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Log from 2006-09-14:
--- Day changed Thu Sep 14 2006
00:08 <luke-jr_work> ugh, trunk doesn't compile
00:08 <luke-jr_work> (as dedicated)
00:09 <luke-jr_work> gcc 3.3.5
00:14 <Vanhayes> er speaking of bugs do you guys know about the freezeing during server sync one?
00:19 <ghableska> oh yeah
00:24 <Vanhayes> argh froze
00:24 <ghableska> again?
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00:25 <Vanhayes> er server freeze not snyc thing
00:26 <ghableska> oh
00:27 <Vanhayes> though that snycing thing did happen earlier today
00:28 <ghableska> for me, it usually seems to be random...
00:28 <Vanhayes> any way I asked about it cause lack asked me about it then asked if any devs knew about it
00:28 <ghableska> oh
00:29 <ghableska> maybe it's a windows problem
00:29 <Vanhayes> probly
00:29 <Vanhayes> a windows/.3 thing
00:29 <ghableska> yeah
00:30 <ghableska> do you still get the crash with the next track key?
00:30 <Vanhayes> ya probly, I unbinded them so Im not sure
00:40 <luke-jr_work> SERVER_NAME Test Low-Ping Euro Armaserver
00:40 <luke-jr_work> go try it =p
00:40 <luke-jr_work> madmax|pt: that's you
00:43 <Vanhayes> i get a 142 there
00:43 <Vanhayes> its about the same as what z-man's were like
00:45 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes: you're not Euro =p
00:45 <luke-jr_work> which of z-man's?
00:45 <luke-jr_work> IIRC, this one is located in the Netherlands
00:45 <Vanhayes> his old bugfarm
00:47 <Vanhayes> well his bugfarm* afaik there is no new one he has
00:48 <luke-jr_work> btw, mkzelda...?
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00:53 <Vanhayes> bah no more IRC slides for me!
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00:53 <ghableska> haha
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01:06 <madmax|pt> hm, the server still up luke-jr_work ?
01:07 <madmax|pt> btw, its cool when you have to outgrind yourself to get an exit and survive
01:13 <luke-jr_work> yes
01:13 <luke-jr_work> please try it =p
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01:25 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:25 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 73.4°F (5:54 PM CDT on September 13, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa. 
01:25 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
01:25 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 73.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 43%. Wind: CLM at 0 mph (0 km/h).
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01:39 <madmax|pt> 75 with peaks of 100
01:40 <madmax|pt> something like that
01:40 <madmax|pt> #weather lisbon
01:40 <armabot> madmax|pt: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 12:30 AM WEST; Chance of Rain. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° (1 more message)
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
01:41 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 88.5°F (6:38 PM CDT on September 13, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa. 
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> it was raining cats and dogs yesterday, now it looks like a drought outside
01:42 <madmax|pt> meadows of brushy creek is a nice name
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> that's the only place I've seen it, though
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, maybe the sign coming in to the neighborhood says it and I just neer noticed it
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> but Brushy Creek is accurate anyway.  We're in the Brushy Creek Municipal District, and that's who we pay for water/electric/gas
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if we lived one block east if the weather people would say "Cat Hollow" (the name of the kinda ritsy neighborhood I hae to drive through to get to my less-ritsy home)
01:46 <spidey> Luke-Jr, luke-jr_work 
01:50  * madmax|pt pokes spidey 
01:50 <spidey>
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> wtf spidey!?
01:52 <spidey> user_beancounter :p
02:08 <Luke-Jr> spidey: 
02:08 <spidey> pm
02:08 <Luke-Jr> ...
02:13 <Luke-Jr> madmax|pt: hm, compared to the norm?
02:26 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6182 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/cockpit/cMap.cpp: missing include
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02:52 <spidey> #g 55euros in USD
02:52 <armabot> spidey: 55 Euros = 69.89400 U.S. dollars
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03:31 <Luke-Jr> ...
03:31 <ghableska> ....
03:31 <Luke-Jr> ghableska: where dya live?
03:32 <ghableska> Iowa
03:32 <Luke-Jr> o
03:32 <Luke-Jr> your name looked European to me
03:32 <ghableska> O_O
03:33 <ghableska> how so?
03:33 <Luke-Jr> dunno
03:33 <Luke-Jr> 'gh'
03:33 <ghableska> it's a nonsense word, heh
03:35 <Luke-Jr> =p
03:35 <ghableska> #google ghableska
03:35 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.05 seconds: Third Tronic Ladle - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Third_Tronic_Ladle>; Anarchic wanderers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Anarchic_wanderers>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - BUG cries on Bugfarm Fortress ...: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=3081&>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - (2 more messages)
03:35 <ghableska> heh
03:36 <Luke-Jr> #google fight ghableska "Luke-Jr"
03:36 <ghableska> hmm
03:36 <spidey> #google fight "everyone else" Luke-Jr 
03:36 <armabot> spidey: everyone else: 145000000, Luke-Jr: 75800
03:36 <spidey> pwn
03:37 <Luke-Jr> #google fight ghableska "Luke-Jr"
03:37 <ghableska> hehe
03:37 <ghableska> #google fight ghableska Luke-Jr
03:37 <ghableska> :P
03:37 <armabot> ghableska: Luke-Jr: 6230, ghableska: 2180
03:37 <ghableska> meh
03:37 <ghableska> but all the hits are related to me :P
03:38 <Luke-Jr> most of mine are
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04:09 <ghableska> wb
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> ty
04:23 <DrJoeTron> ping
04:23 <Your_mom_arma> im in the ts server
04:46 <ghableska> #night
04:46 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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07:30 <TiTnAsS> sup
07:30 <DrJoeTron> heya
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07:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh, found the pyqt4 designer :)
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08:07 <Lucifer_arma> man, getting pyqt3 and pyqt4 on the same machine is a real bitch and a half
08:09  * Lucifer_arma considers writing another wxPython-based gui
09:18 <wrtlprnft> http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/articles/releases/overtaking110906.html
09:18  * wrtlprnft is happy to live in a country where car drivers are generally aware of bicycles
09:19 <wrtlprnft> doesn't mean that there isn't the occasional jerk on intersections, but that's usually pretty low–speed and hurts the car more than the cyclist, at least in terms of money :P
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09:33 <Lucifer_arma> hi anjori 
09:36 <anjori> hey
09:37 <anjori> your README asks for Autostart exampls for various WMs. this wiki covers them all: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Autostart_Programs  it's gentoo-centric, but should work on most distros
09:39 <anjori> if you dont want to lift it directly, i could install a numbers of those WMs on my test machine and write it up myself
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> up to you, I read that page actually when I was considering implementing it directly, then got lazy :)
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> um, you might want to download the 0.5.1 I just put on sourceforge if you actually want to use the program, there are even a few more bugfixes from the tarball you downloaded
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> namely, I reduced the timer interval so it doesn't run two threads each at 4% cpu usage on my server :/
09:45 <anjori> different from the 0.5.1 linked in your follow up post?
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I don't want to lift the wiki page directly because it is pretty generic, I'd like something specific to the alarm clock
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, different from the 0.5.1 I linked in that post
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> that was a test, and you were the guinea pig :)
09:46 <anjori> heh
09:46 <anjori> link?
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pyalarm/dsac-0.5.1.tar.gz?download
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't just reduce the timer interval, I made it configurable, but you have to edit ~/.dsac/dsacrc to change it.
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> the box for it in the preferences dialog goes in a panel not yet created, and I didn't want to create that panel yet
09:47 <anjori> oh, so the pref option doesnt actually do anything? i hadn't tried changing it when i ran it.
09:49 <Lucifer_arma> er, which one?  all the ones in the dialog that are enabled should work, except the randomize playlist button
09:49 <Lucifer_arma> that one I didn't implement yet because playlist managers need more thought, and because of the way the playlist is loaded and created, it looks random anyway :)
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> no, I added a new config option for the timer specifically.  There's a "snooze interval" config that works, but the one I'm talking about is number of milliseconds between timer runs
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> It was hardcoded to 200 in 0.5.0 and the tarball you downloaded, and I added a config for it that defaults to 500
09:51 <anjori> ah
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> reduced CPU usage from 4% each in two threads (8% total, I think) to 1.9% peak in one and the other 0.3% normal
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the threshold for sounding an alarm is 2 seconds, so it would take a lot for the timer to fail to sound an alarm even at the half-second timer interval
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> but should you notice a problem, you can reduce the timer interval to compensate :)
09:52 <anjori> i'll pretend i know what threads are and the significance of 8% to 2% (though, obviously, any time you can cut cpu is a good thing) ;)
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  thread.  Hmmm.  you want your program to do 2 things at once, you have two choices: one is to create a thread.
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> because normally a program only does one thing at a time.  :)  It's like adding a & in a bash script
09:54 <anjori> i see
09:55 <anjori> anjori@1[dsac-0.5.1]$ ./configure
09:55 <anjori> configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.."
09:55 <anjori> on the new tarball
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> that explains something, heh
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pyalarm/dsac-0.5.1a.tar.gz?download
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> if that one doesn't work I'm gonna scream
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> of course, the program is pretty much brand new, so rough edges should be expected this early in development.  :)
10:02 <anjori> success!
10:02 <anjori> yes. i'm not expecting a polished, bug-free app, or anything
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> heh, well, the snooze bug bit me this morning.  :/
10:03  * Lucifer_arma reminds himself to test more thoroughly before changing the version on his server
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> you know, the problem with this particular program is that when there's a bug that breaks its basic function, it fucks you for the day
10:04 <anjori> well, even if you could guarantee that it was 100% stable and bug free, i still wouldn't rely on purely software to wake me up. i'd have a backup, regular alarm
10:04 <anjori> i don't trust my computer /that/ much.
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> smart.  :)  I would too if those damn things worked on me.
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> you kinda get used to it, though.  Besides pyAlarm, I've used 2 other software alarms and have been using computers for my alarm clock for something like 5 or 6 years now
10:05 <anjori> heh. i've been known to get up and turn off the damn thing while not exactly conscious, then go back to sleep, not realizing it ever went off.
10:06 <anjori> which actually leads me to a question i had based on your readme
10:06 <anjori> "There's a third button that's disabled for now that contains a happy face with a blindfold.  When finally enabled, that button will be enabled and will mean "I'm going to bed"."
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> I probably do tht twice a week.  I'm still working out how it should look, but I want some way the user has to confirm that he woke up.
10:06 <anjori> what exactly will that option do?
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> and if he doesn't confirm, the thing will go off again.
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> That option is mostly for tracking sleeping habits.
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> The first thing it'll do is make a sleep log entry that says "I went to bed"
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> later on there'll be a report that says stuff like "Average number of hours asleep", with a nice graph that shows this over time
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> the second thing it'll do is plug into a white noise generator with config options to match, where the white noise generator will be an external app
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> so you could use mplayer (my sister uses a dvd player for that task), or a real white noise generator
10:08 <anjori> when i initially read about this on your site, the idea of you having to confirm you're actually up appealed to me
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> and then at some point there'll be an optional central server for collecting these statistics from users.  I think the information would be very handy and helpful for people to have.
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> my original plan with confirming having woken up wasn't completely workable, and the code in pyalarm was nasty enough that it was impractical, hence the rewrite
10:09 <anjori> is similar to this article i read about an actual clock that you would have to get up and engage by solving som sort of puzzle to prove you were awake before it turned off
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I figured out 3 ways to fool the system while being half asleep, so I'm still thinking about it
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> now there's an idea
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> make it something more than just a click
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> a minor part of the spec is it has to allow for someone else to do it, though.  I might wake up after 5 snoozes and rush out the door, my wife needs to be able to go in and say "he woke up and left"
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> the sleep log that's there now has snoozes, alarm sound, and I'm awake messages in it.  It's pretty basic, but if you wanted to fool with your leet shell skills you might try to generate a report from it
10:11  * Lucifer_arma added the sleep log :)
10:11 <anjori> that's another good point. i was actually thinking about a similar scenario if i had to rush out and the bloody thing kept going off or what have you
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, I want the thing to be relentless and to keep trying to wake me up as long as I'm asleep.  That's an 8-hour ordeal sometimes!  So a timeout doesn't quite fit,
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> although the system will probably have one so other people can set it up.
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> but I'll disable it.  :)
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> at some point the program is going to have to trust me, though, and I"m going to have to trust myself not to trick it.
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> I *want* accurate reports!  ;)
10:15 <anjori> i'll install various WMs and try and write up some dsac-specific instructions for autostart. though that's not going to happen tonight as i've been drinking
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> ok.  Thanks you!  :)
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> *Thank
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> probably the best place to put them is in a comment on my website on this page:
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/node/39
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> I'll get a notification of course and snatch it to put in the readme as soon as it's there, in the meantime it'll be on the website for others to use
10:20 <anjori> all right
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if you're wanting to contribute a lot of stuff, I can give you svn access too :)
10:21 <anjori> the mention of your site reminded me that i can't wait for the next version of drupal. it looks promising
10:22 <anjori> well, i'll do what i can. but keep in mind that i'm still trying to learn a lot of this stuff myself and most of my knowledge is largely in conceptual understandings.
10:22 <anjori> hell, i still get lost trying to compile something when it doesn't go exactly as expected ;)
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm loving Drupal these days
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> if Drupal was a woman, I'd french kiss it
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10:35 <anjori> it is sweet, yes. i havent had a site up for awhile, but once i actually have a reason to and hopefully some scripts and stuff to offer, i'd like to relaunch it.
10:36 <anjori> have you read about the next release? it'll finally have an installer.
10:37 <anjori> http://drupal.org/drupal-5.0.0-code-freeze
10:38 <anjori> and if there was ever any doubt about the abilities of drupal for large sites, i think the fact that the MTV UK site now runs on it can attest to its abilities: http://drupal.org/node/81898http://drupal.org/node/81898
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> It has been suggested that red-headed people are descended from Neanderthals. [citation needed
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't been following the next drupal release
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> I usually wait until I go to the drupal site for something and happen to notice a new release, then upgrade when it's most inconvenient :)
10:56 <anjori> i subscribe to way too many rss feeds, drupal being one of them, so i get it when it happens
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13:49 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i dunno if banning IPs forever is a good thing… If they're dynamic you might block out an actual user. Why not define a month or something, if they spam again after that you can assume they're static and ban them forever…
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14:34 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: 
14:47 <spidey> Luke-Jr:
14:57 <Luke-Jr> ...
14:58 <spidey> pm
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15:04 <spidey> gaaaaaaaay
15:05 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd is?
15:05 <spidey> no my power blinked
15:05 <spidey> i was listening to a good song to
15:05 <Luke-Jr> o
15:05 <Luke-Jr> why does power blink hurt that? =p
15:06 <spidey> my stereo and computer turned off?
15:07 <Luke-Jr> oh, right... you BNC
15:08 <spidey> ya
15:08 <Luke-Jr> well, that's why you should use either a laptop or a UPS ;p
15:08 <Luke-Jr> for the PC anyhow
15:08 <spidey> heh
15:08 <spidey> buy me a ups and i'll use a ups
15:08 <spidey> ;x
15:08 <Luke-Jr> they're heavy and expensive :x
15:08 <spidey> exactly :p
15:09 <Luke-Jr> well, expensive for anything decent
15:09 <Luke-Jr> my <$100 one works for like 2-3 min
15:09 <spidey> or i could just find some ones the batteries dead in
15:09 <Luke-Jr> laptops, however, run hours ;p
15:09 <spidey> and replace it with car batteries
15:09 <Luke-Jr> maybe
15:09 <spidey> then it'll run hours :p
15:09 <Luke-Jr> that'd be a pretty nice UPS to take car batteries =p
15:09 <spidey> not really
15:09 <Luke-Jr> but car batteries aren't meant to be run down ever
15:10 <spidey> deep cycle marine batteries run nice on a ups
15:10 <Luke-Jr> indeed
15:10 <spidey> just a few changes to the ups and it's good to go
15:10 <spidey> :p
15:30 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6183 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/ (index.php resource-browser/.htaccess): forgot to commit this a while ago
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16:30 <arctanx> mm don't draw heavy loads from deep cycle if you can help it
16:30 <arctanx> doesn't work so well
16:49 <spidey> meh
16:49 <spidey> i get to go see if i'm still enrolled in homeschool
16:49 <spidey> :p
16:54 <DrJoeTron> pft
17:03 <spidey> ?
17:03 <spidey> don't pft me
17:04 <spidey> if i'm not <almost 2months since i been> i'ma have to goto public school till i get my ged
17:04 <spidey> which i don't like public school, i get suspended to much.
17:12 <luke-jr_work> why?
17:12 <luke-jr_work> just take the dumb test
17:23 <spidey> ...
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18:07 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: i suggest you add a reason to when you wake me?
18:07 <wrtlprnft> this way I have to wait for you to state it
18:07 <wrtlprnft> otherwise i could have already answered
18:10 <wrtlprnft> …
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18:35 <wrtlprnft> http://qa-dev.w3.org/unicorn/
18:36 <wrtlprnft> >Note: You need to enable Javascript to be able to check documents.
18:36 <wrtlprnft> now these guys are talking about accessible webdesign?
18:36 <wrtlprnft> it's just a preview, i hope it doesn't stay this way…
18:47 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6184 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/index.php:
18:47 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed HTML errors (at least as far as I could see them, an unclosed anchor near the beginning causes tons of resulting errors)
18:47 <armabot> armagetronad: Also removed a useless spacer GIF, I hope it isn't forbidden by stupid paypal policies...
18:55 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6185 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/index.php: Fixed more errors that only became visible by fixing the last ones.
19:00 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6186 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/index.php: The last bugs, I hope...
19:03 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6187 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/index.php: O well, a last one: Specified the encoding (now UTF-8, any would do)
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19:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> http://xpert-darkstar.is-a-geek.org/~pso/harrypotter.jpg
19:41 <wrtlprnft> o_O
19:41 <wrtlprnft> now someone tell me why the mercam disappeared from the menus…
19:42 <wrtlprnft> i'm totally sure I added them!
19:42 <wrtlprnft> especially as the strings for it are in the language files...
19:45 <wrtlprnft> wtf
19:45 <wrtlprnft> the logs say i deleted the stuff again myself…
19:46 <wrtlprnft> must have been an accident while changing something else, but a weird one.
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19:52 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6188 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/gMenus.cpp: Readded the menu points concerning the mercam, that was already done on r5786, but for some reason it got deleted in r5843 without a log message (and with a completely different change).
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20:01 <wrtlprnft> hmm, the newest version of dejavu sans mono seems to be corrupt…
20:01 <wrtlprnft> pango prints two errors if I start gvim, which is annoying on the console
20:01  * wrtlprnft waits for deja_vu_ to pop in
20:02  * deja_vu_ pops wrtlprnft's eyeballs :D
20:02 -!- deja_vu_ is now known as deja_vu
20:03 <wrtlprnft> x_X
20:06 <deja_vu> :O
20:06 <deja_vu> oh
20:06 <deja_vu> i'm sorry
20:06  * wrtlprnft stares at deja_vu with empty eyes
20:07 <deja_vu> i've got this spare ball from an old mouse, if you want...
20:07 <wrtlprnft> urgh
20:07  * wrtlprnft doesn't want to remember non–optical mice
20:09 <deja_vu> well.. since i removed your optical capabilities you shouldn't be that picky :P
20:10 <wrtlprnft> i wonder if a mouse ball will bring these back…
20:10  * wrtlprnft rips out deja_vu's eyes and inserts them into the holes in his head
20:10  * wrtlprnft watches deja_vu from a safe distance
20:11 <deja_vu> o.o
20:11 <wrtlprnft> not o.o
20:11 <wrtlprnft> ×.×
20:11 <deja_vu> my eyes are proprietary
20:11 <deja_vu> they won't work with that strange socket of yours
20:12  * deja_vu steals his eyes back :(
20:12 <wrtlprnft> no chance
20:12  * wrtlprnft throws deja_vu's useless eyes into the trash
20:13 <deja_vu> :(
20:13  * deja_vu grows his eyes back
20:13 <wrtlprnft> o_O
20:14 <deja_vu> o.O
20:14 <wrtlprnft> that sounds like it hurts
20:14 <deja_vu> it only hurts if the growing doesn't stop in time O.o
20:14 <wrtlprnft> O_O
20:14 <wrtlprnft> ()_()
20:15 <deja_vu> *g*
20:19 <wrtlprnft> ╭──╮  ╭──╮
20:19 <wrtlprnft> ╰──╯  ╰──╯
20:20 <wrtlprnft> *splat* (sound of exploding eyeballs)
20:20 <deja_vu> is that UTF-8?
20:20 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:21 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/irssieyes.png
20:21 <deja_vu> ah :)
20:23 <wrtlprnft> pfft… using an IRC client/font not capable of some simple chars…
20:26 <deja_vu> font
20:26 <deja_vu> and term, maybe O.o
20:26 <wrtlprnft> öäü ← see this?
20:27 <wrtlprnft> öäü <-- see this?
20:27 <wrtlprnft> i'd better not use an UTF-8 arrow for this…
20:27 <deja_vu> no *g*
20:28 <deja_vu> http://himbeere.shacknet.nu/kram/utf-8.jpg
20:32 <wrtlprnft> well, you need to have your terminal set to utf-8
20:33 <deja_vu> i suppose so
20:33 <wrtlprnft> then say /set term_charset utf-8
20:34 <deja_vu> would this brake umlauts in other encodings?
20:35 <wrtlprnft> umm
20:35 <wrtlprnft> can you say one?
20:35 <wrtlprnft> so i can see if it shows up :)
20:35 <wrtlprnft> though i've never seen weird chars since i switched
20:36 <deja_vu> öüßÄä
20:36 <wrtlprnft> appears just fine
20:37 <wrtlprnft> probably irssi detects that this is not valid utf-8 and falls back to latin-1
20:37 <wrtlprnft> can you try an euro sign?
20:37 <deja_vu> don't have one
20:37 <wrtlprnft> you mean, can't enter one?
20:37 <wrtlprnft> then you're using latin-1, not latin-15
20:38 <deja_vu> i'm using us-dvorak + umlauts
20:38 <deja_vu> never felt the need to use the euro-sign
20:39 <wrtlprnft> o_O
20:39 <deja_vu> and switching to qwertz produces the general currency symbol instead O.o
20:40 <wrtlprnft> that's usually bound to alt–gr+shift+4
20:41 <deja_vu> hm.. seems to be aterm's fault
20:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> aterm ^^
20:42 <wrtlprnft> x_X
20:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> IMO the best terminal ever
20:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> at least irssi works correctly with it
20:43  * wrtlprnft doesn't see what's wrong with konsole
20:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> you need kde for it
20:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> or at least the kdelibs
20:44 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't do bold font for some reason, but oh well
20:44 <deja_vu> konsole is laaarge *g*
20:44 <deja_vu> and it's kde^^
20:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and slooooow
20:44 <wrtlprnft> not that much
20:44 <wrtlprnft> don't notice it being slower than what i can type
20:45 <deja_vu> Package: aterm
20:45 <deja_vu> Installed-Size: 228
20:45 <wrtlprnft> and if you're using kde and have kdelibs and such already loaded it's tiny…
20:45 <deja_vu> Package: konsole
20:45 <deja_vu> Installed-Size: 1906
20:45 <deja_vu> ;)
20:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> almost 10 times the size
20:45 <wrtlprnft> that in KiB?
20:46 <deja_vu> and aterm doesn't need a whole bunch of libs ;)
20:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> well... 229B is small and 228MB is a huge fucker terminal :P
20:46 <deja_vu> ^^
20:46 <wrtlprnft> 228BiB?!
20:46 <wrtlprnft> never ever
20:46 <wrtlprnft> *MiB
20:47 <wrtlprnft> and i don't believe even aterm fits into 229B
20:47 <deja_vu> http://packages.debian.org/testing/x11/aterm ;)
20:48 <wrtlprnft> that's KiB
20:49 <deja_vu> yep
20:50 <deja_vu> 116KiB for the binary
20:50 <wrtlprnft> -rwxr-s--x 1 root utmp 126K 2006-09-14 20:49 /usr/bin/aterm
20:50 <wrtlprnft> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4.0K 2006-09-09 20:27 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/konsole
20:50 <deja_vu> shellscript? :P
20:51 <mkzelda> woooo, got a job interview
20:51 <wrtlprnft> file /usr/kde/3.5/bin/konsole
20:51 <wrtlprnft> /usr/kde/3.5/bin/konsole: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped
20:51 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: grats
20:51 <mkzelda> thx, i really need it to work out
20:52 <deja_vu> *g*
20:52 <deja_vu> fascinating
20:53 <deja_vu> seems to be the same for other kde applications
20:55 <wrtlprnft> well, things like konsole and konqueror are mostly containers probably
20:55 <wrtlprnft> the actual funcionality is in a library
20:55 <wrtlprnft> so things like kdevelop can use it
20:56 <mkzelda> http://peak10.com/raleigh/default.asp
20:56 <mkzelda> thats where im applying
20:58  * wrtlprnft is currently browsing: http://himbeere.shacknet.nu/kram/
20:58 <deja_vu> *g*
20:59 <wrtlprnft> bah. that vimrc is almost empty…
21:00 <deja_vu> i'm not sure it's current :P
21:00 <deja_vu> but probably the one i'm using isn't much larger :P
21:01 <wrtlprnft> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9.2K 2006-09-14 20:10 /etc/vim/vimrc
21:01 <deja_vu> :O
21:01 <spidey> fuck
21:02 <deja_vu> 4.0K    .vimrc
21:02 <spidey> i'ma end up hhaving to go back to public school :/
21:02 <spidey> can't start my ged for 2 more months, and i gotta do 5 tests before the end of the month or i get kicked outta gateway :D
21:03 <deja_vu> O.o
21:05 <wrtlprnft> http://himbeere.shacknet.nu/kram/network_speed.png ← what a minor difference…
21:06 <mkzelda> spidey, i took the hard route too
21:06 <spidey> heh
21:06 <deja_vu> :P
21:06 <spidey> not really hard
21:06 <mkzelda> im saying rather than finishing school and getting a job
21:06 <spidey> except if i get a diploma i'll be in school atleast 3 more years
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21:07 <spidey> oh i've got a job if i want one
21:07 <spidey> though it's in new orleans
21:07 <mkzelda> haha, im sure we could all find work there
21:07 <Vanhayes> fema?
21:07 <spidey> ya
21:07 <Vanhayes> ha
21:07 <wrtlprnft> http://himbeere.shacknet.nu/kram/hanoi.png ← and you're beating me straight in number of open windows in opera
21:07  * Vanhayes was joking
21:07 <spidey> my uncle can get me a job with his boss
21:07 <wrtlprnft> though i have them in 10 rows
21:07 <spidey> starts at $100 a day
21:07 <Vanhayes> for how many hours?
21:07 <spidey> dunno
21:08 <mkzelda> 25
21:08 <Vanhayes> that could be 12 hour job then
21:08 <spidey> shit
21:08 <spidey> oh well
21:08 <Vanhayes> #g 100/12
21:08 <spidey> i'm not scared of work, i'm just not the first to jump to it :p
21:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: 100 / 12 = 8.33333333
21:08 <spidey> it's tearing down houses
21:08 <mkzelda> its 25, u can only successfully finish your job on the fall daylight savings time
21:08 <Vanhayes> not bad, but ive found if anyone offers to pay you by the day they work your ass offf
21:08 <spidey> demolition or w/e
21:10 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Norm's Place (11 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Capture The Flag (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (7 players) || 135er Uppercutz Berlin --Classsix-- (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || .Tronners|.in|.Pyjamas|.High-rubber|TiP-Clan.De.ms (5 players) || |AST| Fortress (5 players) || ~"XzL. (1 more message)
21:10 <Vanhayes> #more
21:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Clan Server (5 players) || ~{Global~Players}~ Clanserver (3 players) || =(S)=Stealth Dogfight Arena (2 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (2 players) || 4 Team Fourtress {By WPN Clan} (2 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (2 players)
21:11 <Vanhayes> meh ill wait a while before playing then
21:14  * spidey is doing webhosting :o
21:16 <spidey> Vanhayes, warrock?
21:16 <spidey> i'm almost at level 3 =D
21:17 <spidey> i'll have a 3 stripe badge thingy
21:27 <DrJoeTron> do they even give you anything?\
21:33 <Vanhayes> you get monry I think
21:34 <Vanhayes> can rent better weapons
21:34 <Vanhayes> rent meaning they only last for a few days
21:34 <Vanhayes> I think the most is a month
21:36 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: strange
21:37 <wrtlprnft> CTWF appeared again
21:37 <Vanhayes> #lastseen Vanhayes 
21:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes has last been seen on -=|LøÏ|=-  Lords Of Destruction Sumo Server 20 hours 38 minutes ago.
21:37 <Vanhayes> hmm thats right on now
21:37 <Vanhayes> so it fixed itself?
21:38 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Norm's Place (10 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9 players) || |AST| Fortress (9 players) || 135er Uppercutz Berlin --Classsix-- (8 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Capture The Flag (7 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || ~*Speeders*~ Classic Server (5 players) || .Tronners|.in|.Pyjamas|.High-rubber|TiP-Clan.De.ms (4 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (4 players) || (1 more message)
21:38 <Vanhayes> hmm i think ill play now
21:38 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=User:Self_Destructo&curid=1485&diff=15780&oldid=14309&rcid=14434 ← what could i do with that?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: apparently
21:39 <wrtlprnft> someone's editing someone else's userpage with a hidden insult…
21:40 <Vanhayes> is that person's username?
21:40 <wrtlprnft> no
21:40 <wrtlprnft> the IP address
21:40 <wrtlprnft> he/she/it isn't logged in
21:40 <madmax|pt> erm... cant open the wiki
21:40 <Vanhayes> ya wasn't sure if it was their IP or if they had just used that as their name
21:41 <wrtlprnft> I think you can't use an IP as your username
21:41  * wrtlprnft goes try
21:41 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: i can…
21:41 <madmax|pt> o_O
21:42 <Vanhayes> same here
21:42 <Vanhayes> tho I did get "Fatal error: Call to undefined funct:" instead of the navigation on the left side
21:43 <madmax|pt> dunno then
21:43 <madmax|pt> huh, it took long but now it loaded
21:43 <wrtlprnft> >Login error: You have not specified a valid user name
21:43 <wrtlprnft> that's if i try to register ““
21:44 <wrtlprnft> probably users either have to start with a letter or they can't contain dots or both
21:45 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
21:45 <armabot> madmax|pt: Norm's Place (9 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Capture The Flag (8 players) || 135er Uppercutz Berlin --Classsix-- (7 players) || ~"XzL. Clan Server (7 players) || ~*Speeders*~ Classic Server (6 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || =(S)=Stealth Dogfight Arena (5 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (5 players) || The Lobster Cage (3 players) || (1 more message)
21:46 <deja_vu> #lastseen deja_vu
21:46 <armabot> deja_vu: deja_vu has last been seen on Capture The Flag Sty 58 hours 1 minutes ago.
21:46 <deja_vu> anyone want to join? :P
21:47  * wrtlprnft is tired
21:49 <DrJoeTron> too busy ;looking up the new wii stuff
21:50 <wrtlprnft> <irony>Don't want a PS-III?</irony>
21:53 <DrJoeTron> haha
21:53 <DrJoeTron> well by the looks of it
21:53 <DrJoeTron> wii has a lot of hidden costs
21:56  * madmax|pt wants his equalizer button back
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22:03 <madmax|pt> luke-jr_work, load a fortress map on the low ping test server =P
22:03 <spidey> i just caused 4 of my teammates to die :D
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22:04 <luke-jr_work> madmax|pt: password is 'foob'
22:05 <spidey> i was flying the black hawk, then i saw a fighter chopper and halled ass the other way ,but there was a tower there =(
22:05 <madmax|pt> lol
22:05 <luke-jr_work> madmax|pt: how are pings there?
22:05 <madmax|pt> good...
22:05 <luke-jr_work> how high up on the server list sorted by ping?
22:05 <luke-jr_work> most Eu pings under 100 ms?
22:06 <madmax|pt> top or 2nd
22:06 <madmax|pt> where is the server btw?
22:07 <Vanhayes> nederlans
22:07 <Vanhayes> put a d in there somewhere
22:07 <Vanhayes> spidey: have you bought any other weapons?
22:08 <madmax|pt> it's netherlands :P
22:08 <Vanhayes> heh I know but nederland sounds funnier
22:09 <spidey> Vanhayes, i have
22:09 <spidey> Vanhayes, i buy sniper guns
22:09 <Vanhayes> any good?
22:10 <spidey> the one i got now is
22:10 <spidey> it's fucking awesome
22:10 <spidey> the distance you can see
22:10 <spidey> it'll hit something dead on if you aim right
22:10 <spidey> no matter how far
22:10 <spidey> but if it's moving you gotta shoot infront a little bit.
22:12 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: my ping is around 300…
22:12 <wrtlprnft> on old BF it was <50ms
22:14 <spidey> why not use that VPS z-man did
22:14 <spidey> didn't it run good?
22:34 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: 300 O.O
22:34 <luke-jr_work> spidey: no idea how it ran, no idea where it was, and IIRC it was German-only
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22:50 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY_CidIS8YM&eurl=
22:50 <spidey> haha
22:53 -!- wejp_ is now known as wejp
23:05 <wrtlprnft> aah, i love youtube-dl + mplayer :)
23:06 <wrtlprnft> i've seen worse, really.
23:09 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:09 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: worse pings?
23:13 <wrtlprnft> no
23:13 <wrtlprnft> worse blondes
23:16 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:16 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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