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Log from 2006-08-26:
--- Day changed Sat Aug 26 2006
00:06 <GodTodd_> #g 101 F in C
00:06 <armabot> 101 degrees Fahrenheit = 38.3333333 degrees Celsius
00:12 <Vanhayes> #g 18 C in F
00:12 <armabot> 18 degrees Celsius = 64.4 degrees Fahrenheit
00:25 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:25 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:32 <luke-jr_> #g 18 C is K
00:32 <luke-jr_> #g 18 C in K
00:32 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:32 <armabot> 18 degrees Celsius = 291.15 kelvin
00:44 <spidey> #g 100 luke-jr_s in wtf
00:44 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:44 <spidey> :/
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01:01 <spidey> luke-jr_, ping
01:02 <luke-jr_> pong
01:03 <spidey> luke-jr_, that aa folder getting used? if not i'ma delete to free up space :p
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01:03 <luke-jr_> what aa folder?
01:03 <ghableska> hello
01:03 <spidey> on my webserver...
01:03 <luke-jr_> no clue
01:03 <luke-jr_> maybe'
01:04 <spidey> lol
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01:06 <madmax|pt> hello
01:07 <DrJoeTron> hey there
01:07 <DrJoeTron> i just got done taking apart my keyboard
01:09 <spidey> #last --nolimit
01:09 <ghableska> O_o
01:09 <spidey> xchat crashed -_-
01:09 <armabot> spidey: [01:07:14] <DrJoeTron> i just got done taking apart my keyboard, [01:06:56] <DrJoeTron> hey there, [01:06:45] <madmax|pt> hello, [01:04:29] <spidey> lol, [01:03:45] <luke-jr_> maybe', [01:03:44] <luke-jr_> no clue, [01:03:41] <spidey> on my webserver..., [01:03:33] <ghableska> hello, [01:03:32] <luke-jr_> what aa folder?, [01:02:54] <spidey> luke-jr_, that aa folder getting used? if not i'ma delete to free up (50 more messages)
01:15 <DrJoeTron> drwatson deleted!
01:15 <DrJoeTron> :D
01:16 <DrJoeTron> i just removed his medical licence
01:17 <spidey> lol
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01:25 <Vanhayes> spidey: do tou talk to sky at all?
01:25 <spidey> sometimes
01:28 <Vanhayes> if you do tell him hyphy leopard is keenan/TNA imposter, he said sky was considering letting him SL
01:29 <spidey> -_-
01:29 <Vanhayes> probly just BS but just incase, seeing how he screwed over lol
01:53 <spidey> i hate that ihaa guy in lol
02:03 <Vanhayes> I dont think ive seen an ihaa before
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03:54 <DrJoeTron> ping
03:58 <spidey> pong
04:33 <DrJoeTron> lobster cage is 1 year old today
04:33 <DrJoeTron> erm
04:33 <DrJoeTron> not today
04:33 <DrJoeTron> this month
04:34 <DrJoeTron> :D
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05:23 <Ringwraith`> fuck
05:26 <spidey> ?
05:29 <Ringwraith`> nothin
05:30 <Ringwraith`> i wrote a skins match patch for the server
05:39 <luke-jr_> I'm designing a service to compile for OSX,Win, and common Linux OS
05:44 <Ringwraith`> cool
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06:02 <spidey> mom
06:02 <spidey> i cleaned my room can i have my allouance now!?
06:04 <Ringwraith`> your mom's nick takes up so much of the screen even a blind person can see it
06:04 <spidey> heh
06:05 <Your_mom_arma> quick someone rename themself to some arbitrarily long name
06:06 <Ringwraith`> no.
06:06 <Ringwraith`> :)
06:11 -!- spidey is now known as asljxvxcvlkdfjds
06:16 <luke-jr_> asljxvxcvlkdfjds: stfu! =p
06:18 <Ringwraith`> wow
06:18 <Ringwraith`> lkajdasjdlskajdajksdasd
06:18 <luke-jr_> g.p.dri.hirohirhi.nptih.nihpit.itonihn.opih.noith.iphdi for some dvorak goodness
06:20 <Ringwraith`> kjlfljksdf jio fiojwf iojfoij woi FUCK FUCK FUCK Kjsdosja doijasdjoasodj oisd
06:20 <Ringwraith`> sorry my gf's ass hit the keyboard
06:26 <luke-jr_> watch your language
06:27 <Your_mom_arma> did you guys ever finish that one freeciv game?
06:27 <luke-jr_> not yet
06:27 <luke-jr_> luci and I are both busy now
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06:48 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd_: you kicking around?
06:51 <GodTodd_> some
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06:58 <Lucifer_arma> I was going to ask if you'd written anything for the website, then I checked the moderation queue and saw that you had.  :)
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> I'm putting in filler again and not terribly happy about it, but I don't have anything to write right now.  :/
07:03 <GodTodd_> heh that's understandable :)
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> looks like it's going to be the space race paper ;)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> I just reread my research paper from comp 1 and decided it was pretty shitty.
07:08 <GodTodd_> heh
07:08 <GodTodd_> so...what needs changed on my story?
07:09 <GodTodd_> nm
07:09 <GodTodd_> found the comments :)
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07:19 <GodTodd_> Lucifer_arma: what's the easiest way to get to the stories set to review?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> Edit->find the area with the "Review" button and hit it?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> um, you can also do it in the Workflow tab, I'm not sure which is easier
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> but since you usually edit and then want to stick it back up for review, it seems like the Edit tab is the place to do it
07:21 <GodTodd_> well...i can get to mine pretty easily but with the ones you set to review i can't seem to find them :/
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> Mine's pretty long and it's well edited already, so if you don't really want to deal with it you're probably safe to hit publish.  :)  But it could use a check over the headings and stuff, make sure works that are cited are cited properly.
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> oh, click "Content" next to Administration
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> that shows the moderation queue
07:22 <GodTodd_> aha! cool :)
07:22 <GodTodd_> i knew there had to be a better way than floundering around like a blind rat
07:22 <GodTodd_> heh
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> oh shit, I forget to classify my paper
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> send it back to draft when you're done, heh
07:27 <GodTodd_> erg
07:27 <GodTodd_> oops
07:28 <GodTodd_> any way i can pull it back?
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> nvm, I just did it, so you should refresh (if you're reading it)
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> did you publish it already?
07:28 <GodTodd_> just like 30 secs ago
07:28 <GodTodd_> if that
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's fine
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> look at the home page, it's fine :)
07:28 <GodTodd_> yeah, it's got the classifications :)
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07:29 <GodTodd_> i see i have to learn the fine art of headings, tho heh
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> the rule is that a person should be able to read just the headings and get the gist of what you're saying
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> that rule kinda breaks down a lot, though :/
07:34 <GodTodd_> heh
07:35 <GodTodd_> i dunno that i'll have any scholarly papers to post this semester....unless people *really* want the finer points of the history of the republic of texas 
07:35 <GodTodd_> heh
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, I don't see why not, just wait until after the semester's over.
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> just remember it's technically filler, so we don't want too many of such papers on the front page without having some juicy stuff mixed in.
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> so I sent the email to the phi theta kappa lady in town, we'll see if they still want me :)
07:46 <GodTodd_> :)
07:47 <GodTodd_> as long as your GPA is in spec i wouldn't see why not....personally i view it as nothing more than application filler
07:47 <GodTodd_> except that when i got in i was intending (and did) to graduate from that school
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07:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's why I'm interested in it--application filler :)
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I just reread my book review from history 1 and think it would fit the website pretty well, but I think I'll hold off throwing it up there
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> give folks time to read what just went up, you know.  :)
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> so, I'm not sure I'm targetting UT anymore.  Heh.
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> Turns out that A&M has a higher-ranked aerospace engineering program and is arguably just as close to me as UT.
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> I don't feel any loyalty to either school, so their petty rivalry doesn't affect me.  :)
07:54 <asljxvxcvlkdfjds> #night
07:54 <armabot> Good night asljxvxcvlkdfjds!
07:55 -!- asljxvxcvlkdfjds is now known as spidey
07:55 <spidey> #night
07:55 <spidey> !
07:55 <armabot> Good night spidey!
07:56 <GodTodd> heh
07:56 <GodTodd> well....the top three schools in Texas are UT, TAMU and UTD
07:57 <GodTodd> overall
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but UTD doesn't have an aerospace engineering program
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> they also trade places in ranking depending on what degree you're looking at.
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> UT-Arlington supposedly has an aerospace engineering program, though.
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> I couldn't find any information on it :/
08:05 <GodTodd> yeah...utd is better at EE and such
08:06 <GodTodd> at least it'd better be...it was started by TI
08:06 <GodTodd> heh
08:06 <GodTodd> http://www-mae.uta.edu/
08:07 <GodTodd> or...right to the meat... http://www-mae.uta.edu/ae/aemenu.html
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, found it, thanks
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't look terribly impressive.  Or more to the point, they didn't put a lot of info on the site
08:09 <GodTodd> what info you after?
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> I want to know what Important People in the Field went to this school, what their objectives are and how they'll help me, and how they're ranked next to other schools
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> the degree plan is there, that's standard issue.  Their ranking isn't listed anywhere that I've found yet, and their educational objectives look pretty weak
08:12 <GodTodd> true
08:12 <GodTodd> i never hear anything really stellar about UT Arlington
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> wikipedia shows 2 astronauts from UT-Arlington
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> if I just count astronauts, A&M wins :)
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, no, actually UT-Austin wins, but most of those are has-beens, i.e. A&M has more current astronauts than UT-Austin
08:14 <GodTodd> heh
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> A&M also has Bjarne Stroustrop on their faculty
08:16 <GodTodd> heh...with no aerospace engineering program, UTD even has 1 astronaut ;)
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> what did he get at UTD?
08:18 <GodTodd> bachelor's, master's, and PhD in geosciences
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> aha
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> why am I looking at a list of lenders and wondering which one is most likely to go out of business before I have to pay off the loan?
08:28 <GodTodd> haha
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> I picked my own credit union.
08:33 <GodTodd> cool :)
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> The password entered is not acceptable. It must be at least 6 characters long, have an upper and lower cased letter, have a number, can't be the same as the username and can't be obscene.  <--- Fascists!
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> that was a fucking pain in the ass
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> I only got askedl ike 5 times "Do you want to sign your MPN electronically?"
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> YES 3 times isn't good enough?
08:39 <GodTodd> haha
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, website traffic appears to be increasing a bit
08:40 <GodTodd> really?
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, from an average around 30 unique readers a day up to around 50
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> could just be monthly fluctuation, though
08:53 <GodTodd> hmmm
08:53 <GodTodd> could be
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh, that's the all-time report, if your client can download it
08:57 <GodTodd> heh...it's not letting me accept :/
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> oh well
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> trying to get a chart of it
09:00 <GodTodd> heh
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> http://f3wm.free.fr/linux/gp_girl.html
09:27 <[Xpert]DarkStar> Lucifer_arma: lol
09:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> http://www.uni.ru/files/4310/amilo-m1451g.jpg gonna get one similar to this one
09:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> p4 2.4 ghz, 512mb ram, radeon 9600, 40 gb hdd
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10:25 <wrtlprnft> #morning
10:25 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune: Bubblegum: Good lord, that sucker's shakin' around like || some fine imported booty.
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--- Log closed Sat Aug 26 12:48:55 2006
--- Log opened Sat Aug 26 12:49:00 2006
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13:03 <wrtlprnft> ph is alive!
13:23 <philippeqc> yes he is
13:23 <philippeqc> but ph has applied for a new job, and need to give a response next week, so chances are that ph will be quite busy in the coming months
13:56 <wrtlprnft> :s
13:57 <philippeqc> somehow I totally screwed the "how much money would you like" and bubbled something high rather than a "I really want to work here, and money isnt that important for me", and somehow, they made an offer with that high value
13:59 <philippeqc> I hope I wont dissapoint them
14:00 <philippeqc> they do lots of embedded application, quite hardcode engineering, and I'd like to move to that direction. But they are a consultant comp, so it means they need to seel me to a customer.
14:03 <wrtlprnft> good luck
14:04 <philippeqc> thanks
14:05 <philippeqc> and you, how are you
14:07 <philippeqc> o, I have to work night tonight, we are having an installation :( That and a friend has a party to show off his kitchen tonight!!!!! I really wanted to go. He lives 15 mins walking distance from me. 
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14:24 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: good, though too lazy to do much coding
14:24 <wrtlprnft> and i'm involved in a project that pays right now
14:24 <philippeqc> o yeah, what is it?
14:25 <wrtlprnft> Some statistics system for ed's company
14:27 <philippeqc> nice
14:30 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: embedded is fun
14:30 <luke-jr_> tho I usually stick to software in that field
14:32 <philippeqc> they have their own product (hardware) for reading meters (electrical more often) and communicating over a wireless mesh
14:33 <luke-jr_> sounds expensive :o
14:33 <luke-jr_> assuming they put one at every meter/house
14:34 <philippeqc> the idea is that it is less expensive than to pull wires to all the meters to collect the same data
14:35 <luke-jr_> true
14:35 <luke-jr_> IIRC, on the east coast US they use a simple hardware wireless thing and have a truck drive by to collect the data
14:36 <luke-jr_> perhaps the cost of gas is getting too high for that tho
14:36 <philippeqc> similar kind of solution, 
14:37 <luke-jr_> except minus the mesh
14:37 <philippeqc> but think instead of running every road on its lenght, if the data was collected by certain nodes, and you ran the truck in a road perpendicular... your grab the data of a whole street in a fraction of the time
14:39 <philippeqc> gas!!! what about the person sitting in the truck. There are fewer people who would do that kind of job "just for the glamor" than you think.
14:39 <philippeqc> ;)
14:40 <luke-jr_> perhaps, but I don't see how anyone wants the kind of job where you just drive
14:40 <luke-jr_> but it has to be done
14:41 <philippeqc> yep, so a mesh network allows for better data collection.
14:41 <philippeqc> you could have it inside a factory too. 
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15:21 <spidey> lkjlfjd
15:27 <spidey> hm
15:27 <spidey> this's gonna pwn :D
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16:06 <wrtlprnft> fjdsfh
16:06 <wrtlprnft> hm
16:06 <wrtlprnft> this's gonna pwn too :Ð
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16:26 <luke-jr_> rofl
16:41 <spidey> wrtl's a beaver
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16:59 <wrtlprnft> :Ð
16:59 <wrtlprnft> ÷Ð
17:00 <wrtlprnft> `.´
17:00 <wrtlprnft> ¬_¬
17:06 <spidey> almost as annoying as someone who must write in a different color all the time
17:06 <wrtlprnft> <question mark>
17:06 <wrtlprnft> the key doesn't work, i'd need to restart x11
17:07 <wrtlprnft> umm, i'm not using :Ð very often
17:07 <wrtlprnft> i don't mind someone who writes a colored line once in a while
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18:45 <spidey> hmm
18:45 <spidey> how the fuck you install gentoo remotely
18:46 <spidey> Gentoo - LiveCD - You Install
18:50 <mkzelda> if you're going to install gentoo i'd recommend using a nicer livecd like Conrad LiveCD or sabayon
18:50 <mkzelda> and following the conrad install guide
18:50 <spidey> it's a dedicated server
18:51 <mkzelda> oh
18:51 <spidey> so i don't understand how I could install it
18:51 <spidey> o.o
18:51 <mkzelda> does the server have some sort of linux-in-linux capability?
18:51 <spidey> bah
18:51 <spidey> they don't have debian support
18:51 <spidey> :(
18:51 <spidey> dunno
18:52 <spidey> i'll probably use fedora
18:52 <spidey> all the other distro's they got i'll have compile the things i want to run on it
18:52 <spidey> and since my server is 100+ miles away
18:52 <spidey> i can't
18:53 <mkzelda> friends dont let friends use fedora
18:53 <spidey> lahl
18:53 <spidey> well
18:53 <spidey> it's either that
18:53 <spidey> or slackware
18:54 <spidey> and i'd still have to compile,which i can't right now
18:54 <mkzelda> and im from raleigh where red hat is based
18:54 <mkzelda> k
18:54 <spidey> besides i don't like slackware
18:54 <spidey> i had a bad experience with it :p
18:54 <mkzelda> heh
18:55 <spidey> my harddrive died :(
18:55 <mkzelda> I'd love a server with gentoo on a decent pipe 
18:55 <spidey> 100mbit
18:55 <mkzelda> ya that'd be perfect
18:56 <spidey> amd sempron 2200+
18:56 <spidey> 512mb ram
18:56 <mkzelda> i used to have a pretty much infinate supply of 100mbits to abuse
18:56 <spidey> lol
18:56 <mkzelda> had a bunch of machines i threw in unoccupied dorm rooms
18:56 <spidey> i've got one right now
18:56 <spidey> but if i get this server i'll cancel that one
18:56 <mkzelda> and outbound was capped and i figured out the way around it so i had the only uncapped connection on campus
18:56 <mkzelda> was fantastic
18:57 <spidey> lol
18:57 <mkzelda> 5mb/s to .nl/.se/.fi/.no/.uk
18:57 <mkzelda> 2.5mb back
18:57 <spidey> o.o
18:57 <mkzelda> mB
18:57 <mkzelda> ya
18:57 <mkzelda> traded a ton of warez
18:57 <spidey> wow
18:57 <mkzelda> heh
18:57 <spidey> the webserver only does 500kb/s
18:57 <spidey> well
18:57 <spidey> maybe
18:57 <spidey> i couldn't find a server to max it out
18:57 <spidey> it downloads at 11mb/s though
18:58 <mkzelda> even got 2mb/s from china, japan and korea
18:58 <mkzelda> but only about 150k/s going back there
18:58 <spidey> why does only the US suck for internet
18:58 <mkzelda> its just the direction u go and the time of day
18:58 <mkzelda> but yes, it sux in comparison b/c theres a ton of land
18:59 <mkzelda> and its sparse
18:59 <spidey> haha i know that's right
18:59 <spidey> my connection goes shitty around 6pm or so
18:59 <spidey> and stays that way till morning
18:59 <mkzelda> when countries the size of states need to put up wiring in towns where everyone lives close, its not hard
18:59 <spidey> well
18:59 <spidey> i'm only 4-5 miles from town
19:00 <mkzelda> but for some reason when the xfers went from here to asia they went through europe first
19:00 <spidey> there's a small town here, but i live in the part before the town
19:00 <mkzelda> but when they came back they went across pacific and then some magical hop from L.A. to raleigh
19:00 <spidey> so i should get better internet than the town down the road
19:00 <spidey> but i don't
19:00 <spidey> :/
19:00 <mkzelda> i used to live over your way
19:01 <mkzelda> this side of appalachian tho
19:01 <mkzelda> mtns
19:01 <spidey> cool
19:01 <mkzelda> charter was it for a while
19:01 <spidey> i'm in west tn
19:01 <spidey> charter still is it, here
19:01 <mkzelda> they really suck
19:01 <spidey> untill bellsouth gets here
19:01 <spidey> indeed they do
19:01 <mkzelda> we just got the bell there a year ago
19:01 <mkzelda> my friends still there that have charter say they get like 10k/s at best
19:01 <mkzelda> and it goes out all the time
19:02 <spidey> well
19:02 <spidey> i get 27kb/s
19:02 <spidey> up
19:02 <spidey> and 380kb/s+ down
19:02 <spidey> but it's shit quality
19:02 <mkzelda> the twc here is solid
19:02 <spidey> ya
19:02 <mkzelda> but overpriced
19:02 <spidey> i'm waiting for verizon to get in my area
19:02 <spidey> for now i'ma switch to bellsouth
19:02 <spidey> sometime next month
19:03 <mkzelda> 600k/s down, 45k/s up... im tempted to switch to a commercial contract
19:03 <spidey> hehe
19:03 <mkzelda> 900k/s down, 128k up
19:03 <spidey> o.o
19:03 <spidey> well
19:03 <spidey> when verizon does get here
19:03 <mkzelda> i only care about the upstream tho
19:03 <spidey> i'll have 15mbit down and 2 mbit up
19:03 <spidey> same
19:03 <mkzelda> we need cogent here
19:04 <mkzelda> or charlotte
19:04 <mkzelda> halfway point between d.c. and atlanta
19:04 <mkzelda> so it'd be a good location
19:04 <spidey> heh
19:04 <mkzelda> but im just convincing myself that
19:04 <mkzelda> :D
19:05 <spidey> lol
19:05 <mkzelda> i cant believe they have dsl in the mtns where i used to live
19:05 <mkzelda> if they can put dsl there they can do anything
19:05 <spidey> must be shitty
19:05 <mkzelda> nah its great
19:05 <spidey> o.o
19:05 <spidey> you lived around bristol?
19:06 <mkzelda> my brother bought the house from my parents, and has it
19:06 <spidey> shit
19:06 <mkzelda> i didnt live in tn
19:06 <spidey> oh
19:06 <mkzelda> but boone/hickory/lenoir/morganton
19:06 <spidey> you know the mtns between tn and sc ?
19:07 <mkzelda> i didnt realize the two bordered
19:07 <spidey> those switch back roads, one of the old us highways, i forget which one...but it's coming from bristol sc to bristol tn
19:07 <spidey> well
19:07 <spidey> might have been nc
19:07 <spidey> i failed geography
19:07 <spidey> :D
19:07 <mkzelda> stone mtn?
19:07 <mkzelda> thats where nc borders georgia
19:07 <spidey> hmm
19:08 <spidey> anyways
19:08 <spidey> it's like 90 degree turns all the way up and down the mountain
19:08 <mkzelda> haha ya
19:08 <spidey> we fit a bigtruck on those roads
19:08 <spidey> up and down it
19:08 <spidey> :D
19:08 <mkzelda> thats like some of the parts where i lived
19:08 <spidey> i was tryign to play the friggin xbox
19:08 <spidey> and holding the tv with my feet
19:09 <spidey> that didn't work
19:09 <spidey> :/
19:09 <mkzelda> haha
19:09 <mkzelda> i get real sick quickly if i dont watch the road there
19:09 <spidey> what? i love that game true crime, streets of LA
19:09 <mkzelda> http://www.mkzelda.com/thankyou.html
19:10 <mkzelda> i made that for when people make donations
19:10 <mkzelda> for my hosting
19:10 <spidey> lol you're mean :p
19:10 <mkzelda> when i first bought my domain that image was the only thing there
19:11 <mkzelda> for a few months till i got around to making my site
19:11 <spidey> lmao
19:11 <spidey> i hate drupal
19:12 <wrtlprnft> spidey: is your gentoo problem solved
19:12 <wrtlprnft> <question mark>
19:12 <spidey> huh?
19:12 <mkzelda> i hate pretty much every cms i've ever used
19:12 <mkzelda> but drupal is the one i hate the least
19:12 <wrtlprnft> 18:45 <spidey> how the fuck you install gentoo remotely
19:12 <wrtlprnft> 18:46 <spidey> Gentoo - LiveCD - You Install
19:12 <spidey> ya
19:12 <spidey> i was looking at a dedicated server
19:12 <mkzelda> shake it, dont break it, it took your momma 9 months to make it
19:12 <spidey> it said you could use gentoo, but you had to install it yourself
19:12 <spidey> so i was confused
19:13 <wrtlprnft> well, if it has some sort of linux on it you don't need a life CD
19:13 <wrtlprnft> you can just install it from the already running linux, as long as you can get a free partition
19:14 <spidey> hmm
19:14 <spidey> dunno
19:14 <spidey> i want a debian distro
19:14 <spidey> but they don't have support for it
19:15 <wrtlprnft> get another hoster
19:15 <wrtlprnft> <question mark>
19:16 <spidey> find me one for under $70 then :p
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19:16 <wrtlprnft> #g $70 in EUR
19:16 <armabot> US$ 70 = 54.8374461 Euros
19:17 <spidey> http://www.completelydedicated.com/dedicated.php
19:17 <wrtlprnft> uh, there should be plenty
19:17 <spidey> wrtlprnft, i don't want a euro server, i want one in the us
19:18 <wrtlprnft> yeah, but i wanted to know how much money you were talking about
19:18 <spidey> well
19:18 <spidey> these are the best i've found for the price
19:18 <wrtlprnft> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:HOWTO_Convert_A_RedHat_Server_to_Gentoo_Remotely
19:18 <spidey> the others didn't even have tech support, and the ones that did was $75 a half hour o.o
19:18 <wrtlprnft> that's if you want gentoo
19:21 <spidey> nice getting $40 for fixing a computer
19:22 <spidey> and all i have to do is put the hdd they took out back in and format
19:25 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-151-204-199-159.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
19:26 <Your_mom_arma> is that infamous guy a troll?
19:31 <wrtlprnft> why
19:31 <wrtlprnft> <quesion mark>
19:32 <wrtlprnft> $%&!#@ question mark key that doesn't work
19:37 <Your_mom_arma> "and you're happy that people are spending money on servers that aren't ever being used? nice."
19:38 <mkzelda> If you're happy and you know it buy a server and dont use it.
19:38 <mkzelda> Its in our hands, and it always was
19:39 <mkzelda> what happened to bjork
19:39 <mkzelda> i remember when i was like 12ish there was that song where she runs up a wall and does a flip
19:39 <mkzelda> song = video rather
19:41 <Your_mom_arma> last bjork thing i remember was her opening song for the olympics a while ago(with that crazy dress)
19:41 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: noone asked them to put a server online and steal the name, true
19:50 <Your_mom_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/4_Team_Fortress_Tourney_1
19:51 <Your_mom_arma> is the formating messed up, its displaying wierd in firefox
19:51 <spidey> looks fine to me
19:51 <spidey> though it laggs me pretty bad
19:51 <spidey> o.o
19:52 <mkzelda> my four team server was ahead of its time
19:52 <Your_mom_arma> i see bullet points in the middle of words
19:53 <mkzelda> i do too mom
19:53 <spidey> ah
19:53 <spidey> down at the bottum
19:53 <mkzelda> ya
19:53 <mkzelda> clan 3 clan 4 alternates
19:54 <mkzelda> that server is the jumpiest server ive ever played on
19:54 <spidey> no doubt
19:54 <mkzelda> my 140 ping means nothing, its laggier than the 250 ping @ bugfarm
19:55 <spidey> ping doesn't matter anyways
19:55 <spidey> well it does, kinda
19:55 <spidey> but not really
19:55 <spidey> i've played with a 400+ ping just like i do with a normal ping
19:56 <mkzelda> well it also doesnt indicate things like when your ping goes 140, 900 2 secs later, and back to 140 2 secs after that
19:56 <mkzelda> as mine does on that 4 team server
19:56 <mkzelda> it jumps to 900 a lot
19:56 <spidey> mm
19:56 <mkzelda> but it does it for a only a short time so ppl dont see it
19:56 <spidey> your ping jumps anyways
19:56 <spidey> :p
19:56 <GodTodd> #g 250 C in F
19:56 <armabot> 250 degrees Celsius = 482 degrees Fahrenheit
19:56 <spidey> holy
19:56 <spidey> that's like a fuckin oven
19:56 <spidey> hmm
19:57 <spidey> i could cook a pizza outside then
19:57 <spidey> or in my room
19:57 <GodTodd> heh
19:57 <GodTodd> cept you'd *be* the pizza ;)
19:57 <spidey> heh
19:57 <spidey> hmm
19:58 <spidey> what affects would a server with say, 25 player max have?
19:58 <spidey> tron server
19:58 <mkzelda> it'd be really nasty
19:59 <spidey> lol
19:59 <mkzelda> unless all 25 were lan
19:59 <spidey> well how
19:59 <spidey> tron uses less BW than other games
19:59 <spidey> and i've played with 32 on soldat before
19:59 <mkzelda> well, it uses exponentially more w/ more players
19:59 <mkzelda> i guess most multi games do
20:00 <spidey> ya....
20:01 <spidey> i wouldn't think it'd be any different if the server's connection could support it
20:02 <mkzelda> as far as i can see 12 seems to be the magic # on the server
20:02 <mkzelda> even when the bw fully handles more
20:03 <mkzelda> just my opinion, but when there are more players it always seems like thats when everything turns into a disaster
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20:13 <Your_mom_arma> hey
20:13 <DrJoeTron> hey there
20:14 <DrJoeTron> im creating Dinoruckus
20:14 <spidey> .....
20:14 <Your_mom_arma> thats always fun
20:14 <DrJoeTron> i figured it needed a picture
20:15 <DrJoeTron> i googled image searched a bunch of pictures
20:15 <DrJoeTron> now i justt need to find a rockin guitar
20:15 <Your_mom_arma> google esp ax
20:16 <Your_mom_arma> i want one
20:16 <DrJoeTron> but i cant find anything...unless i turn moderate safe search off
20:16 <DrJoeTron> because rockin guitars are NSFW
20:16 <Your_mom_arma> haha
20:17 <DrJoeTron> right now the picture has a dinosaur wearing a tshirt and cap, i added sunglasses to him, standing next to his wild surfboard on a way rockin tropical  island
20:18 <DrJoeTron> it looks great
20:18 <DrJoeTron> one of my reports is going to have this for a cover
20:20 <DrJoeTron> haha Your_mom_arma that ax looks awesome
20:20 <DrJoeTron> did you check out the "brendon small teaches you how to play the metalacolypse theme"?
20:22 <DrJoeTron> http://www.adultswim.com/shows/metal/index.html
20:23 <DrJoeTron> i didnt know brendon small could friggin play
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20:25 <spidey> wtfhax
20:25 <spidey> anyone wanna play freeciv?
20:26 <spidey> Lucifer_arma_, luke-jr_ GodTodd  Vanhayes Your_mom_arma ?
20:27 <Your_mom_arma> i'll play a quick game
20:28 <spidey> k
20:28 <spidey> need one more :p
20:29 <Vanhayes> hmm, set an ai for me ill join in, in a few minutes this movie is almost done
20:29 <spidey> how long?
20:30 <Vanhayes> 30 minutes tops
20:30 <Vanhayes> probly 15-20
20:30 <spidey> we'll wait :p
20:30 <Vanhayes> ok, thats good too
20:30 <Vanhayes> be back after its over
20:30 <Your_mom_arma> actually looks like a fairly simple tune joe
20:31  * DrJoeTron plays drums :p
20:31  * Your_mom_arma plays guitar horribly
20:31  * spidey plays games
20:31 <DrJoeTron> lets start a metal band
20:32 <DrJoeTron> you can be our roady spidey 
20:32 <spidey> lol
20:33 <DrJoeTron> god damn thats the 3rd time i exited out of house call
20:33 <spidey> owned
20:34 <DrJoeTron> thats wat i get for scanning viruses via java
20:34 <spidey> bah
20:47 <mkzelda> i got freeciv working
20:47 <mkzelda> but i tried to play a single player game
20:47 <mkzelda> didnt know wtf was goin on
20:47 <mkzelda> didnt know how to do a single thing
20:47 <mkzelda> so i quit
20:47 <mkzelda> heh
20:48 <Your_mom_arma> well
20:48 <Your_mom_arma> what do you need explained
20:48 <mkzelda> whats the first thing you do?
20:48 <mkzelda> and how do you do it?
20:48 <mkzelda> i was clicking on things and pressing buttons but nothing seemed to do anything
20:48 <Your_mom_arma> i can go over the basics but im the worst freeciv player here
20:49 <mkzelda> i suppose i should read the wiki and then ask questions
20:49 <Your_mom_arma> the little guys with white polos are explorers
20:49 <mkzelda> if all else fails read the manual
20:50 <Your_mom_arma> you use the orders tab at the top to tell them to explore
20:50 <Your_mom_arma> thats all they're good for
20:50 <Your_mom_arma> use the caravans to build cities
20:52 <Your_mom_arma> a settler has to wait one turn after moving to become a city
20:52 <Your_mom_arma> something no one told me
20:58 <Vanhayes> ok im ready now, who all is playing?
20:59 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: thanks for cleaning up the mess on the wiki
20:59 <Vanhayes> more vandalism?
20:59 <wrtlprnft> no
21:00 <wrtlprnft> just some serious abuse of lists
21:00 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=4_Team_Fortress_Tourney_1&curid=2697&diff=14589&oldid=14586&rcid=13600
21:05 <Your_mom_arma> np
21:06 <Your_mom_arma> did spidey bail?
21:07 <Vanhayes> hmm no clue, its only been a half hour so I hope not
21:18 <wrtlprnft> grr
21:18 <wrtlprnft> CTWF and 4team fortress both full
21:18 <wrtlprnft> no place left to play :(
21:19 <Your_mom_arma> hide and seek stonehenge?
21:20 <Your_mom_arma> capture the flag sty!
21:21 <Your_mom_arma> quick someone come play that with me
21:24 <Your_mom_arma> 9 team fortress
21:33 <DrJoeTron> 9team!?
21:34 <Your_mom_arma> it was only 4, false advertisement
21:35 <Your_mom_arma> check out the capture the flag server, this is awesome
21:35 <DrJoeTron> what!?
21:35 <Your_mom_arma> capture the flag sty
21:35 <DrJoeTron> haha sweet deal
21:36 <DrJoeTron> let finish viral scanning and let me load up a play list
21:36 <DrJoeTron> oh man
21:36 <DrJoeTron> gomes and i added the moderator feature for the TS channel
21:36 <DrJoeTron> only we can grant you permission to speak
21:41 <Your_mom_arma> hy headsets broken :{
21:43 <DrJoeTron> haha
21:43 <DrJoeTron> i cant find this server
22:13 <DrJoeTron> fuck armagetron
22:14 <DrJoeTron> all it does is like to break on me
22:14 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: it can have any number from 2 to 9
22:18 <DrJoeTron> i want 6
22:19 <Your_mom_arma> 7
22:25 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: does it switch randomly? all ive ever seen is 4 teams
22:32 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft: you can use the team menu
22:32 <wrtlprnft> everyone can create new teams
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22:36 <wrtlprnft> err
22:36 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: you can use the team menu
22:38 <Vanhayes> lol ya I did it, I guess spidey hosts it
22:39 <Vanhayes> thats what i was told anyway
22:40 <Vanhayes> kinda sucks when the rim accel is so high and they start so close
22:45 <Your_mom_arma> 1 player cant carry a ctf team
22:48 <wrtlprnft> yeah, rim accel is too high
22:49 <wrtlprnft> and i'd make it so all teams (except possibly one) have two players and up to a max or 8 teams
22:50 <Vanhayes> ya thatd be nice, cause with 1 team with 2 players vs 5 other teams with one, it is pretty easy to get the zone quickly with the rim accel
22:53 <wrtlprnft> it does have advantages for the defender too, though
22:54 <wrtlprnft> http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/11/1855229&from=rss <-- go croatia!
23:00 <Your_mom_arma> im not sure how to feel about all that
23:02 <wrtlprnft> well, for a country like croatia it's a good thing to refuse from depending on american companies
23:02 <wrtlprnft> *refuse to depend
23:04 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma you saw  the new tf2 trailer right?
23:07 <spidey> Vanhayes, no manta hosts it
23:08 <Your_mom_arma> no, it didnt load right and i never went back to watch it
23:08 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueuhj9WsDzk :D
23:12 <Your_mom_arma> the ending was the best
23:13 <DrJoeTron> haha yeah
23:15 <DrJoeTron> i wanna know where the medic  and pyro are
23:16 <DrJoeTron> but once this game is out, my grades are going to plummit
23:19 <Your_mom_arma> haha
23:21 <DrJoeTron> my friends and i have looking for a game all of us to play
23:21 <DrJoeTron> we've divided to BF2 and WoW
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23:31 <spidey> fuckin a
23:31 <spidey> warrock's 270mb plus there's a 125mb patch
23:31 <spidey> o.o
23:35 <Vanhayes> its a good game tho
23:36 <spidey> they got halo 3 ?
23:36 <Vanhayes> the only yhing is that its an open beta for now, which will probly mean you will have to pay for it later
23:36 <spidey> u464fq3l  
23:36 <spidey> 'er
23:37 <Vanhayes> that a password?
23:37 <spidey> no a email validation
23:37 <spidey> http://www.fangaming.com/viewtrailer.php?gameid=31&fileid=51
23:37 <spidey> why would i use something i won't remember for my password? :p
23:38 <Vanhayes> some places give out a generic one that you can change later
23:38 <spidey> i always change mine
23:38 <spidey> i can't remember those long ass alpha numeric things
23:38 <Vanhayes> ya but you have to use the generic one to get into the account first
23:38 <spidey> copy/paste
23:38 <spidey> ;x
23:38 <Vanhayes> ya I usually just use the same 2 or 3
23:38 <Vanhayes> for everything
23:39 <spidey> i have like 5 i use
23:39 <spidey> :/
23:39 <spidey> well
23:39 <spidey> lets see
23:39 <Vanhayes> well I have one for 6 or more and a variation of it for 8 or more
23:39 <spidey> 7 including the ones for the computer
23:39 <Vanhayes> hmmguess thats only 2
23:40 <spidey> well
23:40 <spidey> i'll buy the game
23:40 <spidey> if i meet the requirements
23:40 <spidey> that's why i'm downloading it :p
23:40 <spidey> the only thing i probably won't meet is the graphics card
23:41 <spidey> i don't even meet halo's standard
23:41 <spidey> which is bad
23:41 <spidey> but it plays with 50fps
23:41  * Vanhayes will never buy a game again unless it is a very good one
23:41 <spidey> why?
23:41 <Vanhayes> bittorent
23:41 <spidey> so...
23:41 <spidey> you can't play online with a pirated copy
23:41 <spidey> not most games
23:41 <Vanhayes> so why buy something that i can get for free?
23:41 <Vanhayes> yes you can
23:41 <spidey> no you can't
23:42 <Vanhayes> every game I have gotten you can anyway
23:42 <spidey> halo?
23:42 <Vanhayes> nope
23:42 <spidey> swat 4?
23:42 <Vanhayes> nope
23:42 <spidey> far cry?
23:42 <spidey> ok then :p
23:42 <Vanhayes> my comp isnt very good for online FPS
23:42 <spidey> neither is mine
23:42 <Vanhayes> warrock barely works
23:43 <spidey> but i get standard 50fps normally
23:43 <spidey> tron gives me 80~+
23:43 <spidey> that's just onboard
23:43 <spidey> but it doesn't support alpha shading or someshity
23:43 <spidey> so i can't play swat 4 :(
23:43 <Vanhayes> ys 50fps for me too until someone starts shooting at me/ near me then it usually laggs hard and freezes untill I die
23:43 <spidey> lol
23:44 <spidey> 2 minutes!
23:44 <spidey> bah
23:44 <Vanhayes> well this comp will do me untill next year, when i probly wont have a comp at all for a year or so
23:44 <spidey> gotta get the patch to
23:44 <spidey> why?
23:44 <Vanhayes> moving out west
23:45 <spidey> heh
23:45 <spidey> i payed for my computer
23:45 <Vanhayes> and money is going to be tight
23:45 <spidey> allowance ;x
23:45 <Vanhayes> well I have one I could bring but there isnt going to be alot of room
23:45 <spidey> fucking try saving with $20 a week for a 1k compute
23:45 <spidey> computer
23:45 <Vanhayes> could take a while
23:46 <spidey> no shit
23:46 <spidey> my mom payed $200 or so
23:46 <spidey> but it's still mine ;x
23:46 <Vanhayes> I should be making at least $1000 a week out there
23:46 <spidey> o.o
23:46 <Vanhayes> $1000 being low
23:46 <spidey> O.O
23:46 <spidey> i'm moving there
23:46 <Vanhayes> plus having at least 4 roomates
23:46 <Vanhayes> which is the no room part
23:47 <spidey> well
23:47 <spidey> atleast you don't pay much for rent
23:47 <spidey> lol
23:48 <spidey> hmm
23:48 <spidey> is warrock on 1 server
23:48 <spidey> or can people have there own?
23:49 <Vanhayes> there is a tonn of servers
23:49 <spidey> jesus
23:49 <spidey> wow
23:49 <Vanhayes> you can join an empty one and be in control of it
23:49 <Vanhayes> afaik
23:49 <spidey> a geforce or radeon for minimum specs
23:49 <spidey> no way i'll be able run this
23:50 <Vanhayes> i like the new additions
23:50 <spidey> i'ma try
23:50 <Vanhayes> good luck, im gonna go eat brb
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23:58 <spidey> 9,319 files!??!
23:58 <spidey> that's a huge game
23:58 <spidey> that's almost like unpacking my old win98 install
23:58 <spidey> lol
23:59 <Vanhayes> hmm looks like there's an update too
23:59 <Vanhayes> 68.48 mb

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