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[2026-03-21 02:29:12] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:svebus878_42790| guys in the server for newer users there is a guy who posted some scam photos in the channel chat-and-help
[2026-03-21 02:29:12] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:svebus878_42790| guys in the server for newer users there is a guy who posted some scam photos in the channel chat-and-help
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[2026-03-21 04:21:50] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| What's in the pipeline has the MAX_FPS settings, by @wwnelg , IIRC. It has no menu entry, though. It's a bit difficult because we have no 'enter number' menu item, and giving it any increase/decrease step probably is also wrong... I'll try (https://gitlab.com/armagetronad/armagetronad/-/work_items/164).
[2026-03-21 04:21:50] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| What's in the pipeline has the MAX_FPS settings, by @wwnelg , IIRC. It has no menu entry, though. It's a bit difficult because we have no 'enter number' menu item, and giving it any increase/decrease step probably is also wrong... I'll try (https://gitlab.com/armagetronad/armagetronad/-/work_items/164).
[2026-03-21 04:21:50] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| But there is no good default value. With vsync off, you maybe want it at 3x your monitor refresh to limit tearing on one hand and minimize latency on the other... there are 600 Hz monitors out there, and before I looked I though 480 was the max.... With vsync off and VRR, you actually want it slightly BELOW your monitor's refresh rate because that gives you minimal latency (the s <clipped message>
[2026-03-21 04:21:51] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| But there is no good default value. With vsync off, you maybe want it at 3x your monitor refresh to limit tearing on one hand and minimize latency on the other... there are 600 Hz monitors out there, and before I looked I though 480 was the max.... With vsync off and VRR, you actually want it slightly BELOW your monitor's refresh rate because that gives you minimal latency (the s <clipped message>
[2026-03-21 04:21:52] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| equence is then WAIT, PROCESS INPUT, PROCESS GAME, RENDER, SHOW with no further delays between input and stuff showing on screen). And if you want it for resource use minimization, you want it at 40 or so (with VRR, ideally).
[2026-03-21 04:21:53] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| equence is then WAIT, PROCESS INPUT, PROCESS GAME, RENDER, SHOW with no further delays between input and stuff showing on screen). And if you want it for resource use minimization, you want it at 40 or so (with VRR, ideally).
[2026-03-21 04:21:53] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Heh, maybe I check what happens if you set it to 3000, see how long it takes to bring it down. Someone is still going to get mad if we do this 🙂
[2026-03-21 04:21:54] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Heh, maybe I check what happens if you set it to 3000, see how long it takes to bring it down. Someone is still going to get mad if we do this 🙂
[2026-03-21 04:22:43] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| YES I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3000 and 4000 FPS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE METER HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME??
[2026-03-21 04:22:43] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| YES I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3000 and 4000 FPS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE METER HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME??
[2026-03-21 04:23:18] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| We could hack the FPS counter to show what the framerate WOULD be without the limit, harrr.
[2026-03-21 04:23:18] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| We could hack the FPS counter to show what the framerate WOULD be without the limit, harrr.
[2026-03-21 04:46:48] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| recalls me audiovoodo
[2026-03-21 04:46:48] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| recalls me audiovoodo
[2026-03-21 05:44:07] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| OTOH, those people who want their high frame rates are more likely to find the setting to change than the people who are wondering why their laptop gets so hot. I'm considering setting the limit to 360 or something, which is still high enough that it should have no meaningful impact on latency. And if someone gets mad about it... let them get mad, they probably made other bad lif <clipped message>
[2026-03-21 05:44:07] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| OTOH, those people who want their high frame rates are more likely to find the setting to change than the people who are wondering why their laptop gets so hot. I'm considering setting the limit to 360 or something, which is still high enough that it should have no meaningful impact on latency. And if someone gets mad about it... let them get mad, they probably made other bad lif <clipped message>
[2026-03-21 05:44:08] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| e decisions and are terrible people and probably deserve getting mad 🙂
[2026-03-21 05:44:08] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| e decisions and are terrible people and probably deserve getting mad 🙂
[2026-03-21 06:31:57] <Sauss-Ente> is this a game or a benchmark program?
[2026-03-21 06:31:58] <armagetronbridge> 12irc:Sauss-Ente| is this a game or a benchmark program?
[2026-03-21 07:07:56] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:nyxthepyxie| this is so hard, i'm trying to make a cfg where i can load in local custom game so i can practice, but can't seem to wrap my head around how
[2026-03-21 07:07:56] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:nyxthepyxie| this is so hard, i'm trying to make a cfg where i can load in local custom game so i can practice, but can't seem to wrap my head around how
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[2026-03-21 07:22:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'd say the vast majority of monitors are a multiple of 30fps, so anything based on that would be fine. We're not really attracting the super-duper-mega-gamers at the moment anyway, these are mostly adolescents and young adults who have midrange equipment or have focused on performance elsewhere. 
[2026-03-21 07:22:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'd say the vast majority of monitors are a multiple of 30fps, so anything based on that would be fine. We're not really attracting the super-duper-mega-gamers at the moment anyway, these are mostly adolescents and young adults who have midrange equipment or have focused on performance elsewhere. 
[2026-03-21 07:22:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We could also pre-fabricate an autoexec with some of these basic configs - that would also solve the problem of actually getting people to make it, which is getting harder to do without lots of complication. 
[2026-03-21 07:22:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We could also pre-fabricate an autoexec with some of these basic configs - that would also solve the problem of actually getting people to make it, which is getting harder to do without lots of complication. 
[2026-03-21 07:22:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I reckon 0.5 should add some in-client configurability for this. I'll add that to the pin board later.
[2026-03-21 07:22:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I reckon 0.5 should add some in-client configurability for this. I'll add that to the pin board later.
[2026-03-21 08:11:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ennvvii| yes
[2026-03-21 08:11:23] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:ennvvii| yes
[2026-03-21 15:22:39] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Here's a build with the FPS Limit menu item: https://download.armagetronad.org/blog/2026/03/21/build-alpha-0.2.9.3_alpha_z3190/ It's next to VSync (because these two belong together), in the screen setup.
[2026-03-21 15:22:39] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Here's a build with the FPS Limit menu item: https://download.armagetronad.org/blog/2026/03/21/build-alpha-0.2.9.3_alpha_z3190/ It's next to VSync (because these two belong together), in the screen setup.
[2026-03-21 15:41:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh *nice*
[2026-03-21 15:41:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh *nice*
[2026-03-21 15:42:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| how does this save the fps limit? In an autoexec, or user.cfg?
[2026-03-21 15:42:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| how does this save the fps limit? In an autoexec, or user.cfg?
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[2026-03-21 17:03:18] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| it's going to be user.cfg. autoexec.cfg never gets written to from the game itself
[2026-03-21 17:03:18] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| it's going to be user.cfg. autoexec.cfg never gets written to from the game itself
[2026-03-21 17:03:55] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| of course any settings you put in autoexec.cfg override the ones in user.cfg
[2026-03-21 17:03:55] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| of course any settings you put in autoexec.cfg override the ones in user.cfg
[2026-03-21 17:37:31] <delinquent> I was wondering, because I posited the idea of auto-generating an autoexec. It seems more user-friendly to put commonly altered settings there
[2026-03-21 17:37:31] <armagetronbridge> 11irc:delinquent| I was wondering, because I posited the idea of auto-generating an autoexec. It seems more user-friendly to put commonly altered settings there
[2026-03-21 20:56:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| Some of us like to plan tron meetups. I created a discord server for this. It's not meant to be specific to the US crowd. If more join, I'll make some of the other area gamers admin so you can create your own channels and whatnot.
[2026-03-21 20:56:04] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| Some of us like to plan tron meetups. I created a discord server for this. It's not meant to be specific to the US crowd. If more join, I'll make some of the other area gamers admin so you can create your own channels and whatnot.
[2026-03-21 20:56:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| https://discord.gg/Qh2jvfPp
[2026-03-21 20:56:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| https://discord.gg/Qh2jvfPp
[2026-03-21 21:25:14] <delinquent> SUBYO ^
[2026-03-21 21:25:16] <armagetronbridge> 11irc:delinquent| SUBYO ^
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