Log from 2006-08-02:
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00:10 <Luke-Jr> wtf is Bell talking about in the quicktime thread?
00:16 <guru3> he looked up the .rec extension
00:16 <guru3> & now good night
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01:09 <Lucifer_arma> haha, I just registered for the US Government class taught by the same guy that taught my Texas Government class :)
01:30 <Luke-Jr> ...so?
01:30 <Luke-Jr> people do that all the time, you know
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> he keeps changing his name, so I have to keep ignoring his new names
01:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> could someone please try custom connecting to xpert-darkstar.is-a-geek.org:4534?
02:01 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and please /msg me to tell me wether it working or not
02:01 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
02:01 <[Xpert]DarkStar> night everyone
02:02 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
02:29 <Vanhayes> #list
02:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
02:29 <Vanhayes> #list services
02:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: ghost, identify, invite, nicks, op, password, unban, and voice
02:29 <Vanhayes> #help ghost
02:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: (ghost [<nick>]) -- Ghosts the bot's given nick and takes it. If no nick is given, ghosts the bot's configured nick and takes it.
02:30 <Vanhayes> #help invite
02:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: (invite [<channel>] <nick>) -- If you have the #channel,op capability, this will invite <nick> to join <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
02:30 <Vanhayes> #help nicks
02:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: (nicks [<channel>]) -- Returns the nicks in <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
02:31 <Vanhayes> hmm
02:31 <Vanhayes> #help nicks#help voice
02:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no command "nicks#help voice".
02:31 <Vanhayes> whoops
02:31 <Vanhayes> #help voice
02:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: (voice [<channel>] [<nick> ...]) -- If you have the #channel,voice capability, this will voice all the <nick>s you provide. If you don't provide any <nick>s, this will voice you. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
02:32 <Vanhayes> #list later
02:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: notes and tell
02:32 <Vanhayes> #notes
02:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *josh*, ar*, nemo*, Nickserv, operserv, philippeqc, someone, and unknown.
02:32 <Vanhayes> #notes $randomnick
02:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Sent 7 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, and 13 minutes ago: <McSpiddles> enjoy the spam, Sent 7 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, and 13 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 7 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, and 26 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 4 weeks, 4 days, 21 hours, and 29 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, and Sent 3 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, and 30 minutes ago: <Sakireth> eat (1 more message)
02:32 <Vanhayes> #more
02:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: crap
02:33 <Vanhayes> #seen sakireth
02:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: sakireth was last seen in #armagetron 3 weeks, 4 days, 15 hours, 36 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Sakireth> #chuck
02:33 <Vanhayes> #chuck
02:34 <Vanhayes> #list google
02:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats
02:34 <Vanhayes> #help cache
02:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: (cache <url>) -- Returns a link to the cached version of <url> if it is available.
02:35 <Vanhayes> #cache www.armagetronad.net
02:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: 'www.armagetronad.net' is not a valid url.
02:35 <Vanhayes> #cache http://armagetronad.net
02:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: http://www.google.com/search?client=soap&q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Farmagetronad.net
02:36 <Vanhayes> #help meta
02:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: (meta <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{similar,notsafe}]) -- Searches google and gives all the interesting meta information about the search. See the help for the google command for a detailed description of the parameters.
02:36 <Vanhayes> #meta van
02:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search for "van" returned approximately 871000000 results in 0.51 seconds. Categories include "Top/Arts/Art History/Artists/G/Gogh, Vincent van".
02:36 <Vanhayes> #meta vanhayes
02:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search for "vanhayes" returned approximately 43 results in 0.40 seconds.[]
02:37 <Vanhayes> #google fight vanhayes
02:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: vanhayes: 621
02:37 <Vanhayes> #meta vanhayes --english
02:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search for "vanhayes --english" returned approximately 40 results in 0.22 seconds.[]
02:37 <Vanhayes> #meta vanhayes --english,restrict
02:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search for "vanhayes --english,restrict" returned approximately 6 results in 0.72 seconds.[]
02:37 <Vanhayes> #meta vanhayes --english,restrict 10
02:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search for "vanhayes --english,restrict 10" returned approximately 0 results in 0.70 seconds.[]
02:38 <Vanhayes> #meta vanhayes 10
02:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search for "vanhayes 10" returned approximately 27 results in 0.36 seconds.[]
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04:45 <Lizz> hi
04:45 <linuxlizzard> hello
04:45 <Lizz> hiya linux
04:46 <linuxlizzard> hiya
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> best weight loss drug in the world is cocaine
04:48 <Lizz> hey loocee.... is there a admin command for checking IPs of ppl who enter the server?
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04:55 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, look at the logs, they're printed there
04:56 <Lizz> umm nvm.. i meant when ur in the server and logged into admin
04:56 <Lizz> thx anyway
04:56 <Lizz> as u kick it shows.. wanted to kno it b4 that tho
04:58 <DrJoeTron> well that was a nightmare
04:58 <Lizz> u dream of loocee again joe?? lol
04:59 <DrJoeTron> better
04:59 <linuxlizzard> hey
04:59 <Lizz> LOL
04:59 <linuxlizzard> you see my message thur joe X)
04:59 <DrJoeTron> invader fucked up and told oscilloscope again
04:59 <DrJoeTron> say not again
04:59 <linuxlizzard> oh god
04:59 <DrJoeTron> he told someone again
04:59 <DrJoeTron> thats two people
04:59 <linuxlizzard> oof
04:59 <DrJoeTron> i changed it
05:00 <DrJoeTron> yeah i got your messages, did you get mine?
05:00 <linuxlizzard> nope
05:00 <DrJoeTron> grrr
05:00 <DrJoeTron> did you register het?
05:00 <DrJoeTron> here*
05:00 <linuxlizzard> ?
05:00 <linuxlizzard> freenode?
05:00 <linuxlizzard> have been forever ;)
05:00 <DrJoeTron> im not registered
05:01 <linuxlizzard> heh
05:01 <Lizz> bb
05:01 <linuxlizzard> thats why
05:01 <Lizz> l
05:01 <DrJoeTron> Lobsters Vs Mobsters
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05:01 <DrJoeTron> is what most people decided
05:01 <linuxlizzard> really
05:01 <DrJoeTron> haha yeah
05:02 <DrJoeTron> i took a tally and asked for names
05:02 <linuxlizzard> when was this :P
05:02 <DrJoeTron> i/ll tell you the new pass next time i see you
05:02 <DrJoeTron> just now
05:02 <linuxlizzard> indeed
05:03 <DrJoeTron> and thats the one everony grimmaced to
05:04 <DrJoeTron> lizz slo is back
05:05 <DrJoeTron> nm
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05:05 <DrJoeTron> alright i want sleep
05:06 <DrJoeTron> say so im gonna do so
05:06 <DrJoeTron> fucking server box
05:06 <DrJoeTron> making my type "say"
05:07 <linuxlizzard> haha
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> say you will
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> say you won't
05:09 * Lucifer_arma is working on his degree plan
05:09 <DrJoeTron> make up your mind tooo niiight?
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> say you will
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> say you won't
05:09 * Lucifer_arma loves that song when he was like 8
05:09 <DrJoeTron> wanna be miiiine?
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> *loved *loved!
05:09 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
05:09 <DrJoeTron> oh foreigner
05:09 * DrJoeTron is also picking classes
05:11 <DrJoeTron> is also gonna sleep
05:11 <DrJoeTron> lizzard il tell you the password tommarow
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05:11 <linuxlizzard> kk
05:11 <linuxlizzard> It better be a good one ;)
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> his new password is "jerkoff"
05:14 <linuxlizzard> haha
05:15 <linuxlizzard> well, time to get some rest I suppose
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06:32 <Lucifer_arma> damn, looks like I'll be graduating in Fall 2010
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you kicking around?
06:39 <GodTodd> yeah...i'm around
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> looks like Spring of 2010, actually :)
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> can you catch up with that ETC for me?
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> that's with the very last semester being 16 hours, too
06:40 <GodTodd> etc+
06:40 <GodTodd> ?
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> Estimated Time of Completion
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> school
06:41 * Lucifer_arma is finishing up his long-term plan, finally
06:41 <GodTodd> ahhh....i'm hoping to be done around then too
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> or at least as finished as it can be right now anyway
06:41 <GodTodd> i'd have to dig up my degree plan to know for sure :)
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> I'll put my spreadsheet up on my website when I'm done so you can take a gander at it :)
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> I want to clean it up for printing first, and I still need to fill in the last semester
06:42 <GodTodd> k
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> all's I know is there's only 16 hours left on this flowchart of mine, heh
06:43 <GodTodd> i'm hoping to finish my degree before it's time to buy our next house and car
06:43 <GodTodd> heh
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> shit, it just turned into a 17 hour semester
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06:48 <GodTodd> i'm probably going to go full load after re-wetting my feet this semester
07:00 <GodTodd> and by catch up with the etc...you mean can i finish by then?
07:00 * GodTodd isn't thinking too clearly tonight.
07:00 <GodTodd> heh
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07:08 <Lucifer_arma> yes, can you finish by then
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fixed it. Managed to pull a few classes back, so now a summer that used to be 2 hours is 5 hours (one more hour than I'm taking right now)
07:10 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: IIRC, by default logs don't show IP
07:12 <Luke-Jr> if I continued wasting money on college, I'd have graduated last spring...
07:12 <Luke-Jr> or maybe it's next spring, I forget
07:12 * Lucifer_arma is pretty sleepy, too
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> got maybe 3 hours of sleep last night, went to class, studied, took test. Loooong day
07:14 * Luke-Jr wonders why Lucifer_arma bothers with college
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07:14 <anjori> perhaps he wants to better himself?
07:15 <Luke-Jr> anjori: can do that more effeciently on your own
07:16 <Luke-Jr> while gaining practical experience, and self-learning skills at the same time
07:17 <Luke-Jr> anyway, I need to fix these C++ tValue binary operators...
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> for Aerospace Engineering, you think?
07:17 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: eh, I guess trial and error doesn't work out too well in that field ;)
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> how many rocket scientists get employed by building rocket ships in their backyards?
07:20 <GodTodd> 5
07:20 <GodTodd> heh
07:20 <Luke-Jr> 5?
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> er, since about 1960, I mean
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> not counting Goddard et al. (and whoever the German guy was, whose name I've forgotten)
07:21 * Lucifer_arma must be sleepy to forget the famous german rocket scientist that headed up the V-2 team and then came over to help on the Mercury project and more
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, they were all backyard rocket scientists :)
07:23 <Luke-Jr> now a days, that's illegal :(
07:24 <Luke-Jr> well, any serious rocket stuff anyhow
07:24 <Luke-Jr> or nuclear experiments
07:24 <GodTodd> wernher von braun?
07:24 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: Is X-Files evil?
07:25 <GodTodd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> that's the one, thanks
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> anybody want to join my fraternity?
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> It's called Pi Gamma Fuck You
07:31 <GodTodd> what're the greek letters for fuck and you?
07:31 <GodTodd> heh
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> But since Pi Gamma aren't english words, we shortened the name to Fuck You
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> all you have to do is write on all your tshirts something that looks like this: |Fuck You| <your name>
07:31 <GodTodd> do we at least get reach arounds?
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> alternately: <your name> |Fuck You|
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> no man, it's just another lame clan, like all the other fraternities
07:32 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:32 <GodTodd> hmmm
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'm planning on answer the question "What fraternity are you with?" with Pi Alpha Nu
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> only problem is, these damn kids are too young to get it :(
07:33 <GodTodd> heh
07:33 * Lucifer_arma is only slightly annoyed with a community college calc class filling up with fratboys and sorority chicks
07:33 <GodTodd> heh...how many will be left 3 meetings in?
07:33 <GodTodd> ;)
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> most of the class is still there, I think
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> I'll find out tomorrow, today was the last drop day
07:34 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> so everyone who was going to drop will have done so today
07:34 <GodTodd> and the rest will take the F :)
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> the class was pretty thin today, actually. I don't know if it's just people skipping class to take the test, people just not showing up, or if the class actually thinned
07:35 <GodTodd> hard to tell sometimes
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> I showed up because I skipped yesterday :)
07:36 <GodTodd> i had a netware class that started with 20 once....by last drop day it was down to 6
07:36 <GodTodd> heh
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmmm
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> my calc class last semester started with 36
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> but only 4 finished
07:36 <GodTodd> wow
07:36 <GodTodd> slackers
07:36 <GodTodd> heh
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I feel like I'm in some sort of elite group, being one of those 4, and finishing with an A, but the fact is, we got thrown in with a lot of fucking losers
07:37 <anjori> echo wow
07:37 <GodTodd> #echo wow
07:37 <armabot> wow
07:37 <anjori> enh, that's not what i was trying to accomplish :P but that works, too
07:37 <GodTodd> i know
07:37 <GodTodd> ;)
07:37 * Lucifer_arma is feeling good, he took the easiest math test today that he's taken in years
07:37 * anjori is on a bash kick right now
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> ah
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> echo $HOLYMUTHERFUCKINGSHIT
07:38 <Vanhayes> #night
07:38 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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07:38 <anjori> speaking of which, how can i make this work? if [ `cat /etc/issue` = "*Ubuntu*" ] && [ -a /etc/sudoers ]; then
07:38 <anjori> tells me there's too many arguments
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> take out the middle brackets?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> wait, what's -a for?
07:39 <anjori> if the file exists
07:39 <anjori> it's get tripped up on the first test statement, though
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> try taking out the middle brackets
07:39 <anjori> i tried commenting out the second part to make sure
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> /etc/issue has 3 lines in it to me
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> er, on my system
07:40 <anjori> maybe i should explain what i'm trying to do
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> so you probably need to grep instead of cat, if you're looking for Ubuntu in /etc/issue
07:40 <anjori> ah, okay
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> then probably just check string length
07:41 <anjori> yeah, i dont think i can use pattern matching in test statements, anyway. so *Ubuntu* wouldnt have worked
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> I forget how bash does it, but I basically mean this:
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> if `grep "Ubuntu" /etc/issue` != ""
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> you might find some arguments to grep that'll be more helpful in constructing the if statement, though
07:43 * Lucifer_arma notes that Intro to Computer Programming is a required course in his degree plan :/
07:43 <anjori> heh
07:43 <GodTodd> ahahahahaha.....i had to suffer through that for my aas
07:43 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: Pi Alpha Nu?
07:44 <anjori> ideally, i agree with luke about college. unfortunately, the world often doesn't work like that
07:44 <anjori> they want to see that piece of paper
07:44 <Luke-Jr> anjori: depends on the field, I guess
07:44 <Luke-Jr> most employers understand that a CS degree doesn't mean much
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> is luke saying stuff that's worth me not ignoring him for a few minutes?
07:46 <anjori> re: the bash thing: i'm writing an install script for konqueror service menus. you can specify whether you want to install it under home, or system-wide (which requires root privs). i realized, however, that ubuntu disables root by default. so i want it to check if they're using ubuntu and if a sudoers file exists. if so, use sudo instead of root.
07:46 <GodTodd> <anjori> ideally, i agree with luke about college. unfortunately, the world often doesn't work like that
07:46 <GodTodd> <anjori> they want to see that piece of paper
07:46 <GodTodd> <Luke-Jr> anjori: depends on the field, I guess
07:46 <GodTodd> <Luke-Jr> most employers understand that a CS degree doesn't mean much
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> I actually agree with luke on this anyway, I've fought and fought to avoid getting a degree, figuring I have the brains and talent to get what I want
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> and it's worked. Only, now I want to do something that requires very specialized knowledge that you can't get anywhere else,
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> hence the degree-chase
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I would feel really bad if I used this degree to get into, say, upper management in a grocery store
07:47 <GodTodd> hey...don't stomp on my dreams man :P
07:47 <GodTodd> heh
07:48 * Lucifer_arma notes that the big Texas grocery store requires degrees from managers, but doesn't care what kind of degree
07:48 <GodTodd> big texas grocery store? which one is that?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> or at least it did 12 years ago, according to the guy with the degree I knew that worked there :)
07:48 <Luke-Jr> O.o
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> HEB
07:48 <GodTodd> hmmm
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> I think they use a different name in your area, but I could be wrong about that.
07:49 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: so why are you ignoring me anyway?
07:49 <GodTodd> was gonna say...don't think we have those up here :)
07:51 <GodTodd> nah...they go as far north as waxahachie
07:52 <GodTodd> 40.1 mi to the nearest one :)
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> they're in Austin, San Antonio, and all the way down to the border, and that's all I really know :)
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> waco, too
07:53 <GodTodd> yeah but waco is 90-100 mi away :P
07:53 <GodTodd> heh
07:55 <anjori> has anyone played Tremulous? i installed it within the last week, and quickly realized again what it's like to be the noob. since tron is really all else i play, and that hasn't been the case in some time.
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> man, spreadsheets are annoying sometimes
07:58 <GodTodd> i'm going to ask karen if she can get me an interview at halliburton for electrical engineering....see if i can get work experience instead of a degree
07:58 <GodTodd> ;)
08:00 <GodTodd> spreadsheets always annoy me...but they are useful sometimes
08:00 <GodTodd> heh
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> what's annoying is this
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> I want it to compute the number of credit hours I'm taking that are outside my degree, like the developmental math and a physics class
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> I want it to compute GPA in-degree, and for all time, because in-degree matters for the application to UT
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> rather, it matters for the engineering college part of UT, all-time matters for UT itself
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> then I want both of these GPAs computed for UT as well
08:14 <GodTodd> i take it you want it to do it without you manually coding what cells to compute
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> I want to put in the credit hours now and leave the grade blank, when I get a grade, then I'll fill it in and it'll tell me
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> right, I want to just use sum() at the top of each column and have it just fucking work
08:14 <GodTodd> heh
08:14 <GodTodd> what program?
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> now I have to add another column, so 3 columns for each type of computation I'm trying to get
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> oo.o
08:15 <GodTodd> i haven't really fucked with formulas on that one....just basic stuff....but then i don't do a whole lot of spreadsheets
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> this column should do if(the grade column is not empty, number of hours the class is)
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> me neither, but I started this in a spreadsheet and it's worked well so far :)
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> just that the GPA computation it used to do was very basic
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> I also want the math to show while I"m looking at it, but hide when printing. :) That was easy, though.
08:18 <Luke-Jr> is tString unstreamable?
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08:22 * mathot is trying out linux today
08:22 <Luke-Jr> about time
08:22 <Luke-Jr> you're only 14 years late
08:22 <Luke-Jr> =p
08:22 <mathot> :-)
08:24 <mathot> Now I only need totalcommander to run on it (sorry I but I am a TC addict).
08:25 <mathot> And Arma of course
08:29 <mathot> But I assume Arma will run on any distro? (providing my video card is supported well enough).
08:29 <anjori> what distro you on?
08:30 <Luke-Jr> mathot: any recent one, anyhow
08:30 <mathot> Currently trying out opensuse 10.1
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> 24.136.93.27
08:33 <mathot> yep
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08:46 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: 0.2.8.2 has been released! | http://armagetronad.net/ | Watch out for ~walls from the future~ !!!
08:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o GodTodd] by guru3
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08:47 <Lucifer_arma> arg, how the hell am I supposed to get iptables runnign? :(
08:47 <guru3> ?
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> I just emerged it, and I keep telling it to reload its rules, and it says "no kernel support"
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> don't tell me I have to build a kernel, please
08:48 <guru3> you should only need the kernel modules
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> I tried modprobe iptables :)
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> modprobe ip_tables too
08:49 <guru3> & the kernel supports netfilter right?
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, what's netfilter? It's a genkernel all kernel
08:50 <guru3> should have it then
08:50 <guru3> so you modprobed ip_tables
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> localhost lib # modprobe ip_tables
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> FATAL: Module ip_tables not found.
08:51 <guru3> Oo
08:51 <guru3> my genkernel made it
08:52 <guru3> in /lib/modules/kernelversion/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> I don't have the ipv4 directory you've got there
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> how recent is your kernel build?
08:53 <guru3> a couple of days
08:53 <guru3> version 2.6.13-gentoo-r3
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, this kernel's a few months old. I need to build a new anyway, I s'pose
08:54 <guru3> i should think that it would have iptables support anyway
08:54 <Luke-Jr> guru3: wtf?
08:54 <Luke-Jr> 2.6.13 is at least a month old
08:54 <guru3> yeah
08:54 <Luke-Jr> Linux tsurukikun 2.6.17-gentoo #1 PREEMPT Fri Jun 30 13:36:05 UTC 2006 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ GNU/Linux
08:54 <guru3> but he asked built
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 <--- my sources, hmmmm
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, I didn't have iptables emerged when I built it before?
08:55 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: wouldn't matter
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going back to my degree plan, this is just more time I'm losing over a smeghead :/
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09:02 <wrtlprnft> #morning
09:02 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune: After Donald Trump's stretch limousine was stolen and found || undamaged a few blocks away; he said, "Nothing was stolen. I had || an honest thief."-International Herald Tribune, page 3, March 2, || 1992
09:08 <wrtlprnft> #cyborgname STM
09:09 <wrtlprnft> :S
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> #cyborg STM
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> I must have unloaded that plugin. :/
09:13 <wrtlprnft> i guess so
09:13 <wrtlprnft> STupid Motherf***
09:14 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5929 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/language/english_base.txt: The implementation of spectator mode changed. Thanks to Fonkay for noticing!
09:15 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: hi
09:15 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: do we really need tValue::Base::copy?
09:15 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: hi
09:15 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: not if we use shared_ptr
09:15 <wrtlprnft> it was needed when we used std::auto_ptr
09:16 <Luke-Jr> ok, so we don't need it anymore?
09:16 <wrtlprnft> no
09:16 <Luke-Jr> ok, it's gone =p
09:16 * Luke-Jr goes to destroy it
09:19 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: I'm pondering whether Add should concat or not
09:19 <Luke-Jr> maybe it should actually try to numerically add strings?
09:21 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: no, please not
09:21 <wrtlprnft> that's slow too
09:22 <Luke-Jr> eh?
09:23 <wrtlprnft> numerically adding two strings
09:24 <wrtlprnft> but you can do it
09:24 <wrtlprnft> and add a . operator for strings :)
09:24 <Luke-Jr> except . was going to be used as a object.function seperator :x
09:25 <wrtlprnft> you can distinguish that by data types
09:26 <wrtlprnft> an object + a function doesn't make sense to put into a string
09:31 <Luke-Jr> data types don't exist at parse time
09:31 <Luke-Jr> preferably
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09:31 <Luke-Jr> eliminating ::copy is a pain :(
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09:39 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/Degree_Plan.ods
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> awww, he left
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, there ya go, degree plan :)
09:47 <Your_mom_arma> what did we ever do to the guy that keeps defacing the wiki
09:48 <Your_mom_arma> Luci did someone brute force your password? (blocked ... changed my password)
09:49 <Luke-Jr> Your_mom_arma: tried, IIRC
09:50 <Your_mom_arma> oh?
09:57 <guru3> microsoft is great
09:57 <guru3> "Your Web site has been deleted."
09:58 <Luke-Jr> guru3: ?
09:58 <guru3> it's just a funny message to bother showing
10:01 <Luke-Jr> hm
10:01 <Luke-Jr> microsoft.com crashes konq
10:04 <wrtlprnft> lol
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: no, somebody tried to login as me and then kept hitting the "send me a new password" button
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> I decided that was definitively bad behavior and blocked him
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> also, if you look at recent changes, someone called Fucktheadmin was screwing around, probably someone who had a temporary ban that just now turned into a permanent ban
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> (Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Fucktheadmin". The reason given for Fucktheadmin's block is: "'''idiot'''")
10:16 <Luke-Jr> o.O
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11:00 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r5930 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tools/ (tValue.cpp tValue.h):
11:00 <armabot> armagetronad: Add GetValue method for tValues, and split C-style Math class into BinaryOp class with Add, Subtract, Divide, and Multiply subclasses
11:00 <armabot> armagetronad: This seems to work after a quick local round (before the zone bug crashes it)
11:00 <armabot> armagetronad: Be on the lookout for "WARNING: Base::GetValue called!"-- that would be a bug, I think
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11:52 <wrtlprnft> lol what's a C- style math class?
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12:14 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: an idea: the svn commit messages on http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/armagetronad have a "(link)" behind them that links to SF's websvn. What about having it link to the detail page for resource uploads?
12:18 <wrtlprnft> "Canis meus id comedit." == "My dog ate it."?
12:18 <wrtlprnft> my latin is nonexistent
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12:25 <anjori> wow. i just scored a 42 in wild fort. that has to be my best ever.
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12:59 <TitsnAss> yo
12:59 <TitsnAss> where luke
12:59 <TitsnAss> luke luke luke luke luke
13:00 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: TitsnAss wants to talk to you
13:00 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5931 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource/upload.suid-php: Added <url> tag to commit messages generated, they link to the detail page for the resource that was uploaded.
13:00 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
13:00 <TitsnAss> luke luke luke luke luke
13:00 <TitsnAss> luke luke luke luke luke
13:00 <TitsnAss> luke luke luke luke luke
13:00 <TitsnAss> luke luke luke luke luke
13:00 <TitsnAss> luke luke luke luke luke
13:00 <TitsnAss> what did he want to say?
13:00 <TitsnAss> oh
13:00 <TitsnAss> lol
13:00 <TitsnAss> Luke-Jr: hi
13:00 <TitsnAss> Luke-Jr yt
13:00 <TitsnAss> blah
13:00 <wrtlprnft> /ignore TitsnAss
13:05 <TitsnAss> wrtl can u tel luke something for me
13:06 <TitsnAss> yo
13:06 <wrtlprnft> what? ...
13:06 <wrtlprnft> he has a reason to ignore you probably
13:06 <TitsnAss> no i dont think so..
13:06 <TitsnAss> is he responding to u/
13:06 <TitsnAss> i'm trying to pay him money.. i dont think he would decline that
13:06 <wrtlprnft> uh, i guess he isn't there right now
13:06 <TitsnAss> kk
13:07 <wrtlprnft> probably sleeping
13:07 <wrtlprnft> but he doesn't ignore me
13:07 <wrtlprnft> not that i know of, anyways
13:07 <TitsnAss> tell him tits wants to cancel the server hosting because hes not sure if he can pay for it
13:07 <TitsnAss> or can get anyone to pay for his overpriced domains/hosting
13:07 <wrtlprnft> #later tell Luke-Jr 13:06 <TitsnAss> i'm trying to pay him money.. i dont think he would decline that
13:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
13:07 <TitsnAss> many of my friends get domains from yahoo 3 bucks a year and hes trying to sell it for 12 bucks
13:08 <wrtlprnft> #leter tell Luke-Jr 13:07 <TitsnAss> tell him tits wants to cancel the server hosting because hes not sure if he can pay for it
13:08 <wrtlprnft> #later tell Luke-Jr 13:07 <TitsnAss> or can get anyone to pay for his overpriced domains/hosting
13:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
13:08 <TitsnAss> tell him the one after
13:08 <wrtlprnft> #later tell Luke-Jr 13:07 <TitsnAss> many of my friends get domains from yahoo 3 bucks a year and hes trying to sell it for 12 bucks
13:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
13:08 <TitsnAss> kk thanks
13:08 <wrtlprnft> ...
13:08 <TitsnAss> thank you armabot :D
13:08 <TitsnAss> and wrtlprnft
13:09 <wrtlprnft> armabot is ignoring you.
13:09 <TitsnAss> armabot is a bot :)
13:09 <wrtlprnft> it's a she!
13:09 <TitsnAss> #later tell Luke-Jr 13:07
13:09 <TitsnAss> u spelled later wrong
13:09 <TitsnAss> you spelled it leter
13:09 <wrtlprnft> ?
13:09 <TitsnAss> so that operation didn't suceeed
13:09 <TitsnAss> above
13:09 <wrtlprnft> #later tell Luke-Jr 13:07 <TitsnAss> tell him tits wants to cancel the server hosting because hes not sure if he can pay for it
13:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
13:10 <TitsnAss> #later tell Luke-Jr 13:07 <TitsnAss> tell him tits wants to cancel the server hosting because hes not sure if he can pay for it
13:10 <TitsnAss> yea
13:10 <TitsnAss> that one
13:10 <wrtlprnft> armabot is ignoring you!
13:10 <wrtlprnft> #notes Luke-Jr
13:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sent 2 minutes ago: <wrtlprnft> 13:06 <TitsnAss> i'm trying to pay him money.. i dont think he would decline that, Sent 1 minute ago: <wrtlprnft> 13:07 <TitsnAss> or can get anyone to pay for his overpriced domains/hosting, Sent 1 minute ago: <wrtlprnft> 13:07 <TitsnAss> many of my friends get domains from yahoo 3 bucks a year and hes trying to sell it for 12 bucks, and Sent just now: (1 more message)
13:10 <TitsnAss> :)
13:10 <TitsnAss> #notes Luke-Jr
13:10 <wrtlprnft> wrong order tho
13:10 <TitsnAss> how come the bot is ignoring me
13:10 <TitsnAss> #ignore lis
13:10 <TitsnAss> t
13:10 <TitsnAss> #ignore list
13:10 <TitsnAss> bah
13:10 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma made her do that
13:11 <TitsnAss> can you undo it?
13:11 <wrtlprnft> sice you were in here and annoying everyone
13:11 <wrtlprnft> i can't
13:11 <TitsnAss> :<
13:11 <TitsnAss> :>
13:11 <TitsnAss> : >
13:11 <TitsnAss> bad lucifer..
13:12 <wrtlprnft> i think Lucifer_arma is ignoring you too
13:12 <wrtlprnft> he doesn't clear out his ignore list as often as i do
13:12 <TitsnAss> o
13:12 <TitsnAss> your a good boy
13:13 <TitsnAss> or girl
13:13 <TitsnAss> or... bot whatever you are
13:13 <TitsnAss> tell him to email me at alienwarecrazy@gmail.com
13:13 <TitsnAss> kk
13:13 <TitsnAss> lat3r
13:13 <wrtlprnft> cya
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13:16 <DrJoeTron> man he's annoying
13:16 <wrtlprnft> yeah
13:16 <spidey_> haha
13:16 <spidey_> i'm glad i was asleep
13:17 <DrJoeTron> i dont remember him being like this at all. did he fall out of several tree's?
13:17 <wrtlprnft> spidey_: you found a match in annoyingness
13:17 <wrtlprnft> now don't fight for it, ok?
13:17 <spidey_> ;x
13:17 <spidey_> i'll try
13:17 <spidey_> ;s
13:17 <spidey_> i maybe annoying
13:17 <spidey_> but he's annoying and retarded ;x
13:18 <DrJoeTron> you two would make a cute couple ^^
13:18 <spidey_> i'm already yours ;x
13:18 <DrJoeTron> :D
13:19 -!- You're now known as TNASlapper
13:19 <spidey_> haha
13:19 * TNASlapper slaps TitsnAss
13:19 * TNASlapper slaps TitsnAss
13:19 * TNASlapper slaps TitsnAss
13:19 * TNASlapper slaps TitsnAss
13:19 * TNASlapper slaps TitsnAss
13:19 * TNASlapper slaps TitsnAss
13:20 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
13:28 <wrtlprnft> ARGH!
13:28 <wrtlprnft> looks like I caused that crash after all
13:28 <spidey_> *Laughs*
13:28 <spidey_> hmm
13:28 <spidey_> lmao
13:28 <spidey_> Be Right Back.
13:28 <spidey_> wtf
13:28 <spidey_> O.o
13:28 <spidey_> Be Back Later
13:28 <spidey_> cooooooooool
13:29 <wrtlprnft> omg
13:29 <wrtlprnft> /sience spidey_
13:29 <spidey_> *Laughs*
13:29 <spidey_> sience?
13:29 <wrtlprnft> /silence spidey_
13:29 <spidey_> mwh
13:29 <spidey_> meh*
13:31 <wrtlprnft> fuck Luke-Jr's snailmail change in all files
13:31 <wrtlprnft> now i have to completely recompile arma if i switch between revisions
13:36 <wrtlprnft> great, just great
13:36 <wrtlprnft> now i just hoped I fixed the trunk, now Luke-Jr's addition won't compile
13:38 <wrtlprnft> #later tell Luke-Jr did you forget to commit cWidgetBase.cpp? The current version is incompatible with your tValue changes
13:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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13:43 <wrtlprnft> short visit
13:56 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5932 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gWall.cpp zone/zZone.cpp zone/zZone.h):
13:56 <armabot> armagetronad: - commented out assert in gWall.cpp, it still stops the game for no apparent reason
13:56 <armabot> armagetronad: - reverted my fix with the HUD map once again since it caused some trouble I don't understand. Shots on pig sty won't disappear anymore, but at least the game won't crash.
13:56 <armabot> armagetronad: This makes the game useable again, though luke's last commit won't compile, downgrade tValue.* to r5929 if you want to compile it.
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14:27 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5933 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/ (preview.php unknown.png): Added a real 404 message and enabled viewing at least basic information about cockpits.
14:27 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
14:28 <wrtlprnft> #runhandler aabetaupdate
14:28 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
14:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: executed handler aabetaupdate successfully
14:31 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5934 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: Show the source code for non- aamap files. "Other versions" links should be fixed now too, though I can't test it.
14:31 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
14:32 <wrtlprnft> #runhandler aabetaupdate
14:32 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
14:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: executed handler aabetaupdate successfully
14:33 <DrJoeTron> #serverlist
14:33 <DrJoeTron> :/
14:35 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
14:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
14:35 <wrtlprnft> it seems to be permanently broken now
14:35 <DrJoeTron> ruh roh
14:40 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5935 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource/upload.suid-php: Only try to generate previews if possible.
14:40 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
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15:00 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/wrtlprnft/testfile-0.0.1.aacockpit.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
15:01 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/wrtlprnft/testfile-0.0.2.aacockpit.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
15:04 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5936 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: More double- slash fixes.
15:04 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
15:05 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5937 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: Ack, don't change 'http://' to 'http:/' of course!
15:05 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
15:07 <wrtlprnft> #runhandler aabetaupdate
15:07 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
15:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: executed handler aabetaupdate successfully
15:08 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5938 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: Fixed 404 header.
15:08 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
15:10 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5939 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/resource/proto/AATeam/wrtlprnft-0.0.1.aacockpit.xml: Bumped version number.
15:11 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/wrtlprnft/classic-0.0.1.aacockpit.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
15:12 <spidey_> you wanna know what's fucked up
15:12 <spidey_> when someone calls me yesterday and i can't even remember it
15:13 <spidey_> worse part my grandma "woke me up" which i don't remember so i could talk to them
15:13 <spidey_> but i wasn't awake ;D
15:13 <spidey_> hope i didn't tell on myself :s
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15:20 <DrJoeTron> aww no one is in tit's server"(
15:20 <DrJoeTron> gee its such a good server
15:21 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wanna see a fun server?
15:22 <[Xpert]DarkStar> play on mine, guess you'll find out why it's called psychotron
15:22 <DrJoeTron> do i need 2.8.2
15:22 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i just noticed it crashed or something...
15:22 <DrJoeTron> haha
15:23 <[Xpert]DarkStar> should be up and running now
15:24 <linuxlizzard> hey
15:24 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and i'm not sure what's the minimum version
15:25 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it's running on 0.3.0
15:26 <DrJoeTron> yo lizzard
15:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hey lizz
15:26 <linuxlizzard> X)
15:26 <DrJoeTron> >-;;,ccc3
15:27 <DrJoeTron> you see the recient wii specs?
15:28 <linuxlizzard> jaja
15:28 <linuxlizzard> the latest rumor is that it may run on linux X)
15:28 <DrJoeTron> http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/02/zscanner-700-almost-as-cool-as-a-view-master-3d/ looks like a fun new way to make bike models :p
15:28 <DrJoeTron> haha surre it will
15:31 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5940 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: Show dirs before files.
15:31 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
15:33 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5941 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/unknown.png: Made icon compatible with IE
15:33 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
15:34 * wrtlprnft smacks IE
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15:42 <spidey_> hmm
15:42 <spidey_> i've got a idea!
15:42 <spidey_> maybe
15:42 * spidey_ starts reading bash
15:43 <spidey_> s/bash/batch
15:45 <wrtlprnft> bash > batch
15:45 <spidey_> alligator mouth eats loser
15:45 <spidey_> besides it's for windows
15:45 <spidey_> so batch
15:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> get cygwin
15:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and run bash on windows
15:46 <spidey_> i got it
15:46 <spidey_> >.<
15:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> something i'm still waiting for is mod_bash for apache
15:46 <spidey_> you know how you put something in /usr/bin in linux and you can run it by typing it in konsole?
15:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> chmod +x
15:47 <spidey_> well i'ma make batch scripts for all the programs i use put them in \windows\system32
15:47 <spidey_> and do the same
15:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> the suffering of the windows user ><
15:48 <spidey_> when wine supports the games i play
15:48 <spidey_> i'll stop dual booting
15:48 <spidey_> till then
15:48 <spidey_> windows always has a partition :p
15:48 <spidey_> well
15:48 <spidey_> windows gets the 12gig drive
15:48 <spidey_> linux gets a 30gig partition on my 111gig drive
15:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i'm currently trying to get hl2 running under wine
15:49 <spidey_> wait till the new release
15:49 <wrtlprnft> [Xpert]DarkStar: what's wrong with using CGI?
15:49 <spidey_> it'll support hl2 and some other game
15:49 <wrtlprnft> bash loads blazing fast anyways
15:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> [Xpert]DarkStar: i want mod_bash on my own webserver
15:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> cause it
15:49 <wrtlprnft> ...
15:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 's the only language i really can
15:50 <wrtlprnft> well, use CGI
15:50 <wrtlprnft> any bigger bash script calls bash many times anyways
15:50 <wrtlprnft> so there's no problem with having to load it on each call
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15:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> :/
15:51 <wrtlprnft> hi ghableska
15:51 <ghableska> hi wrtlprnft
15:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hi ghableska
15:51 <ghableska> hi [Xpert]DarkStar
15:52 <spidey_> this
15:52 <spidey_> is windows wanting to be linux
15:52 <spidey_> http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/2836/wannabelinuxja2.jpg
15:52 <spidey_> ;x
15:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> does anyone know what libdl is?
15:52 <linuxlizzard> haha
15:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> spidey_: not that bad ^^
15:52 <wrtlprnft> #google libdl
15:52 <spidey_> ;D
15:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.47 seconds: BeBits - libdl .so: <http://www.bebits.com/app/2917>; libdl @Everything2.com: <http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=978595>; RPM resource libdl .so.2: <http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libdl.so.2>; docs.sun.com: man pages section 3: Library Interfaces and Headers: <http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-0218/6m6nirqld?a=view>; RPM (2 more messages)
15:52 <wrtlprnft> looks awful :P
15:52 <spidey_> haha
15:53 <spidey_> my stupid client keeps talking to me
15:53 <wrtlprnft> tooo much black
15:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> spidey_: is that fluxbox?
15:53 <spidey_> everytime someone posts a link it says
15:53 <spidey_> "site address has been stored"
15:53 <spidey_> >.<
15:53 <linuxlizzard> heh
15:53 <wrtlprnft> http://a.com
15:53 <wrtlprnft> http://b.com
15:53 <wrtlprnft> http://c.com
15:53 <wrtlprnft> http://d.com
15:53 <wrtlprnft> http://e.com
15:53 <linuxlizzard> yes
15:53 <spidey_> [Xpert]DarkStar. blackbox
15:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i used to use fluxbox
15:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> now using gnome
15:54 <spidey_> gnome sucks
15:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> to each their own
15:54 <spidey_> ;x
15:54 <wrtlprnft> gnome sucks
15:54 <spidey_> when i'm on linux i either use kde of fluxbox
15:55 <wrtlprnft> wannabe max
15:55 <wrtlprnft> *wannabe mac
15:55 <spidey_> ohh
15:55 <spidey_> i can make windows look like mac to
15:56 <wrtlprnft> gnome is wannabe mac
15:56 <spidey_> i get 120+ fps in tron now because
15:56 <spidey_> with this thing
15:56 <spidey_> i right click
15:56 <spidey_> disable plugins
15:57 <spidey_> then it's a blank desktop
15:57 <spidey_> and i get the extra fps
15:57 <spidey_> because there's nothing loaded on the desktop
15:57 <spidey_> ;x
15:57 <wrtlprnft> an idle desktop shouldn't eat any CPU
15:57 <spidey_> .....
15:57 <spidey_> who said anythng about cpu
15:57 <spidey_> i was talking about gpu
15:57 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't eat any anything
15:58 <spidey_> it doesn't
15:58 <spidey_> nvm
15:58 <spidey_> on linux i don't even get 120+ fps
15:58 <spidey_> so it's not a windows/linux thing ;)
16:03 <spidey_> hmm
16:03 <spidey_> i wish i hadn't put that damned stereo ontop of the computers >.<
16:03 <spidey_> Be Right Back. adding ram to this box
16:04 <spidey_> Current System Configuration �I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n�
16:04 <spidey_> Operating System: Windows XP Build 2600 up for 22 hours, 40 minutes 27 seconds
16:04 <spidey_> CPU/MEM: 1 Intel , 2193MHz with Currently 261 of 376MB in use which is 69.41%
16:04 <spidey_> Storage System: n/a Internet Connection: n/a
16:04 <spidey_> Display System: n/a using a n/a monitor at 1280 by 1024 32bit color 60Hz refresh
16:04 <ghableska> :O
16:05 <wrtlprnft> stfu or I'll ask guru3 to disable colors
16:05 <spidey_> Current Drive Storage Status. �I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n�
16:05 <spidey_> Drive C of 111G has 50.1G free. Drive F of 12.7G has 8.11G free.
16:05 <spidey_> Total Storage: 124G Total Used: 66.2G Total Free: 58.2G
16:05 <spidey_> hmm
16:05 <spidey_> weird
16:05 <spidey_> anywho
16:05 <spidey_> Be Right Back.
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16:05 <wrtlprnft> i hope he'll take a whie
16:05 <wrtlprnft> l
16:06 <guru3> yeah
16:06 <ghableska> heh
16:16 <DrJoeTron> time to go back to school and pick classes
16:16 * DrJoeTron hates this week
16:18 <linuxlizzard> hah
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16:26 <spidey> yay for 1 things
16:26 <spidey> 1 more ram
16:26 <spidey> 2 my bnc works again
16:26 <spidey> >.<
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16:32 <spidey> #g 256+256
16:32 <armabot> 256 + 256 = 512
16:33 <spidey> er
16:33 * spidey goes to tron
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16:45 -!- Vanhayes__ is now known as Vanhayes
16:49 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
16:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || �/xf5fbff�ps Arena (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || 1V1 Sumo Arena (4 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (4 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (3 players) || Mutiny Clan Server (3 players) || ~"XzL. Clan Server (3 players) || Norm's Place (3 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (3 (1 more message)
16:49 <Vanhayes> wow it worked
16:50 <Vanhayes> #more
16:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: players) || Team LOL Server {by TNA} (2 players) || LumaTron (2 players) || RaceToWinzone (Testversion) (2 players) || Stonehenge hide and seek zones! (1 players) || Lobster Cage Redux (0 players)
16:50 <wrtlprnft> wtf?
16:50 <wrtlprnft> it works?!
16:50 <Vanhayes> maybe it fixed itself?
16:50 <wrtlprnft> maybe guru3 fixed it ;)
16:51 <guru3> no there's something wrong
16:51 <guru3> with one of the master servers or something
16:51 <wrtlprnft> #last --from wrtlprnft --with STM
16:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 2375 messages.
16:51 <guru3> and when it picks that one randomly
16:51 <guru3> it craps out
16:51 <guru3> and the update fails
16:51 <wrtlprnft> ah
17:00 <guru3> at least
17:00 <guru3> that's my theory
17:00 <guru3> as to why it fails
17:00 <guru3> bottom line is that it does fail
17:13 <wrtlprnft> just have it try again immediately?
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17:23 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
17:23 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
17:23 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
17:23 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
17:23 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
17:23 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
17:23 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
17:23 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
17:23 <Vanhayes> heh
17:23 <mathot> #heh
17:23 <Vanhayes> lol
17:23 <mathot> :-D
17:24 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: I guess you have to wait a while before trying again
17:24 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
17:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
17:25 <mathot> the tigers classic server went down today
17:26 <wrtlprnft> #help armaservers
17:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (armaservers [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armaservers at the RSS feed <http://armagetronad.net/browser2/serverrss.php>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
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17:27 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
17:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 2
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17:36 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
17:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
17:37 <Vanhayes> #later tell ghableska Vanhayes said Hello.
17:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
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17:44 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: we managed to find out why SD's maps get rendered with some weird lines in your previewer: They have double points :S
17:44 <wrtlprnft> ie two consecutive points with the same coordinates in the same <Wall> element
17:44 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Self_Destructo/square/fmap-1.2.0.aamap.xml
17:45 <wrtlprnft> the fixed version renders fine: http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/square/fmap-1.2.1.aamap.xml
17:45 <nemostultae> OK. Let me try to reproduce a simple testcase, so I can file a bug.
17:47 <wrtlprnft> :)
17:47 <Luke-Jr> blah, TNA is annoying
17:48 <Luke-Jr> I told him I couldn't compete with webhosting or domains. But he was SO sure he'd already sold a few at $12/yr
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17:52 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/wrtlprnft/square/fmap-1.2.2.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
17:54 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/armagetronad/.message/20dcd5 <-- note the "URL" attribute
17:55 * Luke-Jr noticed
17:55 <wrtlprnft> :)
17:55 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: oops re cWidgitBase
17:55 <Luke-Jr> did you already fix it, or should I commit mind?
17:55 <Luke-Jr> mine*
17:56 <wrtlprnft> youors
17:56 <wrtlprnft> *yours
17:56 <wrtlprnft> i assumed you wouldn't commit anything broken and didn't wanna do the work twice
17:57 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r5942 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/cockpit/cWidgetBase.cpp: Fix to work with new subclass math operators
17:57 <Luke-Jr> heh
17:57 <Luke-Jr> well, I *was* tired last night
17:57 <Luke-Jr> and Svn for some reason didn't update my code with your beautification
17:57 <Luke-Jr> so I need to manually diff/patch my changes to current trunk
17:58 <wrtlprnft> my beautification?
17:58 <Luke-Jr> or someones
17:58 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:58 <wrtlprnft> that's ph who made it
17:58 <Luke-Jr> everything was reindented
17:58 <wrtlprnft> and you need to do make rebeautify
17:58 <Luke-Jr> so I had to use diff -Bb to move changes over
17:58 <Luke-Jr> cuz Svn was dumb and didn't update it
17:58 <wrtlprnft> make rebeautify on both checkouts
17:59 <wrtlprnft> o_O
17:59 <wrtlprnft> make rebeautify changed 22 files
18:00 <wrtlprnft> argh
18:00 <wrtlprnft> did you change the indentation when you did the snailmail change?
18:00 <Luke-Jr> not AFAIK
18:00 <Luke-Jr> I used sed
18:02 <wrtlprnft> weird
18:02 <wrtlprnft> did someone change the make rebeautify command?
18:02 <wrtlprnft> apart from your change gExplosion.cpp was last changed by Lucifer_arma on June 6
18:03 <Luke-Jr> [Xpert]DarkStar: IIRC, libdl is the dynamic linker
18:03 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: does the math subclass ops work now?
18:03 <wrtlprnft> didn't try yet
18:05 <wrtlprnft> shall i commit the rebeautified stuff?
18:08 <wrtlprnft> the new math stuff seems to work fine.
18:09 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: wanna make factories for all tValues? ;)
18:09 <wrtlprnft> that big if/elseif thing is ugly
18:10 <wrtlprnft> if it wasn't if/elseif you could make a std::map<tString, tValue::BasePtr(*)(tValue::BasePtr const &, tValue::BasePtr const&)> and use that
18:11 <wrtlprnft> it would probably even be a tiny bit more performant
18:11 <wrtlprnft> hint, hint
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18:14 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: wtf is a factor?
18:15 <wrtlprnft> uh
18:15 <wrtlprnft> x*y=z
18:15 <wrtlprnft> x is a factor
18:15 <wrtlprnft> y is a factor
18:15 <Luke-Jr> and I was told in ##c++ that C++ cannot store class pointers
18:15 <wrtlprnft> z is the product
18:15 <Luke-Jr> factory*
18:15 <wrtlprnft> ah
18:15 <wrtlprnft> a factory basically is a class pointer :)
18:15 <wrtlprnft> you put a static function in every class
18:15 <Luke-Jr> besides, you could probably do it since you know what you're talking about =p
18:16 <Luke-Jr> oh, like copy? =p
18:16 <wrtlprnft> that function creates a new instance and returns it
18:16 <wrtlprnft> static Class * Factory(arg1, arg2) {
18:16 <wrtlprnft> return new Class(arg1, arg2);
18:16 <wrtlprnft> }
18:16 <wrtlprnft> and then you can store function pointers
18:17 <Luke-Jr> i c
18:17 <wrtlprnft> uh, not quite like that
18:17 <Luke-Jr> any way to use template for copy/factory?
18:17 <wrtlprnft> you could use a macro
18:17 <wrtlprnft> but no template
18:18 <Luke-Jr> oh, right-- it needs to be virtual
18:18 <wrtlprnft> class Derived : public Base {
18:18 <wrtlprnft> Base(args) {}
18:18 <wrtlprnft> ack
18:18 <wrtlprnft> i can't write code in IRC
18:19 <wrtlprnft> class Derived : public Base {
18:19 <wrtlprnft> Derived(args) {}
18:19 <wrtlprnft> Base * factory(args) {
18:19 <Luke-Jr> well, if you want to do the factory and/or copy-macro stuff, feel free-- I'm probably going to subclass-ify the comparison stuff next, and then finish the parser
18:19 <wrtlprnft> i guess I'll do it
18:21 <Luke-Jr> BTW, I wasn't able to kill ::copy =p
18:22 <wrtlprnft> just get rid of every place that uses it?
18:23 <wrtlprnft> it should mostly be tValue::Set
18:23 <wrtlprnft> you can just copy the BasePtr now as it will refcount
18:23 <Luke-Jr> it's used everywhere
18:23 <Luke-Jr> and not everything is a BasePtr
18:24 <Luke-Jr> for example, I have no clue how to make 'this' into a BasePtr
18:24 <Luke-Jr> anyway, something else might need ::copy someday, so I figure maybe just leave it
18:24 <Luke-Jr> especially if it can be mostly macro-ified
18:24 <wrtlprnft> macros are so C :s
18:25 <Luke-Jr> well blame C++ for not allowing virtual templates? =p
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18:25 <ghableska> hi Lackadaisical
18:25 <Lackadaisical> hi
18:25 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: am I correct that Base::GetValue should never be called?
18:26 <wrtlprnft> not really
18:26 <wrtlprnft> my code uses Base as a dummy
18:26 <Luke-Jr> ah
18:26 <Luke-Jr> hm
18:27 <wrtlprnft> for cases where there is just nothing to be stored
18:27 <wrtlprnft> buggy cockpit files might cause it to be called
18:27 <Luke-Jr> such as? =p
18:28 <wrtlprnft> data sets in cockpit files always have a min, max, and value
18:28 <wrtlprnft> not in all cases min and max are needed so I allow omitting it
18:28 <wrtlprnft> if it's not defined it will be a tValue::Base
18:29 <Luke-Jr> i c
18:29 <wrtlprnft> buggy as in "created by spidey"
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18:33 <TitsnAss> yo luke
18:34 <TitsnAss> anyone here
18:37 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5943 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: Forgot that resources with no given type attribute default to aamaps.
18:37 <armabot> Executed 'aabetaupdate'
18:39 <Luke-Jr> TitsnAss: no
18:39 <TitsnAss> kk
18:40 <wrtlprnft> does anyone have an idea for a better aacockpit icon?
18:40 <TitsnAss> talk to me in PM
18:40 <wrtlprnft> supper, bbl
18:40 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: a preview
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18:44 <Luke-Jr> ...
18:45 <Luke-Jr> TitsnAss_: /nick and PM
18:45 <TitsnAss_> what?
18:45 <TitsnAss_> hi
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18:45 <TitsnAss> ok
18:45 <TitsnAss> yo
18:45 <TitsnAss> are u there
18:46 <TitsnAss> yoo luke i wann pay
18:46 <TitsnAss> are u there?
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18:46 <Luke-Jr> omg
18:46 <Luke-Jr> what an idiot
18:47 <ghableska> :P
18:48 * DrJoeTron registered
18:48 * DrJoeTron for classes :D
18:50 <linuxlizzard> hehe
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18:51 <TitsnAss> okback
18:51 <linuxlizzard> hiya
18:51 <DrJoeTron> im hungry
18:52 <TitsnAss> dr joe tron
18:52 <DrJoeTron> yes?
18:52 <TitsnAss> how much do u think a 16 player slot server would cost
18:52 <TitsnAss> 10 bucks
18:52 <TitsnAss> ?
18:52 <DrJoeTron> free
18:52 <TitsnAss> eh
18:52 <DrJoeTron> i would never pay for a server on this game
18:52 <TitsnAss> where can i get one for free
18:53 <DrJoeTron> garbage pick up
18:53 <TitsnAss> How much do people that pay for servers pay?
18:53 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: make a preview script then
18:53 <TitsnAss> Luke-jr are you there
18:53 <DrJoeTron> fuck if i know
18:53 <TitsnAss> luke i'll pay u 16 bucks
18:53 <TitsnAss> happy?
18:53 <DrJoeTron> i dont know anyone but you who pays for arma server
18:54 <TitsnAss> do you know anyone who can host me one
18:54 <DrJoeTron> not really
18:56 <DrJoeTron> i know luke jr does
18:56 <DrJoeTron> talk to him
18:56 <TitsnAss> lol
18:57 <linuxlizzard> heh,I just found a box and plugged it in :)
18:57 <DrJoeTron> you should see the lobster tub
18:57 <DrJoeTron> its not even in a box
18:57 <DrJoeTron> its on a gian metal slab
18:57 <Luke-Jr> linuxlizzard: that won't get low ping times =p
18:57 <linuxlizzard> hehe
18:57 <TitsnAss> where does luke live
18:57 <linuxlizzard> its been good enough so far ;)
18:57 <DrJoeTron> yeah luke where do you live
18:58 <DrJoeTron> i get like 30 ping on your server
18:58 <TitsnAss> he lives in misouri
18:58 <DrJoeTron> that would be why
19:01 <DrJoeTron> lizzard i gotta show you pics of the lobster tub
19:02 <linuxlizzard> oh yes
19:02 <DrJoeTron> its a pile of parts that make a server
19:02 <linuxlizzard> hah
19:02 <DrJoeTron> sitting under gomes's desk
19:02 <linuxlizzard> are you gonna do the lobster tank thing
19:02 <DrJoeTron> he kicks it accidently from time to time :p
19:02 <linuxlizzard> cuz that would be kewl
19:02 <DrJoeTron> i was about to
19:02 <linuxlizzard> lol
19:02 <DrJoeTron> but the pc i got
19:02 <DrJoeTron> wasnt good enough
19:02 <linuxlizzard> I see
19:02 <Luke-Jr> DrJoeTron: I live in Missouri-- my server I host on is somewhere in NJ or Chicago, IIRC
19:03 <TitsnAss> luke i sent wiildcat ur details
19:03 <TitsnAss> 15 bucks a month right
19:03 <TitsnAss> we will pay this month 15 bucks
19:03 <TitsnAss> then we will ralley together for the rest
19:03 <TitsnAss> 16 bucks*
19:03 <linuxlizzard> heh
19:04 <DrJoeTron> we thought about making lobster tub be the tank
19:04 <DrJoeTron> but eh
19:04 <Luke-Jr> ya
19:04 <TitsnAss> kk
19:04 <TitsnAss> nice
19:04 <DrJoeTron> we have no place putting the tank
19:04 <linuxlizzard> I see
19:04 <TitsnAss> wait for our 16 bucks
19:04 <DrJoeTron> but one day
19:04 <TitsnAss> does that cover multiply connections
19:04 <TitsnAss> like backup of the server
19:04 <TitsnAss> as many servers or just one
19:04 <Luke-Jr> ...
19:04 <Luke-Jr> one 16 slot server
19:04 <Luke-Jr> I do backups fairly often
19:05 <TitsnAss> o ok
19:05 <TitsnAss> You know in ur web interface
19:05 <TitsnAss> could you save my current settings and call it fortres
19:05 <Luke-Jr> ?
19:05 <TitsnAss> and then make a menu
19:05 <TitsnAss> with the settings for fortress
19:05 <TitsnAss> that i have
19:05 <spidey> lol
19:05 <Luke-Jr> ???
19:05 <TitsnAss> Look
19:05 <TitsnAss> Settings that i currently have
19:05 <TitsnAss> Save it as : Fortress in another page
19:06 <TitsnAss> and then whenever i create new settings can i be able to save them as a name
19:06 <TitsnAss> so i can switch through settings faster
19:06 <TitsnAss> like from fortress to sumo
19:06 <Luke-Jr> o
19:06 <Luke-Jr> i c
19:06 <TitsnAss> yeah
19:06 <TitsnAss> it would be easier
19:06 <Luke-Jr> ya
19:06 <Luke-Jr> I'll put it on my to-do list-- might be a few days
19:07 <TitsnAss> kk
19:07 <spidey> ????
19:07 <spidey> dude
19:07 <spidey> all you have to do is include it
19:07 <Luke-Jr> TitsnAss: when it's done, you'll use 'include profile/name'
19:07 <Luke-Jr> or smth like that
19:07 <TitsnAss> lol
19:07 <TitsnAss> k
19:07 <spidey> like /admin include examples/cvs_test/sumo_complete.cfg
19:07 <spidey> or
19:07 <Luke-Jr> spidey: the web interface doesn't make it possible to add them yet tho
19:07 <TitsnAss> kk
19:07 <TitsnAss> shut up spidey :)
19:07 <spidey> but why?
19:07 <spidey> they're already there
19:08 <spidey> it's default resource
19:08 <Luke-Jr> spidey: he wants custom ones
19:08 <spidey> oh
19:08 <spidey> i saved mine on the backup drive so it's copy and paste ;x
19:08 <Luke-Jr> TitsnAss: tho spidey's point does go for z-man's sumo settings
19:08 <spidey> TitsnAss kiss my ass
19:08 <TitsnAss> first kiss mine
19:09 <spidey> ...
19:09 <TitsnAss> ....
19:10 <DrJoeTron> Go Team Venture
19:10 <TitsnAss> eh?
19:11 <TitsnAss> : .
19:11 <TitsnAss> ok its back to peanut butter and pr0n time
19:11 <TitsnAss> seeya
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19:12 * DrJoeTron smashes nails into his eyes
19:12 <DrJoeTron> god why
19:12 <spidey> i really don't like that guy
19:12 <GodTodd> peanut butter and pr0n? don't think i wanna know...
19:13 * spidey goes back to watching zombie movies
19:13 <Luke-Jr> @.@
19:13 * DrJoeTron goes back to mario kart ds
19:13 <GodTodd> with peanut butter? ;)
19:13 <DrJoeTron> crunchy ;D
19:14 <GodTodd> lol
19:14 <GodTodd> i think titsnass is using creamy....
19:14 <GodTodd> :X
19:14 <DrJoeTron> hahahaha
19:14 <DrJoeTron> hooo. man
19:14 <DrJoeTron> probably with the dullest butter knife ;d
19:15 <spidey> the devils rejects
19:15 <spidey> ;x
19:15 <spidey> reminds me of Lucifer_arma
19:15 <DrJoeTron> Land of the dead :D
19:15 <spidey> got it
19:15 <DrJoeTron> good!
19:15 <spidey> dawn of the dead
19:15 <DrJoeTron> i love it:p
19:15 <spidey> night of the living dead
19:15 <DrJoeTron> its funny too
19:15 <spidey> day of the dead
19:15 <DrJoeTron> because two of those actors
19:15 <spidey> resident evil 1&2
19:15 <DrJoeTron> are in the Super Mario Bros Movie
19:15 <spidey> shuan of the dead is funny
19:15 <DrJoeTron> pretty much doing the same rolls
19:16 <spidey> i've got like
19:16 <spidey> 80 movies
19:16 <DrJoeTron> dawn of the dead remake was funny
19:16 <spidey> i want the first one
19:16 <spidey> but can't find i
19:16 <spidey> tt
19:16 <spidey> :/
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19:17 <DrJoeTron> its not bad
19:17 <DrJoeTron> oh come on
19:17 <DrJoeTron> you like zombie movies but you dont have half life 2?
19:17 <DrJoeTron> oh god
19:17 <DrJoeTron> ravenholm is soo crazy
19:17 <DrJoeTron> We Don't Go to ravenholm :p
19:18 <DrJoeTron> flinging people around with the gravity gun :D
19:18 * DrJoeTron goes to load up steam
19:25 <spidey> i haven't played hl2
19:25 <Luke-Jr> https://www.scifiboxsets.com/ Does this look legit?
19:26 <DrJoeTron> over priced if you ask me
19:27 <DrJoeTron> brb
19:27 <Luke-Jr> DrJoeTron: really? You can get all 9 seasons of X-Files for under $180?
19:27 <Luke-Jr> that's < $1/ep
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20:14 <Compn1> Luke-Jr : well its cheaper than amazon
20:14 <Compn1> it looks legit
20:14 <Compn1> they replace broken discs too
20:15 <Luke-Jr> DrJoeTron took too long to respond, and I was impatient, so I ordered =p
20:29 <wrtlprnft> looks like arma as I know it is dying away :(
20:30 <wrtlprnft> 1) Lucifer_arma cuts down his development to almost 0. No more dev discussions and stuff
20:30 <wrtlprnft> 2) BF Fortress is going down
20:30 <wrtlprnft> 3) I'm actually working together with Luke-Jr
20:33 <Vanhayes> bugfarm is going down??
20:36 <Lackadaisical> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=80261#80261
20:36 <Vanhayes> heh ya i just read that, explains why so many people were in US fortress yesturday
20:38 <Lackadaisical> guess i'm back to playing with a transatlantic ping ;)
20:38 <Compn1> the big question
20:38 <Compn1> is where will zman play now?
20:38 <Compn1> on CT wild fort? :P
20:40 <wrtlprnft> Compn1: no, his own servers
20:40 <wrtlprnft> they just won't be fortress anymore
20:40 <Compn1> ah
20:41 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-188-42.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"]
20:41 <wrtlprnft> more ads in quit messages :S
20:42 <Compn1> more crappy irc clients :S
20:44 <wrtlprnft> my client doesn't have ads in its default quit message
20:44 <wrtlprnft> it is so great it doesn't need them :)
20:45 -!- Nixda909 [n=d50aa335@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
20:45 <wrtlprnft> hi there
20:45 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["Drink Coca cola (http://www.cocacola.com)"]
20:47 <nemostultae> heh
20:47 <Nixda909> hi
20:47 -!- Nixda909 [n=d50aa335@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
20:48 <nemostultae> hi bye
20:50 <wrtlprnft> :S
20:51 <spidey> that police offer in the devil rejects got owned
20:51 <spidey> ;s
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21:06 <wrtlprnft> grr
21:07 <wrtlprnft> can someone tell me why lagometer is spelled laggometer in some places and not in some others?
21:23 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com ...i'm so damn good i broke it ;x
21:29 <spidey> hmm
21:31 <wrtlprnft> #google dict threshold
21:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.21 seconds: threshold - definition by dict .die.net: <http://dict.die.net/threshold/>; difference threshold - definition by dict .die.net: <http://dict.die.net/difference%20threshold/>; """Caching dictionary that uses access times to decide which ...: <http://orca.mojam.com/~skip/python/Cache.py>; [Tutor] Re: Unique Items in Lists: (3 more messages)
21:32 <spidey> bugfarm's going down?
21:32 <spidey> :(
21:34 <wrtlprnft> it is NOT going down
21:35 <spidey> ?
21:35 <wrtlprnft> BF fortress is going down probably in its current state
21:35 <spidey> .....
21:35 <spidey> are you pulling a Luke-Jr? >.<
21:36 <wrtlprnft> there'll be other BF servers
21:37 <spidey> hm
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you kickin' around?
22:07 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5944 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
22:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Added meriton's improved Lag-O-Meter and axes indicator: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=6761 .
22:07 <armabot> armagetronad: - Moved all the defined classes into a new namespace to avoid possible future conflicts as the code doesn't use our normal naming convention.
22:07 <armabot> armagetronad: - Made the color blend factor and minimal size of the Lag-O-Meter configurable.
22:07 <armabot> armagetronad: - Added option to use the old Lag-O-Meter, this will disappear (#ifdef'd out actually) in the trunk.
22:07 <armabot> armagetronad: - Added menu option to render the axes indicator.
22:19 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5945 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (38 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed)
22:19 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5846 to 5944:
22:19 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
22:19 <armabot> armagetronad: r5852 | z-man | 2006-07-28 21:51:08 +0200 (Fri, 28 Jul 2006) | 5 lines
22:19 <armabot> armagetronad: Added StateUpdate() to stuff that is called right after network data is
22:19 <armabot> armagetronad: received. This should fix the short rounds at match end if a player scores
22:19 <armabot> armagetronad: at the last possible momemt when the round restart has already been decided,
22:19 <wrtlprnft> I hope i did that right x_x
22:19 <guru3> what do you think of autodeleting forums users that haven't activated within a month?
22:20 <wrtlprnft> hmm
22:20 <wrtlprnft> what's the exact use?
22:20 <wrtlprnft> they can't post anything anyways
22:20 <guru3> helping to remove of spam registrations
22:20 <wrtlprnft> it's your forums, just make sure you have backups ;)
22:21 <guru3> eh what
22:21 <guru3> i make all my changes to the php live
22:24 <wrtlprnft> no, if you run a mysql command to delete all those users
22:26 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5946 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Disable the old Lag-O-Meter in the trunk.
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22:31 <TitsnAss> hi
22:32 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@87.123.148.255] has joined #armagetron
22:33 <TitsnAss> yo
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: I'm partial to a longer interval, but it's up to you. :)
22:33 <guru3> just an idea i had
22:35 <wrtlprnft> enjoy the new lagometer :)
22:36 <wrtlprnft> why am I always the one that merges meriton's code?
22:36 <TitsnAss> :)
22:36 <TitsnAss> i hate you guys *wimpers*
22:36 -!- TitsnAss [n=TitsnAss@c-24-5-241-188.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #armagetron []
22:36 <guru3> woo he r gone
22:36 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
22:37 <wrtlprnft> x_x
22:37 -!- linuxlizzard [n=linuxl@ip68-0-231-217.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["brb..."]
22:37 <wrtlprnft> i guess we already /ignored him and showed our dislike of him to have him leave
22:37 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*@c-24-5-241-188.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by guru3
22:37 <wrtlprnft> *enough
22:37 <@guru3> someone remind me to remove that
22:37 <@guru3> in a couple of days
22:37 <wrtlprnft> does that disable colors?
22:37 <@guru3> no
22:37 <wrtlprnft> uh, guess not
22:38 <wrtlprnft> what is +b then?
22:38 <@guru3> ban
22:38 <GodTodd> block
22:38 <GodTodd> yeah that
22:38 <GodTodd> :)
22:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
22:38 <wrtlprnft> ah, bans him, ok
22:38 <wrtlprnft> right, it has a parameter
22:39 <wrtlprnft> that guy lives in Canada?!
22:39 <wrtlprnft> or does ca mean cable?
22:39 <wrtlprnft> i guess only comcast knows
22:39 <guru3> geoiplookup c-24-5-241-188.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
22:39 <guru3> GeoIP Country Edition: US, United States
22:40 <GodTodd> probably california
22:40 <GodTodd> *** GodTodd is n=GodTodd@c-71-199-204-144.hsd1.tx.comcast.net
22:40 <GodTodd> that's mine and tx is texas
22:40 <wrtlprnft> ah
22:41 <guru3> texas x)
22:41 <wrtlprnft> geoip sounds interesting
22:42 * wrtlprnft is emerging it
22:42 <guru3> it can be useful
22:42 <wrtlprnft> why don't i have a hostname with cablesurf in it anymore?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> well, just a naked IP is nice too
22:43 <guru3> 1
22:43 <guru3> i mean yeah
22:43 * guru3 can't decide which anime to watch
22:43 <wrtlprnft> just run one anime on each of your computers?
22:45 <guru3> can't watch more than one ep simultaenously
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22:48 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/Degree_Plan.ods <--- here it is again, just looks better now :)
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: still there? Heh, I'm coming and going
22:52 <GodTodd> yeah...i'm coming and going as well
22:52 <GodTodd> heh
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> that spreadsheet I put up there, if you're careful to do two things, you should be able to use it yourself
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> You have to make sure when you move classes around that you copy and paste the entire row
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> and you only change the look in the styles on the right. :)
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> You do have to go to the place on the right where the math is done and say whether a class is in-degree, in-college, and/or all, of course, to get the GPA computation working right
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, that's my plan, and it works for me. :)
22:57 <GodTodd> looks good...i'll have to try and steal it ;)
23:06 <GodTodd> fuck i hate ie
23:06 <GodTodd> heh
23:06 <wrtlprnft> GodTodd: use something else
23:06 <spidey> ie!?!
23:06 <spidey> use firefox
23:06 <spidey> >.<
23:07 <wrtlprnft> use opera
23:07 * spidey tells wrtlprnft to bite him ahead of time
23:07 <spidey> 'er to slow
23:07 <wrtlprnft> if you want it fast and standards compliant
23:07 <GodTodd> i do...but virc makes me use ie for some fucked up reason...so i have to copy and paste the links instead of clicking
23:07 <GodTodd> :/
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23:07 <GodTodd> i use firefox as a normal browser
23:07 <spidey> use xchat
23:07 <wrtlprnft> GodTodd: change the settings?
23:08 <GodTodd> i've looked for the setting
23:08 <GodTodd> don't see it in virc
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23:08 <spidey> use xchat
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> use Konversation
23:08 <wrtlprnft> use irssi
23:08 <spidey> he's not on linux
23:08 <spidey> are you?
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> that you need to install KDE is only a good thing
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> no, he's not
23:08 <GodTodd> not yet
23:09 <wrtlprnft> use irssi and you won't need to worry about clicking links at all
23:09 <wrtlprnft> you can't
23:09 <wrtlprnft> that's the only thing i dislike irssi for
23:09 <GodTodd> is xchat free?
23:09 <spidey> no
23:09 <GodTodd> i don't pay for chat clients
23:09 <spidey> i have a freeversion though
23:09 <spidey> :)
23:09 <spidey> the last free release >.<
23:10 <spidey> for windows anyways
23:10 <spidey> it's still free on linux
23:10 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/spidey
23:10 <spidey> it's like 3megs
23:10 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: aww, is it really that bad working with me? :(
23:10 * wrtlprnft wouldn't execute something he got from spidey
23:10 <spidey> haha
23:10 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: no, that's the change
23:11 <spidey> ...
23:11 <spidey> what's that supposed to mean?
23:11 <wrtlprnft> that it's not exactly a safe thing
23:11 <spidey> ...
23:13 <GodTodd> hrmm...it's a tar
23:13 <spidey> ya
23:13 <spidey> i compressed it while i was on linux
23:13 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: you've had bad experiences working with me before? or just discussing and hearsay? ;p
23:13 <wrtlprnft> learn to deal with tar.(bz2|gz) or you'll never make a switch to linux
23:13 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: discussing :P
23:14 <GodTodd> nah...i have no problems with tar....just checking to see if i have 7zip or not
23:14 <GodTodd> heh
23:15 * Lucifer_arma thinks konversation is a very nice irc client
23:16 * spidey thinks x-chat is better
23:16 * Luke-Jr thinks all IRC clients suck =p
23:16 * spidey thinks Luke-Jr is a hypocrite
23:16 * Lucifer_arma thinks he's been happier since he put Luke-Jr on his ignore list
23:16 <spidey> haha
23:17 * wrtlprnft thinks IRSSI kicks all other IRC clients' butts
23:17 * Luke-Jr thinks IRSSI only supports 9 channels at once and thus also sucks
23:17 <Luke-Jr> brb
23:17 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: ?!
23:18 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: it does support more
23:18 <GodTodd> if all irc clients suck then what is Luke-Jr doing here?
23:18 <GodTodd> hrmm
23:19 <spidey> that's what i ment by he's a hypocrite
23:19 <spidey> :p
23:19 <GodTodd> i know
23:19 <wrtlprnft> Meta-1, Meta-2, .. Meta-0 - Jump directly between windows 1-10
23:19 <wrtlprnft> Meta-q .. Meta-o - Jump directly between windows 11-19
23:19 <wrtlprnft> /WINDOW <number> - Jump to any window with specified number
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23:19 <GodTodd> i was 'dumbing it down' ;)
23:19 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: how is that limited to 9 windows?
23:20 <wrtlprnft> i count 19 windows that are directly accessible there
23:20 <wrtlprnft> and any number if you use /window
23:20 <wrtlprnft> and of course you can make your own bindings
23:21 <wrtlprnft> GodTodd: all irc clients suck, that's why he's chatting using netcat
23:23 <spidey> lol
23:23 <wrtlprnft> so the only window limitation is in his head and his typing skills
23:27 <wrtlprnft> "all mail clients suck, this one just sucks less"
23:27 <wrtlprnft> though I'm not using mutt
23:28 <GodTodd> that's a pretty big limitation XD
23:32 * GodTodd officially crowns Luke-Jr King of Stupid Generalizations.
23:32 <wrtlprnft> all generalisations suck.
23:34 <GodTodd> i'm unique, just like everybody else
23:34 <wrtlprnft> all people in this channel lie.
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> all of my shit smells!
23:44 <GodTodd> mine does too...like freakin' roses :D
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> sorority girls are stupid!
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> man, I can't wait until this calc class is over and all the snotty UT kids go back to UT and leave us alone
23:52 <spidey> haha
23:53 <spidey> UT sounds familar
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