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[03:21:06] <Armanelgtron> @physkets You could maybe package it as a seperate package, 0.4 being armagetronad-experimental (and the version number could be something like the version and the revision (such as 0.4r1622)... 0.3 isn't maintained so you probably should not bother with that version
[04:59:15] <physkets> Armanelgtron: ah, okay... in that case, I'll stick to 0.2.8 for the distro, and package the trunk version for the AUR
[05:00:20] <physkets> the AUR is an unofficial collection of packages that Arch-based distros can use to simplify a build & install
[05:33:19] <Lucifer_arma> physkets: you should use the 0.4 branch for the experimental one, because the trunk is way behind
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[05:54:11] <physkets> Lucifer_arma: oh, I thought trunk meant 0.4, my bad... that is what I meant
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[09:17:02] <TheNate> hello, can someone help me with my server?
[12:37:43] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: shit.  I just realized I've been working with a skin that requires mediawiki 1.29.  We're stil on 1.27, right?
[13:57:46] <Lucifer_arma> ok, there's no quick and easy way to adapt ArmaUnified to mediawiki after whatever version it was originally developed for
[13:58:23] <Lucifer_arma> TheNate: I'll bite, what problem are you having with your server?
[13:58:44] <Lucifer_arma> also, generally, it's best to just state the problem.  Don't ask for help, tell us what you need more specifically.
[13:59:37] <Lucifer_arma> why am I screwing around with the Vector skin when we started from MonoBook last time, anyway?
[15:13:56] <TheNate> my problem is the delay when logging
[15:15:01] <Lucifer_arma> delay when logging?
[15:15:41] <TheNate> if i type /login on server it needs sometimes 3 rounds
[15:21:49] <TheNate> uk this problem?
[15:22:57] <Lucifer_arma> ah, you mean logging in, heh.  logging is keeping logs.  :)
[15:23:06] <Lucifer_arma> what authority are you using?
[15:24:10] <TheNate> ah ok ;) i try to ligin with the forums
[15:24:16] <TheNate> login*
[15:26:00] <TheNate> if someone tries to log in, it takes a long time
[15:26:02] <TheNate> idk how to fix
[16:51:15] <Lucifer_arma> TheNate: part of that is how the system works.  The only "fast" login I'm familiar with is not using the authorities at all
[16:51:34] <Lucifer_arma> there's a fair amount of back and forth, usually using the http protocol, when you use the authorities
[16:51:51] <Lucifer_arma> basically, there isn't anything we can do, unless we want to create standalone login servers
[16:57:44] <Lucifer_arma> woohoo!  I didn't realize you can hide your global id :)
[16:58:15] <TheNate> ?
[17:01:14] <TheNate> other servers didnot have this problem and whatu u mean with global id?
[17:05:34] <Lucifer_arma> maybe you could put your config on the pastebin?  (leave out private stuff, of course)
[17:05:37] <Lucifer_arma> what OS are you using?
[17:06:05] <TheNate> ubuntu xenial
[17:09:28] <Lucifer_arma> is there anything in the logs that's interesting?
[17:09:52] <Lucifer_arma> if the server is having trouble reaching an authority, you should get something in stdout/log file
[17:10:02] <TheNate> i saw nothing i hear about -  ZThreads
[17:10:08] <TheNate> maybe i should try this
[17:11:02] <Lucifer_arma> I thought we build with multithreading automatically?
[17:11:07] <Lucifer_arma> did you build from sources?
[17:11:48] <TheNate> i just installed the package
[17:16:40] <Lucifer_arma> what user id are you using to logn?
[17:16:43] <Lucifer_arma> *login
[17:17:08] <TheNate> my one, and other people have the same if they login
[17:17:16] <TheNate> TheNate@forums
[17:18:27] <Lucifer_arma> what server is it?
[17:18:45] <TheNate> Whiskey Tron Freedom ....
[17:19:52] <Lucifer_arma> did you see me login just now?
[17:20:09] <TheNate> no
[17:20:35] <TheNate> now after round end
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[17:37:29] <Lucifer_arma> anybody else remember the good ol' days when they said "Hey, it'll be a semantic web, all you'll need to do is change the css file to make it look different"?
[17:37:36] <Lucifer_arma> WHY didn't that HAPPEN?
[17:42:55] <TheNate> :=)
[17:43:35] <Lucifer_arma> you know what's hard?  Trying to build a mediawiki skin from a partially-completed skin made by someone else when I have no idea what he was trying to make it look like
[17:44:28] <TheNate> thats rly hard
[18:07:35] <Lucifer_arma> well, I've got the header working for now.
[18:09:01] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: what's the correct address for the forums?  Is it still forums3.armagetronad.net
[18:09:03] <Lucifer_arma> ?
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[18:59:02] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [themes] r40 Moving things around, getting ready for a newer mediawiki || [themes] r39 Made the header work for one browser configuration only
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[19:28:43] <Lucifer_arma> Woohoo!  The ArmagetronLegacy skin works!  It looks just like MonoBook!
[19:44:09] <Lucifer_arma> I'm making the wiki font bigger
[20:10:20] <Lucifer_arma> just have one little change left, then, well, I don't know.  I can't test it on windows browsers
[20:28:06] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: ok, I pushed the ArmagetronLegacy skin.  I could only check it against Chrome and Firefox, whatever versions are with the latest Kubuntu, but the way mediawiki works, and the few things I changed, we're probably ok.
[20:28:20] <Lucifer_arma> we're more likely to get people mad because I changed the layout slightly than anything else.
[20:28:27] <Lucifer_arma> but it works for mediawiki 1.27.  I posted about that.
[20:29:22] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [themes] r42 Finished up the ArmagetronLegacy skin. || [themes] r41 Starting this mother from scratch. Should have listened to ...
[20:29:46] <Lucifer_arma> it feels kind of good to see ljrbot reporting work being done
[20:59:06] <Lucifer_arma> well, I broke preferences.  There's no more notebook UI there, and I have no idea why.
[21:06:16] <Lucifer_arma> guru3: hey!  HEY!
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[22:09:26] <Armanelgtron> ugh, tell thenate if you see him that the problem might just be zthread
[22:11:10] <Armanelgtron> especially if it ONLY logins in between rounds
[23:07:37] <Lucifer_arma> how is it zthread?
[23:07:46] <Lucifer_arma> I thought we quit using that and went to some boost thing
[23:08:00] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: nag
[23:08:25] <Lucifer_arma> Armanelgtron: ?
[23:10:48] <Lucifer_arma> I like how the bots are more interested in ArmaUnified than in upgrading the wiki
[23:17:07] <Lucifer_arma> wow, our "Building your skillset" page is both hopelessly out of date, hard to read, and truly useful
[23:18:00] <Lucifer_arma> And who the hell decided to spell it "Manoeuvering?"
[23:18:13] <Lucifer_arma> Whose web browser said that was spelled right?
[23:22:20] <Lucifer_arma> I feel like I wrote the rough draft, and then sinewav came in and edited everything
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[23:47:31] <Lucifer_arma> hi physkets
[23:48:10] <Lucifer_arma> that's a terrible way to pronounce physics, btw

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