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[2026-03-11 05:05:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Don't be so old and jaded Nelg
[2026-03-11 05:05:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Don't be so old and jaded Nelg
[2026-03-11 05:05:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's the fun of it that counts
[2026-03-11 05:05:38] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's the fun of it that counts
[2026-03-11 05:06:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| speaking of old laptop, I need to recover the screen from $ElderlyExWebServer and convert it into something useful
[2026-03-11 05:06:25] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| speaking of old laptop, I need to recover the screen from $ElderlyExWebServer and convert it into something useful
[2026-03-11 05:06:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| big awld dell from 2001 so it has an 18" display
[2026-03-11 05:06:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| big awld dell from 2001 so it has an 18" display
[2026-03-11 07:13:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| which side are you?
[2026-03-11 07:13:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| which side are you?
[2026-03-11 07:13:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1481248817423843470/HDGr7X-aQAAGPOe.png?ex=69b29ff6&is=69b14e76&hm=46249f5cae3a6e0c3f47aaee958a999345af44026ec24bcc34a98ef39ca5c225&
[2026-03-11 07:13:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1481248817423843470/HDGr7X-aQAAGPOe.png?ex=69b29ff6&is=69b14e76&hm=46249f5cae3a6e0c3f47aaee958a999345af44026ec24bcc34a98ef39ca5c225&
[2026-03-11 07:14:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| who drew the original
[2026-03-11 07:14:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| who drew the original
[2026-03-11 07:37:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| Not sure. Cursory searches point me towards "Gene Wolfe" but I don't know that for certain
[2026-03-11 07:37:05] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| Not sure. Cursory searches point me towards "Gene Wolfe" but I don't know that for certain
[2026-03-11 07:52:30] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:trylixc| christ almighty
[2026-03-11 07:52:30] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:trylixc| christ almighty
[2026-03-11 07:52:55] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:trylixc| what the fuck am i looking at
[2026-03-11 07:52:55] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:trylixc| what the fuck am i looking at
[2026-03-11 07:53:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is your brain on genai
[2026-03-11 07:53:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is your brain on genai
[2026-03-11 08:05:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ??
[2026-03-11 08:05:27] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| ??
[2026-03-11 08:05:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is kinda basic western vs eastern eschatology
[2026-03-11 08:05:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is kinda basic western vs eastern eschatology
[2026-03-11 08:06:14] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| drawing on values of eastern buddhism vs western materialism
[2026-03-11 08:06:14] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| drawing on values of eastern buddhism vs western materialism
[2026-03-11 08:06:21] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Haha nice try, i dont belong to any tribe
[2026-03-11 08:06:21] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Haha nice try, i dont belong to any tribe
[2026-03-11 08:06:46] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| lmao that's hilarious
[2026-03-11 08:06:46] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| lmao that's hilarious
[2026-03-11 08:07:04] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| one of these days ill post something and ill get a "cool" from deli instead of a snide comment
[2026-03-11 08:07:04] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| one of these days ill post something and ill get a "cool" from deli instead of a snide comment
[2026-03-11 08:07:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| if you come up with it all on your ownsome ya
[2026-03-11 08:07:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| if you come up with it all on your ownsome ya
[2026-03-11 08:08:00] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| your language is inherited
[2026-03-11 08:08:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| your language is inherited
[2026-03-11 08:08:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the very substance of your thoughts are not even your own
[2026-03-11 08:08:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the very substance of your thoughts are not even your own
[2026-03-11 08:08:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| but that... no. That looks for all the world like the definition of "I'm using big words and complex anachronisms. I must be very clever."
[2026-03-11 08:08:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| but that... no. That looks for all the world like the definition of "I'm using big words and complex anachronisms. I must be very clever."
[2026-03-11 08:13:14] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| too simple for deli -> obvious drivel
[2026-03-11 08:13:14] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| too simple for deli -> obvious drivel
[2026-03-11 08:13:15] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| too complex for deli -> esoteric nonsense
[2026-03-11 08:13:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| too complex for deli -> esoteric nonsense
[2026-03-11 08:13:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| must be a nice world where you are right about everything always
[2026-03-11 08:13:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| must be a nice world where you are right about everything always
[2026-03-11 08:13:38] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| There is a difference between directing people on the field and being on the field itself
[2026-03-11 08:13:38] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| There is a difference between directing people on the field and being on the field itself
[2026-03-11 08:13:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not sure i follow this analogy
[2026-03-11 08:13:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| not sure i follow this analogy
[2026-03-11 08:14:13] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Ai to me is more of a directing skill
[2026-03-11 08:14:13] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Ai to me is more of a directing skill
[2026-03-11 08:14:41] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Rather than a “skill” skill
[2026-03-11 08:14:41] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Rather than a “skill” skill
[2026-03-11 08:14:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| why are we talking about AI
[2026-03-11 08:14:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| why are we talking about AI
[2026-03-11 08:15:08] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Because thats what deli is implying is it not?
[2026-03-11 08:15:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Because thats what deli is implying is it not?
[2026-03-11 08:15:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I mean that picture is very obviously not AI
[2026-03-11 08:15:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I mean that picture is very obviously not AI
[2026-03-11 08:15:33] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Or has all the sleepless nights and the hours working on bullshit finally sent me off the deep end
[2026-03-11 08:15:33] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Or has all the sleepless nights and the hours working on bullshit finally sent me off the deep end
[2026-03-11 08:15:52] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| maybe he impied that though tbh reading back im lost too lol
[2026-03-11 08:15:52] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| maybe he impied that though tbh reading back im lost too lol
[2026-03-11 08:16:08] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| You better lmao
[2026-03-11 08:16:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| You better lmao
[2026-03-11 08:22:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Huh. Maybe it isn't. Although the results I'm seeing for it are mostly incoherent ramblings that appear to be those fo someone who is *very* unwell, or a rando russian dude who appears to think he has the answers to life, the universe, and everything
[2026-03-11 08:22:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Huh. Maybe it isn't. Although the results I'm seeing for it are mostly incoherent ramblings that appear to be those fo someone who is *very* unwell, or a rando russian dude who appears to think he has the answers to life, the universe, and everything
[2026-03-11 08:22:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and in fairness, the oldest copy I can find is from 2021 so
[2026-03-11 08:22:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and in fairness, the oldest copy I can find is from 2021 so
[2026-03-11 08:23:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its really not incoherent
[2026-03-11 08:23:16] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| its really not incoherent
[2026-03-11 08:23:48] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you can simplify it by looking at the x axis as a form of "materialistic divinity" and the y axis as a "faithful divinity"
[2026-03-11 08:23:48] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you can simplify it by looking at the x axis as a form of "materialistic divinity" and the y axis as a "faithful divinity"
[2026-03-11 08:23:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ...
[2026-03-11 08:23:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ...
[2026-03-11 08:24:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| miniaturization is an apt description of the ideals of computing
[2026-03-11 08:24:02] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| miniaturization is an apt description of the ideals of computing
[2026-03-11 08:24:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is all coming from a 1980's fantasy novel
[2026-03-11 08:24:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| this is all coming from a 1980's fantasy novel
[2026-03-11 08:24:19] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| make your mind up as to the source
[2026-03-11 08:24:19] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| make your mind up as to the source
[2026-03-11 08:24:20] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Ah great
[2026-03-11 08:24:20] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Ah great
[2026-03-11 08:24:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and broadly speculative at that
[2026-03-11 08:24:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and broadly speculative at that
[2026-03-11 08:24:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but i dont find it relevant either way
[2026-03-11 08:24:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but i dont find it relevant either way
[2026-03-11 08:24:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the ramblings, I mean
[2026-03-11 08:24:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the ramblings, I mean
[2026-03-11 08:24:44] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| One of my friends posted an image thats basically the alchemical trinity
[2026-03-11 08:24:44] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| One of my friends posted an image thats basically the alchemical trinity
[2026-03-11 08:24:53] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| But replaced with modern brainrot
[2026-03-11 08:24:53] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| But replaced with modern brainrot
[2026-03-11 08:24:56] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Fun times that was
[2026-03-11 08:24:57] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Fun times that was
[2026-03-11 08:25:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i think its super relevant for the modern geopolitical landscape
[2026-03-11 08:25:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| i think its super relevant for the modern geopolitical landscape
[2026-03-11 08:25:35] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| every nation can be placed on this index of renunciation-technocracy
[2026-03-11 08:25:35] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| every nation can be placed on this index of renunciation-technocracy
[2026-03-11 08:26:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the only nation i can think of that isnt intuitive in this placement would be something like Israel which is both heavily theocratic yet also somewhat technocratic
[2026-03-11 08:26:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the only nation i can think of that isnt intuitive in this placement would be something like Israel which is both heavily theocratic yet also somewhat technocratic
[2026-03-11 08:28:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's been a very long time since I read any of Book of the New Sun, but what I remember is pretty theocratic in a kinda offset way.
[2026-03-11 08:28:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's been a very long time since I read any of Book of the New Sun, but what I remember is pretty theocratic in a kinda offset way.
[2026-03-11 13:53:26] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| they would disagree with you on this
[2026-03-11 13:53:26] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| they would disagree with you on this
[2026-03-11 13:53:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| "the only democary in the middle east " .. however iran is heavily theocratic
[2026-03-11 13:53:47] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| "the only democary in the middle east " .. however iran is heavily theocratic
[2026-03-11 13:56:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you live in USA
[2026-03-11 13:56:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you live in USA
[2026-03-11 14:05:19] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| "they" would disagree meaning they said it themselves many times
[2026-03-11 14:05:20] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| "they" would disagree meaning they said it themselves many times
[2026-03-11 14:22:50] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| Fallacy much?
[2026-03-11 14:22:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| Fallacy much?
[2026-03-11 14:31:02] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:trylixc| it’s poorly laid out, unclearly labelled and tries to fit way too much info onto one graph so it doesn’t really matter wether the subject matter is simple or not because the way it’s presented makes very little sense to someone who doesn’t already understand what it’s talking about
[2026-03-11 14:31:07] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:trylixc| it’s poorly laid out, unclearly labelled and tries to fit way too much info onto one graph so it doesn’t really matter wether the subject matter is simple or not because the way it’s presented makes very little sense to someone who doesn’t already understand what it’s talking about
[2026-03-11 14:34:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I haven’t read any of Wolfes works and it was fairly intuitive to me
[2026-03-11 14:34:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| I haven’t read any of Wolfes works and it was fairly intuitive to me
[2026-03-11 14:34:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| For sure there is domain specific info re eschatology
[2026-03-11 14:34:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| For sure there is domain specific info re eschatology
[2026-03-11 14:35:11] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but casting this out as nonsensical, in my opinion, is a mistake
[2026-03-11 14:35:11] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but casting this out as nonsensical, in my opinion, is a mistake
[2026-03-11 14:37:55] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| It is quite typical of the machinist types to snide at works that border on the esoteric. I would underline again that science is ultimately a discipline of philosophy, and as such this subset which broadly is defined by empirical materialism lack the tools to interface with problems outside of its domain
[2026-03-11 14:37:55] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| It is quite typical of the machinist types to snide at works that border on the esoteric. I would underline again that science is ultimately a discipline of philosophy, and as such this subset which broadly is defined by empirical materialism lack the tools to interface with problems outside of its domain
[2026-03-11 15:06:39] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| Are you getting more religous or something syn ?
[2026-03-11 15:06:39] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| Are you getting more religous or something syn ?
[2026-03-11 15:07:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| or purely philosophical
[2026-03-11 15:07:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| or purely philosophical
[2026-03-11 15:07:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| no. organised religion is supposed to be left in the past
[2026-03-11 15:07:27] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| no. organised religion is supposed to be left in the past
[2026-03-11 15:07:35] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is my entire rant re the enlightenment
[2026-03-11 15:07:35] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| this is my entire rant re the enlightenment
[2026-03-11 15:07:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we’re still going through it
[2026-03-11 15:07:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| we’re still going through it
[2026-03-11 15:08:04] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but yes purely philosophical i’m a panpsychist my version of god is not religious in nature
[2026-03-11 15:08:04] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| but yes purely philosophical i’m a panpsychist my version of god is not religious in nature
[2026-03-11 15:10:13] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| so that part about nirvana / abstract divinity , i would assume you take it as some sort of fundamental consciousness then right ?
[2026-03-11 15:10:13] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| so that part about nirvana / abstract divinity , i would assume you take it as some sort of fundamental consciousness then right ?
[2026-03-11 15:10:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| sure, I don’t hate that
[2026-03-11 15:10:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| sure, I don’t hate that
[2026-03-11 15:10:48] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| and the ressurectional explosion part would be somewhat of a change in your reality or perspective ?
[2026-03-11 15:10:48] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| and the ressurectional explosion part would be somewhat of a change in your reality or perspective ?
[2026-03-11 15:11:01] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a new self in some respects yep
[2026-03-11 15:11:01] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| a new self in some respects yep
[2026-03-11 15:11:15] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| it aligns with religon well but i can see it align with your views
[2026-03-11 15:11:15] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| it aligns with religon well but i can see it align with your views
[2026-03-11 15:11:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| more .... spiritual . not "organized religion" as you woud put it
[2026-03-11 15:11:41] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| more .... spiritual . not "organized religion" as you woud put it
[2026-03-11 15:12:18] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| Pretty cool diagram though. I did need to google so many of the words lol
[2026-03-11 15:12:18] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| Pretty cool diagram though. I did need to google so many of the words lol
[2026-03-11 15:12:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| religion is a tool and from it we have created value
[2026-03-11 15:12:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| religion is a tool and from it we have created value
[2026-03-11 15:12:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the lack of patches and proper versioning make it not suitable for a modern information interface
[2026-03-11 15:12:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| the lack of patches and proper versioning make it not suitable for a modern information interface
[2026-03-11 15:13:04] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| moral value is very well aligned with religion even modern religion today
[2026-03-11 15:13:04] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| moral value is very well aligned with religion even modern religion today
[2026-03-11 15:13:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| in the spectrum of tools though compared to what we have now it’s just kinda mid
[2026-03-11 15:13:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| in the spectrum of tools though compared to what we have now it’s just kinda mid
[2026-03-11 15:13:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you are interrupted in your creative processes by mythical operations
[2026-03-11 15:13:58] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| you are interrupted in your creative processes by mythical operations
[2026-03-11 15:16:51] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| history ultimately forges the culture we are born into though and that’s why it’s easy for me to say all of this
[2026-03-11 15:16:51] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| history ultimately forges the culture we are born into though and that’s why it’s easy for me to say all of this
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[2026-03-11 17:40:37] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| 🤨
[2026-03-11 17:40:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| 🤨
[2026-03-11 17:49:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:syn_acc| :Shrug:
[2026-03-11 17:49:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:syn_acc| :Shrug:
[2026-03-11 19:40:49] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:submari| @wwnelg are you ever gonna add a def and sweep bots to fort but its all bots?
[2026-03-11 19:40:49] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:submari| @wwnelg are you ever gonna add a def and sweep bots to fort but its all bots?
[2026-03-11 23:12:18] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| eventually
[2026-03-11 23:12:18] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| eventually

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