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Log from 2006-11-03:
--- Day changed Fri Nov 03 2006
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00:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
00:07 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
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00:14 <Compn> #armaservers
00:14 <armabot> Compn: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (7 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Server (6 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || (1 more message)
00:16 <Compn> ug
00:16 <Compn> wild west wild fort?
00:16 <Compn> what happened to regular?
00:21 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig accel
00:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_ACCEL: Wall acceleration factor (default: 10) || CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your enemies' walls (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_OFFSET: Minimum numeric wall distance, must be positive (default: 2) || CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for the rim (3 more messages)
00:21 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: walls (default: 0) || CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your own wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT: Multiplicator to the total effect of (2 more messages)
00:21 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_ACCEL, if the cycle is between its own wall and another wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your temmates' walls (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM differs from its default? (default: (1 more message)
00:21 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TUNNEL: Multiplicator to the total effect of CYCLE_ACCEL, if the cycle is between two walls not created by it (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TUNNEL_OVERRIDE: cycle_accel_tunnel_override_help (default: 3)
00:22 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig mindistance
00:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE: The minimal distance rubber code keeps you from the wall in front of you (default: 0.001) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_LEGACY: Extra factor for minimal distance to walls enforced by the rubber code, active when peers with the rip bug are connected (default: 1) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE differs from its default? (4 more messages)
00:23 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_PREPARATION: Timescale in seconds a cycle's last turn time is compared with to determine the effect of CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED. (default: 0.2) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_PREPARATION_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_PREPARATION differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RATIO: Additional (3 more messages)
00:23 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: distance to CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE for every length unit of the wall you have in front of you (default: 1e-04) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RATIO_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RATIO differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RESERVOIR: Addidional distance if you have an empty rubber meter (gets faded out gradually as you use up all your rubber) (2 more messages)
00:23 <wrtlprnft> #more
00:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (default: 0.005) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RESERVOIR_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_RESERVOIR differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED: Additional distance for unprepared grinds; it gets applied when the cycle's last turn was just a fraction of a second ago and faded out preparation times larger than (1 more message)
00:32 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, what are you talking about?
00:34 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, z-man implemented the error, but I still would defend it triggering ;p
00:34 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, though I fully agree an error shouldn't kick players
00:52 <wrtlprnft> well, it shuts down the entire server
00:52 <wrtlprnft> print a visible message that you can't miss, ok, but don't affect the players
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00:57 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, good idea (even if an old one)
00:57 <luke-jr_work> let me know when it works :)
00:57 <luke-jr_work> it should apply to invalid maps too
00:57 <luke-jr_work> btw
00:57 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/fortress/sumo_spiral-1.aamap.xml
00:57  * wrtlprnft loves inkscape
00:58 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: well, invalid maps are a serious failure, but some unimportant resource filepath crap isn't that important
00:58 <wrtlprnft> something unimportant isn't that important, heh
00:59 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, resource filepath is quite important
01:00 <luke-jr_work> I think there was a problem that prompted z-man putting the check in place
01:00 <Your_mom_arma> luke  can you perma ai me on 1tpd as i kinda gave up on it
01:00 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma, LAME
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> so boring
01:01 <luke-jr_work> only cuz you make each turn take 23 hrs
01:01 <luke-jr_work> which is why I gladly AI you
01:01 <luke-jr_work> now we might make some real progress
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> luke i cant remember the last time i took a turn
01:01 <luke-jr_work> 24 then
01:02  * luke-jr_work ponders polling /set timeout 43200
01:02 <luke-jr_work> nah, I'd miss turns like that
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01:11 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: ya ai me too, just too boring for me
01:12 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, now that your mom is gone it shouldn't be
01:12 <luke-jr_work> unless you take his place in being slow
01:13  * wrtlprnft will take it
01:13 <wrtlprnft> but i think it's quite boring either way
01:16 <Vanhayes> well ai me or dont, I doubt ill come back to it
01:17 <Vanhayes> to much hassle finding the host then going into my logs to get that long unmemorable pass, for only at most 5 min of play
01:22 <wrtlprnft> yeah
01:22 <wrtlprnft> you can do the host, port and username with command line options, though
01:23 <wrtlprnft> civclient -s hachi.dashjr.org -p 5550 -n wrtlprnft
01:23 <wrtlprnft> but not the pass, which is the most unmemorable of them all
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02:07 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
02:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || [Sol Draconis]¤£ (6 players) || The Lobster Cage (6 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || -=:[Welknown Server]:=- (3 players) || (1 more message)
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> [18:02] <luke-jr_work> only cuz you make each turn take 23 hrs
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> [18:02] <luke-jr_work> which is why I gladly AI you
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> [18:02] <luke-jr_work> now we might make some real progress
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> so you don't really want a 1 turn per day game?
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> you offered us 1 turn per day, but you expect to get, say, 5 turns per day instead?
02:46  * Lucifer_arma is playing a game that seems to only get 5 turns per day, but that's because it's in modern warfare against a smallpoxed ai, turns naturally take a long time.
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03:16 <Lucifer_arma> we now have the gift of ghableska 
03:17 <ghableska> hmm?
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
03:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 53.4°F (8:15 PM CST on November 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa. 
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's getting downright cold now
03:17 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:18 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 30.2°F (7:54 PM CST on November 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.41 in 1030 hPa. 
03:18 <ghableska> heh
03:21 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
03:21 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 44.2°F (8:22 PM CST on November 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa. 
03:21 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
03:22 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 32.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Wind: CLM at 0 mph (0 km/h).
03:22 <ghableska> how current is "current," exactly?
03:22 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: I said from the start it's 1tpd minimum
03:44 <GodTodd> that's not how you put it to me
03:44 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6112338.stm heh
03:47 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: no, I probably asked you after the point where I got tired of typing it all out and just said "1tpd"
03:47 <luke-jr_> and you probably were like "wtf is that?"
03:47 <GodTodd> bullshit
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> he's a fag
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> what you should write is "1tpdm"
03:48 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: you said it was 1 tpd and i said that theoretically it could be more since turns end when everyone moves and you said 'yes i suppose so'
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6111540.stm
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> Boy George needs to hook up with that preacher
03:51 <ghableska> hahaha
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> kivio or dia
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> I want to make a flowchart of techs
04:00 <GodTodd> heh civ 1 came with one iirc
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> NRG2 2244  MW        3:10pm- 4:50pm OH McGuff, Marcus D  <--- Finally, something seems to be going right
04:00 <GodTodd> civ 2 for playstation did too
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> It's at Northridge in a good timeslot with the teacher I already knew was teaching it
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> may as well put that in my plan while I'm thinking about it
04:01 <GodTodd> that for next semester already?
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> yep
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> and his dad has the diff eq class I *should* take if I take it next semester
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> (I have his dad for calc 3)
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's calc 4, in case you were wondering
04:01 <GodTodd> hmmm i can't reg for mine until around thanksgiving :/
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> can't register yet, but the schedule's up so we can plan
04:02 <GodTodd> i'll have to double check my eschedule then
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> I got an 85 on my calc test earlier this week and I kicked the ass out of the half-test we had today
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> still have to retake part of the first test, but I'm looking good for an A right now.  At least looking good for failing the first test so badly
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> 2 distance learning classes next semester
04:04  * Lucifer_arma digs up the honors program schedule
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok, sent that email.  :)  Hopefully I'll be cleared before it's even time to register.
04:11 <GodTodd> cleared for?
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> 2 honors classes.  You have to be cleared for honors classes
04:18 <GodTodd> ahhh
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> they're both distance learnign classes.  African American Writers and US Campaigns and Elections
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> so this summer it's diff eq and statics
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> looks like I can register starting November 15
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> I better put that on my calendar
04:26 <GodTodd> i can't even see the schedule for winter or spring yet :/
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> ur skool is l4me
04:27 <GodTodd> :P
04:27 <GodTodd> is that the ACC snobbery coming out? ;)
04:27 <GodTodd> heh
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> practicing.  I want to fit in when I get to UT
04:28 <GodTodd> haha
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> KINE 1118  Fencing I
04:29 <Lucifer_arma>  25     [  0/ 25] 47183 Lec 002|11452 NRG  NRG2 2102  F         5:15pm- 7:45pm OH Meister, Kermit W
04:29 <GodTodd> you can fince with kermit?
04:30 <GodTodd> fence*
04:30 <GodTodd> that's just wrong
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> I have to do it
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> I have to take fencing next semester
04:31 <ghableska> o.0
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> even if I don't go to A&M, I still have to take fencing
04:31 <GodTodd> cuz you need a fence?
04:31 <GodTodd> heh
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> alright, I'm adding it to my degree plan
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> that makes 15 credit hours next semester
04:34 <GodTodd> holy crap...dunno if i'm going to go that hight
04:34 <GodTodd> high*
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04:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm hoping the fencing class will help me get in shape and pick up a nice sport
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> at the very least, I can answer the ads in the paper that ask for a swordsman
04:35 <GodTodd> haha
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> and of course neither UT nor A&M offer fencing, so no matter what I can always one-up anyone there :)
04:41 <GodTodd> "needed, one swordsman.  must be willing to swear fealty to a benevolent overlord.  must have experience protecting an obviously weak main member of the party."
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> that out of Glory Road?
04:41 <GodTodd> no
04:41 <GodTodd> outta me
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> I'll bet it's out of Glory Road :P
04:42 <GodTodd> what's glory road?
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> Heinlein book
04:42 <GodTodd> hmmm
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> *crappy Heinlein book
04:42 <GodTodd> never read that one
04:43 <GodTodd> it's mine...but molded kind of out of the magic kingdom of landover
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> which was in turn copied from Glory Road, shame on yoU!
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> (heh)
04:43 <GodTodd> :P
04:44  * Lucifer_arma read Glory Road just so he'd understand half of his mom's literary references but was bored to tears reading it
04:44 <GodTodd> is it worth reading just to read?
04:44 <GodTodd> or not so much?
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was like 14-15, it might be wonderfully entertaining to a 31-yo
04:44 <GodTodd> i'll have to look for it
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05:14 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
05:14 <armabot> pong
05:14 <DrJoeTron> #pong
05:14 <armabot> ping
05:15 <DrJoeTron> check that game out?
05:15 <GodTodd> games suck
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
05:16 <armabot> pong
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> #pong
05:16 <armabot> ping
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> neat game, joe
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> why would mtab be empty?
05:24 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma ?
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> you were talking about armabot's ping pong game, right?
05:24 <DrJoeTron> was talking to Your_mom_arma 
05:25 <DrJoeTron> i sent him a link to a shmup 
05:52 <Your_mom_arma> which i never clicked
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> you never clicked it?!?!?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> have you ever seen a cockasaurus rex wearing a cowboy hat?
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab, going to install mandriva now
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07:39 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
07:39 <armabot> pong
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07:51 <Lucifer_arma> yay, back in Mandriva finally
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08:45 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
08:45 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 37.2°F (1:46 AM CST on November 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa.  Freeze warning in effect until 9 am CST Friday... 
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10:59 <wrtlprnft> weird, my apache died without any log entry…
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> that means segfault :)
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
11:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 43.9°F (4:25 AM CST on November 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa. 
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> brrrr
11:28 <wrtlprnft> apache isn't supposed to segfault
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11:49 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't mean it doesn't.  I've had php scripts cause it to segfault.  :/
11:59 <Lucifer_arma> Even if resveratrol does turn out to be a miracle drug, a wine glass would probably not be the preferred delivery method. According to Kaeberlein, it would take over 300 glasses of wine per day to equal the amount of resveratrol fed to the obese mice in this study.  <-- I can go for that!
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16:38 <spidey> o.O
16:40 <guru3> haha
16:40  * spidey yawns
16:44 <guru3> indeed
16:54 <spidey> man
16:54 <spidey> last night
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16:54 <spidey> i played xbox 360 and drank this nasty ass beer, all day =|
16:55 <guru3> haha
16:55 <spidey> need for speed most wanted is cool
16:55 <guru3> not played it
16:56 <spidey> and my uncle gets hang overs when he drinks, i never have got one...so i get to annoy the piss out of him xD
16:57 <guru3> haha
16:57  * luke-jr_work sits on guru3's head
16:58 <guru3> oy
16:58 <luke-jr_work> hmm?
16:58 <guru3> no fair to sit on my head
16:58 <luke-jr_work> I'm not heavy!
16:58 <guru3> everyone lies about their weight
16:58 <luke-jr_work> ...
16:59 <luke-jr_work> ok, I weigh 2 tons then
16:59 <luke-jr_work> ;p
16:59 <spidey> i wouldn't doubt it
16:59 <spidey> xD
16:59 <guru3> haha
17:00 <luke-jr_work> really, I weigh around 100 lbs
17:01 <guru3> quite light
17:01 <spidey> that's what they all say
17:01 <spidey> =p
17:01 <luke-jr_work> or did before my wife insisted on increasing that
17:01 <guru3> i'm about 165
17:01 <luke-jr_work> she didn't manage to add much IMO, but I haven't been on a scale recently
17:01 <luke-jr_work> >.>
17:01 <guru3> hrhr
17:01 <spidey> your wife sounds hot
17:02 <spidey> to bad i lost your number
17:02 <spidey> =p
17:02 <luke-jr_work> lol
17:02 <luke-jr_work> why's that?
17:02 <spidey> i'd have to start hitting on her =p
17:02 <luke-jr_work> btw, my wife is anything but hot right now unless she turned the heat up at home >.>
17:02 <luke-jr_work> she'd probably hang up on you or smth
17:02 <luke-jr_work> =p
17:03 <spidey> haha
17:03 <spidey> i'm telling her you said that
17:03 <spidey> and emailing her the logs =p
17:03 <guru3> haha
17:03 <luke-jr_work> so?
17:03 <guru3> because everyone believes text logs these days
17:03 <luke-jr_work> she'll probably be like "tell Luke to come home and warm me up" :D
17:03 <spidey> screenshot =p
17:04 <luke-jr_work> screenshots can be fun to design
17:04 <luke-jr_work> :)
17:04 <guru3> trust luke to say that
17:04 <luke-jr_work> lol
17:04 <guru3> you can just picture luke faking stuff like that\
17:04 <spidey> lol
17:04 <luke-jr_work> done it before, will do again
17:04 <guru3> hehe
17:04 <luke-jr_work> except usually they're called mockups ;p
17:05 <guru3> sure they are
17:05 <guru3> ;)
17:05 <luke-jr_work> text would be so boring a screenshot to design
17:05 <luke-jr_work> I'd probably first just inject fake packets on my Freenode connection
17:06 <guru3> haha
17:06 <guru3> takeing the long way around
17:11 <guru3> the more e's you have
17:11 <guru3> the better off you are
17:14  * luke-jr_work creates a neutron bomb that destroys only cheese
17:15 -!- nowimproved [n=nowimpro@bb-66-63-118-224.gwi.net] has joined #armagetron
17:15 <nowimproved> does anyone install armagetron on freebsd
17:15 <nowimproved> i need some help if anyone has any idead
17:15 <nowimproved> ideas*
17:15 <guru3> depends on what's not working
17:15 <nowimproved> when doing configure on armagatron i get this error http://pastebin.ca/236046
17:18 <guru3> stupid pastebin isn't loading :/
17:22 <Comsn> nowimproved : sounds like you need sdl to compile armagetron
17:22 <nowimproved> uh i have it though
17:25 <nowimproved> sdl-1.2.11,2
17:25 <[dlh]> What version of the game, nowimproved?
17:26 <nowimproved> newest
17:26 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:26 <luke-jr_work> subversion checkout?
17:26 <luke-jr_work> that
17:26 <luke-jr_work> that's newest
17:26 <nowimproved> armagetronad-
17:26 <[dlh]> There was this bug (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1460300&group_id=110997&atid=657948), but it has been fixed.
17:26 <guru3> sdl11-config
17:26 <guru3> do you have that?
17:26 <guru3> or just sdl-config
17:26 <nowimproved> it is not a command
17:27 <[dlh]> sdl-config isn't?
17:27 <nowimproved> scl-config is a comand
17:27 <guru3> that's the problem then
17:27 <nowimproved> sdl
17:27 <guru3> im guessing sdl-config isn't in your path
17:27 <guru3> and then that's causing the problems
17:27 <luke-jr_work> FreeBSD doesn't have dependencies?
17:27 <[dlh]> …
17:27 <nowimproved> im not installing it through ports
17:28 <nowimproved> ports has an old version
17:28 <guru3> run a find on sdl-config
17:28 <guru3> (or a locate)
17:28 <nowimproved> k
17:28 <guru3> also if you have sdl installed, is it the development version?
17:29 <nowimproved> yes
17:29 <guru3> then sdl-config should be somewhere
17:29 <nowimproved> ya it is 
17:29 <nowimproved> /usr/local/bin/sdl-config
17:29 <nowimproved> /usr/ports/devel/sdl12/work/SDL-1.2.11/sdl-config
17:30 <nowimproved> /usr/ports/devel/sdl12/work/SDL-1.2.11/sdl-config.in
17:30 <guru3> is /usr/local/bin in your path?
17:30 <nowimproved> what do you mean?
17:31 <guru3> your path is the list of directories that your shell scans for binaries when you type in a binary's name
17:31 <guru3> usually you can do echo $PATH
17:31 <guru3> to get the list
17:31 <[dlh]> echo $PATH, and check if /usr/local/bin is in it.
17:32 <nowimproved> /usr/local/bin
17:32 <guru3> shows up in $PATH?
17:32 <nowimproved> ya when i do echo $PATH
17:33 <guru3> do which sdl-config
17:33 <nowimproved> /usr/local/bin/sdl-config
17:33 <guru3> but configure doesn't find it...
17:33 <guru3> odd
17:33 <[dlh]> SDL_CONFIG_DEFAULT=sdl11-config
17:34 <nowimproved> [dlh], what shoud i do with that?
17:34 <[dlh]> And the comment above it → “# FreeBSD, sdl-config is specialized to sdl11-config there”
17:35 <[dlh]> It means we hardcoded a value, and the SDL version number got bumped :(
17:35 <[dlh]> or they changed it back to sdl-config on freebsd.
17:35 <nowimproved> so it cant be compliled
17:35 <guru3> of course it can
17:36 <guru3> in configure.ac
17:36 <[dlh]> you just need to comment out that line, and run autoconf again.
17:36 <guru3> search for SDL_CONFIG
17:36 <guru3> or really
17:36 <guru3> search for sdl11-config
17:36 <guru3> and replace with sdl-config
17:36 <guru3> should be in configure
17:39 <nowimproved> yup i can compile now
17:39 <guru3> great
17:39 <guru3> we should fix that in svn
17:43 <guru3> aka
17:43 <guru3> i'll do it
17:46 <nowimproved> well more errors
17:46 <guru3> D:
17:46 <guru3> commited the fix about sdl-config to svn at least
17:46 <nowimproved> http://pastebin.ca/236079
17:47 <guru3> when you tried to run armagetron?
17:47 <guru3> did you do make install or running it from the source dir?
17:47 <nowimproved> make install
17:47 <guru3> it's not installing correctly
17:47 <guru3> all i can say atm
17:47 <nowimproved> nevermind it is fixed now
17:47 <guru3> ok
17:47 <guru3> and time for me to go to dinner
17:47 <guru3> so bbl
17:48 <nowimproved> my home directory had bad permisions some now
17:48 <nowimproved> how*
17:48 <guru3> if you have any more probs just leave messages
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17:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
17:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i just mounted a partition on /mnt/stuff
17:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> now how can i make it possible for normal users to put stuff in there?
17:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> (at least for one certain user)
17:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm nm
17:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> found  out myself
17:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> damn no
17:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> didnt work -.-
17:56 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:56 <luke-jr_work> what fs?
17:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> reiser
17:57 <luke-jr_work> mkdir /mnt/stuff/foo
17:57 <luke-jr_work> chown user /mnt/stuff/foo
17:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> very elegant solution -.-
17:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but thanks anyway
17:57 <luke-jr_work> copy perms from /tmp
17:58 <[Xpert]DarkStar> chown user /mnt/stuff <<
17:58 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ><
17:59 <luke-jr_work> lol
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18:00 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i guess i mistyped something before...
18:00 <[Xpert]DarkStar> time to move shit over to it...
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19:36 <ghableska> hello
19:43 <guru3> lo
20:00 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
20:00 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 47.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Wind: SSE at 8 mph (13 km/h).
20:05 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
20:06 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 61.2°F (1:07 PM CST on November 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa. 
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21:19 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (11 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (10 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (9 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || °¯ps arena (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (4 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 (1 more message)
21:19 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
21:19 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
21:19 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails °¯ps arena
21:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: °¯ps arena: Players (5/16): ~*$PàM*~, ~|DS|~|d35T|~, ~|DS|~|JJBean|~, ~|ÐR|~|Kµ4H|~, °¯AshitakA
21:31 <Comsn> is oops fort or sumo?
21:32 <MaZuffeR> sumo
21:32 <Vanhayes> and not lod type, the normal kind
21:33 <Comsn> ehe :)
21:34 <Vanhayes> I wouldnt have a problem with any of their settings, its only that the zone doesnt dissapear, you have to def untill it shrinks to nothing
21:34 <wrtlprnft> #g 1/sqrt(2)
21:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 / sqrt(2) = 0.707106781
21:36 <Vanhayes> still cant pm armabot wrtlprnft ?
21:37 <ghableska> #g sqrt(-2)
21:37 <armabot> ghableska: sqrt(-2) = 1.41421356 i
21:40 <Vanhayes> #g 15% of 1500
21:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: 15% of 1,500 = 225
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21:53 <Nixda690> hey
21:53 <Nixda690> ey
21:53 <Nixda690> hey
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21:55 <Vanhayes> well...
21:59 <guru3> yeah
22:28 <spidey> lol
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22:51 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails 2020
22:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: 2020 team challenge: No online players.
22:51 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails -v 2020
22:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: 2020 team challenge ( running 0.3.0 unix dedicated, Description: “MON rip TUE tron simulation WED tronic monkey open challenge THU incam night FRI kings of the grid  SAT team-play SUN tournament night 8pm gmt start“, No online players.
23:31 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: turn, turn, turn, turn, turn
23:33 <Vanhayes> ha
23:33 <wrtlprnft> turn turn turn turn tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnn!
23:36 <luke-jr_work> I DID
23:36 <luke-jr_work> =p
23:36 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, TURN
23:36 <luke-jr_work> (so there)
23:38 <Vanhayes> I said put me ai 
23:38 <Vanhayes> So there
23:40 <luke-jr_work> but gave a nearly invalid reason
23:40 <luke-jr_work> so there
23:41 <Vanhayes> I think the reason that it isnt fun is a good one for not wanting to play a game
23:42 <luke-jr_work> it isn't fun because it takes too long ceases to be valid as soon as it doesn't take long
23:42 <luke-jr_work> :)
23:43 <luke-jr_work> qwm suggested next time we take 30 turns the first day
23:43 <Vanhayes> meh, I think ill stivk to one game per day
23:43 <Vanhayes> stick*
23:43 <spidey> heh
23:43  * Your_mom_arma agrees
23:43 <spidey> you can't even play one game in one day
23:43 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:44 <spidey> luci mom and me have been playing the same game for awhile
23:44 <Your_mom_arma> sure you can
23:44 <luke-jr_work> it's not practical for most of us
23:44 <Your_mom_arma> make it take less times to research techs a team of 5 humans vs 1 ai
23:44 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, playing then quitting because you can't stay up isn't 1 whole game =p
23:44 <luke-jr_work> I'm thinking it'd be best to allow more movement per turn
23:44 <spidey> ...
23:44 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma, that's most of my games
23:45 <Your_mom_arma> what about the game where i built the space ship, that was one day
23:45 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: try to make it a RTS
23:45 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, I can go with that
23:45 <spidey> that was uncool
23:45 <luke-jr_work> spidey, uncool was you selling us out to AI
23:45 <Your_mom_arma> i was ready to quit so i figured i may as well
23:45 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:45 <spidey> luke-jr_work, what about that game me and you have saved?
23:45 <spidey> that was uncool
23:45 <spidey> so you can't bitch at me =)
23:46 <luke-jr_work> what game was that?
23:46 <spidey> the one where i was at war with 4 AI's and you was steadily bribing cities
23:46 <spidey> or was it 3
23:46 <Vanhayes> do you know what is cool? turning on your allies, thats pretty cool
23:46 <spidey> hmm
23:46 <Vanhayes> er funny*
23:47 <spidey> i won't turn on a ally unless they're hellbent on destroying everything
23:47 <luke-jr_work> know what's totally uncool?
23:47 <spidey> OR i think they're about to try to invade me
23:47 <luke-jr_work> playing with andrew
23:47 <spidey> fuck him
23:47 <Vanhayes> can you turn onyourself now spidey?
23:47 <spidey> huh?
23:47 <luke-jr_work> I tried a game w/ andrew
23:47 <spidey> so did i
23:48 <luke-jr_work> he offered me an alliance (we were at war) and then went inciting riots in my cities
23:48 <luke-jr_work> so I nuked him
23:48 <spidey> after i started beating him he tried to set himself on experimental AI
23:48 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:48 <Vanhayes> <spidey> i won't turn on a ally unless they're hellbent on destroying everything   I remember when you started nuking luke for fun when he had almost no defense
23:48  * luke-jr_work too :(
23:48 <luke-jr_work> maybe it was a promise about the future
23:48 <spidey> i didn't nuke luke
23:48 <spidey> i nuked todd
23:48 <luke-jr_work> I don't turn on people unless they're easily conquered and pissing me off :)
23:49 <spidey> so i could have a standing ground when i turned on you
23:49 <spidey> because you where going all out
23:49 <spidey> then it would have been me or luci
23:49 <luke-jr_work> hm?
23:49 <spidey> i had 8 cities so i took your capital =p
23:49 <luke-jr_work> note the 'pissing me off' part
23:50 <spidey> luke doesn't like war unless there's someone weaker than him
23:50 <luke-jr_work> you didn't piss me off until you turned on me
23:50 <spidey> then it's ok of course
23:50 <luke-jr_work> it's ok if they piss me off sure
23:50 <spidey> um
23:50 <spidey> that same game
23:50 <spidey> after i took hayes capital
23:50 <spidey> what did i do?
23:50 <spidey> i gave you over half my cities
23:50 <spidey> so shut it =p
23:50 <luke-jr_work> ...?
23:51 <spidey> the world map game
23:51 <luke-jr_work> oh, I wasn't talking about that one
23:51 <spidey> where you keep going backwards and hayes kept pushing you
23:51 <spidey> we was
23:51 <spidey> keep up =p
23:51 <luke-jr_work> =p
23:51 <luke-jr_work> I don't like world map
23:51 <Vanhayes> spidey: um you nuked 3 of his cities then turned on me and gave all your cities too luke
23:51 <spidey> i nuked 3 of todds cities
23:52 <Vanhayes> almost had all of luke's cities
23:52 <spidey> his production cities
23:52 <Vanhayes> anyways, want to play a game?
23:52 <luke-jr_work> maybe
23:52 <spidey> sure
23:52 <luke-jr_work> my wife might veto it
23:53 <Vanhayes> ?me makes whip sound
23:53 <Vanhayes> er
23:53 <spidey> tell her, if she doesn't i'll come over again
23:53 <spidey> =p
23:53  * Vanhayes makes whip sound
23:53 <Vanhayes> there we go
23:53 <luke-jr_work> spidey, you want her to veto it?
23:53 <spidey> no...
23:53 <luke-jr_work> I'll tell her this way she gets me all tomorrow =p
23:53 <spidey> rofl
23:53 <spidey> what's your number?
23:53 <Vanhayes> I dont think threatening her will work
23:54 <luke-jr_work> but! today's payday so I probably wouldn't be able to start till like 7 at earliest
23:54 <spidey> "can luke come out to play....pleeeeeeeeaaaaaase
23:54 <Vanhayes> heh jk
23:54 <spidey> xD
23:54 <luke-jr_work> (913) 674-4395
23:54 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: what time is it there now?
23:54 <Vanhayes> 5?
23:54 <luke-jr_work> 4:55
23:54 <Vanhayes> af ok, 2 hours slower
23:54 <Vanhayes> ah*
23:54 <spidey> it's 6 here
23:54 <spidey> good
23:54 <spidey> i got time for a game of defcon
23:54 <spidey> or warrock
23:54 <spidey> hmm
23:55 <spidey> defcon
23:55 <Vanhayes> any new warrock updates?
23:55 <spidey> yea
23:55 <guru3> setting up my firewall :D
23:55 <spidey> and the weapon they added sucks
23:55 <Vanhayes> what is it?
23:55 <spidey> it's a close range sniper
23:55 <spidey> a styer AUG
23:55 <Vanhayes> ...
23:55 <luke-jr_work> guru3, ...?
23:55 <Vanhayes> that sort of defeats the purpose of a sniper
23:55 <luke-jr_work> guru3, you play civ w/ us?
23:55 <spidey> it's got a x1 scope
23:55 <spidey> it's fully auto
23:56 <spidey> and has a shitty shot at long range
23:56 <Vanhayes> do they have a knife yet?
23:56 <guru3> i guess i can take a break from working on my network setup
23:56 <spidey> you have to be close
23:56 <spidey> no
23:56 <luke-jr_work> guru3, in 2 hrs or so
23:56 <spidey> they do have bonus weapons
23:56 <guru3> mm
23:56 <guru3> maybe
23:56 <spidey> a shotgun
23:56 <Vanhayes> ill play again nwhen they get a knife
23:56 <guru3> that's 1am tho :/
23:56 <luke-jr_work> is it?
23:56 <spidey> what ya gonna do
23:56 <luke-jr_work> hrm
23:56 <spidey> stab someone to deatH?
23:56 <spidey> =p
23:56 <Vanhayes> guru3: what time is it there?
23:56 <guru3> 11pm
23:56 <luke-jr_work> I could be bad and play at work....
23:57 <Vanhayes> heh, dont blame you for not wanting to start at 1 am
23:57 <luke-jr_work> maybe we should just plan on tomorrow ;p
23:57 <luke-jr_work> start bright and early
23:57 <luke-jr_work> or we could play 1 or 2 hrs tonight
23:58 <guru3> hehe
23:59 <spidey> fuck bright and early
23:59 <spidey> =p
23:59 <spidey> i won't be up till atleast 3pm tomorrow
23:59 <luke-jr_work> spidey, I do that
23:59 <spidey> maybe later
23:59 <Vanhayes> ya im not a mornign person
23:59 <guru3> haha

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