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Log from 2006-11-09:
--- Day changed Thu Nov 09 2006
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> fcukfcuk has quite a potty mouth. 60.7% words were foul language.   <--- wrtlprnft (prick) wins finally
00:00 <guru3> Oo
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, wrtlprnft (prick) is fcukfcuk
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> hi guru3 (prick) 
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> I love this tab completion thing.  I want it in arma now :)
00:00 <ghableska> uk has joined #Armagetron.
00:00 <ghableska> :     Age has signed off IRC ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)").
00:00 <ghableska> fcukfcuk:     YOU ALL SUCK DICK
00:00 <ghableska> fcukfcuk:     er.
00:00 <guru3> D:
00:00 <ghableska> heh
00:01 <ghableska> I love this chat history
00:01 -!- Niii [n=Niii@lnr56-1-82-246-48-71.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Quitte"]
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> so, the Democrats win in the midterm elections and the President has to fire Rumsfeld.  It almost looks like the US government is going in a good direction.
00:04 <Ady> *Datos descargados: 2.13 GB Tiempo de ejecución: 8:24 Horas*
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> I hope this is a sign the Democrats have managed to get their shit together after Kerry gutted the party
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> es no bueno por caca, amigo
00:04 <Ady> #translate spanish to english es no bueno por caca, amigo 
00:04 <armabot> Ady: it is nongood by poop, friend
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> my mexican buddy at the junkyard translated it as "is no good for shit, dickhead"
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> how he figued amigo was spanish for dickhead is quite beyond me to work out
00:05 <ghableska> haha
00:06 <ghableska> maybe a missing accent? ;)
00:06 <Ady> #g 8:24 h in seconds
00:06 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:06 <Ady> #g 8,3 hours in seconds
00:06 <armabot> Ady: 8,3 hours = 29,880 seconds
00:06 <Ady> #g 2.13 gb in kb
00:06 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:07 <Ady> #g 2.13 Gb in Kb
00:07 <armabot> Ady: 2.13 gigabits = 2,233,466.88 kilobits
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2.13 GB in KB
00:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.13 gigabytes = 2,233,466.88 kilobytes
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2.13 GB in B
00:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:07 <Ady> #g 2.233.466/30000
00:07 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2.13 GB in bytes
00:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.13 gigabytes = 2.28707009 * 10^(9) bytes
00:07 <Ady> #g 2233466/30000
00:07 <armabot> Ady: 2,233,466 / 30,000 = 74.4488667
00:07 <Ady> s74 kb/s average download rate
00:07 -!- nowimproved [n=nowimpro@bb-66-63-118-224.gwi.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> #g pi * lucifer's ass radius
00:08 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:08 <Ady> lol
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, I guess google doesn't know everything after all
00:08 <Ady> #g 1gb in nanobits
00:08 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:08 <Ady> #g 1gb in nanobit
00:08 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:08 <Ady> whats ur ass radius?
00:10 <Ady> im 6.06 feet height
00:12 <Ady> are you working on some other project than armagetron
00:16 <luke-jr_work> /kick Ady 
00:17 <Ady> ...
00:17  * Ady has been kicked by luke-jr_work.
00:20 <Ady> http://youtube.com/watch?v=gb1Z9VU_Yco
00:22 <luke-jr_work> sucks
00:22 <Ady> yeh
00:23 <Ady> http://www.dalealplay.com/informaciondecontenido.php?con=650
00:23 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:24 <Ady> offf and check this http://www.dalealplay.com/informaciondecontenido.php?con=13349
00:27 <madmax|pt> #lastseen webgamer
00:28 <armabot> madmax|pt: timed out
00:28 <Vanhayes> #lastseen V:
00:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: V:a:n:h:a:y:e:s seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
00:29 <ghableska> um
00:29 <madmax|pt> Van gone wild
00:30 <Ady> #night
00:30 <armabot> Good night Ady!
00:31 -!- Ady [n=ady@244.Red-83-51-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
00:31 <Vanhayes> V:a:n:h:a:y:e:s : Commited suicide
00:32 <Vanhayes> Love confusing the newer people with that
00:33 <madmax|pt> lol
00:34 <madmax|pt> can you check the last time a certain player was on a specific server?
00:35 <Vanhayes> hmm, dont think so
00:35 <Vanhayes> not unless that was the last server they were on
00:36 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
00:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12 players) || Super Duck Fortress! (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || armagetron.nixda.net (Original) (5 players) || Gamma Deathmatch Server (4 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (4 players) || Norm's Place (3 players) || Shrunkland in (1 more message)
00:36 <Vanhayes> argh no regular fort
00:40 -!- SuPeRTaRD [i=blah@adsl-71-145-140-186.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:41 <madmax|pt> Super Duck?
00:42 <madmax|pt> #serverdetails super duck
00:42 <armabot> madmax|pt: Super Duck Fortress!: Players (8/16): -=}ÎЪ °ÃÏÐîcT°, eggcozy, Matthew, Perdio, Player 1, sly foxx, wipeout, ~*SP*~joda.bot
00:43 <Vanhayes> my mistake
00:44 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo super
00:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Super Duck Fortress!: Players (8/16): -=}ÎÏ«°ÂÐÏïbT°, <<freakful1>>, eggcozy, Matthew, Perdio, Player 1, Sticky, ~*SP*~joda.bot
00:51 <madmax|pt> #lastseen [Xpert]DarkStar 
00:51 <armabot> madmax|pt: timed out
00:57 <Vanhayes> #lastseen [
00:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Missing "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
00:57 <Vanhayes> #lastseen" ["
00:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: No closing quotation
00:57 <Vanhayes> armabot: You suck
00:57 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)]
00:57 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:58 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 68.0°F (4:54 PM CST on November 08, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa. 
00:58 <luke-jr_work> #lastseen "["
00:58 <armabot> luke-jr_work: calou[french] has last been seen on Strawberry Fields 1 minutes ago.
00:58  * luke-jr_work can handle it =D
00:58 <Vanhayes> shh
01:00 <Vanhayes> #uberinsult
01:00 <armabot> You are luke-jr
01:00 <ghableska> lmao
01:02 <madmax|pt> haha
01:03 <Vanhayes> ya Ive been saving that one for a while, I was hoping somone(really hoping luke-jr) would use it out of curiosity
01:03 <ghableska> #insult
01:03 <armabot> You are nothing but a dread-bolted mound of tofu-nibbling snake.
01:06 <Vanhayes> #insult
01:06 <armabot> You are nothing but an infected mass of fobbing Sun.
01:06 <Vanhayes> #insult spidey 
01:06 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a crook-pated bucket of gorbellied waste. 
01:06 <guru3> good night all
01:06 <Vanhayes> night
01:06 <ghableska> 'night
01:06 <ghableska> "fobbing Sun?"
01:06 <Vanhayes> hmm fobbing sun
01:06 <Vanhayes> ha
01:06 <Vanhayes> knew that looked wrong
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: does vanhayes sleep with women?
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: do vanhayes sleep with women?
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: doooooooooo
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: scooby dooby dooooooooooo!!!!!!!
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do you say anything besides no?
01:11 <armabot> no
01:11 <Vanhayes> armabot: do NO
01:11 <armabot> no
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: do not say yes
01:12 <ghableska> Armabot: do you not say anything besides no?
01:12 <armabot> no
01:12 <armabot> no
01:12 <ghableska> lol
01:12 <Vanhayes> #list
01:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
01:12 <Vanhayes> #list web
01:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote
01:13 <Vanhayes> #google slowcoaster 
01:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.19 seconds: House of Rock - Slowcoaster: <http://www.houseofrock.ca/slowcoaster.php>; House of Rock - News: <http://www.houseofrock.ca/>; New Music Canada Artist: SLOWCOASTER: <http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=11024>; Slowcoaster Home: <http://www.maplemusic.com/artists/slw/default.asp>; www.myspace.com/ slowcoaster: (2 more messages)
01:14 <Vanhayes> heh HOR
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2006/11/08/ap3156393.html
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> this is a pretty damn close election
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> what it means is that neither party has majority support, of course
01:22 <madmax|pt> does anyone know Noddy?
01:22 <madmax|pt> lol...
01:23 <Vanhayes> who is noddy?
01:23 <madmax|pt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noddy
01:23 <Vanhayes> wow, random question madmax|pt 
01:24 <Vanhayes> what brought that up?
01:24 <Commn> madmax|pt : never heard of noddy 
01:24 <madmax|pt> not really
01:24 <madmax|pt> does anyone: a) know noddy, b) think he is a taxi driver
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> who the hell is noddy?
01:24 <madmax|pt> someone was arguing with me that he isn't a taxi driver
01:24 <ghableska> um
01:25 <Vanhayes> Noddy drives a red and yellow car (and once flew a plane) in Toytown. Noddy has many friends and has a golden bell end on his hat.
01:25 <madmax|pt> lol
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> ok, why the fuck should I care who the hell noddy is?
01:25 <madmax|pt> Noddy is a stupid cartoon
01:25 <Vanhayes> hmm do you know who barney is?
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, as usual the conservative bloggers are predicting doom and gloom for the democrats when the democrats have won a marginal victory
01:26 <madmax|pt> simpsons?
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> barney is that stupid purple dinosaur that gives kids violent tendencies and is therefore not watched in my house
01:26 <Vanhayes> nah madmax|pt is right
01:27  * Vanhayes just saw an episode of the simpsons
01:27 <Vanhayes> the dinosaur never did it for me
01:27 <Vanhayes> I just kept wondering who was behind the suit
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> I just kept wanting to drop a tactical nuclear warhead on the cast and crew
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> couldn't figure out why, either
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> then one day my kid watches barney, and immediately after it was over he ran over to my wife and started pummeling her
01:28 <madmax|pt> holy crap, just saw some pics of barney the dino 
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> pummeling!
01:28 <madmax|pt> looks bad
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> my kid can sit and watch R-rated horror flicks and doesn't act like that!
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> but give him barney and he's a freaking mass murderer
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> soooo, there's no barney in my house
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> actually, they went to see a live barney show and they were fine, it's only the tv show that seems to do this to them
01:30 <Vanhayes> those creppy kids singing "I Love you, you Love me" always gave me the impression barney was trying to start a cult
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, all those creepy kids in my high school that sang that song turned out to be gay later on
01:31 <Vanhayes> wow, no one has ever sung that song in my school
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> barney was something of a new sensation when I was in high school, now he's just another kid's show (insanely popular, but no longer a sensation)
01:35 <madmax|pt> well, he's purple
01:36 <Vanhayes>  I always Found Barney gumble more entertaining than barney the dinosaur
01:36 <ghableska> "For instance, one particular episode made use of the phrase, "A stranger is a friend you have not met yet", which some parents may view as sending a dangerous message to their children."
01:36 <ghableska> Hahahah.
01:36 <Vanhayes> ha, nice
01:36 <Vanhayes> and very scary
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> I don't like teaching my kids not to talk to strangers
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> when my daughter came home and told me there were all these grownups on the way home from school that wanted to kidnap her or hurt her, I started rethinking the message we were sending them
01:39 <ghableska> "An additional criticism has been made that the characters often use magic to solve real problems, something that is very controversial among Christian fundamentalists who regard "magic" as equivalent to witchcraft"
01:40 <Vanhayes> hmm did I hear that the priest from Jesus camp turned out to be a drug smoking homosexual who purchased prostitutes?
01:41 <Vanhayes> that Christian thing just jogged my memory btw, not just a random outburst
01:42 <ghableska> hmm
01:42 <ghableska> http://www.jihad.net/
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I just clicked a wiki ad
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> yes, you did, Vanhayes (prick) 
01:43 <Vanhayes> your a prick
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:43  * Lucifer_arma nods
01:43 <Vanhayes> heh, had to do it
01:43 <Vanhayes> Ya I think I heard that on the daily show
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, I can't do tab completion on my own name.  Lucifer_arma (prick) 
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> er, yes I can, apparently
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> there, so we're all equal now.  ANyone I address directly is a prick.  :)
01:44 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_armaass 
01:44 -!- spidey is now known as Spidey
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, it was some guy in Colorado who was pushing for a ban on gay marriage
01:44 <Vanhayes> hmm, that didnt work right
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> then it turns out that he bought meth from a gay male masseuse, and the masseuse said he had sex with the guy monthly
01:44 -!- Spidey is now known as spidey
01:45 <Vanhayes> ya, you dont deserve capitalization spidey 
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> Co-location customers want their data center to have bulletproof infrastructure, k
01:45 <spidey> Vanhayes, you don't deserve life
01:45 <spidey> but we give it to you anyways
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> Located in Southeast Austin, our new $3 Million data center
01:45 <Vanhayes> you give Me life?
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> it better be bulletproof if it's in Southest AUstin
01:46 <Vanhayes> southeast austin a ruogh neighbor hood?
01:46 <Vanhayes> rough*
01:46 <spidey> Vanhayes, we allow you to keep it
01:47 <Vanhayes> I consider that a threat
01:47 <Vanhayes> an empty threat ya, but still...
01:48 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: how much have you made off of those wiki ads so for?
01:48 <spidey> whatchya gonna do about it?? get a lawyer and sue me like this other guy's sueing server admins and people from a irc server?
01:48 <Vanhayes> yes?
01:48 <spidey> good
01:48 <spidey> i'm not coming to canada so  you better fly down here
01:49 <spidey> then sue me for $5
01:49 <spidey> cause that's all i got
01:49 <spidey> =p
01:49 <Vanhayes> there should be a slvery law, if you owe someone money but cant pay you become their slave for a period of time
01:49 <Vanhayes> slavery*
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> canadians are soooo advanced
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> um, about $15 now
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> and the ad I clicked on was an ad I was actually interested in
01:52 <ghableska> how much are you hoping to get?
01:52 <Vanhayes> I clicked a few that looked interesting
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> ~$100/month is the target
01:52 <Vanhayes> alot of random junk on there tho
01:52 <ghableska> oh
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> that only puts me in a spot where I can put up my own money up front to build the wiki server bigger and better
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> if there's a predictable and constant $250/month or more we can pay for manged server hosting
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> which gives us a game server, too.
01:53 <Vanhayes> so it would be a new true bugfarm?
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> I looked at the paypal payments, and guru3 wasn't lying, there isn't anything predictable there.  Someone gave a really nice donation, but it amounts to a spike.
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: that's about right, provided it wasn't as bad as luke's managed servers :)
01:53 <Vanhayes> ha
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> but more than that, it would give us a place to move the main website, and considering how the wiki's doing, it's almost a certainty that if we could put
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> the main site on a server that can handle the traffic and put ads on it that we'd make enough to become independent of sourceforge
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01:54 <Lucifer_arma> and possibly have some money to put into the community in some way or other
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> I say almost a certainty, but I'd really need more data on the main website to give something worth someone shelling out money over
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> and since it's on sourceforge's server, that data does not exist :/
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> TOS on sourceforge prevent us from putting ads there, too.  The only way to get the data would be to put our own php scripts in there to collect it, and that's a problem of its own.
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> better to use the wiki to bootstrap us into a good web server and then move in slowly with the other stuff
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> see, if I can put down money to incrementally improve the wiki server, it can eventually become something that can easily be colocated
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> and coloc services are much cheaper.  The target we've got right now would be sufficient for colocating the wiki, which means we own the server, too
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm done rambling.  I hope I've been informative and useful.  :)
01:57 <ghableska> hi mom
01:58 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: informative, yes
01:58 <Vanhayes> heh you have been informative ya
01:58 <Vanhayes> damnit ghab
01:58 <Your_mom_arma> hi
01:58 <Vanhayes> your too fast for me
01:58 <Vanhayes> hey mom
01:58 <ghableska> what?
01:59 <Vanhayes> you thought of the same thing, but typed it faster
01:59 <ghableska> oh. :P
02:00 <Vanhayes> hmm, anyone recommend some music? Need to add some new music
02:01 <ghableska> I think our tates differ :P
02:01 <ghableska> what kind of music?
02:01 <Vanhayes> I like any thing
02:01 <Vanhayes> welll anything that sounds good :)
02:02 <Your_mom_arma> hirax
02:12 <Vanhayes> damn that took a while to download, ares didnt have much
02:15 <Vanhayes> not bad tho, any other recomendations?
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02:16 <ghableska> http://capsteps.com/ <-- some of those are pretty funny
02:16 <ghableska> it's mostly american politics though...
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02:24 <Lucifer_arma> Joe Jackson
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> I highly recommend Joe Jackson
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> especially if you have a) listened to me play bass and b) liked it.  :)
02:25 <ghableska> heh, I've never been able to get that to work 
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, check him out anyway.  His record Look Sharp! is one of my favorites, at least.
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> I don't make a mix CD without a couple of songs from that album, and there aren't that many that have that kind of standing for me
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I don't make any mix CDs these days since the CD player in my car is broken
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> his later records are good, and fun to listen to, but different enough from Look Sharp! that I haven't really gotten into them, although you may find you like them a lot
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02:35 <Van-hayes> ugh
02:36 <ghableska> heh
02:36 <Van-hayes> Lucifer_arma: I knew that name sounded familiar
02:36 <Van-hayes> Ive heard a few songs, liked them too
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02:57 <Van-hayes> #time
02:57 <armabot> Van-hayes: 02:56 AM, November 09, 2006
03:01 <Van-hayes> #night
03:01 <armabot> Good night Van-hayes!
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03:27 <Lucifer_arma> 5 minutes is a long time when you're hungry
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=415317&in_page_id=1774
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04:15 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:15 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 59.0°F (8:54 PM CST on November 08, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.48 in 998 hPa. 
04:20 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr_ ping
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04:47 <Your_mom_arma> wth... tron school?
04:51 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, it's for people like luke-jr_ 
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04:57 <Your_mom_arma> hey
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> so, if The Republic requires LIteracy, and Literacy requires Code of Laws, then I don't need to connect the Republic to Code of Laws in a flowchart, right?
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> *Republic also requires Code of Laws
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05:07 <DrJoeTr0n> heya
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> hi
05:18 <luke-jr_> ...
05:19 <luke-jr_> not unless Republic requires Code of Laws in itself
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> it explicitly requires code of laws and literacy
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> but literacy also requires code of laws, so to satisfy the rpublic, you have to get code of laws, then literacy
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> Kivio is kind of a pain, I think I'm gonna start over with Dia and see how that goes
05:21 <Your_mom_arma> kivio?
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, KDE's flowcharting tool
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> see, to make the sweeping civ changes I keep talking about, I need a visual representation of the tech tree
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's not really a tree, more like a bowl of spaghetti :(
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, Kivio is modeled after Visio, iirc.
05:31 <Your_mom_arma> i could see that chart being almost unreadable
05:33 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: why visual?
05:33 <Your_mom_arma> anyone want to pick up a game of civ?
05:33 <luke-jr_> last night's maybe
05:34 <luke-jr_> what changes ARE you talking about Luci?
05:41 <Your_mom_arma> what about the other days game?
05:42 <luke-jr_> nobody else wanted to continue it?
05:43 <Your_mom_arma> ping spidey
05:43 <spidey> ?
05:45 <Your_mom_arma> want to play the game in lukes server from the other day?
05:54 <DrJoeTr0n> track mania :D
05:57 <Your_mom_arma> i guess we could play that instead
05:58 <DrJoeTr0n> same place?
05:58 <Your_mom_arma> i guess
05:58 <DrJoeTr0n> shit 
05:58 <spidey> i can
05:58 <spidey> only play a hour or so
05:58 <spidey> i'm really tired
05:58 <spidey> =/
05:58 <DrJoeTr0n> actualy give me like 15 minutes
05:59 <Your_mom_arma> well i'll be in the server, cya there
05:59 <DrJoeTr0n> actually, fuck it, i got shit to study for i just realized
05:59 <Your_mom_arma> fair enough
05:59 <DrJoeTr0n> probably tommarow though
06:00 <spidey> mom still wanna play?
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> if you wait a bit I can probably play some
06:09 <spidey> #15*30
06:09 <spidey> #g 15*30
06:09 <armabot> spidey: 15 * 30 = 450
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> y'all still trying to get a freeciv game going?
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> Dia it is, Kivio is The Suck
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07:15 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here use skype in place of a landline?
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> Your_mom_arma did you leave>
07:21 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> i didnt get the right skin :/
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> so i kept google caching
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> but i got the grenade sticker :D
07:24 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
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07:32 <Lucifer_arma> wiki's going to be down again tomorrow, watch
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> it's windier than hell outside
07:34 <wrtlprnft> ah, you'd know about hell, true
07:37 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
07:37 <Your_mom_arma> #time
07:37 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: 07:36 AM, November 09, 2006
08:04 <DrJoeTr0n> awww
08:04 <DrJoeTr0n> i didnt know mac halll pseudo ended :/
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12:29 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/images/e/e0/Technologies.png
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13:03 <swingle> hi
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13:03 <swingle> is anybody out there?
13:05 <swingle> i have a problem compiling armagetronad in windows
13:05 <swingle> is this the right place to ask?
13:06 <Lucifer_arma> it is, but nobody's here right now
13:07 <swingle> Lucifer_arma you are a developer?
13:07 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but I don't use windows :)
13:07 <swingle> btw im siro you might remember me from wild fortress
13:07 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing I can do if it's a windows specific problem is refer you to the wiki or the forums
13:08 <swingle> ok then ill ask you another question i have
13:08 <swingle> i thought about implementing some kind of compression layer
13:08 <swingle> at the socket level
13:08 <swingle> arma doesnt use any compression now does it?
13:09 <Lucifer_arma> no it doesn't
13:09 <Lucifer_arma> we've talked about it, though.  Mostly decided it wouldn't be worth it. :)
13:09 <swingle> why not? itd be quite easy to implement
13:09 <Lucifer_arma> what problem are you trying to solve with a compression layer?
13:09 <swingle> im on a 56k dialup
13:10 <swingle> if packets where half size we could send twice as many using the same bandwidth
13:10 <swingle> so we could afford to loase more packets without blackout and disconnections
13:11 <Lucifer_arma> um, yeah, but then we have to compress/decompress the packets.  You either spend bandwidth or cpu time
13:11 <swingle> i though of using a lempel-ziv like algorithm
13:11 <swingle> it could be quite fast
13:11 <Lucifer_arma> what was determined when the subject came up last time was that there were a lot of improvements and optimizations that can be made to the network layer without using compression
13:12 <Lucifer_arma> and that after those improvements were made, it would *then* be worthwhile to look at compression again
13:12 <Lucifer_arma> thing is, the protocol itself is still considered experimental, last I checked, so it has a lot of stuff that's there primarily for testing purposes
13:12 <Lucifer_arma> now, mind you, I don't know jack about socket programming, I use other libraries to deal with that myself, so z-man's the one you need to talk to about it
13:13 <Lucifer_arma> best way to get a hold of him is through the forums.  He comes in here sometimes, and he even talks sometimes when he's here, but the forums are the most reliable place to talk to him
13:13 <swingle> my question is, if i write a thin compression layer that doesnt consume much cpu time would it be worth a look?
13:14 <Lucifer_arma> anything someone does trying to improve the game is worth a look.  :)  If you're right and the rest of us are wrong, it'll even get into the game.  ;)
13:14 <swingle> heh
13:15 <swingle> ok ill give it a try then
13:15 <Lucifer_arma> but me, personally, if you're pretty good with socket programming, I'd suggest you look around and see what kind of other optimizations you could do
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13:15 <Lucifer_arma> my main issue is that the game server I run is on a slow-ass machine, and I'd just as soon not have it decompress packets from 12 players hundreds of times a second
13:15 <Lucifer_arma> of course, that also makes it a good test bed for your patch :)
13:16 <swingle> i didnt plan on compressing traffic from players to server
13:16 <swingle> only the other way
13:16 <Lucifer_arma> just from server to players?
13:16 <swingle> yep
13:16 <swingle> that could be achieving just changing the way things are coded
13:16 <swingle> (achieved) :)
13:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you really want to do it, write it up and we'll give a look at it :)
13:17 <swingle> the first thing i need to do it is to make visual studio understand the project files
13:17 <swingle> it says one of them is corrupt
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> heh, good luck.  I don't think anyone's maintaining those anymore, we've gone to something else
13:18 <swingle> what are you using now?
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> Code::Blocks, I think, is what we're using now on Windows
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> better check the wiki
13:18 <swingle> k
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Development_Docs
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13:22 <swingle> how can i decompress 7z files?
13:24 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #google decompress 7z
13:25 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Search took 0.39 seconds: 7-Zip: <http://www.7-zip.org/>; Download CompreXX - compress, decompress ,extract,archive, 7Z ,7ZIP ...: <http://www.gold-software.com/CompreXX-file5778.html>; WinRAR archiver, a powerful tool to process RAR and ZIP files: <http://www.rarlab.com/rarnew.htm>; Choice of a GNU Generation - Free Software Foundation (FSF): <http://www.gnu.org/software/for-windows.html>; (2 more messages)
13:25 <guru3> fo shizzle, google's the way
13:25 <swingle> lol
14:57 <spidey> o.O
15:11 <spidey> lol
15:11 <spidey> this thing sucks
15:11 <spidey> o.O
15:13 <spidey> http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2148/untitledli8.jpg
15:13 <spidey> that's like
15:13 <spidey> the faster pc ever!!
15:14 <swingle> whats that?
15:14 <swingle> oh 300 mhz 
15:14 <spidey> 300mhz, 64mb ram and running winxp
15:14 <spidey> xD
15:14 <swingle> ive got a 25MHz with 16MB ram up and running :p
15:14 <spidey> O.o
15:15 <spidey> slowest i got is 122mhz
15:15 <spidey> need more parts for it though
15:15 <spidey> just a mobo and case....few other parts , been things like power supply cord ide cables and stuff =/
15:15 <swingle> well, slowest i got is a CPC6128 but i think it doesnt work any more
15:15 <spidey> s/been/need
15:16 <spidey> o.O
15:16 <spidey> never heard of those =p
15:16 <guru3> slowest i have running is 135 or so
15:16 <swingle> how old are you?
15:16 <spidey> 16
15:16 <luke-jr_> swingle: no matter how fast the CPU is, compression still adds latency
15:16 <swingle> heh then its normal you havent heard of them
15:16 <luke-jr_> that's part of why people still use ulaw (uncompressed) for VoIP when possible
15:17 <spidey> that's gonna be a linux server when i get a blank CD or a floppy, so i can do a network install >:|
15:17 <luke-jr_> latency = ping
15:17 <spidey> no really?
15:17 <spidey> =p
15:17 <swingle> luke-jr_ -> thats not necessarily tru
15:17 <swingle> "data generation -> compression -> transmission"  adds latency
15:17 <swingle> "data generation with clever coding -> transmission" doesnt
15:19 <swingle> for arma differential coding could make a big difference without adding latency
15:26 <spidey> hmm
15:26 <spidey> i don't see how people say windows is a resource hog
15:26 <spidey> this 300mhz box is running it at a max 3% cpu usage while i'm multitasking
15:26 <spidey> so booyah
15:26 <spidey> =p
15:27 <swingle> you'd run out of disk if you let it run long enough
15:27 <swingle> maybe out of memory too
15:28 <swingle> and it will run slower each time you reboot
15:28 <Commn> depends on windows version
15:28 <Commn> winxp wouldnt run on a 300mhz anyhow
15:28 <spidey> nah
15:28 <swingle> yep, but its true for XP
15:28 <spidey> Commn, it does so
15:28 <spidey> saw the screenshot?
15:28 <spidey> =p
15:29 <Commn> not well ;p
15:29 <spidey> it is so far
15:29 <spidey> =p
15:29 <spidey> 24 hour uptime
15:29 <spidey> o.O
15:29 <Commn> i ran it on my p233 once ;)
15:29 <swingle> spidey: just give it time
15:29 <spidey> only a 4gig hddd
15:29 <swingle> install something and then remove it
15:29 <swingle> you gotta play a bit with the registry to screw it up
15:29 <Commn> windows really only slows down for people that use IE and outlook ;p
15:29 <spidey> but the install bring that to 3.38gigs free
15:30 <Commn> i swear winxp install was 1gig
15:30 <spidey> ie and outlook suck
15:30 <spidey> Commn, it's 1.8 gigs
15:30 <spidey> i'm using a custom install
15:30 <spidey> =p
15:30 <Commn> ah
15:30 <luke-jr_> swingle:  "data generation with clever coding" != compression
15:31 <swingle> luke-jr_: you are right i explained myself wrong, its not what you call compression but it saves bandwidth too
15:31 <spidey> swingle, if you have the disk space windows won't run out of ram
15:31 <spidey> it uses pagefile like linux uses swap
15:31 <spidey> though i have manage to use 2.5gigs total memory on this box
15:31 <spidey> =/
15:32 <luke-jr_> swingle: I certainly wouldn't mind a new protocol ;)
15:32 <swingle> spidey: the swapspace in windows is not placed on a different partition by default so it gets fragmented -> its awfully slow
15:32 <spidey> that's why you make one
15:32 <spidey> anyone with common sense knows that =p
15:32 <swingle> what filesystem are you using for your swap space?
15:32 <spidey> ntfs
15:32 <luke-jr_> swingle: Linux swap files don't need their own partition either
15:32 <swingle> that makes it awfully slow too ;)
15:33 <spidey> yea. but it's only a temprary install, till i geta blank cd
15:33 <spidey> so i don't care =p
15:33 <spidey> or a floppy disk...
15:33 <swingle> yep thats the key point, winxp works fine for temporary installs
15:33 <spidey> no
15:33 <spidey> not at all
15:33 <Commn> microsoft lost me when they decided it was up to them to tell me how many times i can configure my pc hardware
15:34 <swingle> billy gates said everyone should do a complete format every 6 months
15:34 <swingle> if you do that winxp can be as good as anything else
15:34 <Commn> swingle : i've been running windows for a long time without formats
15:34 <spidey> it can without that
15:34 <spidey> Running on Windows: 5.1 (Build 2600)  update:  Total Memory: 503 Meg / Available memory: 252 Meg Extended Info Microsoft Windows XP Has Been Installed For  106 days, 18 Hours, 4 Minutes And 59 Seconds CPU Type - Uniprocessor Free 
15:34 <luke-jr_> screw Windoze
15:34 <Commn> just people who dont know how to fix windows, have problems with it
15:34 <luke-jr_> there is no good reason *to* use it
15:34 <spidey> luke-jr_, there's no good reason to use linux
15:35 <luke-jr_> spidey: sure there is, it works properly
15:35 <spidey> it does?
15:35 <swingle> Commn: its hard for me to believe that
15:35 <spidey> yet it's easier to break than windows
15:35 <luke-jr_> as does BSD
15:35 <luke-jr_> spidey: nonsense
15:35 <spidey> atleast windows has automatedd recovery
15:35 <luke-jr_> ROFL
15:35 <spidey> =p
15:36 <swingle> spidey: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sdba
15:36 <swingle> thats all you need to make an automatedd recovery tool for linux
15:36 <spidey> i learned not to try nix  commands from anyone =p
15:36 <spidey> especially luke
15:36 <spidey> :|
15:37 <swingle> Commn: windows' performance degrades with time, thats a fact accepted even by microsoft developers
15:37 <spidey> only if you don't know what you're doing
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15:38 <spidey> i had a win98 box that had win98 install from the day i got it
15:38 <swingle> spidey: ok please tell me what you know about windows that everyone else ignorres
15:38 <spidey> it ran just as good as the first day i installed
15:38 <spidey> and that was only a 700mhz box o.O
15:38 <spidey> swingle, tweaking
15:39 <swingle> the problem is not the speed of the CPU, the problem is bad design
15:39 <spidey> it makes all the difference
15:39 <swingle> bad memory management, bad filesystem design
15:39 <swingle> terrible IPC infrastructure
15:39 <swingle> GDI sucks too
15:39 <spidey> it's funny only linux users have problems with windows =p
15:40 <swingle> nah every ones got problems but linux users complain when they suffer them
15:40 <Commn> swingle : i think what microsoft means is that an idiot can screw windows up in 6 months so badly that it would take days to fix it, and it would be better to just reformat ;p
15:40 <swingle> windows users just accept bugs are part of normal life
15:40 <spidey> i've never heard a halfway decent pc user running windows complain about bugs, crashes, or anything i've heard linux users complain about
15:40 <spidey> lol comm
15:41 <Commn> actually, i havent seen linux crash much
15:41 <swingle> spidey: you have never seen a windows system become completely unresponsive?
15:41 <Commn> one or two kernel panics
15:41 <spidey> i sure haven't
15:41 <Commn> i've seen windows freeze up, but i've seen linux and mac do it too
15:41 <swingle> just code an infinite loop and run it as system user and you'll see it
15:41 <spidey> why would i intentionally cause that?
15:41 <swingle> its very easy to crash windows from user space
15:42 <swingle> thats not that easy with a stable linux
15:42 <swingle> spidey: to prove its easy
15:42 <luke-jr_> swingle: you can do that under Linux
15:42 <swingle> it could happen unintentionally
15:42 <luke-jr_> most Linux are still vuln to fork bombs
15:42 <spidey> uptime:  9 days, 23 Hours, 32 Minutes And 8 Seconds 
15:42 <swingle> luke-jr_: but the fix is known and you can find a linux that is not vulnerable
15:43 <swingle> windows, beeing close source cant be fixed
15:43 <swingle> until billy decides its worth fixing
15:43 <luke-jr_> Idiots wouldn't know to get a fix
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15:43 <Commn> thats why billy has forced updates ;p
15:43 <swingle> luke-jr_: latest fedora versions are fixed
15:43 <swingle> even an idiot can install them
15:43 <Commn> btw, firefox is scaring me with its automatic updates
15:43 <luke-jr_> pfft, Fedora
15:44 <swingle> imho firefox is a piece of shit
15:44 <spidey> Commn, you getting those to?
15:44 <swingle> but thats another discussion
15:44 <spidey> crashes when it tries to update
15:44 <luke-jr_> someone willing to use Fedora would probably use Windows as well
15:44 <spidey> haha
15:44 <spidey> even i won't use FC
15:44 <spidey> and i'ma windows dude =p
15:44 <spidey> though i wouldn't use mandrivia either =/
15:44 <Commn> spidey : ya, you can turn auto update off in the options
15:44 <spidey> i'ma debian fan :D:D
15:45 <swingle> im sure youd like SUSE
15:45 <Commn> spidey : i just think its really bad to have it on by default, it emulates windows 'firefox restart' nonsense
15:45 <spidey> no
15:45 <swingle> why not then?
15:45 <spidey> yea but you can cancel that
15:45 <spidey> by clicking "update when i restart firefox"
15:46 <luke-jr_> Debian pisses me off
15:46 <Commn> Uptime: 6wks 1day 10hrs 38mins 55secs
15:46 <spidey> swingle, i haven't liked any other distro that wasn't debian based, except slackware
15:46 <Commn> win2k :)
15:46 <spidey> so i doubt i'll like suse
15:46 <Commn> altho there is some bug i havent figured out where explorer explodes every week or so
15:47 <Commn> i wish i could find whats causing it
15:47 <spidey> ?
15:47 <swingle> anyway, the point here is not that most distros suck, the point (for me) is that the linux kernel is more stable than windows'
15:47 <Commn> all of a sudden my shell will die, and display every window incorrectly, the only way to fix is force kill explorer and run explorer.exe 
15:47 <swingle> and so are the standard tools
15:47 <spidey> kernal, yea
15:47 <spidey> for servers
15:48 <swingle> for example you can do almost nothing form a windows console
15:48 <spidey> sure you can
15:48 <swingle> its so hard to create a pipe
15:48 <swingle> you dont have access to devices
15:49 <spidey> "Device drivers"
15:49 <swingle> it lacks a /dev which can be of great use
15:49 <spidey> 'er
15:49 <swingle> it lacks a /proc too
15:49 <spidey> "Device manager"
15:49 <spidey> omg
15:49 <spidey> it's like
15:49 <spidey> so not linux
15:49 <spidey> der =p
15:49 <swingle> when you want to see which processes are running you use the task manager right?
15:49 <Commn> pipes are almost the same on windows as linux
15:50 <Commn> named pipes are hard :)
15:50 <Commn> or rather, impossible
15:50 <spidey> no, i don't use taskmanager
15:50 <swingle> ok, tell me how you list a directory and pipe the results to a filter
15:50 <Commn> dir | sort
15:50 <swingle> and then write them to a file
15:50 <Commn> dir | sort > output.file
15:50 <spidey> lol
15:50 <swingle> heh, you know that wont work in all windows
15:51 <spidey> he uses win2k
15:51 <Commn> it works in win95 and up, i think
15:51 <spidey> so it works from anything up for sure
15:51 <Commn> i've been using dir > output forever
15:51 <spidey> i think it works in win98
15:51 <Commn> i use cat file | mplayer - on windows , even :)
15:51 <swingle> ive got some winxp's at work in which that fails
15:51 <Commn> but i installed the gnu-win32 tools too
15:52 <Commn> swingle : you'll have to show me your command line... ;p
15:52 <swingle> i admit winxp can be used to work, id be an idiot if i didnt
15:53 <Commn> this is my biggest pipe script i run on windows
15:53 <Commn> cat clip*.asx*|grep mms|grep -v loading|grep -v warning|grep -v ads|sed "s/<Ref href =//"| tr -st """ " "" | tr -st ">" " """"" | sed "s/^[ \t]*//;s/[ \t]*$//"|sed -n p|sort >mms | notepad mms
15:53 <swingle> but it isnt by farr as solid as any linux
15:53 <Commn> all that runs on win2k cmd.exe :p
15:53 <spidey> btw
15:53 <spidey> to list processes if i'm not lazy i use this
15:53 <Commn> of course, you have to get tr and sed from gnu-win32 stuff (or just compile it with cygwin/mingw)
15:53 <spidey> WMIC /OUTPUT:C:\ProcessList.txt PROCESS get Caption,Commandline,Processid
15:53 <spidey> or, C:\>TASKLIST
15:53 <spidey> =p
15:54 <Commn> spidey : i think sysinternals has a ps port or something
15:54 <Commn> i know it has a kill program
15:54 <Commn> kill <pid>
15:54 <Commn> etc
15:54 <spidey> hrm
15:54 <swingle> spidey: wmic is not available from my command line
15:54 <Commn> i dont have wmic either
15:54 <spidey> wmic:root\cli>
15:54 <spidey> heh
15:54 <swingle> do you know how to get the list of running programs in C ?
15:55 <spidey> i didn't install it
15:55 <spidey> it was jsut there
15:55 <spidey> o.O
15:55 <swingle> i had to do it last week and even that stupid thing is difficult
15:55 <spidey> erm?
15:55 <swingle> there are at least 5 ways to do it, one of them completely undocumented
15:56 <swingle> none of them work in all cases
15:56 <swingle> erm what?
15:56 <spidey> what do you mean
15:56 <spidey> list of "running" programs in C
15:56 <spidey> my default install isn't C btw =p
15:57 <swingle> get what taskman.exe gives you from a C program
15:57 <spidey> ugh?
15:57 <spidey> a c program...
15:57 <swingle> dada.c
15:57 <swingle> gcc dada.c ....
15:57 <swingle> you know
15:57 <Commn> it should be easy to get a process list
15:57 <swingle> ok tell me how to do it
15:58 <Commn> i'm not saying it is
15:58 <spidey> no, i don't know
15:58 <Commn> i'll looksee , one min
15:58 <swingle> ok
15:58  * swingle is impacient
15:58 <spidey> you mean a list of processes?
15:58 <spidey> just a list...
15:58 <swingle> DWORD list[];
15:59 <swingle> filla that with the list of running PIDs
15:59 <Commn> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/PsList.mspx
15:59 <swingle> let me check it out ...
15:59 <spidey> erm
15:59 <swingle> thats a command line utility man
15:59 <spidey> windows has a default command
15:59 <spidey> for that
15:59 <spidey> i forget it
15:59 <spidey> sec
15:59 <swingle> i need to do it from a c program
16:00 <spidey> the programming launguage C ?
16:00 <swingle> yep
16:00 <Commn> swingle : yeah, just saying its possible for one program to do it ;p
16:00 <spidey> could have just said that
16:00 <spidey> lol
16:00 <swingle> not in all cases
16:00 <swingle> i needed to get the list of processes running in all desktops
16:00 <swingle> from all users
16:00 <swingle> i found no good solution for that
16:00 <spidey> C:\> tasklist
16:00 <spidey> ....
16:01 <Commn> spidey : no tasklist here
16:01 <Commn> ;p
16:01 <spidey> win2k the suck =p
16:01 <Commn> :D
16:02 <spidey> deltree C:\*.* /y
16:02 <spidey> =p
16:02 <swingle> heh
16:02 <swingle> i think that cant delete the deltree exec file
16:03 <spidey> if it did what would run deltree?
16:03 <spidey> =p
16:03 <Commn> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/tasklist.mspx?mfr=true
16:03 <Commn> its in winxp i guess ;p
16:03 <swingle> execs are memory mapped in windows so you cant easily delete them while running
16:03 <Commn> winxppro
16:03 <spidey> winxp pro corp here
16:03 <spidey> =p
16:03 <Commn> delete no, rename yes
16:03 -!- Ady [n=ady@244.Red-83-51-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #armagetron
16:04 <swingle> Commn: that depends on the security token of the user running it
16:04 <Commn> i have to rename viruses and spyware when i'm fixing my friends pc's
16:04 <Commn> then restart and delete such files
16:04 <Commn> and yes boot disks or live cds are better blah blah
16:04 <spidey> i have a spyware downloader
16:05 <spidey> named command.exe
16:05 <spidey> little shit's protected by windows because of the name
16:05 <spidey> >:|
16:05 <spidey> and i really don't feel like rebooting
16:05 <Commn> swingle : anyways, i dont think i can find the interface for tasklist
16:05 <Commn> hehe
16:05 <swingle> there are a lot of good api spys for windows that you can use to get it
16:06 <swingle> or you could use softice but that would be a bit of an overkill
16:08 <Ady> nice, conversation  
16:08 <Ady> I'm using dictation software 
16:08 <spidey> hey Commn 
16:08 <spidey> you have a fsutil command?
16:08 <swingle> ive heard windows vista comes with dictation software
16:08 <swingle> are you using it?
16:09 <spidey> vista does suck
16:09 <spidey> heh
16:09 <swingle> dunno i havent tried it
16:09 <Ady> what is the problem 
16:09 <swingle> but im sure it'll suck like all its relatives
16:09 <Commn> spidey : no fsutil
16:10 <spidey> i like this
16:10 <swingle> Ady: which software are you using?
16:11 <Ady> electronic dictate system 
16:11 <Ady> e-speaking
16:11 <Commn> hmmm
16:11 <Commn> i tried voice software before
16:11 <Commn> but this was way back in old days :)
16:11 <swingle> is it good? how long is the training time?
16:12 <spidey> http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/7651/untitledjv3.jpg
16:12 <Ady> it it doesn't dictate the same as you want to say
16:12 <Commn> actually, with irc it should work pretty well :)
16:12 <swingle> i tried viavoice once but made many mistakes
16:12 <spidey> who needs /proc anyways
16:12 <spidey> =p
16:12 <Ady> about 3 hours
16:12 <Commn> ya viavoice is what i tried long ago
16:12 <Ady> it uses Microsoft API
16:12 <Commn> spidey : ug xchat
16:12 <spidey> ?
16:12 <spidey> right click the link
16:12 <spidey> open in browser
16:13 <Commn> no
16:13 <Commn> you use xchat
16:13 <spidey> yea
16:13 <spidey> ?
16:13 <Commn> its ugly :)
16:13 <swingle> spidey: i dont have system info
16:13 <spidey> winxp only i tihnk
16:13 <swingle> im using xp now
16:13 <spidey> professional?
16:13 <Commn> spidey : why are you using remote desktop? isnt tightvnc better?
16:13 <swingle> home i think
16:14 <spidey> i have 2.4 physical memory o.o
16:14 <spidey> fuck no
16:14 <spidey> rdp = way faster
16:14 <swingle> spidey has been brainwashed by billy :p
16:14 <spidey> i mean...way faster
16:14 <spidey> tightvnc even lags on LAN
16:14 <spidey> rdp doesn't
16:14 -!- Commn is now known as Compn
16:14 <spidey> use rdp, it's like you're setting at that computer
16:14 <spidey> if it's lan
16:15 <spidey> it's still faster over the internet to
16:15 <swingle> rdp is one of the best things theyve done i have to admit
16:16 <Compn> i was thinking of apple remote desktop
16:16 <Compn> which sucks
16:16 <spidey> lol
16:16 <Compn> winxp rdp is ok :)
16:16 <spidey> besides 
16:16 <spidey> i can't use tightvnc
16:17 <spidey> makes the pc reboot =/
16:17 <swingle> you hate everything that is not from microsoft?
16:17 <spidey> i think my cd was scratched when i install
16:17 <swingle> haha
16:17 <swingle> i makes your pc reboot?
16:17 <swingle> dont blame tightvnc, blame windows man
16:17 <spidey> yes
16:17 <spidey> but only mine
16:17 <spidey> it works fine on my other pc that's using the exact same install as this one
16:17 <spidey> infact they where formatted the same day
16:18 <swingle> ok, so your winxp OS reboots when you run tightvnc and you say winxp is stable?
16:18 <Compn> its stable
16:18 <Compn> if you dont use tightvnc :p
16:18 <Compn> hehehe
16:18 <swingle> heh
16:18 <spidey> yes, i say it's stable
16:18 <swingle> of course its stable if you dont use any of the things that crash it
16:18 <spidey> because it doesn't work on this install doesn't mean a thing
16:18 <spidey> i've fucked this install over and over
16:18 <spidey> and you know what
16:19 <spidey> it still runs perfect
16:19 <spidey> aside from the vnc protocol
16:19 <spidey> =/
16:19 <swingle> perfect unless you run tightvnc dont forget that
16:19 <swingle> you can crash the whole system just running an innocent user space program
16:19 <spidey> ...
16:19 <spidey> tightvnc is the only one that crashes it
16:19 <spidey> and it's more than likely my fault
16:20 <swingle> the only one you know of
16:20 <spidey> as i said, ~I~ fucked this install over
16:20 <spidey> many times
16:20 <spidey> but you know what, i fixed it and it still runs fine except for vnc =p
16:20 <swingle> how can you fuck an install without changing the kernel and make it less stable?
16:20 <swingle> a strong kernel should be inmune to user space fucking ;)
16:21 <spidey> my uncle....porn sites....IE
16:21 <spidey> = viruses
16:21 <spidey> =spyware
16:21 <spidey> also i've modded alot of files i shouldn't have touched
16:21 <swingle> it has to be a security feature, when windows detects porn, spyware and viruses it stops working with tightvnc
16:21 <swingle> it sound logic
16:21 <Compn> spidey : lock your IE down
16:22 <Compn> go into the settings and disable activex and javascript lol
16:22 <spidey> oh so now that you know i have a bug you're gonna attack that, just because it's something -i- did?
16:22 <spidey> what i do to a OS is irrelavent to weather it's stable or not
16:22 <Compn> #armaservers
16:22 <armabot> Compn: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
16:22 <Compn> #armaservers
16:22 <armabot> Compn: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
16:22 <spidey> Compn, ya, was gonna run processes gaurd
16:22 <spidey> but
16:22 <spidey> he's gone now
16:23 <spidey> so i have nothing to worry about :D
16:23 <swingle> if my linux box crashed when i ran tightvnc id assume it was broken and id change the kernel for a fixed one
16:23 <swingle> but when it happens on windows you assume its something you did and dont blame the kernel
16:24 <swingle> thats why linux users complain more about windows
16:24 <spidey> really?
16:24 <swingle> they dont accept crashing as a normal system behavior
16:24 <spidey> it's funny 
16:24 <spidey> everything runs fine on a clean install
16:24 <spidey> it's just when i get to toying with things...i break it
16:24 <spidey> that's right, i break it...not it breaking itself
16:24 <spidey> linux is the same
16:24 <Compn> heh
16:24 <spidey> i break it to
16:24 <Compn> my friend is gonna major in CS
16:25 <Compn> hes in his 3rd or 4th year
16:25 <spidey> so neither os is user friendly
16:25 <swingle> how do you break linux?
16:25 <Compn> he still uses IE 
16:25 <spidey> how?
16:25 <spidey> simple
16:25 <spidey> it allows root
16:25 <spidey> something windows doesn't
16:25 <swingle> it allows root to do what?
16:25 <spidey> that's why my windows installs last longer
16:25 <spidey> root can do anything
16:25 <spidey> including rming the entire / dir
16:25 <swingle> can you be more specific?
16:25 <swingle> yep thats called rming the entire / dir 
16:25 <swingle> not a kernel crash
16:26 <spidey> lol
16:26 <spidey> as i sai
16:26 <Compn> #armaservers
16:26 <armabot> Compn: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
16:26 <Compn> goddamnit
16:26 <spidey> said, i've never had a ~system~ problem
16:26 <spidey> it's ~user~ related
16:26 <swingle> oh come on your system reboots when you run a program isnt that a system problem?
16:27 <spidey> so?
16:27 <spidey> linux isn't perfect when running programs
16:27 <spidey> i've had ubuntu, mepis, raw debian
16:27 <spidey> all fuck up when i use fluxbox
16:27 <spidey> does that mean the kernal unstable?
16:27 <spidey> no
16:27 <spidey> that means the apps fucked
16:27 <swingle> what do you mean by "fuck" ?
16:27 <spidey> or i installed it incorrectly
16:28 <swingle> an application not working can be acceptable
16:28 <swingle> but not a complete reboot
16:28 <Ady> hello to all 
16:28 <spidey> i installed fluxbox then got terminal spammed with errors
16:28 <Ady> #weather santander spain
16:28 <armabot> Ady: Temperature: 63.0°F / 17.2°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h | Updated: 4:16 PM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
16:28 <swingle> lol
16:28 <Ady> #more
16:28 <armabot> Ady: <http://www.ballofdirt.com/journeys/11387.html>; List of long- distance footpaths - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long-distance_footpaths>; Formula One news and comment from The Times and The Sunday Times ...: <http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,12069,00.html>; Unicycle Tours: <http://www.unitours.org/en/tours.php>; Cycling World Championships: (1 more message)
16:28 <swingle> Ady: you are from spain?
16:29 <Ady> yes
16:29 <swingle> yo tambien 
16:29 <Ady> #eliza hi
16:29 <armabot> Ady: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
16:29 <Compn> lol
16:29 <Compn> i joined some noob server
16:29 <Compn> and pwned em all twice ;\
16:29 <Ady> #eliza im good and you? 
16:29 <armabot> Ady: What do you think?
16:29 <Ady> :)
16:29 <spidey> Compn, lol
16:29 <Compn> #eliza you are sexy
16:29 <armabot> Compn: Why do you say i are sexy?
16:29 <spidey> i would ply
16:29 <spidey> only got 30 minutes
16:29 <spidey> gotta go take 3 tests at 11
16:29 <spidey> =/
16:29 <Ady> #insult spiday
16:29 <armabot> spiday - You are nothing but a wayward bucket of egg-sucking cat. 
16:29 <Compn> no one is online 
16:30 <Ady> lol
16:30 <spidey> #bitchslap Ady 
16:30 <swingle> Ady: that thing you are using works in english and spanish simultaneously?
16:30 <spidey> !
16:30 <Ady> english api only
16:30 <Ady> #serverinfo crazy tronners
16:30 <armabot> Ady: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (10/14): +ECT+ Drifter, +ECT+ Smooth, BinDistrib, BlingBling, CTxCrispyNoodle, Freedon Nadd, Puuquie, {Death}, |AST| W4z3r, |HTF|_Shaik
16:30 <spidey> #translate english spanish Temperature: 63.0°F / 17.2°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h | Updated: 4:16 PM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
16:30 <spidey> #translate
16:30 <spidey> erm
16:30 <armabot> spidey: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
16:31 <armabot> spidey: (translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
16:31 <Compn> blah no more arma
16:31 <Ady> #translate english to japanese suck my co*k
16:31 <spidey> wrtlprnft, armabot's broken
16:31 <armabot> Ady: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
16:31 <Ady> mh
16:31 <wrtlprnft> umm
16:31 <swingle> #translate spanish to english probando 1, 2
16:31 <spidey> #armaserver
16:31 <wrtlprnft> i dunno what's up with #translate
16:31 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
16:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (11 players) || =] ESAMU Armagetron World [= (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || armagetron.nixda.net (Original) (4 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (3 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (3 players) || Super Duck Fortress! (2 (1 more message)
16:31 <armabot> swingle: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
16:32 <wrtlprnft> it generally works, it seems. maybe just a temporary issue with the translation server
16:32 <swingle> yep
16:32 <Ady> ok
16:32 <swingle> which server do you use wrtlprnft ?
16:33 <Ady> #date d:mm:yy
16:33 <armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
16:33 <Ady> lol
16:33 <wrtlprnft> swingle: i dunno what it uses, it appears to be babelfish
16:34 <Ady> #dict ady
16:34 <armabot> Ady: No definition for "ady" could be found.
16:34 <swingle> #dict swingle
16:34 <Ady> im undefinable
16:34 <armabot> swingle: gcide: Swingle \Swin"gle\, v. i. [Freq. of swing.] 1. To dangle; to wave hanging. [Obs.] --Johnson. [1913 Webster] 2. To swing for pleasure. [Obs. or Prov. Eng.] [1913 Webster]; gcide: Swingle \Swin"gle\, n. A wooden instrument like a large knife, about two feet long, with one thin edge, used for beating and cleaning flax; a scutcher; -- called also {swingling knife}, {swingling staff}, and {swingling (1 more message)
16:34 <swingle> heh
16:34 <Ady> how was the register command in here
16:34 <Ady> #help register
16:34 <armabot> Ady: (register <name> <password>) -- Registers <name> with the given password <password> and the current hostmask of the person registering. You shouldn't register twice; if you're not recognized as a user but you've already registered, use the hostmask add command to add another hostmask to your already-registered user, or use the identify command to identify just for a session. This command (and all other commands (1 more message)
16:35 <Ady> #register Ady test
16:35 <armabot> Ady: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
16:35 <Ady> hm
16:37 <spidey> hmm
16:37 <spidey> Compn, wanna test something with me?
16:37 <spidey> i wanna see how well this 300mhz will run a tron server
16:39 <Ady> #g 3,2 Ghz in hz
16:39 <armabot> Ady: 3,2 gigahertz = 3,200,000,000 hertz
16:40 <Ady> #dict hz
16:40 <armabot> Ady: wn: Hz n : the unit of frequency; one Hertz has a periodic interval of one second [syn: {Hertz}, {cycle per second}, {cycles/second}, {cps}, {cycle}]
16:40 <Ady> 3200000000 herzs per second on my  machine :)
16:41 <spidey> Compn, ? =p
16:43 <Compn> spidey?
16:43 <Compn> sure
16:43 <Compn> ip?
16:44 <spidey> it should be on the list
16:44 <spidey> ~Spidey~
16:45 <spidey> actually it's not
16:45 <spidey> Compn, default port
16:46 <Compn> ok
16:48 <wrtlprnft> Ady: 1 hz per second = 1 hz^2 = 1/s^2 = 1/s/s ← doesn't make sense
16:48 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron
16:49 <Ady> isnt 1 hz one cycle per second
16:50 <wrtlprnft> yeah
16:50 <Ady> then what does not make sense
16:50 <wrtlprnft> and one hz per second would be one cycle per second per second
16:50 <Ady> heh
16:50 <wrtlprnft> that would be “acceleration” of frequency
16:50 <Ady> then only 3200000000 hz  on my pentium 4
16:50 <Ady> :P
16:51 <wrtlprnft> yep
16:51 <wrtlprnft> but according to luke-jr_ your frequency would be
16:51 <wrtlprnft> #g 3.2 * 2^30
16:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 3.2 * (2^30) = 3.43597384 * 10^(9)
16:52 <Ady> whats your frecuency?
16:53 <wrtlprnft> yours would be 3435973836.8 hz then
16:53 <Ady> and yours?
16:54 <wrtlprnft> 1.3GHz
16:54 <Ady> oh
16:54 <wrtlprnft> currently reporting 597.672 MHz for some reason
16:54 <spidey> o.O
16:54 <wrtlprnft> probably in power save mode
16:54 <spidey> heh
16:54 <Ady> my pentium almost burns this summer
16:55 <spidey> 300mhz with 64mb ram runs a tron  server perfectly
16:55 <spidey> o.O
16:55 <spidey> with winxp on it to =p
16:55 <Ady> record was 105º celsius in the nucle
16:55 <wrtlprnft> hmm, fan is turning and the air coming out isn't that hot…
16:56 <wrtlprnft> temperature:             42 C
16:56 <Ady> no, the filters was blocked with shit
16:56 <wrtlprnft> not hot at all
16:56 <Ady> that was the reason
16:56 <Ady> :P
16:56 <Ady> *was=were
16:56 <wrtlprnft> Ady: just cleaned my cooler a month or so when i got a new keyboard
16:57 <Ady> what GPU do you have
16:57 <Ady> i dont think that you play much but anyways im interested :P
16:57 <wrtlprnft> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
16:58 <Ady> #translate "what wrtlprnft said" to english
16:58 <armabot> Ady: (translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
16:58 <wrtlprnft> haha
16:58 <wrtlprnft> that's the output of lspci
16:58 <wrtlprnft> it appears to be a Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
16:58 <Ady> im asking the clock speed and memory...
16:58 <wrtlprnft> whatever that is
16:59 <wrtlprnft> i dunno :P
16:59 <Ady> :)
16:59 <wrtlprnft> and i don't care
16:59 <Ady> i want a radeon 512 mb, but i think that overclocking this one it will be enough :P
16:59 <wrtlprnft> can't overclock memory, though
17:00 <wrtlprnft> not that i know of at least
17:00 <Ady> memory is a bit useless, the rad 512 has more clock speed, thats what i want
17:00 <Ady> btw, are you really 17?
17:00 <Ady> #g 17*pi
17:00 <armabot> Ady: 17 * pi = 53.4070751
17:00 <Ady> :\
17:01 <luke-jr_> I'm not really 21
17:01 <luke-jr_> I'm 2E
17:01 <luke-jr_> err
17:01 <luke-jr_> 1e
17:01 <Ady> ...
17:01 <wrtlprnft> #base 16 2e
17:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 46
17:01 <wrtlprnft> #base 16 1e
17:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 30
17:01 <wrtlprnft> !
17:02 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: keep in mind you're not just changing bases
17:02 <luke-jr_> #g 30 hexyears in years
17:02 <armabot> luke-jr_: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:02 <luke-jr_> lame
17:02 <wrtlprnft> argh
17:02 <wrtlprnft> stfu
17:02 <luke-jr_> u
17:02 <wrtlprnft> the length of a year is constant!
17:02 <luke-jr_> nope
17:02 <luke-jr_> only in your messed up base 365.25
17:03 <wrtlprnft> it's not 365.25.
17:03 <luke-jr_> .24whatver
17:03 <wrtlprnft> every year ending in 0 has 365 days, except the ones divisble by 400
17:03 <wrtlprnft> or something like that
17:03 <luke-jr_> nope, that's an approximation
17:03 <luke-jr_> just like 3.14 "is" pi
17:04 <Ady> #g pi
17:04 <armabot> Ady: pi = 3.14159265
17:04 <luke-jr_> haha, google's less accurate than I am
17:04 <Ady> thats a lie
17:04 <luke-jr_> 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105 <-- mine memorized
17:04 <Ady> ...
17:04 <wrtlprnft> for most practical purposes pi IS 3.14159265
17:04 <Ady> #g e
17:04 <armabot> Ady: e = 2.71828183
17:04 <luke-jr_> 2 <-- my memory of e
17:04 <luke-jr_> ;p
17:04 <Ady> :P
17:05 <wrtlprnft> :P
17:05 <Ady> #dict :P
17:05 <armabot> Ady: wn, gcide, and foldoc responded: foldoc: P+ ["Experience with Remote Procedure Calls in a Real-Time Control System", B. Carpenter et al, Soft Prac & Exp 14(9):901-907 (Sep 1984)]; wn: P n 1: a multivalent nonmetallic element of the nitrogen family that occurs commonly in inorganic phosphate rocks and as organic phosphates in all living cells; is highly reactive and occurs in several allotropic forms (5 more messages)
17:05 <Ady> uff
17:05 <luke-jr_> lol
17:05 <spidey> Compn, it's up
17:05 <luke-jr_> #g pi^2
17:05 <armabot> luke-jr_: pi^2 = 9.8696044
17:05 <spidey> dunno about master list
17:05 <spidey> lemme check
17:05 <luke-jr_> #help base
17:05 <Ady> #g pi^piê
17:05 <armabot> luke-jr_: (base <fromBase> [<toBase>] <number>) -- Converts <number> from base <fromBase> to base <toBase>. If <toBase> is left out, it converts to decimal.
17:05 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:05 <luke-jr_> #base 10 16 pi
17:05 <armabot> luke-jr_: Error: Invalid <number> for base 10: pi
17:05 <Ady> #g pi^pi^e
17:05 <armabot> Ady: pi^(pi^e) = 1.46408874 * 10^(11)
17:05 <luke-jr_> lame
17:05 <luke-jr_> 3.243f <-- my memory if pi in hexadecimal
17:06 <luke-jr_> of*
17:06 <Ady> #hex 6
17:06 <luke-jr_> #base 10 16 3.14159265358979
17:06 <armabot> luke-jr_: Error: Invalid <number> for base 10: 3.14159265358979
17:06 <Ady> #g hex 6
17:06 <luke-jr_> #base 10 16 314159265358979
17:06 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:06 <armabot> luke-jr_: 11DB9E76A2483
17:06 <spidey> Compn, 
17:06 <luke-jr_> ok, decimal point required
17:06 <spidey> you see U.S.Fortress~default~ on the master list?
17:06 <spidey> o.O
17:06 <Ady> O.o
17:07 <wrtlprnft> spidey: it's not on my master
17:07 <spidey> askdjl;ksj
17:07 <spidey> i put talk_to_master 1 in autoexec.cfg
17:07 <spidey> =(
17:07 <Ady> firewall?
17:07 <Ady> :P
17:07 <spidey> no?
17:07 <luke-jr_> spidey: want me to host it again?
17:07 <Ady> no,no?
17:07 <spidey> it let Compn connect with the ip
17:07 <spidey> so it's not firewall =p
17:07 <Ady> happened to me
17:08 <Ady> i just restarted it about 10 times
17:08 <Ady> then worked
17:08 <Ady> :\
17:08 <wrtlprnft> spidey: ip?
17:08 <spidey>
17:08 <Ady> #ping
17:08 <armabot> pong
17:08 <spidey> port + 1
17:08 <luke-jr_> lol
17:08 <spidey> so it's whatever5
17:08 <luke-jr_> #pong
17:08 <armabot> ping
17:08 <wrtlprnft> greping
17:08 <Ady> #ping
17:08 <armabot> pong
17:09 <Ady> #piong
17:09 <luke-jr_> #alias add piong echo poing\
17:09 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
17:09 <luke-jr_> #alias add piong echo poing
17:09 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
17:09 <luke-jr_> #alias add poing echo piong
17:09 <Ady> #piong
17:09 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
17:09 <luke-jr_> @piong
17:09 <armabot> poing
17:09 <luke-jr_> #piong
17:09 <armabot> poing
17:09 <Ady> haha
17:09 <wrtlprnft> spidey: received your server a few times, never acknowledged
17:09 <Ady> #set mode +o Ady
17:09 <luke-jr_> #list alias
17:09 <spidey> =/
17:09 <armabot> luke-jr_: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
17:09 <wrtlprnft> nt
17:10 <spidey> what's that mean?
17:10 <wrtlprnft> dunno, means that the master couldn't connect to it
17:10 <luke-jr_> #uberinsult Ady 
17:10 <armabot> You are a spidey
17:10 <wrtlprnft> hahaha!
17:10 <spidey> =/
17:10 <Ady> #uberinsult
17:10 <armabot> You are a spidey
17:11 <Ady> hahaa
17:11 <Ady> #g x^2+x+3=0
17:11 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:12 <Ady> #g x+1=0
17:12 <armabot> Ady: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:12 <luke-jr_> x=0
17:12 <Ady> lol
17:12 <luke-jr_> x=-1
17:12 <Ady> 2^x=8, x=?
17:12 <luke-jr_> 3
17:12 <Ady> :P
17:13 <Ady> log 10^x=3
17:13 <spidey> wait wait
17:13 <Ady> hah
17:14 <Ady> slowies
17:14 <spidey> router didn't accept my port forward
17:14 <spidey> gay
17:14 <Ady> luke do you like maths?
17:16 <spidey> wrtlprnft, how about now?
17:17 <luke-jr_> ...
17:17 <wrtlprnft> spidey: sec
17:17 <luke-jr_> x = 1.3028834
17:17 <luke-jr_> I'm just typing these into Qalculate btw
17:17 <spidey> if that doesn't work i'll just dmz that box
17:18 <spidey> cause i disabled windows firewall
17:18 <wrtlprnft> spidey: still doesn't work
17:18 <spidey> >.>
17:20 <spidey> last attempt
17:21 <luke-jr_> before you host w/ me?
17:21 <spidey> no =p
17:21 <spidey> i'm not hosting for long
17:21 <spidey> just wanna see if 300mhz can run it with people in it
17:22 <spidey> with more than 2
17:22 <spidey> anyways
17:22 <spidey> wrtlprnft, now? =/
17:23 <spidey> wait
17:23 <spidey> do i need tcp opened for the master server?
17:25 <spidey> it's sad when you forget how to host a tron server =))
17:26 <wrtlprnft> i don't think so, now
17:27 <wrtlprnft> *no
17:27 <spidey> hm
17:27 <spidey> lets see if it advertises on lan game
17:27 <wrtlprnft> still not
17:27 <wrtlprnft> though now it says [2006/11/09 17:20:41] [1] Updated server:
17:27 <spidey> weird
17:27 <spidey> it advertises lan
17:28 <spidey> there can't be a firewall
17:28 <spidey> i disabled it >.>
17:28 <spidey> wait
17:28 <spidey> if it where a firewall it wouldn't show lan either, right?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> well, if outside people can connect?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> s/?/…/
17:30 <spidey> yea
17:30 <spidey> Compn, did
17:31 <wrtlprnft> i can, too
17:31 <spidey> 'er
17:33 <spidey> TALK_TO_MASTER 1
17:33 <spidey> SERVER_NAME U.S.Fortress~default~
17:33 <spidey> ADMIN_PASS 
17:33 <spidey> include examples\cvs_test\fortress_complete.cfg
17:33 <spidey> my autoexec.cfg o.O
17:33 <Ady> talk_to_master has to be edited in dedicated config file
17:33 <spidey> no
17:33 <spidey> you don't edit dedicated_config
17:34 <Ady> i just say
17:34 <spidey> you make a autoexec.cfg and put all your settings in there
17:34 <spidey> =p
17:34 <Ady> autoexec changes settings after server starts
17:34 <spidey> doesn't matter
17:34 <Ady> changing talk to master doesnt change anything while the server is running
17:34 <spidey> it still loads it before it connects
17:34 <spidey> it loads autoexec as soon as it's started
17:34 <Ady> ok
17:34 <spidey> wrtlprnft, tell him =p
17:34 <Ady> lol!
17:35 <Ady> -.-
17:35 <Ady> im testing vopice commands
17:35 <Ady> "cat face" is this
17:35 <Ady> -.-
17:35 <Ady> lol is this one
17:35 <Ady> lOl!
17:35 <Ady> :P
17:35 <Compn> it misspelled voice?
17:35 <Ady> no
17:35 <Compn> ah
17:35 <Ady> it works perfectly
17:36 <Ady> even with my spanish accent
17:36 <Compn> exclamation point! exclamation point!
17:36 <wrtlprnft> Ady: it should work if you change it while the server's running
17:36 <Compn> hehe
17:36 <Ady> well, wrt it doesnt
17:36 <Ady> lol!
17:36 <spidey> it does so
17:37 <spidey> i've hosted a server before =p
17:37 <spidey> it's just not working this time o.O
17:37 <wrtlprnft> in dem wo src drin ist
17:37 <Ady> I'm pasting dictator testing
17:37 <Ady> ich bin professional nutte
17:38 <spidey> Ady, also if he sees the server sending a request on his master server
17:38 <spidey> that means there's nothing wrong with the config
17:38 <spidey> it's something else
17:38 <spidey> =p
17:38 <wrtlprnft> that last line wasn't for you
17:38 <Ady> that something else disappeared when i put talk to master 1 in dedicated.cfg :\
17:39 <Ady> or just in settings.cfg
17:39 <spidey> then our something elses are different
17:39 <spidey> obviously
17:40 <wrtlprnft> Ady: make a file called server_info.cfg
17:40 <wrtlprnft> and put the master line in there
17:40 <Ady> i think something else of spidey/something else of ady=1 :P
17:40 <spidey> Ady, you're wrong
17:40 <wrtlprnft> if you put it into settings_custom.cfg it'll be loaded to late, and you aren't supposed to edit settings_dedicated.cfg
17:40 <Ady> no, i dont have that problem now
17:40 <spidey> because 
17:40 <spidey> for one
17:40 <spidey> i have it in both autoexec AND dedicated_whatever
17:41 <spidey> i have the whole time, actually
17:41 <Ady> i think something else of spidey/something else of ady= x :\
17:41 <Ady> #topic
17:41 <spidey> besides, wrtl sees it, something's just stopping my server from responding
17:42 <Ady> could be your 300mhz? :P
17:42 <wrtlprnft> nah
17:42 <spidey> no?
17:42 <Ady> a 300mhz is like a retaded guy running a F1 race...
17:43 <spidey> that's what you think
17:43 <Ady> or *driving in
17:43 <Ady> i dont think, i suggest
17:43 <Ady> sugest*
17:43 <spidey> the processor has nothing to do with it
17:43 <spidey> k?
17:43 <Ady> dont shot me!
17:43 <Ady> :P
17:44 <wrtlprnft> spidey: did you try restarting it?
17:44 <spidey> lots of times =p
17:44 <Ady> #weather Infierno
17:44 <spidey> lemme try again
17:44 <armabot> Ady: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "Infierno".
17:44 <spidey> now?
17:45 <Ady> the 2armagetron" name was idea of lucifer?
17:48 <Ady> #dial 943663726
17:48 <Ady> any of you fancy some conver in skype?
17:48 <spidey> i don't use skype
17:49 <Ady> so you have phone?
17:49 <spidey> ?
17:49 <Ady> *do
17:49 <spidey> yes but you're not getting my number =p
17:49 <Ady> THC would give it to me by entering ur IP :P
17:50 <spidey>
17:50 <Ady> open port 25  o.O
17:50 <spidey> ...
17:51 <spidey> yes it's the router ident daemon
17:51 <Ady> its the mail port...
17:51 <spidey> it's the router
17:51 <Ady> whatever...
17:52 <Ady> i bet that you are not able to delete some guys HDD
17:52 <Ady> try with :P
17:52 <spidey> ...
17:53 <Ady> why do you want a server
17:54 <spidey> was you daydreaming through the whole conversation?
17:54 <Ady> i was working
17:54 <spidey> involving portscanning?
17:54 <Ady> i dont do that things now
17:55 <spidey> ......
17:55 <spidey> i gotta go
17:55 <spidey> test on books
17:55 <Ady> but used to much time ago, when i was a damaged-brain kid
17:55 <spidey> bah
17:55 <spidey> bbl
17:55 <Ady> cya
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18:52 <wrtlprnft>
18:52 <wrtlprnft> argh
18:53 <wrtlprnft> sorry, wrong channel again
18:54 <spidey> back
18:54 <spidey> xD
19:04 <spidey> hrm
19:04 <spidey> reboot
19:05 <spidey> in a sec
19:05 <spidey> o.O
19:07 <spidey> ?xplorer.exe   << rofl@spyware 
19:11 <luke-jr_work> um
19:11 <luke-jr_work> good luck deleting tha
19:11 <luke-jr_work> t
19:12 <luke-jr_work> w/o deleting explorer.exe
19:14 <spidey> ..
19:15 <spidey> the fuck you on about?
19:20 <luke-jr_work> del ?xplorer.exe will delete both
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19:30 <Compn> haha
19:30 <Compn> its easy to get around that
19:30 <Compn> dir /x
19:30 <Compn> del _xplor~1.exe 
19:30 <Compn> ;p
19:30 <Compn> dir /x pwns
19:36 <luke-jr_work> you assume it's not really ?xplorer.exe :p
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19:39 <swingle> hmmm the web page seem sto be broken
19:40 <swingle> --> Warning: main(functions.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/groups/a/ar/armagetronad/htdocs/includes/header.php on line 
19:40 <swingle> oh, it got fixed in the second reload
19:43 <swingle> where is the code:blocks project file for arma?
19:52 <luke-jr_work> in svn like everything else
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19:54 <swingle> i meant where in the tree but ive found it already :)
19:54 <spidey> dude
19:54 <spidey> you know what i love
19:54 <swingle> my problem now is it wont compile
19:55 <spidey> i love it when dumbass's make there virus/spyware/trojan show up in start > run > msconfig > startup tab
19:55 <swingle> hehe
19:55 <spidey> made my life alot easier
19:55 <spidey> :D:D
19:56 <luke-jr_work> lol
19:56 <luke-jr_work> swingle, well, most of us don't care to support Windoze
19:56 <swingle> where can i get a gcc for windows that can build arma?
19:56 <luke-jr_work> swingle, I think there's like 2 Win devs
19:56 <spidey> wait
19:56 <luke-jr_work> um, doesn't it come w/ codeblocks
19:56 <luke-jr_work> ?
19:56 <swingle> luke-jr_work: i wouldnt care either but there are no linux drivers for my modem
19:57 <spidey> so swingle's a linux guy that hates windows but uses it as a main computer?
19:57 <luke-jr_work> you use dialup?
19:57 <swingle> so i have to chose between using windoze or beeing incommunicated
19:57 <spidey> o.O
19:57 <swingle> yep :(((
19:57 <spidey> you can use dialup
19:57 <spidey> with linux
19:57 <spidey> ...
19:57 <swingle> not with my modem
19:57 <luke-jr_work> spidey, not without a modem
19:57 <swingle> its an old conexant chipset
19:57 <spidey> luke-jr_work, no....shit...
19:57 <luke-jr_work> swingle, you know modems are like $10?
19:57 <spidey> you can't use dialup without a modem anyways
19:57 <spidey> =p
19:57 <swingle> yep i should go and buy one
19:57 <luke-jr_work> spidey, in Windoze you can
19:58 <swingle> but there are very few real modems out there
19:58 <luke-jr_work> Windoze lets you use phone lines as modems
19:58 <swingle> most of them are winmodems
19:58 <luke-jr_work> swingle, BTW, there's illegal drivers for Conexant modems
19:58 <spidey> anyways
19:58 <luke-jr_work> err, phone lines
19:58 <spidey> i have a serial modem
19:58 <spidey> for dialup
19:59 <spidey> i used ages ago
19:59 <luke-jr_work> all modems are serial
19:59 <swingle> luke-jr_work: where can i find those drivers?
19:59 <spidey> don't ask him that
19:59 <spidey> he'll start on about how they're immoral
19:59 <luke-jr_work> swingle, portage?
19:59 <swingle> haha
19:59 <swingle> luke-jr_work: those are the linuxant drivers
19:59 <luke-jr_work> spidey, better one immoral driver than an entire immoral OS
19:59 <swingle> and they are limited to 14kbps without paying
19:59 <spidey> here we go
19:59 <swingle> i dont have the time to reverse them
20:00 <swingle> btw you use gentoo too?
20:00 <luke-jr_work> swingle, so use the crack
20:00 <spidey> wait
20:00 <spidey> luke-jr_work, thought you wouldn't use windows
20:00 <luke-jr_work> spidey, I don't?
20:01 <swingle> i didnt find that crack last time i checked
20:01 <spidey> but i know you have win98, remembering from the other day
20:01 <swingle> are you sure theres a working crack for those drivers?
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20:02 <spidey> 7well
20:03 <spidey> i thought that300mhz could be overclocked to 410mhz
20:03 <spidey> but the fastest i could get it was 375mhz
20:03 <swingle> what happened when you reached 375?
20:03 <swingle> melted chip?
20:03 <spidey> no?
20:03 <spidey> it got loud and all the fans kicked in
20:03 <spidey> so i put a box fan on it
20:04 <spidey> it's not doing much anymore
20:04 <spidey> heh
20:04 <swingle> :)
20:04 <spidey> it's like 70 degrees in my room
20:04 <swingle> you need to get some cold beer from the refrigetator then
20:04 <spidey> there isn't anymore
20:05 <swingle> wow, you have crisis then
20:05 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: GodTodd, Niii, [dlh], luke-jr_work, z-manuel
20:05 <spidey> my grandma threw it all away cause it's been there since mylast birthday =/
20:05 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Niii, z-manuel, GodTodd, [dlh], luke-jr_work
20:05 <swingle> hmmm strange guy this spidey, windows user, overclocker, non beer drinker ...
20:06 <spidey> pot smoker
20:06 <spidey> =p
20:06 <swingle> lol
20:06 <swingle> nah thats normal :p
20:06 <spidey> hm
20:06 <spidey> well
20:06 <spidey> that's about it
20:06 <luke-jr_work> beer sucks
20:06 <spidey> i don't like to drink, cause i can't control myself
20:06 <spidey> as where when i smoke pot i can
20:06 <spidey> but still get the high =p
20:07 <swingle> i wasnt talking about getting drunk
20:07 <spidey> well
20:07 <spidey> beer sucks
20:07 <luke-jr_work> so what did I miss during the netsplit?
20:07 <spidey> nothing?
20:07 <luke-jr_work> spidey, copycat
20:07 <spidey> well it does
20:07 <spidey> =p
20:07 <swingle> luke-jr_work: all the naked girls are gone now sorry
20:08 <luke-jr_work> good
20:08 <luke-jr_work> they need to get some clothes on
20:08 <swingle> we had a towel party
20:08 <spidey> swingle, incase you didn't know
20:08 <spidey> luke-jr_, is a fag
20:08 <luke-jr_work> bs
20:08 <luke-jr_work> don't you try smoking me
20:08 <swingle> heh
20:09 <spidey> only guy i know that bitches cause a girl got naked
20:09 <spidey> fag
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20:09 <swingle> well, it depends on the girl
20:09 <spidey> he doesn't care
20:09 <spidey> lol
20:09 <swingle> i know some girls i wouldnt like to see naked
20:09 <spidey> that's another story
20:09 <spidey> =p
20:09 <luke-jr_work> sure I do
20:09 <luke-jr_work> if it's my wife, in our bedroom, that's one thing ...
20:10  * Ady slaps luke
20:10 <spidey> good job
20:10 <swingle> yep, let the spanking begin ...
20:11 <swingle> its so damn difficult to compile something on windows
20:11 <swingle> i hating it more by moments
20:11 <Ady> swingle: garo?
20:11 <swingle> garo??
20:12 <Ady> como te llamas
20:12 <swingle> dani, no me conoces
20:12 <Ady> nunca te he visto jugar
20:12 <swingle> juego como siro
20:12 <Ady> ah,entonces si :P
20:12 <swingle> :)
20:12 <Ady> de donde?
20:13 <swingle> con el modem es un poco frustrante jugar asi que no practico tanto como querria
20:13 <swingle> de madrid, tu?
20:13 <Ady> cantabria
20:13 <swingle> ok
20:13 <Ady> edad?
20:13 <swingle> nombre, edad, profesion? :p
20:13 <spidey> Virtual Memory: Max Size:  4,977 MB
20:13 <spidey> O.O
20:13 <swingle> 23
20:13 <luke-jr_work> wtf
20:14 <Ady> y sigues jugando a juegos con 23 años? :\
20:14 <spidey> putting this empty 20gig partition to work
20:14 <spidey> lol
20:14 <swingle> jaja y lo que me queda 
20:14 <swingle> tu cuantos tienes?
20:14 <Ady> es un secreto :D
20:14 <swingle> anda ya
20:14  * Ady anda
20:15 <swingle> joe pues dimelo por un privado
20:15  * Ady no está autorizado a decirlo.
20:15 <spidey> O.O
20:15 <swingle> ya veo, yo te digo nombre y edad y tu no sueltas nada ei
20:15  * spidey breaks out the translator
20:16 <swingle> deberiamos hablar en ingles para que la gente se entere
20:16 <Ady> ok
20:16 <swingle> you wont need the translator eny more
20:16 <Ady> stills broken?
20:17 <swingle> that was enough spanish for today :)
20:17 <Ady> #translate english to japanese hi
20:17 <armabot> Ady: '\x00\x00'
20:17 <Ady> :P
20:17 <Ady> #translate japanese to english \x010100x\
20:17 <armabot> Ady: \x010100x\
20:17 <spidey> O.O
20:18 <Ady> #translate english to russian spider
20:18 <armabot> Ady: '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00'
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20:19 <Ady> thats more like "tarakan"
20:19 <Ady> #eliza i love you
20:19 <armabot> Ady: Please, describe your relationship with me.
20:20 <Ady> #uberinsult ady
20:20 <armabot> You are a spidey
20:22 <Ady> time to work, bye all, keep sleeping :P
20:22 <swingle> cya
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20:38 <swingle> if i want to compile arma using gcc on windows should i define WIN32 ?
20:39 <luke-jr_work> your compiler should
20:39 <swingle> its giving me some compile errors
20:39 <swingle> it doesnt define NAN
20:39 <swingle> and isBlank() is redefined in the code
20:40 <luke-jr_work> it's quite possible the current Svn is broken on Win
20:40 <luke-jr_work> like I said, we don't usually support it
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20:55 <wrtlprnft> anyone ever heard of a CPU going down to half its usual clock speed and refusing to go back?
20:57 <swingle> that happens to centrinos sometimes
20:57 <swingle> the speedstep driver is broken on some linux kernels i think
20:58 <wrtlprnft> hmm, it's a pentium m
20:58 <swingle> yep thats it
20:58 <wrtlprnft> Linux laptop #3 PREEMPT Mon Sep 11 16:10:58 CEST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1300MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
20:58 <wrtlprnft> is it that recent?
20:59 <swingle> i bought mine 2 years ago
20:59 <wrtlprnft> no, i mean, is it fixed in the current kernel, do you know anything about it?
20:59 <wrtlprnft> the processor is some 3 years old
21:00 <swingle> can you show me the output of lsmod?
21:01 <swingle> and the list of modules you compiled with your kernel
21:01 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/lsmod
21:01 <wrtlprnft> uh, where do i get that list?
21:01 <swingle> i think it was modprobe -l 
21:02 <wrtlprnft> yep
21:02 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/modprobe-l
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21:03 <Program> woo, java in firefox
21:03 <swingle> try this: modprobe speedstep-centrino
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21:03 <swingle> then show me the output of lsmod and dmesg|tail
21:03 <wrtlprnft> nice!
21:04 <wrtlprnft> thanks a lot!
21:04 <swingle> :)
21:04 <wrtlprnft> the frequency is showing up correctly again, still need the output?
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21:04 <swingle> nah i needed it to check if it worked
21:04 <swingle> you should autoload that module on start
21:05 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
21:05 <swingle> ok
21:05 <wrtlprnft> done :)
21:06 <swingle> wd
21:06 <swingle> what distro do you use?
21:06 <wrtlprnft> gentoo
21:06 <wrtlprnft> /etc/modules.autoload :)
21:06 <swingle> yep
21:06 <wrtlprnft> ah, now klaptop also shows the performance profiles again :)
21:06 <swingle> i prefer gnome
21:07 <swingle> it has a small applet you can put on your panel
21:07 <wrtlprnft> yeah, kde too, and it's called klaptop
21:07 <swingle> i miss my gentoo, damn winmodem ...
21:07 <swingle> sigh
21:07 <wrtlprnft> can't get another one?
21:07 <wrtlprnft> a real modem, that is
21:08 <swingle> i havent found it
21:08 <swingle> all i find are winmodems
21:08 <wrtlprnft> if you're german: http://www.tuxhardware.de/category73_158/product1256/product_info.html
21:08 <swingle> im spanish :)
21:09 <swingle> from spain not mexico
21:09 <wrtlprnft> well, you could search for the model name or something
21:10 <wrtlprnft> Conceptronic C56EW
21:14 <swingle> it looks like what i need
21:14 <swingle> thx
21:15 <wrtlprnft> yw
21:20 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (11 players) || Norm's Place (10 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || armagetron.nixda.net (Original) (9 players) || Nixda.net - Sumo Server (6 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (5 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (5 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || The Lobster (1 more message)
21:21 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
21:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.31in / 992hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM AST; Tonight - Periods of drizzle ending this evening then cloudy with a few showers beginning overnight. Local amount 2 mm. Fog patches. Low 10.; Friday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of showers early in the morning. Wind (1 more message)
21:21 <Vanhayes> #more
21:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: becoming northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40 in the morning. Temperature steady near 10. Friday night..a few clouds. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the evening. Low plus 1.; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 11.;
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22:03 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
22:03 <armabot> madmax|pt: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Nixda.net - Sumo Server (9 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || armagetron.nixda.net (Original) (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (5 players) || The Lobster Cage (4 players) || =] ESAMU Armagetron (1 more message)
22:04 <madmax|pt> #serverdetails nixda
22:04 <armabot> madmax|pt: Nixda.net - Sumo Server: Players (9/16): -|ct|- play, newbÎd, xS delarge, |AST| FoFo, ~*<y<lo*~, ~luAp~, ~{GP}~woorm.bot, °°Gay-Lin, °°qain
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22:52 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: beta.aa.net down?
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22:52 <ghableska> hello
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> hello
22:53 <wrtlprnft> hi
22:53 <Vanhayes> hey
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/images/e/e0/Technologies.png
22:54 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, yes
22:54 <ghableska> O_O
22:54 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, that's not all, I'm sure
22:54 <luke-jr_work> my wife messed up the network at home
22:54 <luke-jr_work> :\
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> she did that by taking off her clothes?
22:55 <luke-jr_work> I told her to take one of the cable modems to our new apt
22:55 <luke-jr_work> somehow that got a switch unplugged, I think
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> didn't you know women are too stupid to be trusted with any technology?
22:56 <luke-jr_work> stfu Lucifer_arma 
22:57 <ghableska> :P
22:57 <luke-jr_work> maybe your wife is
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's after Architectural Engineering :)
23:08 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
23:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.31in / 993hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM AST; Tonight - Periods of drizzle ending this evening then cloudy with a few showers beginning overnight. Local amount 2 mm. Fog patches. Low 10.; Friday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of showers early in the morning. Wind (1 more message)
23:08 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:08 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 57.2°F (3:54 PM CST on November 09, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa. 
23:08 <Vanhayes> #more
23:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: becoming northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40 in the morning. Temperature steady near 10. Friday night..a few clouds. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the evening. Low plus 1.; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 11.;
23:11 <Vanhayes> argh, no car and its raining out :(
23:11 <ghableska> walk :P
23:11 <ghableska> it's good for you
23:22 <Vanhayes> not in the rain
23:22 <ghableska> psh
23:23 <Vanhayes> the rink is like 2 kilometers away
23:23 <ghableska> oh
23:23 <ghableska> #g 2 km in mi
23:23 <armabot> ghableska: 2 kilometers = 1.24274238 mi
23:27 <Vanhayes> hmm, might still go if I can scrounge some money tho
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