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[02:19:48] <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: by a hair, considering how active this channel is
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[11:11:51] <ct|kyle> very active with joins and parts :)
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[17:08:19] <Lucifer_arma> ct|kyle: and timeouts
[17:08:41] <Lucifer_arma> I'm so proud.  :)  My youngest has written his first game.  It's a text adventure game.  Not very sophisticated, but it's a game that works :)
[17:16:44] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: Nice
[17:38:11] <Lucifer_arma> now he's writing his first parser
[17:38:30] <Lucifer_arma> file parser, that is
[17:42:34] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: how old?
[17:43:19] <Lucifer_arma> 14
[17:43:30] <Lucifer_arma> he'll be 15 next month (well, august)
[17:44:04] <Lucifer_arma> both of my boys are trailing me in programming, starting in their teens, but at least they're starting :)
[17:44:39] <Lucifer_arma> (I'd written my first game at 10, and first text adventure at 11 or 12)
[17:46:27] <Lucifer_arma> they're also lucky enough to have python already existing, heh.  I had to work with commodore basic
[17:47:16] <ct|kyle> I think I started with HTML (if that counts) when i was 12 and tried some javascrpt in there
[17:47:44] <ct|kyle> by 14 I was wrtting pascal
[17:48:55] <Lucifer_arma> html doesn't count as a programming language :)
[17:50:16] <ct|kyle> I did some javascript stealing back then too
[17:50:45] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I didn't write anything you could call "designed and written by me" until that first text adventure game
[17:51:13] <Lucifer_arma> you have to remember "age appropriate" programming whenever I talk about starting at a young age
[17:52:43] <Armanelgtron> I see mention of kolourpaint!
[17:53:03] <ct|kyle> High school is when I programmed a lot, in lots of languages
[17:53:59] <Lucifer_arma> I started C while still in middle school, but didn't really learn how to use loops effectively until high school
[17:54:20] <Lucifer_arma> that and functions in algebra (also in high school) made C work for me
[17:54:36] <ct|kyle> PLD, basic stamp, C, C++, java, pascal, php, actionscript, autoit and probbaoly some others
[17:54:53] <Lucifer_arma> then I learned Pascal, and didn't branch out until ~2001, when I picked up vbscript, C++, and some perl
[17:54:59] <ct|kyle> oh ya, TI basic
[17:55:59] <Lucifer_arma> I had, I think it was a TI-99, in my bedroom for awhile
[17:56:10] <ct|kyle> and i had this flow chart based programming, was used to maek a marble sorter
[17:56:30] <ct|kyle> Ti-83+ SE
[17:56:38] <Lucifer_arma> I loved flowchart-based programming, until I hated it
[17:56:54] <Lucifer_arma> no wait, it was a Timex-Sinclair 1000.  Little 8-bit machine with 2K RAM
[17:57:14] <Lucifer_arma> we learned top-down design in my pascal class, and I hated it from the beginning
[17:57:57] <Lucifer_arma> monochrome display
[17:57:58] <ct|kyle> All my high school was basically self taught, so i really did not learn concepts that well, I just programmed
[17:58:14] <Lucifer_arma> but the BASIC dialect I had was essentially the same as the commodore BASIC
[17:59:51] <ct|kyle> I programmed the shit out of TI basic though
[18:00:09] <ct|kyle> made a tic tac toe based game
[18:00:31] <ct|kyle> multi player (I may have even made a waek AI for it)
[18:03:55] <Lucifer_arma> I took a semester-long BASIC class my sophomore year, and a year-long pascal class my junior year
[18:04:16] <Lucifer_arma> which were instrumental in turning me into a programmer who could actually write really useful things :)
[18:04:55] <Lucifer_arma> then, after high school, I took 7 years off from computers, where I only played civ 2 on the Amiga for a short time
[18:05:09] <Lucifer_arma> and later wrote a budget program on the C64 because my sister gave me her old one
[18:05:39] <Lucifer_arma> I started up again in early 2001 learning C++ with Borland C++ Builder, and moved to vbscript for web pages
[18:05:57] <Lucifer_arma> because for about six months, I actually used Windows full-time.  :/
[18:09:24] <Lucifer_arma> luckily I wised up and switched to Linux a few months before the 9/11 attacks.
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[19:41:24] <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: all before I really started programming :P
[19:46:52] <ct|kyle> 6 years of college, (was taking min credit hours / semester). then I got a job and It was different, but it was more because the others at my work did not really know how to program
[19:47:43] <ct|kyle> now 3.5 years later, same company, Back to were I was comming out of college, however I am doing more advanced stuff
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