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Mar 19 02:54:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Ok, I'm loving the Monty Python theming we're doing for our network
Mar 19 02:55:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	The network itself is called Camelot, reflected in the Windows Workgroup as well as the Wifi name.  The media center PC is Dead-Parrot, and the NAS that holds a bunch of media is Rabbit
Mar 19 02:55:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	My wife also registered Camelot as our home for Facebook checkins :)
Mar 19 02:56:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	My phone is Brian, my laptop is Herman (the "It's..." guy from the flying circus), etc.
Mar 19 02:57:03 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I believe my older son's laptop is the Spanish Inquisition, and you get the idea.  My tablet is ComfyChair.
Mar 19 02:58:09 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	The description for Rabbit is "A device that contains British soldiers", of course
Mar 19 02:59:38 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	so, with all that in mind, sinewav, if you were to send me another NAS, I think I'd have to name it Badger
Mar 19 03:00:11 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	After that, we'd have to go with PFJ-Suicide-Squad or something like that
Mar 19 03:02:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ok, done with the navel-gazing
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Mar 19 03:04:36 2016 <sinewav>	ha. nice. I have another one of those same NAS units but all the bays are empty. There is a final one made by Mac that I still have to test.
Mar 19 03:05:24 2016 <sinewav>	I'm pretty sure we're not going to use the empty one, it will probably be e-wasted.
Mar 19 03:08:54 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	if it gets e-wasted, I'll actually have hard drives to put in it
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Mar 19 03:09:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	that pile of 5 hard drives you sent me, I can only directly use two of them, at this time.  So, I can either keep the other three as spares, or stick them in something.
Mar 19 03:09:33 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and I can probably buy another one to round out the mix.
Mar 19 03:09:59 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	as it stands, when I update Dead-Parrot (which I'm working on), I'll use two of those hard drives and an IDE 250GB hard drive from the old Dead-Parrot
Mar 19 03:10:27 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Then I'll have three hard drives that are sitting as spares for existing stuff, also an additional IDE 250GB hard drive sitting as a spare
Mar 19 03:11:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, I'm on the verge of filling up the NAS you sent me, so extra space will be needed, hence why I'm building a new Dead-Parrot (building from a computer I got when my shop closed)
Mar 19 03:11:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	oh right, then I still need another hard drive for the new router I'm going to build, using the OTHER computer I got when the shop closed
Mar 19 03:12:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	(I got 3 altogether, but one of them is slated as the case that will be used to finish my console project, and I already have the motherboard for it, just not he hard drives, CPU, memory, and CPU cooling stuff)
Mar 19 03:13:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but moving to NAS stuff like I just did has actually reduced the hard drive requirements for that machine to just one, enough to hold an operating system
Mar 19 03:19:15 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	heh, also, I need a decent wireless-N card that works in Linux and supports AP mode.  I'm assuming I have to buy that one.
Mar 19 03:30:31 2016 <sinewav>	AP mode? Why? Running extra security?
Mar 19 03:31:30 2016 <sinewav>	I have one of these you can have but I don't think it supports AP mode:
Mar 19 03:31:30 2016 <sinewav>	http://www.belkin.com/us/support-product?pid=01t80000002G2BVAA0
Mar 19 03:36:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	It has to support AP mode because it will be used as an access point
Mar 19 03:36:50 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it'll be a PC configured to be a wireless router
Mar 19 03:37:25 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Yeah, the USB ones typically don't, they're designed as clients, and I'm building a server
Mar 19 03:37:57 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I can probably still use it as a client, but if you're going to go through the effort to mail it to me, you should include it in a package with stuff we know for sure I'll use
Mar 19 03:38:08 2016 <sinewav>	Ah, makes sense.
Mar 19 03:38:16 2016 <sinewav>	ok bedtime!
Mar 19 03:38:30 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I actually haven't even started the server, there's a lot of cleaning involved to take a shop computer and put it in my home
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Mar 19 03:38:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	'night
Mar 19 03:49:17 2016 <ljrbot>	New news from bzr: [0.2.9-armagetronad-sty+ct+ap] r1064 Added new command: BANNED_WORDS_WHOLE that changes whether t...
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Mar 19 04:11:09 2016 <\u03b5>	Lucifer_arma: there's a wiki page about it
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Mar 19 04:27:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	\u03b5: about what?
Mar 19 04:30:28 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, why didn't you revert back to epsy when that relationship failed?  You're still using your cutesy irc nickname, and this was like years ago  (hell, she and I have facebook unfriended for a long time)
Mar 19 04:31:05 2016 <\u03b5>	the new cockpit creator documentation
Mar 19 04:31:24 2016 <\u03b5>	I don't particularly associate it with her
Mar 19 04:31:55 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ok, that's your deal.  I associated it with the two of you as a couple, and maybe I was wrong to do so.
Mar 19 04:32:06 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	What do you mean about cockpit creator documentation?
Mar 19 04:32:15 2016 <\u03b5>	indeed :-)
Mar 19 04:32:16 2016 *	Lucifer_arma scrolls back to see if we talked about cockpits
Mar 19 04:32:51 2016 <\u03b5>	well, you were wondering about it, it just explains how it solves the aspect ratio issue
Mar 19 04:32:52 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, while we're on the subject, have you merged the cockpit branch with the 0.4 trunk yet?  ;)
Mar 19 04:32:58 2016 <\u03b5>	no
Mar 19 04:33:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	wow, when were we talking about that?  That was like, days ago.
Mar 19 04:33:23 2016 <\u03b5>	well, it was in my highlight buffer
Mar 19 04:33:58 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	ah, I see.  That was probably when me and sinewav were chatting a few nights ago about cockpits, because he's designing cockpits for 0.4
Mar 19 04:34:12 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and I remember telling him to talk to you about the aspect ratio thing
Mar 19 04:35:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you had a list of things that needed to be finished in the cockpit branch.  Do any of them prevent merging back to 0.4 (so 0.4 can have what's already been done)?
Mar 19 04:35:24 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	Also, is there a reason for those things to be finished in the branch before merging, or can they also be done after merging?
Mar 19 04:35:43 2016 <\u03b5>	well, the wiki page should sum it up, including differences with the old thing
Mar 19 04:36:23 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	it probably does.  I'm not in a position to look at it right now, and figured you knew the answer since you've been working on it.
Mar 19 04:38:27 2016 <\u03b5>	iirc there's an unnecessary cast every frame which I wanted to get rid of, and I wanted better support for compositing an image and color, but no showstoppers
Mar 19 04:38:46 2016 <\u03b5>	the old cockpits ought to be mostly compatible
Mar 19 04:38:51 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but the differences aren't important.  What matters is can it be merged with 0.4?
Mar 19 04:39:12 2016 <\u03b5>	in one word yes
Mar 19 04:39:17 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	the ones that aren't would have to be fixed by their authors.  It's still considered experimental, we have no obligation to maintain compatibility
Mar 19 04:39:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	then, when you have a spare couple of hours to manage that, would you mind just doing it?
Mar 19 04:39:56 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	You're most familiar with the code, that's why I ask you specifically
Mar 19 04:39:59 2016 <\u03b5>	I'll find a time
Mar 19 04:40:10 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	doesn't have to be soon, could be six months from now the way things are going :)
Mar 19 04:40:16 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	so there's obviously no pressure
Mar 19 04:40:17 2016 <\u03b5>	Tuesday
Mar 19 04:41:05 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	also, make a list.  Could/should be a plaintext file listing the stuff that needs to be done for the cockpit to be considered finished
Mar 19 04:41:21 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	you gave me a list awhile back, and I stupidly didn't store it anywhere
Mar 19 04:42:18 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	and, heh, we might release without those items being finished, so hopefully this text file will include some information about items that are *really* important
Mar 19 04:43:29 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	just so you don't feel like you're being nagged all alone, I want to nag kyle about a patch from the sty branch, but he's not here to nag right now
Mar 19 04:44:02 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	he was supposed to come up with a suitable 0.4 patch for the stuff done in that branch that can make it into 0.4
Mar 19 04:44:48 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but I've got time to wait.  I'm focused on getting my kid into residential treatment, which obviously is an effort that precedes armagetron work
Mar 19 04:45:19 2016 <\u03b5>	I'll try to find it.
Mar 19 04:45:41 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	(and argues against Mya Ferron's idea that everybody should own guns, because if we owned guns, my kid would have successfully killled herself by now)
Mar 19 04:45:43 2016 <\u03b5>	hope that goes well
Mar 19 04:46:51 2016 <\u03b5>	I didn't need to be reminded of her vision of "opinions"...
Mar 19 04:47:39 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	sorry about that.  Our friendship broke up on that point.  I'd thought it was stronger than that, but I was wrong.  She made a big facebook post demanding I dump her, but not actually doing the dumping, of course.
Mar 19 04:47:47 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	but luckily, I'm happy to oblige.
Mar 19 04:48:07 2016 <Lucifer_arma>	I think my wife is still friends with her.
Mar 19 06:28:38 2016 <ihptru>	forums.armagetronad.net also does not work for me
Mar 19 06:28:59 2016 <ihptru>	nvm, forums3 working
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Mar 19 21:19:52 2016 <kevin>	any coders online?
Mar 19 21:20:11 2016 *	kevin is now known as Guest77926
Mar 19 21:20:27 2016 <Guest77926>	I have an idea for a new feature and I am willing to pay for it if someone can make it within a week.
Mar 19 21:20:34 2016 *	Guest77926 is now known as apkevin
Mar 19 21:22:51 2016 <sinewav>	apkevin: what is it?
Mar 19 21:52:19 2016 <apkevin>	sinewav:   make the number of bytes in the ping packets adjustable
Mar 19 21:52:40 2016 <apkevin>	that way I could set it larger, I think it would be a way to automatically block players that use proxies
Mar 19 21:53:28 2016 <apkevin>	sinewav: sorry forgot to come back to this window
Mar 19 21:54:45 2016 <sinewav>	There are a existing couple settings that can possibly accomplish what you want. One is PING_CHARITY and the other is CYCLE_PING_RUBBER
Mar 19 21:55:03 2016 <sinewav>	You might be able to adjust them to get the desired effect.
Mar 19 21:55:29 2016 <sinewav>	It wouldn't block them out, but it would make the server unplayable to them.
Mar 19 21:56:00 2016 <apkevin>	sinewav: I dont mean to block players with a high ping, I mean to block players with a small MTU
Mar 19 21:59:05 2016 <sinewav>	Ah, interesting idea. I can't help you, but perhaps someone can direct you to the part of the code that handles this.
Mar 19 22:28:46 2016 <apkevin>	well if anybody shows up who likes my idea AmarokNelg knows how to find me.
Mar 19 22:29:06 2016 <AmarokNelg>	apkevin: do I?
Mar 19 22:29:16 2016 <AmarokNelg>	apkevin: oh wait, I do...
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