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[2021-05-22 02:43:02] <Lucifer_arma> I have a preference for y'all solving this one.  :)  Z-Man guru3_
[2021-05-22 02:43:13] <Lucifer_arma> and yeah, if we want to talk to players, we have to go to Discord, because that's where they are
[2021-05-22 02:43:27] <Lucifer_arma> but if they want to talk to us, they have to come to us, so it's fair ;)
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[2021-05-22 04:39:15] <guru3_> are there any technical considerations between oftc and libera?
[2021-05-22 04:44:33] <guru3_> https://libera.chat/bylaws and https://www.oftc.net/constitution/ for comparing the network organisation
[2021-05-22 04:44:47] <guru3_> or maybe management's a better turn of phrase
[2021-05-22 04:45:55] <guru3_> oftc is a sister organisation of debian apparently, I didn't know that
[2021-05-22 04:46:20] <guru3_> and home to their main irc, which does give my some confidence in oftc being around for a long while yet
[2021-05-22 04:53:57] <guru3_> libera's bylaws don't appear to be especially well setup to stop the same thing from happening to it that's happened to freenode - who currently holds libera's DNS?
[2021-05-22 04:56:26] <Z-Man> libera's NickServ supports GROUP (registering alternative nicknames), oftc's does not. That's all the technical differences I encountered, definitely not a dealbreaker.
[2021-05-22 04:57:31] <Z-Man> I think everything libera is owned by that swedish not-for-profit they set up.
[2021-05-22 05:00:33] <guru3_> that would make sense, but no details on how that NPO is setup
[2021-05-22 05:02:33] <guru3_> it's pretty clear how OFTC's organisation goes up the chain to SPI Inc
[2021-05-22 05:03:54] <guru3_> which is a us-based NPO it seems, with open membership
[2021-05-22 05:06:19] <guru3_> I suppose my main complaint with libera is that at the moment the whole freenode/them situation seems a sketchy and I'm not sure about staying with either network
[2021-05-22 05:06:31] <Z-Man> That's all too complicated for me. I'd go with OFTC because they've been around longer and therefore likely will be around longer.
[2021-05-22 05:07:18] <guru3_> I was also thinking along those lines
[2021-05-22 05:11:02] <Z-Man> Especially since it's an easy to revert decision. No use in spending more time with research than it would take later to switch.
[2021-05-22 05:11:24] <guru3> Z-Man: I've put you on the channel access list with chanserv
[2021-05-22 05:11:40] <Z-Man> yay!
[2021-05-22 05:12:20] * guru3 claps in applause
[2021-05-22 05:12:49] <guru3> using /me now feels nostalgic, considering pretty much all other platforms don't do it
[2021-05-22 06:08:53] <Z-Man> BREAKING NEWS in my bank story. They backpedalled, for now, thanks to a decision of the Bundesgerichtshof (I guess our second highest court?) that says banks cannot simply change contracts and assume no communication from the customer means dissent.
[2021-05-22 06:10:08] <Z-Man>  "We apologize for any inconveniences this -for us unexpected- decision caused you.", they say. Yeah. Because it was the vertict that is causing inconveniences, not the, I repeat, 900% price hike. Their collective noun truly is "wunch".
[2021-05-22 06:14:21] <Z-Man> Why does everything have to go down the drain all at once? It'll just get clogged!
[2021-05-22 06:16:28] <Z-Man> s/dissent/consent three lines up. Gee.
[2021-05-22 06:17:58] <Z-Man> Anyway, I'm still switching banks, obviously, but I'm glad I'm no longer in much of a hurry getting my stuff transferred.
[2021-05-22 06:49:12] <Z-Man> (I'm blowing the price hike out of proportion, obv. It's from 1 to 10 Euro/Month.)
[2021-05-22 07:47:08] <Z-Man> I should probably wait for the first money to arrive at the new bank before I telling everyone....
[2021-05-22 07:47:25] <Z-Man> telling/tell
[2021-05-22 07:56:32] <Z-Man> Discord supports it. I guess Teams and Slack are too professional and serious.
[2021-05-22 10:24:51] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.9-armagetronad-work] r1752 Move setting of caption to before screen initialization...
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