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It's much harder to take a bit of reality and tell a lie from it that still sounds like it might me true. [16:10:27] <Z-Man> Unless you're Trump and just don't care how believable whatever you say is. [22:07:20] *** Joins: Z-Man- (~Z-Man@p5B326216.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [22:07:20] *** Quits: Z-Man (~Z-Man@p4FE3EC9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Killed (verne.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) [22:07:20] *** Z-Man- is now known as Z-Man [23:27:00] <Lucifer_arma> actually, the first rule of lying is to stick to the truth [23:27:25] <Lucifer_arma> see, the second rule of lying is to believe it when you say it, and it's much easier to do that when there's a fair amount of verifiable truth in what you say [23:28:32] <Lucifer_arma> it's also easier to keep the story cohesive the more truth is in it [23:29:26] <Lucifer_arma> now, on a different note, I have a lot of different ways I can take this UI, and I'm having difficulty distinguishing between what can be done vs what should be done [23:30:15] <Lucifer_arma> example: I have a list of sound effects for a user to choose to use for their alarm. If they choose more than one to use, do I always play them randomly? Do I shuffle them and play them (in which case there are no repeats until the entire list is played)? [23:30:26] <Lucifer_arma> do I offer a way for the user to sort them into a particular order to be played? [23:30:59] <Lucifer_arma> ultimately, I want to have an "expert" mode where a user could potentially chain various actions in particular orders, but right now I want something that works reasonably well and can be built for android [23:31:36] <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to go with shuffle for now, because that's the quickest and easiest thing to do [23:31:53] <Lucifer_arma> next up: how do I present to the user that this is, in fact, what will be happening?View entire month