Log from 2006-07-14:
--- Day changed Fri Jul 14 2006
00:00 <+wrtlprnft> **from everyhing
00:00 <spidey> lies
00:00 <spidey> i can't even remember what i got banned for
00:00 <spidey> but i did
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> haha
00:01 <+wrtlprnft> spidey: tell me when you're finished editing, I'll move that shit to the talk page after
00:01 <spidey> i'm not editing
00:01 <spidey> :p
00:01 <spidey> all i've done is add my name and remove it from the us
00:01 <+wrtlprnft> i thought you wanted to add something, never mind then
00:02 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, done with your word list?
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> nah, leave it there for a little longer and then I'll just delete the whole section
00:02 <luke-jr_> you'd need to ban all Time Warner *and* Earthlink in Kansas City to get rid of me
00:02 <luke-jr_> and even then, I have my ways
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> but AdyLucifer needs to read the policy page before he does any more serious editing
00:03 <+wrtlprnft> i just don't want too many crazy edits on the main page, I'll move the comment stuff, too
00:03 <madmax|pt> people just don't adapt fast in double def
00:03 <spidey> me and max own at double def
00:04 <spidey> don't we :)
00:04 <madmax|pt> i was inner def, and to freak the other guy out i just inverted my def with speed, the guy totally lost it
00:04 <spidey> lol
00:04 <madmax|pt> he start going round and round and... 
00:04 <spidey> boom?
00:04 <madmax|pt> then he said, "i thought you died"
00:04 <madmax|pt> yea boom too
00:05 <madmax|pt> and yes i think we kind of pwn at double def
00:05 <madmax|pt> lol
00:05 -!- Lizz [i=Lizz@wxpp-p-144-138-186-238.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #armagetron
00:05 <spidey> ;D
00:05 <Lizz> morning :/
00:05 <spidey> we haven't got beaten at it yet
00:05 <spidey> ;)
00:05  * spidey pokes Lizz 
00:05  * Lizz bites his poker
00:06 <spidey> O_o
00:06 <Lizz> :P
00:06 <madmax|pt> what's the time there Lizz?
00:06 <spidey> morning
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> some of the weird names didn't make it, I'm going to remove them for now
00:06 <Lizz> its to early for such nonsence :P
00:06 <Lizz> 8am 
00:06 <spidey> k
00:06 <spidey> just post what you're using and i'll use it
00:06  * Lizz ties a bow around spiders poker
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> ok, refresh the page
00:07 <spidey> we need wrtl, max , anjori , and someother to use it to
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: want to use a random name every time you start arma?
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> random colors, too
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> madmax|pt: ?
00:07 <madmax|pt> i like my "M&Ms"
00:07 <madmax|pt> lol
00:07 <Lizz> heh
00:07 <madmax|pt> i could use it sometimes
00:07 <madmax|pt> :D
00:07 <spidey> ,.?'?.,.?'?.,
00:07 <spidey> that isn't to long ?
00:08 <spidey> it is
00:08 <spidey> lol
00:08 <+wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: do you offer random instant chats too?
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a go grab a smoke, but I'll post a tarball real quick with the scripts I've got
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> you should be able to just copy them into your path somewhere and have it work
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: not yet, but it would be nice.  :)
00:08 <spidey> wrtlprnft, make a list of instantchats and you should
00:08 <spidey> i could probably edit lucis script to do it
00:08 <madmax|pt> the scripts edits the config file then runs the game right?
00:09 <+wrtlprnft> you know, have a fixed key for "defense down", but a random chat
00:09 <madmax|pt> -s
00:09 <spidey> mmm
00:09 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/namer.tar.gz  <-- decompress this somewhere in your path
00:09 <Lucifer_arma> then create ~/.armagetronad/var/namefile.txt
00:09 <+wrtlprnft> sec, currently messing with the wiki
00:09 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, actually 
00:09 <spidey> it might not work from them
00:10 <spidey> i had to change some stuff
00:10 <spidey> word="`python /usr/bin/namepicker.py`"
00:10 <spidey> for one
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: actually, I updated the part that depends on the home directory to do os.path.expanduser("~/") instead
00:10 <spidey> because it wouldn't work the otherway
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> ah
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> you needed to chmod namepicker.py +x
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> which should be fine in the tarball I just posted
00:10 <spidey> mm
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> 755 should be the right permissions for that file
00:11 <spidey> well i've done changed it so all i gotta do is bash arma.py
00:11 <luke-jr_> 1777
00:11 <+wrtlprnft> haha
00:11 <+wrtlprnft> but sXid won't work with scripts
00:12 <luke-jr_> that's not sXid
00:12 <+wrtlprnft> sticky?
00:12 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, k got your word file
00:12 <luke-jr_> something liek that
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm a go smoke, then start dinner, so we'll have to go play tonight or something
00:13 <+wrtlprnft> i'll go to bed soon
00:13 <spidey> k
00:13 <Lizz> O.o just found a server where i have 105 ping :D
00:13 <spidey> O_o
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> the one in japan?
00:13 <spidey> wtf,lol
00:13 <Lizz> not japan
00:13 <+wrtlprnft> Lizz: localhost?
00:13 <spidey> which one?
00:13 <Lizz> DAFH or something
00:14 <luke-jr_> that's possible for dialup?
00:14 <spidey> isdn
00:14 <Lizz> thats what i had :D
00:14 <Lizz> come play with me spider
00:14 <spidey> comin
00:14 <luke-jr_> not me?
00:14 <Lizz> 6ay
00:14 <luke-jr_> :(
00:14 <Lizz> yay come too luke
00:15 <Lizz> :)
00:15 <luke-jr_> where
00:15 <Lizz> DAFH i think its called
00:15 <Lizz> something like that
00:15 <spidey> i'm in
00:15 <spidey> hhahahah
00:15 <spidey> that script picked lucifer
00:15 <spidey> xD
00:16 <spidey> 4 rubber lol
00:16 <spidey> Lizz, where ua at?>
00:16 <luke-jr_> actually, think I'm gonna watch X-files instead
00:28 <+wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:International_Tron_World_Cup#Color_useage_.2F_United_States_of_America
00:28 <+wrtlprnft> finally something you can actually somewhat read
00:36 <+wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: thumbnail generation is broken again
00:36 <+wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: probably the wrong permissions on the cache dir
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
00:38 <+wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/International_Tron_World_Cup <-- looks better now imho
00:38 <+wrtlprnft> except for the missing spain flag since the wiki can't resize it
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, maybe I don't have imagemagick installed :)
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> emerging now
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> that reminds me, I need to emerge postfix too so the wiki can send notifications again
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> if I unmask gcc 4.1, how do I get my machine to rebuild the whole system and not keep around old libraries built with earlier gcc?
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
00:44 <+wrtlprnft> emerge -e system && emerge -e world
00:45 <+wrtlprnft> but that takes a looong time
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00:45 <+wrtlprnft> #later tell lu* and then you need to unmerge the old gcc version, and don't forget to switch to the new profile first!
00:45 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
00:46 <+wrtlprnft> and no, luke-jr_, don't say a word until luci is back!
00:50 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
00:50 <armabot> I'm so happy to see you. *kiss*
00:51  * Lucifer_arma kisses armabot
00:51 <+wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: say something
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> something
00:51 <+wrtlprnft> uh, there's a howto somewhere anyways
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> I got part of that
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab, trying to get my gentoo partition to boot
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00:52 <spidey> awe
00:52 <spidey> i was owning you too
00:52 <spidey> Lizz = deadly with a 101 ping
00:52 <spidey> O-o
00:52 <Lizz> omg that was FUN!!!
00:52 <spidey> lol
00:53 <Lizz> it disconnected me spider
00:53 <spidey> sme too
00:53 <Lizz> oooh i luv 101 ping
00:53 <spidey> lol
00:53 <Lizz> pwn du :P
00:53 <+wrtlprnft> #later tell luc* http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_GCC_4.0_Testing_Tips <-- that's for gcc 4.0, dunno if 4.1 is in portage yet
00:53 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
00:53 <Lizz> brb
00:54 <+mkzelda> 4.1 is in portage, as is 4.2.0
00:54 <+mkzelda> i dont suggest 4.2.0 as i cant get boost to compile with it
00:55 <+mkzelda> its an alpha build from a month ago
00:55 <+wrtlprnft> yeah, i'm not that adventurous
00:55 <+mkzelda> this machine has ~400 packages, all w/ 4.2.0 all fine
00:55 <+mkzelda> just boost
00:55 <+mkzelda> seg faults on configure
00:55 <+wrtlprnft> anyways
00:55 <+mkzelda> er
00:55 <+wrtlprnft> #night
00:55 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:55 <+mkzelda> after
00:55 <+wrtlprnft> 1am here
00:56 <+mkzelda> heh
00:56 <+mkzelda> later
00:56 <Lizz> awwwwwwwwwww if only i could host a fort server :(
00:58 <spidey> hahah
00:58 <spidey> i'm putting a normal fortress server up
00:58 <spidey> anyone know the 2.5 rule thing?
00:58 <spidey> wall shrink or something isn't it?
00:58 <Lizz> but waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i want a 101 ping :P
01:00 <Lizz> spider its back up wanna go play again?
01:01 <spidey> sec
01:01 <Lizz> kk
01:06 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: eh?
01:07 <madmax|pt> i think he meant lucifer
01:07 <luke-jr_> Lizz: could use my server
01:08 <Lizz> oooo?
01:08 <Lizz> luke u should come try this server out
01:08 <Lizz> :)
01:09 <Lizz> u 2 maxeeee
01:10 <madmax|pt> err.. me?
01:10 <Lizz> yeah :)
01:10 <madmax|pt> im about to go to bed
01:10 <spidey> mm
01:10 <spidey> i can't figure out what to say on the wiki
01:10 <madmax|pt> this is not GMT+9 you know? :P
01:10 <Lizz> awww bugga ..  lol nvm some other time :)
01:10 <spidey> without saying all but 2 of the U.S. pplayers are dumbfucks
01:10 <Lizz> +10 :P
01:10 <madmax|pt> or that :P
01:10 <Lizz> lol
01:11 <Lizz> 12 11 am there max?
01:11 <madmax|pt> yep...
01:11 <Lizz> ;-)
01:11 <spidey> why aren't you in school!!!!!
01:11 <madmax|pt> o_O
01:11 <Lizz> its the middle of the nite there lol
01:11 <spidey> ggkthnxbbq
01:12 <spidey> so!?!?!
01:12 <Lizz> lmao
01:12 <Lizz> i feel like porridge
01:12  * spidey finds a place to host a teamspeak server
01:13 <Lizz> :)
01:13 <spidey> i would put it on the webserver,but i'm scared to
01:13 <spidey> lol
01:13 <Lizz> lol
01:13 <spidey> it crashes with 2 tron servers running
01:13 <Lizz> mmm
01:13 <spidey> so who knows what it'll do
01:13 <Lizz> blow everything up prolly
01:13 <spidey> mmm
01:13 <spidey> if i could remember my address i'd buy 2 shells
01:13 <spidey> but i can't, lmao
01:13 <Lizz> o.O
01:13 <Lizz> just go down the beach and pick one up
01:14 <spidey> :|
01:14 <Lizz> :P
01:14  * spidey slaps Lizz 
01:14  * Lizz likes it
01:14 <spidey> O_o
01:14 <Lizz> lol
01:14 <spidey> madmax|pt, lizz is calling your name
01:14 <Lizz> "likes it" is maxeees name?
01:14 <madmax|pt> o_O
01:15 <Lizz> O.o
01:16 <Lizz> <~~~~~~~~~ should call madmax , mel gibson
01:16 <madmax|pt> o.O
01:16 <Lizz> u dont kno that film?
01:17 <madmax|pt> that would be funny
01:17 <madmax|pt> i do
01:17 <Lizz> great movie..
01:17 <Lizz> will call ya that.. lol when im under diff nics ull kno its me :P
01:18 <Lizz> brb need coffee
01:18 <madmax|pt> lol
01:18 <madmax|pt> kk
01:19 <spidey> brb 
01:19 <spidey> #insult madmax|pt 
01:19 <armabot> madmax|pt - You are nothing but a thick tongueful of bootless snouts. 
01:19 <spidey> ok now brb
01:23 <madmax|pt> heh
01:23 <spidey> lol
01:23 <spidey> icecream ;x
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01:25 <madmax|pt> 28 degrees @ 0:24 aka 12:24AM
01:25 <armabot> I'm so happy to see you. *kiss*
01:25 <madmax|pt> this is bad
01:25 <spidey> lol
01:26 <spidey> how is it bad?
01:26 <madmax|pt> maybe because it's too DAMN HOT?
01:26 <spidey> when i get the airconditoner in the windor it'll br 28 degrees in my room
01:26 <spidey> HOT!?!?!?!
01:26 <spidey> you must mean celceus
01:26 <Lizz> ewwwwwwwww is only 5C here :D
01:27 <spidey> #g 28c in f
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> ?
01:27 <armabot> 28 degrees Celsius = 82.4 degrees Fahrenheit
01:27 <spidey> that is hot
01:27 <Lizz> yuck too hot
01:27 <madmax|pt> doh
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, ok.  hi armabot.  *kiss*
01:27 <spidey> for 12:24 am
01:27 <madmax|pt> see
01:27  * Lizz is glad she is in winter
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01:27 <madmax|pt> http://weather.edition.cnn.com/weather/intl/forecast.jsp?locCode=LPPT
01:27 <madmax|pt> #weather Lisbon
01:27 <madmax|pt> this aint loaded right?
01:27 <spidey> lol
01:28  * Lizz runs off to tron
01:28 <madmax|pt> guess not
01:28 <madmax|pt> well, good night/morning/day-in-general
01:28 <spidey> #cnn lisbon
01:28 <madmax|pt> o_o
01:29 <spidey> #list
01:29 <armabot> spidey: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
01:29 <spidey> nope
01:29 <spidey> #list news
01:29 <armabot> spidey: add, change, news, old, and remove
01:29 <spidey> #list Praise
01:29 <armabot> spidey: add, change, get, praise, remove, search, and stats
01:29 <spidey> #praise spidey
01:29  * armabot gives spidey the Medal of Not Sucking
01:29 <spidey> :D
01:30 <madmax|pt> thats cheating
01:30 <spidey>      /me gives his team the Medal of Sucking
01:30 <madmax|pt> lol
01:30 <Lizz> nite melG
01:30 <spidey> that's gonna be one of my instant chats
01:30 <madmax|pt> going to bed
01:30 <spidey> cya
01:31 <madmax|pt> wait
01:31 <spidey> ?
01:31 <Lizz> ?
01:31 <madmax|pt> #insult spidey 
01:31 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a weather-bitten assload of acidic gunk. 
01:31 <Lizz> lmao
01:31 <madmax|pt> ok
01:31 <madmax|pt> lol
01:31 <spidey> LOL
01:31 <madmax|pt> gnight
01:31 <Lizz> nite
01:31  * madmax|pt is away: Sleep
01:32 <spidey> #insult madmax|pt 
01:32 <armabot> madmax|pt - You are nothing but a headless coagulation of sausage-snorfling chicken. 
01:32 <Lizz> rofl
01:32 <madmax|pt> i saw that
01:32 <spidey> #insult madmax|pt "<armabot> madmax|pt - You are nothing but a headless coagulation of sausage-snorfling chicken"--owned
01:32 <armabot> madmax|pt <armabot> madmax|pt - You are nothing but a headless coagulation of sausage-snorfling chicken --owned - You are nothing but a half-faced plate of mammering dog. 
01:32 <spidey> well damn
01:32 <madmax|pt> o_O
01:32 <spidey> #later tell madmax|pt "<armabot> madmax|pt - You are nothing but a headless coagulation of sausage-snorfling chicken"--owned
01:32 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.
01:32 <Lizz> heh
01:32 <spidey> k
01:32 <spidey> oh,you're still here :/
01:33 <madmax|pt> lol
01:33 <madmax|pt> now im going
01:33 <Lizz> nite mel
01:33 <spidey> you sure?
01:34 <madmax|pt> yeah, you can do the #later thing at will
01:34 <spidey> lol
01:48 <spidey> mmm
01:48 <spidey> r = 78
01:48 <spidey> g = 17
01:48 <spidey> and b = 114
01:48  * spidey goes to try it
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01:50 <Lucifer_arma> what's a good irc client for gentoo to run in a terminal?
01:50 <spidey> irc client ?
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
01:50 <spidey> irc client....
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> found I have to emerge x still, emerging kde didn't get all of x
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm stuck in a terminal until that's done.  but at least I got the wireless going!
01:50 <spidey> IRC CLIENT!
01:51  * spidey sighs
01:51 <spidey> the name of the program
01:51 <spidey> is irc client
01:51 <spidey> duh!
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> well, I have an irc client installed now, duh, but it really really sucks.
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> no nick list, for one
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> it's old school, that's for sure, heh
01:52 <spidey> lol
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> meanwhile, since I"m in a terminal, no progress report on the x emerge :(
01:53  * Lucifer_arma feels like he fell back into 1990
01:53 <spidey> lol
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> if this thing fires up with twm, I'm gonna scream
01:54 <+mkzelda> spidey, who are the 2 us tronners that arent dumbfucks?
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> in that international tournament, or just in general?
01:55 <spidey> i'm talking about the IT 
01:55 <+mkzelda> oh
01:55 <+mkzelda> hehe
01:55 <spidey> and they are goody and manta
01:55 <+mkzelda> manta is us?
01:55 <spidey> ya
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> california
01:55 <+mkzelda> i always figured elsehwere cause 450 ping all the time
01:55 <spidey> dialup
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> dialup
01:55 <+mkzelda> oh
01:56 <spidey> ok
01:56 <spidey> gotta restart X
01:56 <spidey> maybe
01:56 <spidey> i can't find the mepis os center
01:56 <spidey> grrr
01:57 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: irssi
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> ty luke-jr
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> emerging now
01:58 <luke-jr_> using telnet?
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> nah, some other one I forgot its name lready
01:58 <luke-jr_> heh
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> not irc-client from irc.org
01:58 <luke-jr_> irssi doesn't have a userlist either
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01:58 <luke-jr_> it just shows names when you join
01:58 <+mkzelda> i only heard about this world cup like a couple days ago
01:59 <luke-jr_> BTW, thanks all here for trying X.org 7
01:59 <luke-jr_> I learned to avoid it before I started ;)
02:00 <+mkzelda> whats wrong with it?
02:00 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-112-89-117.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
02:00 <spidey> Composite extension not found
02:00 <spidey> You must use XOrg ? 6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.
02:00 <spidey> Additionally, you need to add a new section to your X config file:
02:00 <spidey> Section "Extensions"
02:00 <spidey> Option "Composite" "Enable"
02:00 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: lol, you haven't paid much attention?
02:00 <spidey> EndSection
02:00 <spidey> that means?
02:00 <+mkzelda> i guess not
02:00 <+mkzelda> seems to work for me
02:00 <+mkzelda> on all my machines
02:00 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: well, for example, Lucifer lacks X now due to it
02:00 <luke-jr_> someone mentioned a significant framerate drop
02:00 <luke-jr_> etc
02:00 <spidey> no
02:01 <spidey> actually
02:01 <spidey> it works
02:01 <+mkzelda> i have a significant framerate increase
02:01 <spidey> it's just apt-get and i guess emerge don't unclude ALL packages
02:01 <luke-jr_> spidey: oh?
02:01 <spidey> but for me when i formatted tot he updated mepis
02:01 <spidey> it comes with 7.0
02:01 <spidey> and
02:01 <spidey> i get 80fps
02:01 <spidey> ;x
02:01 <luke-jr_> you don't format *to* anything
02:01 <+mkzelda> i get ~900fps
02:01 <+mkzelda> :D
02:01 <luke-jr_> except a blank filesystem
02:01 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: 320x240? =p
02:02 <spidey> ok mr techniqual
02:02 <+mkzelda> 1280x1024
02:02 <spidey> you know what i ment
02:02 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: wasn't aware such a card existed
02:02  * spidey goes back to configuring kde
02:02 <+mkzelda> you werent paying much attention
02:02 <+mkzelda> then
02:02 <spidey> hahahahahaha
02:02 <luke-jr_> Matrox?
02:02 <+mkzelda> tainted nvidia
02:02 <luke-jr_> or Intel?
02:02 <luke-jr_> tainted doesn't count >:O
02:02 <+mkzelda> sure it does
02:02 <luke-jr_> nope
02:02 <+mkzelda> yep
02:03 <luke-jr_> immoral and illegal
02:03 <luke-jr_> tho it's the company at fault, but still
02:03 <+mkzelda> omg, im gonna go to jail
02:03 <spidey> LOL
02:03 <+mkzelda> go steal some cable
02:03 <luke-jr_> no, nVidia's gonna pay a fine or settle-- if anyone bothers to finally sue them
02:04 <luke-jr_> too bad they don't violate my copyright
02:04 <luke-jr_> I'd certainly go after them
02:04 <+mkzelda> since it doesnt count, its not illegal or immoral
02:05 <+mkzelda> do you play dvds in linux?
02:05 <+mkzelda> or mp3s?
02:05 <luke-jr_> sure
02:05 <spidey> i don't
02:05 <+mkzelda> ok, then stop talking
02:05 <luke-jr_> no
02:05 <luke-jr_> =p
02:05 <spidey> i burn them then play them on the stereo
02:05 <+mkzelda> its the same thing
02:05 <spidey> does that count?
02:05 <luke-jr_> completely different
02:05 <+mkzelda> if by different you mean same, then ya, totally
02:06 <spidey> luke-jr_, that's like zop saying center attacks are boring for the team,but double grinding owns
02:06 <luke-jr_> nope
02:06 <+mkzelda> in order to have a player that plays dvds, you must apply for the css code
02:06 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: or just use existing CSS code
02:06 <+mkzelda> there is no open legal decss
02:07 <luke-jr_> I don't care much about legal
02:07 <+mkzelda> this has already been to courts
02:07 <+mkzelda> sure you do
02:07 <luke-jr_> nope
02:07 <+mkzelda> you just blasted me for it
02:07 <+mkzelda> only when things pertain to you is it okay
02:07 <+mkzelda> everyone must live by your code
02:07 <luke-jr_> No, I was blasting nVidia for their immorality, and mentioning the legality because it matters to more people
02:07 <Lucifer_arma> I don't care about either, I want fast graphics
02:07 <+mkzelda> so quick to judge, but will admit doing exactly the same things
02:08 <luke-jr_> lol
02:08 <+mkzelda> i know i own a dvd rom and a computer and im gonna play my dvds
02:08 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: nope, I don't use immoral software unless forced to
02:08 <+mkzelda> i know i own a video card and im gonna use it
02:08 <Lucifer_arma> but for decoding, the patent is clear, a free license has been given
02:08 <Lucifer_arma> libmad is even gpl.  It's encoding mp3s that you have to get a patent license for
02:09 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
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02:09 <luke-jr_> Patents are unjust laws, and thus have no binding
02:09 <nemostultae> only in Europe.
02:10 <+mkzelda> Do as i say not as i do
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02:11 <Lucifer_arma> re
02:11 <Lucifer_arma> y'all say something
02:11 <nemostultae> I'm speechless.
02:11 <Lucifer_arma> ty
02:11 <luke-jr_> Patents are unjust laws, and thus have no binding
02:11 <spidey> you shouldn't have said anything 
02:12 <luke-jr_> pfft
02:13 <+mkzelda> so why is it that my 900fps dont count? they seem to be right there in the top right of the screen, counting
02:13 <luke-jr_> you're using immoral drivers
02:14 <+mkzelda> ?
02:14 <+mkzelda> im also breathing air
02:14 <spidey> #dict immoral
02:14 <armabot> spidey: wn, devils, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Immoral \Im*mor"al\, a. [Pref. im- not + moral: cf. F. immoral.] Not moral; inconsistent with rectitude, purity, or good morals; contrary to conscience or the divine law; wicked; unjust; dishonest; vicious; licentious; as, an immoral man; an immoral deed. Syn: Wicked; sinful; criminal; vicious; unjust; dishonest; depraved; impure; (6 more messages)
02:14 <Lucifer_arma> that's like saying that sex before marriage means you're still a virgin
02:14 <+mkzelda> u wanna answer the question?
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> licentious is a cool word
02:15 <+mkzelda> wow i didnt realize god said thou shalt not nvidia
02:15 <spidey> lol
02:15 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: no, it's like says sex outside of marriage doesn't count as having sex
02:16 <Lucifer_arma> right, either way you're fucked
02:16 <+mkzelda> why do you support exactly what someone says
02:16 <+mkzelda> as if you're the first to say it?
02:16 <+mkzelda> and never actually answer anything?
02:17 <luke-jr_> depending on the definition used for words, rephrasing can be more specific
02:17 <+mkzelda> you said hte same thing he said, only to your benefit, but somehow it wasnt valid when he said it?
02:17 <+mkzelda> yes, but you're agreeing w/ someone who was using a counter-arguement, which counters yourself
02:17 <luke-jr_> just because you haven't had real sex doesn't mean you're a virgin
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> but virgin means "unmarried"
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> so if you have sex before you're married, you're still a virgin
02:18 <luke-jr_> if you define virgin as unmarried, sure
02:18 <luke-jr_> most people don't
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> #dict virgin
02:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: gazetteer, foldoc, gcide, easton, wn, jargon, moby-thes, and gaz-place responded: gazetteer: Virgin, UT (town, FIPS 80530) Location: 37.20083 N, 113.19852 W Population (1990): 229 (82 housing units) Area: 3.2 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water); gcide: Virgin \Vir"gin\, v. i. To act the virgin; to be or keep chaste; -- followed by it. See {It}, 5. [Obs.] "My true lip (16 more messages)
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> #more
02:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: hath virgined it e'er since [that kiss]." --Shak. [1913 Webster]; jargon: virgin adj. Unused; pristine; in a known initial state. "Let's bring up a virgin system and see if it crashes again." (Esp. useful after contracting a {virus} through {SEX}.) Also, by extension, buffers and the like within a program that have not yet been used; foldoc: virgin Unused; pristine; in a known (15 more messages)
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> #more
02:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: initial state. "Let's bring up a virgin system and see if it crashes again." (Especially useful after contracting a {virus} through {SEX}.) Also, by extension, buffers and the like within a program that have not yet been used. [{Jargon File}] (1994-11-30); easton: Virgin In a prophecy concerning our Lord, Isaiah (7:14) says, "A virgin [R.V. marg., 'the virgin'] shall conceive, and (14 more messages)
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> #more
02:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: bear a son" (comp. Luke 1:31-35). The people of the land of Zidon are thus referred to by Isaiah (23:12), "O thou oppressed virgin, daughter of Zidon;" and of the people of Israel, Jeremiah (18:13) says, "The virgin of Israel hath done a very horrible thing."; gaz-place: Virgin, UT -- U.S. town in Utah Population (2000): 394 Housing Units (2000): 170 Land area (2000): 11.918820 sq. (13 more messages)
02:19 <Lizz> thats too much to read lol
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> keep up girl
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> #more
02:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: miles (30.869601 sq. km) Water area (2000): 0.000000 sq. miles (0.000000 sq. km) Total area (2000): 11.918820 sq. miles (30.869601 sq. km) FIPS code: 80530 Located within: Utah (UT), FIPS 49 Location: 37.201620 N, 113.189617 W ZIP Codes (1990): Note: some ZIP codes may be omitted esp. for suburbs. Headwords: Virgin, UT Virgin; wn: virgin adj 1: being used or worked for the first (12 more messages)
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> #more
02:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: time; "virgin wool" 2: in a state of sexual virginity; "pure and vestal modesty"; "a spinster or virgin lady"; "men have decreed that their women must be pure and virginal" [syn: {pure}, {vestal}, {virginal}, {virtuous}] n 1: a person who has never had sex 2: (astrology) a person who is born while the sun is in Virgo [syn: {Virgo}] 3: the sixth sign of the zodiac; the sun is in this (11 more messages)
02:19 <Lizz> good god loocee... O.O
02:19 <luke-jr_> ttyl
02:19 <spidey> hahah
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> ah, a person who is born while the sun is in virgo
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> that's what, October?
02:19 <+mkzelda> so, you're not going to answer?
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> or is it September?
02:20 <+mkzelda> still...?
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: quiet, I'm running him off
02:20 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: there's no unanswered questions
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> #more
02:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: sign from about August 23 to September 22 [syn: {Virgo}, {Virgo the Virgin}]; gcide: Virgin \Vir"gin\, a. 1. Being a virgin; chaste; of or pertaining to a virgin; becoming a virgin; maidenly; modest; indicating modesty; as, a virgin blush. "Virgin shame." --Cowley. [1913 Webster] Innocence and virgin modesty . . . That would be wooed, and unsought be won. --Milton. [1913 Webster] 2. (10 more messages)
02:20 <+mkzelda> there is the same unanswered question
02:20 <+mkzelda> i asked twice, which was me asking about a comment u made, that you've yet to support
02:20  * spidey loves this channel
02:20 <spidey> xD
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> #more
02:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Pure; undefiled; unmixed; fresh; new; as, virgin soil; virgin gold. "Virgin Dutch." --G. W. Cable. [1913 Webster] The white cold virgin snow upon my heart. --Shak. [1913 Webster] A few ounces of mutton, with a little virgin oil. --Landor. [1913 Webster] 3. Not yet pregnant; impregnant. --Milton. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Virgin \Vir"gin\, n. [L. virgo, -inis: cf. OF. virgine, virgene, (9 more messages)
02:20 <+mkzelda> i can copy paste if necessary
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> there you go, Not yet pregnant
02:20 <luke-jr_> go ahead, I'll copy and paste my answer
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> that's good enough for me
02:20  * Lizz gathers theres an arguement going on
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> I AM A FUCKING VIRGIN
02:20 <luke-jr_> ROFL
02:21 <Lizz> in ur dreams
02:21 <nemostultae> F4
02:21 <+mkzelda> ok, but this time copy paste an answer to the question, not an answer to something else
02:21 <luke-jr_> Ctrl-L
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> hi Lizz  :)
02:21 <spidey>  /cls
02:21  * Lucifer_arma goes back to his bass
02:21 <Lizz> hiya looceee :)
02:21 <luke-jr_> cls is qbasic
02:21 <spidey> cls clears the screen
02:21 <spidey> duh
02:21 <+mkzelda> so why do my fps dont count?
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> they're not counting numbers?
02:22 <+mkzelda> haha
02:22 <luke-jr_> because you're using immoral drivers to achieve them
02:22 <spidey> mkzelda, luke can't count past 10
02:22 <+mkzelda> haha
02:22 <luke-jr_> just like overclocking a CPU for a speed test doesn't count
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> no he didn't, he took the derivative of the frames function with respect to time and got fps
02:22 <luke-jr_> unless you're testing overclocking speed of course
02:22 <+mkzelda> ooh wow
02:22 <+mkzelda> haha
02:23 <+mkzelda> i can never tell if you're serious
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> just wait, next he's going to take the derivative of fps and give you something that doesn't make sense
02:23 <spidey> lol
02:23 <luke-jr_> actually, that would be some kind of acceleration
02:23 <luke-jr_> which in theory should be 0
02:23 <+mkzelda> Why does using immoral drivers to achieve higher fps not count?
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> no, in theory it should be a constant
02:23 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: it's not an acceptable means to the goal
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> 0 would be nice and steady, but any constant is fine
02:24 <+mkzelda> says who?
02:24 <+mkzelda> you?
02:24 <spidey> so,when i used windows i used a custom driver for my monitor/on-board gfx and increase fps by 20
02:24 <nemostultae> I prefer to call it k.
02:24 <spidey> that didn't count?
02:24 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: What video card improves its framerate over time?
02:24 <luke-jr_> spidey: nothing counts in windows
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  forgive me, I thought the goal here was to show how fast his computer was?
02:24 <+mkzelda> haha
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: well, actually, mine's a negative constant, framerate decreases with time
02:24 <spidey> luke-jr_, really? it doesn't? 
02:24 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: strange
02:24 <luke-jr_> spidey: nope :)
02:24 <spidey> then why does my windows box do x2 the load that my nix box does?
02:25 <luke-jr_> spidey: that's why your opinion doesn't count
02:25 <spidey> because it doesn't count eg?
02:25 <spidey> eh?
02:25 <luke-jr_> LOL
02:25 <spidey> your opinion obviously doesn't count :)
02:25 <spidey> you're outnumbered :p
02:25 <luke-jr_> majority does not the truth make
02:25 <+mkzelda> Who says its an unacceptable means to a goal?
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's why catholics are all WRONG WRONG WRONG
02:25 <spidey> majority doesn't make the truth you mean?
02:26 <luke-jr_> NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r7: task do_package: started
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't count,, it's a cvs version
02:26 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: Catholics are a minority
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> since it doesn't count, you still have to install another glibc afterwards
02:26 <luke-jr_> do not
02:26 <+mkzelda> yea
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter if all your programs work fine with the cvs version, that doesn't count
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> you need an official release
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02:27 <luke-jr_> glibc doesn't (didn't?) have an official release
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's not my problem
02:27 <luke-jr_> unless they started doing those againj
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's not an acceptable means to the goal
02:27 <+mkzelda> thats immoral
02:27 <spidey> haha
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> it'll cause your system to be unstable
02:27 <luke-jr_> IRC is immoral too
02:28 <+mkzelda> this conversation doesnt count
02:28 <spidey> and standard IM ?
02:28 <luke-jr_> especially #anime
02:28 <luke-jr_> nope, it certainly doesn't
02:28 <luke-jr_> all ops in #anime are going to hell
02:28 <spidey> define doesn't count
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> did they kick you again?
02:28 <spidey> lol
02:29 <luke-jr_> doesn't count -- nVidia and #anime
02:29 <spidey> so
02:29 <+mkzelda> if everyone in heaven is like luke-jr_, i know where i'll choose my final vacation
02:29 <spidey> luke-jr_, doesn't count either?
02:29 <luke-jr_> only non-ops in #anime go to heaven
02:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'll be glad to see you there, mkzelda 
02:29 <spidey> seeing as you just reverse a sentence and call it a answer :p
02:29 <+mkzelda> why not? he does it every time
02:29 <Lucifer_arma> answer a sentence and call it a reverse?
02:30 <+mkzelda> its like watching jeopardy
02:30 <luke-jr_> reverse a call and answer it with a sentence?
02:30 <spidey> no, use a reverse sentence from the question and call it a answer
02:30 <luke-jr_> or sentence it to an answer?
02:30 <+mkzelda> or even the same sentence by the opposing debater
02:30 <luke-jr_> is there an opposition? I thought we all agreed I was right
02:31 <+mkzelda> are you really serious?
02:31 <spidey> haha
02:31 <luke-jr_> ROFL
02:31 <luke-jr_> I haven't been serious for a while
02:31 <luke-jr_> you would have figured that out if you /joined #anime
02:31 <spidey> O_o
02:32 <luke-jr_> lol
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> agreed luke-jr_ was right?
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> feel the ground.
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02:32 <Lucifer_arma> is it cold?
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> does it feel like hell has frozen over yet?
02:32 <spidey> it's wet
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> re nemostultae 
02:32 <spidey> just rained here
02:32 <nemostultae> re
02:32 <spidey> so ya,it's cold :p
02:33 <luke-jr_> spidey and mkzelda are going to hell! =p
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> what about me?
02:33 <luke-jr_> you're not an op in #anime
02:33 <spidey> you're already there
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> I think if God was going to take this judgement thing seriously, he'd put in heaven
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> so I can experience eternal torment
02:34 <spidey> O_o
02:34  * spidey thinks luke-jr_ doesn't mean everything he says,he just says it to cause a argument
02:34 <luke-jr_> liar
02:34 <spidey> who you or me?
02:34 <luke-jr_> you don't really think that
02:34 <spidey> i do too
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> I think tht too
02:35 <luke-jr_> nope
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> here's an important question
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> why won't freeglut build?
02:35 <spidey> what's that?
02:35 <luke-jr_> wtf is that
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> and can I finish emerging X without it?
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> glut is a toolkit for doing stuff with windows
02:35 <+mkzelda> freeglut is deprecated
02:35 <luke-jr_> pfft, who needs windows
02:35 <luke-jr_> or any GUI
02:36 <luke-jr_> we got that whole brain technology now
02:36 <+mkzelda> glut is successor
02:36 <+mkzelda> one blocks the other
02:36 <spidey> who needs gui?
02:36 <spidey> tron does :p
02:36 <+mkzelda> and you can finish x without it
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> so what should I install?
02:36 <luke-jr_> spidey: nah
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> media-libs/glut ?
02:37 <spidey> ya,i'd like to see a commandline version of tron,your bike'd be a "/" and your tail would be "...."
02:37 <spidey> pwn
02:37 <+mkzelda> yes
02:37 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: just pretend it's there
02:37 <luke-jr_> spidey: the game itself isn't a UI
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: I tried that, mesa-tools or whatever didn't build
02:37 <luke-jr_> only the menus are
02:37 <spidey> oh god
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> that's not true
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> UI = User Interface
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> so everything you see belongs to me
02:38 <spidey> LOL
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> and everything you hear comes out of my ass
02:38 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you only need mesa if you don't have 3D hardware
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> er
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's not what I meant to say
02:38 <luke-jr_> lol
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> UI = User Interface
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> so everything you see is UI
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> everything you hear is UI
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> all that you touch, and that you feel
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> all that you buy, beg borrow, or steal
02:38 <luke-jr_> nah, it needs to have an interface to be a UI
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> and all that is mine
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> and all that is yours
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> and all that is err
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> never could remember that song
02:39 <+mkzelda> all thats become
02:39 <+mkzelda> and everything under the sun
02:39 <luke-jr_> crawls on fours?
02:39 <spidey> THIS LITTLE LIGHT OF MINE
02:39 <spidey> I'M GONNA LET IT SHINE!
02:39 <+mkzelda> the sun is eclipsed by the moon
02:40 <luke-jr_> spidey: my computer has *two* lights
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> thanks, mkzelda, that got it going again
02:40 <spidey> oh ya
02:40 <spidey> mine has 4
02:40 <spidey> what'd ya point?
02:40 <spidey> techniqually
02:40 <+mkzelda> :)
02:40 <spidey> mine has 6
02:40 <spidey> what's ya point
02:40 <luke-jr_> technically mine has 4
02:40 <luke-jr_> I lied
02:40 <luke-jr_> but I don't let 2 of them shine
02:40 <spidey> ACTUALLY
02:40 <spidey> mine has....7
02:41 <spidey> the nic card has a light
02:41 <spidey> i have 2 neon blue lights
02:41 <spidey> the busy and green lights
02:41 <spidey> then the cd/dvd burner
02:41 <spidey> s
02:41 <luke-jr_> crap
02:41 <spidey> if you count the light on the mobo it has 8
02:42 <luke-jr_> I should put a NIC card in
02:42 <luke-jr_> maybe 2 NIC card cards
02:42 <Lizz> got dark side of the moon stuck in my head now       
02:43 <Lizz> eclipse was off that LP wasnt it :/
02:44 <Lizz> must be
02:44  * Lizz goes looking
02:45 <luke-jr_> spidey: what does NIC stand for?
02:47 <spidey> network interface card
02:47 <luke-jr_> ok, now say you have a "NIC card" expanded fully
02:47  * Lucifer_arma SCREAMS
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> I HATE TWM!
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> er
02:47 <Lizz> o.O
02:48 <Lizz> everytime u guys go all techie talk i have to google ..<
02:48 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: twm owns you
02:48 <Lizz> had to good NIC n TWM >.< lol
02:48 <Lizz> google* erm
02:48 <luke-jr_> does google find twm?
02:48 <+mkzelda> thats like the Windows 2000 boot screen that says 'built on NT Technology"
02:48 <Lizz> ya
02:48 <+mkzelda> but what does the T in NT stand for?
02:49 <+mkzelda> Built on New Technology Technology
02:49  * Lizz googles
02:49 <Lizz> yup lol
02:51 <spidey> Metal  	Crystal  	Deuterium  	Energy  	  
02:51 <spidey> 	1.118.700 	653.385 	146.833 	48/0
02:51 <spidey> for you lizz
02:51 <spidey> xD
02:51 <+mkzelda> damn, friend's wife calls me asking where he is
02:51 <+mkzelda> crazy bitty
02:51 <Lizz> LOL spider
02:51 <luke-jr_> spidey: ok, now say you have a "NIC card" expanded fully
02:51 <Lizz> twm was created by Tom LaStrange
02:51 <+mkzelda> <spidey> I have a "NIC Card" expanded fully
02:52 <luke-jr_> Lizz: was it?
02:52 <Lizz> yup lol
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> yay
02:52 <luke-jr_> I use TWM on  :1
02:52 <luke-jr_> or maybe is :2
02:52 <luke-jr_> its*
02:52 <Lizz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twm
02:53 <Lizz> even tho i google ur techie talk i still dont bloody understand a word lmao
02:54 <luke-jr_> Lizz: twm supports title bars!
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02:54 <Lizz> ooh yeah of course.. :/
02:54 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
02:54  * Lizz opens the door and waves goodbye to loocee
02:54 <Lizz> oh lol
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> kde is running, yay
02:55 <luke-jr_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Twm-screenshot-20050401.png
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> emerging konversation now
02:55 <Lizz> aaaaah ok i got it luke
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> but I had to switch to my running x session :)
02:56 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: screen
02:56  * Lucifer_arma SCREAMS again
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> oh wait, you said screen
02:57  * Lizz puts ear muffs on
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> so, how do I get the nvidia driver going, mkzelda ?
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> I'm on nv right now :)
02:58 <+mkzelda> emerge nvidia-glx
02:58 <+mkzelda> which will pull nvidia-kernel
02:58 <+mkzelda> and optionally, emerge nvidia-settings
02:58 <spidey> haha
02:58 <spidey> my grandma man
02:59 <spidey> this guy 3 times my size came asking to use the phone,so she had me answer the door and everything
02:59 <spidey> saying she couldn't do anything if it was a robber
02:59 <luke-jr_> nvidia-glx/kernel won't work with latest X.org =p
02:59 <spidey> this guy's 3 TIMES my size,i'd have to jump to reach him :/
02:59 <+mkzelda> you must mask a few things luci
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> what do I need to mask?
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> or, got a link?  :)
03:00 <+mkzelda> ill pm it...
03:00 <luke-jr_> not unmask?
03:00 <+mkzelda> no, mask
03:00 <+mkzelda> newest xorg
03:00 <+mkzelda> as u said, it wont work
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> this is a new installation that got the 7.0 default
03:00 <+mkzelda> with nvidia
03:00 <+mkzelda> or ati
03:00 <luke-jr_> NOTE: package busybox-1.01-r12: task do_compile: started
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> is there a package for the nforce chipset?
03:03 <+mkzelda> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_amd64_1.0-0310.html
03:03 <+mkzelda> i havent used that though
03:03 <+mkzelda> and thats amd64
03:03 <+mkzelda> i use whats in kernel
03:03 <Lizz> god dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why are men so dam complicated >.<
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll try to get sound and stuff working without it first and see how that goes
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> we aren't?
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> she just read her backbuffer, I'll bet
03:03 <Lizz> u are.. im gonna become a lesbian i think >.<
03:04 <+mkzelda> http://www.mkzelda.com/package.mask
03:04 <+mkzelda> all the packages after the first two are the VIDEO_CARDS= and INPUT_DEVICES=
03:05 <+mkzelda> and the newer versions depend on xorg-x11-7.1
03:05 <luke-jr_> Lizz: then you'll go to hell
03:05 <luke-jr_> Lizz: so I wouldn't recommend
03:05 <Lizz> who cars lol.. 
03:05 <spidey> luke-jr_, in a seat right beside you?
03:05 <Lizz> cares*
03:05 <luke-jr_> Lizz: you will if/when you get there
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> An error occurred while loading http://www.mkzelda.com/package.mask:
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> Could not connect to host www.mkzelda.com
03:06 <Lizz> meh.. better than trying to figure out mens brains >.<
03:06 <+mkzelda> dns error?
03:06 <luke-jr_> Lizz: could be a nun =p
03:06 <spidey> x2 for wimens
03:06 <spidey> womens*
03:06 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: that doesn't look like DNS
03:06 <luke-jr_> no, DNS is fine
03:06 <+mkzelda> i just followed the link
03:06 <Lizz> good idea luke.. ill join the "nuns of the destrution of men" order
03:07 <luke-jr_> just the host is down
03:07 <luke-jr_> telnet: connect to address 64.111.102.171: Connection refused
03:07 <luke-jr_> ok, not down... just not listening on port 80
03:07 <+mkzelda> odd im using it right now
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know man, google responds
03:07 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: maybe you're on the LAN?
03:08 <+mkzelda> hardly
03:08 <+mkzelda> unless cali is on lan w/ nc
03:08 <+mkzelda> but now its down for me too
03:08 <luke-jr_> lol
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> brb
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03:08 <+mkzelda> weird
03:08 <luke-jr_> maybe he rigged it so it *looks* like it's working (to you, so you pay him), but he doesn't need to put out the bandwidth
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03:08 <armabot> I'm so happy to see you. *kiss*
03:08 <luke-jr_> wtf
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> back
03:08 <Lizz> o.O
03:08 <+mkzelda> well ill copy paste then...
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> konversation :)
03:09 <luke-jr_> oh, it doesn't work otherwise?
03:09  * Lucifer_arma kisses armabot
03:09 <Lizz> O.O
03:09 <luke-jr_> ROFL
03:09 <+mkzelda> luci, do u care if i pm you ~20 lines?
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> nah, only problem is I'll hav eto trim out timestamps and crap
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
03:09 <+mkzelda> oh yea
03:09  * luke-jr_ kisses Lizz 
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't look like I can temporarily disable the nicknames and crap
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> just send the file to me, can you do that?
03:10 <+mkzelda> nat issues
03:10 <+mkzelda> bnc'd irc too
03:10 <+mkzelda> doubt that
03:10 <+mkzelda> oh
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> zip it and put it on the wiki?
03:10 <+mkzelda> they're rebooting the server
03:11 <luke-jr_> don't think bnc would affect it
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh
03:11 <luke-jr_> ...
03:11 <+mkzelda> i was ssh'd in and it just kicked me
03:11 <Lizz> lower luke *grins evily*
03:11 <luke-jr_> Lizz: j/k btw
03:11 <Lizz> bugga :P
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> #herald add Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
03:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: I can't find Lucifer_arma: in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work.
03:12 <luke-jr_> hah
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> #herald add Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
03:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: I can't find Lucifer_arma: in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work.
03:12 <+mkzelda> A once-a-day HIV treatment combining three drugs in one pill, has been licensed for the first time by the US Food and Drug Administration.
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> #herald add "Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*"
03:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: I can't find Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss* in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work.
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> #herald add Lucifer_arma "Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*"
03:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
03:13 <luke-jr_> FDA sucks
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> are they immoral?
03:13 <+mkzelda> they're immoral
03:13 <luke-jr_> yep
03:13 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.com/luke_jr.htm
03:13 <luke-jr_> it's a dash, not an underscore
03:13  * Lizz is bored and runs around the room naked
03:14 <Lucifer_arma> if you're going to keep doing that, you're going to need to post a pic somewhere
03:14 <Lizz> ok
03:14 <luke-jr_> spidey: invalid HTML too
03:14 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.com/luke-jr.htm
03:14 <Lucifer_arma> you wouldn't want us to get images of really large women running around unless you are a really large woman, right?
03:14 <Lizz> we need a nice silver pole in here lol
03:15 <Lizz> LOL loocee
03:15  * Lucifer_arma has to go cook dinner now
03:15 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: what's your wife's #?
03:15 <Lizz> yum bring me back some plz lol
03:15  * luke-jr_ dumps his bowl of salad on Lizz 
03:15 <Lizz> lmao @ luke
03:16 <Lizz> yum i luv salad thx :P
03:16 <Lizz> ooh seeing im naked does that make me a human plate?? o.O
03:16 <luke-jr_> wtf?
03:16 <Lizz> lmao
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: same as mine
03:17 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: which is?
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: same as my wife's
03:17 <luke-jr_> ...
03:17 <luke-jr_> the #
03:17 <Lizz> heh
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> I don't give my number to known psychos in irc channels
03:18 <luke-jr_> how about unknown psychos?
03:18  * Lucifer_arma found no meat thawed
03:18 <luke-jr_> like if I use /nick
03:18 <Lizz> arent u only 20 luke?
03:18 <luke-jr_> Lizz: 21, why?
03:18 <Lizz> pfft.. too young :P
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> 21 and thinks he knows everything, that is
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> can't forget that qualifier
03:18 <+mkzelda> Lucifer_arma, http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/87512
03:19 <luke-jr_> not everything
03:19 <luke-jr_> just more than you
03:19 <luke-jr_> ;p
03:19 <Lizz> LOL
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> aha, thank you.  I put that in /etc/packages.mask right?
03:19 <luke-jr_> and then reinstall, yes
03:19 <+mkzelda> in /etc/portage
03:20 <+mkzelda> in /etc/portage/packages.mask
03:20 <+mkzelda> in /etc/portage/package.mask
03:20  * luke-jr_ yawns
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> package.mask or packages.mask?  ;)
03:20 <+mkzelda> singular
03:20 <luke-jr_> neither
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> got it
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> now I just emerge nvidia-glx?
03:21 <+mkzelda> yes
03:21 <luke-jr_> bs
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> ok, doing it, thanks.  Says there's only two packages to emerge
03:21 <luke-jr_> no rly?
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: it's not immoral if I can install it with emerge
03:21 <luke-jr_> you forgot -e
03:22 <luke-jr_> just like win32-codecs
03:22 <Lizz> http://www.fallin-angels.com/luke-jr.htm
03:22 <Lizz> lmao
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> emerge -e my-wifes-bra
03:22 <luke-jr_> wtf?
03:22 <Lizz> rofl
03:22  * spidey watches
03:22 <luke-jr_> you're wearing a bra
03:22 <luke-jr_> ?
03:22  * Lizz blames someone else
03:23 -!- spidey is now known as someone_else
03:23 <someone_else> -NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else
03:23 <someone_else> O_o
03:23 <Lizz> ooo need a pic of loocee in a bra
03:23 <Lizz> heh spider
03:24 <+mkzelda> Lucifer_arma, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
03:24 <luke-jr_> ?                vvhusrfgkjngfrs
03:24 <luke-jr_>                          llllllllllllllllllllllllllllll    
03:25  * Lizz googles that
03:25 <Lizz> Your search - vvhusrfgkjngfrs - did not match any documents. >.<
03:26 <luke-jr_> fdddddddddddddd
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't take it off me, I took it off her
03:27 <luke-jr_> you installed it
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> on her?
03:27 <luke-jr_> my wife doesn't often wear one
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's immoral
03:27 <luke-jr_> nah
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> besides, she doesn't count.  Her husband's a people-hater
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> she's gotta be sick
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> needs medication
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's immodest
03:28 <luke-jr_> she says cuz it isn't comfortable
03:28 <Lizz> heh
03:28 <luke-jr_> she wears them in public
03:28 <luke-jr_> which is rare
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> boobs aren't supposed to be comfortable
03:28 <Lizz> *smirks*
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> if god wanted women to be comfortable, he wouldn't have hung 20 lbs of flesh from their chest to begin with
03:28 <Lizz> good pillows to im told
03:28 <Lizz> tho*
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> and god never makes mistakes...
03:29 <luke-jr_> Lizz: indeed
03:29 <Lizz> ;)
03:29 <Lizz> im glad i have boobs.. men are fascinated by them :)
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> I've had too many fights with babies over boobs to find them all that fascinating anymore, sorry
03:30 <Lizz> LOL
03:30 <Lizz> when ur kids get older the fascination will come back ;-)
03:31 <Lizz> u have toddlers yes??
03:32 <luke-jr_> Lizz: ...................
03:32 <luke-jr_> that's a bit disturbing
03:32 <Lizz> ?
03:32 <Lizz> what?
03:33 <luke-jr_> it certainly looked like you were implying Lucifer_arma would be fascinated with his kids in a bad wayu
03:33 <Lizz> what i meant was.. when ur kids are young.. well.. its stressful.. but when they are older u have more time to urselves
03:34 <luke-jr_> you mean when you reach menopause?
03:34 <luke-jr_> and you can send the grandkids home?
03:34 <Lizz> b4 that luke
03:34 <Lizz> im not that old yet :P
03:34 <luke-jr_> before that, you still have kids
03:35 <luke-jr_> =p
03:35 <Lizz> yes.. but as they get older and more independent the pressure is off
03:35 <luke-jr_> just cuz the oldest might be less time consuming doesn't mean the twentieth or so won't be
03:35 <Lizz> thats true.. but u will have way more patience and u let things slide the more u have
03:36 <Lizz> the second child is easier than the first and so on
03:37 <Lizz> younger kids are tiring... older arent so much
03:37 <luke-jr_> but before menopause, the youngest will always be tiring =p
03:37 <Lizz> i dont find that
03:37 <Lizz> :P
03:38 <luke-jr_> ...
03:38 <Lizz> ...
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03:46 <spidey> ...
03:49 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/snapshot2.png
03:49 <spidey> ;x i love kde
03:49 <spidey> remind me later to rm everything i don't use from my webserver
03:51 <Lizz> *reminds spider*
03:53 <luke-jr_> spidey: you're moving to mine anyway, right? =p
03:54 <spidey> why? when i can even host a armaserver  on this one xD
03:54 <luke-jr_> =p
03:54 <luke-jr_> could host it on mine
03:54 <luke-jr_> tho I'm trying to find a colocated VoIP server
03:54 <luke-jr_> which would have better ping
03:54 <spidey> could it do 16 people with all <150 pings?
03:55 <luke-jr_> eg, 20-40
03:55 <luke-jr_> well, anything over 100 is really bad for VoIP ;)
03:55 <spidey> this server's on a 100mbit connection....i tested it with scp from a 1gbit server
03:55 <spidey> it downloads at 11.04mb/s
03:55 <luke-jr_> that's bandwidth, not latency
03:56 <spidey> yes,but it has nice pings too :)
03:56 <spidey> wizz's ping is even nice O_o
03:56 <luke-jr_> relatively
03:56 <spidey> 290-310
03:57 <spidey> that's good for her :p
03:57 <spidey> manta has a 266 ping
03:57 <spidey> that's awesome for him
03:57 <spidey> lol
03:57 <luke-jr_> Lizz: hey, ping 66.246.220.19
03:58 <Lizz> ?
03:58 <luke-jr_> ...
03:58 <luke-jr_> open a console and type: ping 66.246.220.19
03:58 <spidey> --- 66.246.220.19 ping statistics ---
03:58 <spidey> 7 packets transmitted, 7 packets received, 0% packet loss
03:58 <spidey> round-trip min/avg/max = 74.8/80.3/83.6 ms
03:59 <+mkzelda> do you want me to stop?
03:59 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: ...
03:59 <+mkzelda> :D
03:59 <spidey> ?
03:59 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: paste results =p
03:59 <+mkzelda> 23 packets transmitted, 23 received, 0% packet loss, time 21996ms
03:59 <+mkzelda> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 28.972/31.545/38.515/2.258 ms
04:00 <luke-jr_> that's pretty nice
04:00 <spidey> heh
04:00 <Lizz> ok did that
04:00 <spidey> now paste your results lizz
04:00 <luke-jr_> Lizz: what ping?
04:00 <spidey> copy/paste
04:00 <spidey> mkzelda, ping fallin-angels.com
04:01 <Lizz> um
04:01 <+mkzelda> 20 packets transmitted, 20 received, 0% packet loss, time 18997ms
04:01 <+mkzelda> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 45.262/50.973/56.870/3.305 ms
04:01 <luke-jr_> omg... they have the rdns on that IP = .
04:01 <Lizz> Ping statistics for 66.246.220.19:
04:01 <Lizz>     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
04:01 <Lizz> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
04:01 <Lizz>     Minimum = 293ms, Maximum = 303ms, Average = 298ms
04:01 <Lizz> is that what u want?
04:02 <+mkzelda> yes
04:02 <luke-jr_> guess 290-310 is the lowest Lizz can gt
04:02 <spidey> ya
04:02 <luke-jr_> get
04:02 <spidey> she's on isdn
04:02 <+mkzelda> luke-jr_, u have a server on that ip?
04:02 <spidey> so she only gets 12kb/s down and i forget up
04:02 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: not mine
04:02 <+mkzelda> :(
04:02 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: that's the kind of goal I'm aiming for
04:02 <spidey> luke-jr_, who's ?
04:02 <luke-jr_> spidey: VoipJet
04:02 <Lizz> 128kb/s*
04:02 <+mkzelda> yea i'd like 28-38
04:03 <+mkzelda> 31 avg
04:03 <luke-jr_> heh
04:03 <spidey> i only get 80....
04:03 <spidey> :/
04:03 <+mkzelda> i dont get that on lan
04:03 <luke-jr_> my goal is to get one and host AA servers ;)
04:03 <luke-jr_> you don't?
04:03 <spidey> luke-jr_, get one that's on the same node as me
04:03 <spidey> lol
04:03 <+mkzelda> yea, for whatever reason
04:03 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: my LAN: 64 bytes from 2002:1891:f657:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.177 ms
04:03 <spidey> i get a 16ms ping 150miles away 
04:03 <spidey> on my home servers
04:03 <spidey> from my moms
04:04 <+mkzelda> luke-jr_, i mean when i play arma
04:04 <luke-jr_> oh, heh
04:04 <spidey> mkzelda, you won't have a 33 ping
04:04 <+mkzelda> 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2999ms
04:04 <+mkzelda> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.057/0.074/0.094/0.017 ms
04:04 <+mkzelda> thats my lan
04:04 <spidey> it's always higher when you actually play
04:04 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: arma needs to wait for a CPU interrupt or such
04:04 <+mkzelda> yea
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04:05 <Lizz> hiya vanners
04:05 <spidey> --- 192.168.2.1 ping statistics ---
04:05 <spidey> 9 packets transmitted, 9 packets received, 0% packet loss
04:05 <spidey> round-trip min/avg/max = 0.7/0.7/1.1 ms
04:05 <Vanhayes> hey Lizz 
04:05 <spidey> that's my lan
04:05 <luke-jr_> ping6 www.kame.net
04:05 <luke-jr_> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 236.902/240.710/245.095/2.967 ms
04:06 <+mkzelda> i dont have ipv6
04:06 <luke-jr_> lame
04:07 <+mkzelda> lame is wasting time setting it up when twc doesnt have it
04:07 <luke-jr_> the latter can be fixed
04:07 <+mkzelda> ?
04:07 <luke-jr_> with a OpenWrt router, anyway
04:07 <luke-jr_> you can bypass TWC =p
04:08 <+mkzelda> but why?
04:08 <luke-jr_> ...
04:08 <luke-jr_> so all your computers have public addresses?
04:08 <+mkzelda> what do i need ipv6 addys for atm?
04:08 <luke-jr_> no NAT junk
04:08 <+mkzelda> all my computers need public addresses?
04:08 <luke-jr_> ....
04:08 <luke-jr_> nm
04:08 <+mkzelda> not-so-public addresses
04:09 <+mkzelda> b/c i dont know anyone who could access my "public" ipv6 addys
04:09 <+mkzelda> other than you
04:09 <+mkzelda> its not really public
04:09 <+mkzelda> if no one in the public can use it
04:09 <+mkzelda> so like i said, its lame to waste my time setting it up
04:11 <+mkzelda> instead of NAT junk i'd just have ipv6 encapsulation over ipv4 junk, sweet trade off
04:12 <spidey> mepis don't have ipv6 by default
04:12 <spidey> mmm,ubuntu does though
04:12 <+mkzelda> i have ipv6 use flag and kernel ipv6 support, but i dont have the tunnel set up
04:12 <+mkzelda> i do that b/c it doesnt take any effort to add ipv6 to make.conf or to compile into kernel
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04:19 <spidey> gay
04:30 <Lizz> *is
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05:42 <armabot> deja_vu: deja_vu_
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05:54 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: didn't you tell me some flags I needed to set in make.conf too?  I just looked around the gentoo website because I remember seeing them there and found something, but I'm not sure I found the right something
05:56 <spidey> yay, got "def" "owned" "attack" "break"
05:56 <spidey> :S
05:56 <spidey> :D
05:56 <spidey> now to see if they work,tron time!
05:57 <spidey> n.pyey@fbi.gov[~]$ bash tron
05:57 <spidey> sed: -e expression #2, char 55: unknown option to `s'
05:57 <spidey> /usr/bin/tron.py: line 11: -e: command not found
05:57 <spidey> /usr/bin/tron.py: line 12: -e: command not found
05:57 <spidey> /usr/bin/tron.py: line 13: -e: command not found
05:57 <spidey> /usr/bin/tron.py: line 14: -e: command not found
05:57 <spidey> Command INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_5_1 unknown.
05:57 <spidey> hahahahaha
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, after this emerge is done, if I don't have 3d, I'll reboot back to kubuntu and work on this later
05:59 <spidey> mmm
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> it can't be that hard to write a one single python script to do this thing
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> I would've just done that, but nemo posted his script so I didn't need to :)
06:00 <spidey> maybe
06:00 <spidey> but i don't know python very good
06:00 <spidey> just what i learned from a supybot i ran for a few weeks
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, it helps if you know english well ;)
06:00 <spidey> so i'm basically going from what you got
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> ah, heh
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> what I gave isn't the greatest example
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> ok, here's what you want to do
06:00 <spidey> ok, i see what i fucked up
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> at the beginning of the script, do, ah hell, I'll just do it
06:01 <spidey> 'er
06:01 <spidey> i don't get it....it worked with the first instantchat string i tried
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06:03 <spidey> gah
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> what are the instant chats you set up for?
06:04 <spidey> 1_1
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> filenames, that is.
06:04 <spidey> oh
06:05 <spidey> def
06:05 <spidey> owned
06:05 <spidey> attack
06:05 <spidey> break
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> def.txt owned.txt attack.txt ?
06:05 <spidey> ya
06:05 <spidey> i don't see where i fucked up though
06:05 <spidey> i just did what i did for the first time i tested the instant chat
06:05 <spidey> it worked then :/
06:06 <spidey> must be one of my typos xD
06:07 <spidey> ok
06:07 <spidey> starting over!
06:07 <spidey> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with http://pastie
06:07 <armabot> spidey: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 417 messages.
06:07 <spidey> :/
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> what chats did you put them in?
06:08 <spidey> you want the stuff from each file?
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I'm just going to zip this and put it on my webserver.  If it works, fine.  If not and you can fix it, fine.  If not and not, then I'll have to wait until I can reboot back to kubuntu to fool with it
06:11 <Lizz> heh i just pwnd sky lmao
06:11 <spidey> k
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/namepicker.tgz
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> for this, just run the python script
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> no bash script, none of that other stuff
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> oh shit, the colors aren't in there
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, it should be fairly obvious how to add the colors :)
06:13 <Lizz> looceee.. u work with puters for a job?
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> contract programmer, why?
06:13 <Lizz> k
06:13 <Lizz> curious
06:15 <Lizz> spider? whos a really good non fort player?
06:15 <spidey> dunno
06:15 <Lizz> i dont either :/
06:15 <spidey> haven't played deathmatch in awhile
06:15 <spidey> why?
06:16 <Lizz> curious
06:16 <spidey> curiousity killed the cat
06:16 <Lizz> something brought it back.. tho cant remember what it was
06:16 <Lizz> :/
06:17 <Lizz> anyway i asked coz i got things going on in my head.. u kno how i am arac :P
06:17  * spidey runs
06:18  * Lizz chases
06:18  * Lucifer_arma thinks Lizz needs to lay off the booze
06:18 <Lizz> not drinking
06:18 <Lizz> and believe me.. im restraining myself from how i usually am lmao
06:20 <Lizz> sillyscope thinks i drink all the time.. lmao.. like hed know... fw
06:20 <spidey> mmm
06:20 <spidey> weird
06:20 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, no errors so i can see what to fix
06:20 <spidey> but it doesn't work O_o
06:20  * spidey looks it over closely
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> check the files
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> on line 10 put "print something"
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> indented like the line that's there
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> er
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> print 'something'
06:24 <spidey> files?
06:24 <spidey> there's only one in the thing you sent me O_o
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> no, the other files
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> owned.txt def.txt etc
06:25 <spidey> oh
06:27 <spidey> heh
06:27  * spidey slaps self
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> redownload it
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> there were a few more problems :)
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> fixed now
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> shit
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> wait
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> lemme add color
06:30 <mkzelda> color every letter
06:30 <spidey> er
06:30 <spidey> no
06:30 <mkzelda> thats the only way to be cool
06:30 <spidey> if you're durka
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: 
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: didn't you tell me some flags I needed to set in make.conf too?  I just looked around the gentoo website because I remember seeing them there and found something, but I'm not sure I found the right something
06:31 <mkzelda> check pm
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> ok, now redownload it
06:32 <spidey> word
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> nothing, sorry
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> you may have told me when I was still in a terminal or something
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> no log of it here :(
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: the first version was broke in a way that means you have to recreate autoexec.cfg, sorry
06:33 <spidey> np :D
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: nah, it's a script that gives random names, instant chats, and player colors, every time you start armagetronad
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> we want to be completely anonymous, come join us!
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/namepicker.tgz
06:35 <spidey> LOL
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> make a text file with the names you like to use and post it somewhere, me and spidey will dig up the links to ours and we can all share each other's names and instant chats
06:36 <spidey> if we get a few people to do it,we'll need a place to put the files where everyone can access them
06:37 <spidey> like,download one add there stuff and reupload
06:37  * spidey could make a spot on his server
06:38 <mkzelda> i just discovered that i played in a tournament and didnt know it
06:38 <nemostultae> did you win?
06:38 <mkzelda> no, i might have tried harder if i knew i was in it
06:38 <spidey> def randvalue(filename):  i take it i change filename to the path?
06:39 <spidey> mkzelda, eh?
06:39 <mkzelda> i wanted to play in a sumo tourney
06:39 <mkzelda> LOL guys had it
06:39 <mkzelda> they told me to play somebody, it never happened
06:39 <mkzelda> i played some other ppl out of boredom and i show up in the brackets
06:39 <mkzelda> as having beaten one person and losing to another
06:40 <spidey> lol?
06:40 <spidey> lol = easy
06:40 <mkzelda> ya
06:40 <spidey> ws beat them and look who we had
06:40 <mkzelda> i lost to durka
06:41 <mkzelda> but i didnt know i was playing for the tourney hehe
06:41 <spidey> manta with a ping of 300+, eclipse(hardly plays fortress) nightmare(doesn't listen to team commands) kama he's good and ota
06:41 <mkzelda> i think i woulda tried harder if i'd known
06:41 <spidey> mm
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: no, change nothing, it should work just like it is
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> just make the files you want
06:42 <mkzelda> luci, i'll re-pm u
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> ok, thanks
06:42 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[namepicker]$
06:42 <spidey>  python namepicker.py
06:42 <spidey> [' \n']
06:43 <spidey> doesn't work, all i changed was the path to "words" "def" "owned" "attack" "break"
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> to what?
06:44 <spidey> /home/spidey/words
06:44 <spidey> /home/spidey/def
06:44 <spidey> /home/spidey/owned
06:45 <spidey> etc
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> wait, did you cat ~/.armagetronad/var/autoexec.cfg to see if it didn't work?
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> because....
06:45 <mkzelda> i've gotta go to bed
06:45 <Lucifer_arma>  [' \n']  <-- means the autoexec.cfg file it processed was empty
06:45 <mkzelda> ill try out this random thing tomorrow
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> ko
06:45 <mkzelda> cya
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> so you need to remake the file, spidey, and put in the config options you want it to change
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> typed exactly like you see them in the python file
06:46 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma, did u get my pms this time?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> I don't have any :(
06:46 <mkzelda> wtf
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> wait, did you pm on the forums, or here, with /msg?
06:47 <mkzelda> here
06:47 <mkzelda> im talking back to you
06:47 <mkzelda> u dont see that?
06:47 <spidey> ok
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> did you identify with NickServ?
06:47 <spidey> made it
06:47 <spidey> now this
06:47 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[namepicker]$
06:47 <spidey>  python namepicker.py
06:47 <spidey> [' \n', 'AYER_1 \n', 'COLOR_R_1 \n', 'COLOR_B_1 \n', 'COLOR_G_1 ']
06:47 <spidey> AYER_1
06:47 <spidey> COLOR_R_1
06:47 <mkzelda> yea im identified
06:47 <spidey> COLOR_B_1
06:47 <spidey> COLOR_G_1
06:47 <mkzelda> and so are you
06:47 <spidey> still nothing O_o
06:47 <mkzelda> i've written pages,
06:47 <mkzelda> ill post on wrtl's pastebin again
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> ah, heh
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:  Make these lines look like this:  chats['PLAYER_1_R'] = str(random.randint(0,15) )
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> COLOR_B_1  <--- should be COLOR_1_B, shouldn't it?
06:48 <spidey> no
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> no, PLAYER_1_B
06:49 <spidey> no
06:49 <spidey> in tron to change a color you do COLOR_R_1 1
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> COLOR_R_1
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, ok
06:49 <spidey> ya
06:50 <spidey> mmmm
06:50 <spidey> ok
06:50 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[namepicker]$
06:50 <spidey>  python namepicker.py
06:50 <spidey> ['PLAYER_1 \n', 'COLOR_R_1 \n', 'COLOR_B_1 \n', 'COLOR_G_1 ']
06:50 <spidey> PLAYER_1 Robin Hood
06:50 <spidey> COLOR_R_1
06:50 <spidey> COLOR_B_1
06:50 <spidey> COLOR_G_1
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> PLAYER_1_ <--- there's a typo here, an extra _
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> oh, forgot one
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> chats['PLAYER_1_R'] = str(random.randint(0,15) )   <--- can you fix the colors here?  These are the wrong ones
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> three lines
06:51 <mkzelda> http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/87748
06:51 <spidey> chats['PLAYER_R_1'] = random.randint(0,15)
06:51 <spidey> chats['PLAYER_G_1'] = random.randint(0,15)
06:51 <spidey> chats['PLAYER_B_1'] = random.randint(0,15)
06:51 <spidey> done fixed it
06:51 <spidey> :p
06:51 <mkzelda> so weird my pm's dont work
06:51 <spidey> you registered?
06:51 <mkzelda> yes
06:53 <luke-jr_> no you didn't
06:53 <luke-jr_> FreeNode says you're not registered
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> thanks mkzelda 
06:53 <mkzelda> * [mkzelda] (n=mkzelda@unaffiliated/mkzelda): mkzelda
06:53 <mkzelda> * [mkzelda] @#douchebags #trilug #gentoo-sparc #sparc #solaris +#evo-mission #e #armagetron #gentoo-amd64 #no-sources +#conrad #ncsulug ##gentoo-pub 
06:53 <mkzelda> * [mkzelda] kornbluth.freenode.net :Frankfurt, DE, EU
06:53 <mkzelda> * [mkzelda] is identified to services 
06:53 <mkzelda> says it to me
06:53 <luke-jr_> n= means unregistered
06:53 <luke-jr_> unless spidey registered that nick
06:53 <mkzelda> identified
06:53 <mkzelda> means identified
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda is an identified user  <--- I see tht too
06:54 <luke-jr_> shrug, spidey isn't registered under that name and it has n= for him
06:54 <luke-jr_> so logic suggests n= isn't registered
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: no, it also has n= for me
06:54 <luke-jr_> oh well
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> n=luke-jr@user-0c93tin.cable.mindspring.com (Luke-Jr)
06:55 <luke-jr_> maybe it's meaningless now
06:55 <luke-jr_> or maybe spidey registered that nick
06:55 <spidey> * [spidey] (n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles): spidey
06:55 <spidey> * [spidey] #armagetron #Anime 
06:55 <spidey> * [spidey] zelazny.freenode.net :Corvallis, OR, US
06:55 <spidey> * [spidey] is identified to services 
06:55 <spidey> * [spidey] idle 00:00:10, signon: Thu Jul 13 22:39:49
06:55 <spidey> * [spidey] End of WHOIS list.
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> he did, actually
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> some time ago
06:55 <luke-jr_> oh
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> it's the other nicks he uses that aren't registered
06:55 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as UNREGISTEREDIDIO
06:55 <spidey> mcspiddles is registered
06:55 <luke-jr_> well, he usually needs to rename to McSpiddles to PM me
06:55 <spidey> not anymore
06:56 <UNREGISTEREDIDIO> NREGISTEREDIDIO is n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com (Beelzebub)
06:56 <spidey> i had a staff drop this name so i could reregister
06:56 <spidey> :)
06:56 -!- UNREGISTEREDIDIO is now known as Lucifer_arma
06:56 <luke-jr_> o
06:57 <luke-jr_> spidey: way to confuse me =p
06:57 <luke-jr_> goodnight
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> gj spidey, way to make a fool out of luke-jr_ who's never wrong
06:58 <mkzelda> haha
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> not that this tells us why mkzelda can't /msg
06:58 <spidey> hahah
06:58 <mkzelda> i think n= and i= and whatever else deals w/ idents that resolve or not
06:58 <mkzelda> or special status otherwise
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> supertard's not registered
06:59 <mkzelda> and he has i=
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> same with Lizz 
07:00 <Lizz> but i registered
07:00 <mkzelda> logic suggests otherwise though!
07:00 <Lizz> i think
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> check anjori|away 
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> says unregistered and has n=
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> rather, doesn't say registered :)
07:00 <mkzelda> whatever, i pasted the pastebin url
07:00 <mkzelda> and i gotta go to bed
07:00 <Lizz> why do we need to be registered anyway?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> try messaging nickserv again
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> ok
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> can't /msg if you don't
07:01 <Lizz> but i can now
07:01 <mkzelda> cant /msg username
07:01 <mkzelda> can /msg #channel
07:01 <mkzelda> later
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> later
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07:04 <Lizz> ooooooooh
07:04 <Lizz> i have to log in with p/w everytime?
07:04 <spidey> lucifer
07:04 <spidey> mmm
07:04 <spidey> nvm,i wanna try something
07:05 <spidey> btw
07:06 <spidey> it's INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_1
07:06 <spidey>  INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_2_1
07:06 <spidey>  INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_3_1
07:06 <spidey> so on
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07:17 <spidey> mm
07:17 <spidey> it's that deja_vu person
07:17 <spidey> O_o
07:17 <spidey> <spidey> it's that deja_vu person
07:17 <spidey> -deja_vu- I'm sorry, but I'm away (not here ...)
07:17 <spidey> lol
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07:36 <spidey> ew
07:36 <spidey> it's anjori 
07:36 <anjori> i hate that guy
07:37 <spidey> so do i
07:37 <spidey> who?
07:38  * Lizz licks aaaaaaaaaaaaaanj
07:39 <spidey> hey Lucifer_arma 
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> what
07:39 <spidey> me you anjori maybe manta goody and eclipse could make a team called "east united states
07:39 <spidey> Maybe if the team grows a lot it can make 2 teams, like east and west, it goes 4 usa :P, plz no invented names.
07:40 <spidey> that way we don't have to play with the "smegheads" :p
07:41 <spidey> oh ya,anjori someone put your name under canada aswell,left it for you if you wanna remove it
07:45 <anjori> yeah, i noticed that. pissed me off.
07:45 <spidey> lol
07:46 <spidey> if we can get 2 more players we'll have enough players,it's just will they let us :p
07:46 <spidey> brb shower
07:46 <Lizz> hb
07:46 <anjori> and how would east united states work for me? i'm not from the U.S., nor am i from the east
07:46 <Lizz> no.. wait.. dont hb.. u smell :P
07:47 <spidey> anjori, north america then
07:47 <anjori> better ;)
07:47 <spidey> :)
07:47 <spidey> brb shower
07:47 <Lizz> tyt
07:47 <anjori> North American Alliance :P
07:48 <Lizz> awww.. ill have to stay a "smeghead" :(
07:48 <anjori> Affirmative!
07:48 <Lizz> asswipe :P
07:48 <GodTodd> North American Free Tron Alliance? ;)
07:49 <anjori> heh
07:49 <Lizz> how clicky!!
07:49 <Lizz> or should that be "cliquey"?
07:49 <Vanhayes> heh NAFTA
07:49 <Lizz> :/
07:50 <GodTodd> yep...acronym play ;)
07:50 <Lizz> heh NAFTA = noobs and **** tards anon ??
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07:51 <anjori> but asterisk starts with an A!
07:51 <Lizz> u kno what i mean :P
07:51 <anjori> we all know what you mean. say fuck. it's okay.
07:51 <Lizz> im jk anyway.. or .. maybe with spider in it im not lol
07:53  * anjori is tired
07:53 <Lizz> then goto bed
07:53 <anjori> i will soon
07:53 <Lizz> boring
07:54 <Lizz> come play DAFH server with me anj so i can pwn ya
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I don't know that I'll actually be able to show up, though
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> I want a league instead of a tournament
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> where we play like 1 game a week, or 1 game in two weeks and a practice or something like that
08:04  * spidey yawns
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
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08:09 <Vanhayes> #list
08:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
08:09 <Vanhayes> #list time
08:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: at, ctime, elapsed, seconds, time, and until
08:09 <Vanhayes> #time
08:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: 01:09 AM, July 14, 2006
08:09 <Vanhayes> #ctime
08:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fri Jul 14 01:10:08 2006
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08:29 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
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08:38 <spidey> wtf
08:38 <spidey> si think i found a bug
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I think I have 3d acceleration now
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> no arma yet, lots of stuff left to install, but that's something anyway
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08:52 <spidey> P2P technology is legal, downloading copyrighted material isn?t.
08:52 <spidey> Be careful of what you download or face the consequences.
08:52 <spidey> lol
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08:56 <Vanhayes> Im pretty sure downloading copyrighted material is legal, its uploading that isnt, not sure of that tho
08:57  * spidey doesn't care
08:57 <spidey> i've done it for years :)
08:58 <Vanhayes> yup same here, since napster first came out way back in the day
08:58 <spidey> although 12kb/s is slow :/
08:59 <spidey> man
08:59 <spidey> the MPAA sucks fucking ass
08:59 <spidey> they got thepiratesbay.org shut down
08:59 <Vanhayes> its back up...
08:59 <spidey> it wasn't even a american torrent sight
08:59 <spidey> ya,but you have to pay now
08:59 <Vanhayes> no
08:59 <spidey> ya
08:59 <Vanhayes> um ive been downloading things from there the past few weeks
08:59 <spidey> i just checked
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09:00 <Vanhayes> I just downloaded a CD
09:00 <spidey> http://www.thepiratesbay.org/
09:00 <spidey> from there?
09:00 <spidey> you're full of shit too
09:01 <Vanhayes> um... http://thepiratebay.org/
09:01 <spidey> rt
09:01 <spidey> er
09:01 <spidey> (S)
09:01 <spidey> bah
09:01 <Vanhayes> ha
09:02 <Vanhayes> my freind wanted a Simon and Garfunkel CD so I got it, that was yesturday
09:02 <spidey> heh
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> how could they shut down the pirate bay?  They're a legal political party in Sweden!
09:02 <spidey> how the hell am i downloading at 15kb/s but uploading at 28kb/s
09:02 <Vanhayes> no clue it happens to me too
09:03 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, MPAA pressured it
09:03 <Vanhayes> only was down for less than a month
09:03 <spidey> they threatened the sweden government
09:03 <spidey> something about cutting them off
09:03 <spidey> off of something,but they did it
09:04 <Vanhayes> heh USA has a grop of record Labels saying shut it down. Canada has a Gruop of artist saying keep it up
09:04 <Vanhayes> group*
09:04 <spidey> MPAA and RAA = gay
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09:04 <spidey> wtf
09:04 <spidey> uploading at 32kb/s and downloading at 6kb/s
09:05  * spidey finds new torrent
09:05 <Vanhayes> heh mine is downloading at 1 kb/s uploading at 10kb/s
09:06 <spidey> bah
09:06 <Vanhayes> er nvrm it just stopped doing both
09:06 <spidey> lo
09:06 <spidey> you got the ports the client uses forwarded?
09:07 <spidey> mines uses 6881 for download/upload and 4444 for the torrent tracker
09:07 <Vanhayes> ya its just the one pperson who was seeding just stoped
09:08  * spidey thinks about rdesktoping the windows box and using Ares
09:08 <spidey> i get alot faster speeds on it
09:09 <spidey> like in the 300kb/s range
09:09 <Vanhayes> azerus gets me there on a good torrent
09:09 <spidey> anything will on a good torrent
09:09 <spidey> but they're hard to find :p
09:10 <Vanhayes> hmm that thing about it being legal might only apply to here
09:10  * spidey uses ktorrent
09:10 <Vanhayes> Unless you live in Canada, downloading copyrighted material via P2P may put you at risk for a lawsuit. Canadian users are currently shielded from P2P lawsuits. Canada signed the 1997 World Intellectual Property Organization Internet Treaties, but has not yet ratified them by enacting their provisions into domestic law.
09:10  * spidey moves to canada
09:11 <Vanhayes> "Fans who share music are not thieves or pirates. Sharing music has been happening for decades." - CMCC (Canadian Music Creators Coalition)
09:11 <spidey> ahahahah
09:11 <Vanhayes> lol
09:11 <spidey> bitoogle.com
09:11 <Vanhayes> (Barenaked Ladies, Avril Lavigne, Sarah McLachlan, Chantal Kreviazuk, Sum 41, Stars, Raine Maida (Our Lady Peace), Dave Bidini (Rheostatics), Billy Talent, Sloan, and more!)
09:11 <Vanhayes> those artist that are in it
09:15 <spidey> barenaked ladies = the pwn
09:15  * spidey loves 1 week
09:15 <Vanhayes> lol
09:17 <Vanhayes> hmm
09:18 <Vanhayes> #wikipedia Neil Young
09:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.24 seconds: Neil Young - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Young>; Freedom ( Neil Young album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_(Neil_Young_album)>; Neil Young (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Young_(politician)>; Neil Young - Wikipedia, the (3 more messages)
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> neil young rules!
09:21 <Vanhayes> yes he does
09:30 <Vanhayes> if a game requires 500 mb of ram and you only have 256, any chance that game will work?
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> good chance
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> but it'll run slower than dirt
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> that's what swap space is all about
09:32 <Vanhayes> so it Should start up without problems?
09:32 <Vanhayes> like without an error message?
09:32 <wrtlprnft> 01:06 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: eh?
09:32 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: ?
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> that depends on how much available memory you have.  swap space is finite, too.
09:33 <Vanhayes> availible memory is arond 40 I think
09:33 <Vanhayes> 40 gigs
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> then yes, but why the fuck do you have 40 gigs of swap space?
09:34 <Vanhayes> er
09:34 <Vanhayes> mayby thats not it
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> it's also called virtual memory sometimes
09:37 <Vanhayes> its 750 mb
09:37 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: the image cache problem on the wiki is still there :S
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmmm
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> is there an error message with it?
09:38 <wrtlprnft> no
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> !!! ERROR: media-gfx/imagemagick-6.2.5.5 failed.
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's why
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> no libpng, apparently
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> does the composite manager work in xorg 7.0?
09:42 <wrtlprnft> it's a jpeg
09:42 <wrtlprnft> yeah
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but building imagemagick failed because of libpng
09:43 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> and the wiki uses imagemagick to make the thumbnails
09:43 <wrtlprnft> i know
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09:54 <Lucifer_arma> wow, firefox is almost done
09:54 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5690 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Protection against rubberless kills from teammates added.
09:54  * Lucifer_arma will finally be running a recent version of firefox
09:56 <Lizz> maaaaaaaaaaaaan i got someone making a fort server in AU :)
09:56 <Lizz> hes gone off to do it now O.O
09:57 <Vanhayes> #g 22*14*6*4*12-(300*12)-(200*12)
09:57 <armabot> (22 * 14 * 6 * 4 * 12) - (300 * 12) - (200 * 12) = 82,704
09:57 <Lizz> got no idea if he knows how to do it tho lmao
09:57 <Vanhayes> hmm that number cant be right
09:58 <Lizz> sry vanners didnt mean to interupt :)
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> how do I tell it to use something from ~x86 just for one build?
09:58 <Vanhayes> lol
09:58 <Vanhayes> #g 22*14*6*4*12-300*12-200*12
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> why can't that number be right?
09:58 <armabot> (22 * 14 * 6 * 4 * 12) - (300 * 12) - (200 * 12) = 82,704
09:58 <Vanhayes> #g 22*14*6*4*12
09:58 <armabot> 22 * 14 * 6 * 4 * 12 = 88,704
09:59 <Vanhayes> that why
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> that makes sense
09:59 <Vanhayes> I put something in wrong
09:59 <Vanhayes> er
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> you're subtracting two numbers from that big one
09:59 <Vanhayes> ya ya, thought the original was 70 000 and some not 80 000
10:00 <guru3> i'm surrounded by computers running slow :S
10:00 <Vanhayes> #g 13*14*6*4*12-500*12-100*12
10:00 <armabot> (13 * 14 * 6 * 4 * 12) - (500 * 12) - (100 * 12) = 45,216
10:01 <Vanhayes> damn...
10:01 <Vanhayes> #g 82,704- 45,216
10:01 <armabot> 82,704 - 45,216 = 37,488
10:02 <Vanhayes> I an make at least that much more money a year doing the same work I would do here, only its out west
10:02 <Vanhayes> roughly around there for my first year
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> #g 37488 CAD to USD
10:03 <armabot> 37,488 Canadian dollars = 33,043.6476 U.S. dollars
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> what's cost of living like out there?
10:03 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5691 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Delayed turn warning disabled for AIs.
10:03 <Vanhayes> higher but if you go out with at least 5 or 6 other guys you can get alot of maoney really fast
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> have you got 5 or 6 other guys to go out with?
10:04 <Vanhayes> easily
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> will it hurt your ping on fortress?
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
10:04 <Vanhayes> New Brunswick has a real job shortage problem
10:04 <Vanhayes> heh probly
10:04 <Vanhayes> get it too around 225 or something
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> that's playable
10:05 <Vanhayes> if I took up apretence welding here in NB it would pay 13-18 an hour starting out, in alberta 22-25 starting out
10:06 <Vanhayes> same work same hours
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, when I hung mufflers, here in Austin it was about $8/hour, up in Seattle $12-$15
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> same work same hours
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> but cost of living in seattle was higher, we needed food stamps
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> :(
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> a lot higher, too
10:07 <Vanhayes> the cost of living isnt too much higher
10:07 <Vanhayes> here
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> man, this desktop is beautiful
10:08 <Vanhayes> but If I lived here and worked I wouldnt be sharing a house/apartment/trailer/whateveryoucanfind with a bunch of other people
10:08 <Vanhayes> what does it look like?
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/desktop.png
10:10 <Vanhayes> um cant see desktop only your IRC client
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> ok, this irc client is fucking beautiful
10:10 <Vanhayes> lol
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> look at the title bar to the window it's in
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> see how it fades from bright to dark as you go up, and it's very subtle
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm really loving these colors
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> the border around the window looks very nice.  I like the wide border because it's eaasier to grab with the mouse, but this border also looks nice
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> I'm almost afraid to get Xgl working becuase it might upset what's here already
10:13  * Vanhayes is away: 
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: looks like I got imagemagick building now, give it a bit more and try again, it's still building
10:17 <guru3> would anyone argue that encoding video at 160fps is unusually fast?
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that I'd argue it, I'd just say it
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> is it putting 160fps into the file, or is it doing the encoding at 160fps?
10:18 <guru3> i think it's doing the encoding at 160fps
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> that's rockin!
10:18 <guru3> that's my amd encoding the matrix for the 770
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> (if it's putting 160fps into the file then it's a disaster)
10:18 <guru3> my p4 is encoding anime for the 770 at 40fps
10:18 <guru3> do we have a winner? i think so ><
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> that's cache-intensive work
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> iirc, it's the kind of work amd shows up intel on a lot :)
10:24 <guru3> hmm well
10:24 <guru3> it's going awfully fast ><
10:24 <guru3> 4x the speed
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> is the hostname speedy-gonzales?
10:25 <guru3> no
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> you know, speaking of movies, I just saw Daredevil today and it really freaking rocked
10:25 <guru3> it's a good one
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> my wife liked it so much she had to watch it again after the kids went to bed
10:26  * Lucifer_arma is waiting for firefox to finish building so he can say emerge PyQt4 and go to bed
10:28 <wrtlprnft> you can build two things at the same time
10:28 <guru3> 9 minutes left on the first pass of encoding the matrix
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Image:Desktop.png
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> I want to see firefox work in my environment the way I want it to before I go to bed, too
10:32 <guru3> the one thing that pisses me off about firefox
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, looks like the wiki's generating thumbnails again
10:32 <guru3> is that when i open a new tab
10:32 <guru3> it doesn't load google
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> why does that matter?  I use the bar to the right of the address bar that has the google icon in it
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> I see google's homepage ~3 times a year
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10:35 <guru3> haha
10:35 <guru3> that'd be too slow for me
10:35 <guru3> i don't like using the mouse a lot
10:37 <wrtlprnft> in opera for a new search: <CTRL-N>g whateverimlookingfor<return>
10:37 <wrtlprnft> can't get much faster
10:37 <guru3> ctrl-n -> new window?
10:38 <wrtlprnft> yeah
10:38 <guru3> :/
10:38 <guru3> new windows are evil
10:38 <wrtlprnft> well
10:38 <wrtlprnft> new tab that is
10:38 <wrtlprnft> opera is mdi
10:38 <wrtlprnft> so it behaves like a tab, with the only difference that you can resite it
10:39 <wrtlprnft> IIRC they actually changed the default shortcut for a new window to ctrl-t
10:40 <wrtlprnft> and it doesn't matter anyways, the interesting part is what you enter in the address bar
10:40 <wrtlprnft> "g asdf" is a google search
10:41 <wrtlprnft> you could as well press F8, which goes hilights the whole adress bar so you can enter a new address, or F2 which opens a dialog box asking for an address and opening it in a new tab
10:45 <Lucifer_arma> building ocaml now
10:45 <Lucifer_arma> maybe we'll get real math on the wiki soon
10:45  * Lucifer_arma thinks that if the wiki supported real math, z-man would put in the functions used to model a bunch of crap
10:45 <wrtlprnft> the flag gets resized again :)
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> this ocaml installation is one of the things I was mad at Mandrake over.  I couldn't install it because they tore down their mirrors, and it wouldn't build from source because I had some build stuff that was too old.
10:47 <wrtlprnft> #wikipedia ocaml
10:47 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.24 seconds: OCaml - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocaml>; OCaml - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocaml_programming_language>; Category:User ocaml - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:User_ocaml>; Template:User ocaml - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> echo "dev-python/PyQt4 ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.mask  <--- should this unmask a package?
10:50 <wrtlprnft> no
10:50 <wrtlprnft> is it masked by a keyword or by package.mask?
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> - dev-python/PyQt4-4.0 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
10:51 <wrtlprnft> if it's a keyword you say echo "dev-python/PyQt4 ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
10:51 <wrtlprnft> if it's package.mask you say echo "dev-python/PyQt4" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask
10:51 <wrtlprnft> if it's both you do both
10:52 <wrtlprnft> woot
10:52 <wrtlprnft> just got some snailmail from my cable provider
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> aha, the package.mask mask was put there by me, heh
10:52 <wrtlprnft> it says i get 16000kbit/s downstream now
10:52 <wrtlprnft> ah
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> er, no
10:52 <wrtlprnft> there's two package.mask, one is in /etc and one is in /usr (don't edit the last one)
10:53 <wrtlprnft> brb, need to restart my cable modem for it to take effect
10:54 <wrtlprnft> woo
10:54  * wrtlprnft gets some big file to download
10:55 <wrtlprnft> #echo am i still in here?
10:55 <armabot> am i still in here?
10:55 <wrtlprnft> good
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> damn, no math
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> need to fix collation problems on the wiki tables :(
10:58 <wrtlprnft> weird
10:58 <wrtlprnft> doesn't look that fast
10:58 <wrtlprnft> either I'm getting bad mirrors or my connection got slower
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> pyqt4 is emerging, I'm happy
11:01 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/trash
11:01 <wrtlprnft> can someone tell me what speed you get?
11:02 <wrtlprnft> hmm, i get ~90KB/s from aabeta, that rocks :)
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> about 90kb/s
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> oh bullshit.  segmentation fault when I try to start a pyqt3 app
11:05 <wrtlprnft> that's about 1.5 times as much :)
11:05 <wrtlprnft> which means i'll be able to host 12 arma players
11:09 <spidey> dogball owns
11:10 <spidey> ??
11:10 <spidey> if my webserver could handle the load
11:10 <spidey> i could host 4-5 16player servers
11:11 <wrtlprnft> 12 players might be about the load limit for my server :S
11:12 <spidey> mine does 16 fine,but for somereason it crashes when i load 2 servers
11:12 <spidey> actually
11:12 <spidey> you guys wanna help me test?
11:12 <wrtlprnft> wanna help me test my server? ;)
11:13 <spidey> sure
11:13 <spidey> to help me test,i'll need 8 people
11:13 <spidey> or
11:13 <spidey> 4 people with 2 clients loaded
11:15 <wrtlprnft> i think the map only has 9 spawn points
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11:20 <wrtlprnft> err, can anyone connect to my server at all?
11:23 <guru3> no lieutenant, your men are already dead.
11:23 <spidey> LOL
11:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm stumped
11:29  * Lucifer_arma is going to bed, 'night
11:29 <wrtlprnft> night
11:29 <wrtlprnft> must be 4:30AM there o_O
11:38 <guru3> it seems that you've been living two lives...
11:40 <spidey> lol
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12:24 <deja_vu> hi spidey :P
12:34 <spidey> you must be licker
13:15 <wrtlprnft> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1178.html <-- is there a RFC for everything?
13:15 <wrtlprnft> is there one on how to wipe your bottom?
13:17 <guru3> i know there's one for an http driven coffee pot
13:17 <wrtlprnft> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2100.html <-- that one's even better
13:19 <guru3> hahaha
13:19 <guru3> that's great
13:19 <guru3> lunch now
13:26 <spidey> you're makin' me lunch?
13:26 <spidey> how kind of you ;D
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13:31 <armabot> deja_vu: deja_vu_
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13:31 <spidey> lol
13:33 <deja_vu> O.o
13:33 <spidey> deja_vu couldn't decide whether to stay or go. 657 joins during this reporting period!
13:33 <spidey> hahaha
13:34 <deja_vu> :P
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13:34 <spidey> #insult madmax|pt 
13:34 <armabot> madmax|pt - You are nothing but a fly-bitten quart of squishy fat. 
13:34 <madmax|pt> lol
13:34 <spidey> squishy fat
13:34 <spidey> ewwww
13:35  * spidey runs from madmax|pt 
13:35 <madmax|pt> cool
13:35 <madmax|pt> :P
13:35  * spidey trips falls and dies
13:36  * spidey haunts madmax|pt for the rest of madmax|pt's life
13:36 <madmax|pt> never saw a spider's ghost
13:37 <spidey> they're deadly
13:37 <spidey> they can still bite 
13:37 <madmax|pt> oh
13:37 <spidey> but can't be squished
13:38 <spidey> froggy 103.7! RIBBIT!
13:38 <spidey> this country station rocks xD
13:38 <madmax|pt> let me guess, country music?
13:38 <spidey> ya
13:40 <spidey> ahahaha
13:41 <spidey> you should see what cheese dip in a glass jar with the top on it in a hot room for 2 weeks looks like
13:42 <madmax|pt> ew
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14:32 <spidey> . This giant was 8 feet ( 2.4 meters ) and lived in the rivers of the South America until quite recently - about ten thousend years ago.
14:32 <spidey> a goddamn turtle 8feet !!!!
14:33 <spidey> scratch that
14:33 <spidey> about 65 million years ago, and during the following Cretaceous Period. The largest ever to exist turtle on Earth, Archelon ischyros, had a body 9.5 to 13 feet long ( 3 -4 meters ). All of our modern sea turtles swam along with this giant.
14:33 <spidey> 13 feet!
14:33 <spidey> that's twice as big as wrtlprnft 
14:33 <spidey> lol
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15:00 <wrtlprnft> haha, the sandbox is an error page now :D
15:24 <guru3> i wonder if italians like italics
15:37 <wrtlprnft> <i>Italy!</i>
16:15 <wrtlprnft> 20KB/s downrate from kernel.org... I don't notice anything about 1.6MBit
16:20 <luke-jr_> only 20KB? usually I get well over 200
16:30 <wrtlprnft> i know, something's screwed up there
16:31 <wrtlprnft> at my end, that is
16:38 <wrtlprnft> #rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/uptime.php?fortytwo
16:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 16:37:59 up 83 days, 16:41, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00
16:38 <wrtlprnft> gah, I'm gonna lose that soon :S
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17:38 <wrtlprnft> 17:37:06 up 83 days, 17:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.36, 0.66, 0.88 <-- final uptime before restart :(
17:47 <luke-jr_> ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/lib/misc/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
17:47 <luke-jr_> ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/lib/misc/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
17:47 <luke-jr_> ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/lib/misc/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
17:47 <luke-jr_> ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/lib/misc/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
17:47 <luke-jr_> hrm
17:47 <luke-jr_> Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
17:47 <luke-jr_> weird
17:48 <luke-jr_> /tmp/ssh-DmRvX12772/agent.12772
17:48 <luke-jr_> sh: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: not found
17:48 <luke-jr_>  15:48:45 up 18 days,  8:27, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
17:48 <luke-jr_>  15:48:51 up 21 days, 15:05,  5 users,  load average: 0.52, 0.20, 0.06
17:49 <luke-jr_>  16:11:53 up 27 days,  4:34,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01
17:49 <luke-jr_>  15:49:11 up 5 days, 12:01, 106 users,  load average: 1.45, 1.60, 2.28
17:49 <luke-jr_>  10:49:18 up 33 days, 13:21,  7 users,  load average: 2.53, 2.38, 2.29
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17:55 <wrtlprnft>  20:21:29 up 15 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.04, 0.05, 0.05
17:55 <wrtlprnft> :S
17:55 <wrtlprnft> but
17:55 <wrtlprnft> Linux butler 2.6.17.4 #1 Fri Jul 14 17:32:31 CEST 2006 i686 Pentium II (Deschutes) GNU/Linux
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18:25 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
18:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
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18:48 <armabot> deja_vu: deja_vu_
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18:50 <wrtlprnft> armabot: ?
18:56 <spidey> wrtlprnft, i think it's saying deja_vu owns you
19:00 <wrtlprnft> she! she! she!
19:00 <spidey> ??
19:00 <spidey> lol
19:00 <spidey> armabot, is a it
19:01 <wrtlprnft> armabot is a she
19:01 <spidey> it
19:02 <spidey> armabot are you a it or she?
19:02 <wrtlprnft> ask Lucifer_arma 
19:06 <Vanhayes> armabot should be a she
19:06 <Vanhayes> hmm
19:06 <Vanhayes> no more should?
19:07 <spidey> armabot would you say you're a she or it?
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19:07 <spidey> #insult madmax|pt 
19:07 <armabot> madmax|pt - You are nothing but a measled tongueful of yeasty woman's. 
19:07 <madmax|pt> lol
19:08 <Vanhayes> ha
19:08 <spidey> mmm
19:08 <Vanhayes> "yeasty woman's" classy
19:16 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5692 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
19:16 <armabot> armagetronad: * Images are now centered
19:16 <armabot> armagetronad: * Added command-line options
19:16 <armabot> armagetronad: * Added parsing of <Resource ...> tag
19:23 <spidey> lol?
19:24 <spidey> CT's  "wild dogfight" isn't a dogfight server no matter how you look at it
19:24 <spidey> more like fortress/race combined
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19:56 <Lucifer_arma> there are no dogs fighting there?
19:59 <GodTodd> dogs fight in my living room
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20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5693 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Added .am files to be removed from the application bundle
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> haha, my two year old got attacked by the robot vacuum and said "Ah oh!" and ran off
20:27 <spidey> hahaha
20:28 <spidey> the robot vacuum attacked him?
20:28 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
20:28 <spidey> lmao
20:28 <wrtlprnft> is it standing guard in front of your server?
20:29 <spidey> haha
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh, no, its vacuuming the living room
20:29 <joda_bot> hi
20:29 <joda_bot> nemostultae: Are there ready to use frameworks for all Libraries ArmagetronAd uses ?
20:29 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, should i start learning python,OR finish where i left off on this C book O_o
20:30 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: I saw your bug entry about "boost library not detected by ..."
20:30 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: (on the SF tracker)
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: depends, do you already know how to program pretty well?
20:31 <joda_bot> wouldn't it be easier to add the few headers to thirdparty and optionally using linux local boost package ?
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> if not, learn python.  :)  It'll get you some good habits and give you a chance to learn how to program in general.
20:31 <spidey> heh,i can i can understand code well enough to edit it and make it do what i want,but not well enough to write it
20:31 <joda_bot> that way you don't have to install 10 mb of header and tron really requires just 10 files (which even won't change much)
20:31 <spidey> -1 i can 
20:31 <joda_bot> probably
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> ok, learn python then.
20:32 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: i don't care about the 10mb of headers
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> joda_bot: can't say I care much either way, as long as configure fails when it can't build the game and succeeds when it can, I'm happy :)
20:32 <wrtlprnft> i care about the hours of time it takes to compile and the hundreds of MBs of RAM it needs
20:32 <nemostultae> joda_bot: ? Sorry, didn't understand that.
20:33 <joda_bot> nemostultae: heh, I know libraries on Mac OS X are usually called / maintained as frameworks
20:34 <joda_bot> a) Are there prepared frameworks for each library ?
20:34 <joda_bot> b) Would it make sense to add framework files / source code to a library module 
20:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, if we can deal with that problem, wrtlprnft, by taking the boost parts we actually use into third-parties and just building it internally for ourselves, I'm fine with that
20:34 <joda_bot> c) Does SDL support creating a framework ? ;)
20:34 <nemostultae> I just use the SDL framework provided
20:34 <Lucifer_arma> but boost didn't take long for me to install on my server, which is a pretty crappy machine
20:34 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: afaik we don't even use any of the stuff it compiles
20:35 <wrtlprnft> it's all template classes we use
20:35 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma:I only commited required header boost headers for windows
20:35 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: how much RAM?
20:35 <nemostultae> I compile these libraries: ftgl, libpng. That is it. All else have binary version available
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> 256MB
20:35 <joda_bot> but for linux/unix there are not much more perhaps I even commited those
20:35 <wrtlprnft> see, i have 128MB
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> runs KDE 3.5.2, even
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> really?  you mean someone has less ram than I do?
20:35 <wrtlprnft> my parents' machine has 64MB...
20:36 <nemostultae> ouch
20:36 <joda_bot> nemostultae: do you build a framework package before you use the ftgl libpng libraries ?
20:36 <Lucifer_arma> let's hope they never have to build boost
20:36 <wrtlprnft> one gcc process took more memory than there was physical RAM
20:36 <nemostultae> libpng is built as a framwork, I just build ftgl as a static library using their supplied build system
20:36 <Lucifer_arma> joda_bot: did you commit the headers under thirdparty?
20:37 <Lucifer_arma> or did you put them somewheres else?
20:37 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: no currently they are inside win_libs/boost/include
20:37 <joda_bot> because I didn't consider this problem before
20:37 <Lucifer_arma> can you move them to thirdparty?
20:37 <nemostultae> ftgl requires some tricks to make it a universal binary, though.
20:37 <joda_bot> just noticed once I read the bug entry
20:37 <joda_bot> will do ;)
20:38 <joda_bot> thirdparty/boost/include 
20:38 <joda_bot> or
20:38 <joda_bot> thirdparty/boost (which is already the include directory)
20:38 <Lucifer_arma> ok, then either add a comment to the bug entry or tell me to add it saying we just need to add the boost stuff in thirdparty to the makefiles
20:38 <joda_bot> ?
20:39 <joda_bot> nemostultae: hm, from your prespective what would be the easiest way to provide mac libs / frameworks ?
20:39 <nemostultae> The way I do now. Download link on my website :)
20:39 <Lucifer_arma> whatever makes the most sense.  :)  I don't know enough about boost to make that call, joda_bot 
20:39 <joda_bot> oh, ok, hm... should we add the required files to armagetron cvs ?
20:40 <joda_bot> There are known bugs in the SDL Framework ?
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> ?  not sure I understand that question
20:40 <nemostultae> I don't think we need to keep that stuff under version control
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, nvm, that's for nemo :)
20:41 <nemostultae> http://generalconsumption.org/armagetron/libs <-- downloads
20:41 <joda_bot> ok, if you provide the neccessary files, can you add a link for Building on Mac OS X with the link to it ?
20:42 <joda_bot> I guess this is a good idea, just to have a similiar service for mac os x and windows ;)
20:42 <nemostultae> README-Subversion has the info, I'll add it to the wiki I guess
20:42 <joda_bot> oh alright
20:42 <joda_bot> damn, should have read that myself :|
20:42 <nemostultae> wait, hmm, I though I added it to that file...
20:43 <joda_bot> nemostultae: other branch ? ;)
20:43 <nemostultae> it is in trunk (was looking at 0.2.8)
20:44 <joda_bot> cool ;)
20:44 <joda_bot> ok, anyone of you having any expirience with subnotebooks ?
20:44 <Lucifer_arma> is that a notebook that goes underwater?
20:44 <spidey> By the way, the language is named after the BBC show ``Monty Python's Flying Circus'' and has nothing to do with nasty reptiles
20:44 <spidey> hahahah
20:44 <spidey> i like that
20:44 <joda_bot> notebooks with less than 3.? lbs / 2.0 kg weight ;)
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: yeah, that's why there's all sorts of monty python references in the docs :)
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20:45 <spidey> omg
20:45 <joda_bot> got scared of the vacum python ;)
20:45 <joda_bot> ?
20:45 <spidey> seems if i click the wrong spot on xchat it closes a channel
20:46 <spidey> and i don't mean the "x" either
20:55 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5694 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Use NATIVE_ARCH for Debug configuration
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21:04 <spidey> wow
21:05 <spidey> i didn't realize how long it's been since i actually took the time to read something that i learn from O_o
21:05 <spidey> makes the leeft side of my head hurt :/
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21:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
21:05  * Lucifer_arma kisses armabot 
21:06 <spidey> i'm on chapter 3 of 12 O_o
21:12 <luke-jr_> you read?
21:14 <luke-jr_> nemostultae: actually, I think frameworks in Svn would be a good idea o.o
21:14 <luke-jr_> either that or kick winlibs out =p
21:17 <spidey> luke-jr_, yes,i read...i used to always read,infact i used to learn something new everyday
21:17 <spidey> then i got lazy
21:17 <luke-jr_> or maybe just the frameworks not included with OS X
21:18 <luke-jr_> spidey: =p
21:18 <Vanhayes> brb its staring to storm really hard out
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21:27 <spidey> omg
21:27 <spidey> that's annoying
21:28 <madmax|pt> just don't touch anything spidey 
21:29 <spidey> :/
21:38 <spidey> chapter 4 is big O_o
21:38  * spidey goes to tron
21:44 <nemostultae> hmm, 0.3 just crashed.
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22:11 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5695 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj:
22:11 <armabot> armagetronad: Removed $(HOME)/Library/Frameworks from the frameworks search path to get rid of
22:11 <armabot> armagetronad: warnings from ld. This directory doesn't always exist, and all frameworks we use
22:11 <armabot> armagetronad: should be in /Library/Frameworks/ArmagetronAdvanced anyway.
22:13 <madmax|pt> :D
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> man, I didn't want arts
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> so, anybody know why pyqt3 and pyqt4 can't coexist?
22:21 <nemostultae> Do the commit messages get truncated at a certain length, and you can #more them if needed?
22:21 <spidey> #g 2^4096
22:21 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:21 <spidey> ???
22:21 <spidey> it doesn't do powers?
22:21 <wrtlprnft> they do get trunctated
22:22 <wrtlprnft> spidey: the result is too large
22:22 <spidey> O_o
22:22 <wrtlprnft> but as armabot listens in #commits it doesn't have the full messages
22:23 <wrtlprnft> spidey: http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/88337
22:24 <spidey> i got it
22:24 <spidey> kcalc told me
22:24 <wrtlprnft> kcalk can't tell you the exact result
22:24 <spidey> wanna bet?
22:25 <spidey> watch this
22:25 <spidey> do 2
22:25 <spidey> then that little x symble
22:25 <spidey> then 4096
22:25 <spidey> then click the result
22:25 <wrtlprnft> 8827918950871412730220060418850920835430601094903381980085550536606988561516921953488057039479447039833475200526960380172762739879373708645998199107914995214440736115741587438242374977820731691835843638289457734534569450960802752246931283497178795838653337848472921050097849212841543727531190678106217022368806601098211038639263527138323845061972292320406165736387760878864433702448553833836455876140014114918295349759187821515205067204726843458693363324935420977100395605688990153382864743041054570873830452561250552379604263862766527056930876924313763715036137405516708735514929517493884838769202973156901490366804537295993237863670487277234563657380415084750803206409170426438078138645501140744208765340616448954102374241387406940397686591371849205069946244201750274121430059622426034660476581005432305360926808403121335151036792207933770785068979034811413887927154638738192617025308093967624461046273739124924463242487669848992843660944706216983966827569816889399881461163452049606893187041027802680969489397233322001300259870005627613246992528544094716771840386420733895480374329850476294345367394922905523021810313467187366507485340089584808000771506985358458524597367450933562771723013041622419860253705849555469643302722315443072804780194788480742887738312347230635743260608359701529314529692424864431332598746257958575668398580214995142517128799889674171277180841132512396318814613281670002913118197543767750131311278310252486794020956413708599866378262017523217570760259199157135568182324494336
22:25 <spidey> and press the middle mouse button in here
22:25 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:25 <spidey> :)
22:25 <spidey> it can
22:25 <spidey> but it can't fit it all
22:26 <spidey> so it shows e+
22:26 <spidey> but if you click it then use the middle mouse button to paste it works :)
22:26 <wrtlprnft> i know it's pretty precise, but i didn't know it kept 1500 digits
22:26 <spidey> haha
22:27 <wrtlprnft> 1/3?
22:27 <wrtlprnft> =
22:27 <wrtlprnft> 0.3333333333333333333
22:27 <wrtlprnft> that's lame :P
22:27 <wrtlprnft> should be an infinite amount of 3s
22:27 <spidey> >>> x = 2
22:27 <spidey> >>> y = 4096
22:27 <spidey> >>> x^y
22:27 <spidey> 4098
22:27 <spidey> python does confuse me
22:27 <wrtlprnft> well
22:28 <wrtlprnft> that's probably x (binary xor) y
22:28 <nemostultae> it is **
22:28 <nemostultae> for exponent
22:28 <spidey> mm
22:28 <wrtlprnft> #math calc 2^4096
22:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
22:29 <wrtlprnft> that thing is *really* useless
22:29 <spidey> lol
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22:29 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #math calc 2 ^ 4096
22:29 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
22:29 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #math calc 2 pot 4096
22:29 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
22:29 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #math calc 2 pot4096
22:29 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
22:29 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #math calc 2pot4096
22:29 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
22:30 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #help math
22:30 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: There is no command "math".
22:30 <spidey> ////
22:30 <spidey> ......
22:30 <wrtlprnft> #math calc 2**4096
22:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: The answer exceeded 1.79769313486e+308 or so.
22:30 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:30 <wrtlprnft> #math calc pow(2,4096)
22:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: The answer exceeded 1.79769313486e+308 or so.
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> it's not useless, it just wants a valid python expression
22:30 <spidey> ahhhh
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22:32 <spidey> ok
22:32 <spidey> so i got it in python
22:33 <spidey> 03154190336L
22:33 <spidey> why does it end in a L ?
22:33 <wrtlprnft> long int?
22:33 <wrtlprnft> at least 12345l in c(++) means that
22:33 <spidey> mm
22:35 <nemostultae> numbers starting in 0 are treated as octal, probably
22:36 <nemostultae> starting with*
22:36 <spidey> doesn't start with o
22:36 <spidey> i just copied that
22:36 <spidey> it's long
22:36 <nemostultae> oh, oops
22:50 <Vanhayes> I love how I got kicked out of DS server without an explanation
22:50 <wrtlprnft> your fault if you play there
22:51 <Vanhayes> true, but they could at least give an explanation
22:51 <Vanhayes> first time in there server first round I get polled
22:51 <wrtlprnft> give them an explanation why you play there ;)
22:51 <Vanhayes> heh no one in bugfarm so I went to the one with the most ppl
22:52 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: which server?
22:53 <wrtlprnft> low rubber or the other one
22:53 <Vanhayes> i was in the non low rubber
22:53 <wrtlprnft> let's see if they kick me
22:53 <Vanhayes> now in low rubber
22:53 <wrtlprnft> there's psyko in there :S
22:53 <Vanhayes> ya I think he is the one who polled me
22:53  * Vanhayes is anger
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> he is anger, and I am pain
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> fear us
22:54  * Lucifer_arma got the gtk-qt engine installed
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22:57 <wrtlprnft_> gah
22:57 <wrtlprnft_> #last --nolimit
22:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft_: [15:57:35] <wrtlprnft_> gah, [15:54:31] * Lucifer_arma got the gtk-qt engine installed, [15:54:15] <Lucifer_arma> fear us, [15:54:13] <Lucifer_arma> he is anger, and I am pain, [15:53:44] * Vanhayes is anger, [15:53:40] <Vanhayes> ya I think he is the one who polled me, [15:53:25] <wrtlprnft> there's psyko in there :S, [15:53:19] <Vanhayes> now in low rubber, [15:53:18] <wrtlprnft> (50 more messages)
22:57 <wrtlprnft_> i hate that
22:58 <wrtlprnft_> x doesn't like if a 3d window gets partly overlayed by another window
22:58 <wrtlprnft_> so i noticed the red battery warning light was flashing
22:58 <wrtlprnft_> so i quickly minimized arma because i knew the warning would pop up onscreen in a second
22:59 <wrtlprnft_> then it did pop up, so i went and plugged the thing into power
22:59 <wrtlprnft_> then i switched back to arma, but the darn warning was still there, so it all crashed on me
22:59 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
23:01 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: update xorg ;)
23:01 <madmax|pt> muhahah another one bites the dust
23:01 <madmax|pt> blood sucking bugs dieeeee!!
23:01 <wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop $ X -version                                                   ~
23:01 <wrtlprnft> X Window System Version 7.0.0
23:05 <spidey> Vanhayes, busy?
23:10 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: perhaps they added patches to it ;)
23:11 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: hmm, currently trying to emerge 7.1
23:11 <joda_bot> ^^
23:11 <wrtlprnft> after unmasking half the portage tree, it seems
23:12 <joda_bot> Yeah, more bugs... it will crash now when init is loaded ;)
23:12 <wrtlprnft> nice outlook
23:13 <wrtlprnft> i have to say, the problem i mentioned grew over time, it wasn't there in the beginning
23:13 <wrtlprnft> in fact, i used to have arma running behind a lot of things all the time
23:13 <wrtlprnft> might be a hardware thing, this machine is getting old
23:13 <joda_bot> serious: most selected packages will work quite fine, only problem I noticed was when you start to use unstable base libraries or system ebuilds
23:14 <joda_bot> x org vanilla released should be fine, I think
23:14 <wrtlprnft> like, unstable gcc?
23:14 <joda_bot> no idea
23:14 <joda_bot> never tried unstable gcc
23:14 <joda_bot> not even gcc 4.0 ;)
23:14 <wrtlprnft> me neither
23:14 <wrtlprnft> i just recently upgraded to 3.x
23:15 <wrtlprnft> 3.4.6
23:15 <wrtlprnft> i had 3.3.something before
23:15  * joda_bot same 
23:15 <joda_bot> because some package required it
23:15 <joda_bot> can't recall which one
23:17 <wrtlprnft> gcc 3.4 actually improved things :)
23:17 <spidey> wtf man
23:17 <joda_bot> more warnings ?
23:17 <wrtlprnft> it made arma significantly faster anyhow
23:17 <joda_bot> ah ok ;)
23:17 <wrtlprnft> pentium-m optimisations i guess :)
23:17 <spidey> um
23:17 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: What notebook do you have ?
23:17 <joda_bot> I'm currently considering buying one
23:17 <wrtlprnft> dell latitude D500
23:18 <joda_bot> Portable one 
23:18 <wrtlprnft> but that's an old model
23:18 <joda_bot> perhaps with Nvidia graphics... 
23:18 <spidey> 3 people in my DF server,all there ip's are the same except the last 2 digits
23:18 <spidey> 2 of them play like bots
23:18 <spidey> but i dunno O_
23:18 <spidey> O_o
23:18 <wrtlprnft> nah, one of the things I'm happy about here is the intel graphics chip
23:18 <wrtlprnft> I'm not restricted to some kernel versions nvidia supports
23:19 <wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop $ uname -r                                                     ~
23:19 <wrtlprnft> 2.6.17.4
23:19 <joda_bot> well, on gentoo those kernels have been pretty current (last I checked)
23:19 <joda_bot> except you're running unstable kernels ;)
23:20 <wrtlprnft> I'm running the one that has the fix for that core file thingy
23:20 <joda_bot> never had any core file thingy yet ;)
23:20 <wrtlprnft> ?!?!?!
23:20 <wrtlprnft> err
23:20 <wrtlprnft> big security hole
23:20 <joda_bot> 2xP3 733 MHz 
23:20 <joda_bot> behind firewall ;)
23:20 <wrtlprnft> they brought down a debian server with that
23:21 <wrtlprnft> but you need a local account
23:21 <joda_bot> Guess the router is more of a problem ;)
23:21 <joda_bot> but it's on older linux stuff
23:21 <wrtlprnft> tho Lucifer_arma has an account, so i should be a bit careful
23:25 <wrtlprnft> my package.keywords has 87 lines :S
23:29 <joda_bot> What are the specs of your D500 , can't find it on Dell's site
23:29 <joda_bot> only some manual (as .exe) which I'm too lazy to install
23:29 <joda_bot> Most interested I am in weight ;)
23:29 <wrtlprnft> uh, sec
23:29 <joda_bot> Because I'm pretty focused on something with less than 2kg
23:30 <joda_bot> perhaps that is too restrictive
23:31 <wrtlprnft> hmm
23:31 <wrtlprnft> it's more than 2kg
23:31 <joda_bot> ah guess ti's close to D520
23:31 <joda_bot> which is 14 or 15"
23:32 <joda_bot> and about 3,+ kg?
23:32 <wrtlprnft> just tried it with a kitchen scale, but it won't measure anything >2kg
23:33 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: wow thx, for the effort ;)
23:33 <joda_bot> So would you prefer it to be less heavy ?
23:33 -!- Brooky [n=Brooky@80.73.221.166] has joined #armagetron
23:33 <Brooky> Hi all
23:33 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(29^2+21^2) cm in inches
23:33 <armabot> sqrt((29^2) + (21^2)) * cm = 14.0964676 inches
23:33 <joda_bot> hi brooky
23:33 <wrtlprnft> so that one is 14'' ;)
23:33 <Brooky> could someone check if my server is on the master list please
23:33 <joda_bot> :-)
23:33 <joda_bot> sure
23:34 <joda_bot>  which is it
23:34 <Brooky> its called element clan server
23:34 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: well, it's fine for me :)
23:34 <wrtlprnft> and looong battery, it used to last 8 hours, now it's like 4, the batteries are dying
23:34 <joda_bot> two batteries ?
23:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:35 <joda_bot> modular bay is good ;)
23:35 <wrtlprnft> one i can swap for a CD drive
23:35 <Brooky> what are you two on about?
23:35 <Brooky> lol
23:35 <wrtlprnft> but i didn't use that for ages now
23:35 <joda_bot> I guess I logged on ?
23:35 <wrtlprnft> if i have some CD i really need i just put it into my server and get the data over wlan
23:35 <joda_bot> can you kick me ? ;)
23:35 <joda_bot> Brooky: ?
23:37 <Brooky> how do kick from server console?
23:37 <Brooky> i forgot
23:37 <Brooky> lol
23:38 <wrtlprnft> first say players
23:38 <wrtlprnft> find the id of the player
23:38 <wrtlprnft> then KICK <id> <reason>
23:38 <joda_bot> worked
23:38 <joda_bot> ;)
23:38 <Brooky> done it
23:38 <joda_bot> lesson learned ;)
23:38 <Brooky> lol
23:38 <Brooky> yes
23:38 <Brooky> thanks
23:38 <joda_bot> np
23:38 <Brooky> so its on then
23:39 <joda_bot> Brooky: did you use a dyndns.org DNS name ?
23:39 <joda_bot> or a similiar Dynamic DNS service?
23:39 <wrtlprnft> dyndns rocks, screw noip
23:39 <Brooky> noip
23:39 <Brooky> lol
23:39 <Brooky> why?
23:39 <joda_bot> because otherwise the server will be listed as a new server everytime ;)
23:39 <joda_bot> cool
23:39 -!- GodTodd [n=GodTodd@c-71-199-204-144.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron
23:39 <joda_bot> I don't care which service it is
23:40 <joda_bot> Though I use dyndns ;)
23:40 <Brooky> so is that good then
23:40 <joda_bot> yes, if you set server_ip to myname.noip.xx
23:40 <joda_bot> it's fine
23:40 <Brooky> ok
23:40 <Brooky> is that in settings_dedicated?
23:40 <joda_bot> GodTodd: Are you also on tronsector.com ? (aka RealTod?)
23:40 <Brooky> what new file do i make?
23:41 <joda_bot> Brooky: You can change it in some .cfg probably, but I'd also adwise on using a autoexec.cfg
23:41 <wrtlprnft> long compile runs should really have status bars :S
23:41 <joda_bot> because you can upgrade the server easily that way
23:41 <Brooky> ok
23:41 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: or tron ascii interfaces ;)
23:41 <wrtlprnft> a la "123 of 321 compiled already"
23:41 <Brooky> server_info
23:42 <wrtlprnft> *files
23:43 <joda_bot> Brooky: create a empty file called "autoexec.cfg" in the var folder
23:43 <joda_bot> and put all changes to the default cfgs into that file
23:43 <wrtlprnft> nonono, that's deprecated
23:44 <wrtlprnft> use server_info.cfg and settings_custom.cfg
23:44 <Brooky> SERVER_IP http://joni.sytes.net
23:44 <Brooky> is that right
23:44 <Brooky> in info one
23:44 <joda_bot> sounds good
23:44 <Brooky> ok
23:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> anyone expierienced with sun machines here?
23:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> like the ss20?
23:45  * wrtlprnft has never even seen a sun machine
23:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> these machines are really cool
23:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> like best computers ever
23:46 <Brooky> what is a sun machine?
23:46 <joda_bot> Brooky: the ip is not updated yet (atleast in my master list)
23:46 <joda_bot> [Xpert]DarkStar: I've seen/used some old sun workstations at university
23:46 <Brooky> i still have same ip as before
23:46 <joda_bot> but I can't say I was impressed ;)
23:46 <joda_bot> Brooky: no the server_ip entry wasn't updated
23:47 <Brooky> oh
23:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> joda_bot: i bet you've seen some that are 20 years old and thought they were 5 years old
23:47 <joda_bot> you have to reregister the server (e.g. quit and restart) or perhaps talk_to_master 0 talk_to_master 1 (not sure if that works though)
23:47 <Brooky> ok ill try
23:47 <wrtlprnft> uh, restarting X, prepare for me crashing :S
23:48 <joda_bot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Are you talking about multi terminals or single servers ?
23:48 <joda_bot> Is anyone actually using sun "workstations" ?
23:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i have one here
23:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but the problem is
23:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i do not have monitor nor keyboard
23:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> so i gotta connect to it via serial port
23:48 <Brooky> done it
23:48 <joda_bot> [Xpert]DarkStar: !??!
23:48 <joda_bot> serial what ? :-P
23:49 <joda_bot> How fast is the proc ?
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 150mhz
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> each
23:49 <spidey> just great
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> being 2
23:49 <spidey> scope is in my dogfight server
23:49  * spidey wants so bad to ban him
23:49 <wrtlprnft> hmm, at least it didn't screw everything up
23:50 <joda_bot> Brooky: didn't work for me yet
23:50 <Brooky> try again
23:52 <Brooky> i only have port 4534 open
23:52 <Brooky> that shouldnt matter though# should it

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