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[2023-10-23 00:44:25] <Lucifer_arma> ah the power of database indexes
[2023-10-23 00:44:26] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ah the power of database indexes
[2023-10-23 00:45:01] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I added one index to a really large table and it went from jobs on that table taking over a minute each to zipping right through like it did before
[2023-10-23 00:45:05] <Lucifer_arma> I added one index to a really large table and it went from jobs on that table taking over a minute each to zipping right through like it did before
[2023-10-23 00:46:00] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| uhhh
[2023-10-23 00:46:00] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| uhhh
[2023-10-23 00:46:08] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| apparently the github repo is outdated
[2023-10-23 00:46:09] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| apparently the github repo is outdated
[2023-10-23 00:49:47] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| z-man @armanelgtron @wwnelg
[2023-10-23 00:49:47] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| z-man @armanelgtron @wwnelg
[2023-10-23 00:49:47] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| did yall realize that packages are using github as upstream and need to be notified that development moved to gitlab?
[2023-10-23 00:49:48] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| did yall realize that packages are using github as upstream and need to be notified that development moved to gitlab?
[2023-10-23 00:55:39] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| or something
[2023-10-23 00:55:39] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| or something
[2023-10-23 00:55:47] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| it seems that it was forgotten to create a tag in github
[2023-10-23 00:55:47] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| it seems that it was forgotten to create a tag in github
[2023-10-23 00:57:56] <Lucifer_arma> I don't recall development ever being on github.  It's supposed to be a clone of gitlab
[2023-10-23 00:57:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I don't recall development ever being on github.  It's supposed to be a clone of gitlab
[2023-10-23 00:58:12] <Lucifer_arma> I could be misremembering, but we don't trust Microsoft, still :)
[2023-10-23 00:58:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I could be misremembering, but we don't trust Microsoft, still :)
[2023-10-23 00:58:19] <Lucifer_arma> (that's "we" is probably just me)
[2023-10-23 00:58:20] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| (that's "we" is probably just me)
[2023-10-23 00:58:45] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| the problem is that the tags were not updated on github
[2023-10-23 00:58:45] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| the problem is that the tags were not updated on github
[2023-10-23 00:58:54] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| causing packages to not update
[2023-10-23 00:58:54] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| causing packages to not update
[2023-10-23 00:59:11] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| the official place for releases is launchpad right?
[2023-10-23 00:59:11] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| the official place for releases is launchpad right?
[2023-10-23 00:59:36] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| is there a way/means to grab the latest version of something in launchpad?
[2023-10-23 00:59:36] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| is there a way/means to grab the latest version of something in launchpad?
[2023-10-23 00:59:42] <Lucifer_arma> I thought we were off launchpad for that.  Launchpad is ubuntu specific
[2023-10-23 00:59:42] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I thought we were off launchpad for that.  Launchpad is ubuntu specific
[2023-10-23 01:00:45] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| the official download links are coming from launchpad
[2023-10-23 01:00:46] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| the official download links are coming from launchpad
[2023-10-23 01:01:32] <Lucifer_arma> could be.  Last time I was involved with a release, we were still putting the non-ubuntu stuff on sourceforge (with nightly builds and the development series self-hosted)
[2023-10-23 01:01:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| could be.  Last time I was involved with a release, we were still putting the non-ubuntu stuff on sourceforge (with nightly builds and the development series self-hosted)
[2023-10-23 01:01:46] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| sourceforge is outdated
[2023-10-23 01:01:47] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| sourceforge is outdated
[2023-10-23 01:01:59] <Lucifer_arma> but I don't remember launchpad hosting anything except source and debian packages for ubuntu
[2023-10-23 01:01:59] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but I don't remember launchpad hosting anything except source and debian packages for ubuntu
[2023-10-23 01:02:38] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: where do we put official releases?
[2023-10-23 01:02:38] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Z-Man: where do we put official releases?
[2023-10-23 01:03:24] <Lucifer_arma> personally, I still use bzr for my own projects, heh :)
[2023-10-23 01:03:25] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| personally, I still use bzr for my own projects, heh :)
[2023-10-23 01:03:26] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| it seems like github is not really used but gitlab is
[2023-10-23 01:03:27] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| it seems like github is not really used but gitlab is
[2023-10-23 01:03:41] <Lucifer_arma> we use gitlab
[2023-10-23 01:03:42] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| we use gitlab
[2023-10-23 01:04:09] <Lucifer_arma> github is just a copy, and honestly, I don't know if we update it or if it's someone else.  I remember someone else creating a github repo back when we were still using launchpad
[2023-10-23 01:04:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| github is just a copy, and honestly, I don't know if we update it or if it's someone else.  I remember someone else creating a github repo back when we were still using launchpad
[2023-10-23 01:04:27] <Lucifer_arma> but "upstream" for us is gitlab and has been for years
[2023-10-23 01:04:27] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but "upstream" for us is gitlab and has been for years
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[2023-10-23 01:32:18] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| apparently package maintainers didn't get that memo
[2023-10-23 01:32:19] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| apparently package maintainers didn't get that memo
[2023-10-23 01:32:26] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| they're using github
[2023-10-23 01:32:29] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| they're using github
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[2023-10-23 03:01:43] <Lucifer_arma> I can't imagine why.  We've never used github as a primary, afaik
[2023-10-23 03:01:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I can't imagine why.  We've never used github as a primary, afaik
[2023-10-23 03:02:40] <Lucifer_arma> iirc, while we were looking at moving over to git, microsoft bought github, so when we made the move, we went straight to gitlab.  That's how I remember it, anyway, but I was in active addiction at the time.  :/
[2023-10-23 03:02:41] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| iirc, while we were looking at moving over to git, microsoft bought github, so when we made the move, we went straight to gitlab.  That's how I remember it, anyway, but I was in active addiction at the time.  :/
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[2023-10-23 11:10:15] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| meh, most people still use github, the microsoft thing is FUD
[2023-10-23 11:10:15] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| meh, most people still use github, the microsoft thing is FUD
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[2023-10-23 12:22:20] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| okay about the arch issue, i got pointed towards you guys
[2023-10-23 12:22:20] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| okay about the arch issue, i got pointed towards you guys
[2023-10-23 12:22:29] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| aka upstream
[2023-10-23 12:22:29] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| aka upstream
[2023-10-23 12:22:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| they dont know what it is but suspect its sdl
[2023-10-23 12:22:38] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| they dont know what it is but suspect its sdl
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[2023-10-23 22:40:17] <Lucifer_arma> Uh, no, Microsoft really has done a lot of bad things, like calling us a cancer, and not trusting them is healthy
[2023-10-23 22:40:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Uh, no, Microsoft really has done a lot of bad things, like calling us a cancer, and not trusting them is healthy
[2023-10-23 22:40:44] <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how you make decisions, but around here we decide based on what we think is best for us, not what "most people" do
[2023-10-23 22:40:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I don't know how you make decisions, but around here we decide based on what we think is best for us, not what "most people" do
[2023-10-23 22:48:31] <Lucifer_arma> so Microsoft has to earn back our trust, and it's not an easy road for them.  In the meantime, we existed as an open source project when they were actively attacking the open source world, and we'll exist long after they've joined us and put Linux under Windows
[2023-10-23 22:48:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so Microsoft has to earn back our trust, and it's not an easy road for them.  In the meantime, we existed as an open source project when they were actively attacking the open source world, and we'll exist long after they've joined us and put Linux under Windows
[2023-10-23 22:51:57] <Juest> i see
[2023-10-23 22:51:58] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| i see
[2023-10-23 22:52:01] <Juest> sorry to hear that
[2023-10-23 22:52:01] <armagetronbridge> 14irc:Juest| sorry to hear that

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