Log from 2009-03-15:
--- Day changed Sun Mar 15 2009
00:00 <luke-jr> animuson: what happened to calling me?
00:00 <luke-jr> is aabeta down for anyone other than animuson? O.o
00:00 <animuson> i dont have ur phone number?
00:00 <animuson> lol
00:00 <luke-jr> everything checks out here
00:00 <luke-jr> animuson: you should
00:01 <luke-jr> [17:15:10] <luke-jr> 402-218-1954
00:01 <animuson> its back up
00:01 <animuson> :P
00:01 <luke-jr> …
00:04 <epsy> Teaser time: http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/
00:07 <sinewave> lol!
00:07 <epsy> all the loading time just for that: pwned
00:07 <epsy> :D
00:07 <smoothice> ?stylesheet for the css
00:07 <smoothice> clever
00:08 <epsy> yeah, I'm limiting everything to one page, so the rest can be 403'd
00:08 <smoothice> yeah
00:09 <epsy> does it at least look nice?
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00:11 <epsy> :-(
00:11 <ivantis> …
00:12 <smoothice> ...
00:12 <ivantis> please do not do something like that
00:12 <smoothice> #m epsy hi
00:12 <ivantis> no "Loading"
00:12 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
00:12 <ivantis> i hate that kind of thing
00:12 <epsy> #ping
00:12 <@armabot> pong
00:12 <ivantis> #ding
00:12 <epsy> smoothice, hi
00:12 <@armabot> dong
00:12 <sinewave> the fff page? looks great. it's got me looking forward to seeing it finished
00:12 <epsy> phew
00:12 <epsy> now I'm gonna deceive you :(
00:13 <sinewave> is the background made with context free art?
00:13 <epsy> no
00:13 <epsy> just gimp
00:13 <epsy> I doubt cfdg could do that
00:13 <epsy> though I can't be sure about that
00:13 <epsy> well, the smoke can't be done with cfdg
00:14 <sinewave> ah
00:14 <epsy> also, regarding flex's bs, I had contacted durka
00:14 <epsy> or FoFo
00:15 <epsy> but we contacted him to ask him if he was still going to be organizing it
00:15 <epsy> it being TST
00:15 <epsy> not I just don't want to chat with flex
00:15 <epsy> s/not/now/
00:16 <epsy> DUH HE'S WASTING MY HAPPY MOOD
00:16 * epsy wipes his mouse and closes the tab
00:16 <animuson> anyone know a good fortress config file?
00:16 <animuson> other than the default ones that come with the game
00:16 <animuson> :-/
00:17 <epsy> these are fine enough
00:17 <epsy> if you don't have it, for some reason, you can either download it from launchpad or use my compilation: http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/epsy@x/config/fortress/base.cfg
00:18 <smoothice> epsy:
00:18 <smoothice> epsy: hi wassup
00:19 <epsy> nothing special, you?
00:20 <smoothice> nuthin much
00:20 * epsy couldn't resist it
00:20 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204806#204806
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00:42 <epsy> @base 16 10 39
00:42 <teabot> epsy: 57
00:42 <epsy> @base 16 10 29
00:42 <teabot> epsy: 41
00:43 <epsy> @base 16 10 3A
00:43 <teabot> epsy: 58
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00:43 <joda_bot> epsy: extracting colors ? :-)
00:44 <epsy> no, characters
00:44 <joda_bot> heh
00:44 <epsy> wordpress buggin me :(
00:44 <joda_bot> what's the problem ?
00:45 <epsy> been trying to put a smiley as title=""
00:45 <epsy> it ate the whole img
00:45 <joda_bot> uh,?
00:45 <joda_bot> which wordpress version do you use ?
00:45 <epsy> http://playfortress.wordpress.com/
00:45 <joda_bot> I guess it's more a broken "simlie" extention ?
00:45 <epsy> #eliza which wordpress version do I use?
00:45 <@armabot> epsy: What do you think?
00:46 <epsy> no, it's just it didn't like either the : or the )
00:46 <epsy> do it dropped the whole <img> as text
00:47 <joda_bot> eh, whatever, looks fixed ? :D
00:47 <epsy> well yeah
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00:47 <epsy> you clicked the link, I hope
00:48 <animuson> does everytime.cfg get included before or after ROUND_COMMENCING is written to the ladderlog?
00:48 <epsy> or do I really need to put a 3px wide blue border ? :D
00:48 <epsy> before
00:50 <luke-jr> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/epsy@x/config/fortress/base.cfg <-- we should make that work by default XD
00:50 <luke-jr> eg, have @x query the authority for a repository
00:50 <epsy> GID authors or the cfg?
00:50 <epsy> hm
00:51 <luke-jr> and let the authority provide a normal 403
00:52 <luke-jr> if author contains '@', ?query=resource&filepath=epsy@x/config/fortress/base.cfg
00:52 <epsy> that would be neat if we could upload resources using our GIDs as author names
00:52 <luke-jr> epsy: that too
00:53 <epsy> do you plan on ever doing that?
00:53 <luke-jr> in fact, maybe we should promote that over my idea
00:53 <luke-jr> epsy: why are you asking me? :x
00:53 <luke-jr> epsy: the code is right there… :/
00:53 <epsy> well, you seem to be the resource repo guy
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00:53 <epsy> path?
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00:53 <luke-jr> https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource
00:54 <epsy> ok, I'll check it out
00:54 <luke-jr> I'd make it a library tho
00:54 <luke-jr> digest HTTP auth *should* be possible w/ armathentication
00:54 <epsy> ah
00:54 <epsy> there is already
00:54 <luke-jr> ?
00:55 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-http-auth-client-work
00:55 * luke-jr notes all the current system is is a htpasswd file
00:55 <Lucifer> Lackadaisical: I usually specificy fonts as Helvetica, Arial, Courier, iirc.
00:55 <epsy> ewww heh
00:55 <Lucifer> so if Helvetica is available, it's always my first pick, but windows usually gets Arial because Helvetica is really just a Free version of Arial anyway ;)
00:56 <Lucifer> Lackadaisical: you have svn write access to the website stuff, right?
00:56 <Lucifer> I don't think we've moved that stuff to bzr yet
00:56 * ivantis notes that luke-jr just used an "isis"
00:56 <Lucifer> it may not even make sense to put it into bzr, that was a decision we delegated to some future time
00:56 <luke-jr> ivantis: so?
00:56 <epsy> Lucifer, by the way, are me and babybug supposed to be allowed to change topics?
00:56 <ivantis> you couldnt find a way around it?
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00:56 <Lucifer> epsy: beats me, whatever armabot lets you do
00:57 <luke-jr> epsy: that doesn't seem to use HTTP auth properly
00:57 <luke-jr> ivantis: why bother?
00:57 <Lucifer> but you're really supposed to just kick smegheads when they're causing trouble and nobody else is around to help :)
00:57 <ivantis> why not?
00:57 <Lackadaisical> I don't know.. I've only used svn once to try and upload screenshots
00:57 <epsy> Lucifer, it lets us take op, but as soon as we change the topic chanserv resets it and takes my op
00:57 <ivantis> ownt
00:57 <epsy> #op
00:57 <Lucifer> epsy: guru3 probably has some sort of enforcement on it, and that's fine
00:58 <luke-jr> epsy: … why does this try to implement HTTP itself? :/
00:58 <ivantis> "Hey, you changing the topic? Deop!"
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00:58 <Lucifer> the reason for op-via-armabot is to let more people help kicking smegheads and other friends of luke-jr
00:58 <epsy> luke-jr, uh?
00:58 <luke-jr> epsy: GET blah blah
00:59 <Lucifer> Lackadaisical: iirc, we picked up you and edd at the same time, you to work on the websites (since at the time we were growing websites faster than my whiskers grow), and edd to do graphical design
00:59 <epsy> are you talking about something under phase1-3 ?
00:59 <luke-jr> maybe
00:59 <Lucifer> and since you had already done most of the web design already, you were the obvious pick ;)
00:59 <luke-jr> yes
00:59 <epsy> that's guru3's work
00:59 <epsy> it's rather difficult to trust as a user
00:59 <epsy> IMO
01:00 <epsy> passwords are transmitted raw to the middle man
01:00 <luke-jr> epsy: that's why I wouldn't use it? ☺
01:00 <Lackadaisical> heh maybe that's true i recall sending you at least something about a redesign but I couldn't find it in my inbox anymore
01:00 <luke-jr> hm
01:00 <luke-jr> Konq doesn't show whether auth is secure either
01:00 <Lackadaisical> and that would explain why i approached you instead of tank or someone else
01:00 <luke-jr> nor does FF :<
01:00 <epsy> webform allows it not not go thru the middle at all but uses a different scheme
01:01 <epsy> that means authority support
01:01 <luke-jr> epsy: ew
01:01 <ivantis> whats FF?
01:01 <epsy> luke-jr, problem is that it is 1/ transmitted raw
01:01 <luke-jr> FireFox crap
01:01 <epsy> 2/ hard to verify anything
01:01 <ivantis> oh firefox
01:01 <luke-jr> epsy: the problem is that browsers suck :<
01:01 <luke-jr> anyone want to make a nice Firefox plugin?
01:01 <epsy> luke-jr, it is rather simple to install
01:01 <ivantis> i see. wow it feels really weird typing with Win+3 on
01:01 <epsy> it's in the http-auth-server package already
01:02 <luke-jr> epsy: it's spoofable
01:02 <epsy> the webform one?
01:02 <epsy> it is, if the user doesn't pay attention
01:02 <luke-jr> the only secure way to do this is a plugin IMO
01:02 <ivantis> all webforms are spoofable
01:02 <epsy> true
01:02 <ivantis> everything client side is spoofable
01:02 <epsy> but phase1-3 is really easy to spoof if the users doesn't look 3 hours at the code
01:02 <luke-jr> epsy: I guess for now people would need to just trust aabeta
01:03 <ivantis> its so gross that we live in a world where you cant trust people not to do mean stuff when they find a security flaw
01:03 <luke-jr> neither phase1-3 nor webform are standards compliant either
01:03 <epsy> ie. ?
01:03 <epsy> well, I think guru3 could upgrade his auth server
01:04 <epsy> which could be used as a sample of Lackadaisical's design by the way
01:04 <luke-jr> ie, 401 Unauthorized w/ WWW-Authenticate header
01:04 <epsy> does AAGID define that?
01:05 <luke-jr> epsy: HTTP does
01:06 <luke-jr> this is on the CLIENT end
01:06 <epsy> link?
01:06 <luke-jr> between client and res repo
01:06 <luke-jr> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html#sec10.4.2
01:06 <epsy> wait, what's the actual problem?
01:06 <epsy> ah
01:07 <luke-jr> epsy: phase/webform are abusing HTML <form> for authentication
01:07 <luke-jr> when HTTP already has a more secure standard
01:07 <luke-jr> especially when used with the digest algo
01:07 <luke-jr> which unfortunately browsers don't inform the user
01:07 <epsy> so does 90%+ of the websites actually out there
01:07 <epsy> and actually it's up to the webmaster to use a <form> or not
01:08 <luke-jr> using a form isn't standards compliant
01:08 <epsy> it's how it's done in the test.php, but one could have it's client do id_rsa auth
01:08 <luke-jr> that's why we have nonsense hacks to remember passwords
01:08 <luke-jr> if everyone used HTTP auth, password remembering would be simple
01:09 <luke-jr> the only weakness in HTTP auth is that you can't logout with most browsers
01:09 <luke-jr> but that's a client bug
01:09 <epsy> again, it's up to the webmaster, entirely
01:09 <epsy> on webform, at least
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01:11 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
01:11 <@armabot> pong
01:11 <Your_mom_arma> overlay?
01:12 <epsy> luke-jr, also, an enourmous flaw:
01:12 <epsy> javascript:window.open("http://78.192.34.55:8080/~epsy/tst.armagetron.co.uk")
01:12 <epsy> check your address bar when the prompt shows up
01:13 <epsy> that makes detecting spoofing impossible until you've actually got spoofed
01:14 <epsy> wether it may be valid or not, it just HAS to be NEVER used
01:15 <Your_mom_arma> is zmanuel still around?
01:15 <zmanuel> no :)
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> okay, fair enough
01:16 <zmanuel> Just kidding. I'm around.
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> you got me :D
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> overlay?
01:17 <zmanuel> Yeah, the bit that shows the players that are on Mumble even in fullscreen games.
01:17 <luke-jr> epsy: uh, no?
01:17 <luke-jr> my addressbar has the URI
01:17 <epsy> firefox has not
01:17 <luke-jr> and the prompt clearly says "Was something meant to be here, huh? ;) at 78.192.34.55
01:17 <luke-jr> firefox bug
01:17 <luke-jr> report it
01:18 <epsy> yeah, firefox bug
01:18 <Your_mom_arma> oh, its in expert config
01:19 <epsy> I doubt you really know anything about webdevelopement luke..it's almost entirely about working around browser bug
01:19 <epsy> the last tiny bit is the actual fun part
01:19 <Your_mom_arma> yep, disabling that fixed it
01:20 <zmanuel> Hmm. Of course, the overlay is one of the key features of Mumble.
01:20 <epsy> couldn't it be integrated into the HUD?
01:20 <epsy> how do other games do?
01:20 <zmanuel> Possibly, but we'd need to poll info from mumble.
01:21 <Your_mom_arma> I play arma in window mode anyway
01:21 <zmanuel> Ah. then you don't need the overlay. And it may be related.
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01:33 <Your_mom_arma> thanks for the help.
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01:36 <luke-jr> epsy: I isolate my workarounds.
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01:42 <luke-jr> hi ct|kyle
01:42 <ct|kyle> oi luke-jr
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01:47 <luke-jr> :<
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01:53 <joda_bot> gn8
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10:56 <guru3> good morning everybody
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11:38 <Lucifer> morning guru3 (hi there!)
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12:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r935 Taught attacker to aim for the gap for insertion attacks....
12:23 <Lucifer> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/fda_approves_salmonella
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15:09 <smoothice> ct|kyle: say... wanna df?
15:09 <smoothice> #ls +|smo
15:09 <ct|kyle> smoothice: not now
15:09 <smoothice> :(
15:09 <@armabot> smoothice: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ right now.
15:10 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok
15:10 <smoothice> epsy: say... wanna df?
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15:21 <Chinaren> hello?
15:21 <epsy> df?
15:21 <epsy> hi Chinaren
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15:21 <smoothice> epsy: dog fight
15:22 <compguygene> hi
15:22 <epsy> smoothice, the arbitrary rules "gametype" ?
15:22 <smoothice> yo compguydude
15:22 <smoothice> epsy: 1
15:22 <epsy> no thanks
15:22 <smoothice> epsy: mls
15:22 <smoothice> lms
15:22 <smoothice> compguygene: hows fff coming
15:22 <epsy> I don't have time now, and I would only play it if it was enforced by settings
15:22 <epsy> compguygene, #.tourneys
15:23 <compguygene> on my way
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16:11 <smoothice> epsy: how can I compile one armagetron binary
16:12 <smoothice> epsy: and then run multiple isntances of it for multiple servers
16:12 <smoothice> epsy: what flags do I need to pass to it for it to work correctly?
16:13 <Vanhayes> #tea
16:13 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): 'rope, pruWord (Word@forums), stax, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, |A|--->, ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums)
16:14 <smoothice> compgygene: ^... it looks like for the server pharm you use one binary and run it multiple times.. how do you do that with different settings? userconfigdir and vardir?
16:14 <ct|kyle> smoothice: --prefix /path/to/bin/
16:14 <smoothice> ?
16:14 <smoothice> ct|kyle: huh?
16:15 <ct|kyle> if you set a perfix and then run it with that prefix you can run it multiple times
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16:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: actually you should be able to compile it anyway and then set it up to run on any server LOL
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16:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle: can I just make a shell script for each server
16:23 <smoothice> and a settings folder
16:23 <smoothice> and a var folder
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16:26 <smoothice> ct|kyle: what is userconfigdir vs. configdir?
16:29 <ct|kyle> smoothice yes
16:32 <dlh> userconfig is where you keep your config files. configdir holds the default ones
16:33 <smoothice> dlh: so settings_custom.cfg would be the only file in userconfigdir
16:34 <smoothice> dlh: and/or server_info.cfg
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16:35 <dlh> right, but you could set userdata dir and everything else would be all set
16:35 <smoothice> dlh: there's a userdatadir?
16:36 <dlh> yea, look here: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Configuration_Files
16:36 <smoothice> ok thanks
16:37 <smoothice> dlh: I was thinking of just setting userconfigdir and vardir
16:37 <smoothice> dlh: then leave the rest to default
16:37 <smoothice> dlh: wouldn't that work?
16:38 <dlh> Yea, that should also work.
16:40 <smoothice> dlh: ok
16:40 <epsy> @aawikis multiple instances
16:40 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Making_Maps_by_Hand - Making Maps by Hand - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
16:40 <smoothice> wow
16:40 <epsy> okay
16:40 <smoothice> fail
16:40 <smoothice> :P
16:40 <epsy> @aawikis multiple instances linux
16:40 <teabot> epsy: no results for: multiple instances linux site:wiki.armagetronad.net
16:40 <epsy> @aawikis multiple dedicated linux
16:41 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer - Running Multiple Servers on a single Linux computer - Armagetron ...
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16:41 <smoothice> thanks epsy døød
16:42 <smoothice> lol
16:42 <SuPeRTaRD> re
16:42 <SuPeRTaRD> did i miss anything?
16:42 <epsy> yeah
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16:45 <SuPeRTaRD> hi fonkay
16:46 <SuPeRTaRD> lack, luci, etc... ltns
16:57 <joda_bot> SuPeRTaRD: hi
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17:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle: checking for ZTHREAD - version >= 2.3.2... yes
17:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle: :D
17:19 <SuPeRTaRD> bbl, nap & i have an old decreped laptop...
17:19 * SuPeRTaRD moved to montana
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18:20 <smoothice> dlh: vardir and userconfigdir work! thanks so much!
18:28 <dlh> smoothice: great :)
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18:35 <smoothice> dlh: what is spawn_point_group_size?
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18:47 <Pathetique> #ls 3ff3c
18:47 <armabot> Pathetique: 3ff3ct seems to be on QuantumPerformance =Dog Fight= right now.
18:48 <MrBougo> lol, QuantumPerformance
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18:51 <smoothice> Anyone want to test a server?
18:51 <smoothice> Pig Sty?
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18:51 <Pathetique> sure
18:52 <Pathetique> For 9 minutes though
18:52 <Pathetique> I have to get ready for wwork then :(
18:52 <Pathetique> #si death
18:52 <armabot> Pathetique: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
18:52 <Pathetique> no
18:52 <Pathetique> rofl
18:53 <MrBougo> pig sty?
18:53 <MrBougo> is groundpig still around?
18:53 <MrBougo> I remember he had been away for some time when I left
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18:57 <Pathetique> #ls 3ff3ct
18:57 <armabot> Pathetique: 3ff3ct has last been seen on QuantumPerformance =Dog Fight= 7 minutes ago.
18:57 <Pathetique> oh well
18:57 <Pathetique> cu all
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18:59 <ivantis2> how do i miss this?
18:59 <ivantis2> Pathetique, come back!
19:00 <ivantis2> one of the only people who doesnt hate me
19:00 <ivantis2> #ls Pathetique
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19:00 <armabot> ivantis2: .dBd|Pathetique has last been seen on QuantumPerformance =Dog Fight= 5 minutes ago.
19:01 <ivantis2> #help ls
19:01 <armabot> ivantis2: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
19:01 <ivantis2> #help lastseen
19:01 <armabot> ivantis2: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
19:02 <madmax> #ls madmax
19:02 <madmax> :O
19:03 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
19:03 <armabot> madmax: madmax has last been seen on WILDCAT 4 hours 43 minutes ago.
19:04 <madmax> ^ not me
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19:09 <ivantis> #ping
19:09 -!- ivantis [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
19:09 <armabot> pong
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19:17 <sinewave> #ls sine.wav
19:17 <armabot> sinewave: sine.wav has last been seen on .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress 11 hours 0 minutes ago.
19:17 <sinewave> ;)
19:17 <smoothice> sinewave; wanna come test/
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19:18 <ivantis2> i do
19:18 <smoothice> ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~ Version: 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090315 unix dedicated
19:18 <ivantis2> custom connect info?
19:18 <smoothice> list
19:18 <smoothice> master list
19:18 <ivantis2> i dont like using teh master list
19:18 <ivantis2> #sd -v night walker
19:19 <smoothice> #si -v ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~
19:19 <armabot> ivantis2: ~Night Walker's Central~CTF~ (24.123.46.132:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20080720 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “Have fun, no cussing. Paid for by Beanie Hosted by Flynn's Arcade!“, Players (0/8):
19:19 <smoothice> I don't remember what ports it's on
19:19 <smoothice> wow
19:19 <smoothice> totally wrong
19:19 <armabot> smoothice: ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~ (66.71.249.140:4537) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090315 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “The new shooting server from ~NW! Have fun!“, Players (0/8):
19:19 <smoothice> oh
19:19 <smoothice> k
19:19 <ivantis2> shut up! i cant read it when you keep scrolling it
19:20 <sinewave> be there in a minute...
19:21 <ivantis2> smoothice, you gonna be playing? AIs for CTF suck
19:21 <smoothice> yep
19:22 <ivantis2> oh wrong server
19:22 <smoothice> ...
19:22 <ivantis2> i went to the first one
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19:27 <dlh> #ls -g dlh@generalconsumption.org
19:27 <armabot> dlh: free kill has last been seen on Fortress Café 39 minutes ago.
19:27 <smoothice> #ls -g smoothice@forums
19:28 <armabot> smoothice: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~ right now.
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g time
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@x/member
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@x
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@ct
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@forums
19:28 <smoothice> #echo @echo hi
19:28 <epsy> did I forget anything?
19:28 <epsy> smoothice, wont work
19:28 <dlh> #ls epsy
19:29 <epsy> it's busy on the first one :P
19:29 <epsy> #ping
19:29 <epsy> or I did crash it
19:29 <smoothice> #echo hi
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19:30 <epsy> @ls epsy@x/member
19:30 <smoothice> nice going
19:30 <epsy> @ls -g epsy@x/member
19:30 <epsy> @ping
19:30 <epsy> or it's just a netsplit
19:30 <dlh> how many short-name authorities are there?
19:30 <epsy> ask guru3
19:30 <smoothice> how can I get a short-name authorityh?
19:31 <dlh> I don't understand why we have them
19:31 <epsy> @g short authority armagetronad
19:31 <epsy> it's shorter :D
19:31 <MrBougo> fail
19:32 <epsy> smoothice, google for yourself
19:32 <epsy> actually, mine went boom
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
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19:33 <epsy> omg what did you do smoothice
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19:33 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “time” yet, sorry.
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <armabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ has last been seen on Fortress Café 4 hours 11 minutes ago.
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> lol
19:34 <epsy> @admin ignore *smoothice*!*@*
19:34 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice don't do that
19:34 <epsy> @owner ignore *smoothice*!*@*
19:34 <dlh> hehe: http://x.authentication.armagetronad.net/sacrifice.php
19:34 <smoothice> dammit!
19:34 <smoothice> haha
19:34 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “epsy@x” yet, sorry.
19:34 <smoothice> armabot isnt op
19:34 <smoothice> FAIL!
19:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: FAIL!
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> lol
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <armabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ has last been seen on Fortress Café 9 days 3 hours 12 minutes ago.
19:34 <smoothice> thanks man!
19:34 <smoothice> lol
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: assistance plz
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “epsy@forums” yet, sorry.
19:34 <smoothice> epsy: quit teabot
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <epsy> @part
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:35 <smoothice> control c!
19:35 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
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19:35 <smoothice> dammit..
19:35 <smoothice> yay
19:35 <armabot> @echo hi
19:35 <smoothice> hi
19:35 <smoothice> wow
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19:35 <smoothice> .hi
19:35 <armabot> pong
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19:35 <luke-jr> z-manuel: wrtlprnft guru3
19:35 <smoothice> wtf?
19:35 <armabot> dlh: timed out
19:35 <epsy> @ignore add *smoothice*!*@*
19:36 <dlh> thanks armabot
19:36 <armabot> hi
19:36 <madmax> -_-
19:36 <z-manuel> what?
19:36 <luke-jr> z-manuel: smoothice needs a lesson
19:36 -!- z-manuel is now known as z-man
19:36 <teabot> epsy: Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
19:36 <epsy> @admin ignore add *smoothice*!*@*
19:36 <z-man> I'm not an admin.
19:36 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:36 <luke-jr> z-man: Chanserv lists you as +o
19:36 <luke-jr> z-man: /msg chanserv op #armagetron
19:37 <luke-jr> /mode #armagetron +o armabot
19:37 <z-man> I don't care what Chanserv says :)
19:37 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I need to be opped to kick someone.
19:37 <epsy> #ping
19:37 <luke-jr> z-man: you're the only ChanServ-op around atm, I think
19:37 <luke-jr> plz op armabot
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19:38 <smoothice> guru3 is
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19:38 <luke-jr> ………..
19:38 <ivantis2> ..
19:38 <luke-jr> so much for opping armabot
19:38 <z-man> luke-jr: I don't want to bother learning how to admin IRC.
19:38 <ivantis2> yeah she left
19:38 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron
19:38 <luke-jr> z-man: meh, I just told you the two commands. :/
19:38 <luke-jr> #ping
19:39 <epsy> #channel ignore *smoothice*!*@*
19:39 <smoothice> :O
19:39 <luke-jr> Combined into one cmd: /msg chanserv op #armagetron armabot
19:39 <smoothice> are you serious?
19:39 <smoothice> I'll be forced to bring in armastybot then
19:39 <armabot> pong
19:39 <luke-jr> smoothice: good thing we have bans
19:39 <armabot> epsy: Error: 'supybot.ignore' is not a valid configuration variable.
19:39 <smoothice> fail
19:40 <epsy> #channel ignore add *smoothice*!*@*
19:40 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:40 <smoothice> @say hi
19:40 <smoothice> #say hi
19:40 <smoothice> ]say #ls +|SmOoThice~NW
19:40 <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
19:40 <smoothice> ]echo #ls +|SmOoThice~NW
19:40 <ljrbot> #ls +|SmOoThice~NW
19:40 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add smoothice
19:40 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:40 <smoothice> ...
19:41 <armabot> ljrbot: +|SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on SPACE-LAB Shooting! 4 minutes ago.
19:41 <ljrbot> armabot: Error: "+|SmOoThice~NW" is not a valid command.
19:41 <smoothice> wewt
19:41 <epsy> #channel ignore *bot*!*@*
19:41 <armabot> epsy: Error: 'supybot.ignore' is not a valid configuration variable.
19:41 <epsy> #channel ignore add *bot*!*@*
19:41 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:41 <epsy> ]echo #ping
19:41 <ljrbot> #ping
19:41 -!- smoothice is now known as smooth
19:41 <smooth> #echo hi
19:41 <luke-jr> z-man: please
19:41 <epsy> you are heading for a ban
19:42 <smooth> fine
19:42 <epsy> so don't do it
19:42 -!- smooth is now known as smoothice
19:42 <armabot> hi
19:42 <ivantis2> m]]]\
19:42 <smoothice> go head
19:42 <epsy> smoothice, done?
19:42 <smoothice> ban me
19:42 <smoothice> :D
19:42 <ivantis2> ?";no you do not want to br bnned. it is very boring without this place to be able to go to
19:43 <smoothice> #armagetron-0.3-sty
19:43 <luke-jr> epsy: have tronner kickban smoothice from 0.3-sty ;D
19:44 <epsy> uhm, how?
19:44 <luke-jr> epsy: he's op there
19:44 <epsy> and what do I do with that?
19:44 <luke-jr> don't you have tronner admin?
19:44 <epsy> no
19:44 <luke-jr> aw
19:44 <ivantis2> not another place i am banned from!
19:44 <smoothice> yep
19:44 <smoothice> that's right
19:44 <luke-jr> ]help kban
19:44 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (kban [<channel>] [--{exact,nick,user,host}] <nick> [<seconds>] [<reason>]) -- If you have the #channel,op capability, this will kickban <nick> for as many seconds as you specify, or else (if you specify 0 seconds or don't specify a number of seconds) it will ban the person indefinitely. --exact bans only the exact hostmask; --nick bans just the nick; --user bans just the user, and (1 more message)
19:45 <luke-jr> i c
19:45 <luke-jr> why the heck supybot devs can't name it 'kickban' or 'ban' is beyond me ;/
19:45 <epsy> I don't know
19:45 <luke-jr> ]alias add kickban kban
19:45 <epsy> @help kickban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:45 <luke-jr> ]alias add ban kban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:45 <teabot> epsy: (kickban <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "kban $*".
19:45 <luke-jr> ]lock ban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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19:45 <luke-jr> ]lock kickban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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20:02 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/Race/Fire_Palace-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
20:02 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/ID/Twigs-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
20:03 <akira_arma> #tea
20:03 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -»|hoop, 1200, @<_^)JOeW(^_>@, CT_emphasis, doink, Hype, ikono, killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), orly?, Player 1, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby
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20:11 <smoothice> PinkTomato: :D
20:11 <smoothice> PinkTomato: http://smootharma.ath.cx/serverstatus.php
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/Race/Holiday-1.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
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22:12 <akira_arma> dlh:
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22:44 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r760 Merge from trunk...
22:49 <akira_arma> could anyone help me building tron on windows? :)
22:49 <akira_arma> codeblocks gives me this: Armagetron Advanced - Win32 Debug" uses an invalid compiler. Probably the toolchain path within the compiler options is not setup correctly?
22:50 <z-man> nope, never had that.
22:50 <akira_arma> ah
22:50 <akira_arma> seems i nreally need stupid mingw
22:51 <epsy> you kinda need a compiler to compile anything
22:51 <akira_arma> but they have a 600MB installer :(
22:51 <akira_arma> yea i thought codeblocks would come with compilers...
22:51 <epsy> there's an installer with compilers included afaik
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22:52 <akira_arma> true
22:53 <akira_arma> i got the wrong one :(
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23:12 <akira_arma> ok i built it.. but it didnt build an .exe file
23:15 <dlh> Following this step? http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Windows_Development#Building_Armagetron_Advanced
23:16 <akira_arma> ah oops forgot to checkout some other stuff
23:16 <akira_arma> :/
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23:18 <akira_arma> ok i am just confused over one thing
23:18 <akira_arma> I have the directories from your build dlh
23:19 <akira_arma> but i also need them from trunk
23:19 <akira_arma> where do i put them? :)
23:19 <akira_arma> <- newb!
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23:24 <akira_arma> nvm
23:27 <akira_arma> i had the wrong directory structure
23:27 <akira_arma> it seems..
23:35 <akira_arma> argh
23:35 <akira_arma> why doesn't it build the .exe :(
23:36 <akira_arma> i followed the instructions!
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23:38 <akira_arma> ah
23:38 <dlh> akira_arma: the armagetronad-old-glancing directory is the source folder for the game.
23:38 <akira_arma> f:/Program Files/CodeBlocks/MinGW/bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.5/../../../../include/ctype.h:169: error: ambiguates old declaration `int isblank(int)'
23:38 <dlh> so I guess for windows building it should be called armagetronad
23:38 <dlh> i'm not sure if it matters
23:38 <akira_arma> compiler gives me an error about 1 line
23:38 <dlh> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Windows_Development#Troubleshooting
23:39 <akira_arma> ah
23:39 <akira_arma> being able to read is sure a good thing :/
23:44 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
23:44 <armabot> pong
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23:46 <akira_arma> now it gives me tons of errors in network authentication xD
23:47 <akira_arma> authetification*
23:47 <dlh> Use http://rafb.net/paste/ and paste the errors there
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