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Log from 2008-04-07:
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00:15 <Flex> WTH has epsy done to the server
00:15 <Flex> that's why his april fools joke wasn't taken humoursly.. the server is always fucked :D
00:18 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: come on
00:19 <Monkey_arma> I AM
00:27 <Flex> what is the default/standard cycle_rubber_time setting?
00:27 <Flex> anyone?
00:27 <Flex> zmanuel?
00:28 <zmanuel> 1 or 0
00:28 <zmanuel> 0.
00:28 <Flex> really
00:29 <Flex> the server is weird, and it was set to 0.1
00:29 <Flex> guess that's not the problem then
00:33 <noob13> actually i think rubber time is 10 by default..
00:34 <noob13> at 0 the rubber doesn't deplete :P
00:34 <Flex> bah, yeah it is 10
00:40 <zmanuel> ah, sorry, I thought you meant time_based
00:41 <zmanuel> yeah, 0.1 is moronically low for rubber_time :)
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01:08 <noob13> http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/29/europe/physics.php
01:08 <noob13> :O
01:10 <noob7> end of earth in my lifetime? count me in!
01:10 <noob7> I'd prefer a zombie outbreak tho...
01:10 <noob13> :D
01:13 <noob7> lets hope the black hole spreads like the nothing in neverending story :)
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01:17 <noob13> did it happen yet?
01:17 <zmanuel> No.
01:18 <zmanuel> 1. The LHC is not turned on yet
01:18 <zmanuel> 2. it's bullshit :)
01:18 <noob13> phew..
01:18 <noob7> dang!
01:18 <Monkey_arma> ah zman btw we have an issue  with zthread ..we cant quite get it to work
01:18 <zmanuel> what's the output?
01:19 <noob13> tru that..
01:19 <Monkey_arma> config.log?
01:19 <zmanuel> depends, what is the problem?
01:19 <Monkey_arma> we compiled zthread with the -fpermissive flag and then compile arma but it does not seem to use the ztrhread
01:20 <noob13> the aa configure can't run zthread..wait i'll show..
01:20 <Monkey_arma> others have had issues too..if we work out what to do we can alter the wiki
01:20 <zmanuel> yeah. The relevant output would then be in config.log, yes.
01:21 <Monkey_arma> we tried all combinations of flags for stating where zthread is and it altered the config.log but still didnt use it
01:21 <noob7> this it? http://www.mastercontrolprogram.de/files/documents/config.log
01:21 <noob7> or is that an old one?
01:23 <noob13> that might be it, or this http://www.mastercontrolprogram.de/files/documents/config.log.txt
01:23 <noob13> i'm a bit confused at the moment
01:23 <Monkey_arma> same thing
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01:24 <noob13> indeed.
01:25 <Flex> madmax, 220-230 is possible and probably the max
01:26 <Flex> i don't think i can do anything above 220, so it belongs to you if you manage lol
01:26 <madmax> lol
01:27 <Flex> i barely managed 212, hitting 204 3times.. but you were doing 208 with ease
01:27 <madmax> btw, the SP grid is smaller right?
01:27 <Flex> sp?
01:27 <madmax> single player
01:28 <Flex> yeah
01:28 <Flex> bots, so no point
01:28 <Monkey_arma> zmanuel, that is with  the option --with-zthread-exec-prefix=/usr/local and --with-zthread-exec-prefix=/usr/local
01:28 <Flex> just get a slave, i'll use Monkey_arma :D
01:28 <Flex> xxx
01:28 <Monkey_arma> yes master Flex anything you desire...
01:29 <noob13> Monkey_arma: actually that isn't..
01:29 <madmax> so, you and evil guy get along just fine heh?
01:29 <Flex> he's annoying dick
01:29 <Flex> an
01:29 <Monkey_arma> yes i noticed them arguing too
01:29 <madmax> tron's drama
01:30 <Monkey_arma> zmanuel, without those options the error is different...noobs will show you
01:30 <Flex> it all started when i said i'll necro his mother, then he's whined and come at me ever since
01:30 <Flex> i admit i shouldn't of said that, but he deserved it at the time :D
01:30 <zmanuel> ./conftest: error while loading shared libraries: libZThread-2.3.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
01:30 <zmanuel> That's the relevant line
01:30 <Flex> necrophilia ftw (sometimes)
01:30 <zmanuel> it says libZThread.so.2 is not properly installed
01:31 <Monkey_arma> i figured the problem is that it cant find it
01:31 <zmanuel> Yep, probably because /usr/local/lib is not in the library search path.
01:31 <Monkey_arma> i guessed this too
01:31 <zmanuel> Ubuntu and some other distributions do that crap.
01:32 <Monkey_arma> debian
01:32 <noob13> hmm..i've gotten it to work on my ubuntu, this debian is a bit harder
01:32 <Monkey_arma> that is why i gave the option to configure of /usr/local
01:32 <Monkey_arma> but it dont work
01:32 <noob13> the above config.log was done without defining paths for zthread
01:33 <Monkey_arma> i thought maybe we can add to environment variable to LIBS or something?
01:33 <zmanuel> well, the options don't change the library SEARCH path.
01:33 <zmanuel> Or you could install zthread with "--prefix=/usr"
01:33 <Monkey_arma> i  thought that but its mess to remove
01:34 <Monkey_arma> does LIBS add to the list of library dirs or does it override?
01:34 <zmanuel> I think it should add.
01:34 <Monkey_arma> ok i hope so..we will try that
01:34 <Monkey_arma> thanks...for now :)
01:35 <Monkey_arma> also i noticed that zhtread-config shows crazy dirs for macros, libs and headers
01:35 <zmanuel> And if it doesn't work: it's just for convenience.
01:35 <Monkey_arma> dont know if i will have to state the dirs for all 3...
01:35 <zmanuel> armathentication works without zthread, only slower.
01:35 <noob7> well, between rounds only
01:35 <Monkey_arma> but the noobs have a styball server
01:36 <Monkey_arma> rounds last for AGES
01:36 <noob7> and thats bad when campers are doing their thing and admins cant jump in ingame
01:36 <zmanuel> oh, ok
01:36 <zmanuel> you can give the admins local accounts.
01:36 <noob7> local accounts work right away?
01:36 <noob7> I mean the auth for local accounts...
01:37 <zmanuel> yep, they don't require queries to remote servers that can stall, so they're handled at once.
01:37 <noob7> ok I understand, still a hassle, most got accounts at other athorities for armathentication, but its might be a solution
01:38 <Monkey_arma> we can get the zthread  to work..i knew it was just a location issue...i hope that the macro and headers arent a hassle too though
01:42 <Flex> btw, who won the FFF?
01:42 <zmanuel> RT1
01:42 <Flex> who was playing
01:42 <noob7> http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/
01:42 <Monkey_arma> rt1 usual team
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01:42 <noob7> woops
01:42 <Flex> right
01:43 <Monkey_arma> for ct ady came late so others played till
01:43 <Flex> gz Lackadaisical
01:43 <Monkey_arma> yes gz lack
01:43 <Lackadaisical> thanks
01:43 <Flex> never watched it :/
01:43 <Flex> how did it all go
01:43 <Lackadaisical> first match was horrible
01:43 <Lackadaisical> we lost 140 - 40 or something
01:44 <Flex> "What kind of tournament is it where some Random Team can win it? " lol I'd like to know that too
01:44 <noob7> 148 - 48
01:44 <noob7> :D
01:44 <Flex> seriously we should of beat you guys.. we got cocky :(
01:45 <Lackadaisical> yeah.. i had expected holers to win the tournament
01:46 <Flex> Infamous said he wanted a random team to win the first FFF lol
01:47 <Flex> i think he spiked us :D
01:50 <Monkey_arma> durka and lacks are very good players flex
01:50 <Monkey_arma> raiden is too and that punkboy is not bad at all
01:51 <Flex> they're random, we're orginized or was supposed to be lol
01:51 <Monkey_arma> durka if you are listening im joking you suck
01:51 <Flex> they had some "beginnner" players
01:52 <madmax> triple n beginners? :-D
01:52 <Flex> i'm not saying they had no chance, it was just we were clearly the more 'advanced' team :p
01:53 <Monkey_arma> lol im not sure you where
01:53 <Monkey_arma> watch raiden play in cafe some time
01:53 <Monkey_arma> you and legits team and rt1 were the only 3 i thought would win
01:53 <Monkey_arma> *were
01:53 <Flex> I thought legits team would be at the final with us
01:54 <Lackadaisical> whatever happened to 1200s team? i heard he was going to play with psyko and whatup?
01:54 <Flex> hey, who cares, GG's no hard feelings.. it's good that a random team won..
01:54 <Flex> shows that it's worth signing up solo
01:54 <Lackadaisical> yes thats true
01:55 <Lackadaisical> but it makes you think how much teamplay is actually needed for fortress
01:55 <Lackadaisical> i think i might hijack defense down! to rant a bit about it
01:56 <Flex> we clearly had none though during our game
01:56 <Flex> but then again, it's not like you guys only played us
01:56 <Monkey_arma> we didnt just have no teamwork we had no team......
01:56 <Monkey_arma> #slap epsy
01:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps epsy for being a raving moron.
01:56 <Lackadaisical> lol
01:56 <Flex> you guys fucked us over by being so shit :D
01:57 <Flex> we then played rt1 with a silly attitude
01:57 <madmax> that statement sound similar to "financial system callapsing" news
01:57 <Monkey_arma> yes they paid us to underwhelm you with our lack of ability
01:57 <Flex> Lackadaisical, are you saying you guys had no team work?
01:58 <madmax> i guess we've been fooled into thinking that fortress is a team game all this time :D
01:58 <Flex> it's worrying tbh
01:58 <madmax> but then again, there's no "practice" routines
01:58 <Lackadaisical> well there was some of course
01:58 <madmax> or nothing very complex at least
01:58 <Flex> there is max..
01:58 <Flex> our sweeping is complex :D
01:58 <Flex> but shh
01:58 <Flex> lol
01:59 <madmax> you have schematics and all?
01:59 <Lackadaisical> but it wouldve been better if a team of semigood people who are really good teamplayers would beat a random team who didnt play that much with eachother
01:59 <madmax> plan Bs?
01:59 <Flex> i'm not allowed to talk about that sorry :p
01:59 <madmax> crap.
01:59 <madmax> gotta get into a clan
01:59 <Lackadaisical> havent you heard max? teams are clans
01:59 <Flex> don't think you have the skillz max
02:00 <madmax> oh yeah, forgot about that
02:00 <Lackadaisical> you've been in a clan all along
02:00 <madmax> damn it!
02:00 <Flex> in all seriousness.. what's the big difference
02:00 <Flex> oh we're binded by our tag?
02:00 <Flex> we just like to use it.. nobody is forced :)
02:00 <Flex> so got anything else?
02:00 <madmax> heh not this again
02:01 <Flex> Legit, and afew others are also in some team "supers" or something
02:01 <madmax> in-game chat about it is too much already
02:01 <Flex> so again, we're not limited
02:02 <Flex> don't blame us for being social players and joining groups ;) i think that was the foundation of clans and guilds
02:02 <madmax> so you actually have "complex" practicing sessions Flex?
02:02 <Flex> lol, why are you interested? :p
02:03 <madmax> i mean, something more than splitting into two teams and playing a match
02:03 <madmax> well, i'm curious
02:03 <Monkey_arma> teams can be social players too
02:03 <Flex> we used to have practicing sessions every sunday.. that was when we was at the "peak" of our success :p
02:04 <madmax> if i remember correctly, in AW's practices (which was pretty much the closest to practice i've been i think) there wasn't much organization
02:04 <Monkey_arma> well clans or teams..is not so important..what is important is that we should properly organise some friendly matches
02:05 <Monkey_arma> like yesterday but maybe 5v5 6v6 etc
02:05 <Monkey_arma> no clowns
02:05 <Lackadaisical> when did we have AW practices? or are you talking about preladle?
02:05 <madmax> when it first came up i think we did some, no?
02:06 <Flex> i dunno if it actually made a difference, but personally i think it did.. it changed players attitudes towards winning and team effort completely..
02:06 <Lackadaisical> mmm i forgot i guess, or i was in SS at the time
02:08 <Flex> also, you and durka are experienced players and also have played quite afew times together.. so that's half your team
02:08 <madmax> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Strategy_Experiments
02:09 <madmax> i think we actually tried that fork thing on one of those practices
02:09 <madmax> but it was a mess lol
02:09 <Lackadaisical> 2020 :D
02:09 <madmax> exactly
02:10 <madmax> if something like a tutorial (or something with pre-defined situations) comes up maybe that'll allow for people to actually "practice"
02:10 <Lackadaisical> i wish he'd still make those reports on matches on youtube, those were fun
02:10 <Flex> yeah, it's more of a tutorial on how to play :p
02:11 <Lackadaisical> how many situations are there in fortress that require team practice? as opposed to just playing on cafe
02:11 <Lackadaisical> *situations you cant practice while playing on cafe
02:12 <Lackadaisical> *dont
02:12 <Flex> being on par with defence or sweeper
02:12 <Flex> i guess
02:14 <Lackadaisical> there are instances when i think 'man i wish i knew what my teammate is going to do now' but those are few and far in between tbh
02:15 <Flex> counter strike is a game considered to be team game.. personally i can't think of much situations that you can't play with randoms..
02:15 <Flex> well practicing with randoms
02:15  * madmax senses Lackadaisical spreading terror about the slow descent of fortress team games
02:15 <Lackadaisical> haha
02:15 <Flex> how complex would you want it..
02:18 <madmax> well, in CS you have complex maps and different routes towards the objective
02:18 <madmax> might as well define who goes where and have a balanced attack, for example
02:18 <Flex> he's talking about being able to "practice" and play a specific position with randoms
02:19 <Flex> when i used to practice my usual position for a clan match, i could practice all day without issues on a public server
02:21 <Lackadaisical> i gotta think about this.. but first: sleep
02:21 <Flex> unless my position required a second participant to work, i wouldn't have a problem.. but without practice your clan would be as rusty as hell
02:21 <Lackadaisical> gnight
02:21 <Flex> gn
02:22 <madmax> heh me too
02:22 <madmax> gnight
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07:29 <wrtlprnft> #later tell durka I don't care what version of arma epsy and rain run. The server has bzr and svn and a complete toolchain for building arma.
07:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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17:18 <noob7> quick question about map xml files and zones, can someone have a look at this pastebin.ca/975414 and tell me what the right way of doing it is?
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17:39 <wrtlprnft> noob7: err, the first?
17:39 <wrtlprnft> i'm 99% positive positive that the second one won't work, and 314% positive that the third one won't
17:39 <noob7> ok, all I wanted to know :)
17:39 <noob7> I have like 400 zones and wanted to save some lines
17:40 <noob7> thanks
17:40 <noob7> oh and 13 and monkey got zthread working with the advise you gave :) thanks for the help there as well
17:40 <wrtlprnft> nothing prevents you from not using newlines
17:41 <noob7> how would a list of zones look like with newlines?
17:41 <wrtlprnft> <Zone effect="fortress"><ShapeCircle radius="10" growth="0"><Point x="30" y="310" /></ShapeCircle></Zone>
17:41 <noob7> lol :P
17:41 <wrtlprnft> that's OK, if you have that many zones it might be an option
17:41 <noob7> yeah I might have to do that
17:42 <noob7> the map file is getting confusing as hell already
17:42 <wrtlprnft> yw :) anything to get more auth servers
17:42 <noob7> hehe :P
17:42 <wrtlprnft> 400 zones might be quite framerate-eating, though
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17:43 <noob7> I was kidding, but its quite a lot http://eddie.plantpeanuts.co.uk/maptools/map-preview/ssoan/pacman-0.0.1.png
17:44 <noob7> about half of them done :)
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17:45  * wrtlprnft made a similar map with fewer zones
17:45 <wrtlprnft> should be floating around somewhere
17:46 <noob7> I looked for similar maps and wasnt able to find any, but its a good training :)
17:47 <epsy> hi
17:47 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/fortress/puckmap-1.aamap.xml
17:47 <wrtlprnft> I think i accidentally moved the outer rim, so that would have to be fixed
17:48 <noob7> dang, I am always late to the party :(
17:49 <wrtlprnft> it didn't really work, though :-(
17:49 <wrtlprnft> that's why you don't see it on CTWF, it was originally made for that
17:49 <noob7> why not? :o
17:49 <wrtlprnft> too many zones
17:49 <noob7> hehehe
17:49 <noob7> argh! :D
17:50 <wrtlprnft> feel free to continue yours, though, I made mine with inkscape and it looks like i messed a couple of things up
17:50 <noob7> doing it by hand actually now, was working with illustrator generated svg's first, but something was always screwed one way or a nother
18:06 <epsy> #ping
18:06 <armabot> pong
18:10 <noob7> luke-jr what is the max file size for maps when uploading to the resource repository?
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18:12 <wrtlprnft> noob7: next to nothing. I can upload bigger maps if you give me the file
18:38 <noob7> sorry I was afk, it's here: http://eddie.plantpeanuts.co.uk/maptools/map-preview/ssoan/pacman-0.0.1.png
18:38 <noob7> woops no its not :)
18:38 <noob7> http://mastercontrolprogram.de/files/documents/pacman.xml
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19:12 <wrtlprnft> #ping
19:12 <armabot> pong
19:12 <wrtlprnft> ah, i'm still here
19:13 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, ping
19:14 <K-Yo> we have a Izual ruining café
19:14 <epsy> i can come...
19:14 <epsy> without dri tho
19:14 <K-Yo> without "dri"?
19:16 <epsy> direct rendering
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19:18 <epsy> brb
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19:19 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: details?
19:19 <K-Yo> it's done
19:19 <K-Yo> just tker
19:19 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron
19:19 <K-Yo> the same one as always, with a dyn ip
19:19 <epsy> wrtlprnft, the ban is *only* 10000 mins long
19:20 <epsy> wait...
19:21 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you banned 161.97.198.*
19:21 <epsy> trough, if i remember correctly, Izual has a 181 in it's ip
19:21 <epsy> at least that's what i remember of it
19:22 <epsy> 84.181.115.107
19:22 <epsy> that was the IP i kicked him from
19:23 <wrtlprnft> let's hope he gets bored soon
19:23 <wrtlprnft> can't really do anything
19:26 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8398 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource/upload.suid-php: hopefully fixing the stupid sizelimit bug once and for all
19:26 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
19:28 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i think he's always been on that range
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19:31 <wrtlprnft> noob7: http://beta.armagetronad.net/add-resource/upload.suid-php?filef=/tmp/pacman.xml
19:32 <noob7> Filepath identified as: SSOAN/fortress/pacman-0.0.1.aamap.xml
19:32 <noob7> Click here to add this resource to the repository permanently:
19:32 <noob7> Warning: unlink(/tmp/pacman.xml) [function.unlink]: Operation not permitted in /var/www/armagetron/beta/htdocs/add-resource/upload.suid-php on line 234
19:32 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, than that's another bugger or he got himself a new provider
19:32 <wrtlprnft> noob7: ignore that
19:32 <noob7> when clicking submit: Filepath identified as: SSOAN/fortress/pacman-0.0.1.aamap.xml
19:32 <noob7> ERROR: Your resource is larger than 25 KB. Please contact Luke-Jr to add it to the repository manually.
19:32 <noob7> hehe, I'm at ~45kb :P
19:32 <noob7> :(
19:33 <wrtlprnft> now i see the problem
19:33 <wrtlprnft> it forgets about disabling the size limit
19:33 <wrtlprnft> screw this, try again
19:33 <wrtlprnft> commenting out works as a temporary hack
19:34 <noob7> thanks :)
19:34 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/fortress/pacman-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
19:35 <noob7> preview doesnt work, maybe a filesize problem as well?
19:35 <wrtlprnft> not again...
19:35 <noob7> :D
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19:35 <noob7> sorry wrtlprnft :(
19:38 <wrtlprnft> well, i can't fix that
19:38 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i686-linux/RMagick.so: This version of RMagick was created to run with ImageMagick 6.3.7 (RuntimeError)
19:38 <wrtlprnft> but ImageMagick 6.3.8 is installed on this system. You should either 1) Configure and build RMagick for ImageMagick 6.3.8, or 2) download ImageMagick 6.3.7 from file:///usr/share/doc/imagemagick-6.3.7.9/index.html and install it.
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19:38 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: do the same thing you did last time
19:39 <noob7> ok :) thanks a lot, I'll try crashing my server with the map later
19:40 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
19:42 <Flex> wrtlprnft, i can't seem to get bars ontop of the player cycles like this:
19:42 <Flex> http://82.227.65.72:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_818.png
19:43 <Flex> is the code in your cockpit?
19:43 <Flex> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/testfile-0.0.3.aacockpit.xml
19:52 <wrtlprnft> Flex: yeah
19:52 <wrtlprnft> search for percycle
19:52 <wrtlprnft> err
19:52 <wrtlprnft> just cycle
19:53 <wrtlprnft> argh, use the cockpit in your arma install, it's more up to date
19:53 <wrtlprnft> aabeta won't take it because it uses a newer DTD
19:55 <wrtlprnft> Flex: http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/975613
19:55 <Flex> thank you
19:55 <wrtlprnft> yw
20:14 <Flex> wrtlprnft, i'm confused.. i'm using the old old v0.3 and i'm loading your cockpit untouched.. and i still can't see it
20:14 <Flex> tried all toggles
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20:22 <epsy> wrtlprnft, cycle?
20:24 <wrtlprnft> Flex: that explains everything
20:24 <wrtlprnft> 0.3.0 doesn't have it
20:24 <wrtlprnft> epsy: cycle.
20:25 <epsy> 		<AtomicData field="maximum" source="cycle_rubber" />
20:25 <epsy> that?
20:25 <Flex> ^^
20:25 <wrtlprnft> epsy: no.
20:25 <Flex> isn't epsy using trunk?
20:25 <wrtlprnft> <VerticalBarGauge viewport="cycle" toggle="3">
20:25 <wrtlprnft> that
20:26 <epsy> O_o
20:26 <wrtlprnft> never seen my screenshots?
20:26 <wrtlprnft> those little brake/rubber gauges above each cycle?
20:26 <epsy> i don't find that here <http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/testfile-0.0.3.aacockpit.xml>
20:26 <epsy> i use them myself
20:26 <wrtlprnft> because that file is outdated
20:26 <epsy> ah?
20:26 <wrtlprnft> because luke-jr refuses to allow unversioned DTDs
20:27 <epsy> ok..
20:27 <wrtlprnft> it's the last file that was compatible with the old dtd
20:27 <epsy> brb dinner
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20:27 <epsy> i see
20:28 <Flex> wrtlprnft, can i get it to work on my version? or is it not possible?
20:28 <noob7> oh wrtlprnft, btw, the map works perfect even with 8 players, I didnt notice any fps drops :)
20:28 <wrtlprnft> Flex: no, it's not possible
20:28 <wrtlprnft> noob7: well, ctwf was 14 players at the time i tried it
20:28 <wrtlprnft> and people did complain about lag
20:28 <wrtlprnft> but they always do, so maybe it's OK
20:28 <noob7> I am used to the complaining about lag :D
20:28 <noob7> ;)
20:28 <Flex> wrtlprnft is it possible on trunk?
20:29 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
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23:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/fortress/wolfenstein-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:03 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc4-stkn1-0-0-cust208.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron
23:04 <Monkey_arma> great there is now a player called "foolish monkey" ...it gets worse
23:06 <epsy> there's also a war monkey
23:06 <epsy> soon a RoboMonkey etc etc
23:06 <epsy> #lastseen monkey
23:06 <armabot> epsy: Monkey seems to be on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) right now.
23:06 <epsy> ah
23:06 <epsy> #lastseen "monkey "
23:06 <armabot> epsy: foolish monkey seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
23:06 <epsy> #lastseen " monkey"
23:06 <armabot> epsy: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
23:07 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen % monkey
23:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: foolish monkey seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
23:07 <wrtlprnft> n00bs.
23:07 <epsy> uh...you can do mysql escaping?
23:07 <epsy> :S
23:07 <luke-jr> #lastseen %
23:07 <wrtlprnft> it's a mysql LIKE query
23:07 <armabot> luke-jr:  seems to be on  [IG] Community Server right now.
23:07 <luke-jr> #lastseen %a%
23:08 <armabot> luke-jr: Vela seems to be on SPACEZONE III right now.
23:08 <luke-jr> #lastseen %b%
23:08 <armabot> luke-jr: vita !!!SB!!! seems to be on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. right now.
23:08  * wrtlprnft doesn't see the danger in that
23:08 <wrtlprnft> it's properly escaped, of course
23:08 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen \
23:08 <luke-jr> #lastseen ';DELETE FROM foo;
23:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
23:08 <luke-jr> ☺
23:08 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
23:10 <epsy> #wisdom
23:11 <wrtlprnft> #insight
23:11 <epsy> aw, she died
23:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The reckless threat of rain forests will overhaul modern future values.
23:11  * wrtlprnft agrees
23:11 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen monkey
23:11 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Monkey.D.Luffy has last been seen on  Wild West  =CTF Shooting= 1 minute ago.
23:11 <Monkey_arma> rediculous
23:11 <epsy> haha
23:11 <epsy> ./whois monkey
23:12 <Monkey_arma> ./whois monkey
23:12 <epsy> /whois monkey
23:12 <Monkey_arma> i did that
23:12 <Monkey_arma> got nothing
23:12 <Monkey_arma> i dont exist
23:12 <epsy> * [monkey] (n=monkey@64.244.30.42): monkey
23:12 <epsy> * [monkey] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/
23:12 <epsy> * [Monkey] Fin de la liste WHOIS.
23:12 <epsy> altrough it appeared on the server tab
23:13 <Monkey_arma> aha
23:13 <epsy> same happens with /topic and also with many other things
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23:50 <Monkey_arma> they're taking the piss now
23:50 <Monkey_arma> lastseen $m
23:50 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen $m
23:51 <armabot> Monkey_arma: $m0k3Y___ seems to be on  ~*SpeederS*~ Server right now.
23:51 <madmax> so it's a monkey invasion?
23:51 <Monkey_arma> seems so :|
23:56 <Flex> #rating Monkey
23:57 <Flex> #ping
23:57 <Flex> hello?
23:57 <Monkey_arma> pong
23:57 <Flex> hew
23:59 <Monkey_arma> Monkey is rated #1
23:59 <Monkey_arma> Monkey is rated #1 retard
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