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Log from 2018-05-24: [01:12:27] *** Joins: physkets (~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets) [03:21:06] <Armanelgtron> @physkets You could maybe package it as a seperate package, 0.4 being armagetronad-experimental (and the version number could be something like the version and the revision (such as 0.4r1622)... 0.3 isn't maintained so you probably should not bother with that version [04:59:15] <physkets> Armanelgtron: ah, okay... in that case, I'll stick to 0.2.8 for the distro, and package the trunk version for the AUR [05:00:20] <physkets> the AUR is an unofficial collection of packages that Arch-based distros can use to simplify a build & install [05:33:19] <Lucifer_arma> physkets: you should use the 0.4 branch for the experimental one, because the trunk is way behind [05:45:59] *** Quits: Guest79162609 (LS@cpc76132-clif11-2-0-cust623.12-4.cable.virginm.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:46:06] *** Joins: Long_Shoota (LS@cpc76132-clif11-2-0-cust623.12-4.cable.virginm.net) [05:54:11] <physkets> Lucifer_arma: oh, I thought trunk meant 0.4, my bad... that is what I meant [08:45:08] *** Quits: physkets (~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets) (Quit: physkets) [09:14:14] *** Joins: TheNate (~Okon@p200300C873D6AC0039B2420F82FCBF8E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [09:17:02] <TheNate> hello, can someone help me with my server? [12:37:43] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: shit. I just realized I've been working with a skin that requires mediawiki 1.29. We're stil on 1.27, right? [13:57:46] <Lucifer_arma> ok, there's no quick and easy way to adapt ArmaUnified to mediawiki after whatever version it was originally developed for [13:58:23] <Lucifer_arma> TheNate: I'll bite, what problem are you having with your server? [13:58:44] <Lucifer_arma> also, generally, it's best to just state the problem. Don't ask for help, tell us what you need more specifically. [13:59:37] <Lucifer_arma> why am I screwing around with the Vector skin when we started from MonoBook last time, anyway? [15:13:56] <TheNate> my problem is the delay when logging [15:15:01] <Lucifer_arma> delay when logging? [15:15:41] <TheNate> if i type /login on server it needs sometimes 3 rounds [15:21:49] <TheNate> uk this problem? [15:22:57] <Lucifer_arma> ah, you mean logging in, heh. logging is keeping logs. :) [15:23:06] <Lucifer_arma> what authority are you using? [15:24:10] <TheNate> ah ok ;) i try to ligin with the forums [15:24:16] <TheNate> login* [15:26:00] <TheNate> if someone tries to log in, it takes a long time [15:26:02] <TheNate> idk how to fix [16:51:15] <Lucifer_arma> TheNate: part of that is how the system works. The only "fast" login I'm familiar with is not using the authorities at all [16:51:34] <Lucifer_arma> there's a fair amount of back and forth, usually using the http protocol, when you use the authorities [16:51:51] <Lucifer_arma> basically, there isn't anything we can do, unless we want to create standalone login servers [16:57:44] <Lucifer_arma> woohoo! I didn't realize you can hide your global id :) [16:58:15] <TheNate> ? [17:01:14] <TheNate> other servers didnot have this problem and whatu u mean with global id? [17:05:34] <Lucifer_arma> maybe you could put your config on the pastebin? (leave out private stuff, of course) [17:05:37] <Lucifer_arma> what OS are you using? [17:06:05] <TheNate> ubuntu xenial [17:09:28] <Lucifer_arma> is there anything in the logs that's interesting? [17:09:52] <Lucifer_arma> if the server is having trouble reaching an authority, you should get something in stdout/log file [17:10:02] <TheNate> i saw nothing i hear about - ZThreads [17:10:08] <TheNate> maybe i should try this [17:11:02] <Lucifer_arma> I thought we build with multithreading automatically? [17:11:07] <Lucifer_arma> did you build from sources? [17:11:48] <TheNate> i just installed the package [17:16:40] <Lucifer_arma> what user id are you using to logn? [17:16:43] <Lucifer_arma> *login [17:17:08] <TheNate> my one, and other people have the same if they login [17:17:16] <TheNate> TheNate@forums [17:18:27] <Lucifer_arma> what server is it? [17:18:45] <TheNate> Whiskey Tron Freedom .... [17:19:52] <Lucifer_arma> did you see me login just now? [17:20:09] <TheNate> no [17:20:35] <TheNate> now after round end [17:24:01] *** Quits: G5 (~g5@p200300EB4BCE6C00A867CAD596C5739F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) () [17:37:29] <Lucifer_arma> anybody else remember the good ol' days when they said "Hey, it'll be a semantic web, all you'll need to do is change the css file to make it look different"? [17:37:36] <Lucifer_arma> WHY didn't that HAPPEN? [17:42:55] <TheNate> :=) [17:43:35] <Lucifer_arma> you know what's hard? Trying to build a mediawiki skin from a partially-completed skin made by someone else when I have no idea what he was trying to make it look like [17:44:28] <TheNate> thats rly hard [18:07:35] <Lucifer_arma> well, I've got the header working for now. [18:09:01] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: what's the correct address for the forums? Is it still forums3.armagetronad.net [18:09:03] <Lucifer_arma> ? [18:27:42] *** Parts: TheNate (~Okon@p200300C873D6AC0039B2420F82FCBF8E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) () [18:59:02] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [themes] r40 Moving things around, getting ready for a newer mediawiki || [themes] r39 Made the header work for one browser configuration only [19:23:18] *** Quits: Long_Shoota (LS@cpc76132-clif11-2-0-cust623.12-4.cable.virginm.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:23:27] *** Joins: Long_Shoota (LS@cpc76132-clif11-2-0-cust623.12-4.cable.virginm.net) [19:28:43] <Lucifer_arma> Woohoo! The ArmagetronLegacy skin works! It looks just like MonoBook! [19:44:09] <Lucifer_arma> I'm making the wiki font bigger [20:10:20] <Lucifer_arma> just have one little change left, then, well, I don't know. I can't test it on windows browsers [20:28:06] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: ok, I pushed the ArmagetronLegacy skin. I could only check it against Chrome and Firefox, whatever versions are with the latest Kubuntu, but the way mediawiki works, and the few things I changed, we're probably ok. [20:28:20] <Lucifer_arma> we're more likely to get people mad because I changed the layout slightly than anything else. [20:28:27] <Lucifer_arma> but it works for mediawiki 1.27. I posted about that. [20:29:22] <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [themes] r42 Finished up the ArmagetronLegacy skin. || [themes] r41 Starting this mother from scratch. Should have listened to ... [20:29:46] <Lucifer_arma> it feels kind of good to see ljrbot reporting work being done [20:59:06] <Lucifer_arma> well, I broke preferences. There's no more notebook UI there, and I have no idea why. [21:06:16] <Lucifer_arma> guru3: hey! HEY! [21:56:32] *** Z-Man is now known as Guest48187 [21:56:32] *** Joins: Z-Man- (~Z-Man@p4FE3EE23.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [21:56:32] *** Quits: Guest48187 (~Z-Man@p4FE3ED0E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Killed (niven.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) [21:56:32] *** Z-Man- is now known as Z-Man [22:09:26] <Armanelgtron> ugh, tell thenate if you see him that the problem might just be zthread [22:11:10] <Armanelgtron> especially if it ONLY logins in between rounds [23:07:37] <Lucifer_arma> how is it zthread? [23:07:46] <Lucifer_arma> I thought we quit using that and went to some boost thing [23:08:00] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: nag [23:08:25] <Lucifer_arma> Armanelgtron: ? [23:10:48] <Lucifer_arma> I like how the bots are more interested in ArmaUnified than in upgrading the wiki [23:17:07] <Lucifer_arma> wow, our "Building your skillset" page is both hopelessly out of date, hard to read, and truly useful [23:18:00] <Lucifer_arma> And who the hell decided to spell it "Manoeuvering?" [23:18:13] <Lucifer_arma> Whose web browser said that was spelled right? [23:22:20] <Lucifer_arma> I feel like I wrote the rough draft, and then sinewav came in and edited everything [23:46:21] *** Joins: physkets (~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets) [23:47:31] <Lucifer_arma> hi physkets [23:48:10] <Lucifer_arma> that's a terrible way to pronounce physics, btwView entire month
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