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Log from 2006-08-24:
--- Day changed Thu Aug 24 2006
00:07 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:07 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:07 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:25 <DrJoeTron> spidey
00:25 <DrJoeTron> spidey
00:25 <DrJoeTron> what does your house smell like
00:25 <DrJoeTron> what does your house smell like
00:28 <luke-jr_> smoke
00:28 <luke-jr_> smoke
00:28 <luke-jr_> =p
00:28 <luke-jr_> =p
00:31 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: you there?
00:31 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: you there?
00:43 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-151-204-205-142.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
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00:46 <Lucifer_arma> <luke-jr_> ...
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> <luke-jr_> ...
00:46 <luke-jr_> ...
00:46 <luke-jr_> ...
00:47 <Your_mom_arma> ...
00:47 <Your_mom_arma> ...
00:48 <Vanhayes> ,,,
00:48 <Vanhayes> ,,,
00:48 <Vanhayes> bbl actually
00:48 <Vanhayes> bbl actually
00:48 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034188413.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["So thats what that button does...."]
00:48 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034188413.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["So thats what that button does...."]
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> forums down?
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> forums down?
00:49 <Your_mom_arma> noms
00:49 <Your_mom_arma> noms
00:49 <luke-jr_> blame guru3 asap!
00:49 <luke-jr_> blame guru3 asap!
00:53 <Your_mom_arma> like to note that the ladle has less people then the spoon and that the cup will likely be 2020 vs someone in a game of sumo
00:53 <Your_mom_arma> like to note that the ladle has less people then the spoon and that the cup will likely be 2020 vs someone in a game of sumo
01:05 <spidey> ?
01:05 <spidey> ?
01:06 <Your_mom_arma> spoon had 87players and 8 teams
01:06 <Your_mom_arma> spoon had 87players and 8 teams
01:06 <spidey> yes?
01:06 <spidey> yes?
01:07 <spidey> i'm not sure what you mean/wanting to do
01:07 <spidey> i'm not sure what you mean/wanting to do
01:07 <spidey> 'er, that was ment for another window
01:07 <spidey> 'er, that was ment for another window
01:08 <Your_mom_arma> first ladle had 75 players(registered for a team) 7 teams
01:08 <Your_mom_arma> first ladle had 75 players(registered for a team) 7 teams
01:08 <spidey> registered isn't relavent
01:08 <spidey> registered isn't relavent
01:08 <Your_mom_arma> it was less then 75
01:08 <Your_mom_arma> it was less then 75
01:08 <spidey> like LOL and SP and CT had a shitload and hardly any played
01:08 <spidey> like LOL and SP and CT had a shitload and hardly any played
01:08 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
01:08 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
01:09 <spidey> dunno, it's fun either way :p
01:09 <spidey> dunno, it's fun either way :p
01:09 <spidey> and i'm out of practice -_-
01:09 <spidey> and i'm out of practice -_-
01:10 <Your_mom_arma> second ladle had 54 players(registered) on 4 teams
01:10 <Your_mom_arma> second ladle had 54 players(registered) on 4 teams
01:10 <spidey> well
01:10 <spidey> well
01:10 <spidey> fortress isn't close to as popular as it used to be
01:10 <spidey> fortress isn't close to as popular as it used to be
01:11 <spidey> bugfarm went away <half the players went away
01:11 <spidey> bugfarm went away <half the players went away
01:11 <spidey> fortress players anyways
01:11 <spidey> fortress players anyways
01:11 <Your_mom_arma> i guess i was just trying to point out that the spoon was larger then the ladle 
01:11 <Your_mom_arma> i guess i was just trying to point out that the spoon was larger then the ladle 
01:11 <luke-jr_> we should start a spread.armagetronad.net site =p
01:11 <luke-jr_> we should start a spread.armagetronad.net site =p
01:12 <spidey> lol
01:12 <spidey> lol
01:12 <spidey> there's alot of new players
01:12 <spidey> there's alot of new players
01:12 <Your_mom_arma> 2020 was a bit aggressive in trying to organize these so close together with little leadership/solid rules
01:12 <Your_mom_arma> 2020 was a bit aggressive in trying to organize these so close together with little leadership/solid rules
01:12 <spidey> well
01:12 <spidey> well
01:12 <spidey> with the groups organizing them selves it's worked pretty good
01:12 <spidey> with the groups organizing them selves it's worked pretty good
01:13 <spidey> there hasn't been any problems i've seen in them 
01:13 <spidey> there hasn't been any problems i've seen in them 
01:13 <spidey> except the spoon
01:13 <spidey> except the spoon
01:13 <spidey> the ladle tournys have been fine
01:13 <spidey> the ladle tournys have been fine
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> but they where smaller
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> but they where smaller
01:14 <Your_mom_arma> he should make another spoon
01:14 <Your_mom_arma> he should make another spoon
01:14 <Your_mom_arma> the ladle is supposed to be 175~players or more
01:14 <Your_mom_arma> the ladle is supposed to be 175~players or more
01:14 <spidey> well
01:14 <spidey> well
01:14 <spidey> AW will mostlikely always win the ladle :p
01:14 <spidey> AW will mostlikely always win the ladle :p
01:14 <Your_mom_arma> according to his plan
01:14 <Your_mom_arma> according to his plan
01:15 <spidey> are there even 175 tron players?
01:15 <spidey> are there even 175 tron players?
01:15 <Your_mom_arma> active unlikely
01:15 <Your_mom_arma> active unlikely
01:15 <spidey> o.o
01:15 <spidey> o.o
01:16 <luke-jr_> we need to work on PR =p
01:16 <luke-jr_> we need to work on PR =p
01:16 <spidey> PR?
01:16 <spidey> PR?
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> public relations
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> public relations
01:16 <spidey> why? i thought we liked to kill Lucifer_arma 
01:16 <spidey> why? i thought we liked to kill Lucifer_arma 
01:16 <spidey> 'er
01:16 <spidey> 'er
01:17 <spidey> why? i thought we liked to kill luke-jr_ 
01:17 <spidey> why? i thought we liked to kill luke-jr_ 
01:18 <luke-jr_> spidey: it's not funny anymore, btw
01:18 <luke-jr_> spidey: it's not funny anymore, btw
01:18 <spidey> i like it
01:18 <spidey> i like it
01:18 <Your_mom_arma> did i miss something?
01:18 <Your_mom_arma> did i miss something?
01:18 <luke-jr_> yeah, but you're immature =p
01:18 <luke-jr_> yeah, but you're immature =p
01:18 <spidey> i would harrass you,but i forgot your number and the phone's inuse
01:18 <spidey> i would harrass you,but i forgot your number and the phone's inuse
01:18 <luke-jr_> haha
01:18 <luke-jr_> haha
01:19 <luke-jr_> good thing you don't know what a log is
01:19 <luke-jr_> good thing you don't know what a log is
01:19 <spidey> #last --from luke-jr_  --with (
01:19 <spidey> #last --from luke-jr_  --with (
01:19 <armabot> spidey: [20:59:07] <luke-jr_> (913) 674-4395
01:19 <armabot> spidey: [20:59:07] <luke-jr_> (913) 674-4395
01:19 <spidey> hahah
01:19 <spidey> hahah
01:20 <spidey> it's going in a txt this time :p
01:20 <spidey> it's going in a txt this time :p
01:20 <luke-jr_> -.-
01:20 <luke-jr_> -.-
01:20 <luke-jr_> you said that like 3 times ago
01:20 <luke-jr_> you said that like 3 times ago
01:20 <spidey> yes but it was more trouble then
01:20 <spidey> yes but it was more trouble then
01:20 <luke-jr_> ...
01:20 <luke-jr_> ...
01:20 <spidey> now i just right click desktop and make a new txt :p
01:20 <spidey> now i just right click desktop and make a new txt :p
01:20 <luke-jr_> ...
01:20 <luke-jr_> ...
01:21 <spidey> i was using a fluxbox-like shell for windows
01:21 <spidey> i was using a fluxbox-like shell for windows
01:21  * luke-jr_ disconnects that #
01:21  * luke-jr_ disconnects that #
01:21 <spidey> i had to do alot of right clicking then dir changing
01:21 <spidey> i had to do alot of right clicking then dir changing
01:21 <spidey> then make the file and saze
01:21 <spidey> then make the file and saze
01:21 <spidey> s/saze/save
01:21 <spidey> s/saze/save
01:21 <luke-jr_> or
01:21 <luke-jr_> or
01:21 <luke-jr_> you can open notepad
01:21 <luke-jr_> you can open notepad
01:21 <luke-jr_> paste it
01:21 <luke-jr_> paste it
01:21 <luke-jr_> and save
01:21 <luke-jr_> and save
01:21 <luke-jr_> ...
01:21 <luke-jr_> ...
01:22 <spidey> didn't you read what i said before that??
01:22 <spidey> didn't you read what i said before that??
01:22 <spidey> <spidey> i was using a fluxbox-like shell for windows
01:22 <spidey> <spidey> i was using a fluxbox-like shell for windows
01:22 <spidey> it's more trouble than it's worth :p
01:22 <spidey> it's more trouble than it's worth :p
01:26 <Your_mom_arma> if anyone wants to fixup my last wiki edit feel free
01:26 <Your_mom_arma> if anyone wants to fixup my last wiki edit feel free
01:29 <Your_mom_arma> Garismo Skip Your_mom Lackadaisical MaZuffeR nemostultae eggcozy joda.bot
01:29 <Your_mom_arma> Garismo Skip Your_mom Lackadaisical MaZuffeR nemostultae eggcozy joda.bot
01:30 <spidey> ?
01:30 <spidey> ?
01:30 <Your_mom_arma> would make a good team for the ladle
01:30 <Your_mom_arma> would make a good team for the ladle
01:31 <spidey> where's maz been anyways?
01:31 <spidey> where's maz been anyways?
01:31 <spidey> Your_mom_arma,  you should join WS :p
01:31 <spidey> Your_mom_arma,  you should join WS :p
01:37 <Your_mom_arma> wild squirrels?
01:37 <Your_mom_arma> wild squirrels?
01:38 <spidey> Wraith Squadron
01:38 <spidey> Wraith Squadron
01:38 <spidey> :p
01:38 <spidey> :p
01:39 <spidey> we got practice tonight at 9cst if you want to :p
01:39 <spidey> we got practice tonight at 9cst if you want to :p
01:45 <Your_mom_arma> did you guys finish that one save game of freeciv yet?
01:45 <Your_mom_arma> did you guys finish that one save game of freeciv yet?
01:46 <spidey> no
01:46 <spidey> no
01:46 <spidey> lol
01:46 <spidey> lol
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02:11 <spidey> hmm
02:11 <spidey> hmm
02:11 <spidey> i like 70 dpi o.o
02:11 <spidey> i like 70 dpi o.o
02:12 <spidey> damn
02:12 <spidey> damn
02:12 <spidey> brb gotta restart
02:12 <spidey> brb gotta restart
02:17 <spidey> hmm
02:17 <spidey> hmm
02:17 <spidey> i'ma actually have to use my glasses now
02:17 <spidey> i'ma actually have to use my glasses now
02:17 <spidey> -_-
02:17 <spidey> -_-
02:17 <spidey> 70dpi @ 1280x1024
02:17 <spidey> 70dpi @ 1280x1024
02:24 <spidey> #night
02:24 <spidey> #night
02:24 <armabot> Good night spidey!
02:24 <armabot> Good night spidey!
02:25 <spidey> hmmm
02:25 <spidey> hmmm
02:25 <spidey> i don't get a vhost anymore :(
02:25 <spidey> i don't get a vhost anymore :(
02:25 <spidey> (i=spidey@72.20.20.167):
02:25 <spidey> (i=spidey@72.20.20.167):
02:25 <spidey> that should be spidey@mentally.humped.org
02:25 <spidey> that should be spidey@mentally.humped.org
02:26 <luke-jr_> spidey: why do you like 70 dpi?
02:26 <luke-jr_> spidey: why do you like 70 dpi?
02:27 <spidey> small
02:27 <spidey> small
02:27 <luke-jr_> and why would you need glasses
02:27 <luke-jr_> and why would you need glasses
02:27 <luke-jr_> um
02:27 <luke-jr_> um
02:27 <luke-jr_> 70 dpi is about as large as you get...
02:27 <luke-jr_> 70 dpi is about as large as you get...
02:27 <spidey> no.....
02:27 <spidey> no.....
02:28 <luke-jr_>   resolution:    103x110 dots per inch
02:28 <luke-jr_>   resolution:    103x110 dots per inch
02:28 <spidey> .....
02:28 <spidey> .....
02:28 <spidey> i was at 96dpi a minute ago
02:28 <spidey> i was at 96dpi a minute ago
02:28 <luke-jr_> 96dpi is smaller than 70dpi
02:28 <luke-jr_> 96dpi is smaller than 70dpi
02:29 <luke-jr_> well, more dense
02:29 <luke-jr_> well, more dense
02:29 <luke-jr_> which makes 1 pixel smaller physically
02:29 <luke-jr_> which makes 1 pixel smaller physically
02:29 <spidey> 70dpi is smaller -_-
02:29 <spidey> 70dpi is smaller -_-
02:29 <luke-jr_> as a result, graphics are smaller with a larger value dpi
02:29 <luke-jr_> as a result, graphics are smaller with a larger value dpi
02:29 <spidey> .....
02:29 <spidey> .....
02:30 <luke-jr_> non-scalable graphics, anyway
02:30 <luke-jr_> non-scalable graphics, anyway
02:30 <luke-jr_> that's the only different in DPIs-- as you get bigger # DPIs, non-scalable graphics look smaller
02:30 <luke-jr_> that's the only different in DPIs-- as you get bigger # DPIs, non-scalable graphics look smaller
02:30 <luke-jr_> well, display quality goes up too
02:30 <luke-jr_> well, display quality goes up too
02:31 <spidey> i'm sorry to tell ya, if 96dpi is smaller than this (70dpi) i don't see how i was reading a fucking thing before ;p
02:31 <spidey> i'm sorry to tell ya, if 96dpi is smaller than this (70dpi) i don't see how i was reading a fucking thing before ;p
02:31 <spidey> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/156/70dpivr5.jpg
02:31 <spidey> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/156/70dpivr5.jpg
02:31 <luke-jr_> DPI has no effect on text
02:31 <luke-jr_> DPI has no effect on text
02:31 <spidey> yes it does
02:31 <spidey> yes it does
02:31 <luke-jr_> only if something is misconfigured
02:31 <luke-jr_> only if something is misconfigured
02:31 <spidey> it's not linux, duh
02:31 <spidey> it's not linux, duh
02:31 <spidey> now stfu :p
02:31 <spidey> now stfu :p
02:32 <luke-jr_> text size is given in points
02:32 <luke-jr_> text size is given in points
02:32 <luke-jr_> a point is 1/72 of an inch
02:32 <luke-jr_> a point is 1/72 of an inch
02:32 <luke-jr_> so text at 72pts is always 1 inch tall
02:32 <luke-jr_> so text at 72pts is always 1 inch tall
02:32 <spidey> lets see
02:32 <spidey> lets see
02:32 <spidey> 120dpi is LARGE size
02:32 <spidey> 120dpi is LARGE size
02:32 <spidey> 96dpi is normal
02:32 <spidey> 96dpi is normal
02:32 <spidey> and my custom 70 is small
02:32 <spidey> and my custom 70 is small
02:33 <luke-jr_> where are you specifying DPI?
02:33 <luke-jr_> where are you specifying DPI?
02:33 <Your_mom_arma> what kind of match is that
02:33 <Your_mom_arma> what kind of match is that
02:33 <Your_mom_arma> math
02:33 <Your_mom_arma> math
02:33 <luke-jr_> you need to set DPI to the correct value, it can't be any random number
02:33 <luke-jr_> you need to set DPI to the correct value, it can't be any random number
02:33 <spidey> ......
02:33 <spidey> ......
02:33 <Your_mom_arma> 120dpi would have smaller dots but more clarity
02:33 <Your_mom_arma> 120dpi would have smaller dots but more clarity
02:34 <luke-jr_> DPI is a ratio between resolution and monitor size
02:34 <luke-jr_> DPI is a ratio between resolution and monitor size
02:34 <spidey> brb
02:34 <spidey> brb
02:34 <luke-jr_> spidey: what size is your monitor?
02:34 <luke-jr_> spidey: what size is your monitor?
02:34 <spidey> 17'
02:34 <spidey> 17'
02:34 <spidey> now look at this shit
02:34 <spidey> now look at this shit
02:34 <spidey> another screenshot
02:34 <spidey> another screenshot
02:35 <luke-jr_> what resolution?
02:35 <luke-jr_> what resolution?
02:35 <spidey> 1280x1024
02:35 <spidey> 1280x1024
02:35 <spidey> hold on 
02:35 <spidey> hold on 
02:35 <spidey> ok
02:35 <spidey> ok
02:36 <spidey> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/156/70dpivr5.jpg
02:36 <spidey> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/156/70dpivr5.jpg
02:36 <spidey> that's 70dpi
02:36 <spidey> that's 70dpi
02:36 <spidey> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6140/120dpiqu6.jpg
02:36 <spidey> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6140/120dpiqu6.jpg
02:36 <spidey> that's 120dpi
02:36 <spidey> that's 120dpi
02:36 <spidey> now which is smaller??
02:36 <spidey> now which is smaller??
02:36 <luke-jr_> then your DPI is 96.42
02:36 <luke-jr_> then your DPI is 96.42
02:36 <spidey> exactly :p
02:36 <spidey> exactly :p
02:36 <spidey> no it's not anymore
02:36 <spidey> no it's not anymore
02:36 <spidey> i changed it
02:36 <spidey> i changed it
02:36 <luke-jr_> it is
02:36 <luke-jr_> it is
02:37 <luke-jr_> you can only change DPI by changing the monitor's size or your resolution
02:37 <luke-jr_> you can only change DPI by changing the monitor's size or your resolution
02:37 <spidey> really?
02:37 <spidey> really?
02:37 <luke-jr_> DPI is not an arbitrary value
02:37 <luke-jr_> DPI is not an arbitrary value
02:37 <spidey> that's why i got a pizels per inch setting here?
02:37 <spidey> that's why i got a pizels per inch setting here?
02:37 <spidey> because i can't change it? :p
02:37 <spidey> because i can't change it? :p
02:37 <luke-jr_> you need to calculate that based on your monitor's size
02:37 <luke-jr_> you need to calculate that based on your monitor's size
02:37 <luke-jr_> if you put the wrong number, you're just lying to the computer
02:37 <luke-jr_> if you put the wrong number, you're just lying to the computer
02:38 <spidey> .....
02:38 <spidey> .....
02:38 <luke-jr_> http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
02:38 <luke-jr_> http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
02:38 <spidey> mom your on windows aren't you?
02:38 <spidey> mom your on windows aren't you?
02:38 <Your_mom_arma> that adjust a fonts dpi only
02:38 <Your_mom_arma> that adjust a fonts dpi only
02:38 <luke-jr_> if you tell the computer there are 120 DPI when there's really only 96, it puts 120 dots to make an inch but it's really longer than an inch
02:38 <luke-jr_> if you tell the computer there are 120 DPI when there's really only 96, it puts 120 dots to make an inch but it's really longer than an inch
02:39 <luke-jr_> 120 DPI means you have 120 pixels that fit in an inch
02:39 <luke-jr_> 120 DPI means you have 120 pixels that fit in an inch
02:39 <Your_mom_arma> i see the setting your changing
02:39 <Your_mom_arma> i see the setting your changing
02:39 <Your_mom_arma> changes it so that the fonts get more dpi then normal
02:39 <Your_mom_arma> changes it so that the fonts get more dpi then normal
02:40 <spidey> no
02:40 <spidey> no
02:40 <luke-jr_> 1024x768 would be 75 DPI for 17"
02:40 <luke-jr_> 1024x768 would be 75 DPI for 17"
02:40 <spidey> well yes
02:40 <spidey> well yes
02:40 <spidey> kinda
02:40 <spidey> kinda
02:40 <spidey> luke-jr_,  shush ;p
02:40 <spidey> luke-jr_,  shush ;p
02:40 <luke-jr_> if you want 70 DPI, your resolution needs to be 950x712
02:40 <luke-jr_> if you want 70 DPI, your resolution needs to be 950x712
02:41 <spidey> no
02:41 <spidey> no
02:41 <luke-jr_> yes
02:41 <luke-jr_> yes
02:41 <luke-jr_> or you need a bigger monitor
02:41 <luke-jr_> or you need a bigger monitor
02:41 <Your_mom_arma> did you read the caption under display?
02:41 <Your_mom_arma> did you read the caption under display?
02:41 <spidey> ya
02:41 <spidey> ya
02:41 <Your_mom_arma> Its just poorly worded
02:41 <Your_mom_arma> Its just poorly worded
02:42 <luke-jr_> a 23.4" monitor can do 1280x1024 at 70 DPI ;)
02:42 <luke-jr_> a 23.4" monitor can do 1280x1024 at 70 DPI ;)
02:42 <luke-jr_> if you have 1280x1024 and you tell the computer it's 70 DPI, the computer thinks your monitor is 23.4"
02:42 <luke-jr_> if you have 1280x1024 and you tell the computer it's 70 DPI, the computer thinks your monitor is 23.4"
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> fonts get more dpi, so if the moniter has a size of 75 dpi it increases the dpi of the font to say 120 only its adding dots not resizing
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> fonts get more dpi, so if the moniter has a size of 75 dpi it increases the dpi of the font to say 120 only its adding dots not resizing
02:43 <spidey> shit
02:43 <spidey> shit
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> im no better at rewording this
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> im no better at rewording this
02:43 <luke-jr_> spidey: tell your computer to draw a 1 inch line-- Win has a ruler program, right?
02:43 <luke-jr_> spidey: tell your computer to draw a 1 inch line-- Win has a ruler program, right?
02:44 <luke-jr_> it will be 1.25 inches if you measure it
02:44 <luke-jr_> it will be 1.25 inches if you measure it
02:44 <spidey> listening to luke-jr_  over here i changed the appearence settings back to default
02:44 <spidey> listening to luke-jr_  over here i changed the appearence settings back to default
02:44 <spidey> now it's all ugly again -_-
02:44 <spidey> now it's all ugly again -_-
02:44 <spidey> well
02:44 <spidey> well
02:44 <spidey> watching luke-jr_ *
02:44 <spidey> watching luke-jr_ *
02:44 <luke-jr_> spidey: you know, there should be a setting for font size
02:44 <luke-jr_> spidey: you know, there should be a setting for font size
02:44 <spidey> wasn't paying attention to what i was doing :<
02:44 <spidey> wasn't paying attention to what i was doing :<
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> did you read what i wrote luke-jr_ spidey?
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> did you read what i wrote luke-jr_ spidey?
02:45 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: ping, come teach spidey about DPI
02:45 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: ping, come teach spidey about DPI
02:45 <luke-jr_> cuz he won't listen to me
02:45 <luke-jr_> cuz he won't listen to me
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> and everyone ignores me
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> and everyone ignores me
02:45 <spidey> lol
02:45 <spidey> lol
02:45 <luke-jr_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch
02:45 <luke-jr_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch
02:45 <spidey> yes i saw mom
02:45 <spidey> yes i saw mom
02:45 <luke-jr_> hm
02:45 <luke-jr_> hm
02:46 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, nah i only ignore luke-jr_ 
02:46 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, nah i only ignore luke-jr_ 
02:46 <luke-jr_> wikipedia's article sucks a bit
02:46 <luke-jr_> wikipedia's article sucks a bit
02:46 <Your_mom_arma> its a poorly worded setting that increases(decreases) the size of fonts
02:46 <Your_mom_arma> its a poorly worded setting that increases(decreases) the size of fonts
02:47 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: nope
02:47 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: nope
02:47 <spidey> luke-jr_,  you're on linux, go away
02:47 <spidey> luke-jr_,  you're on linux, go away
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> ?
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> ?
02:47 <luke-jr_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixels_per_inch
02:47 <luke-jr_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixels_per_inch
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> not dpi
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> not dpi
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> i know what dpi is
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> i know what dpi is
02:48 <luke-jr_> PPI = DPI
02:48 <luke-jr_> PPI = DPI
02:49 <Your_mom_arma> the setting he's changing uses the acronym dpi wrong and i just cant reword the setting well
02:49 <Your_mom_arma> the setting he's changing uses the acronym dpi wrong and i just cant reword the setting well
02:49 <luke-jr_> DPI has nothing to do with fonts
02:49 <luke-jr_> DPI has nothing to do with fonts
02:49 <spidey> luke-jr_,  like i said
02:49 <spidey> luke-jr_,  like i said
02:49 <Your_mom_arma> indirectly it does
02:49 <Your_mom_arma> indirectly it does
02:50 <luke-jr_> DPI is a scale
02:50 <luke-jr_> DPI is a scale
02:50 <luke-jr_> ok, let's try to explain this another way
02:50 <luke-jr_> ok, let's try to explain this another way
02:51 <luke-jr_> take your horizontal resolution
02:51 <luke-jr_> take your horizontal resolution
02:51 <luke-jr_> 1280, right?
02:51 <luke-jr_> 1280, right?
02:51 <luke-jr_> divide it by the width of your monitor's viewing area in inches
02:51 <luke-jr_> divide it by the width of your monitor's viewing area in inches
02:51 <luke-jr_> a 17" (diagonal measurement) monitor is 13.27" × 13.6"
02:51 <luke-jr_> a 17" (diagonal measurement) monitor is 13.27" × 13.6"
02:51 <luke-jr_> that's the DPI
02:51 <luke-jr_> that's the DPI
02:52 <Your_mom_arma> are you telling me that scaling a moniters dpi wont effect the size of the winowed apps and font as they appear to the human eye?
02:52 <Your_mom_arma> are you telling me that scaling a moniters dpi wont effect the size of the winowed apps and font as they appear to the human eye?
02:52 <luke-jr_> if you lie to the computer about the DPI, it will make things look the wrong size
02:52 <luke-jr_> if you lie to the computer about the DPI, it will make things look the wrong size
02:52 <spidey> so...
02:52 <spidey> so...
02:52 <Your_mom_arma> yes
02:52 <Your_mom_arma> yes
02:52 <spidey> that's what  i want
02:52 <spidey> that's what  i want
02:52 <luke-jr_> you can only set the monitor's DPI by changing the resolution
02:52 <luke-jr_> you can only set the monitor's DPI by changing the resolution
02:52 <spidey> now go away
02:52 <spidey> now go away
02:52 <luke-jr_> no
02:52 <luke-jr_> no
02:52 <luke-jr_> you want to make text smaller or bigger
02:52 <luke-jr_> you want to make text smaller or bigger
02:52 <luke-jr_> that's a completely different thing
02:52 <luke-jr_> that's a completely different thing
02:52 <luke-jr_> that's font size
02:52 <luke-jr_> that's font size
02:52 <spidey> no
02:52 <spidey> no
02:53 <spidey> i want EVERYTHING smaller
02:53 <spidey> i want EVERYTHING smaller
02:53 <luke-jr_> #g 1280 / 13.27
02:53 <luke-jr_> #g 1280 / 13.27
02:53 <Your_mom_arma> luke your misinterperting me
02:53 <Your_mom_arma> luke your misinterperting me
02:53 <armabot> 1,280 / 13.27 = 96.4581763
02:53 <armabot> 1,280 / 13.27 = 96.4581763
02:53 <luke-jr_> spidey: so change everything's size settings
02:53 <luke-jr_> spidey: so change everything's size settings
02:53 <spidey> they're as small as they go
02:53 <spidey> they're as small as they go
02:53 <spidey> settings wise
02:53 <spidey> settings wise
02:53 <spidey> now lemme lone -_-
02:53 <spidey> now lemme lone -_-
02:53 <luke-jr_> spidey: do you want an inch to be smaller?
02:53 <luke-jr_> spidey: do you want an inch to be smaller?
02:55 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft_: you can teach him
02:55 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft_: you can teach him
03:03 <spidey> luke-jr_,  yes, without losing my resolution
03:03 <spidey> luke-jr_,  yes, without losing my resolution
03:03 <spidey> now i'm going to sleep till 12pm :)
03:03 <spidey> now i'm going to sleep till 12pm :)
03:09 <spidey> well
03:09 <spidey> well
03:09 <spidey> i thought i was
03:09 <spidey> i thought i was
03:09 <spidey> supper's almost done and i haven't eaten in over a day -_-
03:09 <spidey> supper's almost done and i haven't eaten in over a day -_-
03:09 <spidey> ran outta pizzas!
03:09 <spidey> ran outta pizzas!
03:11 <Your_mom_arma> can we add a setting so i dont get map_uri unknown please upgrade
03:11 <Your_mom_arma> can we add a setting so i dont get map_uri unknown please upgrade
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03:23 <spidey> deja_vu, 
03:23 <spidey> deja_vu, 
03:23 <spidey> deja_vu, 
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04:02 <DrJoeTron> hmm darwinia is only 20 bucks
04:02 <DrJoeTron> hmm darwinia is only 20 bucks
04:04 <spidey> ffinally some food
04:04 <spidey> ffinally some food
04:04 <spidey> now i gotot sleep
04:04 <spidey> now i gotot sleep
04:04 <spidey> #night
04:04 <spidey> #night
04:04 <armabot> Good night spidey!
04:04 <armabot> Good night spidey!
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> ripoff
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> ripoff
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.darwinia.co.uk/about/images/engineer.gif
04:09 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.darwinia.co.uk/about/images/engineer.gif
04:14 <DrJoeTron> haha now you know why i want to buy it
04:14 <DrJoeTron> haha now you know why i want to buy it
04:14 <DrJoeTron> i played the demo
04:14 <DrJoeTron> i played the demo
04:14 <DrJoeTron> alot of fun
04:14 <DrJoeTron> alot of fun
04:14 <DrJoeTron> pretty big demo too
04:14 <DrJoeTron> pretty big demo too
04:15 <DrJoeTron> those are engineers
04:15 <DrJoeTron> those are engineers
04:16 <DrJoeTron> those things are awesome
04:16 <DrJoeTron> those things are awesome
04:30 <DrJoeTron> i really need to join the SA  boards
04:30 <DrJoeTron> i really need to join the SA  boards
04:31 <Your_mom_arma> sa?
04:31 <Your_mom_arma> sa?
04:32 <DrJoeTron> something awful
04:32 <DrJoeTron> something awful
04:32 <DrJoeTron> bbl
04:32 <DrJoeTron> bbl
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05:00 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: spidey  luke-jr_  want to finish that game tonight?
05:00 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: spidey  luke-jr_  want to finish that game tonight?
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> can't, I need to work
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> can't, I need to work
05:01 <Vanhayes> ah ok
05:01 <Vanhayes> ah ok
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> school starts monday and I haven't worked enough these couple of weeks
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> school starts monday and I haven't worked enough these couple of weeks
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> on the bright side, it looks like I'm getting a pretty good-sized loan, and this'll be the first semester my financial aid covers completely, supplies and everything
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> on the bright side, it looks like I'm getting a pretty good-sized loan, and this'll be the first semester my financial aid covers completely, supplies and everything
05:31 <mkzelda> anyone have an account on OiNK
05:31 <mkzelda> anyone have an account on OiNK
05:32 <Your_mom_arma> acronym?
05:32 <Your_mom_arma> acronym?
05:32 <mkzelda> nope
05:32 <mkzelda> nope
05:32 <mkzelda> not that i know of
05:32 <mkzelda> not that i know of
05:32 <mkzelda> torrent community, invite only
05:32 <mkzelda> torrent community, invite only
05:32 <mkzelda> didnt use to be
05:32 <mkzelda> didnt use to be
05:33 <mkzelda> lost my account for inactivity some time back, didnt bother to get an account once it became invite only
05:33 <mkzelda> lost my account for inactivity some time back, didnt bother to get an account once it became invite only
05:34 <mkzelda> its funny if you google "oink invite" you'll find a ton of ppl asking for invites on forums
05:34 <mkzelda> its funny if you google "oink invite" you'll find a ton of ppl asking for invites on forums
05:34 <mkzelda> i figured I'd solicit on irc
05:34 <mkzelda> i figured I'd solicit on irc
05:54 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: loans are evil-- avoid at all costs
05:54 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: loans are evil-- avoid at all costs
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06:40  * Lucifer_arma notes you don't take financial aid advice from someone who hates college
06:40  * Lucifer_arma notes you don't take financial aid advice from someone who hates college
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> If you repeat a course in an effort to raise your grade, each instance in which you took the course will be counted when your GPA is computed.  <--- no point retaking calc 2 then
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> If you repeat a course in an effort to raise your grade, each instance in which you took the course will be counted when your GPA is computed.  <--- no point retaking calc 2 then
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06:42 <Lucifer_arma> hey DrJoeTron, when you do start classes?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> hey DrJoeTron, when you do start classes?
06:43 <DrJoeTron> i started them on monday
06:43 <DrJoeTron> i started them on monday
06:43 <DrJoeTron> schedule is great
06:43 <DrJoeTron> schedule is great
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> aha.  I start on Monday, heh.  :)
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> aha.  I start on Monday, heh.  :)
06:44  * Lucifer_arma is looking over transfer information at UT right now, considering starting in on his resume/essays
06:44  * Lucifer_arma is looking over transfer information at UT right now, considering starting in on his resume/essays
06:44 <DrJoeTron> im pretty much restarting from the ground up
06:44 <DrJoeTron> im pretty much restarting from the ground up
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> really?  wow
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> really?  wow
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> so what're you after now, then?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> so what're you after now, then?
06:48 <DrJoeTron> still transferring
06:48 <DrJoeTron> still transferring
06:48 <DrJoeTron> but because i switched majors
06:48 <DrJoeTron> but because i switched majors
06:48 <DrJoeTron> the requirements are completely different
06:48 <DrJoeTron> the requirements are completely different
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> (Any significant drop in your grade point average in the courses you take before enrolling at UT Austin may result in the withdrawal of the university's offer of admission.)
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> (Any significant drop in your grade point average in the courses you take before enrolling at UT Austin may result in the withdrawal of the university's offer of admission.)
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> ah, just be careful.  I know a guy who switched majors like 3 times at the community college when he got into the classes and realized he wasn't interested/too hard,
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> ah, just be careful.  I know a guy who switched majors like 3 times at the community college when he got into the classes and realized he wasn't interested/too hard,
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> now his GPA is like a 1.7 and he's on academic probation
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> now his GPA is like a 1.7 and he's on academic probation
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> smart guy, just a little young, partying out mostly instead of studying.  :/
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> smart guy, just a little young, partying out mostly instead of studying.  :/
06:51 <DrJoeTron> haha
06:51 <DrJoeTron> haha
06:52 <DrJoeTron> im aware
06:52 <DrJoeTron> im aware
06:52 <DrJoeTron> i got excellent grades last semester
06:52 <DrJoeTron> i got excellent grades last semester
06:52 <DrJoeTron> best in my life
06:52 <DrJoeTron> best in my life
06:52 <DrJoeTron> so i think il be going places
06:52 <DrJoeTron> so i think il be going places
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> and quit typing like Titnass, heh
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> and quit typing like Titnass, heh
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> I need to find out about honors programs in my community college now.  I've only got 1.5 years left there, so if I'm gonna do it, now's the time
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> I need to find out about honors programs in my community college now.  I've only got 1.5 years left there, so if I'm gonna do it, now's the time
06:53 <DrJoeTron> oh 
06:53 <DrJoeTron> oh 
06:53 <DrJoeTron> heh good luck
06:53 <DrJoeTron> heh good luck
06:54 <DrJoeTron> im starting to see people at my community college from my high school who couldnt hack it their first year at a university :D
06:54 <DrJoeTron> im starting to see people at my community college from my high school who couldnt hack it their first year at a university :D
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> I won't see that.  :/
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> I won't see that.  :/
06:56 <DrJoeTron> thats a good thing, these are people i never wanted to see again
06:56 <DrJoeTron> thats a good thing, these are people i never wanted to see again
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> but I just spent the summer with kids who failed calc 2 at UT and took it at the community college instead so they could stay on track in the fall
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> but I just spent the summer with kids who failed calc 2 at UT and took it at the community college instead so they could stay on track in the fall
06:57 <DrJoeTron> college has turned me into quite the anti socialite
06:57 <DrJoeTron> college has turned me into quite the anti socialite
06:59 <DrJoeTron> i dont know why, i usually very talkative (if you havent noticed) :p
06:59 <DrJoeTron> i dont know why, i usually very talkative (if you havent noticed) :p
06:59 <GodTodd> goddamn my farts stink :/
06:59 <GodTodd> goddamn my farts stink :/
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> I'm really really looking forward to the fall
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> I'm really really looking forward to the fall
07:01 <DrJoeTron> its been great for me so far
07:01 <DrJoeTron> its been great for me so far
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> after the wasteland of snobby UT kids that was my calc 2 class, I'm looking forward to being back with the normally down-to-earth ACC kids
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> after the wasteland of snobby UT kids that was my calc 2 class, I'm looking forward to being back with the normally down-to-earth ACC kids
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how I'm gonna survive UT at this point.  I might have to take a rifle up to the top of the tower and start shooting people.
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how I'm gonna survive UT at this point.  I might have to take a rifle up to the top of the tower and start shooting people.
07:02 <GodTodd> heh
07:02 <GodTodd> heh
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman
07:05 <DrJoeTron> havent heard that name brought up in quite a long time
07:05 <DrJoeTron> havent heard that name brought up in quite a long time
07:05 <GodTodd> i have a couple rifles you could borrow if you need them ;)
07:05 <GodTodd> i have a couple rifles you could borrow if you need them ;)
07:05 <DrJoeTron> and he was an eagle scout :D
07:05 <DrJoeTron> and he was an eagle scout :D
07:08 <DrJoeTron> i rmember when i got my eagle
07:08 <DrJoeTron> i rmember when i got my eagle
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07:24 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: really?
07:24 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: really?
07:24 <DrJoeTron> #night
07:24 <DrJoeTron> #night
07:24 <armabot> Good night DrJoeTron!
07:24 <armabot> Good night DrJoeTron!
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07:26 <GodTodd> really what?
07:26 <GodTodd> really what?
07:27 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: you'll let me borrow some rifles? :)
07:27 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: you'll let me borrow some rifles? :)
07:27 <GodTodd> nah was offering them to Lucifer_arma
07:27 <GodTodd> nah was offering them to Lucifer_arma
07:27 <GodTodd> :)
07:27 <GodTodd> :)
07:28 <luke-jr_> makes sense, he's much closer
07:28 <luke-jr_> makes sense, he's much closer
07:28 <GodTodd> heh
07:28 <GodTodd> heh
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07:31 <luke-jr_> ...
07:31 <luke-jr_> ...
07:31 <luke-jr_> now when my daughter starts fussing
07:31 <luke-jr_> now when my daughter starts fussing
07:31 <luke-jr_> she says "I'm baby" first
07:31 <luke-jr_> she says "I'm baby" first
07:31 <luke-jr_> >.>
07:31 <luke-jr_> >.>
07:32 <GodTodd> how old?
07:32 <GodTodd> how old?
07:32 <luke-jr_> 11 mo
07:32 <luke-jr_> 11 mo
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07:33 <GodTodd> cool
07:33 <GodTodd> cool
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07:50 <luke-jr_> she's pretty strange
07:50 <luke-jr_> she's pretty strange
07:50 <luke-jr_> instead of playing with her toy, she prefers to take it apart piece by piece
07:50 <luke-jr_> instead of playing with her toy, she prefers to take it apart piece by piece
07:50 <luke-jr_> tho she hasn't quite figured out the cylinder
07:50 <luke-jr_> tho she hasn't quite figured out the cylinder
07:51 <GodTodd> yeah...my son does that a lot too :/
07:51 <GodTodd> yeah...my son does that a lot too :/
07:51 <GodTodd> not as much as he used to tho
07:51 <GodTodd> not as much as he used to tho
07:51 <GodTodd> heh
07:51 <GodTodd> heh
07:51 <luke-jr_> how old is he?
07:51 <luke-jr_> how old is he?
07:51 <GodTodd> that one is 8
07:51 <GodTodd> that one is 8
07:51 <luke-jr_> o.O
07:51 <luke-jr_> o.O
07:51 <luke-jr_> this goes on for 8 years? =p
07:51 <luke-jr_> this goes on for 8 years? =p
07:52 <GodTodd> depends on the kid i suppose ;)
07:52 <GodTodd> depends on the kid i suppose ;)
07:52 <luke-jr_> I guess LEGOs is the solution for when she's older...
07:52 <luke-jr_> I guess LEGOs is the solution for when she's older...
07:52 <luke-jr_> or maybe Knex
07:52 <luke-jr_> or maybe Knex
07:52 <GodTodd> dunno...i've stepped on so many of those in barefeet :)
07:52 <GodTodd> dunno...i've stepped on so many of those in barefeet :)
07:52 <luke-jr_> heh
07:52 <luke-jr_> heh
07:53 <GodTodd> lately he's into firemen tho
07:53 <GodTodd> lately he's into firemen tho
07:53 <luke-jr_> ...O.o
07:53 <luke-jr_> ...O.o
07:53 <luke-jr_> the kind that burn books?
07:53 <luke-jr_> the kind that burn books?
07:54 <GodTodd> nah...the conventional kind
07:54 <GodTodd> nah...the conventional kind
07:54 <luke-jr_> heh
07:54 <luke-jr_> heh
07:55 <GodTodd> trying to teach the value of a dollar so we took him shopping with his own money and he bought a set of six
07:55 <GodTodd> trying to teach the value of a dollar so we took him shopping with his own money and he bought a set of six
07:55 <GodTodd> heh
07:55 <GodTodd> heh
07:55 <luke-jr_> six what?
07:55 <luke-jr_> six what?
07:55 <GodTodd> firemen
07:55 <GodTodd> firemen
07:55 <luke-jr_> lol
07:55 <luke-jr_> lol
07:56 <luke-jr_> you should teach him how stupid people are, and give him a few silver coins to spend
07:56 <luke-jr_> you should teach him how stupid people are, and give him a few silver coins to spend
07:56 <luke-jr_> (real silver)
07:56 <luke-jr_> (real silver)
07:56 <GodTodd> heh
07:56 <GodTodd> heh
07:56 <luke-jr_> I highly doubt you'll find a store that takes them =p
07:56 <luke-jr_> I highly doubt you'll find a store that takes them =p
07:57 <luke-jr_> even though they have real value, and aren't just paper
07:57 <luke-jr_> even though they have real value, and aren't just paper
07:57 <GodTodd> yep
07:57 <GodTodd> yep
07:58 <luke-jr_> hm, that just made me think of a solution to student loans
07:58 <luke-jr_> hm, that just made me think of a solution to student loans
07:58 <luke-jr_> ask them for a location I can pay them off in cash ;)
07:58 <luke-jr_> ask them for a location I can pay them off in cash ;)
07:58 <luke-jr_> if they refuse, the debt loses its legality =p
07:58 <luke-jr_> if they refuse, the debt loses its legality =p
07:59 <GodTodd> and if they give you one?
07:59 <GodTodd> and if they give you one?
07:59 <GodTodd> :P
07:59 <GodTodd> :P
08:00 <mkzelda> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke
08:00 <mkzelda> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke
08:00 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: then you still need to pay it, I guess
08:00 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: then you still need to pay it, I guess
08:00 <mkzelda> "Icke has strongly denied that he is an anti-Semite, stressing that the Rothschilds are reptiles, not Jews."
08:00 <mkzelda> "Icke has strongly denied that he is an anti-Semite, stressing that the Rothschilds are reptiles, not Jews."
08:01 <mkzelda> heh, ima use that excuse for saying whatever I want
08:01 <mkzelda> heh, ima use that excuse for saying whatever I want
08:01 <mkzelda> "THEY'RE REPTILES!!!"
08:01 <mkzelda> "THEY'RE REPTILES!!!"
08:01 <mkzelda> luke-jr_ is a reptilian humanoid
08:01 <mkzelda> luke-jr_ is a reptilian humanoid
08:02 <luke-jr_> rofl
08:02 <luke-jr_> rofl
08:03 <GodTodd> i used to be a newt
08:03 <GodTodd> i used to be a newt
08:03 <GodTodd> but i got better :)
08:03 <GodTodd> but i got better :)
08:03 <luke-jr_> nothing wrong with being anti-Jew, but anti-semetic is just racist...
08:03 <luke-jr_> nothing wrong with being anti-Jew, but anti-semetic is just racist...
08:04 <mkzelda> only a true reptilian humanoid would say that
08:04 <mkzelda> only a true reptilian humanoid would say that
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism   <--- if wikipedia is to be believed, I am an existentialist, as I've long suspected :)
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism   <--- if wikipedia is to be believed, I am an existentialist, as I've long suspected :)
08:04 <luke-jr_> Wikipedia probably isn't to be believed
08:04 <luke-jr_> Wikipedia probably isn't to be believed
08:04 <luke-jr_> esp regarding religion
08:04 <luke-jr_> esp regarding religion
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> luckily for me, existentialism isn't a religion
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> luckily for me, existentialism isn't a religion
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> *phew*
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> *phew*
08:05 <luke-jr_> depends on the definition used for religion
08:05 <luke-jr_> depends on the definition used for religion
08:05 <luke-jr_> looks like a belief system, at least
08:05 <luke-jr_> looks like a belief system, at least
08:05 <mkzelda> depends on what your definition of is is
08:05 <mkzelda> depends on what your definition of is is
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> depends on what you mean by "definition"
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> depends on what you mean by "definition"
08:06 <luke-jr_> nah, 'religion' is one of those words with too many definitions
08:06 <luke-jr_> nah, 'religion' is one of those words with too many definitions
08:06 <luke-jr_> one which supports Luci and one which doesn't
08:06 <luke-jr_> one which supports Luci and one which doesn't
08:06 <GodTodd> depends on what you mean by "depends"
08:06 <GodTodd> depends on what you mean by "depends"
08:06 <mkzelda> what is the difference between an old pussy and a young pussy?
08:06 <mkzelda> what is the difference between an old pussy and a young pussy?
08:06 <GodTodd> depends
08:06 <GodTodd> depends
08:06 <mkzelda> haha
08:06 <mkzelda> haha
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, I define religion as "idiotic believe that some all-powerful person created the universe, unless he did it with a sneeze"
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, I define religion as "idiotic believe that some all-powerful person created the universe, unless he did it with a sneeze"
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you were in that english class with me senior year in high school, right?
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you were in that english class with me senior year in high school, right?
08:09 <GodTodd> possibly
08:09 <GodTodd> possibly
08:09 <GodTodd> heh
08:09 <GodTodd> heh
08:10 <mkzelda> what is funny about that Icke guy is the fact that the jews shut him down for saying that a small jewish clique runs the world
08:10 <mkzelda> what is funny about that Icke guy is the fact that the jews shut him down for saying that a small jewish clique runs the world
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> you remember having a big argument over existentialism?
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> you remember having a big argument over existentialism?
08:10 <GodTodd> yeah
08:10 <GodTodd> yeah
08:10 <mkzelda> which somewhat proves his point
08:10 <mkzelda> which somewhat proves his point
08:10 <mkzelda> heh
08:10 <mkzelda> heh
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> shut up mkzelda 
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> shut up mkzelda 
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:10 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: he's lucky they didn't kill him
08:10 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: he's lucky they didn't kill him
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> <---- not jewish
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> <---- not jewish
08:11 <luke-jr_> he must have lacked proof
08:11 <luke-jr_> he must have lacked proof
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, if he'd been saying catholics ran the world, they would've killed *and* eaten hiim
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, if he'd been saying catholics ran the world, they would've killed *and* eaten hiim
08:11 <GodTodd> don't forget the sodomy!
08:11 <GodTodd> don't forget the sodomy!
08:11 <GodTodd> heh
08:11 <GodTodd> heh
08:11 <mkzelda> haha
08:11 <mkzelda> haha
08:11 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma, I'm starting to think you're reptilian
08:11 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma, I'm starting to think you're reptilian
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> Remember Sodom!
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> Remember Sodom!
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> cold-blooded?
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> cold-blooded?
08:11 <luke-jr_> nah, if he said that then the few Catholics who found out would just think "I wish"
08:11 <luke-jr_> nah, if he said that then the few Catholics who found out would just think "I wish"
08:12 <mkzelda> I hear that reptiles will bounce if dropped from a considerable height
08:12 <mkzelda> I hear that reptiles will bounce if dropped from a considerable height
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> anything will
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> anything will
08:12 <luke-jr_> lol
08:12 <luke-jr_> lol
08:12 <mkzelda> reptiles dont burn either
08:12 <mkzelda> reptiles dont burn either
08:12 <mkzelda> so, we can put you in the fire
08:12 <mkzelda> so, we can put you in the fire
08:12 <luke-jr_> Is Saddam Hussein a US plant?
08:12 <luke-jr_> Is Saddam Hussein a US plant?
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> no, he's an Iraq plant
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> no, he's an Iraq plant
08:13 <GodTodd> i thought he was a dude....
08:13 <GodTodd> i thought he was a dude....
08:13 <mkzelda> he refused to enter his plea
08:13 <mkzelda> he refused to enter his plea
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> um, afaik, the CIA put him in his place in Iraq
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> um, afaik, the CIA put him in his place in Iraq
08:13 <mkzelda> convert or die
08:13 <mkzelda> convert or die
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> just like they trained Bin Laden and them
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> just like they trained Bin Laden and them
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> Today, we live in the CIA's toilet bowl
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> Today, we live in the CIA's toilet bowl
08:13 <mkzelda> i think your conversion was insincere
08:13 <mkzelda> i think your conversion was insincere
08:14 <mkzelda> die
08:14 <mkzelda> die
08:14 <luke-jr_> the CIA planting him is a known fact?
08:14 <luke-jr_> the CIA planting him is a known fact?
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> and if Bush should be remembered for doing anything worthwhile, let's try to remember him for castrating the CIA
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> and if Bush should be remembered for doing anything worthwhile, let's try to remember him for castrating the CIA
08:14 <luke-jr_> I, for one, am against the "war on terror"
08:14 <luke-jr_> I, for one, am against the "war on terror"
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> um, sure luke, the CIA planting him is a known fact.
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> um, sure luke, the CIA planting him is a known fact.
08:14 <mkzelda> the CIA manufactured crack and gave it to the black community
08:14 <mkzelda> the CIA manufactured crack and gave it to the black community
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> as sure as the Earth revolves around teh Sun, the CIA put Hussein in Iraq
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> as sure as the Earth revolves around teh Sun, the CIA put Hussein in Iraq
08:14 <mkzelda> luke-jr_, you must be a terrorist then
08:14 <mkzelda> luke-jr_, you must be a terrorist then
08:15 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: so not sure at all
08:15 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: so not sure at all
08:15 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: by Bush's definition, probably
08:15 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: by Bush's definition, probably
08:15 <mkzelda> :D
08:15 <mkzelda> :D
08:15 <GodTodd> the earth revolves around the sun? holy shit...you just blew my whole belief system :/
08:15 <GodTodd> the earth revolves around the sun? holy shit...you just blew my whole belief system :/
08:15 <GodTodd> heh
08:15 <GodTodd> heh
08:15 <mkzelda> if you disagree with the patriot act what does that make you?
08:15 <mkzelda> if you disagree with the patriot act what does that make you?
08:15 <luke-jr_> I heard the CIA planed Hussein from the X-Files, so I hadn't a clue if it was true =p
08:15 <luke-jr_> I heard the CIA planed Hussein from the X-Files, so I hadn't a clue if it was true =p
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> a patriot, ironically enough
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> a patriot, ironically enough
08:16 <mkzelda> i saw it on tv so it must be true
08:16 <mkzelda> i saw it on tv so it must be true
08:16 <luke-jr_> what if I disagree with the Patriot Act, but I don't want to be a patriot?
08:16 <luke-jr_> what if I disagree with the Patriot Act, but I don't want to be a patriot?
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> well why not?  You believe the Bible, why not believe the X-Files too?  Not much difference between them, except the X-Files occasionally cites a real fact.
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> well why not?  You believe the Bible, why not believe the X-Files too?  Not much difference between them, except the X-Files occasionally cites a real fact.
08:16 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: X-Files is fiction
08:16 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: X-Files is fiction
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> then watch out for our Patriots
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> then watch out for our Patriots
08:16 <mkzelda> catholics are getting birth control now?
08:16 <mkzelda> catholics are getting birth control now?
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's called the Spanish Inquisition, and they've had it for years
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's called the Spanish Inquisition, and they've had it for years
08:17 <luke-jr_> birth control is evil, and has always been condemned by the Church
08:17 <luke-jr_> birth control is evil, and has always been condemned by the Church
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> nobody expects it!
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> nobody expects it!
08:17 <mkzelda> arent they changing that stance though
08:17 <mkzelda> arent they changing that stance though
08:17 <luke-jr_> 1. Spanish Inquisition wasn't Catholic
08:17 <luke-jr_> 1. Spanish Inquisition wasn't Catholic
08:17 <mkzelda> i think they're in desperate need of more soldiers
08:17 <mkzelda> i think they're in desperate need of more soldiers
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> with that ultra-conservative as pope?
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> with that ultra-conservative as pope?
08:17 <luke-jr_> 2. Spanish Inquisiton only killed a three-digit number of people
08:17 <luke-jr_> 2. Spanish Inquisiton only killed a three-digit number of people
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> um, yeah, the Spanish Inquisition was Catholic
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> um, yeah, the Spanish Inquisition was Catholic
08:17 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: the Catholic Church does not change
08:17 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: the Catholic Church does not change
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> um, no, it killed millions of people throughout europe
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> um, no, it killed millions of people throughout europe
08:18 <mkzelda> hrm, thats crazy
08:18 <mkzelda> hrm, thats crazy
08:18 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: there is no Pope of the Catholic Church at this time
08:18 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: there is no Pope of the Catholic Church at this time
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> how many died in the 30 years war by itself?
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> how many died in the 30 years war by itself?
08:18 <mkzelda> most people learn to adapt to their surroundings
08:18 <mkzelda> most people learn to adapt to their surroundings
08:18 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: the Catholic Church is infallible, and only teaches the Truth
08:18 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: the Catholic Church is infallible, and only teaches the Truth
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> you make the mistake of thinking the catholic church has "people" in it
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> you make the mistake of thinking the catholic church has "people" in it
08:18 <mkzelda> how long was the 30 years war?
08:18 <mkzelda> how long was the 30 years war?
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> shorter than the 100-years war
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> shorter than the 100-years war
08:19 <luke-jr_> lol
08:19 <luke-jr_> lol
08:19 <mkzelda> luke-jr_, There is no spoon?
08:19 <mkzelda> luke-jr_, There is no spoon?
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, at the time the spanish inquisition was created, the King in most/all european countries ruled with the consent of the Church and was crowned by the pope or the pope's indicated officer
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, at the time the spanish inquisition was created, the King in most/all european countries ruled with the consent of the Church and was crowned by the pope or the pope's indicated officer
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> so when the king of spain created the Spanish Inquisition, it was considered an arm of the church, even if it was controlled by the throne
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> so when the king of spain created the Spanish Inquisition, it was considered an arm of the church, even if it was controlled by the throne
08:20 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: from what I hear, not only is there a spoon, but it is bigger than the ladle
08:20 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: from what I hear, not only is there a spoon, but it is bigger than the ladle
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> and is the shining example of why separation of church and state is a Good Idea
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> and is the shining example of why separation of church and state is a Good Idea
08:21 <mkzelda> Its convenient to create a doctrine that says its infallible
08:21 <mkzelda> Its convenient to create a doctrine that says its infallible
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> I might have a few details backwards, btw, but the underlying relationships should be the same :)
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> I might have a few details backwards, btw, but the underlying relationships should be the same :)
08:21 <luke-jr_> who wants to go turn the tables at CTWF?
08:21 <luke-jr_> who wants to go turn the tables at CTWF?
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: I've found it more convenient to assume fallibility
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: I've found it more convenient to assume fallibility
08:21 <GodTodd> The historian Hernando del Pulgar, contemporary of Ferdinand and Isabella, estimated that the Inquisition had burned at the stake 2,000 people and reconciled another 15,000 by 1490 (just one decade after the inquisition began).
08:21 <GodTodd> The historian Hernando del Pulgar, contemporary of Ferdinand and Isabella, estimated that the Inquisition had burned at the stake 2,000 people and reconciled another 15,000 by 1490 (just one decade after the inquisition began).
08:21 <mkzelda> I think I shall make such claims
08:21 <mkzelda> I think I shall make such claims
08:21 <GodTodd> dunno...any 3 digit numbers there?
08:21 <GodTodd> dunno...any 3 digit numbers there?
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> 1490?
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> 1490?
08:22 <mkzelda> if you disagree, you are wrong
08:22 <mkzelda> if you disagree, you are wrong
08:22 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: the protestants burned at the stake, not the inquisition
08:22 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: the protestants burned at the stake, not the inquisition
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, actually, since you put it that way, no
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, actually, since you put it that way, no
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> I see two numbers that are 1 and 2 significant digits, which is less than 3
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> I see two numbers that are 1 and 2 significant digits, which is less than 3
08:22 <GodTodd> heh
08:22 <GodTodd> heh
08:22 <GodTodd> :P
08:22 <GodTodd> :P
08:22 <luke-jr_> Imma play on CTWF for a bit
08:22 <luke-jr_> Imma play on CTWF for a bit
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> Hitler also only had killed no more than 3 significant digits in his camps
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> Hitler also only had killed no more than 3 significant digits in his camps
08:23 <GodTodd> yep
08:23 <GodTodd> yep
08:23 <mkzelda> i may join ya luke-jr_ 
08:23 <mkzelda> i may join ya luke-jr_ 
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08:23 <Lucifer_arma> "What has France ever done for the World?" to which Jean Girard responds, "We provided the world with Democracy, Existentialism, and the Menage-a-trois."
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> "What has France ever done for the World?" to which Jean Girard responds, "We provided the world with Democracy, Existentialism, and the Menage-a-trois."
08:23 <mkzelda> ill be something like ^-^^-^^-^
08:23 <mkzelda> ill be something like ^-^^-^^-^
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: started classes yet?
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: started classes yet?
08:24 <GodTodd> nope...monday
08:24 <GodTodd> nope...monday
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> ah.  yeah, me too
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> ah.  yeah, me too
08:24 <GodTodd> 270$ in books
08:24 <GodTodd> 270$ in books
08:24 <GodTodd> :/
08:24 <GodTodd> :/
08:24 <GodTodd> heh
08:24 <GodTodd> heh
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> damn college's site is down right now, I want to print my schedule
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> damn college's site is down right now, I want to print my schedule
08:25 <GodTodd> i did that a while back
08:25 <GodTodd> i did that a while back
08:25 <GodTodd> :)
08:25 <GodTodd> :)
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> well I'm approved for enough financial aid that finally I won't have to shell out any money for school, but it hasn't arrived yet, heh
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> well I'm approved for enough financial aid that finally I won't have to shell out any money for school, but it hasn't arrived yet, heh
08:25 <GodTodd> cccc's site is on a schedule...i don't understand that
08:25 <GodTodd> cccc's site is on a schedule...i don't understand that
08:25 <GodTodd> heh
08:25 <GodTodd> heh
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> so it'll be a reimbursement thing instead, I'll put out the cash and get reimbursed
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> so it'll be a reimbursement thing instead, I'll put out the cash and get reimbursed
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> now I just need to get enough financial aid that I can quit working and just go to school :/
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> now I just need to get enough financial aid that I can quit working and just go to school :/
08:26 <GodTodd> i haven't tried for loans and i won't qualify for free money :/
08:26 <GodTodd> i haven't tried for loans and i won't qualify for free money :/
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> some loans are part of your fafsa application
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> some loans are part of your fafsa application
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> and you probably won't qualify for much, but you should try anyway :)
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> and you probably won't qualify for much, but you should try anyway :)
08:26 <GodTodd> i didn't do a fafsa this time
08:26 <GodTodd> i didn't do a fafsa this time
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> having 2 kids might make a difference, depends what karen makes
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> having 2 kids might make a difference, depends what karen makes
08:27 <GodTodd> in the area of 75K
08:27 <GodTodd> in the area of 75K
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> fafsa is once a year, do it before APril, pretty much
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> fafsa is once a year, do it before APril, pretty much
08:27 <GodTodd> yeah i know
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> also depends on how many credit hours you intend to take
08:27 <GodTodd> yeah i know
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> also depends on how many credit hours you intend to take
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> I did mine late, did in in the middle of summer
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> I did mine late, did in in the middle of summer
08:28 <GodTodd> that i don't know yet for next semester....i'm taking ten this time around
08:28 <GodTodd> that i don't know yet for next semester....i'm taking ten this time around
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> probably why my pell grant is so much lower than it was before
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> probably why my pell grant is so much lower than it was before
08:28  * Lucifer_arma is taking 14 credit hours :)
08:28  * Lucifer_arma is taking 14 credit hours :)
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> I almost have enough to transfer to UT
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> I almost have enough to transfer to UT
08:28 <GodTodd> i'll probably be in that range next time
08:28 <GodTodd> i'll probably be in that range next time
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> 12 in the spring, 0 next summer, 11 next fall
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> 12 in the spring, 0 next summer, 11 next fall
08:29 <GodTodd> i got to start out as a freshman 12
08:29 <GodTodd> i got to start out as a freshman 12
08:30 <GodTodd> so i'll have 22 come xmastime
08:30 <GodTodd> so i'll have 22 come xmastime
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> so now that I qualify for the honors program, there aren't any honors classes left for me to take :/
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> so now that I qualify for the honors program, there aren't any honors classes left for me to take :/
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> but it's worth considering getting in it and taking comp 2, since they offer a sci-fi class :)
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> but it's worth considering getting in it and taking comp 2, since they offer a sci-fi class :)
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> then I can squeeze out literature before then....hmmmm...................................................
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> then I can squeeze out literature before then....hmmmm...................................................
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> definitely a consideration
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> definitely a consideration
08:35 <GodTodd> heh
08:35 <GodTodd> heh
08:40 <GodTodd> i wonder if i'll have to requalify for phi theta kappa
08:40 <GodTodd> i wonder if i'll have to requalify for phi theta kappa
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> you're a frat boy!?!?!?
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> you're a frat boy!?!?!?
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> I threw away the phi theta kappa spam I got
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> I threw away the phi theta kappa spam I got
08:55 <GodTodd> it's not a frat :P
08:55 <GodTodd> it's not a frat :P
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, it didn't strike me as being terribly useful and it had greek letters for a name.  How is that not a fraternity?
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, it didn't strike me as being terribly useful and it had greek letters for a name.  How is that not a fraternity?
09:00 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
09:00 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
09:01 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs
09:01 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs
09:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
09:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
09:04 <GodTodd> it's an honor society thingie
09:04 <GodTodd> it's an honor society thingie
09:04 <Vanhayes> #later tell wrtlprnft in #realchatlogs after Log opened Wed Aug 23 23:21:18 2006 in the log-2006-08-23.txt log every line is shown twice
09:04 <Vanhayes> #later tell wrtlprnft in #realchatlogs after Log opened Wed Aug 23 23:21:18 2006 in the log-2006-08-23.txt log every line is shown twice
09:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
09:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
09:05 <GodTodd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phi_Theta_Kappa
09:05 <GodTodd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phi_Theta_Kappa
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> it still looks mostly like ceremonial garb
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> it still looks mostly like ceremonial garb
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. nothing to it
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. nothing to it
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> the thing they sent me said I'd have to *do* something, and when I compared what I had to do against what I had to gain I determined it wasn't worth it for me to join
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> the thing they sent me said I'd have to *do* something, and when I compared what I had to do against what I had to gain I determined it wasn't worth it for me to join
09:13 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: o that's you =p
09:13 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: o that's you =p
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> you know, if I was 20 and had nothing to do it would be different, but I've got too much other shit going on to take on something that requires me to put out time and effort but gives nothing in return
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> you know, if I was 20 and had nothing to do it would be different, but I've got too much other shit going on to take on something that requires me to put out time and effort but gives nothing in return
09:14 <GodTodd> i never had to *do* anything
09:14 <GodTodd> i never had to *do* anything
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> since I don't intend to graduate from the community college, it only matters what it looks like on a transfer application :)
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> since I don't intend to graduate from the community college, it only matters what it looks like on a transfer application :)
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm looking at their website and it says regions aren't allowed to require anybody to *do* anything
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm looking at their website and it says regions aren't allowed to require anybody to *do* anything
09:15 <GodTodd> they suggest you *do* stuff but i said nope
09:15 <GodTodd> they suggest you *do* stuff but i said nope
09:15 <GodTodd> :)
09:15 <GodTodd> :)
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'll probably get another piece of spam this semester, I got the other one last fall
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'll probably get another piece of spam this semester, I got the other one last fall
09:15 <luke-jr_> if it doesn't do anything for you, why does it matter if you're required to do anything or not? still pointless to join
09:15 <luke-jr_> if it doesn't do anything for you, why does it matter if you're required to do anything or not? still pointless to join
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> because joining something like that says "I'm hot shit and I know it"
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> because joining something like that says "I'm hot shit and I know it"
09:16 <luke-jr_> or at least "I think I am"
09:16 <luke-jr_> or at least "I think I am"
09:16 <luke-jr_> which more often probably means they're not =p
09:16 <luke-jr_> which more often probably means they're not =p
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> no, not really
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> no, not really
09:16 <GodTodd> more like "an international society thinks i am"
09:16 <GodTodd> more like "an international society thinks i am"
09:16 <GodTodd> heh
09:16 <GodTodd> heh
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> see, they have requirements that says you have to prove you're hot shit to join :)
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> see, they have requirements that says you have to prove you're hot shit to join :)
09:16 <luke-jr_> oh
09:16 <luke-jr_> oh
09:17 <luke-jr_> so you need to do something =p
09:17 <luke-jr_> so you need to do something =p
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> now, we can argue all day long whether or not those requirements actually prove what they're supposed to prove
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> now, we can argue all day long whether or not those requirements actually prove what they're supposed to prove
09:17 <GodTodd> that's a pointless argument tho ;)
09:17 <GodTodd> that's a pointless argument tho ;)
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the entrance requirement is a GPA of 3.5 or higher, and you have to maintain 3.25 or higher or get kicked out
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the entrance requirement is a GPA of 3.5 or higher, and you have to maintain 3.25 or higher or get kicked out
09:17 <GodTodd> yep
09:17 <GodTodd> yep
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> now, I have 3.88 right now (I got a B in calc 2 :(  )
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> now, I have 3.88 right now (I got a B in calc 2 :(  )
09:18 <luke-jr_> but what if I'd rather maintain a GPA of pi?
09:18 <luke-jr_> but what if I'd rather maintain a GPA of pi?
09:18 <luke-jr_> =p
09:18 <luke-jr_> =p
09:18 <GodTodd> pretty much the best use i can think of is that it shows you kept decent grades
09:18 <GodTodd> pretty much the best use i can think of is that it shows you kept decent grades
09:18 <GodTodd> at a quick glance
09:18 <GodTodd> at a quick glance
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> maybe if I toss them some money and wear their silly bracelet or whatever, then people will just be even more confused when they see me on the first day of class :)
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> maybe if I toss them some money and wear their silly bracelet or whatever, then people will just be even more confused when they see me on the first day of class :)
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think I'll apply to the honors program at ACC, seriously, and take the sci-fi class :)
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think I'll apply to the honors program at ACC, seriously, and take the sci-fi class :)
09:19 <GodTodd> it's a key thingie...i have it on my baseball cap
09:19 <GodTodd> it's a key thingie...i have it on my baseball cap
09:19 <GodTodd> heh
09:19 <GodTodd> heh
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> I'll put it on my Indiana Jones hat :)
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> I'll put it on my Indiana Jones hat :)
09:19 <wrtlprnft_> lol
09:19 <wrtlprnft_> lol
09:19 <wrtlprnft> lol
09:19 <wrtlprnft> lol
09:19 <luke-jr_> ...
09:19 <luke-jr_> ...
09:19 <wrtlprnft> i forgot to close my 2nd IRSSI session
09:19 <wrtlprnft> i forgot to close my 2nd IRSSI session
09:20  * luke-jr_ tortures wrtlprnft with a hot iron
09:20  * luke-jr_ tortures wrtlprnft with a hot iron
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> damn catholic
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> damn catholic
09:20 <wrtlprnft> that's why all lines in the log come twice
09:20 <wrtlprnft> that's why all lines in the log come twice
--- Log closed Thu Aug 24 09:20:12 2006
09:20 -!- wrtlprnft_ [n=wrtlprnf@85.233.38.240] has quit ["wussed out and left"]
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> haha
09:20 <wrtlprnft> i was using it to test utf-8
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> wussed out and left?  you see that somewhere before?  ;)
09:20 <luke-jr_> utf8 with irssi?
09:20 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: fixed, i was online with two clients, hence the double lines
09:21 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: sure, why not?
09:21 <wrtlprnft> the terminal has to support it
09:21 <Vanhayes> heh nice, it was confusing
09:21  * wrtlprnft refuses to teach spidey anything
09:21 <luke-jr_> aww
09:21 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: how about you?
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> how about me?
09:22 <luke-jr_> teach spidey about DPI
09:22 <luke-jr_> he thinks its just a setting he can stick an arbitrary number in
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> the Double Penetration Interrogation method?
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> teaching is like sex.  You dont' do it to the unwilling.
09:23 <luke-jr_> I don't care how you teach him about Dots Per Inch
09:23 <luke-jr_>  * Checking /usr/share/fonts/100dpi for useless files ...                 [ ok ]
09:23 <luke-jr_> wtf
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> it found your pr0n collection
09:24 <luke-jr_> the non-existent one?
09:25  * wrtlprnft will only teach him that dpi is a dumb unit
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.txptk.org/  <--- another Drupal site
09:25 <luke-jr_> ...
09:26 <luke-jr_> DPI is a ratio, not a unit =p
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> so you'll teach hiim that DPI is just like meters?
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> so km/hour isn't a unit?
09:26 <luke-jr_> no, it's a ratio =p
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> "You see officer, mph isn't really a unit, therefore you can't give me a ticket"
09:26 <luke-jr_> lol
09:26 <wrtlprnft> x_X
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> units can be ratios, all a ratio is a relationship of a part to a whole
09:27 <arctanx> a mile is a unit, an hour is a unit, miles per hours is just a combination of them
09:27 <luke-jr_> ok luci, you'd know better on this one
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> it is the number of miles divided by the number of hours and is a rate of change
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> <luke-jr_> ok luci, you'd know better on this one  <--- does luke need to see a doctor????
09:28 <arctanx> rate of change of distance with respect to time eh ;)
09:28 <luke-jr_> just because you're wrong often doesn't mean you're always wrong
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> oh, it's wordpress, not drupal
09:29 <wrtlprnft> still, dpi is a dumb whatever as it is derived from inches
09:29 <wrtlprnft> and it's dumb to use on pixel- based screens as well
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> actually, it's wrong to use on pixel-based screens
09:29 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: a pixel is a dot on the screen
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> the correct unit on screens is PPI
09:30 <Vanhayes> #quote add "ok luci, you'd know better on this one" -- luke-jr
09:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
09:30 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: on screens, pixel=dot
09:30 <Vanhayes> bah
09:30 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: no
09:30 <luke-jr_> give an example where DPI isn't PPI =p
09:30 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: windows
09:30 <luke-jr_> Not only Windows disagrees with you, but X does too
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> if I counted my red, green, and blue dots separately
09:30 <GodTodd> When the Windows setting is used to increase the resolution from 96 DPI to 120 DPI, it is compensating for the smaller pixels, and therefore everything is larger. <----- nope, can't change it :P
09:31 <luke-jr_>   resolution:    103x110 dots per inch
09:31 <luke-jr_> (xdpyinfo)
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> just because they use it doesn't mean it's correct
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, look at those guys in europe using Kg to weigh people
09:33 <wrtlprnft> data:text/html,<p style="font-size:30pt">Hi there!</p><p style="30px">Hi there!</p>
09:33 <luke-jr_> hm, xorg-x11 7.1 was unmasked it seems?
09:33 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: what's wrong with that?
09:33 <luke-jr_> Kg is a dumb unit
09:34 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: as opposed to america where we just measure our narcotics that way ;)
09:34 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: pt is inch-based, you know
09:34 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: yeah
09:34 <wrtlprnft> then you can calculate its size
09:34 <wrtlprnft> #g 30pt in in
09:34 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
09:34 <wrtlprnft> #g 30 points in inch
09:34 <armabot> 30 PostScript points = 0.416666667 inch
09:34 <luke-jr_> 30/72
09:34 <luke-jr_> inches
09:35 <luke-jr_> #g 30/72
09:35 <armabot> 30 / 72 = 0.416666667
09:35 <wrtlprnft> same
09:35 <wrtlprnft> now you can measure it
09:35 <luke-jr_> yep
09:35 <luke-jr_> I already can measure it
09:35 <wrtlprnft> it probably won't fit exactly
09:35 <luke-jr_> ...
09:35 <luke-jr_> it will for me =p
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: you know why nobody knows what the mass unit in the imperial system is?
09:35 <wrtlprnft> i mean, take a ruler and hold it to your screen
09:35 <luke-jr_> I actually configured my X server
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> nobody knows it because it's useless :)
09:35 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: yes
09:35 <wrtlprnft> nope
09:36 <luke-jr_> ...
09:36 <wrtlprnft> #g 0.416666667 inch in cm
09:36 <armabot> 0.416666667 inch = 1.05833333 centimeters
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1 kilogram in pound
09:36 <armabot> 1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pound
09:37 <luke-jr_> #g 72 points in inches
09:37  * Lucifer_arma wishes he remembered the mass unit in the imperial system, we talked about it in calc 2.
09:37 <armabot> 72 PostScript points = 1 inches
09:37 <wrtlprnft> on my screen 30pt are 0.8cm
09:37 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: then your X server is misconfigured
09:37 <wrtlprnft> size units just don't make any sense on screens
09:38 <wrtlprnft> pixel- based screens that is
09:38 <luke-jr_> sure they do
09:38 <GodTodd> http://www.exeter.ac.uk/cimt/dictunit/dictunit.htm#UK
09:38 <luke-jr_> pixel units don't make sense because they vary in size
09:38 <wrtlprnft> size as in length
09:38 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: which is a good thing
09:38 <luke-jr_> in Section "Monitor", you need to set DisplaySize <width> <height>
09:38 <luke-jr_> no
09:38 <wrtlprnft> what's <width>?
09:39 <luke-jr_> viewable display width in millimetres
09:39 <wrtlprnft> metres, centimetres, millimetres, decimetres, kilometres, ...?
09:39 <wrtlprnft> ah
09:39 <luke-jr_> when DisplaySize is present, X will calculate the correct DPI
09:39 <luke-jr_> in my case, 103x110
09:39 <luke-jr_> apparently I have non-square pixels =p
09:40 <GodTodd> well..opposites attract ;)
09:40 <luke-jr_> ...
09:40 <luke-jr_> true, but I don't see the application O.o
09:40 <GodTodd> look up...or you'll miss it
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> I don't get why SI units are supposed to be better than imperial units.  It's just one arbitrary system vs another.
09:41 <wrtlprnft> well, i need to restart my x11 anyways
09:41 <luke-jr_> who said anything about opposites?
09:41 <GodTodd> i did
09:41 <GodTodd> duh
09:41 <wrtlprnft> as i just changed my locale
09:41 <luke-jr_> so measure your monitor's viewing area first
09:41 <luke-jr_> so your DPI is corrected
09:41 <wrtlprnft> did
09:41 <luke-jr_> then adjust all your font sizes to what you *really* want =p
09:42 <wrtlprnft>  60     DisplaySize  285 214
09:42 <wrtlprnft> font sizes should be in pixels.
09:42 <luke-jr_> nothing should be in pixels
09:42 <wrtlprnft> blah
09:42 <luke-jr_> pixels are just a technicality that nobody should need to mess with =p
09:42 <wrtlprnft> in your world.
09:42 <arctanx> Lucifer_arma: if I'm writing a program I'd prefer to take someone's height in metres than feet/inches ;)
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd like to be able to set a scale.  I like big things
09:43 <wrtlprnft> i'm mostly doing this for things like oo.org
09:43 <luke-jr_> yes, but a scale is a scale =p
09:43 <wrtlprnft> then i can have a 1:1 preview :P
09:43 <luke-jr_> scales work best in percentages, IMO
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> arctanx: I'll admit having a decimal system is useful when programming, but you still have to do conversions to presentable units
09:43 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: actually, how does X11 know that all my pixels are the same size?
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> so you make your internal atomic unit one thing and convert input to it, convert from it to something presentable
09:44 <arctanx> a base 10 system and with the notable exception of the kilogram, indisputable values for the units are the main features of SI
09:44 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: that's a basic assumption any platform makes
09:44 <luke-jr_> arctanx: base 10 sucks
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> you just have to base your internal system on that unit is all, and even then the choice is still arbitrary
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing I find really annoying is that gallons and tons are different sizes in US vs UK
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> if they're not the same size, they shouldn't have the same name!
09:45 <luke-jr_> gallon is part of a binary measuring system
09:45 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: what sucks about base 10?
09:45 <wrtlprnft> easy to calculate with
09:46 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: not at all
09:46 <GodTodd> it's not in the bible
09:46 <GodTodd> heh
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> it's only easy to calculate with because that's how you've learned it
09:46 <wrtlprnft> i can convert millimetres to metres on a glance
09:46 <luke-jr_> base 2, 6, and 16 are easier
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> if you had been raised to do math with base 6, you'd think that was easier
09:46 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: you can do that with a base 16 unit too
09:46 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: well, if you write it in base 16
09:46 <luke-jr_> 0x1000 / 0x10 = 0x100
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> so?  So it's a system of units that are all based on the same arbitrary base
09:46 <luke-jr_> no reason not to
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> I can convert inches to feet and back on a glance
09:47  * luke-jr_ uses base 6 when counting on his fingers
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> feet are more useful because 1 foot is divisble by 2, 3, 4, and 6 inches
09:47 <wrtlprnft> anyways, the "H" in "Hi there!" is still only 8 millimetres high
09:49 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: one metre is divisible into 2, 4, 8, 5, 25, 125. 10, 50, 150, 20, 100, 500 millimetres
09:49  * wrtlprnft wonders why you guys love percentages so much
09:49 <Lucifer_arma> 1 millimeter is too small to be useful for daily use
09:49 <wrtlprnft> why don't you have something where 360% = 1
09:50 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: really?
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> really.  I never measure anything that small
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> not even my dick!
09:50  * wrtlprnft looks at his pen. it has the size of its tip printed on it in millimetres
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but I don't measure it, I write with it.
09:51 <wrtlprnft> and for anything big it's still useful to have millimetres around
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> I only care about the lead sizes in my pencils because I need to buy replacements
09:51 <wrtlprnft> there ya go
09:51 <wrtlprnft> it's in mm here too
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> when I was cutting rotors and drums in the brake shop, we measured in thousandths of an inch
09:52 <wrtlprnft> wouldn't it be way more handy to measure it in 12^(-3) of an inch?
09:52 <wrtlprnft> #g 12^3
09:52 <armabot> 12^3 = 1,728
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> no, because you're dealing with sizes that are for the most part too small to distinguish without something to help you
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> and that something is a fairly expensive precision measuring device, which you'd need no matter what units you were using
09:53 <wrtlprnft> #g .001 inch in mm
09:53 <armabot> .001 inch = 0.0254 millimeters
09:54 <wrtlprnft> i have something that can measure to that precision
09:54 <wrtlprnft> not that expensive
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but it's not your eyes, is it?
09:54 <wrtlprnft> no
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> my eyes can measure 1 inch accurately enough for most of my daily needs
09:54 <wrtlprnft> i don't measure anything with my eyes
09:54 <wrtlprnft> then i don't measure it at all
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> you never take an eyeball measurement?
09:54 <wrtlprnft> if i do i don't have any units for it
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> you never look and say "looks like I need about <some amount> of rope"
09:55 <wrtlprnft> no
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> or "I need <some amount> of cat-5"
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> then go to the store and buy it?
09:55 <wrtlprnft> i take a measuring tape and know i need *exactly* that much
09:55 <wrtlprnft> then i'm sure i have the right amount
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> there's not usually any "exactly" about it, it's always "I need at least this much to cover <this area>, then probably a couple of extra feet to deal with <some other thing that can't be reasonably measured>"
09:56 <wrtlprnft> yeah, well
09:56 <wrtlprnft> if it's like that i can do that in metres too
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, no doubt that if I grew up in such an environment, I'd agree, but I'm quite competent with imperial units and besides arithmetic, I don't see what makes SI better
09:58 <wrtlprnft> it's used by about everyone but americans?
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, I find a foot to be a very useful measurement.  In fact, both feet and inches can be easily measured without any special tools to an acceptable level of accuracy for daily use
09:59 <wrtlprnft> umm, i can measure metres no problem
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> "everybody's doing it" is *not* a reason for me to do something
09:59 <wrtlprnft> an a centimetre is about the width of my thumb
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, I can easily pace off feet
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> an an inch is about the length of the top two parts of my middle finger
10:00 <wrtlprnft> from the tip of my thumb to the tip of my small finger it's 20cm
10:00 <wrtlprnft> if i spread my hand, that is
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't object to switching over to SI units in the US, to be honest.  I object to the snobbery some of you people throw about SI units.
10:01 <wrtlprnft> :P
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't want to lose a foot as a measurement, though, because it's so damn useful.
10:02 <wrtlprnft> well, first of all, the modern definition of a yard is a fraction of a metre
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, those definitions came into place during WWII when it was necessary to make some sense out of the differences in units, or so I hear
10:03 <wrtlprnft> err
10:03 <wrtlprnft> The international yard is equal to 0.9144 metres. The definition of the international yard was agreed by the United States and the countries of the Commonwealth of Nations in 1958.
10:03 <wrtlprnft> wikipedia
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> the US and UK had to straighten out their differences
10:03 <wrtlprnft> 1958 isn't WWII
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> <Lucifer_arma> yeah, those definitions came into place during WWII when it was necessary to make some sense out of the differences in units, ***or so I hear***
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> and just because the agreement was reached in 1958 doesn't mean the problem wasn't found in 1941
10:05  * wrtlprnft thinks they should have decided to make one yard exactly one metre
10:05  * Lucifer_arma notes that a US/UK agreement could have been reached in 1942 in order to bomb the hell out of germany which still would have required the rest of the commonwealth to agree to it, and that could have easily taken ~20 years to work out
10:06 <wrtlprnft> that's kinda slow
10:06  * Lucifer_arma agrees they should have made 1 yard exactly one meter, and that they should have gone ahead and stretch a foot and stuff
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> not for measurements
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> SI hasn't been in use since the beginning of time, it took time for it to be adopted
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> even in France, and it was invented there :)
10:07 <GodTodd> in 1799
10:07 <wrtlprnft> well, of course, if you define a yard to be 1 metre, then a foot would be 3^(-1)m
10:07 <GodTodd> but it took a while to find a meter because of the official definition
10:07 <GodTodd> The unit of length was the metre which was defined as being one ten-millionth part of a quarter of the earth's circumference. 
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> in 1799?  and Jules Vernes, a frenchman, was writing with english units in the late 1800s?
10:07 <wrtlprnft> GodTodd: that was a while ago
10:08 <GodTodd> ummm yeah....200 years give or take
10:08 <GodTodd> that's a bit
10:08 <wrtlprnft> then they had some metal stick in france that was defined to be exactly one metre
10:08 <wrtlprnft> and then they decided to base it on the speed of light in vacuum
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> so they kept changing it?
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:08 <GodTodd> yep
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I understand why they kept changing it.  :)
10:08 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: well, as physics advanced you needed a more accurate definition
10:09 <wrtlprnft> 200 years ago they didn't have a good measure of the speed of light
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you need something to calibrate your metering tools
10:09 <wrtlprnft> though there's still a master kilogram piece somewhere in france
10:10 <GodTodd> but then...that is arbitrarily agreed upon as a kg
10:10 <GodTodd> how do we know it really is?
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> those master thingees are probably all still kicking around, just not used anymore
10:10 <wrtlprnft> well, one kilogram = about the mass of 1m^3 water
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> seawater?
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> river water?
10:11 <GodTodd> and how do we know that the meter is correctly defined?
10:11 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: the master kg is still the official definition
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> really?
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> hope they didn't use anything radioactive when they built it
10:11 <wrtlprnft> haha
10:11 <GodTodd> heh....we can take down all of europe
10:11 <GodTodd> shave a bit off the master kg piece
10:11 <GodTodd> :)
10:12 <wrtlprnft> The kilogram was originally defined as the mass of one litre of pure water at standard atmospheric pressure and at the temperature at which water has its maximum density (3.98 degrees Celsius).
10:12 <GodTodd> throw all weights and measures into chaos
10:12 <wrtlprnft> Since 1889, the SI system defines the unit to be equal to the mass of the international prototype of the kilogram, which is made from an alloy of platinum and iridium of 39 mm height and diameter, and is kept at the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures
10:12 <GodTodd> ok...so show me the liter is defined correctly :)
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> why not define it as a frozen piece of pure water?  heh
10:12 <GodTodd> i could go on like this for hours :)
10:12 <wrtlprnft> GodTodd: litre is defined by metres
10:12 <wrtlprnft> and metres are defined by the speed of light and seconds
10:12 <GodTodd> and i've already called meters into question
10:13 <wrtlprnft> and seconds are defined by themselves
10:13 <GodTodd> and the validity of the measure of seconds?
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> basically, the difference between SI and imperial is that SI is built to be internally consistent, and imperial is built to be widely practical
10:13 <wrtlprnft> Under the International System of Units, the second is currently defined as the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom. This definition refers to a caesium atom at rest at a temperature of 0 K.
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> what we use here in the US has evolved over a long period of time dating all the way back to the ROman empire
10:13 <GodTodd> and the validity of temperature measurements?
10:14 <GodTodd> :)
10:14 <wrtlprnft> GodTodd: 0K is the absolute 0
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> I've been wondering every since I learned the laws of refrigeration how you can use the changing state of water to define temperature
10:14 <wrtlprnft> doesn't need to have a unit
10:14 <GodTodd> and 'at rest' implies speed (or lack of) so what's the validity of speed measurements?
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> actually it's the absense of heat/energy
10:15  * Lucifer_arma starts his physics class Monday :)
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> *first physics class
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> the algebra-based one, that is
10:16 <GodTodd> all i'm saying is its all pretty arbitrary....some dudes a long time ago decided we should measure shit a certain way and we've been fixing it ever since ;)
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> they're both arbitrary systems, that's the point.  :)
10:16 <GodTodd> yep
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> all's I'm saying is that feet and inches are useful measurements of distance, even if the conversions look silly
10:17 <GodTodd> si is no more valid than the correct one :)
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> I do think teaspoons/tablespoons are pretty silly, but their still useful increments
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> *they're
10:18 <GodTodd> anyway...
10:18 <GodTodd> #night
10:18 <armabot> Good night GodTodd!
10:19 <Vanhayes> hmm why is there a lod bugfarm?
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> they want to find bugs in arma?
10:20 <wrtlprnft> probably not
10:20 <Vanhayes> I used the bug call but  I m not expecting it to be noticed
10:20 <wrtlprnft> z-man should make bugfarm a trademark :P
10:21 <Vanhayes> probly just trying to steal some of the popularity of it
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> what do you expect from clanboys anyway?
10:21 <wrtlprnft> no good servers in use right now :s
10:22 <wrtlprnft> ctwf is empty, 4team fortress too, and my servers as well
10:22 <wrtlprnft> and i won't go on a lod server that claims to be bugfarm
10:23  * wrtlprnft almost expects to see a ŁØÐ|z-man on it
10:23 <wrtlprnft> fake of course
10:24 <Vanhayes> heh
10:24  * Vanhayes is tempted
10:24 <wrtlprnft> i wonder if they would kick him if he joined under that name
10:24 <wrtlprnft> "you're not in our clan, get rid of the tag or never play arma again"
10:25 <Vanhayes> hmm actually if they can steal a name I can steal their tags right?
10:25 <wrtlprnft> exactly
10:27 <wrtlprnft> --> sucks <-- renamed to ŁØÐ|sucks.
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10:40 <Vanhayes> ugh wild west sumo (bugfarm)
10:40 <Vanhayes> another one
11:09  * Lucifer_arma smiles
11:09 <wrtlprnft> ?
11:09 <Lucifer_arma> I can be an Aggie and get the degree I want.  That'll really irritate my in-laws
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> UT vs TA&M is a somewhat famous rivalry
11:50 <Lucifer_arma> Holy shit.  Bjarne Stroustroup works at Texas A&M!
11:51 <Lucifer_arma> apparently I'm going to have to take Texas A&M a bit more seriously
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11:54 <spidey> skjdfskdjfh
11:58 <spidey> bah
11:58 <spidey> my cmos is going bad
12:11 <spidey> hmm
12:11 <spidey> i haven't been to the homeschool place in a month
12:11 <spidey> :s
12:11 <spidey> not sure if i'm even in it still  :/
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12:50 <spidey> #last --nolimit
12:51 <armabot> spidey: [12:11:16] <spidey> not sure if i'm even in it still  :/, [12:11:02] <spidey> :s, [12:11:01] <spidey> i haven't been to the homeschool place in a month, [12:10:50] <spidey> hmm, [11:58:42] <spidey> my cmos is going bad, [11:58:35] <spidey> bah, [11:53:47] <spidey> skjdfskdjfh, [11:51:24] <Lucifer_arma> apparently I'm going to have to take Texas A&M a bit more seriously, [11:49:54] <Lucifer_arma> Holy shit. (50 more messages)
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13:12 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs
13:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
13:35 <deja_vu_> spidey: 
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14:01 <spidey> great
14:01 <spidey> got some of the stupid fucks who can't even fix there services guys from my isp coming out to install voip
14:01 <spidey> my grandma really doesn't listen to me -_-
14:02 <spidey> oh well, i'm dropping charter and switching in a few days -_-
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14:14 <spidey> #last --nolimit
14:14 <armabot> spidey: [14:02:17] <spidey> oh well, i'm dropping charter and switching in a few days -_-, [14:01:45] <spidey> my grandma really doesn't listen to me -_-, [14:01:21] <spidey> got some of the stupid fucks who can't even fix there services guys from my isp coming out to install voip, [14:00:58] <spidey> great, [13:35:32] <deja_vu_> spidey:, [13:12:42] <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs, [12:50:39] <spidey> #last --nolimit, (50 more messages)
14:14 <Vanhayes> wow that was pointless
14:14 <wrtlprnft_> ?
14:15 <Vanhayes> they #last
14:15 <spidey> no?
14:15 <spidey> i had to reboot
14:15 <Vanhayes> ryes?
14:15 <spidey> -_-
14:15 <spidey> no...
14:15 <Vanhayes> but all it showed is what you just said
14:15 <spidey> duh
14:15 <spidey> it's bnc
14:16 <spidey> even when i'm not online my name will still be in here
14:16 <wrtlprnft_> but you don't keep logs?
14:16 <wrtlprnft_> that's useless
14:16 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
14:16 <Vanhayes> yes but you cant say anything and since you said something you were here
14:16 <spidey> mkzelda, hasn't told me how to log yet :p
14:16 <Vanhayes> and all that did was repeat what you just said
14:16 <spidey> besides i'd have to ssh to view logs
14:17 <spidey> that's alot of work :p
14:17 <wrtlprnft> so if i wake you you won't even read it
14:17  * wrtlprnft won't talk to spidey anymore.
14:17 <spidey> Vanhayes, shut it, i was seeing if anyone said anything after i left
14:17 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs --- much better
14:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
14:17 <wrtlprnft> lol
14:18 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: if they don't happen to print every line twice ;)
14:18 <Vanhayes> well yes
14:18 <spidey> then i'd have to open a webbroser yadayada
14:18 <Vanhayes> and if thry actually write anything down at all
14:18 <spidey> ...#last --nolimit is much better for a short log
14:18 <spidey> :)
14:19 <Vanhayes> spidey: are you using x-chat2?
14:19 <spidey> what's that got to do with anything?
14:19 <Vanhayes> cause all you have to do to keep a log is click a buttom
14:19 <Vanhayes> button*
14:19 <spidey> um
14:19 <spidey> dude
14:19 <spidey> the point is i WASN'T connect
14:19 <spidey> i can't view logs when my client is connected now can i?
14:20 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft_> but you don't keep logs?
14:20 <Vanhayes> <spidey> mkzelda, hasn't told me how to log yet :p
14:20 <spidey> ....
14:20 <spidey> that's for the bnc
14:20 <spidey> NOT MY CLIENT
14:20 <spidey> god
14:20 <Vanhayes> I LIKE CAPS TOO
14:20 <wrtlprnft> what's the point of bnc if you can't read what's happening?
14:21 <spidey> i can, just haven't bothered -_-
14:21 <wrtlprnft> then you might as well log out of IRC
14:21 <wrtlprnft> out of freenode
14:21 <wrtlprnft> and screw bnc or whatever
14:21 <spidey> no
14:21 <Vanhayes> anyway my point was that when you did #last --nolimit that time it was completely pointless
14:21 <wrtlprnft> get an ssh account and run irssi in a screen.
14:21 <spidey> because it's more simple to just connect to the bnc and be here
14:21 <wrtlprnft> ?
14:21 <spidey> instead of connecting
14:21 <wrtlprnft> what's simple about that
14:21 <spidey> identifing
14:21 <spidey> simple 
14:22 <wrtlprnft> get your IRC client to identify for you
14:22 <spidey> .../server venture.quadspeedi.net 65000
14:22 <wrtlprnft> mine does
14:22 <spidey> then i'm in this room
14:22 <wrtlprnft> well
14:22 <wrtlprnft> i'm in this room before i login
14:22 <spidey> so am i :)
14:22 <wrtlprnft> and if i start irssi manually it automatically puts me in here
14:23 <spidey> why does everyone bitch about what i do?
14:23 <Vanhayes> mine does that too and identifys me at the same time
14:23 <wrtlprnft> and i will see my hilights unless i timed out and someone wrote them while i was already gone
14:23  * Vanhayes bitches at spidey
14:23 <spidey> it's my shell i'll run what  i want on it
14:23 <spidey> -_-
14:23  * wrtlprnft bitches at soidey because it's fun
14:23 <Vanhayes> spidey: people bitch at you because luke-jr_ isnt here right now
14:23 <wrtlprnft> well, zombies are annoying
14:23 <wrtlprnft> you don't know if the person will actually see what you write, it's annoying
14:24  * Vanhayes pokes luke-jr_ 
14:24 <wrtlprnft> "bnc is nonstandard"
14:24 <wrtlprnft> that's what you'll hear from luke-jr_ 
14:24 <spidey> psh
14:24 <wrtlprnft> or, "bnc is a hack", which it is
14:24 <spidey> "luke_jr_ is nonstandard"
14:24 <spidey> no it's not
14:24 <spidey> bnc is a keep alive proxy
14:25 <wrtlprnft> what's the use?
14:25 <spidey> well
14:25 <wrtlprnft> get a good IRC client and screw bnc
14:25 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg bnc
14:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: B.N.C.: Biomechanical Networked Construct
14:25 <spidey> you're all like luke-jr_ , just because you think it's GOOD doesn't mean it is
14:25 <spidey> we all have different needs, and wants
14:25 <spidey> mine's bnc
14:25 <spidey> now leave me alone
14:26  * wrtlprnft has a need to keep annoying spidey 
14:26 <Vanhayes> well since all we have to go on is what we think good=good to anyone who thinks something is good
14:26 <Vanhayes> #quote add "ok luci, you'd know better on this one" -- luke-jr
14:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
14:26 <Vanhayes> bah
14:26 <wrtlprnft> #quote add "ok luci, you'd know better on this one" -- luke-jr
14:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.  Quote #20 added.
14:26 <Vanhayes> heh nice
14:27 <Vanhayes> #quote get 18
14:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other noobs. -wrtlprnft" (added by Vanhayes at 05:23 AM, June 21, 2006)
14:27 <Vanhayes> #quote get 19
14:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
14:27 <wrtlprnft> #q
14:27 <spidey> #q 17
14:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Quote #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on the ceiling, gore all over. Tell me, would you really suspect that worm making a run for it toward the door at 5 cm per minute? No you would not! - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 08:09 PM, April 25, 2006)
14:27 <armabot> spidey: Quote #9: "he eats a bowl of wheat stocks and small pebbles -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:28 PM, March 29, 2006)
14:27 <Vanhayes> lol
14:27 <spidey> #quate get 17
14:27 <Vanhayes> ahaha
14:27 <spidey> #quote get 17
14:27 <spidey> !
14:27 <armabot> spidey: Quote #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate Vanhayes. --featherfcuk" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:02 AM, June 14, 2006)
14:27  * wrtlprnft gets a quate for spidey 
14:28 <Vanhayes> #dict quate
14:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "quate" could be found.
14:28 <wrtlprnft> #google spell quate
14:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: quote
14:28 <wrtlprnft> #wikipedia quate
14:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.18 seconds: Calvin Quate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Quate>; List of numbers in various languages - Wikipedia, the free ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_various_languages>; Psychodidae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychodidae>; Quatre-Vallées - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
14:28 <Vanhayes> hmm why did I think quate was a real word?
14:28 <wrtlprnft> it is
14:28 <wrtlprnft> it's "four" in aranese
14:29 <wrtlprnft> and gascon
14:29 <wrtlprnft> and norman
14:29 <wrtlprnft> not that i knew any of these languages
14:30 <wrtlprnft> it's hard to find a combination of 5 letters that doesn't have a wikipedia entry
14:30 <Vanhayes> i dont think ive heard of any of them before beside norman
14:30 <wrtlprnft> well, except things like aaaaa
14:30 <spidey> #wikipedia wekf4
14:30 <armabot> spidey: No matches found. (Search took 0.29 seconds)
14:30 <wrtlprnft> spidey: letters
14:30 <Vanhayes> #wikipedia ekhfs
14:30 <wrtlprnft> spidey: 4 is not a letter
14:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: No matches found. (Search took 0.31 seconds)
14:30 <wrtlprnft> well, maybe it isn't
14:30 <Vanhayes> #wikipedia slaks
14:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: No matches found. (Search took 0.47 seconds)
14:30 <wrtlprnft> try 4 letters
14:31 <spidey> four is a letter
14:31 <wrtlprnft> #wikipedia khtc
14:31 <Vanhayes> #wikipedia dksl
14:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.23 seconds: KMXP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMXP>; Kumho - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumho>; High school radio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_school_radio>; Kumho - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumho_Group>
14:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: No matches found. (Search took 0.26 seconds)
14:31 <wrtlprnft> spidey: 4 is a number
14:31 <spidey> four is letters
14:31 <Vanhayes> how is 4 a letter?
14:31 <Vanhayes> <spidey> four is a letter
14:31 <wrtlprnft> well, screw wikipedia. it isn't mature enough yet ;)
14:31 <spidey> -_-
14:31 <Vanhayes> lol
14:32 <spidey> i know what i'ma do
14:32 <Vanhayes> give me money?
14:32 <spidey> i'ma go find those guys i normally play freeciv with, wait till they get good and built up
14:32 <spidey> then cause global warming
14:32 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_(alphabet)
14:33 <wrtlprnft> spidey: what about some nuclear winter too?
14:33 <spidey> maybe
14:33 <spidey> drop about 7 nukes and it should be good
14:34 <spidey> noone in pregame
14:34 <spidey> so i'ma play local
14:34 <wrtlprnft> play without AIs, it's fun
14:34 <spidey> ...
14:34 <Vanhayes> ha
14:34 <wrtlprnft> reaching alpha centauri in like 500AD
14:35 <spidey> ....
14:35 <Vanhayes> well I made a bunch of worklists yesturday so now my turns shouldnt take that long
14:35 <Vanhayes> not that mine were that long but still time is time
14:35 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: you there?
14:58 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: hope he's not like spidey and uses a non-logging proxy
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15:08 <madmax|pt> hello
15:15 <spidey> it's max!
15:18 <madmax|pt> yea, im alive
15:19 <madmax|pt> :D
16:07 <spidey> you sure?
18:37 <madmax|pt> No.
19:05 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: BNC is like VNC =p
19:05 <luke-jr_> or a disconnectable X server
19:06 <luke-jr_> it has a use when you don't want to leave your IRC client running all the time, or want to check IRC from a remote location
19:15 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: yeah, i know what it does
19:16 <wrtlprnft> but if you don't keep logs, why not just log in and out directly
19:16 <wrtlprnft> ?
19:25 <luke-jr_> no scrollback?
19:26 <wrtlprnft> apparently not
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19:51 <spidey> lmfao
19:52 <spidey> dumb and dumberer is halarious
19:52 <spidey> ;x
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20:28 <spidey> heh
20:28 <spidey> about like my isp. they forgot to come install the voip and stuff -_-
20:30 <luke-jr_> you can't do that yourself?
20:30 <luke-jr_> btw, if you're getting voip, be sure they don't give you locked crap
20:31 <spidey> well i could 
20:31 <spidey> but i want them here
20:31 <spidey> so i can bitch about the shitty internet and they won't say no to fixing it :)
20:32 <spidey> $56 a month for something that's quality is less than dsl
20:32 <luke-jr_> expensive
20:32 <luke-jr_> =p
20:32 <luke-jr_> do you have cable TV?
20:32 <spidey> hell, i'd rather have a 200 or so ping steady rather than a one that's 60 one minute then 200+ the next
20:32 <spidey> no
20:32 <spidey> i have sat.
20:32 <spidey> dish ;x
20:32 <luke-jr_> ask how much the total is if you add basic cable TV
20:32 <luke-jr_> sometimes it's less
20:32 <spidey> fuck that
20:33 <spidey> fuck them too
20:33 <luke-jr_> I didn't say use it
20:33 <DrJoeTron> i pay $15 for dsl
20:33 <spidey> when bellsouth is in my area next month i'm switching
20:33 <luke-jr_> sometimes they charge extra for no-TV
20:33 <luke-jr_> so, internet+TV = $40 but internet only is $50
20:33 <spidey> DrJoeTron,  i'll pay $47 or so for a 6mbit :)
20:33 <DrJoeTron> sweet deal
20:34 <spidey> bellsouth
20:34 <DrJoeTron> mines 2mbit
20:34 <spidey> O.o
20:34 <DrJoeTron> we talked them down
20:34 <spidey> heh
20:34 <DrJoeTron> threatening to leave is great
20:34 <spidey> i'm not gonna bitch about $47 for 6mbit :p
20:34 <spidey> DrJoeTron,  i tried that
20:34 <DrJoeTron> they sort of owed us
20:34 <wrtlprnft> i pay 40€ for 16MBit
20:34 <spidey> only charter's the only highspeed cable provider in my area
20:34 <DrJoeTron> considering they fucked us over
20:34 <spidey> untill september
20:34 <spidey> then i'm switching
20:34 <spidey> -_-
20:35 <DrJoeTron> wow thats like..43 USD?
20:35 <spidey> wrtlprnft,  places out side of the us don't count :p
20:35 <wrtlprnft> #g EUR 40 in usd
20:35 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
20:35 <spidey> u.s has shitty internet
20:35 <spidey> it's a known fact :p
20:35 <wrtlprnft> #g 40 euros in USD
20:35 <armabot> 40 Euros = 51.38800 U.S. dollars
20:35 <DrJoeTron> haha, that means its free here
20:35 <DrJoeTron> damn
20:35 <DrJoeTron> wow i didnt know our inflation was so high
20:35 <wrtlprnft> not that i really have a use for 16MBit
20:35 <DrJoeTron> my god thats sad
20:36 <spidey> wrtlprnft,  i do, lemme have it
20:36 <wrtlprnft> but the .8MBit upstream is nice :)
20:36 <spidey> :o
20:36 <spidey> .8?
20:36 <spidey> that's it :p
20:36 <spidey> well
20:37 <spidey> when verizon gets here i'll be getting 15mbit down and 2mbit up
20:37 <spidey> for now i'ma have to deal with dsl or  cable
20:37 <spidey> i'll take dsl cause the cable sucks ass
20:37 <wrtlprnft> maybe i'll try to contact them at some point to see if i can get 4mbit down, 2mbit up for the same price
20:38 <DrJoeTron> see
20:38 <spidey> http://www22.verizon.com/FiosForHome/channels/fios/root/package.asp
20:38 <spidey> when they do get here
20:38 <spidey> and i do get a job
20:39 <spidey> i'ma get the 30mbit down and 5mbit up
20:39 <spidey> $199 month
20:39 <wrtlprnft> omg
20:39 <wrtlprnft> what a waste
20:39 <spidey> not really
20:39 <DrJoeTron> thats a waste
20:39 <spidey> well
20:39 <spidey> lets see
20:39 <spidey> $56 for cable
20:39 <DrJoeTron> see that its a waste
20:39 <spidey> $5 for a shell
20:39 <spidey> $40 for the other stuff
20:40 <DrJoeTron> whats the "other" stuff
20:40 <spidey> hell i'd have a faster internet and host my own stuff
20:40 <spidey> :p
20:40 <spidey> gameservers
20:40 <spidey> websites
20:40 <spidey> etc
20:40 <DrJoeTron> you'll come close to maxing that out probably never
20:40 <spidey> nah
20:40 <spidey> i bet i could
20:40 <spidey> :D
20:40 <spidey> i'll need a few more computers though -_-
20:40 <DrJoeTron> save your money
20:41 <spidey> well
20:41 <spidey> they got
20:41 <DrJoeTron> get a car or something
20:41 <DrJoeTron> run animals over
20:41 <spidey> 15mbit down and 2mbit up
20:41 <spidey> $49 a month
20:41 <spidey> 15 Mbps/2 Mbps   	 	$44.95 - $49.95
20:42 <spidey> infact, that's cheaper o.o
20:43 <DrJoeTron> man
20:43 <DrJoeTron> blue host is like 7 bucks a month for web hosting
20:43 <spidey> mine's $9
20:43 <spidey> plus i get shell access
20:43 <spidey> ;x
20:43 <DrJoeTron> so does the rest of the world
20:43 <spidey> and webhosts who don't know what they're doing
20:43 <spidey> the rest of the world got that?
20:43 <spidey> ;x
20:43 <DrJoeTron> i need to switch web hosts
20:44 <DrJoeTron> i got fucked over for the last time
20:44 <DrJoeTron> directories i used all of the time are now cut off
20:44 <luke-jr_> I've seen webhosts for $5/mo
20:44 <DrJoeTron> yeah thats what Mine was
20:44 <luke-jr_> I don't see any way to compete or I'd do it
20:44 <wrtlprnft> ?
20:44 <DrJoeTron> now its like 8
20:44 <wrtlprnft> there's webhosts for less than a buch a month here
20:44 <spidey> $5?
20:44 <DrJoeTron> brb
20:44 <DrJoeTron> yeah mine was 5 bucks
20:44 <wrtlprnft> *buck
20:44 <spidey> i'm sure you don't get tech support, mysql, or other stuff
20:44 <spidey> :p
20:44 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: I'll host your website on hachi for $?/mo =p
20:45 <DrJoeTron> i sure did
20:45 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: $?/mo?
20:45 <DrJoeTron> sure do*
20:45 <DrJoeTron> 3 gigs of space and 25guigs of bw
20:45 <DrJoeTron> brb
20:45 <DrJoeTron> /away
20:45 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: yeah, depends on what he needs =p
20:45 <spidey> DrJoeTron,  for $9 i get unmetered bw and 5gigs
20:45 <spidey> plus the hosts don't know what they're doing so i get ssh for whatever
20:45 <spidey> :p
20:46 <luke-jr_> you assume unmetered
20:46 <DrJoeTron> i dont even go past a GIG
20:46 <spidey> i know
20:46 <spidey> if it wasn't my bw usage wouldn't sit at 0mb
20:46 <luke-jr_> it could
20:46 <luke-jr_> if they use something else to meter it
20:47 <spidey> oh well
20:47 <spidey> they said upto 5gigs
20:47 <spidey> so i'm fine
20:47 <luke-jr_> heh
20:47 <luke-jr_> 5 gigs bw isn't too much, depending on the site
20:47 <spidey> i figured since it wasn't keeping track they're not metering it
20:47 <spidey> luke-jr_,  for mine it is
20:47 <spidey> mbc only uses like 500mb
20:47 <spidey> i think micro said
20:47 <spidey> and it gets alot of traffic
20:47 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: what kind of website?
20:48 <spidey> DrJoeTron, if you want i could give you a ftp account :p
20:48 <spidey> only 3gigs left
20:48 <luke-jr_> "only"
20:49 <spidey> ya aa is using 1+ gig :p
20:53 <spidey> brb
21:00 <spidey> skrew mcdonalds, i just made my own oreo blizzard :p
21:01 <luke-jr_> you mean McFlurry
21:01 <luke-jr_> Blizzard is DQ
21:01 <spidey> oh ya
21:01 <spidey> well,skrew them both :p
21:01 <luke-jr_> =p
21:02 <spidey> deja_vu_, 
21:02 <deja_vu_> spidey: 
21:02 <spidey> do you ever sleep? :p
21:03 <wrtlprnft> spidey: deja_vu_ is intelligent enough to make his irc client respond with "spidey" everytime you say "deja_vu_"
21:03 <spidey> hmm
21:03 <deja_vu_> *g*
21:04 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu_: you just blew your cover!
21:04 <spidey> lol
21:04 <deja_vu_> yes, but i can't resist answering myself
21:04 <spidey> lol
21:04 <deja_vu_> wrtlprnft: my bot might be programmed to answer this :P
21:04 <wrtlprnft> must be a good bot then
21:04 <wrtlprnft> can i have the sources?
21:04 <deja_vu_> no
21:04 <wrtlprnft> why?
21:04 <deja_vu_> closed source all the way xD
21:04 <deja_vu_> ;)
21:05 <spidey> haha
21:05 <wrtlprnft> you're in a channel about FOSS, so gimme that code!
21:05 <spidey> wait, here comes luke-jr_ , it's immoral1
21:05 <spidey> !
21:05 <deja_vu_> hihi
21:05 <deja_vu_> spidey: this is what i'm scared off.
21:06 <deja_vu_> *of
21:06 <spidey> ?
21:06 <wrtlprnft> :Ð
21:06 <deja_vu_> spidey: he might react
21:06 <spidey> wrtlprnft,  you're a beaver?
21:06 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:06 <spidey> the D has a line through it
21:06 <spidey> like beaver teeth
21:06 <wrtlprnft> hehe
21:07 <wrtlprnft> ÷)
21:07 -!- deja_vu_ is now known as deja_vu
21:07 <wrtlprnft> let's see what you make of this
21:07 <luke-jr_> deja_vu: IMMORAL DIE DIE DIE =p
21:07 <wrtlprnft> ─ <-- that an mdash or ndash?
21:07 <spidey> oh oh, i know what that is!!!
21:07 <deja_vu> waaaaaah
21:07 <spidey> that's luke-jr_ !!
21:07  * deja_vu hides
21:08  * wrtlprnft pulls deja_vu out of his hiding place
21:08 <deja_vu> o_o
21:08  * wrtlprnft holds deja_vu in front of luke-jr_ 
21:08 <spidey> o.o
21:08  * deja_vu grins at luke-jr_ :]
21:08  * spidey drop kicks wrtlprnft  so deja_vu  can get away
21:08  * luke-jr_ bits off deja_vu 's head
21:09 <wrtlprnft> that's an evil grip
21:09 <deja_vu> o_o
21:09 <wrtlprnft> *grin
21:09 <spidey> lol
21:09  * deja_vu feels dizzy
21:09  * wrtlprnft watches deja_vu run away in pain and grabs spidey instead
21:09  * spidey stomps on wrtlprnft's big toe
21:10  * wrtlprnft pulls away his foot just in time
21:10  * spidey hits wrtlprnft in the noise with a closed back-hand fist
21:10 <spidey> ;D
21:10 <wrtlprnft> ˛˛˛˛˛
21:11  * wrtlprnft throws spidey out of the window
21:11 <wrtlprnft> 4th floor, that is
21:11  * wrtlprnft looks out of the window
21:11 <spidey> i'm a spider, i can make a webbed parachute
21:11  * wrtlprnft watches spidey go all splat
21:12 <wrtlprnft> how can a spidey hit me in the noise with a closed back-hand fist
21:12 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:12 <spidey> make a fist
21:12 <spidey> hit you with the back part
21:12 <wrtlprnft> oh, i'm scared
21:12 <spidey> good :D
21:12  * wrtlprnft runs down and just stomps on spidey
21:12 <spidey> i'll sick DrJoeTron  on you!
21:12  * wrtlprnft smears spidey on the sidewalk
21:13 <spidey> o.o
21:13 <deja_vu> ew
21:13  * wrtlprnft walks back up and closes the window
21:13 <spidey> deja_vu, all this for resuceing you!!
21:13 <spidey> never again -_-
21:13 <spidey> next time i'll let you die :p
21:13 <deja_vu> spidey: i'm very thankful :)
21:13 <spidey> deja_vu, 
21:13 <spidey> 'er
21:13 <spidey> DrJoeTron, what's your teamspeak ip/password
21:13 <spidey> ?
21:14  * deja_vu scraps spidey off the sidewalk and gives him a funeral :P
21:14 <spidey> :(
21:14  * wrtlprnft thinks deja_vu is a nice guy after all
21:14 <spidey> now i get to haunt wrtlprnft 
21:14 <deja_vu> yayy
21:14 <deja_vu> sounds like fun, doesn't it? :)
21:15 <wrtlprnft> not the me being hit in the face part
21:15 <wrtlprnft> the rest does
21:17 <deja_vu> i meant spidey haunting you ;)
21:17 <spidey> haha
21:18 <wrtlprnft> won't be easy for him
21:18 <wrtlprnft> my dream mode has a /ignore command
21:21 <spidey> dream?
21:22 <spidey> i never said in your dreams
21:22 <wrtlprnft> well, there's always a /ignore spidey command
21:22 <spidey> there's a /nick command to
21:22 <spidey> ;x
21:23 <wrtlprnft> won't help
21:23 <spidey> sure it will
21:23 <wrtlprnft> you'd be the only one haunting me, and my /ignore command is smart enough to notice that
21:23 <spidey> well
21:23 <spidey> you could ignore my hostname
21:23 <spidey> then
21:24 <spidey> i'd reconnect my bnc with a new one
21:24 <spidey> :)
21:24 <spidey>  (i=spidey@72.20.20.167):
21:24 <spidey> :D
21:24 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/spidey/chosts
21:24 <spidey> 'er
21:25 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/spidey/vhosts
21:25 <spidey> i can have any of those
21:26 <wrtlprnft> thanks for the list
21:26 <wrtlprnft> added to my haunt- ignore filter
21:26 <spidey> but
21:26  * wrtlprnft goes kick some butt on arma
21:26 <spidey> you'd have to ignore the whole thing
21:26 <spidey> host names and ip's
21:26 <spidey> which will take forever
21:26 <spidey> i can use bvhost "vhost"
21:26 <spidey> or
21:26 <spidey> bvhost 'ip"
21:30 <Vanhayes> #insult everyone
21:30 <armabot> everyone - You are nothing but a weedy bag of onion-eyed retch. 
21:48 <wrtlprnft> guru3: you plaing on 4team fortress?
21:55 <guru3> no
21:55 <guru3> someone using my name is?
21:58 <DrJoeTron> spidey go to the arma boards
21:58 <DrJoeTron> the info is there
21:58 <DrJoeTron> whatcha needit for
22:03 <wrtlprnft> guru3: yeah, someone named Tank Program
22:04 <wrtlprnft> and, on asking, pretending to be the real Tank
22:17 <wrtlprnft> SH****!!!!
22:17 <wrtlprnft> I JUST LOST MY WHOLE F*** OPERA SESSION!
22:23 <guru3> ah well
22:23 <guru3> with the nick borrowing
22:24 <guru3> if someone's being an asshole with my nick
22:24 <guru3> the people that i care what they think know i'm not that much of an ass
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22:58 <spidey> jo?
23:00 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueuhj9WsDzk mother fucking tf2!!
23:01 <DrJoeTron> oh god i cant wait for this
23:14 <DrJoeTron> when this game comes out, my grades are going to plummit
23:30 <DrJoeTron> fucking server wont show up
23:30 <DrJoeTron> time to change the ole ip
23:30 -!- DrJoeTron [i=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-37-225-31.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has quit [">-;;,ccc3"]
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23:37 <DrJoeTron> server is taking its sweet time to show up on the list
23:40 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:40 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:42 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: [2006/08/24 23:34:13] [1] Received new server: 64.108.205.96:4534
23:42 <DrJoeTron> :/
23:42 <DrJoeTron> bout time
23:42 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt show up on the master list
23:42 <wrtlprnft> that was 8 minutes ago. From that time on you should have been on the lost
23:42 <wrtlprnft> and you contacted my master 3 times since
23:42 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
23:42 <DrJoeTron> i see
23:43 <wrtlprnft> o well, i'll really be sleeping now
23:50 <DrJoeTron> goodnight
23:56 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: deja_vu
23:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: deja_vu

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