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Log from 2009-10-13:
--- Day changed Tue Oct 13 2009
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03:15 <luke-jr> where is master server 1?
03:25 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: it's one of guru3's
03:46 <luke-jr> :p
03:47 <luke-jr> whoa
03:47 <luke-jr> my new customer's house is up for sale
03:47 <luke-jr> $489k
03:47 <luke-jr> :O
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06:06 <ct|kyle> Don't you just love it when you can't change page layout w/o a printer on MS
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--- Log opened Tue Oct 13 11:54:48 2009
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15:43 <akira_arma> O.o
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16:38 <Vanhayes> si fort
16:38 <Vanhayes> #si for
16:38 <Vanhayes> #si forr
16:38 <Vanhayes> #si fort
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (8/14): *SuckasaMikasa*, -BS-DrHouse, Centrurøide_§, Hell'sAngel, matrix, modis, Player 11, WithGlasses
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “forr” at the moment, sorry.
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (8/14): *SuckasaMikasa*, -BS-DrHouse, Centrurøide_§, Hell'sAngel, matrix, modis, Player 11, WithGlasses
16:40 <Vanhayes> #si ds
16:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress: Players (3/32): noob13, p0p3, Vanhayes
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18:39 <madmax> hi
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18:42 <\u03b5> hi
18:46 <K-Yo> hi
18:47 <luke-jr> O HAI THAR
18:47 <\u03b5> OH NOES
18:48  * K-Yo slaps luke-jr 
18:49 <K-Yo> .slap luke-jr 2
18:49  * tronner slaps luke-jr around with the ancient, small bottle
18:49  * tronner slaps luke-jr around with a casted staff
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19:10 <Jip> hi
19:11 <Jip> somebody up for fortres?
19:13 <akira_arma> .as
19:13 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 92 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), ~Wild Night~ (7/10), WILDCAT (5/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), SPACEZONE II S (5/15), Flower Power Sumo Assault (5/12), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (4/8), Norm's Home (4/12), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (3/10), Crazy Tronners Wild (1 more message)
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19:30 <akira_arma> Uk lawmakers must be really paranoid
19:31 <akira_arma> registry for all persons in contact with children
19:31 <akira_arma> O.o
19:33 <akira_arma> this whole preemptive strike mentality is such a fail
19:35 <noob13> .sd fortress
19:35 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (6/14): aok yoshy (aok\\_yoshy@ct/public), elastic, killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), maño, matrix, {APF}L+*~O+*~L
19:35 <noob13> .as
19:35 <tronner> noob13: This data is 19 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (10/12), Flower Power Sumo Assault (9/12), ~Wild Night~ (7/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (6/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), WILDCAT (5/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (4/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (3/10), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), |FA| Black Tar! (2/16), SPACEZONE III (2/15), -  [ Nano's (1 more message)
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20:14 <Vanhayes> .as
20:14 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 16 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (9/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (8/10), ~Wild Night~ (6/10), WILDCAT (5/8), ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ|   .dBd| Nano's Zombie DF!   | (5/10), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (5/8), .:Pls Res Us!:. .:Téàm DF:. (1 more message)
20:15 <Vanhayes> .si ds
20:15 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (9/32): -»|slash, .×] Hoax, .×] PlayerNuby, Bellum (steam@forums), ct|pike (pike@ct/junior), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Longball|mbc (Longballlasch@ct/public), Player 98 (Olive@forums), Sandglass
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21:00 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r942 Fixed typo....
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21:30 <AshitakA>  hello?
21:30 <AshitakA>  someone knows what's up with the pickup room?
21:32 <AshitakA>  maybe luke-jr?
21:33 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9282 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eTeam.cpp): epsy: Fixed typo.
21:34 <P4> AshitakA: afaik it's been suspended due to leak of life :þ
21:37 <AshitakA>  so its gone forever?
21:39 <P4> 10Oct09 222103 <\u03b5> idk, maybe I'll relaunch it
21:39 <AshitakA>  would be nice, I liked it, even there were not enough people
21:39 <P4> so did i
21:41 <AshitakA>  so, if it doesnt makes problems just let it be, maybe somedays it will get fuller
21:42 <P4> 10Oct09 222010 <\u03b5> bah, it was dieing and I once raged.
21:42 <AshitakA>  tha main problem is, that its only good for those, who are in irc
21:43 <P4> yeh, that spreads irc among the tron world making it more popular (hopefuly) :D
21:43 <AshitakA>  it was a good reason to get people to irc
21:43 <P4> (:
21:44 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: Hi There!
21:44 <P4> i wouldn't mind if it worked backwards, so getting tron more popular
21:44 <AshitakA>  and sometimes there were some good matches
21:45 <P4> maybe the Tron Legacy premiere is a good reason to promote ArmageTron a bit more :)
21:46 <eddiefantastic> P4: Pleaaaase, no more kids on the forums :S
21:49 <P4> what kids?
21:51 <eddiefantastic> oh, do you visit the arma forums lately?
21:51 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: ...
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21:52 <eddiefantastic> ah, zones_v2, having a play
21:53 <eddiefantastic> I'm having to start from scratch, my old maps are too broken now
21:53 <eddiefantastic> I remember a large gripe I had with it before
21:54 <eddiefantastic> reusing shapes, what're the chances?
21:54 <P4> no, i don't visit forums at all :þ
21:54 <P4> maybe except the CT one
21:54 <P4> kids must be learnt if they don't know the netiquette or whatever else.
21:55 <P4> teached*?
21:55 <eddiefantastic> P4: taught. And you're right, but when they see others acting the same as them, they think they're normal
21:57 <P4> on arma forums? oO
21:57 <P4> clean it up then :þ
21:57 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: eg. I create a fish shaped zone, and I want twelve of these fish zones on the grid. right now I have to give the coordinates of each fish twelve times, if I want to tweak this said fish, I have to make the changes twelve times
21:57 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: true
21:57 <eddiefantastic> P4: arma forums, yes. But easier said than done
21:58 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: we should support XML includes and shape XML files
21:58 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: now that would be great. And very easy to reuse the same shape in multiple maps
21:59 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: at the same time, we should abstract effect/visual more
21:59 <luke-jr> or at least enough that clients can support new functions without upgrades
22:00 <eddiefantastic> I'm starting to build simple maps to test things and I'm remembering just how time consuming the whole process is
22:00 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: copy and paste?
22:00 <luke-jr> lol
22:00 <eddiefantastic> mind you, I do build fairly complex maps
22:00 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: I see your point though
22:01 <luke-jr> perhaps polygon zones should require an external resource for the shape?
22:01 <luke-jr> I mean, kinda too late, but in the future...
22:01 <luke-jr> or better yet
22:01 <luke-jr> how about including mapA inside mapB
22:01 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: a one off shape is fine, but right now I'm building four shapes that I may want to alter later
22:02 <luke-jr> then mapA can be only a zone entry
22:02 <luke-jr> and mapB can set scale/offset info
22:02 <luke-jr> I *think* that's doable without too much work
22:02 <eddiefantastic> anything that gives me more control over reusing shapes works for me
22:02 <luke-jr> who wants to do the map-embed branch? :p
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22:39 <Vanhayes> .as
22:39 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 14 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), SPACEZONE III (5/15), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (5/32), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (3/12), ~Wild Night~ (3/10), WILDCAT (3/8), Norm's Home (3/12), |FA| (1 more message)
22:39 <Vanhayes> .si ds
22:39 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (5/32): -*|420, -=}ID< Qi, .×] Hoax, Jip, Mikey
22:48 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: I'm having real problems with what is supposed to work and what isn't with zones_v2. Most of http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2 gives me validation errors, and that's the only documentation I know of
22:49 <eddiefantastic> I'm just segfaulting 9 times out of 10 until I stumble blindly upon something that works. It's very slow going here
22:49 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: so forget documentation and read the current DTD
22:50 <luke-jr> it should never segfault
22:50 <eddiefantastic> Failed to validate
22:50 <eddiefantastic> Segmentation fault
22:50 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: any xml error seg faults
22:50 <luke-jr> fail
22:50 <eddiefantastic> I'm running from the client, not server
22:51 <eddiefantastic> load maps locally
22:51 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: and I posted a backtrace with the bug report
22:52 <eddiefantastic> :47: element Effect: validity error : Element Effect was declared EMPTY this one has content
22:52 <eddiefantastic>                                   </Effect>
22:52 <eddiefantastic>                                            ^
22:52 <eddiefantastic> Failed to validate
22:52 <eddiefantastic> Segmentation fault
22:52 <eddiefantastic> that was trying what was suggested from the wiki
22:52 <eddiefantastic> I will try to study the dtd
22:57 <eddiefantastic> time to go, I will try again another day. bye
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