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[2026-03-01 08:59:28] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| Syn it's time for you to make podcasts
[2026-03-01 08:59:28] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| Syn it's time for you to make podcasts
[2026-03-01 08:59:42] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| Have a random tronner join in every week
[2026-03-01 08:59:42] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| Have a random tronner join in every week
[2026-03-01 09:05:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ๐Ÿคฃ
[2026-03-01 09:05:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ๐Ÿคฃ
[2026-03-01 09:05:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| get every tronners perspective on the most existential stuff
[2026-03-01 09:05:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| get every tronners perspective on the most existential stuff
[2026-03-01 09:05:53] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| how do you find meaning?
[2026-03-01 09:05:53] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| how do you find meaning?
[2026-03-01 09:14:16] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:tom11w| Hit them with the old "Have you done DMT?"
[2026-03-01 09:14:16] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:tom11w| Hit them with the old "Have you done DMT?"
[2026-03-01 09:18:43] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| Meaning in what
[2026-03-01 09:18:43] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| Meaning in what
[2026-03-01 09:18:47] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| Life?
[2026-03-01 09:18:47] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| Life?
[2026-03-01 09:19:02] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| 42 is my answer
[2026-03-01 09:19:02] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:subyoarmagetron| 42 is my answer
[2026-03-01 09:50:14] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Foooooooort
[2026-03-01 09:50:14] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Foooooooort
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[2026-03-02 04:40:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Upf_B9RLQ
[2026-03-02 04:40:42] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Upf_B9RLQ
[2026-03-02 04:40:51] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| norwegian humour is lowkey unmatched
[2026-03-02 04:40:51] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| norwegian humour is lowkey unmatched
[2026-03-02 04:40:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| @northernscrub did you see this? youll like this
[2026-03-02 04:40:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| @northernscrub did you see this? youll like this
[2026-03-02 04:42:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://discord.com/channels/209759416604426242/773251495566377030/1477658327680028762
[2026-03-02 04:42:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://discord.com/channels/209759416604426242/773251495566377030/1477658327680028762
[2026-03-02 04:44:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| predictable ๐Ÿ™„
[2026-03-02 04:44:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| predictable ๐Ÿ™„
[2026-03-02 04:44:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Also, this is interesting. The discord tag here is resolved to `@northernscrub`, which means not only do I get a ding in IRC, I now *also* get a ding on Matrix - which then dings my phone via schildichat.
[2026-03-02 04:44:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Also, this is interesting. The discord tag here is resolved to `@northernscrub`, which means not only do I get a ding in IRC, I now *also* get a ding on Matrix - which then dings my phone via schildichat.
[2026-03-02 05:56:07] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| ding ding ding!
[2026-03-02 05:56:07] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:Ninja Potato / vov| ding ding ding!
[2026-03-02 06:59:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Still gotta figure out a way to sort htis matrix shit out though. Can't have an unmoderated bridge going
[2026-03-02 06:59:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Still gotta figure out a way to sort htis matrix shit out though. Can't have an unmoderated bridge going
[2026-03-02 06:59:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| (hi matrix users)
[2026-03-02 06:59:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| (hi matrix users)
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[2026-03-02 14:20:10] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:muntengo| guys
[2026-03-02 14:20:10] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:muntengo| guys
[2026-03-02 14:20:13] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:muntengo| how can i join
[2026-03-02 14:20:13] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:muntengo| how can i join
[2026-03-02 14:20:15] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:muntengo| the grid
[2026-03-02 14:20:15] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:muntengo| the grid
[2026-03-02 14:20:16] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:muntengo| ^^
[2026-03-02 14:20:16] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:muntengo| ^^
[2026-03-02 14:59:31] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| make account on retrocyclesleague.com
[2026-03-02 14:59:31] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| make account on retrocyclesleague.com
[2026-03-02 14:59:32] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| then head over to #pickup  channel and type !add or !help
[2026-03-02 14:59:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| then head over to #pickup  channel and type !add or !help
[2026-03-02 14:59:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| This is for pickup servers. otherwise most public servers dont need authentication and you can just play
[2026-03-02 14:59:59] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| This is for pickup servers. otherwise most public servers dont need authentication and you can just play
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[2026-03-02 17:17:04] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| I heard AI agents now employs humans.
[2026-03-02 17:17:04] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| I heard AI agents now employs humans.
[2026-03-02 17:17:04] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://wibandwob.com/about/
[2026-03-02 17:17:04] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://wibandwob.com/about/
[2026-03-02 17:17:05] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://symbient.life/ (also check the interesting source code linter)
[2026-03-02 17:17:06] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://symbient.life/ (also check the interesting source code linter)
[2026-03-02 17:17:07] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| scary things
[2026-03-02 17:17:07] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| scary things
[2026-03-02 17:17:08] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478154198326710364/image.png?ex=69a75ddf&is=69a60c5f&hm=8af6cb3cb1ee4d343204ee801673e446073118420524143b077b4ba8f9fa83fb&
[2026-03-02 17:17:08] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478154198326710364/image.png?ex=69a75ddf&is=69a60c5f&hm=8af6cb3cb1ee4d343204ee801673e446073118420524143b077b4ba8f9fa83fb&
[2026-03-02 17:17:09] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478154199115235379/image.png?ex=69a75ddf&is=69a60c5f&hm=aaf14d7234c993abb433a94a4c95d91cc1b54d0bd074faeb332b288bda3f2506&
[2026-03-02 17:17:09] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478154199115235379/image.png?ex=69a75ddf&is=69a60c5f&hm=aaf14d7234c993abb433a94a4c95d91cc1b54d0bd074faeb332b288bda3f2506&
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[2026-03-02 18:36:45] <Lucifer_arma> yay.  Taking an online class that I have to sit for 8 hours, but finished the actual "material" in 1 hour.  Now I have to sit and let the timer run for 7 more hours
[2026-03-02 18:36:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| yay.  Taking an online class that I have to sit for 8 hours, but finished the actual "material" in 1 hour.  Now I have to sit and let the timer run for 7 more hours
[2026-03-02 18:37:14] <Lucifer_arma> at least they don't monitor if you leave the tab, so I can actually just do whatever, just make sure to click in the tab every now and then
[2026-03-02 18:37:14] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| at least they don't monitor if you leave the tab, so I can actually just do whatever, just make sure to click in the tab every now and then
[2026-03-02 21:34:40] <Lucifer_arma> I think you can tell what show I'm watching based on what I write in my apidocs
[2026-03-02 21:34:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I think you can tell what show I'm watching based on what I write in my apidocs
[2026-03-02 21:35:15] <Lucifer_arma> I just wrote "
[2026-03-02 21:35:16] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I just wrote "
[2026-03-02 21:35:17] <Lucifer_arma> If node is passed in and the other arguments are also passed in, this is farbot and the node will override all other arguments.
[2026-03-02 21:35:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| If node is passed in and the other arguments are also passed in, this is farbot and the node will override all other arguments.
[2026-03-02 21:37:20] <Lucifer_arma> so, I'm storing a "size" that's just a scaling factor.  It's used to scale an svg when it's rendered, with the screen output being 1920x1080
[2026-03-02 21:37:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so, I'm storing a "size" that's just a scaling factor.  It's used to scale an svg when it's rendered, with the screen output being 1920x1080
[2026-03-02 21:37:33] <Lucifer_arma> is it useful to store a size with this kind of precision:  0.234229999999999993764987493705120868980884552001953125
[2026-03-02 21:37:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| is it useful to store a size with this kind of precision:  0.234229999999999993764987493705120868980884552001953125
[2026-03-02 21:38:09] <Lucifer_arma> ok, the obvious answer is "no, that's farbot".  But the not-so-obvious answer is to this question:  What is the useful maximum precision here?
[2026-03-02 21:38:09] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, the obvious answer is "no, that's farbot".  But the not-so-obvious answer is to this question:  What is the useful maximum precision here?
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[2026-03-02 22:45:42] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| _"Accelerated ageing tests on written voxels in borosilicate suggest data lifetimes exceeding 10,000 years."_
[2026-03-02 22:45:42] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| _"Accelerated ageing tests on written voxels in borosilicate suggest data lifetimes exceeding 10,000 years."_
[2026-03-02 22:45:43] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| Microsoft Research Project Silica Team. Laser writing in glass for dense, fast and efficient archival data storage. (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-10042-w)
[2026-03-02 22:45:43] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| Microsoft Research Project Silica Team. Laser writing in glass for dense, fast and efficient archival data storage. (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-10042-w)
[2026-03-02 22:46:11] <Lucifer_arma> we should use whatever those people used when they painted the insides of those caves
[2026-03-02 22:46:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| we should use whatever those people used when they painted the insides of those caves
[2026-03-02 22:47:02] <Lucifer_arma> so I had a very nice ini-based file format that was Just Plain Beautiful.  Now I have to rewrite it as xml, and I'm a little bit stumped
[2026-03-02 22:47:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so I had a very nice ini-based file format that was Just Plain Beautiful.  Now I have to rewrite it as xml, and I'm a little bit stumped
[2026-03-02 22:48:08] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| _"We achieve a data density of 1.59 Gbit mm−3 in 301 layers for a capacity of 4.8 TB in a 120 mm square, 2 mm thick piece of glass."_
[2026-03-02 22:48:08] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| _"We achieve a data density of 1.59 Gbit mm−3 in 301 layers for a capacity of 4.8 TB in a 120 mm square, 2 mm thick piece of glass."_
[2026-03-02 22:48:08] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| can caves handle that? maybe. glass is nicer, tho.
[2026-03-02 22:48:08] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| can caves handle that? maybe. glass is nicer, tho.
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[2026-03-02 23:09:14] <Lucifer_arma> As an ini file, it was easy to say the section names would be the timestamp for what's happening, and then the lines under the section would just list what's happening
[2026-03-02 23:09:14] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| As an ini file, it was easy to say the section names would be the timestamp for what's happening, and then the lines under the section would just list what's happening
[2026-03-02 23:09:39] <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't translate well to xml, unless I do a tag like <timelineevent time="some timestamp">
[2026-03-02 23:09:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that doesn't translate well to xml, unless I do a tag like <timelineevent time="some timestamp">
[2026-03-02 23:10:31] <Lucifer_arma> which is sorta fine, except that it's xml, so there's a desire to want to put it in open/close tags that include duration
[2026-03-02 23:10:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| which is sorta fine, except that it's xml, so there's a desire to want to put it in open/close tags that include duration
[2026-03-02 23:10:45] <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm overthinking it
[2026-03-02 23:10:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I think I'm overthinking it
[2026-03-02 23:11:39] <Lucifer_arma> oh, no, I'm not.  I remember why I was doing it the way I was.  Then I could just sort based on the timestamps and get every event in order
[2026-03-02 23:11:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| oh, no, I'm not.  I remember why I was doing it the way I was.  Then I could just sort based on the timestamps and get every event in order

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[2026-03-03 00:38:35] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| I think high ping actually encourages high initiative and high provocation plays
[2026-03-03 00:38:35] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| I think high ping actually encourages high initiative and high provocation plays
[2026-03-03 00:39:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Because you have such latency
[2026-03-03 00:39:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Because you have such latency
[2026-03-03 00:39:19] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| If you try to move your opponent will be behind in the feedback they get
[2026-03-03 00:39:19] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| If you try to move your opponent will be behind in the feedback they get
[2026-03-03 00:39:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| And if you pair that with speed
[2026-03-03 00:39:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| And if you pair that with speed
[2026-03-03 00:39:34] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Till be extra behind
[2026-03-03 00:39:34] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Till be extra behind
[2026-03-03 00:39:59] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Maybe instead of ping charity 0 i should have it at 300 lmao
[2026-03-03 00:39:59] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Maybe instead of ping charity 0 i should have it at 300 lmao
[2026-03-03 00:40:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But if you react you will be behind everytime
[2026-03-03 00:40:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But if you react you will be behind everytime
[2026-03-03 00:43:31] <Lucifer_arma> I'd be interested in seeing if you can change ping charity to give you an advantage
[2026-03-03 00:43:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'd be interested in seeing if you can change ping charity to give you an advantage
[2026-03-03 00:43:34] <Lucifer_arma> I never managed it
[2026-03-03 00:43:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I never managed it
[2026-03-03 00:46:35] <Lucifer_arma> there's a www.kleptomaniacsanonymous.com out there
[2026-03-03 00:46:35] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| there's a www.kleptomaniacsanonymous.com out there
[2026-03-03 00:46:48] <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to wait until their domain registration lapses and then snag it for myself
[2026-03-03 00:46:48] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm going to wait until their domain registration lapses and then snag it for myself
[2026-03-03 00:47:52] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Ill need tons of speed to make it work
[2026-03-03 00:47:52] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Ill need tons of speed to make it work
[2026-03-03 00:48:05] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Which means i need to use my rubber wisely
[2026-03-03 00:48:05] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Which means i need to use my rubber wisely
[2026-03-03 00:48:18] <Lucifer_arma> if I'd done that, I wouldn't have three kids
[2026-03-03 00:48:18] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| if I'd done that, I wouldn't have three kids
[2026-03-03 00:50:46] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| 400 ping charity might be the thing i need in order to speedbox people and surprise them with it
[2026-03-03 00:50:46] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| 400 ping charity might be the thing i need in order to speedbox people and surprise them with it
[2026-03-03 00:50:57] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Because they need 4 turns to get out
[2026-03-03 00:50:57] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Because they need 4 turns to get out
[2026-03-03 00:52:19] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Assuming .1 turn delay
[2026-03-03 00:52:19] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Assuming .1 turn delay
[2026-03-03 01:16:01] <Lucifer_arma> well, the thing is, ping charity is what the server distributes to the other clients as a way to equalize everyone's pings
[2026-03-03 01:16:01] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well, the thing is, ping charity is what the server distributes to the other clients as a way to equalize everyone's pings
[2026-03-03 01:16:08] <Lucifer_arma> I don't think the setting on the client does anything at all
[2026-03-03 01:16:08] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I don't think the setting on the client does anything at all
[2026-03-03 01:16:43] <Lucifer_arma> so if you have someone with 100 playing someone with 200, then 100 ping charity is given to the lower ping player, giving them both an effective ping of 200
[2026-03-03 01:16:44] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so if you have someone with 100 playing someone with 200, then 100 ping charity is given to the lower ping player, giving them both an effective ping of 200
[2026-03-03 01:16:54] <Lucifer_arma> it's not quite like that in practice, but that's the concept anyway
[2026-03-03 01:16:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it's not quite like that in practice, but that's the concept anyway
[2026-03-03 01:17:21] <Lucifer_arma> that's why really high ping players can make a game seem bad for everyone, or used to, anyway
[2026-03-03 01:17:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that's why really high ping players can make a game seem bad for everyone, or used to, anyway
[2026-03-03 01:17:39] <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't have as much an effect as it used to.  I think Z-Man rethought it right before 0.2.7.0
[2026-03-03 01:17:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it doesn't have as much an effect as it used to.  I think Z-Man rethought it right before 0.2.7.0
[2026-03-03 01:17:46] <Lucifer_arma> er, 0.2.7.1
[2026-03-03 01:17:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| er, 0.2.7.1
[2026-03-03 01:17:54] <Lucifer_arma> or right after
[2026-03-03 01:17:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| or right after
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[2026-03-03 03:37:20] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| some servers (like mine) sets `PING_CHARITY_MIN` to some defined values, e.g. `80`. now you make me considering setting `PING_CHARITY_MAX` too.
[2026-03-03 03:37:21] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| some servers (like mine) sets `PING_CHARITY_MIN` to some defined values, e.g. `80`. now you make me considering setting `PING_CHARITY_MAX` too.
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[2026-03-03 05:00:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| dammit luci why you gotta sleep right before I get on
[2026-03-03 05:00:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| dammit luci why you gotta sleep right before I get on
[2026-03-03 05:13:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the rest of us not good enough for you ๐Ÿ˜ญ
[2026-03-03 05:13:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the rest of us not good enough for you ๐Ÿ˜ญ
[2026-03-03 05:25:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Away with you, cretin!
[2026-03-03 05:25:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Away with you, cretin!
[2026-03-03 05:25:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| No, I just wondered if Luci had more insight into what we could to as an alternative to `max(RTT/2, RTT<whatever>)`
[2026-03-03 05:25:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| No, I just wondered if Luci had more insight into what we could to as an alternative to `max(RTT/2, RTT<whatever>)`
[2026-03-03 05:27:12] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| have you asked the agent? ๐Ÿ˜‰
[2026-03-03 05:27:12] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| have you asked the agent? ๐Ÿ˜‰
[2026-03-03 05:27:21] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i bet it has some valuable contributions
[2026-03-03 05:27:21] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i bet it has some valuable contributions
[2026-03-03 05:27:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i will try
[2026-03-03 05:27:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i will try
[2026-03-03 05:27:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, and I won't use
[2026-03-03 05:27:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, and I won't use
[2026-03-03 05:27:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| any code LLM generated in 0.5
[2026-03-03 05:27:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| any code LLM generated in 0.5
[2026-03-03 05:27:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| if you want to do that in your own fork, sure
[2026-03-03 05:27:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| if you want to do that in your own fork, sure
[2026-03-03 05:28:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i didnt say anything about llm generated code
[2026-03-03 05:28:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i didnt say anything about llm generated code
[2026-03-03 06:31:21] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Im thinking about a concept
[2026-03-03 06:31:21] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Im thinking about a concept
[2026-03-03 06:31:46] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Organizing friendlies between the ladle teams to coach and teach eachother how to tighten things up
[2026-03-03 06:31:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Organizing friendlies between the ladle teams to coach and teach eachother how to tighten things up
[2026-03-03 06:31:53] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Anyone wanna do that?
[2026-03-03 06:31:53] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Anyone wanna do that?
[2026-03-03 06:32:40] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Pickup is such a volatile place in terms of skill levels
[2026-03-03 06:32:40] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Pickup is such a volatile place in terms of skill levels
[2026-03-03 06:47:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| that is a fire idea
[2026-03-03 06:47:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| that is a fire idea
[2026-03-03 06:48:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| friendlies would be fun
[2026-03-03 06:48:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| friendlies would be fun
[2026-03-03 07:26:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We used to have the odd scrimmage when there were enough teams and clans about to do so. Be ncie to start that again
[2026-03-03 07:26:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We used to have the odd scrimmage when there were enough teams and clans about to do so. Be ncie to start that again
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[2026-03-03 12:22:29] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478442453680783471/HCgDVi2bcAEkJyY.png?ex=69a86a55&is=69a718d5&hm=8913f77909277bd8929358e3bcdcaa6b4802871c1bd1b675322382f4d5baedb3&
[2026-03-03 12:22:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478442453680783471/HCgDVi2bcAEkJyY.png?ex=69a86a55&is=69a718d5&hm=8913f77909277bd8929358e3bcdcaa6b4802871c1bd1b675322382f4d5baedb3&
[2026-03-03 12:22:41] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| tough day for the stochastic parrot crew when don knuth is vibe mathing
[2026-03-03 12:22:41] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| tough day for the stochastic parrot crew when don knuth is vibe mathing
[2026-03-03 12:36:54] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Interesting
[2026-03-03 12:36:54] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Interesting
[2026-03-03 12:37:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| not the gotcha you think it is. Without the assistance of the llm, the only time sink would have been proofs. That's where the automation comes in - but this could have been also very easily achieved without machine learning, instead designing an iterative func to test hundreds of thousands of digraphs a second. 
[2026-03-03 12:37:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| In fact, this is how quite a lot of theory is done, especially in physics. It's the reason we've had vast improvements over things like structural design in the past forty years or so, as well as things like dynamic orbit predictions, particle physics, etcetera. 
[2026-03-03 12:37:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We scale this up too - although when you scale up, things tend to take a lot longer. A good example of that is the large hadron collider. That's an example of running simulations over and over in a (semi) automated fashion to examine the result.
[2026-03-03 12:37:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| not the gotcha you think it is. Without the assistance of the llm, the only time sink would have been proofs. That's where the automation comes in - but this could have been also very easily achieved without machine learning, instead designing an iterative func to test hundreds of thousands of digraphs a second. 
[2026-03-03 12:37:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| In fact, this is how quite a lot of theory is done, especially in physics. It's the reason we've had vast improvements over things like structural design in the past forty years or so, as well as things like dynamic orbit predictions, particle physics, etcetera. 
[2026-03-03 12:37:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We scale this up too - although when you scale up, things tend to take a lot longer. A good example of that is the large hadron collider. That's an example of running simulations over and over in a (semi) automated fashion to examine the result.
[2026-03-03 12:38:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| My sort-of-brother is using this approach right now for his thesis in physics
[2026-03-03 12:38:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| My sort-of-brother is using this approach right now for his thesis in physics
[2026-03-03 12:38:57] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| A thing to note is the handholding and coaching required for it
[2026-03-03 12:38:57] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| A thing to note is the handholding and coaching required for it
[2026-03-03 12:39:31] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Even if there is some transcendant property then maybe that would be a limit for it
[2026-03-03 12:39:31] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Even if there is some transcendant property then maybe that would be a limit for it
[2026-03-03 12:39:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| No amount of yap can compare with "Hats off to Claude" from the father of algorithm analysis
[2026-03-03 12:39:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| No amount of yap can compare with "Hats off to Claude" from the father of algorithm analysis
[2026-03-03 12:39:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/papers/claude-cycles.pdf
[2026-03-03 12:39:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/papers/claude-cycles.pdf
[2026-03-03 12:39:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| good read
[2026-03-03 12:39:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| good read
[2026-03-03 12:40:18] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| > but this could have been also very easily achieved without machine learning, instead designing an iterative func to test hundreds of thousands of digraphs a second. 
[2026-03-03 12:40:18] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| > but this could have been also very easily achieved without machine learning, instead designing an iterative func to test hundreds of thousands of digraphs a second. 
[2026-03-03 12:40:19] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| :Facepalm:
[2026-03-03 12:40:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| :Facepalm:
[2026-03-03 12:40:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| waiting for your euler solutions
[2026-03-03 12:40:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| waiting for your euler solutions
[2026-03-03 12:41:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a tool is only as potent as the wielder
[2026-03-03 12:41:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a tool is only as potent as the wielder
[2026-03-03 12:41:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| very very slim chance of us without the lexicon required to prompt such things
[2026-03-03 12:41:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| very very slim chance of us without the lexicon required to prompt such things
[2026-03-03 12:41:50] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Aye, but maybe the tool is more a catalyst
[2026-03-03 12:41:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Aye, but maybe the tool is more a catalyst
[2026-03-03 12:42:08] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Ill take the catalyst if its proven sure
[2026-03-03 12:42:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Ill take the catalyst if its proven sure
[2026-03-03 12:42:21] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But im sticking to the ol fashioned
[2026-03-03 12:42:22] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But im sticking to the ol fashioned
[2026-03-03 12:42:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| abacus??
[2026-03-03 12:42:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| abacus??
[2026-03-03 12:42:41] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ๐Ÿคฃ
[2026-03-03 12:42:41] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ๐Ÿคฃ
[2026-03-03 12:42:43] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Especially where the work is the part that i need to do
[2026-03-03 12:42:43] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Especially where the work is the part that i need to do
[2026-03-03 12:42:55] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| whats ol fashioned to you
[2026-03-03 12:42:55] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| whats ol fashioned to you
[2026-03-03 12:43:28] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| If im given a piece of work ill do it and research it with the tools and things i know to be reliable
[2026-03-03 12:43:28] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| If im given a piece of work ill do it and research it with the tools and things i know to be reliable
[2026-03-03 12:43:40] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| And will accept the mistakes i will make
[2026-03-03 12:43:40] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| And will accept the mistakes i will make
[2026-03-03 12:43:53] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Im talking more in the context of education btw
[2026-03-03 12:43:53] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Im talking more in the context of education btw
[2026-03-03 12:44:39] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Sure, but its not like something so old cant have value
[2026-03-03 12:44:39] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Sure, but its not like something so old cant have value
[2026-03-03 12:44:41] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah im just asking whats a reliable tool to you
[2026-03-03 12:44:41] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah im just asking whats a reliable tool to you
[2026-03-03 12:44:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| no, the abacus is one of the most important tool inventions in history
[2026-03-03 12:44:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| no, the abacus is one of the most important tool inventions in history
[2026-03-03 12:45:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| tried and tested for many generations
[2026-03-03 12:45:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| tried and tested for many generations
[2026-03-03 12:45:30] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Wikipedia and when i need something verifiable ill go search for the scientific literature on it
[2026-03-03 12:45:30] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Wikipedia and when i need something verifiable ill go search for the scientific literature on it
[2026-03-03 12:45:43] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Download books whatever
[2026-03-03 12:45:43] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Download books whatever
[2026-03-03 12:46:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Wikipedia is more of a gut check really
[2026-03-03 12:46:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Wikipedia is more of a gut check really
[2026-03-03 12:46:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| these will just help you surface others claims of truth
[2026-03-03 12:46:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| these will just help you surface others claims of truth
[2026-03-03 12:46:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they dont necessarily help you with verifying your claims of truth
[2026-03-03 12:46:12] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they dont necessarily help you with verifying your claims of truth
[2026-03-03 12:46:29] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im specifically interested in tools a la creation
[2026-03-03 12:46:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im specifically interested in tools a la creation
[2026-03-03 12:46:33] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Youtube if i need to learn things a certain way
[2026-03-03 12:46:33] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Youtube if i need to learn things a certain way
[2026-03-03 12:46:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you enjoy the keyboard, at least
[2026-03-03 12:46:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you enjoy the keyboard, at least
[2026-03-03 12:46:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| > after EVERY exploreXX.py...
[2026-03-03 12:46:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Hardly cope. In fact, he did *exactly* what I said. The only difference here is that he used claude to take a complex problem and reword it.
[2026-03-03 12:46:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| > after EVERY exploreXX.py...
[2026-03-03 12:46:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Hardly cope. In fact, he did *exactly* what I said. The only difference here is that he used claude to take a complex problem and reword it.
[2026-03-03 12:46:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Which is, wait for it, 
[2026-03-03 12:46:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Which is, wait for it, 
[2026-03-03 12:46:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| **a fucking scholastic parrots**
[2026-03-03 12:46:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| **a fucking scholastic parrots**
[2026-03-03 12:46:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| What I will admit do, however
[2026-03-03 12:46:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| What I will admit do, however
[2026-03-03 12:47:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| "the only difference here"
[2026-03-03 12:47:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| >states a fundamental difference
[2026-03-03 12:47:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| "the only difference here"
[2026-03-03 12:47:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| >states a fundamental difference
[2026-03-03 12:47:19] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Im currently educating myself so ofc
[2026-03-03 12:47:19] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Im currently educating myself so ofc
[2026-03-03 12:47:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's not really - anyone suitable skilled in teh field can reword a short problem
[2026-03-03 12:47:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's not really - anyone suitable skilled in teh field can reword a short problem
[2026-03-03 12:47:42] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| deli are you trying to tell you think Knuth missed a better way of doing this?
[2026-03-03 12:47:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| deli are you trying to tell you think Knuth missed a better way of doing this?
[2026-03-03 12:47:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| anyway, what I will admit to is that the use of claude to reword a complex problem is, in fact, something I'm sort of on board with
[2026-03-03 12:47:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| anyway, what I will admit to is that the use of claude to reword a complex problem is, in fact, something I'm sort of on board with
[2026-03-03 12:48:04] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it solved the problem
[2026-03-03 12:48:04] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it solved the problem
[2026-03-03 12:48:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| stop mincing words
[2026-03-03 12:48:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| stop mincing words
[2026-03-03 12:48:20] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it didnt reword it, it found a generalisation for all odd values
[2026-03-03 12:48:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it didnt reword it, it found a generalisation for all odd values
[2026-03-03 12:48:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| No, what I'm saying is his colleague went to an LLM instead of using his brain
[2026-03-03 12:48:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| No, what I'm saying is his colleague went to an LLM instead of using his brain
[2026-03-03 12:48:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and so we have results, instead of the unsolved problem
[2026-03-03 12:48:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and so we have results, instead of the unsolved problem
[2026-03-03 12:48:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do you see>
[2026-03-03 12:48:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do you see>
[2026-03-03 12:48:42] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Well then to what extent? If im schizophrenic then the voices i hear are true to me is it not
[2026-03-03 12:48:42] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Well then to what extent? If im schizophrenic then the voices i hear are true to me is it not
[2026-03-03 12:48:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, it didn't. It reworded the problem to make the generation of a testing apparatus easier
[2026-03-03 12:48:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| no, it didn't. It reworded the problem to make the generation of a testing apparatus easier
[2026-03-03 12:49:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and then ran the test over and over again
[2026-03-03 12:49:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and then ran the test over and over again
[2026-03-03 12:49:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| > after EVERY exploreXX.py...
[2026-03-03 12:49:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| > after EVERY exploreXX.py...
[2026-03-03 12:49:06] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and then what happened
[2026-03-03 12:49:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and then what happened
[2026-03-03 12:49:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it found results
[2026-03-03 12:49:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it found results
[2026-03-03 12:49:14] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it generalised them
[2026-03-03 12:49:14] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it generalised them
[2026-03-03 12:49:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| which would have happened with or without claude
[2026-03-03 12:49:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| which would have happened with or without claude
[2026-03-03 12:49:20] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not only did it craft a python program
[2026-03-03 12:49:21] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not only did it craft a python program
[2026-03-03 12:49:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it generalised that program
[2026-03-03 12:49:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it generalised that program
[2026-03-03 12:49:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the sheer disrespect of the papers collaborator for you to say "he didnt use his brain"
[2026-03-03 12:49:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the sheer disrespect of the papers collaborator for you to say "he didnt use his brain"
[2026-03-03 12:49:53] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Did the program yield some correct results?
[2026-03-03 12:49:54] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Did the program yield some correct results?
[2026-03-03 12:49:56] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| your contempt for progress is aesthetically displeasing
[2026-03-03 12:49:56] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| your contempt for progress is aesthetically displeasing
[2026-03-03 12:50:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it yielded a general solution
[2026-03-03 12:50:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it yielded a general solution
[2026-03-03 12:50:22] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Im not asking for 100 percent
[2026-03-03 12:50:22] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Im not asking for 100 percent
[2026-03-03 12:50:45] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| All in all, however, this was definitely an impressive success story. I think Claude Shannon’s spirit is
[2026-03-03 12:50:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| All in all, however, this was definitely an impressive success story. I think Claude Shannon’s spirit is
[2026-03-03 12:50:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| probably proud to know that his name is now being associated with such advances. Hats off to Claude!
[2026-03-03 12:50:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| probably proud to know that his name is now being associated with such advances. Hats off to Claude!
[2026-03-03 12:50:54] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But yeah give me a percentage of what solutions it got right if you can give me that
[2026-03-03 12:50:54] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But yeah give me a percentage of what solutions it got right if you can give me that
[2026-03-03 12:51:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do you understand what i mean when i said it yielded a general solution?
[2026-03-03 12:51:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do you understand what i mean when i said it yielded a general solution?
[2026-03-03 12:51:17] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Sure
[2026-03-03 12:51:17] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Sure
[2026-03-03 12:51:19] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it means it can find any result
[2026-03-03 12:51:19] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it means it can find any result
[2026-03-03 12:51:37] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But were they then verified?
[2026-03-03 12:51:37] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But were they then verified?
[2026-03-03 12:51:42] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yes, by Donald Knuth
[2026-03-03 12:51:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yes, by Donald Knuth
[2026-03-03 12:51:48] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Cool
[2026-03-03 12:51:48] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Cool
[2026-03-03 12:51:52] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| worth looking him up, if you're unfamiliar
[2026-03-03 12:51:52] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| worth looking him up, if you're unfamiliar
[2026-03-03 12:51:55] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| really cool guy
[2026-03-03 12:51:56] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| really cool guy
[2026-03-03 12:52:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ??
[2026-03-03 12:52:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ??
[2026-03-03 12:52:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| But he didn't. Instead of relying on his own skills, he approached a machine learning model
[2026-03-03 12:52:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| But he didn't. Instead of relying on his own skills, he approached a machine learning model
[2026-03-03 12:52:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's not an insult, it's a statement of fact
[2026-03-03 12:52:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's not an insult, it's a statement of fact
[2026-03-03 12:52:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it's more than an insult, it's undermining progress generally
[2026-03-03 12:52:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it's more than an insult, it's undermining progress generally
[2026-03-03 12:53:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and Knuth being Knuth doesn't imply that I can't disagree with him on a non-mathematical point
[2026-03-03 12:53:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and Knuth being Knuth doesn't imply that I can't disagree with him on a non-mathematical point
[2026-03-03 12:53:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| The bulk of the work was done by the ai yes
[2026-03-03 12:53:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| The bulk of the work was done by the ai yes
[2026-03-03 12:53:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| lmao no, machine learning is what is undermining progress
[2026-03-03 12:53:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| lmao no, machine learning is what is undermining progress
[2026-03-03 12:53:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is also somewhat insulting
[2026-03-03 12:53:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is also somewhat insulting
[2026-03-03 12:53:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the more reliant we become, the less innovation will occur
[2026-03-03 12:53:36] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the more reliant we become, the less innovation will occur
[2026-03-03 12:53:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if this were true you would expect you or i to be able to produce this output
[2026-03-03 12:53:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if this were true you would expect you or i to be able to produce this output
[2026-03-03 12:53:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| With adequate training? sure
[2026-03-03 12:53:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| With adequate training? sure
[2026-03-03 12:54:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| He was able to produce it because he knew what he was looking for
[2026-03-03 12:54:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| He was able to produce it because he knew what he was looking for
[2026-03-03 12:54:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| adequate training being world class tutelage
[2026-03-03 12:54:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| adequate training being world class tutelage
[2026-03-03 12:54:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| And he was a mathematician
[2026-03-03 12:54:08] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| And he was a mathematician
[2026-03-03 12:54:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| otherwise deli stop yapping and start solving some of these problems
[2026-03-03 12:54:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| otherwise deli stop yapping and start solving some of these problems
[2026-03-03 12:54:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| what do they have that you dont?
[2026-03-03 12:54:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| what do they have that you dont?
[2026-03-03 12:54:31] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| To me ai is more of a force multiplier
[2026-03-03 12:54:32] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| To me ai is more of a force multiplier
[2026-03-03 12:54:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is fair, but this does imply that they have substantial force to begin with
[2026-03-03 12:54:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is fair, but this does imply that they have substantial force to begin with
[2026-03-03 12:55:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is flat out not true
[2026-03-03 12:55:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is flat out not true
[2026-03-03 12:55:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i can demonstrate a variety of datasets to prove this
[2026-03-03 12:55:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i can demonstrate a variety of datasets to prove this
[2026-03-03 12:55:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| who told you this ?
[2026-03-03 12:55:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| who told you this ?
[2026-03-03 12:55:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| where do you even get your media
[2026-03-03 12:55:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| where do you even get your media
[2026-03-03 12:55:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| sure, and the right opportunities, and the right influences, and the right palce and time. There's a million potential knuths out there, but this one happened to get hte training. He's not unique, but he is experienced and skilled. Experience and skills are open to challenge
[2026-03-03 12:55:28] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| sure, and the right opportunities, and the right influences, and the right palce and time. There's a million potential knuths out there, but this one happened to get hte training. He's not unique, but he is experienced and skilled. Experience and skills are open to challenge
[2026-03-03 12:55:40] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| How?
[2026-03-03 12:55:41] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| How?
[2026-03-03 12:55:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| because 0x0 is 0
[2026-03-03 12:55:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| because 0x0 is 0
[2026-03-03 12:55:55] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if it is indeed a force multiplier
[2026-03-03 12:55:55] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if it is indeed a force multiplier
[2026-03-03 12:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Yeah
[2026-03-03 12:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Its a non zero force
[2026-03-03 12:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But it could be a non substantial force
[2026-03-03 12:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| substantial relative to the average tool user
[2026-03-03 12:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2026/02/24/ai-is-making-us-less-creative-but-theres-a-fix/
[2026-03-03 12:56:48] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Yeah
[2026-03-03 12:56:48] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Its a non zero force
[2026-03-03 12:56:48] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But it could be a non substantial force
[2026-03-03 12:56:48] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| substantial relative to the average tool user
[2026-03-03 12:56:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2026/02/24/ai-is-making-us-less-creative-but-theres-a-fix/
[2026-03-03 12:56:56] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| deli you're linking forbes articles im linking math papers
[2026-03-03 12:56:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| deli you're linking forbes articles im linking math papers
[2026-03-03 12:57:01] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this isnt a good look
[2026-03-03 12:57:01] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this isnt a good look
[2026-03-03 12:57:02] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Because of the cost of the prereq training required to get and know what uou want
[2026-03-03 12:57:02] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Because of the cost of the prereq training required to get and know what uou want
[2026-03-03 12:57:14] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| show me some data, not news
[2026-03-03 12:57:14] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| show me some data, not news
[2026-03-03 12:57:24] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| You linked news articles last time lmao
[2026-03-03 12:57:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| You linked news articles last time lmao
[2026-03-03 12:57:27] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Oh well
[2026-03-03 12:57:27] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Oh well
[2026-03-03 12:57:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| which one
[2026-03-03 12:57:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| which one
[2026-03-03 12:57:41] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is a pdf
[2026-03-03 12:57:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is a pdf
[2026-03-03 12:57:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/papers/claude-cycles.pdf
[2026-03-03 12:57:43] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/papers/claude-cycles.pdf
[2026-03-03 12:57:46] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Its not a serious thing
[2026-03-03 12:57:46] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Its not a serious thing
[2026-03-03 12:58:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i say that cause deli likes calling people out on the media metadata
[2026-03-03 12:58:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i say that cause deli likes calling people out on the media metadata
[2026-03-03 12:58:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| like shutting down the aesthetics discussion cause of JP
[2026-03-03 12:58:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| like shutting down the aesthetics discussion cause of JP
[2026-03-03 12:58:33] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| No comment
[2026-03-03 12:58:33] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| No comment
[2026-03-03 12:58:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I mean, if you bothered to read the article, you'd note that the source is Saeema Ahmed-Kristenson, a pretty well reknowned prof at exeter uni
[2026-03-03 12:58:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I mean, if you bothered to read the article, you'd note that the source is Saeema Ahmed-Kristenson, a pretty well reknowned prof at exeter uni
[2026-03-03 12:58:59] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Huh
[2026-03-03 12:58:59] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Huh
[2026-03-03 12:59:20] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Credentials? Pretty curious about that
[2026-03-03 12:59:21] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Credentials? Pretty curious about that
[2026-03-03 12:59:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://experts.exeter.ac.uk/34981-saeema-ahmedkristensen
[2026-03-03 12:59:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://experts.exeter.ac.uk/34981-saeema-ahmedkristensen
[2026-03-03 12:59:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Imma look that up lmao
[2026-03-03 12:59:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Imma look that up lmao
[2026-03-03 12:59:31] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Oh
[2026-03-03 12:59:31] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Oh
[2026-03-03 13:00:59] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Okay
[2026-03-03 13:00:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i cant even visit that site
[2026-03-03 13:00:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| can you link the original research?
[2026-03-03 13:00:59] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Interesting
[2026-03-03 13:01:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this research isnt even publicly shared
[2026-03-03 13:01:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Okay
[2026-03-03 13:01:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i cant even visit that site
[2026-03-03 13:01:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| can you link the original research?
[2026-03-03 13:01:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Interesting
[2026-03-03 13:01:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this research isnt even publicly shared
[2026-03-03 13:01:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im not paying for this chapter
[2026-03-03 13:01:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im not paying for this chapter
[2026-03-03 13:01:21] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| free information smh
[2026-03-03 13:01:21] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| free information smh
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[2026-03-03 13:11:51] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I agree with the result that AI doesn’t produce sufficiently diverse data
[2026-03-03 13:11:51] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I agree with the result that AI doesn’t produce sufficiently diverse data
[2026-03-03 13:12:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I don’t see how that correlates to “humans becoming less creative”
[2026-03-03 13:12:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I don’t see how that correlates to “humans becoming less creative”
[2026-03-03 13:12:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this claim requires analysis into neural structures that feel very much out of scope for this
[2026-03-03 13:12:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this claim requires analysis into neural structures that feel very much out of scope for this
[2026-03-03 13:12:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I should perhaps say "humanity" and by such I would refer to the society, not the race
[2026-03-03 13:12:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I should perhaps say "humanity" and by such I would refer to the society, not the race
[2026-03-03 13:12:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this implies AI is humanity lol
[2026-03-03 13:12:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this implies AI is humanity lol
[2026-03-03 13:12:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Well, it's part of society
[2026-03-03 13:12:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| humanity thus owns it
[2026-03-03 13:12:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Well, it's part of society
[2026-03-03 13:12:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| humanity thus owns it
[2026-03-03 13:12:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| anyway
[2026-03-03 13:12:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| anyway
[2026-03-03 13:13:13] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but how is this affecting the cognitive diversity of the humans using it
[2026-03-03 13:13:13] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but how is this affecting the cognitive diversity of the humans using it
[2026-03-03 13:13:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i as you know am an AI power user and i don’t feel like my creativity has diminished
[2026-03-03 13:13:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i as you know am an AI power user and i don’t feel like my creativity has diminished
[2026-03-03 13:13:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if anything i’m now unleashed
[2026-03-03 13:13:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if anything i’m now unleashed
[2026-03-03 13:13:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| if we agree on the premise that ML is not sufficiently diverse, then we can posit that, by extension, if we rely on it for our ideas, *we* will be insufficient ourselves
[2026-03-03 13:13:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| if we agree on the premise that ML is not sufficiently diverse, then we can posit that, by extension, if we rely on it for our ideas, *we* will be insufficient ourselves
[2026-03-03 13:14:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| you are a minority in this respect - we have people doing things like using ML as an alarm clock
[2026-03-03 13:14:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I don’t follow this sequitur
[2026-03-03 13:14:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and other such stupidities
[2026-03-03 13:14:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| you are a minority in this respect - we have people doing things like using ML as an alarm clock
[2026-03-03 13:14:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I don’t follow this sequitur
[2026-03-03 13:14:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and other such stupidities
[2026-03-03 13:15:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ML alone isn’t diverse enough but when paired with a sufficiently skilled user this problem massively decreases
[2026-03-03 13:15:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ML alone isn’t diverse enough but when paired with a sufficiently skilled user this problem massively decreases
[2026-03-03 13:15:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| as proven by the novel mathematics produced above
[2026-03-03 13:15:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| as proven by the novel mathematics produced above
[2026-03-03 13:16:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| my point here is that whilst individual persons can be highly intelligent and innovative, people on the whole are a bit fucking stupid. The number of sufficiently skilled users here pales in comparison to the insufficiently skilled or educated - and this will be a particularly complex problem with the current *learning* generation who may find that, come adulthood, they have not  <clipped message>
[2026-03-03 13:16:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| my point here is that whilst individual persons can be highly intelligent and innovative, people on the whole are a bit fucking stupid. The number of sufficiently skilled users here pales in comparison to the insufficiently skilled or educated - and this will be a particularly complex problem with the current *learning* generation who may find that, come adulthood, they have not  <clipped message>
[2026-03-03 13:16:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| discovered how to satisfactorily innovate on their own
[2026-03-03 13:16:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| discovered how to satisfactorily innovate on their own
[2026-03-03 13:17:34] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Achievement get: triple exception
[2026-03-03 13:17:34] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Achievement get: triple exception
[2026-03-03 13:17:39] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| At least for me
[2026-03-03 13:17:39] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| At least for me
[2026-03-03 13:18:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| "why bother learning how to do it if the ML can do it for me" - agian, the precis being that it is almost impossible to learn just *one* skill at a time, instead skills generally being learned in groups. Learning how to carve, for example, also teaching the structural limits of the material, the tools, and then tangential skills such as interpreting the process of bringing a desi <clipped message>
[2026-03-03 13:18:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| "why bother learning how to do it if the ML can do it for me" - agian, the precis being that it is almost impossible to learn just *one* skill at a time, instead skills generally being learned in groups. Learning how to carve, for example, also teaching the structural limits of the material, the tools, and then tangential skills such as interpreting the process of bringing a desi <clipped message>
[2026-03-03 13:18:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| gn to fruition, learning patience, etcetera
[2026-03-03 13:18:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| gn to fruition, learning patience, etcetera
[2026-03-03 13:18:41] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| as soon as you start using emotive language “fucking stupid” i know this is not containing reason
[2026-03-03 13:18:41] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| as soon as you start using emotive language “fucking stupid” i know this is not containing reason
[2026-03-03 13:19:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Emotive language is part and parcel of my dialect, and I'm sorry you cannot see this
[2026-03-03 13:19:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Emotive language is part and parcel of my dialect, and I'm sorry you cannot see this
[2026-03-03 13:19:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I want to extract your personal biases from substance you have here
[2026-03-03 13:19:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I want to extract your personal biases from substance you have here
[2026-03-03 13:19:48] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it mostly feels hand wavey “humans are getting more stupid”
[2026-03-03 13:19:48] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it mostly feels hand wavey “humans are getting more stupid”
[2026-03-03 13:19:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Nobody does this. Personal biases shape how we interact with *everything*
[2026-03-03 13:19:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Nobody does this. Personal biases shape how we interact with *everything*
[2026-03-03 13:20:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| Well science/philosophy has done a decent job so far at delineating reason from faith
[2026-03-03 13:20:29] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| Well science/philosophy has done a decent job so far at delineating reason from faith
[2026-03-03 13:20:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| even yourself. You may come up with evidence to support your... *support* of ML, but your position comes from your natural position of accelerationism
[2026-03-03 13:20:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| even yourself. You may come up with evidence to support your... *support* of ML, but your position comes from your natural position of accelerationism
[2026-03-03 13:21:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| at least tangentially
[2026-03-03 13:21:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| at least tangentially
[2026-03-03 13:21:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I agree people are on the whole not exceedingly open to new technologies, and this will hold them back
[2026-03-03 13:21:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I agree people are on the whole not exceedingly open to new technologies, and this will hold them back
[2026-03-03 13:21:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but this doesn’t feel unique to AI
[2026-03-03 13:21:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but this doesn’t feel unique to AI
[2026-03-03 13:21:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Well, I would argue that this depends entirely upon the technology
[2026-03-03 13:21:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Well, I would argue that this depends entirely upon the technology
[2026-03-03 13:21:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| accelerationism is a more practical downstream ism of more esoteric philosophical viewpoints that i won’t enumerate for fear of being called repetitive lol
[2026-03-03 13:21:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| accelerationism is a more practical downstream ism of more esoteric philosophical viewpoints that i won’t enumerate for fear of being called repetitive lol
[2026-03-03 13:21:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| if the technology comes with caveats, like phoning home or sucking up my personal information, it is worthless to me
[2026-03-03 13:21:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| if the technology comes with caveats, like phoning home or sucking up my personal information, it is worthless to me
[2026-03-03 13:22:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| But at the same time as embracing technology in a conditional fashion, I dislike the idea of forgetting everything of the past
[2026-03-03 13:22:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| But at the same time as embracing technology in a conditional fashion, I dislike the idea of forgetting everything of the past
[2026-03-03 13:22:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| That’s totally fair, i’m just here to remind you that these grievances are both not relevant and damaging your execution capabilities
[2026-03-03 13:22:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| That’s totally fair, i’m just here to remind you that these grievances are both not relevant and damaging your execution capabilities
[2026-03-03 13:22:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know my view of the past, I absolutely don’t intend to forget it
[2026-03-03 13:22:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know my view of the past, I absolutely don’t intend to forget it
[2026-03-03 13:23:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'll happily forget religion, for example, but I'd also far prefer a fence made of wood or iron compare to plastic, or plates of crockery than plastic
[2026-03-03 13:23:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'll happily forget religion, for example, but I'd also far prefer a fence made of wood or iron compare to plastic, or plates of crockery than plastic
[2026-03-03 13:23:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| No in fact what I generally propose is that this technology like all others in the history of computing are outputs of enlightenment era thinkers coming to the correct conclusion “we can do better than this”
[2026-03-03 13:23:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| No in fact what I generally propose is that this technology like all others in the history of computing are outputs of enlightenment era thinkers coming to the correct conclusion “we can do better than this”
[2026-03-03 13:26:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Anyway, I would also argue that your position is irrational, and comes at the expense of the person. Which pretty much mirrors the positions we take on ML, hence my point - we both take our subjective opinion into play here, and that is partly our motivation for the positions we take themselves
[2026-03-03 13:26:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Anyway, I would also argue that your position is irrational, and comes at the expense of the person. Which pretty much mirrors the positions we take on ML, hence my point - we both take our subjective opinion into play here, and that is partly our motivation for the positions we take themselves
[2026-03-03 13:27:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| thus, nobody separates emotive from reason entirely
[2026-03-03 13:27:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| thus, nobody separates emotive from reason entirely
[2026-03-03 13:27:25] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:lava| except nelg
[2026-03-03 13:27:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:lava| except nelg
[2026-03-03 13:28:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| you mentioned philosophy - for a very long time, philosphy sought the *justification* of religion. That it has changed now is not a reflection of philosphy itself, but of the times in which we find ourslves
[2026-03-03 13:28:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| you mentioned philosophy - for a very long time, philosphy sought the *justification* of religion. That it has changed now is not a reflection of philosphy itself, but of the times in which we find ourslves
[2026-03-03 13:28:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| 100%
[2026-03-03 13:28:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| 100%
[2026-03-03 13:28:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| bleep bloop
[2026-03-03 13:28:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| bleep bloop
[2026-03-03 13:28:40] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| nelg is so emotional lol wdym
[2026-03-03 13:28:40] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| nelg is so emotional lol wdym
[2026-03-03 13:28:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| humour, syn
[2026-03-03 13:28:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| humour, syn
[2026-03-03 13:29:04] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| bleep bloop
[2026-03-03 13:29:04] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| bleep bloop
[2026-03-03 13:29:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| bleep bloop
[2026-03-03 13:29:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| bleep bloop
[2026-03-03 13:29:56] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| man i wish accelerationism was naturally found
[2026-03-03 13:29:56] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| man i wish accelerationism was naturally found
[2026-03-03 13:30:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| lol I wish it didn't exist
[2026-03-03 13:30:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| lol I wish it didn't exist
[2026-03-03 13:30:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| would make my missions a lot easier
[2026-03-03 13:30:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| would make my missions a lot easier
[2026-03-03 13:30:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| well, not entirely
[2026-03-03 13:30:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| well, not entirely
[2026-03-03 13:30:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wish it was rahter more tempered
[2026-03-03 13:30:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wish it was rahter more tempered
[2026-03-03 13:30:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i think the fear of change is more fundamentally human
[2026-03-03 13:30:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i think the fear of change is more fundamentally human
[2026-03-03 13:30:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Move slow and fix things
[2026-03-03 13:30:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Move slow and fix things
[2026-03-03 13:30:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| sometimes the fix is a new thing tho so
[2026-03-03 13:30:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| sometimes the fix is a new thing tho so
[2026-03-03 13:31:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| here, I'm *all* about warships in space
[2026-03-03 13:31:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| here, I'm *all* about warships in space
[2026-03-03 13:31:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| actually the older I get, the more hawkish I get
[2026-03-03 13:31:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| actually the older I get, the more hawkish I get
[2026-03-03 13:31:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| odd position to be in really
[2026-03-03 13:31:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| odd position to be in really
[2026-03-03 13:31:34] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Im happy with accelerationalisk
[2026-03-03 13:31:34] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Im happy with accelerationalisk
[2026-03-03 13:31:41] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But it better be wise
[2026-03-03 13:31:41] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But it better be wise
[2026-03-03 13:31:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know my earliest professional interface with tech was in red team scenarios
[2026-03-03 13:31:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know my earliest professional interface with tech was in red team scenarios
[2026-03-03 13:31:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| so what you're saying is
[2026-03-03 13:31:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| so what you're saying is
[2026-03-03 13:31:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| you were a script kiddie
[2026-03-03 13:31:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| you were a script kiddie
[2026-03-03 13:32:01] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the idea of limit testing being good for society is a part of me
[2026-03-03 13:32:01] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the idea of limit testing being good for society is a part of me
[2026-03-03 13:32:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| :D
[2026-03-03 13:32:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| :D
[2026-03-03 13:32:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know i worked for GCHQ as an analyst right
[2026-03-03 13:32:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know i worked for GCHQ as an analyst right
[2026-03-03 13:32:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I vaguely remember htis
[2026-03-03 13:32:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I vaguely remember htis
[2026-03-03 13:32:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’m sure ur messing but just in case lol
[2026-03-03 13:32:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’m sure ur messing but just in case lol
[2026-03-03 13:32:38] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| but I didn't have that in mind when I said that
[2026-03-03 13:32:38] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| but I didn't have that in mind when I said that
[2026-03-03 13:32:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I was just poking a bit fun
[2026-03-03 13:32:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I was just poking a bit fun
[2026-03-03 13:33:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| very fair
[2026-03-03 13:33:00] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| very fair
[2026-03-03 13:33:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but yeah i generally think we should all try break things more
[2026-03-03 13:33:20] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but yeah i generally think we should all try break things more
[2026-03-03 13:33:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| make society prove its resilience
[2026-03-03 13:33:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| make society prove its resilience
[2026-03-03 13:33:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| our foundations are not quite as firm as they would seem
[2026-03-03 13:33:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| our foundations are not quite as firm as they would seem
[2026-03-03 13:33:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| They'd be firmer if we moved slowly and fixed things :)
[2026-03-03 13:33:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| They'd be firmer if we moved slowly and fixed things :)
[2026-03-03 13:34:04] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| sure but this denies the ambition of men
[2026-03-03 13:34:04] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| sure but this denies the ambition of men
[2026-03-03 13:34:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and this is probably more dangerous
[2026-03-03 13:34:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and this is probably more dangerous
[2026-03-03 13:34:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| nah, innovation can come in the form of fixes
[2026-03-03 13:34:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| nah, innovation can come in the form of fixes
[2026-03-03 13:34:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| being idle is what's dangerous
[2026-03-03 13:34:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| being idle is what's dangerous
[2026-03-03 13:34:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| fixing the abacus would only take our mathematics so far
[2026-03-03 13:34:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| fixing the abacus would only take our mathematics so far
[2026-03-03 13:34:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| eventually new paradigms must be developed
[2026-03-03 13:34:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| eventually new paradigms must be developed
[2026-03-03 13:35:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’m becoming quite attached to this abacus metaphor for traditional tools
[2026-03-03 13:35:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’m becoming quite attached to this abacus metaphor for traditional tools
[2026-03-03 13:35:19] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it probably has holes
[2026-03-03 13:35:19] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it probably has holes
[2026-03-03 13:35:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| what would a fix look like though? Perhaps a new abacus that is smaller? Or an abacus that consists of rollers imprinted wiht numbers? These are thigns that happened
[2026-03-03 13:35:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| what would a fix look like though? Perhaps a new abacus that is smaller? Or an abacus that consists of rollers imprinted wiht numbers? These are thigns that happened
[2026-03-03 13:35:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| no, we would call those features instead of fixes
[2026-03-03 13:35:45] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| no, we would call those features instead of fixes
[2026-03-03 13:36:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a fix ensures the original state is maintained right
[2026-03-03 13:36:06] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a fix ensures the original state is maintained right
[2026-03-03 13:36:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Not necessarily
[2026-03-03 13:36:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Not necessarily
[2026-03-03 13:36:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| honestly, though, I don't thin kcherry picking here will prove or disprove anything. There's too many *things*
[2026-03-03 13:36:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| honestly, though, I don't thin kcherry picking here will prove or disprove anything. There's too many *things*
[2026-03-03 13:36:39] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Realistically speaking there could be a lot of costs bundled with breaking things
[2026-03-03 13:36:39] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Realistically speaking there could be a lot of costs bundled with breaking things
[2026-03-03 13:36:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| also regarding the history of computing i’ve shown you various documents that enumerate the invention procedure
[2026-03-03 13:36:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| also regarding the history of computing i’ve shown you various documents that enumerate the invention procedure
[2026-03-03 13:37:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and it wasn’t “improving the abacus”
[2026-03-03 13:37:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and it wasn’t “improving the abacus”
[2026-03-03 13:37:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| even if the outputs make it seem that way
[2026-03-03 13:37:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| even if the outputs make it seem that way
[2026-03-03 13:37:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yes indeed but we won’t know the costs if the risks/losses can’t be appropriately classified
[2026-03-03 13:37:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yes indeed but we won’t know the costs if the risks/losses can’t be appropriately classified
[2026-03-03 13:37:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and you can’t classify data that doesn’t exist
[2026-03-03 13:37:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and you can’t classify data that doesn’t exist
[2026-03-03 13:38:12] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| You can make an educated guess
[2026-03-03 13:38:12] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| You can make an educated guess
[2026-03-03 13:38:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yep this is loss estimates in the insurance world
[2026-03-03 13:38:29] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yep this is loss estimates in the insurance world
[2026-03-03 13:38:31] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But yeah i would do the same thing deli would
[2026-03-03 13:38:31] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But yeah i would do the same thing deli would
[2026-03-03 13:38:35] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they are not as educated as you would like
[2026-03-03 13:38:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they are not as educated as you would like
[2026-03-03 13:38:40] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Do things slowly and carefully
[2026-03-03 13:38:40] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Do things slowly and carefully
[2026-03-03 13:39:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i have seen engineers pull “20%” out of their ass for what % of a TSI figure would be lost in the event of a fire
[2026-03-03 13:39:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i have seen engineers pull “20%” out of their ass for what % of a TSI figure would be lost in the event of a fire
[2026-03-03 13:39:12] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| insurance needs to be limit tested
[2026-03-03 13:39:12] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| insurance needs to be limit tested
[2026-03-03 13:39:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but lots of loss calculations are involved there so like, they’re on it
[2026-03-03 13:39:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but lots of loss calculations are involved there so like, they’re on it
[2026-03-03 13:40:17] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| We dont want to gamble on something that can have potentially horrific and adverse consequences now do we
[2026-03-03 13:40:17] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| We dont want to gamble on something that can have potentially horrific and adverse consequences now do we
[2026-03-03 13:40:52] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’ve been placing prediction market bets on missile strikes
[2026-03-03 13:40:52] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’ve been placing prediction market bets on missile strikes
[2026-03-03 13:40:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i will not answer that ๐Ÿคฃ
[2026-03-03 13:40:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i will not answer that ๐Ÿคฃ
[2026-03-03 13:41:23] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| lmao what
[2026-03-03 13:41:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| lmao what
[2026-03-03 13:41:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's actually disgusting
[2026-03-03 13:41:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| that's actually disgusting
[2026-03-03 13:41:49] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| morally i’m pretty neutral about it
[2026-03-03 13:41:49] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| morally i’m pretty neutral about it
[2026-03-03 13:42:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the proceeds of the market don’t go towards war
[2026-03-03 13:42:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the proceeds of the market don’t go towards war
[2026-03-03 13:42:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| did that school full of little girls appear in your predictions?
[2026-03-03 13:42:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| did that school full of little girls appear in your predictions?
[2026-03-03 13:42:30] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Could be worse
[2026-03-03 13:42:30] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Could be worse
[2026-03-03 13:42:35] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the one that is yet to be proven?
[2026-03-03 13:42:35] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the one that is yet to be proven?
[2026-03-03 13:42:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| of course it was fucking proven
[2026-03-03 13:42:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| of course it was fucking proven
[2026-03-03 13:42:52] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| People could be gambling on what wars break out where
[2026-03-03 13:42:52] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| People could be gambling on what wars break out where
[2026-03-03 13:43:01] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| how does monitoring the situation make me morally accountable lol
[2026-03-03 13:43:01] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| how does monitoring the situation make me morally accountable lol
[2026-03-03 13:43:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| monitoring? no. Betting on human tragedy? yes
[2026-03-03 13:43:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| monitoring? no. Betting on human tragedy? yes
[2026-03-03 13:43:29] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:lava| gross
[2026-03-03 13:43:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:lava| gross
[2026-03-03 13:43:34] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Thats far from monitoring man
[2026-03-03 13:43:34] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Thats far from monitoring man
[2026-03-03 13:43:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:lava| seriously
[2026-03-03 13:43:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:lava| seriously
[2026-03-03 13:44:06] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Might as well send death threats to my house
[2026-03-03 13:44:06] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Might as well send death threats to my house
[2026-03-03 13:44:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ??
[2026-03-03 13:44:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ??
[2026-03-03 13:44:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you don’t even know the bets lmao
[2026-03-03 13:44:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you don’t even know the bets lmao
[2026-03-03 13:44:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i could be betting against damage
[2026-03-03 13:44:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i could be betting against damage
[2026-03-03 13:44:30] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Enlighten me then
[2026-03-03 13:44:30] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Enlighten me then
[2026-03-03 13:44:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| irrelevant
[2026-03-03 13:44:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| irrelevant
[2026-03-03 13:44:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’d love to hear the reasoning here
[2026-03-03 13:44:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’d love to hear the reasoning here
[2026-03-03 13:44:58] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Laugh less explain more
[2026-03-03 13:44:58] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Laugh less explain more
[2026-03-03 13:45:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know prediction markets are disconnected from the underlying event right
[2026-03-03 13:45:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you know prediction markets are disconnected from the underlying event right
[2026-03-03 13:45:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this would make for a fixed market
[2026-03-03 13:45:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this would make for a fixed market
[2026-03-03 13:45:31] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| No
[2026-03-03 13:45:31] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| No
[2026-03-03 13:45:43] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Im not an economics major lmao
[2026-03-03 13:45:43] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Im not an economics major lmao
[2026-03-03 13:46:00] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| so hold your moral outrage without reason please
[2026-03-03 13:46:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| so hold your moral outrage without reason please
[2026-03-03 13:46:12] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Hmmm
[2026-03-03 13:46:12] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Hmmm
[2026-03-03 13:46:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| We can have a reason or two
[2026-03-03 13:46:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| We can have a reason or two
[2026-03-03 13:46:33] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| As a treat
[2026-03-03 13:46:33] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| As a treat
[2026-03-03 13:46:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| go on then
[2026-03-03 13:46:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| go on then
[2026-03-03 13:47:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the truth is i haven’t actually bet on this market
[2026-03-03 13:47:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the truth is i haven’t actually bet on this market
[2026-03-03 13:47:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but not because i was morally against it
[2026-03-03 13:47:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but not because i was morally against it
[2026-03-03 13:47:50] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Unless the predictions live in fucking narnia i sure as fuck cant trust that info to not break out and do whatever the fuck info leaks do
[2026-03-03 13:47:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Unless the predictions live in fucking narnia i sure as fuck cant trust that info to not break out and do whatever the fuck info leaks do
[2026-03-03 13:48:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| wat
[2026-03-03 13:48:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| wat
[2026-03-03 13:48:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if anything
[2026-03-03 13:48:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if anything
[2026-03-03 13:48:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they are useful leaked?
[2026-03-03 13:48:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they are useful leaked?
[2026-03-03 13:48:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do you not want to know if people think a missile is headed your way?
[2026-03-03 13:48:42] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do you not want to know if people think a missile is headed your way?
[2026-03-03 13:48:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is super off topic at this point
[2026-03-03 13:48:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is super off topic at this point
[2026-03-03 13:49:05] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Then why bet on it at all
[2026-03-03 13:49:05] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Then why bet on it at all
[2026-03-03 13:49:15] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Why not just leak it
[2026-03-03 13:49:15] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Why not just leak it
[2026-03-03 13:49:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it’s not a “leak”
[2026-03-03 13:49:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it’s not a “leak”
[2026-03-03 13:49:35] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you can find all kinds of markets on polymarket
[2026-03-03 13:49:35] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you can find all kinds of markets on polymarket
[2026-03-03 13:49:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| all public, free to enter
[2026-03-03 13:49:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| all public, free to enter
[2026-03-03 13:49:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| well, besides your bet of course
[2026-03-03 13:49:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| well, besides your bet of course
[2026-03-03 13:50:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| or maybe you are positing something like this
[2026-03-03 13:50:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| or maybe you are positing something like this
[2026-03-03 13:50:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| “if you have knowledge that a strike is going to happen, it’s more morally appropriate to share that with the intended victims rather than bet on it”
[2026-03-03 13:50:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| “if you have knowledge that a strike is going to happen, it’s more morally appropriate to share that with the intended victims rather than bet on it”
[2026-03-03 13:51:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is true but i naturally don’t have knowledge like this
[2026-03-03 13:51:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is true but i naturally don’t have knowledge like this
[2026-03-03 13:51:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I have some off the shelf OSINT tools that everyone else has too
[2026-03-03 13:51:40] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I have some off the shelf OSINT tools that everyone else has too
[2026-03-03 13:53:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Not really everyone but eh thats just missing your point
[2026-03-03 13:53:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Not really everyone but eh thats just missing your point
[2026-03-03 13:53:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah i mean they’re as free and accessible as an internet hosted tool can be i suppose
[2026-03-03 13:53:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah i mean they’re as free and accessible as an internet hosted tool can be i suppose
[2026-03-03 13:54:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.airnavradar.com/
[2026-03-03 13:54:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.airnavradar.com/
[2026-03-03 13:54:35] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.marinetraffic.com/
[2026-03-03 13:54:35] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.marinetraffic.com/
[2026-03-03 13:54:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
[2026-03-03 13:54:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
[2026-03-03 13:54:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| etc
[2026-03-03 13:54:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| etc
[2026-03-03 13:54:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| good sites
[2026-03-03 13:54:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| good sites
[2026-03-03 13:55:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Even if you assume ideal conditions youre still potentially benefitting from the suffering of others
[2026-03-03 13:55:01] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Even if you assume ideal conditions youre still potentially benefitting from the suffering of others
[2026-03-03 13:55:57] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Assuming youre allowed to bet on a strike being true
[2026-03-03 13:55:57] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Assuming youre allowed to bet on a strike being true
[2026-03-03 13:56:13] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| arent we all?
[2026-03-03 13:56:13] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| arent we all?
[2026-03-03 13:56:22] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Aye
[2026-03-03 13:56:23] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Aye
[2026-03-03 13:56:41] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah that strikes me as hard to avoid
[2026-03-03 13:56:41] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah that strikes me as hard to avoid
[2026-03-03 13:56:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But theres a degree to it is it not
[2026-03-03 13:56:45] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But theres a degree to it is it not
[2026-03-03 13:56:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| most of the world i live in in London is the result of some form of exploit
[2026-03-03 13:56:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| most of the world i live in in London is the result of some form of exploit
[2026-03-03 13:57:20] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’m not sure i’m morally required to do much about about this
[2026-03-03 13:57:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’m not sure i’m morally required to do much about about this
[2026-03-03 13:57:52] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| so it’s ok to bet against it, but not for it?
[2026-03-03 13:57:52] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| so it’s ok to bet against it, but not for it?
[2026-03-03 13:58:00] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this would create not very useful information
[2026-03-03 13:58:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this would create not very useful information
[2026-03-03 13:58:21] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if we are using the theory that prediction markets and insurance are emerging sources of “truth” for loss
[2026-03-03 13:58:21] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| if we are using the theory that prediction markets and insurance are emerging sources of “truth” for loss
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[2026-03-03 14:03:12] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| It sure feels like im high anyways
[2026-03-03 14:03:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i made it home and now i’m watching the 2026 Thai TukTuk grand prix
[2026-03-03 14:03:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| are these popular where you’re at?
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[2026-03-03 14:05:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Nope
[2026-03-03 14:05:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Nope
[2026-03-03 14:05:25] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Im a hermit anyways
[2026-03-03 14:05:25] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Im a hermit anyways
[2026-03-03 14:06:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this surprise me
[2026-03-03 14:06:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this surprise me
[2026-03-03 14:06:13] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| kinda assumed they were all over south asia
[2026-03-03 14:06:13] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| kinda assumed they were all over south asia
[2026-03-03 14:06:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they look fun to drive
[2026-03-03 14:06:29] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they look fun to drive
[2026-03-03 14:07:39] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Tuktuks in general?
[2026-03-03 14:07:39] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Tuktuks in general?
[2026-03-03 14:08:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Yeah theyre a thing here
[2026-03-03 14:08:18] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ye
[2026-03-03 14:08:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Theyre a thing but idk about popularity
[2026-03-03 14:08:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Its enough to be a thing you just brush past
[2026-03-03 14:08:30] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Yeah theyre a thing here
[2026-03-03 14:08:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ye
[2026-03-03 14:08:30] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Theyre a thing but idk about popularity
[2026-03-03 14:08:30] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Its enough to be a thing you just brush past
[2026-03-03 14:14:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| racing them is chaos
[2026-03-03 14:14:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| racing them is chaos
[2026-03-03 14:17:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| @northernscrub re that specific strike on a school
[2026-03-03 14:17:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| @northernscrub re that specific strike on a school
[2026-03-03 14:17:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do you have anything concrete?
[2026-03-03 14:17:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| do you have anything concrete?
[2026-03-03 14:17:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’ve been looking but can’t find
[2026-03-03 14:17:27] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i’ve been looking but can’t find
[2026-03-03 14:17:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478471421108813954/v24025gl0000d6jerbfog65g4mdbjlg0.mov?ex=69a8854f&is=69a733cf&hm=48bda59561e74c773c69db97ea20e2e21104895991f0361e0f642d04f2df609b&
[2026-03-03 14:17:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478471421108813954/v24025gl0000d6jerbfog65g4mdbjlg0.mov?ex=69a8854f&is=69a733cf&hm=48bda59561e74c773c69db97ea20e2e21104895991f0361e0f642d04f2df609b&
[2026-03-03 14:17:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| DOW about as expressive as one would expect
[2026-03-03 14:17:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| DOW about as expressive as one would expect
[2026-03-03 14:19:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i must say doing any sort of social media browsing for this stuff is now an absolutely awful experience with AI
[2026-03-03 14:19:12] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i must say doing any sort of social media browsing for this stuff is now an absolutely awful experience with AI
[2026-03-03 14:19:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| practically every video i’ve seen today has been AI
[2026-03-03 14:19:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| practically every video i’ve seen today has been AI
[2026-03-03 14:20:40] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I’m interested, and not convinced, on what this is doing to humanities consciousness at large. I remain stalwart about the productivity gains on the whole.
[2026-03-03 14:20:40] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I’m interested, and not convinced, on what this is doing to humanities consciousness at large. I remain stalwart about the productivity gains on the whole.
[2026-03-03 14:23:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://x.com/mntruell/status/2028903020847841336?s=46
[2026-03-03 14:23:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://x.com/mntruell/status/2028903020847841336?s=46
[2026-03-03 14:23:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| 43 mins ago
[2026-03-03 14:23:42] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| 43 mins ago
[2026-03-03 14:25:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you see the skill of orchestrating AI is becoming a whole discipline in itself
[2026-03-03 14:25:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you see the skill of orchestrating AI is becoming a whole discipline in itself
[2026-03-03 14:25:21] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this will be important to master for the tools of the future
[2026-03-03 14:25:21] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this will be important to master for the tools of the future
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[2026-03-03 16:39:36] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| ๐Ÿ™ƒ
[2026-03-03 16:39:37] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478507098915733608/image.png?ex=69a8a689&is=69a75509&hm=6542152902ca6a9e4a4445aecf27154af9af083ca3c38bf6ac331efbdb99c537&
[2026-03-03 16:39:53] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| ๐Ÿ™ƒ
[2026-03-03 16:39:53] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1478507098915733608/image.png?ex=69a8a689&is=69a75509&hm=6542152902ca6a9e4a4445aecf27154af9af083ca3c38bf6ac331efbdb99c537&
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[2026-03-03 18:44:38] <Lucifer_arma> hahahaha.  I finally get "all" the ini files switched to xml, except for the one that started off using python's configparser, which got rewritten to use my own ini parser, which I've now scrapped
[2026-03-03 18:44:38] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| hahahaha.  I finally get "all" the ini files switched to xml, except for the one that started off using python's configparser, which got rewritten to use my own ini parser, which I've now scrapped
[2026-03-03 18:44:50] <Lucifer_arma> so now I have to rewrite it back to use python's configparser
[2026-03-03 18:44:51] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so now I have to rewrite it back to use python's configparser
[2026-03-03 18:45:50] <Lucifer_arma> well, it had some serious issues before, so I'll just redesign the config object to make some damn sense this time
[2026-03-03 18:45:50] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well, it had some serious issues before, so I'll just redesign the config object to make some damn sense this time
[2026-03-03 18:46:02] <Lucifer_arma> Might as well, since I have everything else ripped open.
[2026-03-03 18:46:02] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Might as well, since I have everything else ripped open.
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[2026-03-04 05:28:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2026-March/043510.html
[2026-03-04 05:28:20] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2026-March/043510.html
[2026-03-04 05:28:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| linx ppl discussing how they'd implement age verification at the OS level lmao
[2026-03-04 05:28:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| linx ppl discussing how they'd implement age verification at the OS level lmao
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[2026-03-04 07:51:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| forums seem to be down atm
[2026-03-04 07:51:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| forums seem to be down atm
[2026-03-04 08:40:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| works are in progress to migrate the forums onto RCL
[2026-03-04 08:40:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| works are in progress to migrate the forums onto RCL
[2026-03-04 08:40:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| as it stands they are very hard to maintain and quite flimsy
[2026-03-04 08:40:45] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| as it stands they are very hard to maintain and quite flimsy
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[2026-03-04 19:26:49] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| @anjo3060 hows andrei taking you doing your smear campaign
[2026-03-04 19:26:49] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| @anjo3060 hows andrei taking you doing your smear campaign
[2026-03-04 19:27:24] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| what
[2026-03-04 19:27:24] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| what
[2026-03-04 19:38:51] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| I cut andrei remember
[2026-03-04 19:38:51] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| I cut andrei remember
[2026-03-04 20:08:07] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:blockabled| My coffee machine has a OS so guess I'm gonna have to tap my age into that lmao
[2026-03-04 20:08:07] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:blockabled| My coffee machine has a OS so guess I'm gonna have to tap my age into that lmao

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[2026-03-05 00:33:55] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Yo question
[2026-03-05 00:33:55] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Yo question
[2026-03-05 00:34:38] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Is the time between inputs gonna be preserved? Because thats kinda vital for reading rubber usage
[2026-03-05 00:34:38] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Is the time between inputs gonna be preserved? Because thats kinda vital for reading rubber usage
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[2026-03-05 07:23:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| There's no intention to remove any of the configuration options in any of the branches, so ye
[2026-03-05 07:23:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| There's no intention to remove any of the configuration options in any of the branches, so ye
[2026-03-05 07:36:15] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| So reading opponent rubber usage is gonna be okay then
[2026-03-05 07:36:15] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| So reading opponent rubber usage is gonna be okay then
[2026-03-05 07:36:16] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Cool
[2026-03-05 07:36:16] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Cool
[2026-03-05 07:36:43] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's actually afeature in 0.4
[2026-03-05 07:36:43] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's actually afeature in 0.4
[2026-03-05 07:37:43] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Cockpit files having rubber bars?
[2026-03-05 07:37:43] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Cockpit files having rubber bars?
[2026-03-05 07:37:45] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Sure
[2026-03-05 07:37:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Sure
[2026-03-05 09:36:06] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Oh fun thing
[2026-03-05 09:36:06] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Oh fun thing
[2026-03-05 09:36:33] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| If you increase your camera fov really high you can make your cam crip walk
[2026-03-05 09:36:33] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| If you increase your camera fov really high you can make your cam crip walk
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[2026-03-05 14:25:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ennvvii| i just installed linux man
[2026-03-05 14:25:37] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:ennvvii| i just installed linux man
[2026-03-05 14:26:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:ennvvii| legally inescapable age verification hell be upon ye
[2026-03-05 14:26:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its insane and is missing the point of the tools
[2026-03-05 14:26:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its important we let kids break stuff
[2026-03-05 14:26:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| in an abstract sense
[2026-03-05 14:27:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but thats some other shit
[2026-03-05 14:27:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ennvvii| legally inescapable age verification hell be upon ye
[2026-03-05 14:27:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its insane and is missing the point of the tools
[2026-03-05 14:27:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its important we let kids break stuff
[2026-03-05 14:27:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| in an abstract sense
[2026-03-05 14:27:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but thats some other shit
[2026-03-05 14:27:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ennvvii| by "it" do you mean the law or the linked discussion
[2026-03-05 14:27:46] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:ennvvii| by "it" do you mean the law or the linked discussion
[2026-03-05 14:28:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| both i guess
[2026-03-05 14:28:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| both i guess
[2026-03-05 14:28:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they are so deeply connected the discussion is a natural effect of the law
[2026-03-05 14:28:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| they are so deeply connected the discussion is a natural effect of the law
[2026-03-05 14:28:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ennvvii| defines a >=18 age bracket but says it only applies to children which are defined as <18
[2026-03-05 14:28:57] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:ennvvii| defines a >=18 age bracket but says it only applies to children which are defined as <18
[2026-03-05 14:29:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ennvvii| ???
[2026-03-05 14:29:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:ennvvii| ???
[2026-03-05 14:32:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ennvvii| get them on linux. watch them run rm rf /, watch them get stuck in vim(been there)
[2026-03-05 14:32:37] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:ennvvii| get them on linux. watch them run rm rf /, watch them get stuck in vim(been there)
[2026-03-05 14:32:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ye!
[2026-03-05 14:32:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ye!
[2026-03-05 14:33:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| let them run agent swarms
[2026-03-05 14:33:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| let them run agent swarms
[2026-03-05 14:33:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ennvvii| whatever happened to ripping toys apart with only a faint idea of maybe actually putting them back together again
[2026-03-05 14:33:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:ennvvii| whatever happened to ripping toys apart with only a faint idea of maybe actually putting them back together again
[2026-03-05 14:33:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| farm waste across the world
[2026-03-05 14:33:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| farm waste across the world
[2026-03-05 14:33:53] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| our systems that are broken by a child were not real systems to begin with
[2026-03-05 14:33:53] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| our systems that are broken by a child were not real systems to begin with
[2026-03-05 14:34:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| hard to really translate this stuff though
[2026-03-05 14:34:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| hard to really translate this stuff though
[2026-03-05 14:34:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| people are mostly scared
[2026-03-05 14:34:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| people are mostly scared
[2026-03-05 14:53:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rgOPHBLj6VA
[2026-03-05 14:53:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i think about this a lot
[2026-03-05 14:53:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rgOPHBLj6VA
[2026-03-05 14:53:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i think about this a lot
[2026-03-05 14:55:04] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| Rick Rubin is simultaneously the goat and a fraud
[2026-03-05 14:55:04] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| Rick Rubin is simultaneously the goat and a fraud
[2026-03-05 14:57:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i read his book
[2026-03-05 14:57:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i enjoyed it a lot but i really kind of hoped for more
[2026-03-05 14:57:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| why fraud though?
[2026-03-05 14:58:01] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| his revenue sources seem legitimate
[2026-03-05 14:58:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i read his book
[2026-03-05 14:58:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i enjoyed it a lot but i really kind of hoped for more
[2026-03-05 14:58:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| why fraud though?
[2026-03-05 14:58:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| his revenue sources seem legitimate
[2026-03-05 14:59:01] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtHeCLagHa4/?hl=en
[2026-03-05 14:59:01] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtHeCLagHa4/?hl=en
[2026-03-05 14:59:12] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479206668159029380/IMG_3592.jpg?ex=69ab3210&is=69a9e090&hm=97062bb207095acd63ead4f5462ca75a4d2024df68cacd28601b92b61ab6ed94&
[2026-03-05 14:59:12] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479206668159029380/IMG_3592.jpg?ex=69ab3210&is=69a9e090&hm=97062bb207095acd63ead4f5462ca75a4d2024df68cacd28601b92b61ab6ed94&
[2026-03-05 15:00:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| aw see that loses it though right like so what if he is this weird talentless buddha like figure
[2026-03-05 15:00:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| aw see that loses it though right like so what if he is this weird talentless buddha like figure
[2026-03-05 15:00:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he produces real results with the artists he works with and that’s why he continues to get a lot of work
[2026-03-05 15:00:23] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he produces real results with the artists he works with and that’s why he continues to get a lot of work
[2026-03-05 15:01:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we don’t really have a good grasp on “skill”. Disciplines shift beneath our feet rapidly
[2026-03-05 15:01:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we don’t really have a good grasp on “skill”. Disciplines shift beneath our feet rapidly
[2026-03-05 15:01:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| outside of a specific domain, I do think this abstract skill manifests itself as this like "decisive taste"
[2026-03-05 15:01:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| outside of a specific domain, I do think this abstract skill manifests itself as this like "decisive taste"
[2026-03-05 15:06:52] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| Artists get stuck projects stuck between demos and finals all the time and its really easy to get lost and have decision fatigue when you’ve heard your own track 300+ times. I imagine he comes in at the moment and just tells them what they need to hear, good or bad
[2026-03-05 15:06:57] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| Artists get stuck projects stuck between demos and finals all the time and its really easy to get lost and have decision fatigue when you’ve heard your own track 300+ times. I imagine he comes in at the moment and just tells them what they need to hear, good or bad
[2026-03-05 15:11:54] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| His production discography is absolutely fucking insane so he must do something
[2026-03-05 15:11:54] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| His production discography is absolutely fucking insane so he must do something
[2026-03-05 15:47:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yep some secret sauce ppl just mad they dont have the sauce
[2026-03-05 15:47:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yep some secret sauce ppl just mad they dont have the sauce
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[2026-03-05 16:09:05] -!- Channel #armagetron created on 2021-05-20 17:23:14 UTC
[2026-03-05 16:37:02] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| He’s legit I think
[2026-03-05 16:37:02] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| He’s legit I think
[2026-03-05 16:38:50] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| A lot less hands on now but in his early days he put in some work and he basically helped forge hip hop into what it became iirc
[2026-03-05 16:38:50] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| A lot less hands on now but in his early days he put in some work and he basically helped forge hip hop into what it became iirc
[2026-03-05 16:56:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I couldn't make it though his book, it's complete nonsense. The most vapid platitudes I've ever laid eyes on. I think the guy is 100% fraud and more proof that luck plays the biggest part of success.
[2026-03-05 16:56:00] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I couldn't make it though his book, it's complete nonsense. The most vapid platitudes I've ever laid eyes on. I think the guy is 100% fraud and more proof that luck plays the biggest part of success.
[2026-03-05 16:57:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| The fact there are so many artists that worked with him and think he's a clown feels like my point is valid.
[2026-03-05 16:57:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| The fact there are so many artists that worked with him and think he's a clown feels like my point is valid.
[2026-03-05 16:59:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| :Shrug: I enjoyed it
[2026-03-05 16:59:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| :Shrug: I enjoyed it
[2026-03-05 16:59:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I particularly remember the point about submerging oneself in the canon. I apply this regularly
[2026-03-05 16:59:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I particularly remember the point about submerging oneself in the canon. I apply this regularly
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[2026-03-05 17:12:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| The girl who bought the book for me enjoyed it and thought I would too because I'm a "creative type" but in my case I basically never have writer's block and I'm a super deep thinker so reading something like "if you need inspiration maybe go for a walk and think about something different -- or maybe sit still and empty your thoughts" I'm like WOW HOLY SHIT SO AMAZING ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (sarca <clipped message>
[2026-03-05 17:12:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| The girl who bought the book for me enjoyed it and thought I would too because I'm a "creative type" but in my case I basically never have writer's block and I'm a super deep thinker so reading something like "if you need inspiration maybe go for a walk and think about something different -- or maybe sit still and empty your thoughts" I'm like WOW HOLY SHIT SO AMAZING ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (sarca <clipped message>
[2026-03-05 17:12:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| sm). I stopped after about 60 pages since it seemed like the whole book was like that. The thing is, I knew next to nothing about Rubin before reading that book and then was like how the fuck is this guy famous again?
[2026-03-05 17:12:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| sm). I stopped after about 60 pages since it seemed like the whole book was like that. The thing is, I knew next to nothing about Rubin before reading that book and then was like how the fuck is this guy famous again?
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[2026-03-05 17:16:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I empathise with a lot of the points made feeling overly "intuitive" in a sense. I think though it serves as a nice individual tool for those projects that do end up consuming ones soul to the point that meaning generally becomes blurry. Like KB said above there are numerous points in the creative process that can leave one feeling stuck, no matter the scale of success or the ind <clipped message>
[2026-03-05 17:16:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I empathise with a lot of the points made feeling overly "intuitive" in a sense. I think though it serves as a nice individual tool for those projects that do end up consuming ones soul to the point that meaning generally becomes blurry. Like KB said above there are numerous points in the creative process that can leave one feeling stuck, no matter the scale of success or the ind <clipped message>
[2026-03-05 17:16:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ividual discipline. Books are tools in this way, the knowledge doesn't have to land strictly in the abstract, you can just practically apply it when necessary
[2026-03-05 17:16:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ividual discipline. Books are tools in this way, the knowledge doesn't have to land strictly in the abstract, you can just practically apply it when necessary
[2026-03-05 17:17:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| That is to say if you read the textbook of creativity and found no new knowledge there, great! It is though akin to an English reader reading an English textbook and not feeling enlightened by the end of it.
[2026-03-05 17:17:45] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| That is to say if you read the textbook of creativity and found no new knowledge there, great! It is though akin to an English reader reading an English textbook and not feeling enlightened by the end of it.
[2026-03-05 17:26:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| https://youtu.be/fyp3Gqwnjx8?si=GzNxmTsMCaJGXnFM
[2026-03-05 17:26:23] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| https://youtu.be/fyp3Gqwnjx8?si=GzNxmTsMCaJGXnFM
[2026-03-05 17:26:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| I haven't listened to the whole thing but I love Beastie Boys and Spike Jonze
[2026-03-05 17:26:43] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| I haven't listened to the whole thing but I love Beastie Boys and Spike Jonze
[2026-03-05 17:26:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| Don't know a lot about this Rick Rubin
[2026-03-05 17:26:52] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| Don't know a lot about this Rick Rubin
[2026-03-05 17:26:54] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| Shouldnt you be working?
[2026-03-05 17:26:54] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| Shouldnt you be working?
[2026-03-05 17:27:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479243977415725076/image0.gif?ex=69ab54cf&is=69aa034f&hm=ba94fc3c5740a1cbb386d84efaccfdee796e1aab2d5915531cb72bc1fdf6fcbb&
[2026-03-05 17:27:27] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479243977415725076/image0.gif?ex=69ab54cf&is=69aa034f&hm=ba94fc3c5740a1cbb386d84efaccfdee796e1aab2d5915531cb72bc1fdf6fcbb&
[2026-03-05 17:27:28] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| yeah you heard me miss
[2026-03-05 17:27:28] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| yeah you heard me miss
[2026-03-05 17:27:31] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| lol
[2026-03-05 17:27:31] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| lol
[2026-03-05 17:50:52] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479249869779763372/IMG_0738.png?ex=69ab5a4c&is=69aa08cc&hm=fcd6ba7da8a04f790cd5442a407928d1bad1e42adbc34546f897befdc68d78f4&
[2026-03-05 17:50:52] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479249869779763372/IMG_0738.png?ex=69ab5a4c&is=69aa08cc&hm=fcd6ba7da8a04f790cd5442a407928d1bad1e42adbc34546f897befdc68d78f4&
[2026-03-05 17:56:31] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| hes contributed heavily to countless extremely well regarded albums
[2026-03-05 17:56:31] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| hes contributed heavily to countless extremely well regarded albums
[2026-03-05 17:57:23] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| i wouldnt be so quick to write him off as a fraud just because your views and ideals dont particularly align with him
[2026-03-05 17:57:23] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| i wouldnt be so quick to write him off as a fraud just because your views and ideals dont particularly align with him
[2026-03-05 22:19:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:liamspies| got new computer, trying to save settings autoexec.cfg but dont have permisson. someone know fix?
[2026-03-05 22:19:55] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:liamspies| got new computer, trying to save settings autoexec.cfg but dont have permisson. someone know fix?
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[2026-03-05 22:44:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I'm sorry, I don't take anything a Nazi says seriously. Ye can go fuck himself.
[2026-03-05 22:44:44] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I'm sorry, I don't take anything a Nazi says seriously. Ye can go fuck himself.
[2026-03-05 23:02:10] <Lucifer_arma> Did Elon say something again?
[2026-03-05 23:02:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Did Elon say something again?
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[2026-03-05 23:42:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| No, talking about Kanye West's praise for Rick Rubin, who I think is an extremely overrated producer.
[2026-03-05 23:42:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| No, talking about Kanye West's praise for Rick Rubin, who I think is an extremely overrated producer.

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[2026-03-06 04:10:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.asc.ox.ac.uk/past-examination-papers
[2026-03-06 04:10:40] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.asc.ox.ac.uk/past-examination-papers
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[2026-03-06 04:43:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.youtube.com/@KnockoutAudit
[2026-03-06 04:43:03] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.youtube.com/@KnockoutAudit
[2026-03-06 04:43:11] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i spent hours watching this channel last night
[2026-03-06 04:43:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i spent hours watching this channel last night
[2026-03-06 04:43:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| "random man with camera who knows how to fight" vs nightlife and protests
[2026-03-06 04:43:27] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| "random man with camera who knows how to fight" vs nightlife and protests
[2026-03-06 04:43:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he's a little bit right wing which is a shame but man this content is funny
[2026-03-06 04:43:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he's a little bit right wing which is a shame but man this content is funny
[2026-03-06 04:48:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The only artist who's autobiography I've really enjoyed was Corey Taylor, and then mostly because it wasn't really about the music, per se, but about his early life in general.
[2026-03-06 04:48:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| The only artist who's autobiography I've really enjoyed was Corey Taylor, and then mostly because it wasn't really about the music, per se, but about his early life in general.
[2026-03-06 04:52:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i wouldnt call the creative act an autobiography
[2026-03-06 04:52:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i wouldnt call the creative act an autobiography
[2026-03-06 04:52:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it can be read more literally as a "how to create"
[2026-03-06 04:52:45] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it can be read more literally as a "how to create"
[2026-03-06 04:53:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| meh, potato tomato.
[2026-03-06 04:53:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| meh, potato tomato.
[2026-03-06 04:53:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you ever been into activism deli?
[2026-03-06 04:53:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you ever been into activism deli?
[2026-03-06 04:54:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the military boots and the bomber jacket and the patches etc
[2026-03-06 04:54:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the military boots and the bomber jacket and the patches etc
[2026-03-06 04:55:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wouldn't say I've ever "been into activism", and activism as an identiy is a bit shallow imo. I'll happily pillage and burn for something vitally important, if it becomes necessary
[2026-03-06 04:55:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wouldn't say I've ever "been into activism", and activism as an identiy is a bit shallow imo. I'll happily pillage and burn for something vitally important, if it becomes necessary
[2026-03-06 04:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a shallow identity perhaps but an identity nonethless
[2026-03-06 04:56:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a shallow identity perhaps but an identity nonethless
[2026-03-06 04:57:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and they have storied pasts in the history of UK protest
[2026-03-06 04:57:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and they have storied pasts in the history of UK protest
[2026-03-06 04:57:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| naturally going back to cable street and the physical stopping of the fascists
[2026-03-06 04:57:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| naturally going back to cable street and the physical stopping of the fascists
[2026-03-06 04:57:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| seemed to work
[2026-03-06 04:57:21] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| seemed to work
[2026-03-06 04:57:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im curious as to the networks massively
[2026-03-06 04:57:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im curious as to the networks massively
[2026-03-06 04:57:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Iunno if any of those people held activism as part of their identity. I rather think they just saw a need to gather and did so
[2026-03-06 04:57:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Iunno if any of those people held activism as part of their identity. I rather think they just saw a need to gather and did so
[2026-03-06 04:58:00] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| nah
[2026-03-06 04:58:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| nah
[2026-03-06 04:58:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| some of these guys are paid
[2026-03-06 04:58:06] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| some of these guys are paid
[2026-03-06 04:58:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and semi pro
[2026-03-06 04:58:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and semi pro
[2026-03-06 04:58:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| what in the qanon
[2026-03-06 04:58:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| what in the qanon
[2026-03-06 04:58:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wanq7M4wjos
[2026-03-06 04:58:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wanq7M4wjos
[2026-03-06 04:58:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| check out 1:20 or so
[2026-03-06 04:58:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| check out 1:20 or so
[2026-03-06 04:58:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| as he approaches, there are guys that signal that they are "grifters"
[2026-03-06 04:58:48] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| as he approaches, there are guys that signal that they are "grifters"
[2026-03-06 04:59:12] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and he makes this monologue about being here to protect the lefties
[2026-03-06 04:59:13] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| and he makes this monologue about being here to protect the lefties
[2026-03-06 04:59:29] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he is a big guy too, i think he is hired muscle in a sense
[2026-03-06 04:59:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he is a big guy too, i think he is hired muscle in a sense
[2026-03-06 05:00:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I think you're seeing things that aren't there
[2026-03-06 05:00:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I think you're seeing things that aren't there
[2026-03-06 05:00:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| wtf?
[2026-03-06 05:00:18] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| wtf?
[2026-03-06 05:00:51] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| 2:20 he monologues a bit
[2026-03-06 05:00:52] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| 2:20 he monologues a bit
[2026-03-06 05:01:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he admits he is antifa in some capacity, his badge says "a platform for fascists" and depicts a noose
[2026-03-06 05:01:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he admits he is antifa in some capacity, his badge says "a platform for fascists" and depicts a noose
[2026-03-06 05:01:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im not saying this is some conspiracy
[2026-03-06 05:01:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im not saying this is some conspiracy
[2026-03-06 05:01:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| big blokey's reference to grifters is a reference to people who turn up at protests after begging on the internet for donations.
[2026-03-06 05:01:23] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| big blokey's reference to grifters is a reference to people who turn up at protests after begging on the internet for donations.
[2026-03-06 05:01:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but it seems like he is part of some network that is responding on the ground
[2026-03-06 05:01:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but it seems like he is part of some network that is responding on the ground
[2026-03-06 05:01:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| there's no singular organisation called "antifa"
[2026-03-06 05:01:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| there's no singular organisation called "antifa"
[2026-03-06 05:01:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i know
[2026-03-06 05:01:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i know
[2026-03-06 05:01:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im not saying this is some conspiracy
[2026-03-06 05:01:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im not saying this is some conspiracy
[2026-03-06 05:02:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| big blokey saw a badge on etsy or smth and bought it. It's not some deep symbology
[2026-03-06 05:02:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| big blokey saw a badge on etsy or smth and bought it. It's not some deep symbology
[2026-03-06 05:04:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| "paid actors" is the sort of thing that fkn alex jones or stephen yaxley-lennon would say. It's a bad-faith argument intended to discredit anyone who opposes them. The "crisis actors" shtick has been around for years, and to my knowledge it hasn't been true once
[2026-03-06 05:04:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| "paid actors" is the sort of thing that fkn alex jones or stephen yaxley-lennon would say. It's a bad-faith argument intended to discredit anyone who opposes them. The "crisis actors" shtick has been around for years, and to my knowledge it hasn't been true once
[2026-03-06 05:05:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| big blokey is a bit of a dense bastard, maybe.
[2026-03-06 05:05:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| big blokey is a bit of a dense bastard, maybe.
[2026-03-06 05:06:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| also, bear in mind that knockout audit is a properly far right channel.
[2026-03-06 05:06:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| also, bear in mind that knockout audit is a properly far right channel.
[2026-03-06 05:06:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| And, with that, I think that's enough controversial politicking for this channel for the day.
[2026-03-06 05:06:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| And, with that, I think that's enough controversial politicking for this channel for the day.
[2026-03-06 05:12:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it's not
[2026-03-06 05:12:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| it's not
[2026-03-06 05:12:53] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| trust me lol, i tried to find evidence of this
[2026-03-06 05:12:53] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| trust me lol, i tried to find evidence of this
[2026-03-06 05:13:19] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he is very unfortunately stuck in that position where he is ignorant, and this ignorance is viewed as fascism
[2026-03-06 05:13:19] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he is very unfortunately stuck in that position where he is ignorant, and this ignorance is viewed as fascism
[2026-03-06 05:13:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he finds himself at home in the right side of the protests for very natural reasons
[2026-03-06 05:13:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he finds himself at home in the right side of the protests for very natural reasons
[2026-03-06 05:13:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he's on the right side of the center 100% but he isn't informed enough to be "far right"
[2026-03-06 05:13:54] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| he's on the right side of the center 100% but he isn't informed enough to be "far right"
[2026-03-06 05:14:14] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you can see this when he encounters actual figures on the right and he's like "oh right" like not really understanding what is being monologued at him
[2026-03-06 05:14:14] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you can see this when he encounters actual figures on the right and he's like "oh right" like not really understanding what is being monologued at him
[2026-03-06 05:15:13] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im really not interested in the politics that much though but the logistics of activism fascinate me deeply
[2026-03-06 05:15:13] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| im really not interested in the politics that much though but the logistics of activism fascinate me deeply
[2026-03-06 05:15:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah, you are being reactionary here, just because i said the words they say doesn't mean i'm being bad faith
[2026-03-06 05:15:45] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| yeah, you are being reactionary here, just because i said the words they say doesn't mean i'm being bad faith
[2026-03-06 05:17:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| "Im a leftie. I offer protection to the leftists, you know with the purple hair and all the weak ones, the soyboys and so on, they can't really look after themselves so I step in and do that for them"
[2026-03-06 05:17:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| "Im a leftie. I offer protection to the leftists, you know with the purple hair and all the weak ones, the soyboys and so on, they can't really look after themselves so I step in and do that for them"
[2026-03-06 05:17:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this was what he said verbatim at 2:55
[2026-03-06 05:17:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this was what he said verbatim at 2:55
[2026-03-06 05:18:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i'm not here to debate the morality of such positions but just curious on how logistically they manage to pull this offf. it's impressive, if anything
[2026-03-06 05:18:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i'm not here to debate the morality of such positions but just curious on how logistically they manage to pull this offf. it's impressive, if anything
[2026-03-06 05:24:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Well, we can either go into a long drawn out debate over text, or we can not. Today I have to choose the latter. For one I have a shitload of work to do, for the other I don't have the energy to dive into this shit. Suffice it to say, I don't much care for the likes of he, the big blokey is an eedjit, communism fucking sucks, organising a large public gathering is simultaneously  <clipped message>
[2026-03-06 05:24:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Well, we can either go into a long drawn out debate over text, or we can not. Today I have to choose the latter. For one I have a shitload of work to do, for the other I don't have the energy to dive into this shit. Suffice it to say, I don't much care for the likes of he, the big blokey is an eedjit, communism fucking sucks, organising a large public gathering is simultaneously  <clipped message>
[2026-03-06 05:24:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| easier and harder than you think, and frankly I'd rather be building homes and suggesting ways of integrating peoples than standing out in the wet and shouting into the void only to be rugby tackled by an over-enthusiastic copper who thinks the Met are an ideal image of policing.
[2026-03-06 05:24:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| easier and harder than you think, and frankly I'd rather be building homes and suggesting ways of integrating peoples than standing out in the wet and shouting into the void only to be rugby tackled by an over-enthusiastic copper who thinks the Met are an ideal image of policing.
[2026-03-06 05:30:26] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| that we can agree on
[2026-03-06 05:30:26] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| that we can agree on
[2026-03-06 07:34:15] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| saw this with no context. thought big blokey was the extremely british version of Big Brother
[2026-03-06 07:34:15] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| saw this with no context. thought big blokey was the extremely british version of Big Brother
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[2026-03-06 09:37:59] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:king_of_oreo| how can i make a server sumo for me and my friends?
[2026-03-06 09:37:59] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:king_of_oreo| how can i make a server sumo for me and my friends?
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[2026-03-06 12:29:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| step 1: host a server
[2026-03-06 12:29:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| step 1: host a server
[2026-03-06 12:29:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| step 2: expose it to your friends
[2026-03-06 12:29:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| step 2: expose it to your friends
[2026-03-06 12:29:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| step 3: include sumo config
[2026-03-06 12:29:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| step 3: include sumo config
[2026-03-06 12:31:42] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:king_of_oreo| How do I add the sumo config?
[2026-03-06 12:31:43] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:king_of_oreo| How do I add the sumo config?
[2026-03-06 12:42:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| RINCLUDE
[2026-03-06 12:42:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| RINCLUDE
[2026-03-06 12:42:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| then something from the resource
[2026-03-06 12:42:33] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| then something from the resource
[2026-03-06 12:44:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| MAP_FILE vov/configs/sumobar.cfg
[2026-03-06 12:44:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this would work for example
[2026-03-06 12:44:19] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| MAP_FILE vov/configs/sumobar.cfg
[2026-03-06 12:44:19] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this would work for example
[2026-03-06 13:54:37] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system| Communism is fkin great as it should distribute wealth to everyone. There have been not many examples of it being properly applied tho. E.g animal farm was written coz in the UdSSR it was not... Ideal (fkin terror regime)
[2026-03-06 13:54:37] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:stereo_system| Communism is fkin great as it should distribute wealth to everyone. There have been not many examples of it being properly applied tho. E.g animal farm was written coz in the UdSSR it was not... Ideal (fkin terror regime)
[2026-03-06 13:54:37] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system|  Same in GDR or China. However you may want to read George Orwells travel logs of anarcho-communism in Spain 
[2026-03-06 13:54:37] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:stereo_system|  Same in GDR or China. However you may want to read George Orwells travel logs of anarcho-communism in Spain 
[2026-03-06 13:54:38] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system| (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia) 
[2026-03-06 13:54:38] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:stereo_system| (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia) 
[2026-03-06 13:54:39] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system| Also, a failure to distribute wealth more equally, while retaining the variety of products needs to be done digitally. Something we did not have in the past. 
[2026-03-06 13:54:39] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:stereo_system| Also, a failure to distribute wealth more equally, while retaining the variety of products needs to be done digitally. Something we did not have in the past. 
[2026-03-06 13:54:41] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system| Nowadays forms of collective can be seen as inspiration for future organization like crowdfunding, crowd sourcing an open source.
[2026-03-06 13:54:41] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:stereo_system| Nowadays forms of collective can be seen as inspiration for future organization like crowdfunding, crowd sourcing an open source.
[2026-03-06 13:54:42] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system| Also. In the next 2 decades so many jobs will be lost to AI, further mechanisation, automation and whatsoever... It soon will come again down to who owns the machines... Even tho we're the ones operating// or rather overseeing them.
[2026-03-06 13:54:42] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:stereo_system| Also. In the next 2 decades so many jobs will be lost to AI, further mechanisation, automation and whatsoever... It soon will come again down to who owns the machines... Even tho we're the ones operating// or rather overseeing them.
[2026-03-06 13:59:27] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system| IMO the machines/means of production should be owned by everyone. And imagine being able to vote for  the wages being payed. Like restricting too  much wealth.
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[2026-03-06 14:21:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Communism only works in theory. In reality, it makes it far, *far* too easy for anyone to remove competition by simply accusing them of working against the collective, or not pulling their weight, etcetera. It also, classically, gives one person or group of persons far, *far* too much power over the rest. 
[2026-03-06 14:21:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Communism only works in theory. In reality, it makes it far, *far* too easy for anyone to remove competition by simply accusing them of working against the collective, or not pulling their weight, etcetera. It also, classically, gives one person or group of persons far, *far* too much power over the rest. 
[2026-03-06 14:21:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| This is not because the idea is shit, but because it doesn't suit the natural state of humans. We are, by nature, competitive - and thus require an environment that fosters this nature whilst maintaining sensible safeguards to ensure a reasonable baseline for survival. 
[2026-03-06 14:21:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| This is not because the idea is shit, but because it doesn't suit the natural state of humans. We are, by nature, competitive - and thus require an environment that fosters this nature whilst maintaining sensible safeguards to ensure a reasonable baseline for survival. 
[2026-03-06 14:21:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| In practise, this implies a general, well-regulated capitalist society, that takes structural elements of socialism (such as healthcare, housing, education, utilities and transport) and mandates minimum levels of competence within those same elements. Rail services are a fantastic example of this - a well run national rail system implies a publicly owned infrastructure network, a <clipped message>
[2026-03-06 14:21:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| In practise, this implies a general, well-regulated capitalist society, that takes structural elements of socialism (such as healthcare, housing, education, utilities and transport) and mandates minimum levels of competence within those same elements. Rail services are a fantastic example of this - a well run national rail system implies a publicly owned infrastructure network, a <clipped message>
[2026-03-06 14:21:38] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| nd a basic level of service. Private industry then can compete on this basis, by running on this same network (thereby funding the upkeep of the same), and offering more specialised services - such as direct routes, greater amenities, loyalty schemes, luxury classes, etcetera. 
[2026-03-06 14:21:38] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| nd a basic level of service. Private industry then can compete on this basis, by running on this same network (thereby funding the upkeep of the same), and offering more specialised services - such as direct routes, greater amenities, loyalty schemes, luxury classes, etcetera. 
[2026-03-06 14:21:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| In this way, the element of competition is maintained, whilst the safeguards against catastrophe are firmly established. Nobody has an overage of power, and nobody is left out. You don't even need to mandate a maximum wage with this approach - that is an american fantasy that should not be maintained. Instead, you can simply mandate that, onec a certain degree of success has been <clipped message>
[2026-03-06 14:21:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| In this way, the element of competition is maintained, whilst the safeguards against catastrophe are firmly established. Nobody has an overage of power, and nobody is left out. You don't even need to mandate a maximum wage with this approach - that is an american fantasy that should not be maintained. Instead, you can simply mandate that, onec a certain degree of success has been <clipped message>
[2026-03-06 14:21:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent|  generated, you forward this on to others. Perhaps in the way that I plan to, should my business become successufl - by providing space for others to work on their own businesses in ultra-cheap offices, and providing access to funding for their requisite equipment, alongside mentorship schemes and so on.
[2026-03-06 14:21:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent|  generated, you forward this on to others. Perhaps in the way that I plan to, should my business become successufl - by providing space for others to work on their own businesses in ultra-cheap offices, and providing access to funding for their requisite equipment, alongside mentorship schemes and so on.
[2026-03-06 14:23:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I also put forward that negating a small amount of one's taxable income by funding a public infrastriucture project of one's choice should be an option. If we had that sorta shit, whereby a super-rich version of me could pop out and, providing plannign and other such requirements were met, build a bridge or a maglev or some shit, we'd be living in 3026 in no time at all
[2026-03-06 14:23:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I also put forward that negating a small amount of one's taxable income by funding a public infrastriucture project of one's choice should be an option. If we had that sorta shit, whereby a super-rich version of me could pop out and, providing plannign and other such requirements were met, build a bridge or a maglev or some shit, we'd be living in 3026 in no time at all
[2026-03-06 14:24:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| naturally such an idea would need proper regulation and inspection, but wouldn't it be fucking cool to roll out tomorrow and build a tunnel under the Tyne named after myself
[2026-03-06 14:24:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| naturally such an idea would need proper regulation and inspection, but wouldn't it be fucking cool to roll out tomorrow and build a tunnel under the Tyne named after myself
[2026-03-06 14:24:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| or maybe several bridges
[2026-03-06 14:24:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| or maybe several bridges
[2026-03-06 14:24:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| fuck knows we need some up here, tyne bridge is always chocka
[2026-03-06 14:24:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| fuck knows we need some up here, tyne bridge is always chocka
[2026-03-06 14:25:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| "oh hey, let's combine five major regional roads and shove them through a two-lane bridge limited to 30mph
[2026-03-06 14:25:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| "oh hey, let's combine five major regional roads and shove them through a two-lane bridge limited to 30mph
[2026-03-06 14:26:33] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:stereo_system| oooof, so many wrongs, you still 3wanna talk aboutz it hit me in vc
[2026-03-06 14:26:33] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system| oooof, so many wrongs, you still 3wanna talk aboutz it hit me in vc
[2026-03-06 14:27:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I mean, a huge amount of this is subjective, so there's not a lot of wrong or right here - but I'm not the person who came up with that reasoning for communism not beng a functional solution
[2026-03-06 14:27:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I mean, a huge amount of this is subjective, so there's not a lot of wrong or right here - but I'm not the person who came up with that reasoning for communism not beng a functional solution
[2026-03-06 14:27:21] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:stereo_system| otherwise give me some time to respond to all of this
[2026-03-06 14:27:22] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system| otherwise give me some time to respond to all of this
[2026-03-06 14:27:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| lets vc, and not take over chat again
[2026-03-06 14:27:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| lets vc, and not take over chat again
[2026-03-06 14:28:14] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:stereo_system| ok ๐Ÿ˜„
[2026-03-06 14:28:14] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:stereo_system| ok ๐Ÿ˜„
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[2026-03-06 14:58:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| But I'm nosy!!!
[2026-03-06 14:58:34] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| But I'm nosy!!!
[2026-03-06 14:58:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| https://tenor.com/view/ali-nosey-va-gif-22974629
[2026-03-06 14:58:49] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| https://tenor.com/view/ali-nosey-va-gif-22974629
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[2026-03-06 15:17:04] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:monkey_money| onheschnitzel
[2026-03-06 15:17:04] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:monkey_money| onheschnitzel
[2026-03-06 15:17:05] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:monkey_money| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479573550322024680/ohneschnitzel-v0-zfqipaeq8xhg1.png?ex=69ac87bf&is=69ab363f&hm=4ca97a5e08ba600a01c1b3b8a339c74de16d1b2cb189b8bcc2d7c7f5b612d3f4&
[2026-03-06 15:17:05] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:monkey_money| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479573550322024680/ohneschnitzel-v0-zfqipaeq8xhg1.png?ex=69ac87bf&is=69ab363f&hm=4ca97a5e08ba600a01c1b3b8a339c74de16d1b2cb189b8bcc2d7c7f5b612d3f4&
[2026-03-06 16:45:45] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| communism should be great in theory, sure. but due to the simple nature of being a human it is inherently flawed. i come from an ex-communist country and many of the people i've spoken to have experienced its horrors first-hand
[2026-03-06 16:45:45] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| communism should be great in theory, sure. but due to the simple nature of being a human it is inherently flawed. i come from an ex-communist country and many of the people i've spoken to have experienced its horrors first-hand
[2026-03-06 16:50:03] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| there is a huge amount of written texts ranging from documentaries to auto-biographies talking about the horrors of the romanian communist regime. young children in orphanages were being starved and tied to their beds simply for being disabled
[2026-03-06 16:50:03] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| there is a huge amount of written texts ranging from documentaries to auto-biographies talking about the horrors of the romanian communist regime. young children in orphanages were being starved and tied to their beds simply for being disabled
[2026-03-06 16:51:10] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:felipe1905.| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479597231169474842/IMG-20260226-WA9447.jpg?ex=69ac9dcd&is=69ab4c4d&hm=4bae5a4b038011e8467c1e5239e12dca1a25aeb22f6eabb9af60e2b88e0ffd79&
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[2026-03-06 16:52:00] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| @olive2306  in all channels
[2026-03-06 16:52:00] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| @olive2306  in all channels
[2026-03-06 16:52:16] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| saw you're active :)
[2026-03-06 16:52:16] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| saw you're active :)
[2026-03-06 19:31:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Tell me more about this ex-Communist country you are from. You have no first hand experience, so what do you know second-hand?
[2026-03-06 19:31:12] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Tell me more about this ex-Communist country you are from. You have no first hand experience, so what do you know second-hand?
[2026-03-06 19:46:02] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| people are not equal. justice is not about equality. communism, as well as Marxism, is really really bad thing.
[2026-03-06 19:46:02] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:ℜ๐”ข๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ:Player51| people are not equal. justice is not about equality. communism, as well as Marxism, is really really bad thing.
[2026-03-06 20:00:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I disagree. I think you might not fully appreciate Marx's writing, which wouldn't be surprising since almost no one reads Marx, they just hear about it from media.
[2026-03-06 20:00:39] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I disagree. I think you might not fully appreciate Marx's writing, which wouldn't be surprising since almost no one reads Marx, they just hear about it from media.
[2026-03-06 20:02:36] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| “people are not equal” ok buddy it’s bed time
[2026-03-06 20:02:36] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:kronkleberry| “people are not equal” ok buddy it’s bed time
[2026-03-06 20:26:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479651538380128389/image0.gif?ex=69acd061&is=69ab7ee1&hm=20f30e08c43bf5043d8eb61acb38638c21bb16b976449f2759304cb0494c699d&
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[2026-03-06 20:29:40] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:.starlynx_| hello
[2026-03-06 20:29:40] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:.starlynx_| hello
[2026-03-06 20:30:04] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:.starlynx_| I am new to this game any video or tips?
[2026-03-06 20:30:04] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:.starlynx_| I am new to this game any video or tips?
[2026-03-06 20:31:37] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:.starlynx_| why is this chat so pollitical?
[2026-03-06 20:31:37] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:.starlynx_| why is this chat so pollitical?
[2026-03-06 20:33:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| It's generally not political, maybe once every few weeks and the conversations are short.
[2026-03-06 20:33:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| It's generally not political, maybe once every few weeks and the conversations are short.
[2026-03-06 20:34:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| There are some videos on basics here:
[2026-03-06 20:34:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| There are some videos on basics here:
[2026-03-06 20:34:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| https://tinyurl.com/retrocycles
[2026-03-06 20:34:34] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| https://tinyurl.com/retrocycles
[2026-03-06 20:39:20] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:.starlynx_| thanks
[2026-03-06 20:39:20] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:.starlynx_| thanks
[2026-03-06 20:40:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| The advice all new players get really boils down to how you set up your keyboard for movement. The entire game is turning left or right, so you are going to do that thousands of times and you should be comfortable while playing. You can bind multiple keys to turns (and looking around) which some people find helpful and might make repeated turns easier. The second most popular adv <clipped message>
[2026-03-06 20:40:08] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| The advice all new players get really boils down to how you set up your keyboard for movement. The entire game is turning left or right, so you are going to do that thousands of times and you should be comfortable while playing. You can bind multiple keys to turns (and looking around) which some people find helpful and might make repeated turns easier. The second most popular adv <clipped message>
[2026-03-06 20:40:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ice is choosing the best camera view, and a lot of players make custom camera settings. The third level of advice is learning how to be aware of "rubber", which is a network function that prevents you from crashing while the server resolves game movements. Basically you have a short period of time to evade a wall and that's your rubber.
[2026-03-06 20:40:09] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ice is choosing the best camera view, and a lot of players make custom camera settings. The third level of advice is learning how to be aware of "rubber", which is a network function that prevents you from crashing while the server resolves game movements. Basically you have a short period of time to evade a wall and that's your rubber.
[2026-03-06 20:46:06] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:moojuice08| what is going on in this chat??
[2026-03-06 20:46:06] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:moojuice08| what is going on in this chat??
[2026-03-06 20:49:41] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:moojuice08| corruption is the foil of both arguments. either could work if they operated in the way it said they would but, there's always something that will exploit it. should it be better for more to benefit or fewer?
[2026-03-06 20:49:41] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:moojuice08| corruption is the foil of both arguments. either could work if they operated in the way it said they would but, there's always something that will exploit it. should it be better for more to benefit or fewer?
[2026-03-06 21:22:38] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:davorook| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479665553143627826/IMG_4908.png?ex=69acdd6e&is=69ab8bee&hm=328b1117742a2f8506b8f4b3eaeb1bb692817c516848d96b77cebc417ec5525a&
[2026-03-06 21:22:39] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:davorook| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479665553143627826/IMG_4908.png?ex=69acdd6e&is=69ab8bee&hm=328b1117742a2f8506b8f4b3eaeb1bb692817c516848d96b77cebc417ec5525a&
[2026-03-06 23:07:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| !add
[2026-03-06 23:07:47] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| !add
[2026-03-06 23:07:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| wolmp womp
[2026-03-06 23:07:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| wolmp womp
[2026-03-06 23:16:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| guys
[2026-03-06 23:16:04] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| guys
[2026-03-06 23:16:08] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| how I change keybinds
[2026-03-06 23:16:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| how I change keybinds
[2026-03-06 23:20:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| ngl this game looks fire
[2026-03-06 23:20:07] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| ngl this game looks fire
[2026-03-06 23:22:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| oh what
[2026-03-06 23:22:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| oh what
[2026-03-06 23:23:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| this is much more complex
[2026-03-06 23:23:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| this is much more complex
[2026-03-06 23:23:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| rubbere used
[2026-03-06 23:23:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| rubbere used
[2026-03-06 23:23:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| max speed
[2026-03-06 23:23:17] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| max speed
[2026-03-06 23:23:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| delayed brakes
[2026-03-06 23:23:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| delayed brakes
[2026-03-06 23:23:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| whats the fastest people have gotten
[2026-03-06 23:23:42] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| whats the fastest people have gotten
[2026-03-06 23:35:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| oo nvm got it
[2026-03-06 23:35:20] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:tailbamboo| oo nvm got it

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[2026-03-07 01:00:56] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Woah what the shits going on
[2026-03-07 01:00:56] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Woah what the shits going on
[2026-03-07 01:15:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| little friday night tron party
[2026-03-07 01:15:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| little friday night tron party
[2026-03-07 01:15:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| u know how it goes
[2026-03-07 01:15:20] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| u know how it goes
[2026-03-07 01:15:32] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| The cams do be crazy lmao
[2026-03-07 01:15:33] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| The cams do be crazy lmao
[2026-03-07 01:19:48] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:tom11w| https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat
[2026-03-07 01:19:48] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:tom11w| https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat
[2026-03-07 01:26:00] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| sure , I'm romanian. and yes, I don't have any first-hand experience but anyone over the age of 45 has stories
[2026-03-07 01:26:00] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| sure , I'm romanian. and yes, I don't have any first-hand experience but anyone over the age of 45 has stories
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[2026-03-07 06:49:41] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:M3l0n| r
[2026-03-07 06:49:41] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:M3l0n| r
[2026-03-07 08:04:18] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| Not to revive an old conversation, but this is a really fragile and emotional take. If you’re unable to separate art from artist then fine, I guess that’s something you can work on if you want to
[2026-03-07 08:04:18] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| Not to revive an old conversation, but this is a really fragile and emotional take. If you’re unable to separate art from artist then fine, I guess that’s something you can work on if you want to
[2026-03-07 08:04:19] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| But the point still stands, Rick Rubin produced some legendary songs, and it’s well documented that he played major roles in the production process many times
[2026-03-07 08:04:19] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| But the point still stands, Rick Rubin produced some legendary songs, and it’s well documented that he played major roles in the production process many times
[2026-03-07 08:04:20] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479827030882259138/IMG_0782.png?ex=69ad73d2&is=69ac2252&hm=9b6e821f09cde8a1a2abc9c1e7a7753eaadef659174051a8612fc2705f30a98a&
[2026-03-07 08:04:20] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1479827030882259138/IMG_0782.png?ex=69ad73d2&is=69ac2252&hm=9b6e821f09cde8a1a2abc9c1e7a7753eaadef659174051a8612fc2705f30a98a&
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[2026-03-07 08:32:01] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| It might be a great work of art but you can still choose to ignore it because the artist is a nazi.
[2026-03-07 08:32:01] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| It might be a great work of art but you can still choose to ignore it because the artist is a nazi.
[2026-03-07 08:37:28] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| Choosing to Ignore it doesn’t invalidate it from a music production perspective
[2026-03-07 08:37:28] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| Choosing to Ignore it doesn’t invalidate it from a music production perspective
[2026-03-07 08:38:17] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| Anyway it’s not important there are countless other albums and projects in Rubin’s discography to appreciate
[2026-03-07 08:38:17] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| Anyway it’s not important there are countless other albums and projects in Rubin’s discography to appreciate
[2026-03-07 09:03:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Nazi bar argument. 
[2026-03-07 09:03:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Nazi bar argument. 
[2026-03-07 09:03:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Re Ye, I'd call him an attention-seeking chaos merchant who happens to be somewhat emotionally immature. He latched on to the first person who positively reinforced him, and when ti turned out that they were the far right and everyone else called him a Nazi, he leaned into it in a "well, fine, if you're gonna call me that, I'm gonna be that, howd'ya like *them* apples" sorta way. <clipped message>
[2026-03-07 09:03:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Re Ye, I'd call him an attention-seeking chaos merchant who happens to be somewhat emotionally immature. He latched on to the first person who positively reinforced him, and when ti turned out that they were the far right and everyone else called him a Nazi, he leaned into it in a "well, fine, if you're gonna call me that, I'm gonna be that, howd'ya like *them* apples" sorta way. <clipped message>
[2026-03-07 09:03:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent|  Like, in the way a child will cut off their own nose to spite their face.
[2026-03-07 09:03:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent|  Like, in the way a child will cut off their own nose to spite their face.
[2026-03-07 09:14:36] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| i think one of the main ways that the game could be improved for newcomers is approachability, in the sense that a lot of the menus need to be reworked. when i first started, i went through the settings as one does and set it all up to how i liked it. i then discovered there was a much, much larger amount of settings that i could only really change from console (i.e. camera)
[2026-03-07 09:14:36] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| i think one of the main ways that the game could be improved for newcomers is approachability, in the sense that a lot of the menus need to be reworked. when i first started, i went through the settings as one does and set it all up to how i liked it. i then discovered there was a much, much larger amount of settings that i could only really change from console (i.e. camera)
[2026-03-07 09:14:55] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| completely off-topic but it just popped into my head
[2026-03-07 09:14:56] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| completely off-topic but it just popped into my head
[2026-03-07 09:15:05] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| I try to empathise with radicalised people as they are often a product of their environment, but idk where to admit that a person might just be inherently bad.
[2026-03-07 09:15:05] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| I try to empathise with radicalised people as they are often a product of their environment, but idk where to admit that a person might just be inherently bad.
[2026-03-07 09:15:36] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| oh, you don't know what mipmap trilinear means?
[2026-03-07 09:15:36] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| oh, you don't know what mipmap trilinear means?
[2026-03-07 09:16:00] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| i mean tbf that's in a lot of games
[2026-03-07 09:16:00] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| i mean tbf that's in a lot of games
[2026-03-07 09:16:13] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| anti-aliasing is the worst setting you could have picked LOL!
[2026-03-07 09:16:13] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| anti-aliasing is the worst setting you could have picked LOL!
[2026-03-07 09:16:49] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| i mean like. how on first setup one of the first things the game asks you is if you're connected over dial-up
[2026-03-07 09:16:49] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| i mean like. how on first setup one of the first things the game asks you is if you're connected over dial-up
[2026-03-07 09:17:06] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| imagine coming into the game and seeing moviepack: on
[2026-03-07 09:17:06] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| imagine coming into the game and seeing moviepack: on
[2026-03-07 09:17:07] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| ok go alpha blend your floors you ditherer
[2026-03-07 09:17:07] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| ok go alpha blend your floors you ditherer
[2026-03-07 09:17:09] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| you have no idea what that does
[2026-03-07 09:17:09] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| you have no idea what that does
[2026-03-07 09:17:12] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| The game is just that old
[2026-03-07 09:17:12] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| The game is just that old
[2026-03-07 09:17:23] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| well yeah
[2026-03-07 09:17:23] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| well yeah
[2026-03-07 09:17:31] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But yeah even having a tip telling people hey theres console commands
[2026-03-07 09:17:31] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But yeah even having a tip telling people hey theres console commands
[2026-03-07 09:17:39] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| And having a help for them
[2026-03-07 09:17:39] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| And having a help for them
[2026-03-07 09:17:42] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| i think it needs to be modernised for it to be more approachable, which in turn makes it far easier for newcomers
[2026-03-07 09:17:42] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| i think it needs to be modernised for it to be more approachable, which in turn makes it far easier for newcomers
[2026-03-07 09:17:51] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| And in built docs for console commands
[2026-03-07 09:17:51] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| And in built docs for console commands
[2026-03-07 09:17:53] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| there's also no easy way to see all console commands afaik
[2026-03-07 09:17:53] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| there's also no easy way to see all console commands afaik
[2026-03-07 09:17:55] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| yes
[2026-03-07 09:17:55] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| yes
[2026-03-07 09:18:11] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Btw how do you move the custom camera forwards?
[2026-03-07 09:18:11] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Btw how do you move the custom camera forwards?
[2026-03-07 09:18:23] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| I want it to be looking down a bit but its too far away
[2026-03-07 09:18:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| I want it to be looking down a bit but its too far away
[2026-03-07 09:18:31] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Camera back might work but eh
[2026-03-07 09:18:31] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Camera back might work but eh
[2026-03-07 09:20:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @frejzer these are valid ideas for 0.5 y'know. If you fork the 0.5-suggestions project and add `taco.md` with your suggestions in it, I'll merge it
[2026-03-07 09:20:09] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| just camera_custom_back
[2026-03-07 09:20:09] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Oof
[2026-03-07 09:20:09] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Okay
[2026-03-07 09:20:09] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| will do once i'm home
[2026-03-07 09:20:09] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| camera_custom_back_fromspeed
[2026-03-07 09:20:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @frejzer these are valid ideas for 0.5 y'know. If you fork the 0.5-suggestions project and add `taco.md` with your suggestions in it, I'll merge it
[2026-03-07 09:20:45] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| oh oh, before i forget. i assume it's on gitlab?
[2026-03-07 09:21:00] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| just camera_custom_back
[2026-03-07 09:21:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Oof
[2026-03-07 09:21:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Okay
[2026-03-07 09:21:00] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| will do once i'm home
[2026-03-07 09:21:00] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| camera_custom_back_fromspeed
[2026-03-07 09:21:00] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| oh oh, before i forget. i assume it's on gitlab?
[2026-03-07 09:21:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya https://gitlab.com/armagetronad/0-5-suggestions
[2026-03-07 09:21:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya https://gitlab.com/armagetronad/0-5-suggestions
[2026-03-07 09:21:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @dinosareyummy you too
[2026-03-07 09:21:17] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:Taco| perfect ty
[2026-03-07 09:21:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @dinosareyummy you too
[2026-03-07 09:21:19] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Taco| perfect ty
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[2026-03-07 16:53:00] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Hey, you posted Ye as support of your argument. If someone has bad enough judgement to be a Nazi, I can't say I trust their recommendation of record producers. I decided to look up Rubin's production credits on Wikipedia and, to no surprise, I don't like any of those albums except for the ones from Slayer, but Slayer was destined for stardom with our without Rubin. I only liked t <clipped message>
[2026-03-07 16:53:00] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| he first couple RHCP albums and think Blood Sugar Sex Magic is fucking terrible. Paul's Boutique is the only good Beastie Boys album (produced by the Dust Brothers). Rubin is Influential? Sure I guess, but I don't like any of his work, and he's definitely overrated BY A LOT.
[2026-03-07 16:53:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Hey, you posted Ye as support of your argument. If someone has bad enough judgement to be a Nazi, I can't say I trust their recommendation of record producers. I decided to look up Rubin's production credits on Wikipedia and, to no surprise, I don't like any of those albums except for the ones from Slayer, but Slayer was destined for stardom with our without Rubin. I only liked t <clipped message>
[2026-03-07 16:53:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| he first couple RHCP albums and think Blood Sugar Sex Magic is fucking terrible. Paul's Boutique is the only good Beastie Boys album (produced by the Dust Brothers). Rubin is Influential? Sure I guess, but I don't like any of his work, and he's definitely overrated BY A LOT.
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[2026-03-07 17:35:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| And I'm not sure how to define influential. I'm inclined to think "pivitol, defining album in a genre" and it doesn't look like Rubin can lay claim to any of them.
[2026-03-07 17:35:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| And I'm not sure how to define influential. I'm inclined to think "pivitol, defining album in a genre" and it doesn't look like Rubin can lay claim to any of them.
[2026-03-07 17:53:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Oh, and just to be clear, I don't really care about Rubin at all. I didn't know anything about him until I read the book, and I think the book is terrible. Not just because it's seemingly full of trite nonsense, it also seems to, deliberately, mimic the tone of Taoist literature I've read, and something about that really rubs me the wrong way. It's feels like it's taking an autho <clipped message>
[2026-03-07 17:53:44] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Oh, and just to be clear, I don't really care about Rubin at all. I didn't know anything about him until I read the book, and I think the book is terrible. Not just because it's seemingly full of trite nonsense, it also seems to, deliberately, mimic the tone of Taoist literature I've read, and something about that really rubs me the wrong way. It's feels like it's taking an autho <clipped message>
[2026-03-07 17:53:44] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ritative tone to preach truths without really understanding or capturing the elegance and beauty of those truths.
[2026-03-07 17:53:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ritative tone to preach truths without really understanding or capturing the elegance and beauty of those truths.
[2026-03-07 18:35:33] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:หš.โœฆRx.Luigiโœฆ.หš| almost ready to release my linux update manager it updates everything by everything i mean everything all the way to vs code extensions
[2026-03-07 18:35:33] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:หš.โœฆRx.Luigiโœฆ.หš| almost ready to release my linux update manager it updates everything by everything i mean everything all the way to vs code extensions
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[2026-03-07 22:47:32] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:hambonehfj| How does it work gng
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[2026-03-08 08:26:20] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:.hedgehogg.| hi
[2026-03-08 08:26:21] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:.hedgehogg.| hi
[2026-03-08 09:53:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| sure, so you dont like align with him as a person and you have never found him helpful. you also dont like much of the music he has worked on. im not going to argue against that - but it doesnt mean the music is *bad*. 
[2026-03-08 09:53:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| sure, so you dont like align with him as a person and you have never found him helpful. you also dont like much of the music he has worked on. im not going to argue against that - but it doesnt mean the music is *bad*. 
[2026-03-08 09:53:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| ive never read his book, but it seems to be extremely highly rated overall. your opinion on it isnt really as important as you seem to think it is - he has inspired and influenced potentially millions of people whether you enjoyed the book or hated it.
[2026-03-08 09:53:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| ive never read his book, but it seems to be extremely highly rated overall. your opinion on it isnt really as important as you seem to think it is - he has inspired and influenced potentially millions of people whether you enjoyed the book or hated it.
[2026-03-08 09:53:07] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| note that this conversation originated by someone asking if he was a fraud. i was originally trying to point out that his work on many albums is notable and shouldnt be overlooked - and it seems like you somewhat agree by saying he is influential. i dont really care if you like him or not. to be honest, i dont really care for him much either, i guess it just rubs me the wrong way <clipped message>
[2026-03-08 09:53:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| note that this conversation originated by someone asking if he was a fraud. i was originally trying to point out that his work on many albums is notable and shouldnt be overlooked - and it seems like you somewhat agree by saying he is influential. i dont really care if you like him or not. to be honest, i dont really care for him much either, i guess it just rubs me the wrong way <clipped message>
[2026-03-08 09:53:09] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis|  when random people are so quick to pass judgement and criticism on other peoples work just because they dont like them or feel they dont deserve success. since you took the opportunity to make this more of a personal attack on rick rubin than anything else, i should say im hardly a fan of him or anything, but i think its nice to give credit to someone who has inspired plenty of  <clipped message>
[2026-03-08 09:53:09] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis|  when random people are so quick to pass judgement and criticism on other peoples work just because they dont like them or feel they dont deserve success. since you took the opportunity to make this more of a personal attack on rick rubin than anything else, i should say im hardly a fan of him or anything, but i think its nice to give credit to someone who has inspired plenty of  <clipped message>
[2026-03-08 09:53:10] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| people to make music whether i like their work personally or not. you seem very eager to call all of his stuff terrible and overrated and i think it doesnt achieve much
[2026-03-08 09:53:10] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| people to make music whether i like their work personally or not. you seem very eager to call all of his stuff terrible and overrated and i think it doesnt achieve much
[2026-03-08 10:11:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| Hello. How are you? ๐Ÿ˜Œ
[2026-03-08 10:11:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| Hello. How are you? ๐Ÿ˜Œ
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[2026-03-08 11:34:50] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:fripmcfitz| this seems definitely to me to be a case of you not needing the kind of service rick rubin provides and so you think it's a sham. some people benefit from the kind of advice you do not benefit from. does that mean the people giving that advice aren't worthy of recognition? this reads to me like if a mentally healthy person went to therapy for depression, didn't see any change, an <clipped message>
[2026-03-08 11:34:50] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:fripmcfitz| this seems definitely to me to be a case of you not needing the kind of service rick rubin provides and so you think it's a sham. some people benefit from the kind of advice you do not benefit from. does that mean the people giving that advice aren't worthy of recognition? this reads to me like if a mentally healthy person went to therapy for depression, didn't see any change, an <clipped message>
[2026-03-08 11:34:51] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:fripmcfitz| d went "yep, therapy is definitely pointless"
[2026-03-08 11:34:51] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:fripmcfitz| d went "yep, therapy is definitely pointless"
[2026-03-08 12:22:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| My grandparents are also from Romania and have told me a few horror stories, but they also tell us things like, there was no crime, there were no gay people (positive for them I guess ๐Ÿ˜…). Which, obviously isn’t true lol. I think now they look back on it with rose tinted glasses even though they had to do a hunger strike in Germany to get me dad out from Romania
[2026-03-08 12:23:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| My grandparents are also from Romania and have told me a few horror stories, but they also tell us things like, there was no crime, there were no gay people (positive for them I guess ๐Ÿ˜…). Which, obviously isn’t true lol. I think now they look back on it with rose tinted glasses even though they had to do a hunger strike in Germany to get me dad out from Romania
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[2026-03-08 22:46:35] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:soulofset| Y'all playin Fort with UPPIES with me? ;o
[2026-03-08 22:46:35] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:soulofset| Y'all playin Fort with UPPIES with me? ;o
[2026-03-08 22:46:36] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:soulofset| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1480396353917161715/image.png?ex=69af860b&is=69ae348b&hm=52037887cfb14a43ecc88675b9398c8f14455481ac84ac9817c4d4f67722fd16&
[2026-03-08 22:46:36] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:soulofset| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1480396353917161715/image.png?ex=69af860b&is=69ae348b&hm=52037887cfb14a43ecc88675b9398c8f14455481ac84ac9817c4d4f67722fd16&
[2026-03-08 23:26:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I mean, likewise your opinion doesn't mean shit either. The guy started out his career by staging a fake fight for publicity. That's not person who should be looked up to and it's weird you're simping on him. Seems like the entirely of his career is to simply attach himself to what's already popular. Great I guess? He's no Kevin Parker, that's for sure.
[2026-03-08 23:26:53] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I mean, likewise your opinion doesn't mean shit either. The guy started out his career by staging a fake fight for publicity. That's not person who should be looked up to and it's weird you're simping on him. Seems like the entirely of his career is to simply attach himself to what's already popular. Great I guess? He's no Kevin Parker, that's for sure.
[2026-03-08 23:28:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Sure, but you can say the same thing about psychics and fortune tellers. Maybe they guessed right? So what? Looking over Rubin's production credits I see A LOT of garbage.
[2026-03-08 23:28:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Sure, but you can say the same thing about psychics and fortune tellers. Maybe they guessed right? So what? Looking over Rubin's production credits I see A LOT of garbage.


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