
10:24 <Your_mom_arm1> i day we leave luke alone and finish the game
10:25 <Your_mom_arm1> er
10:25 <spidey> a  whole 6 muskets and 2 riflemen
10:25 <spidey> beat that!!
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> I've got one howitzer fro you, spidey :)
10:25 <spidey> :d
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'm actually taking losses though, it's amazing
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> he's got alpines :/
10:25 <Your_mom_arm1> ive got about 40 howitzers and a ton i could buy outright
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:26  * Lucifer_arma wishes he'd had a chance to build a real army
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> this build-on-the-fly shit doesn't really work for anything but border skirmishes anyway
10:26  * spidey wishes there was time for him to build a army
10:26 <Your_mom_arm1> what are you talking about
10:27 <spidey> by the time i get a army up the end year will be here
10:27 <spidey> a  decent army
10:27 <Your_mom_arm1> cant you change that?
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's why you should start with 0 techs and a normal research speed :)
10:27 <Your_mom_arm1> so it doesnt end at 2000?
10:27 <spidey> you don't jsut go in with a certain amount of troops hoping to win the war with them
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> you build a shitload of warriors, cheap, and keep them upgraded
10:27 <spidey> you have to have endless supplies =p
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> yep
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> have to have those reinforcements
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> you need to put out new ones at least as fast as you lose them in the front
10:28 <spidey> yup
10:28 <spidey> i like to go in with
10:28 <spidey> 2 carriers
10:28 <spidey> one full of bombers
10:28 <spidey> one full of choppers
10:28 <spidey> then a shit load of MI and a few howitzers
10:28 <Your_mom_arm1> i like having no stratagie at all makes things more random
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> I'm starting to favor howitzers and marines (or some other cheap infantry unit)
10:29 <spidey> howitzers own
10:29 <spidey> plus
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm a grab a smoke and then do some more shit
10:29 <spidey> the city walls
10:29 <spidey> they're canceled
10:29 <spidey> when you attack with a howitzer
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they also have firepower of 2
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> most other units only have 1
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> so they're bad mutherfuckers :)
10:29 <spidey> that's not firepower
10:29 <spidey> that's movement
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's firepower
10:29 <spidey> they have 3
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> ?  could have sworn they had 2 MP and 2 FP
10:30 <Lucifer_arma> 2 being the highest FP...
10:30 <Lucifer_arma> (except nukes)
10:30 <spidey> firepower?
10:30 <spidey> like attack?
10:30 <Lucifer_arma> there's 2 attack numbers, one that determines the chance of doing damage and one that determines the amount of damage that can be done
10:30 <spidey> they have 12 attack
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> right, so if they attack something with say 6 defense, they have 12 chances out of 18 in a round to hit
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> if they hit, they do FP damage
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> the defender would hae 6 chances out of 18 to hit the attacker
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> and he'd do FP damage if he hits
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11:07 <wrtlprnft> did anyone ever notice that /me messages didn't get logged?
11:19 <Lucifer_arma> not /me
11:20  * [dlh] *
11:32 <wrtlprnft> haha
11:32 <wrtlprnft> i mean in arma
11:59 <Lucifer_arma> I figured that's what you meant, and I never noticed that missing from the log
12:00 <Lucifer_arma> [dlh]: you didn't come into luke's freeciv server and act like a smeghead earlier, did you?
12:00 <[dlh]> no, sorry, wasn't me.
12:19 <spidey> i think it was wrtlprnft 
12:20 <spidey> i have to take a long ass drive tomorrow
12:20 <spidey> trying to stay awake so i can sleep through the whole thing =D
12:26 <wrtlprnft> what was me?
12:26 <wrtlprnft> which server, anyways? I'm only joining the 1tpd server
12:27 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: well, i tested it and it *was* missing
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14:49 <i2020> wow joda's interface has had a makeover
14:49 <i2020> hi all
14:50 <i2020> specifically wish to request if wrtlprnft  would like to play for the tronic monkeys tonight
14:51 <i2020> #latertell wrtlprnft do you want to play for the tronic monkeys tonight? 
14:51 <i2020> hmmm not sure if that worked
14:51 <i2020> #armaservers
14:51 <armabot> i2020: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
14:52 <i2020> #later tell wrtlprnft tronic monkey tonight? 
14:52 <armabot> i2020: The operation succeeded.
14:52 <i2020> this goes for anyone else actually, since we are a little low on numbers... 
14:53 <i2020> i will return! probably about 7pm gmt
14:53 <i2020> like a ghost town today...
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16:24 <spidey> MaZuffeR, ping
16:24 <MaZuffeR> pong
16:24 <spidey> wanna play deathmatch server? =p
16:24 <spidey> wanna test this weapons mod...but noone's joining =(
16:24 <MaZuffeR> ok
16:25 <spidey> =D
16:25 <MaZuffeR> ip? port?
16:26 <spidey> fallin-angels.net
16:26 <spidey> default port
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17:04 <Luke-Jr_> yawn
17:04 <ghableska> ...
17:16 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen 2020
17:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
17:16 <ghableska> is the ladle today?
17:18 <wrtlprnft> looks like it
17:18 <wrtlprnft> 1st sunday in nov
17:18 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen onetr
17:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
17:18 <ghableska> #lastseen ghableska
17:18 <wrtlprnft> hmm, apparently he wasn't online for a while
17:18 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight 13 minutes ago.
17:18 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen wrtlprnft 
17:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtlprnft |mbc| has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight 0 days 6 hours 47 minutes ago.
17:23 <ghableska> #weather 50265
17:23 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (9:54 AM CST on November 05, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa. 
17:25 <Luke-Jr_> #lastseen i2020
17:25 <armabot> Luke-Jr_: timed out
17:25 <Luke-Jr_> #seen i2020
17:25 <armabot> Luke-Jr_: i2020 was last seen in #armagetron 2 hours, 32 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <i2020> like a ghost town today...
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17:38 -!- Plato is now known as Plato_OOPS
17:38 <Luke-Jr_> OOPS?!?!?!
17:39 <Plato_OOPS> yes °°ps is the clan
17:39 <Plato_OOPS> plato was already registered on irc by someone else
17:39 <Luke-Jr_> o
17:39 <wrtlprnft> lol
17:39 <Plato_OOPS> today I will probably play the ladle with WS team
17:39 <wrtlprnft> how about °°os? :P
17:39 <wrtlprnft> OOOS
17:40 <Plato_OOPS> well the clan name wasn't chosen by me
17:40 <Luke-Jr_> °°°s\
17:40 <Plato_OOPS> it's hay-lin and rain idea
17:40 <Luke-Jr_> °°° = Opaque Orange Orders ;p
17:40 <Luke-Jr_> Rain reminds me of n°°bs
17:41 <wrtlprnft> °°° = π³/5832000
17:43 <Luke-Jr_> .........
17:43 <wrtlprnft> well, it is!
17:43 <Luke-Jr_> what is the area of a circle with circumference °°°
17:43 <Luke-Jr_> ?
17:43 <wrtlprnft> errm
17:43 <wrtlprnft> s = 2rπ
17:44 <wrtlprnft> r = s/2π
17:44 <Luke-Jr_> I don't want a function, I want a precise number
17:44 <wrtlprnft> A = πr²
17:44 <wrtlprnft> A = π(s/2π)²
17:44 <wrtlprnft> A = s²/4π
17:44 <wrtlprnft> #g 4 * pi
17:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 4 * pi = 12.5663706
17:45 <wrtlprnft> A = s² / 12.5663706
17:45 <wrtlprnft> #g (4 * pi)^-1
17:45 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (4 * pi)^(-1) = 0.0795774715
17:45 <Luke-Jr_> you lost your precisity there
17:45 <wrtlprnft> A = s²*0.0795774715
17:45 <wrtlprnft> there is no precise number
17:46 <Luke-Jr_> lame!!
17:46 <wrtlprnft> A = s²/4π
17:46 <wrtlprnft> that's precise
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18:23 <i2020> boople tips
18:24 <i2020> or... hi
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18:40 <Luke-Jr_> Lucifer_arma: it's annoying when Arma freezes every time I disconnect from a server :|
19:07 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
19:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9 players) || Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (8 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (6 players) || Wild West - Sumo (5 players) || --> In Limbo (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (3 players) || Legit's Regular Fortress (2 players) || (1 more message)
19:16 <Commn> whos ready for tourney today?
19:20 <Legit> me!!
19:21 <Plato_OOPS> me
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19:27 <i2020> me too if any other monkeys turn up
19:27 <Legit> ill show up for the tm
19:27 <i2020> hurrah
19:27 <i2020> do you know any of the opposition...?
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19:30 <JJBean> Hi Everybody
19:31 <JJBean> not so talkative today are we
19:32 <i2020> hi
19:32 <i2020> i think peoplea re playing
19:32 <Luke-Jr_> ...
19:32 <JJBean> oh, i guess thats a good enough excuse
19:32 <i2020> you playing inthe tournament?
19:33 <Luke-Jr_> no
19:33 <JJBean> I r
19:34 <i2020> why not luke?
19:34 <JJBean> Where are captains meeting?
19:34 <i2020> may i ask
19:34 <spidey> because his wife vetoed it
19:34 <spidey> bwahahah
19:34 <i2020> here... actually you are right... maybe there ought to be a captains room... hell with only four captains it shouldn't be too difficult
19:34 <i2020> hehehe
19:34 <JJBean> yea i guess  it doesnt really matter
19:34 <Luke-Jr_> cuz I don't like fortress
19:34 <i2020> wife or mother?
19:34 <i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie
19:34 <Luke-Jr_> ...
19:35 <JJBean> lol
19:35 <spidey> rofl!!!
19:35 <i2020> been spending the last hour looking at george carlin vids on youtube.... god he's good
19:36 <spidey> #quote get 32
19:36 <armabot> spidey: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
19:36 <i2020> tut tut... that's kind of like a photo... for text... how nerdish hehehe
19:36 <spidey> #q
19:36 <armabot> spidey: Quote #27: "thats like asking if vegetarians can eat animal crackers -- DrJoeTron" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:12 AM, October 26, 2006)
19:36 <spidey> #q
19:36 <armabot> spidey: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
19:36 <i2020> hehehe
19:36 <i2020> hehehahahhaha
19:37 <spidey> #q
19:37 <armabot> spidey: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
19:37 <i2020> gads you guys are clever
19:37 <JJBean> #27 is awsome
19:37 <spidey> lol
19:37 <spidey> #q
19:37 <armabot> spidey: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
19:37 <Luke-Jr_> someone fetch mom so we can continue the game
19:37 <spidey> we need luci to
19:37 <JJBean> #q
19:37 <armabot> JJBean: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
19:37 <i2020> is this civilisation...?
19:38 <spidey> yea
19:39 <JJBean> i cannot go on msn and talk to my people, i think god hates me
19:40 <Luke-Jr_> MSN sucks
19:40 <JJBean> finally he doesnt hate me anymore
19:40 <Luke-Jr_> use something standards-compliant
19:40 <spidey> Luke-Jr_, stfu
19:40 <spidey> you suck
19:40 <JJBean> oh no you didnt
19:40 <Luke-Jr_> spidey: you stfu
19:41 <spidey> take your "standard im" shit somewhere else
19:41 <Luke-Jr_> at work, I get to force everyone to use standards-compliant IM :)
19:41 <spidey> 1million+ people say standard im isn't standard
19:41 <Luke-Jr_> nope
19:41 <spidey> yup
19:41 <Luke-Jr_> and the majority can easily be wrong
19:41 <JJBean> nice come backs
19:41 <spidey> because you use it..so it's standard
19:42 <Luke-Jr_> no
19:42 <spidey> typical luke
19:42 <Luke-Jr_> it's standard because I say it is
19:42 <Luke-Jr_> so there
19:42 <spidey> what's the difference?
19:42 <Luke-Jr_> lol
19:42 <spidey> appearently your opinion doesn't count =)
19:42 <Luke-Jr_> Jingle is standard, but I don't use it (yet)
19:42 <i2020> #q
19:42 <armabot> i2020: Quote #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr" (added by wrtlprnft at 02:26 PM, August 24, 2006)
19:42 <spidey> #q
19:43 <armabot> spidey: Quote #6: "luci what exactly did you use robots for pleasure -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:52 AM, March 27, 2006)
19:43 <Luke-Jr_> #q
19:43 <Luke-Jr_> ...
19:43 <spidey> haha
19:43 <Luke-Jr_> armabot: q
19:43 <Luke-Jr_> wrtlprnft: fix the bot, it's broken again
19:43 <spidey> gj wrtlprnft 
19:43 <spidey> =p
19:43 <JJBean> he doesnt like you anymores
19:43 <Luke-Jr_> /kick JJBean 
19:43 <spidey> it's not broken
19:43 <spidey> obviously wrtl made it ignore you
19:43 <[dlh]> #q
19:43 <Luke-Jr_> it's broken
19:44 <Luke-Jr_> /banz0r spidey 
19:44 <JJBean> #q
19:44 <Commn> ooo
19:44 <Commn> JJBean
19:44 <Commn> i';m ready
19:44 <Commn> READY
19:44 <Luke-Jr_> I so broke armabot 
19:44 <Commn> to .. .eat lunch
19:44 <spidey> ready?
19:44  * Commn eats
19:44 <JJBean> ready for what?
19:44 <spidey> lol
19:44 <JJBean> did i pay you for pleasure or somthing?
19:44 <Commn> no
19:44 <Commn> but hopefully today is ladle?
19:44 <JJBean> damn
19:45 <armabot> Luke-Jr_: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
19:45 <Commn> and you are team capt?
19:45 <armabot> Luke-Jr_: Quote #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate Vanhayes. --featherfcuk" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:02 AM, June 14, 2006)
19:45 <armabot> [dlh]: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
19:45 <Luke-Jr_> lol
19:45 <spidey> rofl!
19:45 <armabot> JJBean: Quote #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an early-90s roleplaying game made by White Wolf before they went all Magic: The Gathering happy -- armabot (markov)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 06:24 AM, March 27, 2006)
19:45 <JJBean> Commm today is ladle
19:45 <Commn> < kamakazi
19:45 <Luke-Jr_> ladle is OVERRATED
19:45 <Luke-Jr_> kamakazi is dumb in fortress
19:45 <JJBean> Luke your overrated
19:45 <Luke-Jr_> JJBean: you're*
19:45 <spidey> luke stfu
19:45 <Commn> :D
19:45 <Luke-Jr_> learn English
19:45 <Luke-Jr_> foo
19:45 <Commn> haha
19:45 <Commn> Luke-Jr_ : fight me
19:46 <Luke-Jr_> /banz0r Commn 
19:46 <Commn> hehe
19:46  * spidey ignores lukes ipv6 address
19:46  * JJBean doesnt got no good dang stinkin english for some not good so reason
19:46  * Luke-Jr_ uses a different one ;p
19:46 <Commn> i play aggressive on fort
19:46 <Commn> not pussy like yous guys
19:46 <Luke-Jr_> spidey: hi
19:46 <Luke-Jr_> speaking of cats...
19:46 <spidey> ...
19:46 <Commn> ,,,
19:46 <JJBean> hi Luke
19:46 <i2020> hehehhe... it's a show... hehehe watching you guys cut each other up
19:46 <spidey> kama = lucky i don't play anymore
19:46 <spidey> =p
19:47 <Commn> blaze not playing today? :P
19:47 <Luke-Jr_> spidey: you're aware I have a /48?
19:47 <Luke-Jr_> a few /48s, actually
19:47 <JJBean> oh yea well i have a few /49's
19:47 <spidey> who's blaze?
19:47 <spidey> =p
19:47 <JJBean> so there!
19:47 <Luke-Jr_> JJBean: liar
19:47 <Luke-Jr_> wait
19:47 <Luke-Jr_> maybe not
19:47 <Luke-Jr_> /49 < /48
19:47 <JJBean> damn
19:48 <JJBean> well i have one /47 so i think that cancels out all of your /48's and my /49's will eniolate you
19:49 <Luke-Jr_> nah
19:49 <Luke-Jr_> one /48 is enough for anyone
19:49 <JJBean> im not just anyone, im a bean
19:49 <Luke-Jr_> a /48 is 1208925819614629174706176 IP addresses
19:49 <Commn> on ipv6
19:49 <Commn> ;p
19:49 <Luke-Jr_> a /48 only exists in IPv6 foo
19:50 <Commn> ah
19:50 <i2020> what are you guys on about?
19:50 <JJBean> i have no idea whats going on
19:50 <Commn> i was wondering why you didnt call it a class c
19:50 <Luke-Jr_> i2020: I have over 1208925819614629174706176 IP addresses
19:50 <Luke-Jr_> Commn: class A/B/C have been obsolete for decades
19:50 <Commn> bwahahaha
19:50 <i2020> what does that mean? i have one? an isp who provides internet access?
19:50 <i2020> what...?
19:50 <Commn> fuck china :)
19:50 <Commn> they dont need ips
19:50 <Luke-Jr_> i2020: internet address
19:51 <Commn> ipv4 are easy to write down
19:51 <Commn> ipv6 is hard
19:51 <Luke-Jr_> not always
19:51 <Commn> dead:beef is gone too
19:51  * Luke-Jr_ changes his IP to 2002:1891:f657::dead:beef
19:51 <Commn> that was easier to remember
19:51 <spidey> you can't
19:51 <i2020> that big number is the address or the number of addresses...? is it like p2p or what...? is it linear, networked... i don't understand
19:51 <Luke-Jr_> I can
19:52 <spidey> can not
19:52 <JJBean> #q
19:52 <armabot> JJBean: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
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19:53 <spidey> gj
19:53 <spidey> you did it
19:53 <Commn> lol
19:53 <Commn> hes coming back with it 
19:53 <spidey> oh i have that one ignore
19:53 <spidey> bwahahah
19:53 <Commn> lol
19:53 <luke-jr_> hmm
19:53 <luke-jr_> I did?
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19:53 <JJBean> #armagetron
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19:53 <spidey> gj
19:53 <spidey> once again
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19:53 <Commn> luke-jr__ : do you get ipv6 with rr?
19:53 <Commn> or do you have to use a ipv6 gateway?
19:54 <luke-jr_> Commn: 6to4
19:54 <luke-jr_> I use 6to4 routing
19:55 <Commn> isps are slow to move to ipv6
19:55 <luke-jr_> ping
19:55 <spidey> ?
19:55 <luke-jr_> that's your nearest 6to4-capable IPv6 router
19:56 <spidey> Minimum = 35ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 35ms
19:56 <luke-jr_> nice
19:56 <luke-jr_> where?
19:56 <spidey> hell if i know
19:56 <spidey> heh
19:56 <luke-jr_> traceroute
19:56 <spidey> isn't linux
19:57 <spidey> there's another cammand just forgot it
19:57 <luke-jr_> Windows lacks traceroute?
19:57 <spidey> it's named something else
19:57 <spidey> another command...
19:57 <luke-jr_> tracert
19:57 <luke-jr_> tracepath
19:57 <spidey> yea
19:57 <Commn> 16    50 ms    60 ms    50 ms
19:57 <spidey> tracert
19:58 <Commn> where is sl-bb21-fw-12-0.sprintlink.net
19:58 <spidey> windows can do routing
19:58 <spidey> o.O
19:58 <Commn> it goes kansas then fw
19:58 <Commn> fort worth?
19:58 <spidey> ok
19:58 <spidey> so what am i looking for luke?
19:58 <luke-jr_> the destination
19:59 <spidey>   1     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms
19:59 <spidey>   2     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms  24-159-70-17.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [24.159.70
19:59 <spidey> .17]
19:59 <luke-jr_> Commn: that's the one I use
19:59 <luke-jr_> spidey: the last one is the destination...
19:59 <spidey> the 20th hop?
19:59 <spidey> 30th*
19:59 <luke-jr_> whatever's last
20:00 <spidey>  11    35 ms    36 ms    35 ms
20:00 <spidey> that's last
20:00 <spidey> lol
20:00 <luke-jr_> you get 36ms w/ 30 hops??
20:00 <luke-jr_> O.o
20:00 <luke-jr_> ok, before that
20:00 <spidey>  10    35 ms    35 ms    33 ms
20:00 <luke-jr_> useless!
20:00 <luke-jr_> lol
20:00 <spidey> ?
20:00 <spidey> hmm
20:00 <spidey> here's one like commns
20:00 <spidey> 8    34 ms    34 ms    39 ms  sl-st21-dal-15-1.sprintlink.net []
20:01 <luke-jr_> translation: Sprint's the closest ISP to having proper IPv6 native support
20:01 <luke-jr_> and we'd all piggyback off them
20:01 <spidey> are you sure?
20:01 <spidey> i have 5 qwest host names
20:01 <spidey> =p
20:02 <luke-jr_> before or after sprint
20:02 <Commn> luke-jr_ : thats 11 hops spidey gets 36ms
20:02 <spidey> before
20:02 <luke-jr_> all that means is that you go through qwest to get to sprint =p
20:02 <Commn> i bet one of the universities near us have ipv6 stuff
20:02 <spidey> they're 3-7
20:02 <spidey> sprint is 8
20:02 <Commn> whats internet2 use ?
20:02 <spidey> i2 has hella bandwith
20:02 <spidey> i so want it
20:02 <luke-jr_> same as Internet1
20:02 <spidey> =/
20:03 <luke-jr_> i2 has no more bw than i1 =p
20:03 <luke-jr_> eg, you get what you pay for
20:03 <spidey> duh...
20:03 <spidey> let me see
20:03 <spidey> i think it was clocked at
20:03 <luke-jr_> the college I went to had i2
20:03 <spidey> like 2gigs
20:03 <luke-jr_> nobody could even load a webpage
20:03 <spidey> or something
20:03 <spidey> i2 connecting to i1 = slow
20:03 <luke-jr_> bandwidth isn't a clock
20:04 <spidey> ....
20:04 <Commn> i think spidey is remembering
20:04 <luke-jr_> no, it's cuz the college only had a T1
20:04 <Commn> the speed at which the i2 was benchmarked
20:04 <Commn> sending a whole dvd iso in 2 mins or something :)
20:05 <spidey> heh
20:05 <spidey> ok
20:05 <luke-jr_> you can do that with i1 if both ends have OC256s ;p
20:05 <spidey> the fastest record of i2
20:05 <spidey> is 6.6gb/s
20:05 <spidey> http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3403161
20:05 <luke-jr_> spidey: all that means is the backbone is less saturated
20:06 <luke-jr_> which is because less people use it
20:06 <spidey> i still want it
20:06 <spidey> it sent 875gigs in 17 minutes
20:06 <spidey> fuck yea i want it
20:06 <spidey> rofl
20:06 <luke-jr_> the day non-universities can get it, there's no benefit
20:06 <Commn> i wonder how they got hd speeds that fast
20:06 <Commn> must have been loaded in ram :)
20:07 <spidey> sata2?
20:07 <Commn> my hd cant handle writes over 10mb/s :p
20:07 <Commn> i guess so
20:07  * Commn has old hardware
20:07 <spidey> sata2 with raid mirroring?
20:07 <spidey> that way you pull data from more than one drive at a time
20:07 <spidey> o.O
20:08 <spidey> i want 2 or 3 of these sata drives on tiger direct
20:08 <spidey> 200gigs, $69
20:09 <spidey> This record speed of 6.63Gbps is equivalent to transferring a full-length DVD movie in four seconds
20:09 <wrtlprnft> JJBean: armabot is a SHE!!!
20:09 <wrtlprnft> what's broken about her?
20:09 <JJBean> ok..... where did that come from?
20:10 <spidey> wrtlprnft, it lagged
20:10 <i2020> brilliant... tried to contact troners under the influence and got timeout error... tronic monkeys may be through the finals
20:10 <spidey> we thought it was ignoring luke
20:10 <i2020> if anyone else actually turns up
20:10 <spidey> but it was just a small lag thingy
20:10 <JJBean> lol so WS vs PKC to see who plays them
20:10 <spidey> pkc?
20:10 <spidey> wtf's that
20:10 <wrtlprnft> #admin ignore list
20:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 'TitsnAss!n=TitsnAss@c-24-5-241-188.hsd1.ca.comcast.net'
20:10 <JJBean> i dont reall know
20:11 <spidey>  Commn 
20:11 <spidey> For example, one limiting factor is that the fastest available interface for PCs is the PCIX64 Bus Isolation Extender, which can only handle 7.5Gbps.
20:12 <JJBean> only 7.5Gbps
20:12 <spidey> only
20:12 <spidey> =p
20:12 <JJBean> when i download music im at like half a mb per second
20:12 <spidey> 500kb/s ?
20:12 <JJBean> yes
20:12 <spidey> i get 380 or so
20:13 <spidey> i get more download than i should
20:13 <spidey> but hella less than upload
20:13 <spidey> it's gay
20:13 <JJBean> well when you are dling something that its 500mb it takes a long time
20:13 <spidey> nah
20:13 <spidey> i can do a 700mb movie in less than a hour
20:13 <JJBean> not bad
20:14 <JJBean> my upload speed is like 15 kbps
20:14 <spidey> i'm supposed to get 250kbps
20:14 <spidey> 256*
20:14 <spidey> that's like 29kb/s
20:14 <JJBean> dl somthing in 5 minutes upload it to someone in like 50
20:14 <i2020> 30 years ago engineers talked about cars like you guys talk about computers
20:15 <JJBean> 30 years ago i wasnt alive
20:15 <spidey> me either
20:15 <spidey> lol
20:16 <i2020> a new generation
20:16 <JJBean> the best generation
20:16 <i2020> hehehe... well we'll have to see about that
20:16 <Commn> yeah
20:16 <Commn> fuck those people 30 years ago
20:16 <Commn> they said we'd have flying cars
20:16 <spidey> we don't
20:16 <spidey> ?
20:16 <i2020> so what do you think we will ahve in 30 years time?
20:16 <spidey> flying cars
20:16 <spidey> xD
20:16 <JJBean> i thought that was what a plane was
20:16 <Commn> they had planes 30 years ago
20:16 <i2020> they had plane back then ehhehe for bombs and shit heheheh
20:16 <JJBean> really
20:16 <Commn> flying cars implies everyone flying around
20:17 <JJBean> holy i thought they only had like horses and stuff
20:17  * Commn goes play arma
20:17 <i2020> heheheheh horses with bombs? hehehe
20:17 <spidey> i don't like flying
20:17 <spidey> =(
20:17  * JJBean wonders when he can go play arma
20:17 <Commn> wild west sumo
20:17 <JJBean> ok
20:17 <JJBean> i will lagg tones with this and msn open and now arma, oh man atleast 300 ping
20:18 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
20:18 <Commn> you are on cable and 300 ping?
20:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || Wild West - Sumo (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || Six Eternal Dragon Server (4 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (3 players) || AST Server |Fortress| (3 players) || Carina Epsilon (high (1 more message)
20:18 <JJBean> yes
20:18 <Commn> thats not right
20:18 <JJBean> WW sumo has like 3 people in it not 7
20:18 <Vanhayes> #serverdetaisl ASt
20:19 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails west
20:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: Wild West - Sumo: Players (2/10): Kamakazi, xS delarge
20:19 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails ASt
20:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server: Players (4/12): -=}ID< Steven, .dBd|RazoR, STREETWISE, |HC|·JrAsH
20:19 <Vanhayes> er
20:19 <Commn> ast then :)
20:19 <Commn> lets all go to ast!
20:19 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails AST Server |Fortress|
20:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ast server |fortress|” at the moment, sorry.
20:19 <i2020> see you guys later...
20:19 <Commn> where is ladle server?
20:19 <JJBean> uhm what about ladle???
20:19 <Commn> which one i mean
20:19 <i2020> remember the start is in our
20:20 <i2020> hour
20:20 <JJBean> in an hour? i thought it start in 10 minutes
20:20 <Commn> ya
20:20 <Commn> someone said 2:30
20:20 <JJBean> and i heard 11:30
20:20 <Vanhayes> #time
20:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: 08:19 PM, November 05, 2006
20:20 <JJBean> lol
20:20 <Commn> see JJBean, i told you 
20:20 <i2020> well... there isn't quarter final round
20:20 <i2020> there are only 4 teams
20:20 <i2020> if that actually
20:20 <JJBean> ok so i guess Manta can play after all
20:21 <i2020> so if the finals are in two hours, then the semis are in about an hour
20:21 <JJBean> wow this is going to be a stupid ladle
20:21 <i2020> what time is that van?
20:21 <i2020> yup it is
20:21 <i2020> not many players this time
20:21 <Vanhayes> I think its one or two hours off GMT
20:22 <Vanhayes> Its wrtlprnft time
20:22 <JJBean> maybe we should not have a ladle so some while so the suspense will build and then we will have a full teams list like the first two
20:22 <i2020> great.... i think it is 7.22pm gmt now, and the semi is at 8.15 with finals at 9.00pm
20:22 <i2020> whatever... i just want a good game
20:23 <i2020> remember there is the world cup this month... which i am sure everyone is thrilled about
20:23 <JJBean> what time should captains come back
20:23 <Plato_OOPS> I'm here
20:23 <i2020> well... um... hurrah... which teamcaptains have turned up?
20:23 <JJBean> Plato we arnt playing for another hour now, since their is no first round
20:23 <i2020> i am for tronic monkeys
20:24 <spidey> i am for spidey-sucks
20:24 <Plato_OOPS> ok
20:24 <JJBean> i am for Wraith Squadron
20:24 <Commn> how can you guys both be oops and WS :p
20:24 <Vanhayes> I am for spidey sucking too
20:24 <JJBean> what? im not oops
20:24 <spidey> #serverdetails west
20:24 <armabot> spidey: Wild West - Wild Fortress: No online players.
20:24 <i2020> ok... so we need TuI and PKC
20:24 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: gonna rejoin?
20:24 <JJBean> were is durka and ady
20:24 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: if not, you're gonna be killed
20:25 <Legit> tui is n 2020 team challenge
20:25 <luke-jr_> please don't tell me Durka is coming here....
20:25 <Legit> durkas n 2020 team challenge
20:25 <luke-jr_> =p
20:25 <JJBean> oh
20:25 <JJBean> ill go their too
20:25 <Vanhayes> Are you threatining my life?
20:25 <spidey> Commn, 
20:25 <spidey> JJBean, 
20:25 <spidey> spidey, 
20:25 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: nah, threatening the AI
20:25 <i2020> it is? he is they are?
20:25 <spidey> i need practice
20:25 <spidey> lots of it
20:25 <i2020> well... whatever
20:25 <luke-jr_> hehe
20:25 <i2020> i will go there soon enough
20:25 <spidey> i haven't played tron in ...
20:25 <spidey> forever
20:25 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_: how long did you guys play after I quit?
20:26 <spidey> long
20:26 <i2020> looks like it might be good to return here before 8.15pm gmt... a little before it
20:26 <spidey> #server details AST
20:26 <spidey> #serverdetails AST
20:26 <armabot> spidey: AST Server  |Fortress|: Players (9/16): *~LoD~*ElDiablo, >S3D|~Hellion, I/O Bus, Kamakazi, Luzifer, Sticky, xS delarge, |AST| FoFoLiNo, ~{GP}~ Canada
20:26 <i2020> right i am off to play!
20:26 <Vanhayes> wow that filled up fast
20:27 <spidey> i just hope i can connect
20:27 <spidey> fucking sync error
20:27 <Commn> lol
20:27 <Commn> its laggy there
20:27 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: 3 AM?
20:28 <Vanhayes> what time is it there now?
20:28 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: we wiped out the Filipinos
20:28 <luke-jr_> 1:28
20:28 <spidey> wrtlprnft, 
20:28 <Vanhayes> so 5 am here
20:28 <Vanhayes> late
20:28 <Vanhayes> or early I guess
20:29 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: we're undecided between wiping out your AI or Cornish
20:29 <luke-jr_> unless you rejoin, I'm declaring war on your AI
20:29 <luke-jr_> he's blocking all my production
20:29 <Vanhayes> Have I grown into an evil empire yet?
20:29 <luke-jr_> mom, Luci, and I have top scores ;p
20:29 <luke-jr_> err
20:29 <luke-jr_> not Luci, spidey
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20:29 <luke-jr_> Luci's off doing his own thing fighting hobbitses
20:29 <Vanhayes> did spidey trade techs for cities again?
20:29 <luke-jr_> no
20:30 <Vanhayes> good
20:30 <luke-jr_> lol
20:30 <Vanhayes> meh, Id rather finish another game
20:30 <luke-jr_> then I'll finish off your AI
20:30 <luke-jr_> I'm quite pissed about not getting my stealth bombers yet
20:31 <Commn> 2020
20:31 <Commn> what server we playing on?
20:31 <luke-jr_> btw, the hobbits made a wall out of cities ;p
20:31 <i2020> yes?
20:31 <Commn> what ladle server?
20:31 -!- Sticky [n=Sticky@80-47-38-9.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #armagetron
20:32 <i2020> the wiki has it all... tui vs tm on 2020, and ws vs cPk or whatever on zmans
20:32 <Sticky> hay all
20:32 <Commn> oh
20:32 <i2020> unless teamcaptains hoose alternatives... that's what it looks like
20:32 <Commn> ok :)
20:33 <Sticky> any teams wanting another member tonight??
20:35 <luke-jr_> probablu
20:35 <Commn> Sticky : have to talk to team capts in an hour :)
20:35 <Sticky> ahh
20:35 <Sticky> where they all meeting??
20:35 <Commn> or now i guess
20:35 <Commn> here?
20:36 <i2020> well it all starts at 8.15 so... join a team heheh
20:37 <i2020> about half an hour to go... tronic monkeys could do with players
20:38 <i2020> tui are putting pressure on to start now...
20:38 <i2020> why are they in a hurry?
20:39 <Commn> cause
20:39 <Commn> you said
20:39 <Commn> it would start now
20:39 <Commn> and now you say in an hour
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20:44 <luke-jr_> soooooooo borrrrred
20:44 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: spidey 
20:45 <Commn> boooored
20:45 <luke-jr_> Vangaynus: 
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20:46 <i2020> calm adown... looks like we are ready to play... if joda pops up... he will be fucked if we start before 8.15
20:47 <Commn> :)
20:47 <luke-jr_> who will do the f**ing?
20:48 <Commn> i2020 : well we are waiting for manta too
20:48 <Commn> :)
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20:49 <i2020> hmmm 2020server connection terminated
20:49 <Legit> its up now
20:49 <i2020> good
20:49 <i2020> no sign of joda anywhere?
20:49 -!- Legit [n=48c9461e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
20:49 <i2020> #lastseen joda
20:49 <i2020> is that the right code?
20:49 <armabot> i2020: timed out
20:51 -!- Plato_OOPS [n=Plato@213-140-17-98.ip.fastwebnet.it] has quit ["Leaving"]
20:51 <luke-jr_> #seen joda
20:51 <armabot> luke-jr_: I have not seen joda.
20:51 <luke-jr_> #seen joda_bot
20:51 <armabot> luke-jr_: joda_bot was last seen in #armagetron 4 weeks, 6 days, 4 hours, 41 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <joda_bot> back to works
21:01 <Commn> party at laggy AST fort
21:02 <JJBean> 2020 who is PKC captain?
21:03 <i2020> check i8t out n the wiki... ady i think... we are about to start our semi 
21:04 <JJBean> what server?
21:07 <i2020> you guys are in zmans i think
21:07 -!- manta [n=kim@64-118-124-19-as-00.dialin.oakhurst.sti.net] has joined #armagetron
21:07 <i2020> we are in 2020
21:10 -!- manta [n=kim@64-118-124-19-as-00.dialin.oakhurst.sti.net] has quit [Client Quit]
21:12 -!- JJBean [n=irc4u@S010600045acfc6b0.vn.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
21:17 <luke-jr_> spidey: ...
21:17 <luke-jr_> #echo spidey wanna practise
21:17 <armabot> spidey wanna practise
21:18 <Commn> spidey is playing right now
21:18 <Commn> on ast
21:19 <luke-jr_> boo\
21:19 <luke-jr_> shall I mess him up?
21:20 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p5087420E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
21:20 <Commn> spidey says stfu luke
21:20 <luke-jr_> z-man: hi
21:20 <z-man> That's not an uncommon thing to say around here :)
21:21 <z-man> hi luke
21:21 <Commn> hi z-man
21:21 <z-man> what's with the ladle? People pop in and out of tournament fortress, should I direct them somewhere?
21:22 <Commn> WS is going to zman to practice now
21:22 <Commn> then we fight pxc
21:22 <Commn> tell pxc to get ther e:)
21:23 <spidey> fuck
21:23 <spidey> wrtlprnft, 
21:23 <spidey> or Lucifer_arma_ 
21:24 <spidey> #logs
21:24 <z-man> PXC?
21:24 <z-man> I'm supposed to know what that is?
21:24 <z-man> oh, the other team.
21:24 <spidey> i keep getting dns errors on arma
21:24 <spidey> F:\Documents and Settings\spidey>ping master2.armagetron.net
21:24 <spidey> Ping request could not find host master2.armagetron.net. Please check the name a
21:24 <spidey> nd try again.
21:24 <spidey> =(
21:27 <z-man> this is an excelent time for the wiki to be down.
21:28 <z-man> Lucifers server must have bitten the big one.
21:28 <spidey> h
21:28 <spidey> hm
21:29 <spidey> you sure it's the wiki?
21:40 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-36-181-241.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
21:41 <Commn> #onlineplayers
21:41 <armabot> Commn: This data is 86 seconds old; !K¡ Tø`styTø`st, (V)Mary, (WS) JUD, (WS) Spidey, (WS)AshitakA, (WS)JJBean, (WS)Kamakazi, (WS)Manta, (WS)Plato, +ECT+ Cougar, +ECT+ Smoothy, -*AppleZ*~, -=}Ãë°Qølëð, .dBdPinkPanther, .dBd|PøVeR_ULT|, 0x99ff00Cid, </MNK\> Batz, =FR= Ryuran, alf  Ãð-_, Alien, Archangel, aZ, Borat, C.O.D.I. v.2.71, CTxWargasm, Da Rath 0f Line, darth mo, dcell, Elvan, emman9, epsy, Ethan, (2 more messages)
21:41 <Commn> #more
21:41 <DrJoeTron> #ping
21:41 <armabot> pong
21:41 <armabot> Commn: fornotbob, fucking, Genki, georgemoore, H2H|Rush-Hour, hank, I_LUV_CAK, jorge el 7, jose, Kon0xff5a00T&A, KoNULLA, Lamneth, le villagois, Lex, Lightning, Luzifer~pkc, major FATAL, Marth, Meli, moi =D, Nathan, NeXuZ, OLLI, one^tm, PAC:MAN  <, Plastik, Player 1, Player 2, Playstef, puk(CZ), raabrashi, rain^tm, Raven Valukar, RaWR*LAGGINATOR, razor, sanette, sasser, Sentoku, Skeleton King, slip, smax0r, Sno-dog, (1 more message)
21:41 <Commn> #more
21:41 <Commn> whos in pxc?
21:41 <Commn> or pkc
21:41 <DrJoeTron> who is any of these people
21:41 <Commn> hehe
21:41 <DrJoeTron> and why arent we taking money from them
21:41 <Commn> luzifer there
21:41  * DrJoeTron uh, yeah arma costs money now
21:41 <armabot> Commn: Spazzy;, Spectator, squill, T.R.X 314, ThatGuy, tobiwan, trAth, TuI-MiMe, TuI~GaNjA, TuI~psychedelic, TµÃ¬Ãråçj, TµÃ¬Ãud, ULTRA, Volter, WarbringerX, wtfxup, Yin, Z-Man, zazazoom, Zop [tm.temp], [TM] Legit, [void]Lennart48, |< MEL, |AST| Paul, |»Fre«|$~K3~$, ~*SP*~ ÃMÃgÃ, ~*SP*~joda.bot, ~HSID~ cookie, ~{GP}~ Canada, ~{GP}~Kaputt, ~|DS|~|CruZ|~
21:42 <DrJoeTron> whats with all the weird people on
21:42 <DrJoeTron> its ladle day isnt it
21:42 <DrJoeTron> on arma i mean
21:43 <wrtlprnft> my master's up.
21:43 <wrtlprnft> so just try long enough
21:43 <DrJoeTron> i just got done de-dusting my pc's
21:44 <DrJoeTron> and the crapster cage
21:54 <i2020> how many has ws got?
21:54 <i2020> qplaying in 2020 team challenge in 5 mins...
21:54 <Commn> 6 i think
21:54 <Commn> not in zman then?
21:56 <Commn> ok 2020 team challenge :)
21:57 <i2020> no idea why but we played best of 5... though i wasn't playing at all in the last match we won 3-1
22:00 -!- Lucifer_clone [n=satan@ppp-70-251-188-131.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
22:01 <wrtlprnft> 118 players online, wow
22:02 <i2020> damn.. that would make such a good tournament with 118 players
22:02 <wrtlprnft> heh
22:03 <i2020> wow
22:03 <[dlh]> hey, z-man kicked me >:(
22:03 <i2020> my team has disappeared from 2020 team challenge
22:03 <Commn> lol 2020
22:03 <Commn> they went to get WS
22:03 <Commn> they are back now
22:03 <i2020> ? thought jj said 2020 was better
22:04 <Commn> we are at 2020 team challenge
22:05 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:06 <wrtlprnft> just two minutes ago z-man's fortress was full
22:06 <wrtlprnft> now it's empty
22:06 <Sticky> can TM even get in...they have like 2 players in and the server is full
22:06 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails 2020
22:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 2020 team challenge: Players (16/16): (WS) JUD, (WS) Spidey, (WS)AshitakA, (WS)JJBean, (WS)Kamakazi, (WS)Manta, (WS)Plato, one^tm, rain^tm, Sticky, tm~*Sasha*~, [TM] Legit, [TM]joda.SP, ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy, ~{GP}~ Canada
22:06 <wrtlprnft> 7v5
22:07 <Sticky> how do you get a list of bot commands??
22:07 <wrtlprnft> #list
22:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
22:07 <wrtlprnft> #list alias
22:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, unlock, and wikipedia
22:07 <[dlh]> #insight
22:07 <armabot> [dlh]: The insipid madness of new technologies will bankrupt all hope for business models.
22:07 <Vanhayes> #q
22:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
22:08 <i2020> wrtl... we need some players... van.. come and join us... sticky too
22:08 <wrtlprnft> ok...
22:08 <Vanhayes> sigh
22:08 <Sticky> k
22:08 <Vanhayes> allright
22:08 <wrtlprnft> server full
22:08 <Commn> lol
22:09 <Vanhayes> #q
22:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #27: "thats like asking if vegetarians can eat animal crackers -- DrJoeTron" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:12 AM, October 26, 2006)
22:09 <wrtlprnft> kick some SPs…
22:09 <i2020> ok i am on it...
22:09 <Vanhayes> kick spidey, no one will care :)
22:09 <wrtlprnft> argh
22:09 <wrtlprnft> client crashed
22:10 <wrtlprnft> now the server will be full until i time out
22:12 <Vanhayes> wow 2020's server disappeared from my list
22:12 <Vanhayes> er nvrm it just came back
22:15 -!- Lucifer_arma_ [n=satan@ppp-70-251-188-131.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:17 <i2020> the server sucks... we're restarting at zmans
22:18 <Commn> yep
22:18 <Commn> hehe
22:18 <wrtlprnft> z-man: spidey wants you to come back to your server
22:18 <wrtlprnft> we're playing on it
22:19 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has joined #armagetron
22:19 <Vanhayes> i2020: you dont still need me do you?
22:20 <Commn> we need zman to admin at zman server ;p
22:21 <i2020> don' tthink so...
22:23 <wrtlprnft> what do we need him for anyways?
22:23 <wrtlprnft> the server's full, no newbies
22:24 <Commn> keep out riffraff ;p
22:24 <Commn> ah
22:24 <Lackadaisical> is that the final of the ladle?
22:24 <Commn> i think so
22:25 <i2020> yes
22:29 -!- Nixda290 [n=59370334@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
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22:39 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-71-248-204-26.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
22:40 <Your_mom_arma> did i miss something?
22:43 <Commn> wrtl is lagging in tourney finals
22:45 <wrtlprnft> wtf
22:46 <wrtlprnft> #ping
22:46 <wrtlprnft> #ping
22:46 <wrtlprnft> #ping
22:46 <wrtlprnft> grr
22:46 <wrtlprnft> #ping
22:46 <wrtlprnft> #ping
22:48 <armabot> pong
22:48 <armabot> pong
22:48 <armabot> pong
22:48 <armabot> pong
22:48 <armabot> pong
22:52 <DrJoeTron> its like he held the balls
22:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> forrest gump
22:57 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_clone isnt Lucifer_arma i take it
23:11 <z-man> Note: if someone wants to play as reinforcement for WS or TM, just try to join, I'm spectating and I'll leave immediately.
23:13 <Commn> ws needs one
23:14 <[dlh]> I'll play…
23:14 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has joined #armagetron
23:14 <madmax|pt> hi
23:14 <Commn> nevermind
23:14 <Commn> sasha left so its even
23:14 <[dlh]> ok :\
23:15 <Commn> er nm
23:15 <Commn> sasha back
23:15 <Commn> tjoin dih
23:15 <[dlh]> it is full, z-man is still there
23:17 <z-man> sasha is back, he was only spam-kicked
23:17 <z-man> I'm off now, try again
23:21 <wrtlprnft> nice
23:21 <wrtlprnft> lemme upload those screenshots
23:21 <wrtlprnft> some nice weird lag effects
23:21 <wrtlprnft> but a fault on my sude
23:21 <wrtlprnft> *side
23:22 <Commn> blah
23:22 <Commn> gg
23:22 <Commn> #note help
23:22 <Commn> #notes help
23:22 <armabot> Commn: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
23:22 <Commn> #send
23:22 <Commn> #message help
23:22 <armabot> Commn: (message <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell $1 $2".
23:22 <spidey> dlh = nemo?
23:23 <Commn> guess so
23:23 <Commn> tell bean we needed nemo
23:23 <spidey> was to late
23:23 <spidey> someone on the left side forgot to break early that last match
23:23 <spidey> =p
23:24 <wrtlprnft> #help later tell
23:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
23:24 -!- JJBean [n=irc4u@S010600045acfc6b0.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
23:24 <JJBean> man i r tired
23:24  * spidey slaps bean
23:24 <JJBean> so much middle bitching by me
23:25 <JJBean> it was unreal how many times i got down it
23:25 <spidey> should have let nemo play =p
23:25 <JJBean> meh
23:26 <[dlh]> Would have only played one round anyway.
23:26 <spidey> the round that counted =p
23:26 <JJBean> i didnt see a point of him coming in for only one round
23:26 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=468
23:26 -!- Fonkay [i=Fonkay@blk-89-218-73.eastlink.ca] has joined #armagetron
23:26 <wrtlprnft> very weird, some of them
23:26 <spidey> chances are nemo could have won that round =p
23:26 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=473 ← those of today
23:26 <Lackadaisical> who won?
23:26 <JJBean> TM
23:26 <spidey> tm
23:27 <spidey> man
23:27 <spidey> this is gay
23:27 <wrtlprnft> we won!
23:27 <Fonkay> hi
23:27 <spidey> my isp's fucking dns server are gay
23:27 <i2020> it seems that anarchic teams seem to do well
23:27 <spidey> i can't resolve any domain
23:27 <spidey> that i don't have cached
23:27 -!- [dlh] is now known as nemostultae
23:27 <nemostultae> #notes
23:27 <armabot> nemostultae: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *josh*, Nickserv, one*, operserv, someone, and unknown.
23:27 <i2020> first anarchic wanderers and now tronic monkeys who don't have any regulars apart from me
23:27 -!- nemostultae is now known as [dlh]
23:28 <wrtlprnft> spidey: /whois wrtlprnft → that IP
23:28 <spidey> yea i did
23:28 <spidey> that's how i listed the server on tron
23:28 <wrtlprnft> or or http://master3.armagetronad.net/arma/screenshot_479.png
23:28 <spidey> otherwise i got dns errors
23:30 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)]
23:31 <Sticky> spidy use opendns
23:31 <madmax|pt> i2020: is shrink enabled on your server?
23:32 <spidey> ?
23:32 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: it isn't
23:32 <Fonkay> who's sticky?
23:32 <Sticky> i am sticky
23:33 <JJBean> why is our wiki down?
23:33 <Fonkay> it's always down
23:33 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-73-22-151.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
23:33 <Fonkay> luci's having problems
23:33 <JJBean> first time its been down for me
23:33 <spidey> DrJoeTron, z-man Commn defcon?
23:34 <Fonkay> sorry by "it's always down" i mean it goes down quite often
23:34 <Sticky> spidey http://www.opendns.com/ provide a free dns service that is better than most isp ones... use ip and as your first 2 dns servers
23:34 <i2020> it has been going down more often
23:34 <i2020> i think luci is reconfiguring things
23:34 <JJBean> oh
23:34 <Fonkay> it's all on the forums.
23:35 <Fonkay> something about his computer about to explode or something
23:35 <JJBean> i havnt checked those forums in awhile
23:35 <i2020> madmax: i think so... i will check
23:35 <JJBean> i should go do that
23:35 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewforum.php?f=57
23:36 <Fonkay> self-destructing, exploding, same thing
23:36 <wrtlprnft> anyways, good night, school tomorrow
23:37 <wrtlprnft> Fonkay: i hope he keeps his kids away from the server at the time it explodes
23:37 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:37 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:37 <Fonkay> night, yes i hope so too
23:38 <i2020> night all
23:39 <Fonkay> #weather halifax
23:39 <armabot> Fonkay: Temperature: 34°F / 1°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 30.41in / 1030hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries early this evening. Clearing late this evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Low minus 3.; Monday - Becoming cloudy. A few flurries beginning late in the morning (1 more message)
23:39 <madmax|pt> TM won the ladle?
23:39 <Fonkay> flurries? ewww
23:39 <i2020> yup... did you get my response to your question madmax|pt? 
23:40 <madmax|pt> "i think so, i will check" ?
23:40 <Sticky> #weather new york
23:40 <armabot> Sticky: The current temperature in New York, NY is 48.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Wind: N at 3 mph (5 km/h).
23:40 <i2020> CYCLE_WALL_RUBBER_SHRINK 0.5 is what is written up there
23:40 <i2020> is that what you mean?
23:40 <madmax|pt> hmm, ok
23:41 <Fonkay> #weather new glasgow
23:41 <madmax|pt> i think its that one
23:41 <i2020> hmmm, night
23:41 <madmax|pt> thanks
23:41 <armabot> Fonkay: The current temperature in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia is 38.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Wind: NW at 12 mph (19 km/h).
23:41 <madmax|pt> gnight
23:41 -!- i2020 [n=d5d9c2b0@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has left #armagetron []
23:41 <Sticky> #weather my house
23:41 <armabot> Sticky: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "my house".
23:41 <JJBean> #weather squamish
23:41 <armabot> JJBean: The current temperature in suburb, Squamish, British Columbia is 51.3°F (2:33 PM PST on November 05, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.29 in 991.8 hPa. 
23:42 <JJBean> man it sucks here
23:42 <Sticky> heh
23:42 <JJBean> cold wet an humid
23:42 <Sticky> can it do UK places??
23:42 <JJBean> it got my little shit hole town in canada
23:42 <[dlh]> #weather Amsterdam
23:43 <armabot> [dlh]: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 11:25 PM CET; Overcast. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Overcast. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Overcast. High:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Clear. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.;
23:43 <[dlh]> lame.
23:43 <[dlh]> there we go.
23:44 <JJBean> luci's personal website is also down, im assuming run off the same computron as wiki
23:44 <Sticky> #weather Leamington Spa
23:44 <armabot> Sticky: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "Leamington Spa".
23:44 <Sticky> poor poor
23:44 <Sticky> #weather Coventry
23:44 <armabot> Sticky: Temperature: 42.1°F / 5.6°C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 10:44 PM GMT; Overcast. High:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Overcast. Low:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. Low:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.; Clear. High:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.;
23:45 <JJBean> #weather canada
23:45 <armabot> JJBean: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "canada".
23:45 <JJBean> daim
23:45 <Sticky> is tempeted to ask wheather *
23:45 <Fonkay> ?
23:45 <Sticky> weather for EVERYWHERE
23:45 <JJBean> #weather wheather
23:46 <armabot> JJBean: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "wheather".
23:46 <Sticky> where does it get its info from??
23:46 <Sticky> #list
23:46 <armabot> Sticky: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
23:46 <Fonkay> google?
23:46 <madmax|pt> #hashmap
23:46 <Fonkay> you can ask for it from certain places if you're in the USA
23:47 <Fonkay> #cnn 02134
23:47 <armabot> Fonkay: The current temperature in Cambridge, MA is 45.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Wind: SW at 5 mph (8 km/h).
23:47 <JJBean> #alias
23:47 <Sticky> what is #Linux ??
23:47 <JJBean> what is #alias?
23:48 <JJBean> alias shows up as another chat
23:48 <Fonkay> #q
23:48 <armabot> Fonkay: Quote #16: "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian Kernighan" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:21 PM, May 03, 2006)
23:48 <JJBean> #q
23:48 <armabot> JJBean: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
23:48 <JJBean> lol
23:49 <JJBean> #time
23:49 <armabot> JJBean: 11:48 PM, November 05, 2006
23:49 <Sticky> #Linux
23:49 <JJBean> #rss
23:49 <armabot> JJBean: (rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
23:50 <JJBean> what^^
23:51 <madmax|pt> #rss http://www.publico.clix.pt/rss.asp?idCanal=56 2
23:51 <armabot> madmax|pt: Académica vence Estrela da Amadora (2-0) || Naval perde em casa para o Marítimo (1-0)
23:51 <madmax|pt> nice
23:51 <JJBean> oh its for posting links
23:52 <JJBean> #rss http://wraithsquadron.19.forumer.com/index.php
23:52 <armabot> JJBean: Unable to download feed.
23:52 <Fonkay> #insult madmax|pt
23:52 <armabot> madmax|pt - You are nothing but a surly assload of headless assholes. 
23:53 <JJBean> nice one
23:53 <madmax|pt> JJBean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS_(file_format)
23:53 <madmax|pt> #insult Fonkay 
23:53 <armabot> Fonkay - You are nothing but an inferior mass of craven gunk. 
23:53 <madmax|pt> :P
23:53 <Fonkay> you know what's missing from the #list?
23:54 <JJBean> what?
23:54 <Fonkay> #eliza hello
23:54 <armabot> Fonkay: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
23:54 <Fonkay> #eliza I'm bored and need someone to talk to
23:54 <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say that?
23:54 <Fonkay> #eliza cause I'm a loser baby
23:54 <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say cause you 'm a loser baby?
23:54 <Fonkay> #eliza you're stupid
23:54 <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say me 're stupid?
23:55 <Fonkay> #eliza bye
23:55 <armabot> Fonkay: My secretary will send you a bill.
23:55 <Fonkay> #eliza ok
23:55 <armabot> Fonkay: Can you elaborate on that?
23:55 <Sticky> #hashmap
23:55 <Fonkay> who wrote all the insults anyways?
23:56 <Fonkay> luci?
23:56 <JJBean> #eliza how do you feel about the downsizing of the global economy?
23:56 <armabot> JJBean: Is it because do i feel about the downsizing of the that you came to me?
23:56 <JJBean> #eliza could please elaborate on your question
23:56 <armabot> JJBean: Why do you say could elaborate on my question?
23:57 <Sticky> this isnt that dam bot they used to try to win the turing prize is it??
23:57 <Fonkay> i should hope not.
23:57 <Fonkay> she's really dumb, and all she does is ask questions
23:57 <JJBean> #eliza does VanHayes smell?
23:57 <armabot> JJBean: What do you think?
23:57 <Sticky> belive me i spoke to the highest entry of the turing prize and it was crap
23:58 <JJBean> #eliza i think he smells funny, what about you?
23:58 <armabot> JJBean: What do you think?
23:58 <JJBean> #eliza you already asked me that
23:58 <armabot> JJBean: Can you elaborate on that?
23:58 <JJBean> #eliza why don't you give me a straight answer
23:58 <armabot> JJBean: Is it because don 't i give you a straight answer that you came to me?
23:59 <JJBean> #eliza i came to you for a straight answer, not to be asked another question
23:59 <armabot> JJBean: Why do you say that?
23:59 <Your_mom_arma> the #insult thing is semi random
23:59 <JJBean> #eliza I'm not the one on trial here, you are
23:59 <armabot> JJBean: Why do you say that?
23:59 -!- spidey_ [n=spidey@68-114-141-224.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
23:59 <JJBean> #eliza just give me an answer that isn't a question
23:59 <armabot> JJBean: Is it because isn 't a question that you came to me?

Log from 2006-11-06:
--- Day changed Mon Nov 06 2006
00:00 <spidey_> Sticky, 
00:00 <spidey_> thanks for the dns servers =)
00:00 <spidey_> it resolves domains now, and it's way faster
00:00 <JJBean> #eliza does spidey smell funny?
00:00 <armabot> JJBean: What do you think?
00:00 <JJBean> #eliza I dont know i have never smelt him, what do you think?
00:00 <armabot> JJBean: Why do you say that?
00:00 <spidey_> #eliza tell JJBean to die,please
00:00 <armabot> spidey_: This is not a healthy way of thinking.
00:00 <spidey_> :|
00:01 <JJBean> #eliza please spank spidey
00:01 <armabot> JJBean: Why do you say spank spidey?
00:01 <Sticky> np spidey...its a realy good service
00:01 <JJBean> #eliza i asked you to do somthing, NOW DO IT!
00:01 <armabot> JJBean: Why do you say that?
00:01 <spidey_> hm
00:01 <spidey_> now to set a static ip
00:01 <spidey_> brb
00:01 <JJBean> #eliza /me slaps eliza
00:01 <armabot> JJBean: Eliza? Hah! Please, continue.
00:01 <spidey_> i'ma keep changing it till i find one i want
00:01 <spidey_> :D
00:01 <JJBean> #eliza how you doing?
00:02 <armabot> JJBean: What do you think?
00:02 <Fonkay> #eliza fuck you
00:02 <armabot> Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex?
00:02 <JJBean> #eliza yes she is
00:02 <armabot> JJBean: Why do you say yes she is?
00:02 <Fonkay> #eliza you're a bitch
00:02 <armabot> Fonkay: Please, watch your tongue!
00:02 <JJBean> #eliza please stfu!
00:02 <armabot> JJBean: Why do you say stfu?
00:02 <JJBean> #eliza are you hot?
00:02 <armabot> JJBean: What do you think?
00:03 <JJBean> #eliza I dont think you are
00:03 <Your_mom_arma> armabot quote get 24
00:03 <armabot> JJBean: Why do you say you do not think i are?
00:03 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
00:03 <spidey_> luke-jr_, Lucifer_clone 
00:03 <spidey_> 'er
00:03 <spidey_> luke-jr_, 
00:03 <Your_mom_arma> ready to finish that game spidey?
00:03 <JJBean> armabot quote get 1
00:03 <armabot> JJBean: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
00:03 <spidey_> not yet
00:03 <spidey_> need lukes help with something
00:04  * JJBean smells pumpkin
00:04 <Your_mom_arma> oh
00:04  * JJBean leaves
00:04 -!- JJBean [n=irc4u@S010600045acfc6b0.vn.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:04  * Your_mom_arma has yet to finish a game (excluding the one with the spaceship)
00:04 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar is now known as MacGyver
00:07 <Your_mom_arma> so only 2 teams in the 5th ladle?
00:08 <MaZuffeR> 3
00:08 <Your_mom_arma> how does that work?
00:08 <spidey_> anyone know how to find the ip ranges a isp uses
00:08 <spidey_> like a list or something
00:08 <Your_mom_arma> what for?
00:08 -!- spidey [i=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
00:09 <spidey_> so i can set a static ip of my choosing
00:09 <spidey_> well
00:09 <spidey_> try the ones i want till i find one not being used
00:13 <Vanhayes> #list alias
00:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, unlock, and wikipedia
00:13 <Vanhayes> #ircstats
00:13 <armabot> http://www.electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
00:15 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["-"]
00:16 <Vanhayes> #seen DRaTRePuS
00:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: I have not seen DRaTRePuS.
00:17 -!- spidey__ [n=spidey@68-114-141-224.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
00:17 <spidey__> #last --nolimit
00:17 -!- spidey__ is now known as spidey
00:17 <armabot> spidey__: [00:15:54] <Vanhayes> #seen DRaTRePuS, [00:12:12] <Vanhayes> #ircstats, [00:11:59] <Vanhayes> #list alias, [00:08:26] <spidey_> try the ones i want till i find one not being used, [00:08:17] <spidey_> well, [00:08:03] <spidey_> so i can set a static ip of my choosing, [00:07:45] <Your_mom_arma> what for?, [00:07:39] <spidey_> like a list or something, [00:07:33] <spidey_> anyone know how to find the ip (50 more messages)
00:18 -!- Sticky [n=Sticky@80-47-38-9.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"]
00:19 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p5087420E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
00:21 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["Cause he fucking says so"]
00:23 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
00:23 <Lucifer_clone> goddamn it
00:23 <spidey> no
00:23 -!- Lucifer_clone is now known as Lucifer_arma
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> godfuckingmuthershitassdamn it
00:24 <ghableska> hello there
00:24 <Your_mom_arma> haha
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> hi ghableska 
00:24 <ghableska> hi Lucifer_arma
00:24 <Your_mom_arma> what happened?
00:24 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, what'd you break?
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> it's 5:30 and I just woke up
00:25 <spidey> hahaha;'
00:25 <ghableska> when did you go to bed?
00:25 <Your_mom_arma> haha
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> so, you know how you press snooze on your alarm and then lay down and sleep a little longer?
00:25 <ghableska> Heh.
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> what happens if your power goes out after you've done that?
00:25 <ghableska> ooh
00:25 <Your_mom_arma> haha
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm like Newton's first law.  An object awake tends to stay awake, and an object asleep tends to stay asleep (unless an outside force acts upon it).
00:26 <ghableska> haha
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> that means no freeciv for me tonight, among other things
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> so if you guys waant to resume lst night's game, you're going to have to ai me
00:30 -!- Van-hayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034194169.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
00:30 -!- spidey_ [n=spidey@68-114-141-224.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:31 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
00:31 <Vanhayes> Hello
00:31 -!- Van-hayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034194169.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Client Quit]
00:31 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@a0204.upc-a.chello.nl] has left #armagetron []
00:33 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
00:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
00:34 -!- MacGyver [n=pso@84-73-22-151.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["leaving"]
00:36 <Vanhayes> #seen macgyver
00:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: I have not seen macgyver.
00:37 <ghableska> o.0
00:40 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
00:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
00:40 <Vanhayes> bah
00:40 <Vanhayes> armabot: do you suck?
00:40 <armabot> no
00:40 <Vanhayes> heh
00:41 <ghableska> armabot: hi
00:41 <ghableska> ...
00:44 -!- Niii [n=Niii@lnr56-1-82-246-48-71.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Quitte"]
00:44 <Your_mom_arma> armabot hello
00:44 <armabot> Hello Your_mom_arma :) Random Fortune: Tourists -- have some fun with New York's hard-boiled cabbies. When you || get to your destination, say to your driver, "Pay? I was hitch-hiking." || -- David Letterman
00:44 <ghableska> armabot hello
00:44 <armabot> Hello ghableska :) Random Fortune: "It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but || the result's the same." || - Mike Dennison
00:45 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:45 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 55.4°F (4:54 PM CST on November 05, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa. 
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
00:49 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 71.4°F (5:45 PM CST on November 05, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa. 
00:49 <Vanhayes> armabot: this is me asking a question?
00:49 <ghableska> heh.
00:50 <ghableska> #armabot this is me asking a question?
00:50 <armabot> ghableska: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
00:50 <ghableska> #armabot is this late enough?
00:50 <armabot> ghableska: _I_ don't know.
00:51 <Vanhayes> armabot Do you blah blah?
00:51 <armabot> no
00:52 <ghableska> armabot: are you sure about that?
00:52 <ghableska> armabot are you sure about that?
00:52 <ghableska> ...
00:53 <Vanhayes> armabot Do you blah blah?
00:53 <armabot> no
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> #do
00:53 <armabot> no
00:55 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-40-251.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
00:59 <Vanhayes> #AM
00:59 <Vanhayes> #Can
00:59 <Vanhayes> # do dee do do
00:59 <armabot> no
00:59 <ghableska> #help
00:59 <Your_mom_arma> #help do
00:59 <armabot> ghableska: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
00:59 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: (do <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo no".
01:00 <Vanhayes> #help #
01:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no command "#".
01:00 <Vanhayes> #list alias
01:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, unlock, and wikipedia
01:00 <Vanhayes> meh
01:00 <Vanhayes> #night
01:00 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
01:00 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034194169.nb.aliant.net] has quit [""Quit/Exited/Left/Went Away/Hit the Little X button/Slipped and hit his head off the keyboard, miracuosly hitting the shift a]
01:01 <ghableska> that's new
01:10 <madmax|pt> #later tell Vanhayes that quit message doesnt fit, ends on "...shift a"
01:10 <armabot> madmax|pt: The operation succeeded.
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> http://nukegingrich.wordpress.com/files/2006/11/irak.jpg
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> man, kerry is such an idiot
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> he must have gone to school on Republican educational policies
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> the best thing he could do right now is say "get a good education so you don't end up stooopid like me"
01:22 <madmax|pt> gnight
01:22 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has quit ["leaving"]
01:27 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
01:27 <spidey> DEFCON?
01:27 <spidey> grr
01:27 <spidey> defcon always enables my caps lock
01:54 <Commn> defcon
01:54 <Commn> doh
01:54 <Commn> that was 30 mins ago
01:54 <Commn> spidey?
02:05 <spidey> ?
02:11 <Commn> defcon?
02:37 <spidey> not right now =p
02:37 <spidey> luke-jr_, luke-jr_ 
02:37 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
02:37 <spidey> ping ping
02:37 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 56.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Wind: SSE at 8 mph (13 km/h).
02:38 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 53.6°F (6:54 PM CST on November 05, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa. 
02:38 <spidey> #cnn 38256
02:38 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 54.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Wind: ESE at 3 mph (5 km/h).
02:38 <ghableska> that can't be right
02:38 <spidey> ?
02:38 <ghableska> its definitely not colder there :P
02:39 <spidey> says so
02:39 <spidey> #weather 38256
02:39 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 52.7°F (7:39 PM CST on November 05, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa. 
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> windchill
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> I don't see wind in ghableska's, but spidey's is 3mph
02:39 <spidey> luci
02:40 <spidey> test something
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> #something
02:40 <ghableska> it's 8 mph
02:40 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, http://fallin-angels.net
02:40 <spidey> that load?
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> yes
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> blue box, etc.
02:40 <spidey> gay
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> gay republican?
02:41 <spidey> well
02:41 <spidey> wtf
02:41 <spidey> it loads now for me to
02:41 <spidey> o.O
02:41 <spidey> few minutes ago it didn't
02:41 <spidey> then i used the ip
02:41 <spidey> that worked
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, the wiki doesn't load either :(
02:41 <spidey> tried the domain again and it worked
02:41 <spidey> o.O
02:42 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, atleast your isp's dns servers are so shitty they malfunctioned today
02:42 <spidey> i couldn't load any domain
02:42 <spidey> no matter what it was
02:42 <spidey> unless i had it cached
02:42 <spidey> so i changed the dns servers to  two sticky gave me now everything works
02:42 <spidey> =p
02:43 <spidey> hmm
02:44 <spidey> i think when my brother gets out instead of using some of hist check to get 2 dedicated servers we're gonna use some to get a 6mb dsl connection
02:44 <Commn> doh
02:44 <spidey> it's way more stable than my cable
02:44 <spidey> so i can run servers on it :D
02:44 <Commn> clear your dns cache 
02:44 <Commn> or turn your dns cache on
02:44  * Commn has trouble with dns too
02:44 <spidey> ...
02:44 <Commn> dns requests take forever
02:44 <spidey> i don't
02:44 <spidey> not anymore
02:44 <spidey> changed my dns servers
02:45 <Commn> ah
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> gets out of what?  prison?
02:45 <spidey> kiddy prison
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> did he jack someone's shit?
02:45 <spidey> for now the state gets his $650 check o.O
02:46 <spidey> yes
02:46 <spidey> my grandmas car
02:46 <spidey> twice
02:46 <spidey> ran away
02:46 <spidey> 3 times
02:46 <ghableska> O_o
02:46 <spidey> his grandmas van once
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  your brother's a punk?  :)
02:46 <spidey> yes
02:46 <Commn> you should beat him with a bat
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> is he older than you?
02:46 <spidey> everytime he goes in there he says he's gonna whoop my ass cause he's "hardcore" now
02:46 <Commn> haha
02:47 <spidey> he gets out then tries and when he fails he just hits the ground cring don't hit me
02:47 <spidey> :))
02:47 <spidey> he's 15
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> you're not hardcore until you do federal time
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> does he have a teardrop tattoo?
02:47 <spidey> ooh he will
02:47 <spidey> before he's 21
02:47 <spidey> i garuntee it
02:47 <spidey> no
02:47 <spidey> lol
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> does he like men yet?
02:48 <Commn> does he have the rape tattoo on his back?
02:48 <Commn> hehe
02:48 <spidey> haha
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, apparently he needs to talk to my wife.  Her friends went to jail, but she always managed to escape, heh.
02:49 <spidey> haha
02:49 <spidey> well
02:49 <spidey> get this
02:49 <Commn> the part is not getting caught when you are stealing a vehicle
02:49 <Commn>  ;p
02:49 <spidey> before my mom started letting ~me~ smoke
02:49 <spidey> he would steal cigarettes from a store
02:49 <spidey> they had that little sale bucket infront of the counter
02:50 <spidey> he went in got a pack, ran out as fast as he could and yelled "HE SAW ME RUN!"
02:50 <spidey> that guy didn't even see him 
02:50 <spidey> rofl
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> he's pretty fly for a white guy
02:50 <spidey> he's always the one that gets busted
02:50 <spidey> except that one time
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I got busted finally
02:51 <spidey> i spent 1 week cleaning my system out cause my mom busted him high
02:51 <spidey> and was giving us a drug test
02:51 <spidey> he passed i failed
02:51 <spidey> they got the tests mixed up =|
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> they got me for my inspection sticker (I'm a petty criminal most of the time because I don't do the stupid paperwork for my car)
02:51 <spidey> lol
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> and then my buddy ran out of inspection stickers and couldn't give me one.  Grrr........
02:53 <Commn> how much was the ticket?
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> so did you ask your brother what they call an incompetent criminal?
02:53 <Commn> Lucifer_arma : how much was the ticket?
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't paid it yet, I just got is a couple of days ago
02:53 <spidey> no
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> they got me for no insurance, but I have insurance, my wife just threw away the new card when she thought she was going to a different company
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: they call hiim "bitch"  :)
02:53 <spidey> lol
02:54 <DrJoeTron> ok spidey
02:54 <DrJoeTron> lets play mother fucking defcon
02:54 <spidey> gimme 5 minutes?
02:54 <DrJoeTron> deal
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> so he either needs to figure out he's an incompetent criminal and straighten up, or become competent
02:58 <Commn> i'll play ;p
02:58 <spidey> ok mr joe
02:58 <Commn> Lucifer_arma : you still havent said how much it was ;p
02:58 <spidey> i'm ready :D
02:59 <DrJoeTron> ko
02:59 <DrJoeTron> im on ts
02:59 <Commn> where
02:59 <DrJoeTron> my ts server
02:59 <Commn> whats ip?
02:59 <Commn> just your ip?
02:59 <DrJoeTron> nah its an actual server
03:00 <Commn> what ip?
03:00 <DrJoeTron> password is option
03:00 <Commn> ehe
03:00 <Commn> ooo
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> $151
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> I had to go out to my car and get the ticket
03:00 <Commn> cant connect ;\
03:01 <Commn> oh , you werent pulled over
03:01 <spidey> pwned
03:01 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i'm the fee collecter
03:01 <spidey> xD
03:01 <DrJoeTron>
03:01 <DrJoeTron> well we both made it
03:02 <DrJoeTron> just doa  quick connect
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> I was pulled over
03:02 <spidey> Commn, DrJoeTron didn't know you was kamakazi
03:02 <ghableska> haha
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> the guy saw the sticker and we played a mini cat and mouse game, but I didn't take the opportunity for a longer cat and mouse game
03:03 <DrJoeTron> or Commn look up Des Plaines Chat Hole\
03:03 <spidey> lol
03:03 <DrJoeTron> no \
03:04 <DrJoeTron> make sure to put the port on :L
03:04 <spidey> Commn, you using the port?
03:05 <Commn> hmm
03:05 <Commn> yea
03:05 <DrJoeTron> you need the password
03:05 <spidey> you using the password?
03:05 <spidey> what's the error you get?
03:05 <DrJoeTron> if the error says "too cool for school"
03:06 <DrJoeTron> then well
03:06 <DrJoeTron> y'know
03:06 <spidey> lol
03:06 <Commn> i just upgraded
03:06 <Commn> lol
03:06 <Commn> where is the manual connect?
03:06 <spidey> ?
03:06 <spidey> connection
03:06 <DrJoeTron> just upgraded?
03:06 <DrJoeTron> its teamspeak 2
03:07 <Commn> err?
03:07 <Commn> defcon?
03:07 <DrJoeTron> team speak
03:07 <Commn> you guys are playing defcon right?
03:07 <Commn> oh lol
03:07 <spidey> going to
03:07 <Commn> you want me on teamspeak?
03:07 <spidey> www.goteamspeak.org
03:07 <Commn> i dont have a good mik
03:08 <spidey> so
03:08 <DrJoeTron> neither does spidey 
03:08 <spidey> =/
03:08 <Commn> ok ok :)
03:08 <Commn> wrong url spidey
03:08 <Commn> .com
03:08 <spidey> heh
03:10 <spidey> ?
03:11 <DrJoeTron> come on!
03:11 <Commn> installing now
03:11 <Commn> lo
03:11 <Commn> l
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03:15 <Commn> lol
03:15 <Commn> how do i talk in teamspeak?
03:15 <Your_mom_arma> set it to press to talk
03:15 <Commn> press?
03:17 <Commn> what do i press i mena
03:18 <Your_mom_arma> you have to set that up yourself
03:18 <Your_mom_arma> settings-> sound input settings
03:18 <spidey> Commn, setup a takl keu
03:18 <spidey> key
03:19 <Your_mom_arma> then check the box for set to talk and then hit set and pick the key you want to use
03:19 <Commn> ok i did that
03:19 <Commn> can anyone hear me ?
03:20 <spidey> no
03:20 <spidey> try again
03:21 <[NP]Tangent> #insult spidey
03:21 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a full-gorged plate of infected puke. 
03:21 <Commn> lol
03:21 <spidey> :|
03:21 <spidey> >:|
03:21 <Commn> i cant figure this ahahhaa
03:21 <Commn> my mic works
03:21 <spidey> ....
03:21 <ghableska> #insult armabot
03:21 <Commn> and i set ctrl to press to talk
03:21 <armabot> armabot - You are nothing but a frothy thimbleful of motley-mind bug. 
03:21 <Commn> but no audio 
03:22 <DrJoeTron> did you enable your microphone?
03:22 <Commn> how to do that?>
03:24 <Commn> windows
03:24 <Commn> wtf?
03:24 <Commn> teamspeak 2?
03:24 <Commn> lol
03:25 <Commn> ya 
03:25 <Commn> it works i can hear myself
03:25 <Commn> where is the test?
03:25 <spidey> o.O
03:25 <Commn> i tried that
03:25 <Commn> i hear myself
03:25 <Commn> hmm?
03:26 <DrJoeTron> exit the test
03:26 <DrJoeTron> and try talking normaly
03:26 <DrJoeTron> while holding the button down
03:26 <DrJoeTron> actually fuck it
03:26 <Commn> haha
03:26 <Commn> i did exit the test
03:26 <DrJoeTron> put it on voice activation now
03:26 <Commn> maybe my microphone is in line out
03:27 <Commn> i did that 
03:27 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:27 <Commn> just nothing ;\
03:28 <Commn> i am holding it lol
03:28 <Commn> and releasing
03:28 <Commn> i know how a walkie talkie works man
03:28 <spidey> rofl!!
03:28 <spidey> yes
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03:28 <spidey> and not a number or letter key
03:28 <spidey> use the left or right ctrl key
03:28 <JJBean> Hi everbody
03:28 <spidey> who are you?
03:28 <Your_mom_arma> hi
03:29 <JJBean> I r me?
03:29 <JJBean> #eliza who am i?
03:29 <armabot> JJBean: What do you think?
03:29 <spidey> mom
03:29 <spidey> play defcon with us
03:29 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
03:30 <Your_mom_arma> does commn have a demo client
03:30 <spidey> warez
03:30 <spidey> his version's not legitimat =p
03:30 <JJBean> what kind of a game is defcon?
03:31 <Your_mom_arma> stratagie
03:31 <spidey> where joe go
03:31 <JJBean> like a war game? or kind of like chess?
03:31 <Your_mom_arma> war
03:31 <Commn> dunno
03:31 <Commn> ok i got my mic in the stupid hole
03:31 <Commn> now i hear myself
03:32 <Commn> but still no green light
03:32 <Commn> did voice activation
03:32 <Commn> no light
03:32 <Commn> yes i talked
03:33 <Commn> hehe
03:33 <Commn> no, i'm completly retarded
03:33 <JJBean> anyone have a link to site about defcon?
03:33 <Your_mom_arma> #google defcon game
03:33 <spidey> DrJoeTron, ping
03:34 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Search took 0.15 seconds: DEFCON (computer game ) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFCON_(computer_game)>; 3D Gamers :: Game Listing :: DEFCON Info: <http://www.3dgamers.com/games/defcon/>; DEFCON : Headquarters -- Strategy Informer: <http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/defcon/>; IGN: DEFCON: <http://pc.ign.com/objects/802/802997.html>; CNN - DefCon 99: Games (2 more messages)
03:34 <Your_mom_arma> #more
03:34 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: hackers play - July 13, 1999: <http://www.defcon.org/html/links/dc_press/archives/7/cnn_gameshackersplay.htm>; Interview - Defcon // PC /// Eurogamer: <http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62477>; DefCon - PC Games - Video Game Review - Yahoo! Video Games: <http://videogames.yahoo.com/gamereview?cid=1951444566&tab=reviews&page=0&eid=485546>; War Games : Defcon 1 : Reviews, Preview, (1 more message)
03:34 <JJBean> thanks
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03:35 <Your_mom_arma> well, found the fire alarm
03:35 <Commn> i'm trying all of those
03:36 <JJBean> so its almost like risk
03:36 <Your_mom_arma> yeah, kinda sorta
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03:41 <Commn> shit
03:41 <Commn> it wont lemme play demo
03:41 <Commn> some demo is already on
03:41 <Commn> hehe
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03:41 <Commn> full wont work
03:42 <Commn> someone is using the same full key
03:42 <JJBean> dinnar time
03:42  * JJBean afk
03:45 <spidey> rofl
03:45 <spidey> not me
03:45 <spidey> what's the auth key??
03:46 <Commn> guys
03:46 <Commn> it hates me
03:46 <spidey> Commn, 
03:46 <Commn> it wont lemme on
03:46 <Commn> go for it
03:46 <Commn> ok auth one sec
03:48 <Commn> demouo-papgag-rofoho-pjclhn-upo
03:48 <Commn> i think
03:48 <spidey> no
03:48 <spidey> that's the demo client
03:48 <spidey> the warez cliet
03:48 <spidey> what's the authkey?
03:49 <Commn> hmm
03:49 <Commn> thought it was warez
03:49 <spidey> 'demo'
03:49 <spidey> =p
03:49 <Commn> oh it reset
03:49 <spidey> lol
03:51 <Commn> ok lol
04:10 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
04:10 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 53.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Wind: SSE at 10 mph (16 km/h).
04:13  * ghableska yawns
04:14  * Your_mom_arma hands ghableska a cup of coffee
04:14  * ghableska looks at cup suspiciously
04:18 <JJBean> #time
04:18 <armabot> JJBean: 04:17 AM, November 06, 2006
04:18 <ghableska> heh
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04:32 <DrJoeTr0n> chaireo africa
04:35 <spidey> no
04:35 <spidey> cheero
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04:39 <DrJoeTr0n> www.trackmanianations.com
04:43 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.mininova.org/tor/210957
04:44 <ghableska> virtual skipper has nice-looking oceans
04:45 <ghableska> #night
04:45 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:51 <Your_mom_arma> fortress is the work of the devil!!
04:51 <spidey> luci?
04:52 <DrJoeTr0n> fonk
04:52 <DrJoeTr0n> tight sluts
04:54 <Commn> lala?
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05:28 <Lucifer_arma> fortress was just the idea of the devil, z-man did the work
05:35 <DrJoeTr0n> you burn for that!
05:42 <DrJoeTr0n> spidey
05:42 <DrJoeTr0n> get back on
05:43 <DrJoeTr0n> its trackmania time
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06:40 <Lucifer_arma> Mandriva would never let me down, they've gotta have a working xfce
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> did anybody go over to the wiki and just click ads?
06:42  * Lucifer_arma notes a big spike in ad revenue on a day the wiki was down for most
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06:58 <spidey> luke-jr_, 
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: ...
06:58 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ...
06:58 <Your_mom_arma> Your_mom_arma: ....
06:58 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ...
06:59 <spidey> mkzelda, ...
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> I'm so happy I can finally log out of my computer
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> what do you want Your_mom_arma ... jeez leave me alone
06:59 <spidey> lol
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> so luci what happened to your server(earlier)? more bad things
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> power outage
07:00 <Your_mom_arma> oh yeah
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> however, if today's ad revenue on the wiki isn't just a spike from people wanting to help out by clicking randomly, it looks like we'll have a solution
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> $12.11
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's only one day, of course, when we need 3-4 weeks of data
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> but if we hold around $10/day on average, that'll get us a nice 64-bit server somewhere that can even host a couple of game servers
07:02 <spidey> those ad click thingies
07:02 <spidey> i thought of putting those on mine awhile back
07:02 <spidey> then totally forgot about it xD
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> the catch is, it has to be sustainable, and frauding the system isn't sustainable, so I really don't want people clicking just to make us money.  Click 'cause you're interested in the product, right?  :)
07:03 <spidey> nah
07:03 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: ?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> you figure out who you're for on Tuesday?  :)
07:03 <GodTodd> i think i'm going bell for governor
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> governor's elected at large, right?
07:05 <GodTodd> not sure
07:05 <GodTodd> heh
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'm pretty sure he is.  Doing it by county would be dumb, since counties have very little legal standing anyway
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, this is Texas, the land of the free and the home of the dumb
07:05 <GodTodd> yeah...i think it is overall
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> I hope so.  :)  I'd hate to think all the stupid conservatives in Williamson County were able to override my one and only really smart, well-thout-out vote
07:06 <GodTodd> thought*
07:06 <GodTodd> heh
07:06 <GodTodd> :P
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> the voting place is on the way to school, and my registration card is on the shelf in front of me, and Bell might win, so I'm completely out of excuses to avoid it this time
07:07 <GodTodd> afaik all you need is picture id
07:07 <GodTodd> that's what karen said anywho
07:08 <GodTodd> my polling place is right across the street from here :)
07:08 <GodTodd> i'll be taking a trig test then going to vote
07:09 <GodTodd> 31 and never voted....is that sad or something?
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4311290.html
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, all you should need is a picture id.  It has to be one they can cross-reference somehow, of course
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> so a texas-issued picture ID is best
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> that page makes Friedman look like the better candidate
07:13 <GodTodd> it does
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> I noticed it missing a lot of things Bell has on his website, like deploying the national guard to the border (but it mentions Friedman wanting to do that)
07:13 <GodTodd> but then there's the issue of needing someone who can talk the legislature into a lot of these things
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> it also completely ignores Bell wanting windfarms and other texan-owned alternate power sources
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> well then, we better try to send up the best reps we can, now shouldn't we?  :)
07:14 <Your_mom_arma> i'ld vote for bell
07:14 <GodTodd> well...is it a liberal or conservative paper?
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> usually liberal
07:14 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's the Houston Chronicle
07:14 <GodTodd> that's strange
07:14 <Your_mom_arma> typical liberal media
07:14 <GodTodd> yeah...not really familiar with its politics tho
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> it usually sides with the democrats, although the last presidential election it didn't really take a side and just took swipes at everybody
07:15 <GodTodd> heh
07:15 <GodTodd> was easy to do ;)
07:15  * Lucifer_arma isn't a regular reader of the houston chronicle, just stumbles across a lot of interesting stuff that's there
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> lets all vote green party
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> you've never been in Texas, hae you?  :)
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> haha no
07:16  * Lucifer_arma notices there's no green anywhere around here
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> didn't we run the Green Party ot of the state?
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> its all democrats here... including me
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I kind of like the Green Party, and I"d like to see them get some congressional seats.  I don't want them in power, I just want them in there as a check against the others.
07:17 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
07:17 <Your_mom_arma> the whole 2 party goverment is pretty sad
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  I don't want the kind of partisan shit that happens in a coalition government, but I would like to see the folks in power have to satisfy some of the smaller groups to get shit done
07:18 <Your_mom_arma> your either a conservative republican or a liberal democrat, no middle ground (or at least very little)
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'm somewhere in there.  :)  I like the conservative democrats and the liberal republicans, but like you say, there aren't that many of them
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> and a lot of them turn libertarian/green
07:20  * Lucifer_arma notes that Texas is one of a handful of states that periodically elects libertarians
07:24 <GodTodd> http://media.myfoxdfw.com/KDFWMISC/Elections/candidatequiz.html
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> Friedman has also offended blacks, in one case by suggesting that all the worthwhile people among the mostly black evacuees from New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina last year had already returned home, leaving Texas with what he described as "the crackheads and the thugs." 
07:27 <Your_mom_arma> ouch
07:28 <spidey> heh
07:29 <GodTodd> ahahah...that quiz said i should vote for bell
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> me too
07:30 <GodTodd> :)
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> why did you have to link to a page that starts up a movie?
07:30 <GodTodd> i see him as a more paletteable friedman
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> palatable?
07:31 <GodTodd> did it?
07:31 <GodTodd> oh...yeah...the video archives
07:31 <GodTodd> heh
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, and apparently the sound on my laptop was turned all the way up
07:31 <GodTodd> oops
07:31 <GodTodd> i always mute mine unless i *really* want to hear something
07:32  * GodTodd pictures Lucifer_arma jumping when the sound started.
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07:32 <Your_mom_arma> hi
07:34 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: and, yeah, i meant palatable :P  decided to channel spidey for a moment there
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> hiya z-man
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> topic tonight's the texas governor race
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> election's on Tuesday, please make sure you vote early and often
07:35 <GodTodd> i'ma vote at least ten times
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I registered both my dead grandmother and my living grandmother, and on Tuesday I'm going to vote for both of them!
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I love living in a state ruled by Republicans :)
07:36 <spidey> lol
07:36 <spidey> cheaters
07:36 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:36 <GodTodd> the race i'm really keeping my eye on is that ag commissioner race
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> is that a joke, or are you serious?
07:37 <z-man> vote often?
07:37 <spidey> "cheaters"
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> yes!  I registered you for you, as moos1, moos2, moos3, and moo_
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> you should have received your absentee ballot in the mail
07:37 <GodTodd> heh i have more weeds than grass in my yard...you really think i give a flying fuck who is ag commissioner? ;)
07:37 <GodTodd> haha
07:38 <GodTodd> i'ma vote for todd staples cuz i like his name
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a vote for Werner 'cause he's the devil
07:38 <GodTodd> heh werner sounds more off the wall than friedman
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> he's pretty cooky, that's for sure
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> *kookie
07:39 <GodTodd> or kooky
07:39 <GodTodd> not sure of the preferred spelling heh
07:39 <GodTodd> mmmmmm cookie
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> he's just not likely to win.  Maybe if the Texas government were outright owned by Haliburton...
07:40 <GodTodd> then i'd have more money, i'm sure :P
07:40 <GodTodd> or at least more perks
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> even Friedman's crackheads and thugs have more sense than to vote for that guy
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07:41 <GodTodd> heh the katrina people for the most part piss me off
07:41 <GodTodd> not all but a lot of them
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm pretty much decided that I'm voting for bell, and next time Friedman runs he better make sure he doesn't say anything stupid
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, my own experiences have been a bit different with the Katrina folks around here
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> it's almost like we finally have black people in our state that don't hate white people
07:42 <GodTodd> well...all i know of them is the people that kept whining because the free housing money was going to stop and "what are we going to do?!?!" a year after the storm
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> heh, yeah, they'd be pretty irritating
07:42 <GodTodd> sounds like you guys got the good ones :P
07:42 <GodTodd> heh
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> my son got a Katrina kid in his class last semester, and the parents found jobs and got established and are doing fine
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> I've run into a few Katrina kids at school, and they're pulling better grades than most ACC kids :)
07:43 <GodTodd> yeah...and a bunch up here did the same...those people are fine by me
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> *last year (my son's class, that is)
07:43 <GodTodd> i could get a job in a year easy....i'm just not really looking right now ;)
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, the girl from that family that was in my son's class developed a nice little crush on the boy
07:44 <GodTodd> heh
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, they found professional jobs, even, which can easily have 6-12 month negotiations and stuff
07:45 <GodTodd> yeah...but most of those types of companies tried to hurry it as much as possible knowing that they were living on borrowed money
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> we kinda slipped them some cash and some school supplies.  They're good people.  If all the Katrina evacuees are like them, then I'm happy to have them here.
07:45 <GodTodd> definitely
07:45 <GodTodd> but not all are unfortunately
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07:46 <Lucifer_arma> yeha, but what's another crackhead in Austin but another drop in the ocean?
07:46 <GodTodd> heh...a UT student, i'd wager ;)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> dooooood, I'm gonna take fencing next semester!
07:46 <GodTodd> yeah
07:46 <GodTodd> so i heard
07:47 <spidey> fencing?
07:47 <GodTodd> i might try to cram precal into wintermester :/
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> aka the ancient art of swordfighting
07:47 <spidey> with those long pointy swords and those white dresses?
07:47 <spidey> rofl =p
07:47 <GodTodd> it's pants...but Lucifer_arma just wants to poke dudes with his sword :)
07:47 <spidey> lol
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> forget that, I want to learn how to behead people with one stroke!
07:48 <GodTodd> fencing won't teach you that
07:48 <GodTodd> just to poke their bellybutton
07:48 <spidey> the swords even bend
07:48 <spidey> all the way around
07:48 <GodTodd> it's a foil, iirc
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> nah, you get points for different targets
07:48 <spidey> that's not sword fighting!
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> well of course spidey, it's been turned into a sport
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> but if you can fence with a fencing foil, you can damn well fence with a real sword
07:49 <GodTodd> now if they break out the broadswords then call me in
07:49 <spidey> i like ninja sword thingies
07:49 <spidey> those look cool xD
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> that's not fencing!  That's just swinging hoping luck is on your side
07:49 <GodTodd> and beheading with one stroke :P
07:49 <spidey> lol
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> I'll need to get a black hat and a black mask for this
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll bbiab, I want to fool with xfce
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> I've been wanting to fool with xfce for some time now, I really hope Mandriva gave me a functional build where Kubuntu and Gentoo didn't
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08:23 <spidey> z-man, defcon? =p
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08:29 <z-man> spidey: no, gotta go to work.
08:29 <spidey> k
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08:57 <Lucifer_arma> #g 40 euros in USD
08:57 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 40 Euros = 50.87200 U.S. dollars
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10:45 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: just sent you a pm with the donation info
10:45 <guru3> don't need to run it through a program to tell you\
10:45 <guru3> we're not getting 150 a month
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> I want to see if I can get a function for it that I can combine with the ad stuff
10:50 <guru3> good luck :>
10:51 <guru3> we should put up bets on when the next one will come in
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> thanks, though.   ods will work, it can export however I need it.  :)  Now if I can just figure this damn program out... (not oo, the other one)
10:52 <guru3> ><
10:52 <guru3> a realistic function for dontations
10:52 <guru3> would be
10:52 <guru3> y=0
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> you're right, that isn't much
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> hearing people talk, I'd gotten the impression there were regular teeny tiny donations
10:53 <guru3> buahaha no
10:53 <guru3> wish there were
10:54 <guru3> instead there are random eccentric people
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> I don't need a program to tell me this one, it's f(x) = rnd
10:55 <guru3> yeah
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's $12.11 in advertising for yesterday, heh
10:56 <guru3> that's way better :o
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> I kind of suspect some foul play in it, though
10:56 <guru3> better than no play :<
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> we'll have to see.  The whole reason I wanted a month of data was to level out spikes, and that might be just a spike
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> if it's not, though, wiki problems go away pretty quickly :)
10:58 <guru3> if it was a constant $12 a day
10:58 <guru3> could easily afford hosting
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> hosting of the variety I posted, and the serious consideration of moving the main website to it so we can put ads there
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> the forums, being dynamic by nature, may not do well with ads, but the main website should do pretty well, since it's a lot more than just arma regulars for traffic
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> but don't get dollar-signs in your eyes yet, let's wait for all the data to come in :)
11:26 <guru3> dollar signs aren't what's in my eyes
11:26 <guru3> it's nice hosting that is :>
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11:39 <[dlh]> xtmate
11:39 <[dlh]> oops
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> :)
12:21 <Lucifer_arma> (that smile was for guru3, anyway)
12:24 <guru3> lol :)
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14:40 <guru3> :O
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15:10 <guru3> don't tell me this is going to happen randomly all the time
15:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok
15:12 <Lucifer_arma> someone told me once "You're a blasphemer!".  I said "Oh yeah?  You're a pelvis!"
15:14 <guru3> Oo
15:59  * luke-jr_ is now officially operating at a loss
16:01 <guru3> :o
16:03 <wrtlprnft> fix your servers
16:03 <wrtlprnft> they're a pain to play on. Not usuable for the ladle, anyways
16:04 <luke-jr_> that's imaginary
16:04 <luke-jr_> (vanhayes told me to say that)
16:04 <wrtlprnft> no.
16:04 <luke-jr_> no? then why does everyone refuse to send me a recording with it?
16:04 <luke-jr_> not to mention it's always fine when I'm there...
16:04 <wrtlprnft> i'll make you one next time there's a lot of players there
16:05 <luke-jr_> it'll need to be before the 30th
16:05 <wrtlprnft> ?
16:05 <luke-jr_> that's when Legit's service is over
16:05 <wrtlprnft> i was thinking about the team challenge server
16:06 <luke-jr_> o
16:06 <luke-jr_> well, haven't heard any problems w/ that
16:06 <wrtlprnft> ?!
16:06 <wrtlprnft> read the server logs from yesterday
16:06 <luke-jr_> and it's a totally different host
16:06 <wrtlprnft> we were 16 players and had already started playing
16:06 <wrtlprnft> but then had to leave because it was just unplayable
16:07 <luke-jr_> I'd say that if both US and Europe hosts have some problem that no other servers do, it's something wrong with Arma or Virtuozzo
16:07 <luke-jr_> unplayable how? I play on my CTF relatively frequently
16:07 <wrtlprnft> just half-second lag periods sometimes
16:07 <luke-jr_> and while my ping does spike to 800-1000, it does that on *any* server and is fixed by reconnected (thus I conclude an ISP bug)
16:08 <luke-jr_> reconnecting*
16:19 <wrtlprnft> ok, sent away the order for my root server. Let's see how unlaggy it is :)
16:19 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: if you don't find a solution for the wiki I could host it, I'll have unlimited bandwidth and tons of space :)
16:21 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: the php accelerator seems to have reduced cpu load quite a bit, my wife hasn't been complaining.
16:22 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: i'd like to host a resource repository mirror in some way, too, to make it more reliable. Just need to get arma to support space-seperated server lists in the RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_* settings to allow for multiple hosts to be tried until one is found that hosts the map. This would also mean that we don't need immediate propagation of maps
16:22 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: ok then :)
16:22 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: which in turn means we can just use rsync
16:22 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: I'd kinda like to not have dumped a reasonable solution until after I've finished collecting the advertising data :)
16:25 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: ok :)
16:26 <wrtlprnft> anyways, if any devs want to host testing/debugging servers I'd be happy to give them an account.
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18:35 <luke-jr_work> z-man, hi
18:39 <z-man> hey, I think I found out how to get my laptop's soundcard survive suspend/resume :)
18:39 <z-man> I just need to shut down alsa a bit before issuing the sleep.
18:39 <z-man> #notes
18:39 <armabot> z-man: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *josh*, Nickserv, one*, operserv, someone, unknown, and Vanhayes.
18:39 <z-man> hmm, kde seems unimpressed, though. No beep.
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18:42 <z-man> #notes
18:42 <armabot> z-man: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *josh*, Nickserv, one*, operserv, someone, unknown, and Vanhayes.
18:44 <z-man> #notes
18:44 <armabot> z-man: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *josh*, Nickserv, one*, operserv, someone, unknown, and Vanhayes.
18:52 <luke-jr_work> heh
18:52 <luke-jr_work> my laptop will drain the battery in 4 hours asleep
18:53 <z-man> who says I have it on battery while it sleeps? I use it as a convenient way for not having to boot it up :)
18:54 <z-man> still no sound from KDE, grr. The sound test produces something audible, but no real thing works. All mixer settings seem to be non-muted. Any ideas?
18:57 <luke-jr_work> why else would you sleep it?
18:57 <luke-jr_work> or turn it off for that matter
18:58 <z-man> To conserve battery power while away from any outlets?
18:59 <luke-jr_work> "who says I have it on battery while it sleeps?"
18:59 <wrtlprnft> z-man: do non- artsd apps work?
18:59 <z-man> yes
19:00 <wrtlprnft> did you look at the sound options in kcontrol?
19:00 <z-man> sure, and there, the sound test works.
19:01 <z-man> I can't even get the system notifications working by telling them to use mplayer for playback :(
19:01 <z-man> kmixer works, though.
19:01 <[Xpert]DarkStar> evening
19:01 <wrtlprnft> z-man: heh, i'm using mplayer for that, too, and it works
19:02 <wrtlprnft> though looking at it KBounce doesn't make any sound here, either
19:02 <z-man> mplayer from the command line is working for me as well.
19:02 <z-man> you just have to enter /usr/bin/mplayer in the appropriate field, right?
19:02 <luke-jr_work> killall artsd <-- fixes a lot
19:03 <z-man> not for me :(
19:05  * z-man tries restarting kde
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19:15 <z-man> grr, no luck
19:15 <luke-jr_work> :|
19:15 <z-man> even a reboot didn´t help. Well, at least, that means it's probably unrelated to the sleep issues I had earlier.
19:17 <z-man> hmm, maybe USE=-arts has something to do with it? I had assumed apps that absolutely require arts would ignore it.
19:18 <luke-jr_work> ...
19:18 <luke-jr_work> they would
19:18 <luke-jr_work> but nothing absolutely requires arts
19:18 <luke-jr_work> arts is always optional
19:18 <luke-jr_work> but you don't get sound w/o it
19:19 <z-man> The mplayer workaround should be unaffected, though.
19:19 <z-man> But it isn't.
19:19 <z-man> Well, maybe it is unaffected, but it doesn't work anyway.
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19:21 <z-man> #notes
19:21 <armabot> z-man: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *josh*, Nickserv, one*, operserv, someone, unknown, and Vanhayes.
19:22 <z-man> Oh great, and under WinXP, I seem to have the choice between graphics drivers that crash while playing games and graphics drivers that crash right on boot. Isn't IT Tech great?
19:23 <luke-jr_work> lol
19:23 <luke-jr_work> well, I'd say your problems stem from bad hardware manufacterors
19:24 <luke-jr_work> they *should* be releasing license-unencumbered drivers with source
19:24 <z-man> Well, I admit, maybe I have slowly fried my hardware with insufficient cooling.
19:24 <z-man> For Windows? Yeah, right :)
19:25 <luke-jr_work> why?
19:26 <z-man> Why should they? The OS is closed tech, their hardware is closed tech, why not the driver as well?
19:26 <luke-jr_work> the driver is just glue between OS and hardware
19:27 <z-man> Ah, the even older driver didn't crash yet. To the game test!
19:27 <luke-jr_work> closing it only restricts their compatibility
19:28 <z-man> Err, how?
19:28 <luke-jr_work> ...
19:28 <luke-jr_work> how what?
19:29 <z-man> how does it restrict compatibility
19:29 <luke-jr_work> closing it fixes their compatibility to what their in-house developers do
19:29 <wrtlprnft> z-man: uh, i'm giving it /usr/bin/mplayer /path/to/soundfile
19:29 <luke-jr_work> binary API changes? drivers need to be changed
19:29 <luke-jr_work> PPC or ARM system? oh well
19:30 <luke-jr_work> you use BeOS? go to our competition I guess
19:30 <z-man> Umm, the Windows API is designed to be safe from binary changes.
19:31 <luke-jr_work> Windows NT for Alpha is binary compatible with Windows 98?
19:31 <luke-jr_work> for drivers??
19:31 <z-man> #notes
19:31 <armabot> z-man: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *josh*, Nickserv, one*, operserv, someone, unknown, and Vanhayes.
19:31 <z-man> yes, for drivers.
19:31 <z-man> oh, wait, not NT and 98
19:31 <z-man> but Windows 2000 can eat NT drivers if it has to.
19:33 <luke-jr_work> can NT non-x86 cat Win2k drivers?
19:33 <luke-jr_work> eat*
19:33 <guru3> cat lol
19:33 <z-man> No, but it probably also can't eat the hardware.
19:33 <z-man> Just recompiling the driver won't help.
19:33 <luke-jr_work> sure it can
19:33 <z-man> Prove it :)
19:34 <luke-jr_work> nah
19:34 <guru3> did you get an alpha computer luke?
19:34 <luke-jr_work> can BeOS x86 eat Win2k drivers?
19:34 <luke-jr_work> guru3, not yet
19:34 <luke-jr_work> it wouldn't be running windows if I had
19:35 <z-man> Maybe, if the BeOS guys were smart to add compatibility.
19:35 <z-man> Isn't it called Zeta now?
19:35 <luke-jr_work> maybe
19:35 <wrtlprnft> z-man: zeta is derived from BeOS and BeOS discontinued
19:35 <luke-jr_work> but VC++ (and therefore Windows) isn't standards-compliant for ABI
19:36 <z-man> Sure. Never heard of COM?
19:36 <luke-jr_work> COM isn't a standard, and I imagine not used for drivers
19:36 <z-man> It works amazingly well across compilers for not being a standard :)
19:37 <luke-jr_work> I'm unaware of any non-M$ compiler that supports COM
19:37 <z-man> Borland.
19:38 <luke-jr_work> the AIMCQ protocol works across IM clients pretty well
19:38 <luke-jr_work> compatibility doesn't make support
19:38 <luke-jr_work> err
19:38 <luke-jr_work> standard*
19:40 <z-man> Well, whatever the definition nitpicking, COM does provide interoperability between different C++ compilers. And it is used in DirectX.
19:40 <z-man> I don't know about drivers, I'm not really a Windows guy.
19:40 <z-man> But fact is, MS makes sure that you usually can take a driver from one Windows version to the next.
19:40 <luke-jr_work> the C++ standard defines an ABI
19:40 <z-man> Since when?
19:41 <luke-jr_work> ...
19:41 <z-man> No, really, since what year?
19:41 <z-man> You can't blame Win98 for not sticking to a standard defined in 2003.
19:41 <luke-jr_work> Win2k3 doesn't either AFAIK
19:42 <luke-jr_work> I know GCC was ABI standards-compliant around 3.2.1 or such
19:42 <luke-jr_work> maybe 3.3 or 3.4
19:43 <luke-jr_work> tho in practise it seems to not be that way, since the 3.4->4.0 upgrade means recompiling all C++ apps...
19:43 <z-man> So what's the use?
19:43 <luke-jr_work> well, hopefully 4.x are finally 100% compliant
19:44 <z-man> Umm, since when can Operating Systems be compatible or incompatible with a C++ ABI?
19:45 <z-man> Refering to the 2k3 thing.
19:45 <luke-jr_work> obviously, the OS is compiled
19:46 <z-man> And? The applications have to comply to the interface the OS gives them, and if the OS says the interface shall be plain C or COM, then that's the only thing that matters.
19:47 <z-man> I don't think the win32 API exposes full C++. Most of it is plain old C.
19:47 <z-man> And DirectX, as said, is COM.
19:47 <z-man> And COM sort of relies on a subset of the C++ ABI that VisualC++, Borland and GNU share.
19:49 <luke-jr_work> I imagine DirectX is not COM currently-- didn't M$ "obsolete" COM a few years ago?
19:49 <luke-jr_work> if you compile a library with VC++, and trying to use it from MingW, it won't work
19:49 <z-man> They plan the obsoletion :)
19:50 <z-man> DirectX 10 (or, umm, DirectX X) is based on .NET.
19:50 <z-man> Lots of Vista is based on .NET.
19:50 <luke-jr_work> because everyone wants to interpret their games ;p
19:50 <z-man> JIT-Compile, please :)
19:50 <luke-jr_work> still slower than native
19:51 <wrtlprnft> come on, the graphics can't be improved much more
19:51 <z-man> Not neccesarily :) It can give you instant optimization to your real architecture.
19:51 <luke-jr_work> ...
19:51 <wrtlprnft> but the manufacturers still want to sell hardware
19:51  * luke-jr_work thinks wrtlprnft's right ;p
19:52 <wrtlprnft> so the logical step is to have everything consume more resources with the same output to make them happy
19:52 <wrtlprnft> that's MS's strategy since windows 3.x :P
19:52 <luke-jr_work> MS doesn't make hardware ;p
19:52 <z-man> Well, that's another aspect :)
19:52 <z-man> XBox?
19:52 <luke-jr_work> MS doesn't price XBox based on hardware cost
19:53 <z-man> Your point being?
19:53 <luke-jr_work> they would want to get the most efficient stuff for it
19:53 <luke-jr_work> not least
19:53 <wrtlprnft> hardware manufacturers are selling PCs with windows on them
19:53 <luke-jr_work> I think the guy who made the original X-Box should start selling them and fight M$ over the TM
19:54 <z-man> Eh?
19:54 <luke-jr_work> there was an X-Box in like 1994
19:54 <z-man> What original X-Box?
19:54 <z-man> Oh, so a different thing with the same name?
19:54 <luke-jr_work> ran some DOS variant
19:54 <luke-jr_work> yeah
19:55 <z-man> Gaaa!
19:55 <luke-jr_work> More or less disks/discs with DOS games and autoexecs, IIRC
19:55  * z-man is about to format away the XP partition.
19:55 <luke-jr_work> good
19:55 <z-man> Still keeping 2k, though.
19:55 <luke-jr_work> boo
19:55 <luke-jr_work> there's always VESA ;p
19:55  * wrtlprnft did that a long while ago, erased it by accident instead of a CF card :P
19:55 <z-man> hehe
19:55 <guru3> lol
19:56 <luke-jr_work> fun
19:56 <wrtlprnft> /dev/hda1 vs /dev/hde1
19:56 <spidey> VESA?
19:56 <luke-jr_work> ...
19:56 <z-man> That's not too close, a and e...
19:56 <luke-jr_work> spidey, go away dummy
19:56 <guru3> VESA... forget what it stands for
19:56 <z-man> Or were you reading upside down?
19:56 <luke-jr_work> aoeuidhtns-
19:56 <guru3> essentially a video bios api or some such
19:56 <wrtlprnft> well, everything else on this laptop is /dev/hdax
19:56 <luke-jr_work> only 2 keys away
19:57 <spidey> luke-jr_work, fuck off
19:57 <wrtlprnft> except the cd drive if it's installed, but i can't break much there
19:57 <wrtlprnft> *except for
19:58 <guru3> details
19:59 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i don't regret it. 5GB of space, basically for free
19:59 <guru3> lol
19:59 <guru3> i sort of want windows back
19:59 <guru3> so that i can play games
19:59 <guru3> just some...
20:00 <spidey> hehe
20:00 <spidey> luke-jr_work, eat it =)
20:00 <wrtlprnft> there's armagetronad, wormux, bzflag, supertux, tuxracer, darwinia, and tons of other stuff
20:00 <spidey> lol @ supertux =p
20:01 <wrtlprnft> though bzflag sucks, i'd better put freeciv in there
20:01 <spidey> darwinia has a nix port?
20:01 <wrtlprnft> supertux is fun!
20:01 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it does
20:01 <wrtlprnft> uplink does, too, but i haven't played it
20:01 <wrtlprnft> and defcon is going to have one :P
20:01 <spidey> hmm
20:01 <spidey> i have the keycard for uplink
20:01 <spidey> it's in .txt form
20:01 <wrtlprnft> though i don't like the concept of defcon
20:02 <spidey> ?
20:02 <wrtlprnft> i don't care, i'd buy it if i wanted, the guys deserve it
20:02 <z-man> what's wrong with nuclear armageddon?
20:02 <spidey> it's based on a movie =p
20:02 <spidey> lol
20:02 <wrtlprnft> still don't like war games
20:02 <wrtlprnft> darwinia, ok, it's all in a clearly virtual world and funny
20:04 <spidey> z-man, wanna play? =p
20:04 <z-man> Sorry, Windows trouble :(
20:04 <spidey> o.O
20:04 <z-man> I'm giving my XP games partition one last attempt
20:05 <z-man> And I'm currently playing Sam&Max with my wife :)
20:05 <spidey> what's that?
20:05 <z-man> It's fun, she's radically pacifist and won't do any violent suff
20:05 <z-man> so I get do to all the fun things :)
20:05 <z-man> Sam&Max is an adventure game
20:05 <spidey> lol
20:06 <z-man> sequel to an old lucasfilm games title
20:06 <z-man> released in episodes
20:06 <spidey> hm
20:06 <z-man> www.telltalegames.com
20:07 <z-man> Dog and rabbit detectives. The rabbit is cute, fluffy and criminally insane ;)
20:07 <spidey> heh
20:08 <spidey> sounds like luke-jr_work 
20:08 <z-man> Na, he's not as funny.
20:08 <spidey> haha
20:09 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:19 <z-man> Hmm. Any idea how I can reemerge KDE without unmerging it explicitly first?
20:20 <z-man> And without reemerging all of world?
20:20 <guru3> emerge -e kde?
20:22 <luke-jr_work> z-man, meta or monolithic?
20:22 <z-man> meta
20:22 <luke-jr_work> hm
20:22 <z-man> Already found out, --newuse did what I wanted.
20:22 <luke-jr_work> ok
20:22 <luke-jr_work> I like -N
20:25 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: i used -n for quite a while and it took me quite some time to fix it later… since that I'm careful about short option
20:25 <wrtlprnft> s
20:26 <guru3> what's -n?
20:27 <wrtlprnft> i think it won't remerge existing packages with that
20:27 <wrtlprnft> so it's the opposite to -N :P
20:27 <guru3> hahaha
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21:43 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:43 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || Norm's Place (10 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9 players) || Strawberry Fields - BACKUP-SERVER (8 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (7 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || Six Eternal (1 more message)
21:50 <wrtlprnft> interesting. on ladle weekends there's around 5 players more online than on other weekends
21:50 <wrtlprnft> though i only have record of two yet
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22:27 <spidey> hahaha
22:27 <spidey> DrJoeTr0n, 
22:27 <DrJoeTr0n> http://youtube.com/watch?v=BNBD_p6xB4A
22:27 <spidey> i just played this defcon game right
22:27 <spidey> i was africa
22:27 <spidey> i sent 4 airbases and 12 carriers full of bombers
22:28 <spidey> straight to europe
22:28 <spidey> murdered all his silos and he shut the server down
22:28 <spidey> =/
22:29 <luke-jr_work> lol
22:29 <Vanhayes> how can you murder a silo?
22:29 <luke-jr_work> heh
22:29 <spidey> destroy it? =p
22:40 <luke-jr_work> Imma kill this paperclip!!
22:40 <luke-jr_work> ;p
22:40 <spidey> ??
22:40 <luke-jr_work> I'm a paperclip murderer
22:40 <luke-jr_work> mwahaha
22:41 <wrtlprnft> oooookaaaay……
22:41 <wrtlprnft> poor thing
22:41 <wrtlprnft> ever thought about murdering staples instead?
22:41 <spidey> lol
22:42 <wrtlprnft> or safety pins?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: but if you're talking about the MS-office paperclip thingy, go ahead and nuke it!
22:47 <luke-jr_work> lol
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> just make sure to nuke it at its source
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> we don't really need Seattle anyway
22:50 <guru3> haha
22:50 <guru3> that's a new way to hear about nuking a paper clip
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> why am I reading bbc coverage of an american election?
22:56 <guru3> sah
22:58 <DrJoeTr0n> man i have the worst subject to write a paper on
22:58 <DrJoeTr0n> paper
22:59 <spidey> hmm
22:59 <spidey> it takes 2 tons of trees to make 1ton of paper
22:59 <spidey> hold on 
22:59 <guru3> you can't say that joe
22:59 <guru3> and then not say what the subject is
23:00 <spidey> he's writing a report on paper
23:00 <spidey> i think
23:00 <guru3> mm
23:01 <guru3> that wasn't obvious
23:01 <spidey> xD
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> I can think of worse subjects
23:02 <spidey> me to
23:02 <guru3> it would suck to have to write an essay
23:02 <guru3> on our own ass for example
23:02 <spidey> "The life of Luke-JR"
23:02 <spidey> oh gawd
23:02 <spidey> i'd drop out
23:02 <spidey> =p
23:02 <guru3> "How I met my Ass."
23:03 <spidey> hmm
23:03 <guru3> or
23:03 <spidey> how i met my luke-jr
23:03 <spidey> nice
23:03 <spidey> xD
23:03 <guru3> "My Ass when it's sweaty."
23:03 <spidey> o.O
23:04 <guru3> "My chair and my Ass: A true story."
23:06 <DrJoeTr0n> its infact about paper
23:06 <guru3> "My ass and its special paper."
23:07 <DrJoeTr0n> well my ass could technically be used as a printer
23:07 <DrJoeTr0n> so
23:07 <DrJoeTr0n> and the toilet paper could be used as a substrate
23:07 <DrJoeTr0n> zounds!
23:07 <DrJoeTr0n> i can make millions
23:07 <guru3> haha
23:07 <DrJoeTr0n> ...of dollars
23:08 <guru3> "How to make money from your Ass."
23:08 <guru3> "With Paper."
23:08 <DrJoeTr0n> Step 1: Eat
23:08 <guru3> "Appendix A: Color Printing."
23:08 <DrJoeTr0n> hahaha
23:09 <guru3> the one you have to watch out for tho
23:09 <guru3> "Appendix B: Scanning"
23:09 <DrJoeTr0n> that at 
23:09 <DrJoeTr0n> Appendix B: Different types and Textures of ink
23:09 <DrJoeTr0n> C even
23:09 <guru3> lol
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23:16 <DrJoeTr0n> bbl
23:16 <guru3> cu
23:20 <z-man> For the record, I think you're all sick weirdos.
23:20 <guru3> :D
23:20 <luke-jr_work> ;.;
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> "My life with the Thrill Kill Kult"
23:23 <spidey> lol
23:23 <guru3> "Z-man and the Channel of Armagetron."
23:24 <guru3> alternatively named
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> Sure it's not Z-Man and the Z-Masters of the Universe ?
23:24 <guru3> "My wacky friends."
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> you could make a sitcom about us, we're probably worth half an hour's entertainment
23:24 <guru3> just one episode tho ><
23:25 <guru3> it ends with all of us committing suicide ><
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I was thinking it'd end like From Dusk till Dawn
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> where we all turn into vampires and take out luke-jr_work 
23:25 <guru3> hahahha
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> that is how From Dusk Till Dawn ended, isn't it?
23:25 <guru3> beats me
23:26 <luke-jr_work> guru3, they're picking on me :(
23:26 <luke-jr_work> op me! :D
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> so my kids watched most of interview with a vampire, then got scared when they saw my wife's teeth look sharp
23:26 <guru3> last time i did that you kicked someone D:
23:26 <luke-jr_work> so?
23:26 <guru3> lol lucifer
23:26 <guru3> kicking r bad
23:26 <guru3> we are one happy family
23:26 <guru3> of cannibals :D
23:26 <luke-jr_work> :((
23:26 <luke-jr_work> plz
23:26 <guru3> no
23:27 <guru3> :P
23:27 <luke-jr_work> :(
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> op me so I can kick the whiner :)
23:27 <guru3> that could be interesting
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23:27 <luke-jr_work> :(
23:27 <luke-jr_work> meanies
23:28 <@Lucifer_arma> he's never played freeciv with me
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23:28 <luke-jr_work> ROFL
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23:28 <luke-jr_work> lol
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23:28 <guru3> har har har
23:28 <luke-jr_work> guru3, you need to learn Freeciv
23:28 <guru3> and that's why i don't give out ops :D
23:29  * luke-jr_work would never kick guru3 :)
23:29 <luke-jr_work> (just deop :p)
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23:30 <guru3> :o
23:30 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:30 <guru3> woo he didn't do anything that time
23:30 <luke-jr_work> I wasn't watching ;p
23:30 <guru3> maybe it is safe to op him
23:30 <guru3> haha
23:30 <guru3> maybe not
23:30 <luke-jr_work> nah, Lucifer_arma entertained me enough to get off my would-kick list anyway
23:31 <guru3> we're all entertainment are we
23:31 <guru3> it's Armagetron Live!(C)
23:32 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:32  * luke-jr_work drops guru3 into a sewer
23:33 <guru3> don't you mean for our new sitcom, Armagetron Live!(C), the first season is that i'm walking down the street, when all of a sudden a light cycle blasts past me, knocking me into an open manhole?
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> why does it have to be a manhole?
23:34 <guru3> cause there arent ever any lightcycles in the country side
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23:36 <GodTodd> Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Luke to finish turn...
23:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr_ wanna finish that game?
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> the one where the Hobbits have settled every square?
23:39 <spidey> yea
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh, not really.  What a pain.
23:39 <spidey> or we could start a new one
23:39 <spidey> with 0 techs
23:39 <spidey> i like that better anyways
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> that is much better, but I think after fighting latvia and then the hobbits, I'm inclined to go back to a city mindistance
23:40 <guru3> playing freeciv now?
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> of course it means you can't make canals over 2 square isthmuses until after you get explosives...
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> um, not me, I have to wash dishes and shit.  Spidey should know better, I never can play this early.  :/
23:40 <spidey> lol
23:41 <guru3> heh
23:41 <guru3> guess it'll be a while before i learn free civ
23:41 <spidey> it's simple
23:41 <spidey> ok here
23:41 <spidey> 1 , kill luke-jr_
23:41 <spidey> 2. kill luke-jr_ 
23:42 <spidey> 3 kill luke-jr_ 
23:42 <spidey> that's all there is to it
23:42 <spidey> xD
23:42 <Vanhayes> 4. ally with luke-jr_ take his techs then kill him
23:42 <spidey> no
23:42 <spidey> that's 1
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, you can play it a bit with ais locally and get the hang of the game mechanics
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> that part doesn't take long, you don't even have to finish the game, really
23:43 <spidey> i'ma go make hotdogs =D
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> and rtfm, of course
23:43 <spidey> maybe chilie dogs, that sounds good o.O
23:43 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, yes'sir luke-jr_  =p
23:44 <Vanhayes> #time
23:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: 11:43 PM, November 06, 2006
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> #date
23:44 <spidey> #year
23:44 <Vanhayes> #time in years
23:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: 'years' is not a valid floating point number.
23:44 <Vanhayes> er
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> #alias add date "echo I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?"
23:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> #ate
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> #date
23:44 <armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
23:45 <Vanhayes> #help time
23:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: (time [<format>] [<seconds since epoch>]) -- Returns the current time in <format> format, or, if <format> is not given, uses the configurable format for the current channel. If no <seconds since epoch> time is given, the current time is used.
23:45 <spidey> #time in CDT
23:45 <armabot> spidey: Error: 'CDT' is not a valid floating point number.
23:45 <Vanhayes> #time seconds
23:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: (time seconds [<years>y] [<weeks>w] [<days>d] [<hours>h] [<minutes>m] [<seconds>s]) -- Returns the number of seconds in the number of <years>, <weeks>, <days>, <hours>, <minutes>, and <seconds> given. An example usage is "seconds 2h 30m", which would return 9000, which is '3600*2 + 30*60'. Useful for scheduling events at a given number of seconds in the future.
23:45 <Vanhayes> #time seconds 100
23:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: (time seconds [<years>y] [<weeks>w] [<days>d] [<hours>h] [<minutes>m] [<seconds>s]) -- Returns the number of seconds in the number of <years>, <weeks>, <days>, <hours>, <minutes>, and <seconds> given. An example usage is "seconds 2h 30m", which would return 9000, which is '3600*2 + 30*60'. Useful for scheduling events at a given number of seconds in the future.
23:45 <Vanhayes> bah
23:45 <spidey> #time CDT
23:45 <armabot> spidey: CDT
23:45 <spidey> ....
23:45 <Vanhayes> lol
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> it's just a light wrapper over some python library shit
23:46 <spidey> Useful for scheduling events at a given number of seconds in the future.
23:46 <spidey> what's the point of that...everyone's either early or late
23:46 <spidey> never ontime
23:46 <spidey> lol
23:47 <spidey> like my grandma, we have to be somewhere at 2:30 pm ,  we leave here at 1pm and it's like a 15 minute drive
23:47 <spidey> so i just turn music on now and ignore her xD

Log from 2006-11-07:
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00:00 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p508745E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
00:07 <guru3> i hope that last post was over stepping my bounds :/
00:07 <luke-jr_work> ??
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> not at all.  Overstepping your bounds would have been deleting the content of his post, putting the content of your post in there in italics, and then adding "S0 STFU N00B1E B00B1E"
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00:18 <luke-jr_work> what post?
00:19 <guru3> on the forums
00:24 <luke-jr_work> there's lots of sub-forums
00:24 <luke-jr_work> I only watch one
00:37 <spidey> what forums do you guys use?
00:37 <spidey> i want subforums but phpbb2 doesn't have the ability =/
00:38 <luke-jr_work> phpbb2
00:38 <luke-jr_work> well
00:38 <luke-jr_work> phpbb2-arma ;)
00:38 <spidey> ?
00:38 <spidey> lol
00:38 <luke-jr_work> it's all patched up and stuff
00:38 <spidey> ah
00:38 <luke-jr_work> phpbb3 has subforums, but no guarantee you won't lose data
00:38 <spidey> ?
00:39 <luke-jr_work> it's still highly beta
00:39 <spidey> oh
00:39 <luke-jr_work> I have 2 anti-spam and 1 Jabber patches for phpbb2 tho ;p
00:39 <luke-jr_work> if you want those
00:40 <spidey> eh
00:40 <spidey> don't use jabber
00:40 <luke-jr_work> irrelevant
00:40 <spidey> spam isn't a problem yet
00:40 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:40 <luke-jr_work> you're joking
00:40 <spidey> if it is i'll just rangeban in the firewall
00:40 <spidey> nope
00:40 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:40 <spidey> 56 members 0 spam
00:40 <spidey> =p
00:40 <luke-jr_work> there's tons of botnets spamming phpbb2
00:41 <spidey> not FA
00:41 <spidey> not  yet...
00:41 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:43 <spidey> ?
00:43 <spidey> seriously
00:43 <spidey> 0 spam so far =p
00:43 <spidey> maybe because in order to even see the threads you have to register, and do the AUTH code
00:43 <spidey> and i think verify email
00:43 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:43 <luke-jr_work> that last one will do it
00:44 <luke-jr_work> one of my patches plays wrtlprnft's game w/ the auth code
00:44 <spidey> game?
00:44 <luke-jr_work> there's 5 input boxes to put the code in
00:44 <luke-jr_work> but only one is real
00:45 <luke-jr_work> the others are hidden via CSS
00:45 <spidey> o.o
00:45 <luke-jr_work> bots don't use CSS
00:45 <spidey> yet
00:45 <luke-jr_work> yet
00:45 <luke-jr_work> if they do, "enter the code in the box that is highlighted in green/red/blue/purple/yellow"
00:45 <luke-jr_work> :p
00:45 <spidey> if everyone starts doing that i'm sure someone will make a bot that does
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00:53 <spidey> bout time =p
00:53 <spidey> armabot's still on another server o.O
00:53 <spidey> nvm =p
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01:08 <Your_mom_arma> im with tank, can we make people forget about bugfarm? it wasnt even that good of a server
01:09 <Your_mom_arma> dood turn the tornament server into bugfarm lawl
01:09 <Your_mom_arma> gtfo of my forums
01:09 <Your_mom_arma> the first one was rain and the second one was tank
01:10 <Your_mom_arma> er alex
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01:26 <ghableska> hello
01:31 <Your_mom_arma> hi
01:43 <spidey> hey
01:43 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr_ 
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02:07 <ghableska> hahaha
02:07 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6122448.stm
02:08 <Commn> lol
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02:14 <Lucifer_arma> forgive my stupidity, but what the fuck is gtfo?
02:15 <Your_mom_arma> get the f out
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> get the funk out?
02:15 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, need help =(
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't like what you see here, get the funk out
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> afk!
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab!
02:15 <Your_mom_arma> i guess you could interpert it that way
02:15 <spidey> !!!!
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> make it quick, I do need to get up and do dinner
02:16 <spidey> i found my mepis cd, put my old cd -r/w drive in this other box
02:16 <spidey> booted up, it's commandline, right so i got the sshd started because that monitor is to small
02:16 <spidey> the router shows the box
02:16 <spidey> ifconfig shows 2.3 ip
02:16 <spidey> but i can't connect after i started the sshd
02:17 <spidey> i get a network error
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> does it respond to pings?
02:17 <spidey> no
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> router says it's connected?
02:17 <spidey> yup
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> restard the dhcp service anyway on that box
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> can you ping the router from that box?
02:17 <spidey> sec
02:18 <spidey> yes, 0.8ms
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> can you ping the router from the client box you're trying to connect with?  Presumably that's the one you're talking to me from right now...
02:19 <spidey> yea
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> firewall :)
02:20 <spidey> live cd's have firewalls?
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> and sadly I have no idea what firewall mepis uses
02:20 <spidey> o.O
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> ls /etc/init.d/ and look for the one that looks like a firewall
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> then do /etc/init.d/FIREWALL stop
02:20 <spidey> it uses gaurddog if it's started
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> where FIREWALL is replaced with the name of the service you think is the firewall :)
02:20 <spidey> k
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a go grab a smoke, if you can't discover the firewall, you might google mepis firewall
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, if it can ping the router, but you can't ping it from the router, that indicates firewall to me
02:23 <spidey> firewall isn't running...i don't think
02:24 <spidey> ahah
02:25 <spidey> if i spelt guarddog instead of gaurddog it might help
02:25 <spidey> Reply from bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
02:26 <spidey> model name      : Pentium II (Deschutes)
02:26 <spidey> cpu MHz         : 300.712
02:26 <spidey> cache size      : 512 KB
02:26 <spidey> o.O
02:30 <guru3> off to bed
02:30 <guru3> good night
02:30 <spidey> night
02:31 <ghableska> cya
02:32 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
02:32 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 52.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Wind: S at 4 mph (6 km/h).
02:33 <spidey> #cnn 38256
02:33 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 54.0°F. Conditions: Thunderstorm. Humidity: 88%. Wind: ENE at 5 mph (8 km/h).
02:33 <spidey> #weather 38256
02:33 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 53.8°F (7:33 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa. 
02:34 <spidey> 7:37!!
02:34 <spidey> =p
02:34 <Your_mom_arma> 7 36 oms
02:34 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:34 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (7:10 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa. 
02:35 <ghableska> 7:10, not fair
02:35 <spidey> eh?
02:35 <spidey> yours is broken
02:35 <luke-jr_> spidey: Lucifer_arma Your_mom_arma 
02:35 <Your_mom_arma> pong
02:35 <spidey> luke-jr_, wtf you want
02:35 <spidey> =p
02:35  * ghableska pokes weather
02:35 <luke-jr_> wanna finish that game some time?
02:35 <luke-jr_> maybe in like an hour?
02:35 <Your_mom_arma> sure, van can come play so i dont have to finish off korea
02:35 <spidey> if i'm done installing mepis on this other box maybe
02:36 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: hmm, dunno-- practising, Korea was easily finished off =p
02:36  * Vanhayes is about to get off the computer
02:36 <luke-jr_> ok, back in an hour =p
02:36 <Vanhayes> so count me out on a freeciv game
02:36 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
02:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.39in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of flurries early this evening. Clearing overnight. Fog patches. Low minus 4.; Tuesday - Sunny. Increasing cloudiness in the afternoon. Fog patches dissipating early in the morning. Wind becoming (1 more message)
02:36 <ghableska> grr
02:36 <ghableska> wish mine was so detailed
02:36 <Vanhayes> oh ya we had about 5 centimeters of snow today
02:37 <spidey> #weather Paris,Tennessee
02:37 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 53.8°F (7:37 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa. 
02:37 <spidey> o.O
02:37 <Your_mom_arma> so like 2 inches
02:37 <Vanhayes> #more
02:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: southwest 30 km/h gusting to 50 in the morning. High 9. Tuesday night..cloudy. 40 percent chance of showers overnight. Wind southwest 30 km/h gusting to 50. Low plus 5.; Wednesday - Showers. High 10.;
02:37 <ghableska> #weather Des Moines, Iowa
02:37 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (7:10 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa. 
02:37 <Vanhayes> nope 5 centimeters
02:37 <ghableska> ...
02:37 <spidey> #g 40kn/h in mp/h
02:37 <ghableska> #weather West Des Moines, Iowa
02:37 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:37 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (7:10 PM CST on November 06, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa. 
02:37 <GodTodd> #g 5 cm in in
02:37 <armabot> GodTodd: 5 centimeters = 1.96850394 in
02:37 <spidey> #g 40knh in mph
02:37 <Your_mom_arma> 5 centimeters=2 inches iirc
02:37 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:37 <ghableska> knh?
02:37 <ghableska> :P
02:38 <spidey> #g 40kmh in mph
02:38 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:38 <Vanhayes> um
02:38 <spidey> #g 30 km/h in mp/h
02:38 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: did you get it working?
02:38 <ghableska> haha
02:38 <Your_mom_arma> 1.96 = 2
02:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, yes, i spelled guarddog wrong =p
02:38 <Vanhayes> #g 30 k/h in m/h
02:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:39 <Vanhayes> #g 30 kilometers per hour in miles per hour
02:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: 30 kilometers per hour = 18.6411358 miles per hour
02:39 <GodTodd> #g 30 kph in mph
02:39 <armabot> GodTodd: 30 kph = 18.6411358 mph
02:39 <ghableska> heh
02:39 <spidey> ...
02:39 <Your_mom_arma> damn small linux is my hero, i need to get buisness card size cds and make a couple copies
02:39 <spidey> rolf
02:39 <spidey> rofl
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> um, download their embedded distribution and stick it on a memory stick
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I did, only my laptop won't boot it.  So I asked my wife for the 1GB DSL stick
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> *usb flash drive
02:40 <Your_mom_arma> yeah but not all computers can boot from usb
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> mine can, but there's something screwy about how I set it up
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, the embedded distro comes with a qemu that can run it, which you can switch to full-screen and still use it
02:41 <spidey> root@0[proc]# /dev/hdc
02:41 <spidey> -bash: /dev/hdc: Permission denied
02:41 <spidey> o.O
02:41 <DrJoeTr0n> i wanna see USB become more dominant
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> I wanna see DrJoeTr0n become more dominant
02:42 <DrJoeTr0n> I wanna assert my dominance
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> dominate spidey
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> he goes for that S&M stuff
02:42 <ghableska> raging hormones?
02:42 <spidey> s m?
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTr0n: you can get pretty much any computer input/output device in some form of usb
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I was once a teenage boy, spidey hasn't had a thought in the last 2 years that I didn't have :)
02:43 <DrJoeTr0n> Your_mom_arma yeah but thats not what im quite talking about
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, if y'all can wait a couple of hours, I can probably join you for the freeciv game
02:43 <DrJoeTr0n> like store an entire OS on a flash drive and have it just run off of that
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> if not, you should really try to put a human in my place
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> thats already possible?
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTr0n: we have that already
02:44 <DrJoeTr0n> why dont i have this
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's called damn small linux, pay attention
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> #google damn small linux flash drive
02:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.22 seconds: 0.a - Introduction to Damn Small Linux | DSL Talk: <http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/talk/node/56>; Damn Small Linux - Not! :: View topic - install dsl-n on flash drive: <http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-n/f/viewpost/1443.html>; Damn Small , and Booting from a Flash Drive | Linux Librarian: <http://www.linuxlibrarian.org/node/139>; AltHack.com - How to Run Linux on a USB (2 more messages)
02:44 <DrJoeTr0n> then windows i require
02:44 <DrJoeTr0n> everything runs linux
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> you can do that too
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> then you ask for the irrelevant, and I can't help you
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> #google bartos windowsxp "flashdrive install"
02:45 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Search took 0.08 seconds: free protect download: <http://3d2f.com/tags/protect/>; Billboard PostPlay: General: <http://billboard.blogs.com/billboardpostplay/general/index.html>; Encyclopedia BETA: <http://experts.about.com/e/a/>
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> i dont think that helped
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> but it is possible
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> #google windows flash drive install
02:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.23 seconds: Windows In Your Pocket | Tom's Hardware: <http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/09/windows_in_your_pocket/>; 15 Steps to Install Windows XP on a Flash Drive: <http://www.everythingusb.com/windows_xp.html>; greg hughes - dot - net - Install Windows XP on a USB Flash Drive: <http://www.greghughes.net/rant/InstallWindowsXPOnAUSBFlashDrive.aspx>; digg - 15 Steps to Install (3 more messages)
02:46 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/09/windows_in_your_pocket/ i think this is it
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> ph34r my 1337 g00gl1ng
02:46 <DrJoeTr0n> rofl dwh 2nit
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> damn, this dwh thing is turning me into an aol brat
02:46 <DrJoeTr0n> ?
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> being specific on a google search never works :' (
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> n00b1e b00bie
02:47 <ghableska> heh
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> n(.)(.)b1e b(.)(.)bie
02:47 <ghableska> O_o
02:48 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:48 <ghableska> I just see fat black dots
02:48 <ghableska> is that what I'm supposed to see? :P
02:48 <Your_mom_arma> use your imagination
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> you're supposed to see ascii tits
02:48 <ghableska> I know.
02:48 <ghableska> Stupid trillian
02:48 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:48 <ghableska> It turns them into obese periods
02:48  * Lucifer_arma would like to see an emoticon for those
02:50 <Your_mom_arma> no comment hehe
02:50 <ghableska> ;)
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> let's test this.  Your_mom_arma (prick) 
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:50  * Lucifer_arma just added (prick) to his tab completion
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> now, can I have it insert something random?
02:51 <ghableska> yes!
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> or would it be more useful for me to finish cooking dinner?
02:51 <Your_mom_arma> its true well at least sometimes
02:51 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, freeciv in a hour?
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> might be longer, but we'll see
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> you guys don't have to wait for me, just use an /away ai on me or preferably put a human in there
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, if you put a regular ai on me, you're in bad shape.  I recovered the dumb ai's civilization and can build shit pretty quickly now.
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> of course, the dumb ai might trash what I've done too
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> you could leave me idling.  That won't be very pretty, I'd kinda like something to finish off the hobbits, but it's better than nothing.
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> er, better than waiting for me if you're axious to play right now
02:57 <spidey> fuck
02:57 <spidey> fuck it, winxp goes on this box
02:58 <spidey> then i burn a dvd with a ubuntu iso
02:58 <spidey> atleast i know it'll run :|
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03:00 <Vanhayes> #night
03:00 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
03:00 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034251104.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has quit [""Quit/Exited/Left/Went Away/Hit the Little X button""]
03:01  * Your_mom_arma notes how over priced buisness card cd-r's are
03:01 <Fonkay> business card dc-rs?
03:01 <Fonkay> cd-rs*
03:01 <Your_mom_arma> dc-rs?
03:02 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.proactionmedia.com/prodimages/rect-business-card-sleeve.jpg
03:02 <Fonkay> neato, never heard of them
03:02 <Fonkay> how much are they?
03:02 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, those mini cd-r's?
03:03 <spidey> they're about 1/3 the size of a cd
03:03 <Fonkay> no, they're shaped like business cards
03:03 <spidey> i've got 10 dvd -r's of those
03:03 <spidey> like 1.4gb cd's
03:03 <spidey> o.O
03:03 <Your_mom_arma> from what i just say about $70(american) for 100
03:03 <spidey> Fonkay, shush 
03:03 <Your_mom_arma> saw not say
03:04 <spidey> where?
03:04 <Your_mom_arma> froogle
03:04 <Your_mom_arma> random places
03:05 <Fonkay> seems silly considering they're just funny shaped cds
03:06 <Your_mom_arma> pretty much
03:06 <spidey> lol
03:06 <Fonkay> how much more can it cost to manufacture them?
03:06 <spidey> you can't use those on some computers
03:08  * Fonkay watches spidey not get the point
03:08 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:08 <spidey> who said i didn't get the point
03:08 <spidey> besides
03:09 <Fonkay> I did, just not
03:09 <Fonkay> now*
03:09 <spidey> i'm glad you're turning into another luke-jr_ =)
03:09 <ghableska> heh
03:09 <Fonkay> you were luke-II for ever
03:10 <spidey> hardly
03:10 <Fonkay> softly
03:10 <spidey> for one i'm not a christain freak =p
03:10 <Fonkay> neither am I
03:10 <spidey> you're a acception
03:10 <Fonkay> but you are a big headed stubborn little bugger
03:11 <spidey> tis what you think =p
03:11 <Fonkay> viola... Luke II
03:11 <Fonkay> voila?
03:18 <DrJoeTr0n> yay ali g show marathon: D
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I think mortars should ignore city walls
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> FP 1, attack 4, defense 1, MP 1
03:20 <spidey> mortars
03:20 <spidey> ?
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> I think they should require metallurgy and one other tech, so you don't get mortars right when you get cannons, you have to get at least one more tech
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's just a big tube that you stick a charge of gunpowder down, put a grenade on top, and fire it
03:21 <spidey> well yea
03:21 <spidey> but we get mortars?
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> modern mortar charges are less like grenades and more like shells, but the point is you fire them up in a large parabolic arc to get them over obstacles like city walls
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> and the explode on the other side, throwing shrapnel out everywhere
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm working off and on on a ruleset that includes more units, and fleshes out techs a bit
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> the idea is to give more options earlier, particularly after gunpowder but before tanks, and maybe get techs a little more inline with history
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> of course without sacrificing game balance
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd like to expand it into a full nuclear army, and then a robotic army, and then get into more sci-fi types of stuff like plasma cannons, armored infantry, etc.
03:23 <spidey> hm
03:23 <spidey> hey
03:23 <spidey> the next game we play
03:23 <spidey> can i host?
03:24 <spidey> well, not me...but a server i have anyways
03:24 <spidey> wanna use the warserver :D
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> I installed the warserver here myself not too long ago :)
03:24 <spidey> ah
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'd also like a gunpowder-based rocket unit
03:26 <Commn> what? no biological weapons?
03:27 <Commn> i'd like to see where you infect a flock of geese and train them to fly to your enemies water supply :)
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> there's already that, you can use spies to poison cities :)
03:27 <Commn> ah
03:27 <spidey> lol
03:27 <spidey> what about
03:27  * Commn sends geese at spidey
03:27 <spidey> rockets that launch smallpox
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think the engine supports chemical weapons in any useful way
03:28 <spidey> and it's really a pollution square in the same sqaure as the city
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> We could make chemical units, but the effects of chemical units would be something else
03:28 <spidey> and it reduces population 10,000 every 2 turns
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> now wait a minute, we might be able to make a cruise missile that fires off pollution
03:28 <Commn> there was that zombie engine
03:28 <spidey> untill it's cleaned with a engineer
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> you can make a unit drop pollution or nukes
03:28 <Commn> e.g. you put one zombie in a small area and watch people get infected
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> are you talking about freeciv?
03:29 <spidey> how about making bombers hold rockets and nukes
03:29 <spidey> example => real life
03:29  * Commn is bored
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> nukes yes, rockets no :)
03:29 <spidey> they hold rockets
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> I think it would unbalance the game too much if they could carry rockets too
03:29 <spidey> ok, nukes then
03:29 <spidey> =p
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but perfect accuracy isn't to be desired.  The modern unit selection is pretty good, but I'd like to add a tier so we can have real WWII units and newer units
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> and a third tier of nuke units before we start reaching the boundary of current military
03:30 <spidey> hey i need freeciv 2.0.8 right?
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> there are already real-world robotic units, the US uses drones, so we're not going completley into sci-fi setting that up
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> what I really want is a tier of expensive nuke units that obsolete most of the old units so you're stuck with them
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like the game to pass through a cold war phase if possible.  maybe provide an alternate branch of techs taht gets you robotic units without nukes,
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> but you'll need the nukes to be able to research the plasma cannons and shit that's to come after that
03:32 <spidey> freeciv 2.0.8??
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> mind you, I'm really worrying about the early gunpowder units first.
03:32 <spidey> i fucked my install up yesterday
03:32 <spidey> =/
03:32  * ghableska downloads freeciv
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah :)
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: make sure it's 2.0.x.  The 2.1 beta isn't compatible with the older series, and we're using the older one
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> which is good because some of us want to see if the warclient is all it's cracked up to be
03:34 <spidey> it really is
03:34 <ghableska> Yeah, 2.0.8?
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> that's the one
03:34 <spidey> i played on one of yaro's servers
03:34 <ghableska> right :)
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> did you find fundamentalism, spidey?
03:34 <spidey> yes
03:34 <spidey> the tech fundamentalism gives it to you
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03:35 <Lucifer_arma> for some reason my warclient won't find it's share directory.  I think it's finding the original freeciv share directory that I installed courtesy of mandriva
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna uninstall mandriva's freeciv and see if that helps
03:36 <spidey> http://warclient.byethost10.com/manual.html
03:36 <spidey> it is
03:36 <spidey> =p
03:37 <spidey> also
03:37 <spidey> choppers should carry paratroopers
03:37 <spidey> =p
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> I want an air unit that can act as a transport, and a ground unit that can carry missiles
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> helicopters are a good choice for the air unit acting as a transport :)
03:38 <spidey> yea
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> will marines be able to attack out of it?
03:38 <spidey> what's those things the military uses
03:38 <spidey> marines = water
03:38 <spidey> =p
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> does the game distinguish?  The only transports the game has are ships, so maybe it's kind of sea-centric in that regard
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> we'll have to see :)
03:39 <Your_mom_arma> i drew up an airtransport the same day i drew up the morter
03:40 <Your_mom_arma> i was thinking of just graying out units for heavy/light
03:40 <Your_mom_arma> light tank would be gray and a heavy tank would look normal
03:45 <spidey> dude
03:45 <spidey> there's 4 units i've never seen
03:46 <spidey> oops
03:47 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, 
03:47 <spidey> Freeciv\data\trident
03:47 <spidey> upload that units picture somewhere for me
03:49 <Your_mom_arma> pictures?
03:49 <luke-jr_> ..
03:49 <spidey> yea
03:49 <spidey> i overwrote mine on accident
03:49 <spidey> don't wanna redownload/install again
03:49 <Fonkay> back
03:49 <spidey> liar
03:50 <Fonkay> shush luke
03:50  * spidey resents that =|
03:50  * Fonkay notes that spidey resembles that
03:51 <spidey> no
03:51 <spidey> luke-jr_, might wanna argue with Fonkay, he says i'm just like you
03:51 <Fonkay> who says what now?
03:52 <spidey> it wasn't a typo
03:52 <spidey> =p
03:53 <Fonkay> he says you're like me?
03:53 <spidey> it wasn't a typo
03:53 <spidey> =p
03:53 <Your_mom_arma> luci do we need archers on horses, we already have archers on horse driven chariots
03:54 <Your_mom_arma> spidey recycling bin?
03:54 <luke-jr_> spidey: you are
03:54 <luke-jr_> I thought Fonkay was female?
03:54 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, i don't have one of those
03:54 <Your_mom_arma> you dirty humans are all the same... i mean im just like you guys
03:54 <spidey> rofl
03:55 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, i removed my recycling bin
03:55 <spidey> via registry
03:55 <Your_mom_arma> why would you
03:55 <spidey> because it's a stupid icon, and i've enver deleted anything i needed before
03:55 <spidey> lol
03:55 <luke-jr_> ok fine
03:55 <luke-jr_> we admit it
03:55 <luke-jr_> spidey is just another client of mine
03:55 <luke-jr_> I have 2 IRC clients
03:55 <luke-jr_> one is "spidey"
03:55 <luke-jr_> so what if I have multiple personalities
03:56 <Your_mom_arma> yeah but why a southern one?
03:56 <spidey> and i use a proxy from tennessee
03:57 <spidey> i'm not in the south
03:57 <spidey> i'm in the middle
03:57 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, is in the south
03:57 <luke-jr_> when we gonna play
03:58 <spidey> i dont' think luci wants to finish that game
03:58 <spidey> i agree kinda
03:58 <spidey> size 9 was way to small
04:00 <luke-jr_> we can handle it
04:00 <spidey> except the fact it's so small that the AI's are trying to settle everywhere i am
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04:01 <spidey> i don't even have a military b
04:01 <luke-jr_> pfft
04:01 <spidey> because it's so small i can't do everything at once, i have to dedicate to it
04:01 <spidey> so i chose science first
04:03 <spidey> to me, playing against 3-4 ai's is getting boring
04:03 <spidey> it's the same....you get tech then kill the AI without a problem
04:03 <spidey> then it's over
04:03 <luke-jr_> not the same this game
04:04 <luke-jr_> we didn't have time to get tech
04:04 <Your_mom_arma> ok lets finish that game
04:04 <spidey> luke-jr_, wtf you on?
04:04 <spidey> we've got all the tech but 4
04:04 <spidey> actually 3
04:04 <spidey> i researched labor union
04:04 <luke-jr_> we didn't when we started the war =p
04:05 <spidey> that wasn't a war
04:05 <spidey> that was you losing units trying to attack one city
04:05 <spidey> then mom joined in with howtizers
04:06 <luke-jr_> =p
04:06 <luke-jr_> it sure said War in my window
04:06 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:06 <spidey> it's a sad excuse for a war then
04:06 <spidey> on yourside =p
04:07 <spidey> if the other ai's had balls they'd whipe those cities you're defending with phalanx out
04:07 <luke-jr_> they couldn't
04:07 <luke-jr_> =p
04:07 <Your_mom_arma> someone add that to the quotess "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers"
04:07 <spidey> those cannons could
04:08 <spidey> #quote add "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey"
04:08 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.  Quote #33 added.
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> 33!
04:08 <DrJoeTr0n> howtizers?
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> #list quotes
04:08 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Error: 'quotes' is not a valid plugin.
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want to finish that game because I'm sick and tired of attacking smallpoxed ais
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> #quotes list
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> we either need to do humans vs humans again, or city_mindistance
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> theres a way to do that
04:09 <spidey> i want humans vs humans
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> that's a nice game we had going until it was time to actually go offensive, and I at least learned how shitty the ais were building
04:09 <spidey> so we don't know what they're doing
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> lets just finish it, just to say we finished a game
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> now, I'd like to get 6-8 people together and play on the world map
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> hey, spidey, GodTodd and I finished a game
04:09 <spidey> AI's we've finished a game =p
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> spidey and I went to war, GodTodd won
04:10 <spidey> you and luke didn't want to
04:10 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, no..
04:10 <spidey> we killed the AI's
04:10 <spidey> remember?
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> didn't he wind up with more points, though?
04:10 <spidey> then we was on the verge and it ended
04:10 <spidey> yea
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> because he built all those wonders and got all the techs for it
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> that being the game where we figured out humans vs ais was fun :)
04:10 <spidey> yea
04:10 <spidey> except we played it to much
04:11 <Your_mom_arma> freeciv always seems to end with everyone going to war against luke_jr
04:11 <spidey> now it's boring, because we know what the AI's do
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> no, we just talk trash about it
04:11 <Fonkay> ok it might be time for sleep
04:11 <spidey> yea
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> and luke-jr_ sets up a pretty boring game, really
04:11 <Fonkay> #night
04:11 <armabot> Good night Fonkay!
04:11 <spidey> because it's fun to make luke think we're going to invade him
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> bunch of starting techs, no barbs, bunch of starting money, weak ais
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04:11 <spidey> we all have the idea of this game
04:11 <spidey> AI's should be noless than easy
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> you guys have to admit (because you know it's true), the europe game we're playing is really fun (except for the smallpoxed enemy)
04:12 <spidey> yea
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> and it's been fun, and we've had barb problems pretty bad, and been at war with ais since before gundpowder, and all that jazz
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> we've had real difficulties, we started with *nothing*
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not terribly interested in any more of these sugarcoated games.  Give me barbs!  Give me smarter ais (with city_mindistance)!
04:13 <spidey> luke and his boring games =p
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> we had real challenges we had to think about.  No script to follow.
04:13 <spidey> how about this
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> the rest of the game is pretty clear, just keep fighting and building units
04:14 <luke-jr_> so we start a new game?
04:14 <spidey> me and mom vs luke and luci, or vice versa
04:14 <luke-jr_> btw, that game had barbs 3000 BC'
04:14 <spidey> did not
04:14 <luke-jr_> should have
04:14 <spidey> i didn't see a one
04:14 <luke-jr_> that's what I set
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'd prefer to just get a few people together and play the cards where they fall
04:14 <luke-jr_> we need AIs
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> sure you didn't set 3000 AD?
04:14 <luke-jr_> -3000
04:14 <spidey> luke-jr_, you need AI's
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> right, with ais
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> something like aifill 10 or something
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> higher
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> we need to have more ais than humans now
04:15 <spidey> and
04:15 <spidey> and
04:15 <spidey> if we have more than 6 people total
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> I like heavy barbs at 0AD
04:15 <luke-jr_> /set onsetbarbs -3000
04:15 <spidey> the map size is noless than 15
04:15 <luke-jr_> ok
04:15 <Your_mom_arma> well we can pick up the other days game or the eurpoean map
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> gives you time to setup your defenses, sorta
04:15 <luke-jr_> let's go talk in hachi.dashjr.org 5555
04:15 <luke-jr_> and change settings as we chat
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, I"m not ready.  I've gotta go chat with my wife a bit
04:16 <luke-jr_> :|
04:16 <Your_mom_arma> a new game...
04:16 <luke-jr_> can't you do that at the same time? =p
04:16 <Your_mom_arma> count me out
04:16 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: 1hpd?
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm rebuilding yaro's client anyway
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> heh, mom just wants to finish a game.  :)
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> I don't blame him, the problem is that freeciv by its nature has an ambiguous ending
04:17 <spidey> lol @ someone running for governor saying "i refuse to fly the american flag because i'm embarrased to be american"
04:17 <spidey> and forcing a school to hire a porn star
04:17 <ghableska> O_o
04:17 <spidey> he's sure to become governor =p
04:17 <ghableska> definitely
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> the japan map was a lot of fun too, and it had the same aspects.  barbs causing real problems, and other real challenges to solve
04:17 <spidey> how about if it's just us
04:17 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you need to talk to your wife or we gonna go to hachi to configure?
04:17 <spidey> let 2 other people play
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> but that game's going to degenerate into tedium when we finally get to go at spain, who's gone and settled every empty inch
04:18 <Your_mom_arma> we could play the jp map but van might get mad we left him out
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> he would, he really wants to play it more, we should wait for him to play it
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> the europe map is nice and big.  If anybody can get a size for it, we should generate a map from it
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> and pick a different map generator.  I dont' really like being on a zebra's stripe
04:18 <spidey> haha
04:18  * Lucifer_arma goes to chat with his wife, it's the only way to get her to bed where she won't bitch when she sees freeciv on my machine
04:19 <spidey> lol
04:19 <luke-jr_> is there a list of map gens?
04:19 <spidey> how long?
04:19 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: your wife hates civ too, eh?
04:19 <spidey> more than 2 hours?
04:19 <spidey> i wanna play defcon =p
04:19 <luke-jr_> spidey: come pick settings with me
04:20 <spidey> luci should host
04:20 <spidey> he has the warserver
04:20 <luke-jr_> who cares
04:20 <spidey> fundamentalism = best government
04:20 <spidey> = only in warserver
04:21 <luke-jr_> what if I add it to mine?
04:21 <spidey> k
04:21 <spidey> Server: andrew has connected from 71-212-47-34.tukw.qwest.net.
04:21 <spidey> <andrew> oh
04:21 <spidey> Game: Lost connection: andrew from 71-212-47-34.tukw.qwest.net (player andrew).
04:21 <spidey> Game: andrew has been removed from the game.
04:21 <spidey> haha
04:23 <luke-jr_> lol
04:24 <ghableska> o.0
04:27 <ghableska> ooh
04:27 <ghableska> http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/
04:31 <Your_mom_arma> you guys are really starting a new game?
04:34 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: trying new settings
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> but don't let random players connect, that was pretty annoying
04:34 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you ready?
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> you can get a list of map gens from the tooltip in the preferences dialog
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> just about, I need to check the installation
04:35  * Lucifer_arma just reinstalled the warclient
04:35 <luke-jr_> I set warruleset
04:35 <luke-jr_> not sure if it will work yuet
04:35 <luke-jr_> yet
04:38 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: sure you're not coming?
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> you have to have the warserver.  You'd know if you had the warserver, you have to download the freeciv sources, patch them with the patch, and then compile and install them.
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: you want to play this time?
04:43 <ghableska> uh, I haven't installed it yet
04:43 <ghableska> probably sometime over the weekend
04:44 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: it won't work w/o warserver?
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> beats me, the docs I read on that were pretty old
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> so maybe they bundled the warserver settings?  It's just a ruleset, I think.  Maybe not, maybe there are a few features that require the warserver
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04:52 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: wanna play civ?
04:52 <ghableska> #night
04:52 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:53 <GodTodd> hrmm....i'm trying to get dsl to see my wireless :/
04:55 <GodTodd> apparently it doesn't like integrated wireless heh
04:56 <GodTodd> and yes i'm trying to rtfm :P
05:00 <Your_mom_arma> bye
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05:30 <DrJoeTr0n> shit
05:30 <DrJoeTr0n> spell check died
05:30 <DrJoeTr0n> better reinstall office
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05:47 <GodTodd> blah
05:54 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTr0n: omg
05:54 <luke-jr_> just learn English
05:55 <DrJoeTr0n> nah
05:58 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.magnuminmotion.com/essay_chernobyl/ hope you like feeling like garbage
06:02 <GodTodd> hrmm
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06:40 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: come play
06:40 <GodTodd> trying to figure out this wireless thing
06:40 <GodTodd> :P
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07:05 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: play!!
07:05 <luke-jr_> or else we all die
07:05 <luke-jr_> a tragic death
07:05 <luke-jr_> s
07:15 <GodTodd> and?
07:55 <luke-jr_> ;.;
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07:59 <GodTodd> oooh legit...ooooh legit has quit
08:09 <luke-jr_> ...
08:10 <GodTodd> ,,,
08:24 <luke-jr_> ,,l,,
08:31 <spidey> wtf
08:32 <spidey> that froze me
08:35 <luke-jr_> ?
08:42 <spidey> man
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> next time luke, barbarian onset year is 500 AD :)
08:42 <spidey> all my cities above size 2 = rapture
08:42 <spidey> =)
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> crank barbarians if you want, but please no earlier onset than 500 AD :)
08:43 <spidey> i haven't had much of a problem from them
08:43 <spidey> they got 1 city
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> I know, I forgot to do it
08:43 <spidey> i'ma get that back
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, they took out 2 of my cities and did damage to 3 more
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> slowing down growth in key cities, actually, what a pain
08:43 <spidey> luke's almost dead
08:44 <spidey> i'm give him a city of mine way off in the middle of nowhere
08:44 <spidey> heh
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> there's a nice spot south of my little piece of the continent that he can have if there were a city there for him
08:44 <spidey> i'll try to build one
08:44 <spidey> want to fully populate my island
08:44 <spidey> and the surrounding ones i've exploreed
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to get my own civ expanded through the rest of my area.  I can try to spare a settler for him, but considering how long it's taken to finally be able to rapture to get teh damn things....  heh
08:45 <spidey> light house is very useful =)
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> I don't normally build navy until I have transports :/
08:45 <spidey> triemes are awesome
08:46 <spidey> around 1500AD i had 3 cities offshore
08:46 <spidey> =p
08:46 <spidey> i have a good idea
08:47 <spidey> i'ma terraform 2 small 1x1 islands
08:47 <spidey> so i can still have my naval bases
08:47 <spidey> =p
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10:10 <spidey> DrJoeTr0n, goto sleep
10:10 <DrJoeTr0n> i'd like to
10:10 <wrtlprnft> :sleep
10:10 <spidey> lol
10:10 <wrtlprnft> goto wake_up
10:10 <spidey> * Now talking on #wake_up
10:10 <spidey> * orwell.freenode.net sets mode +n #wake_up
10:10 <spidey> * orwell.freenode.net sets mode +s #wake_up
10:10 <DrJoeTr0n> im in this too tired to sleep funk
10:11 <DrJoeTr0n> and my brother likes to turn our into a  boarding house for his drunken friends
10:11 <DrJoeTr0n> room*
10:11 <spidey> lol
10:11 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah, its fucking great
10:12 <DrJoeTr0n> especially on a school night ^^
10:12 <DrJoeTr0n> thanks, you fucking prick
10:12 <spidey> well
10:12 <spidey> here's what you do
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> move out?
10:13 <spidey> hit them all on the head with a blunt object, then goto sleep
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> i like it
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> im only here to finish school
10:13 <spidey> heh
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> my brother is 22
10:13 <DrJoeTr0n> still lives here :/
10:14 <spidey> my uncle's 33
10:14 <spidey> still lives here
10:14 <spidey> =p
10:14 <DrJoeTr0n> bwahaha
10:14 <spidey> actually i think he's 34
10:14 <spidey> but ohwell
10:14 <DrJoeTr0n> well has he ever left? or is he a boomerang?
10:14 <spidey> yes he's left
10:14 <spidey> here and there
10:14 <DrJoeTr0n> ok
10:15 <spidey> but allways comes back
10:15 <DrJoeTr0n> so he's a boomerang then
10:15 <DrJoeTr0n> my brother has yet to leave
10:15 <spidey> i think the longest he's moved out is like 5 years
10:15 <spidey> then he came back
10:15 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah
10:15 <spidey> moved out for 7 months
10:15 <spidey> came back
10:15 <spidey> has been here since
10:15 <spidey> =/
10:16 <spidey> well
10:16 <DrJoeTr0n> my goal is to finish school, and a couple of friends and i are going to get a house in chicago
10:16 <spidey> techniqually this is kinda his house
10:16 <DrJoeTr0n> and i'll be done when they are
10:16 <spidey> my grandma put his name on the title, when she dies it's his
10:16 <DrJoeTr0n> haha
10:17 <DrJoeTr0n> my teef hurt :/
10:17 <spidey> start brushing them?
10:17 <DrJoeTr0n> nah its wisdom teef problems
10:17 <DrJoeTr0n> theyt need to come out
10:17 <spidey> heh
10:17 <spidey> mine came in perfect
10:18 <spidey> i'm healthy :D
10:19 <spidey> teeth are perfect, no health problems , haven't been sick in the last 4 years, i played hooky alot when i was in public school though o.O
10:19 <spidey> the only thing, smoking gonna kill me :D
10:19 <spidey> or when i start driving, that might kill me too...
10:20 <spidey> #night
10:20 <armabot> Good night spidey!
10:21 <DrJoeTr0n> ha
10:21 <spidey> i'ma enjoy a nice long sleep, while DrJoeTr0n gets annoyed by drunk people
10:21 <spidey> =p
10:23 <DrJoeTr0n> i love it
10:23 <spidey> DrJoeTr0n, 
10:23 <DrJoeTr0n> what
10:23 <spidey> does firefox crash for you?
10:23 <DrJoeTr0n> not since i changed my ram
10:23 <spidey> Update.exe and rundll.exe keep starting, then it crashes
10:23 <DrJoeTr0n> its crashed once since
10:24 <DrJoeTr0n> did you get 2.0?
10:24 <spidey>
10:25 <spidey> i guess i'll update in the morning
10:25 <spidey> going to sleep now :D
10:25 <DrJoeTr0n> ta
10:31 <guru3> goooooooooooooooooooood morning!
10:37 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: you there? Mind if I turn your puckmap into a fortress map?
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13:56 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/fortress/puckmap-1.aamap.xml :D
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16:55 <luke-jr_work> hmm
16:55 <luke-jr_work> UNB seems to be potential competition for phpBB
16:59 <wrtlprnft> phpbb sucks anyways, anything is a competition.
17:01 <luke-jr_work> phpBB is pretty decent, except in security
17:04 <guru3> ssshhhhhhhhhh
17:05 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't have a lot of features and generates broken HTML en masse
17:05 <wrtlprnft> and if you add hacks to it upgrading becomes a real pain
17:06 <guru3> that's true
17:07 <luke-jr_work> heh
17:08 <luke-jr_work> so far it hasn't been eliminated in my forum comparison =p
17:08 <luke-jr_work> of course, that changes if I make UTF-8 a must-have
17:09 <guru3> ><
17:11 <luke-jr_work> ok, reduced my list to 4 entries
17:11 <luke-jr_work> Phorum, phpBB, SMF, and Unclassified NewsBoard
17:11 <luke-jr_work> I'm biased for UNB cuz it has XMPP support
17:13 <wrtlprnft> now who would need that
17:13 <wrtlprnft> oh, i know, the world, everyone, it's the solution to all problems. I understand.
17:13 <luke-jr_work> you prefer email for watched topic notifications?
17:13 <wrtlprnft> i prefer RSS
17:14 <wrtlprnft> rss or atom or somesuch
17:14 <luke-jr_work> it supports that too
17:14 <luke-jr_work> RSS 2 is comparable to XMPP ;p
17:15 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i don't want anything that pushes stuff to my client, because then i have no way of stopping them from doing them if they start sending me spam
17:16 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:16 <luke-jr_work> you're rather pull spam?
17:16 <luke-jr_work> you can stop it by terminating the TCP connection =p
17:17 <wrtlprnft> umm
17:17 <wrtlprnft> if i'm pulling i can just stop doing that
17:18 <luke-jr_work> only if you know what's coming
17:18 <wrtlprnft> if they have some way to push stuff to me, like an email address or jabber address they can just continue pushing
17:19 <luke-jr_work> and you can ignore it ;p
17:19 <luke-jr_work> or close the connection
17:19 <wrtlprnft> they can publish that address to other spammers
17:19 <wrtlprnft> what if that's my regular chat account and used for useful stuff, too?
17:20 <luke-jr_work> only if they know that address
17:20 <luke-jr_work> theoretically, it could use pubsub
17:20 <wrtlprnft> i don't want tons of addresses
17:20 <luke-jr_work> but anyhow, most forums require that you provide an email
17:21 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, RSS 2 may very well be more appropriate than XMPP
17:21 <luke-jr_work> for news
17:21 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: there i can use a spam-only address that i only check if i'm expecting some key
17:22 <wrtlprnft> bbiab
17:23 <luke-jr_work> well solve the problem instead of working around it =p
17:23 <luke-jr_work> pull in inherently inefficient and slow
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20:28 <wrtlprnft> #g 13480 seconds in hours
20:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 13,480 seconds = 3.74444444 hours
20:38 <luke-jr_work> #g 13480 seconds per USD in days per yen
20:38 <armabot> luke-jr_work: 13,480 (seconds per U.S. dollar) = 0.00132174279 days per Japanese yen
20:38 <luke-jr_work> hah
20:44 <wrtlprnft> #g 15000 seconds in hours
20:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 15,000 seconds = 4.16666667 hours
20:45 <luke-jr_work> #g 15000 milliseconds per yen to minutes per euro
20:45 <armabot> luke-jr_work: 15,000 (milliseconds per Japanese yen) = 37.530818 minutes per Euro
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21:15  * spidey yawns
21:16 <GodTodd> go to bed
21:16 <GodTodd> :P
21:16 <spidey> i just woke up
21:16 <GodTodd> so?
21:17 <spidey> i dun wanna go back
21:17 <GodTodd> wimp
21:17 <spidey> that's it
21:18 <spidey> i'm blocking IExplorer.exe from running
21:18 <GodTodd> but...but....but then bill gates can't keep an eye on what you're doing
21:18 <spidey> good :|
21:19 <spidey> either way, now i'm getting spyware and i dunno where from
21:19 <GodTodd> ie is a good guess
21:19 <GodTodd> heh
21:19 <spidey> i don't remember using except for my msn email
21:19 <spidey> oh, heh
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22:12 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
22:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (8 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (5 players) || Norm's Place (5 players) || 2020 team challenge (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) (1 more message)
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22:12 <guru3> go classic play
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22:20 <Van-hayes> #ping
22:20 <armabot> pong
22:21 <guru3> gnip
22:22 <Van-hayes> gnop
22:22 <guru3> :)
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23:51 <Van-hayes> #ping
23:51 <armabot> pong
23:53 <Your_mom_arma> #pong
23:53 <armabot> ping

Log from 2006-11-08:
--- Day changed Wed Nov 08 2006
00:08 <Van-hayes> #armaservers
00:08 <armabot> Van-hayes: Norm's Place (11 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || .dBd|Server (9 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || The Lobster Cage (7 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7 players) || 2020 team challenge (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Swampland in (1 more message)
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00:10 <DrJoeTr0n> every day so far has been a little crowning acheivment
00:10 <DrJoeTr0n> just broke 1000 lines on tetris :D
00:11 <DrJoeTr0n> Oh Your_mom_arma i have a program you might want
00:11 <Your_mom_arma> ?
00:11 <DrJoeTr0n> stick figure animator :p
00:11 <DrJoeTr0n> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2155956
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00:45 <DrJoeTr0n> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2158922  holy fuck this has made my night
00:49 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
00:51 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: has been released! | http://armagetronad.net/ | http://servers.armagetronad.net/ | Often times as we wander down the road of life, we get side tracked. And then hit by a bus. That's the way it goes!
00:51 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> im gonna start a rumor that tank got hit by a bus
01:03 <Your_mom_arma> or just say i am and then not
01:03 <luke-jr_work> ...
01:07 <DrJoeTr0n> ?
01:12 <Your_mom_arma> #serverdetails shrunk
01:12 <Your_mom_arma> #pinh
01:12 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
01:12 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> ummm
01:14 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: Players (6/6): -=}ÎЪ °Rømëد, I/O Bus, KNIGHTPTCHR, MEL, w0rms3r, Warmon/<ey
01:14 <armabot> pong
01:14 <armabot> pong
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> minute delay?
01:16 <Van-hayes> #ping
01:16 <armabot> pong
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01:21 <Van-hayes> hey ghableska 
01:21 <ghableska> hi Van-hayes
01:21 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:22 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 59.0°F (5:54 PM CST on November 07, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Falling). 
01:22 <Van-hayes> #weather Saint John
01:22 <armabot> Van-hayes: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM AST; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness. A few showers beginning overnight. Fog patches overnight. Wind southwest 30 km/h becoming light this evening. Low 7.; Wednesday - Rain. Amount 10 to 20 mm. High 12. Wednesday night..rain. Amount 20 mm. Fog (1 more message)
01:22 <Van-hayes> all of the snow we had melted today
01:23 <ghableska> aww?
01:23 <Van-hayes> ya, Only got to have one snow ball fight
01:23 <ghableska> heh
01:23 <ghableska> did you win?
01:23 <Van-hayes> I dont care how old I am Ill always find pleasure in hitting someone with snow
01:24 <ghableska> haha
01:24 <Van-hayes> no winner just wet
01:25 <Van-hayes> best is when you see someones back and they dont see you have a snow ball
01:25 <ghableska> lol
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01:36 <luke-jr_> #ping
01:36 <armabot> pong
01:38 <Van-hayes> #pong
01:38 <armabot> ping
01:38 <luke-jr_> :p
01:38 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: Lucifer_arma spidey Van-hayes how about civ?
01:39 <Van-hayes> not at 9 pm on a weekday
01:41 <luke-jr_> O.o
01:41 <luke-jr_> 6:41 PM =p
01:41 <luke-jr_> you're not going to get most of us any earlier...
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01:43 <Van-hayes> I dont usually play on weekdays anyway....
01:43 -!- Plazma [n=Plazma@about/apple/TiBook/Plazma] has joined #armagetron
01:43 <Van-hayes> hell I dont usually play period
01:54 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
01:54 <armabot> madmax|pt: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || .dBd|Server (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Six Eternal Dragons Server (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (3 players) || Gamma Deathmatch Server (3 players) || Norm's Place (2 players) || The Lobster Cage (1 players) || Wild West (1 more message)
01:56 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
01:57 <Vanhayes> #list
01:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
01:57 <ghableska> #games
02:01 <Vanhayes> #list games
02:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
02:01 <Vanhayes> #monologue
02:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Your current monologue is at least 2 lines long.
02:01 <Vanhayes> #monologue
02:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Your current monologue is at least 3 lines long.
02:01 <Vanhayes> fun game
02:01 <Vanhayes> Dice
02:01 <Vanhayes> #Dice
02:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
02:01 <Vanhayes> #Dice 1 6
02:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Dice must be of the form <dice>d<sides>
02:01 <ghableska> #eightball What's new?
02:01 <armabot> ghableska: Maybe...
02:01 <Vanhayes> #Dice 1 d 6
02:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Dice must be of the form <dice>d<sides>
02:01 <ghableska> heh
02:02 <Vanhayes> #eightball Are you an eightball?
02:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Yes!
02:02 <ghableska> #dice 1d6
02:02 <armabot> ghableska: 5
02:02 <Vanhayes> lame
02:02 <Vanhayes> #Dice 1d6
02:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: 5
02:02 <Vanhayes> #Dice 1d6
02:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: 3
02:02 <ghableska> #dice 1d9999
02:02 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Dice can't have more than 100 sides.
02:02 <Vanhayes> #list alias
02:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, unlock, and wikipedia
02:02 <ghableska> #dice 1d99
02:02 <armabot> ghableska: 52
02:02 <Vanhayes> #f
02:02 <armabot> Random Fortune: No more blah, blah, blah! || -- Kirk, "Miri", stardate 2713.6
02:02 <Vanhayes> #f
02:03 <armabot> Random Fortune: We're overpaying him, but he's worth it. -Samuel Goldwyn
02:03 <spidey> ?
02:03 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Lucifer_arma 
02:03 <spidey> finish that game?
02:03 <Vanhayes> spidey: spidey 
02:03 <ghableska> spidey, spidey
02:03 <Vanhayes> heh
02:03 <spidey> 'er
02:03 <spidey> luke-jr_, Lucifer_arma 
02:03 <ghableska> #insult spidey
02:03 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a measled ooze of dread-bolted bladders. 
02:03 <luke-jr_> #insult ghableska 
02:03 <armabot> ghableska - You are nothing but a spam-sucking ooze of dread-bolted grits. 
02:03 <Vanhayes> #insult luke-jr_ 
02:03 <armabot> luke-jr_ - You are nothing but a vapid heap of spur-galled fish. 
02:03 <ghableska> #eighball am I  are nothing but a spam-sucking ooze of dread-bolted grits?
02:03 <ghableska> er
02:04 <ghableska> too much time around armabot, heh
02:05 <luke-jr_> #ping
02:05 <armabot> pong
02:06 <Vanhayes> #pong
02:06 <Vanhayes> #pong
02:06 <armabot> ping
02:06 <armabot> ping
02:06 <Vanhayes> #ping
02:06 <armabot> pong
02:06 <Vanhayes> #pong
02:06 <armabot> ping
02:07 <ghableska> ...
02:08 <luke-jr_> #ping
02:08 <armabot> pong
02:08 <luke-jr_> #ping
02:08 <luke-jr_> #ping
02:08 <luke-jr_> #ping
02:08 <armabot> pong
02:08 <armabot> pong
02:08 <armabot> pong
02:08 <luke-jr_> slow
02:08 <Vanhayes> #armabot
02:08 <ghableska> #eightball is that spam?
02:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: You know the answer better than I.
02:08 <armabot> ghableska: You're kidding, right?
02:08 <Vanhayes> #armabot
02:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: Yes!
02:08 <Vanhayes> #armabot
02:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: _I_ don't know.
02:08  * luke-jr_ didn't
02:08  * Vanhayes Blah
02:09 <luke-jr_> ...vote
02:09 <luke-jr_> =p
02:09  * Vanhayes Blah!
02:10 <Vanhayes> #list
02:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
02:10 <Vanhayes> #list markov
02:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: firsts, follows, lasts, markov, pairs, and stats
02:11 <Vanhayes> #markov stats
02:11 <Vanhayes> #stats
02:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: I have 12 registered users with 10 registered hostmasks; 2 owners and 1 admin.
02:11 <ghableska> #shuffle ghableska
02:11 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska
02:11 <ghableska> #shuffle ghableska
02:11 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska
02:11 <Vanhayes> ha
02:11 <ghableska> am I doing something wrong? :P
02:11 <Vanhayes> #shuffle g h a b l e s k a
02:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: b g a a s l k h e
02:12 <ghableska> oh, haha
02:12 <ghableska> #shuffle w u t t l e
02:12 <armabot> ghableska: e t t w u l
02:12 <Vanhayes> #shuffle it has to be seperate words or letters to work
02:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: has be it to words or work seperate to letters
02:12 <ghableska> um
02:12 <ghableska> quote that :P
02:12 <Vanhayes> heh nah
02:12 <Vanhayes> #q
02:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
02:12 <Vanhayes> #q
02:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:38 AM, October 28, 2006)
02:13 <Vanhayes> heh thats a good one
02:16 <Vanhayes> heh, ant thriller fans here?
02:16 <Vanhayes> any*
02:17 <ghableska> ?
02:19 <Vanhayes> http://www.bolt.com/mcmentalninja/video/Asian_thriller/2574563
02:19 <ghableska> uh
02:20 <ghableska> w
02:20 <ghableska> t
02:20 <ghableska> f
02:20 <Vanhayes> ya, that about sums it up
02:20 <ghableska> why did they start dancing all of a sudden?
02:21 <Vanhayes> hmm, you ever see the actual michael jackson thriller video?
02:21 <ghableska> which one is that?
02:22 <Vanhayes> its the one that he is famous for, 16 minutes or so long, where they all turn into zombies
02:22 <luke-jr_> spidey: Lucifer_arma 
02:22 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_: 
02:22 <spidey> i'm ready
02:22 <Vanhayes> #shuffle It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all doing direct the other way -
02:22 <Vanhayes>  in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.
02:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: we the of season was the before belief, had was of all way were season was we was incredulity, was times, us, wisdom, of was going epoch it Darkness, foolishness, us, heaven, the we of the of was it epoch age the were age the it of of of direct Light, to it had - it all hope, before of It of was was it other nothing the was it worst the the the it doing times, spring direct everything winter best we despair, (1 more message)
02:22 <Vanhayes> #more
02:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: the it
02:23 <Vanhayes> meh
02:26 <Vanhayes> #last --with hachi.d
02:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: [04:14:45] <luke-jr_> let's go talk in hachi.dashjr.org 5555
02:26 <Vanhayes> meh Ill play for a bit
02:26 <spidey> ?
02:27 <spidey> there's like people you can have
02:27 <spidey> the rest are AI's
02:27 <spidey> you can't have stee, he's been rading techs with the AI
02:27 <spidey> =p
02:27 <spidey> trading*
02:27 <Vanhayes> arent I still in it?
02:28 <spidey> ?
02:28 <Vanhayes> or is this another game?>
02:28 <spidey> it's a different one o.O
02:28 <luke-jr_> luc
02:28 <luke-jr_> i
02:29 <Vanhayes> pretty sure he isnt coming, just a hunch
02:29 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: 
02:30 <luke-jr_> spidey: you coming
02:30 <Vanhayes> spidey: 
02:30 <spidey> ?
02:30 <Vanhayes> want to play?
02:31 <spidey> play what?
02:31 <Vanhayes> Hide and go seek
02:31 <Vanhayes> you go hide Ill count to 100
02:31 <spidey> you hide and i'll seek
02:31 <spidey> if you come out before i find you,you have to do 1,000 push-ups
02:31 <spidey> so you better stay hiddin =p
02:31 <Vanhayes> ok
02:32 <Vanhayes> Im hidden
02:32 <Vanhayes> ill give you a clue, Im north of you
02:32 <ghableska> psst, spidey, he's over there
02:32 <spidey> ghableska, so? he has to stay hiddin and i'm not going to look for him =p
02:34 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon_snow
02:34 <ghableska> whoa
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02:40 <Lucifer_arma> or rather, if you take stee, we'll kill you
02:44 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: coming?
02:51 <Vanhayes> stee is???
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.kvue.com/news/election/results/race1.htm
02:53 <ghableska> heh, did you vote for Kinky Friedman? ;)
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> no :)
02:53 <ghableska> darn
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> I want him to win, but I voted to kick perry out instead, and went for Bell
02:53 <ghableska> he's...interesting
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: maybe in a bit
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> they're saying much higher voter turnout than anticipated
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02:57 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.jimdillon.org/
02:57 <ghableska> god-fearing, gun-owning ;)
02:57 <ghableska> is it true? heh
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> he's got 2.5k votes or so
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> with 1% of precincts reporting.  Is that good for a write-in candidate?  heh
03:01 <ghableska> heh
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> add bell and friedman together and you get a tie with perry
03:02 <ghableska> really?
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> #g 425269 - (314747 + 109211)
03:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 425,269 - (314,747 + 109,211) = 1,311
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> ok, you still lose by 1,311 votes
03:03 <ghableska> heh
03:03 <ghableska> still pretty close though
03:04 <Lucifer_arma> that's with 1% voting.  It'll be annoying if Perry wins because Friedman put up too good of a race
03:04 <ghableska> how close do the votes have to be for a recount?
03:04  * Lucifer_arma suspects the republicans asked Friedman to run just to neuter the democrats
03:04 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, but it's a guarantee the folks who would have to do the recount will be pretty tanked up by the time anybody calls for one
03:05 <ghableska> yeah, heh
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> did you vote?
03:06 <ghableska> <18 heh
03:06 <luke-jr_> I didn't!
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> you didn't, luke-jr_?  What, no election in missouri today?
03:10 <Vanhayes> Bah Karl the ai really had no idea what he was trying to do
03:10 <spidey> luke-jr_, can't bote
03:10 <spidey> remember
03:10 <spidey> he's not registered =p
03:11 <Vanhayes> good luck with those barbs luke-jr_ I bet they will take all the swedes' cities
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, heh
03:11 <Vanhayes> #night
03:11 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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03:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, I sent up the Democrat for my district to the House.  I think she held the district before anyway and is not one of the hotly contested seats
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> er, she's a senator
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> who did I vote for for representative?  heh
03:14 <Lucifer_arma> nvm, now I don't know who I voted for, haha
03:14 <ghableska> I see you're an informed voter ;)
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> I went to vote out as many republicans as possible, I don't care who wins besides that
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03:20 <Lucifer_arma> if the republicans want me to vote for them, they should let democrats screw up the country for awhile.  Then I'll go to vote out as many democrats as possible.
03:21 <GodTodd>  R. Perry (i) 479,202 39% 
03:21 <GodTodd>  C. Bell 364,352 31% 
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> he's gaining!  :)
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> what site you looking at?
03:23 <GodTodd> http://media.myfoxdfw.com/KDFWMISC/Elections/results_statewide.html
03:23 <GodTodd> realtime updating
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> that's a better site to watch, the one I was looking at kept asking me to register making it a pain to see
03:24 <GodTodd> haha
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> I take it you went and voted?  :)  (polls are closed now)
03:24 <GodTodd> yep
03:25 <GodTodd> voted after my trig test
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> they're saying much higher turnout than expected
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> this could be a big race!  :)
03:26 <ghableska> :)
03:26 <GodTodd> i think people are ready for change
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like the page is reloading itself
03:28 <GodTodd> yep
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the exit polls are all saying bad things about bush.  Of course, the press has turned against bush in recent years.
03:28 <ghableska> heh
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> hell, turnout has to be extraordinarily high for me to be there voting
03:28 <ghableska> haha
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> I voted right next to a sheriff, so I hurried out before he did so I could get away without a ticket for my inspection sticker :)
03:28 <GodTodd> heh
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> oh no, perry gained again
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> they must have counted another podunk precinct in east texas
03:29 <GodTodd> ok...the 7354 people voting for werner...are they nuts or just don't want any of them?
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> you should've seen the Patriot Dillon votes on the other site I was reading
03:30 <GodTodd> yeah...only 3% reporting...plenty of time
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> probably haven't finished counting austin yet
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> found a county map?  or has anyone bothered to make one?
03:30 <GodTodd> dfw will take a while to count :)
03:30 <GodTodd> dunno
03:31 <GodTodd> was yours electronic or old style?
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> old style
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> the one at ACC is electronic, though
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> apparently I could've voted there, but I voted in my precinct instead
03:32 <GodTodd> mine was the little electronic card and touch screen thingy
03:32 <GodTodd> can you vote out of precinct if you go to the school?
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, technically I'm in a hick county
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> that's what the other kids were telling me, and one of them managed to do it
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> *2 of them
03:33 <GodTodd> wow
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> I had already voted when I got there
03:33 <GodTodd> i could have voted at school then heh
03:33 <GodTodd> 'salright tho cuz the two are like 5 mins apart
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, my polling station is right on the way to school, no big deal
03:33  * luke-jr_ pokes
03:34 <GodTodd> luke-jr_ pokes spidey and likes it
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> they're giving K Bailey Hutchison the win for senate
03:34 <GodTodd> yeah
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> which probably wasn't a surprise, she's probably been a pretty good senator
03:34 <GodTodd> did you vote for her?
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> she's been kicking around for awhile.
03:34 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr_ pong
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> I honestly don't remember.  The thing is, I remember voting for her as a Democrat on the ballot
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> then I went to the senate site and saw she was republican.  So now I don't know.
03:35 <GodTodd> heh
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> I started going one by one, saw how long it was going to take and went back to the top and marked a straight party ticket after reading the fine print that said if I voted for someone outside the party, that would override the straight party bubble
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> then I noticed I voted for all democrats and didn't worry.  See, I don't know anything about the localler elections that were going on, so I figured I'd chuck the democrats something and see what they got for it
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> I like her, though.  She doesn't trod the party line to the point of loss of common sense
03:38 <GodTodd> yeah
03:39 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4593682.stm
03:39 <ghableska> ...
03:40 <GodTodd> 41-29 now :/
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> perry got a big gain with a recent update
03:41 <GodTodd> yep
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> expect big jumps as the precincts report in and don't let it bug you until we get around 30% of precincts :)
03:41 <GodTodd> oh, i know
03:41 <GodTodd> 5% ain't shit
03:43 <Your_mom_arma> nice ghableska
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> cnn and fox are calling the race for Perry :/
03:45 <GodTodd> already?
03:47 <GodTodd> is it a standard two term limit on governor?
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> no term limit here for governor
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> if perry is in fact reelected, he will win a record for it
03:48 <GodTodd> what record?
03:48 <GodTodd> reelected twice?
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> longest nmber of years served
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> he'll break the record during his term, that is.
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> He's been elected once, this is his second election, but he started when bush was elected president
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> Perry was Lt Governor then
03:53 <GodTodd> yep
03:54 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: civ
03:55 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you're missing some fun
03:55 <luke-jr_> andrew came
03:56 <GodTodd> he'd barely have the record 
03:56 <luke-jr_> right now I'm NAPT-ing him to some other server
04:04 <Your_mom_arma> luke which save?
04:04 <luke-jr_> last night
04:04 <GodTodd> heh kinky and strayhorn are ready to concede
04:04 <Your_mom_arma> i didnt play last night
04:06 <luke-jr_> o well
04:06 <luke-jr_> can always join
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> who else is playing?
04:08  * DrJoeTr0n burp
04:08 <luke-jr_> spidey, stee, vanhayes was earlier
04:08 <luke-jr_> luci was last night
04:09 <luke-jr_> a few AIs
04:09 <luke-jr_> and a ton of barbarians
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> stee?
04:11 <luke-jr_> yeah
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> I will probably be back in tonight
04:11 <Your_mom_arma> whos that?
04:11 <Your_mom_arma> luke what did you do to that guys server?
04:12 <Your_mom_arma> "(no lukes allowed - you hurt my client)"
04:12 <luke-jr_> lol
04:12 <luke-jr_> that's prolly andrew
04:16 <GodTodd> who's andrew?
04:16 <Your_mom_arma> cant observe the game
04:16 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: could play an AI
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04:29 <spidey> die
04:30  * GodTodd dies.
04:30  * Fonkay resurrects you
04:31 <GodTodd> i thought luke was the resurrector
04:31 <Fonkay> lukes the follower of you after you've been resurrected
04:31 <GodTodd> ahhh
04:31 <GodTodd> cool :)
04:32  * GodTodd institutes a reward system for suicide bombers who follow him.
04:32 <ghableska> #night
04:32 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:39 <Fonkay> #night
04:39 <armabot> Good night Fonkay!
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04:44 <Lucifer_arma> bell conceded :/
04:46 <DrJoeTr0n> omg luci is bush lol
04:46 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:49 <luke-jr_> ...
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> it's a common mistake
04:51 <DrJoeTr0n> who is that skull flame guy anyways?
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> some aol kid who played the game for months in local game because he couldn't figure out how to make network game work
04:52 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: did y'all resume that game from last night already?
05:15 <luke-jr_> yes
05:15 <luke-jr_> been playing it for hours
05:15 <luke-jr_> going to join yet?
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> maybe, have to see.  I'm about to break out my calculus book and work on some of that.
05:15 <luke-jr_> :|
05:15 <luke-jr_> dunno how the AI's been handling your civ
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> hes probably smallpoxed it.
05:18 <luke-jr_> dunno, the barbarians are pretty powerful
05:20  * GodTodd is studying python.
05:20 <luke-jr_> about 20 cities or so
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06:17 <DrJoeTr0n> (stm) boys are back
06:17 <Your_mom_arma> ?
06:19 <DrJoeTr0n> the guys fucking with the wiki
06:20 <DrJoeTr0n> he wasnt in the server too long 
06:20 <DrJoeTr0n> no more than like 30 seconds
06:20 <DrJoeTr0n> bans are great
06:22 <spidey> luci
06:22 <spidey> i'm about to destroy your civilization
06:45 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah they;re definatly back
06:45 <DrJoeTr0n> #lastseen DrFag
06:45 <armabot> DrJoeTr0n: timed out
06:46 <Your_mom_arma> #lastseen fag
06:46 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Dr Joe Fag seems to be on Swampland in 2.7.1 right now.
06:46 <DrJoeTr0n> my fan club returns
06:46 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:50 <spidey> hmm
06:50 <spidey> i have the best plan thingy =D
06:50 <spidey> small pox, then  rapture your cities all the way to size 12+
06:50 <spidey> o.O
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: luke-jr_ ...
07:01 <spidey> he went to bed
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> oh, so the game's over for the night?
07:02 <spidey> ya
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> looks like the ai did smallpox me :/
07:03 <spidey> that's not our game
07:03 <spidey> we're still saved
07:03 <spidey> that's us & stee
07:03 <spidey> i think
07:04 <GodTodd> hmmm...i like that, i think, joe
07:04 <GodTodd> bah
07:04 <DrJoeTr0n> wjat
07:04 <DrJoeTr0n> oh
07:04 <DrJoeTr0n> hhaha
07:04 <DrJoeTr0n> now there is 3 of them
07:04 <GodTodd> it won't let me change to DrJoeFag
07:04 <GodTodd> heh
07:05 <DrJoeTr0n> 10 bucks one of them is hifi leopard
07:05 <DrJoeTr0n> hyphy
07:05 <DrJoeTr0n> whtat the fuck ever
07:06 -!- GodTodd is now known as DrJoeFag
07:06 <DrJoeFag> there we go
07:07 -!- DrJoeTr0n is now known as DrJoeFagisaFag
07:07 -!- spidey is now known as DrJoeTron
07:07 <DrJoeTron> =p
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07:08 <DrJoeTron> ?
07:08 -!- DrJoeFagisaFag is now known as spidey
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07:08 <GodTodd> bah...damn x button jumping in front of my cursor
07:08 -!- DrJoeTron is now known as spidey
07:08 <spidey> xD
07:08 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-36-178-77.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
07:08 <spidey> rofl
07:08 -!- DrJoeTron is now known as DrJoeTr0n
07:08 <spidey> =p
07:09 -!- Your_mom_arma is now known as Your_mom_arm1
07:09 <Your_mom_arm1> bwahaha
07:09 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as Your_momisafag
07:09 <Your_mom_arm1> haha
07:09 <spidey> lol
07:09 -!- Your_momisafag is now known as Lucifer_arma
07:09 -!- DrJoeTr0n is now known as GodToddGaynus
07:09 -!- Your_mom_arm1 is now known as Your_mom_arma
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07:10 <YouAllIsAFag> :|
07:10 <GodTodd> sorry...that nick gave me a bad grammar seizure
07:10 <GodTodd> heh
07:11 <spideylikescock> bend over spidey, I'm coming in!
07:11 -!- GodToddGaynus is now known as spideylikeittybi
07:11 -!- spideylikescock is now known as Lucifer_arma
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> spidey, your back door's open!
07:11 <YouAllIsAFag> =|
07:11 -!- spideylikeittybi is now known as DrJoeTron
07:11 -!- Your_mom_arma is now known as guru1
07:11 <guru1> hey
07:12 <guru1> visit my armagetron site
07:12 <YouAllIsAFag> o.O
07:12 -!- guru1 is now known as Your_mom_arma
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> www.fagsrus.com ?
07:12 -!- YouAllIsAFag is now known as spidey
07:12 <spidey> you're all deeply disturbed
07:12 <spidey> =p
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> heh, that's a real domain
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07:13 <spideydrinkssper> m
07:13  * spideydrinkssper m
07:13 -!- Your_mom_arma is now known as spideyroffle
07:13 <spideyeatsanus> I like itty bitty kitty titties
07:13 <spideyroffle> lawl
07:13 -!- spideydrinkssper is now known as Lucifer_arma
07:13 -!- spideyeatsanus is now known as spideyluvsluke
07:13 <spideyluvsluke> I <3 luke
07:13 -!- spideyroffle is now known as DrJoeTron
07:14 <spideyluvsluke> rawfl
07:14 <spideyluvsluke> >=lccc,3
07:14 <DrJoeTron> hi guys
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> luke hates spidey.  </3
07:14 <spideyluvsluke>  D:
07:14 <spidey> o.O
07:14 <DrJoeTron> luke my best freind
07:14 -!- spideyluvsluke is now known as Your_mom_arma
07:14 <DrJoeTron> hows that linux workin out for ya
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07:14 <Your_mom_arma> hi
07:15 <DrJoeTron> hi
07:15 <Your_mom_arma> reginald tinsley's barn?
07:15 <DrJoeTron> hmm?
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> heya z-man
07:15 <Your_mom_arma> ?
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> I want to play Trackmania
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I wouldn't be sitting too proud if I won the election with 39% of the votes
07:16 <DrJoeTron> mom want to?
07:16 <DrJoeTron> too bad
07:16 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, i will
07:16 <spidey> =D
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> I hate spidey
07:16 <DrJoeTron> i guess i could play
07:16 <DrJoeTron> i mean
07:16 <DrJoeTron> if everyone else is going too
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not
07:17 <spidey> you don't count
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> 1 2 3 4 5 8 7 6 9 0
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> yes I do!
07:17 <spidey> you're not a person
07:17 <Your_mom_arma> lets go to Let's Rock
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> do I need to bounce my cock off your chin?
07:17 <DrJoeTron> lol
07:18 <spidey> teamspeak?
07:18 <spidey> :D
07:18 <Your_mom_arma> i guess
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: well, I guess Perry won :(
07:20 <GodTodd> yeah
07:20 <GodTodd> :/
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> 61% of people voted for someone besides the winner.  I love Texas!
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> Democracy rules!  grrr
07:21 <GodTodd> haha
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> Friedman should have run for Lt Governor
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> he might have won then
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> and bell probably would've won
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> Bell + Friedman > Perry
07:22 <GodTodd> i'm sure that at least a majority of friedman's 12% would have voted for bell
07:22 <GodTodd> they had similar platforms
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, Friedman feels like a plant to me now.
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> Like he was put there to neuter bell, so Perry just had to worry about Strayhorn, which is who he spent all his money attacking
07:23 <GodTodd> ya never know
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> It seems to me that the Democrats always suffer when a third-party candidate shows up and gets real momentum
07:24 <GodTodd> republican conspiracy? ;)
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> so the logical way to attack them when you haven't got a snowball's chance in hell is to field your own man as a third-party candidate to take votes from the Democrats
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> Take Friedman out of the race and what do you see?  I don't know, maybe a lot of the people that voted for him wouldn't have voted at all if he wasn't there
07:24 <GodTodd> true
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> Strayhorn took a lot of traditionally democratic voters though
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> Even if you let Werner keep his 1%, that's still 60%, probably more than 50% of it would have gone democrat
07:25 <GodTodd> i'm sure
07:26 <GodTodd> think we'll see the same two in '10?
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> Good news, though.  The Democrats took the House
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> Well, I'd like to see Bell again, honestly.  If not Governor, maybe something else.
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> Hillary's priming herself for President, so maybe Bell won't manage a nomination there in 08
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to see Bell as Governor
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> he kind of reminds me of FDR
07:29 <GodTodd> yeah
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07:29 <GodTodd> you think bell might try for prez if hillary doesn't?
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> it wouldn't surprise me if he tries anyway, but he strikes me as wanting to be involved in Texas politics
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07:30 <GodTodd> http://www.walken2008.com/
07:34 <GodTodd> http://www.zod2008.com/
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> YES!  Elect the headless horseman!
07:36 <GodTodd> hahaha
07:38 <GodTodd> looks like gore's gonna give it another go
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't vote for Zod, but I'd vote for Ursa
07:40 <GodTodd> heh
07:40 <GodTodd> major or minor? ;)
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.algore-08.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=139&Itemid=78
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> if gore runs, I'll vote for him
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> I've gotten over my grudge against his stupid wife
07:49 <GodTodd> anyone but hilary
07:49 <GodTodd> heh
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10:13 <DrJoeTron> moms such a quitter
10:13 <spidey> lol
10:13 <DrJoeTron> cya guys
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15:44 <spidey> o.O
15:59 <wrtlprnft> now why does 2020 think maths teachers will particularily like armagetronad?
16:00 <wrtlprnft> maybe those who teach computer science or physics
16:03 <luke-jr_> because we so abide by the laws of physics...
16:04 <luke-jr_> I'd like to see Alan Keyes for president ;p
16:04 <wrtlprnft> we do have acceleration
16:04 <wrtlprnft> and we're metric!
16:05 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: no we're not ;p
16:05 <wrtlprnft> we are
16:05 <luke-jr_> nah
16:05 <wrtlprnft> there's some piece of documentation that says everything is metres and seconds and derived units
16:05 <wrtlprnft> speed is m/s
16:05 <luke-jr_> 1) seconds aren't metric
16:05 <luke-jr_> 2) that's just documentation AFAIK
16:06 <wrtlprnft> seconds are SI units
16:06 <luke-jr_> does Arma resize the grid appearance if you change DPI?
16:06 <wrtlprnft> acceleration is s^-2
16:06 <wrtlprnft> *cylce_accel is s^-2
16:06 <luke-jr_> if not, we use arbitrary units
16:06 <guru3> not the aa units thing again
16:06 <wrtlprnft> nope, it doesn't
16:07 <luke-jr_> so we use our own arbitrary internal units that are called "meters" in docs
16:08 <wrtlprnft> that's more likely
16:08 <wrtlprnft> but they give an idea of the real scale of it if you were to build a model in the real world
16:08 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/243478
16:13 <guru3> and why does armagetron need boostlib?
16:15 <wrtlprnft> uh, versions >=0.3.0 do
16:15 <wrtlprnft> because ph introduced it and hasn't figured how to only depend on certain parts yet
16:15 <guru3> just curious what it does
16:16 <wrtlprnft> anyways, tweaked the graph a bit, currently recreating it
16:16 <wrtlprnft> it takes forever to do that
16:16 <wrtlprnft> does everything but coffee
16:18 <guru3> oh well
16:18 <guru3> ill be interested in the tweaked graph
16:19 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/totalonlinehistory.png
16:19 <wrtlprnft> still a bit unsmooth
16:19 <wrtlprnft> taking the average of 14 minutes
16:20 <guru3> if i could think of a better way to do it i would
16:20 <guru3> but i just see how the best fit line would be graphically ><
16:20 <wrtlprnft> hmm
16:20 <wrtlprnft> maybe I should draw two lines
16:20 <wrtlprnft> one black one with the real data to show the min and max
16:20 <wrtlprnft> and one that's smoothed about an hour or so
16:20 <wrtlprnft> sec
16:22 <wrtlprnft> regenerating…
16:25 <guru3> looks funky
16:25 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that was smoothed by 14 minutes, will try again with 60
16:25 <wrtlprnft> oh, funky, not funky o_O
16:25 <wrtlprnft> *not funny
16:25 <guru3> lol
16:26 <guru3> funky on the brain
16:28 <wrtlprnft> like that?
16:29 <guru3> better yeah
16:29 <guru3> but some cool splines would be... cool
16:29 <guru3> :D
16:30 <wrtlprnft> hmm
16:30 <wrtlprnft> i could just draw more points
16:31 <wrtlprnft> but the script is outputting SVG, so you could tell me how and I would make paths for you :P
16:32 <guru3> not a clue :D
16:33 <wrtlprnft> now it's a bit jagged, though
16:33 <guru3> yeah :
16:33 <guru3> :/
16:34 <guru3> try googling for spline
16:34 <wrtlprnft> i know how they work, I made svg2aamap parse them
16:34 <wrtlprnft> but how do i create them so they somwhat follow the real graph?
16:35 <guru3> from the center line average
16:35 <guru3> for each cycle if you take above and below
16:35 <guru3> and spline all the points
16:35 <guru3> i think it could come out close
16:36 <wrtlprnft> oh, SVG only knows splines with 3 or 4 points
16:36 <wrtlprnft> oh, sec
16:36 <wrtlprnft> i could make the lines have round edges
16:38 <wrtlprnft> and not draw as many of them, just every 10 minutes or so
16:39 <wrtlprnft> much better :)
16:40 <luke-jr_work> How can you make simple line shapes? :|
16:40 <luke-jr_work> eg, you place points, and can move them around
16:40 <luke-jr_work> Karbon14 doesn't have anything obvious :(
16:41 <wrtlprnft> uh
16:41 <wrtlprnft> in inkscape you use the pen tools and paths for that
16:41 <wrtlprnft> just don't drag
16:41 <wrtlprnft> and then use the path tool to edit it all
16:41 <guru3> now why do you suppose a dedicated server built from svn
16:41 <guru3> would not now about the fortress settings
16:42 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't
16:42 <wrtlprnft> the latest trunk, anyways
16:42 <guru3> go figure
16:42 <wrtlprnft> it only knows ph's zones :P
16:42 <guru3> guess i need the 0.3.0 branch?
16:42 <luke-jr_work> hrm
16:42 <wrtlprnft> guru3: yeah
16:43 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, trunk lacks backward compatibility? :|
16:43 <wrtlprnft> or find ph and tell him to finish his zones and add backward compatibility
16:43 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: it does in multiple ways
16:43 <wrtlprnft> old HUD settings don't work anymore
16:44 <wrtlprnft> old lagometer is disabled (though it is just #ifndef'd out)
16:44 <luke-jr_work> Old lagometer? You mean minus a bugfix?
16:45 <wrtlprnft> old lagometer = before meriton's patch
16:45 <luke-jr_work> which was a bugfix, IIRC
16:45 <wrtlprnft> 0.2.8 still has a setting to turn it on
16:45 <luke-jr_work> do we really have a 0.3.0 branch? I thought it was a tag
16:45 <wrtlprnft> it's a branch
16:45 <luke-jr_work> so I *could* add a bugfix
16:46 <wrtlprnft> and I still sometimes commit to it
16:46 <wrtlprnft> bugfixes unrelated to zones
16:46 <luke-jr_work> well, the bugfix I had in mind was making the multislot stuff work properly
16:46 <luke-jr_work> and a makefile bug
16:47 <luke-jr_work> If anyone had ever come to me asking for 0.2.7, I'd probably have backported multislots to it =p
16:48 <wrtlprnft> multislot?
16:48 <wrtlprnft> you mean >16 players?
16:51 <luke-jr_work> no
16:51 <luke-jr_work> installing diff AA versions on the same PC
16:57 <wrtlprnft> that already works, doesn't it?
16:58 <wrtlprnft> either --prefix or --enable-multiver?
16:59 <guru3> can you check if a server called 'Fortress' is popping up in your server list?
17:00 <wrtlprnft> there's no server called just fortress
17:00 <wrtlprnft> Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress
17:00 <wrtlprnft> AST Server  |Fortress|
17:00 <wrtlprnft> Dubki.Ru Fortress Server
17:00 <wrtlprnft> Super Duck Fortress!
17:00 <wrtlprnft> Wild West - Wild Fortress
17:00 <wrtlprnft> Wild West - Fortress
17:01 <guru3> shows up here
17:01 <guru3> let's see what happens
17:01 <wrtlprnft> what IP?
17:01 <guru3> electricpotential.net	A
17:02 <wrtlprnft> just tigers network×2 and icemans
17:03 <guru3> itll pop up eventually i hope
17:03 <guru3> just give it some time now
17:03 <wrtlprnft> ok, I'll check again later. or just use http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors :P
17:04 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, not in 0.3.0 or pre-0.2.8
17:06 <wrtlprnft> oh, so you're the one who actually made the --enable-multiver switch?
17:06 <luke-jr_work> I don't remember who did
17:06 <luke-jr_work> I fixed it in 0.2.8 and 0.3.1+
17:06 <wrtlprnft> then have a look at http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=9981
17:07 <luke-jr_work> I don't see how it's related to multiver
17:08 <luke-jr_work> nor do I know when in the 0.2.8 release chain my fix was committed
17:10 <wrtlprnft> svn log?
17:12 <luke-jr_work> go ahead :p
17:12 <luke-jr_work> way too much there
17:12 <luke-jr_work> and you know I probably didn't use a good enough message ;p
17:12 <wrtlprnft> your problem
17:13 <wrtlprnft> a message “fixed it” isn't usuable at all
17:13 <luke-jr_work> ;p
17:17 <wrtlprnft> r2590 | luke-jr | 2005-08-16 01:03:29 +0200 (Tue, 16 Aug 2005) | 2 lines
17:17 <wrtlprnft> allow specifying slot w/ multiver
17:17 <wrtlprnft> that?
17:23 <luke-jr_work> no
17:25 <wrtlprnft> well, i don't know what else
17:25 <wrtlprnft> at least not from these messages
17:26 <wrtlprnft> trying annotate…
17:28 <wrtlprnft> still nothing usuable
17:33 <luke-jr_work> XD
17:33 <wrtlprnft> and i'm just trying to convince ady that you can't hide backdoors in arma
17:37 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:37 <luke-jr_work> how did that come up?
17:37 <wrtlprnft> read the forums
17:37 <luke-jr_work> which part
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17:38 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=9921
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17:40 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, so what happened to a group of us sharing a server?
17:41 <luke-jr_work> omg... ady is reinventing the wheel?
17:41 <guru3> yeah, ftw
17:42 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: well, i give you an account, you give me money if you want to rent it. If you wanna run a server for development purposes it's free
17:43 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, boo
17:43 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:44 <luke-jr_work> that's not sharing a server, that's you getting it and reselling it ;p
17:44 <wrtlprnft> well, the problem is, if you get a root account and start doing things to the server
17:44 <wrtlprnft> i'd be responsible as I'm the one who's having the contract with hetzner
17:45 <luke-jr_work> like what?>
17:45 <luke-jr_work> not much root can do that would violate a contract that a regular user can't
17:45 <wrtlprnft> like, lock me out of it and start sending spam
17:45 <luke-jr_work> um
17:45 <wrtlprnft> as a regular user i'd still have logs and stuff
17:46 <luke-jr_work> Hetzner doesn't have a shell interface?
17:46 <wrtlprnft> does
17:46 <luke-jr_work> so you can't be locked out =p
17:46 <wrtlprnft> i can boot it into rescue mode
17:46 <wrtlprnft> but if the logs are gone, they're gone
17:54 <luke-jr_work> well at least don't make things even harder for me by funding gratis hosting for non-development?
17:55 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:56 <wrtlprnft> i'll host my own servers, maybe some CT stuff and any development server should it be needed
17:57 <luke-jr_work> why CT stuff? O.o
17:57 <wrtlprnft> because i'm admin on the CT servers?
17:57 <luke-jr_work> you are?
17:57  * luke-jr_work confused, thought you were MBC
17:58 <wrtlprnft> i'm a MBC member
17:58 <luke-jr_work> but a CT admin?
18:00 <wrtlprnft> http://tinyurl.com/yfm4cq
18:00 <luke-jr_work> ... so CT has admins that are non-members... right...
18:01 <wrtlprnft> yep
18:01 <luke-jr_work> since when does CT have admins at all? O.o
18:01 <wrtlprnft> they have ONE admin that is a non-member
18:01 <luke-jr_work> ed told me he can't make others admin
18:01 <wrtlprnft> not ingame
18:01 <luke-jr_work> o
18:01 <luke-jr_work> O.o
18:01 <wrtlprnft> i have shell access and all that
18:01 <luke-jr_work> shell access > in-game access
18:01 <luke-jr_work> wtf? ;p
18:01 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it is
18:02 <wrtlprnft> note that i did some other programming before, so he trusts me
18:02 <luke-jr_work> so he can give people shell, but not in-game.. makes no sense IMO
18:02 <wrtlprnft> for him, paid :P
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19:05 <spidey> o.O
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19:47 <spidey>  /whois spidey
19:47 <spidey> gr
19:53 <luke-jr_work> rg
20:07 -!- Traveler9 [n=traveler@p50873152.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
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20:18 <Program1> cool, freenode offers a java client
20:19 <wrtlprnft> it does?
20:19 <Program1> yep
20:19 <Program1> http://java.freenode.net/index.php?nick=Program&channel=armagetron
20:20 <wrtlprnft> probably need to enable java
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20:20 <Program9> neat
20:21 <Program9> at least this one's 201cofficial201d
20:21 <wrtlprnft> eek
20:21 <wrtlprnft> doesn't support utf-8
20:21 <wrtlprnft> “test”
20:21 <wrtlprnft> at least doesn't support sending it
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20:23 <wrtlprnft> argh, duh
20:23 <wrtlprnft> darn dealing with angles
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20:26 <Program1> hah, annoying colored text
20:26 <Program0> hi
20:26 <Program0> who are you?
20:26 <Program1> z-man experimenting
20:26 <z-man> that's true
20:27 <Program0> right
20:27 <Program1> and you?
20:27 <Program0> im nobody
20:27 <Program0> just some text in your screen
20:27 <Program1> uuh, getting philosophical?
20:28 <Program0> well, i wil stop if its hard to understand for you
20:28 <Program1> nah, but I'm finished with testing for now. This thing is good enough to be linked from the Wiki with the other web-based clients.
20:29 <Program1> and it's dinner time! yum.
20:29 -!- Program1 [n=program@p50873152.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
20:29 <Program0> peace
20:29 <wrtlprnft> z-man: try eliza :P
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20:30 <wrtlprnft> in fact it's better than everything else as it's maintained by freenode. And it's the same client as another one that's linked from the wiki, so that could be deleted
20:31 <z-man> Which one? I actually tried embedding that client on an own webpage, but due to Java' s security model, that wouldn't really work without a relay for the chat.
20:32 <z-man> THat was, of course, before I found the freenode maintained one.
20:32 <wrtlprnft> sec
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20:33 <wrtlprnft> http://www.irc4u.com/?irc_server=irc.freenode.org%3A6667&irc_channel=%23armagetron%2C+%23arma-ladle ← this one
20:33 <wrtlprnft> http://java.freenode.net/howto.php
20:34 <wrtlprnft> just use the one on freenode and hotlink it
20:34 <Program7> Is this new?
20:35 <wrtlprnft> what's new?
20:35 <Program7> This chat
20:35 <wrtlprnft> which one is that?
20:36 <wrtlprnft> the irc4u one?
20:36 <Program7> No, this one
20:36 <wrtlprnft> which one? x_X
20:36 <Program7> http://java.freenode.net/index.php?nick=Program&channel=armagetron
20:36 <Program7> that one :P
20:36 <wrtlprnft> ah
20:37 <wrtlprnft> i've never seen it before, otherwise i'd have linked it from the wiki
20:37 <Program7> From where are you writing then
20:37 <wrtlprnft> uh, I'm using IRSSI…
20:37 <luke-jr_work> wtf is Program7 
20:37 <Program7> a nick i think
20:37 <wrtlprnft> z-man: is Program7 not you?
20:38 <luke-jr_work> or 0
20:38 <Program7> I'm not Z-man...
20:38 <wrtlprnft> then who are you :P
20:39 <wrtlprnft> the chat isn't new, no, but the interface you're using probably is
20:39 <Program7> Im your secret admirator :P
20:40 <wrtlprnft> you're coming from the forums then?
20:41 <Program7> Yeh, i was checking whats new and found a link over there
20:41 <Program7> you are using unix then?
20:41 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:43 <Program7> Will you someday say whats the meaning of wrtlprnft?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> actually, I'm saying it a lot
20:44 <wrtlprnft> jet me find the last spot
20:44 <wrtlprnft> so i don't have to say it again :P
20:44 <Program7> ok :P
20:45 <luke-jr_work> Program7, wtf r u
20:46 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.crazy-tronners.com/viewtopic.php?p=9110#9110
20:46 <Program7> I think im a person luke...
20:47 <wrtlprnft> w can mean “what” or “who” :P
20:49 <Program7> Saying it would change the situation
20:49 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has joined #armagetron
20:49 <wrtlprnft> probably ady, just guessing…
20:49 <madmax|pt> hello
20:50 <wrtlprnft> hi madmax|pt 
20:50 <wrtlprnft> everyone cloaking their hostname now :/
20:50 <madmax|pt> well, why not? :P
20:51 -!- Program7 is now known as test
20:51 <luke-jr_work> eck, ady
20:51 <luke-jr_work> the guy who wants to reinvent the wheel using sand
20:51 -!- test is now known as wrtl
20:51 <wrtlprnft> o_O
20:52 <wrtl> oh shit
20:52 <wrtlprnft> i should register that nick
20:52 <wrtl> wait
20:52 -!- wrtl is now known as wrtl-knows-who-i
20:52 -!- You're now known as wrtl
20:52 <wrtl-knows-who-i> mhh nick limit i guess
20:52 <wrtl> yeah
20:52 <wrtl-knows-who-i> <- am
20:52 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
20:53 <wrtlprnft> done, registered and linked
20:53 -!- wrtl-knows-who-i is now known as ADy
20:53 <madmax|pt> well, .es
20:53 -!- ADy is now known as Ady
20:54 <wrtlprnft> #serverlist
20:54 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
20:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ESAMU Armagetron Server (8 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || Nixda.net - Sumo Server (6 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || -=}ID< (1 more message)
20:54 <wrtlprnft> oops, wrong command
20:54 <Ady> ?
20:54 <wrtlprnft> #serverinfo crazy tr
20:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (11/14): *~LoD~*ElDiablo, G5, niro, Ogre Battle, pavelo, Pluto, siro, SL ( ??? ), STP, ~*SP*~ Roflmao, ~[xS]~Square
20:54 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen ady
20:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wayne brady has last been seen on Strawberry Fields 0 days 18 hours 47 minutes ago.
20:54 <wrtlprnft> duh
20:54 <Ady> haha
20:55 <luke-jr_work> Ady, so you still reinventing the wheel with sand?
20:55 <luke-jr_work> or did you decide to do something useful?
20:55 <Ady> kinda, but im using glue
20:55 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen Lµc
20:55 <luke-jr_work> wtf is glue
20:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
20:55 <wrtlprnft> darn, i don't know your exact nick
20:55 <Ady> wrtl- LoD|Ady
20:55 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen LoD|Ady
20:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: LoD|Ady~PKC has last been seen on 2020 team challenge 1 days 0 hours 15 minutes ago.
20:56 <Ady> nice bot
20:56 <wrtlprnft> oh, i thought you were still using special chars in your nick
20:56 <Ady> no, i got tired of that
20:56 <wrtlprnft> that would break it
20:57 <Ady> is there a #help command?
20:57 <luke-jr_work> wtf is glue
20:57 <luke-jr_work> #list
20:57 <armabot> luke-jr_work: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
20:57 <luke-jr_work> #list rss
20:57 <armabot> luke-jr_work: add, announce, armaservers, armawiki, info, reddit, remove, and rss
20:57 <wrtlprnft> #g 12345 seconds in minutes
20:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 12,345 seconds = 205.75 minutes
20:57 <Ady> superglue, havent u ever heard about it :P
20:58 <Ady> #help
20:58 <armabot> Ady: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
20:58 <Ady> hm
20:58 <wrtlprnft> #help last
20:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
20:58 <wrtlprnft> #last --from ady --with wrt
20:58 <Ady> #list
20:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [20:54:39] <Ady> wrtl- LoD|Ady
20:58 <armabot> Ady: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
20:59 <Ady> never used irc
20:59 <luke-jr_work> Ady, write a XMPP to IRC bridge ;p
20:59 <Ady> i probably will publish the code if this gets popular
21:00 <Ady> that was i avoid to do it
21:00 <Ady> (XMPP)
21:00 <luke-jr_work> ...
21:00 <luke-jr_work> it won't get popular ;P
21:00 <Ady> then why to do it?
21:00 <luke-jr_work> eh
21:00 <luke-jr_work> a bridge would
21:00 <Ady> the xmpp...
21:00 <luke-jr_work> thought you meant your reinvention
21:00 <Ady> my reinvetnion
21:01 <Ady> talking about that, the public chat feature its ready
21:01 <Ady> just ended today
21:01 <wrtlprnft> use IRC, it's better suited for chat rooms IMHO
21:01 <luke-jr_work> nobody will use it unless it's XMPP/MUC or IRC compat
21:01 <wrtlprnft> and older, there's more servers, more clients and everything
21:01 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, IRC is just an older version of MUC
21:01 <luke-jr_work> I've seen more XMPP clients than IRC
21:02 <Ady> Can i ask you both a personal question
21:02 <Ady> its not very personal...
21:02 <luke-jr_work> ...
21:02 <Ady> age?
21:02 <luke-jr_work> 21
21:03 <Ady> waiting for wrtl....1%
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21:03 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:04 <Compn> ady wants to know your age wrtl
21:04 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, he asked your age
21:04 <Ady> :)
21:04 <Ady> ow a smilie
21:04 <luke-jr_work> ...
21:04 <wrtlprnft> sqrt(289)
21:04 <luke-jr_work> lol
21:04 <Ady> and in christian?
21:04 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, readyy?
21:04 <luke-jr_work> really*
21:04 <luke-jr_work> Ady, um... wtf?
21:05 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(289)
21:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(289) = 17
21:05 <luke-jr_work> English's decimal numbering is Arabic, anything but Christian.....
21:05 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, you're only 17??
21:05 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: yeah
21:05 <Ady> I dont feel like believing that
21:05 <wrtlprnft> why?
21:05 <luke-jr_work> nothing
21:06  * luke-jr_work feels old
21:06 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034193025.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
21:06  * wrtlprnft feels young
21:06 <wrtlprnft> hi Vanhayes 
21:06 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (11 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || ESAMU Armagetron Server (7 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (5 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (1 more message)
21:06 <Vanhayes> hello
21:06  * Ady says hi
21:06  * Vanhayes feels old
21:06 <Vanhayes> hey
21:06 <Ady> Are you really a girl?
21:07 <luke-jr_work> ...
21:07 <luke-jr_work> nobody chatting right now is female, afaik
21:07 <Vanhayes> I am a guy
21:07 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: armabot is :P
21:07 <Ady> He said me that bulshit one day :P
21:07 <Ady> armabot: hi darling
21:07 <luke-jr_work> Ady, watch your language!!
21:07 <Ady> sorry
21:08 <Vanhayes> armabot: do
21:08 <armabot> no
21:08 <luke-jr_work> lol
21:08 <wrtlprnft> never heard about swearing being forbidden in here
21:08 <Ady> armabot:hi
21:08 <Vanhayes> armabot: do you say hi?
21:08 <armabot> no
21:08 <Ady> haha
21:09 <wrtlprnft> #eliza hi
21:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
21:09 <Ady> armabot: do you think vanhayes is a boy?
21:09 <armabot> no
21:09 <wrtlprnft> #eliza i have a problem.
21:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Why do you say you have a problem?
21:09 <Ady> ow
21:09 <wrtlprnft> :P
21:09 <wrtlprnft> it's quite stupid, though
21:09 <Vanhayes> #eliza bitch
21:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: Can you elaborate on that?
21:09 <Vanhayes> #eliza you are a bitch
21:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: Please, watch your tongue!
21:09 <Vanhayes> heh love that
21:10 <Ady> is there an "armabot" manual somewhere?
21:10 <Compn> #eliza where is god?
21:10 <armabot> Compn: What do you think?
21:10 <Compn> #eliza uh uh 
21:10 <armabot> Compn: Why do you say uh uh?
21:10 <wrtlprnft> Ady: not really
21:10 <Vanhayes> #list
21:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
21:10 <wrtlprnft> there's some stuff on the wiki
21:10 <Ady> #eliza who are you
21:10 <armabot> Ady: Why do you say who are me?
21:10 <Ady> stupid
21:10 <Compn> ady wants to know the command to list armabot's options :)
21:10 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/IRC_Channel
21:10 <wrtlprnft> Ady: told you the eliza implementation sucks
21:11 <wrtlprnft> #list alias
21:11 <Vanhayes> #t english to fench I like peanut butter at night
21:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, ultimate, unlock, and wikipedia
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: "'fench'" is not a valid language.  Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish
21:11 <Vanhayes> #t english to french I like peanut butter at night
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
21:11 <Ady> haha
21:11 <Vanhayes> bah
21:11 <wrtlprnft> guh
21:11 <wrtlprnft> *dug
21:11 <wrtlprnft> *duh
21:11 <Vanhayes> ha
21:12 <Ady> #t english to Italian I like eating cheese.
21:12 <armabot> Ady: Gradisco mangiare il formaggio.
21:12 <Ady> #t english to Japanese I like eating cheese.
21:12 <armabot> Ady: '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00'
21:12 <Ady> ow
21:12 <wrtlprnft> lol
21:13 <Ady> oh do i see spanish?
21:13 <Ady> #t english to Spanish Hi there my love.
21:13 <armabot> Ady: Hi allí mi amor.
21:13 <Ady> not very correct, but possible to understand
21:14 <luke-jr_work> Japanese doesn't work
21:14 <Ady> Sometimes the wiki or forum doesnt load
21:14 <Ady> or load for ever
21:14 <wrtlprnft> Ady: no translation service is perfect
21:15 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, btw, were we going to make that machine an armagetron box?
21:15 <luke-jr_work> eg, move websites and such to it
21:15 <wrtlprnft> well, if the people who are hosting it right now agree to that
21:16 <luke-jr_work> I could use assistance hosting our file archive ;p
21:17 <wrtlprnft> as i said, i would like a resource repository mirror
21:17 <luke-jr_work> me too, but we need to get some method setup to do it
21:17 <wrtlprnft> well
21:17 <wrtlprnft> just rsync once in a while
21:17 <Vanhayes> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?sid=d97a44f3de91e921d9cafdacabfd52a1&p=106731#106731 
21:17 <wrtlprnft> and have the client try all available servers until it finds the map
21:17 <Vanhayes> I love that back handed compliment by 2020
21:17 <Vanhayes> you will rule the world one day, nerd
21:18 <wrtlprnft> even better, choose one at random, and if the chosen one doesn't have it, directly go to the main one
21:18 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: old stuff :P
21:18 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, "once in a while" isn't enough
21:18 <luke-jr_work> existing arma clients don't retry on 404
21:18 <Vanhayes> well. I just got out of school about 30 minutes ago, so its new to me :)
21:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: they do
21:19 <Ady> Guys, how much bandwith does a server use per month? aprox
21:19 <luke-jr_work> really??
21:19 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, sure? last I checked, they don't retry *at all*
21:19 <luke-jr_work> Ady, depends on players
21:20 <Ady> Say an ammount of Mb
21:20 <wrtlprnft> Ady: yo won't get far with MB
21:20 <luke-jr_work> lol
21:20 <wrtlprnft> CTWF is consuming over 75GB/month
21:20 <Ady> In a month 4 servers wasted more than 15 Gb
21:20 <Ady> ow
21:21 <Ady> isnt it 7kb/s per user?
21:21 <luke-jr_work> 56k dialup = 17.3 GB/mo
21:21 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: they do, just a while ago I added a new map to CTWF
21:21 <wrtlprnft> i only had it uploaded to your server
21:21 <wrtlprnft> and forgot to put it onto the CTWF one
21:21 <wrtlprnft> luckily the clients tried the official repository after the initial 404
21:22 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, I'm guessing it's trying different configs
21:22 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, but a RR would work different
21:22 <luke-jr_work> I know lightfoot died when it failed to access via IPv6
21:22 <luke-jr_work> it didn't even try IPv4
21:22 <wrtlprnft> g 7 KB per second in GB per month
21:22 <Vanhayes> #
21:22 <wrtlprnft> g 7 KB per second in GB per month#
21:22 <wrtlprnft> #g 7 KB per second in GB per month
21:22 <wrtlprnft> lol
21:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 7 (KB per second) = 17.5554341 GB per month
21:22 <wrtlprnft> Ady: that's per user
21:22 <Ady> its nt running 24/7....
21:22 <luke-jr_work> Ady, sure it is
21:23 <Ady> not with players
21:23 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: well, it failed with the official server, right?
21:23 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, it failed with the official server's IPv6 address, yes
21:23 <luke-jr_work> and didn't even try the IPv4
21:23 <luke-jr_work> Ady, that's ONE player
21:23 <wrtlprnft> Ady: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/weekdaygraphs/Crazy-Tronners-Wild-Fortress.png
21:24 <wrtlprnft> CTWF has an average of some 8 players on it at any given time
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21:24 <wrtlprnft> #g (7*8) KB per second in GB per month
21:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (7 * 8) * (KB per second) = 140.443472 GB per month
21:24 <wrtlprnft> nah, less, ok
21:24 <wrtlprnft> #g (7*5) KB per second in GB per month
21:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (7 * 5) * (KB per second) = 87.7771703 GB per month
21:24 <wrtlprnft> there ya go
21:25 <Ady> hm
21:25 -!- Nixda942 [n=57a23bea@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
21:25 <luke-jr_work> bandwidth should be exponential too
21:25 <Ady> g2g
21:26 <wrtlprnft> cya
21:26 <Ady> thx 4 all, cya later
21:26 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: not quite
21:26 -!- Ady [n=program@244.Red-83-51-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
21:26 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, in theory, it should be
21:26  * wrtlprnft thinks he might have convinced ady a bit
21:26 <wrtlprnft> no: one player: downrate of one player's turns + uprate of one player's turns
21:27 <wrtlprnft> two players: 2 +4
21:27 <wrtlprnft> two players: 3 + 9
21:27 <wrtlprnft> *three
21:27 <wrtlprnft> four players: 4 + 16
21:27 <wrtlprnft> that's not exponential
21:27 <luke-jr_work> convinced ady of what?
21:28 <wrtlprnft> of this channel, maybe
21:28 <luke-jr_work> heh
21:28 <Vanhayes> armabot is pretty impressive
21:29 <luke-jr_work> except when he takes 2 min to answer a ping
21:29 <luke-jr_work> #ping
21:29 <armabot> pong
21:29 -!- Program4 [n=program@stjhnbsu83w-156034193025.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
21:29 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: that's when SHE was sleeping for a bit
21:30 <Program4> #ping
21:30 <armabot> pong
21:30 -!- Program4 [n=program@stjhnbsu83w-156034193025.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Client Quit]
21:30 <wrtlprnft> remind you, the server it's running on isn't exactly strong
21:30 <Vanhayes> #pong
21:30 <armabot> ping
21:30 <luke-jr_work> lol
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21:35 <madmax|pt> freenode's client ftw
21:35 <luke-jr_work> lol
21:36 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has joined #armagetron
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21:42 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron
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21:49 <bober> hallo
21:49 <guru3> 'lo
21:50 <bober> where are you ?
21:51 <luke-jr_work> ..
21:51 <luke-jr_work> he's in Sweden
21:51 <luke-jr_work> or somewhere around there
21:52 <guru3> ish
21:54 <bober> im from Russia
21:54 <bober> sibiria
21:56 <spidey> i bet i created  room with more spam than any other =D
21:56 <bober> why you dont say ?
21:56 -!- luke [n=luke@adsl-70-128-250-253.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
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21:57 <Vanhayes> #list alias
21:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, ultimate, unlock, and wikipedia
21:57 <Vanhayes> hmm
22:02 <bober> you know russian chanels ?
22:02 <wrtlprnft> i'm sure there are some
22:02 <wrtlprnft> try /list
22:02 <wrtlprnft> but it's a loooong list
22:03 <bober> im know )
22:08 <bober> what you know about RUSSIA ?
22:08 <spidey> o.O
22:08 <madmax|pt> they once lost with Portugal for 7-1 :D
22:09 <spidey> lol
22:10 <spidey> wrtlprnft, 
22:10 <madmax|pt> that's football btw
22:10 <spidey> still got that dedicated server link?
22:10 <GodTodd> no...that's soccer :P
22:10  * spidey lost his bookmarks =(
22:10 <GodTodd> heh
22:11 <madmax|pt> no GodTodd, no.
22:11 <spidey> soccor!
22:11 -!- Commn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
22:11 <spidey> #dict soccor
22:11 <armabot> spidey: No definition for "soccor" could be found.
22:11 <spidey> #dict soccer
22:11 <armabot> spidey: wn: soccer n : a football game in which two teams of 11 players try to kick or head a ball into the opponents' goal [syn: {association football}]
22:11 <wrtlprnft> spidey: yeah
22:11 <spidey> =|
22:11 <madmax|pt> that's biased
22:11 <madmax|pt> #dict football
22:11 <armabot> madmax|pt: wn and gcide responded: wn: football n 1: any of various games played with a ball (round or oval) in which two teams try to kick or carry or propel the ball into each other's goal [syn: {football game}] 2: the inflated oblong ball used in playing American football; gcide: football \foot"ball`\, n. An inflated ball to be kicked in sport, usually made in India rubber, or a bladder incased in Leather. (2 more messages)
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22:11 <spidey> pwned
22:12 <madmax|pt> that's biased too
22:12 <spidey> nah
22:12 <spidey> it's truths
22:12 <wrtlprnft> http://www.hetzner.de/rootserver_en.html
22:12 <spidey> wrtlprnft, thanks
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22:12 <Vanhayes> #dict Hockey
22:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: wn and gcide responded: gcide: Hockey \Hock"ey\, n. [From {Hook}, n.] 1. A game in which two parties of players, armed with sticks curved or hooked at the end, attempt to drive any small object (as a ball or a bit of wood) toward opposite goals. [1913 Webster] 2. The stick used by the players. [Written also {hookey} and {hawkey}.] [1913 Webster]; wn: hockey n 1: hockey played on a field; two opposing (1 more message)
22:12 <wrtlprnft> spidey: yw
22:12 <GodTodd> the world will see things our way or we'll invade and force the issue....we have a republican in charge ;)
22:13 <spidey> about what's the clock speed for a 2000+?
22:13 <madmax|pt> uh oh
22:13 <Nixda140> #lastseen jaeger
22:13 <armabot> Nixda140: timed out
22:13 <spidey> GodTodd, senate's controled by democrats =p
22:13 <GodTodd> it is now
22:13 <GodTodd> thank luke!
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22:13 <Vanhayes> that means they havent been seen since armabot has been up
22:13 <madmax|pt> hookey sounds nice
22:13 <Nixda140> #lastseen jaegermeister
22:14 <spidey> senate = decides if it's ok for war in democracy
22:14 <spidey> =p
22:14 <armabot> Nixda140: timed out
22:14 <GodTodd> thought it was congress
22:14 <spidey> hmm
22:14 <GodTodd> as a whole
22:14 <Vanhayes> spidey is thinking rome
22:14 <spidey> ?
22:14 <spidey> wtf's that got to do with rome
22:14 <GodTodd> rome is where we *get* the senate
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22:15 <spidey> them we
22:15 -!- Ady [n=ady@244.Red-83-51-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #armagetron
22:15 <Vanhayes> how are you doing in history spidey ?
22:15 <spidey> actually
22:15 <spidey> i have straight A's
22:15 <spidey> =)
22:15 <spidey> 100 accross the board
22:15 <spidey> =D
22:15 <GodTodd> and hayes doesn't know much about war....he's canadian, eh?
22:15 <spidey> haha
22:15 <Vanhayes> hey we beat you
22:15  * madmax|pt doesnt know much about the federal republic system
22:15 <spidey> that was ages ago
22:15 <Vanhayes> might have been some 200 years ago but we did it
22:16 <GodTodd> yeah yeah...do it now you wusses :P
22:16 <Vanhayes> well almost 200 
22:16 <GodTodd> heh
22:16 <spidey> besides canada is basically french people who hate france
22:16 <spidey> =p
22:16 <GodTodd> nah
22:16 <Vanhayes> nah its enough that we know we can heh
22:16 <GodTodd> just quebec
22:16 <spidey> close enough =D
22:16 <Vanhayes> damn quebecans
22:16 <GodTodd> the rest are wannabe english
22:16 <spidey> lol
22:17 <GodTodd> as opposed to aussies who are descendents of english criminals
22:17 <spidey> o.O
22:17 <Vanhayes> I never understood that
22:17 <Vanhayes> send the criminals to a better place than where you live?
22:18 <spidey> i have lady bugs all over the place
22:18 <GodTodd> well....afaik the english at the time thought it was all outback
22:18 <spidey> fucking things keep flying at me
22:18 <Vanhayes> all the bugs are dead here
22:18 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
22:18 <spidey> can't even drink my so coke =|
22:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM AST; Tonight - Rain at times heavy. Amount 30 to 40 mm. Fog patches. Wind becoming southeast 20 km/h gusting to 40 overnight. Temperature steady near 10.; Thursday - Rain changing to drizzle late in the morning. Amount 10 to 15 mm. Fog (1 more message)
22:18 <Vanhayes> what is a so coke?
22:18 <GodTodd> so coke
22:18 <GodTodd> ?
22:18 <spidey> lol
22:18 <spidey> my coke*
22:18 <spidey> =p
22:19 <GodTodd> thought maybe it was coke and soco
22:19 <Vanhayes> where did the so come from?
22:19 <Vanhayes> lol
22:19 <spidey> not sure
22:19 <Vanhayes> #more
22:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: patches. Wind southeast 20 km/h gusting to 40. High 15. Thursday night..cloudy. Fog patches dissipating overnight. Wind becoming west 20 km/h overnight. Low 8.; Friday - Sunny. High 10.;
22:19 <spidey> i was swatting lady bugs
22:19 <GodTodd> mmmmmmmm soco coke
22:19 <spidey> =p
22:19 <Vanhayes> hmm do you guys where poppies down there?
22:19 <Vanhayes> wear*
22:19 <spidey> poppies?
22:20 <Vanhayes> is that a no?
22:20 <spidey> wtf's poppies
22:21 <Vanhayes> #dict poppy
22:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: wn and gcide responded: wn: poppy n : annual or biennial or perennial herbs having showy flowers; gcide: Poppy \Pop"py\, Poppyhead \Pop"py*head`\, n. [F. poup['e]e doll, puppet. See {Puppet}.] (Arch.) A raised ornament frequently having the form of a final. It is generally used on the tops of the upright ends or elbows which terminate seats, etc., in Gothic churches. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Poppy (3 more messages)
22:21 <Vanhayes> #more
22:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: \Pop"py\, n.; pl. {Poppies}. [OE. popy, AS. popig, L. papaver.] (Bot.) Any plant or species of the genus {Papaver}, herbs with showy polypetalous flowers and a milky juice. From one species ({Papaver somniferum}) opium is obtained, though all the species contain it to some extent; also, a flower of the plant. See Illust. of {Capsule}. [1913 Webster] {California poppy} (Bot.), any yellow-flowered plant of the (2 more messages)
22:21 <Vanhayes> #more
22:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: genus {Eschscholtzia}. {Corn poppy}. See under {Corn}. {Horn poppy}, or {Horned poppy}. See under {Horn}. {Poppy bee} (Zool.), a leaf-cutting bee ({Anthocopa papaveris}) which uses pieces cut from poppy petals for the lining of its cells; -- called also {upholsterer bee}. {Prickly poppy} (Bot.), {Argemone Mexicana}, a yellow-flowered plant of the Poppy family, but as prickly as a thistle. {Poppy seed}, the (1 more message)
22:21 <Vanhayes> #more
22:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: seed the opium poppy ({Papaver somniferum}). {Spatling poppy} (Bot.), a species of Silene ({Silene inflata}). See {Catchfly}. [1913 Webster] Poppy
22:21 <spidey> ....
22:21 <Vanhayes> #wiki poppies
22:21 <Vanhayes> #wikipedia poppies
22:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.18 seconds: Poppy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy>; California poppy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Poppy>; Tall poppy syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome>; Corn poppy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
22:22 <madmax|pt> "tall poppy syndrome"
22:22 <madmax|pt> oO
22:22 <spidey> i think they ment corn puppy
22:22 <spidey> =p
22:23 <Vanhayes> we wear poppies here for rememberance day
22:23 <spidey> wtf's a poppy
22:23 <Vanhayes> not real ones of course, those wouldnt last long
22:23 <madmax|pt> so that's a flower?
22:23 <spidey> #wiki poppy clothes
22:23 <Vanhayes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy
22:24 <GodTodd> wearing poppies...and canadians *really* want us to believe they're *not* gay?
22:24 <GodTodd> ;)
22:24 <spidey> haha
22:24 <Vanhayes> go wear your ribbons
22:24 <spidey> eh?
22:24 <spidey> we don't wear ribbons...
22:25 <GodTodd> we put them on our pickup trucks and suvs
22:25 <GodTodd> :P
22:25 <spidey> we do?
22:25 <spidey> thought those where bumberstickers
22:25 <GodTodd> a lot do, yeah
22:25 <GodTodd> nah...the magnets too
22:25 <spidey> oh
22:25 <GodTodd> and window decals
22:25 <spidey> those things
22:25 <Vanhayes> I always see those when i go down there
22:25 <Vanhayes> usually yellow
22:25 <spidey> Vanhayes, yankees don't count
22:25 <spidey> =p
22:26 <Vanhayes> your all yankees
22:26 <spidey> ...
22:26 <spidey> you're farther north than us
22:26 <GodTodd> the "support your troops even tho your president is a wank" things
22:26 <madmax|pt> stereotype alert?
22:26  * GodTodd is *not* a yank.
22:26 <spidey> GodTodd, i saw one today
22:26 <spidey> it said
22:26 <spidey> "send our kids to college not war"
22:26 <spidey> o.O
22:26 <Vanhayes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day
22:26 <Vanhayes> thats why we wear poppies
22:27 <GodTodd> remembrance day..is that like memorial day or more like veterans day?
22:27 <spidey> is a day to commemorate the sacrifice of veterans and civilians
22:27 <spidey> what ya think? =p
22:28 <Vanhayes> well I guess its the same as your veterans day, if thats on the 11th
22:28 <GodTodd> see...we have that....but we don't gay out for it.
22:28 <spidey> lol
22:28 <Vanhayes> ya you just put ribbons on things all year round
22:28 <spidey> no
22:28 <GodTodd> nah...just while we're at war
22:28 <Ady> ·math 12/73
22:28 <Ady> ops
22:28 <GodTodd> which lately is all year round
22:28 <GodTodd> heh
22:29 <Vanhayes> thats what I said
22:29 <Vanhayes> heh
22:29 <GodTodd> note the word *lately* :P
22:29 <Ady> #math 12/73
22:29 <GodTodd> #g 12/73
22:29 <wrtlprnft> #g pi * 8
22:29 <armabot> GodTodd: 12 / 73 = 0.164383562
22:29 <spidey> i'ma laugh if they find oil in canada
22:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: pi * 8 = 25.1327412
22:29 <Ady> mh
22:29 <spidey> and cananda doesn't let other places drill it
22:29 <spidey> =p
22:29 <Ady> ok...
22:30 <Vanhayes> we have oil...
22:30 <GodTodd> canada will only let you drill it if you're the same sex
22:30 <Ady> #g 212/1050
22:30 <spidey> lol
22:30 <armabot> Ady: 212 / 1,050 = 0.201904762
22:30 <GodTodd> seriously i like canadians....even though i can't find my red green show anymore :/
22:31 <Ady> how was the ocnversion command
22:32 <GodTodd> depends on what you're converting
22:32 <Ady> db into wats
22:32 <spidey> #g 1 DB in wats
22:32 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:32 <spidey> #g 1 db in wats
22:32 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:32 <spidey> ..
22:32 <GodTodd> #g 1 db in watts
22:32 <armabot> GodTodd: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:33 <Ady> #g 1 Db in watts
22:33 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:33 <spidey> #g 1 db in watts
22:33 <Ady> beh
22:33 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:33 <spidey> #g 1 watt in db
22:33 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:33 <Ady> lol
22:33 <madmax|pt> db?
22:33 <Ady> decibels
22:33 <spidey> #g 1 decibel in watts
22:33 <GodTodd> can you convert db to watts?
22:33 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:33 <Ady> #g 1 decibel inwatts
22:33 <madmax|pt> to watts? oO
22:33 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:34 <Ady> 30 watt ~7 Db
22:34 <Ady> *70
22:34 <spidey> #g 1 db in watt
22:34 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:34 <spidey> hmm
22:34 <Ady> #g 17 years in seconds
22:34 <armabot> Ady: 17 years = 536,467,742 seconds
22:34 <Ady> a lot of them
22:35 <Ady> #g 17 years in nanoseconds
22:35 <armabot> Ady: 17 years = 5.36467742 * 10^(17) nanoseconds
22:35 <Vanhayes> #g 18 years 38 days in seconds
22:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: 18 years 38 days = 571,307,868 seconds
22:35 <Ady> #g 18 years 38 days in teraseconds
22:35 <armabot> Ady: 18 years 38 days = 0.000571307868 teraseconds
22:35 <Ady> ha!
22:36 <Ady> #g microsoft
22:36 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:37 <GodTodd> Convert mW to dBm:   PdBm = 10 Log PmW
22:37 <Ady> the bot doesnt work on private chat? 
22:37 <wrtlprnft> Ady: you can use #google for searches
22:37 <Ady> ah ok
22:37 <wrtlprnft> Ady: you'd need to be registered
22:37 <Ady> #google wrtlprmft
22:37 <armabot> Ady: Search took 0.11 seconds: Counting My Outs - Michael's Poker Blog: <http://countingmyouts.blogspot.com/2005_12_01_countingmyouts_archive.html>; Ladbrokes Poker - Tournaments: <http://www.ladbrokespoker.com/community/tournaments/leagues/cash/weekly/?id=3>
22:37 <wrtlprnft> not that guy!
22:38 <Ady> lol
22:38 <wrtlprnft> i'm totally unrelated to that
22:38 <GodTodd> sure sure
22:38 <wrtlprnft> #list admin
22:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
22:38 <Ady> #sorry
22:38 <Ady> #weather santander
22:38 <madmax|pt> hm, you can /msg the bot
22:39 <Ady> yes? cool
22:39 <armabot> Ady: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
22:39 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: only registered users can, trying to change that
22:39 <wrtlprnft> armabot's gonna be down for a second
22:39 <madmax|pt> oh, was thinking registered as in registered to the bot
22:39 <GodTodd> armabot's going down?
22:39 -!- armabot [n=armabot@] has quit ["wrtlprnft"]
22:39 <GodTodd> what a bot ;)
22:39 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:40 <wrtlprnft> gonna make her accept unregistered messages
22:40 -!- You're now known as armabot
22:40 <Ady> GodTodd, never seen you on game..or maybe yes?
22:40 <GodTodd> i go on sometimes
22:40 <Ady> with which nick
22:40 <GodTodd> same
22:40 <Ady> never cu
22:41 <GodTodd> probably not
22:41 <GodTodd> :)
22:41 <Ady> :'(
22:41 <Ady> :')
22:42 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
22:42 <Ady> have you guys thought about making accounts for playing the game
22:42 <Ady> with its pass, mail and so on
22:42 <wrtlprnft> ok, she's rejoining
22:42 <Ady> what was her name
22:42 <wrtlprnft> armabot
22:42 <Ady> ...
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22:42 <wrtlprnft> i think she'll accept unregistered messages now
22:43 <Ady> yes
22:44 -!- DrJoeTr0n [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-36-178-77.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
22:45 <GodTodd> heya JoeFag ;)
22:45 <GodTodd> heh
22:46 <spidey> lol
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> I love bots that go down
22:48 <Ady> #time Hi lucifer
22:48 <GodTodd> it was only for a sec tho :/
22:48 <armabot> Ady: Error: 'lucifer' is not a valid floating point number.
22:48 <Ady> hm
22:48 <Ady> hi lucifer
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to play a game of freeciv where me and vanhayes take on the rest of you
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> and win, of course, but that's a foregone conclusion
22:49 <Vanhayes> of course
22:49 <Ady> :P
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> hi Ady (prick) 
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> hahahaha
22:49 <Ady> #google prick
22:49 <armabot> Ady: Search took 0.16 seconds: PRICK Magazine - The World's First Free Tattoo & Piercing ...: <http://www.prickmag.net/>; PRICK Magazine - Tattoos - The World's First Free Tattoo ...: <http://www.prickmag.net/tattoos.html>; Urban Legends Reference Pages: Pin Prick Attacks: <http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/pinprick.asp>; Prick Up Your Ears (1987): <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093776/>; Insolent Prick: (2 more messages)
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> nevermind that (prick) part, that was something I stuck in my irc client awhile back
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> hi GodTodd (prick) 
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> hi DrJoeTr0n (prick) 
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> see?
22:49 <Ady> oh
22:49 <GodTodd> the difference is...i *am* a prick
22:49 <GodTodd> heh
22:49 <Ady> #weather hell
22:50 <armabot> Ady: The current temperature in Hellisøy, Norway is 36.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Wind: SE at 2 mph (3 km/h).
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
22:50 <Ady> lol
22:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 84.4°F (3:49 PM CST on November 08, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003.3 hPa (Falling). 
22:50 <GodTodd> that's why perry got elected...
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> if pressure is falling, that means there's a cold front blowing in, right?
22:50 <GodTodd> it's a cold day in hell
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> man, he got elected with 38% of the votes
22:50 <GodTodd> i know
22:50 <GodTodd> that shows a bunch of people don't want him
22:50 <GodTodd> 62%
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'm looking at the results with 99% of the precincts reporting, and bell did a good job closing the gap, but not quite good enough
22:51 <GodTodd> yeah...last i knew with 90% he was 3-4K votes behind
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> 43% voted for bell's platform, just that 13% voted for Friedman
22:51 <GodTodd> 3-400K that is
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> if you take half of strayhorn's and give them to bell, you get a majority at 52%
22:51 <Ady> #insult Ady
22:51 <armabot> Ady - You are nothing but a despicable heap of beslubbering fat. 
22:52 <GodTodd> if we had only had 3 candidates i think bell would have won
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> and if we had only 2, bell would have won in a landslide
22:52 <GodTodd> definitely
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> man, I hate having only 1 vote.  Guaranteed if we had a ranked system bell would have won
22:53 <GodTodd> depends on the ranking system
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> we hve the technology to sort and tally billions of ranked votes
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> I like the system that just goes round by round until a candidate has a majority
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> I don't object to eliminating the lowest-ranked candidate, but I don't like instant run-off voting
22:54 <GodTodd> yeah...he with the smallest amount gets gone then we vote on the ones left
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> because it's still too partisan for my tastes.  :)  Instead of only including the two highest candidates from the first round, I'd just keep all the candidates and go every round
22:54 <GodTodd> i'd eliminate the lowest each round till it's a runoff
22:54 <Ady> question: whos perry?
22:54 <GodTodd> governor of texas
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, you still vote once, it's just that on your ballot you'd have to rank the candidates.  So I could pick Friedman for my first choice, Bell for my second, etc.
22:54 <wrtlprnft> what about just repeating the vote until the guy Lucifer_arma likes gets a majority?
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> Perry is the idiot missing from his village
22:55 <Ady> oh
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: that's a great idea!
22:55 <GodTodd> i vote for a dictatorship with me in charge
22:55 <wrtlprnft> even better: repeat the vote until Lucifer_arma is president
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> someone keeps saying "somewhere in texas a village is missing its idiot".  What that guy doesn't know is that there are *2* villages missing idiots
22:56 <GodTodd> heh if Lucifer_arma were president i might just have to move in with hayes ;)
22:56 <DrJoeTr0n> buh?
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> you like getting bombed?
22:56 <GodTodd> you gonna bomb canada?
22:56 <spidey> rofl
22:56 <GodTodd> then i'll move in with vincente fox 
22:56 <DrJoeTr0n> I'm a prick too!
22:57 <wrtlprnft> canada has half your atomic defense system :P
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, I don't see any reason continuing the canada myth of independence.
22:57 <spidey> hey
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> we'll just formalize what everyone's always known: canada's the weirdest-talking US state
22:57 <GodTodd> start with quebec...they'll fall easily...they're french
22:57 <spidey> leave canada alone, where else will our criminals go?
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> you mean Clinton?
22:57 <GodTodd> weirdest talking....you've been to wisconsin and minnesota, right? ;)
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> yes, I have.  :)
22:58 <wrtlprnft> canadians don't talg weird, eh?
22:58 <GodTodd> they're in the running for weirdest talking
22:58 <wrtlprnft> *talk
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've never been to canada, and I've rarely been near canada, yet I periodically get asked if I'm Canadian
22:58  * GodTodd loves the movie strange brew....that's my traditional thanksgiving movie.
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> my traditional thanksgiving movie is Debbie Does Dallas
22:59 <GodTodd> that's my nightly movie
22:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you're canadian?
22:59 <GodTodd> yes
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> so it looks like the Democrats are likely to win COngress, but one senate vote is probably going to a recount
22:59 <GodTodd> yes he is
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> no, no I'm not
23:00 <GodTodd> you are too...don't try to hide it anymore
23:00 <spidey> i'll take todds word for it
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> quiet, eh?
23:00 <GodTodd> i'm pulling you out of the hockey stick closet
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a cowboy-hat-wearin'-Texan
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> for real, I wear a cowboy hat
23:00 <spidey> and you call me a redneck? 
23:00 <spidey> =p
23:00 <GodTodd> you grew up a jet-hearin' new mexican :P
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's a genuine INdiana Jones hat, but it's still a cowboy hat
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> I did not.  I just did time in New Mexico.  Not the same thing as being a New Mexican!
23:01 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:01 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:01 <GodTodd> hahaha
23:01 <GodTodd> i did 11 years in that hellhole
23:02 <spidey> ?
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> Austin is my home.  :)  It is, after all, where I hang my hat.
23:02 <GodTodd> plano is where i set my hat (no where to hang it) :/
23:02 <spidey> lol
23:02 <Ady> i dont have a hat
23:02 <spidey> ...
23:03 -!- GodTodd is now known as ToddShitting
23:03 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as LuciShittingToo
23:03 <spidey> we didn't need to know that
23:03 <luke-jr_work> O.o
23:03 -!- spidey is now known as spideyshittingon
23:03 <spideyshittingon> 'er
23:03 -!- spideyshittingon is now known as spidey
23:03 <spidey> last part of that was supposed to be luke
23:03 <spidey> =(
23:04 <Ady> hm
23:05 <Ady> why on luke
23:05 <spidey> who else is there?
23:05 <spidey> besides hayes left
23:05 <Ady> hm
23:06 <[Xpert]DarkStar> is everyone having a good shit?
23:06 <Ady> just do not shit:P
23:06 <spidey> lol
23:06 <Ady> #google shit
23:06 <armabot> Ady: No matches found. (Search took 0.00 seconds)
23:06 <Ady> nice
23:06 <spidey> http://www.google.com/search?q=shit&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
23:06 <spidey> =p
23:06 <Ady> haha
23:06 <spidey> #help google
23:06 <armabot> spidey: (google <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results.
23:06 <spidey> #google search shit
23:06 <armabot> spidey: Search took 0.23 seconds: Metasearch Search Engine - Search .com: <http://www.search.com/>; Google: <http://www.google.com/>; SEARCH : The National Consortium for Justice Information and ...: <http://www.search.org/>; Yahoo! Search - Web Search: <http://search.yahoo.com/>; My Excite: <http://www.excite.com/>; Search the Web: <http://search.aol.com/>; Dogpile Web Search Home Page: (1 more message)
23:06 <spidey> =p
23:07 <Ady> hows the translator
23:07 <spidey> #google search french spidey
23:07 <armabot> spidey: Search took 0.34 seconds: Pentagon Uses Its Spidey Sense For the Troops: <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR2005042801995.html>; Teens@Random-- Search | Fly on the Wall by E. Lockhart: <http://www.randomhouse.com/teens/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385732819&view=excerpt>; Flickr: Photos tagged with france: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/france/?page=4>; French (2 more messages)
23:07 <spidey> o.O
23:08 <Ady> hahaha
23:08 <Ady> spidey sense for the troops.....
23:08 <spidey> lol
23:09 <Ady> #translate spanish to english hole , como están?
23:10 <armabot> Ady: hole, as they are?
23:10 <Ady> ?
23:10 <Ady> #translate french to english voulez vous coucher avec moi, ce soir.
23:10 <armabot> Ady: please lie down with me, this evening.
23:11 <Ady> #translate english to dutch spidey
23:11 <armabot> Ady: spidey
23:11 <spidey> #translate english to french spidey
23:11 <armabot> spidey: spidey
23:11 <spidey> #translate english to french todd
23:11 <armabot> spidey: todd
23:11 <Ady> #translate english to dutch spider
23:11 <spidey> =/
23:11 <armabot> Ady: spin
23:12 <Ady> lol
23:12 <spidey> o.O
23:12 <Ady> #g pi
23:12 <armabot> Ady: pi = 3.14159265
23:13 <Ady> #google search kostka andariegos
23:13 <armabot> Ady: No matches found. (Search took 0.32 seconds)
23:14 -!- ToddShitting is now known as GodTodd
23:15 <Ady> #ping
23:15 <armabot> pong
23:15 <Ady> #pong
23:15 <armabot> ping
23:15 <Ady> #tracert www.msn.com
23:15 <spidey> ???
23:16 <spidey> #list alias
23:16 <Ady> what
23:16 <armabot> spidey: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
23:16 <spidey> #onlineplayers
23:16 <armabot> spidey: This data is 111 seconds old; (R.K)siverwing, +ECT+ Air23, +ECT+ Ã÷ÃqÃ¥Wal, +ECT+ rcds, -=}ID< brakes, -=}ID< EagleEye, -=}ID< Squirg, .dBd PinkPanthr, .dBd|Nightmare, .dBd|PøVeR_ULT|, .Rev.C., 2.73 Kelvin, ={S}=VanD3TTa~*, >+DB+< BALLIN, >ga0x00ffBYby<, >S3D|~Mattman, Al3x, Alien, Andi, Berserker, billy, Boschti, BruteForce, calou[french], Commander, corback, cow, cubik, dabomb, Deth Zone, don't hurt me 1, (2 more messages)
23:16 <Ady> #wikipedia ady
23:16 <armabot> Ady: Search took 0.24 seconds: Endre Ady - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endre_Ady>; ADY - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADY>; Cindy Ady - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Ady>; Template:Lang- ady - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Lang-ady>; Adyghe language - (2 more messages)
23:16 <spidey> i feel like playing tron, so i'ma go play =D
23:16 <GodTodd> 111 seconds??? that's unacceptable.
23:16 <Ady> cindy ady o.O
23:16 <GodTodd> heh
23:17 <Ady> #eliza how are you
23:17 <armabot> Ady: I'm ok. Describe yourself.
23:17 <Ady> #eliza if you give me your msn
23:17 <armabot> Ady: Why do you say if i give you my msn?
23:18 <Ady> #eliza are you a bot?
23:18 <armabot> Ady: What do you think?
23:18 <Ady> #eliza no
23:18 <armabot> Ady: Why not?
23:18 <Ady> #eliza kiss
23:18 <armabot> Ady: Can you elaborate on that?
23:19 <Ady> sure
23:19 -!- nowimproved [n=nowimpro@bb-66-63-118-224.gwi.net] has joined #armagetron
23:19 <Ady> hi
23:20 <Ady> #serverinfo crazy
23:20 <armabot> Ady: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (13/14): .dBd|PøWeR_ULT|, Alien, Boschti, killahurtz, Legit.FreQ, Master, Maverik, SNAFU, spidey |mbc|, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, [noclan] JC, ~*SP*~*Sasha*~, ~|Sh0j0|~
23:20 <nowimproved> http://pastebin.com/820048, I get this message via the server but can not connect to my server through custom connection, but i see myself connecting as you can see...any ideas?
23:22 <nowimproved> Running the latest version of the server on openbsd
23:22 <DrJoeTr0n> too many squares tooday :/
23:23 -!- DrJoeTr0n [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-36-178-77.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has quit [">-;;,ccc3"]
23:25 -!- luke-jr_work [n=luke-jr@2002:4335:4375:0:20d:60ff:fe60:756a] has quit [No route to host]
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23:26  * GodTodd is more round than square. :/
23:26  * Ady hugs luke-jr
23:27 <Ady> #dict hug
23:27 <armabot> Ady: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Hug \Hug\, n. A close embrace or clasping with the arms, as in affection or in wrestling. --Fuller. [1913 Webster]; wn: hug n : a tight or amorous embrace; "come here and give me a big hug" [syn: {clinch}, {squeeze}] v 1: hug, usually with fondness; "Hug me, please"; "They embraced" [syn: {embrace}, {bosom}, {squeeze}] 2: fit closely or tightly; "She dress (6 more messages)
23:28 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:28 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 79.9°F (4:28 PM CST on November 08, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa. 
23:28 <nowimproved> oh..
23:29 <Ady> #weather 39001
23:29 -!- LuciShittingToo is now known as Lucifer_arma
23:29 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
23:29 <armabot> Ady: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "39001".
23:29 <ghableska> hello
23:29 <Ady> hi
23:29 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:29 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 75.2°F (3:54 PM CST on November 08, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa. 
23:29 <ghableska> agh
23:30 -!- Ady [n=ady@244.Red-83-51-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
23:30 <GodTodd> i lived in iowa for about a year
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> I drove through ioway
23:30 <ghableska> heh, didn't see much, did you?
23:30 <GodTodd> actually, i lived in nebraska east
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> I drove by 4 Tall Trees, IA
23:30 <ghableska> eww, NE
23:31 <Vanhayes> #g 75.2 F in C
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.vonage.com/device.php?type=F1000  <--- I'm interested in Vonage now
23:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: 75.2 degrees Fahrenheit = 24 degrees Celsius
23:31 <GodTodd> thought you had vonage
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> no, packet8
23:31 <GodTodd> ahhh
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> different voip company :)
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> vonage is like $5 more or something, but that phone is very nice
23:32 <luke-jr_work> Vonage sucks
23:32 <luke-jr_work> it's more or less POTS
23:32 -!- Ady [n=ady@244.Red-83-51-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #armagetron
23:32 <GodTodd> ghableska: only difference between ne and ia is casinos and more drunk drivers in ia ;)
23:32 <luke-jr_work> you only get an analog line
23:32 <Vanhayes> IA sounds more interesting then
23:33 <GodTodd> well...the casinos are like 10 minutes from nebraska
23:33 <GodTodd> heh
23:33 <ghableska> hehe
23:33 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: who won the elections in Texas?
23:34 <Ady> the one whos not parry
23:34 <Ady> or perry...
23:34 <GodTodd> no...perry won
23:34 <Ady> oh?
23:34 <Ady> #google perry won
23:34 <armabot> Ady: Search took 0.11 seconds: Perry Wins Gold Medal in 100m Hurdles :: Perry won the gold medal ...: <http://www.cstv.com/sports/c-track/stories/081105aag.html>; University of Idaho Athletics - Basketball: <http://www.uiathletics.com/pages/sport.asp?Action=DrawNewsArticle&SportID=2&NewsID=3537&PageID=13>; Magnifisyncopathological: Rick Perry Won 't Save Texas Public Education: (3 more messages)
23:34 <GodTodd> #google "rick perry wins"
23:34 <armabot> GodTodd: Search took 0.23 seconds: Rick Perry vs The World - Texas Politics and the 2006 ...: <http://www.perryvsworld.com/>; Rick Perry vs The World - September 2005 Archives: <http://www.perryvsworld.com/archive/1/2005-09>; Burnt Orange Report: :: Perry Goes Negative on Bell: <http://www.burntorangereport.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2138>; Perry Alliance Network Perry Wins the 2006 Texas Gubernatorial Debate: (2 more messages)
23:36 <Ady> #serverinfo nixda.net
23:36 <nowimproved> http://pastebin.com/820048, I get this message via the server but can not connect to my server through custom connection, but i see myself connecting as you can see...any ideas?
23:36 <armabot> Ady: armagetron.nixda.net (Original): Players (8/12): Andi, HermanTheGerman, Margo, Princess Leila, RuBeN El 10, tina, tomik, van Nelle
23:36 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, you know WiFi phones don't really work well yet, right?
23:36 <Ady> #serverinfo nixda.net sumo
23:36 <armabot> Ady: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “nixda.net sumo” at the moment, sorry.
23:36 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, and you can just buy a phone and use it w/ any service
23:36 <Ady> nixda sumo is down?
23:36 <luke-jr_work> nowimproved, firewall?
23:38 <nowimproved> luke-jr_, hmm, hold on
23:40 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
23:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
23:42 <Ady> #serverinfo sumo
23:43 <armabot> Ady: Wild West - Sumo: Players (3/10): help im a bug, madmax, °¯Plato
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, see, we wanted Bell to win
23:43 <luke-jr_work> Ady, I host Armagetron servers if you're interested ;)
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> that's why we're complaining that 61% of voters voted against perry, but perry won
23:43 <Ady> luke, why are you asking me that?
23:44 <luke-jr_work> you were asking about bw use earlier
23:44 <Ady> *saying
23:44 <Ady> your servers dont have a good connection:P
23:44 <luke-jr_work> yes they do
23:44 <Ady> i lag on them
23:44 <luke-jr_work> where do you live?
23:44 <Ady> in hell
23:44 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:44 <Ady> spain
23:45 <luke-jr_work> well, then you're crossing continents to play on the US
23:45 <luke-jr_work> I think Spain is near Germany tho
23:45 <Ady> laggy
23:45 <luke-jr_work> so you should get a good ping there
23:45 <luke-jr_work> crossing continents is always more laggy than not
23:45 <Ady> #google distance germany spain km
23:45 <armabot> Ady: Search took 0.25 seconds: welcome visitor music log in register collabs guest: <http://www.96decibels.com/music.asp?fs=No>; Camel Trophy vehicles: <http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/IndexCamel.htm>; Land Rover FAQ - Miscellaneous - Camel Tropy: <http://www.kenner.ca/LR_FAQ/FAQ.6.CamelTrophy.html>; Ball of Dirt / Brandon Cox / 2006 (updated Wednesday Oct. 17, 2006): (2 more messages)
23:45 <Ady> this google thing is a bit useless
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> why do you say that?  we've found it to be very useful
23:46 <Ady> try to make it say the distance between spain and germany
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> that makes it useless?
23:47 <Ady> ...
23:48 <Ady> lucifer , what nicks do you use when u play
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> why?
23:48 <madmax|pt> Lackadaisical: did you actually record those "things"? the stopping cycles?
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> if I wanted people to know me when I was using an alias, I wouldn't use an alias...
23:49 <Ady> yes he did
23:49 <Ady> madmax look on the forums somewhere i saw it
23:49 <Ady> #lastseen lucifer
23:49 <armabot> Ady: timed out
23:50 <Ady> thats a lot of time
23:50 <Ady> :P
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> not really, ask him how often he deletes the records
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> his database grows very quickly, so he only keeps like a week or so in there
23:50 <Ady> oh
23:50 <Ady> a weeks is much too, this summer i was 16/24 h playing tron
23:51 <Ady> #lastseen lod|ady
23:51 <armabot> Ady: LoD|Ady~PKC has last been seen on 2020 team challenge 1 days 3 hours 10 minutes ago.
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_work: don't forget to account for Standard European Ping Snot
23:51 <Ady> now im getting less addicted
23:51 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, ?
23:51 <luke-jr_work> Ady, if it's laggy, why do you play on it? ;p
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. the europeans around here are the biggest whiners about bad pings, so bad that even LAN pings don't satisfy them
23:52 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, lol?
23:52 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: agreed :)
23:53 <Ady> luke did i play on ur server?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> Ady, I host 2020's
23:53 <Ady> i was spectating
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> and they get really snotty when they poll 200ms pings on CTWF
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> "Kick the laggy player!"
23:54 <Ady> haha
23:54 <Vanhayes> heh, I remember when I used to do that
23:54  * Lucifer_arma notes that 200ms is near average ping for american players on european servers
23:54 <Vanhayes> 350 + used to get a kick when i started playing
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> it used to matter, because really bad pings lagged the server
23:55 <Ady> at start i played while downloading..
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> but those days are long gone, now it's just snottiness
23:55  * ghableska recalls | 40 |
23:55 <Vanhayes> ha
23:55 <Vanhayes> 500+ was a good day for him
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> man, n54 used to play american speed servers with 450ms and kick all of our asses
23:55 <Vanhayes> spidey: playing tron??
23:56 <Ady> #serverinfo crazy
23:56 <armabot> Ady: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (11/14): BinDistrib, Boschti, Ogre Battle, SNAFU, spidey |mbc|, System, Zop, [mho]ese, |AST| FoFo, ~*SP*~ ØLÊfÀ	={, °°oixel
23:56 <ghableska> what happened to n54?
23:56 <Ady> seems so
23:56 <Vanhayes> #seen N54
23:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: N54 was last seen in #armagetron 21 weeks, 2 days, 20 hours, 3 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> just disappeared for awhile
23:56 <Vanhayes> man he is still beating me with these stats
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> he does that, he'll probably show up sometime
23:56 <Vanhayes> #ircstats
23:57 <armabot> http://www.electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> 9 	philippeqc	7955		"hail z-man, may those who diss your name die of anal cancer"
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> It seems that LuciEatsPeople's shift-key is hanging: 6.3% of the time he/she wrote UPPERCASE.
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> For example, like this:
23:58 <Lucifer_arma>      <LuciEatsPeople> I WANT TO WIN WITH CAPITAL LETTERS
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> awesome :)
23:59 <ghableska> short lines, yay
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> guru3 is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 12 people!
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> guru3's faithful follower, Lucifer_arma, kicked about 1 people.
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> heh, the one person I kicked ws guru3 :)
23:59 <Ady> lol
23:59 <GodTodd> was gonna say...that's ironic since he's the one you kicked
23:59 <GodTodd> heh
23:59 <ghableska> wasn't fcukfcuk wrtlprnft?

Log from 2006-11-09:
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00:00 <Lucifer_arma> fcukfcuk has quite a potty mouth. 60.7% words were foul language.   <--- wrtlprnft (prick) wins finally
00:00 <guru3> Oo
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, wrtlprnft (prick) is fcukfcuk
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> hi guru3 (prick) 
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> I love this tab completion thing.  I want it in arma now :)
00:00 <ghableska> uk has joined #Armagetron.
00:00 <ghableska> :     Age has signed off IRC ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)").
00:00 <ghableska> fcukfcuk:     YOU ALL SUCK DICK
00:00 <ghableska> fcukfcuk:     er.
00:00 <guru3> D:
00:00 <ghableska> heh
00:01 <ghableska> I love this chat history
00:01 -!- Niii [n=Niii@lnr56-1-82-246-48-71.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Quitte"]
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> so, the Democrats win in the midterm elections and the President has to fire Rumsfeld.  It almost looks like the US government is going in a good direction.
00:04 <Ady> *Datos descargados: 2.13 GB Tiempo de ejecución: 8:24 Horas*
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> I hope this is a sign the Democrats have managed to get their shit together after Kerry gutted the party
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> es no bueno por caca, amigo
00:04 <Ady> #translate spanish to english es no bueno por caca, amigo 
00:04 <armabot> Ady: it is nongood by poop, friend
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> my mexican buddy at the junkyard translated it as "is no good for shit, dickhead"
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> how he figued amigo was spanish for dickhead is quite beyond me to work out
00:05 <ghableska> haha
00:06 <ghableska> maybe a missing accent? ;)
00:06 <Ady> #g 8:24 h in seconds
00:06 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:06 <Ady> #g 8,3 hours in seconds
00:06 <armabot> Ady: 8,3 hours = 29,880 seconds
00:06 <Ady> #g 2.13 gb in kb
00:06 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:07 <Ady> #g 2.13 Gb in Kb
00:07 <armabot> Ady: 2.13 gigabits = 2,233,466.88 kilobits
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2.13 GB in KB
00:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.13 gigabytes = 2,233,466.88 kilobytes
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2.13 GB in B
00:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:07 <Ady> #g 2.233.466/30000
00:07 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2.13 GB in bytes
00:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.13 gigabytes = 2.28707009 * 10^(9) bytes
00:07 <Ady> #g 2233466/30000
00:07 <armabot> Ady: 2,233,466 / 30,000 = 74.4488667
00:07 <Ady> s74 kb/s average download rate
00:07 -!- nowimproved [n=nowimpro@bb-66-63-118-224.gwi.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> #g pi * lucifer's ass radius
00:08 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:08 <Ady> lol
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, I guess google doesn't know everything after all
00:08 <Ady> #g 1gb in nanobits
00:08 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:08 <Ady> #g 1gb in nanobit
00:08 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:08 <Ady> whats ur ass radius?
00:10 <Ady> im 6.06 feet height
00:12 <Ady> are you working on some other project than armagetron
00:16 <luke-jr_work> /kick Ady 
00:17 <Ady> ...
00:17  * Ady has been kicked by luke-jr_work.
00:20 <Ady> http://youtube.com/watch?v=gb1Z9VU_Yco
00:22 <luke-jr_work> sucks
00:22 <Ady> yeh
00:23 <Ady> http://www.dalealplay.com/informaciondecontenido.php?con=650
00:23 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:24 <Ady> offf and check this http://www.dalealplay.com/informaciondecontenido.php?con=13349
00:27 <madmax|pt> #lastseen webgamer
00:28 <armabot> madmax|pt: timed out
00:28 <Vanhayes> #lastseen V:
00:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: V:a:n:h:a:y:e:s seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
00:29 <ghableska> um
00:29 <madmax|pt> Van gone wild
00:30 <Ady> #night
00:30 <armabot> Good night Ady!
00:31 -!- Ady [n=ady@244.Red-83-51-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
00:31 <Vanhayes> V:a:n:h:a:y:e:s : Commited suicide
00:32 <Vanhayes> Love confusing the newer people with that
00:33 <madmax|pt> lol
00:34 <madmax|pt> can you check the last time a certain player was on a specific server?
00:35 <Vanhayes> hmm, dont think so
00:35 <Vanhayes> not unless that was the last server they were on
00:36 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
00:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12 players) || Super Duck Fortress! (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || armagetron.nixda.net (Original) (5 players) || Gamma Deathmatch Server (4 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (4 players) || Norm's Place (3 players) || Shrunkland in (1 more message)
00:36 <Vanhayes> argh no regular fort
00:40 -!- SuPeRTaRD [i=blah@adsl-71-145-140-186.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:41 <madmax|pt> Super Duck?
00:42 <madmax|pt> #serverdetails super duck
00:42 <armabot> madmax|pt: Super Duck Fortress!: Players (8/16): -=}ÎЪ °ÃÏÐîcT°, eggcozy, Matthew, Perdio, Player 1, sly foxx, wipeout, ~*SP*~joda.bot
00:43 <Vanhayes> my mistake
00:44 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo super
00:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Super Duck Fortress!: Players (8/16): -=}ÎÏ«°ÂÐÏïbT°, <<freakful1>>, eggcozy, Matthew, Perdio, Player 1, Sticky, ~*SP*~joda.bot
00:51 <madmax|pt> #lastseen [Xpert]DarkStar 
00:51 <armabot> madmax|pt: timed out
00:57 <Vanhayes> #lastseen [
00:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Missing "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
00:57 <Vanhayes> #lastseen" ["
00:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: No closing quotation
00:57 <Vanhayes> armabot: You suck
00:57 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)]
00:57 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:58 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 68.0°F (4:54 PM CST on November 08, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa. 
00:58 <luke-jr_work> #lastseen "["
00:58 <armabot> luke-jr_work: calou[french] has last been seen on Strawberry Fields 1 minutes ago.
00:58  * luke-jr_work can handle it =D
00:58 <Vanhayes> shh
01:00 <Vanhayes> #uberinsult
01:00 <armabot> You are luke-jr
01:00 <ghableska> lmao
01:02 <madmax|pt> haha
01:03 <Vanhayes> ya Ive been saving that one for a while, I was hoping somone(really hoping luke-jr) would use it out of curiosity
01:03 <ghableska> #insult
01:03 <armabot> You are nothing but a dread-bolted mound of tofu-nibbling snake.
01:06 <Vanhayes> #insult
01:06 <armabot> You are nothing but an infected mass of fobbing Sun.
01:06 <Vanhayes> #insult spidey 
01:06 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a crook-pated bucket of gorbellied waste. 
01:06 <guru3> good night all
01:06 <Vanhayes> night
01:06 <ghableska> 'night
01:06 <ghableska> "fobbing Sun?"
01:06 <Vanhayes> hmm fobbing sun
01:06 <Vanhayes> ha
01:06 <Vanhayes> knew that looked wrong
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: does vanhayes sleep with women?
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: do vanhayes sleep with women?
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: doooooooooo
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: scooby dooby dooooooooooo!!!!!!!
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do you say anything besides no?
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do NO
01:11 <armabot> no
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: do not say yes
01:12 <ghableska> Armabot: do you not say anything besides no?
01:12 <armabot> no
01:12 <armabot> no
01:12 <ghableska> lol
01:12 <Vanhayes> #list
01:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
01:12 <Vanhayes> #list web
01:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote
01:13 <Vanhayes> #google slowcoaster 
01:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.19 seconds: House of Rock - Slowcoaster: <http://www.houseofrock.ca/slowcoaster.php>; House of Rock - News: <http://www.houseofrock.ca/>; New Music Canada Artist: SLOWCOASTER: <http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=11024>; Slowcoaster Home: <http://www.maplemusic.com/artists/slw/default.asp>; www.myspace.com/ slowcoaster: (2 more messages)
01:14 <Vanhayes> heh HOR
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2006/11/08/ap3156393.html
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> this is a pretty damn close election
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> what it means is that neither party has majority support, of course
01:22 <madmax|pt> does anyone know Noddy?
01:22 <madmax|pt> lol...
01:23 <Vanhayes> who is noddy?
01:23 <madmax|pt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noddy
01:23 <Vanhayes> wow, random question madmax|pt 
01:24 <Vanhayes> what brought that up?
01:24 <Commn> madmax|pt : never heard of noddy 
01:24 <madmax|pt> not really
01:24 <madmax|pt> does anyone: a) know noddy, b) think he is a taxi driver
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> who the hell is noddy?
01:24 <madmax|pt> someone was arguing with me that he isn't a taxi driver
01:24 <ghableska> um
01:25 <Vanhayes> Noddy drives a red and yellow car (and once flew a plane) in Toytown. Noddy has many friends and has a golden bell end on his hat.
01:25 <madmax|pt> lol
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> ok, why the fuck should I care who the hell noddy is?
01:25 <madmax|pt> Noddy is a stupid cartoon
01:25 <Vanhayes> hmm do you know who barney is?
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, as usual the conservative bloggers are predicting doom and gloom for the democrats when the democrats have won a marginal victory
01:26 <madmax|pt> simpsons?
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> barney is that stupid purple dinosaur that gives kids violent tendencies and is therefore not watched in my house
01:26 <Vanhayes> nah madmax|pt is right
01:27  * Vanhayes just saw an episode of the simpsons
01:27 <Vanhayes> the dinosaur never did it for me
01:27 <Vanhayes> I just kept wondering who was behind the suit
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> I just kept wanting to drop a tactical nuclear warhead on the cast and crew
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> couldn't figure out why, either
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> then one day my kid watches barney, and immediately after it was over he ran over to my wife and started pummeling her
01:28 <madmax|pt> holy crap, just saw some pics of barney the dino 
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> pummeling!
01:28 <madmax|pt> looks bad
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> my kid can sit and watch R-rated horror flicks and doesn't act like that!
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> but give him barney and he's a freaking mass murderer
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> soooo, there's no barney in my house
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> actually, they went to see a live barney show and they were fine, it's only the tv show that seems to do this to them
01:30 <Vanhayes> those creppy kids singing "I Love you, you Love me" always gave me the impression barney was trying to start a cult
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, all those creepy kids in my high school that sang that song turned out to be gay later on
01:31 <Vanhayes> wow, no one has ever sung that song in my school
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> barney was something of a new sensation when I was in high school, now he's just another kid's show (insanely popular, but no longer a sensation)
01:35 <madmax|pt> well, he's purple
01:36 <Vanhayes>  I always Found Barney gumble more entertaining than barney the dinosaur
01:36 <ghableska> "For instance, one particular episode made use of the phrase, "A stranger is a friend you have not met yet", which some parents may view as sending a dangerous message to their children."
01:36 <ghableska> Hahahah.
01:36 <Vanhayes> ha, nice
01:36 <Vanhayes> and very scary
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> I don't like teaching my kids not to talk to strangers
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> when my daughter came home and told me there were all these grownups on the way home from school that wanted to kidnap her or hurt her, I started rethinking the message we were sending them
01:39 <ghableska> "An additional criticism has been made that the characters often use magic to solve real problems, something that is very controversial among Christian fundamentalists who regard "magic" as equivalent to witchcraft"
01:40 <Vanhayes> hmm did I hear that the priest from Jesus camp turned out to be a drug smoking homosexual who purchased prostitutes?
01:41 <Vanhayes> that Christian thing just jogged my memory btw, not just a random outburst
01:42 <ghableska> hmm
01:42 <ghableska> http://www.jihad.net/
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I just clicked a wiki ad
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> yes, you did, Vanhayes (prick) 
01:43 <Vanhayes> your a prick
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:43  * Lucifer_arma nods
01:43 <Vanhayes> heh, had to do it
01:43 <Vanhayes> Ya I think I heard that on the daily show
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, I can't do tab completion on my own name.  Lucifer_arma (prick) 
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> er, yes I can, apparently
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> there, so we're all equal now.  ANyone I address directly is a prick.  :)
01:44 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_armaass 
01:44 -!- spidey is now known as Spidey
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, it was some guy in Colorado who was pushing for a ban on gay marriage
01:44 <Vanhayes> hmm, that didnt work right
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> then it turns out that he bought meth from a gay male masseuse, and the masseuse said he had sex with the guy monthly
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01:45 <Vanhayes> ya, you dont deserve capitalization spidey 
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> Co-location customers want their data center to have bulletproof infrastructure, k
01:45 <spidey> Vanhayes, you don't deserve life
01:45 <spidey> but we give it to you anyways
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> Located in Southeast Austin, our new $3 Million data center
01:45 <Vanhayes> you give Me life?
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> it better be bulletproof if it's in Southest AUstin
01:46 <Vanhayes> southeast austin a ruogh neighbor hood?
01:46 <Vanhayes> rough*
01:46 <spidey> Vanhayes, we allow you to keep it
01:47 <Vanhayes> I consider that a threat
01:47 <Vanhayes> an empty threat ya, but still...
01:48 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: how much have you made off of those wiki ads so for?
01:48 <spidey> whatchya gonna do about it?? get a lawyer and sue me like this other guy's sueing server admins and people from a irc server?
01:48 <Vanhayes> yes?
01:48 <spidey> good
01:48 <spidey> i'm not coming to canada so  you better fly down here
01:49 <spidey> then sue me for $5
01:49 <spidey> cause that's all i got
01:49 <spidey> =p
01:49 <Vanhayes> there should be a slvery law, if you owe someone money but cant pay you become their slave for a period of time
01:49 <Vanhayes> slavery*
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> canadians are soooo advanced
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> um, about $15 now
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> and the ad I clicked on was an ad I was actually interested in
01:52 <ghableska> how much are you hoping to get?
01:52 <Vanhayes> I clicked a few that looked interesting
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> ~$100/month is the target
01:52 <Vanhayes> alot of random junk on there tho
01:52 <ghableska> oh
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> that only puts me in a spot where I can put up my own money up front to build the wiki server bigger and better
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> if there's a predictable and constant $250/month or more we can pay for manged server hosting
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> which gives us a game server, too.
01:53 <Vanhayes> so it would be a new true bugfarm?
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> I looked at the paypal payments, and guru3 wasn't lying, there isn't anything predictable there.  Someone gave a really nice donation, but it amounts to a spike.
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: that's about right, provided it wasn't as bad as luke's managed servers :)
01:53 <Vanhayes> ha
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> but more than that, it would give us a place to move the main website, and considering how the wiki's doing, it's almost a certainty that if we could put
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> the main site on a server that can handle the traffic and put ads on it that we'd make enough to become independent of sourceforge
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01:54 <Lucifer_arma> and possibly have some money to put into the community in some way or other
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> I say almost a certainty, but I'd really need more data on the main website to give something worth someone shelling out money over
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> and since it's on sourceforge's server, that data does not exist :/
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> TOS on sourceforge prevent us from putting ads there, too.  The only way to get the data would be to put our own php scripts in there to collect it, and that's a problem of its own.
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> better to use the wiki to bootstrap us into a good web server and then move in slowly with the other stuff
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> see, if I can put down money to incrementally improve the wiki server, it can eventually become something that can easily be colocated
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> and coloc services are much cheaper.  The target we've got right now would be sufficient for colocating the wiki, which means we own the server, too
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm done rambling.  I hope I've been informative and useful.  :)
01:57 <ghableska> hi mom
01:58 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: informative, yes
01:58 <Vanhayes> heh you have been informative ya
01:58 <Vanhayes> damnit ghab
01:58 <Your_mom_arma> hi
01:58 <Vanhayes> your too fast for me
01:58 <Vanhayes> hey mom
01:58 <ghableska> what?
01:59 <Vanhayes> you thought of the same thing, but typed it faster
01:59 <ghableska> oh. :P
02:00 <Vanhayes> hmm, anyone recommend some music? Need to add some new music
02:01 <ghableska> I think our tates differ :P
02:01 <ghableska> what kind of music?
02:01 <Vanhayes> I like any thing
02:01 <Vanhayes> welll anything that sounds good :)
02:02 <Your_mom_arma> hirax
02:12 <Vanhayes> damn that took a while to download, ares didnt have much
02:15 <Vanhayes> not bad tho, any other recomendations?
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02:16 <ghableska> http://capsteps.com/ <-- some of those are pretty funny
02:16 <ghableska> it's mostly american politics though...
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02:24 <Lucifer_arma> Joe Jackson
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> I highly recommend Joe Jackson
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> especially if you have a) listened to me play bass and b) liked it.  :)
02:25 <ghableska> heh, I've never been able to get that to work 
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, check him out anyway.  His record Look Sharp! is one of my favorites, at least.
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> I don't make a mix CD without a couple of songs from that album, and there aren't that many that have that kind of standing for me
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I don't make any mix CDs these days since the CD player in my car is broken
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> his later records are good, and fun to listen to, but different enough from Look Sharp! that I haven't really gotten into them, although you may find you like them a lot
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02:35 <Van-hayes> ugh
02:36 <ghableska> heh
02:36 <Van-hayes> Lucifer_arma: I knew that name sounded familiar
02:36 <Van-hayes> Ive heard a few songs, liked them too
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02:57 <Van-hayes> #time
02:57 <armabot> Van-hayes: 02:56 AM, November 09, 2006
03:01 <Van-hayes> #night
03:01 <armabot> Good night Van-hayes!
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03:27 <Lucifer_arma> 5 minutes is a long time when you're hungry
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=415317&in_page_id=1774
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04:15 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:15 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 59.0°F (8:54 PM CST on November 08, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.48 in 998 hPa. 
04:20 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr_ ping
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04:47 <Your_mom_arma> wth... tron school?
04:51 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, it's for people like luke-jr_ 
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04:57 <Your_mom_arma> hey
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> so, if The Republic requires LIteracy, and Literacy requires Code of Laws, then I don't need to connect the Republic to Code of Laws in a flowchart, right?
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> *Republic also requires Code of Laws
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05:07 <DrJoeTr0n> heya
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> hi
05:18 <luke-jr_> ...
05:19 <luke-jr_> not unless Republic requires Code of Laws in itself
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> it explicitly requires code of laws and literacy
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> but literacy also requires code of laws, so to satisfy the rpublic, you have to get code of laws, then literacy
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> Kivio is kind of a pain, I think I'm gonna start over with Dia and see how that goes
05:21 <Your_mom_arma> kivio?
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, KDE's flowcharting tool
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> see, to make the sweeping civ changes I keep talking about, I need a visual representation of the tech tree
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's not really a tree, more like a bowl of spaghetti :(
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, Kivio is modeled after Visio, iirc.
05:31 <Your_mom_arma> i could see that chart being almost unreadable
05:33 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: why visual?
05:33 <Your_mom_arma> anyone want to pick up a game of civ?
05:33 <luke-jr_> last night's maybe
05:34 <luke-jr_> what changes ARE you talking about Luci?
05:41 <Your_mom_arma> what about the other days game?
05:42 <luke-jr_> nobody else wanted to continue it?
05:43 <Your_mom_arma> ping spidey
05:43 <spidey> ?
05:45 <Your_mom_arma> want to play the game in lukes server from the other day?
05:54 <DrJoeTr0n> track mania :D
05:57 <Your_mom_arma> i guess we could play that instead
05:58 <DrJoeTr0n> same place?
05:58 <Your_mom_arma> i guess
05:58 <DrJoeTr0n> shit 
05:58 <spidey> i can
05:58 <spidey> only play a hour or so
05:58 <spidey> i'm really tired
05:58 <spidey> =/
05:58 <DrJoeTr0n> actualy give me like 15 minutes
05:59 <Your_mom_arma> well i'll be in the server, cya there
05:59 <DrJoeTr0n> actually, fuck it, i got shit to study for i just realized
05:59 <Your_mom_arma> fair enough
05:59 <DrJoeTr0n> probably tommarow though
06:00 <spidey> mom still wanna play?
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> if you wait a bit I can probably play some
06:09 <spidey> #15*30
06:09 <spidey> #g 15*30
06:09 <armabot> spidey: 15 * 30 = 450
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> y'all still trying to get a freeciv game going?
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> Dia it is, Kivio is The Suck
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07:15 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here use skype in place of a landline?
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> Your_mom_arma did you leave>
07:21 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> i didnt get the right skin :/
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> so i kept google caching
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> but i got the grenade sticker :D
07:24 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
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07:32 <Lucifer_arma> wiki's going to be down again tomorrow, watch
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> it's windier than hell outside
07:34 <wrtlprnft> ah, you'd know about hell, true
07:37 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
07:37 <Your_mom_arma> #time
07:37 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: 07:36 AM, November 09, 2006
08:04 <DrJoeTr0n> awww
08:04 <DrJoeTr0n> i didnt know mac halll pseudo ended :/
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12:29 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/images/e/e0/Technologies.png
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13:03 <swingle> hi
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13:03 <swingle> is anybody out there?
13:05 <swingle> i have a problem compiling armagetronad in windows
13:05 <swingle> is this the right place to ask?
13:06 <Lucifer_arma> it is, but nobody's here right now
13:07 <swingle> Lucifer_arma you are a developer?
13:07 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but I don't use windows :)
13:07 <swingle> btw im siro you might remember me from wild fortress
13:07 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing I can do if it's a windows specific problem is refer you to the wiki or the forums
13:08 <swingle> ok then ill ask you another question i have
13:08 <swingle> i thought about implementing some kind of compression layer
13:08 <swingle> at the socket level
13:08 <swingle> arma doesnt use any compression now does it?
13:09 <Lucifer_arma> no it doesn't
13:09 <Lucifer_arma> we've talked about it, though.  Mostly decided it wouldn't be worth it. :)
13:09 <swingle> why not? itd be quite easy to implement
13:09 <Lucifer_arma> what problem are you trying to solve with a compression layer?
13:09 <swingle> im on a 56k dialup
13:10 <swingle> if packets where half size we could send twice as many using the same bandwidth
13:10 <swingle> so we could afford to loase more packets without blackout and disconnections
13:11 <Lucifer_arma> um, yeah, but then we have to compress/decompress the packets.  You either spend bandwidth or cpu time
13:11 <swingle> i though of using a lempel-ziv like algorithm
13:11 <swingle> it could be quite fast
13:11 <Lucifer_arma> what was determined when the subject came up last time was that there were a lot of improvements and optimizations that can be made to the network layer without using compression
13:12 <Lucifer_arma> and that after those improvements were made, it would *then* be worthwhile to look at compression again
13:12 <Lucifer_arma> thing is, the protocol itself is still considered experimental, last I checked, so it has a lot of stuff that's there primarily for testing purposes
13:12 <Lucifer_arma> now, mind you, I don't know jack about socket programming, I use other libraries to deal with that myself, so z-man's the one you need to talk to about it
13:13 <Lucifer_arma> best way to get a hold of him is through the forums.  He comes in here sometimes, and he even talks sometimes when he's here, but the forums are the most reliable place to talk to him
13:13 <swingle> my question is, if i write a thin compression layer that doesnt consume much cpu time would it be worth a look?
13:14 <Lucifer_arma> anything someone does trying to improve the game is worth a look.  :)  If you're right and the rest of us are wrong, it'll even get into the game.  ;)
13:14 <swingle> heh
13:15 <swingle> ok ill give it a try then
13:15 <Lucifer_arma> but me, personally, if you're pretty good with socket programming, I'd suggest you look around and see what kind of other optimizations you could do
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13:15 <Lucifer_arma> my main issue is that the game server I run is on a slow-ass machine, and I'd just as soon not have it decompress packets from 12 players hundreds of times a second
13:15 <Lucifer_arma> of course, that also makes it a good test bed for your patch :)
13:16 <swingle> i didnt plan on compressing traffic from players to server
13:16 <swingle> only the other way
13:16 <Lucifer_arma> just from server to players?
13:16 <swingle> yep
13:16 <swingle> that could be achieving just changing the way things are coded
13:16 <swingle> (achieved) :)
13:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you really want to do it, write it up and we'll give a look at it :)
13:17 <swingle> the first thing i need to do it is to make visual studio understand the project files
13:17 <swingle> it says one of them is corrupt
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> heh, good luck.  I don't think anyone's maintaining those anymore, we've gone to something else
13:18 <swingle> what are you using now?
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> Code::Blocks, I think, is what we're using now on Windows
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> better check the wiki
13:18 <swingle> k
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Development_Docs
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13:22 <swingle> how can i decompress 7z files?
13:24 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #google decompress 7z
13:25 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Search took 0.39 seconds: 7-Zip: <http://www.7-zip.org/>; Download CompreXX - compress, decompress ,extract,archive, 7Z ,7ZIP ...: <http://www.gold-software.com/CompreXX-file5778.html>; WinRAR archiver, a powerful tool to process RAR and ZIP files: <http://www.rarlab.com/rarnew.htm>; Choice of a GNU Generation - Free Software Foundation (FSF): <http://www.gnu.org/software/for-windows.html>; (2 more messages)
13:25 <guru3> fo shizzle, google's the way
13:25 <swingle> lol
14:57 <spidey> o.O
15:11 <spidey> lol
15:11 <spidey> this thing sucks
15:11 <spidey> o.O
15:13 <spidey> http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2148/untitledli8.jpg
15:13 <spidey> that's like
15:13 <spidey> the faster pc ever!!
15:14 <swingle> whats that?
15:14 <swingle> oh 300 mhz 
15:14 <spidey> 300mhz, 64mb ram and running winxp
15:14 <spidey> xD
15:14 <swingle> ive got a 25MHz with 16MB ram up and running :p
15:14 <spidey> O.o
15:15 <spidey> slowest i got is 122mhz
15:15 <spidey> need more parts for it though
15:15 <spidey> just a mobo and case....few other parts , been things like power supply cord ide cables and stuff =/
15:15 <swingle> well, slowest i got is a CPC6128 but i think it doesnt work any more
15:15 <spidey> s/been/need
15:16 <spidey> o.O
15:16 <spidey> never heard of those =p
15:16 <guru3> slowest i have running is 135 or so
15:16 <swingle> how old are you?
15:16 <spidey> 16
15:16 <luke-jr_> swingle: no matter how fast the CPU is, compression still adds latency
15:16 <swingle> heh then its normal you havent heard of them
15:16 <luke-jr_> that's part of why people still use ulaw (uncompressed) for VoIP when possible
15:17 <spidey> that's gonna be a linux server when i get a blank CD or a floppy, so i can do a network install >:|
15:17 <luke-jr_> latency = ping
15:17 <spidey> no really?
15:17 <spidey> =p
15:17 <swingle> luke-jr_ -> thats not necessarily tru
15:17 <swingle> "data generation -> compression -> transmission"  adds latency
15:17 <swingle> "data generation with clever coding -> transmission" doesnt
15:19 <swingle> for arma differential coding could make a big difference without adding latency
15:26 <spidey> hmm
15:26 <spidey> i don't see how people say windows is a resource hog
15:26 <spidey> this 300mhz box is running it at a max 3% cpu usage while i'm multitasking
15:26 <spidey> so booyah
15:26 <spidey> =p
15:27 <swingle> you'd run out of disk if you let it run long enough
15:27 <swingle> maybe out of memory too
15:28 <swingle> and it will run slower each time you reboot
15:28 <Commn> depends on windows version
15:28 <Commn> winxp wouldnt run on a 300mhz anyhow
15:28 <spidey> nah
15:28 <swingle> yep, but its true for XP
15:28 <spidey> Commn, it does so
15:28 <spidey> saw the screenshot?
15:28 <spidey> =p
15:29 <Commn> not well ;p
15:29 <spidey> it is so far
15:29 <spidey> =p
15:29 <spidey> 24 hour uptime
15:29 <spidey> o.O
15:29 <Commn> i ran it on my p233 once ;)
15:29 <swingle> spidey: just give it time
15:29 <spidey> only a 4gig hddd
15:29 <swingle> install something and then remove it
15:29 <swingle> you gotta play a bit with the registry to screw it up
15:29 <Commn> windows really only slows down for people that use IE and outlook ;p
15:29 <spidey> but the install bring that to 3.38gigs free
15:30 <Commn> i swear winxp install was 1gig
15:30 <spidey> ie and outlook suck
15:30 <spidey> Commn, it's 1.8 gigs
15:30 <spidey> i'm using a custom install
15:30 <spidey> =p
15:30 <Commn> ah
15:30 <luke-jr_> swingle:  "data generation with clever coding" != compression
15:31 <swingle> luke-jr_: you are right i explained myself wrong, its not what you call compression but it saves bandwidth too
15:31 <spidey> swingle, if you have the disk space windows won't run out of ram
15:31 <spidey> it uses pagefile like linux uses swap
15:31 <spidey> though i have manage to use 2.5gigs total memory on this box
15:31 <spidey> =/
15:32 <luke-jr_> swingle: I certainly wouldn't mind a new protocol ;)
15:32 <swingle> spidey: the swapspace in windows is not placed on a different partition by default so it gets fragmented -> its awfully slow
15:32 <spidey> that's why you make one
15:32 <spidey> anyone with common sense knows that =p
15:32 <swingle> what filesystem are you using for your swap space?
15:32 <spidey> ntfs
15:32 <luke-jr_> swingle: Linux swap files don't need their own partition either
15:32 <swingle> that makes it awfully slow too ;)
15:33 <spidey> yea. but it's only a temprary install, till i geta blank cd
15:33 <spidey> so i don't care =p
15:33 <spidey> or a floppy disk...
15:33 <swingle> yep thats the key point, winxp works fine for temporary installs
15:33 <spidey> no
15:33 <spidey> not at all
15:33 <Commn> microsoft lost me when they decided it was up to them to tell me how many times i can configure my pc hardware
15:34 <swingle> billy gates said everyone should do a complete format every 6 months
15:34 <swingle> if you do that winxp can be as good as anything else
15:34 <Commn> swingle : i've been running windows for a long time without formats
15:34 <spidey> it can without that
15:34 <spidey> Running on Windows: 5.1 (Build 2600)  update:  Total Memory: 503 Meg / Available memory: 252 Meg Extended Info Microsoft Windows XP Has Been Installed For  106 days, 18 Hours, 4 Minutes And 59 Seconds CPU Type - Uniprocessor Free 
15:34 <luke-jr_> screw Windoze
15:34 <Commn> just people who dont know how to fix windows, have problems with it
15:34 <luke-jr_> there is no good reason *to* use it
15:34 <spidey> luke-jr_, there's no good reason to use linux
15:35 <luke-jr_> spidey: sure there is, it works properly
15:35 <spidey> it does?
15:35 <swingle> Commn: its hard for me to believe that
15:35 <spidey> yet it's easier to break than windows
15:35 <luke-jr_> as does BSD
15:35 <luke-jr_> spidey: nonsense
15:35 <spidey> atleast windows has automatedd recovery
15:35 <luke-jr_> ROFL
15:35 <spidey> =p
15:36 <swingle> spidey: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sdba
15:36 <swingle> thats all you need to make an automatedd recovery tool for linux
15:36 <spidey> i learned not to try nix  commands from anyone =p
15:36 <spidey> especially luke
15:36 <spidey> :|
15:37 <swingle> Commn: windows' performance degrades with time, thats a fact accepted even by microsoft developers
15:37 <spidey> only if you don't know what you're doing
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15:38 <spidey> i had a win98 box that had win98 install from the day i got it
15:38 <swingle> spidey: ok please tell me what you know about windows that everyone else ignorres
15:38 <spidey> it ran just as good as the first day i installed
15:38 <spidey> and that was only a 700mhz box o.O
15:38 <spidey> swingle, tweaking
15:39 <swingle> the problem is not the speed of the CPU, the problem is bad design
15:39 <spidey> it makes all the difference
15:39 <swingle> bad memory management, bad filesystem design
15:39 <swingle> terrible IPC infrastructure
15:39 <swingle> GDI sucks too
15:39 <spidey> it's funny only linux users have problems with windows =p
15:40 <swingle> nah every ones got problems but linux users complain when they suffer them
15:40 <Commn> swingle : i think what microsoft means is that an idiot can screw windows up in 6 months so badly that it would take days to fix it, and it would be better to just reformat ;p
15:40 <swingle> windows users just accept bugs are part of normal life
15:40 <spidey> i've never heard a halfway decent pc user running windows complain about bugs, crashes, or anything i've heard linux users complain about
15:40 <spidey> lol comm
15:41 <Commn> actually, i havent seen linux crash much
15:41 <swingle> spidey: you have never seen a windows system become completely unresponsive?
15:41 <Commn> one or two kernel panics
15:41 <spidey> i sure haven't
15:41 <Commn> i've seen windows freeze up, but i've seen linux and mac do it too
15:41 <swingle> just code an infinite loop and run it as system user and you'll see it
15:41 <spidey> why would i intentionally cause that?
15:41 <swingle> its very easy to crash windows from user space
15:42 <swingle> thats not that easy with a stable linux
15:42 <swingle> spidey: to prove its easy
15:42 <luke-jr_> swingle: you can do that under Linux
15:42 <swingle> it could happen unintentionally
15:42 <luke-jr_> most Linux are still vuln to fork bombs
15:42 <spidey> uptime:  9 days, 23 Hours, 32 Minutes And 8 Seconds 
15:42 <swingle> luke-jr_: but the fix is known and you can find a linux that is not vulnerable
15:43 <swingle> windows, beeing close source cant be fixed
15:43 <swingle> until billy decides its worth fixing
15:43 <luke-jr_> Idiots wouldn't know to get a fix
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15:43 <Commn> thats why billy has forced updates ;p
15:43 <swingle> luke-jr_: latest fedora versions are fixed
15:43 <swingle> even an idiot can install them
15:43 <Commn> btw, firefox is scaring me with its automatic updates
15:43 <luke-jr_> pfft, Fedora
15:44 <swingle> imho firefox is a piece of shit
15:44 <spidey> Commn, you getting those to?
15:44 <swingle> but thats another discussion
15:44 <spidey> crashes when it tries to update
15:44 <luke-jr_> someone willing to use Fedora would probably use Windows as well
15:44 <spidey> haha
15:44 <spidey> even i won't use FC
15:44 <spidey> and i'ma windows dude =p
15:44 <spidey> though i wouldn't use mandrivia either =/
15:44 <Commn> spidey : ya, you can turn auto update off in the options
15:44 <spidey> i'ma debian fan :D:D
15:45 <swingle> im sure youd like SUSE
15:45 <Commn> spidey : i just think its really bad to have it on by default, it emulates windows 'firefox restart' nonsense
15:45 <spidey> no
15:45 <swingle> why not then?
15:45 <spidey> yea but you can cancel that
15:45 <spidey> by clicking "update when i restart firefox"
15:46 <luke-jr_> Debian pisses me off
15:46 <Commn> Uptime: 6wks 1day 10hrs 38mins 55secs
15:46 <spidey> swingle, i haven't liked any other distro that wasn't debian based, except slackware
15:46 <Commn> win2k :)
15:46 <spidey> so i doubt i'll like suse
15:46 <Commn> altho there is some bug i havent figured out where explorer explodes every week or so
15:47 <Commn> i wish i could find whats causing it
15:47 <spidey> ?
15:47 <swingle> anyway, the point here is not that most distros suck, the point (for me) is that the linux kernel is more stable than windows'
15:47 <Commn> all of a sudden my shell will die, and display every window incorrectly, the only way to fix is force kill explorer and run explorer.exe 
15:47 <swingle> and so are the standard tools
15:47 <spidey> kernal, yea
15:47 <spidey> for servers
15:48 <swingle> for example you can do almost nothing form a windows console
15:48 <spidey> sure you can
15:48 <swingle> its so hard to create a pipe
15:48 <swingle> you dont have access to devices
15:49 <spidey> "Device drivers"
15:49 <swingle> it lacks a /dev which can be of great use
15:49 <spidey> 'er
15:49 <swingle> it lacks a /proc too
15:49 <spidey> "Device manager"
15:49 <spidey> omg
15:49 <spidey> it's like
15:49 <spidey> so not linux
15:49 <spidey> der =p
15:49 <swingle> when you want to see which processes are running you use the task manager right?
15:49 <Commn> pipes are almost the same on windows as linux
15:50 <Commn> named pipes are hard :)
15:50 <Commn> or rather, impossible
15:50 <spidey> no, i don't use taskmanager
15:50 <swingle> ok, tell me how you list a directory and pipe the results to a filter
15:50 <Commn> dir | sort
15:50 <swingle> and then write them to a file
15:50 <Commn> dir | sort > output.file
15:50 <spidey> lol
15:50 <swingle> heh, you know that wont work in all windows
15:51 <spidey> he uses win2k
15:51 <Commn> it works in win95 and up, i think
15:51 <spidey> so it works from anything up for sure
15:51 <Commn> i've been using dir > output forever
15:51 <spidey> i think it works in win98
15:51 <Commn> i use cat file | mplayer - on windows , even :)
15:51 <swingle> ive got some winxp's at work in which that fails
15:51 <Commn> but i installed the gnu-win32 tools too
15:52 <Commn> swingle : you'll have to show me your command line... ;p
15:52 <swingle> i admit winxp can be used to work, id be an idiot if i didnt
15:53 <Commn> this is my biggest pipe script i run on windows
15:53 <Commn> cat clip*.asx*|grep mms|grep -v loading|grep -v warning|grep -v ads|sed "s/<Ref href =//"| tr -st """ " "" | tr -st ">" " """"" | sed "s/^[ \t]*//;s/[ \t]*$//"|sed -n p|sort >mms | notepad mms
15:53 <swingle> but it isnt by farr as solid as any linux
15:53 <Commn> all that runs on win2k cmd.exe :p
15:53 <spidey> btw
15:53 <spidey> to list processes if i'm not lazy i use this
15:53 <Commn> of course, you have to get tr and sed from gnu-win32 stuff (or just compile it with cygwin/mingw)
15:53 <spidey> WMIC /OUTPUT:C:\ProcessList.txt PROCESS get Caption,Commandline,Processid
15:53 <spidey> or, C:\>TASKLIST
15:53 <spidey> =p
15:54 <Commn> spidey : i think sysinternals has a ps port or something
15:54 <Commn> i know it has a kill program
15:54 <Commn> kill <pid>
15:54 <Commn> etc
15:54 <spidey> hrm
15:54 <swingle> spidey: wmic is not available from my command line
15:54 <Commn> i dont have wmic either
15:54 <spidey> wmic:root\cli>
15:54 <spidey> heh
15:54 <swingle> do you know how to get the list of running programs in C ?
15:55 <spidey> i didn't install it
15:55 <spidey> it was jsut there
15:55 <spidey> o.O
15:55 <swingle> i had to do it last week and even that stupid thing is difficult
15:55 <spidey> erm?
15:55 <swingle> there are at least 5 ways to do it, one of them completely undocumented
15:56 <swingle> none of them work in all cases
15:56 <swingle> erm what?
15:56 <spidey> what do you mean
15:56 <spidey> list of "running" programs in C
15:56 <spidey> my default install isn't C btw =p
15:57 <swingle> get what taskman.exe gives you from a C program
15:57 <spidey> ugh?
15:57 <spidey> a c program...
15:57 <swingle> dada.c
15:57 <swingle> gcc dada.c ....
15:57 <swingle> you know
15:57 <Commn> it should be easy to get a process list
15:57 <swingle> ok tell me how to do it
15:58 <Commn> i'm not saying it is
15:58 <spidey> no, i don't know
15:58 <Commn> i'll looksee , one min
15:58 <swingle> ok
15:58  * swingle is impacient
15:58 <spidey> you mean a list of processes?
15:58 <spidey> just a list...
15:58 <swingle> DWORD list[];
15:59 <swingle> filla that with the list of running PIDs
15:59 <Commn> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/PsList.mspx
15:59 <swingle> let me check it out ...
15:59 <spidey> erm
15:59 <swingle> thats a command line utility man
15:59 <spidey> windows has a default command
15:59 <spidey> for that
15:59 <spidey> i forget it
15:59 <spidey> sec
15:59 <swingle> i need to do it from a c program
16:00 <spidey> the programming launguage C ?
16:00 <swingle> yep
16:00 <Commn> swingle : yeah, just saying its possible for one program to do it ;p
16:00 <spidey> could have just said that
16:00 <spidey> lol
16:00 <swingle> not in all cases
16:00 <swingle> i needed to get the list of processes running in all desktops
16:00 <swingle> from all users
16:00 <swingle> i found no good solution for that
16:00 <spidey> C:\> tasklist
16:00 <spidey> ....
16:01 <Commn> spidey : no tasklist here
16:01 <Commn> ;p
16:01 <spidey> win2k the suck =p
16:01 <Commn> :D
16:02 <spidey> deltree C:\*.* /y
16:02 <spidey> =p
16:02 <swingle> heh
16:02 <swingle> i think that cant delete the deltree exec file
16:03 <spidey> if it did what would run deltree?
16:03 <spidey> =p
16:03 <Commn> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/tasklist.mspx?mfr=true
16:03 <Commn> its in winxp i guess ;p
16:03 <swingle> execs are memory mapped in windows so you cant easily delete them while running
16:03 <Commn> winxppro
16:03 <spidey> winxp pro corp here
16:03 <spidey> =p
16:03 <Commn> delete no, rename yes
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16:04 <swingle> Commn: that depends on the security token of the user running it
16:04 <Commn> i have to rename viruses and spyware when i'm fixing my friends pc's
16:04 <Commn> then restart and delete such files
16:04 <Commn> and yes boot disks or live cds are better blah blah
16:04 <spidey> i have a spyware downloader
16:05 <spidey> named command.exe
16:05 <spidey> little shit's protected by windows because of the name
16:05 <spidey> >:|
16:05 <spidey> and i really don't feel like rebooting
16:05 <Commn> swingle : anyways, i dont think i can find the interface for tasklist
16:05 <Commn> hehe
16:05 <swingle> there are a lot of good api spys for windows that you can use to get it
16:06 <swingle> or you could use softice but that would be a bit of an overkill
16:08 <Ady> nice, conversation  
16:08 <Ady> I'm using dictation software 
16:08 <spidey> hey Commn 
16:08 <spidey> you have a fsutil command?
16:08 <swingle> ive heard windows vista comes with dictation software
16:08 <swingle> are you using it?
16:09 <spidey> vista does suck
16:09 <spidey> heh
16:09 <swingle> dunno i havent tried it
16:09 <Ady> what is the problem 
16:09 <swingle> but im sure it'll suck like all its relatives
16:09 <Commn> spidey : no fsutil
16:10 <spidey> i like this
16:10 <swingle> Ady: which software are you using?
16:11 <Ady> electronic dictate system 
16:11 <Ady> e-speaking
16:11 <Commn> hmmm
16:11 <Commn> i tried voice software before
16:11 <Commn> but this was way back in old days :)
16:11 <swingle> is it good? how long is the training time?
16:12 <spidey> http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/7651/untitledjv3.jpg
16:12 <Ady> it it doesn't dictate the same as you want to say
16:12 <Commn> actually, with irc it should work pretty well :)
16:12 <swingle> i tried viavoice once but made many mistakes
16:12 <spidey> who needs /proc anyways
16:12 <spidey> =p
16:12 <Ady> about 3 hours
16:12 <Commn> ya viavoice is what i tried long ago
16:12 <Ady> it uses Microsoft API
16:12 <Commn> spidey : ug xchat
16:12 <spidey> ?
16:12 <spidey> right click the link
16:12 <spidey> open in browser
16:13 <Commn> no
16:13 <Commn> you use xchat
16:13 <spidey> yea
16:13 <spidey> ?
16:13 <Commn> its ugly :)
16:13 <swingle> spidey: i dont have system info
16:13 <spidey> winxp only i tihnk
16:13 <swingle> im using xp now
16:13 <spidey> professional?
16:13 <Commn> spidey : why are you using remote desktop? isnt tightvnc better?
16:13 <swingle> home i think
16:14 <spidey> i have 2.4 physical memory o.o
16:14 <spidey> fuck no
16:14 <spidey> rdp = way faster
16:14 <swingle> spidey has been brainwashed by billy :p
16:14 <spidey> i mean...way faster
16:14 <spidey> tightvnc even lags on LAN
16:14 <spidey> rdp doesn't
16:14 -!- Commn is now known as Compn
16:14 <spidey> use rdp, it's like you're setting at that computer
16:14 <spidey> if it's lan
16:15 <spidey> it's still faster over the internet to
16:15 <swingle> rdp is one of the best things theyve done i have to admit
16:16 <Compn> i was thinking of apple remote desktop
16:16 <Compn> which sucks
16:16 <spidey> lol
16:16 <Compn> winxp rdp is ok :)
16:16 <spidey> besides 
16:16 <spidey> i can't use tightvnc
16:17 <spidey> makes the pc reboot =/
16:17 <swingle> you hate everything that is not from microsoft?
16:17 <spidey> i think my cd was scratched when i install
16:17 <swingle> haha
16:17 <swingle> i makes your pc reboot?
16:17 <swingle> dont blame tightvnc, blame windows man
16:17 <spidey> yes
16:17 <spidey> but only mine
16:17 <spidey> it works fine on my other pc that's using the exact same install as this one
16:17 <spidey> infact they where formatted the same day
16:18 <swingle> ok, so your winxp OS reboots when you run tightvnc and you say winxp is stable?
16:18 <Compn> its stable
16:18 <Compn> if you dont use tightvnc :p
16:18 <Compn> hehehe
16:18 <swingle> heh
16:18 <spidey> yes, i say it's stable
16:18 <swingle> of course its stable if you dont use any of the things that crash it
16:18 <spidey> because it doesn't work on this install doesn't mean a thing
16:18 <spidey> i've fucked this install over and over
16:18 <spidey> and you know what
16:19 <spidey> it still runs perfect
16:19 <spidey> aside from the vnc protocol
16:19 <spidey> =/
16:19 <swingle> perfect unless you run tightvnc dont forget that
16:19 <swingle> you can crash the whole system just running an innocent user space program
16:19 <spidey> ...
16:19 <spidey> tightvnc is the only one that crashes it
16:19 <spidey> and it's more than likely my fault
16:20 <swingle> the only one you know of
16:20 <spidey> as i said, ~I~ fucked this install over
16:20 <spidey> many times
16:20 <spidey> but you know what, i fixed it and it still runs fine except for vnc =p
16:20 <swingle> how can you fuck an install without changing the kernel and make it less stable?
16:20 <swingle> a strong kernel should be inmune to user space fucking ;)
16:21 <spidey> my uncle....porn sites....IE
16:21 <spidey> = viruses
16:21 <spidey> =spyware
16:21 <spidey> also i've modded alot of files i shouldn't have touched
16:21 <swingle> it has to be a security feature, when windows detects porn, spyware and viruses it stops working with tightvnc
16:21 <swingle> it sound logic
16:21 <Compn> spidey : lock your IE down
16:22 <Compn> go into the settings and disable activex and javascript lol
16:22 <spidey> oh so now that you know i have a bug you're gonna attack that, just because it's something -i- did?
16:22 <spidey> what i do to a OS is irrelavent to weather it's stable or not
16:22 <Compn> #armaservers
16:22 <armabot> Compn: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
16:22 <Compn> #armaservers
16:22 <armabot> Compn: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
16:22 <spidey> Compn, ya, was gonna run processes gaurd
16:22 <spidey> but
16:22 <spidey> he's gone now
16:23 <spidey> so i have nothing to worry about :D
16:23 <swingle> if my linux box crashed when i ran tightvnc id assume it was broken and id change the kernel for a fixed one
16:23 <swingle> but when it happens on windows you assume its something you did and dont blame the kernel
16:24 <swingle> thats why linux users complain more about windows
16:24 <spidey> really?
16:24 <swingle> they dont accept crashing as a normal system behavior
16:24 <spidey> it's funny 
16:24 <spidey> everything runs fine on a clean install
16:24 <spidey> it's just when i get to toying with things...i break it
16:24 <spidey> that's right, i break it...not it breaking itself
16:24 <spidey> linux is the same
16:24 <Compn> heh
16:24 <spidey> i break it to
16:24 <Compn> my friend is gonna major in CS
16:25 <Compn> hes in his 3rd or 4th year
16:25 <spidey> so neither os is user friendly
16:25 <swingle> how do you break linux?
16:25 <Compn> he still uses IE 
16:25 <spidey> how?
16:25 <spidey> simple
16:25 <spidey> it allows root
16:25 <spidey> something windows doesn't
16:25 <swingle> it allows root to do what?
16:25 <spidey> that's why my windows installs last longer
16:25 <spidey> root can do anything
16:25 <spidey> including rming the entire / dir
16:25 <swingle> can you be more specific?
16:25 <swingle> yep thats called rming the entire / dir 
16:25 <swingle> not a kernel crash
16:26 <spidey> lol
16:26 <spidey> as i sai
16:26 <Compn> #armaservers
16:26 <armabot> Compn: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
16:26 <Compn> goddamnit
16:26 <spidey> said, i've never had a ~system~ problem
16:26 <spidey> it's ~user~ related
16:26 <swingle> oh come on your system reboots when you run a program isnt that a system problem?
16:27 <spidey> so?
16:27 <spidey> linux isn't perfect when running programs
16:27 <spidey> i've had ubuntu, mepis, raw debian
16:27 <spidey> all fuck up when i use fluxbox
16:27 <spidey> does that mean the kernal unstable?
16:27 <spidey> no
16:27 <spidey> that means the apps fucked
16:27 <swingle> what do you mean by "fuck" ?
16:27 <spidey> or i installed it incorrectly
16:28 <swingle> an application not working can be acceptable
16:28 <swingle> but not a complete reboot
16:28 <Ady> hello to all 
16:28 <spidey> i installed fluxbox then got terminal spammed with errors
16:28 <Ady> #weather santander spain
16:28 <armabot> Ady: Temperature: 63.0°F / 17.2°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h | Updated: 4:16 PM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
16:28 <swingle> lol
16:28 <Ady> #more
16:28 <armabot> Ady: <http://www.ballofdirt.com/journeys/11387.html>; List of long- distance footpaths - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long-distance_footpaths>; Formula One news and comment from The Times and The Sunday Times ...: <http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,12069,00.html>; Unicycle Tours: <http://www.unitours.org/en/tours.php>; Cycling World Championships: (1 more message)
16:28 <swingle> Ady: you are from spain?
16:29 <Ady> yes
16:29 <swingle> yo tambien 
16:29 <Ady> #eliza hi
16:29 <armabot> Ady: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
16:29 <Compn> lol
16:29 <Compn> i joined some noob server
16:29 <Compn> and pwned em all twice ;\
16:29 <Ady> #eliza im good and you? 
16:29 <armabot> Ady: What do you think?
16:29 <Ady> :)
16:29 <spidey> Compn, lol
16:29 <Compn> #eliza you are sexy
16:29 <armabot> Compn: Why do you say i are sexy?
16:29 <spidey> i would ply
16:29 <spidey> only got 30 minutes
16:29 <spidey> gotta go take 3 tests at 11
16:29 <spidey> =/
16:29 <Ady> #insult spiday
16:29 <armabot> spiday - You are nothing but a wayward bucket of egg-sucking cat. 
16:29 <Compn> no one is online 
16:30 <Ady> lol
16:30 <spidey> #bitchslap Ady 
16:30 <swingle> Ady: that thing you are using works in english and spanish simultaneously?
16:30 <spidey> !
16:30 <Ady> english api only
16:30 <Ady> #serverinfo crazy tronners
16:30 <armabot> Ady: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (10/14): +ECT+ Drifter, +ECT+ Smooth, BinDistrib, BlingBling, CTxCrispyNoodle, Freedon Nadd, Puuquie, {Death}, |AST| W4z3r, |HTF|_Shaik
16:30 <spidey> #translate english spanish Temperature: 63.0°F / 17.2°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h | Updated: 4:16 PM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
16:30 <spidey> #translate
16:30 <spidey> erm
16:30 <armabot> spidey: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
16:31 <armabot> spidey: (translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
16:31 <Compn> blah no more arma
16:31 <Ady> #translate english to japanese suck my co*k
16:31 <spidey> wrtlprnft, armabot's broken
16:31 <armabot> Ady: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
16:31 <Ady> mh
16:31 <wrtlprnft> umm
16:31 <swingle> #translate spanish to english probando 1, 2
16:31 <spidey> #armaserver
16:31 <wrtlprnft> i dunno what's up with #translate
16:31 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
16:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (11 players) || =] ESAMU Armagetron World [= (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || armagetron.nixda.net (Original) (4 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (3 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (3 players) || Super Duck Fortress! (2 (1 more message)
16:31 <armabot> swingle: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
16:32 <wrtlprnft> it generally works, it seems. maybe just a temporary issue with the translation server
16:32 <swingle> yep
16:32 <Ady> ok
16:32 <swingle> which server do you use wrtlprnft ?
16:33 <Ady> #date d:mm:yy
16:33 <armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
16:33 <Ady> lol
16:33 <wrtlprnft> swingle: i dunno what it uses, it appears to be babelfish
16:34 <Ady> #dict ady
16:34 <armabot> Ady: No definition for "ady" could be found.
16:34 <swingle> #dict swingle
16:34 <Ady> im undefinable
16:34 <armabot> swingle: gcide: Swingle \Swin"gle\, v. i. [Freq. of swing.] 1. To dangle; to wave hanging. [Obs.] --Johnson. [1913 Webster] 2. To swing for pleasure. [Obs. or Prov. Eng.] [1913 Webster]; gcide: Swingle \Swin"gle\, n. A wooden instrument like a large knife, about two feet long, with one thin edge, used for beating and cleaning flax; a scutcher; -- called also {swingling knife}, {swingling staff}, and {swingling (1 more message)
16:34 <swingle> heh
16:34 <Ady> how was the register command in here
16:34 <Ady> #help register
16:34 <armabot> Ady: (register <name> <password>) -- Registers <name> with the given password <password> and the current hostmask of the person registering. You shouldn't register twice; if you're not recognized as a user but you've already registered, use the hostmask add command to add another hostmask to your already-registered user, or use the identify command to identify just for a session. This command (and all other commands (1 more message)
16:35 <Ady> #register Ady test
16:35 <armabot> Ady: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
16:35 <Ady> hm
16:37 <spidey> hmm
16:37 <spidey> Compn, wanna test something with me?
16:37 <spidey> i wanna see how well this 300mhz will run a tron server
16:39 <Ady> #g 3,2 Ghz in hz
16:39 <armabot> Ady: 3,2 gigahertz = 3,200,000,000 hertz
16:40 <Ady> #dict hz
16:40 <armabot> Ady: wn: Hz n : the unit of frequency; one Hertz has a periodic interval of one second [syn: {Hertz}, {cycle per second}, {cycles/second}, {cps}, {cycle}]
16:40 <Ady> 3200000000 herzs per second on my  machine :)
16:41 <spidey> Compn, ? =p
16:43 <Compn> spidey?
16:43 <Compn> sure
16:43 <Compn> ip?
16:44 <spidey> it should be on the list
16:44 <spidey> ~Spidey~
16:45 <spidey> actually it's not
16:45 <spidey> Compn, default port
16:46 <Compn> ok
16:48 <wrtlprnft> Ady: 1 hz per second = 1 hz^2 = 1/s^2 = 1/s/s ← doesn't make sense
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16:49 <Ady> isnt 1 hz one cycle per second
16:50 <wrtlprnft> yeah
16:50 <Ady> then what does not make sense
16:50 <wrtlprnft> and one hz per second would be one cycle per second per second
16:50 <Ady> heh
16:50 <wrtlprnft> that would be “acceleration” of frequency
16:50 <Ady> then only 3200000000 hz  on my pentium 4
16:50 <Ady> :P
16:51 <wrtlprnft> yep
16:51 <wrtlprnft> but according to luke-jr_ your frequency would be
16:51 <wrtlprnft> #g 3.2 * 2^30
16:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 3.2 * (2^30) = 3.43597384 * 10^(9)
16:52 <Ady> whats your frecuency?
16:53 <wrtlprnft> yours would be 3435973836.8 hz then
16:53 <Ady> and yours?
16:54 <wrtlprnft> 1.3GHz
16:54 <Ady> oh
16:54 <wrtlprnft> currently reporting 597.672 MHz for some reason
16:54 <spidey> o.O
16:54 <wrtlprnft> probably in power save mode
16:54 <spidey> heh
16:54 <Ady> my pentium almost burns this summer
16:55 <spidey> 300mhz with 64mb ram runs a tron  server perfectly
16:55 <spidey> o.O
16:55 <spidey> with winxp on it to =p
16:55 <Ady> record was 105º celsius in the nucle
16:55 <wrtlprnft> hmm, fan is turning and the air coming out isn't that hot…
16:56 <wrtlprnft> temperature:             42 C
16:56 <Ady> no, the filters was blocked with shit
16:56 <wrtlprnft> not hot at all
16:56 <Ady> that was the reason
16:56 <Ady> :P
16:56 <Ady> *was=were
16:56 <wrtlprnft> Ady: just cleaned my cooler a month or so when i got a new keyboard
16:57 <Ady> what GPU do you have
16:57 <Ady> i dont think that you play much but anyways im interested :P
16:57 <wrtlprnft> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
16:58 <Ady> #translate "what wrtlprnft said" to english
16:58 <armabot> Ady: (translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
16:58 <wrtlprnft> haha
16:58 <wrtlprnft> that's the output of lspci
16:58 <wrtlprnft> it appears to be a Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
16:58 <Ady> im asking the clock speed and memory...
16:58 <wrtlprnft> whatever that is
16:59 <wrtlprnft> i dunno :P
16:59 <Ady> :)
16:59 <wrtlprnft> and i don't care
16:59 <Ady> i want a radeon 512 mb, but i think that overclocking this one it will be enough :P
16:59 <wrtlprnft> can't overclock memory, though
17:00 <wrtlprnft> not that i know of at least
17:00 <Ady> memory is a bit useless, the rad 512 has more clock speed, thats what i want
17:00 <Ady> btw, are you really 17?
17:00 <Ady> #g 17*pi
17:00 <armabot> Ady: 17 * pi = 53.4070751
17:00 <Ady> :\
17:01 <luke-jr_> I'm not really 21
17:01 <luke-jr_> I'm 2E
17:01 <luke-jr_> err
17:01 <luke-jr_> 1e
17:01 <Ady> ...
17:01 <wrtlprnft> #base 16 2e
17:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 46
17:01 <wrtlprnft> #base 16 1e
17:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 30
17:01 <wrtlprnft> !
17:02 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: keep in mind you're not just changing bases
17:02 <luke-jr_> #g 30 hexyears in years
17:02 <armabot> luke-jr_: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:02 <luke-jr_> lame
17:02 <wrtlprnft> argh
17:02 <wrtlprnft> stfu
17:02 <luke-jr_> u
17:02 <wrtlprnft> the length of a year is constant!
17:02 <luke-jr_> nope
17:02 <luke-jr_> only in your messed up base 365.25
17:03 <wrtlprnft> it's not 365.25.
17:03 <luke-jr_> .24whatver
17:03 <wrtlprnft> every year ending in 0 has 365 days, except the ones divisble by 400
17:03 <wrtlprnft> or something like that
17:03 <luke-jr_> nope, that's an approximation
17:03 <luke-jr_> just like 3.14 "is" pi
17:04 <Ady> #g pi
17:04 <armabot> Ady: pi = 3.14159265
17:04 <luke-jr_> haha, google's less accurate than I am
17:04 <Ady> thats a lie
17:04 <luke-jr_> 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105 <-- mine memorized
17:04 <Ady> ...
17:04 <wrtlprnft> for most practical purposes pi IS 3.14159265
17:04 <Ady> #g e
17:04 <armabot> Ady: e = 2.71828183
17:04 <luke-jr_> 2 <-- my memory of e
17:04 <luke-jr_> ;p
17:04 <Ady> :P
17:05 <wrtlprnft> :P
17:05 <Ady> #dict :P
17:05 <armabot> Ady: wn, gcide, and foldoc responded: foldoc: P+ ["Experience with Remote Procedure Calls in a Real-Time Control System", B. Carpenter et al, Soft Prac & Exp 14(9):901-907 (Sep 1984)]; wn: P n 1: a multivalent nonmetallic element of the nitrogen family that occurs commonly in inorganic phosphate rocks and as organic phosphates in all living cells; is highly reactive and occurs in several allotropic forms (5 more messages)
17:05 <Ady> uff
17:05 <luke-jr_> lol
17:05 <spidey> Compn, it's up
17:05 <luke-jr_> #g pi^2
17:05 <armabot> luke-jr_: pi^2 = 9.8696044
17:05 <spidey> dunno about master list
17:05 <spidey> lemme check
17:05 <luke-jr_> #help base
17:05 <Ady> #g pi^piê
17:05 <armabot> luke-jr_: (base <fromBase> [<toBase>] <number>) -- Converts <number> from base <fromBase> to base <toBase>. If <toBase> is left out, it converts to decimal.
17:05 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:05 <luke-jr_> #base 10 16 pi
17:05 <armabot> luke-jr_: Error: Invalid <number> for base 10: pi
17:05 <Ady> #g pi^pi^e
17:05 <armabot> Ady: pi^(pi^e) = 1.46408874 * 10^(11)
17:05 <luke-jr_> lame
17:05 <luke-jr_> 3.243f <-- my memory if pi in hexadecimal
17:06 <luke-jr_> of*
17:06 <Ady> #hex 6
17:06 <luke-jr_> #base 10 16 3.14159265358979
17:06 <armabot> luke-jr_: Error: Invalid <number> for base 10: 3.14159265358979
17:06 <Ady> #g hex 6
17:06 <luke-jr_> #base 10 16 314159265358979
17:06 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:06 <armabot> luke-jr_: 11DB9E76A2483
17:06 <spidey> Compn, 
17:06 <luke-jr_> ok, decimal point required
17:06 <spidey> you see U.S.Fortress~default~ on the master list?
17:06 <spidey> o.O
17:06 <Ady> O.o
17:07 <wrtlprnft> spidey: it's not on my master
17:07 <spidey> askdjl;ksj
17:07 <spidey> i put talk_to_master 1 in autoexec.cfg
17:07 <spidey> =(
17:07 <Ady> firewall?
17:07 <Ady> :P
17:07 <spidey> no?
17:07 <luke-jr_> spidey: want me to host it again?
17:07 <Ady> no,no?
17:07 <spidey> it let Compn connect with the ip
17:07 <spidey> so it's not firewall =p
17:07 <Ady> happened to me
17:08 <Ady> i just restarted it about 10 times
17:08 <Ady> then worked
17:08 <Ady> :\
17:08 <wrtlprnft> spidey: ip?
17:08 <spidey>
17:08 <Ady> #ping
17:08 <armabot> pong
17:08 <spidey> port + 1
17:08 <luke-jr_> lol
17:08 <spidey> so it's whatever5
17:08 <luke-jr_> #pong
17:08 <armabot> ping
17:08 <wrtlprnft> greping
17:08 <Ady> #ping
17:08 <armabot> pong
17:09 <Ady> #piong
17:09 <luke-jr_> #alias add piong echo poing\
17:09 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
17:09 <luke-jr_> #alias add piong echo poing
17:09 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
17:09 <luke-jr_> #alias add poing echo piong
17:09 <Ady> #piong
17:09 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
17:09 <luke-jr_> @piong
17:09 <armabot> poing
17:09 <luke-jr_> #piong
17:09 <armabot> poing
17:09 <Ady> haha
17:09 <wrtlprnft> spidey: received your server a few times, never acknowledged
17:09 <Ady> #set mode +o Ady
17:09 <luke-jr_> #list alias
17:09 <spidey> =/
17:09 <armabot> luke-jr_: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
17:09 <wrtlprnft> nt
17:10 <spidey> what's that mean?
17:10 <wrtlprnft> dunno, means that the master couldn't connect to it
17:10 <luke-jr_> #uberinsult Ady 
17:10 <armabot> You are a spidey
17:10 <wrtlprnft> hahaha!
17:10 <spidey> =/
17:10 <Ady> #uberinsult
17:10 <armabot> You are a spidey
17:11 <Ady> hahaa
17:11 <Ady> #g x^2+x+3=0
17:11 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:12 <Ady> #g x+1=0
17:12 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:12 <luke-jr_> x=0
17:12 <Ady> lol
17:12 <luke-jr_> x=-1
17:12 <Ady> 2^x=8, x=?
17:12 <luke-jr_> 3
17:12 <Ady> :P
17:13 <Ady> log 10^x=3
17:13 <spidey> wait wait
17:13 <Ady> hah
17:14 <Ady> slowies
17:14 <spidey> router didn't accept my port forward
17:14 <spidey> gay
17:14 <Ady> luke do you like maths?
17:16 <spidey> wrtlprnft, how about now?
17:17 <luke-jr_> ...
17:17 <wrtlprnft> spidey: sec
17:17 <luke-jr_> x = 1.3028834
17:17 <luke-jr_> I'm just typing these into Qalculate btw
17:17 <spidey> if that doesn't work i'll just dmz that box
17:18 <spidey> cause i disabled windows firewall
17:18 <wrtlprnft> spidey: still doesn't work
17:18 <spidey> >.>
17:20 <spidey> last attempt
17:21 <luke-jr_> before you host w/ me?
17:21 <spidey> no =p
17:21 <spidey> i'm not hosting for long
17:21 <spidey> just wanna see if 300mhz can run it with people in it
17:22 <spidey> with more than 2
17:22 <spidey> anyways
17:22 <spidey> wrtlprnft, now? =/
17:23 <spidey> wait
17:23 <spidey> do i need tcp opened for the master server?
17:25 <spidey> it's sad when you forget how to host a tron server =))
17:26 <wrtlprnft> i don't think so, now
17:27 <wrtlprnft> *no
17:27 <spidey> hm
17:27 <spidey> lets see if it advertises on lan game
17:27 <wrtlprnft> still not
17:27 <wrtlprnft> though now it says [2006/11/09 17:20:41] [1] Updated server:
17:27 <spidey> weird
17:27 <spidey> it advertises lan
17:28 <spidey> there can't be a firewall
17:28 <spidey> i disabled it >.>
17:28 <spidey> wait
17:28 <spidey> if it where a firewall it wouldn't show lan either, right?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> well, if outside people can connect?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> s/?/…/
17:30 <spidey> yea
17:30 <spidey> Compn, did
17:31 <wrtlprnft> i can, too
17:31 <spidey> 'er
17:33 <spidey> TALK_TO_MASTER 1
17:33 <spidey> SERVER_NAME U.S.Fortress~default~
17:33 <spidey> ADMIN_PASS 
17:33 <spidey> include examples\cvs_test\fortress_complete.cfg
17:33 <spidey> my autoexec.cfg o.O
17:33 <Ady> talk_to_master has to be edited in dedicated config file
17:33 <spidey> no
17:33 <spidey> you don't edit dedicated_config
17:34 <Ady> i just say
17:34 <spidey> you make a autoexec.cfg and put all your settings in there
17:34 <spidey> =p
17:34 <Ady> autoexec changes settings after server starts
17:34 <spidey> doesn't matter
17:34 <Ady> changing talk to master doesnt change anything while the server is running
17:34 <spidey> it still loads it before it connects
17:34 <spidey> it loads autoexec as soon as it's started
17:34 <Ady> ok
17:34 <spidey> wrtlprnft, tell him =p
17:34 <Ady> lol!
17:35 <Ady> -.-
17:35 <Ady> im testing vopice commands
17:35 <Ady> "cat face" is this
17:35 <Ady> -.-
17:35 <Ady> lol is this one
17:35 <Ady> lOl!
17:35 <Ady> :P
17:35 <Compn> it misspelled voice?
17:35 <Ady> no
17:35 <Compn> ah
17:35 <Ady> it works perfectly
17:36 <Ady> even with my spanish accent
17:36 <Compn> exclamation point! exclamation point!
17:36 <wrtlprnft> Ady: it should work if you change it while the server's running
17:36 <Compn> hehe
17:36 <Ady> well, wrt it doesnt
17:36 <Ady> lol!
17:36 <spidey> it does so
17:37 <spidey> i've hosted a server before =p
17:37 <spidey> it's just not working this time o.O
17:37 <wrtlprnft> in dem wo src drin ist
17:37 <Ady> I'm pasting dictator testing
17:37 <Ady> ich bin professional nutte
17:38 <spidey> Ady, also if he sees the server sending a request on his master server
17:38 <spidey> that means there's nothing wrong with the config
17:38 <spidey> it's something else
17:38 <spidey> =p
17:38 <wrtlprnft> that last line wasn't for you
17:38 <Ady> that something else disappeared when i put talk to master 1 in dedicated.cfg :\
17:39 <Ady> or just in settings.cfg
17:39 <spidey> then our something elses are different
17:39 <spidey> obviously
17:40 <wrtlprnft> Ady: make a file called server_info.cfg
17:40 <wrtlprnft> and put the master line in there
17:40 <Ady> i think something else of spidey/something else of ady=1 :P
17:40 <spidey> Ady, you're wrong
17:40 <wrtlprnft> if you put it into settings_custom.cfg it'll be loaded to late, and you aren't supposed to edit settings_dedicated.cfg
17:40 <Ady> no, i dont have that problem now
17:40 <spidey> because 
17:40 <spidey> for one
17:40 <spidey> i have it in both autoexec AND dedicated_whatever
17:41 <spidey> i have the whole time, actually
17:41 <Ady> i think something else of spidey/something else of ady= x :\
17:41 <Ady> #topic
17:41 <spidey> besides, wrtl sees it, something's just stopping my server from responding
17:42 <Ady> could be your 300mhz? :P
17:42 <wrtlprnft> nah
17:42 <spidey> no?
17:42 <Ady> a 300mhz is like a retaded guy running a F1 race...
17:43 <spidey> that's what you think
17:43 <Ady> or *driving in
17:43 <Ady> i dont think, i suggest
17:43 <Ady> sugest*
17:43 <spidey> the processor has nothing to do with it
17:43 <spidey> k?
17:43 <Ady> dont shot me!
17:43 <Ady> :P
17:44 <wrtlprnft> spidey: did you try restarting it?
17:44 <spidey> lots of times =p
17:44 <Ady> #weather Infierno
17:44 <spidey> lemme try again
17:44 <armabot> Ady: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "Infierno".
17:44 <spidey> now?
17:45 <Ady> the 2armagetron" name was idea of lucifer?
17:48 <Ady> #dial 943663726
17:48 <Ady> any of you fancy some conver in skype?
17:48 <spidey> i don't use skype
17:49 <Ady> so you have phone?
17:49 <spidey> ?
17:49 <Ady> *do
17:49 <spidey> yes but you're not getting my number =p
17:49 <Ady> THC would give it to me by entering ur IP :P
17:50 <spidey>
17:50 <Ady> open port 25  o.O
17:50 <spidey> ...
17:51 <spidey> yes it's the router ident daemon
17:51 <Ady> its the mail port...
17:51 <spidey> it's the router
17:51 <Ady> whatever...
17:52 <Ady> i bet that you are not able to delete some guys HDD
17:52 <Ady> try with :P
17:52 <spidey> ...
17:53 <Ady> why do you want a server
17:54 <spidey> was you daydreaming through the whole conversation?
17:54 <Ady> i was working
17:54 <spidey> involving portscanning?
17:54 <Ady> i dont do that things now
17:55 <spidey> ......
17:55 <spidey> i gotta go
17:55 <spidey> test on books
17:55 <Ady> but used to much time ago, when i was a damaged-brain kid
17:55 <spidey> bah
17:55 <spidey> bbl
17:55 <Ady> cya
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18:52 <wrtlprnft>
18:52 <wrtlprnft> argh
18:53 <wrtlprnft> sorry, wrong channel again
18:54 <spidey> back
18:54 <spidey> xD
19:04 <spidey> hrm
19:04 <spidey> reboot
19:05 <spidey> in a sec
19:05 <spidey> o.O
19:07 <spidey> ?xplorer.exe   << rofl@spyware 
19:11 <luke-jr_work> um
19:11 <luke-jr_work> good luck deleting tha
19:11 <luke-jr_work> t
19:12 <luke-jr_work> w/o deleting explorer.exe
19:14 <spidey> ..
19:15 <spidey> the fuck you on about?
19:20 <luke-jr_work> del ?xplorer.exe will delete both
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19:30 <Compn> haha
19:30 <Compn> its easy to get around that
19:30 <Compn> dir /x
19:30 <Compn> del _xplor~1.exe 
19:30 <Compn> ;p
19:30 <Compn> dir /x pwns
19:36 <luke-jr_work> you assume it's not really ?xplorer.exe :p
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19:39 <swingle> hmmm the web page seem sto be broken
19:40 <swingle> --> Warning: main(functions.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/groups/a/ar/armagetronad/htdocs/includes/header.php on line 
19:40 <swingle> oh, it got fixed in the second reload
19:43 <swingle> where is the code:blocks project file for arma?
19:52 <luke-jr_work> in svn like everything else
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19:54 <swingle> i meant where in the tree but ive found it already :)
19:54 <spidey> dude
19:54 <spidey> you know what i love
19:54 <swingle> my problem now is it wont compile
19:55 <spidey> i love it when dumbass's make there virus/spyware/trojan show up in start > run > msconfig > startup tab
19:55 <swingle> hehe
19:55 <spidey> made my life alot easier
19:55 <spidey> :D:D
19:56 <luke-jr_work> lol
19:56 <luke-jr_work> swingle, well, most of us don't care to support Windoze
19:56 <swingle> where can i get a gcc for windows that can build arma?
19:56 <luke-jr_work> swingle, I think there's like 2 Win devs
19:56 <spidey> wait
19:56 <luke-jr_work> um, doesn't it come w/ codeblocks
19:56 <luke-jr_work> ?
19:56 <swingle> luke-jr_work: i wouldnt care either but there are no linux drivers for my modem
19:57 <spidey> so swingle's a linux guy that hates windows but uses it as a main computer?
19:57 <luke-jr_work> you use dialup?
19:57 <swingle> so i have to chose between using windoze or beeing incommunicated
19:57 <spidey> o.O
19:57 <swingle> yep :(((
19:57 <spidey> you can use dialup
19:57 <spidey> with linux
19:57 <spidey> ...
19:57 <swingle> not with my modem
19:57 <luke-jr_work> spidey, not without a modem
19:57 <swingle> its an old conexant chipset
19:57 <spidey> luke-jr_work, no....shit...
19:57 <luke-jr_work> swingle, you know modems are like $10?
19:57 <spidey> you can't use dialup without a modem anyways
19:57 <spidey> =p
19:57 <swingle> yep i should go and buy one
19:57 <luke-jr_work> spidey, in Windoze you can
19:58 <swingle> but there are very few real modems out there
19:58 <luke-jr_work> Windoze lets you use phone lines as modems
19:58 <swingle> most of them are winmodems
19:58 <luke-jr_work> swingle, BTW, there's illegal drivers for Conexant modems
19:58 <spidey> anyways
19:58 <luke-jr_work> err, phone lines
19:58 <spidey> i have a serial modem
19:58 <spidey> for dialup
19:59 <spidey> i used ages ago
19:59 <luke-jr_work> all modems are serial
19:59 <swingle> luke-jr_work: where can i find those drivers?
19:59 <spidey> don't ask him that
19:59 <spidey> he'll start on about how they're immoral
19:59 <luke-jr_work> swingle, portage?
19:59 <swingle> haha
19:59 <swingle> luke-jr_work: those are the linuxant drivers
19:59 <luke-jr_work> spidey, better one immoral driver than an entire immoral OS
19:59 <swingle> and they are limited to 14kbps without paying
19:59 <spidey> here we go
19:59 <swingle> i dont have the time to reverse them
20:00 <swingle> btw you use gentoo too?
20:00 <luke-jr_work> swingle, so use the crack
20:00 <spidey> wait
20:00 <spidey> luke-jr_work, thought you wouldn't use windows
20:00 <luke-jr_work> spidey, I don't?
20:01 <swingle> i didnt find that crack last time i checked
20:01 <spidey> but i know you have win98, remembering from the other day
20:01 <swingle> are you sure theres a working crack for those drivers?
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20:02 <spidey> 7well
20:03 <spidey> i thought that300mhz could be overclocked to 410mhz
20:03 <spidey> but the fastest i could get it was 375mhz
20:03 <swingle> what happened when you reached 375?
20:03 <swingle> melted chip?
20:03 <spidey> no?
20:03 <spidey> it got loud and all the fans kicked in
20:03 <spidey> so i put a box fan on it
20:04 <spidey> it's not doing much anymore
20:04 <spidey> heh
20:04 <swingle> :)
20:04 <spidey> it's like 70 degrees in my room
20:04 <swingle> you need to get some cold beer from the refrigetator then
20:04 <spidey> there isn't anymore
20:05 <swingle> wow, you have crisis then
20:05 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: GodTodd, Niii, [dlh], luke-jr_work, z-manuel
20:05 <spidey> my grandma threw it all away cause it's been there since mylast birthday =/
20:05 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Niii, z-manuel, GodTodd, [dlh], luke-jr_work
20:05 <swingle> hmmm strange guy this spidey, windows user, overclocker, non beer drinker ...
20:06 <spidey> pot smoker
20:06 <spidey> =p
20:06 <swingle> lol
20:06 <swingle> nah thats normal :p
20:06 <spidey> hm
20:06 <spidey> well
20:06 <spidey> that's about it
20:06 <luke-jr_work> beer sucks
20:06 <spidey> i don't like to drink, cause i can't control myself
20:06 <spidey> as where when i smoke pot i can
20:06 <spidey> but still get the high =p
20:07 <swingle> i wasnt talking about getting drunk
20:07 <spidey> well
20:07 <spidey> beer sucks
20:07 <luke-jr_work> so what did I miss during the netsplit?
20:07 <spidey> nothing?
20:07 <luke-jr_work> spidey, copycat
20:07 <spidey> well it does
20:07 <spidey> =p
20:07 <swingle> luke-jr_work: all the naked girls are gone now sorry
20:08 <luke-jr_work> good
20:08 <luke-jr_work> they need to get some clothes on
20:08 <swingle> we had a towel party
20:08 <spidey> swingle, incase you didn't know
20:08 <spidey> luke-jr_, is a fag
20:08 <luke-jr_work> bs
20:08 <luke-jr_work> don't you try smoking me
20:08 <swingle> heh
20:09 <spidey> only guy i know that bitches cause a girl got naked
20:09 <spidey> fag
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20:09 <swingle> well, it depends on the girl
20:09 <spidey> he doesn't care
20:09 <spidey> lol
20:09 <swingle> i know some girls i wouldnt like to see naked
20:09 <spidey> that's another story
20:09 <spidey> =p
20:09 <luke-jr_work> sure I do
20:09 <luke-jr_work> if it's my wife, in our bedroom, that's one thing ...
20:10  * Ady slaps luke
20:10 <spidey> good job
20:10 <swingle> yep, let the spanking begin ...
20:11 <swingle> its so damn difficult to compile something on windows
20:11 <swingle> i hating it more by moments
20:11 <Ady> swingle: garo?
20:11 <swingle> garo??
20:12 <Ady> como te llamas
20:12 <swingle> dani, no me conoces
20:12 <Ady> nunca te he visto jugar
20:12 <swingle> juego como siro
20:12 <Ady> ah,entonces si :P
20:12 <swingle> :)
20:12 <Ady> de donde?
20:13 <swingle> con el modem es un poco frustrante jugar asi que no practico tanto como querria
20:13 <swingle> de madrid, tu?
20:13 <Ady> cantabria
20:13 <swingle> ok
20:13 <Ady> edad?
20:13 <swingle> nombre, edad, profesion? :p
20:13 <spidey> Virtual Memory: Max Size:  4,977 MB
20:13 <spidey> O.O
20:13 <swingle> 23
20:13 <luke-jr_work> wtf
20:14 <Ady> y sigues jugando a juegos con 23 años? :\
20:14 <spidey> putting this empty 20gig partition to work
20:14 <spidey> lol
20:14 <swingle> jaja y lo que me queda 
20:14 <swingle> tu cuantos tienes?
20:14 <Ady> es un secreto :D
20:14 <swingle> anda ya
20:14  * Ady anda
20:15 <swingle> joe pues dimelo por un privado
20:15  * Ady no está autorizado a decirlo.
20:15 <spidey> O.O
20:15 <swingle> ya veo, yo te digo nombre y edad y tu no sueltas nada ei
20:15  * spidey breaks out the translator
20:16 <swingle> deberiamos hablar en ingles para que la gente se entere
20:16 <Ady> ok
20:16 <swingle> you wont need the translator eny more
20:16 <Ady> stills broken?
20:17 <swingle> that was enough spanish for today :)
20:17 <Ady> #translate english to japanese hi
20:17 <armabot> Ady: '\x00\x00'
20:17 <Ady> :P
20:17 <Ady> #translate japanese to english \x010100x\
20:17 <armabot> Ady: \x010100x\
20:17 <spidey> O.O
20:18 <Ady> #translate english to russian spider
20:18 <armabot> Ady: '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00'
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20:19 <Ady> thats more like "tarakan"
20:19 <Ady> #eliza i love you
20:19 <armabot> Ady: Please, describe your relationship with me.
20:20 <Ady> #uberinsult ady
20:20 <armabot> You are a spidey
20:22 <Ady> time to work, bye all, keep sleeping :P
20:22 <swingle> cya
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20:38 <swingle> if i want to compile arma using gcc on windows should i define WIN32 ?
20:39 <luke-jr_work> your compiler should
20:39 <swingle> its giving me some compile errors
20:39 <swingle> it doesnt define NAN
20:39 <swingle> and isBlank() is redefined in the code
20:40 <luke-jr_work> it's quite possible the current Svn is broken on Win
20:40 <luke-jr_work> like I said, we don't usually support it
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20:55 <wrtlprnft> anyone ever heard of a CPU going down to half its usual clock speed and refusing to go back?
20:57 <swingle> that happens to centrinos sometimes
20:57 <swingle> the speedstep driver is broken on some linux kernels i think
20:58 <wrtlprnft> hmm, it's a pentium m
20:58 <swingle> yep thats it
20:58 <wrtlprnft> Linux laptop #3 PREEMPT Mon Sep 11 16:10:58 CEST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1300MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
20:58 <wrtlprnft> is it that recent?
20:59 <swingle> i bought mine 2 years ago
20:59 <wrtlprnft> no, i mean, is it fixed in the current kernel, do you know anything about it?
20:59 <wrtlprnft> the processor is some 3 years old
21:00 <swingle> can you show me the output of lsmod?
21:01 <swingle> and the list of modules you compiled with your kernel
21:01 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/lsmod
21:01 <wrtlprnft> uh, where do i get that list?
21:01 <swingle> i think it was modprobe -l 
21:02 <wrtlprnft> yep
21:02 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/modprobe-l
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21:03 <Program> woo, java in firefox
21:03 <swingle> try this: modprobe speedstep-centrino
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21:03 <swingle> then show me the output of lsmod and dmesg|tail
21:03 <wrtlprnft> nice!
21:04 <wrtlprnft> thanks a lot!
21:04 <swingle> :)
21:04 <wrtlprnft> the frequency is showing up correctly again, still need the output?
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21:04 <swingle> nah i needed it to check if it worked
21:04 <swingle> you should autoload that module on start
21:05 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
21:05 <swingle> ok
21:05 <wrtlprnft> done :)
21:06 <swingle> wd
21:06 <swingle> what distro do you use?
21:06 <wrtlprnft> gentoo
21:06 <wrtlprnft> /etc/modules.autoload :)
21:06 <swingle> yep
21:06 <wrtlprnft> ah, now klaptop also shows the performance profiles again :)
21:06 <swingle> i prefer gnome
21:07 <swingle> it has a small applet you can put on your panel
21:07 <wrtlprnft> yeah, kde too, and it's called klaptop
21:07 <swingle> i miss my gentoo, damn winmodem ...
21:07 <swingle> sigh
21:07 <wrtlprnft> can't get another one?
21:07 <wrtlprnft> a real modem, that is
21:08 <swingle> i havent found it
21:08 <swingle> all i find are winmodems
21:08 <wrtlprnft> if you're german: http://www.tuxhardware.de/category73_158/product1256/product_info.html
21:08 <swingle> im spanish :)
21:09 <swingle> from spain not mexico
21:09 <wrtlprnft> well, you could search for the model name or something
21:10 <wrtlprnft> Conceptronic C56EW
21:14 <swingle> it looks like what i need
21:14 <swingle> thx
21:15 <wrtlprnft> yw
21:20 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (11 players) || Norm's Place (10 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || armagetron.nixda.net (Original) (9 players) || Nixda.net - Sumo Server (6 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (5 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (5 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || The Lobster (1 more message)
21:21 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
21:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.31in / 992hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM AST; Tonight - Periods of drizzle ending this evening then cloudy with a few showers beginning overnight. Local amount 2 mm. Fog patches. Low 10.; Friday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of showers early in the morning. Wind (1 more message)
21:21 <Vanhayes> #more
21:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: becoming northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40 in the morning. Temperature steady near 10. Friday night..a few clouds. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the evening. Low plus 1.; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 11.;
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22:03 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
22:03 <armabot> madmax|pt: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Nixda.net - Sumo Server (9 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || armagetron.nixda.net (Original) (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (5 players) || The Lobster Cage (4 players) || =] ESAMU Armagetron (1 more message)
22:04 <madmax|pt> #serverdetails nixda
22:04 <armabot> madmax|pt: Nixda.net - Sumo Server: Players (9/16): -|ct|- play, newbÎd, xS delarge, |AST| FoFo, ~*<y<lo*~, ~luAp~, ~{GP}~woorm.bot, °°Gay-Lin, °°qain
22:22 -!- swingle [i=swingle@87.Red-81-40-152.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby"]
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22:52 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: beta.aa.net down?
22:52 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
22:52 <ghableska> hello
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> hello
22:53 <wrtlprnft> hi
22:53 <Vanhayes> hey
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/images/e/e0/Technologies.png
22:54 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, yes
22:54 <ghableska> O_O
22:54 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, that's not all, I'm sure
22:54 <luke-jr_work> my wife messed up the network at home
22:54 <luke-jr_work> :\
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> she did that by taking off her clothes?
22:55 <luke-jr_work> I told her to take one of the cable modems to our new apt
22:55 <luke-jr_work> somehow that got a switch unplugged, I think
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> didn't you know women are too stupid to be trusted with any technology?
22:56 <luke-jr_work> stfu Lucifer_arma 
22:57 <ghableska> :P
22:57 <luke-jr_work> maybe your wife is
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's after Architectural Engineering :)
23:08 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
23:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.31in / 993hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM AST; Tonight - Periods of drizzle ending this evening then cloudy with a few showers beginning overnight. Local amount 2 mm. Fog patches. Low 10.; Friday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of showers early in the morning. Wind (1 more message)
23:08 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:08 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 57.2°F (3:54 PM CST on November 09, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa. 
23:08 <Vanhayes> #more
23:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: becoming northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40 in the morning. Temperature steady near 10. Friday night..a few clouds. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the evening. Low plus 1.; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 11.;
23:11 <Vanhayes> argh, no car and its raining out :(
23:11 <ghableska> walk :P
23:11 <ghableska> it's good for you
23:22 <Vanhayes> not in the rain
23:22 <ghableska> psh
23:23 <Vanhayes> the rink is like 2 kilometers away
23:23 <ghableska> oh
23:23 <ghableska> #g 2 km in mi
23:23 <armabot> ghableska: 2 kilometers = 1.24274238 mi
23:27 <Vanhayes> hmm, might still go if I can scrounge some money tho
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Log from 2006-11-10:
--- Day changed Fri Nov 10 2006
00:06 <Ady> hi
00:06 <wrtlprnft> hi
00:07  * wrtlprnft will be going to bed soon
00:07  * Ady same
00:07  * spidey samenot
00:07 -!- Niii [n=Niii@lnr56-1-82-246-48-71.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Quitte"]
00:13 <Compn> #armaservers
00:13 <armabot> Compn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (14 players) || Nixda.net - Sumo Server (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || Stormcrow's Tower (6 players) || armagetron.nixda.net (Original) (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (5 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (5 players) || (1 more message)
00:14 <Ady> #serverinfo craz
00:14 <armabot> Ady: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (14/14): $[ICE]$ [Tyler], ={S}=|VanD3TTa|, CTxCrispyNoodle, CT|Ðq.Fu×|, CT×ECB, Dragon, niro, Perdio, sycophant, TOM, Zop, [mho]ese, ~|Sh0j0|~, «­åæ£,ÇÄ®º
00:16 -!- Ady [n=ady@53.Red-88-4-57.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
00:21 <Vanhayes> hmm
00:21 <Vanhayes> #coin
00:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
00:21 <Vanhayes> heads I head out tails I dont bother
00:21 <Vanhayes> #coin
00:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: heads
00:21 <Vanhayes> ok then be back in a while
00:33 -!- DrJoeTr0n [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-36-178-77.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
00:33 <DrJoeTr0n> half of my kit came in today :/
00:34 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-055-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
00:34 <joda_bot> hi all
00:34 <joda_bot> Is z-man around ?
00:36 <DrJoeTr0n> he quit armagetron
00:36 <DrJoeTr0n> never to return
00:36 <DrJoeTr0n> its actually a pretty fun story
00:38 <Your_mom_arma> does it involve robots?
00:39 <DrJoeTr0n> fembots
00:39 <DrJoeTr0n> and something about subway turnstials
00:39 <DrJoeTr0n> i...i cant remember specifics
00:40 <joda_bot> :-)
00:41 <Vanhayes> Bah, Rain sucks
00:42 <joda_bot> make him snow ;)
00:42 <DrJoeTr0n> or destroy the earths climates
00:42 <Vanhayes> Im on it
00:43 <DrJoeTr0n> or move to mars
00:43 <DrJoeTr0n> pre total recall
00:43 <Your_mom_arma> joe does your kit come with a cowbell?
00:44 <Vanhayes> Im gonna buy a tonnes of areosol cans and just spray them untill the wether changes
00:44 <Your_mom_arma> haha
00:44 <Vanhayes> man the cowbell is essential
00:46  * Vanhayes always thinks of will ferral in that SNL skit whenever I hear a cowbell
00:46 <DrJoeTr0n> i already have a cowbell
00:46 <DrJoeTr0n> it sounds like the one from low rider too :d
00:47 <Vanhayes> hmm, anyone know any buddhists?
00:48 <DrJoeTr0n> i do
00:49  * Your_mom_arma does
00:49 <DrJoeTr0n> aww the bass drum pedal is snapped :/
00:50 <DrJoeTr0n> ah whatever, i have one thats already a billion time better
01:04 <Vanhayes> well, someone just called saying they were from the buddhist temple, asking if I would like to support them.
01:04 <Vanhayes> And this is the first time Ive heard of that, so I think it might have been a scam
01:05 <Your_mom_arma> sounds like it
01:06 <Your_mom_arma> especially since they're supposed to strive to want nothing iirc
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01:12 <DrJoeTr0n> haha
01:12 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah
01:13 <DrJoeTr0n> sounds likea  protestant church in disguise :d
01:14 <luke-jr_> dumb protestants
01:15 <DrJoeTr0n> not dumb
01:15 <DrJoeTr0n> crafty
01:15 <DrJoeTr0n> ;d
01:15 <luke-jr_> dumb too
01:15 <luke-jr_> most anyhow
01:15 <DrJoeTr0n> does UPS ship on national holidays?
01:28 <spidey> when's a national holiday?
01:31 <luke-jr_> lol
01:32 <DrJoeTr0n> tommarow
01:32 <spidey> ...
01:32 <DrJoeTr0n> veterans day?
01:33 <Vanhayes> rememberance day is saturday
01:34 <Vanhayes> #armaconfig team
01:34 <DrJoeTr0n> and give your joe presents day is next saturday :D
01:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_COLOR: Allow a team to be named after a color (default: 1) || ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_LEADER: Set to 1 to allow team leader to set a team, 0 otherwise. (default: 0) || ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_PLAYER: Allow a team to be named after the leading player (default: 1) || AUTO_TEAM: Flag indicating whether players should be put into teams automatically. (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM: Multiplicator to (9 more messages)
01:36 <Vanhayes> ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_LEADER: Set to 1 to allow team leader to set a team, 0 otherwise. anyon know how that works?
01:38 <spidey> ??
01:38 <spidey> team name
01:38 <spidey> ?
01:38 <spidey> like
01:38 <spidey> spidey - team pwnage
01:38 <spidey> like blue and gold
01:38 <Vanhayes> ya, tried it but it didnt work
01:38 <spidey> team red and team green
01:38 <spidey> =p
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01:39 <spidey> hm
01:42 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
01:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
01:43 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails fort
01:43 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (9/14): (*^<*>^*), -=}ID< Restrict, Anumeric, Cube, johnny, Napoleon, Ogre Battle, vtjake, ~|*ReCoGnIzE*|~
01:43 <Your_mom_arma> ping
01:43 <Your_mom_arma> well
01:44 <Your_mom_arma> van lets go to one of lukes experimental servers
01:45 <Your_mom_arma> nm, its not up
01:47 <Your_mom_arma> either way in 3.0 theres a prompt for team name in player setup so my team always ends up being called 'monster trux' if im team leader and ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_LEADER 1
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01:49 <Vanhayes> ya, Im trying to get 2020 server to do it, but I dont think it will work
01:49 <Vanhayes> spidey has aids
01:49 <spidey> that was for another channel
01:50 <spidey> a joke, you wouldn't get =p
01:50 <Vanhayes> you still have aids
01:50 <Vanhayes> thats pretty funny
01:50 <spidey> got them from you
01:50 <spidey> =/
01:50 <Vanhayes> ewww
01:53 <Vanhayes> I think its the fortress examples thats stopping it fromworking
01:54 <Your_mom_arma> is it reverting everyround?
02:02 <Vanhayes> doesnt change at all
02:10 <spidey> DrJoeTr0n, 
02:10 <spidey> veterans day isn't till the 11th o.O
02:11 <spidey> saterday.
02:11  * spidey went and looked on the calender :D:D:D
02:20 <ghableska> back
02:21 <Vanhayes> welcome
02:22 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:22 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (6:54 PM CST on November 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa. 
02:29 <ghableska> hahaha
02:29 <ghableska> http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2006/11/robot_identifie.html
02:29 <joda_bot> here
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02:29 <joda_bot> ?
02:29 -!- Arma07 is now known as Durka
02:29 <Durka> dhi
02:29 <joda_bot> :-)
02:30 <joda_bot> ok, what's the issue seems to work ?
02:30 <Durka> i just "PM"ed u
02:30 <Durka> i think
02:30 <joda_bot> PM in IRC ?
02:31 <Durka> o well
02:31 <Durka> just join a private channel
02:31 <Durka> type /join #jodaiscool
02:31 <joda_bot> can't you answer me ?
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02:36 <Durka> lol
02:36 <Durka> hi
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03:02 <ghableska> uh
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03:03 <Lucifer_arma> Jeff Bingaman, incoming chairman of the energy committee, will likely put climate change at the centre of his agenda, bolstered by support from John Dingell his House counterpart. <-- Can we show Germany what Kyoto was all about now?  :)
03:04 <spidey> you guys should get a uno bot
03:04 <spidey> =p
03:06 <Vanhayes> runo bot?
03:06 <Vanhayes> uno*
03:06 <spidey>  //join #fallin-angels
03:06 <spidey> =p
03:06 <joda_bot> I'm game if the US will enforce kyoto protocols or even demand more restrictions
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03:11 <Lucifer_arma> I'd just as soon not join the kyoto treaty, do our own thing, and do it better
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> but what can I say, I'm crazy
03:12 <Durka> hi luci
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> the joke, of course, is that after making a big deal of the US not joining, Germany went and did some really bad things themselves that should prevent them from meeting their kyoto obligations.  I haven't followed it since then, this would have been a year ago or so
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> so maybe you guys pulled it out and got back in line, I don't know.  :)
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> hi Durka (prick) 
03:12 <Durka> ???
03:12 <Durka> joke?
03:12 <spidey> lol
03:13 <Durka> hi spidey
03:13 <spidey> hi
03:13 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: I don't know either
03:14 <joda_bot> ;)
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> all's I know is I voted for the guy who wanted Texas to get 15% of its power from texan-owned renewable power sources (wind and sun, mostly) by 2010
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> and he lost :(
03:15 <joda_bot> does not surprise me with texan gas lobby ;)
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03:17 <Lucifer_arma> it was close.  I swear, if it hadn't been a 4-cornered race he would've won.  Grrrr
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, let's hope the democrats really push something past bush
03:18 <joda_bot> how about pushing bush past the white house ? ;)
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> and put up their own guy in 08.  I'm not a democrat, mind you, I don't join clans, right?  But I think we need some more time with democrats running things
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, let's just push him right into the potomac :)
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03:19  * joda_bot requires advanced knowledge about potomacs
03:19 <joda_bot> what is a potomac ?
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> um, it's the river that goes through Washington DC :)
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> right in front of the white house, iirc
03:20 <joda_bot> oh ok
03:20 <joda_bot> as long as his head stay inside the river for more than 3 days I'm fine ;)
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> I think it'll take fire to take him out.  I just watched interview with a vampire, and it's definitely going to hvae to be fire
03:21 <joda_bot> nah, bush is not that evil, but a bit less commercial, military and lobby influences might help the us get some better politics
03:22 <joda_bot> but those would help every country, just well the finaces would go to hell
03:29 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
03:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.34in / 993hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM AST; Tonight - Periods of drizzle ending this evening then cloudy with a few showers beginning overnight. Local amount 2 mm. Fog patches. Low 10.; Friday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of showers early in the morning. Wind (1 more message)
03:29 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:30 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (7:54 PM CST on November 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa. 
03:31 <Durka> #cyborg Vanhayes
03:31 <armabot> Durka: V.A.N.H.A.Y.E.S.: Versatile Artificial Neohuman Hardwired for Accurate Yelling and Efficient Sabotage
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03:34 <Durka> hi again
03:34 <joda_bot> spam kicked
03:34  * joda_bot should NEVER paste configs into IRC
03:35 <ghableska> heh
03:35 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
03:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || °¯ps arena (9 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (5 players) || Norm's Place (5 players) || Stormcrow's Tower (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || Strawberry Fields (4 players) || icemans network nuke zone - www.icemans.net (4 (1 more message)
03:36 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo °¯ps arena
03:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: °¯ps arena: Players (6/16): CrAzZ3 W1XDr3W, CT|P4, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, {Cov}Rabbit, ~*<y<lo*~, ~*SP*~oO.h@mEr
03:37 <ghableska> #lastseen vangaynus
03:37 <armabot> ghableska: timed out
03:38 <joda_bot> #lastseen joda_bot
03:38 <armabot> joda_bot: ~*SP*~joda.bot has last been seen on °¯ps arena 3 minutes ago.
03:38 <ghableska> #lastseen ghableska
03:38 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 2 days 2 hours 10 minutes ago.
03:38 <joda_bot> #lastseen z-man
03:38 <Durka> #lastseen Durka
03:38 <armabot> joda_bot: Z-Man has last been seen on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress: Match going on, participants only. 4 days 4 hours 21 minutes ago.
03:38 <armabot> Durka: Durka has last been seen on °¯ps arena 16 minutes ago.
03:38 <Durka> #lastseen Player 1
03:38 <armabot> Durka: Player 1 seems to be on Fortress right now.
03:38 <joda_bot> Fortress ?!?!
03:38 <Durka> #lastseen subby
03:39 <armabot> Durka: timed out
03:39 <Durka> lol
03:40 <joda_bot> #lastseen Lucifer
03:40 <armabot> joda_bot: ~|Lucifer|~ has last been seen on ~"XzL.Clan The Server 7 days 0 hours 58 minutes ago.
03:40 <Durka> wrong lucifer
03:40 <Durka> #lastseen Zop
03:40 <armabot> Durka: Zop has last been seen on °¯ps arena 16 minutes ago.
03:40 <joda_bot> #lastseen luzifer
03:40 <armabot> joda_bot: Luzifer has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 5 hours 30 minutes ago.
03:41 <Durka> #lastseen xevi
03:41 <Durka> ^^^ wont work ^^^
03:41 <armabot> Durka: timed out
03:41 <Durka> #lastseen ctxx3v1
03:41 <Vanhayes> man, now there is another lucifer?
03:41 <armabot> Durka: timed out
03:41 <Durka> #lastseen /me pokes van
03:41 <armabot> Durka: timed out
03:42 <Durka> awww
03:42 <Durka> #servers
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03:42 <ghableska> remember PIMP?
03:42 <Durka> #armaservers
03:42 <armabot> Durka: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (14 players) || °¯ps arena (7 players) || The Lobster Cage (5 players) || Stormcrow's Tower (5 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || .dBd|Server (3 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (3 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (3 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (2 players) || Norm's Place (1 more message)
03:43 <Durka> #more
03:43 <armabot> Durka: (2 players) || Gamma Deathmatch Server (2 players) || Wild West - Fortress (1 players) || ed's One Flag Capture the Flag - Testing (0 players) || ^_^A FREE SERVER FOR CLAN - BETA (0 players)
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04:09 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen pimp
04:10 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: BluePimp seems to be on Shrunkland in 2.8.2 right now.
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04:10 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: I considered changing my ingame name to Lucifer_arma to match this, but it didn't fit in the field
04:12  * Lucifer_arma chuckles
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> anybody up for a freeciv game?
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> has to be no timeout, so that when we're waiting for someone to finish a turn I can do homework :)
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04:30 <Durka> bye
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04:54 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, erm
04:54 <spidey> lemme see
04:54 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:54 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (8:54 PM CST on November 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa. 
04:54 <spidey> i have homework to =/
04:55 <spidey> but ok...
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, do homework while we wait to see if anybody else wants to play :)
04:55 <spidey> hm
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> I'm supposed to be doing that, but instead am working on the tech chart :(
04:55 <spidey> i need to find $20
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> did you check your pocket?
04:55 <spidey> i'ma go harrass my great grandma :D:D
04:55 <spidey> i got $5
04:55 <spidey> but i need cigarettes to
04:56 <spidey> i need a pack of blank cd's
04:56 <spidey> so i can burn a ubuntu iso
04:56 <spidey> or raw debian, which ever i decide
04:59 <ghableska> #night
04:59 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
04:59 <spidey> no
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04:59 <spidey> >.>
05:00 <Your_mom_arma> luci feel like finishing up the europe game
05:04 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, hurry up =p
05:04 <spidey> i have to go test tomorrow =/
05:05 <Your_mom_arma> you cant wait 5 minutes for a game that will last more then 1 hour?
05:06 <spidey> the longer we wait = the longer we play
05:06 <Your_mom_arma> so if we wait longer we'll play longer?
05:07 <spidey> ok luke-jr
05:07 <Your_mom_arma> im sorry thats what the math says
05:07 <spidey> ...
05:07 <spidey> can anyone put 2 and 2 together
05:07 <spidey> or has common sense like
05:08 <spidey> totally died
05:08 <Your_mom_arma> "the longer we wait the less i'll be able to play" is what you ment i guess
05:08 <spidey> no
05:09 <Your_mom_arma> well what did you mean?
05:09 <luke-jr_> Legit likes to be a problem
05:10 <Your_mom_arma> luke, could have told you that
05:10 <luke-jr_> he seemed like a decent guy a few months ago
05:10 <Your_mom_arma> luke do you understand what spidey was trying to say?
05:10 <luke-jr_> ?
05:11 <spidey> >.>
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05:11 <Your_mom_arma> "the longer we wait = the longer we play"
05:11 <Your_mom_arma> hey GodTodd
05:11 <GodTodd> hey mom
05:11 <luke-jr_> I just got here
05:11 <luke-jr_> I'll be gone in 5 min or so
05:15 <luke-jr_> g'night
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05:44 <Lucifer_arma> wow, I feel 10 pounds lighter
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, spidey basically said as x increases, so does y
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> so if x is the time we wait, f(x) is the time we play
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> f(x) = x can model it linearly
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> f(x) = kx where k is some constant
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> or, put another way
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> the time we play is directly proportional to the time we wait
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> which winds up with the same formula:
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> P = kW where P is playtime and W is wait time
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> and k is some constant
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, sorry I wasn't here when you guys were ready, but I was taking a huge smelly dump
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6133190.stm
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: Your_mom_arma (prick) 
05:51 <GodTodd> hey Lucifer_arma : you wanna take a look at some broke ass c++ code that will probably give you the shivers but is giving me a fit?
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> no?
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> got a pastebin for it?
05:52 <GodTodd> http://www.toddmacy.com/Macy11.txt
05:53 <GodTodd> trying to dynamically allocate an array of structures with a pointer
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> ummmmmmmmmm
05:54 <Your_mom_arma> ping spidey
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> can you use new to allocate an array?  :)  I thought it was only for classes
05:54 <GodTodd> yeah you can
05:54 <GodTodd> based on the fact that he's taught us new and won't teach us classes
05:54 <GodTodd> heh
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> ok, googling up some syntax, something still feels wrong about that statement
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> what error are you getting where?
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> is it compiling and segfaulting, or is it not compiling?
05:55 <GodTodd> mainly i'm getting.....error C2679: binary '<<' : no operator found which takes a right-hand operand of type 'Student' (or there is no acceptable conversion)
05:56 <GodTodd> at the cout << students << endl; part
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> right, inside the for loops
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> *loop
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> ok, that makes sense.
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> cout doesn't know anything about Student, and that's true, because it doesn't.
05:57 <GodTodd> k
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> Student is a struct with several data types in it that cout knows, but cout doesn't know Student, and it can't tear up a Struct
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05:57 <Lucifer_arma> if this were python, you could make a __str__ method to a class to deal with this specific situation
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> later on, in classes, you'll learn how to return a different type if it's asked for, something about overloading.
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> Here, you need to reference the specific piece of Student that you want to put in the cout statement
05:57 <GodTodd> well...what i'm really trying to do...as fucked as it sounds...is output the value of the pointer to the array of structs
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> cout << students[count]->name << endl;  <--- this should gie you something
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> um, you can't, really.  At least, if there's a way to do it, it's really not worth the trouble
05:59 <GodTodd> well...i can probably do this really easy all inside the main() function....but i was going for sort of modular design
05:59 <GodTodd> heh
06:00 <GodTodd> ok...cout<<students[count]->name<<endl; gave compile errors
06:01 <GodTodd> ok...cout<<students[count].name<<endl; worked
06:01 <GodTodd> ok = but
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> ah, right.  I always have to use a little trial and error for that operator :)
06:01 <GodTodd> i think he wants us to use -> tho......but i may just tell him to piss on it
06:01 <GodTodd> heh
06:02 <Your_mom_arma> whats the program supposed to do?
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> looks like the teacher's going to use it to compute Todd's grade, so he better get it right!
06:02 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:03 <Your_mom_arma> armabot echo 100
06:03 <armabot> 100
06:03 <GodTodd> Your_mom_arma: www.toddmacy.com/program11.txt
06:05 <GodTodd> the messed up thing is...i have to choose between the second semester of c++ or java
06:05 <GodTodd> can't take both for credit
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> what's in the course descriptions?  Take whichever will teach the more advanced concepts
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> that'll do you better than any syntax-oriented class
06:06 <GodTodd> i'm figuring on java
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> because you can pick up java in a few days on your own if you already have a good grasp of concepts
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> but if you don't have those concepts, no amount of syntax is ever going to help you :)
06:06 <GodTodd> true
06:06 <DrJoeTr0n> Your_mom_arma aww you leave right when i come in?
06:07 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
06:07 <DrJoeTr0n> mike said you were in the cage
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> void getStudentData(Student *pupils[], int numPupils)  <--- this feels wrong too
06:08 <Your_mom_arma> yea
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> void getStudentData(Student &pupils, int numPupils)  <-- this feels right
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> er
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> nvm, they're the samet hing
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> getStudentData(&students, numStudents);  <--- make sure this lines up
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> usually when you want the function to take a reference, you put it in the function signature and then for a pointer you pass the pointer name only
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> getStudentData(students, numStudents) would be right
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> in that case
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> the telltale sign of what you should do is whether or not you had to use "->" or "." to reference a piece of the struct
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> now, would you like me to tell you why it's not modular before or after I smoke a cigarette?  :)
06:11 <GodTodd> after is fine :P
06:18 <spidey> o.O
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you ready for it?  :)
06:21 <GodTodd> sure
06:21 <GodTodd> school me ;)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> ok, here goes
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> modular programming is all about breaking a complex puzzle down into little pieces
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> so you take something really complex and break it down into primitives, essentially
06:22 <GodTodd> right
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> then you take those primitives and start putting them together with incrementally more complexity
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> until you've reached the level of complexity that solves the puzzle.  Then you're done and can go home.
06:22 <Your_mom_arma> well tell me when you guys are ready
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> so specifically, you have a function where you pass it a number of students and a reference to something to put it in
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> has your teacher taught you the return statement yet?
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> er, he has, hasn't he?  I think I saw a listing you had that used them...
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> so, for a function, you really want to fallback on the algebraic definition of a function and use it as Occam's Razor to sanity check your functions
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> in the algebraic definition, a function returns 1 and only 1 value for a given input
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> so when you break your complex problem into primitives, each primitive should return 1 and only 1 value for a given input
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the upshot is that you should take the for loop out of getStudentData and make getStudentData get and return (through a return statement) one and only one student
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> put the loop in your main() function instead.
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> In this program, it doesn't matter.  In another program, it might.  You might need to getStudentData from a file, from a terminal, from all sorts of places
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> and you may not know before you call getStudentData how many students you need to get.  In the design you have here, you have to know that,
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> but out in the real world, you have no guarantees.
06:26 <GodTodd> yeah...we're supposed to dynamically allocate the thing
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, he's not trying to teach modular with this program.  :)  He's teaching pointers and stuff.
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> the way you'd do it if you did it my way is a bit more complicated and well beyond the reach of this program, but maybe he'd give you extra credit if you could pull it off
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> you'd create the one pointer that's an array
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> then you'd poll for students and use a blank line or some other string to indicate you're done,
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> and for each iteration of the loop, you'd resize the array you allocated in the beginning to fit the new record
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> resizing a dynamically allocated structure is a bit tricky, however, and probably well beyond the scope of the lesson you're supposed to learn here
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't suggest changing what you're doing, I'd suggest getting it done and getting an A and moving on.  But it's something to keep in mind, what does the problem look like in the real world and how would you approach it with what you know now?
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> What would you need to learn that you don't know, if you don't know enough now to approach it?
06:30 <GodTodd> that's kind of how i was approaching it
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> in the end, the answers to those questions are a litmus test to distinguish between a programmer and a codemonkey
06:30 <GodTodd> i was trying to figure how i'd do it if a client wanted it in an app
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, based on what I"m seeing right now, you probably don't have enough to solve it in the real world, at least where the class is supposed to be.
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> Maybe you personally do, I don't know, but the class is evidently not far enough to do it.  :)
06:31 <GodTodd> right
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: Your_mom_arma (prick) 
06:32 <spidey> why you keep calling mom a prick?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> becuase, spidey (prick) , my irc client does that automatically
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> I could be talking to Your_mom_arma (prick) , spidey (prick) , GodTodd (prick) , or even Lucifer_arma (prick) , and I'd call all of them pricks
06:33 <spidey> why you keep calling us pricks
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to change it, as entertaining as it has been.  :)
06:33 <spidey> what'd we ever do to you!
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I was just fooling with tab-completion, that's all.  :)
06:35 <spidey> sure you where!
06:35 <spidey> you ment it, from the bottom of your blackish soul!
06:36 <Your_mom_arma> pong
06:37 <spidey> ping
06:38 <Vanhayes> spidey (ass)
06:38 <spidey> Vanhayes(poppy wearing fag)
06:38 <spidey> =p
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, let's face it, most of the people around here are in fact pricks
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> so, anybody want to run the Japan map with a sub for luke-jr_, since he wants to wuss out on it?
06:38 <Vanhayes> sign of respect for our vets, you commie
06:39 <Vanhayes> Yes
06:39 <Vanhayes> oh yes
06:39 <GodTodd> ok...i'm gonna do it the cop out way for class...but after that i'm going to mess with it :/
06:39 <GodTodd> thanks for the help tho :)
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> want to take over for luke in Japan first?  :)
06:39 <GodTodd> i suppose i could
06:39 <GodTodd> heh
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> how many players do we need for that, and who wants to play right now?
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> we had 5 humans originally, right?
06:40 <Vanhayes> Id be up for it, no school till tuesday
06:40 <Vanhayes> 4 or 5 ya
06:40  * GodTodd knew to wait for Lucifer_arma for help with c++ because one more 'RTFM' from luke and i swear i would bomb fuckin' missouri
06:41 <Your_mom_arma> i'll play 
06:41 <Vanhayes> Oh no, not missuri :)
06:41 <Your_mom_arma> haha GodTodd
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> we need a us map so we can actually bomb missouri
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> you know the capital would be TOkyo
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> lemme start up the japan map so we can go see what's on it :)
06:42 <Vanhayes> spidey (ass)
06:42 <GodTodd> maybe we can pool our money and give luke a one way ticket to japan...
06:42 <spidey> $598 for a opteron dual core
06:42 <spidey> O.O
06:43 <GodTodd> save it for the ticket, man ;)
06:43 <Vanhayes> ha
06:43 <spidey> fuck that
06:43 <spidey> send him to canada, it's cheaper
06:43 <GodTodd> haha
06:43 <Vanhayes> I dont want him
06:43 <GodTodd> let hayes deal with him?
06:43 <GodTodd> ;)
06:43 <spidey> ya
06:43 <Vanhayes> and he would be able to get back easily
06:43 <Your_mom_arma> send him to quebec
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> er, it's not starting up, heh heh
06:43 <GodTodd> not after we build the wall
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> hang on, it's a path thing
06:44 <GodTodd> keep them damn canadians out
06:44 <spidey> i like how they call a 20gb internal seagate hdd (IDE to ) for $179 a bargain
06:44 <spidey> like
06:44 <spidey> wtf
06:44 <Your_mom_arma> true we need to find a way to keep out all the canadian immagrents
06:44 <Vanhayes> man, if they build a wall I'd .... well I dont know what id do but it be something
06:45 <GodTodd> heh
06:45 <GodTodd> 20GB for 179?
06:45 <GodTodd> that's highway robbery
06:45 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, no, because then where will all of our criminals go if there's no border between us and canada
06:45 <spidey> oh
06:45 <spidey> it's a tape drive
06:45 <spidey> nvm
06:45 <GodTodd> heh
06:45 <GodTodd> small detail :P
06:45 <spidey> internal ide tape drive
06:45 <Vanhayes> Id probly think of 1000s of ways the money that went into it could have been used
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> er, this could be broken
06:46  * GodTodd didn't touch the code :P
06:46 <GodTodd> heh
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> try to connect and see what it looks like, I may need to uninstall the warserver and reinstall the original game
06:46 <spidey> good job lucifer
06:46 <Vanhayes> #last --with dave
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> the savegame is fine, it's just that I installed the warserver
06:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 11446 messages.
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> www.davefancella.com
06:46 <Vanhayes> thx
06:46 <GodTodd> :5555?
06:47 <Vanhayes> couldnt connect
06:47 <spidey> same
06:47 <spidey> luci you broke it!
06:47 <spidey> i'm tellin
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> couldn't?
06:47 <spidey> nope
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, lemme check my firewall.  I changed linuxes recently...
06:48 <spidey> it said you didn't respond properly
06:48 <Vanhayes> it said your machine actively refused it for me
06:49 <Vanhayes> #google fight Freeciv Armagetron
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> try again
06:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
06:49 <Vanhayes> works
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like we only need 1 player to play, if we can get spidey to not play an ai
06:52 <spidey> ....
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?  You gonna come take luke for us?  :)
06:54 <GodTodd> hmmmmm
06:54  * GodTodd thinks.
06:55  * GodTodd thinks more.
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> you don't have to stay long :)
06:55  * GodTodd thinks even more.
06:55 <GodTodd> heh
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. if you only want to play for an hour, play for an hour, and then we'll ai you or something
06:55 <GodTodd> yeah i'm coming for a bit
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
07:02 <spidey> ya?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, you took the spanish?
07:04 <spidey> i took the mort dude
07:04 <spidey> whoever he is
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> he's the spanish
07:04 <spidey> it's either spanish or portuguese
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> can you not see the chat in the server?
07:04 <spidey> what about it?
07:05 <spidey> i'm looking at stuff and playing
07:05 <spidey> plus doing homework
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> you need to take the portuguese instead and we'll put the spanish back on ai
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> the spanish are the big bad enemy we're playing this map to fight :)
07:05 <spidey> 2 cities?
07:05 <spidey> bah
07:06 <Your_mom_arma> you can take nic and i'll take the other guy
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07:13 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: err, did you reset fc1tpd?
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07:17 <GodTodd> wrtlprnft: the timer? yeah he said a switch got unplugged
07:22 <Vanhayes> probly cheating again
07:26 <GodTodd> blergle
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07:44 <Lucifer_arma> ok try joining again
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> hello?
07:46 <spidey> ?
07:46 <GodTodd> couldn't
07:47 <GodTodd> actively refused
07:47 <Vanhayes> same
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> er, hang on a sec :)
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's because I restarted the game with the warserver and it ran originally on the regular server
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> let me just reinstall the regular server real quick and restart from the stopping point
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07:48 <Your_mom_arma> barf
07:48 <Vanhayes> #barf
07:48 <Vanhayes> aw, I liked that one
07:48 <Your_mom_arma> i cant rejoin the civ game
07:48 <GodTodd> not yet
07:48 <Vanhayes> its on hold, till luci fixes it
07:48 <Your_mom_arma> what happened?
07:49 <Vanhayes> the tschs thing
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's because I restarted the game with the warserver and it ran originally on the regular server
07:49 <Vanhayes> techs*
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> let me just reinstall the regular server real quick and restart from the stopping point
07:49 <Vanhayes> #google slowcoaster
07:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.21 seconds: House of Rock - Slowcoaster: <http://www.houseofrock.ca/slowcoaster.php>; House of Rock - News: <http://www.houseofrock.ca/>; New Music Canada Artist: SLOWCOASTER: <http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=11024>; Slowcoaster Home: <http://www.maplemusic.com/artists/slw/default.asp>; www.myspace.com/ slowcoaster: (2 more messages)
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> ok, rejoin and let's see if we can trade techs
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> the game might be over if we can't :(
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: Your_mom_arma (hi there!) spidey (hi there!) GodTodd (hi there!) 
07:57 <Vanhayes> so are we going to finish it?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, I don't know
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not inclined to play it without tech trading, but I've no idea why it's broke
07:58 <Vanhayes> well it looks like Your_mom_arma and GodTodd are gone too
07:58 <GodTodd> i'm here
07:59 <Vanhayes> my mistake
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> want to start a new game or restore a different one?  I think the only current game I have besides the japan game is the one me spidey and mom are playing in europe
07:59 <spidey> hm
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> I'm disappointed about the japan game :(
08:00 <spidey> luke runs his server on hachi right? if he wouldn't get mad i might be able to grab a save of his 
08:00 <spidey> o.O
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'd rather start a new game than play one of luke's saves right now :/
08:00 <spidey> haha
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> I tell ya, the game is easier when you start with 0 techs
08:01 <GodTodd> yep
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> because you hae nothing to build for a long time, so you build your defenses, and then you're safer
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> barbs don't fuck you over, the ai can't walk all over you, etc.
08:01 <GodTodd> lukes games always start out with far too many
08:01 <spidey> actually
08:01 <spidey> barbs never really bother me
08:01 <spidey> that last game, you said heavy barbs, so i set appearence to 4
08:01 <spidey> they still didnt bother me
08:01 <spidey> o.O
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> the took out two of my cities
08:02 <spidey> lol
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> I thought the barbs in that game were a lot of fun, though.  I'd rather set the onset year a bit later, but they were definitely fun
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> so, start a new game?
08:02 <Vanhayes> they took most of swedans cities
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: you interested?
08:02 <Vanhayes> ya, but ill probly leave at some point
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> that's fine.  :)  lemme start up the server
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> or
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> do you guys want to play a map, or generate one?
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> that kind of matters
08:03 <spidey> world map?
08:03 <spidey> :D
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> can't start the server without knowing it :)
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> only if nobody takes australia :)
08:03 <Your_mom_arma> im not gone
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> 'cause if we play the world map, we're maxing out ais
08:04 <Vanhayes> world sounds good
08:04 <spidey> maxing out AI's?
08:04 <spidey> are you crazy?
08:04 <spidey> 7 at most
08:04 <Vanhayes> not 30
08:04 <Vanhayes> max for the maps
08:04 <Vanhayes> map*
08:04 <Vanhayes> isnt it like 10 or so?
08:04 <spidey> that's still alot
08:04 <spidey> more
08:04 <spidey> you got
08:04 <spidey> aussie
08:04 <spidey> NA
08:05 <spidey> those native-american tribes
08:05 <Vanhayes> there is about 3 on the americas
08:05 <Vanhayes> US american and aztec
08:05 <Vanhayes> er
08:05 <spidey> canada
08:05 <spidey> south america
08:05 <Vanhayes> Us Canadian and aztec
08:05 <spidey> aztec
08:06 <spidey> there's a south america to
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> just curious, see if you can connect real quick
08:06 <Vanhayes> thats aztec
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> there's inca on the one i modified
08:06 <Vanhayes> oh ya
08:07 <Vanhayes> so world map?
08:07 <Vanhayes> #more
08:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: <http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=63366112>; Internet Archive: Details: Slowcoaster Live at Main Stage ...: <http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=27315&from=browsePopular>; slowcoaster tabs @ Guitar Tab Universe: <http://www.guitartabs.cc/tabsearch.php?artist=slowcoaster&exact=on>; Slowcoaster Where Are They Going CD: (1 more message)
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> some shits weird
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> ok, connect now, and no more of this, let's get the game started :)
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you want to play?
08:10 <GodTodd> i can for a tiny bit
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09:09 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: ?
09:09 <spidey> hayes?
09:09 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: ?
09:18 <spidey> ....
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, his connection dropped
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09:18 <Lucifer_arma> I tried to ping him and didn't get an answer
09:18 <spidey> heh
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10:31 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
10:31 <armabot> pong
10:31 <Your_mom_arma> well i didnt lose connection
10:31 <Your_mom_arma> did civ freeze?
10:32 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
10:32 <armabot> pong
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11:01 <madmax|pt> greets
11:14 <Your_mom_arma> hi
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11:41 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
11:41 <armabot> pong
11:41 <Lucifer_arma> ponge
11:42 <Your_mom_arma> set me up as a bot , it crashed and im going to sleep
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15:58 <Ady> Are the forums offline?
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16:19 <BreezyBadger> hey
16:19 <BreezyBadger> everyone do a custom connect to leera.dynalias.com default port
16:19 <BreezyBadger> really high speeds
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17:02 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, it's up as of last night
17:02 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, we started w/ 0 techs last time...
17:02 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, it's crappy cuz barbs get techs before you do
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18:23 <Arma18> hmm
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18:34 <luke-jr_work> hmm
18:35 <wrtlprnft> hmm indeed
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19:56 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, PM
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20:28 <spidey> i can't believe it
20:28 <spidey> i made a 100 on a english  test!!
20:28 <spidey> :D:D:D
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20:29  * wrtlprnft_ just got his math test back, 14 points (out of 15)
20:29 <spidey> :p
20:30 <spidey> i have to do pre-algebra =/
20:30 <wrtlprnft_> wrtlprnft: who are you, stupid?
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20:30 <wrtlprnft_> ah
20:30 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
20:30 <spidey> like...easy but i don't see why they give these huge books, when you learned the things in 7th grade
20:32 <wrtlprnft> i bet luke-jr_work would like the german grading system for Kollegstufe
20:33 <wrtlprnft> goes from 0–15 or 0x0–0xF :D
20:33 <spidey> hmmmm
20:33 <spidey> i know i choose utf8
20:33 <spidey> but i still see ascii
20:33 <spidey> =/
20:33 <wrtlprnft> öäü …←↓→↑
20:33 <spidey> :/
20:34 <wrtlprnft> http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/#widget1
20:34 <wrtlprnft> ok, this spec sucks!
20:34 <wrtlprnft> a) it's “directory”, “folder” is a windows term
20:34 <wrtlprnft> b) DON'T use proprietary software for screenshots in specs!
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20:42 <spidey> c) widget sucks
20:43 <wrtlprnft> 1
20:44 <wrtlprnft> useless for me, at least
20:44 <wrtlprnft> half the widgets i tried didn't work properly on my system
20:44 <spidey> wrtlprnft, i'm confused
20:45 <spidey> i don't understand why my server doesn't show on the master list
20:45 <wrtlprnft> me neither :s
20:45 <wrtlprnft> still not confirmed
20:45 <spidey> but it shows on lan
20:45 <spidey> =/
20:46 <wrtlprnft> spidey: lan doesn't use a master server, it just sends a broadcast
20:46 <spidey> hm
20:47 <Vanhayes> what server?
20:47 <spidey> mine...
20:47 <Vanhayes> thx, that helped
20:47 <spidey> one i wanna host local for a few days
20:47 <spidey> it's not on the master list
20:47 <spidey> so it doesn't matter =p
20:48 <spidey> i got a idea
20:48 <spidey> i'ma try to host from this box
20:48 <spidey> brb
20:48 <Vanhayes> spidey: how did that freeciv game go last night?
20:48 <spidey> well
20:48 <spidey> i pwned you and todd
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20:49 <spidey> i now have over 80 cannons
20:49 <spidey> and 77 riflemen
20:49 <spidey> 299+ gold profit each turn
20:49 <spidey> currently smashing the aussies
20:49 <spidey> =p
20:50 <Vanhayes> ya, my connection cut out for a while, I waited about 10 minutes to see if it would connect then I went to bed
20:50 <spidey> heh
20:51 <Vanhayes> anyways, next game we should make shure we can trade techs
20:52 <spidey> wrtlprnft, 
20:52 <spidey> did it work that time?
20:52 <spidey> oh wait
20:52 <spidey> forgot to port forward
20:53 <spidey> wrtlprnft, how bout now?
20:54 <wrtlprnft> U.S.Fortress~default~ (0/16,
20:54 <wrtlprnft> yep, is
20:54 <spidey> um
20:54 <spidey> you shouldn't see that
20:54 <spidey> at all
20:54 <spidey> ~spidey~test~server
20:54 <spidey> i closed that one down awhile ago
20:54 <spidey> wrtlprnft, wait, do i have to respond to pings?
20:54 <spidey> cause i got icmp disabled >.>
20:55 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't matter
20:55 <wrtlprnft> bf never did
20:55 <spidey> hm
20:55 <spidey> i don't see how that one worked
20:55 <spidey> because i didn't restart  it after you said it didn't work
20:55 <spidey> i just shut it down, then changed the port forward destination
20:55 <spidey> o.O
20:56 <wrtlprnft> ~spidey~test~server (0/16,
20:56 <spidey> i don't see it =(
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20:57 <luke-jr_work> blame your router
20:57 <spidey> never had a problem before
20:57 <luke-jr_work> spidey, btw, ICMP being disabled should cause lots of problems
20:58 <wrtlprnft> there'
20:58 <wrtlprnft> s no reason to do it, anyways
20:58 <spidey> well
20:58 <luke-jr_work> for example, if ICMP is disabled, ISPs may freely give your IP to someone else
20:58 <wrtlprnft> does spidey fear evil hackers?
20:59 <luke-jr_work> since if you don't answer a ping, that IP is unused
20:59 <spidey> no
20:59 <spidey> lol
20:59 <spidey> luke-jr_work, no
20:59 <luke-jr_work> yes
21:00 <luke-jr_work> an IP must always answer a ping if it is in use
21:00 <luke-jr_work> if there is no ping reply, then it can be assumed available and given to anyone
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22:03 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: civ server down again?
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22:04 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd, shouldn't be
22:04 <GodTodd> it's not responding
22:04 <luke-jr_work> grr
22:04 <luke-jr_work> erm
22:05 <luke-jr_work> it is for me
22:05 <GodTodd> nm...now it is
22:05 <luke-jr_work> I see you there too
22:05 <GodTodd> it didn't the first 3 times
22:05 <luke-jr_work> hm
22:05 <luke-jr_work> buggy OpenWrt maybe
22:06 <luke-jr_work> FYI, I'm in the middle of moving
22:06 <luke-jr_work> so there will definately be *some* downtime
22:06 <luke-jr_work> I'll save first tho ;p
22:11 <GodTodd> doing like i normally do and leaving most of the computer stuff till last? ;)
22:12 <luke-jr_work> well, time warner expects me to wait 3 days before they can send someone out to unlock the box and plug in the wire
22:12 <luke-jr_work> ...
22:12 <luke-jr_work> so unless you know how to pick a lock or smth
22:12 <luke-jr_work> also, we haven't decided for sure if we're moving yet
22:12 <luke-jr_work> just moving minimal to live there for a few days and see if it's ok
22:13 <GodTodd> i'm thinking of ditching time warner myself
22:14 <luke-jr_work> for what?
22:14 <GodTodd> verizon fios
22:14 <luke-jr_work> o
22:14 <luke-jr_work> you know that's a one-way street?
22:14 <luke-jr_work> hmm
22:14 <luke-jr_work> maybe I should call and threaten to switch to DSL
22:14 <luke-jr_work> lol
22:14 <GodTodd> dsl sucks
22:15 <luke-jr_work> and it's unavailable
22:15 <luke-jr_work> but it's a threat
22:15 <GodTodd> heh...i didn't even sign up with time warner
22:15 <luke-jr_work> ?
22:15 <GodTodd> they got me in a deal with comcast
22:16 <luke-jr_work> o
22:16 <GodTodd> my inlaws have vzn fios and have had much better uptime than their old cable connection
22:17 <luke-jr_work> you know that's a one-way street tho?
22:18 <luke-jr_work> you can't convert back to regular cable
22:18 <luke-jr_work> or so I hear anyway
22:18 <GodTodd> why can't you?
22:19 <GodTodd> they take all the coax out of your walls?
22:19 <luke-jr_work> dunno
22:20 <GodTodd> well...you talk like you know all the intricacies of the changeover so i was just wondering what the process was then ;)
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22:48 <spidey> wrtlprnft, i figured out what it is
22:48 <spidey> i think the network part of that install is fucked up
22:48 <spidey> soldat doesn't work right either
22:48 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:49 <spidey> it's a barebone install
22:49 <spidey> only uses like 700mb
22:49 <spidey> only a 4gig drive...if i used the normal install i'd only have like 2 gigs of free space
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22:53 <ghableska> hello
22:53 <ghableska> #weather 50265
22:53 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (2:54 PM CST on November 10, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa. 
22:54  * spidey drop kicks ghableska into oblivion
22:54 <spidey> #Weather 38256
22:54 <ghableska> hi spidey :P
22:54 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 75.6°F (3:29 PM CST on November 10, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). 
22:54 <ghableska> we got snow today :)
22:54 <spidey> nice day
22:54 <spidey> =)
22:55 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
22:55 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 64.6°F (3:55 PM CST on November 10, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa. 
22:55 <GodTodd> snow sucks
22:56 <ghableska> heh
23:04 <GodTodd> then again my last experience with it was 36 inches in 3 weeks
23:04 <GodTodd> heh
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23:04 <ghableska> in Nebraska?
23:06 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:06 <GodTodd> yeah
23:06 <ghableska> heh
23:06 <madmax|pt> #weather lppt
23:06 <armabot> madmax|pt: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 66.2°F (8:00 PM WET on November 10, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa. 
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23:22 <Vanhayes> #weather saint John
23:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - A few clouds. Wind northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40 becoming light overnight. Low plus 1.; Saturday - Sunny. Becoming cloudy in the afternoon. High 8. Saturday night..cloudy. 40 percent chance of showers overnight. Low 6.; Sunday - Cloudy (1 more message)
23:24 <luke-jr_work> #weather
23:24 <armabot> luke-jr_work: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
23:24 <luke-jr_work> #weather kansas city
23:24 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The current temperature in Kansas City, KS is 43.0°F. Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Wind: N at 19 mph (31 km/h).
23:24 <luke-jr_work> wtf would it choose ks
23:24 <luke-jr_work> #weather 64150
23:24 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The current temperature in Kansas City, Missouri is 42.8°F (3:54 PM CST on November 10, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa. 
23:25 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
23:25 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 33.0°F. Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Wind: N at 17 mph (27 km/h).
23:25 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:25 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (4:08 PM CST on November 10, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa. 
23:25 <luke-jr_work> Kansas City is mostly in Missouri
23:35 <GodTodd> it's alphabetical iirc
23:35 <GodTodd> k is before m
23:36 <luke-jr_work> o
23:37 <Vanhayes> o is after m
23:39 <GodTodd> p is after drink
23:40 <Vanhayes> ha
23:41 <GodTodd> ;)
23:41 <luke-jr_work> q
23:44 <Vanhayes> #q
23:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #5: "first the spoon, then the ladle, then the bowl, then the bowl, then the makefiles have a Ni! -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:41 AM, March 27, 2006)
23:45 <GodTodd> #q
23:45 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #13: "<hang3r> How many microbuscity's does it take to change a light bulb?" (added by hang3r at 07:41 AM, March 31, 2006)
23:45 <GodTodd> #q
23:45 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #27: "thats like asking if vegetarians can eat animal crackers -- DrJoeTron" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:12 AM, October 26, 2006)
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23:48 <Vanhayes> #q
23:48 <Vanhayes> #ping
23:49 <GodTodd> i broke armabot?
23:49 <GodTodd> heh
23:49 <Vanhayes> what did she ever do to you?
23:49 <Vanhayes> #pong
23:49 <Vanhayes> #ping
23:49 <Vanhayes> #pong
23:49 <GodTodd> the sex wasn't that good
23:49 <Vanhayes> ha
23:50 <Vanhayes> you should have got a refund then
23:50 <GodTodd> #q
23:50 <GodTodd> #q
23:50 <GodTodd> #q
23:50 <GodTodd> #q
23:50 <GodTodd> heh
23:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
23:50 <armabot> pong
23:50 <armabot> ping
23:50 <armabot> pong
23:50 <armabot> ping
23:50 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
23:50 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
23:50 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:38 AM, October 28, 2006)
23:50 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
23:51 <GodTodd> ahhh she were laggin'
23:51 <Vanhayes> argh, the lagg
23:52 <GodTodd> #q
23:52 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
23:52 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:52 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 63.7°F (4:52 PM CST on November 10, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa. 
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23:52 <GodTodd> gonna be cold tonight methinks
23:55 <luke-jr_work> wtf @ quote 19
23:56 <luke-jr_work> #later tell Lucifer_arma [q 19]
23:56 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The operation succeeded.
23:56 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:56 <luke-jr_work> #later tell luke-jr_  [q 19]
23:56 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The operation succeeded.
23:56 <luke-jr_work> #later tell luke-jr_work   [q 19]
23:56 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The operation succeeded.
23:56 <luke-jr_work> hm
23:57 <luke-jr_work> doesn't work
23:57 <luke-jr_work> #help q
23:57 <armabot> luke-jr_work: (q <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "quote random".
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23:57 <luke-jr_work> #quote 19
23:57 <Vanhayes> #quote get 19
23:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
23:57 <Vanhayes> #quote get 33
23:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey" (added by spidey at 04:07 AM, November 07, 2006)
23:57 <luke-jr_work> =p
23:57 <Vanhayes> #quote get 3how is that  quote worthy?
23:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: '3how' is not a valid id.
23:57 <madmax|pt> #q
23:57 <Vanhayes> er
23:57 <armabot> madmax|pt: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
23:57 <Vanhayes> #quote get 34
23:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #34 in my database for #armagetron.
23:58 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
23:58 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
23:58 <Vanhayes> ha
23:58 <luke-jr_work> #quote get 393
23:58 <armabot> luke-jr_work: Error: There is no Quote with id #393 in my database for #armagetron.
23:58 <luke-jr_work> lame
23:58 <madmax|pt> #time
23:58 <armabot> madmax|pt: 11:57 PM, November 10, 2006
23:58 <Vanhayes> your lame. armabot rocks
23:58 <luke-jr_work> #quote add
23:58 <armabot> luke-jr_work: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:59 <luke-jr_work> #later tell madmax|pt [time]
23:59 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The operation succeeded.
23:59 <madmax|pt> bang
23:59 <luke-jr_work> someone plz do that to me ;p
23:59 <luke-jr_work> #later tell luke-jr_ [time]
23:59 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The operation succeeded.
23:59 <luke-jr_work> except w/ my work name

Log from 2006-11-11:
--- Day changed Sat Nov 11 2006
00:00 <GodTodd> how much you paying?
00:00 <luke-jr_work> $-5
00:00 <madmax|pt> only if you give me a nice, lag-stoppingcycles-free-server
00:00 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:00 <GodTodd> make it --5 dollars and i might consider it
00:00 <luke-jr_work> how about ---5
00:00 <GodTodd> nah
00:01 <Vanhayes> how about you give me $20 a month to take a server?
00:01 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:01 <Vanhayes> good deal
00:01 <madmax|pt> :D
00:02 <Vanhayes> im willing to nagotiate that too, but I wont take lower than $5
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: if barbs are getting techs before you, you're doing something wrong
00:02 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, pfft
00:02 <luke-jr_work> I blame the Swedes
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> of course, the reason I like barb onset year at 0AD or higher is to give time to build defenses
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> so we can expand without dealing without barbs.  It's my own way of wussing out.
00:02 <luke-jr_work> =p
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, in the game we were playing last night, spidey and I are warring against ais that are arguably more advanced, and winning
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> the only dangerous one on the map now is the ai that took over for mom.  It's got MI and howitzers and I'm still using cannons,
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> so I'd like to stall that fight as long as I can
00:03 <luke-jr_work> you're not allied?
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> and I have to say, even if mom comes back to take it, we're going to fight.  That civ is too powerful.
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> something's screwy on my server, we can't trade techs.
00:04 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:04 <luke-jr_work> warserver doesn't let you, I think
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, it is the warserver.  :)
00:04 <luke-jr_work> played on one once before
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> there's a setting, I'm just going to have to make sure the scenarios have techtrading and the others set
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> but I've decided that egypt is in a better spot than zulu on the world map, the ai just didn't know what to do with what he had
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> the cities I'm taking are quickly becoming high production cities because the ai was so good as to populate them for me
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> I just have to stick in a factory and let my autosettlers railroad them up for me and they reach 20 shields quickly
00:06 <Vanhayes> hmm, are the aztecs still around or are they wiped out?
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> I think spidey wiped them out.
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> america, the incas, I think spidey's taken all of that
00:06 -!- Commn is now known as Compn
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> you could come in and take australia, I suppose, but spidey's fighting them and after consolidating my takes I'm going into europe
00:07 <luke-jr_work> I'll play the next new game
00:07 <luke-jr_work> well
00:07 <luke-jr_work> actually....
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, don't know when it'll be, unless you start one, I"m about to head out and take a test
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> then I've got both physics and calc tests next week
00:07 <luke-jr_work> I told my wife that last game I hosted would be the last one I did all at once
00:08 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma, at least Mon before I have any time
00:08 -!- Ady [n=ady@79.Red-83-51-204.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #armagetron
00:08 <luke-jr_work> anyone interested in a try-to-make-30-mins-per-day one?
00:09 <Ady> hi, whats wrong with the forums?
00:09 <luke-jr_work> nothing?
00:09 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:09 <Ady> doesnt open since yesterday
00:09 <luke-jr_work> sure it does
00:09 <Ady> come here and i will show you :P
00:09 <luke-jr_work> no
00:09 <luke-jr_work> you use a broken OS
00:09 <Ady> like xp sp2?
00:10 <luke-jr_work> yep
00:10 <Vanhayes> works for me todat
00:10 <luke-jr_work> just like that
00:10 <Vanhayes> today*
00:10 <Ady> just like internet explorer 7?
00:10 <luke-jr_work> yep
00:10 <luke-jr_work> IE7 isn't a web browser
00:10 <Ady> mozilla doesnt open it 
00:11 <Vanhayes> opera does
00:11 <Ady> my sand thingy its almost end
00:11 <luke-jr_work> Konq does
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> firefox opens it for me, and by luke's standards I use a broken os too
00:13 <Ady> i think its the "spy website" blocker...
00:13 <Vanhayes> er, im using xp sp2 too so...
00:13 <Ady> and that thing happens often to me with the forums
00:14 <madmax|pt> is mac os a broken os too? if so, and using its native web browser, it opens too :P
00:15 <Ady> do someone run windows?
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, anything not gentoo-built-by-luke is broken, so yes, mac os is broken too
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> Ady: lots of people run windows :)
00:15 <Ady> nice to know :)
00:16 <Ady> this weekend i will publish that project i was talking about
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> with source?
00:16 <Ady> i will release source if it wil get popular
00:16 <spidey> hayes
00:16 <spidey> inca's still alive
00:16 <spidey> if you want them
00:17 <Ady> #uberinsult
00:17 <armabot> You are a spidey
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> tell me about it when you release source, and remember, you got armagetron with source...
00:17 <spidey> i was about to march a huge ass land invasion for after them
00:17 <spidey> but if you wanna play take 'em
00:17 <madmax|pt> btw, is any XP user in here thinking of using Vista?
00:17 <spidey> fuck no
00:17 <madmax|pt> I mean, buying a new computer and *then* using Vista...
00:17 <spidey> fuck
00:17 <Ady> no
00:17 <spidey> no
00:17 <Ady> lol
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> word on the street is that Vista won't run arma, so no, nobody here will use it
00:18 <spidey> vista is all good n shit
00:18 <madmax|pt> good
00:18 <spidey> but what it requires
00:18 <spidey> ...
00:18 <spidey> man lets say you spend
00:18 <Vanhayes> Hey, who changed my uberinsult?
00:18 <spidey> $500 on a box
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> #uberinsult
00:18 <armabot> You are a spidey
00:18 <spidey> and it's more of a gaming box right, vista will use all the resources
00:18 <Vanhayes> um thinking it was luke-jr_ 
00:18 <Vanhayes> Im*
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> #alias add uberinsult You're not even the slime in luke-jr_'s buttcrack.
00:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> #uberinsult
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> er
00:19 <Vanhayes> echo*
00:19 <spidey> lol
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> #alias add uberinsult "echo You're not even the slime in luke-jr_'s buttcrack."
00:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> #uberinsult
00:19 <armabot> You're not even the slime in luke-jr_'s buttcrack.
00:19 <spidey> #g
00:19 <armabot> spidey: (google calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>.
00:19 <spidey> #q
00:19 <armabot> spidey: Quote #6: "luci what exactly did you use robots for pleasure -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:52 AM, March 27, 2006)
00:19 <spidey> #q
00:19 <armabot> spidey: Quote #14: "On a full moon, Christopher Walken transform in a wereworm. Not as dangerous as a werewolf, but twice as cunning. - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 07:58 PM, April 25, 2006)
00:19 <spidey> #quote get 37
00:19 <armabot> spidey: Error: There is no Quote with id #37 in my database for #armagetron.
00:19 <spidey> #quote get 36
00:19 <armabot> spidey: Error: There is no Quote with id #36 in my database for #armagetron.
00:19 <spidey> #quote get 34
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> Christopher Walken is running for president
00:19 <armabot> spidey: Error: There is no Quote with id #34 in my database for #armagetron.
00:19 <spidey> #quote get 333
00:19 <armabot> spidey: Error: There is no Quote with id #333 in my database for #armagetron.
00:20 <spidey> #quote get 33
00:20 <armabot> spidey: Quote #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey" (added by spidey at 04:07 AM, November 07, 2006)
00:20 <spidey> :D
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> man, it was taking 6-10 cannons per city last night
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> I *hate* city walls
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> and everytime I sent spies to take out the city walls, they got caught
00:20 <spidey> well
00:20 <spidey> you know how many cannons
00:20 <spidey> i've lost?
00:20 <spidey> and how many i got =p
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> hundreds?
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> 10?
00:20 <Ady> war in USA?
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> I was in Africa
00:21 <spidey> i've lost atleast 70
00:21 <spidey> i have like 86
00:21 <spidey> i'm putting out 3cannons every turn
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> but I think the canadians did indeed conquer the US
00:21 <spidey> rotating
00:21 <Vanhayes> spidey: how are the incas right now?
00:21 <spidey> i did
00:21 <spidey> =p
00:21 <spidey> good
00:21 <spidey> i haven't touched them *yet*
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm putting out somewhere around 4-5 every turn, so I kept advancing nicely, obviously, it was just annoying
00:21 <spidey> i wantt aussie as a naval base
00:21 <spidey> =)
00:21 <Vanhayes> if we play agin ill take them
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> and the whole time I'm being stalked by an ai with howitzers and MI
00:22 <spidey> lol
00:22 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
00:22 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't even got artillery!
00:22 <spidey> lets ally
00:22 <spidey> and
00:22 <spidey> click on my city
00:22 <spidey> quebec
00:22 <spidey> look at all the units i got inside there
00:22 <spidey> =)
00:22 <spidey> atleast 60
00:22 <Lucifer_arma> you trying to make sure I know which city to nuke?  ;)
00:22 <spidey> :|
00:22 <spidey> once i take aussie i'll be the strongest nation 
00:22 <spidey> :D
00:23 <spidey> and biggest
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, I need to spend some time consolidating.  I did take heavier losses than expected, so I called up reserves I prefer not to call up.
00:23 <spidey> i told you
00:23 <spidey> send me 1-2 transports and i'll put alot of riflemen in your cities for ya
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> er, no :)
00:23 <spidey> lol
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> I'll pay for my own defenses, tvm
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> tyvm*
00:24 <spidey> ok
00:24 <spidey> also
00:24 <spidey> i'm putting out 299+ gold a turn
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> besides, I'm close to mobile warfare, I just passed it up temporarily so I wouldn't have to rebuild barracks
00:24 <spidey> 'er
00:24 <spidey> i'ma have to rebuild 22 of those
00:24 <spidey> :|
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> I'm 2 techs from mobile warfare, but I'm picking up flight and some other stuff first
00:24 <spidey> flight?
00:24 <spidey> i got that
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to start sending spies to mom and see what I can steal, too
00:25 <spidey> i was thikning about taking mom out to
00:25 <spidey> unless he's gonna play
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> as soon as I'm close enough to him, anyway, there's still some egyptian and indian cities between us
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, even if he does play...  actually, if it's just 3 humans, I don't mind coming in third, especially with all the ais that are there
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> but I won't come in fourth, and mom's the biggest target
00:26 <spidey> lol
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> but man, I'm definitely enjoying having so goddamn many ais
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> and they're not totally dumb either
00:26 <spidey> indeed
00:26 <spidey> because
00:26 <spidey> they're not novice
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> I think they're all normal, actually
00:26 <spidey> the inca guy stopped attacking me
00:26 <spidey> because he lost so many units
00:26 <spidey> that's actually smart
00:26 <spidey> a novice ai would have kept pressing
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> cheops never attacked me, he never even saw it coming, apparently
00:27 <Ady> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=984
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> of course, he was tapped out fighting the indians
00:27 <Ady> :P
00:27 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-36-184-103.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has quit [">-;;,ccc3"]
00:27 <spidey> well
00:27 <spidey> i might not be here
00:27 <spidey> for a week
00:27 <spidey> going to LA
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, I need to quit chatting and go take my test
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> this is going to be a busy week for me
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> next week, that is, starting this weekend and going through next weekend
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> there's a breather at the other end of that, though
00:28 <spidey> i wish i had a laptop
00:28 <spidey> =<
00:28 <spidey> that way i could still have net on my way to LA :D
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv doesn't take much for resources, heh
00:29 <spidey> well
00:29 <spidey> i can't load up a desktop pc in a 18 wheeler
00:29 <spidey> =/
00:29 <[dlh]> wrtlprnft: what happened to commit messages being echoed here?
00:29 -!- luke-jr_work [n=luke-jr@adsl-70-128-250-253.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out]
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> [dlh]: did you merge your scripting stuff to the trunk yet?
00:30 <[dlh]> no, not yet. I'm not sure it works on linux or windows yet.
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  Maybe that'll get done if you merge to the trunk.  :)  Chicken and egg...
00:30 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: something broke :s
00:30 <[dlh]> heh
00:31 <[dlh]> well I just wrote a rotation system for the ruby branch — you implement the logic yourself in Ruby, instead of it being an XML resource.
00:31 <spidey> you know who's fault that is wrtlprnft ?
00:31 <wrtlprnft> someone's
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: it's luke-jr_ (hi there!) 's, I"m sure
00:31 <spidey> it's luke-jr_ 's
00:31 <spidey> =p
00:32 <[dlh]> so should I merge, or will someone get angry with me :)
00:33 <wrtlprnft> #unload CIA
00:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> [dlh]: I think you should merge, but my development system is broken now so I can't help you if it does break the trunk horribly
00:33 <wrtlprnft> #unload CIA
00:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
00:33 <wrtlprnft> #load CIA
00:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
00:34 <wrtlprnft> will work now, hopefully
00:34 <Ady> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
00:34 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: beta.aa.net down again?!
00:34 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: nvm, just took its time to log in
00:35 <Ady> forums are down for me
00:35 <[dlh]> not for me
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> they still work fine for me
00:35 <Ady> for me since yesterday
00:35 <[dlh]> maybe you got banned.
00:35 <Ady> and now keeps loading, for 1 hour aprox
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> do a hard refresh
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> hold shift and press the reload button
00:35 <Ady> ok...
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> at least, in firefox that's how you do it
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> it should force even a fresh dns lookup
00:37 -!- Van-hayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034207046.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
00:37 <Van-hayes> #ping
00:37 <armabot> pong
00:37 <wrtlprnft> well, tell me if it works next time you commit something
00:38 <Ady> i commit something?
00:42 <Ady> stills loading
00:44 <Van-hayes> #armaconfig ping
00:44 <armabot> Van-hayes: CYCLE_PING_RUBBER: Additional niceness for high ping players (default: 3) || PING_CHARITY: How much ping are you willing to take over from your opponent? (default: 100) || PING_FLOOD_GLOBAL: The times PING_FLOOD_TIME_X, multiplied by this value, count for all pings from all machines. Negative values disable global flood protection. (default: 0.1) || PING_FLOOD_TIME_10: Minimum time for 10 ping packets (1 more message)
00:45 -!- Ady2 [n=ady@176.Red-83-51-204.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #armagetron
00:45 <Ady2> haha look at this
00:45 <Ady2> loading half an hour and appears a message saying:
00:45 <Ady2> Downloading file index.php , save or open...
00:46 <Ady2> thats with mozilla, ie doesnt show nothing
00:48 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> I just posted on the forums
00:48 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-114-141-224.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
00:48 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-114-141-224.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit]
00:49  * Lucifer_arma has left this server (Read error: 1034 (Launched into orbit by smelly fart)).
00:50 <madmax|pt> why do you share that with us...
00:50 <Ady2> could someone unban me please, its not fun
00:52 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-114-141-224.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
00:52 <wrtlprnft> who banned who?
00:53 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034198128.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:55 <Van-hayes> #ping
00:55 <armabot> pong
00:55 <Ady2> someone banned me from the forums
00:56 <Ady2> i can enter using an anonymizer, but not without
00:57 <Ady2> slulu
00:58 <Ady2> well, i wont post a reply to the armachatron topic
00:58 <Ady2> all i want to say is that i didnt put a ban ption coz i dont think that ppl will be so annoying to ban them
00:59 <Ady2> it has a good spam protection , so i think theres no need of ban ;)
00:59 <madmax|pt> reminds me of KRABBELBABY, as previously reminded by feather
00:59 <Ady2> whos krabbelbaby
01:00 <Van-hayes> krabbelbaby was one of the worst ingame spammers
01:00 <Van-hayes> really annoying
01:00 <wrtlprnft> i wonder what Ady did to get banned, too. He discussed some beside the point, but there's other people who are worse
01:01  * wrtlprnft looks at luke-jr_, Louven and wrtlprnft 
01:01 <Ady2> you look at yourself?
01:01 <wrtlprnft> i do sometimes discuss beside the point
01:01 <Ady2> i like to answer with the same card
01:02 <Ady2> is that reason for a ban?
01:02 <wrtlprnft> i dunno what happened there.
01:03 -!- Ady [n=ady@79.Red-83-51-204.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
01:03 <Ady2> ?
01:04 -!- Ady2 is now known as Ady
01:04 <wrtlprnft> what else might have happened
01:04 <wrtlprnft> i doubt he banned you because of that thread alone, if he did at all
01:04 <wrtlprnft> maybe it's just some sort of routing problem
01:04 <Ady> bah
01:04 <Ady> too sensible ppl these ays
01:04 <Ady> days*
01:06 <wrtlprnft> after all, your last visible post was 3 days ago, and i doubt guru3 would ban you three days after the issue happened
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> it's highly unlikely ady got banned, I don't think guru3 (hi there!) bans people except for malicious stuff
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> so it's got to be something else
01:07 -!- [NP]Tangent_ is now known as [NP]Tangent
01:07 <Ady> k
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> remember, an anonymizer just removes your internt connection from the loop.  i.e. your connection to the anonymizer matters, but then it's the anonymizer to the forums
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> so whatever problem you're having, the anonymizer isn't having, so all it does is confirm that you have a problem specific to your home/computer/os/whatever
01:08 <Ady> ok
01:08 <[dlh]> “svn merge --dry-run $AA_SVN/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad@6081 $AA_SVN/armagetronad/branches/ruby/armagetronad .” ← is that command correct to merge? “.” is my working copy of trunk.
01:08 <Ady> could be anti spywware
01:08 <wrtlprnft> happened to me, too, btw. everyone else was able to access the forums, but i wasn't
01:08 <Ady> hmm
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> if it's taking a long time to load, the best likelihood is that there's some switch between spain and sweden that's having problems
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> none of the rest of us are in spain, so of course we won't hit that switch :)
01:09 <Ady> ...
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> try resetting your router and all the devices you have, and if that doesn't fix it, you probably can only wait on your isp to do something
01:09 <Ady> my devices are fine...
01:09 <Ady> its a 1500$ pc
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> router?
01:10 <Ady> dsl
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> did you try resetting it?
01:10 <Ady> for what
01:10 <Ady> its just working fine
01:10 <guru3> yeah only ips that make spam posts get banned
01:10 <guru3> or people i really really hate
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> obviously something's not working fine
01:11 <Ady> do you hate me?
01:11 <guru3> and Ady shouldn't fit into either category
01:11 <guru3> people like that annoying kid... sniper
01:11 <Ady> guru are u wrtl?
01:11 <guru3> no
01:11 <guru3> i'm guru
01:11 <guru3> :D
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> tank program :)
01:11 <Ady> yeah..
01:11 <guru3> the behind the scenes playa in tron
01:11 <guru3> aww sssh lucifer ;)
01:11 <Ady> haha :P
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> hahahaha
01:12 <Ady> was that taken from my post?:P
01:12 <wrtlprnft> guru3 is the guy who's paying us all for including a backdoor in arma
01:12 <Ady> ..
01:13 <Ady> u said it first
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't believe him, read the source for yourself :)
01:13 <guru3> yeah PAY ME MUAHAHAHA
01:13 <Ady> backdoor, what does it do
01:13 <wrtlprnft> a backdoor allows you to go into your backyard
01:13 <Ady> ...
01:14 <Ady> night is affecting your brains
01:14 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-71-245-203-40.delv.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
01:14 -!- Ady is now known as Ady_arma
01:14 <wrtlprnft> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerta_trasera
01:14 <Ady_arma> gracias
01:14 <Ady_arma> i know what a backdoor is
01:15 <Ady_arma> im asking whats the one u have in arma for
01:15 <wrtlprnft> guy, it's irony!
01:15 <wrtlprnft> *ironic
01:15 <guru3> because sometimes when the front door of the server is broken
01:15 <Ady_arma> i like serious talking
01:15 <guru3> you have to go around the back
01:16 <spidey> lol
01:16 <wrtlprnft> it allows the CIA to read your files
01:16 <Ady_arma> aha
01:16 <wrtlprnft> if you don't trust me: http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/armagetronad
01:16 <wrtlprnft> see, we're related to the CIA!
01:16 <guru3> :D
01:16 <guru3> <o
01:16 <guru3> \o
01:17  * spidey pokes guru3
01:17 <Ady_arma> im FBI, got ya
01:17 <Ady_arma> hands up
01:17 <wrtlprnft> pfft
01:17 <wrtlprnft> gotta find me
01:17 <Ady_arma> or i will shot at u with dos attacks
01:17 <Ady_arma> :P
01:17 <wrtlprnft> good luck.
01:17 <spidey> haha
01:17 <spidey> that made my day
01:17 <Your_mom_arma> wrtlprnft is out of the fbi's jurisdiction
01:18 <wrtlprnft> you can throw a lot of DOS floppies at me before i care
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> did he threaten us with DOS?
01:18 <spidey> #quote add "im FBI, got ya...hands up,or i will shot at u with dos attacks-Ady"
01:18 <armabot> spidey: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:18 <wrtlprnft> that's the boring way
01:18 <Ady_arma> hahahah
01:18 <Ady_arma> it was not like that
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add "im FBI, got ya...hands up,or i will shot at u with dos attacks-Ady"
01:18 <spidey> #quote add "im FBI, got ya...hands up,or i will shot at u with dos attacks-Ady"
01:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:18 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.  Quote #34 added.
01:18 <spidey> ,,,,
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> haha
01:18 <spidey> ...
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> tried to help, nvm
01:18 <spidey> lol
01:18 <Ady_arma> #q
01:18 <armabot> Ady_arma: Quote #34: "im FBI, got ya...hands up,or i will shot at u with dos attacks-Ady" (added by spidey at 01:17 AM, November 11, 2006)
01:19 <Ady_arma> LOL
01:19 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: in fact, you're still owner of the bot :P
01:19 <wrtlprnft> #night
01:19 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible the reason you took over the bot was that the bot was an unwitting scapegoat.
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just have to put the modern units on my tech chart now :)
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> then some tables with unit summaries ripped from the freeciv wiki
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01:20 <Lucifer_arma> the idea being that you should print it and sit it next to you while playing, of course
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> clearly I disagree with how the freeciv guys split up the era naming, heh
01:20 <spidey> gimme a printer
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01:21 <Lucifer_arma> how about a pdf viewer?  I'm going to export it to png for the freeciv site and pdf
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> and I'll see if I can stick the dia file up there, because after this is all done I'll be looking at how to change it to make it better for us
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> and the freeciv guys should have the raw source from which I made the one that goes with the game, you know?
01:22 <Ady_arma> time to go fishing
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> correction, modern units and high tech units, where modern ~ wwII tech
01:24 <Van-hayes> so, are we going to play that game from last night anytime tonight?
01:25 <Ady_arma> #night
01:25 <armabot> Good night Ady_arma!
01:25 <Ady_arma> cya
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01:25 <spidey> upto luci
01:26 <spidey> i want to
01:26 <spidey> =)
01:26 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
01:26 <armabot> madmax|pt: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (14 players) || Strawberry Fields (11 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (5 players) || Strawberry (1 more message)
01:26 <Your_mom_arma> i was just about to get howitzers and then build an army to demolish asia and the middle east
01:27 <madmax|pt> argh
01:27 <guru3> i wonder if the nsa ever hits on people talking about freeciv
01:28 <Van-hayes> heh
01:31 <spidey> hm
01:32 <spidey> mom
01:32 <spidey> you playing tonight?
01:32 <spidey> if so...looks like i'ma have to redivert my plans =/
01:32 <spidey> hayes and mom will have the next two biggest AI's under me
01:32 <spidey> =(
01:33 <spidey> =)*
01:38 <Your_mom_arma> why? did you declare war on me?
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> Van-hayes: I don't know at this point, I'm reviewing for a test that I need to take this weekend right now
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> if we do, it'll have to be later
01:43 <Van-hayes> ok
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> probably 5-6-7 hours from now or so
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> so go catch a movie, get laid, get drunk, whatever.  :)
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: we haven't declared war on you, in fact, the alliance is still together with you and me, but you built a pretty strong civ
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> actually, the way this game is working out, it might just be insanely fun to go human vs human
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> here's what I think, quite honestly, about human vs human
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not opposed to it anymore.  Going human vs ai is fun, no doubt, but we've had that fail and spoil the game
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> the reason it spoils the game, in my opinion, is because there's a betrayal involved
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> so I think we should really stick to our alliances, but if we're going to betray an alliance, we should give a turn or two warning before doing it
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how practical that is, but I intend to see it through that way myself.
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> So, I don't think we should use the alliance to prepare an invasion.  Like, I won't take advantage of the alliance to station a buttload of troops around your capital,
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> then break thea lliance and take out your capital.  That's just plain wrong, imo.
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> also, I'm not going into alliances without serious thought now.  I'd be happy to stay at peace and trade and stuff, but an alliance should be considered a military thing
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01:47 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like the game to support economic alliances, where certain non-combat units can move freely, but combat units get peace restrictions and zones of control
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd like to be able to switch freely from military alliance to economic alliance without rep penalty, but military should always require diplomacy to establish
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> but we don't have that, so I'd like to use Peace as economic alliance, where the alliance is more informal since the game doesn't have any mechanisms to help us do it
01:49 <madmax|pt> #serverdetails gladiators
01:49 <armabot> madmax|pt: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “gladiators” at the moment, sorry.
01:49 <madmax|pt> argh
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> and really, that's why we're building alliances anyway.  And we can help each other out in war and stuff without requiring a military alliance
01:49 <madmax|pt> that's one nice server
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> swampy's new server?
01:49 <madmax|pt> yeah
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> haven't played it yet
01:50 <madmax|pt> low rubber and that no 180s thingie :)
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> cool :)
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully he can phase out swampland with it, heh
01:51 <madmax|pt> goodnight
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01:52 <Van-hayes> Lucifer_arma: Id like to see trading units and being able to trade money in different wyas, like X gold per turn for X amount of turns
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I'd also like to see "allow passage for X turns" so we can set up toll paths :)
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> I think that stuff will require coding, so I'm not going to even try to work on it.  There's other stuff I want, all tied up in the tech tree.
01:54 <Van-hayes> thatd be nice, adds more strategy to troop placement
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> I've almost got the modern units put on the flowchart, then I have just the high tech units and the summaries
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> I'd also like "allow into city" as a treaty thing, so if you have damaged units and I have a barracks, I could let those units in (for a price)
01:55 <DrJoeTron> that place needs vote kick turned on
01:55 <DrJoeTron> but its pretty good
01:56 <Van-hayes> hmm the reputation should affect things more imo, because haveing despicable really doesnt do much
01:56 <DrJoeTron> theres some guy in there with a 3k ping
01:57 <Van-hayes> #serverinfo -v gladiators
01:57 <armabot> Van-hayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “gladiators” at the moment, sorry.
01:57 <Van-hayes> #serverinfo -v elec
01:57 <armabot> Van-hayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “elec” at the moment, sorry.
01:57 <DrJoeTron> well, i think its time i put the tub together now
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> you should be blocked from some things if your rep is too low, imo
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> and I like the guy's idea of having a senate to override your actions, and the senate would be trying to protect your reputation
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> that way people aren't warring with democracy, because everytime they turn around the senate will accept a peace treaty :)
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> and will eventually override an attempt to go to war
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> the original civs had a senate :)
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> oh boy, I still gotta do high tech and space age :/
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> space age is easy, it's only stealth
01:59 <Van-hayes> #ping
01:59 <armabot> pong
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> I'd also like to be able to build obsolete units
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> that really irks me that we can't
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> in a low production city, I'd rather build muskets than riflemen most of the time
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's why you see me holding off on some techs, because I can't afford the units and I won't be able to build the units I *can* afford if I take the tech!
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> the other thing is, in my ruleset there won't be a stealth fighter and a stealth bomber, there ain't no such thing in real life
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> the stealth fighter is called a fighter for political reasons, but it was built to be a bomber
02:03 <Van-hayes> fighters arent all that usefull imo
02:04 <Van-hayes> I dont see the use for them, besides as a support unit for other troops
02:04 <Van-hayes> and even then there are better units for it
02:08 <Lucifer_arma> they're useful as auto-attack units in a city
02:08 <Lucifer_arma> so when the bomber comes, the fighter comes out and takes it out
02:09 <Lucifer_arma> and with the enhanced auto-attack in the warserver, you can put the fighters in cities behind the front lines and keep them concentrated so they can cover many more cities than they need for bases
02:09 <Lucifer_arma> the only problem is, none of us have been threatened seriously with bombers (besides luke-jr_ (hi there!) )
02:09 <Lucifer_arma> when we go against the ai, we're always several tech levels ahead of them, and we have bombers and they don't normally have any countermeasures
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> ok, got all the units on there.  No summaries yet, but I'm not doing that tonight more than likely
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/images/e/e0/Technologies.png
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02:21 <Van-hayes> that'll come in handy
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> the graphics might be a bit misleading since I used the freeland graphics, not the default graphics :)
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02:50 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
02:50 <DavidProck1981> hi
02:50 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping*
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> yes?
02:51 <spidey> about what time you think we'll play?
02:51 <DavidProck1981> do u all see my text
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: midnight my time, more than likely is the earliest I can start
02:51 <spidey> i haven't slept in 31 hours p/P
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02:51 <spidey> o.O
02:52 <spidey> k
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> go take a nap?
02:52 <spidey> if i sleep now i won't wake up till sunday morning
02:52 <spidey> heh
02:53 <spidey> i'ma play defcon
02:53 <spidey> see if that'll keep me entertained
02:57 <Van-hayes> Lucifer_arma: midnight your time would be in how many hours?
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> about 4
02:57 <Van-hayes> ugh, thats 2 am
03:01 <spidey> well
03:01 <spidey> i was gonna play defcon
03:01 <spidey> it crashed
03:04 <spidey> *(KDE)* i andrew
03:04 <spidey> <pirate> but iwas in team midle
03:04 <spidey> <spidey> andrew?
03:04 <spidey> <pirate> so no reason
03:04 <spidey> <spidey> argh
03:04 <spidey> <spidey> bye
03:04 <spidey> <(KDE)> yes
03:04 <spidey> <(KDE)> he he
03:04 <spidey> <pirate> dont flood pls
03:04 <spidey> haha
03:04 <spidey> he's everywhere man
03:04 <spidey> it's not cool
03:05 <Van-hayes> adrew as in the guy from freeciv?
03:05 <Van-hayes> andrew*
03:05 <spidey> ya
03:05 <Van-hayes> creppy
03:05 <Van-hayes> maybe he stalks you now
03:05 <spidey> =/
03:05  * ghableska yawns
03:06 <spidey> hayes, wanna play a small game till nightmid?
03:09 <GodTodd> nightmid, huh?
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> I need to quit fooling with this damn flowchart!
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> I started adding unit summaries and realized I was going to be here all night and I have *got* to study!
03:10 <GodTodd> hrh
03:10 <GodTodd> heh even
03:11 <Van-hayes> spidey: Nah, I found The Departed on that movies site and am watching it now
03:12 <GodTodd> which site?
03:13 <Van-hayes> http://links2movies.50webs.com/
03:13 <Van-hayes> good movie so far
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03:15 <BreezyBadger> hey
03:15 <BreezyBadger> anyone here?
03:16 <BreezyBadger> if you are, do a custom connect to leera.dynalias.com
03:16 <BreezyBadger> port 4534
03:16 <BreezyBadger> high speed action
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03:22 <ghableska> o.0
03:28 <GodTodd> O.o
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03:40 <Luke-Jr> #last --with luke
03:40 <armabot> Luke-Jr: [02:08:05] <Lucifer_arma> the only problem is, none of us have been threatened seriously with bombers (besides luke-jr_ (hi there!) )
03:41 <Luke-Jr> #last --with luke --nolimit
03:41 <armabot> Luke-Jr: [03:39:29] <Luke-Jr> #last --with luke, [02:08:05] <Lucifer_arma> the only problem is, none of us have been threatened seriously with bombers (besides luke-jr_ (hi there!) ), [00:59:51] * wrtlprnft looks at luke-jr_, Louven and wrtlprnft , [00:33:35] <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: nvm, just took its time to log in, [00:33:26] <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: beta.aa.net down again?!, [00:30:36] <spidey> it's luke-jr_ 's, (11 more messages)
03:41 <Luke-Jr> hope everything's up
03:41 <Luke-Jr> will check back in a few hrs
03:45 <Your_mom_arma> ?
04:02 <DrJoeTron> blegh
04:03 <Van-hayes> Blarg
04:06 <GodTodd> the correct term is blergle
04:06 <GodTodd> heh
04:29 <Your_mom_arma> barf /me throws coins
04:39 <DrJoeTron> man
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05:37 <Lucifer_arma> blah blah yadayada
05:43 <GodTodd> yep
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> witty retort
05:46 <GodTodd> of course
05:47 <spidey> i
05:47 <spidey> don't
05:47 <spidey> know if i can make it another hour =/
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> if you do, you'll probably start hallucinating
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> I was actually thinking of seeing if anybody's ready to play yet
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> your_mom isn't here, though
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> and god todd got wiped out, so he'd have to play a new civ
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> but as much fun as that game is, I'd kinda like to start a new one with some setting tweaks
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05:54 <spidey> haha
05:55 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, did you hear luci talking about you?
05:55 <Your_mom_arma> no?
05:55 <Your_mom_arma> what happened
05:55 <spidey> <Lucifer_arma> if you do, you'll probably start hallucinating
05:55 <spidey> <Lucifer_arma> I was actually thinking of seeing if anybody's ready to play yet
05:55 <spidey> <Lucifer_arma> your_mom isn't here, though
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05:55 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:56 <spidey> actually
05:56 <spidey> starting over wouldn't be bad
05:56 <spidey> as long as tech trade is enabled...
05:56 <Your_mom_arma> any time i like a game no one ever wants to play it ever again
05:56 <Van-hayes> man... The Departed was a good movie
05:57 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, eh?
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'd be happy to resume this one, but I saw some things
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ok, here's one
05:57 <spidey> i would like to resume it to
05:57 <spidey> i've got over 163 units
05:57 <spidey> heh
05:57 <Van-hayes> doesnt matter to me
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ; Technology leak from other civilizations
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ; 0 - No reduction of the technology cost.
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ; 1 - Technology cost is reduced depending on the number of players
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ;     which already know the tech and you have an embassy with.
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ; 2 - Technology cost is reduced depending on the number of all players
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ;     (human, AI and barbarians) which already know the tech.
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ; 3 - Technology cost is reduced depending on the number of normal
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ;     players (human and AI) which already know the tech.
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> tech_leakage = 2
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> default is 0, I just changed it in my default file
05:57 <spidey> also the city doesn't go down 1 size for each sucessful attack
05:58 <spidey> it doesn't go down 1 when you take it
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> right, when it should
05:58 <spidey> ya
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> which is probably why the cities we're taking are so awesome when we take them
05:58 <spidey> heh
05:58 <spidey> i'm not compaining
05:58 <spidey> =p
05:59 <spidey> it's storming
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> and also why it's so hard to disband a city after taking it, because there isn't any population loss in it
05:59 <spidey> bah
05:59 <spidey> #weather 38256
05:59 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Dover, TN - LBL, Dover, Tennessee is 71.1°F (10:52 PM CST on November 10, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa. 
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> I'm literally starving one of my cities to get rid of it
05:59 <Van-hayes> Id rather start a new one with the same map/ai but ill play if you want to do the other one
05:59 <spidey> actually
05:59 <spidey> i wanna start ovwe
05:59 <spidey> over
05:59 <spidey> with the 14 AI's
05:59 <spidey> but bigger
05:59 <spidey> it's to small =/
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> bigger map?
05:59 <spidey> ya
05:59 <Van-hayes> cant be world
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> we'll have to go with a generated map for that, I think
06:00 <Van-hayes> aw
06:00 <spidey> no?
06:00 <spidey> last time it was bigger
06:00 <spidey> way bigger
06:00 <spidey> when we killed hayes
06:00 <Van-hayes> there are 2 world maps
06:00 <spidey> remember?
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> europe is the biggest map
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but see, we're playing the biggest world map there is
06:00 <Van-hayes> hmmm, wanna do euope?
06:00 <spidey> no!
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> 200x100, compared to 80x50 for the small one
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> the europe map is really a pain, heh
06:01 <spidey> ai smallpoxes the fuck outta eurussia
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, we set city_mindistance so he can't, eh?
06:01 <Van-hayes> there is a setting for that
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> I just forgot last time is all
06:01 <spidey> ya but he still will
06:01 <spidey> untill there's no room left
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but he won't be able to smallpox, he'll just put a bunch of cities close together
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> see, it takes time for settlers to walk to a new place, it'll still slow it down
06:01 <Van-hayes> about as close as we usually do
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> also, we only played with like 3-5 ais or whatever
06:02 <spidey> well
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> we can have many more than that
06:02 <spidey> lets play the world map then =p
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'd either want to play the world map or generate one to get a bigger map
06:02 <Your_mom_arma> we could play the europe game and let van have sweden
06:02 <spidey> swiss suck
06:02 <spidey> honestly
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the swiss really do suck
06:02 <Van-hayes> let me hold your money, you guys go fight
06:03 <spidey> ?
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, I'd rather play a different europe game than that one, one where we've prevented the ai from smallpoxing
06:03 <spidey> ya
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> I've really enjoyed that game, but now it's at a point where it's painfully tedious to play
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06:03 <Van-hayes> not worth taking the cities?
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06:03 <spidey> it's worth it
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> and most of that is because the ai smallpoxed the shit out of northern europe
06:03 <spidey> just to many
06:03 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
06:03  * Durka is gonna pull a "Vanhayes"
06:03 <Durka> #armaservers
06:04 <armabot> Durka: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (3 players) || thecowsfarm(high accelerations, high rubber, funny bots and cows by epsy) (2 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (2 players) || Tigers Network Classic (1 more message)
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> we've spent somewhere around 15 hours just taking smallpoxed cities and doing nothing else
06:04 <Durka> #more
06:04 <armabot> Durka: Play (1 players) || The Electronic Gladiators (0 players) || ed's One Flag Capture the Flag - Testing (0 players) || Fortress (0 players) || =] ESAMU Armagetron World [= (0 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (0 players) || Brotherz From Another Motherz (0 players)
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> I estimate at least another 15 hours to take what else is there, that doesn't include anything else he's got
06:04  * Durka gets smacked by everyone in the room
06:04 <Vanhayes> ya we really need city_mindistance
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> then we have to clean up and make sure we've killed everyone not allied to us to get the game to end
06:04 <spidey> ya
06:04 <spidey> i say world map again
06:04 <Vanhayes> ok
06:04 <spidey> i call inca
06:04 <spidey> mom can have canada
06:05 <Vanhayes> noooooooooooo
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> and when it's over, the rankings are going to be me and mom first and spidey third, and that's only because spidey got hammered early
06:05 <Durka> sorry to interupt, but can you guys tell me if you like this site?
06:05 <Durka> http://ddl.notlong.com
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> no spam!
06:05 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, nah
06:05  * Durka gets killed from Mom bombing him then luci poking him
06:05 <spidey> my 1 carrier of elite bombers, 1 carrier of hardened bombers and 1 carrier of hardened choppers says so
06:06 <spidey> btw i figured out
06:06  * Durka has no clue wtf you guys are talking about
06:06 <Durka> bye
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06:06 <spidey> hardened bombers will pwn a unit in a city with a SAM
06:06 <spidey> vet bombers won't
06:06 <Vanhayes> durka it looks pretty nice
06:06 <Vanhayes> er
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, we'll have to finish the game to see what the rankings wind up being, but I'm still pretty sure that's the ranking we're going to get.  We've won the game, the rest is tedium
06:06 <spidey> ya
06:06 <spidey> i say new game though =p
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, if we do world map, what does everyone want?  do we have to have most humans clustered in america?  or can you guys take the pressure and start in europe/asia/africa instead?
06:07 <spidey> inca
06:07 <Vanhayes> new game on world map with the good settings would be fun
06:07 <Vanhayes> wel we should be relitivly close to at least one person
06:08 <Vanhayes> like, not everyone in NA except one
06:08 <spidey> well
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> well, last time if I'd have known mom was going to china I'd have taken mongolia :)
06:09 <spidey> mom are you playing?
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: Luke-Jr?
06:09 <spidey> oh god
06:09 <spidey> not luke!!
06:09 <spidey> anyone but luke!
06:09 <spidey> =p
06:09 <Vanhayes> I think luke is moving now
06:09  * spidey drop kicks Luke-Jr
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> y'all saw my new and improved philosophy on diplomacy, alliances, and stuff, right?  :)
06:09 <spidey> no?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll start the server and we can fool with settings, but y'all need to go through and make sure they're right :)
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> some of the ones we're tlaking about don't have dialogs!
06:10 <spidey> k
06:13 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma: Luke-Jr luke-jr_ 
06:13 <spidey> GodTodd, Lucifer_arma Vanhayes Luke-Jr Your_mom_arma 
06:13 <Vanhayes> #last --with dave
06:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: [06:45:26] <Lucifer_arma> www.davefancella.com
06:14 <Your_mom_arma> pong
06:14 <GodTodd> pacman
06:14 <Vanhayes> hmm, cant connect
06:14 <Vanhayes> hahaha
06:14 <Vanhayes> Tetris
06:14 <spidey> lol
06:14 <GodTodd> pitfall
06:14 <GodTodd> pole position!
06:15 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: is the server up?
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> sorry about that, try now
06:15 <Vanhayes> ah
06:26 <Your_mom_arma> #dict nazy
06:26 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: No definition for "nazy" could be found.
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
06:29 <GodTodd> ok...sorry...was putting clothes in the washer....what civ is preferable for me to take?
06:31 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: how many are on NA?
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> I think just spidey right now
06:31 <spidey> no
06:31 <spidey> i'm inca
06:31 <spidey> south america
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> there's 4 possible american civs, 3 of them are north america specifically
06:32 <GodTodd> k, i'll take american then...was thinking of german as well
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09:00 <Vanhayes> #time
09:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: 08:59 AM, November 11, 2006
09:01 <Vanhayes> #time
09:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: 08:59 AM, November 11, 2006
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11:36 <Vanhayes> #time
11:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: 11:35 AM, November 11, 2006
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12:58 <madmax|pt> hi
13:01 <Vanhayes> morning
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14:34 <Lucifer_arma> you guys figure it out, I'm goig to school
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14:35 <Vanhayes> spidey: SHouldnt have tried it
14:36 <spidey> seeing as i know van has nukes i'ma build me about 10 or 12
14:36 <spidey> =p
14:36 <Vanhayes> how many units did you lose there?
14:36 <spidey> dunno
14:36 <Vanhayes> at least 50 some
14:36 <spidey> but if i was gonna attack you, i would
14:36 <spidey> i wouldn't set there and brag about it
14:36 <spidey> you can ask luci that =p
14:37 <Vanhayes> come on, 50 some troops on my borders for precaution?
14:37 <spidey> no
14:37 <spidey> 50 some there so i can stockpile and figure out what i need
14:37 <spidey> i choose that city so i could fuck with you =p
14:38 <Vanhayes> good plan, worked out well
14:38 <spidey> hah
14:38 <spidey> i'm seriously building alot of nukes :|
14:38 <Vanhayes> ya but I am about to connect a railway to where my 50 some troops are
14:38 <spidey> so =p
14:38 <Vanhayes> then its 1 turn to everyone of your cities
14:39 <spidey> nope
14:39 <Vanhayes> anyways, you cant just pile a tonne of troops next to someones border who hasnt slept in about a day
14:40 <Vanhayes> might get a little paranoid
14:40 <spidey> haha
14:40 <spidey> i haven't slept in over 2 days
14:40 <spidey> maybe longer
14:40 <spidey> i lost count
14:40 <spidey> i've been wanting to goto sleep since last night :|
14:40 <spidey> so i'ma do that now
14:41 <Vanhayes> ya, im going to take a shower and eat then go to sleep
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15:11 <Voker57[away]> What's armagetron?
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15:13 <Andriano> Всем привет
15:14 <Voker57[away]> Andriano: it is english channel
15:14 <Voker57[away]> But there is no one anywby
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15:16 <Andriano> It iz have noy gud
15:18 <madmax|pt> oO
15:19 <Andriano> :-)))))))))
15:20 <wrtlprnft> configure:1528: error: possibly undefined macro: _AC_SRCPATHS If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation.
15:20 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: any ideas?
15:20 <[dlh]> Yeah, see this thread → http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=9001
15:21 <[dlh]> the fix is in 0.2.8
15:21 <wrtlprnft> thanks
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15:34 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
15:34 <armabot> madmax|pt: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (11 players) || =] ESAMU Armagetron World [= (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || Gamma Deathmatch Server (6 players) || Super Duck Sumo! (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (4 players) || Carina Epsilon (high (1 more message)
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16:36 <Luke-Jr> #last --with luke --nolimit
16:36 <armabot> Luke-Jr: [06:12:16] <spidey> GodTodd, Lucifer_arma Vanhayes Luke-Jr Your_mom_arma, [06:11:55] <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma: Luke-Jr luke-jr_, [06:08:09] * spidey drop kicks Luke-Jr, [06:08:09] <Vanhayes> I think luke is moving now, [06:08:01] <spidey> anyone but luke!, [06:07:57] <spidey> not luke!!, [06:07:51] <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: Luke-Jr?, [03:39:40] <Luke-Jr> #last --with luke --nolimit, [03:39:29] <Luke-Jr> #last (11 more messages)
16:36 <Luke-Jr> wtf u all want
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17:52 <swingle> hi
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17:52 <swingle> anybody has the doxygen docs for arma?
18:00 <|CruZ|> doxygen?
18:00 <swingle> yep, ive read it on the wiki
18:01 <|CruZ|> hmm
18:01 <swingle> it says theres a doxyfile
18:01 <|CruZ|> one sec
18:02 <|CruZ|> thats the doxygen doku: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Development_Docs
18:06 <swingle> ???
18:06 <swingle> i expected some docs extracted from the source
18:06 <wrtlprnft> |CruZ|: sec
18:07 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/doxy/
18:07 <wrtlprnft> dunno how current, thouhj
18:07 <wrtlprnft> *though
18:07 <wrtlprnft> |CruZ|: or just do “make doxy”
18:07 <swingle> wrtlprnft: thx thats what i was looking for
18:07 <|CruZ|> kk
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18:41 <ghableska> hello
18:47 <wrtlprnft> hi
18:57 <ghableska> #weather 50265
18:57 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 30.2°F (10:54 AM CST on November 11, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa. 
18:59 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: is there any way to not have “make install” try to install stuff into /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/ but into my PREFIX?
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19:09 <ghableska> #serverdetails rain
19:09 <armabot> ghableska: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “rain” at the moment, sorry.
19:09 <ghableska> #serverdetails arena
19:09 <armabot> ghableska: °¯ps arena: Players (10/16): AD89, ghableska, Kamakazi, one^tm, sunnygirl, |AST| }{Alex}{, ~*LoD*~Mephisto, ~*sP*~ conroe, ~*SP*~Sasha, °°qain
19:37 <ghableska> ugh, trolls
19:38 <ghableska> #lastseen ad79
19:38 <armabot> ghableska: timed out
19:39 <ghableska> #lastseen ghableska
19:39 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska seems to be on °¯ps arena right now.
19:39 <ghableska> #lastseen ad
19:39 <armabot> ghableska: >ADRIAN< seems to be on Tigers Network Classic Play right now.
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19:54 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6267 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/swig/Makefile.am:
19:54 <armabot> armagetronad: - only copy setup.rb and lib/ from the srcdir to the builddir if they aren't the same
19:54 <armabot> armagetronad: - add the --prefix option when setup.rb install is called
19:54 <armabot> armagetronad: - test if armabot works again
19:54 <armabot> armagetronad: Note: arma won't install for some reason if you are building from an external directory.
19:54 <wrtlprnft> yay
19:54 <wrtlprnft> hurray, armabot works again!
19:55  * ghableska celebrates
19:55 <wrtlprnft> #f
19:55 <armabot> Random Fortune: Q: What lies on the bottom of the ocean and twitches? || A: A nervous wreck.
19:55 <ghableska> #lastseen ad
19:55 <armabot> ghableska: ady22 seems to be on Palatinum's Place right now.
19:55 <ghableska> #lastseen ad79
19:55 <armabot> ghableska: timed out
19:55 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen ad42
19:55 <ghableska> o.0
19:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
19:55 <wrtlprnft> i don't know where that timeout is set, otherwise i'd increase it
19:56 <ghableska> oh
19:58 <wrtlprnft> #list
19:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
19:58 <ghableska> #time
19:58 <armabot> ghableska: 07:57 PM, November 11, 2006
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20:06 <Ady> hi all
20:07 <Ady> ive got some news :)
20:07  * Ady just finished the armachatron project :)
20:07 <Ady> public chat/server and private ip2ip IM 
20:08 <wrtlprnft> w/ an IRC gateway?
20:09 <Ady> lets say that for now its for win users
20:09 <Ady> no IRC
20:09 <wrtlprnft> oh well, so it's nothing for me.
20:09 <Ady> if it gets popular i will release the codes, then you will add the IRC gateway and whatever you want :)
20:10 <wrtlprnft> i'll leave that to Luke-Jr 
20:11 <Ady> now finally i can sleep, yay!
20:11 <Ady> wrtl, do you have any ftp server?
20:12 <wrtlprnft> no
20:12 <wrtlprnft> ftp is too ancient for me
20:12 <Ady> a possible problem for this thingy would be this
20:12 <Ady> it connects to a FREE ftp server
20:12 <Ady> it doesnt allow 1+ users at same time
20:13 <Ady> then while 1 client is downloading the master list , other one tryin to connect wouldnt be able to connect
20:13 <wrtlprnft> why does it connect to an ftp server at all?
20:13 <Ady> to get a list of available servers
20:13 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors
20:13 <wrtlprnft> no FTP required
20:14 <Ady> dont get it
20:14 <wrtlprnft> or do you mean chat servers?
20:14 <Ady> yes
20:14 <wrtlprnft> just put them onto some http server?
20:14 <Ady> chat servers or channels
20:14 <Ady> do i have one?
20:15 <wrtlprnft> there's enough free http hosting services
20:15 <wrtlprnft> #unload web
20:15 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:15 <wrtlprnft> #load web
20:15 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: No plugin named "web" exists.
20:15 <Ady> thats what im using
20:15 <wrtlprnft> #load Web
20:15 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:15 <Ady> a free html hosting
20:15 <wrtlprnft> html pages on an FTP server?!
20:16 <Ady> yes
20:16 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen asdfasdf
20:16 <Ady> #lastseen ady
20:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
20:16 <armabot> Ady: ady22 has last been seen on Palatinum's Place 10 minutes ago.
20:16 <Ady> #lastseen lod|ady
20:16 <armabot> Ady: LoD|Ady~PKC has last been seen on Nixda.net - Sumo Server 2 days 0 hours 10 minutes ago.
20:16 <Ady> only 2 days?
20:16 <Ady> its like a year...
20:16 <wrtlprnft> still timing out :(
20:16 <Ady> #lastseen asdfasdf
20:17 <armabot> Ady: timed out
20:17 <wrtlprnft> it times out if it doesn't find the guy
20:17 <Ady> no such user
20:17 <Ady> yes
20:17 <wrtlprnft> or if the time he was last seen is too far in the past
20:17 <Ady> about 1 week?
20:17 <wrtlprnft> anything that takes more than a few seconds to search
20:19 <Ady> ok. i have to re read the codes to find any possible bugs
20:19 <luke-jr__> Ady: um, just use XMPP service discovery?
20:19 <luke-jr__> Ady: FYI, your program is useless w/o XMPP support :p
20:20 <wrtlprnft> same fight…
20:20 <wrtlprnft> again…
20:20 <luke-jr__> wrtlprnft: you disagree?
20:21 <wrtlprnft> well, it doesn't lead anywhere
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20:52 <Ady> wrtlprnft: could you send me the armagetron 0.3 icOn? .ico format if possible...
20:53 <nowimproved> Ady, ill send ya it
20:54 <Ady> msn/icq/skype or u upload it somewhere?
20:54 <nowimproved> Ady, are you recieving it?
20:54 <Ady> no
20:55 <nowimproved> do you have gaim?
20:55 <Ady> no
20:55 <nowimproved> ok then
20:55 <Ady> could you upload it to any server
20:55 <nowimproved> yah
20:55 <nowimproved> one second
20:56 <nowimproved> www.xptclan.com/tron.ico
20:56 <nowimproved> hope thats the one you meant
20:56 <Ady> thanks mate
20:57 <Ady> ow
20:57 <Ady> thats the 2.8 one
20:57 <Ady> ...
20:57 <nowimproved> ok i downloaded armagaronad source and compiled it now trying to run it from the source directory i get this error any ideas?
20:57 <nowimproved> http://pastebin.ca/246040
20:57 <nowimproved> sorry about that Ady 
20:58 <Ady> dont u have the 0.3
20:58 <nowimproved> Ady, getting it, my bad
20:59 <[dlh]> http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/icons/armagetronad.ico?revision=6026
20:59 <nowimproved> there we go
20:59 <Ady> thanks
21:00 <[dlh]> The icon is under the GPL, so if you modify it… er, release your sources. I guess. I don't know how the GPL applies to artwork.
21:01 <Ady> i will use a icon visual modifier software
21:01 <nowimproved> any ideas on my probleM?
21:02 <[dlh]> nowimproved: what OS are you running on?
21:02 <nowimproved> [dlh], gentoo linux
21:03 <[dlh]> you've tried just doing “make run”?
21:04 <nowimproved> [dlh], in the src directory?
21:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:04 <wrtlprnft> though it should work, usually
21:05 <Ady> err
21:05 <Ady> i cant save the ico as .ico, just as bmp from the browser, and if i try a download manager it doesnt start...
21:05 <nowimproved> Ady, use wget
21:06 <nowimproved> hmm, that dont work
21:06 <nowimproved> lol
21:06 <Ady> yeh i ve noticed :P
21:07 <Ady> its okay i will use some other icon
21:07 <nowimproved> www.xptclan.com/tron.ico, thats what was in the development versions directory
21:08 <nowimproved> same size though
21:09 <nowimproved> is that it?
21:09 <Ady> yeh
21:10 <nowimproved> Ady, with that link you could have right clicked save page as
21:10 <Ady> i did
21:10 <Ady> but i cant edit that icon
21:10 <nowimproved> weird, worked form e
21:10 <Ady> thanks for all , but i will use some other one
21:11 <wrtlprnft> you can't edit .ico files with paint or such.
21:12 <DrJoeTron> no fucking way
21:13 <DrJoeTron> the alpha 5 suit from mighty morphin power rangers is on ebay
21:14 <nowimproved> thanks alot [dlh] it worked 
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21:34 <Luke-Jr> hum
21:35 <Luke-Jr> if the icon is GPLd, then he needs to GPL the program too? ;p
21:35 <Luke-Jr> probably not, but let's say so =p
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21:56 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: 1tpd
22:05 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr: Nag
22:05 <Vanhayes> you should have played that game last night Luke-Jr, took out half the ai before we saved it
22:06 <Luke-Jr> ...
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22:44 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
22:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Strawberry Fields (11 players) || Norm's Place (10 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (9 players) || ed's One Flag Capture the Flag - Testing (8 players) || °¯ps arena (8 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || .dBd|Server (4 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || (1 more message)
22:48 <Vanhayes> #dict Veruca
22:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "Veruca" could be found.
22:50 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: done
23:01 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6268 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tools/ (tCallback.cpp tCallback.h tRuby.cpp tRuby.h): “rb_protected” the block call in tCallbackRuby::Exec
23:01 <Luke-Jr> erm...
23:02 <Luke-Jr> since when is Ruby in trunk?
23:02 <Luke-Jr> and why wasn't it discussed on the dev forum first?
23:04  * Luke-Jr voices objection because SWIG is fundamentally flawed in design
23:04 <[dlh]> and what would your ideal solution be?
23:05 <Luke-Jr> something that doesn't require writing interfaces twice
23:06 <[dlh]> You know about %include, right…
23:06 <Luke-Jr> hmm?
23:06 <Luke-Jr> %include doesn't look like C++
23:07 <wrtlprnft> /ignore -channels #armagetron Luke-Jr 
23:07 <[dlh]> %include "foo.h" in a swig interface file. No need to duplicate the interface in two files.
23:08 <Luke-Jr> then what is the purpose of a "swig interface file"?
23:09 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: i think it was better when the commits weren't posted in the channel, kind of
23:10 <[dlh]> wrtlprnft: I'm subscribed to the RSS feed, so I wouldn't mind if they weren't.
23:10 <Luke-Jr> I think it was better when people would discuss large changes before making them
23:10 <Luke-Jr> or did that ever happen?
23:11 <[dlh]> It happened in the channel, I guess you missed it.
23:12 <Luke-Jr> the channel is live, it doesn't count
23:12 <[dlh]> sure it does, especially when the suggestion comes from an admin.
23:12 <Luke-Jr> nope
23:13 <Luke-Jr> so what is the purpose of a "swig interface file"?
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23:16 <[dlh]> You know you can do more than include a header file in SWIG — initiate template classes, rename classes/functions. How would you do that without a special interface file
23:16 <Luke-Jr> why should you need to explicitly initiate templates?
23:16 <Luke-Jr> or rename anything?
23:16 <Luke-Jr> why should Ruby get an interface any different from C++?
23:17 <[dlh]> Because ArmagetronAd::Tools::TWhatever looks dumb, I know it is in Tools, why the T prefix?
23:18 <Luke-Jr> how is that complaint Ruby-specific?
23:18 <Luke-Jr> and why is it ArmagetronAd::Tools?
23:19 <Luke-Jr> I don't recall most tWhatever having namespaces
23:20 <wrtlprnft> note that in ruby the ArmagetronAd is most likely a module
23:21 <Luke-Jr> the point being that if an interface is changed, it should be changed consistentlyt
23:43 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:43 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 35.6°F (3:54 PM CST on November 11, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa. 
23:43 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
23:43 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 37.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 49%. Wind: NNW at 3 mph (5 km/h).
23:47 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:47 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!

Log from 2006-11-12:
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00:24 <Luke-Jr> I love how trunk depends on a newer SWIG than what is available...
00:30 <[dlh]> …
00:32 <Luke-Jr> ...
00:35 <[dlh]> 1.3.29 is the latest SWIG.
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01:42 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
01:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
01:42 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:42 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (5:54 PM CST on November 11, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa. 
01:43 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
01:43 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 34.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Wind: ESE at 9 mph (14 km/h).
01:44 <Vanhayes> #g 33.8 F in C
01:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: 33.8 degrees Fahrenheit = 1 degree Celsius
01:44 <Vanhayes> #g 34 F in C
01:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: 34 degrees Fahrenheit = 1.11111111 degrees Celsius
01:44 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
01:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 47°F / 8°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM AST; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness with 40 percent chance of showers overnight. Wind southwest 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Temperature steady near 9.; Sunday - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of showers in the morning. Periods of rain (1 more message)
01:44 <Vanhayes> #more
01:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: beginning late in the morning. Amount 2 to 4 mm. Fog patches developing late in the morning. High 11. Sunday night..showers. Amount 2 mm. Fog patches. Wind northeast 30 km/h gusting to 50. Temperature steady near 10.; Monday - Cloudy with 30 percent chance of showers. High 13.;
01:45 <Vanhayes> bah, I want snow again
01:45 <ghableska> hehe
01:45 <ghableska> we got snow yesterday
01:46 <Vanhayes> did it last, or is it already gone?
01:46 <ghableska> most of it is still here...
01:47 <ghableska> but it'll probably melt away by Monday
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02:13  * spidey yawns
02:13  * DrJoeTron spiddles up
02:14 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:14 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (6:54 PM CST on November 11, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa. 
02:16 <ghableska> #lastseen rgb
02:16 <armabot> ghableska: rgb seems to be on °¯ps arena right now.
02:16 <ghableska> too many trolls today :-/
02:16 <Vanhayes> its the same one
02:16 <Vanhayes> everytime
02:17 <ghableska> you've met him? ;)
02:18 <Vanhayes> heh, im slowcoaster
02:19 <ghableska> oh. :P
02:19 <DrJoeTron> #weather 60016
02:19 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Chicago Palwaukee, Illinois is 37.4°F (6:52 PM CST on November 11, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa. 
02:20 <DrJoeTron> #weather 60018
02:20 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Chicago, Illinois is 39.2°F (6:51 PM CST on November 11, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa. 
02:20 <DrJoeTron> #weather 60056
02:20 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Chicago Palwaukee, Illinois is 37.4°F (6:52 PM CST on November 11, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa. 
02:22 <spidey> #weather 38256
02:22 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 40.3°F (7:21 PM CST on November 11, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa. 
02:22 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
02:22 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 34.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Wind: ESE at 9 mph (14 km/h).
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03:35 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
03:35 <armabot> pong
03:35 <spidey> o.O
03:36 <ghableska> o.0
03:36 <ghableska> #pong
03:36 <armabot> ping
03:49 <DrJoeTron> #pong
03:49 <armabot> ping
03:50 <spidey> #DrJoeTron
03:50 <DrJoeTron> yeah
03:51 <spidey> wanna play defcon or trackmania?
03:52 <DrJoeTron> eh
03:52 <DrJoeTron> EH
03:53 <DrJoeTron> possibly tmn
03:53 <DrJoeTron> in a bit though
03:53 <spidey> hm
03:53 <spidey> k
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03:56 <Your_mom_arma> tmnt?
04:05 <DrJoeTron> trackmania national turtles
04:05 <DrJoeTron> alright im down
04:06 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma, you wanna play?
04:07 <DrJoeTron> ts?
04:08 <DrJoeTron> spidey ping
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04:12 <Your_mom_arma> no ts, but i'll play
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04:19 <DrJoeTron> im in lets rock
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05:00 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: I see you :P
05:07 <DrJoeTron> :D
05:07 <DrJoeTron> bbl
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06:04 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Your_mom_arma wanna finish that game from last night?
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06:08 <spidey> o.O
06:09 <Your_mom_arma> pong
06:09 <spidey> ping
06:09 <spidey> =p
06:10 <spidey> wanna finish that game from last night?
06:10 <Your_mom_arma> as long as neither of you are going to nuke australia
06:10 <spidey> well
06:11 <spidey> since van won't be on i'll probably cancel my nuke production
06:11 <spidey> but since i know van has nukes, if he plays in the future i'm stock piling them
06:12 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
06:17 <spidey> hmm
06:17 <spidey> units can become higher ranked than elite?
06:17 <spidey> sweet
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06:40 <GodTodd> heh   http://www.civanon.com/home.shtml
06:42 <spidey> wtf
06:42 <spidey> haha
06:43 <spidey> that is a joke....right??
06:43 <GodTodd> dunno...it's a full site tho
06:43 <GodTodd> :)
06:46 <spidey> What up [sic], Sid Meier? How you like me now, foo [sic]? I'm all healed and [excrement]. Yo, your game ain't [excrement], and you and Civ IV [create a partial vacuum], yo. Because of CivAnon, I now realize that the entire Civilization franchise is [equine excrement], and I ain't gonna be mind-controlled by you Firaxis Games [individuals who have been borne without the benefit of wedlock] no mo' [sic]. So, you go and make as m
06:46 <spidey> any games as you want, yo [sic]. Because of CivAnon, I'll be the one all up in this [canine female] not playin' it. Word.
06:46 <Vanhayes> It was the Industrial Age that finally did me in. I was into the hard stuff, man: electronics, combustion, motorized transportation hah
06:46 <spidey> haha
06:48 <GodTodd> yah
06:48 <Vanhayes> The best is the one from the old lady
06:48 <GodTodd> it reads like a joke :)
06:48 <Vanhayes> I like to kill, that's true. But I like cake even more.
06:48 <GodTodd> My girlfriend is addicted
06:48 <GodTodd> is there anyone out there that can give me some advice? She keeps going on about Genghis Khan and about how she wants to “Lay the smack-down” on people all the time. Is this normal? The other day she wanted me to dress up in sheep pelts and eat steak tar tar.... I don't think I can take this....
06:49 <spidey> o.O
06:51 <spidey> http://www.civanon.com/members.shtml#
06:51 <spidey> eh
06:51 <spidey> if it's a joke, they took alot of time making it =p
06:51 <GodTodd> In many cases, particularly for those gamers who take in excess of 80-90 turns at a single sitting, a false reality will set in. Addicts find it impossible to separate their game life from “real” life, often confusing mundane, everyday occurrences (such as the honking of a car horn) as overt acts of political aggression
06:52 <Vanhayes> haha
06:52 <Vanhayes> Civ Stockholm Syndrome/Displaced Sexuality. A small subculture of Civ addicts has been known to experience a displaced affection toward the very root of its addiction, particularly for alpha-male Civ dictators such as Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan. There have even been rumors of a fringe element of Civ “Stockholmers” who routinely meet in “swinger”-type environments during which they play pseudo-erotic games such 
06:52 <Vanhayes> as, “Slip Me The Mau Tse Tung,” among many others.
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06:57 <Your_mom_arma> #alias
06:57 <Your_mom_arma> #list
06:57 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
06:57 <spidey> #list alias
06:57 <armabot> spidey: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
06:57 <spidey> =p
06:57 <Your_mom_arma> #poing help
06:57 <armabot> piong
06:58 <Vanhayes> #uberinsult
06:58 <armabot> You're not even the slime in luke-jr_'s buttcrack.
06:58 <Vanhayes> heh
06:58 <Your_mom_arma> #help uberinsult
06:58 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: (uberinsult <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo You're not even the slime in luke-jr_'s buttcrack.".
06:58 <Vanhayes> #last --with piong --nolimit
06:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: [17:08:40] <luke-jr_> #piong, [17:08:37] <luke-jr_> @piong, [17:08:36] <Ady> #piong, [17:08:35] <luke-jr_> #alias add poing echo piong, [17:08:29] <luke-jr_> #alias add piong echo poing, [17:08:27] <luke-jr_> #alias add piong echo poing\, and [17:08:09] <Ady> #piong
06:59 <Vanhayes> #time
06:59 <armabot> Vanhayes: 06:58 AM, November 12, 2006
07:00 <Vanhayes> #do
07:00 <armabot> no
07:05 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
07:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (13 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || Norm's Place (2 players) || .dBd|Server (1 players) || --> In Limbo (1 players) || Weasel Systems Racing Grid (1 players) || Eternal Dynasty Clan Server (0 players) || ^_^A FREE SERVER FOR CLAN - BETA (1 more message)
07:05 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo free
07:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: ^_^A FREE SERVER FOR CLAN - BETA: No online players.
07:06 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo -v free
07:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: ^_^A FREE SERVER FOR CLAN - BETA ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.myspace.com/armagetron, Description: “this is an beta server, could use your input.“, No online players.
07:06 <Vanhayes> spidey: Your_mom_arma Lucifer_arma are we finishing that game from last night?
07:09 <GodTodd> spidey's gonna nuke you ;)
07:09 <GodTodd> heh
07:09 <Vanhayes> heh, I nuked spideys city that had 50+ troops in it
07:10 <GodTodd> yeah...i think he's planning to go hiroshima on you 
07:10 <GodTodd> haha
07:10 <Vanhayes> lol, I have hiroshima too
07:10 <Vanhayes> ya, his threat was, he is going to nuke every thing he can reach
07:11 <GodTodd> well...if he's like NKorea then that's not much of a threat ;)
07:12 <GodTodd> wow...miniaturization in BC?
07:12 <Your_mom_arma> i had 1500 tech points i think mabey more
07:13 <Your_mom_arma> ping Lucifer_arma
07:13 <GodTodd> ping pong
07:15 <GodTodd> bing bong
07:15 <Vanhayes> man those barbs were a big let down, I thought they would be harder
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> i built all those defences and i didnt even get attacked
07:16 <GodTodd> haha
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> #help last
07:16 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
07:16 <Vanhayes> heh, Ive already started on canada, I love helicopters with the UN wonder
07:17 <Your_mom_arma> i cured cancer
07:17 <Vanhayes> hmm, have you even fought anything yet mom?
07:18 <Your_mom_arma> nope
07:18 <Your_mom_arma> after you guys met me i got you guys 90% of your techs
07:19 <Vanhayes> well, we had a tonne of techs that I got, but you got the rest that were 1000+ points needed
07:20 <Your_mom_arma> i got almost all of my own techs as well, since i couldnt share with you guys
07:20 <Vanhayes> ya, if we had met you sooner, we would have had all the techs before the barbs came i bet
07:22 <Vanhayes> if we do play, Id rather not fight spidey, and just go for finishing off the ai
07:45 <spidey> i need transports
07:45 <spidey> lots, and lots of them
07:45 <spidey> =/
07:48 <spidey> doesn't matter = last nights nuke
07:48 <spidey> because it's aved before that
07:48 <spidey> but i'm building them just cause i know you have them =)
07:49 <spidey> luci and hayes got lucky =(
07:49 <Your_mom_arma> [dlh]:  some weirdo came in your server asked me to ask you to change the sound speed, dont do him any favors though he was a jerk
07:51 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
07:51 <Your_mom_arma> also he tried to convince me su= your
07:51 <spidey> still up for that tmn game?
07:51 <Your_mom_arma> which it doesnt
07:52 <Your_mom_arma> i cant even get on arma with a wierd alias and not get harrased
07:52 <DrJoeTron> oh god
07:52 <DrJoeTron> we already played our tmn game
07:52 <spidey> =/
07:52 <Your_mom_arma> ghab played too
07:52 <spidey> o.O
07:53 <DrJoeTron> i just caught 30 seconds of the dukes of hazard remae
07:53 <DrJoeTron> i think i caught the only funny part
07:53 <DrJoeTron> because it was the opening scene of super troopers
07:53 <DrJoeTron> with the same guys
07:54 <spidey> i just ate my breakfast
07:54 <spidey> that was cooked....at breakfast
07:54 <spidey> o.O
08:32 <GodTodd> finally finished that damn program :/
08:40 <Vanhayes> #night
08:40 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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08:45 <Voker57> Hiya
08:45 <Voker57> What is armagetron?
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09:51 <armabot> spidey: Don't forget to PM luke-jr or luke-jr_ about an account on the resource repository!
09:52 <spidey> ?
09:52 <spidey> #last --nolimit
09:52 <armabot> spidey: [09:50:51] <spidey> ?, [08:44:03] <Voker57> What is armagetron?, [08:43:46] <Voker57> Hiya, [08:39:01] <Vanhayes> #night, [08:31:00] <GodTodd> finally finished that damn program :/, [07:53:36] <spidey> o.O, [07:53:35] <spidey> that was cooked....at breakfast, [07:53:29] <spidey> i just ate my breakfast, [07:52:11] <DrJoeTron> with the same guys, [07:52:04] <DrJoeTron> because it was the opening scene of super (50 more messages)
09:52 <spidey> #more
09:52 <armabot> spidey: troopers, [07:51:54] <DrJoeTron> i think i caught the only funny part, [07:51:42] <DrJoeTron> i just caught 30 seconds of the dukes of hazard remae, [07:51:28] <spidey> o.O, [07:51:25] <Your_mom_arma> ghab played too, [07:51:19] <spidey> =/, [07:51:16] <DrJoeTron> we already played our tmn game, [07:51:08] <DrJoeTron> oh god, [07:50:55] <Your_mom_arma> i cant even get on arma with a wierd alias and not get (49 more messages)
09:56 <Your_mom_arma> spidey rejoin
09:56 <Your_mom_arma> i want to see if that wierd message pops up again
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10:47 <spidey> ??
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10:47 <armabot> spidey: Don't forget to PM luke-jr or luke-jr_ about an account on the resource repository!
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10:48 <spidey> hm
10:49 <spidey> but i've already got one o.O
11:00 <wrtlprnft> o_O
11:00 <wrtlprnft> #herald remove spidey
11:00 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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12:33 <Ady> do anyone have a server with ftp access?
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12:53 <spidey> Ady, i do
12:54 <spidey> but i'm going to sleep right now
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13:54  * Lucifer_arma rubs his eyes
13:57 <guru3> good morning
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> is that what it is?
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> man, I just slept for like 16 hours
14:00 <guru3> cool
14:00 <guru3> i slept for like 9 today
14:13 <wrtlprnft> slept for like 8
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14:48 <Lucifer_arma> 13 it came out to
14:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, when I said that 16 hours, I still didn't know my name :/
14:48 <Lucifer_arma> waking up sucks sometimes
14:52 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6269 /armagetronad/trunk/ (20 files in 14 dirs): (log message trimmed)
14:52 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 6075 to 6268:
14:52 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:52 <armabot> armagetronad:  r6262 | z-man | 2006-11-10 22:51:12 +0100 (Fri, 10 Nov 2006) | 1 line
14:52 <armabot> armagetronad:  Ping charity is now clamped to the range 0-300 on the server and the client to avoid odd-looking insanely high numbers in the ping charity report console message. Thanks to Sublimal.Freq for pointing this out.
14:52 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:52 <armabot> armagetronad:  r6261 | z-man | 2006-11-08 23:18:58 +0100 (Wed, 08 Nov 2006) | 2 lines
14:52 <Lucifer_arma> "But the reality is that organised religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate."  <--- that means it does work, isn't that its purpose?
14:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6140710.stm
15:09 <wrtlprnft> organized religion leads to more war and terrorism and other bad things than what can be justified by positive effects IMHO.
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> no argument here.  :)  The headline for teh article was "Sir Elton calls for ban on organized religion"
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16:28 <ghableska> hi
16:34 <wrtlprnft> hi
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17:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6270 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Added missing handled case in switch statement.
17:10 <Lucifer_arma> hi
17:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6271 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tools/tResourceManager.cpp: Added return statements to stubs.
17:28 <ghableska> #weather 50265
17:28 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 37.4°F (9:54 AM CST on November 12, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa. 
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17:48 <Ady> lucifer_arma shame?
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> shame
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> complete and utter shame
17:49 <Ady> why
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> programming with visual basic is like sleeping with a 6 year old.  You don't want anybody to know, and you should be locked up for it.
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17:50 <Ady> dude
17:50 <Ady> vb is for principiants isnt it?
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> principiant?
17:50 <Ady> amateur
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> #dict principiant
17:51 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: gcide: Principiant \Prin*cip"i*ant\, a. [L. principians, p. pr. of principiare to begin, fr. principium. See {Principle}.] Relating to principles or beginnings. [R.] --Jer. Taylor. [1913 Webster]
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> sure, if you don't actually want to learn how to program
17:51 <Ady> thats me
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> may as well get one of those point-and-click things like Delphi
17:51 <Ady> nah thats too shit
17:51 <Ady> did i tell you my age?
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> too shit?  Delphi > vb
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> do I care?  I started programming when I was 8, how much is your age going to matter to me?
17:52 <Ady> i first had a pc at 14 
17:53 <Ady> why are you like that
17:53 <Lucifer_arma> why am I like what?
17:53 <Ady> bah foget about
17:53 <Ady> *forget
17:56 <Ady> should i publish it 
17:56 <Ady> now i feel like shit
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> sure
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> added bonus, we won't nag over source anymore :)
17:58 <Ady> keep doing it
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> the real reason vb sucks (besides it being a horrible BASIC implementation) is that you can't do anything without depending heavily on microsoft code
17:59 <Lucifer_arma> in particular, you have to depend on a plugin architecture microsoft wrote that is so full of holes, you may as well not have even written the thing
17:59 <Ady> do i suck because of that?
17:59 <Lucifer_arma> did I say you suck?
17:59 <Ady> indirectly
17:59 <Lucifer_arma> *condemn the act, not the person
18:00 <Ady> #lastseen lod|ady
18:00 <armabot> Ady: LoD|Ady has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 15 hours 31 minutes ago.
18:00 <Ady> ?
18:00 <Ady> who fakes me
18:01 <Ady> one thing
18:01 <Ady> you had to do this "armachatron2 much time ago
18:02 <Ady> and it seems that you could do it much better than i did
18:02 <Ady> but if i only said : do it please i guess u wouldnt make nothing
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, you make the point.  Compare "could do it much better" to "actually did it", and "actually did it" wins every time
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> depending on how you look at it
18:03 <Ady> im not good at english
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> writing it in vb locks out fully half the community, so you may as well hang a sign that says "no niggers allowed" on the door to your house
18:04 <Ady> not my fault
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> nobody's fault they're born black, either
18:04 <Ady> why dont u do it, but for all community?
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> because I don't see the use.  :)  We have irc, we have lots of IM programs
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> armabot already does most of what you were after.
18:05 <Ady> where can i find ast alex right now
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen alex
18:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Alex has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 3 hours 18 minutes ago.
18:05 <Ady> so
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, he's not ingame right now.  You have his IM?
18:05 <Ady> #chat ast alex
18:05 <Ady> dont u understand
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> so you don't have his IM?
18:05 <Ady> no
18:05 <Ady> i dont want to have all players im
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> look, you're saying "run another IM program in addition to the one you already run"
18:06 <Ady> there should be 1 im for all players
18:06 <Ady> im actually running 3Ims
18:06 <Lucifer_arma> then write a GAIM plugin and tell them to switch to that
18:06 <Lucifer_arma> there's no way I'm going to run another damn IM program.  I already run an IM and an irc program because I don't like how my IM program handles irc
18:07 <Ady> ok
18:07 <Ady> where should i post the link
18:07 <Lucifer_arma> so from the start, your program won't help anybody find me.  That makes it a little less useful.  Now start adding in the people who won't use it?
18:07 <Lucifer_arma> you should post it in the thread you created, that's where people are looking :)
18:07 <Ady> do u think that ppl checks forum
18:09 <Ady> its ok
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> there's a page on the wiki somewhere for this sort of thing
18:09 <Ady> do u have a windows over there
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> me?  no, I don't
18:10 <Ady> well, ok i wont put more time on it, at the end it will be useless, like i said. thanks for all and cya later ;)
18:11 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  "less useful" != useless
18:11 <Lucifer_arma> consider other options, which is kind of what the folks in that thread tried to get you to do
18:12 <Ady> i just started it
18:13 <Ady> made the basic thing
18:13 <Ady> now its your turn, whoever wants to improve it.
18:14 <Ady> i gotta live my life :)
18:15 <wrtlprnft> how i can i improve something if i need software for some 500€ to compile it?
18:15 <wrtlprnft> windows xp + visual basic
18:15 <Ady> vb6?
18:15 <Ady> download them for free
18:15 <Ady> welcome to internet p2p
18:16 <wrtlprnft> to *legally* compile it
18:16 <Ady> did i mention something about beeing legal?
18:16 <wrtlprnft> if you publish software compiled by cracked copies of software it's your problem, i don't have to do that.
18:16 <Ady> ive just published it
18:16 <Ady> on the forum
18:16 <Ady> lucifer was talking something about the wiki page
18:17 <Ady> but dunno what was he saying
18:17 <wrtlprnft> so now you're linking to illegal files on a forum that doesn't belong to you?
18:17 <Ady> hehe
18:17 <Ady> vb6 is legal and winxp too
18:17 <Ady> but xp is 12020ac 
18:17 <Ady> not 500
18:18 <wrtlprnft> well, last time i checked vb was some 300€ in its smallest edition
18:18 <Lucifer_arma> linux + (insert your favorite programming language here) = 0 USD
18:18 <Lucifer_arma> freedom = priceless
18:19 <wrtlprnft> linux + python + php + qt + g++ + perl + ruby = -0.00 €
18:19 <Ady> i like to buy things
18:19 <wrtlprnft> i've got a broken mechanical pencil here
18:20 <wrtlprnft> do you wanna buy it for 500€?
18:20 <Ady> i will buy your silence
18:21 <wrtlprnft> that's as much money as you can fit onto a chessboard by putting one cent on the first square, 2 on the next, 4 on the one after that, and so on
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> what's on the next, 6 or 8?
18:26 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2^15
18:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2^15 = 32,768
18:26 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2^15 / 100 in Euro
18:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:27 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: 8
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2^15 / 100 in EUD
18:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:27 <wrtlprnft> #g 2+
18:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> #g (2^15) / 100 in EUD
18:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:27 <wrtlprnft> #g 2+^64 - 1 euros in usd
18:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> #g (2^15) / 100) USD in EUD
18:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:27 <wrtlprnft> #g 2^64 - 1 euros in usd
18:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> #g (2^15) / 100) USD
18:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: ((2^15) / 100) * U.S. dollar = 327.68 U.S. dollars
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> #g (2^15) / 100) USD in euros
18:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: ((2^15) / 100) * U.S. dollar = 254.746171 Euros
18:27 <wrtlprnft> #g ((2^64 - 1)/100) euros in USD
18:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (((2^64) - 1) / 100) * Euros = 237,280.469 trillion U.S. dollars
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> ah, knew I'd get it if I stroked it just right
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh, wait a minute, there's more than 16 squares on a chessboard
18:28 <wrtlprnft> that's the amount of money i'd get
18:28 <wrtlprnft> 64
18:28 <wrtlprnft> did you ever try playing chess w/ 16 squares?
18:28 <Lucifer_arma> can't move, that's how many squares are occupied by your starting pieces :/
18:28 <wrtlprnft> yep
18:29 <Lucifer_arma> hey, you already knew I was a little screwy with actual numbers
18:29 <wrtlprnft> infact you need 32 squares for the starting pieces alone :P
18:29 <Lucifer_arma> ah, that would be yours + mine
18:29 <wrtlprnft> yep
18:29 <Lucifer_arma> see?  Make it symbols and I'm just fine :)
18:30 <wrtlprnft> :P
18:30 <wrtlprnft> now where's the money, Ady?
18:30 <Ady> come and get it
18:30 <Ady> :P
18:30 <wrtlprnft> #g ((2^64 - 1)/100) euros in (currency of spain)
18:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (((2^64) - 1) / 100) * Euros = 184,467.441 trillion Euros
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> you know, if you made armaspy advanced use pyqt instead of pykde, you could add all the stuff ady wants
18:30 <wrtlprnft> oh, duh
18:30  * wrtlprnft slaps wrtlprnft 
18:31 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i'd have to fix that memory leak first :(
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> #g (2^63 + 1) / 100 USD in euros
18:31 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:31 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: it's 2^64
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> #g ((2^63) + 1) / 100) USD in euros
18:31 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (((2^63) + 1) / 100) * U.S. dollar = 71,704.6726 trillion Euros
18:31 <wrtlprnft> and why + 1?
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> the first square has only 1 cent, so it has to be 2^63 for the second square on, and then +1 for the first square
18:32 <wrtlprnft> nope
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> also, I'm doing it wrong anyway, you're talking in a euro reference frame
18:32 <Ady> why are u wasting time on that?
18:32 <wrtlprnft> 1 square: 2^1 - 1
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> #g ((2^63) + 1) / 100) euros in USD
18:32 <wrtlprnft> 2 squares: 2^2 - 2
18:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (((2^63) + 1) / 100) * Euros = 118,640.235 trillion U.S. dollars
18:32 <Ady> i bet that wrtlprnft wont come to get the money anyways :P
18:32 <wrtlprnft> 3 squares: 2^3 - 1
18:32 <wrtlprnft> 2 squares: 2^2 - 1
18:32 <wrtlprnft> Ady: you can have my paypal
18:32 <Ady> hah
18:33 <Ady> hand2hand
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> yours and mine should be equivalent, if we're both right :)
18:33 <Ady> i give u cash
18:33 <wrtlprnft> uh, no, i can't carry that to the airport
18:33 <Ady> there wont be anything to carry
18:33 <Ady> :P
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> because his silence can't be bought
18:33 <Ady> nah not really
18:34 <Ady> my spanish brain its too violent :P
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> to get hiim to shut up, you have to give him some really nice code that he can sink his head into
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> problem is then we wouldn't hear from hiim for several weeks
18:34 <Ady> haha
18:34 <wrtlprnft> he can have gGame.cpp to sink his head into
18:34 <wrtlprnft> we won't hear from him ever again
18:35 <Ady> me?
18:35 <wrtlprnft> yeah, you
18:35 <Ady> im not that idiot
18:35 <wrtlprnft> oh, you're the other one?
18:35 <Ady> if in 1 day i dont understand it all, bye bye and livin la ivda
18:35 <Ady> *vda
18:35 <Ady> hah
18:35 <Ady> *vida
18:36 <wrtlprnft> #translate spanish english vida
18:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
18:36 <wrtlprnft> #google translate spanish english vida
18:36 <Ady> vida=life
18:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.22 seconds: La Vida De Chucho El Roto, Spanish , Movies/Videos|Drama, VHS Video ...: <http://www.worldlanguage.com/Products/La-Vida-De-Chucho-El-Roto-Spanish-Movies-Videos-Drama-103862.htm>; C.M. Mayo's "Viva La Vida Literaria" - Spanish language resources ...: <http://www.cmmayo.com/spanish.html>; Tango Lyrics in English and Spanish: <http://www.planet-tango.com/letras.htm>; Amazon.ca: (3 more messages)
18:36 <Ady> im not an idiot
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> that's a pretty cool error message
18:36 <wrtlprnft> no, stupid!
18:36 <Ady> i dont even use that vocabulary
18:37 <Ady> #q 34
18:37 <armabot> Ady: Quote #5: "first the spoon, then the ladle, then the bowl, then the bowl, then the makefiles have a Ni! -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:41 AM, March 27, 2006)
18:37  * GodTodd lives la vida loca.
18:37 <Ady> #q get=34
18:37 <armabot> Ady: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
18:37 <Ady> pff
18:37 <Ady> #help q
18:37 <armabot> Ady: (q <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "quote random".
18:38 <wrtlprnft> #f
18:38 <armabot> Random Fortune: Friction is a drag.
18:38 <wrtlprnft> #insight
18:38 <Ady> #q spidey
18:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The rapid paradigm shifting of the Internet will overhaul the entrenchment of our egalitarianism.
18:38 <armabot> Ady: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
18:38 <Ady> how to get quote nr 34
18:38 <GodTodd> #quote get 34
18:38 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #34: "im FBI, got ya...hands up,or i will shot at u with dos attacks-Ady" (added by spidey at 01:17 AM, November 11, 2006)
18:39 <Ady> no more programming for me for.....1 year? :D
18:39 <Luke-Jr> #last --with luke --nolimit
18:39 <armabot> Luke-Jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 4823 messages.
18:39 <Luke-Jr> lame, the tab was blue!
18:39 <wrtlprnft> #last --from Luke-Jr -nolimit
18:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
18:39 <Ady> #q get 23
18:39 <armabot> Ady: Quote #5: "first the spoon, then the ladle, then the bowl, then the bowl, then the makefiles have a Ni! -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:41 AM, March 27, 2006)
18:40 <Ady> #quote get 23
18:40 <armabot> Ady: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
18:40 <Luke-Jr> so we're agreed on banning Ady ?
18:40 <Ady> mh?
18:40 <Ady> want to ban me?
18:40 <Ady> there will come other guy like me
18:40 <Ady> and other
18:40 <Ady> and other
18:40 <Ady> LOL!
18:41 <wrtlprnft> infact that's what the guy before said, too
18:41 <Ady> lets see what the next one says
18:41 <Ady> one question
18:41 <Luke-Jr> I have a better idea
18:41 <Ady> why to ban me?
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18:41 <Luke-Jr> how about we just implement the XMPP stuff to browse Arma servers and such
18:41 <Luke-Jr> w/o Ady 
18:41 <wrtlprnft> because Luke-Jr doesn't like you.
18:42 <Luke-Jr> Ady: because you're stupid?
18:42  * Luke-Jr doesn't like stupid people
18:42 <Ady> am i stupid?
18:42 <Luke-Jr> you write a useless program in VB...
18:42 <wrtlprnft> that's his right
18:42 <Luke-Jr> can't get much worse
18:43 <Ady> my brain- my problem
18:43  * wrtlprnft has written a useless progam in VB, too
18:43 <wrtlprnft> one big window with a push botton
18:43 <Luke-Jr> well
18:43 <Luke-Jr> useless, pointless, and VB
18:43 <wrtlprnft> if you moved your mouse over it moved somewhere else
18:43  * GodTodd writes useless programs in c++, am i stupid too?
18:43 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd: I'd bet they still have a point to them
18:43 <Ady> i write programs in a notebook, am i stupid?
18:44 <GodTodd> just getting a grade
18:44 <GodTodd> heh
18:44 <Luke-Jr> Ady: if they're useless, pointless, and in VB
18:44 <wrtlprnft> as long as you don't write programs in EOS you're OK
18:44 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd: that's a purpose
18:44 <Luke-Jr> wtf is EOS
18:44 <Lucifer_arma> condemn the act, not the kid!
18:44 <GodTodd> precisely
18:44 <Lucifer_arma> ady: you're a really wonderful and super kid that made a big mistake!
18:44 <Luke-Jr> until the kid renounces the act, they're one in the same
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> now, if you did it in python, only Luke-Jr (hi there!) would think you made a mistake
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> and that's a Good Thing
18:45 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: that's what i asked myself when we were told to use that in my computer science class
18:45 <Ady> what mistake?
18:45 <Luke-Jr> Ady: that ... program
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> telling us you were using vb?
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> if you hadn't mentioned ocx, we wouldn't have noticed (or turned a blind eye), and since none of us run windows, we'd never have noticed
18:46 <Luke-Jr> lol
18:46 <Luke-Jr> but it would still have been pointless and useless
18:46  * wrtlprnft wouldn't have known what ocx is
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> it's not entirely pointless and useless
18:46 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: what does it provide that eg, Psi, doesn't?
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> I think if it were instead done to chain together existing stuff that we have instead of trying to start something new, it'd be terribly useful
18:47 <Luke-Jr> or what purpose did it serve?
18:47 <Luke-Jr> sure
18:47 <Luke-Jr> but it doesn't
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> keeping in mind I've only been half-following that thread anyway
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok, let's say FUK clan starts using it
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> and it turns out that RMS is part of the FUK clan, and he writes an Emacs plugin that does all the same stuff
18:47 <Luke-Jr> ...
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> now, which is worse, Ady doing it in vb or RMS doing it for emacs?
18:48 <Luke-Jr> Then my respect for RMS drops even more
18:48 <Luke-Jr> Ady doing it in VB is worse
18:48 <Luke-Jr> but RMS's isn't a whole lot better
18:48 <Luke-Jr> anyhow
18:48 <Ady> tomorrow its my birthday
18:48 <Luke-Jr> need to get back to the new apt
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> so, after RMS does it in emacs, the vi guys notice it and decide to write up a vi syntax highlighter that does it all
18:48 <Ady> 11 years :D
18:48 <Luke-Jr> tomorrow I get inet at new apt
18:49 <wrtlprnft> if it was a vim plugin i might use it.
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> right!
18:49 <Luke-Jr> Ady: ok, so I was prolly using VB at 11 too
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> then wrtlprnft (hi there!) decides it's so useful, he adds it to armaspy advanced
18:49 <Luke-Jr> but still, I was writing to do XMPP
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> and that's the straw that breaks the camel's back, and luci and luke get together for the first time without an argument, and rewrite armaspy advanced to use pyqt4
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> now the whole world has it!
18:49 <Luke-Jr> (ColinJab, IIRC)
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> so, not totally useless
18:50 <GodTodd> and when do you ride the unicorns?
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> that was back when RMS was in the story, pay attention!
18:50 <Luke-Jr> let's just start an ArmageTRON MOO!
18:50 <Ady> bye
18:50 <Luke-Jr> lol
18:51 <Luke-Jr> Ady: maybe try GAMBAS
18:51 <Luke-Jr> ttyl
18:51 <Ady> gambas en mi plato
18:51 <Luke-Jr> wtf
18:51 <Ady> adios solerdos
18:51 <Ady> :P
18:51 <Luke-Jr> sure whatever
18:51 <Luke-Jr> bye
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> at least he didn't threaten us with DOS
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> who was it that threatened us with DOS?
18:53 <GodTodd> me
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18:53 <GodTodd> say hello to my little ping
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> you DOS-lover
18:54 <GodTodd> that was the last time windows was semi-stable
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  it's always been semi-stable
18:54 <GodTodd> nah...now it's pseudo-stable
18:54 <GodTodd> ;)
18:55 <Lucifer_arma> I had to kill autocad in class the other day
18:55 <Lucifer_arma> it locked up after I did something, but I don't remember what I did to lock it up :/
18:55 <GodTodd> heh
18:56 <GodTodd> think i can learn us history in 3 weeks?
18:56 <Lucifer_arma> you can learn the watered-down "THE USA RULZ U ASSHAT!" version of US history they teach in 3 weeks
18:56 <wrtlprnft> hmm, vbasic + DOS = qbasic?
18:57  * GodTodd shivers at mention of qbasic.
18:57  * Lucifer_arma never used qbasic
18:57 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: heh, you must have already taken it. ;)
18:57 <guru3> qbasic is fun
18:57 <Lucifer_arma> last basic I used was blitzbasic on the amiga
18:57 <GodTodd> they taught me new basic on qbasic when they made me take it for my AAS
18:58 <Lucifer_arma> although I did look at the basic interpreter for Palm OS that was kicking aroud
18:58 <Lucifer_arma> but since it didn't allow gui operations, I didn't fool with it
18:58 <Lucifer_arma> I want to write a cool, simple, 2d game with pygame, any ideas?
18:58 <GodTodd> err...rather they said "no more line numbers" and i programmed like it was c with basic syntax
18:59 <Lucifer_arma> blitzbasic has procedures :)
18:59 <Lucifer_arma> *had
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18:59 <Lucifer_arma> actually, my dad directed me to something called blitzbasic that was available for windows pretty recently
18:59 <Lucifer_arma> but I'd already discovered pygame and wasn't interested
19:00 <Lucifer_arma> mac os x + vb = Mac and Cheese
19:00 <GodTodd> haha
19:01 <Lucifer_arma> for two vectors to be perpendicular, their dot product has to be 0, right?
19:02 <GodTodd> dunno...i'm still in remedial math
19:02 <Lucifer_arma> trig isn't remedial math...
19:02 <GodTodd> i think so, though
19:02 <Lucifer_arma> my wife also considers anything below calculus remedial
19:02 <Lucifer_arma> you guys are psychos
19:02 <GodTodd> and when did i say i wasn't psycho? :P
19:03 <Lucifer_arma> did I say you didn't say you were a psycho?
19:03 <Lucifer_arma> more importantly, did I say that you didn't say that I didn't say you didn't say you were a psycho?
19:03 <GodTodd> did i say you said i didn't say i was a psycho?
19:03 <Lucifer_arma> haha, beat you to it
19:03 <GodTodd> beat me
19:04 <GodTodd> please
19:04 <GodTodd> because
19:04 <GodTodd> i need 
19:04 <GodTodd> it so that
19:04 <GodTodd> i can type 
19:04 <GodTodd> properly
19:04 <GodTodd> :P
19:04 <Lucifer_arma> who let 2020 in here?
19:06 <wrtlprnft> well
19:06 <wrtlprnft> i have
19:06 <wrtlprnft> to say
19:06 <wrtlprnft> i like
19:06 <wrtlprnft> 2020's style
19:06 <wrtlprnft> of writing
19:06 <wrtlprnft> more than
19:06 <wrtlprnft> posts that
19:06 <wrtlprnft> don't fit
19:06 <wrtlprnft> onto a
19:06 <wrtlprnft> standard printed
19:06 <wrtlprnft> page.
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> I swear
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> if those kids keep running in the house
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to put shackles on their legs
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> the shackles will be just as long as half of their walking strides
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> that would be cool
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> they would stop running
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> and this is more like 2020's posts
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> one phrase per line
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> don't break a phrase!
19:09 <Lucifer_arma> but don't complete the thought either
19:09 <Lucifer_arma> because finishing a thought is bad
19:09 <Lucifer_arma> too bad for posting
19:09 <Lucifer_arma> what was I saying?
19:09 <wrtlprnft> o_O
19:10 <wrtlprnft> using 2020's way of writing
19:10 <wrtlprnft> (
19:10 <GodTodd> O_o
19:10 <Lucifer_arma> why should I be constrained by limits that exist to make communication make sense?
19:10 <wrtlprnft> or at least faking it
19:10 <wrtlprnft> )
19:10 <wrtlprnft> is a great way to get higher line number on guru3's irc stats
19:10 <wrtlprnft> to get a good lead before spidey 
19:11 <Lucifer_arma> #stats
19:11 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I have 13 registered users with 11 registered hostmasks; 2 owners and 1 admin.
19:11 <Lucifer_arma> er
19:11 <Lucifer_arma> #ircstats
19:11 <armabot> http://www.electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
19:12 <wrtlprnft> g2g
19:13 <[dlh]> Our wikipedia page is up for deletion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armagetron_Advanced
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma spoke a total of 577423 words!
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma's faithful follower, wrtlprnft, didn't speak so much: 299594 words.
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> why?
19:13 -!- Niii [n=Niii@lnr56-1-82-246-48-71.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
19:13 <[dlh]> “No assertions of notability, no reliable third-party sources, appears to be a non-notable freeware game.”
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19:14 <[dlh]> oddly, GLTron is not going to be deleted. No fair!
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect foul play
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> there, fixed :)
19:21  * Lucifer_arma notes he's made his first contribution to that page
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20:01 <Lucifer_arma> aha, the freeciv protocol is slightly documented
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20:06 -!- Arma99 is now known as Durka
20:07 <Durka> hi kids
20:07 <Durka> anyone here?
20:09 -!- Durka [n=Arma99@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2k1-229.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has quit [Client Quit]
20:31 <GodTodd> no?
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20:58 <[dlh]> anyone running OS X here?
21:01 -!- siedge [i=siedge@host137-107.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has quit []
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21:37 <DrJoeTron> fucking trackmania
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22:21 <spidey> argh
22:21 <spidey> i'm mad
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22:29 <DrJoeTron> spidey get on track mania
22:29 <DrJoeTron> ghab and i are playing
22:29 <GodTodd> mad, angry or mad, crazy?
22:29 <spidey> angry =(
22:29 <spidey> DrJoeTron, what server?
22:30 <DrJoeTron> lets rock
22:30 <spidey> teamspeak
22:54 -!- Arma278 [n=48c9461e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
22:54 <Arma278> hello
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22:55 <wrtlprnft> gi
22:55 <wrtlprnft> *hi
22:56 <Legit> hey
22:59 <wrtlprnft> now let's see how this thing performs under wine
22:59 <wrtlprnft> armachatron, that is, as a seperate user, there's no way i'm running this on my normal account
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23:00 <wrtlprnft> err:module:import_dll Library MSVBVM60.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\pcquet\\armachatron\\armachatron.exe") not found
23:00 <wrtlprnft> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\pcquet\\armachatron\\armachatron.exe" failed, status c0000135
23:00 <wrtlprnft> plop.
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23:06 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6272 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
23:06 <armabot> armagetronad: Ruby is now shipped with the game. Configure ruby using this command: ./configure --prefix=$HOME/Library/ruby/1.8 --program-suffix=1.8
23:06 <armabot> armagetronad: There are still two issues:
23:06 <armabot> armagetronad: * setup.rb installs with just read permission, so install_name_tool will complain about not being able to open the bundle during the “Run Script: Package Ruby” build stage
23:06 <armabot> armagetronad: * I haven't figured out how to compile ruby as a universal binary yet
23:08 <wrtlprnft> now at least i got it running…
23:11 <Luke-Jr> so how do I disable Ruby/SWIG?
23:12 <wrtlprnft> rm -rf armagetronad
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23:17 <Luke-Jr> right... last I checked, one of the minimal requirements to adding scripting was that it be OPTIONAL
23:17 <Luke-Jr> now we have something non-optional that requires a newer version than what is available on a common OS?
23:24 <wrtlprnft> i'm sure it WILL be optional soon, just give it some time
23:24 <wrtlprnft> or hack it yourself
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23:31 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: well I don't like being unable to compile Arma
23:32 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6273 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: More work on including ruby with Mac OS X builds
23:33 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:33 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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23:39 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: qbasic predates vbasic btw
23:39 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: though there was a vbasic for DOS at like 1.0
23:39 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: I know a DOS-lover, btw
23:43 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: civ is documented where??
23:43 <Luke-Jr> How does GLTron support OS 9?
23:44 <spidey> ?
23:44 <spidey> ruby comes with ubuntu, and mepis
23:44 <spidey> =p
23:45 <Luke-Jr> so?
23:45 <Luke-Jr> does SWIG 1.3.29?
23:45 <spidey> maybe
23:45 <Luke-Jr> doubtful
23:46 <spidey> luke gimme a blank cd
23:46 <spidey> =p
23:46 <Luke-Jr> ...
23:46 <Luke-Jr> come get it
23:46 <spidey> k
23:46 <Luke-Jr> no clue where it is tho
23:47 <Luke-Jr> but we have plenty
23:47 <spidey> lol
23:47 <Vanhayes> #night
23:47 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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23:47 <spidey> so did i....
23:47 <spidey> till my uncle decided he'd waset about 15 trying to burn a svcd
23:48 <spidey> hrm
23:49 <spidey> i tihnk i'll buy some from tigerdirect, i don't feel like going to town =|
23:53 <spidey> #g 16.98 - .59
23:53 <armabot> spidey: 16.98 - .59 = 16.39
23:53 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
23:53 <spidey> ghableska, hate you
23:53 <ghableska> aww, why?
23:53 <spidey> cause you finished more tracks than me
23:53 <spidey> =(
23:53 <ghableska> don't forget that I got first on one too :P
23:54 <spidey> >:|
23:54 <ghableska> heh
23:54 <ghableska> that game is addicting
23:54 <spidey> for a few days
23:54 <ghableska> heh
23:55 <ghableska> according to DrJoeTron?
23:55 <ghableska> or you?
23:55 <spidey> i played it for awhile, then it got boring
23:55 <ghableska> oh
23:56 <ghableska> that one with the saxophone music was evil
23:56 <spidey> lol
23:57 <DrJoeTron> thats why i turned my music off
23:57 <DrJoeTron> and use my own
23:57 <DrJoeTron> i dont need to hear sammy hagar
23:57 <DrJoeTron> or "click clock click clock click clock click clock"
23:57 <ghableska> lmao
23:58 <DrJoeTron> its an addicting game
23:58 <DrJoeTron> for 2 weeks
23:58 <DrJoeTron> then its not fun at all
23:58 <DrJoeTron> because you realize its all the same thing
23:58 <ghableska> I love the click clock music
23:59 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: is that server the only one you go to?
23:59 <DrJoeTron> lately yeah
23:59 <DrJoeTron> my favorite servers are gone
23:59 <ghableska> ah
23:59 <ghableska> is there a way to change the controls?
23:59 <spidey> DrJoeTron, we should host one =p
23:59 <DrJoeTron> sure
23:59 <ghableska> where?
23:59 <DrJoeTron> in profile i think
23:59 <DrJoeTron> i use a gamepad
23:59 <DrJoeTron> so no worries here
23:59 <DrJoeTron> :D

Log from 2006-11-13:
--- Day changed Mon Nov 13 2006
00:00 <ghableska> :)
00:01 <DrJoeTron> oh god i cant stop sneezing
00:02 <ghableska> lol
00:02  * ghableska offers DrJoeTron a tissue
00:02 <ghableska> ouch
00:02 <ghableska> my fingers hurt now
00:03  * spidey hold ghableska's hand on the table, grabs a hammer, and hits all of them real hard
00:03 <spidey> now you don't have fingers
00:03 <spidey> =p
00:03 <ghableska> ouch
00:03 <ghableska> my hand hurts now
00:03 <ghableska> :P
00:03 <spidey> cut it off to?
00:03 <ghableska> no thanks
00:03 <spidey> ok
00:03 <ghableska> why not hit DrJoeTron?
00:03  * spidey cuts ghableska's hand off
00:03 <ghableska> ...
00:04 <spidey> if i hurt joes hands or fingers who else will play defcon with me? =p
00:04 <DrJoeTron> 2020 will
00:04 <spidey> no...
00:04 <DrJoeTron> :p
00:04 <ghableska> lol
00:05 <spidey> hrm
00:05 <spidey> gonna be a week and half before i get these cd -r's
00:05 <spidey> :|
00:06 <ghableska> anyone up for making a lightcycle model? ;)
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr: get a source tarball and look in the doc directory at the file called HACKING
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> it's very basic documentation, but it tells you where to start
00:07 <spidey> lol
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> now we just need a python library for manipulating it
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> tell you what, if you write the protocol stuff, I'll do a ui for it
00:08 <ghableska> heh
00:08 <ghableska> http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2646802&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
00:12 <DrJoeTron> ghab
00:12 <DrJoeTron> do you wanna know how to do the custom flag thing?
00:15 <ghableska> sure
00:16 -!- Durka [n=46215ae5@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:16 <Durka> hi
00:18 <ghableska> DrJoeTron...?
00:28 <DrJoeTron> ok
00:28 <DrJoeTron> sorry
00:28 <ghableska> it's fine
00:30 <DrJoeTron> http://www.zappinternet.com/index.php?video=nakWqiTpaC i was compeled by this
00:30 <ghableska> how did you even find that?
00:31 <DrJoeTron> magic
00:31 <ghableska> thought it was telepathy... ;)
00:33 <DrJoeTron> the link?
00:33 <ghableska> yes
00:34 <DrJoeTron> nah
00:34 <ghableska> so DrJoeTron: how do I add custom flags?
00:36 <DrJoeTron> ok
00:36 <DrJoeTron> you have to have a jpg
00:36 <DrJoeTron> or dds
00:36 <ghableska> ok
00:36 <DrJoeTron> it can only be 128x128
00:37 <ghableska> ok
00:37 <DrJoeTron> go to then C:\Program Files\TrackMania Nations ESWC\GameData\Skins\Avatars
00:38 <ghableska> ok
00:38 <DrJoeTron> just drop it in there
00:38 <ghableska> Cool, thanks.
00:38 <DrJoeTron> Then
00:38 <DrJoeTron> click your current flag
00:39 <DrJoeTron> when you're in profile
00:39 <DrJoeTron> and then just select it from there
00:39 <DrJoeTron> if you dont see it, you did something wrong :d
00:39 <ghableska> heh
00:40 -!- Arma53 [n=Arma53@pool-70-21-33-41.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
00:40 <Durka> canada?
00:41 <Arma53> yes
00:41 -!- Arma53 is now known as Canada
00:41 <Canada>  
00:41 <Durka> ok type /join #ddl
00:41 <Durka> oops doesnt work
00:41 <Durka> ok we will talk here
00:41 <Canada> pl
00:41 <Durka> whats ur private ip
00:41 <Canada>  ok
00:42 <Canada> how do i find my private one
00:42 <Canada> i know my non private one
00:42 <Canada>  ...my publicone
00:42 <Durka> did u get the message i just sent u?
00:42 <Canada> where is the message
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> are you in linux or windows or what?
00:42 <Canada> windows
00:42 <Durka> look at the top of this window
00:42 <Canada> yes?
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> ipconfig
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> open a command console and type ipconfig
00:42 <Durka> do u see where it says: Status #armagetron
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> start->run
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> enter "cmd"
00:43 <Durka> does it also say Durka
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> then type "ipconfig"
00:43 <Canada> ok uhmmmm what am i suppost to do
00:43 <Durka> canada: double click the blinking computers in ur taskbar
00:43 <Durka> thats easiest
00:43 <Canada> sorry, wheres my taskbar?
00:43 <Durka> bottom right
00:43 <Durka> where the clock is
00:44 <Canada> oh yes?
00:44 <Durka> Luci: do you think these 2 things should be on the arma forums?
00:44 <Canada> what is the blinking computers labled as
00:44 <Durka> irc chat login and search engine
00:44 <Durka> they're at the top of my site
00:44 <Durka> http://durka.freehostia.com/portal.php
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: what two things?
00:45 <Canada> brb bathroom
00:45 <Durka> there should be 2 blinking computers that are connected
00:45 <Durka> luci: look at my site
00:45 <Durka> you see them?
00:45 <Canada> is it local area connection?
00:46 <Durka> maybe
00:46 <Durka> is ur ip like
00:46 <Canada> no
00:46 <Canada> il look it up, brb
00:46 <Durka> did you find them luci?
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> reading forums right now
00:47 <Durka> ???
00:47 <Canada> my IP is
00:48 <Canada> ...
00:48 <Canada> Hello?
00:48 <Canada> you there?
00:48 <DrJoeTron> hey 
00:48 <Canada> hey joe
00:48 <DrJoeTron> wanna not type in color Canada?
00:48 <DrJoeTron> i can read black just fine
00:48 <Canada> ok
00:48 <DrJoeTron> thanks :D
00:48 <Canada> only nerds type in color
00:49 <Canada> Durka, are you there, my IP is, but hows that have to do with my router
00:49 <Canada> i mean
00:49 <Canada>
00:50 -!- willzzz [n=will@cpe-71-79-126-241.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
00:50 <willzzz> i'm trying to setup a linux armagetron-dedicated server
00:50 <Canada> Sorry, cant help im not on a linux
00:51 <Canada> im on Windows Inspiron|9300
00:51 <DrJoeTron> a Dell?
00:51 <Canada> yep
00:51 <DrJoeTron> you should talk to me then
00:51 <DrJoeTron> since im the guy who runs windows servers like a shmuck
00:51 <Canada> what kind of computer does durka have
00:52 <DrJoeTron> fuck if i know
00:52 <Canada> huh
00:52 <DrJoeTron> thats not something i usually ask
00:52 <DrJoeTron> i just assume everyone else here built theirs
00:52 <Durka> back
00:52 <Durka> ok canada whats ur "private ip"
00:52 <Canada> how do i find out my private ip
00:52 <Canada>  i mean
00:53 <DrJoeTron> ghableska spidey tmn later tonight?
00:53 <Durka> first tell me ur public ip
00:53 <Canada> i know what my regular ip is
00:53 <Durka> go to http://whatsmyip.org
00:53 <Canada>
00:53 <Durka> ok now whats ur private ip
00:53 <Durka> go to your internet connections
00:53 <Canada> how do i find out my private one
00:53 <Durka> it might be LAN
00:53 <Durka> go to properties
00:53 <Durka> it should say
00:54 <DrJoeTron> thats not a lan
00:54 <DrJoeTron> address
00:54 <DrJoeTron> he just needs to shut off his firewalls
00:54 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: there are teams in TM?
00:54 <Canada> i shut off my firewalls
00:54 <Canada> still wont work
00:54 <DrJoeTron> shut them off harder
00:54 <DrJoeTron> HARDER
00:54 <Canada> or at least for me its only in the lan part of the game
00:55 <Durka> firewall should be on
00:55 <DrJoeTron> it wont show up on the master server?
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> what are you trying to do?
00:55 <Canada> no, and when i go to lan i cant change any thing, like rubber
00:55 <DrJoeTron> are you using the dedicated server
00:55 <Durka> it doesnt need to be off
00:55 <Canada> but when i turn on my Armagetron Advanced 
00:55 <Canada> yes
00:55 <DrJoeTron> or the client based server
00:56 <Canada> dedicated
00:56 <DrJoeTron> :/
00:56 <Durka> just do what luci said
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> who was asking how to setup a server in linux?
00:56 <Durka> open a command prompt and type
00:56 <Canada> should i download client based
00:56 <Durka> ipconfig
00:56 <DrJoeTron> ghableska as in TM teams as in clans?
00:56 <Canada> Joe, should i download a client based server?
00:56 <DrJoeTron> ghableska trust me, if theres clans in armafuckinggetron theres clans in TM
00:57 <DrJoeTron> fuck no
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> willzzz: you were asking about setting up a server in linux?
00:57 <willzzz> yeah
00:57 <willzzz> i have a dedicated linux server running debian
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> did you find the Server Admin guide on the wiki already?
00:57 <willzzz> yes
00:57 <Canada> yeah, cause client based sucks
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what problem are you having?
00:57 <DrJoeTron> nah thats not the problem
00:57 <Canada> well
00:58 <Canada> people can only go on it when you're online
00:58 <DrJoeTron> its just not dedicated
00:58 <Durka> luci: did you see them?
00:58 <DrJoeTron> thats not always a bad thing :)
00:58 <Canada> and for hells i know prolly only works when your in the server
00:58 <Durka> the "2 things"
00:58 <Canada> :P
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> well yeah, being online is kind of a prerequisite for having a game server online
00:58 <willzzz> well there is no debian pkg for armagetronad-dedicated
00:58 <willzzz> i guess i have to build it myself
00:59 <willzzz> is there a way to build just the dedicated server and not the client?
00:59 <Durka> one sec lemme switch clients
00:59 -!- Durka [n=46215ae5@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC"]
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00:59 -!- Arma53 is now known as Durka
00:59 <Durka> bak
00:59 <Canada> btw, is this irc chat just linked from durka's site or pretty much everywhere?
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> I don't see it durka
00:59 <DrJoeTron> christ i need to clean this keyboard
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> willzzz: yes, that's how the build is setup
00:59 <Durka> everywhere
00:59 <DrJoeTron> hell my server doesnt show up on the master server list
00:59 <Durka> u need an irc client
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> did you try the generic rpm with alien yet?  Or have you fooled with alien at all?
00:59 <Canada> thats what i though
01:00 <DrJoeTron> but the rest of the world does
01:00 <Durka> or u can just access it thru my site
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, our debian packager is MIA right now
01:00 <Canada> mmmhmm\
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> nobody's heard from him in quite some time
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> so the job's open, if you're interested :)
01:00 <Durka> is that subby?
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's klax or k, I forget which
01:00 <willzzz> haven't really done alien yet (done a little but that was following a tutorial)
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> I get those two confused
01:00 <willzzz> anyways im going to try the .package
01:00 <Durka> Luci: go to my site
01:00 <DrJoeTron> heh yeah i do too
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's up to you.  It should build out-of-the-box for you
01:00 <Durka> do you see the 2 things at the top?
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> the dedicated server only needs libxml2, iirc
01:01 <Durka> the IRC Chat and Arma Search things?
01:01 <DrJoeTron> i've noticed that www.swiftparrot.com is like the arma retirement
01:01 <DrJoeTron> home
01:01 <Canada>  
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> so you get the tarball, they're the same tarball, and you ./configure --disable-glout to build the dedicated server
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> then make and make install, obviously
01:01 <willzzz> ok ill build the dedicated server with the options
01:01 <Canada> whats that suppst to mean? swiftparrot?
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> install any libraries it complains about, etc
01:01 <willzzz> it wanted a ton of X stuff (which my server doesn't have)
01:01 <willzzz> so i was like WTF?
01:01 <willzzz> thanks
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> :)
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> it skips all thsoe checks when you configure the dedicated server
01:02 <Canada> oh and by the way....
01:02 <Durka> ya....
01:02 <Canada> 1 second
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: I don't know which two things you're trying to direct me to
01:02 <Canada> gatta find something
01:02 <Durka> the IRC Chat Login and Arma Search
01:02 <Durka> http://ddl.notlong.com
01:02 <Durka> you can't miss them
01:02 <Durka> they're at the top
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> apparently I used the wrong link
01:03 <Durka> lol
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> irc login and search armagetron sites?
01:03 <Durka> Tank should put either 1 or both on the Arma forums
01:03 <Durka> yes those
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> well, post on the forums and ask tank to put them there :)
01:03 <Durka> try them out
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> make a poll, make it as easy as possible for him
01:04 <Durka> kyle made the search
01:04 <Canada> i was trying to download this moviepack but i dont know which folder to put it in specificly
01:04 <Canada> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=6931
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> also, get the url for the online chatlogs wrtlprnft (hi there!) puts up and include it in the search :)
01:04 <Durka> it oonly searchs the armagetron sites
01:04 <Canada> thats a link to the post about the movie pack
01:04 <Durka> kyle will need to do that
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> Canada: did you already read the instructions on the wiki?
01:04 <DrJoeTron> man now i want a light cycle for TMN
01:05 <Durka> canada
01:05 <Canada> no, not about the movie pack if thats what your talking about
01:05 <Canada> what
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> CANADACANADACANADA
01:05 <Canada> what luci
01:05 <Durka> http://durka.freehostia.com/viewtopic.php?p=91#91
01:05 <Durka> go there ^^^
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm talking about the moviepack since I asked what the other problem was and you didn't tell me, so I couldn't help
01:05 <DrJoeTron> i cant go to it
01:05 <DrJoeTron> because its not in color
01:05 <Durka> http://durka.freehostia.com/viewtopic.php?p=91#91
01:05 <DrJoeTron> not in color
01:05 <DrJoeTron> it has to be a color or its not click worthy
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> hi joe
01:06 <Durka> http://durka.freehostia.com/viewtopic.php?p=91#91
01:06 <DrJoeTron> hi luci
01:06 <DrJoeTron> no, i dont like that color
01:06 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: it burns, stop it
01:06 <Durka> CANADA!
01:06 <DrJoeTron> pick Lucifer_arma's color
01:06 <DrJoeTron> i wont click it unless its that color
01:06 <Durka> i still don't know how to use colors oon IRC
01:06 <ghableska> 0xff000?
01:06 <DrJoeTron> lets keep it that way ;)
01:06 <Durka> 0xff0000no
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> do you like this color?
01:07 <ghableska> yes
01:07 <DrJoeTron> YA DOOD
01:07 <DrJoeTron> ISS KIKKEN RAD K?
01:07 <DrJoeTron> RAOFL
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> I can't see the colors, I disabled that in my irc client :)
01:07 <ghableska> heh, nice
01:07 <DrJoeTron> hey i should do that too
01:07 <ghableska> what client do you use?
01:07 <willzzz> ok i installed libxml2
01:08 <willzzz> and when doing ./configure it says
01:08 <DrJoeTron> i use Xchat
01:08 <willzzz> checking for xmlParseMemory in -lxml2... ./configure: line 11981: xml2-config: command not found
01:08 <DrJoeTron> brb
01:08 <Canada> Durka, i downloaded the movie pack to Program files > Armagetron and it still wont work, if thats the wrong folder correct me, but in the wiki you wrote for me, it says thats the right one, and im on a Windows Inspiron|9300 (dell if it matters)
01:09 <Canada> Durka? you there
01:09 <willzzz> i think it's in the '-utils' pkg, ill install that
01:09 <Durka> is there any file in "Program files" that is called Armagetron Advanced
01:09 <Canada> Yes
01:09 <Durka> or something other than just Armagetron
01:10 <Canada> yes
01:10 <Durka> what is there
01:10 <Durka> #armaserverw
01:10 <Durka> oops wrong spelling
01:10 <Durka> #armaservers
01:10 <armabot> Durka: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (9 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! (7 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Norm's Place (5 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (5 players) || Gamma Deathmatch Server (5 players) || Strawberry (1 more message)
01:10 <Durka> #more
01:10 <armabot> Durka: Fields (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (3 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (3 players) || "Joe's garage: FUN FUN FUN! no brakes, only accelerator, high rubber and 180s galore..." (1 players) || AppleZ Arcadium (0 players)
01:10 <Durka> #armaplayers
01:11 <Durka> does that work ^^^
01:11 <Durka> guess not
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> willzzz: yeah, that stuff's usually in a -devel or -dev package.  :)  Not sure about debian, but it's thataway in kubuntu
01:11 <Canada> and it has Config, doc, language, models, resource, sounds, textures, etc... in it
01:11 <willzzz> i run kubuntu on my desktop
01:11 <Durka> #lastseen zman
01:11 <armabot> Durka: razzman has last been seen on icemans network nuke zone - www.icemans.net 3 days 1 hours 31 minutes ago.
01:11 <Canada> who the hell is Razzman
01:11 <Durka> no i mean in the program files folder
01:12 <Canada> i know
01:12 <Durka> #lastseen z-man
01:12 <armabot> Durka: Z-Man has last been seen on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress: Match going on, participants only. 7 days 1 hours 54 minutes ago.
01:12 <Canada> #lastseen >S3D|~Canada
01:12 <armabot> Canada: >S3D|~Canada has last been seen on Dubki.Ru Fortress Server 18 minutes ago.
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen dwh
01:12 <Durka> #lastseen Canada
01:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: _~*|=DWH=|*~_ 5 has last been seen on The Lobster Cage 8 days 19 hours 26 minutes ago.
01:12 <armabot> Durka: >S3D|~Canada has last been seen on Dubki.Ru Fortress Server 19 minutes ago.
01:13 <Durka> luci!
01:13 <willzzz> Lucifer, the doc folder is missing from the source .tar.gz pkg :\
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> I sure hope we've seen the end of those dwh asshats
01:13 <Durka> you know dwh ppl?
01:13 <Canada> lol
01:13 <Durka> i hate then so much
01:13 <Durka> i have their ips
01:13 <Canada> #lastseen Crack
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> willzzz: ?  which one did you download?
01:13 <armabot> Canada: Butcrack man has last been seen on 2020 team challenge 48 minutes ago.
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: you have all of their ips?
01:13 <willzzz> armagetronad-
01:13 <willzzz> latest version stable off sf.net
01:13 <Canada> hey durka, why wont if look for you when i type in crack
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> ah oh.  So did it build, or did it chunk?
01:14 <Durka> type
01:14 <Canada> #lastseen Legit
01:14 <willzzz> ./configure passed
01:14 <armabot> Canada: Legit seems to be on *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! right now.
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: it appears to me that the dwh people are everything we hate about clans
01:14 <Durka> #lastseen Çråçk
01:14 <armabot> Durka: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_general_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation 'like'
01:14 <willzzz> Warning: The configure script decided that, to better work on your system,
01:14 <willzzz>   it would be a good idea to modify files outside of /usr/local
01:14 <willzzz>    during installation or while running. If you disagree, rerun configure with
01:14 <willzzz>     --enable-automakedefaults --disable-useradd --disable-etc --disable-initscripts
01:14 <willzzz>   after consulting "configure --help" for the effects; if you want to get rid
01:14 <willzzz>   of this warning, pass the corresponding opposite switches.
01:14 <willzzz> wtf?
01:15 <willzzz> oh
01:15 <willzzz> just a warning time to build
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> it puts something in /etc/init.d
01:15 <willzzz> that's fine...
01:15 <Canada> #lastseen willzzz
01:15 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has joined #armagetron
01:15 <madmax|pt> hello
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> harmless to all
01:15 <Canada> #lastseen 3dot
01:15 <Lucifer_arma>  /etc/armagetronad-dedicated (or /etc/games/armagetronad-dedicated).  stuff like that.
01:15 <Durka> hi max
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> hi madmax|pt (hi there!) 
01:15 <Durka> #lastseen TuI
01:15 <Canada>  #lastseen hellion
01:16 <Canada> #lastseen pro
01:16 <Durka> dont spam it
01:16 <armabot> Canada: timed out
01:16 <armabot> Canada: °°¯ 3dot °f°	Zd seems to be on *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! right now.
01:16 <armabot> Durka: TuI ~ AngelDu$t has last been seen on  AST Server  |Fortress| 0 days 1 hours 55 minutes ago.
01:16 <armabot> Canada: Egro Proxy has last been seen on ~"XzL.Clan The Server 0 days 1 hours 22 minutes ago.
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen gay
01:16 <Canada> who the hell is egro proxy
01:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: °°Gay-Lin has last been seen on °¯ps arena 0 days 7 hours 49 minutes ago.
01:16 <Canada>  lol luci
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> that's such an awesome bug :)
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> she's totally homophobic
01:16 <Canada>  lol
01:17 <Durka> lol
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> when I see stuff like that, I don't want to see that bug fixed :)
01:17 <Durka> #lastseen quain
01:17 <Canada> Gay-lin : Scared of gays, but the bots think shes gay
01:17 <Canada>  lol
01:17 <Durka> oops speelled it worng
01:17 <Durka> #lastseen qain
01:17 <Canada> #lastseen Queer men
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen vangaynus
01:18 <Durka> thats me
01:18 <Durka> i was vangaynus3 recently
01:18 <Canada> im ganna look for my alt
01:18 <Durka> i think yesterday
01:18 <willzzz> ok my server is building
01:18 <armabot> Durka: timed out
01:18 <armabot> Durka: °°qain has last been seen on 2020 team challenge 0 days 5 hours 17 minutes ago.
01:18 <Canada> #lastseen Cinder
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I use vangaynus every now and then
01:18 <Durka> lol i use vangaynus3
01:18 <willzzz> im also going to build the client on linux (im arch. is x86_64 and there's no bin pkg for that)
01:18 <Canada> #lastseen F|3a
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  there's an autopackage for it, isn't there?
01:19 <willzzz> btw Lucifer, you should have a ubuntu pkg for armagetronad
01:19 <willzzz> ubuntu only has the regular armagetron :\
01:19 <Canada> #lastseen >S3D|~
01:19 <armabot> Canada: timed out
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> volunteers?
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> like I said, the debian guy around here is MIA
01:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: vangaynus3 has last been seen on °¯ps arena 0 days 23 hours 50 minutes ago.
01:19 <armabot> Canada: Cinder has last been seen on  AST Server  |Fortress| 45 minutes ago.
01:19 <armabot> Canada: >S3D|~F|3a has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 60 minutes ago.
01:19 <armabot> Canada: >S3D|~| owned has last been seen on Gamma Deathmatch Server 16 minutes ago.
01:19 <Canada> #lastseen gay
01:19 <armabot> Canada: °°Gay-Lin has last been seen on °¯ps arena 0 days 7 hours 52 minutes ago.
01:20 <Canada> #lastseen mne
01:20 <Durka> <armabot> Lucifer_arma: vangaynus3 has last been seen on °¯ps arena 0 days 23 hours 50 minutes ago. 
01:20 <Canada> #lastseen Acid
01:20 <armabot> Canada: Lamneth has last been seen on Gamma Deathmatch Server 7 days 3 hours 31 minutes ago.
01:20 <armabot> Canada: Acid has last been seen on  AST Server  |Fortress| 49 minutes ago.
01:20 <Canada> #lastseen chicken
01:20 <armabot> Canada: Super Chicken! has last been seen on *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! 0 days 2 hours 9 minutes ago.
01:20 <Durka> can i search for IPs?
01:21 <Canada> i guess
01:21 <Canada> search for mine
01:21 <DrJoeTron> ko
01:21 <Durka> #lastseen
01:21 <Canada> my IP is
01:21 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
01:21 <armabot> madmax|pt: ~"XzL.Clan The Server (10 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (7 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! (6 players) || Norm's Place (5 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (5 players) || Gamma Deathmatch Server (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (4 players) || Tigers (1 more message)
01:21 <Durka> no!
01:21 <Durka> #more
01:21 <armabot> Durka: Error: That's all, there is no more.
01:21 <Durka> type #more max
01:22 <Canada> #themeaningoflife
01:22 <madmax|pt> you can do it Durka :P
01:22 <Durka> dont use color
01:22 <Canada> the bot doesnt know the meaning of life
01:22 <Durka> no i cant
01:22 <DrJoeTron> #spamspamspamspamspamspam
01:22 <Durka> :)
01:22 <Canada> oops
01:22 <DrJoeTron> for fucks sake stop typing in color
01:22 <madmax|pt> yes you do...
01:22 <Durka> #Player 1
01:22 <Durka> oops
01:22 <armabot> Durka: timed out
01:22 <Canada> #lastseen player 1
01:22 <Durka> #lastseen player 1
01:22 <armabot> Canada: Player 1 seems to be on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 right now.
01:22 <armabot> Durka: Player 1 seems to be on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 right now.
01:22 <Durka> i win
01:22 <Durka> should i go kick him
01:22 <Canada> sure lol
01:22 <Durka> why is my server name fucked up
01:22 <Durka> xff9900
01:22 <DrJoeTron> what ever happened to those stupid DWH guys
01:22 <Durka> lol
01:23 <Durka> i hate them
01:23 <DrJoeTron> we all do
01:23 <Durka> i have their IPs
01:23 <Canada> lol
01:23 <Durka> lol
01:23 <Canada> did you bann them
01:23 <Canada> for durka durka land
01:23 <Durka> ya lol
01:23 <Canada> lol
01:23 <Durka> temporary
01:23 <Durka> i think its over though
01:23 <Durka> we need zman to ban them
01:23 <Durka> #lastseen getoveritgirls
01:23 <armabot> Durka: getoveritgirls has last been seen on °¯ps arena 1 days 0 hours 0 minutes ago.
01:23 <Canada> hey just .ban 99999999999999
01:24 <Durka> lol exactly one day
01:24 <Canada>  just ban them for 9999999999999
01:24 <DrJoeTron> i have my ban set to 32 years ;d
01:24 <Canada> lol
01:24 <Canada> lol joe
01:24 <Durka> joe: do u like the irc and search things i added to my site?
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> can't ban dwh
01:24 <DrJoeTron> never seen it
01:24 <Canada> joe your server is the lob cage right?
01:24 <Durka> http://ddl.notlong.com
01:24 <DrJoeTron> yeah
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> as much as I hate them, I think every clan should see them
01:24 <Canada> any other ones
01:24 <Durka> why?
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> so they know why we hate clans, since dwh is like everything we hate about clans bundled into one tight little package
01:25 <Canada> no one goes to the lob cage anymore do they?
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's *why* they're so goddamned annoying
01:25 <Durka> lol
01:25 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma is absolutely right
01:25 <Durka> lobster cage was my 3rd server
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> there's a little dwh is every clan
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> *in
01:25 <DrJoeTron> they are a true example 
01:25 <DrJoeTron> it sucks when they can play and equally be as annoying
01:25 <Durka> lol
01:26 <DrJoeTron> then its just ultra annoying
01:26 <Durka> when have u guys seen them
01:26 <Durka> i know one of them is 7
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, getting killed by someone calling me a noobie boobie is irritating as fuck
01:26 <Durka> another is Slush
01:26 <DrJoeTron> they come in my server every now and then
01:26 <Canada> should i name my server Playboy Place
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> I went into their server one time
01:26 <Durka> luci: they're not good
01:26 <Canada> lol luci
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> got a great ping, it looks like they're on a good server
01:26 <willzzz> lucifer...
01:26 <willzzz> damnit build failed!
01:26 <willzzz> ./configure: line 1480: syntax error near unexpected token `"$ac_dir"'
01:26 <willzzz> ./configure: line 1480: `    _AC_SRCPATHS("$ac_dir")'
01:26 <DrJoeTron> yeah i went there once
01:26 <willzzz> this is for my desktop
01:27 <Canada> #lastseen noobie boobie
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> ahahahaha
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> hang on
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> willzzz: hang on
01:27 <willzzz> k thanks
01:27 <Durka> #lastseen dwh
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=9001
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> willzzz: it would be helpful if you could join that thread :)
01:28 <armabot> Canada: timed out
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> now that this has appeared in the wild (so to speak) we should probably push out a release with a fix, but the fix needs testing
01:28 <Canada> #lastseen  Wrtlprnft
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> you'll need an svn client to test
01:28 <Canada> #lastseen one
01:28 <armabot> Durka: _~*|=DWH=|*~_ 5 has last been seen on The Lobster Cage 8 days 19 hours 42 minutes ago.
01:28 <armabot> Canada: wrtlprnft |mbc| has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 15 hours 37 minutes ago.
01:28 <armabot> Canada: tritone has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} 11 minutes ago.
01:29 <Durka> #lastseen !*_7
01:29 <Canada> lol thats the only person thats been found on lobster cage?
01:29 <DrJoeTron> ive seen more of them there
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen dwh
01:29 <Durka> are u guys fucking with us?
01:29 <DrJoeTron> i saw 1, 4 i think one was 8 or something
01:29 <Canada> #armaservers
01:29 <armabot> Canada: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (15 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! (9 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || Gamma Deathmatch (1 more message)
01:29 <Durka> ??/??????
01:30 <Durka> i think luci and joe are fucking with us
01:30 <Canada> #more
01:30 <armabot> Canada: Server (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (3 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (2 players) || "Joe's garage: FUN FUN FUN! no brakes, only accelerator, high rubber and 180s galore..." (1 players) || Stormcrow's Tower (1 players)
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> it only shows the last one anyway
01:30 <armabot> Durka: timed out
01:30 <Canada> yeah lol
01:30 <Durka> i think luci and joe are one of the dwh ppl
01:30 <Durka> just to show why clans are bad
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> one?  You think luci and joe together make only one dwh?
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: did you see that?
01:30 <DrJoeTron> combined in to one terrible being!
01:30 <Canada> lol
01:30 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: _~*|=DWH=|*~_ 5 has last been seen on The Lobster Cage 8 days 19 hours 44 minutes ago.
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> we must be japanese
01:30 <DrJoeTron> we're like mecha shiva
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> sorry Durka (hi there!) , I just can't see me joining a clan, even to make a point
01:31 <Canada> no ones been on the lob cage for more then a week
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> besides, WPN made that point for me, you just don't see it
01:31 <Durka> no canada
01:31 <Canada> ?
01:31 <Canada> lol
01:31 <Durka> what?
01:31 <Canada> #ladder
01:31 <spidey> omg
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> come on!  how much more annoying can dwh be than a clan called "We Pawn Noobs"?
01:31 <Canada> lol
01:31 <Durka> spidey!!!!!!
01:32 <Durka> spidey was online last seen in fort
01:32 <spidey> i'm ignoring your durka
01:32 <Canada> lets all type in white
01:32 <spidey> and canada
01:32 <Durka> #lastseen spidey
01:32 <Canada> Hello
01:32 <armabot> Durka: spidey |mbc| has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 12 hours 39 minutes ago.
01:32 <spidey> i'm ignoring you both =)
01:32 <DrJoeTron> we need moderators here
01:32 <Durka> why are u ignoring me?
01:32 <spidey> fucking colors
01:32 <Canada> Hey thats not nice spidey
01:32 <Durka> i used it once
01:32 <Durka> twice
01:32 <Durka> sry
01:32 <Canada> just make it so you cant see colors
01:32 <madmax|pt> w t h ...
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> are they using colors?
01:32 <Durka> max!
01:32 <Canada> or something
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know because I turned off colors in my client
01:33 <spidey> i can't disable colors
01:33 <spidey> i need them for another channel
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> wa
01:33 <Canada> get color blind
01:33 <Durka> the porn ascii channel?
01:33  * Lucifer_arma bawls in sympathy for spidey
01:33 <Durka> lol
01:33 <Canada> *thinks lucifer is just sucking up*
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should turn colors on so I can have an excuse to ignore them :)
01:34 <spidey> haha
01:34 <Canada> lol
01:34  * Lucifer_arma always knew jingoistic americans don't understand sarcasm
01:34 <Canada> i dont even know what jingoistic means
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> #dict jingoism
01:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: jingoism n 1: an appeal intended to arouse patriotic emotions [syn: {flag waving}] 2: fanatical patriotism [syn: {chauvinism}, {superpatriotism}, {ultranationalism}]; gcide: jingoism \jin"go*ism\, n. 1. The policy of the Jingoes, so called. See {Jingo}, 2. [Cant, Eng.] [1913 Webster] 2. Hence: A bellicose patriotism; aggressive chauvinism; belligerence in (2 more messages)
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> #more
01:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: international relations. [PJC]; moby-thes: 39 Moby Thesaurus words for "jingoism": Americanism, Anglicism, Briticism, aggression, aggressiveness, antagonism, bellicism, bellicosity, belligerence, belligerency, chauvinism, combativeness, contentiousness, ferocity, fierceness, fight, flag waving, flag-waving, hostility, love of country, martialism, militancy, militarism, nationalism, nationality, (1 more message)
01:35 <Canada> what the hell does arouse mean
01:35 <Durka> where is lobster cage?
01:35 <Durka> its not on the list
01:35 <spidey> you mean those canadian peoples? 
01:35 <spidey> =p
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> #dict arouse
01:35 <DrJoeTron> it should be up
01:35 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Arouse \A*rouse"\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Aroused}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Arousing}.] [Pref. a- + rouse.] To excite to action from a state of rest; to stir, or put in motion or exertion; to rouse; to excite; as, to arouse one from sleep; to arouse the dormant faculties. [1913 Webster] Grasping his spear, forth issued to arouse His brother, mighty sovereign on (7 more messages)
01:35 <Canada> #dict gay
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> Canada's not canadian, he's some guy in DC that worships canada for being such a good copy of the US
01:35 <DrJoeTron> unles that beep on the server means it crashed
01:35 <armabot> Canada: wn, gaz-place, gazetteer, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Gay \Gay\, n. An ornament [Obs.] --L'Estrange. [1913 Webster]; gazetteer: Gay, GA (town, FIPS 32384) Location: 33.09367 N, 84.57400 W Population (1990): 133 (64 housing units) Area: 2.0 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water) Gay, MI Zip code(s): 49945 Gay, WV Zip code(s): 25244; gaz-place: Gay, GA -- U.S. town in Georgia Population (11 more messages)
01:35 <Canada> i know im gay though
01:35 <Canada> lol
01:35 <Durka> its not joe
01:35 <Canada> just kidding you gay ballers
01:35 <Canada> #dict gay baller
01:35 <DrJoeTron> its there
01:36 <armabot> Canada: No definition for "gay baller" could be found.
01:36 <Canada> damnit
01:36 <spidey> ....
01:36 <Canada> *is histarically laughing right now*
01:36 <spidey>  n=Arma53@pool-70-21-33-41.res.east.verizon.net added to ignore list.
01:36 <ghableska> O_o
01:36 <spidey> :D:D
01:36 <willzzz> lucifer, what did you do to fix it?
01:36 <willzzz> eh i have the same versions of automake & conf as you
01:36 <Durka> #lastseen Durka
01:36 <armabot> Durka: Durka has last been seen on *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! 1 minutes ago.
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> you need to get the 0.2.8 branch from svn to check the fix
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> um
01:37 <Canada> #dict genocide
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> yeah :)
01:37 <armabot> Canada: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: genocide n : systematic killing of a racial or cultural group [syn: {race murder}, {racial extermination}]; gcide: genocide \gen"o*cide\ n. The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group; as, the Nazi genocide of Jews left few in Germany or Poland after World War II. Syn: race murder, racial extermination. [WordNet 1.5]; moby-thes: 80 Moby Thesaurus (3 more messages)
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, z-man's first reply to my post contains a fix you can do on the spot
01:37 <Canada> your a gay balling genocider
01:37 <Canada> #dict genocider
01:37 <armabot> Canada: No definition for "genocider" could be found.
01:37 <DrJoeTron> Canada wanna try and not type anymore?
01:37 <Durka> #cyborg Durka
01:38  * Lucifer_arma shows DrJoeTron (hi there!) his ignore button
01:38 <Canada> Sorry joe, im addicted... MUST.... NOT... Type.....
01:38 <spidey> lol
01:38 <spidey> i ignored them along time  ago
01:38 <spidey> =p
01:38 <Durka> #cyborg
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> is spidey talking again?
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> damn, must've changed his hostmask again
01:38 <spidey> ??
01:38 <spidey> o.O
01:39  * Lucifer_arma teases spidey some more
01:39 <spidey> >.>
01:39 <armabot> Durka: D.U.R.K.A.: Digital Unit Responsible for Killing and Assassination
01:39 <Durka> xD
01:39 <DrJoeTron> hmm
01:39 <DrJoeTron> did it work?
01:39 <armabot> Durka: D.U.R.K.A.: Digital Unit Responsible for Killing and Assassination
01:39 <Canada> Oh, see ya gay ballers, im off to play the actual game...
01:40 <willzzz> should i get or 0.3.0?
01:40 <DrJoeTron> have fun trying to get help from us again :)
01:40 <Durka> not 0.3
01:40 <Durka>
01:40 <spidey> DrJoeTron, when @ TMN?
01:40 <DrJoeTron> soon probably
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> willzzz: depends on how much work you want to do.  :)  I'd suggest 0.2.8 for now, because that's the marked stable version
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> 0.3 is pretty unstable :/
01:41 <spidey> .3 has a sync error that causes the pc to freeze
01:41 <spidey> >:|
01:41 <Durka> lol
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> if you go to svn, you should get from the 0.2.8 branch, there's some bugfixes in there that haven't been released yet
01:42 <willzzz> there is goes
01:42 <willzzz> :) 
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> so the fix works?
01:43 <madmax|pt> TMN? that's my mobile phone network
01:44 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
01:44 -!- Canada was kicked from #armagetron by guru3 [Oo]
01:44 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*n=Arma53@*.res.east.verizon.net] by guru3
01:44 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> haha
01:44 <madmax|pt> lol
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> can't you disable colors here?
01:44 <spidey> ./mode #armagetron +c
01:44 <spidey> =p
01:48 <spidey> i need a ash tray =/
01:48 <DrJoeTron> you have a coy fab fir that
01:48 <DrJoeTron> cpu tray for that*
01:48 <spidey> my top desk droor is like
01:48 <DrJoeTron> what the christ did i type?
01:49 <spidey> half full with cigarette butts
01:49 <spidey> xD
01:49 <DrJoeTron> you hick
01:49 <spidey> not really
01:49 <spidey> lol
01:49 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has quit ["leaving"]
01:50 <DrJoeTron> Hi im spidey, heres my droor i use as an ash tray, i also put my dead cat scruffles in as a temporary urn"
01:50 <spidey> o.O
01:50 <spidey> i don't like cats =p
01:50 <DrJoeTron> "one time i sneezed in it"
01:51 <spidey> though my chiuaua is either a rat...or a wanna be cat
01:51 <DrJoeTron> or even a bat
01:51 <DrJoeTron> the way he sat
01:51 <DrJoeTron> on the mat
01:51 <spidey> ....
01:51 <DrJoeTron> though he was a bit fat
01:51 <DrJoeTron> some say he was phat
01:51 <spidey> o.O
01:51 <willzzz> ok now i get this error: 
01:51 <willzzz> <astro73|ubuntu> so use an ogg player
01:51 <willzzz> <BamaWOLF> stupid song title doesn't update on it
01:51 <willzzz> <BamaWOLF> lol
01:51 <willzzz> configure:1480: error: possibly undefined macro: _AC_SRCPATHS
01:51 <willzzz>       If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
01:51 <willzzz>       See the Autoconf documentation.
01:53 <DrJoeTron> alright ghableska spidey track mania time?
01:53 <DrJoeTron> i found out theres a friend list
01:53 <DrJoeTron> hit tab while your playing to see the players
01:54 <DrJoeTron> click on any of them
01:54 <DrJoeTron> then click add to friends list
01:54 <spidey> o.O
01:54 <DrJoeTron> i added you and ghableska so far
01:54 <DrJoeTron> i need mom now
01:54 <ghableska> ooh, nice
01:54 <ghableska> ok, I'm on the server...
01:54 <spidey> which server?
01:54 <DrJoeTron> the same we always go to
01:56 <spidey> i wanna use custom cars
01:56 <spidey> :<
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02:00 <Lucifer_arma> willzzz: is that using the 0.2.8 branch?
02:03 <willzzz> yep
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02:04 <Arma36>  
02:04 <Arma36>  
02:05 -!- Arma36 is now known as cada
02:05 <Lucifer_arma> better post in that thread then, that's your best bet.
02:05 <cada>  
02:05 <cada> i cant change my name
02:06 -!- cada [n=Arma36@pool-71-252-53-48.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit]
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02:06 <Arma54>  
02:06 <Arma54> nick canada
02:06 <Arma54> goddamn
02:07 <Arma54> it wont let me change my name
02:07 -!- Arma54 is now known as cada
02:07 <cada>  
02:07 -!- cada is now known as nir
02:08 <nir> Canada
02:08 <nir> why would it give me my name
02:08 -!- nir is now known as [URL
02:09 <[URL>  
02:09 <[URL> why cant i change my name
02:09 -!- [URL is now known as Crap
02:09 <Crap>  
02:09 -!- Crap is now known as annonymous
02:09 <annonymous> :D
02:10 <annonymous> #dict gay baller
02:10 <armabot> annonymous: No definition for "gay baller" could be found.
02:10 <annonymous> #dict me
02:10 <armabot> annonymous: wn, devils, gcide, vera, and moby-thes responded: vera: ME Mapping Entity; vera: ME Millennium Edition (MS, Windows); wn: ME n : a state in New England [syn: {Maine}, {Pine Tree State}]; gcide: Me \Me\ (m[-e]), pron. One. See {Men}, pron. [Obs.] --Chaucer. [1913 Webster]; devils: ME, pro. The objectionable case of I. The personal pronoun in English has three cases, the dominative, the (3 more messages)
02:10 <annonymous>  #dict blah
02:11 <annonymous> lol
02:11 <annonymous> test
02:11 <annonymous> test
02:12 -!- annonymous is now known as Canada_
02:12 <Canada_> Can anyone tell me why it wouldnt let me sign in as Canada
02:12 <Canada_>  /nick Canada.
02:12 <Canada_>  /nick Canada.
02:14 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as Canada
02:14 <Canada> gee, I don't know
02:14 -!- Canada is now known as Lucifer_arma
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02:31 <ghableska> hi mom
02:35 -!- Canada_ is now known as Canada
02:38 <Your_mom_arma> hi
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02:40 <DudeXVII|Skel> Hi :D
02:40 <DudeXVII|Skel> anyone here?
02:45 <Canada> Hey guys i got a question
02:45 <Canada> Can anyone answer it?
02:46 <DudeXVII|Skel> I came here to ask Questions too :(
02:46 <Canada> could you anwer mine
02:46 <Canada> if you know it
02:46 <DudeXVII|Skel> ill try
02:47 <Canada> My friend has a server but he doesnt know what his server password is, nor where to find it, where can he find it
02:48 <DudeXVII|Skel> not a clue im afraid
02:48 <Canada> damnit
02:48 <Canada> know anyone i can contact?
02:48 -!- Canada [n=Arma54@pool-71-252-53-48.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Bye!"]
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02:49 -!- Arma71 is now known as Canada
02:49 <Canada> You there?
02:49 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma come to tmn with ghab spidey and i
02:49 <Canada> HEy joe
02:49 <DrJoeTron> no
02:49 <Canada>  i have a question
02:50 <Canada> can you please answer it
02:50 <DrJoeTron> none of us "gay ballers" can answer it
02:50 <Canada> please
02:50 <Canada> its serious
02:50 <DrJoeTron> hair growing above your upper lip is natural
02:50 <Canada> My friend has a server, but he doesnt know the server pass word, nor how to find it, how does it get it?
02:51 <DrJoeTron> its in the folder
02:51 <DrJoeTron> read :D
02:51 <Canada> what folder
02:51 <DrJoeTron> fuck if know
02:51 <Canada>  ok... that was very helpful lol
02:51 <DrJoeTron> dedicated server folders
02:51 <DrJoeTron> just look
02:51 <Canada> kk
02:52 <Canada> wait, where can i find that
02:52 <DrJoeTron> :/
02:52 <DrJoeTron> i dont suggest you run a server if you dont know where those are
02:52 <Canada>  its not me running it, my friend
02:52 <Canada> is it under config?
02:52 <DrJoeTron> same goes your friend
02:52 <Canada> ...
02:53 <Canada> what ever, thanks for the info
02:53 <DrJoeTron> its the same fucking dedicated server folder you installed on the pc
02:53 <DudeXVII|Skel> lol good advice
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02:55 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma ping
02:56 <DrJoeTron> :/ dont think he wants to play with us
02:56 <DudeXVII|Skel> :(
02:57 <DudeXVII|Skel> DrJoeTron you know where I can find a guide to changing colour of my bike and trail seperately?
02:58 <Canada> oh
02:58 <Canada> its just different codes
02:58 <Canada> i mean
02:58 <DudeXVII|Skel> ?
02:59 <Canada> but go to Icemans.net and click 
02:59 <Canada> bike and tail colors
02:59 <ghableska_> DrJoeTron: any good maps?
02:59 <Canada> and that might help you
02:59 <Canada> if that doesnt help, come back and ask
02:59 <Canada> though, im triple tasking
02:59 <Canada> so dont expect a immediet answer
03:00 <DudeXVII|Skel> ok ty :D
03:00 <DrJoeTron> uh
03:00 <DrJoeTron> theres a few comming up ghableska 
03:00 <DrJoeTron> i think
03:00 <DrJoeTron> i could by lying
03:01 <DrJoeTron> most likely lying
03:01 <DrJoeTron> be*
03:01 <DrJoeTron> DudeXVII|Skel go to home depot and buy some spray paint
03:01 <ghableska_> DrJoeTron: wanna form a team?
03:01 <DrJoeTron> team?
03:01 <DudeXVII|Skel> lol
03:01 <ghableska_> https://www.trackmanianations.com/indexUk.php
03:02 <ghableska_> if you login, there's a spot for teams...
03:03 <DrJoeTron> oh wow i can log in
03:03 <ghableska_> lol
03:03 <ghableska_> and it shows your buddies
03:03 <DrJoeTron> uh
03:03 <DrJoeTron> i guess i could
03:03 <DrJoeTron> but
03:03 <DrJoeTron> like
03:03 <DrJoeTron> its tmn
03:04 <DrJoeTron> lets wait a week
03:04 <DrJoeTron> and we'll talk
03:04 <ghableska_> ok
03:04 <DrJoeTron> see if you even want to play still
03:04 <DrJoeTron> most likely you wont
03:04 <DrJoeTron> :p
03:04 <ghableska_> :P
03:04 <ghableska_> you never know...
03:04 <ghableska_> hmm, what's the hall of fame?
03:05 <DrJoeTron> don't ask me, i just play the game
03:06 <ghableska_> heh
03:06 <DrJoeTron> i didnt even know you could log in
03:06 <ghableska_> and then get sick of it?
03:06 <ghableska_> haha
03:06 <DrJoeTron> well i play every 6 months 2weeks at a time
03:06 <DrJoeTron> and that does it for me
03:07 <ghableska_> lol
03:07 <DrJoeTron> thats just what happens
03:07 <ghableska_> err
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> Canada: I don't mean to be popping out with RTFM, but the information is on the wiki
03:08 <DrJoeTron> and 2 weeks later its "oh look, another pot reference, oh look boobs...sweet track...i remember playing this months ago..."
03:08 <Canada> lol lucifer, i got the info
03:08 <ghableska_> haha
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03:08 <Canada> lol DrJoe, your just a joker
03:09 <DrJoeTron> not to mention i smell damn fine
03:09 <ghableska_> bye ghableska
03:09 <Canada>  :P
03:09 <ghableska_> crap, how do I change my name again?
03:09 <Canada>  wtf?
03:09 <Canada>  /nick
03:09 <DrJoeTron> don't worry about it
03:09 -!- ghableska_ is now known as ghableska
03:09 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:09 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (7:54 PM CST on November 12, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa. 
03:09 <DrJoeTron> #weather 60016
03:09 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Chicago Palwaukee, Illinois is 37.4°F (7:52 PM CST on November 12, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa. 
03:10 <DrJoeTron> it used to say des plaines :/
03:10 <DrJoeTron> DP love
03:10 <DrJoeTron> eww
03:10 <DrJoeTron> fuck that place
03:10 <Canada> #weather 778837
03:10 <DrJoeTron> land of the trains
03:10 <ghableska> #cnn 60016
03:10 <armabot> Canada: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "778837".
03:10 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Plaines, IL is 36.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Wind: SSE at 8 mph (13 km/h).
03:10 <ghableska> :P
03:10 <DrJoeTron> there we go
03:10 <Canada> #weather 58274
03:10 <DrJoeTron> worst town ever
03:10 <armabot> Canada: The current temperature in Grand Forks AFB, North Dakota is 32.0°F (7:55 PM CST on November 12, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa. 
03:10 <Canada>  north dakota lol
03:11 <DrJoeTron> theres only 2 major roads that arent intersected by trains
03:11 <ghableska> lol
03:11 <DrJoeTron> not funn >:/
03:11 <DrJoeTron> and we have this old temporary bridge
03:11 <DrJoeTron> temporary as in its been there since the early 19th century
03:11 <Canada> #dict cheese
03:11 <armabot> Canada: easton, wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: easton: Cheese (A.S. cese). This word occurs three times in the Authorized Version as the translation of three different Hebrew words: (1.) 1 Sam. 17:18, "ten cheeses;" i.e., ten sections of curd. (2.) 2 Sam. 17:29, "cheese of kine" = perhaps curdled milk of kine. The Vulgate version reads "fat calves." (3.) Job 10:10, curdled milk is meant by the word; (10 more messages)
03:11 <DrJoeTron> fucking fix it guys
03:11 <ghableska> o.0
03:12 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
03:12 <armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
03:12 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
03:12 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
03:12  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
03:12 <spidey> Your current ranking is 559386.
03:12 <spidey> o.O
03:12 <Canada>  #dict Armagetron advanced
03:12 <spidey> erm
03:12 <spidey> didn't guru ban canada?
03:12 <spidey> =/
03:12 <DrJoeTron> i used tobe 1904 in USA
03:12 <DrJoeTron> nah he just kicked himn
03:12 <Canada> lol 
03:13 <spidey> #last --from guru3 --with +b
03:13 <armabot> spidey: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 8768 messages.
03:13 -!- willzzz [n=will@cpe-71-79-126-241.twmi.res.rr.com] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
03:13 <spidey> * ChanServ gives channel operator status to guru3
03:13 <spidey> * guru3 sets ban on *!*n=Arma53@*.res.east.verizon.net
03:13 <spidey> * guru3 has kicked Canada from #armagetron (Oo)
03:13 <spidey> * guru3 removes channel operator status from guru3
03:13 <spidey> pwnt
03:13 <spidey> =p
03:14 <Canada> #weather 72938
03:14 <armabot> Canada: The current temperature in Poteau, Oklahoma is 53.6°F (7:52 PM CST on November 12, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa. 
03:14 <Canada> spidey you really dont like me do you
03:14 <spidey> @weather 38256
03:14 <spidey> #weather 38256
03:14 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 35.4°F (8:14 PM CST on November 12, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa. 
03:15 <Canada>  theres a paris in tennesse?
03:15 <DrJoeTron> spidey
03:15 <DrJoeTron> go learn how to host a game
03:15 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
03:15 <spidey> i would
03:15 <DrJoeTron> erm
03:15 <ghableska> but...
03:15 <spidey> but i think my server hdd just died
03:15 <DrJoeTron> a dedicated
03:15 <Canada> #dict mean
03:15 <armabot> Canada: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: bouvier: MEAN. This word is sometimes used for mesne. (q.v.); gcide: Mean \Mean\, v. i. To have a purpose or intention. [Rare, except in the phrase to mean well, or ill.] --Shak. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Mean \Mean\ (m[=e]n), v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Meant} (m[e^]nt); p. pr. & vb. n. {Meaning}.] [OE. menen, AS. m[=ae]nan to recite, tell, intend, wish; akin (40 more messages)
03:15 <DrJoeTron> ok
03:15 <DrJoeTron> then
03:15 <DrJoeTron> go make one
03:15 <DrJoeTron> and send me the files
03:15 <Canada>  #dict tron
03:15 <DrJoeTron> because i dont feel like learning it
03:15 <spidey> haha
03:16 <DrJoeTron> #dict fucking annoying
03:16 <armabot> DrJoeTron: No definition for "fucking annoying" could be found.
03:16 <spidey> if the cpu/ram usage isn't much i'll host it on the cps
03:16 <spidey> vps
03:16 <Canada> #lastfound gay
03:16 <DrJoeTron> i used to have the files here
03:16 <Canada> wait
03:16 <DrJoeTron> Canada you were kicked for that earlier
03:16 <Canada>  oh sorry
03:16 <Canada> il stop
03:16 <DrJoeTron> ^__^
03:16 <spidey> why isn't canada on ignore anymore?
03:16 <spidey> ....
03:16 <Canada> why do you just chat in red at times
03:17 <spidey> oh i banned by the entire ident. whichh changed
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03:17 <DrJoeTron> my client shows up as black
03:17 <Canada> you guys dont like me lol
03:17 <Canada>  especialy spidey
03:17 <Canada>  lol
03:17 <spidey>  *!*@pool-71-252-53-48.washdc.east.verizon.net added to ignore list.
03:17 <spidey> better
03:18 <Canada> that was me?
03:18 <Canada>  wait, i can add my self to my ignore list.. :D
03:18 <DrJoeTron> how old are you Canada 
03:18 <Canada> young
03:18 <Canada> why
03:18 <Canada> im not 32
03:18 <DrJoeTron> ball park it for me
03:18 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
03:18 <Canada> under 99
03:18 <spidey> wtf's the dedicated server?
03:18 <spidey> gimme link
03:18 <DrJoeTron> well clearly you're inder 32
03:19 <Canada> i could be 98
03:19 <DrJoeTron> spidey let me look it up for you
03:19 <DrJoeTron> nah, you couldn't be
03:19 <DrJoeTron> i
03:19 <DrJoeTron> i'd say 14 at the oldest
03:19 <Canada> i could be a 60 year old gay man... but im not
03:19 <DrJoeTron> because you think the term "gay" is an instant pants wetter
03:20 <Canada> #dict gay
03:20 <spidey> #insult deus_ex 
03:20 <armabot> Canada: wn, gaz-place, gazetteer, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Gay \Gay\, n. An ornament [Obs.] --L'Estrange. [1913 Webster]; gazetteer: Gay, GA (town, FIPS 32384) Location: 33.09367 N, 84.57400 W Population (1990): 133 (64 housing units) Area: 2.0 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water) Gay, MI Zip code(s): 49945 Gay, WV Zip code(s): 25244; gaz-place: Gay, GA -- U.S. town in Georgia Population (11 more messages)
03:20 <armabot> deus_ex - You are nothing but a warped half-mouthful of spongy squirrel. 
03:20 <spidey> 'er
03:20 <spidey> #insult DrJoeTron
03:20 <armabot> DrJoeTron - You are nothing but a boil-brained coagulation of infected dog. 
03:20 <spidey> o.O
03:20 <Canada>  thats what i think gay is
03:20 <DrJoeTron> and is mainly the reason why you're not putting on a very good first impression
03:20 <Canada> #insult spidey
03:20 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a spur-galled gob of thick cat. 
03:20 <DrJoeTron> and you only get one of those ;d
03:20 <spidey> ...
03:21 <ghableska> back
03:21 <DrJoeTron> http://www.gamershell.com/news/27748.html spidey
03:21 <spidey> k
03:21 <spidey> lemme see if the hdd died
03:21 <spidey> :s
03:21 <DrJoeTron> pick your poison for OS
03:21 <DrJoeTron> but if im hosting it get the windows one
03:21 <Canada> DrJoeTron, dont you think it wierd that you have so much to do with Armagetron, but you barely play it?
03:21 <DrJoeTron> do i really?
03:21 <Canada> well
03:21 <DrJoeTron> why wasn't i informed of this
03:21 <Canada> more then i
03:22 <DrJoeTron> i play daily
03:22 <DrJoeTron> for like 5 minutes
03:22 <DrJoeTron> but eh
03:22 <Canada> lmfao
03:22 <DrJoeTron> seeing as i been playing for over 2 years
03:22 <DrJoeTron> i dont find it kind of weird
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> he's an addict
03:22 <DrJoeTron> nah it had to have been longer...
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> you can tell by the binging behavior
03:22 <spidey> erm
03:22 <DrJoeTron> yeah
03:22 <Canada> why would you take the time to get on to armagetron if you only play for 5 minutes
03:23 <spidey> it's bad when a hdd start clicking, right?
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it has to be longer 'cause I've been around here about that long and you were already an old tron fart when I got here
03:23 <DrJoeTron> yeah thats right
03:23 <Your_mom_arma> pong
03:23 <Canada> lucifer how long you been playing
03:23 <DrJoeTron> 2003 is when i started playing
03:23 <Canada> i started 2-3-4 months ago.. lol
03:23 <DrJoeTron> i was 16 then :/
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it has to be longer 'cause I've been around here about that long and you were already an old tron fart when I got here
03:23 <Your_mom_arma> whos canada?
03:24 <Canada> im Canada
03:24 <DrJoeTron> some kid who likes to be kicked from here
03:24 <spidey> i started playing at the same age as joe
03:24 <spidey> :D
03:24 <spidey> 'er maybe i was 15
03:24 <spidey> o.O
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, spidey's only 10, so he's not going to start for 5 more years
03:24 <Canada> #insult canada
03:24 <armabot> canada - You are nothing but a decayed mass of inferior toxic. 
03:24 <DrJoeTron> haha
03:24 <spidey> ....
03:24 <Canada> fun fun fun!!!
03:24 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma we've been playing TMN the whole day
03:24 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:24 <DrJoeTron> and frankly we hate the server
03:24 <ghableska> yep
03:25 <ghableska> we do
03:25 <Canada> #insult Canada
03:25 <armabot> Canada - You are nothing but a contemptible puddle of vain IE. 
03:25 <ghableska> hate the maps
03:25 <spidey> speak for yourself!
03:25 <spidey> =p
03:25 <DrJoeTron> so spidey is going to put together a server for us
03:25 <Your_mom_arma> hey guys night vision... WOAH
03:25 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, wtf that mean o.O
03:25 <DrJoeTron> right spidey
03:25 <DrJoeTron> WOW
03:25 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma it got worse
03:25 <spidey> DrJoeTron, i am?
03:25 <spidey> i'll set it up, you're adding the maps
03:25 <spidey> ggkthnx
03:25 <Your_mom_arma> i only hate about half the maps there
03:25 <DrJoeTron> yeah
03:25 <ghableska> lol DrJoeTron
03:25 <ghableska> I liked that map
03:26 <ghableska> I almost got it :P
03:26 <DrJoeTron> but the crap tracks are in one big bundle
03:26 <Canada> wait anyone know why the **** i cant get this movie pack to work...
03:26 <Canada> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=6931
03:26 <Your_mom_arma> canada check the wiki
03:26 <DrJoeTron> if its not armarocktron im not helping you
03:26 <Canada> can you give me a link?
03:26 <Your_mom_arma> wiki.armagetronad.net
03:26 <Canada> whats armarocktron
03:26 <DrJoeTron> best movie pack ever
03:26 <Canada> i know but which part
03:27 <DrJoeTron> RTFM
03:27 <Canada> its mentat movie pack
03:27 <DrJoeTron> not gonna help you :d
03:28 <Your_mom_arma> did you uncompress it?
03:28 <Canada> uhmm whats compressing it, sorry i should know
03:28 <DrJoeTron> yeah
03:28 <Canada>  and joe is ganna say like if you know how to do that you should go to hell or something lol
03:28 <DrJoeTron> Canada 
03:29 <DrJoeTron> nah i said dont bother
03:29 <Canada> what ever
03:29 <DrJoeTron> which i guess means go to hell in other languages
03:29 <DrJoeTron> but not english
03:29 <Canada> same thing...
03:29 <DrJoeTron> nah
03:29 <DrJoeTron> well if we're gonna play this game
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> joe, why do you hate canada so much?
03:29 <DrJoeTron> dont know it?
03:29 <DrJoeTron> go to hell :)
03:29 <Canada> he hates everyone thats annoying
03:29 <ghableska> Is Canada from Canada?
03:29 <Canada> ':P
03:29 <Canada> no
03:29 <ghableska> oh 
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> nah, he's an american jingo-person
03:30 <Canada> hey luci
03:30 <Your_mom_arma> canada do you understand how a a *.zip file works?
03:30 <Canada> i changed my tag fron Washington Dc to slumberland
03:30 <Canada>  i know how to zip a file
03:30 <Canada> like uhmmm
03:30 <DrJoeTron> how about unzipping
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> I can unzip!
03:30 <DrJoeTron> me too!
03:30 <DrJoeTron> wait
03:30 <Canada> you press the unzippy thingy?
03:30 <Canada>  lol
03:30 <DrJoeTron> ...
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> only problem with unzipping is my cock falling out
03:30 <DrJoeTron> open the file
03:31 <DrJoeTron> drag and drop
03:31 <Canada> lmfao
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's not attached anymore, so that's a real problem
03:31 <Your_mom_arma> well *.tar.gz  is simaler to a *.zip file
03:31 <Canada> ok, should i just redownload it or what?
03:31 <DrJoeTron> you should have fed it Lucifer_arma 
03:31 <Canada> what file do i put it in? Program files > Armagetron?
03:31 <Your_mom_arma> canada you have to un *.tar.gz it
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> I made the mistake of telling my wife some girl she was looking at was pretty cute
03:31 <Canada> whats the arma mean?
03:31 <Canada> why not just Lucifer
03:32 <Your_mom_arma> bad idea luci haha
03:32 <DrJoeTron> haha thats graet
03:32 <Canada> lol
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> change your name to lucifer and find out
03:32 <DrJoeTron> say it to your daughter 
03:32 <DrJoeTron> or children preiod
03:32 <Your_mom_arma> canada do you understand what i just wrote?
03:32 -!- spidey is now known as lucifer
03:32 <Canada> what?
03:33  * Your_mom_arma sighs
03:33 <Canada> sorry i have A.D.D.
03:33 <Your_mom_arma> pgup
03:33 <DrJoeTron> well the text didnt go away
03:33 <DrJoeTron> so dont worry about that
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> Canada: don't make excuses
03:33 <Canada> well i do...
03:33 <lucifer> argh
03:33 <lucifer> joe
03:33 <DrJoeTron> Canada eve hear of trial and error
03:33 -!- lucifer is now known as spidey
03:33 <DrJoeTron> what
03:33 <Canada>  uhmm yeah?
03:33 <DrJoeTron> try it
03:33 <spidey> fuck that
03:33 <spidey> =p
03:33 <DrJoeTron> if it fucks up
03:33 <spidey> that's alot of reading
03:33 <spidey> =/
03:33 <DrJoeTron> oh well
03:33 <spidey> i mean
03:33 <spidey> alot
03:33 <Your_mom_arma> well, what dont you understand
03:34 <DrJoeTron> yeah i spidey i looked at the dedicated server and it melted my brain
03:34 <DrJoeTron> CS:S isnt even that hard to run
03:34 <Canada> but trial and error ends up in me lagging to hell and confused, then i have to redownload stuff that i broke and stuff is missing
03:34 <Canada> and i just...
03:34 <Canada> what the
03:34 <spidey> you know what i say joe
03:34 <Canada> whats a cs:s
03:34 <Your_mom_arma> canada find a program to uncompres it
03:34 <spidey> learn as we go :D
03:34 <spidey> fuck reading :s
03:34 <Your_mom_arma> then i'll help you
03:34 <DrJoeTron> CounterStrike:Source
03:34 <Canada> wouldnt that destroy it?
03:34 <Canada>  like
03:34 <Canada>  mess it up
03:35 <DrJoeTron> ...no?
03:35 <Canada> what?
03:35 <Your_mom_arma> canda stay focused, or do you not need help?
03:35 <Canada>  uhmmm no?
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> did you read the wiki?
03:35 <DrJoeTron> http://www.rarlab.com/
03:35 <DrJoeTron> hop to it
03:35 <Canada> i cant find the wiki why do you keep making links
03:35 <DrJoeTron> thats a uncompressing program
03:35 <spidey> haha
03:35 <spidey> [Sys] Os = Microsoft Windows XP(Service Pack 2)
03:35 <spidey> [Sys] Cpu = Intel ? at ~ 375 MHz
03:35 <spidey> [Sys] Physical memory = 64 Mb
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03:36 <spidey> ...
03:36 <Arma33> god stupid think it just froze it and zapped it
03:36 -!- Arma33 is now known as Canada
03:36 <DrJoeTron> are you running this off of a browser?
03:36 <Your_mom_arma> can't people find the documentation tell us the problem so we can improve the documentation
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> go to the forums and click the link that says "wiki"
03:37 <Canada> yeah i know but which part of the wiki
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> try the search feature?
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> type "moviepacks"
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> see what comes up, eh?
03:37 <DrJoeTron> communist posted!
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03:37 <Lucifer_arma> yes, he did
03:37 <DrJoeTron> :D
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> basically saying "I'm not coming back without goshdarn!  Wa wa, I'm a whiny little totalitarian somethingorother!"
03:38 <Your_mom_arma> i kind of would prefer if darn stayed dead so we can remember it for what it waas
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03:38 <Lucifer_arma> heh, for awhile I thought COmpn was Communist :)
03:38 <Your_mom_arma> was*
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, last thing you want is to go play a new and improved goshdarn and have some WPN guy come in and start talking in tongues
03:38 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:38 <DrJoeTron> haha
03:39 <DrJoeTron> yeah
03:39 <DrJoeTron> oh god
03:39 <DrJoeTron> i remember when Ishadmin came to swampland
03:39 <Canada> it just has how to edit or creat a movie pack, not getting it to work and stuff
03:39 <Canada>  create**
03:39 <DrJoeTron> "joe when did everyon start double binding? :("
03:39 <Your_mom_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Customizing_the_game
03:39 <DrJoeTron> it was like a worker being replaced by a machine at the factory
03:40 <Your_mom_arma> i found that from the index page in 2 clicks
03:40 <spidey> TMDedicatedServer.exe" /game=sunrise /dedicated_cfg=dedicated.cfg /game_settings=MatchSettings/settings.txt /internet
03:40 <spidey> doesn't look to hard
03:40 <spidey> o.O
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03:40 <Your_mom_arma> hey van
03:41 <DrJoeTron> sunrise?
03:41 <DrJoeTron> fuck that
03:41 <spidey> ya i changed it
03:41 <DrJoeTron> we want nations :X
03:41 <Your_mom_arma> joe, i'll try to pm you tell me if you get it
03:41 <spidey> to nations
03:41 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
03:41 <DrJoeTron> ok
03:41 <Your_mom_arma> get anything?
03:41 <DrJoeTron> nope
03:41 <DrJoeTron> are you logged in?
03:41 <ghableska> spidey: are you setting up a server? :P
03:42 <Your_mom_arma> logged in?
03:42 <DrJoeTron> yeah
03:42 <DrJoeTron> to the irc channel
03:42 <DrJoeTron> the whole nickserv deally
03:42 <Your_mom_arma> not really
03:42 <DrJoeTron> thats why
03:43 <Canada> do i have to unzip the file or what...
03:43 <Vanhayes> hello
03:43 <Your_mom_arma> uncompress it yes
03:43 <spidey> ack
03:43 <Canada> how do i do that
03:43 <spidey> i gotta forward 3 ranges
03:43 <spidey> =/
03:44 <Canada> no commentary Joe
03:44 <DrJoeTron> http://en.tm-wiki.org/wiki/TrackMania_Original good luck
03:44 <Canada> that for e?
03:44 <DrJoeTron> nope
03:44 <Canada> ok
03:44 <Canada> dont want to follow wrong link
03:44 <spidey> i'd like to know
03:44 <spidey> do i have to forward UDP or TCP
03:44 <spidey> =/
03:45 <DrJoeTron> no idea :/
03:45 <DrJoeTron> if it does,
03:45 <DrJoeTron> we'll find out the hard way
03:45 <Canada> Your_Mom, how do i uncompress the Moviepack folder?
03:45 <DrJoeTron> open up the folder
03:45 <Canada> im on a windows
03:45 <DrJoeTron> double click on it
03:45 <spidey> how bout i just forward both o.O
03:45 <Canada> mmhmm?
03:45 <DrJoeTron> select all of the contents
03:45 <DrJoeTron> and just drag it
03:45 <DrJoeTron> out
03:45 <Canada> wiith what program? microsoft word?
03:45 <DrJoeTron> word?
03:45 <DrJoeTron> NOOOO
03:45 <Canada> what then
03:46 <DrJoeTron> just click the folder man
03:46 <ghableska> So...
03:46 <DrJoeTron> http://en.tm-wiki.org/wiki/TrackMania_Nations_ESWC even better spidey 
03:47 <spidey> dude
03:47 <spidey> i have 3 more port forward blocks left
03:47 <spidey> =/
03:47 <Canada> Windows cannot open this file. File: Mentat_Noviepack[1].tar.gz
03:47 <Canada> to open this file, windows needs to know what program made it
03:47 <Your_mom_arma> "Your_mom_arma: canada find a program to uncompres it"
03:47 <DrJoeTron> www.rarlabs.com
03:47 <DrJoeTron> click that Canada 
03:48 <Canada> windows can go online and look it up automaticly,
03:48 <DrJoeTron> im pretty sure it can uncompress .tar files
03:48 <Canada> ok
03:48 <Canada> uhmm do i download it or what
03:49 <DrJoeTron> ...yeah?
03:49 <DrJoeTron> no
03:49 <DrJoeTron> look at it
03:49 <DrJoeTron> just stair
03:49 <Canada> uhmmm?
03:49 <DrJoeTron> stare* even
03:49 <Canada> ok il download it
03:49 <Canada> ...
03:49 <DrJoeTron> gah do i need to spoon feed here
03:50 <DrJoeTron> give me 2 seconds
03:50 <Canada> k...
03:50 <ghableska> lol
03:50 <Canada> what? 2 seconds?
03:50 <Canada> im slow on the uptake
03:50 <DrJoeTron> http://www.rarlabs.com/rar/wrar361.exe
03:50 <DrJoeTron> click that
03:50 <DrJoeTron> you should be able to open .ta.gz with that
03:51 <DrJoeTron> if not, at least you can open .rar files
03:51 <DrJoeTron> and zip files
03:51 <DrJoeTron> but im prety sure you can open
03:51 <DrJoeTron> with that
03:51 <Canada> ok thanks
03:52 <Canada> it can do Tar files
03:52 <DrJoeTron> then you're in luck
03:52 <spidey> yay for wordpad
03:52 <DrJoeTron> hows it commin?
03:52 <spidey> well
03:52 <DrJoeTron> spidey try and load the default expert tracks
03:52 <DrJoeTron> cause some of those are extremely fun
03:52 <spidey> reading the helpfile in wordpad = alot better than reading it in notepad
03:53 <spidey> seeing as wordpad supports unix line breaks
03:53 <Canada> ok so what do i do? extract it or what
03:53 <Compn> Lucifer_arma : whats wrong with communism?
03:53 <DrJoeTron> install it
03:53 <Canada> i dont see a compress button'
03:53 <Canada> i did insta it
03:53 <DrJoeTron> open your .tar file
03:53 <Canada> i have selected the movie pack
03:53 <DrJoeTron> just click it
03:53 <Canada> k
03:53 <DrJoeTron> you see the shit in there?
03:54 <DrJoeTron> all of the files etc?
03:54 <Canada> only 2 files
03:54 <DrJoeTron> cool
03:54 <DrJoeTron> select them
03:54 <DrJoeTron> drag them to the desktop
03:54 <DrJoeTron> done
03:54 <DrJoeTron> its uncompressed
03:54 <DrJoeTron> good work
03:54 <Canada> ok
03:55 <DrJoeTron> now put them in the right folders
03:55 <Canada> wait
03:55 <Canada> wheres my desktop where i drap it
03:55 <Canada> drag
03:55 <DrJoeTron> what!?
03:55 <Canada> like where on the screen do i drag it
03:55 <DrJoeTron> Canada how old are you
03:55 <DrJoeTron> just answer that
03:55 <Canada> why?
03:55 <DrJoeTron> ball park it
03:55 <DrJoeTron> 13?
03:55 <Canada> about
03:55 <Canada> why
03:55 <DrJoeTron> so i can speak easier for you
03:56 <ghableska> O_O
03:56 <DrJoeTron> 12
03:56 <ghableska> lol
03:56 <DrJoeTron> are you 12?
03:56 <Canada> im 23
03:56 <Canada> i mean 12
03:56 <Canada> typo for the 23
03:56 <DrJoeTron> do you have a big brother?
03:56 <Canada>  yes, im 12
03:56 <Canada> sister, but she doesnt know any tech stuff
03:56 <Canada> and shes only 14
03:56 <DrJoeTron> but you're the little guy
03:56 <DrJoeTron> ok
03:56 <Canada> yeah
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03:56 <DrJoeTron> well since i know who im dealing with
03:57 <bree86> ello
03:57 <DrJoeTron> heres whatcha gotta do kiddo
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03:57 <ghableska> lmao
03:57 <Canada> mmhmm
03:57 <DrJoeTron> your desktop
03:57 <DrJoeTron> where all of your buttons are
03:57 <Canada> yes?
03:57 <spidey> erm
03:57 <spidey> you gotta have a "dedicated server account"
03:57 <spidey> http://www.trackmania.com/dedicated/indexUk.php
03:57 <Canada> wtf is spidey talking about
03:58 <DrJoeTron> drag all of those folders you just took from the tar file
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03:58 <DrJoeTron> drag them on to your desktop
03:58 <Canada> ok
03:58 <DrJoeTron> im gonna diagram this for you too
03:58 <Vanhayes> spidey: are you getting into another game?
03:58 <DrJoeTron> wheres the movie pack file
03:58 <DrJoeTron> where you downloaded it
03:58 <spidey> not really
03:59 <Canada> when i try to drag them it has the circle with the slash threw it
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03:59 <spidey> i've played this game for awhile
03:59 <DrJoeTron> what!?
03:59 <Canada> Program files > Armagetron Advanced
03:59 <spidey> DrJoeTron, i'm not sure how to do this...
03:59 <DrJoeTron> send me the link 
03:59 <ghableska> Vanhayes: download it :P
03:59 <DrJoeTron> talk to ghab about that
03:59 <DrJoeTron> he knows about logging in than i do
03:59 <ghableska> er, what?
03:59 <Your_mom_arma> #m wrtlprnft master 3 logs are down?
03:59 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: The operation succeeded.
03:59 <ghableska> I don't know what that server account thingy is...
03:59 <spidey> deus_ex, 
03:59 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
03:59 <spidey> The second block of parameters (<masterserver_account>...</masterserver_account>) is used for the connection to master server of the dedicated server.
03:59 <spidey> To allow the server to connect to master server, a login and password, that identify the dedicated server, must be specified.
03:59 <spidey> First this account has to be created. 
03:59 <spidey> To do that, go to: 
03:59 <spidey>     http://www.trackmania.com/dedicated/indexUk.php
03:59 <spidey> although
04:00 <spidey> i don't know my player key
04:00 <spidey> o.O
04:00 <ghableska> login
04:00 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:00 <DrJoeTron> log in
04:00 <ghableska> oooh, wait!
04:00 <ghableska> think I got it, hold on.
04:00 <DrJoeTron> Canada send me that movie pack link
04:00 <spidey> no
04:00 <Canada> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=6931
04:00 <ghableska> go here https://www.trackmanianations.com/indexUk.php
04:01 <spidey> ??
04:01 <Your_mom_arma> ever since firefox upgraded to 1.5 its been crashing constantly
04:01 <Your_mom_arma> anyone else have that problem?
04:01 <DrJoeTron> get 2.0
04:01 <DrJoeTron> i did
04:01 <DrJoeTron> all of the fucking time
04:01 <spidey> you have to have a gamekey
04:01 <spidey> o.O
04:01 <ghableska> login there...
04:01 <DrJoeTron> fuck that
04:01 <spidey> i did login...
04:01 <spidey> what about it??
04:02 <ghableska> try the community code :P
04:02 <spidey> i did
04:02 <spidey> and...
04:02 <spidey> it didn't work
04:02 <spidey> =p
04:02 <ghableska> ah
04:02 <ghableska> ok, I don't know
04:02 <Canada> is it possible to link folders, like how you can link website adresses
04:02 <Canada>  addresses**
04:02 <Vanhayes> hmm, ghableska  what are the requirements for it?
04:02 <ghableska> http://www.tm-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1764
04:02 <Canada> or can you just attach the files via email
04:03 <ghableska> Vanhayes: not sure
04:04 <ghableska> nvm, I found them
04:04 <ghableska> Requirements: 
04:04 <ghableska>  
04:04 <ghableska> · Windows 98/2000/ME/XP 
04:04 <ghableska> · Pentium III 500 MHz 
04:04 <ghableska> · 128 MB RAM 
04:04 <ghableska> · 16 MB 3-D accelerator card compatible with DirectX 9 
04:04 <Vanhayes> same
04:04 <ghableska> · 16-bit sound card 
04:04 <ghableska> · 4x CD-ROM drive 
04:04 <ghableska> · 900 MB available on hard disk 
04:04 <ghableska> · DirectX version 9.0 b (or higher) 
04:04 <Vanhayes> heh
04:04 <Vanhayes> looks like I should be able to run it
04:05 <DrJoeTron> Canada step one fucker, let me know when your ready for step 2
04:05 <Vanhayes> ok, started downloading it, should be done in 10-20 minutes
04:06 <ghableska> start off with the graphics turned down really, really low, lol
04:06 <DrJoeTron> haha is vanhayes gonna play with us?
04:06 <spidey> erm
04:06 <spidey> joe...
04:06 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:06 <spidey> i can't set it up anyways
04:07 <DrJoeTron> because
04:07 <spidey> other box won't run it
04:07 <spidey> =/
04:07 <spidey> it "SEEMS" pretty easy
04:07 <DrJoeTron> learn how to run it
04:07 <DrJoeTron> then teach me
04:07 <spidey> ....
04:07 <DrJoeTron> :D
04:07  * DrJoeTron stupid smile thumbs up!
04:07 <spidey> erm
04:07 <spidey> i'll try this
04:08 <DrJoeTron> Canada it shouldnt take you this long
04:08 <spidey> i'ma run it on my box at my moms house
04:08 <DrJoeTron> are you ready?
04:08 <spidey> lets just hope she doesn't turn it off again
04:08 <spidey> because i had a hard time getting her to turn it back on
04:08 <spidey> "it slows down my internet"
04:08 <spidey> =p
04:08 <Canada> Thanks for the picture
04:08 <Canada> you play guildwars?
04:08 <DrJoeTron> are you ready for step 2?
04:09 <Canada> yes
04:09 <DrJoeTron> ok
04:09 <spidey> #last --from DrJoeTron --with gamer
04:09 <armabot> spidey: [03:19:57] <DrJoeTron> http://www.gamershell.com/news/27748.html spidey
04:12 <spidey> we can try this
04:12 <spidey> though it's gonna suck :D:D:D
04:13 <Canada> spidey am i still on your ignore? lol
04:13 <spidey> DrJoeTron, servername?
04:14 <Your_mom_arma> spidey?
04:14 <spidey> ya?
04:16 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
04:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.39in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM AST; Tonight - Periods of rain ending overnight then cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. Amount 5 to 10 mm. Wind becoming northeast 30 km/h this evening. Low 9.; Monday - Cloudy with sunny periods. 40 percent chance of showers early in (1 more message)
04:16 <Vanhayes> #more
04:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: the morning. Wind east 30 km/h. High 11. Monday night..cloudy. Showers beginning near midnight. Amount 5 mm. Fog patches developing near midnight. Wind east 30 km/h. Low 9 with temperature rising to 11 by morning.; Tuesday - Rain. High 17.;
04:16 <DrJoeTron> Canada you there?
04:16 <DrJoeTron> 
04:16 <Canada> yes
04:17 <spidey> Loading match settings...
04:17 <spidey> ...Match settings loaded
04:17 <spidey> Autostart server on internet
04:17 <spidey> Starting server...
04:17 <spidey> Connecting to master server...
04:17 <spidey> ...OK
04:17 <spidey> Connecting to ladder...
04:17 <spidey> :D:D::D:D:D:D
04:17 <ghableska> :D
04:17 <spidey> ok
04:17 <spidey> look for server
04:17 <spidey> spidey-test
04:17 <spidey> i think
04:17 <spidey> :S
04:17 <DrJoeTron> ko
04:17 <ghableska> Ok.
04:18 <Canada> il try this
04:18 <DrJoeTron> il be there soon 
04:18 <DrJoeTron> if you "try" this it will work
04:18 <ghableska> I'll try...
04:18 <DrJoeTron> i even put fucking photoshop effects for ease
04:18 <DrJoeTron> what the hell is wrong with me
04:19 <ghableska> spidey: I don't see anyting..
04:20 <spidey> =/
04:20 <ghableska> nvm, found it
04:20 <Canada> THANK YOU SO MUCH JOE
04:20 <spidey> =p
04:20 <ghableska> you have to change the "hide private" setting
04:21 <spidey> ???
04:21 <Canada> il see if it works, should i restart my computer or what
04:21 <DrJoeTron> pfft
04:21 <DrJoeTron> no
04:21 <DrJoeTron> just make sure to turn on the movie pack
04:21 <DrJoeTron> if it doesnt show up right away
04:21 <ghableska> ok, now I can't connect to the server :P
04:21 <spidey> :|
04:21 <Canada> how do i turn it on if it isnt auto on
04:21 <spidey> sec
04:22 <DrJoeTron> go under misc stuff in the arma menu
04:22 <spidey> noshit
04:22 <DrJoeTron> and turn movie pack ON if its set to off
04:22 <spidey> i forgot to change the portforward routes
04:22 <spidey> :D
04:22 <DrJoeTron> wait spidey whats it called
04:22 <DrJoeTron> and where is it under
04:22 <spidey> spidey-test
04:22 <spidey> hell if i know
04:22 <spidey> ok
04:22 <spidey> ghab
04:22 <spidey> try again
04:23 <spidey> btw
04:23 <spidey> i can't connect...
04:23 <spidey> because they don't have a "join ip" thingy and my router won't let me connect to my external ip
04:24 <DrJoeTron> i cant find it :/
04:24 <Canada> it isnt working so im ganna restart my computer
04:24 <spidey> ghab did
04:25 <spidey> DrJoeTron, i can do one thing...
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04:25 <DrJoeTron> im going to aska  stupid question
04:25 <ghableska> oh, ok
04:25 <spidey> take the router out, and go direct again =/
04:25 <DrJoeTron> is it under USA ?
04:26 <DrJoeTron> does this mean i can delete my tutorial garbage now?
04:26 <spidey> heh
04:26 <spidey> sec
04:26 <ghableska> I can't find it now
04:28 <ghableska> nvm, found it :P
04:29 <spidey> is it under usa?
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> Compn: I generally don't like republicans
04:32 <spidey> DrJoeTron, Your_mom_arma ghableska is it ok?
04:32 <spidey> o.O
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: it sucks donkey balls
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04:34 <Canada> It still wont work, and my movie pack is turn ON
04:34 <Canada> wierd...
04:35 <Canada> any clue why?
04:36 <Canada> Hello?
04:37 <spidey> well
04:37 <spidey> now i see the server
04:37 <spidey> but i can't connect
04:37 <spidey> fucking router =(
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04:41 <DrJoeTron> you did it wrong
04:41 <DrJoeTron> thats all i can say
04:42 <spidey> eh?
04:42 <DrJoeTron> Canada
04:42 <spidey> ok
04:42 <spidey> restarted
04:42 <spidey> =p
04:42 <spidey> wait
04:42 <spidey> still connecting
04:42 <spidey> o.O
04:42 <DrJoeTron> heh
04:42 <DrJoeTron> now we need to make some tracks
04:42 <spidey> i had to make another user account
04:42 <spidey> because the stupid thing wouldn't let me use the same account for the server and to login to the server list
04:42 <spidey> =/
04:43 <Your_mom_arma> ow
04:43 <spidey> anywho
04:43 <spidey> it's restarted now
04:43 <Your_mom_arma> i hate not being able to play in windowed mode, its too glitchy like that
04:45 <Vanhayes> window mode isnt too bad for me
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04:49 <Legit> luke u ehre?
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05:01 <Canada> Sorry DrJoeTron i was recruiting someone for S3D
05:02 <DrJoeTron> huh?
05:02 <Canada> Icicle
05:02 <DrJoeTron> where at
05:02 <Canada> he wanted to join S3D
05:02 <Canada> ?
05:02 <DrJoeTron> which server
05:03 <Canada> eternal Dystany
05:03 <DrJoeTron> oh
05:03 <Canada> or what ever
05:03 <Canada> why
05:03 <DrJoeTron> then i dont really give a shit ;d
05:03 <Canada> lol
05:03 <Canada> whys it matter lol
05:04 <DrJoeTron> i dont like people recruiting in swamplord servers or lobster cage
05:04 <DrJoeTron> so they're usually banned ld
05:04 <DrJoeTron> ;d*
05:04 <Canada>  whats it matter anyways
05:04 <DrJoeTron> because i dont want filth tracking mud into those places
05:04 <DrJoeTron> make your own fucking server
05:04 <DrJoeTron> and do that garbage
05:04 <Canada> mmmm
05:05 <DrJoeTron> taste good?
05:05 <Canada> kk, so do you have any idea what i did wrong
05:05 <Canada>  for the movie pack
05:05 <DrJoeTron> nope
05:05 <DrJoeTron> because that was pretty fool proof
05:05 <Canada> is there anything that i was suppost to do because this is my first time using a moviepack?
05:06 <Canada> or should i just take a hike... find a new movie pack that i like
05:08 <DrJoeTron> use mine
05:08 <spidey> actually
05:08 <DrJoeTron> i put detailed instructions
05:08 <spidey> he might have non enabled moviepacks?
05:08 <spidey> you know
05:08 <spidey> that ingame option
05:08 <DrJoeTron> i checked
05:08 <DrJoeTron> and he said no
05:09 <spidey> DrJoeTron, make some maps
05:09 <spidey> =p
05:16 <Vanhayes> nice it pls yout snthem when you win
05:17 <GodTodd> wow...that was almost readable hayes ;)
05:18 <Compn> Lucifer_arma : huh? republicans arent communists... and i'm neither for the record ;p
05:19 <Canada> should i delete the Mentat moviepack?
05:20 <Canada> Joe where is your movie pack?
05:21 <DrJoeTron> on the wiki
05:22 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
05:22 <spidey> you won't believe this
05:22 <spidey> you know what the cpu/ram usage for this game is?
05:22 <Compn> it runs semi ok on a 433 celeron
05:22 <spidey> eh?
05:23 <spidey> i mean the server...
05:23 <Compn> what?
05:23 <Compn> oh nm
05:23 <spidey> trackmania server
05:23  * Compn slowly backs away
05:23 <Compn> time for sleep
05:23 <DrJoeTron> what
05:24 <spidey> it uses 5mb ram
05:24 <spidey> and
05:24 <spidey> 0-15% of a 2.2ghz p4
05:24 <spidey> less than tron
05:24 <spidey> o.O
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> Compn: you should pay more attention.  :)  Communist is an old arma player that lives in China
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> who would've core dumped me for what I said
05:24 <spidey> haha
05:25 <spidey> #g 15% of 2.2ghz
05:25 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
05:25 <spidey> ??
05:25 <spidey> #g 15% of 2.2
05:25 <armabot> spidey: 15% of 2.2 = 0.33
05:25 <spidey> 333mhz ?
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> not exactly
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2.2 ghz in mhz
05:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
05:26 <spidey> it's like
05:26 <spidey> sec
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> isn't it 1024?
05:26 <spidey> no
05:26 <spidey>  My Estimated CPU Speed Is: 2193Mhz 
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1024*2.2*0.33
05:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1,024 * 2.2 * 0.33 = 743.42400
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> er
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1024*2.2*0.15
05:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1,024 * 2.2 * 0.15 = 337.92
05:27 <spidey> where's 1024 come from?
05:27 <spidey> o.O
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> well then why aren't you doing 15% of that?
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> #g 0.15 * 2193
05:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.15 * 2,193 = 328.95
05:27 <spidey> ah
05:27 <spidey> so hell
05:28 <spidey> what does tron use?
05:28 <GodTodd> however much it needs to run
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> correct!
05:28  * GodTodd baduptss
05:28 <Compn> Lucifer_arma : ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
05:28 <Compn> Lucifer_arma : dont think i've seen him ;p
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> you probably have, he uses different names now
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> he doesn't play very often, but I've played some very nice fortress games with him
05:30 <Compn> alright ,well night
05:30  * Compn sleeps
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: Your_mom_arma (hi there!) ?
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
05:30 <spidey> eh?
05:30 <Vanhayes> ?
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> last night, I passed out on my floor around 5pm
05:30 <spidey> lol
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> woke up about 6pm and crawled to my bed
05:31 <spidey> haha
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> that's why I wasn't here when y'all were talking about picking up the gme from the previous night
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think there's more than a couple of hours left in it, provided you guys dn't turn and fight each other
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> but if you do that, I'll be happy to ai me and mom again and let you guys fight it out for yourselves :)
05:31 <spidey> heh, i never planned on it =p
05:31 <Vanhayes> ...
05:31 <Canada>  im confused i really want to use the mantat movie pack but it isnt working is there anyway i can get it to work
05:32 <Vanhayes> well I nw=ever planned on it, untill I saw 50 some troops next to mr
05:32 <Vanhayes> me*
05:32 <spidey> lol
05:32 <Vanhayes> and after about 30 hours awake the looked like they were coming for me
05:32 <spidey> ihaha
05:32 <spidey> nah
05:32 <spidey> i put them there so i could build a shitload of transports
05:33 <spidey> figured while i was collecting units i'd harrass you =p
05:33 <Vanhayes> so I yook thr only rational option: i nuked them into oblivion
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05:33 <spidey> well, i'm still building about 30 nukes just incase =p
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05:33 <Vanhayes> heh spidey I guess that sort of back fired on you
05:34 <Legit> manta /join armaserver
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> let's not do this "just in case" crap.  :)  Build what you need to take out the remaining ais
05:34 <Vanhayes> well Id like to start off from the first sve not the other one
05:34 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, eh
05:34 <Vanhayes> well I only built that one nuke so...
05:34 <spidey> i've got what i need
05:34 <spidey> 130+ units
05:34 <spidey> about 20 cities
05:34 <spidey> so
05:34 <spidey> 100 or so to invade with
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, let's take out the remaining ais, and if you want to fight each other afterwards, fine by me.  :)
05:35 <Vanhayes> I would really lke to finish it with us vs ai
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> just say something before we finish the job and I'll save it, that way we get the end of the game for me and mom, and you can have an alternate reality to fight each toher
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm happy it worked out that we allied instead of fought, and we all know there's no reason to break the alliance outside paranoia...
05:35 <spidey> we playing now?
05:35 <Vanhayes> sounds good to me, I dont think ill fight him but never know
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, if Your_mom_arma (hi there!) shows up, sure
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> if not, don't know
05:36 <Vanhayes> man, helicopters might tkae canada out by themselves
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> just try to remember victory conditions are only evaluated at the end of the turn
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> you might finish before the rest of us get there :)
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'm filling two carriers up with bombers and setting up transports over off your coast
05:37 <Vanhayes> heh, mom gets south america, he hasnt done much for fighting
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> or was anyway.  If we restore from the previous save, we might have to finish off africa
05:37 <spidey> i've killed most of the AI's
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, he's kept us teched up, I'd say he's done his job.  :)
05:37 <spidey> it's you guys turn
05:37 <spidey> =p
05:37 <spidey> i'll finish off eruope
05:38 <Vanhayes> it feels right that im the one to destroy canada
05:38 <spidey> lol
05:38 <Vanhayes> plus there are still those dissapointing barbs out there somewhere
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, I wanted to take out babylon myself, but spidey got him :/
05:38 <Compn> that would be nice in defcon
05:38 <Compn> ability to pause/restart game play later
05:38 <spidey> you both waited to long
05:39 <spidey> i wasn't gonna sit around while they attacked me
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> "those dissapointing barbs" are sailing around in the pacific with a few galleons full of shit
05:39 <spidey> your loss =p
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, by the time I could march back out with something to bild that fort, you were already invading
05:39  * Lucifer_arma notes his civ took a long time to heat up
05:39 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: ah, I only saw some off of india, found 2 cities
05:39 <spidey> i really would have liked to build my civ the way i wanted but i had to war the whole time :(
05:40 <Vanhayes> heh, I had a tonne of time
05:40 <spidey> ya next time i'm alling with the AI's :|
05:40 <Vanhayes> the japs attacked 2 times, then I wiped them out
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I would've like to build my civ the way I wanted, but I didn't have shit for room, and the room I did have wasn't very good
05:40 <spidey> or staying at peace
05:40 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma: ping
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> don't forget spidey, bablyon was threatening me too :(
05:40 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, my production was very low
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> it's just that they were the only civ threatening me
05:40 <spidey> very...
05:40 <Vanhayes> spidey: you can only stay at peace for so long
05:41 <spidey> that's why i'm suprised i did as well as i did
05:41 <spidey> plus Vanhayes over here taking the places i wanted to settle
05:41 <spidey> :|
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> I think the ais were crippled by the city_mindistance
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he shouldn't have done that :(
05:41 <DrJoeTron> spidey
05:41 <DrJoeTron> go to your server
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> you guys had an agreement
05:41 <spidey> ok, hold on
05:41 <Vanhayes> well that line got moved by accident and I setteled 2 squares over
05:41 <spidey> 4
05:41 <Vanhayes> no
05:41 <spidey> 4 sqaures =p
05:41 <spidey> i counted :|
05:42 <Vanhayes> count again
05:42 <spidey> i did
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> "hey, I'm sorry, it was a mistake, I know you're having problems, here, you can have the cities"
05:42 <Vanhayes> well by that time he wasnt having problems, he had a tonne of room
05:42 <spidey> well i wanted those places because they where the only close good production places
05:42 <spidey> that room sucked
05:42 <spidey> mostly grass lands
05:43 <Vanhayes> meh, ill gove you 5 cities now if you want
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> spidey's right about that.  The only good production places near the mongols are india, the forests you took, and russia
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> and the spots in india happened to be around those mountains that spidey and I set for our border
05:43 <spidey> i don't want them now
05:43 <spidey> i've worked my way up with russia and babylonian
05:43 <Vanhayes> spidey: you can have everything east of that city in the east you have
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> he had good spots on the north side of those mountains, I don't think he settled them, though
05:43 <Vanhayes> he didnt
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> man, those egyptian cities were badass
05:44 <spidey> indeed
05:44 <Vanhayes> hmm, Id like to play a europe game next I think
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> the zulu cities were shit, only 2 good production cities out of them, the rest are just money cities
05:44 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i settled what i could
05:44 <spidey> the rest was hayes's
05:44 <spidey> the border, ya know
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> he didn't go into those mountains because I asked him not to go any further since I was almost out of room myself
05:45 <Vanhayes> im telling you the big straight border changed, so I setteled 2 squares over by mistake
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> i don't know, maybe when we start it back up we'll see that you did settle what you could there :)
05:45 <spidey> of course it changed
05:45 <spidey> i didn't have cities there
05:45 <spidey> those are the places i wanted cities
05:46 <Vanhayes> well, I guess you shouldnt have waited so long
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> I believe it was a mistake, I don't think you did it maliciously
05:46 <spidey> Vanhayes, i was at war
05:46 <spidey> you wasn't
05:46 <spidey> i had to keep my military production up
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he needed every little shield he had to fight his war
05:46 <Vanhayes> I think i built those cites close to or after 0 bc
05:46 <spidey> which i was still at war
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> spidey was at war since about 2000 bc
05:46 <spidey> we didn't meet mom till later
05:46 <Vanhayes> I guess, anyways sorry
05:47 <spidey> when we met mom = when i picked up pretty fast
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> remember I said the babylonians attacked my city?
05:47 <spidey> ya
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> after that, they started going after spidey's city
05:47 <spidey> well, no
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> they took Khotan
05:47 <Vanhayes> ya ya, I remember they took one of spideys
05:47 <Vanhayes> that was really early
05:47 <spidey> DrJoeTron, come back
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> I tried twice to get some units up there to distract the ai, and both times the damn ai killed them
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> after that, well, let's just say I was sitting on cities with 4-6 shields each, the only thing I could build quickly was warriors
05:48 <Vanhayes> hmm, dont know why but I enjoy premade maps alot better than random
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, me too
05:48 <DrJoeTron> i will in a sec
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> I'm considering writing a python map generator
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> still, one of the reasons I like the premade maps is because they're world geography
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> I think we should consider upping the ai intelligence another level to try to compensate for the city_mindistance thing
05:51 <Vanhayes> ya, what was it this time?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> normal
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I think we should try hard :)
05:51 <DrJoeTron> spidey did you have to authenticate?
05:51 <Vanhayes> thatd be a chalenge, I was a little dissapointed this time
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> also, let's not cluster so close together next time :)
05:52 <Vanhayes> then again I was in a really good spot
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> yep, china's one of the best spots
05:52 <Vanhayes> heh, thatd up the chalenge too
05:52 <Vanhayes> poor GodTodd 
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> there's no way in hell luke should have lost to you way back when, when you were Rome
05:52 <Legit> :-|
05:52 <Vanhayes> ya, but its luke
05:53 <Vanhayes> the "lets all build space ships" guy
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, the challenge was quite a bit uneven, too.  Spidey had two ais within attack range of him, I had one, you had one, and mom had none
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think he'd win that game either.  :)
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> I could be wrong, he certainly has progressed pretty well
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> on the europe map, I'd suggest we max that one out with aifill next time
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> one thing I noticed, with city_mindistance, the ai built roads
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> we need the ai to build roads for us!
05:54 <Vanhayes> ya, they usually dont build many if at all
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> another map that's very challenging is the britain map
05:54 <Vanhayes> hmm, the italy map looks pretty interesting too
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> link?
05:55 <Vanhayes> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/contrib/maps/italy-100x100.gif
05:55 <GodTodd> i don't suppose anyone here knows how to get DSL to recognize integrated wireless in an hp laptop?
05:56 <GodTodd> hrmm...i haven't tried a different driver...probably should try that before asking...nvm
05:56 <GodTodd> heh
05:56 <spidey> DSL?
05:56 <spidey> eh?
05:56 <GodTodd> damn small linux
05:56 <spidey> oh
05:56 <spidey> drivers?
05:57 <spidey> DrJoeTron, auth what?
05:57 <spidey> erm
05:57 <DrJoeTron> nm
05:57 <DrJoeTron> i found the problem
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> I'd want to start in sardinia :)
05:57 <spidey> is it good when a harddrive rattles?
05:57 <spidey> =/
05:57 <DrJoeTron> i have to authenticate the game
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: what's the chipset?
05:57 <GodTodd> spidey: yeah...that means it's working ;)
05:57 <spidey> no
05:57 <spidey> i mean
05:57 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: ummm let me check
05:57 <spidey> like
05:57 <spidey> scratch/rattle combo
05:57 <spidey> it's never did that before =/
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: no, that means it's going bad
05:58 <spidey> ack >.>
05:58 <spidey> so much for a server =/
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: ping
05:58 <GodTodd> scratch/rattle in a hdd is it's way of saying 'you'd better backup soon'
05:58 <spidey> hah
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's how it reminds  you to take regular backups :)
05:59 <GodTodd> haha
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/contrib/maps/north_america_116x100.gif
06:00 <GodTodd> i don't know how many people i've had to explain the obvious to....if it has moving parts, it *will* eventually wear out
06:00 <GodTodd> heh
06:00 <spidey> i know that...
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> luckily my dick has no moving parts
06:01 <spidey> i'd say seeing as it's a 4gig drive, and it was made in 1998
06:01 <spidey> it's about time
06:01 <GodTodd> wasn't referring to you, spidey...just a general observation
06:01 <GodTodd> :)
06:01 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: like what kind of wireless? or cpu chipset?
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> wireless chipset
06:02 <Vanhayes> spidey: ha, sounds like the same thing I have upstairs
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> umm, you got dsl running right now there?
06:02 <GodTodd> it's broadcom
06:02 <GodTodd> no...but i could fire it up windowed
06:02 <GodTodd> when running it live under windows it works fine
06:02 <GodTodd> when booted directly it doesn't recognize it
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> broadcom...  is it 802.11g by any chance?
06:04 <GodTodd> yep
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> ok, good :)
06:04 <GodTodd> 802.11 b/g
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> you need to dig out the two files for the windows drive and stick it on the usb thing with dsl
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> I'm assuming that's how you're running dsl?
06:04 <GodTodd> yeah
06:04 <GodTodd> till i'm comfortable getting wireless going
06:04 <GodTodd> then i'll go full linux
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> you need both the .inf and the .sys file
06:05 <GodTodd> in the win32 stuff i assume?
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> then you need to see if DSL supports ndiswrappers
06:05 <GodTodd> it does
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> yes.  ndiswrappers is a kernel module that provides support to your wireless card using the windows drivers
06:05 <GodTodd> at least thats a config option in the control thingy
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> see if dsl has a nice gui for dealing with it.   :)
06:05 <GodTodd> it does
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> then use it and see what happens
06:06 <GodTodd> i'm not sure how to config it tho :/
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06:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, the way you config ndiswrapper in general is this:
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> run the commandline app to add the windows driver.  It installed to /etc/ndiswrapper
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> then add "ndiswrapper" to modules.conf in /etc
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> the next is distribution specific :/
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> but what you're looking for is a button that says "use ndiswrapper"
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> then a "click here to browse for the windows file"
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> and finally a "click this button to start the network"
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> if you find those three things and the tool works, you should be fine
06:08 <GodTodd> k
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> the rest of the config is automated, ndiswrapper does a damn fine job of configuring itself after that
06:08  * Lucifer_arma has the same wireless chipset
06:08 <GodTodd> yeah...that's why i remembered that...i hear ndiswrapper is da shiznit
06:08 <GodTodd> heh
06:09  * spidey slaps mom
06:09 <spidey> DrJoeTron, ???
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/contrib/maps/british-isles-85x80.gif
06:09 <spidey> you coming or what?
06:10 <spidey> to small
06:10 <spidey> for more than 4 people
06:10 <DrJoeTron> not yet
06:10 <DrJoeTron> im working on shit
06:11 <GodTodd> you're in the bathroom?
06:11 <GodTodd> that's gross
06:13 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: you don't happen to know the names of the inf and sys i need offhand, do you?
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> bcmwl5.sys
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> and the matching .inf file
06:14 <GodTodd> k...found the sys
06:14 <GodTodd> now digging for the inf
06:16 <spidey> DrJoeTron, DrJoeTron DrJoeTron !
06:16 <spidey> i found something
06:16 <spidey> check this out
06:16 <spidey> 'erm
06:16 <spidey> what's my ip?
06:17 <spidey> ok
06:17 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
06:17 <DrJoeTron> huh?
06:17 <spidey> click it!
06:17 <spidey> =p
06:17 <spidey> it's something cool i found in the tmndedicated dir
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: ping!
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> so, if mom doesn't show up, do you guys want to start a new game, or just not play?
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen your_mom
06:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: i'm your mom =) has last been seen on  -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server 2 days 15 hours 11 minutes ago.
06:20 <spidey> DrJoeTron, ?
06:22 <DrJoeTron> i get nothing
06:22 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: hmm, I wouldnt mind trying the italy or britain map
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> I played the britain map with ais and had a lot of fun
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> like the japan map, you're crammed in pretty close together :)
06:23 <spidey> DrJoeTron, try now
06:23 <spidey> i had to port forward the webserver
06:23 <Vanhayes> wait a few more minutes tho, moms probly playing trackmania
06:23 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
06:23 <DrJoeTron> interesting
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06:29 <GodTodd> ok...just to verify..... Lucifer_arma, I just need to /mnt/whatever that inf file from the usb in ndiswrapper, right?
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> umm, that question doesn't make any sense
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> use the gui given, find a prompt that lets you browse a regular file dialog to the .sys/.inf files
06:30 <GodTodd> well...ndiswrapper has you put in the path to the inf file
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> and a button that says "turn it on"
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> installing it into ndiswrapper is the easy part, getting ndiswrapper to load into your kernel can be tricky, although it usually isn't
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> does dsl have freeciv on it?  :)
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06:31 <GodTodd> it has path, device, sid, and wep
06:31 <GodTodd> then "ok"
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I don't know.  :)  did you google "dsl ndiswrapper"?  or "damn small linux ndiswrapper"?
06:38 <GodTodd> no...i've just done dsl and wireless
06:38 <GodTodd> heh
06:38 <GodTodd> question: if a wget stalls...will it pick up again or do you have to restart it?
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> depends on too many things
06:39 <GodTodd> heh...k
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.  The server has to support it, you have to give it the flag, etc
06:39 <GodTodd> trying to dl freeciv for dsl
06:40 <spidey> hrm
06:40 <spidey> windows has "ls" !
06:40 <spidey> =p
06:40 <spidey> F:\>ls
06:40 <spidey>  Volume in drive F has no label.
06:40 <spidey>  Volume Serial Number is F8C8-5FD6
06:40 <spidey>  Directory of F:\
06:44 <GodTodd> grrrr
06:44 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma: PING
06:45 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: Luke-Jr spidey GodTodd want to play a game?
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> would you like to play a game?
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna go grab a smoke real quick
06:46 <Arma58>  
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> if you guys want to play a game, think about what very small changes to basic game you'd like
06:46 -!- Arma58 is now known as Canada
06:46 <Canada>  
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking things like "it would be nice if we had a wonder that <dadada>"
06:46 <DrJoeTron> Canada go to bed
06:46 <DrJoeTron> you're 12
06:47 <DrJoeTron> bed time for bonzo
06:47 <Canada> no school tomarrow
06:47 <spidey> haha
06:47 <Canada> lmfao
06:47 <Vanhayes> ya, what hpliday is tommorow?
06:47 <Vanhayes> holiday*
06:47 <DrJoeTron> no idea
06:47 <Canada> no clue i dont think there is one
06:47 <DrJoeTron> V-J day :p
06:47 <Canada>  its like conferences or something
06:47 <Vanhayes> I know I have no school, but cant remember why
06:47 <spidey> http://localhost/tmn/ListMethods.php
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> or "it's dumb that iron working depends on warrior code"
06:48 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
06:48 <DrJoeTron> im not sure if i have school tommarow or not
06:48 <spidey> i don't have school
06:48 <spidey> =p
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> you need school tom or row, joe
06:48 <Canada>  hey i downloaded Kitchen in Hell movie pack or what ever it is and im ganna see if it works
06:48 <DrJoeTron> cuz usa loosa
06:48 <DrJoeTron> tom or row?
06:48 <spidey> tomm a row
06:48 <spidey> =p
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> I'm giving you a way to remember how to spell it so you don't read like a hick
06:48 <Vanhayes> spidey: you never have school
06:48 <DrJoeTron> You do as well, Lucifer_arma.
06:49 <Canada> if it doesnt work, then the movie pack gods dont like me
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> *annoying hick
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> or you didn't read the docs
06:49 <Canada> IT WORKED
06:49 <DrJoeTron> Say "hi" to Oscilloscope for me while you're there.
06:49 <Canada> YAY
06:49 <Vanhayes> nah, blame god 
06:49 <spidey> Vanhayes, i'm special that's why =p
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> better yet, blame luke.  Blame someone who might aactually be real
06:50 <Vanhayes> well its 50/50 there
06:50 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma what gauge shot gun is that?
06:50 <Vanhayes> I think he is just a bot that is programed to dissagree with an and everyconverstion it hears
06:51 <DrJoeTron> he's like Johnny 5
06:51 <spidey> lol
06:51 <Your_mom_arma> pong
06:52 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma: want to play that civ game?
06:52 <spidey> zomgwtfhax mom's here!
06:52 <spidey> =p
06:53 <Vanhayes> zed, its pronounced zed
06:53 <spidey> ??
06:53 <spidey> zed ?
06:53 <Vanhayes> yes
06:53 <Vanhayes> well done
06:53 <spidey> wtf's zed
06:53 <spidey> i was playing this defcon game
06:53 <Vanhayes> z is a zed
06:53 <spidey> and it was 4vs2
06:54 <spidey> so i joined the team with 2 on it
06:54 <Vanhayes> huh?
06:54 <spidey> and the other guy said "uncool, very uncool", and i said it was uneven so i evened the teams out
06:54 <spidey> he said, that's like saying it's wrong to be gay, and being gay
06:54 <spidey> wtf's that mean o.O
06:55 <Your_mom_arma> i guess
06:55 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, your job is to take south america out =p
06:55 <Vanhayes> i guess you a homophobic homo
06:55 <Vanhayes> your*
06:55 <Vanhayes> thats all I got from it
06:55 <spidey> heh
06:56 <GodTodd> you're
06:56 <GodTodd> :P
06:56 <spidey> lol
06:56 <spidey> pwn
06:57 <Vanhayes> bah, ' are overrated
06:58 <GodTodd> ' take the place of letters we're too lazy to put in ;)
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> h'all
07:00 <spidey> i don't understand that
07:00 <spidey> i mean
07:00 <spidey> you're replacing "a" with " ' "
07:00 <spidey> you're or you are
07:00 <spidey> not much difference o.O
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> your momma dont think so
07:01 <spidey> lol
07:01 <GodTodd> then you get y'all
07:01 <spidey> you mean your mom'a ?
07:01 <spidey> =p
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> so, are we going to start that game again t'night?
07:01 <GodTodd> saves a whole keystroke ;)
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, anne rice was right about one thing.
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> L'etat is a vampire
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: Vanhayes (hi there!) ?
07:03 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: (hi there back!)
07:03 <Your_mom_arma> pong
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> ponge
07:03 <Vanhayes> that too
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> *poang
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> hours pray, rest yourself.liberty, to wander uncontrolled in the air, like a wild bird, underthe love of Helena.
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> shepherd's daughter.thought, or a soul. Enough, said Benedick I am engaged I willshepherd and shepherdess they feigned to be yet sometimes Ganimed
07:04 <Vanhayes> ?
07:04 <DrJoeTron> brb
07:05 <Vanhayes> well im ready to start anytime
07:05 <Vanhayes> #last --with davef
07:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 10696 messages.
07:05 <Vanhayes> #last --with dave
07:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: [07:04:08] <Vanhayes> #last --with davef
07:05 <Vanhayes> lsmr
07:05 <spidey> lol
07:05 <Your_mom_arma> davefancella.com
07:05 <Vanhayes> wow lmsr was supposed to be lame
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> started
07:06 <GodTodd> hayes...you really really need new fingers
07:06 <GodTodd> heh
07:06 <Vanhayes> im looking, but they cost so much
07:06 <GodTodd> steal some
07:06 <GodTodd> :)
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08:05 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: i know it does. DOS predates windows, too :P
08:07 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: they work for me…
08:25 <Your_mom_arma> #realchatlogs
08:25 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
08:26 <Your_mom_arma> it dies on the 11'th
08:27 <wrtlprnft> oh
08:28 <wrtlprnft> php: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
08:28 <wrtlprnft> grrmpf, that's why
08:29 <wrtlprnft> need to run revdep-rebuild
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09:06 <DrJoeTron> bwoah guy
09:06 <DrJoeTron> god*
09:06 <DrJoeTron> im so dead inside
09:07 <DrJoeTron> spidey how lucky do you feel about finding a Track mania key gen
09:07 <spidey> dunno
09:07 <DrJoeTron> one that doesn't have a key logger attached :d
09:07 <spidey> trackmania oringanol?
09:07 <DrJoeTron> yeah
09:07 <spidey> why o.O
09:08 <DrJoeTron> i found out about the custom cars and the avatars
09:08 <DrJoeTron> they dont show up unless you are authentication key
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09:12 <DrJoeTron> you get authentification keys by either buying Trackmania sunrise or the original
09:12 <DrJoeTron> so all we need is the keys
09:13 <spidey> well
09:13 <spidey> i'll look in a bit
09:13 <spidey> after we finish freeciv
09:18 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma 
09:19 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma this how we will do our band
09:19 <DrJoeTron> http://www.zappinternet.com/?video=fodCyoDmiV
09:36 <Vanhayes> well, that was a good game
09:36 <Your_mom_arma> haha joe
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> we should consider resurrecting that last save game as a wargame
09:37 <spidey> heh
09:37 <spidey> i have tons of bombers and missles in eurasia
09:37 <spidey> lots of units to
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, we'd have to spend a few turns getting units situated a bit differently
09:37 <Vanhayes> I have a few, most of mine are in america
09:37 <Vanhayes> ended with around 250 troops
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> as it stands right now, whoever takes the first shot wipes someone out almost immediately, so we'd want to spend a few minutes taking regular turns and rearranging the home areas a bit more defensively
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> not too much, but a bit
09:38 <Vanhayes> it should keep track of how many you lose
09:38 <Your_mom_arma> i had no military units other then the tanks and rifelmen defending my cities
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> I ended with a lot, at the end I had enough production to support a long and drawn out campaign in america
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> I had 3 more transports headed and could have kept loading them indefinitely, as long as I was losing troops in america, that is
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> which was guarnateed, since once I take a city I rehome all the units near it :)
09:39 <Vanhayes> heh, ya I was doin that too
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> readies shields for more production at home, distributes the load, etc
09:39 <Vanhayes> doing*
09:39 <DrJoeTron> well i went to the gym and worked out with state troopers at 1am
09:39 <DrJoeTron> and it was extremely awkward
09:39 <Your_mom_arma> haha
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> it matters!  especially if you have like 4 cities supporting the whole thing
09:40 <Vanhayes> hmmm, what were they doing there at 1 am?
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> they can only support so many units before they can't produce any more
09:40 <spidey> eh
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> buying pot?
09:40 <spidey> i had one city that supported about 15 units
09:40 <spidey> or more
09:40 <Your_mom_arma> at a gym?
09:40 <spidey> it also had a 2 production
09:40 <spidey> xD
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, so?  I had several just like that
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> see, that's my point.  :)
09:40 <spidey> but it didn't have factories
09:40 <spidey> so >:p
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> if you rehome them, you free up the maintenance shield, and in commie you get the first 3 units for free
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> wa wa, doesn't matter if you have factories or not, you still rehome your units when you take a city :)
09:41 <Vanhayes> ya vanland had a tonne on it, huge food there but low prod, I just moved troops from high prod cities there
09:41 <spidey> erm
09:41 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
09:41 <spidey> what version of trackmania sunrise?
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> if you rnew city can't produce shit, only rehome what's covered for free
09:42 <DrJoeTron> any of them
09:42 <DrJoeTron> so long as it has a authetication key
09:42 <DrJoeTron>
09:42 <DrJoeTron> try this out
09:42 <spidey> http://www.gamecrax.com/game_pages/Trackmania:.Sunrise.ALL.+1.TRAINER.rar.htm
09:42 <Your_mom_arma> i got to level 1 then got bored lat time i played that joe
09:42 <spidey> it's a crack
09:42 <spidey> not a serial
09:43 <DrJoeTron> we need a serial
09:43 <Your_mom_arma> what for?
09:43 <spidey> why?
09:43 <spidey> a crack would do..
09:43 <spidey> besides all a crack is, is a patch that includes the key
09:45 <DrJoeTron> the key is for TMN
09:45 <spidey> well wtf
09:45 <spidey> you said tm or tms
09:45 <spidey> :|
09:45 <DrJoeTron> well duh
09:45 <spidey> Name: Trackmania Sunrise S/N: KRXMDXGXCNX4BNXFWJJ
09:46 <DrJoeTron> 10 bucks its taken
09:47 <DrJoeTron> This key has already been used for an account authentification.
09:47 <DrJoeTron> bastards
09:48 <spidey> nice
09:48 <spidey> i found a keygen
09:48 <spidey> but firefox crashed
09:49 <spidey> haha
09:49 <spidey> that sucked
09:50 <spidey> find your own damn keygen
09:50 <spidey> =p
09:50 <DrJoeTron> thats what history is for
09:50 <DrJoeTron> ko thanks anyways :D
09:50 <DrJoeTron> GUYS
09:50 <spidey> i have to go back and clean up some spyware and possibly trojans now
09:50 <DrJoeTron> GUYS
09:50 <DrJoeTron> HAI
09:50 <DrJoeTron> GAY BALLERS
09:50 <spidey> WHAT 
09:50 <spidey> ./ignore DrJoeTron
09:51 <DrJoeTron> fucking dwh guys are at it again
09:51 <DrJoeTron> they're all in my server
09:51 <DrJoeTron> :/
09:51 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma what should i do about them? 
09:51 <spidey> rofl @ !update.exe
09:51 <spidey> i like that
09:51 <Vanhayes> I like how spidey aswered to gay ballers
09:51 <spidey> ?
09:51 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
09:51 <spidey> i didn't...
09:52 <spidey> <DrJoeTron> HAI
09:52 <spidey> <spidey> WHAT 
09:52 <spidey> <DrJoeTron> GAY BALLERS
09:52 <spidey> <DrJoeTron> HELP ME INSTALL MY MOVIE PACK
09:52 <spidey> <spidey> ./ignore DrJoeTron
09:52 <Vanhayes> <DrJoeTron> GAY BALLERS
09:52 <Vanhayes> <spidey> WHAT 
09:52 <spidey> learn to read
09:52 <spidey> you're lagging
09:52 <spidey> =)
09:52 <DrJoeTron> no it showed up like that for me too
09:52 <spidey> then i'm lagging :D
09:52 <Vanhayes> meh, on my screen you admitted to being a gay ballers
09:52 <DrJoeTron> ;D
09:52 <spidey> asdkljslkjdfl;df
09:53 <spidey> i get the feeling these are gonna be somee more shit that takes 2 months to remove
09:54 <DrJoeTron> thats why i had you do it ;d
09:54 <spidey> find your own shit for now on =p
09:55 <DrJoeTron> http://housecall65.trendmicro.com/ try this spidey
09:57 <Your_mom_arma> why that wasnt a very good episode of metalocolypse at all
09:57 <Your_mom_arma> mabey the worst episode
09:58 <DrJoeTron> thats why i didnt talk to you about it
09:58 <DrJoeTron> because it wasnt funny at all
09:58 <Your_mom_arma> haha
09:58 <DrJoeTron> and there was nothing to quote
09:58 <DrJoeTron> nothing is gonna top "laughing hurts more" for me
09:58 <Your_mom_arma> i want reruns
09:58 <DrJoeTron> i do too
10:00 <DrJoeTron> i need to get rid of my bed
10:01 <DrJoeTron> so i can fit my new drum kit in
10:01 <DrJoeTron> god its so cool
10:01 <spidey> that sucks
10:01 <spidey> anyways
10:01 <DrJoeTron> nah i never sleep in it
10:01 <spidey> if ad-aware se and spybot s&d + avast can't find it
10:01 <spidey> nothing can
10:01 <DrJoeTron> the couch we have is so amazing to sleep in
10:02 <DrJoeTron> then you have nothing
10:02 <DrJoeTron> i use housecall for antivirus
10:02 <spidey> eh?
10:02 <spidey> i do have something
10:02 <DrJoeTron> the link i sent you
10:02 <spidey> no
10:02 <DrJoeTron> why dont you do it in safemode?
10:03 <spidey> lol
10:03 <DrJoeTron> or reformat the fucker :D
10:03 <spidey> i don't have a cd...
10:03 <spidey> i do but it's a barebone install
10:03 <spidey> and i'm not using that
10:03 <DrJoeTron> because its so hard to get one right?
10:03 <spidey> i use it for older computers =p
10:03 <spidey> yes actually
10:03 <spidey> :|
10:03 <DrJoeTron> ...
10:04 <DrJoeTron> not really
10:04 <DrJoeTron> it's pretty easy
10:04 <DrJoeTron> www.demonoid.com get to it
10:04 <spidey> you gotta have a account for that
10:04 <DrJoeTron> so make one
10:04 <spidey> plus the iso isn't what i can't get
10:04 <spidey> it's invite only
10:04 <DrJoeTron> let me try and send you an invite
10:05 <spidey> well
10:05 <spidey> i don't care
10:05 <DrJoeTron> here
10:06 <spidey> i'm installing process gaurd and rebooting
10:06 <DrJoeTron> well i just sent you an invite
10:10 <spidey> why
10:10 <spidey> does everyone
10:10 <spidey> use "spidey"
10:10 <spidey> that's my name dammit!!!
10:14 <DrJoeTron> well your name is pretty predictable
10:15 <DrJoeTron> im suprised i can get my name
10:15 <DrJoeTron> its so generic
10:15 <spidey> ...
10:15 <Vanhayes> the only place I founf my name was on the armagetron forums
10:16 <DrJoeTron> i was suprised i got mine on SA
10:16 <Vanhayes> Dr Joe?
10:16 <DrJoeTron> Dr. Joetron
10:16 <DrJoeTron> considering theres 86.000 names on that board
10:16 <DrJoeTron> 86,000*
10:16 <Vanhayes> heh
10:17 <Vanhayes> hmm, in this channel id say spidey is the most generic by far
10:18 <spidey> hardly
10:18 <Vanhayes> #google fight spidey manta 
10:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
10:18 <spidey> lucifer is more generic than mine
10:18 <Vanhayes> stupid google
10:18 <Vanhayes> ya but there is no Lucifer here
10:18 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
10:18 <Vanhayes> ya but there is no Lucifer here
10:19 <spidey> _arma don't count, it's _arma because.....lucifer is taken
10:19 <Vanhayes> thats Lucifer_arma 
10:19 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
10:19 <spidey> the same with mom
10:19 <spidey> i doubt luci would sign up on some forum out side of tron with " Lucifer_arma "
10:19 <spidey> =p
10:19 <Vanhayes> ya but since they have that _arma, they arent as generic as you
10:20 -!- spidey is now known as spidey_arma
10:20 <spidey_arma> zomg i'm not generic anymore!
10:20 <spidey_arma> because i added _arma to my name
10:20 <spidey_arma> =)
10:20 <Vanhayes> well its a little becuse there are 3
10:20 <spidey_arma> ...
10:20 <Vanhayes> Id say your still pretty for up there on generic
10:21 <Vanhayes> #google fight spidey_arma  Vanhayes 
10:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
10:21 <Vanhayes> stupid google
10:21 <spidey_arma> hrm
10:21 <spidey_arma> i wonder what would happen if i deleted my dllcache folder
10:21 <Vanhayes> it would be gone?
10:22 <spidey_arma> i have a question
10:22 <Vanhayes> I have an answer
10:22 <spidey_arma> do you know what sarcasm is....or do canadians not have that up there?
10:24 <Vanhayes> sarcasm is that thing where you say something in a condescending tone right?
10:24 <Vanhayes> no we dont have that up here
10:24 <spidey_arma> figures
10:25 <spidey_arma> and no, sarcasm is like
10:25 <spidey_arma> "i'ma stab Luke-Jr"
10:25 <spidey_arma> i say it
10:25 <spidey_arma> but i don't mean it
10:25 <spidey_arma> e.g a joke
10:25 <Vanhayes> thats called a empty threat up here
10:26 <Vanhayes> and Ive never heard sarcasm defined like that before
10:26 <spidey_arma> you're canadian
10:26 <spidey_arma> you don't have sarcasm there
10:26 <Vanhayes> Good job, i mean not many people could figure out im canadian, its not like I even told you or anything
10:27 <Vanhayes> thats sarcasm
10:29 <Vanhayes> actually thats a little patronizing too
10:30 <spidey_arma> ?
10:30 <DrJoeTron> http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/10/wii-hands-on-unboxing/ :D i needs it
10:30 <spidey_arma> this really sucks
10:31 <DrJoeTron> what
10:31 <spidey_arma> explorer.exe thinks it can eat 100% of my cpu cycle
10:31 <spidey_arma> brb
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10:31 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma that censor bar doesnt look too much of an eye sore
10:35 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I have signed up for forums under the name Lucifer_arma
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10:40 <Vanhayes> #night
10:40 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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10:59 <Your_mom_arma> btw found an article saying twighlight princess was coming out for camecube in retail stores dec 13
10:59 <Your_mom_arma> gamecube even
11:02 <Your_mom_arma> the wii version comes out november 19
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11:11 <spidey> well
11:11 <spidey> appearently i can't run the windows gui
11:11 <spidey> #last --nolimit
11:11 <armabot> spidey: [11:10:05] <spidey> appearently i can't run the windows gui, [11:09:58] <spidey> well, [11:01:25] <Your_mom_arma> the wii version comes out november 19, [10:58:38] <Your_mom_arma> gamecube even, [10:58:22] <Your_mom_arma> btw found an article saying twighlight princess was coming out for camecube in retail stores dec 13, [10:39:24] <Vanhayes> #night, [10:33:50] <Lucifer_arma> actually, I have signed up for (50 more messages)
11:12 <spidey> #more
11:12 <armabot> spidey: forums under the name Lucifer_arma, [10:30:44] <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma that censor bar doesnt look too much of an eye sore, [10:30:10] <spidey_arma> brb, [10:30:02] <spidey_arma> explorer.exe thinks it can eat 100% of my cpu cycle, [10:29:57] <DrJoeTron> what, [10:29:35] <spidey_arma> this really sucks, [10:29:26] <DrJoeTron> http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/10/wii-hands-on-unboxing/ :D i needs it, [10:29:11] (49 more messages)
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15:25 <wrtlprnft> yay!
15:25 <wrtlprnft> physics test = 13 points :)
15:26 <GodTodd> hopefully thats out of like 15 ;)
15:27 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it is
15:27 <wrtlprnft> it's the way you're marked in germany
15:28 <GodTodd> i figured :)
15:28 <GodTodd> congrats :)
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15:29 <wrtlprnft> 14 = very good, 11 = good, 8 = satisfactory, 5 = fair, 3 = imperfect, 0 = insufficient
15:29 <wrtlprnft> as far as i can translate it :P
15:29 <wrtlprnft> thanks
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15:31 <GodTodd> #g 13/15
15:31 <armabot> GodTodd: 13 / 15 = 0.866666667
15:31 <GodTodd> 87....not bad at all
15:31 <Ady7> #g 0.5/0.5
15:31 <armabot> Ady7: 0.5 / 0.5 = 1
15:31 <Ady7> :P
15:33 <GodTodd> hrmmm...didn't know that java is being GPLed
15:33 <wrtlprnft> they're talking about it all the time
15:33 <wrtlprnft> note that 13 points is more than 90%, really :P
15:34 <GodTodd> no...they're releasing code this morning
15:34 <GodTodd> more than talk
15:34 <wrtlprnft> oooh
15:34 <GodTodd> http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,20757.shtml
15:36 <GodTodd> that should give credence to the open source community :)
15:36 <Luke-Jr> #last --with luke --nolimit
15:36 <armabot> Luke-Jr: [10:24:10] <spidey_arma> "i'ma stab Luke-Jr", [08:04:26] <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: i know it does. DOS predates windows, too :P, [06:48:39] <Lucifer_arma> better yet, blame luke.  Blame someone who might aactually be real, [06:43:50] <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: Luke-Jr spidey GodTodd want to play a game?, [05:51:26] <Vanhayes> ya, but its luke, [05:51:15] <Lucifer_arma> there's no way in hell luke should have lost to (2 more messages)
15:37 <Luke-Jr> #more
15:37 <armabot> Luke-Jr: you way back when, when you were Rome, [04:48:10] <Legit> luke u ehre?, [00:05:49] <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr: get a source tarball and look in the doc directory at the file called HACKING, [23:45:17] <spidey> luke gimme a blank cd, [18:48:29] <Lucifer_arma> and that's the straw that breaks the camel's back, and luci and luke get together for the first time without an argument, and rewrite armaspy advanced to use (1 more message)
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16:01 <Canada> #armaservers
16:01 <armabot> Canada: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
16:01 <Canada> #armaserver
16:02 <Canada> #lastseen Durka
16:02 <armabot> Canada: Durka has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 0 days 8 hours 8 minutes ago.
16:02 <Canada> hmmmph
16:14 <DrJoeTron> you cant just get on arma and look yourself?
16:21 <DrJoeTron> spidey ping
16:21 <DrJoeTron> spidey wake up stoopid
16:32 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *mom* the logs should be fixed now.
16:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
16:32 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft whatcha fix?
16:33 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: they weren't updated because my PHP was broken
16:33 <DrJoeTron> ah
16:36 <Canada> Ello guys
16:36 <Canada> Hello**
16:37 <Canada> #insult Canada
16:37 <armabot> Canada - You are nothing but a low-quality gob of rude-snouted pond. 
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16:39 <Canada> Anyone wanna do Fortress.... not 2020's though, my ping sucks there
16:40 <Canada> im ganna troll the forums, see ya
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16:47 <DrJoeTron> fuck no
16:51 <wrtlprnft> lo
16:51 <wrtlprnft> l
16:53 <Canada> Thanks for info on Cycle width
16:53 <Canada> hasnt come yet though, has it?
16:54 <wrtlprnft> no
16:55 <wrtlprnft> but there's a development branch that contains some of the features it will have
16:55 <wrtlprnft> and it's merged into the branch that will become 0.3.1 once in a while
16:55 <Canada> So what else other than Cycle Width is there going to be, main highlights
16:56 <wrtlprnft> well, there will be ph's new zone stuff
16:56 <wrtlprnft> scripting support
16:56 <Canada> and when you do server settings, will you be able to change the Cycle Width?
16:56 <wrtlprnft> yep
16:56 <Canada> good
16:56 <wrtlprnft> there's also support for different CYCLE_DELAY settings for cunsecutive turns into the same direction or into different dirs
16:57 <wrtlprnft> so you can have a smaller delay for left-right (adjust) than left-left (double back)
16:57 <Canada> i bet a lot of servers will have really low cycle width, because they like how it was before... it would suck to play on a rubber server and have a big CYCLE_WIDTH
16:57 <wrtlprnft> the default width is 0
16:57 <wrtlprnft> that's a requirement for stuff to be in must be well documented, default to the old behavior or be a pure bugfix
16:58 <Canada> cycle delay is what determines how close your walls will be when you do a double bind or what? sorry i havnt made a server yet
16:58 <wrtlprnft> how fast you can turn
16:58 <Canada> eh, yeah
16:58 <wrtlprnft> what the minimum time is between two turns
16:59 <Canada> brb im trying to upload my sig and avatar on image shack, brb'
17:00 <Canada> Have you ever used Gimp
17:00 <Canada> i want to get rid of my back round but dont know how
17:00 <wrtlprnft> i use it
17:00 <wrtlprnft> what background?
17:01 <Canada> look on the forums
17:01 <Canada> i want to get rid of the blue backround
17:01 <Canada> and resize it so that there isnt so much acsess backround
17:02 <wrtlprnft> use the crop tool?
17:02 <Canada> ok
17:02 <Canada>  brb
17:02 <DrJoeTron> gimp for suckers
17:03 <DrJoeTron> for the lose man
17:03 <wrtlprnft> nope
17:03 <wrtlprnft> paint/psp/photoshop is :P
17:03 <DrJoeTron> photoshop is awesome :D
17:04 <DrJoeTron> and mspaint is a god among men
17:04 <Canada> but photo shop costs, gimp is free
17:04 <wrtlprnft> yep
17:04 <DrJoeTron> not when you have access to the internet
17:04  * DrJoeTron **
17:04 <wrtlprnft> and photoshop doesn't really have any features i'm willing to pay for
17:04 <wrtlprnft> not even to illegally download stuff
17:04 <wrtlprnft> sorry, if you wanna use it and it costs, either don't use it or pay.
17:04 <DrJoeTron> i love it
17:05 <Canada> cause its way better to illegally download stuff than buy it.. lol
17:05 <DrJoeTron> when you're a poor college student
17:05 <DrJoeTron> sure is
17:05 <Canada> lol
17:05 <DrJoeTron> i gotta buy a new case
17:05 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: they do have discounts for college students if you *really* need it
17:06 <DrJoeTron> yeah but its educational versions
17:06 <DrJoeTron> i'm already educated on photoshop
17:06 <wrtlprnft> if you were someone really poor in some 3rd world country i'd understand if you didn't pay for it
17:06 <wrtlprnft> otherwise, use gimp or help make it better.
17:07 <DrJoeTron> good thing im not looking for your approval :d
17:07  * wrtlprnft wonders if he should send adobe a link to the chat logs
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17:10 <DrJoeTron> this just in from MsPaint
17:11 <DrJoeTron>
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17:11 <DrJoeTron> nothing could ever beat the mightyness of mspaint
17:11 <DrJoeTron> :D
17:12 <Canada> lol joe
17:12 <DrJoeTron> come on, its got the spray paint tool
17:12 <luke-jr_work> KolourPaint
17:13 <Canada> well i made [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/6958/canadasig1ml7.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
17:13 <Canada> oops let me re do that
17:13 <DrJoeTron> nope
17:13 <DrJoeTron> wont let you
17:13 <Canada> http://img284.imageshack.us/my.php?image=canadasig1ml7.jpg
17:14 <Canada> there
17:14 <Canada> :D
17:14 <DrJoeTron> me eyes
17:15 <DrJoeTron> the goggles
17:15 <DrJoeTron> they do nothing!
17:16 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: anyways, i think Canada's artwork is better than the blank page with “connecting to remote host” i get if i wanna see your image
17:16 <DrJoeTron> i turned it off and deleted the picture already
17:16 <luke-jr_work> lol
17:17 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft question 
17:17 <wrtlprnft> o well
17:17 <wrtlprnft> still better than Canada
17:17 <wrtlprnft> err
17:17 <wrtlprnft> still Canada's is better
17:17 <DrJoeTron> What has been the most expensive you have broken?
17:17 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron answer
17:17 <wrtlprnft> most expensive what?
17:17 <DrJoeTron> most expensive thing*
17:17 <wrtlprnft> umm, need to think about that
17:18 <DrJoeTron> :)
17:18 <luke-jr_work> anyone know of a software TV-B-Gone?
17:18 <wrtlprnft> nothink expensive recently, anyways
17:18 <DrJoeTron> well in your life
17:18 <wrtlprnft> and nothing beyond repair ever
17:18 <wrtlprnft> *nothing expensive beyond repair
17:18 <DrJoeTron> but broken never the less
17:19 <DrJoeTron> so nothing?
17:20 <DrJoeTron> not even popped bubble wrap?
17:20 <DrJoeTron> hell, most expensive thing i've broken was my transmission
17:21 <DrJoeTron> let a leak go untouched and the fluid drained out :/
17:21 <DrJoeTron> so i lost 3rd and 4th gear
17:21 <DrJoeTron> max speed was a blazing 35mph :D
17:21 <wrtlprnft> o_O
17:22 <DrJoeTron> i only payed 500 for the car
17:22 <DrJoeTron> and i got 450 when i sold it
17:22 <DrJoeTron> so... i did alright
17:22  * wrtlprnft doesn't have one and doesn't want one anytime soon
17:22 <DrJoeTron> dollars
17:22 <DrJoeTron> i need one
17:22 <Canada> it wont let me save my image
17:23 <DrJoeTron> my school is 8 miles away
17:23 <wrtlprnft> just too expensive, with fuel and insurance and repairs and everything and we've got really good public transport here
17:23 <wrtlprnft> that's not far, go by bike
17:23 <DrJoeTron> no way
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17:23 <DrJoeTron> this doesnt include traffic
17:23 <Canada> it says unknown file type
17:24 <wrtlprnft> traffic?
17:24 <DrJoeTron> yeah
17:24 <DrJoeTron> traffic??
17:24 <wrtlprnft> what do you care about traffic if you're on a bike?
17:24 <Canada> anyone know why i cant share my picture?
17:24 <DrJoeTron> stop lights?
17:24 <wrtlprnft> Canada: need to specify the extension, like .png
17:24 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:24 <luke-jr_work> stop lights can be ignored on bike
17:25 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: uh, those are active whether there's a lot of traffic or not?
17:25 <Canada> uhmmm, but it wont let me even save it in to anything, or anything like that
17:25 <Canada> i cant even paste it into word
17:25 <DrJoeTron> theres a billion of them is what im saying
17:25 <wrtlprnft> work around them, use parks and other public stuff that doesn't have traffic lights
17:25 <wrtlprnft> and these lights affect you in a car as well
17:25 <DrJoeTron> its a straight shot to the school on high way
17:25 <DrJoeTron> yeah, but not as bad
17:25 <Canada> get a car damnit, stop complaining
17:25 <DrJoeTron> because im going faster than 15mph
17:26 <wrtlprnft> has one
17:26 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron, so ignore the stop light
17:26 <luke-jr_work> bikes don't need to stop at em
17:26 <Canada> if you have a car why ride your bike?
17:26 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: i don't think he's suicidal
17:26 <DrJoeTron> i should
17:26 <DrJoeTron> canada you're 12
17:26 <Canada> so
17:26 <DrJoeTron> someday you'll learn
17:26 <Canada> your poor? and cant afford 60 dollar gas?
17:26 <luke-jr_work> wtf
17:26 <DrJoeTron> you're*
17:26 <luke-jr_work> who pays $60 for gas?
17:27 <DrJoeTron> yeah seriously
17:27 <luke-jr_work> $30 gets me a full tank
17:27 <Canada> everyone
17:27 <Canada> what ever thats still pretty much
17:27 <DrJoeTron> is it like incrested with diamonds?
17:27 <wrtlprnft> so there's no public parks or fram tracs or whatever?
17:27 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:27 <DrJoeTron> fram tracs?
17:27 <DrJoeTron> nah
17:27 <wrtlprnft> farm tracls
17:27 <wrtlprnft> farm tracks
17:27 <luke-jr_work> gas here swings between $1.93 and $2.07
17:27 <DrJoeTron> nope
17:27 <luke-jr_work> per gal
17:27 <Canada> gas incrested with diamonds... sounds fun
17:27 <DrJoeTron> live in dence residential wrtlprnft 
17:28 <wrtlprnft> #g 2.07 usd per gallon in euros per litre
17:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 2.07 (U.S. dollars per US gallon) = 0.425619665 Euros per litre
17:28 <DrJoeTron> gas is pricey here
17:28 <DrJoeTron> seeing as its fucking chicago
17:28 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: i do
17:28 <wrtlprnft> that's nothing
17:28 <wrtlprnft> it's like 1.20 € per litre here
17:28 <Canada> joe,  why do you ride a bike if you have a car
17:28 <DrJoeTron> well yeah, you guys pay by the lire
17:28 <DrJoeTron> litre*
17:28 <DrJoeTron> Canada i think you need to go into school early 
17:29 <DrJoeTron> reading skills are a bit off
17:29 <Canada> ?
17:29 <DrJoeTron> its 2.23 right nowper gal
17:29 <Canada> i can read godamnit
17:29 <DrJoeTron> obviously not well enough
17:29 <wrtlprnft> Canada: there might be other reasons that convinience. getting in a car to go some 14 kilometres is just sick,
17:29 <DrJoeTron> scroll up
17:29 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, ouch
17:29 <DrJoeTron> yeah really
17:30 <luke-jr_work> #g 1.20 euros per litre to USD per gal
17:30 <DrJoeTron> thats brutal
17:30 <armabot> luke-jr_work: 1.20 (Euros per litre) = 5.8361965 U.S. dollars per gal
17:30 <Canada> ok but if you never drive the car, why get one
17:30 <DrJoeTron> WOw
17:30 <DrJoeTron> canada
17:30 <DrJoeTron> you fail again
17:30 <wrtlprnft> well, about 80% of it is all sorts of taxes
17:30 <luke-jr_work> same here I bet
17:30 <DrJoeTron> it is here too
17:30 <DrJoeTron> "taxes"
17:30 <DrJoeTron> thanks for the price gouging jerks
17:31 <luke-jr_work> $5.836 is just way too much per gal :o
17:31 <DrJoeTron> yeah no kidding
17:31 <DrJoeTron> i hear hawaii pays 14.00 per gal
17:31 <Canada> just buy a car at eastern motors where they beat you up if you arnt doing the right thing... i mean really who would want to go to a place where you get beat up for doing the wrong thing
17:31 <Canada> thats cheap
17:31 <Canada> isnt it
17:31 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:31 <Canada> well
17:32 <DrJoeTron> i'm not going to pretend i know what your talking about
17:32 <Canada>  compaired to 60 $ to fill it up
17:32 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: well, it should be that high, or better higher, IMHO
17:32 <luke-jr_work> 14 yen/gal would be cheap
17:32 <Canada> lol im dilusional
17:32 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, you're crazy
17:32  * wrtlprnft wouldn't mind gas prizes going up to 5€/l
17:32 <luke-jr_work> insane
17:32  * DrJoeTron seconded
17:32  * luke-jr_work wants a steam-powered car ;p
17:33 <wrtlprnft> ask z-man, he'll say the same
17:33 <Canada> how aout make gas 100$ per litre while your at it, and no one will polute the world again
17:33 <luke-jr_work> free fuel!
17:33 <DrJoeTron> i want the hoverboard from back to the future
17:33 <luke-jr_work> pfft
17:33 <DrJoeTron> itl will be powered by my own sense of self satisfaction :D
17:33 <Canada> lmfao
17:33 <DrJoeTron> ...it will never float
17:33 <wrtlprnft> Canada: that's a lot, there are times when you do need a car
17:33 <Canada> like when]
17:33 <wrtlprnft> to transport heavy stuff from/to shool, for example
17:33 <Canada> use hybrids
17:33 <wrtlprnft> no fun on a bike
17:33 <wrtlprnft> still use gas
17:34 <Canada> so
17:34 <luke-jr_work> to drive to work!
17:34 <Canada> then pay 100$ for all i care
17:34 <luke-jr_work> and church!
17:34 <Canada> ride the metro
17:34 <DrJoeTron> Canada doesn't quite know thge value of a dollar yet ;d
17:34 <Canada> or ride a bus where you arnt paying for the gas
17:34 <luke-jr_work> gotta drive to get to the metro?
17:34 <luke-jr_work> either that or walk up the hill -.-
17:34 <Canada> no you dont
17:34 <wrtlprnft> Canada: if i ride a bus i still pay for the gas
17:34 <Canada> lazy...
17:34 <luke-jr_work> you're paying for the gas one way or another...
17:34 <Canada> how
17:35 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:35 <DrJoeTron> uh
17:35 <DrJoeTron> duh?
17:35 <luke-jr_work> Canada is officially dumb
17:35 <Canada> well you could trick people into paying for it
17:35 <DrJoeTron> no
17:35 <DrJoeTron> you DO pay for it
17:35 <DrJoeTron> well you technically dont
17:35 <Canada>  im not dumb im dilusional, or for all you know i could be playing the devil advicate
17:35 <DrJoeTron> you're 12
17:35 <DrJoeTron> you dont pay taxes
17:35 <luke-jr_work> lol
17:35 <luke-jr_work> around here, metro costs $1
17:35 <DrJoeTron> 1.75 here
17:35 <luke-jr_work> where do you think that money goes?
17:36 <DrJoeTron> they keep jacking the price up
17:36 <luke-jr_work> where the metro is "free", you'll pay with taxes
17:37 <Canada> buy a year long metro pass for roughly 999$ and then you wont have to pay the equivilent to 20,000 $ of gas over the year
17:37 <DrJoeTron> you're still paying for it
17:37 <DrJoeTron> you're PAYING for SOMETHING
17:37 <luke-jr_work> Canada, you're still paying for gas ;p
17:37 <Canada> not as much
17:37 <luke-jr_work> so?
17:37 <DrJoeTron> biab
17:37 <Canada> then the world would be free, but the metro would be packed
17:37 <DrJoeTron> gotta get to class 
17:37 <Canada> see ya Joe
17:38 <luke-jr_work> Imma just invent a teleporter and keep it to myself
17:38 <luke-jr_work> :o
17:38 <Canada> i know packed, i havce gone to france quite a few times
17:38 <Canada> good luck with that...
17:38 <luke-jr_work> it's easy if you use uranium...
17:38 <Canada> main metro was shut down so everyone packed on to a little one and someone almost fell out
17:39 <Canada> yeah, but where are you going to get uranium
17:40 <luke-jr_work> buy it off some terrorists
17:40 <luke-jr_work> =p
17:40 <Canada> yeah, but hwere are you going to get uranium
17:40 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:40  * luke-jr_work makes Canada radioactive
17:40 <Canada> yeah, but im radio active
17:40 <Canada> lol
17:41 <Canada> how do you like not talk but do that
17:41 <Canada> #emo
17:41 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:41 <Canada>  Canada - your an Emo
17:41 <wrtlprnft> can you stop the colors,