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Log from 2009-07-01:
--- Day changed Wed Jul 01 2009
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00:09 <madmax> Flex: was it omega?
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00:13 <madmax> Vanhayes_: congrats, you succeeded on teaching today :-P
00:14 <epsy> madmax, no I'm not in denial, it annoys me :D
00:14 <madmax> :(
00:15 <epsy> where are my brackets :(
00:15 <dlh> epsy: sys.path?
00:16 <epsy> dlh, nah, I wanted the env var, found it anyway: PYTHONPATH
00:16 <dlh> Or PYTHONPATH
00:16  * dlh 
00:16  * epsy 
00:17 <Luke-Jr> …
00:20 <madmax>  
00:35 <epsy> is there any notion of private/public methods in python?
00:59 <Flex> madmax, yeah
00:59 <Luke-Jr> sortof XD
00:59 <Flex> it was
00:59 <Luke-Jr> epsy: prefix private with _
00:59 <Luke-Jr> lol
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01:00 <epsy> Luke-Jr, ah ok, ty
01:10 <Vanhayes_> madmax, ya one a day, i met my quota
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01:13 <Flex> that's a hard one
01:13 <Flex> mine is probably one a month
01:14 <Flex> and invite someone to tron, once every 6 months
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01:15 <Flex> (solid invite, where they actually stay on to play,ect)
01:22 <noob13> .sd fort
01:22 <tronner> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (9/32): copy/appa, kpt.Kyrk, QUBIT, Radian, sine.wav, ubuntu_user, z3r0, zz 109, ~*Sasha*~ (Sasha@forums)
01:33 <epsy> meh
01:33 <epsy> how can I compare two lists?
01:34 <epsy> ['a', 'b'] == ['a', 'b'] gives me a syntax error :<
01:34 <epsy> do I have to check each value?
01:35 <madmax> that's probably not the error, because it's correct...
01:35 <epsy>         if e.target() == self.mainchannel and ( e.arguments()[0] == ['+o', self.real_nickname] )
01:36 <epsy> it's pretty much showing the ^ at the last char
01:36 <epsy> it was the last ] before I added parenthesis
01:36 <epsy> now )
01:37 <madmax> hmm
01:38 <epsy> ah
01:38 <madmax> you have the : on the end of the if right
01:38 <epsy> :)
01:38 <epsy> that was it indeed
01:41 <epsy> it's shaping up :)
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02:26 <sam180307> Sam:
02:26 <sam180307> sam180307
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02:26 <epsy> I assure you, this isn't my bot
02:27 <epsy> hmm, I'm using a for loop on a list
02:27 <epsy> but I need the indexes :<
02:27 <epsy> well
02:27 <epsy> I just thought about another way
02:28 <epsy> of doing it
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02:29 <epsy> awave?
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02:51 <animuson_> whats the proper syntax for the respawn_player command?
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03:07 <animuson_> im using /admin respawn_player animuson 0 50 50 1 0
03:07 <animuson_> but it spawns me in some random spot
03:08 <animuson_> its CLOSE to the spot but not right on
03:15 <dlh> epsy: enumerate
03:17 <epsy> ty
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05:37 <epsy> dlh, fixing this would cause crappier bugs
05:43 <dlh> Like?
05:43 <dlh> epsy:
05:46 <epsy> weird GIDs if the user logs in again
05:46 <epsy> problem is that the name update has to happen right after the logout/login happens
05:46 <epsy> otherwise things get buggy
05:47 <epsy> basically, it's not something you want to fix in
05:47 <dlh> logout wouldn't be processed until end of the round
05:48 <epsy> well, that can get really crap for the admin if he has to hurry
05:48 <dlh> Allow instant logout for higher userlevels
05:49 <epsy> again, that's not something you want in stable
05:49 <Lucifer> I missed why it's a bug in the first place
05:49 <dlh> Considering the current behavior can be exploited, it is
05:50 <epsy> well, the older behaviour could be exploited for worser stuff
05:50 <epsy> it's a double-sided can of worms
05:50 <dlh> When you could change your name at anytime, people used it to spam and increase their ladder score.
05:51 <dlh> "stat-whoring"
05:51 <dlh> Not that ladder score is all that great
05:51 <Lucifer> ahhh, and we don't have ladder score linked to auth names yet, do we?
05:51 <dlh> No, when you log in using auth, your name recorded in the score files is your authenticated one
05:51 <epsy> dlh, well, with the older behviour you get buggy ladder entries, in the form of epsy@forumsepsy@forumsepsy@forums
05:52 <epsy> @bugs duplicating logout
05:52 <teabot> epsy: no results for: site:https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/ duplicating logout
05:52 <epsy> @bugs logout username
05:52 <teabot> epsy: no results for: site:https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/ logout username
05:52 <ct|kyle> @bugs gid
05:53 <teabot> ct|kyle: no results for: site:https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/ gid
05:53 <dlh> Well done bots :)
05:53 <epsy> yup
05:53 <epsy> @help bugs
05:53 <teabot> epsy: (bugs <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "g site:https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/ $*".
05:53 <epsy> @help alias add
05:53 <teabot> epsy: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," and cannot be (1 more message)
05:53 <Lucifer> #g epsy
05:53 <Lucifer> @g epsy
05:53 <armabot> Lucifer: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
05:53 <teabot> Lucifer: http://www.epsy.com/ - EPSY - Marketing and Social Research
05:53 <ct|kyle> .g epsy
05:54 <epsy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/223625
05:54 <teabot> Launchpad bug 223625 in armagetronad "buggy username after /deop'ing" [Medium,Fix committed]
05:58 <epsy> blah, I seriousely hope this bot won't be Excess Flooding all the time
05:58 <epsy> otherwise I dunno what I'll do with it :/
05:59 <epsy> since we are 4 activve people
06:00 <epsy> Lucifer, ct|kyle dlh come please :x
06:00 <Lucifer> ok, why?
06:01 <Lucifer> I'm actually mostly in other windows right now
06:01 <epsy> testing if the bot doesnt go excessflood
06:01 <epsy> when announcing a game
06:01 <epsy> do I have to re-invite you?
06:01 <Lucifer> ok, fine, invite me again and I'll join
06:01 <Lucifer> but I won't talk :)
06:03 <epsy> Lucifer, well, just say !add fort :p
06:04 <dlh> Where is this?
06:05 <Lucifer> !add fort
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06:18 <epsy> nighty X_x
06:19 <epsy> ty all
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08:27 <dlh> #sd incam fort
08:28 <dlh> .sd incam fort
08:28 <tronner> dlh: PLUS + ¦Incam Fortress¦0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (8/16): Ca:en-IN-Vy:m, CtxWoned(incam), dubStep (KinKs@forums), Fadrad, free kill (free_kill_(inca@L_OP), i Am (teen@forums), pike, ToXiC
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09:55 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [server-browser] r9 Show global ID in players list... || [server-browser] r8 Set table column sizes... || [server-browser] r7 Add version to detailed info... || [server-browser] r6 Ensure URI links start with http://, and remove version min/... || [server-browser] r5 Use instead of a spam with a click action attached for c... || [server-browser] r4 Added link to refresh server list... || [server-browser] r3 Remo
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10:25 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [server-browser] r12 Add custom sorter for server column, much like the in-game o... || [server-browser] r11 Sort table first by users online, then by server name || [server-browser] r10 Reformatted the detailed server box...
10:29 <joda_bot> ping Luke-Jr
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10:30 <joda_bot> Luke-Jr: I just tried layman to install armagetron on gentoo. how difficult is it to get a armagetronad-live with 0.2.8.x (e.g. latest stable beta :D)
10:42 <joda_bot> Luke-Jr: I noticed there is an ebuild for that, but gentoo does not like it ... it thinks that ebuild is masked
10:43 <joda_bot> Luke-Jr: talking about armagetronad-live-0.2.8_alpha8586.ebuild
10:57 <joda_bot> Luke-Jr: fixed it, I just was too stupid to unmask it, because it's not really a final release
10:58 <joda_bot> and I somehow considered 0.2.8.x branch as stable (but it's not an official release so that ebuild is masked)
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11:25 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r766 Merge from trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r919 When handling an armagetronad:// URI event, return to the ma...
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17:18 <Luke-Jr> joda_bot: it is masked, of course
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18:16 <ct|kyle> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9Mjm-Hohc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnews%2Ecnet%2Ecom%2F8301%2D17852%5F3%2D10276705%2D71%2Ehtml%3Fpart%3Drss%26subj%3Dnews%26tag%3D2547%2D1%5F3%2D0%2D20&feature=player_embedded
18:20 <madmax> sad.
18:20 <ct|kyle> ya
18:21 <ct|kyle> I figured IE was what was on the screen
18:22 <epsy> she pukes at IE right?
18:22 <epsy> :)
18:22 <ct|kyle> ya :P
18:22 <epsy> that's possibly the worst way to market such a feature IMO
18:22 <ct|kyle> I know
18:23 <epsy> if you're an obsessed perv, download internet explorer 8.0!
18:23 <ct|kyle> it's about as bad as those gates commercials
18:25 <epsy> epsy's fabulous python coding stories anyone?
18:25 <epsy> summary of today's episode: both configparser and objparser suck
18:26 <epsy> winner: plain python config file
18:27 <ct|kyle> epsy: if you hate python that much, why not use something else?
18:27 <epsy> lots of irc bots use it
18:27 <epsy> so I tried
18:27 <ct|kyle> just because it's popular doesn't mean it's right :P
18:28 <epsy> stop recommending it then
18:28 <ct|kyle> that doesen't mean I Don't like it
18:29 <ct|kyle> I'll probably be complaining in the next few weeks anyway
18:29 <epsy>         'games': {
18:29 <epsy>             'fort':   ['Fortress',                4,      2],
18:29 <epsy>             '4tf':    ['Four Team Fortress',      16,     4],
18:29 <epsy>             'race':   ['Race',                    3,      0]
18:29 <epsy>             },
18:29 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [server-browser] r13 Highlight the current tr we are hovering over. CSS :hover is...
18:30 <epsy> would I better change each game description with dicts?
18:30 <ct|kyle> I would make a class
18:30 <akira_arma> #si fort
18:31 <epsy> it's a damn config file >.>
18:31 <akira_arma> .si fort
18:31 <tronner> akira_arma: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (1/14): ~ZenTH~WG~INW~
18:31 <akira_arma> ..
18:31 <epsy> @tea
18:31 <akira_arma> .tea
18:31 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:31 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:31 <akira_arma> too many freaking bots
18:31 <epsy> use the right one ;p
18:31 <dlh> ]si tea
18:31 <ljrbot> dlh: Error: "si" is not a valid command.
18:31 <akira_arma> *tea
18:31 <dlh> &tea
18:32 <akira_arma> $tea
18:32 <akira_arma> haha
18:32 <epsy> !add fort
18:32 <epsy> :)
18:32 <madmax> ivantis & his bot are (still) banned? :(
18:32 <epsy> I have no idea where I will host the bot and it's servers
18:33 <epsy> :{
18:33 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: would tell you to by a vps from him :P
18:34 <epsy> ah, I know
18:34 <madmax> so you're doing something to arrange matches and...?
18:35 <epsy> yeah, anytime with anyone on irc
18:38 <epsy> is FTS abandonned again?
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18:59 <madmax> is it up even?
18:59 <madmax> #sd fts
19:00 <madmax> -_-
19:00 <madmax> .si fts
19:00 <tronner> madmax: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “fts” at the moment, sorry.
19:00 <madmax> .si fortress test
19:00 <tronner> madmax: Fortress Test Server: Players (0/16):
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19:25 <Luke-Jr> epsy: want a VPS for it? :þ
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20:11 <Vanhayes_> #canada
20:11 <Vanhayes_> aw, some go t rid of that
20:11 <Vanhayes_> happy canada day anyaways
20:15 <Vanhayes_> madmax, since i suggested AW get a team again does that mean i have to be team capt?
20:19 <Vanhayes_> meh i guess ill put my name down there for now
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20:30 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [server-browser] r18 Added pressed state to refresh button. Also not a link anymo... || [server-browser] r17 Made users column a little bigger || [server-browser] r16 Removed refreshing server when you click it. Added refresh b... || [server-browser] r15 Removed static server detail box at bottom of page. Now when... || [server-browser] r14 Add server class, and use it when selecting all servers....
20:35 <Vanhayes_> hmm, server class?
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20:42 <dlh> Vanhayes_: it is a new web server browser.
20:42 <dlh> It seems Firefox 3.5's javascript engine is still too slow.
20:44 <madmax> Vanhayes_: fine by me :P
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20:48 <Vanhayes_> you can be capt if you want to
20:48 <Vanhayes_> abnyone else can be capt if they wan to
20:48 <Vanhayes_> the last time i was capt i think it was the spoon
20:48 <Vanhayes_> and that scarred me for life
20:49 <madmax> I'd rather not
20:50 <Vanhayes_> well hopefully it wont be as bad as the spoon
20:51 <Vanhayes_> though i think they would have to really try to make it bad for it to be even close
20:56 <PinkTomato> #ladle
20:56 <PinkTomato> @ladlelink
20:56 <PinkTomato> @ladle
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21:04 <PinkTomato> .ubuntu
21:04 <tronner> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
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21:11 <Vanhayes_> ugh the put a mountie as the L on google
21:14 <MrBougo> where?
21:14 <MrBougo> I don't see it D:
21:15 <MrBougo> oh, on google.ca
21:15 <MrBougo> he has a funny facd
21:15 <MrBougo> face*
21:15 <MrBougo> OMG VANHAYES_
21:15 <MrBougo> OMFG
21:15 <MrBougo> http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291
21:16 <MrBougo> he looks completely lost though
21:16 <Vanhayes_> ha i guess he had to wear a shirt, looks like a wedding
21:17 <MrBougo> maybe he had a little bucket of water in his pocket
21:17 <MrBougo> just in case
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21:30 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [server-browser] r21 Add option to query other master server to server_list.php || [server-browser] r20 Remove stray server_details class || [server-browser] r19 Hide server details when refreshing entire list. It flickers...
21:42 <PinkTomato> Armagetron 0.2.8 latest uses ZThreads? Was not changed?
21:43 <dlh> ZThreads is not required.
21:44 <Luke-Jr> PinkTomato: I added pthreads support, but it is buggy
21:44 <Luke-Jr> so not used by default
21:44 <PinkTomato> Ah right, I'll get Zthreads then to make login nice.
21:46 <PinkTomato> Aah, some kind of compile error
21:48 <PinkTomato> ../include/zthread/Guard.h:494: error: there are no arguments to 'isDisabled' that depend on a template parameter, so a declaration of 'isDisabled' must be available
21:48 <PinkTomato> assuming it is due to a too new GCC
21:48 <PinkTomato> if you use '-fpermissive', G++ will accept your code, but allowing the use of an undeclared name is deprecated
21:49 <PinkTomato> Can anyone tell me how to do that with a ./configure thingy please?
21:52 <Luke-Jr> lulz
21:56 <PinkTomato> I really don't know what difference it makes, I rememebered it was CXXFLAGS
22:11 <Vanhayes_> #si fort
22:11 <Vanhayes_> .si fort
22:11 <tronner> Vanhayes_: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (13/32): .×] Hoax, ct~orly?, DOS, Pichukid456, QUBIT, sunnyboy, sunnygirl, SunnyKid (Gonzap@ct), Vanhayes, ~*Delta*~, ~*dEmOnIk*~ (Demon@forums), ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~zion
22:13 <Vanhayes_> ah ok, so hide ID does hied from here
22:17 <PinkTomato> .si pinktomato
22:17 <tronner> PinkTomato: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “pinktomato” at the moment, sorry.
22:17 <PinkTomato> .si PinkTomato
22:17 <tronner> PinkTomato: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “pinktomato” at the moment, sorry.
22:17 <PinkTomato> .si Ladle 23
22:17 <tronner> PinkTomato: Ladle 23 (Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats) [ATL]: Players (0/32):
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22:37 <epsy> I think I just trolled the chan :x
22:37 <ct|kyle> lol
22:40 <epsy> I just found a bug earlier today
22:40 <epsy> [20:43] <@epsy>: !add fort fort fort fort
22:40 <epsy> [20:43] <@ArmaPickupBot>: Fortress game ready to start!
22:45 <ct|kyle> so what's the story part 2 of python today epsy?
22:45 <epsy> I already said the config parsers suck?
22:45 <ct|kyle> yes
22:45 <ct|kyle> that was part 1
22:46 <ct|kyle> that is probably why I never used them :P
22:47 <epsy> yeah I'm looking forward for a simple command to reload config and do the necessary stuff with the least interrupt
22:47 <PinkTomato> epsy, making a competiton serveR?
22:47 <epsy> pickup channel
22:47 <PinkTomato> pickup channel?
22:49 <epsy> ct|kyle, can you explain him ? :P
22:52 <epsy> sounds like he can't
22:53 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: its a channel to pickup players to go play
22:53 <epsy> PinkTomato, people gather in the channel. Whenever one wants to play an organised games, he !add's for the game[s] he wants to play.
22:53 <PinkTomato> Is it on armagetronad?
22:53 <epsy> Once there are enough players the bot chooses captains and then they decide of the teams
22:53 <PinkTomato> or IRC?
22:53 <epsy> yes
22:53 <PinkTomato> So you'll use MOVE_TO?
22:53 <epsy> it will be at #armagetron.pickup
22:53 <PinkTomato> oh, I see
22:54 <epsy> Active staffer applications welcome :)
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22:57 <PinkTomato> I wonder if you could use AJAX to draw a Armagetron game the website is watching
22:58 <epsy> probably, with chrome or google's DRI-for-JS API it should be fast enough
22:58 <dlh> Yes, and someone already did
22:58 <dlh> It was a hacky way to do it though
22:58 <PinkTomato> dlh, wasn't that an png? or is that practically the same thing?
22:59 <dlh> It was SVG images updated at a small interval
23:01 <PinkTomato> I was thinking if you used AJAX, then you wouldn't need to resend the data already there.
23:02 <PinkTomato> but on second thoughts, I doubt resending causes much of a problem
23:03 <dlh> The images where updated using AJAX.
23:03 <dlh> were*
23:04 <PinkTomato> were they? Oh, hehe.
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23:13 <Gud> the Mac OS X download link is broken http://armagetronad.net/downloads.php
23:13 <Gud> seems all links are broken
23:14 <PinkTomato> Gud, I think sourceforge is down
23:14 <Gud> damn
23:14 <Gud> anyone willing to dcc me the dmg-file?
23:14 <Gud> watched tron yesterday, worse then I remembered but it reminded me of this game
23:15 <PinkTomato> Gud,some reason using http://sourceforge.net/projects/armagetronad/files/ works
23:15 <Gud> PinkTomato: thanks
23:15 <PinkTomato> Gud, no problem, should that fail, you can try the beta here: http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.2.8&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=Mac+OS+X&arch=x86&bitness=_64&format=#download
23:16 <Gud> PinkTomato: worked fine, ty
23:17 <PinkTomato> So sourceforge updated and broke a whole load of Download links across open-source projects? What a smart idea...
23:17 <PinkTomato> I wondered why ZThreads failed earlier
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01:12 <noob13> .sd fort
01:12 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (10/14): !*!*!SWISS!*!*!, André, °BS~t°|Néró, º1337ºASSASSI, cacamuelle, NaPoR, oGRe, twitch, xine, ~>xP.DaWg
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01:28 <madmax> I don't get the crazy idea of a bowl being a ladle
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01:28 <madmax> isn't the bowl supposed to be seasonal and not a scaled up ladle? :(
01:31 <PinkTomato> isn't the bowl supposed to be bigger?
01:34 <madmax> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle "monthly version of the tronic"
01:34 <madmax> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Bowl "seasonal version of the tronic"
01:35 <Flex> what don't you get madmax?
01:35 <Flex> the idea is to have the seasonal's to be more important than the monthly ones
01:36 <Flex> just like a tourny hosted every year, but mini tournies every month while everyone waits for the anual one
01:36 <Flex> unless i've got this all mixed up
01:36 <madmax> I'm talking about the bowl 1 == ladle 22 aspect of it
01:37 <Flex> like someone can say... i've one 100 ladles, and someone else can say.. i've won 50 bowls and everyone would know bowls had more teams in team
01:37 <Flex> guess we just don't see any difference, because it never broke that 32 teams goal
01:38 <Flex> one = won
01:38 <Flex> correct me if my idea of all this is wrong..
01:39 <Flex> i haven't figured out what tronic is though
01:41 <madmax> no, I'm not saying otherwise. I just think that the bowl/ladle should be separated, why say the 22nd ladle was a bowl...
01:42 <madmax> tronic is the ideology \o/
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03:19 <dlh> likes hosting Unnamed Servers... 11 of them right now.
03:30 <ct|kyle> .dns
03:30 <tronner> ct|kyle: rrcs-24-123-46-132.central.biz.rr.com
03:47 <Flex> .ls flex
03:47 <tronner> Flex: Flex seems to be on Ladle 23 (Flex's Server) right now.
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03:49 <Vanhayes_> #ad
03:49 <Vanhayes_> #as
03:49 <Vanhayes_> .as
03:49 <Vanhayes_> @as
03:49 <Vanhayes_> ]as
03:49 <teabot> Vanhayes_: This data is 48 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (9/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), -=}ID< Clan Presents<-=}Flower Power< (7/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/16), ~Rapid Fire~ -=DogFight=- (6/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (6/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (4/8), tronners->racing (4/10), (1 more message)
03:49 <ljrbot> Vanhayes_: Error: "as" is not a valid command.
03:54 <Vanhayes_> where did armabot go again?
03:58 <Vanhayes_> Flex, ping
03:58 <Flex> you guys killed it
03:58 <Flex> obviously
03:58 <Vanhayes_> why are you and dubs in your server and not playing?
04:27 <Flex> urm, because I'm configuring the server for Ladle, so I don't have to do it later, with errors. Then we were going to play, but I got busy.. anyway you're there playing.. with them all now?
04:33 <Flex> Vanhayes_, refresh your browser..
04:33 <Flex> had to turn it on
04:34 <Vanhayes_> just did
04:34 <Vanhayes_> Flex, still not there
04:34 <Flex> .ls flex
04:34 <tronner> Flex: Flex has last been seen on Ladle 23 (Flex's Server) 2 minutes ago.
04:35 <Flex> urm, wait a bit
04:35 <Vanhayes_> whats the ip?
04:35 <Flex> .ls flex
04:35 <tronner> Flex: Flex has last been seen on Ladle 23 (Flex's Server) 3 minutes ago.
04:35 <Flex> urm, i'm in it..
04:35 <Flex> just look again
04:36 <Vanhayes_> there it is
04:36 <Flex> :D
04:36 <ct|kyle> Flex: what's the rinclude
04:37 <Flex> for the ladle server?
04:37 <ct|kyle> ya, found it :P
04:38 <Flex> i uploaded it to the server.. is that alright?
04:38 <Flex> you guys aren't going to add anything to the cfg
04:38 <ct|kyle> essentually that is what rinclude does
04:39 <ct|kyle> it's just easier to use that in my opinion :P
04:40 <Flex> true, but what i meant was.. i'm including it, instead of rincluding it
04:40 <Flex> so won't be updated.. or whatever
04:40 <ct|kyle> .si  2
04:40 <tronner> ct|kyle: Flynn\'s Arcade #2 (Brakes) - .:Avl:. Clan Nano: Players (0/8):
04:40 <ct|kyle> .si ct 2
04:40 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “ct 2” at the moment, sorry.
04:42 <ct|kyle> .si server 2
04:42 <tronner> ct|kyle: Ladle 23 (Crazy Tronners Server 2): Players (0/26):
04:42 <ct|kyle> I'll let K-yo touch the other one :P
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06:07 <Durka> TESTING
06:07 <Flex> 123
06:08 <Durka> .randomteam aw,arrow,cta,ctb,ds,fcwt,id,plus,sp,sg,unk,tx1,tx2,vcl,ww,pru,rt
06:08 <tronner> Durka: Team 1: ctb, Team 2: unk, Team 3: vcl, Team 4: plus, Team 5: pru, Team 6: ds, Team 7: ww, Team 8: cta, Team 9: aw, Team 10: fcwt, Team 11: sp, Team 12: id, Team 13: tx1, Team 14: sg, Team 15: rt, Team 16: tx2, Team 17: arrow,
06:08 <Durka> ok thats the right command
06:08 <Durka> :P
06:08 <Durka> ok Flex type .roulette
06:08 <Flex> .roulette
06:08 <tronner> Flex: *click*
06:08 <Durka> i'll do the randomizing
06:09 <Durka> then type .roulette when im done to signify the end
06:09 <Durka> .randomteam aw,arrow,cta,ctb,ds,fcwt,id,plus,sp,sg,unk,tx1,tx2,vcl,ww,pru,rt
06:09 <tronner> Durka: Team 1: sp, Team 2: plus, Team 3: arrow, Team 4: pru, Team 5: fcwt, Team 6: ctb, Team 7: cta, Team 8: sg, Team 9: aw, Team 10: id, Team 11: rt, Team 12: ww, Team 13: tx2, Team 14: unk, Team 15: ds, Team 16: vcl, Team 17: tx1,
06:09 <Flex> now?
06:09 <Durka> yea
06:09 <Flex> .roulette
06:09 <tronner> Flex: *click*
06:09 <Flex> phew
06:09 <Durka> its just tradition :P
06:09 <Flex> never did it before..
06:09 <Durka> alright, im entering the teams into the bracket
06:09 <Durka> based on the team #'s
06:09 <Flex> at least i didn't get shot
06:09 <Durka> 2 vs 15, etc
06:09 <Durka> u cant get kicked cuz tronner's not /op'd
06:10 <Flex> bullets hurt
06:12 <Flex> what's the principles on how the teams get listed..
06:12 <Flex> i thought it was straight 1-x, up to down..
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06:13 <Durka> Flex: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Template:Ladle23Bracketv2
06:13 <Durka> thats how the seeds go
06:14 <Durka> like a normal tourney
06:15 <Flex> so urm.. sp is playing vcl or tx1?
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06:17 <Durka> ye
06:17 <Durka> a
06:17 <Durka> i need to change Pink Tomatoe server
06:18 <Durka> cuz the teams playing there are PRU and TX2
06:18 <Durka> both are over half euro
06:18 <Durka> pru is totally
06:18 <Durka> tx2 is 2/3
06:18 <Durka> they'll use CT2
06:18 <Flex> hehe sp would have had likely reached the finals with the first list..
06:19 <Durka> lol
06:19 <Durka> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Template:Ladle23Bracketv2
06:19 <Durka> brb
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06:36 <Durka> yo
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08:20 <Lucifer> I think that for the last two weeks, I've just averaged more sex than I did in any two week period the last 9 years of my marriage, and I still don't have a girlfriend
08:20 <Lucifer> being single is awesome
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08:44 <Luke-Jr> if sex is the entire purpose of life maybe
08:58 <Lucifer> sex may not be the purpose of life, and neither is freedom, but freedom to enjoy sex is a wonderful thing
09:10 <Lucifer> ok, it has begun
09:10 <Lucifer> I've applied for the job
09:10 <Lucifer> we'll see how it goes.....
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10:19 <Lucifer> #ping
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18:58 <Durka> z-man-work: ping?
19:00 <Durka> .lastseen fofo
19:00 <tronner> Durka: .x] FoFo seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
19:09 <Durka> oO
19:09 <ct|kyle> o0 Durka?
19:09 <Durka> \O_oi
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19:09 <Durka> .kill epsy
19:09 <Durka> .epsy epsy
19:10 <Durka> =/
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19:54 <sunny> hey guys
19:55 <Luke-Jr> no u
19:55 <sunny> ?
19:55 <PinkTomato> hey
19:56 <sunny> how are you?
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19:58 <PinkTomato> good you?
19:59 <sunny> yea, im fine, the weather is so nice
19:59 <madmax> yello
19:59 <sunny> :)
19:59 <PinkTomato> I can agree to that
19:59 <PinkTomato> ]weather Brighton, UK
19:59 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 81.7°F (6:59 PM BST on July 02, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady).
20:00 <sunny> I'm in Hull for 8 weeks :)
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20:01 <PinkTomato> Ooo, not been there
20:01 <PinkTomato> I imagine it is hotter there
20:01 <PinkTomato> ]weather Hull, UK
20:01 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
20:02 <sunny> not a really nice city xD
20:02 <sunny> maybe 25-30 °C
20:03 <Durka> .help randomteam
20:03 <tronner> Durka: (randomteam <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random.php?teams=$*".
20:04 <PinkTomato> It is cooler at the sea at the momenmt
20:04 <PinkTomato> and it is still hot!
20:04 <sunny> i enjoy the weather, i love the sun hihi
20:04 <PinkTomato> The people so many miles north must be sweltering!
20:05 <PinkTomato> I like a little sun, the UK is just the right temperature for me at summer.
20:06 <sunny> i was in greek on holidays in the end of may, there the weather was nice :) and if it get too hot you jump into the pool^^
20:08 <PinkTomato> hehe, I suppose, would be nice to go to the pool actually, not been in ages
20:08 <sunny> yea
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21:29 <Vanhayes> #as
21:29 <Vanhayes> .as
21:29 <Vanhayes> ]as
21:29 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "as" is not a valid command.
21:29 <Vanhayes> @as
21:29 <teabot> Vanhayes: This data is 21 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (14/14), Wild West  =Sumo= (12/16), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (10/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted.¦Ã¦ats.TeamSumo (EU) [Ã. (10/18), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (8/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), (2 more messages)
21:29 <Vanhayes> argh so many bots
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23:35 <Flex> G5, did Durka speak to you?
23:35 <G5> He wrote an e-mail and I answering it right now
23:35 <Flex> oh cool, sorted then?
23:36 <G5> Yes, u can have DS Mega Fort for the ladle ...
23:37 <G5> Im just disappointed ...
23:37 <Flex> urm, why?
23:37 <G5> The server was available (offered) for 2 (or 3) ladles ... and it was never used. So I removed it from the list ... why do u want it now?
23:38 <Flex> are you specifically pointing to me, when you say 'you'? because it was Durka who wanted it..
23:38 <G5> No, not u specifically ...
23:39 <Flex> i don't know what the past ladles were, regarding server choices.. but this time Durka spoke to me, and we chose servers in advance, for each bracket
23:40 <Flex> we agreed, both europeans and americans agree with your server being the best choice
23:40 <sunny> freu dich doch einfach
23:41 <Flex> hay! english only!
23:41 <sunny> du kennst kenst das doch die collen werden zeurst genommen und dann merkt man die anderen sind doch besser ;)
23:41 <sunny> sry flex :P
23:41 <G5> Hi Sunny ...
23:41 <PinkTomato> where did my server go?
23:42 <Flex> what'd you say sunny?
23:42 <sunny> i motivated g5 :D
23:42 <G5> Sunny said I should be happy my server was chosen ... she thinks Im too pessimistic
23:42 <Flex> yeah, i don't know what the preferences are.. but they change, people play on it now and notice it works well
23:43 <Flex> plus servers get better/worse as it goes
23:43 <sunny> nein g5 diesmal hab ich es nich so gemeint
23:43 <G5> I worked as well when it had a different name ;)
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23:44 <G5> Sunny: I just came from a visit to a local beer garden, so Im really happy and very optimisic now :)
23:44 <Flex> have you tried my paris one? i think it's quite good
23:44 <epsy> @ls flex
23:44 <epsy> er
23:44 <teabot> epsy: ~*Flex*~ has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress 11 minutes ago.
23:44 <epsy> @sd flex
23:44 <teabot> epsy: Ladle 23 (Flex's Server): Players (0/32):
23:45 <Flex> haven't seen any french players, yet
23:45 <Flex> i think
23:45 <G5> Flex: Not yet ... but Paris is a good location I think
23:45 <epsy> ping :>
23:45 <Flex> but me and dubstep get like 30-40ms
23:45 <G5> Flex: London would be nice too
23:45 <sunny> yea
23:45 <sunny> atm xD f
23:45 <Flex> the london one, was nice ping for me.. but the server kept lagging.. i blame luke's set up
23:45 <epsy> 12ms ping
23:46 <Flex> gz
23:46 <Flex> it easly handles 12vs12
23:46 <Flex> haven't experienced any hic-ups at all, so i'm happy
23:46 <epsy> the bot isnt even getting a lagometer at all
23:47 <G5> 38 ms for me ... thats fine
23:47 <G5> 7 ms for epsy :)
23:47 <Flex> ouch
23:47 <epsy> have you connected?
23:49 <G5> 35-45 it is for me. Thats o
23:49 <G5> k
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23:52 <Flex> hai
23:52 <dubStep> \o
23:52 <Flex> paris location seems pretty good for euro's
23:52 <Flex> fuck the americans :D
23:52 <dubStep> lol
23:53 <epsy> moreover it's a good location for epsy
23:53 <dubStep> is maz euro?
23:53 <Flex> yeah
23:53 <epsy> finnish
23:53 <dubStep> cool we only have 2 ppl that arent eu then
23:53 <Flex> what part of france, epsy?
23:53 <dubStep> :p
23:53 <epsy> paris, obviousely
23:53 <dubStep> lol
23:53 <dubStep> what ping did you have?
23:54 <dubStep> didnt look :/
23:54 <Flex> he reached 7..
23:54 <dubStep> sweet
23:54 <Flex> mine, i think was just outside london..
23:55 <Flex> i think it should be for semi's but durka thinks american's prefer ds fort, atm
23:55 <dubStep> hmm
23:56 <dubStep> meh it doesnt make much of a diff to eu so it really should be up to them
23:56 <Flex> where is g5's?
23:56 <dubStep> germany
23:56 <G5> Here ... on his way to bed
23:56 <dubStep> idk where
23:56 <dubStep> lol hey
23:56 <Flex> what part?
23:57 <G5> Stuttgart (south west)
23:57 <Flex> friend that lives, there.. i'll come visit the server!
23:57 <dubStep> lol!
23:57 <dubStep> hes going to sabotage it so they have to use his for semis
23:57 <dubStep> :p
23:57 <Flex> oh yeah!
23:57 <G5> Flex: My server? Is in Frankfurt
23:58 <Flex> ah, same as z-man's then
23:58 <sunny> and i will move to munich yeaaaaaaaaaaa
23:58 <dubStep> hey sunny :)
23:58 <sunny> hey dub :)
23:59 <dubStep> Vanhayes: !
23:59 <Flex> in logic.. paris should be better for the americans
23:59 <Flex> and the euro's

Log from 2009-07-03:
--- Day changed Fri Jul 03 2009
00:00 <dubStep> .sl
00:00 <tronner> dubStep: This data is 44 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), |FA| Black Tar! (8/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (7/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), WILDCAT (6/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (5/32), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (4/16), Wild (2 more messages)
00:00 <dubStep> .more
00:00 <tronner> dubStep: West  =Nano CTF=  ~Multi~Mode~ (4/10), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (4/10), tronners->racing (3/10), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (3/8), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (2/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 2 (2/4), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY High Speed) <<< (2/12), internalDrive -=- iD Tech Camps (2/16), Flynn's Arcade #2 (Brakes) - .:Avl:. Clan Nano (1/8), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (1/12), (1 more message)
00:00 <Flex> .more
00:00 <Flex> do more
00:00 <Flex> dubs
00:00 <dubStep> .more
00:00 <tronner> dubStep: -=Wild Fox=- High Rubber (1/16)
00:00 <dubStep> lol
00:00 <dubStep> only 1
00:00 <dubStep> ^^
00:01 <dubStep> no ineteresting servers...
00:01 <dubStep> .si wild
00:01 <tronner> dubStep: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Players (7/10): .Nbk.new divde, Blast-burnX, BoXeD, gArIsImO, mr Z, Shade, _~Into a boat~_
00:01 <dubStep> boo
00:01 <dubStep> .si wild fortress
00:01 <tronner> dubStep: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (5/14): Binford, freetosk8brd (freetosk8brd@ct), laDders, Miss Swiss, niro
00:02 <dubStep> nty dev null is there :/
00:02 <dubStep> oh god and mk
00:04 <sunny> i go to bed, good night all :) *wave*
00:04 <PinkTomato> night ^^
00:04 <G5> good night
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00:06 <G5> Flex: Ok, server is set up ... but I'll change the name on Sunday, ok?
00:06 <Flex> great
00:06 <Flex> it's ladle23-3.cfg
00:06 <Flex> right
00:06 <Flex> t
00:06 <G5> yes
00:09 <G5> Is there any major change in the setup?
00:10 <Flex> not that i can think of
00:10 <Flex> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=19401&start=45
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00:11 <Durka> \o
00:14 <G5> Hi Durka ... DS Mega Fort is on ladle23-3 (with minor overwrites) now. Ill change the name on sunday
00:15 <Durka> what minor overwrites? o_O
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00:16 <G5> Several USER_LEVEL ... Ill remove them on Sunday.
00:17 <Sticky__> Flex: did you ever get your server running?
00:18 <Flex> yeah, durka helped out
00:18 <G5> Ok, bed time for me. Bye all!
00:18 <Sticky__> what was wrong with it?
00:18 <dubStep> night
00:18 <Flex> urm, installed it wrong, i think
00:18 <Durka> o ok
00:19 <Durka> hi Sticky__ :)
00:19 <Flex> check it out, Sticky__ it's decent
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00:19 <Sticky__> yo
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00:20 <dubStep> Vanhayes: u there?
00:22 -!- Durka is now known as Vanhayes_
00:22 <Vanhayes_> yea dubStep what u need?
00:22 <dubStep> ...
00:23 <Flex> lol
00:23 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Durka
00:23 <dubStep> gay...
00:23 <Flex> you'd rather do this gay stuff than than what i asked, Durka? :P
00:23 <dubStep> lol
00:23 <Flex> you homo
00:23 <Vanhayes> dubStep!
00:24  * dubStep is on top of Durka
00:24 <dubStep> hey
00:24 <PinkTomato> hey
00:24 <Vanhayes> what did i wlak into?
00:24 <Flex> like, on top of his face?
00:24 <Vanhayes> walk*
00:24 <dubStep> lol
00:24 <dubStep> heh
00:24 <dubStep> shush
00:24 <Durka> lol Flex
00:24 <dubStep> do you know people positions yet?
00:24 <dubStep> peoples*
00:24 <Flex> shall i recommend some?
00:24 <dubStep> bmg.
00:24 <Flex> actually, never mind
00:25 <dubStep> lol no
00:25 <dubStep> say what u have to say...
00:25 <Flex> no, i might get blamed
00:25 <dubStep> ...
00:25 <Flex> :p
00:25 <dubStep> scared?
00:25 <Flex> yes.. :(
00:25 <Vanhayes> not those kind of positions
00:25 <dubStep> pathetic
00:25 <Flex> hah
00:25 <dubStep> lol!
00:25 <Flex> 2 girls 4 guys..
00:25 <dubStep> dont...
00:25 <Vanhayes> tag team
00:26 <dubStep> -.-'
00:26 <Vanhayes> and now on to actual positions
00:26 <Flex> you guys should feel lucky... it's probably all guys on all the other teams
00:26 <dubStep> lol no
00:26 <Flex> even if you don't get some! you get to have a look!
00:26 <dubStep> ...
00:27  * Flex gets coat
00:27 <Vanhayes> max says he wants to attack, sunny said pos. 2 so attack as well, you want sweeper, just need to find out what MaZuffeR__ !!, and gari want to play
00:27 <Vanhayes> ill take whatever is left
00:27 <Durka> as long as max isnt defense I'm happy
00:27 <Flex> .ls garisimo
00:27 <dubStep> what do you wana play
00:27 <tronner> Flex: gArIsImO seems to be on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= right now.
00:27 <Durka> as long as max isn't offense I'm happy
00:27 <Durka> as long as max isn't sweeper I'm happy
00:27 <Durka> as long as max isn't center I'm happy
00:27 <dubStep> ha
00:27 <dubStep> if we play tx max is def
00:27 <dubStep> =P
00:27 <Vanhayes> as long as max isnt playing you are happy then?
00:27 <dubStep> lmao durka
00:27 <Durka> as long as max isn't midfield I'm happy
00:28 <Durka> as long as max isn't playing I'm happy
00:28 <Durka> yes van :D
00:28 <Flex> so max should spec?
00:28 <Vanhayes> well i think we have a pretty good chance of winning our first round
00:28 <dubStep> lol
00:28 <dubStep> yea
00:28 <Durka> as long as max is spec I'm happy
00:28 <Flex> if you lose.. haa..
00:28 <dubStep> durka is such a baby =P
00:28 <Vanhayes> supergays just dont sound very threatening
00:28 <Durka> :D
00:28 <Durka> saswhorey is on super gays
00:28 <Vanhayes> then again they are super so you never know
00:28 <dubStep> no
00:28 <Vanhayes> she is gay?
00:29 <dubStep> lol...
00:29 <Vanhayes> or maybe she is super, otherwise i call foul on that team
00:29 <Flex> lol
00:29 <dubStep> lol @ super
00:29 <dubStep> super bitch maybe
00:30 <Vanhayes> and unless vcl got alot better then they were at fort, i think we will face sp in 2nd round
00:30 <Flex> aww how nice
00:30 <Flex> no wait.. you don't realise
00:30 <Durka> thnx van :(
00:30 <Vanhayes> so an easy two games
00:30 <Flex> it's vcl vs trx1
00:30 <Durka> tx1*
00:30 <Flex> then it's sp vs whoever wins out of them
00:30 <Flex> which, likely would be sp vs tx1
00:31 <Flex> a 60% chance tx1 wins.. :p
00:31 <Flex> na lets go 55%
00:31 <Vanhayes> 51% to be fair
00:31 <Durka> betting against urself pete rose?
00:31 <Durka> hmm
00:31 <Flex> alright, thanks
00:31 <Flex> yeah, so i can try extra hard
00:32 <Flex> just for you durka
00:32 <dubStep> Vanhayes: gari said he'll sweep or def
00:32 <Vanhayes> ok then, now just MaZuffeR__ !!!! left
00:32 <Flex> he's always sweeped :p
00:32 <Vanhayes> yes and is damn good at it
00:32 <dubStep> gayness... which means i have to attack
00:32 <Flex> that's hawt
00:33 <Vanhayes> ill say either gari or maz def, then the other sweep, ill attack/midfield
00:33 <Flex> i would go with mazuffer defending
00:33 <dubStep> yea
00:33 <Vanhayes> me too
00:33 <Flex> but maybe gari defending on the first round, if he does fine.. let him take the whole super gay match
00:33 <Vanhayes> MaZuffeR__,
00:33 <Flex> then switch maz
00:33 <Flex> for the next game, against trx
00:34 <Vanhayes> so its vcl vs tx and sp get a semi buy?
00:34 <dubStep> flex make a vent/ts
00:34 <Flex> no buys..
00:34 <Flex> they're just having an early match
00:34 <Vanhayes> 18 teams on the board, and only 16 first round brackets so....
00:35 <Flex> ahh durka..
00:35 <Durka> bye*
00:35 <Vanhayes> i like buy
00:35 <Durka> i didnt wanna make a 32 team bracket for 2 matches
00:35 <Durka> :D
00:35  * Durka saves trees
00:35 <dubStep> buy yourself a dictionary
00:35 <Vanhayes> as in ill buy that third round seeding for 5 bucks
00:35 <Flex> that technically means.. tr plays DS or brokensilence
00:35 <Durka> no?
00:36 <Flex> yes.. tx1 was on 16th?
00:36 <Vanhayes> well the first brackets say sp vs vcl/tx1 so what does that mean?
00:36 <Vanhayes> tx1 or vcl have to play 2 matches to get out of the first round?
00:36 <Flex> Team 16: vcl, Team 17: tx1,
00:36 <Flex> team 18 should be whoever else joined last
00:37 <dubStep> huh
00:37 <Durka> 18 plays 15
00:37 <Durka> BS vs DS
00:37 <Vanhayes> what is BS again? i just call them bullshit but i doubt thats what they call themselves
00:37 <Flex> broken silence
00:37 <dubStep> lmao
00:37 <Durka> broken silence
00:38 <dubStep> they kinda asked for it with that tag
00:38 <Vanhayes> people need to be more creative with their clan names
00:38 <Flex> Durka, you're not making any sense..
00:38 <Flex> it's not BS vs DS.. it's Plus vs BS
00:38 <dubStep> no plus vs DS
00:38 <Vanhayes> like those guys taking Fortress elite, and none of them really play fortress
00:38 <Flex> shut up!
00:38 <dubStep> it is
00:38 <Flex> no..
00:38 <dubStep> 1st round is plus vs DS
00:38 <Durka> its BS vs DS
00:38 <Durka> ;dslfjaspdofija
00:38 <Flex> OMG
00:38 <dubStep> what
00:38 <Durka> then winner plays plus
00:38 <Flex> stop fucking making it gay
00:38 <Flex> no durka..
00:39 <dubStep> lol
00:39 <Durka> yes Flex..
00:39 <dubStep> so...
00:39 <Vanhayes> see 2 teams have to play 2 games in the first round
00:39 <Flex> Team 16: vcl, Team 17: tx1, TEAM 18: DS
00:39 <Durka> 4 teams van
00:39 <dubStep> bs/ds/tx1 have to play more matches than everyone else?
00:39 <Durka> team 18 is bs
00:39 <Durka> team 15 is ds
00:39 <Flex> so those two extra teams.. should play each other on opening round 18:45 GMT
00:39 <Vanhayes> no, 2 cause the other 2 would be knocked out
00:39 <Durka> er yea techinically van
00:39 <dubStep> yea, i mean or
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00:40 <dubStep> since, they have to play a match to get into the 1st round in essence
00:40 <dubStep> least thats what it sounds like
00:40 <PinkTomato> how else can you do it though?
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00:40 <Vanhayes> kill the extra teams
00:40 <PinkTomato> -.-
00:40 <dubStep> lol
00:41 <Flex> ok nm
00:41 <Vanhayes> hey i dont here you throwing any ideas out there
00:41 <Flex> this way is fine
00:41 <Flex> unless there's a better logical way to do it, PinkTomato is right
00:41 <Flex> never thought about it..
00:41 <PinkTomato> Only way to do it fair is with a league
00:41 <PinkTomato> and that needs time
00:42 <Flex> Durka, nm doesn't matter
00:42 <Flex> if one extra team or two doesn't join, it won't work
00:42 <Flex> i think?
00:42 <Durka> what won't work?
00:43 <Flex> nothing
00:43 <Vanhayes> just slip them some poison in their coffee, and the problem goes away
00:43 <dubStep> lol...
00:43 <Durka> if theres more than 16 teams ur kinda screwed i guess
00:43 <Durka> w/e
00:43 <Vanhayes> well need to go up another 4 i think
00:43 <Flex> or you could just say.. you can't play biatches.. full.. kktanksbi
00:43 <Durka> LOL
00:43 <dubStep> lol
00:44 <Durka> no need to go up another 16 to make it fair
00:44 <Durka> 2, 4, 8, 16, 32
00:44 <Durka> etc
00:44 <Durka> those are the only ones that are 100% fair
00:44 <PinkTomato> have a 16 team limit?
00:44 <Vanhayes> ok lets all split up into teams of 3 then
00:44 <Flex> lol
00:44 <Vanhayes> or one huge one on one tourney
00:44 <Durka> no
00:44 <dubStep> lol.
00:44 <Durka> more games = more fun?
00:44 <Durka> right?
00:44 <Durka> :D
00:45 <Flex> you want to fight about it?
00:45 <Vanhayes> @g 18 * 6
00:45 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:18-crown-6-potassium-3D-vdW-B.png - File:18-crown-6-potassium-3D-vdW-B.png - Wikimedia Commons
00:45 <PinkTomato> what is the first round wins to?
00:45 <Flex> 3
00:45 <Vanhayes> ]g 18 * 6
00:45 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "g" is not a valid command.
00:45 <Durka> 2
00:45 <Vanhayes> .g 18 * 6
00:46 <dubStep> 3 or 2
00:46 <Vanhayes> @calc 18*6
00:46 <PinkTomato> maybe you could make them go faster
00:46 <teabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:46 <dubStep> .ping
00:46 <tronner> pong
00:46 <dubStep> hmm
00:46 <Vanhayes> @calc 18 * 6
00:46 <Durka> 2
00:46 <teabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:46 <Vanhayes> you suck google
00:46 <dubStep> lol
00:46 <PinkTomato> adding an extra 45 minutes to the ladle for some people sounds like a lot to me
00:47 <dubStep> make em start at 5.15
00:47 <dubStep> =P
00:47 <Flex> or a day in advance
00:47 <Durka> yea but its only 4 teams
00:47 <dubStep> nah
00:47 <Durka> van its like this
00:47 <Durka> @calc 18*6
00:47 <teabot> Durka: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:47 <Durka> or not..
00:47 <dubStep> haha
00:47 <Vanhayes> i did that
00:47 <dubStep> denied.
00:47 <Vanhayes> anyways its 108
00:47 <Vanhayes> had to use ms calculator
00:48 <dubStep> ^^
00:48 <PinkTomato> You could do something radical
00:48 <Flex> it's first to 2, yeah
00:48 <Vanhayes> best of 3
00:48 <PinkTomato> like a time_limit, and then take the scores.
00:48 <Vanhayes> we talked about time limits
00:49 <PinkTomato> well, I mean, 20 minute game.
00:49 <Flex> in total?
00:49 <PinkTomato> 304 points CT, 280 TX
00:49 <dubStep> not enough time
00:49 <PinkTomato> add more, example this is
00:49 <Vanhayes> i say make an hour long game, no score limit most points win at the end
00:49 <Flex> hey, i have an idea worked up, i was just tweaking it a bit before posting
00:49 <Vanhayes> then for the finals bump it to 90 mins
00:49 <Flex> i could post it now, and you guys can have a look
00:49 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes, that's a better way of putting it, just shorter times
00:50 <PinkTomato> Only problem is you need excactly 6 players a team
00:50 <PinkTomato> overwise it is not fair
00:50 <Vanhayes> well most single matches go for a half hour or more, so 2=1hou
00:50 <Vanhayes> r
00:50 <dubStep> but time limit means no comebacks
00:50 <dubStep> arrow are the masters of comebacks...
00:50 <Vanhayes> time limit means huge comebacks
00:50 <dubStep> no...
00:50 <PinkTomato> It can do
00:50 <Vanhayes> one team hits 100, with 20 mins to go....
00:51 <PinkTomato> You could do a speedy first round with a time limit
00:51 <Vanhayes> im saying just time limit no poit limit
00:51 <Durka> Vanhayes: I found the command
00:51 <PinkTomato> and then go on the traditional route with the players with the highest points
00:51 <Durka> -->durkabot: what is 18*6 sir?
00:51 -!- Durka is now known as durkabot
00:51 <durkabot> 108
00:51 <dubStep> so u get rid of limit_score 100
00:51 -!- durkabot is now known as Durka
00:52 <dubStep> lmao durka ur a noob
00:52 <PinkTomato> 108?
00:52 <Durka> =/
00:52 <dubStep> ^^
00:52 <Vanhayes> durkabot what is 76/(87*1.5)
00:52 <dubStep> lool
00:52 <Vanhayes> hurry durkabot i need those answers
00:52 <dubStep> ...durka runs for the calcualtor...
00:52 <PinkTomato> what does 108 represent
00:52 <Vanhayes> how many people are in this ladle
00:52 <Vanhayes> 18 teams of 6
00:52 <PinkTomato> ]calc 6 * 18
00:52 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: 108
00:52 <PinkTomato> oh
00:52 <PinkTomato> haha
00:53 <Vanhayes> ha
00:53 <Vanhayes> ]calc 76/(87*1.5)
00:53 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: 0.582375478927
00:53 <dubStep> yea
00:53 <Vanhayes> ah as i thought it would be
00:53 <dubStep> mad number
00:53 <dubStep> lol
00:54 <dlh> ]calc 1/0.0
00:54 <ljrbot> dlh: Error: float division
00:54 <dlh> :\
00:54 <Vanhayes> heh
00:54 <Flex> urm
00:54 <Flex> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=19436
00:55 <Vanhayes> hmm well what i would like to see for the next ladle anyways, would be to get rid of score limits, go for a set time, the team with most points at the end wins
00:55 <PinkTomato> actually
00:55 <PinkTomato> that has a problem
00:55 <PinkTomato> it won't work
00:55 <PinkTomato> the good teams will lose
00:55 <Vanhayes> Flex, ya we have been toying with the idea for a while, but not alot of people were too open to changing
00:56 <PinkTomato> take two crap teams, they will finish a round in 2 seconds
00:56 <PinkTomato> 10 points per round
00:56 <PinkTomato> two good teams take for fadging ages
00:56 <Flex> this concept, doesn't make rounds longer, but just puts limits on them
00:56 <Durka> g2g
00:56 <Flex> PinkTomato, because they're using the advantage of unlimited time
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00:56 <PinkTomato> and therefore will loose out
00:57 <Flex> that shouldn't be an advantage, that in itself is a form of camping
00:57 <PinkTomato> Flex, a round time is too unstable
00:57 <Flex> define unstable
00:57 <PinkTomato> we will just be back to torpeding each other.
00:57 <dlh> How about we score it like tennis? To win a match you need to be up atleast two sets. So in fortress, to win a match you need to reach the score limit and be ahead by, say, 10 points. Not such a radical change.
00:57 <Flex> that's a fools stratergy.. and can easly be countered
00:57 <PinkTomato> the people that play the game properly loose out
00:58 <PinkTomato> Flex, it speeds the round
00:58 <Flex> dlh, then it will go on for longer?
00:58 <PinkTomato> less players
00:58 <Flex> PinkTomato.. whoever plays properly, never loses out
00:58 <Flex> being a pussy and running away from danger, isn't actually a skill
00:59 <PinkTomato> Flex, long 1 v 1 rounds, the best scenario would be to commit sucide
00:59 <PinkTomato> points per second are better with more players
00:59 <Flex> in a 1 on 1 the guy is focusing on the zone
00:59 <Flex> it's stratergy to defend or sumo
00:59 <Flex> either way..
01:00 <PinkTomato> We can admit though, 2 not so good teams are going to complete their rounds faster than 2 better teams.
01:00 <Flex> time limit is fair, both teams have equal stratergy.. don't think of it as one way of things
01:00 <Flex> PinkTomato, yeah.. the whole point of this time limit thing is to insure these better teams don't take forever
01:00 <Flex> this also increases skill and fortress..
01:01 <PinkTomato> ah, in that case it is fine if you still do it be how many rounds won.
01:01 <Flex> changes a few things, dramatically
01:01 <PinkTomato> if you did it by points at the end of the time limit, that is my issue.
01:01 <Flex> nothing changes, apart from a time limit is added
01:01 <Flex> it would be cool if next tron versions add a timer somewhere
01:01 <Flex> maybe top middle
01:01 <PinkTomato> Well, I am all for that. Flex 0.3
01:01 <PinkTomato> has a timer
01:01 <PinkTomato> although forward only
01:01 <Flex> changing colour red on the last minute
01:02 <PinkTomato> I think you could write a cockpit to do that?
01:02 <dubStep> what if u dont have 0.3
01:02 <PinkTomato> dubStep, upgrade!
01:02 <dubStep> coz most people dont
01:02 <dubStep> no
01:02 <dubStep> i dont like 0.3
01:02 <Flex> yeah, probably just hooks onto the command from the server and displays it on the cockpit
01:02 <PinkTomato> dubStep, well you would need to upgrade to get it anyway
01:02 <Flex> HUD's are in v0.2
01:02 <dubStep> exactly
01:03 <dubStep> u cant force people to upgrade just to play ladle
01:03 <Flex> it's not about upgrading.. they update the cockpit file..
01:03 <Flex> they just add the commands onto the server
01:03 <PinkTomato> dubStep, it is just a fricking timer...
01:03 <Flex> regarding times and such
01:03 <PinkTomato> we won't force you to use our timer to play ladle
01:03 <Flex> lol, it won't even affect her
01:03 <Flex> shh dubs!
01:03 <dubStep> lol then how will u know if u dont have a timer oO
01:04 <Flex> cockpits are used in v0.2 anyway
01:04 <PinkTomato> 0.2.8 warns you about 1 minute left
01:04 <Flex> so it will be updated itself
01:04 <PinkTomato> Flex, are they the same as 0.3?
01:04 <Flex> i don't know.. i don't use it
01:04 <dlh> cockpit files aren't used in 0.2.8
01:04 <PinkTomato> ah
01:04 <Flex> how would we include a timer, in the top middle of the screen, dlh?
01:04 <Vanhayes> could you get a round message to say how much time is left?
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01:05 <Flex> dlh, old clients and new clients?
01:05 <dubStep> console message?
01:05 <dubStep> hey sexi.wav
01:05 <Flex> once the server gets updated, it's only a console command that needs to be read
01:05 <Vanhayes> well im all for a time limit for the match, not sure about rounds though
01:05 <sinewav> hi there sweet thang
01:05 <dlh> 0.3 clients could just use a custom cockpit file, and for older clients send a console message
01:06 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes, a match time limit is harder to implemente
01:06 <Flex> Vanhayes, how long a total match?
01:06 <Flex> that would still affect the rounds
01:06 <PinkTomato> wait, I get confused between round and match
01:06 <sinewav> 12 min
01:06 <Vanhayes> well however long we need it to be
01:07 <PinkTomato> we have 45 minutes right? 45 / 2
01:07 <sinewav> 3
01:07 <Flex> 1minute per round? seems kind of a tiny bit short
01:07 <dubStep> lol sine
01:07 <Vanhayes> say first round of the ladle starts at 5:00 second at 5 45 or 6 00 make it 45 mins-60mins
01:07 <PinkTomato> well 5 minutes to do the usual piss about before getting ready
01:07 <PinkTomato> then 5 minutes to get ready
01:08 <sinewav> LIMIT_TIME 12
01:08 <Vanhayes> should make it a rule you have to start at set time, not show up then
01:08 <Flex> i feel 2.30 or 3minutes seems perfect for each round
01:08 <dubStep> yea
01:08 <PinkTomato> a round time limit, hmm
01:08 <Flex> TIME_LIMIT_ROUND 3
01:08 <Flex> :p
01:08 <sinewav> why round and not match?
01:08 <dubStep> i agree with hayes,for the bowl the times were freakin stupid
01:08 <Vanhayes> thats what im saying
01:08 <Flex> well, a match is 10 rounds..
01:08 <dubStep> people were starting 20/30/40 mins late
01:08 <Flex> so what if 12 minutes is used up on the first round..
01:08 <Flex> lol
01:08 <Vanhayes> id love a match time limit not so hot on the round
01:09 <Flex> how's that going to work?
01:09 <dubStep> what would be the point ending a round without a base being captured?
01:09 <Vanhayes> but id liek to see it be 45 mins for the regular ones, 90 mins for final, one game, not best of 3 or 5 and no score limit
01:09 <sinewav> LIMIT_TIME 720
01:09 <Flex> got to also remember, some rounds don't last that long.. we're only talking MAX limit
01:09 <dubStep> it seems like a waste of time
01:10 <Flex> lets agree, we want 45minutes TIME LIMIT on each bracket..
01:10 <Flex> so 45minutes for 2 or 3 matches
01:10 <PinkTomato> dubStep, the waste of time is waiting for the players to finish their round
01:10 <Vanhayes> yes, then double that for the finals, since it should be longer
01:10 <Flex> right
01:10 <dubStep> then how do you determine who wins if no-one takes any bases during the alotted time?
01:10 <sinewav> ..
01:10 <dubStep> score_kill alone?
01:10 <dubStep> thats stupid
01:10 <Vanhayes> ya, draws are more boring then waiting imo
01:10 <sinewav> arma won't let you tie
01:10 <dubStep> its fortress... therefore the fortress should be involved in the match...
01:10 <Flex> there will be no draws..
01:11 <Flex> 1 team is the attacker
01:11 <Flex> 1 team is the defender
01:11 <Flex> next round it changes
01:11 <dubStep> thats just stupid.
01:11 <Flex> how is that stupid
01:11 <Vanhayes> if there are round time limits its a draw each round if no one gets a base
01:11 <Flex> go look up what "fortress" is
01:11 <dubStep> why would u make it so 1 team attacks one round and the other defends?
01:11 <dubStep> and alternate?
01:11 <Vanhayes> dubStep, that would be really hard to implement right now id think
01:11 <PinkTomato> where do you the defenders go?
01:11 <sinewav> round time limit it ridiv]culous
01:11 <dubStep> what is the point in that?
01:11 <Flex> then we'll be back to square one.. where everyone plays defensive to win the round
01:11 <Flex> that's silly
01:11 <sinewav> ridiculous*
01:11 <PinkTomato> Hoop already made it
01:12 <PinkTomato> it would be easy to hack in an alternate
01:12 <dubStep> so what if people play defensive, are u telling people how they should play now?
01:12 <dubStep> its what wins.
01:12 <sinewav> :o
01:12 <dubStep> not what interests the spectators.
01:12 <sinewav> or players
01:12 <Flex> if you read the thread, it explains mostly everything you're pointing out now
01:13 <Flex> How to decide which team Attacks or Defends first?
01:13 <Flex> Simple! A coin toss is the easist and laziest way, but we don't have that in-game, so another solution is to use ONE round to decide who plays first. The winner of that ONE round decides if they wish to Attack or Counter-Attack. (I don't mean a whole match, I just mean 1 round, which has no time limit.) To be specific; Once both teams have agreed they are ready to start. The "Decider Round" starts. After that, the game is reset and the match starts with
01:13 <dubStep> why? :S
01:13 <dubStep> 6 people attacking one base
01:13 <dubStep> and 6 people defending it?
01:13 <Flex> no..
01:14 <Flex> it's WHO gets the win when the time runs out
01:14 <dubStep> thats what it sounds like...
01:14 <Flex> get it?
01:14 <Flex> it's not 6 people attack.. you're changing the mode of fort if you do that
01:14 <Vanhayes> i get it, and id have to try it before id make a decision
01:14 <dubStep> what do you mean 1 team attacks and 1 defends then?
01:14 <Flex> maybe i think i should explain this, in the thread...
01:15 <Flex> 1 team has the objective to get the zone before the other enemy
01:15 <dubStep> isnt that the whole point anyway?!?
01:15 <dubStep> o_O
01:16 <Flex> if you let me finish..
01:16 <dubStep> well sorry, but there was no elipsis, so i assumed u hd finished...
01:17 <Vanhayes> elipsis is a machine i think
01:17 <dubStep> lol not this again...
01:17 <Flex> the objective of the A team is to attack the enemy zone, before their time runs out. IF B team successfully defends their zone, they get the round win.. because A team's time has run out
01:17 <Flex> you might think.. what if they all defend?
01:18 <Flex> some might play counter-offensive and get the enemy zone..
01:18 <dubStep> how do you set team time limits?
01:18 <Flex> that's server side
01:18 <dubStep> seems a little bit too far fectched to me
01:19 <Flex> some flaws crop up though, such as.. what if teams decide to go full out and create a two-3 layers defence..
01:19 <Flex> just enough to keep the enemies out..
01:19 <Flex> but then comes torpedos
01:19 <epsy> ah
01:19 <Flex> so if you feel like having 6 guys defend.. you're going to get torped
01:19 <epsy> like capturestrike or something?
01:19 <Flex> never heard of that
01:20 <Flex> the idea, is basically.. play normal fort.. or you're going to get counter-ed with something if you use an extreme..
01:20 <dubStep> well if 6 people dont defend what exactly are u meant to do?
01:20 <Flex> like making double defences
01:20 <Flex> PLAY NORMALLY
01:20 <Flex> there's nothing being changed here dubStep..
01:20 <Flex> don't you get stratergy in your head?
01:20 <epsy> well capture strike is a game of CTF played in rounds
01:21 <dubStep> it just comes across as kind of stupid that its forcing a team to take a base or they lose
01:21 <epsy> ie. within some time limit one of the team has to cap
01:21 <Flex> Fortress is kind of about.. taking a base
01:21 <dubStep> yea but it doesnt always happen
01:21 <dubStep> what if they kill everyone on the other team but ont get the base?
01:21 <dubStep> dont*
01:21 <Flex> ...
01:21 <Flex> it's about round victory
01:22 <sinewav> it's turning fort into cricket?
01:22 <epsy> if they win the round
01:22 <Flex> taking the zone = round victory
01:22 <epsy> it's a humiliation
01:22 <dubStep> then what is the point
01:22 <dubStep> taking the zone = round victory anyway.
01:22 <sinewav> yeah
01:22 <Flex> again..
01:22 <epsy> ideally there wouldn't be a zone for the attackingn team imo
01:22 <Flex> this WHOLE idea and point.. is to have a time limit.. so long games are not unlimited in time
01:22 <epsy> otherwise it may turn into regular fort
01:22 <epsy> winzone man, winzone
01:22 <Flex> it needs to stay regular fort..
01:23 <Flex> we're not changing it to ctf.. or anything
01:23 <sinewav> if the whole point is time controlled matches, then just use LIMIT_TIME 12
01:23 <sinewav> or 15
01:23 <sinewav> `done
01:23 <dubStep> lol sounds to me like u should just make a new game mode...
01:23 <sinewav> yeah
01:23 <dubStep> its not sounding a whole lot like normal fort to me
01:23 <Flex> i'll use FPS's as an example..
01:23 <dubStep> rounds take however long they take...
01:23 <Vanhayes> ya its sort of like one flag ctf in fps shooters
01:23 <Flex> there's Deathmatch and there's teams..
01:23 <epsy> no
01:23 <Vanhayes> same basic idea any wyas
01:23 <epsy> 1flag ctf is diff
01:23 <dubStep> if theres a time limit fine.
01:23 <Flex> there's objectives and there's ffa
01:24 <Vanhayes> one team attacks the other defends
01:24 <epsy> 1flag is: there's a flag in the middle and you have to bring it to the enemy base
01:24 <dubStep> but u cant say team blue has to take team golds base in 5mins or u lose team gold if u can defend ur base then pwnage u win
01:24 <Vanhayes> depends on the game i guess
01:24 <Flex> it stays regular fort, because if the defending team uses the strategy of COUNTER-attacking.. and taking enemy zone.. then the defenders win
01:24 <Flex> keeping it classic fort
01:24 <Vanhayes> iirc halo 3 is rotating attacking/defending
01:25 <Flex> you think KoD would use 6 defenders against a team of noobs?
01:25 <epsy> capturestrike is: one pickable flag, one stale flag. the team with the stale flag must capture within a time limit
01:25 <Flex> (example)
01:25 <dubStep> no.
01:25 <dubStep> let me ask u a question
01:25 <dubStep> example
01:25 <Flex> dubStep, both teams get to attack and defend
01:25 <Flex> whoever excells more wins the match
01:25 <Vanhayes> well in halo 3 its one teamd is defense the other is offense, if offense doesnt capture the flag defense wins the round
01:26 <epsy> tbh I think re-introducing winzone could work
01:26 <epsy> and I mean a proper winzone
01:26 <Flex> no way..
01:26 <epsy> smaller, and always in middle
01:26 <dubStep> team gold has to capture team blues base in 5 mins. but team gold still has the option to attack if they feel like it... so where axactly is this radical change?
01:26 <dlh> Winzone is classic fortress! :)
01:26 <Vanhayes> ugh i hated the winzone
01:26 <Flex> winzone in the middle of defenders zone..
01:26 <dubStep> no i mean, team blue an attack if they wana*
01:26 <Flex> could make this work
01:26 <epsy> it would make midfield an actual non-useless job
01:26 <dubStep> so wheres the difference to what there is now, other than time limit?
01:27 <Vanhayes> if someone couldnt get into someone elses def they would just wait for the winzone
01:27 <epsy> because when I hear "you will be midfield" it means almost nothing
01:27 <dubStep> team time limits is dumb, if u wana do that then limit round or match
01:28 <epsy> problem is to make it quick enough so that both pos #1 will try to set a def on it
01:28 <Vanhayes> ok my idea was just to have a match time limit, and no point cap/round limit, so its like most sports and such, where after a set time team with most points win
01:28 <epsy> while you could still have normal endings
01:28 <epsy> god thanks there was timelimit in FFF
01:29 <Vanhayes> was there?
01:29 <epsy> we thought it would allow quicker matches
01:29 <epsy> instead they ran into timelimit
01:29 <Vanhayes> all i know is that that one round of best of 3 lasted almost as long as the entire ladle
01:29 <epsy> yeah, at least one match ended with timelimit
01:30 <sinewav> and why was that bad?
01:30 <dubStep> dude. just limit round. stating that a team has to capture a base int he team time limit then rotating is completely redundant.
01:30 <epsy> BORINGGGG
01:30 <sinewav> any more boring that a 100- 20 match?
01:30 <epsy> yeah, you have to enforce it gameplay-wise
01:30 <sinewav>  no
01:31 <Vanhayes> bah I say match time limit not round, gives you the same thing without ricking most round end in a non-zone capture
01:31 <epsy> well you fall asleep
01:31 <dubStep> in essence ur just reiterating what they ALREADY know theyre sposed to do
01:31 <epsy> because each round is terribly long
01:31 <dubStep> everyone knows u have to take the base... common sense
01:31 <sinewav> blame the teams for long rounds, not the game.
01:32 <Vanhayes> well one zoned attacker/defenders could be fun, not sure if you would be able to do it yet
01:32 <dlh> Hmm, how about a time limit, with 65 points to win a match. Most match wins to win the game. If you win 4 matches, and are ahead by 3 or more matches the game is over (don't need to keep playing until time limit)
01:32 <dubStep> if you have evenly matched teams ur gona get long rounds, deal.
01:32 <sinewav> if they want to be pussies, then the can bore each other to death
01:32 <epsy> no, the engine can't atm
01:33 <Vanhayes> im just waiting for team spawn points, if you guys make those ill be a happy tronner
01:33 <dlh> Team spawn points?
01:33 <epsy> have you posted that on the bug tracker?
01:33 <Vanhayes> no but you keep telling me to
01:33 <sinewav> teams spread over more than one point
01:33 <Vanhayes> yes
01:34 <Vanhayes> also set team respan zones, though i think kyle told me they are in ct-sty
01:35 <dubStep> dlh: why 65? also, if, for example, the two teams have the same matches won at time limit, do you just go over the time limit?
01:35 <dlh> Just a lower score limit, so more matches can be played.
01:36 <dubStep> if you end up 3-3 in matches and time limit has come, then we are back to square one
01:36 <dlh> If they are tied at the limit, go into tie-breaker mode. Maybe a match with a really low score limit
01:36 <epsy> problem with FFF is that rounds weren't dense at all
01:36 <sinewav> Time limit works with matches. The match ends at either the score or time limit. Not the game.
01:36 <dubStep> can you get the servers to do that?
01:36 <epsy> dubStep, do what?
01:36 <dubStep> not like "extra round whoever gains the lead wins" because thats like 2 points...
01:38 <dlh> When time limit is reached, first to get to max(score_team_a, score_team_b) + 25 ( or the match score limit ) wins :)
01:38 <dlh> min(score_limit, max(score_team_a, score_team_b) + 25)
01:38 <dubStep> makes a hell of a lot mroe sense than hwat flex was suggesting...
01:38 <dubStep> more*
01:39 <Flex> hey my idea is logical and is used in a lot of popular games..
01:39 <Flex> go check out how Counter-Strike works
01:39 <Flex> if the attackers don't plant the bomb in time.. the defenders win
01:39 <Flex> same idea..
01:39 <Flex> go figure it all out
01:39 <Vanhayes> if we are going with ideal settings, id say eliminate kill points only get zone points, and give the attacker in the coquered zone longest 2 points anyone else in there 1 point, that doesnt effect team points
01:39 <Vanhayes> but i doubt thats possible yet
01:39 <Flex> if the bomb is planted, the defenders have a chance to defuse it, before it blows.
01:40 <sinewav> sounds like you should just play counter-strike then.
01:40 <dubStep> lol... took the words right outta my mouth
01:40 <Vanhayes> Flex, ya i get what your saying, and id like to try it out, till then im not sure how well itd work for arma
01:41 <MaZuffeR__> Vanhayes, probably best if i sweep since i haven't played much lately
01:41 <Vanhayes> ok then next time i see gari ill ask if he wants to def or attack
01:42 <dubStep> :( maz, you dont wana def?
01:42 <sinewav> Listen, if the main problem is the mathces running too late that's easily fixred with LIMIT_TIME. There is no need to rewrite the game.
01:42 <Vanhayes> and ill do whatever he doesnt want to do, so ill probably attack too
01:42 <MaZuffeR__> well, i tend to fuck up a lot on def if i haven
01:42 <MaZuffeR__> t played a lot
01:42 <dubStep> :/
01:42 <dubStep> we have a practice match with sp on saturday can u make it?
01:43 <MaZuffeR__> sure
01:43 <MaZuffeR__> what time?
01:43 <dubStep> try def? =P if u hate it then u dont have to do it ^^
01:43 <dubStep> idk
01:43 <dubStep> flex, hayes? time?
01:43 <Vanhayes> not sure
01:43 <MaZuffeR__> i don't hate def, just not good for the team if def dies all the time :)
01:43 <Vanhayes> doesnt matter too much to me, just not too late
01:43 <dubStep> heh, i mean if u feel u cant do it
01:44 <dubStep> like if its not comfortable or w/e
01:44 <Flex> our practices are generally 19GMT
01:44 <Flex> i think
01:44 <MaZuffeR__> well, i know from experience that i wont play as good as i would need to
01:44 <dubStep> :(
01:45 <Vanhayes> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/playerstats2.htm damn im creeping up again, used to not be on there at all
01:45 <Flex> well, you have 2-3 days to warm up
01:45 <dubStep> other than max i think you are the best bet for de though
01:45 <epsy> sinewav, if matches last too long it's because rounds are too slow
01:45 <Flex> go test your defence skills in a busy fort server, MaZuffeR__
01:45 <MaZuffeR__> yeah, 2-3 days isn't enough i'm afraid
01:45 <sinewav> so what if they are slow?
01:45 <epsy> and if rounds are too slow it's because players aren't motivated to score
01:45 <epsy> and that makes rounds boring
01:45 <Vanhayes> there are no busy fort servers right now
01:46 <Flex> lol i'm 36
01:46 <sinewav> The problem is about boring, the problem is everything running too late.
01:46 <dubStep> lmao @ mk
01:46 <epsy> not in FFF
01:46 <dubStep> my name will never be on there, ip and name change wayyyy to often
01:46 <sinewav> I though we were talking about ladle?
01:46 <dubStep> ip changes on a daily bases
01:46 <Vanhayes> dubStep, you are on there twice
01:46 <epsy> dubStep, it's just nicks
01:47 <Flex> i never go on another name and my ip never changes
01:47 <epsy> rofl :>
01:47 <dubStep> i am?
01:47 <Vanhayes> dubStep, #58 and #149
01:47 <Vanhayes> you have over 100 hours
01:47 <Vanhayes> beat me and flex
01:47 <dubStep> rofl and look at how many aliases there are
01:48 <epsy> sinewav, in a given timelimit, a 53-36 match is usually more interesting than a 1-0 one
01:48 <dubStep> revolutionary isnt even there, or wife.wav
01:48 <dubStep> =P
01:48 <epsy> doesn't matter which game
01:48 <Vanhayes> ]calc 75.55 + 53.56
01:48 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: 129.11
01:48 <Vanhayes> thats how many hours you got
01:48 <sinewav> again, blame the players, not the game
01:48 <epsy> if the game leads the players to play defensive/slow, it's the game which is crap
01:48 <Vanhayes> dubStep, so you would be #6
01:49 <dubStep> lmao
01:49 <dubStep> no i would be higher
01:49 <epsy> hence why you don't like counterstrike
01:49 <dubStep> missing aliases
01:49 <dubStep> ive got an alias tha nobody knows about
01:49 <sinewav> I've never played it
01:49 <Vanhayes> true, and number 1 and 2 dont really count
01:49 <dubStep> and then revolutionary
01:49 <dubStep> id be like #3
01:49 <dubStep> i reckon i play more tron than anybody
01:49 <dubStep> lmao
01:49 <dubStep> too much time on my hands
01:50 <Vanhayes> ha van nelle is on there
01:50 <dubStep> lol
01:50 <Vanhayes> oh you have 2 as empress
01:50 <dubStep> sinewav: busy?
01:50 <Vanhayes> so add another 36 hours
01:50 <sinewav> meh.
01:50 <sinewav> what's up?
01:50 <dubStep> like 165 or something?
01:51 <Flex> In this time there were a total of 39323 players online.
01:51 <dubStep> if be
01:51 <dubStep> #4
01:51 <dubStep> id*
01:51 <dubStep> lol
01:51 <Flex> -10k of clones
01:51 <dubStep> technically #3
01:51 <Flex> that's 30k players.. lol
01:51 <dubStep> or 2 since player 1 doesnt count really
01:52 <Vanhayes> and aka is anyone who used and alias it tracked
01:52 <dubStep> lol i would try and keep one name but thats an impossiblity for me
01:52 <dubStep> so #2 then
01:52 <Flex> i should use more names often.. i'm too high up there..
01:52 <dubStep> lol
01:53 <Flex> been playing a lot recently too
01:53 <dubStep> sinewav: nothing i just wana race lol
01:53 <epsy> I think I'm not in it
01:53 <epsy> on that list
01:53 <Vanhayes> dont think so either
01:53 <dubStep> and my other alias arent there
01:53 <dubStep> liek fake_dubs
01:53 <epsy> it doesnt track renames
01:54 <dubStep> mellow yellow
01:54 <dubStep> bad mood
01:54 <dubStep> etc
01:54 <Vanhayes> just proably not enough time on those names
01:54 <dubStep> its possible im #1 really
01:54 <epsy> haha
01:54 <MaZuffeR__> i don't think i've been on the list since january >.<
01:54 <epsy> I is bugged
01:54 <dubStep> play mor emaz =P
01:54 <epsy> er
01:54 <epsy> 1
01:54 <Vanhayes> so you spent about 10% of the last 3 months on tron dubStep
01:54 <dubStep> lmao
01:54 <dubStep> i think more
01:55 <epsy> so yeah if someone plays more than Player 1 :DD
01:55 <dubStep> lmao
01:55 <dubStep> ive been player 1 a few times
01:55 <epsy> 1102:07
01:55 <dubStep> and text_out 0
01:55 <dubStep> in conclusion i play tron too much
01:55 <Vanhayes> im not sure if ther eis a guy called mike that plays so much or if alot of new people named mike used their real name
01:55 <dubStep> miek is a common name
01:55 <dubStep> most likely the latter
01:56 <epsy> well #4 has a clantag
01:56 <epsy> hah
01:56 <epsy> player 2 isn't far
01:56 <dubStep> lol
01:56 <Vanhayes> ya ive been player 1 and 2 a few times
01:56 <Vanhayes> zombie jesus isnt on there though
01:56 <epsy> #19 I'll love again
01:57 <Vanhayes> ya thats a weird one
01:57 <dubStep> lmao
01:57 <Vanhayes> oblivion is 10
01:57 <Vanhayes> ha mkay is 12 and he just started like 3 months ago
01:57 <epsy> #40	Vanhayes aka V:a:n:h:a:y:e:s
01:57 <dubStep> lmao
01:57 <dubStep> mk is always on tho
01:57 <Vanhayes> heh
01:57 <epsy> ;)
01:57 <dubStep> hes on right now
01:57 <Vanhayes> yes he is
01:57 <dubStep> .ls Mkay-1
01:58 <tronner> dubStep: Mkay-1 seems to be on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress right now.
01:58 <Vanhayes> hmm
01:58 <dubStep> rofl.
01:58 <Vanhayes> .si mega
01:58 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (5/32): free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Mkay-1, Revolutionary, SuBlImInAl.FreQ (subliminal@forums), _~`Ww_Destiny
01:58 <epsy> it's surprising I left this list
01:58 <dubStep> .ls dubStep
01:58 <tronner> dubStep: dubStep has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress 3 hours 11 minutes ago.
01:58 <epsy> @ls -g epsy@forums
01:58 <teabot> epsy: serious_epsy has last been seen on Ladle 23 (Flex's Server) 2 hours 8 minutes ago.
01:58 <epsy> maybe it gets buggy with auth names
01:59 <dubStep> .ls wife.wav
01:59 <dubStep> hmm
01:59 <tronner> dubStep: timed out
01:59 <dubStep> .ls ekg.wav
01:59 <Flex> .aka dubstep
01:59 <tronner> dubStep: ekg.wav has last been seen on 1 On 1 Sumo (Germany, EU) 16 hours 49 minutes ago.
01:59 <tronner> Flex: I don't know anything about 'dubstep'!
01:59 <dubStep> ha
01:59 <Vanhayes> .ls swiftcoaster
01:59 <epsy> .aka epsy
01:59 <tronner> Vanhayes: timed out
01:59 <tronner> epsy: ¿5074 phail |x|boulangerie |x|baguette |x|vim |x|nano_ftl |x|vim_ftw |x|uncle_benz |x|_e |x|_bernadette |x|epy epsy
01:59 <Vanhayes> .aka Vanhayes
01:59 <tronner> Vanhayes: ¿6574 swiftcoaster icarus vanhayes
02:00 <Flex> .aka flex
02:00 <dubStep> .aka dubs
02:00 <epsy> .aka serious_epsy
02:00 <Vanhayes> oh this is the messed up one
02:00 <tronner> Flex: ¿22380 |sexy|_flexy flex 0:Flex@x |x|_flex 0:flex@L_OP |x|_flew |dmx|_flex fle|x|
02:00 <tronner> dubStep: ¿2182 dubs
02:00 <tronner> epsy: I don't know anything about 'serious_epsy'!
02:00 <Vanhayes> .aka dubStep
02:00 <tronner> Vanhayes: I don't know anything about 'dubstep'!
02:00 <epsy> ah
02:00 <Vanhayes> .aka dubStep@ct
02:00 <tronner> Vanhayes: I don't know anything about 'dubstep@ct'!
02:00 <epsy> café isn't logged anymore then I guess
02:01 <epsy> .help aka
02:01 <tronner> epsy: (aka <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/aka.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
02:01 <Vanhayes> must have only been in cafe cause it never says zombie jesus for me, and i use that whenever swiss is in the server
02:01 <Vanhayes> ]ratting dubstep
02:01 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "ratting" is not a valid command.
02:01 <Vanhayes> ]rating dubstep
02:01 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: I don't know anything about 'dubstep'!
02:01 <dubStep> ^^
02:01 <Vanhayes> ]rating ~*dubstep*~
02:01 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: I don't know anything about '~*dubstep*~'!
02:01 <dubStep> u wont find meeeeeeeee
02:01 <Vanhayes> ]rating dubs@ct
02:01 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: I don't know anything about 'dubs@ct'!
02:01 <epsy> .aka fake_epsy
02:01 <tronner> epsy: I don't know anything about 'fake_epsy'!
02:01 <dubStep> im a figment of ur imaginaeions
02:01 <Vanhayes> ]rating dubs@forums
02:01 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: I don't know anything about 'dubs@forums'!
02:02 <epsy> .aka 0:epsy@forums
02:02 <tronner> epsy: ¿3832 |x|epsy2 0:epsy@fff.armagetron.co.uk/staff 0:epsy@forums
02:02 <epsy> .rating 0:epsy@forums
02:02 <tronner> epsy: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
02:02 <Vanhayes> ]rating sp.dubStep
02:02 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: I don't know anything about 'sp.dubstep'!
02:02 <Vanhayes> bah
02:02 <dubStep> i told u
02:02 <epsy> @1 ?
02:02 <dubStep> im not real.
02:02 <epsy> .rating "0:epsy@forums"
02:02  * dubStep is a bot
02:02 <tronner> epsy: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
02:02 <ct|kyle> !add fort
02:02 <epsy> .rating ¿3832
02:02 <tronner> epsy: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
02:02 <epsy> ct|kyle, wrong chat
02:02 <epsy> chan
02:02 <ct|kyle> I know
02:03 <dubStep> .rating "0:dubStep@forums"
02:03 <epsy> :>
02:03 <tronner> dubStep: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
02:03 <epsy> buggage
02:04 <dubStep> lol
02:04 <dubStep> .ls Revolutionary
02:04 <tronner> dubStep: Revolutionary seems to be on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress right now.
02:04 <epsy> ct|kyle, problem now is that I don't know what is left to be done
02:04 <Vanhayes> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/ellipse.php   ha ellipses machine
02:04 <Flex> .rating flex
02:05 <tronner> Flex: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
02:05 <ct|kyle> .ctwf
02:05 <Vanhayes> .rating Vanhayes
02:05 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (4/14): Anthrax, ct¤kyle (kyle@ct), Darthvader, Mw|Ralf
02:05 <tronner> Vanhayes: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
02:05 <epsy> ]rating "0:epsy@forums"
02:05 <ljrbot> epsy: 0:epsy@forums is 2283rd with a rating of 1517-1556 (from 1519-1554)
02:05 <dubStep> .rating "0:dubStep@forums"
02:05 <tronner> dubStep: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
02:05 <Vanhayes> why is everyone the same rating?
02:05 <epsy> that's kinda better
02:05 <dubStep> ?
02:06 <dubStep> .rating "0:dubStep@ct"
02:06 <epsy> ]help rating
02:06 <ljrbot> epsy: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
02:06 <tronner> dubStep: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
02:06 <epsy> .help rating
02:06 <tronner> epsy: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=%401".
02:06 <Vanhayes> .rating "0:Van-hayes@forums"
02:06 <tronner> Vanhayes: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
02:06 <epsy> .alias add rating "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]"
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02:06 <epsy> HAI TRONNER
02:07 <Vanhayes> I am making ellipses with an ellipses machine
02:07 <epsy> I'll just ellipse that line
02:08 <epsy> ct|kyle, what was missing last time? :o
02:08 <epsy> oh well
02:09 <ct|kyle> !add fort fort fort
02:10 <epsy> try
02:12 <dubStep> sinewav: whyd u leave?
02:12 <sinewav> do depressed  right now
02:12 <sinewav> to*
02:12 <dubStep> :(
02:12 <sinewav> I'm trying not to call my friend and say hateful things to her.
02:13 <dubStep> :/
02:13 <Flex> I've found a new alias, to split up my time thing up!
02:13 <Flex> i'm Alchemist btw
02:14 <Flex> .aka alchemist
02:14 <tronner> Flex: ¿2452 alchemist stax.
02:14 <dubStep> lol
02:14 <dubStep> stax huh
02:14 <Flex> stax from tr?
02:16 <dubStep> yea
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02:28 <madmax> any positions for AW settled? didn't follow the discussion heh
02:29 <madmax> dubStep, Vanhayes ^
02:29 <Flex> yeah, you got kicked out of AW
02:29 <Flex> :D
02:29 <Vanhayes> i think its you and sunny attacking maz and dubs sweeping and i think gari will def and i attack
02:29 <sinewav> ahahaha
02:30 <sinewav> poor, poor madmax. it's cuz his skillz are weak.
02:30 <Flex> :(
02:30 <sinewav> no one ever told him.
02:30 <madmax> :'(
02:30 <Flex> hug?
02:30 <sinewav> >:-)
02:30 <Flex> |C
02:31 <madmax> that's a hug?
02:31 <Flex> best i could do..
02:31 <sinewav> hahahaha
02:31 <epsy> lol
02:31 <madmax> does anyone see a hug there?
02:31 <Flex> look.. | is the person
02:31 <Flex> C is the arms
02:31 <Flex> |C
02:31 <Flex> see it?
02:31 <sinewav> ah
02:31 <epsy> why are the arms split from the person?
02:31 <Flex> it's the thought that counts!
02:32 <epsy> you basically implied a person with floating arms hugging him
02:32 <epsy> that is quite creepy
02:33 <Flex> you have a better hug?
02:33 <epsy> shhhh :>
02:33 <Flex> rayman?
02:33 <Flex> his arms were not connected, he wasn't weird.. kind of
02:33 <epsy> I thought about that haha
02:33 <Flex> that game was awesome
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02:49 <sinewav> .plus
02:53 <Vanhayes> dlh, was that you?
02:58 <dubStep> anyone wana come play incam fort with us?
02:58 <epsy> hah
02:58 <dubStep> its hilarious
02:59 <dubStep> epsy: wana come? :(
03:00 -!- ArmaPickupBot [n=ArmaPick@unaffiliated/epsy/bot/teabot] has joined #armagetron
03:00 <ArmaPickupBot> Please !add up for In-Cam Fortress in #armagetron.pickup ! 5 more people needed! (Type !add icf in #armagetron.pickup)
03:00 <Vanhayes> !add
03:01 <dubStep> lol who is that
03:01 <Vanhayes> its the new bot epsy was working on
03:01 <dubStep> oh
03:01 <epsy> Type !add icf in #armagetron.pickup
03:02 <epsy> dubStep,
03:02 <dubStep> !add icf #armagetron.pickup
03:02 <dubStep> ?
03:02 <epsy>  /join #armagetron.pickup
03:02 <dubStep> noo u made me die
03:03 <ArmaPickupBot> Please !add up for In-Cam Fortress in #armagetron.pickup ! 4 more people needed! (Type !add icf in #armagetron.pickup)
03:03 <epsy> Flex, incam fort?
03:06 <dubStep> Flex:
03:06 <Flex> i tried it..
03:06 <dubStep> go to bed
03:07 <Flex> in forced incam mode, do mini-maps get blocked?
03:07 <Flex> dubStep, i'm going to have a shower, before i do
03:08 <Flex> and arma bot keeps spamming me everytime i send a message, here.. :/
03:08 <Vanhayes> no they dont
03:08 <epsy> bla
03:08 <Flex> ArmaPickupBot is spamming meEE
03:08 <epsy> ty
03:08 <epsy> noted
03:08 <Flex> [02:08] <ArmaPickupBot> Please only issue commands in #armagetron.pickup.
03:09 <Flex> lol, just noted? everytime i send a message to this channel, i get pm'ed :p
03:09 <epsy> now thing :)
03:09 <epsy> new
03:09 <Vanhayes> same here
03:09 <Flex> my cat scratched me
03:09 <Flex> :(
03:10 <Flex> when it jumped off me, while i was holding her
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03:11 <epsy> hi123
03:11 <epsy> fixed
03:11 <ArmaPickupBot> Please !add up for In-Cam Fortress in #armagetron.pickup ! 5 more people needed! (Type !add icf in #armagetron.pickup)
03:18 <Vanhayes> .weather e5n 5c5
03:18 <tronner> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Belleisle Regional High, Springfield, New Brunswick is 19.1°C (10:18 PM ADT on July 02, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising).
03:19 <Vanhayes> psh feels way hotter that that
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03:27 <dubStep> dlh:
03:31 <dlh> dubStep:
03:31 <dubStep> idk epsy was asking for you
03:31 <dubStep> epsy: ping
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04:02 <epsy> hi Luciferbuilder
04:02 <Lucifer> hi epsybuilder
04:08 <epsy> what's up? :)
04:13 <epsy> thanks and good games
04:13 <epsy> (to the testers I just kicked from the chan)
04:16 <Flex> why the kick?
04:17 <epsy> I've explained before kicking
04:17 <Flex> i wasn't there
04:17 <epsy> I just want to be able to experiment with it alone
04:17 <Flex> oh, ok
04:17 <epsy> you still have the log don't you? :(
04:17 <Flex> it's ok
04:17 <Flex> i'd still go with the !start <game> <mode> <server>
04:18 <epsy> also, sorry for having to restart the bot 3 times :)
04:18 <epsy> ala yandere?
04:18 <Flex> then whoever wants to join, does !join flex
04:18 <Flex> flex being the one who did the first !start
04:18 <Flex> then !begin
04:19 <ct|kyle> !slap flex
04:19 <epsy> idk, that goes pretty far from the original concept
04:20 <epsy> while it's a nice idea, I'm not sure if I'll do that
04:20 <ct|kyle> yes, but it would make it better
04:20 <Flex> it seems future proof
04:20 <epsy> yeah, maybe one day
04:20 <epsy> but not on day-of-launch :)
04:20 <Flex> if you make it useful, people will actually use it..
04:21 <ct|kyle> day of launch being Saturday?
04:21 <Flex> we just got a decent game out of that.. so it's productive
04:21 <epsy> maybe this weekend
04:21 <ct|kyle> Saturday, in celebration of US independence
04:21 <epsy> heh :)
04:22 <Flex> epsy, want an example?
04:22 <Flex> quakenet, csspickup
04:22 <Flex> or something along those lines
04:22 <epsy> I understood your idea
04:22 <Flex> #css.pickup
04:22 <Flex> or something
04:23 <epsy> neither :P
04:23 <epsy> both are empty
04:23 <Flex> no i mean, on quakenet
04:23 <epsy> yeah, on quakenet
04:23 <Flex> css.4on4
04:23 <Flex> ?
04:23 <Flex> or is it.. #css.wars
04:23 <epsy> there is 1 guy :P
04:24 <Flex> 4on4.css
04:24 <Flex> ?
04:24 <Flex> :p anyway, can't remember
04:24 <epsy> 5 ppl in css.wars
04:24 <epsy> that includes myself
04:24 <Flex> used to be like 5k people doing pick up wars, preplanned teams
04:24 <epsy> ah
04:25 <epsy>  #4on4.css
04:25 <Flex> tr 5on5.css
04:25 <Flex> 6on6.css
04:26 <epsy> sounds like they use their own bot
04:26 <epsy> I'm basically bashing off the echbots
04:26 <epsy> http://echbot.com/
04:26 <Flex> 5on5.css seems busy
04:26 <epsy> http://echbot.com/stats/
04:27 <Flex> #pcw
04:27 <Flex> #5on5.css
04:27 <Flex> #5on5
04:28 <Flex> S.pcw
04:29 <Luke-Jr> ]aka @1
04:29 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: ¿11873 @1
04:29 <Luke-Jr> oh, a diff bot
04:29 <Luke-Jr> .rating luke-jr
04:29 <tronner> Luke-Jr: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
04:29 <Luke-Jr> still fails
04:29 <Luke-Jr> ]help rating
04:29 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
04:29 <Luke-Jr> .help rating
04:29 <tronner> Luke-Jr: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=%401".
04:29 <Luke-Jr> ROFL
04:30 <Luke-Jr> epic fail
04:30 <Luke-Jr> .alias add rating web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]
04:30 <Luke-Jr> .help rating
04:30 <tronner> Luke-Jr: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=%401".
04:30 <Luke-Jr> .you suck
04:30 <epsy> yeah, I tried to fix it earlier
04:30 <epsy> :/
04:31 <Luke-Jr> epsy: you have access?
04:31 <epsy> Flex, meh, none of these chans are active atm heh
04:31 <Luke-Jr> .alias add rating "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]"
04:31 <epsy> Luke-Jr, no, hence why I "tried"
04:31 <Luke-Jr> .web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote you suck]]
04:31 <epsy> ct|kyle, ping
04:31 <tronner> Luke-Jr: you_suck is 6613th with a rating of 1415-1697 (from 1416-1697)
04:31 <ct|kyle> epsy: pong
04:31 <epsy> ct|kyle, .alias add rating web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]
04:32 <Luke-Jr> epsy: it needs quotes
04:32 <ct|kyle>  .alias add rating "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]"
04:32 <epsy> yeah, that too
04:32 <ct|kyle> .alias add rating "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]"
04:32 <Luke-Jr> .help rating
04:32 <tronner> Luke-Jr: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=%401".
04:32 <Luke-Jr> .rating ctxp4
04:32 <tronner> Luke-Jr: @1 is 21536th with a rating of 1084-1587
04:32 <epsy> P4,
04:33 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: fail
04:33 <epsy> !quit
04:33 <Luke-Jr> who has access to tronner?
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04:33 <ct|kyle> wtf is wrong with tronner
04:33 <ct|kyle> oh
04:33 <ct|kyle> .unlock rating
04:33 <ct|kyle> arg
04:33 <ct|kyle> p4 screwed up a bunch of settings
04:34 <epsy> nn
04:34 <Luke-Jr> P4: FAIL
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04:35 <Flex> where can i get my own copy of serverxml.php
04:35 <Flex> or how..
04:35 <Flex> can i mirror it..
04:50 <dlh> Flex: you can mirror it
04:51 <Flex> where do i start?
04:51 <dlh> Why do you need your own copy?
04:52 <dlh> Flex: http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/private/wrtlprnft/serverlist/
04:53 <Flex> wrtlprnft's one keeps going down
04:53 <Flex> like now
04:53 <dlh> Ah
04:53 <dlh> It looks like wrtlprnft's one is tied to a database
04:53 <Flex> yeah
04:54 <dlh> You can do something like I did for my server browser
04:54 <dlh> Or just use mine... It outputs JSON data not XML
04:54 <dlh> https://code.launchpad.net/~dlh/armagetronad/server-browser
04:55 <dlh> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Edlh/armagetronad/server-browser/annotate/head%3A/server_list.php
04:55 <Flex> got a link to yours? :p or is that private
04:55 <Flex> so i can see what it looks like
04:55 <dlh> The actual browser?
04:55 <Flex> yeah
04:56 <dlh> This isn't the full server browser, just ladle servers. http://generalconsumption.org/armagetronad/ladle/
04:56 <dlh> I have a full version but I'm not hosting it yet
04:56 <Flex> oh nice
04:56 <Flex> i like it
04:56 <dlh> I don't use the in-game server browser anymore :)
04:57 <Flex> yeah, same
04:57 <dlh> Anyway, the code for that is at the link I gave you
04:57 <Flex> yup, thanks
04:57 <dlh> It is setup to do a full serverlist
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05:56 <akira_arma> dlh i'd be so happy if I could compile your code :(
05:56 <dlh> akira_arma: old_glancing?
05:57 <akira_arma> yes
05:57 <akira_arma> i didnt try compiling it for awhile by I simply couldnt do it last time
05:57 <akira_arma> but*
05:58 <dlh> I don't use windows, but I don't think many people can compile trunk code on windows right now. It is a mess.
05:59 <akira_arma> I mean I finally got it to compile it with only warnings..
05:59 <dlh> Really?
05:59 <akira_arma> but then running the exe would give my 1000 errors
05:59 <akira_arma> ;)
05:59 <dlh> Paste the errors?
05:59 <akira_arma> ah
05:59 <akira_arma> not again :)
06:00 <akira_arma> i was so disgusted i delted it all :)
06:00 <dlh> haha
06:00 <akira_arma> i thin the major prob was something with z-lib
06:01 <akira_arma> well if i get in the mood ill try it again and paste that shit
06:02 <dlh> Maybe have a linux partition just so you can compile and play using old-glancing, haha
06:08 <akira_arma> I just had to delete my old one
06:08 <akira_arma> i forgot my root password :(
06:08 <akira_arma> I know thats silly :)
06:49 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [server-browser] r22 When clicking the selected server, the details should hide....
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09:58 <Lucifer> guru3: now that we've got phpbb3, can we get a "list all unread posts" button?
10:00 <epsy> View new posts?
10:01 <epsy> phpbb3 doesn't do the difference between new and unread afaik
10:04 <Lucifer> yeah, it does
10:04 <Lucifer> it even has a "mark forum read" button
10:04 <epsy> hah :/
10:04 <Lucifer> view new posts only shows posts that are new since last login, but I want to see all unread posts
10:05 <epsy> ah
10:05 <epsy> then it does
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13:43 <Lucifer> .math calc 56-27
13:43 <tronner> Lucifer: 29
13:43 <Lucifer> oh goodie
13:53 <Lucifer> heh, facebook just suggested I friend that librarian chick I struck out with
13:54 <epsy> good guess
13:54 <epsy> ;P
13:56 <Lucifer> technology is amazingly stupid
13:56 <Lucifer> I didn't try, the last thing I want is to look creepy when I'm trying to get a full-time job at the school
13:57 <Lucifer> and as it happens, the job I'm trying to get will involve visiting all the campuses
13:57 <epsy> lucifer will be a teacher? :o
13:57 <Lucifer> so maybe I can accidentally meet her
13:57 <Lucifer> no, IT guy for the physics/geology labs
13:57 <Lucifer> *if* I get the job
13:57 <epsy> ah
13:58 <Lucifer> and I definitely want the job more than I want the girl
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14:47 <epsy> oh
14:47 <epsy> sorry
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14:54 <epsy> do I really have to write i = i +1 ?
14:56 <Lucifer> you can't write i++ ?
14:56 <Lucifer> wait, it's python, isn't it?
14:56 <Lucifer> you can do i += 1 in python
14:56 <epsy> ok
14:56 <z-man-work> you can?
14:56 <Lucifer> yep
14:57 <Lucifer> well, here's what you can do (big paste0
14:57 <Lucifer> >>> i = 0
14:57 <Lucifer> >>> i++
14:57 <Lucifer>   File "<stdin>", line 1
14:57 <Lucifer>     i++
14:57 <Lucifer>       ^
14:57 <epsy> yeah I also tried ++i
14:57 <Lucifer> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
14:57 <Lucifer> >>> i += 1
14:57 <Lucifer> >>> i
14:57 <Lucifer> 1
14:57 <Lucifer> >>>
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16:13 <madmax> hi
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16:19 <epsy> hi
16:22 <ct|kyle> oi
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17:11 <epsy> http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9429/ownagead.jpg <-- AdWord win :o)
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18:36 <epsy> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19439
18:36 <epsy> I think this qualifies as spam
18:50 <ct|kyle> mkay is an asshat
18:52 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [server-browser] r24 Corrected bottom button links || [server-browser] r23 Use a modified Armagetron Unified style....
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18:58 <epsy> dlh, link cursor when pointing on a server
18:59 <epsy> would help the user realize he can click
18:59 <dlh> hmm, possibly
19:00 <akira_arma> #tea
19:00 <epsy> also, you're putting a link as page title
19:00 <akira_arma> .tea
19:00 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:00 <akira_arma> .si fort
19:00 <tronner> akira_arma: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (2/14): Meziar, missiööö
19:01 <akira_arma> ..
19:01 <epsy> actually that could even qualify as a button
19:01 <dlh> Yeah, that needs modifying.
19:01 <epsy> it should just read "Ladle Server Browser"
19:02 <epsy> and find a way to cache the indicidual server refresh button :)
19:02 <epsy> individual
19:02 <dlh> It is two buttons, one for pressed state and another for normal. I've been meaning to make it one.
19:03 <epsy> argh, that too
19:03 <dlh> So it loads instantly...
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19:51 <madmax> how do I add this gigantic thing as an alias? :-(
19:51 <madmax> .format "Café %s -- Mega Fortress %s -- Most players: %s" [filter reverse [cut -24 [filter reverse [si café]]]] [filter reverse [cut -46 [filter reverse [si mega]]]] [si fortress]
19:51 <tronner> madmax: Café (0/32):  -- Mega Fortress (0/32):  -- Most players: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (11/14): -||BS|Hype, 808 STATE (808STATE@ct), Binford, missiööö, Oraley, PerfectKi¦¦er (killerbees19@forums), PerfectPsYk0 (PerfectPsYk0@ct), prototy, Sandglass, Tigershark, Venom (Venom@ct)
19:52 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [server-browser] r26 Use pointer cursor for hovering || [server-browser] r25 Removed unused div
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20:12 <Durka> dlh: I love ur browser! <3 http://durka.ath.cx/serverbrowser/
20:33 <akira_arma> .si fort
20:33 <tronner> akira_arma: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (13/14): 808 STATE (808STATE@ct), A.R.G.H, ßaTTaL¦L¡øn (Tiedrawer@forums), Binford, CT¤Tadd, ct~orly?, Longball|mbc, MacBook Geek, pike (pike@ct), Sandglass, Sl33py, Spex, Tigershark
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22:17 <Flex> has anyone compiled a windows version with the old glances?
22:20 <akira_arma> lol
22:20 <akira_arma> DONT ASK
22:20 <akira_arma> i tried for 2 days
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22:31 <Flex> we need a windows compiler!
22:33 <epsy> gcc
22:35 <ct|kyle> FORMAT C:/
22:40 <eddiefantastic> hi there! anyone want to test an early version of this Fortress Onslaught idea?
22:41 <Flex> you crazy guys
22:41 <eddiefantastic> the server is called Fortress Onslaught
22:41 <madmax> that was fast
22:41 <eddiefantastic> It pretty much follows z-man's thoughts
22:42 <eddiefantastic> needs much tweaking, I'm worried about holes
22:42  * madmax can't try it right now
22:42 <Flex> i can, in a sec
22:42 <eddiefantastic> it was fairly simple, most i'd done before, just not in the same way
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23:05 <epsy> the new freenode will allow colors in topics :o
23:06 <Luke-Jr> crap
23:07 <epsy> well, in some cases it will be good
23:07 <MrBougo> in some cases it won't d:
23:07 <MrBougo> D:
23:07 <epsy> yeah
23:07 <MrBougo> background colors EW
23:07 <epsy> heh
23:08 <epsy> yeah, almost all gamesurge channel topics i came across had white on black topics
23:09 <MrBougo>       TOPIC OF AWESOME
23:09 <epsy> #ivantis.net
23:10 <epsy> strangely enough, freenode acceps \x0f in topics
23:10 <epsy> so you can bypass the default colour for topics :P
23:11 <Luke-Jr> what default colour?
23:11 <epsy> depends on client
23:11 <epsy> the color the client uses for topics, basically
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23:39 <sunny> where are you all? :P
23:40 <epsy> coding
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23:40 <epsy> I think the bot is ready
23:40 <epsy> :)
23:40 <sunny> boring :P
23:42 <sunny> its almost 12 u can stop coding :P
23:43 <epsy> I need to package it properly :<
23:43 <epsy> and I have no clue what proper python packaging is like
23:43 <sunny> thats sad
23:44 <epsy> I know you share my pain
23:44 <epsy> :)
23:44 <sunny> yea i do ;)
23:45 <sunny> i can help you
23:45 <sunny> come and play tron xD
23:46 <sunny> you can win if u want
23:46  * sunny is bored
23:46 <epsy> that's tempting
23:47 <Flex> haha :p
23:47 <sunny> :P
23:52 <sunny> so what are you doing epsy, what are you coding?
23:53 <epsy> a pickup bot
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Log from 2009-07-04:
--- Day changed Sat Jul 04 2009
00:02 <Lucifer> .math calc 537.50/50
00:02 <tronner> Lucifer: 10.75
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00:04  * sunny is spmmaing on some forums like twix und ct....
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00:10 <Vanhayes> fortress onslaught anyone?
00:15 <ct|kyle> sunny: if you do that you need to put a picture of you up on Ct's
00:15 <epsy> ady already found one anyway
00:16 <epsy> *hides*
00:16 <sunny> i sended him one....
00:16 <sunny> in the paaaaaaaast..... -.-
00:17 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: I would but I have to go
00:17 <ct|kyle> get sunny to
00:17 <sunny> kyle u said it to late :d
00:18 <epsy> it's normal to make terrible mistakes in life
00:18 <sunny> that i have to put a pic on :P
00:18 <epsy> :D
00:18 <sunny> nah
00:18 <ct|kyle> sunny: Edit
00:18 <ct|kyle> :)
00:18 <sunny> ?
00:19 <ct|kyle> edit post to put one up sunny
00:19 <sunny> not time at the moment
00:19 <sunny> i play tron xD
00:19 <epsy> :D
00:20 <ct|kyle> sunny: and 1 does not have to be the limit you can put a whole bunch if you want :P
00:20 <sunny> unpossible
00:20 <sunny> inpossible :D
00:21 <ct|kyle> even if you don't want :P
00:21 <sunny> or something like that
00:21 <ct|kyle> possible*
00:21 <madmax> it's a trap!
00:22 <sunny> xD
00:22 <ct|kyle> I know, I gtg anyway
00:22 <sunny> its a pity :d
00:23 <sunny> only noobs are online
00:23 <sunny> also on cafe -.-
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00:31 <Flex> eddiefantastic, i don't think respawns makes it as exciting as getting one chance
00:31 <Flex> defence wins by staying alive before the time runs out, attackers win by taking the defence zone, as they don't have their own zone
00:32 <Flex> without respawns, i'm willing to have a go :P
00:33 <Flex> i just dislike respawns
00:33 <madmax> resresres
00:34 <Lucifer> fucking noobs
00:34 <Lucifer> there ought to be a law against them
00:34 <Flex> with respawns, you'll just get people driving and taking any risk.. as they know they'll be back 5 seconds later
00:35 <madmax> but without them maybe the defense is too strong?
00:36 <Flex> kill sweepers first, then either torp the defence or 4v1 him
00:36 <Flex> try and imagine how a game will be..
00:37 <Flex> plus the game changes defenders and attackers every round
00:39 <Vanhayes> plus the attacking team's zone can be conquered
00:40 <Flex> it can?
00:40 <Flex> i tried, it was too small and didn't seem to move
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00:56 <Vanhayes> madmax, play fortress onslaught?
00:56 <madmax> busy, sorry
01:21 <PinkTomato> .si onslaugh
01:21 <tronner> PinkTomato: Fortress Onslaught: Players (5/12): alf, mitnix, Pink Tomatoes, Thump.uNk, Vanhayes (Van-hayes@forums)
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01:49 <P4> what tronner?
01:50 <P4> you don't need to lock aliases, alias add/remove is just disabled by default (:
01:50 <P4> if you need an alias, just ask
01:50 <epsy> one is borked
01:50 <epsy> .help rating
01:50 <tronner> epsy: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=%401".
01:50 <epsy> ]help rating
01:50 <ljrbot> epsy: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
01:51 <P4> .add rating "web fetch [concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]"
01:51 <P4> .unlock rating
01:51 <tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
01:51 <P4> .add rating "web fetch [concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]"
01:51 <tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
01:51 <P4> .rating ct__4
01:51 <tronner> P4: I don't know anything about 'ct__4'!
01:51 <P4> .ls -g P4@ct
01:51 <tronner> P4: CT׶4 has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 2 days 5 hours 39 minutes ago.
01:52 <P4> .rating CT׶4
01:52 <tronner> P4: ctxp4 is 2248th with a rating of 1518-1566 (from 1521-1564)
01:52 <P4> can you rate styball? (:
01:54 <epsy> yay it can finally reload configs properly :>
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01:55 <PinkTomato> .rating Pink Tomatoes
01:55 <tronner> PinkTomato: pink_tomatoes is 6522nd with a rating of 1417-1490 (from 1419-1488)
01:55 <PinkTomato> haha, that's crap
01:55 <epsy> .rating serious_epsy
01:55 <tronner> epsy: I don't know anything about 'serious_epsy'!
01:56 <PinkTomato> .rating epsy
01:56 <tronner> PinkTomato: epsy is 4759th with a rating of 1452-1560 (from 1454-1559)
01:56 <PinkTomato> .rating fake_epsy
01:56 <tronner> PinkTomato: I don't know anything about 'fake_epsy'!
01:57 <PinkTomato> where are .ratings from?
01:57 <epsy> luke never disclosed the full list of servers
01:58 <PinkTomato> does it not get updated any more?
02:00 <epsy> idk
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03:56 <noob13> .fort
03:56 <noob13> .sd fort
03:56 <tronner> noob13: Trainie's Camp! (Sumo/fort like movement) Please Join!0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (1/8): Player 1
03:57 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: still up for fortress onslaught
04:37 <epsy> night
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04:53 <Vanhayes> ct|kyle, nah there is actually a good sized game of fort right now
04:54 <ct|kyle> ok
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08:23 <Lucifer> GodTodd: that's what my other friend got
08:23 <GodTodd> heh
08:23 <GodTodd> the interpretation is wrong
08:23 <GodTodd> :)
08:23 <Lucifer> it's totally fucked up, yessir
08:24 <Lucifer> back when I did tarot readings, I always tried to cast the Death card into the phoenix myth, even if there were no other handy cards for me to use to support that
08:24 <GodTodd> and i hate when people use apostrophe's to pluralize ;)
08:24 <Lucifer> yeah, those peopl'e just fucking suck
08:25 <GodTodd> yeah...it just means the death of *something*.  not that *you're* going to die or that your death is even involved
08:25 <Lucifer> it's only supposed to very rarely mean literal death
08:26 <GodTodd> such as...death of a way of thinking...death of a long project...stuff like that
08:26 <Lucifer> I told a girl once it meant she was going to lose her virginity, and then her boyfriend was going to turn out to be a cheater
08:26 <Lucifer> I was sooooooooooooooooo right
08:26 <GodTodd> haha
08:26 <GodTodd> death of innocence
08:26 <GodTodd> see?
08:26 <Lucifer> the irony is that because of that reading, she declared she didn't believe in that shit anyway
08:26 <Lucifer> which was completely right, tarot readings are never about the cards, they're about the people
08:26 <Lucifer> the cards are just props
08:27 <GodTodd> yeah...that's why they're better done in person
08:27 <Lucifer> and I was soooooooooooooooooooooo right
08:27 <GodTodd> though as long as the energy flows right it can be done long distance
08:27 <Lucifer> what?  there's no energy, it's all a scam!
08:27 <Lucifer> well, the show business ones are scamming, they want to give a fluffy happy reading in exchange for a few coins
08:28 <Lucifer> the more serious guys are more like psychiatrists
08:28 <GodTodd> nah, there're scammers that do it but it is legit if done right
08:28 <Lucifer> just, using tarot cards.....
08:28 <Lucifer> no way!
08:28 <Lucifer> why am I suddenly surrounded by superstitions?  ;)
08:28 <GodTodd> what superstitions?
08:28 <GodTodd> no superstitions
08:31 <GodTodd> unless the harnessing of energy is superstitious
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13:20 <Flex> .ping
13:20 <tronner> pong
13:27 <joda_bot> Flex: hi
13:27 <Flex> hii
13:29 <Flex> http://flex.armagetron.co.uk/
14:06 <Vanhayes> happy america day americans
14:08 <joda_bot> Flex: can't u just get all server data in one go ?
14:09 <joda_bot> Flex: polling via javascript is very resource hungry
14:12 <Flex> i was thinking that, too
14:12 <joda_bot> Flex: did you write the php backend yourself ?
14:12 <Vanhayes> how do you get it to connect to the server?
14:13 <joda_bot> or does it use wrtlprnfts database ?
14:13 <Flex> no, it's dlh's work
14:13 <joda_bot> ah ok
14:13 <Flex> it's javascript, html and css
14:13 <Flex> pretty, good
14:13 <Flex> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19435
14:13 <joda_bot> Flex: it's more than that :D
14:14 <joda_bot> it requires php to query server with udp etc
14:14 <Flex> oh, yeah there's php too
14:14 <Flex> sorry
14:17 <Flex> would be nice if there was an option to hide the empty servers :p (hint: dlh)
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14:23 <Flex> madmax is a dick!
14:23 <Flex> all agree? yes?
14:23 <Flex> oops, he joined.. shhh
14:24  * madmax slaps Flex 
14:25 <Flex> you girl
14:26  * madmax drop kicks Flex 
14:26 <joda_bot> Flex: madmax: get a room :-P how about ct cat fight :D
14:27  * Flex steps out the way, performs a counter reverse kick
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14:37 <animuson> what was the site that listed all the arma classes and in the graphs and stuff?
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14:44 <animuson> nvm i found it
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15:20 <animuson> it wont let me send the authenticated name with the TEAM_SPAWNED writeout
15:21 <animuson> it keeps dying in-game
15:21 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m19684cf7
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15:29 <Flex> Vanhayes, when is the match btw?
15:30 <Vanhayes> uh, i think someone said 7 gmt
15:30 <Vanhayes> good thing you said something cause i completely forgot
15:30 <Flex> lol
15:30 <Vanhayes> madmax, MaZuffeR would you guys be able to play a practice match today?
15:31 <madmax> yes
15:31 <MaZuffeR> yes
15:31 <Flex> so when is it?
15:32 <Flex> dubs is also saying 7gmt
15:32 <Flex> is that settled, Vanhayes?
15:32 <Vanhayes> i thought you told me 7 gmt but maybe that was dubs
15:32 <Vanhayes> doesnt matter to me when
15:32 <Vanhayes> what time is it gmt right now?
15:32 <Vanhayes> 2?
15:32 <Vanhayes> 1?
15:32 <Flex> 2
15:33 <Flex> oh wait
15:33 <Flex> gmt is 1:32
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15:33 <Vanhayes> ok i told gari 11 or 12 his time so i hope i did my math correctly at 2 am last night
15:33 <Flex> so that's 3pm EST and 7pm GMT
15:33 <dubStep> lol.
15:33 <Vanhayes> 4pm my time
15:34 <Vanhayes> and 12 pst i think
15:34 <madmax> against who? sp?
15:34 <Vanhayes> so now we need to find sunny and we are good to go in 5 hours
15:34 <Flex> yeah
15:34 <Vanhayes> im assuming
15:34  * dubStep sings "im just a teenage dirtbag baby, listen to iron maiden baby with me, oooh"
15:35 <Vanhayes> man i am just not a good captain, my memory should be longer then 24 hours for this stuff
15:35 <dubStep> lmao
15:36 <Flex> we could do it at 8gmt
15:36 <Flex> so 4est
15:36 <Flex> or is it 7pm
15:37 <Flex> 4 est or 3 est Vanhayes? :p
15:37 <dubStep> gimme an oldschool band
15:37 <dubStep> like wheatus/sum 41
15:38 <dubStep> nvm i wana listen to msi ^^
15:40 <dubStep> gmt -1 or +1 bst?
15:40 <dubStep> i always forget :/
15:40 <Flex> we're +1 gmt
15:40 <dubStep> k
15:40 <Flex> it's 2:40 here, so gmt is 1:40 :P
15:41 <dubStep> captain obivous strikes again...
15:41 <Vanhayes> well im atlantic time
15:41 <dubStep> lol
15:41 <dubStep> jk
15:41 <dubStep> ^^
15:41 <Flex> you've just capped your questions for today. gz!
15:41 <dubStep> haha
15:41 <dubStep> no.
15:42 <dubStep> mr "i dont wana give you a reason because i just dont and i dont wana give you a reason for not giving you a reason"
15:42 <Flex> hah
15:42 <joda_bot> dubStep: are you ok? you sound crazy :D
15:42 <Vanhayes> http://graphjam.com/2009/05/26/song-chart-memes-geek-girl/   thought that was funnily true
15:42 <Flex> she is..
15:42 <dubStep> joda!
15:42 <Vanhayes> not sound, she is
15:42 <dubStep> flex, shut up.
15:42 <dubStep> hayes, dont get involved.
15:43 <dubStep> :)
15:43 <dubStep> i hate u both. u always pick on me.
15:43 <Flex> dubStep is looooose
15:43 <dubStep> ur ass is loose.
15:43 <Flex> lol.. is it..
15:43 <Vanhayes> why do you know that
15:43 <dubStep> zola told me
15:43 <dubStep> :p
15:43 <Flex> lmao
15:43 <dubStep> ^^
15:44 <Flex> Vanhayes, i've put down 3est.. sp clan practice starts at like 5est.. so maybe their might be confusion
15:44 <Flex> guess it doesn't hurt anyone if we delay it a few hours
15:44 <Flex> as long as they arrive
15:44 <Vanhayes> meh ill just show up and hope everyone else somehow figures it out on their own
15:46 <dubStep> lol
15:46 <dubStep> woot good captain :p
15:46 <Flex> dubs, quit smoking
15:46 <Vanhayes> captain of the year over hear
15:46 <dubStep> im not!
15:46 <Flex> you obviously can not handle it
15:46 <Vanhayes> here*
15:46 <dubStep> i havent even touched the freaking shisha
15:47 <dubStep> my cousin is hoggin it with his mate
15:47 <dubStep> besides im hungry iw ana cook but i waan talk
15:47 <Flex> damn hippies
15:47 <dubStep> i spose i might put my laptop in the kitchen
15:47 <Flex> while you make something?
15:47 <Flex> you fatty!
15:47 <Flex> constantly eating!
15:48 <dubStep> lol?
15:48 <dubStep> ok, mr stale quavers
15:48 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m19684cf7 <-- anyone know why this is dying in-game?
15:48 <Flex> random dubs.. random!
15:48 <Flex> don't know what you're talking about..
15:48 <dubStep> haha
15:48 <dubStep> sure.
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15:49 <dubStep> wait
15:49 <dubStep> flex.
15:49 <dubStep> its 14.49
15:49 <dubStep> u know what my day has consisted of.
15:49 <dubStep> i havent even eaten yet -.-'
15:49 <Flex> nothing?
15:50 <dubStep> so shut ur gob
15:50 <joda_bot> animuson: check that team is not null :D
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15:51 <dubStep> Flex: and not fatty coz my idiot cousin is ordering pizza, while im gona make food.
15:52 <Flex> is he paying?
15:52 <dubStep> yea hes 26 he can buy his own god damn food.
15:52 <dubStep> lol
15:52 <joda_bot> animuson: hm, can't be the mistake if the ladderLog code below was already there before
15:53 <dubStep> im gona kick him out when his mates come
15:53 <dubStep> coz i dont like em theyre dodgy
15:59 <Vanhayes> they dodge alot?
16:00 <dubStep> har
16:05 <animuson> it has to be that cause thats the only thing ive changed
16:05 <animuson> and it dies when it starts to spawn the teams
16:27 <animuson> ?
16:31 <joda_bot> animuson: did you add all of that code ?
16:31 <joda_bot> can you give me some more context ?
16:32 <joda_bot> was there a ladderlog at that spot before ?
16:32 <animuson> well hoop gave me the code for the original TEAM_SPAWNED output
16:32 <animuson> which is not originally part of the game
16:33 <animuson> its in src/tron/gGame.cpp
16:33 <animuson> in the init_game_object(eGrid* grid) function
16:33 <joda_bot> can you tell me which lines you added ?
16:33 <animuson> objects*
16:34 <animuson> i only added the stuff to output the authenticated name as well
16:34 <animuson> the original TEAM_SPAWNED line all through the team name works
16:36 <joda_bot> ah ok
16:36 <joda_bot> so the above is old and the code below is new ?
16:36 <animuson> yea
16:36 <joda_bot> probably team is not null then :D
16:37 <joda_bot> but there might be no player on the team
16:37 <joda_bot> and you call ladderPlayer->IsHuman()
16:37 <joda_bot> add atleast a check that laddlePlayer is not null
16:37 <animuson> so check if ladderPlayer is null?
16:38 <joda_bot> animuson: but what do you want to do with the oldest player's name ?
16:38 <joda_bot> if it works :D
16:39 <animuson> map statistics :P
16:39 <joda_bot> won't you need all the players on a team etc. ?
16:39 <animuson> eventually
16:39 <joda_bot> why add the oldest player to the team spawn output
16:39 <animuson> im just seeing if this works for now :P
16:39  * joda_bot is still confused :-)
16:40 <joda_bot> ah ok, just testing modifying the code ?
16:40 <animuson> :)
16:40 <animuson> i have all day to mess around with stuff XD
16:41 <animuson> no it still dies
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16:52 <animuson> how can i get the current round time rounded down?
16:54 <ct|kyle> animuson: the GAME_TIME
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17:12 <joda_bot> rounded down ?
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17:19 <animuson> is there a limit on how many access levels u can go down using config_accesslevel_#?
17:27 <K-Yo> .cfg2 config_acc
17:27 <tronner> K-Yo: Sorry, no matches :S
17:27 <K-Yo> animuson, what's that?
17:28 <animuson> its in the language files
17:28 <K-Yo> u mean for example "ACCESS_LEVEL config value" ?
17:28 <animuson> to define the access level names like Owner, Adminsitrator, et
17:28 <K-Yo> oh
17:28 <K-Yo> I don't know but I doubt there's a limit
17:29 <ct|kyle> i thought those were hard coded
17:29 <animuson> no :-/
17:29 <animuson> where u set someone's acess_level it just fetches the text from config_accesslevel_#
17:29 <animuson> u can even use negatives
17:30 <epsy> animuson, 25 afaik
17:31 <epsy> you can
17:31 <animuson> afaik?
17:31 <epsy> but it effectively denies anyone from using them
17:31 <epsy> as far as I know
17:31 <animuson> no my access_level is -1
17:31 <animuson> cause im special :P
17:31 <epsy> you shouldn't do that
17:32 <animuson> neways i tried opping someone to level 99 to see if itd go that high
17:32 <animuson> but it ops them to level 19 instead
17:32 <epsy> yeah
17:32 <animuson> so 25 is the limit?
17:32 <animuson> :(
17:32 <epsy> someone authenticated can't go worse 19 for obvious reasons
17:33 <epsy> but limit is 25 I think
17:33 <epsy> for some reason
17:34 <animuson> and why not use negatives?
17:34 <animuson> ive been using a negative for like 3 months now :P
17:35 <epsy> because negatives are used to set stuff to "impossible to use"
17:35 <epsy> it's your server anyway
17:39 <animuson> did the master servers just reset?
17:40 <animuson> i went to internet game and it said no servers found :-/
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18:39 <animuson> im having problems with a maze map generator i made
18:39 <animuson> all the walls render on the map
18:39 <animuson> but the actual walls the server uses r different
18:39 <animuson> so u like go through walls n stuff
18:40 <animuson> like figuring out the path without actually being able to see it
18:40 <animuson> it seems to put a different maze map into the server than the one that is displaying to the players
18:42 <epsy> like, the map the players will see next round?
18:48 <animuson> i dunno
18:48 <animuson> it just isnt the same map :-/
18:49 <epsy> version?
18:49 <animuson>
18:49 <epsy> how do you do map rotation?
18:49 <epsy> latest version is
18:50 <animuson> it uses tronners/mazing/Maze-(time).aamap.xml
18:50 <animuson> the php just puts the current timestamp in for (time)
18:50 <animuson> so it changes every round
18:51 <epsy> I'm asking how is the nextmap set
18:51 <animuson> when ROUND_COMMENCING is called it changes the map file
18:51 <epsy> is it put as MAP_FILE on the previous map's settings?
18:51 <epsy> better set it when a winner is announced
18:52 <epsy> or in the "wait for external script" pause
18:52 <epsy> that's the best moment to do it
18:52 <animuson> but when i disable map rotation so it justs sits on that one map
18:52 <animuson> it still does it
18:52 <animuson> and the invisible path stays the smae
18:52 <animuson> same*
18:52 <epsy> it stays so when you stay for more than one round?
18:53 <animuson> yea
18:53 <animuson> same visible map and same invisible map
18:53 <epsy> are resource_repository* vars the same?
18:54 <animuson> yea they are
18:54 <animuson> but would that make ne difference?
18:56 <animuson> if i save the generated xml to a file and load the actual file they seem to work fine tho
18:56 <epsy> wouldn't you be reusing the same resource names multiple times?
18:57 <animuson> no
18:57 <animuson> the timestamp is different every load
18:57 <epsy> clear your cache and try again
18:59 <epsy> Luke-Jr, have you made packages for ?
18:59 <epsy> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=19440
19:02 <Vanhayes> thats alot of numbers for one release
19:05 <madmax> btw, anything holding back? o_O
19:10 <epsy> idk, all bugs on launchpad targeted on .2.8.3 are closed
19:10 <epsy> bbl
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20:38 <madmax> Vanhayes: did you find sunny?
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20:40 <madmax> guess not. just told her on msn
20:52 <madmax> Flex: is it now?
20:53 <Flex> yeah, it should be
20:53 <Flex> there's some sp in-game atm
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20:59 <sunny> hey
20:59 <madmax> o/
20:59 <Flex> shall we give it another hour?
21:01 <Flex> sp have 5
21:02 <madmax> well right now it's me, sunny and perhaps MaZuffeR?
21:02 <madmax> van seems afk, and I don't know where gari is :P
21:02 <sunny> whats with dub?
21:03 <madmax> dubStep: are you there!
21:03 <sunny> ? :P
21:04 <sunny> when did u organise this match for today? :D
21:05 <Flex> for now
21:07 <sunny> i mean, when do you decide to play? yesterday? or what :D because max told it me 20 minutes ago
21:22 <Flex> i think it was a few days ago, but we didn't even remember the time
21:22 <sunny> lol
21:22 <sunny> kk
21:22 <Flex> Vanhayes must have a short term memory disorder! he forgot
21:23 <Flex> SP have 4
21:23 <Flex> if dubs shows up or vanhayes.. then you guys have 4 too
21:24 <Flex> right?
21:24 <sunny> oh really? nice calculating :P
21:24 <sunny> yea
21:24 <Flex> lol
21:24 <sunny> 3 + 1= 4
21:24 <sunny> musst be right
21:25 <Flex> i'm guessing you guys have 3
21:25 <Flex> it's not a calculation
21:25 <Flex> ok, nm now we have 3..
21:25 <sunny> lol
21:26 <Flex> madmax
21:26 <Flex> 3vs3 and we choose 3 more each?
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21:34 <madmax> meh, if there were more of us later it'd be better IMO
21:34 <madmax> but I'm playing right now anyway
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22:17 <sinewav> cafe
22:18 <ct|kyle> .tea
22:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): probablyworse
22:25 <Flex> madmax, we got 5 now, ready to play
22:25 <dubStep> erm... soz i wasnt here :S
22:25 <Flex> i think dubs is back^
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22:26 <Flex> shall we go and just get extra's?
22:26 <dubStep> no......... defeats the object of practice match if u dont play with the team ur playign with tomorrow =P
22:26 <dubStep> playing*
22:27 <Flex> it's still worth it, trust me
22:28 <dubStep> where anyway? ur server?
22:29 <Flex> yeah, we'll be there
22:29 <dubStep> lol so.... now im back... wheres everybody else?
22:29 <dubStep> ^^
22:30 <Flex> Vanhayes, madmax, MaZuffeR, sunny
22:30 <dubStep> nvm i see max and sunny in ds fort
22:32 <dubStep> madmax: :) u there?
22:33 <madmax> hey, i was playing a match heh
22:33 <madmax> hmm i can go, although i haven't had dinner yet :<
22:34 <dubStep> :(
22:34  * madmax is there
22:34 <madmax> lol where's van?
22:36 <dubStep> i have no idea.......
22:36 <dubStep> lol.
22:36 <dubStep> Vanhayes: !!!
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22:55 <Lucifer> happy Fuck the Monarchy Day!
22:57 <Luke-Jr> http://tinyurl.com/dadlv6
22:57 <sinewav> I burn a British flag every 4th of July.
23:02 <PinkTomato> :'(
23:03 <PinkTomato> we hate our Monarch too!
23:05 <Luke-Jr> pfft
23:05 <Luke-Jr> you don't have a monarchy anymore
23:06 <Luke-Jr> you have some kind of pseudo-democracy/idiocracy
23:07 <sinewav> oh wow, I just realized I've been driving without my driver's license for a month.
23:07 <Luke-Jr> ROFL
23:07 <sinewav> I just found it in my scanner bed
23:07 <Luke-Jr> I did that once.
23:07 <Luke-Jr> left it on the...scanner
23:07 <Luke-Jr> LOL
23:07 <sinewav> hahha
23:07 <PinkTomato> Luke-Jr, no republican MP can enter parliament without swearing oath to the queen.
23:08 <Luke-Jr> PinkTomato: so?
23:08 <Luke-Jr> does the queen herself have any real power?
23:08 <Luke-Jr> no
23:09 <PinkTomato> It's not so much power, more class.
23:10 <PinkTomato> I guess.
23:10 <PinkTomato> It also does not seem democratic to me for all MPs to have to agree to support the Queen.
23:10 <Luke-Jr> shrug, I said pseudo-
23:11 <Luke-Jr> democracy is evil anyhow
23:11 <Luke-Jr> inevitably, it is the same as idiocracy
23:13 <PinkTomato> Luke-Jr, sorry missed the pseudo bit :). Yeah, there are those 48% of people views not represented, and it seems too many people vote to keep the other person out.
23:14 <Luke-Jr> there's also the fact that 99% of people are idiots
23:17 <Lucifer> actually, since intelligence follows the classic bell curve, there are the same number of idiots in the world as there are geniuses
23:17 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer: from the high end of the spectrum, everyone else looks like an idiot
23:17 <Luke-Jr> :þ
23:18 <MaZuffeR> you can be an idiot even if you are intelligent
23:18 <Lucifer> ironically, the spectrum looks the same from the low end too
23:18 <Lucifer> are you sure you're on the high end?
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23:19 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer: depends on the field ;)
23:20  * Lucifer needs to make another list for the grocery store to accomodate the things he forgot yesterday
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23:22 <Lucifer> boom locka chika locka one is now three
23:30 <Flex> epsy, was it your idea to have unlimited chat time during a round in the ladle cfg's?
23:30 <sunny> wft u cant shut up??? -.-
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23:31 <Flex> me sunny?
23:31 <Flex> huh?
23:31 <sunny> you= all of them u too
23:31 <epsy> Flex, 60 seconds
23:31 <sunny> at the server not here
23:32 <Flex> it was only 1 person
23:32 <noob13> 10 seconds max if u ask me..
23:32 <Flex> oblivion was AFK
23:32 <noob13> ppl need to type faster :P
23:32 <epsy> is it ladle?
23:32 <Flex> seemed like longer than 60 seconds, epsy
23:32 <Flex> using ladle23-3.cfg
23:32 <dubStep> 60 seconds is stupid :/
23:32 <epsy> well, don't use configs supposed for tourneys in public games
23:32 <Flex> 30seconds seems OK
23:32 <madmax> great, now I'm eating pizza
23:32 <Flex> it wasn't a public game
23:32 <dubStep> and tron seconds dont = real seconds...  i swear they seem longer
23:33 <Flex> do you expect the other team to wait 60secs for someone
23:33 <Flex> 30seconds should be max
23:33 <epsy> you may have something long to say
23:33 <epsy> and hitting the limit is really annoying
23:33 <Flex> not for a whole 1 minute
23:33 <epsy> also
23:33 <epsy> if someone afk is on chatbot
23:33 <epsy> you can silence him
23:34 <epsy> the server will ignore silenced people for that
23:34 <Flex> 60 seconds, too long
23:34 <Flex> needs to be shortened
23:34 <epsy> imo it'd be unlimited
23:34 <epsy> no the config's fault if it's used for the wrong purpose
23:34 <epsy> not
23:36 <Flex> this was a Ladle environment.. we're talking about a ladle match, too
23:36 <epsy> we're sunday already?
23:37 <Flex> sorry, is it my english or you just don't understand me.. or is it you
23:37 <epsy> ladle matches happen on sundays
23:37 <epsy> and afaik we're satursday
23:38 <epsy> anyway nobody is meant to go afk on ladle
23:38 <Flex> this was a ladle practice, and it was a ladle enviroment..
23:38 <Flex> what is so hard to understand about that?
23:38 <epsy> it's hard to understand that when you're not telling that
23:41 <epsy> anyways: 1/ if it was a public game a ladle config shouldn't have been used
23:42 <epsy> 2/ if it was a serious match the player should have gona spectator
23:42 <epsy> and anyway you can silence him to prevent him from using wait time
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23:44 <Flex> as i said, it was a ladle practice/test enviroment. i wouldn't be talking about settings on a server that i can easly change, point is.. it's not acceptable to allow someone to take that long. that's the whole point
23:44 <epsy> then don't allow him to use chatbot time
23:45 <dubStep> epsy: if someone is on chatbot and u silence them before the time then boom, you have a non grinder...
23:45 <epsy> ...
23:45 <epsy> either you want him to not use the time
23:45 <epsy> either you want him to use it
23:45 <sunny> just change it epsy
23:45 <Flex> silencing someone causes issues.. there should be a rule to how long they can chat. they can use their time and be done with it
23:46 <Flex> why are you getting admins involved
23:46 <epsy> you can't have that without wait time
23:46 <dubStep> if the time isnt availiable, people wont take the piss with chat wait. if u know u have 60 secs to mess around then u use 60 secs
23:46 <dubStep> if u know u have 20 or 30 then u take less time...
23:46 <Flex> this is stupid. 60seconds is too long, i'll speak to durka and make it 30
23:46 <Flex> end this discussion. all i wanted to know if it was your idea
23:47 <epsy> haha
23:47 <dubStep> its not funny......
23:47 <epsy> [01:46] <Flex>: end this discussion. all i wanted to know if it was your idea
23:47 <epsy> that's 100% flex
23:48 <dubStep> well, he did say it didnt he?
23:48 <dubStep> brb "Waiting up to 60seconds for dubStep to finish chatting"
23:48 <dubStep> ^^
23:49 <epsy> well you don't go brb on a ladle
23:49 <dubStep> yea... ppl do
23:49 <dubStep> anyway
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23:49 <dubStep> brb
23:49 <epsy> their problem then

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00:00 <Flex> is that how you justify it? you make a time limit that's too long and then it's their problem? they're using the time that is given to them. and 60 seconds is way too long. the opponents do not wish to wait that long nor do they have to.
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00:07 <dubStep> still talking about this? just get rid of it. its too long, end of.
00:09 <Flex> no, if it was his idea, i just wanted to hear him out, before i go and ask for it to be shortened.. no use talking, apart from that..
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00:17 <madmax> .si -v flex
00:17 <tronner> madmax: Ladle 23 (Flex\'s Server) (rps444.ovh.net:4534) running 0.2.8_alpha20090628 unix dedicated, url: http://flex.armagetron.co.uk, Description: “Hosted and administrated by Flex. Based in Paris, France (Europe).“, Players (0/32):
00:20 <Flex> was it ok for you madmax?
00:20 <madmax> the server? yeah
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01:34 <noob13> ct|kyle: P4: could i get a temporary /op at CT1? :) We'd like to have a practise...
01:35 <noob13> nevermind.
01:40 <Vanhayes> ha wow, sorry madmax Flex dubStep and all
01:40 <Flex> we won
01:40 <Vanhayes> what was the score?
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01:45 <Flex> first one was close, second one was a clean sweep to us. you guys were only 4 though
01:45 <Flex> (that's what they wanted.. didn't want to invite randoms)
01:50 <Vanhayes> who played madmax sunny dubStep and mazuffer?
01:51 <Flex> yup
02:00 <madmax> hey van, np
02:01 <madmax> (although sunny talked about throwing you off a cliff or something)
02:01 <P4> noob13: hum?
02:01 <P4> what CT1?
02:01 <P4> oh, the ladle servers
02:02 <sunny> i talked about what??
02:02 <madmax> lol
02:02 <sunny> ?
02:02 <madmax> j/k
02:02 <sunny> äh kk xD
02:03 <sunny> yea van is guilty
02:09 <Flex> äh
02:09 <epsy> eh
02:14 <Flex> http://news.uk.msn.com/in-pictures/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=14362898&imageindex=14
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03:02 <dubStep> Vanhayes: T_T
03:05 <ct|kyle> Flex: a little late, but that looks like fun :)
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23:13 <noob13> #hi
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23:38 <noob13> i was trying to greet armabot.. she's back too!
23:38 <noob13> #echo hi
23:38 <armabot> hi
23:38 <nsh22> hey armabot
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23:39 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
23:39 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Barrie - South End, Barrie, Ontario is 74.7°F (5:10 PM EDT on July 09, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Falling).
23:39 <nsh22> #si night
23:39 <armabot> nsh22: ~Night Walker's Central~DF~: Players (7/10): Death, dßdMått, Quikster, strawbs, Teh_Dude, ~*Fight, ~*J0KeR*~
23:39 <nsh22> #ls zurd
23:40 <armabot> nsh22: Zurd has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 12 hours 54 minutes ago.
23:40 <nsh22> #ls neal
23:40 <armabot> nsh22: Neal~WwR has last been seen on  ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ 2 hours 28 minutes ago.
23:41 <nsh22> #ls Luke-Jr
23:42 <armabot> nsh22: timed out
23:43 <noob13> #ls noob-
23:43 <noob13> ops.
23:43 <noob13> nevermind.
23:43 <noob13> #tea
23:43 <noob13> #sd fort
23:43 <nsh22> Luke-Jr: is there a windows version of your spinning square map client?
23:43 <armabot> noob13: timed out
23:43 <armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:43 <armabot> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress: Players (11/32): *whisper*, -»|viper, .×] $ubzero, .×] Liza (Liza@x/member), AUSTRALOPITECO, CT_joda.bot, JS, Radian +, xgeriuz, ~*Sasha*~ (Sasha@forums), ~|DS|~Novocaine
23:43 <nsh22> armabot is slow today
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Log from 2009-07-10:
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02:43 <Lucifer> #ping
02:43 <armabot> pong
02:47 <Lucifer> why are my google voice settings taking so long to load?
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03:05 <Lucifer> #ping'
03:05 <Lucifer> #ping
03:05 <armabot> pong
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03:18 <K-Yo> <Lucifer> #ping
03:18 <K-Yo> <armabot> pong
03:18 <K-Yo> * tronner est parti (Excess Flood)
03:18 <K-Yo> o_O
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03:44 <Lucifer> someone want to call my new phone number for me?
03:44 <Lucifer> I want to see if this other phone rings at the same time as my cell phone :)
03:48 <sinewav> oh ok
03:49 <Lucifer> 512-234-3004
03:49 <sinewav> now?
03:49 <Lucifer> yes?  ;)
03:49 <sinewav> 3-2-1
03:49 <sinewav> go!
03:50 <sinewav> hows that?
03:50 <Lucifer> thanks, worked beautifully :)
03:50 <sinewav> glad to help
03:50 <Lucifer> it's my new google voice number, I wanted to see how it actually worked with two separate phones in it
03:50 <sinewav> oh neat
03:50 <Lucifer> sho' nuff, they both rang, and when I answered one, the other stopped ringing
03:50 <sinewav> interesting.
03:51  * Lucifer cues luke-jr bitching because he didn't get his invite yet
03:51 <sinewav> I know how to ask if I ever need such a thing
03:51 <sinewav> who*
03:55 <Lucifer> this google voice thing is neat
03:55 <Lucifer> I think I'm going to try placing a call now and see what happens
04:14 <Lucifer> that was neat, worked very well
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04:20 <ct|kyle> sinewav: wanna race or are you busy?
04:21 <sinewav> um... I need about 10 minutes.
04:21 <sinewav> gotta start up my laundry.
04:21 <ct|kyle> sure just ping when you are ready
04:33 <Lucifer> sinewav: hey, when you called, did you hear the message "This call is being recorded", or was that only to me?
04:34 <sinewav> it said something like "voice recoring begining"
04:35 <sinewav> there was no beep, or no beep that I heard. there was a little silence, and I hung up
04:37 <Lucifer> hmmmm, I don't like that
04:37 <Lucifer> I wonder if there's a way to suppress the notification
04:41 <Lucifer> no way to suppress the notification, so I sent them feedback asking for it
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04:42 <sinewav> ct|kyle: start yer engines
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04:44 <ct|kyle> sinewav: ok
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05:10 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
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05:29 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer: actually, I have 3 invites with no immediate use
05:29 <Luke-Jr> ]later tell nsh22 fail
05:29 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: The operation succeeded.
05:31 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer: I think the notification is to cover their legal butts
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06:15 <Lucifer> Luke-Jr: across all jurisdictions, sure, but in Texas, only one person is required to know the conversation is being recorded
06:15 <Lucifer> and it's really about what's admissible as evidence in court, but what's the use of recording a conversation if ultimately putting it in court isn't an option?
06:18 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer: to review later
06:19 <Luke-Jr> and how does Google know the caller is in Texas? ;)
06:19 <Luke-Jr> area code can be spoofed or inaccurate
06:34 <Lucifer> I asked them for another option to the menu, not to replace the one that's there
06:47 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/turtle/classic/sumo-faceoff-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by turtle
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07:25 <Lucifer> heh
07:25 <Lucifer> "There's nothing my God cannot do."
07:25 <Lucifer> yes there is, he can't make *me* believe in him
07:36 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping again
07:36 <Lucifer> (he's probably out of town or something, I'll bet)
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09:24 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
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09:44 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping again!
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09:50 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong again
09:51 <Lucifer> why did konversation stop automatically opening tabs for me for private messages?  :(
09:52 <GodTodd> i'm still trying to figure out why my knetworkmanager doesn't start on boot :/
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13:57 <Lucifer> #ping
13:58 <armabot> pong
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14:16 <Lucifer> #ping
14:16 <armabot> pong
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14:45 <Lucifer> #ping
14:45 <armabot> pong
14:50 <joda_bot> #pong
14:51  * Lucifer wants to annoy joda by pronouncing the name "joda" with an English J, but can't because this is irc.
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16:57 <Luke-Jr> juh oh dah
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18:56 <epsy> http://tinyarro.ws/
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19:43 <epsy> time to burry teabot
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19:45 <epsy> it won't burry ;(
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20:29 <sunny> blub
20:34 <epsy> counterblub
20:37 <sunny> ^^
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23:59 <sunny> foooooooooooooooort?
23:59 <sunny> who want to play fort wih me?

Log from 2009-07-11:
--- Day changed Sat Jul 11 2009
00:13 <sunny> epsyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
00:13 <sunny> kyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyle
00:13 <sunny> kyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooo
00:13 <sunny> madmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax
00:13 <sunny> noooooooooooooooooooob13
00:14 <madmax> hah, you're really desperate
00:14 <sunny> noooooooo?! :D
00:14 <sunny> maybe
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00:19 <sunny> so u will come?
00:19 <sunny> cool
00:19 <sunny> ds mega sumo
00:19 <sunny> :P
00:20 <madmax> busy :P
00:20 <sunny> bad excuse
00:21 <madmax> ...a plane just crashed next door?
00:22 <epsy> sunny, that doesn't highlight me more than just " epsy " (and actually that didn't highlight me at all)
00:23 <epsy> :|
00:23 <sunny> so ignore me :P
00:23  * epsy ignores sunny 
00:23 <sunny> *THUMBS UP*
00:23 <epsy> =]
00:24 <epsy> sunny must be superhappy now
00:24 <sunny> why
00:24 <epsy> [02:23] <sunny>: *THUMBS UP*
00:24 <sunny> ah
00:24 <epsy> memory fails you :D
00:24 <sunny> i want back to germany :(
00:24 <epsy> already?
00:24 <sunny> im s bored
00:24 <epsy> and because it rains? =)
00:25 <sunny> yea
00:26 <epsy> heh :)
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00:27 <sunny> haha u didnt ignore me :P
00:27 <epsy> bout time you figure it out :DD
00:33 <epsy> .sd fort
00:33 <tronner> epsy: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (10/32): -=}ID< Tremor, .×] $ubzero, .×] Hoax, .×] Liza, akira, killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), Revolutionary (dubStep@ct), sunnygirl, ~*Sasha*~ (Sasha@forums), ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
00:33 <epsy> I killed teabot today
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00:38 <epsy> everybody, especially it's owner, is very sad
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00:57 <madmax> .as
00:57 <tronner> madmax: This data is 29 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (16/32), Wild West  =Sumo= (8/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< (7/16), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (7/10), WILDCAT (5/8), -->Gods Of Tron<-- High Rubber (5/14), internalDrive -=- iD Tech Camps (4/16), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (3/16), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (1 more message)
00:57 <madmax> .si mega fort
00:57 <tronner> madmax: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (16/32): .×] $ubzero, .×] Hoax (Hoax@forums), .×] Liza, .pRu|Hell-lo, akira, Binford, CT×ZaP, killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), MaZuffeR, N0S3X!, Nipplefart III, Richie, sunnygirl, ~*CyBeRSeX*~, ~*Sasha*~ (Sasha@forums), ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
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02:35 <Vanhayes> .as
02:35 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 32 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (14/32), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (9/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (8/16), PLUS + ¦Fortress¦ (7/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/12), Wild West  =Fortress= (6/24), tronners->racing (6/11), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (5/8), Wall Tiger Land (5/16), -=OKO=-AnD=-415=-HiGhRuBbEr (5/16), (1 more message)
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03:54 <noob13> .sd fort
03:54 <tronner> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (7/32): .×] $ubzero, .×] Hoax, huup, madmax, nara, `Ww punish, ~|DS|~biZz
04:06 <epsy> anyone for actual fortress?
04:07 <noob13> whats inactual about DSMF?
04:11 <epsy> they're playing FFA
04:14 <ct|kyle> epsy: FFA?
04:14 <epsy> rather TLMS :)
04:15 <epsy> team last man standing
04:15 <ct|kyle> oh
04:16 <ct|kyle> epsy: is there anyway I can check the userlevel of a command sent by a player when it is being read into the server config?
04:17 <Vanhayes> madmax, how did you find that pony game?
04:17 <epsy> what?
04:18 <epsy> Vanhayes, google exploding poneys brought him this
04:18 <ct|kyle> epsy: for instance if command SAY is used by a moderator having it say Moderator instead of Admin
04:18 <epsy> ah
04:18 <epsy> no
04:18 <epsy> er
04:18 <epsy> maybe
04:18 <epsy> :)
04:18 <ct|kyle> heh
04:18 <Vanhayes> i dont think id want to see the results for that
04:18 <epsy> tCurrentAccessLevel
04:32 <Lucifer> #seen GodTodd
04:32 <armabot> Lucifer: GodTodd was last seen in #armagetron 18 hours, 39 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <GodTodd> i'm still trying to figure out why my knetworkmanager doesn't start on boot :/
04:32 <ct|kyle> cool thanks epsy :)
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04:33 <madmax> Vanhayes: another forum I go to, someone mentioned it in a game thread
04:34 <Vanhayes> heh ok, was going to say you would have to search for something pretty wierd to just randomly find that
04:34 <ct|kyle> it lookst like it is based on some chico map
04:35 <madmax> haha
04:35 <Lucifer> damn
04:36 <Lucifer> so, to make buttermilk, you put 1 tablespoon of vinegar in a cup, then fill it to the one-cup mark with regular milk
04:36 <Lucifer> but the recipe only calls for 2/3 cup of buttermilk, so how much vinegar do I need?
04:36  * Lucifer is having trouble putting the equation together, probably because he's not working it out on paper
04:36 <Lucifer> and I don't want to throw away approximately 1/3 cup of milk
04:39 <Lucifer> ok, got it, I need 2 teaspoons of vinegar
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04:44  * ct|kyle does not want to eat Lucifer's cookings
04:45 <Lucifer> why not?
04:45 <Lucifer> once I put it on paper, I got it
04:45 <Lucifer> what was dumb about it was that I knew there were 3 teaspoons in 1 tablespoon, if I had thought about that, I wouldn't have needed to do it on paper with algebra :)
04:46 <ct|kyle> ya I missread the table or tea
04:46 <ct|kyle> I thougth you were putting twice as much in for not as much
04:47 <Lucifer> haha, oops
04:47 <ct|kyle> I was on;y slightly glancing at it though
04:47 <ct|kyle> only*
04:47 <Lucifer> ah, ok
04:48 <Lucifer> if I successfully convert this recipe to regular milk from buttermilk, I'll send it to my mom to put in the family cookbook
04:48 <Lucifer> the biscuit recipe that's there requires shortening, and I prefer biscuits with oil because they're easier to cook
04:48 <Lucifer> (buttermilk is out of the question for a family that's almost completely lactose intolerant)
04:49 <Lucifer> (regular milk is fine because I can buy it with the lactose removed)
04:51 <ct|kyle> I never knew that
04:55 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: I thought the buttermilk was the leftover fluid when shaking some extra heavy wipping cream into butter. how is viniger and milk going to make that?
05:19 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: you're correct on what buttermilk was originally
05:20 <Lucifer> it has a high content of lactic acid, which is what gives it the peculiar baking qualities it has
05:20 <Lucifer> it doesn't actually have any butter in it :)
05:20 <Lucifer> the mass produced buttermilk is regular milk with lactic acid added
05:20 <Lucifer> some mass produced buttermilk is regular milk that's gone through a particular process to produce the acid "naturally"
05:21 <Lucifer> the really expensive buttermilk is traditional buttermilk
05:21 <ct|kyle> ah
05:21 <Lucifer> so, vinegar has a high acid content, and the particular acid in vinegar (I forget what it is) happens to give regular milk the same peculiar baking properties as the cheap buttermilk
05:22 <Lucifer> so by mixing vinegar and milk and letting it stand for 10 minutes or so, you get something that's a reasonable facsimile of the mass produced cheap stuff
05:22 <ct|kyle> so is the vinager your replacement for the lactic acid then?
05:22 <Lucifer> yes
05:22 <Lucifer> the question I have, though, is that since that particular substitution usually uses whole milk, does it make a difference I use milk that doesn't have lactose in it
05:22 <Lucifer> i.e. is lactose required to make it work the way it does
05:22 <Lucifer> it is required to make regular buttermilk, after all
05:23 <Lucifer> (lactose is just a sugar.  All the "ose" suffixes denote sugars, sucrose, glucose, dextrose, etc)
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21:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Durka/ctf/fortfzx-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
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04:32 <epsy> I suppose the _arma didn't mean you were playing arma
04:34 <Lucifer> no, it was my old name when there was someone who already had the nick Lucifer
04:34 <epsy> yeah :[
04:34 <Lucifer> the _arma meant "Lucifer from Armagetron Advanced"
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15:11 <Vanhayes> good game, good game
15:13 <PinkTomato> | .
15:26 <madmax>    .|
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19:58 <nsh22> Luke-Jr: quick question: i sthere a law agianst phishing?
19:58 <Luke-Jr> nsh22: yes, it's called fraud
19:58 <nsh22> well, wat if it was for a tron forum (ID got phished again)
19:58 <Luke-Jr> …
19:58 <Luke-Jr> nsh22: yes, it's called fraud
19:59 <nsh22> even if it doesnt involve money?
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20:22 <madmax> nsh22: did you go phishing this weekend?
20:23 <nsh22> madmax: lol no, but someone went phishing on ID forums
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21:40 <sunny> someone here?
21:43 <sunny> dabie
21:43 <ct|kyle> oi sunny
21:44 <sunny> hey kyle
21:51 <ct|kyle> is sunny board again?
21:51 <sunny> nah
21:51 <epsy> sine_awave, do you have a ctf team?
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22:14 <Delta> hi all
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22:14 <Delta> yo psyk
22:15 <PsYkO> whatup
22:17 <Lucifer> that's not whatup, that's Delta
22:19 <sunny> delta join
22:19 <Delta> k
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22:38 <Vanhayes> .as
22:38 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 158 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/12), |FA| Black Tar! (7/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/16), ~~M0$t Wànt3d~~ (7/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (6/12), Ladle 23 (Crazy Tronners Server 1) (6/24), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (5/10), WILDCAT (5/8), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a (1 more message)
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22:57 <sine_awave> epsy: yeah, you want in? sign yourself up.
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22:58 <epsy> okay :]
23:04 <Luke-Jr> ROFL
23:04 <Luke-Jr> VAServ/fsckVPS is forcing everyone onto KVM
23:05 <Luke-Jr> second screwup in 3 months
23:05 <PinkTomato> Luke-Jr, KVM?
23:06 <Luke-Jr> PinkTomato: qemu
23:06 <PinkTomato> O.o
23:06 <PinkTomato> I'll be leaving then
23:06 <Luke-Jr> heh, my thoughts exactly
23:06 <Luke-Jr> Xen is laggy enough
23:06 <Luke-Jr> let alone KVM
23:06 <Luke-Jr> PinkTomato: you didn't get an email?
23:07 <PinkTomato> Luke-Jr, just got it now :)
23:08  * Luke-Jr ponders if he should run a special again
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23:30 <Vanhayes> .as
23:30 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 46 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega TeamSumo (13/32), Clan War mW vs CD (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (6/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< (6/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (4/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (3/16), ~Night Walker's (1 more message)
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23:31 <Vanhayes> hmm i cant seem to see DS server right now...

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03:14 <epsy> anyone has bash 4 here?
03:15 <Luke-Jr> ö
03:16 <epsy> ö ?
03:21 <epsy> @bugs.. err
03:21 <epsy> .help bugs
03:21 <tronner> epsy: (bugs <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "ss Bugfarm Fortress".
03:21 <epsy> .
03:21 <epsy> ]help bugs
03:21 <ljrbot> epsy: Error: There is no command "bugs".
03:22 <epsy> ]alias add bugs google site:https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/ $*
03:22 <ljrbot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
03:22 <epsy> ]alias add bugs "google site:https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/ $*"
03:22 <ljrbot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
03:22 <Luke-Jr> fail
03:22 <epsy> ]bugs buggy usernames
03:22 <ljrbot> epsy: Error: "google" is not a valid command.
03:22 <epsy> ]apropos google
03:22 <ljrbot> epsy: No appropriate commands were found.
03:22 <Luke-Jr> lulz
03:23 <epsy> ]list
03:23 <ljrbot> epsy: Admin, Alias, Bible, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Network, Owner, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Status, Stock, String, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, and Yandere
03:23 <epsy> ]list bible
03:23 <ljrbot> epsy: bible and search
03:23 <epsy>  ]alias add bugs "bible search site:https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/ $*"
03:23 <Luke-Jr> wtf
03:23 <epsy> #alias add bugs "google site:https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/ $*"
03:23 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
03:24 <epsy> hi armabot
03:24 <epsy> #bugs buggy usernames
03:24 <armabot> epsy: Error: The command "bugs" is available in the Alias and Sourceforge plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "bugs".
03:24 <epsy> #defaultplugin bugs alias
03:24 <armabot> epsy: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
03:24 <epsy> :[
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03:24 <epsy> #alias bugs buggy usernames
03:24 <armabot> epsy: No matches found. (Search took 0.20 seconds)
03:24 <epsy> ah
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03:25 <epsy> #bugs username deopping
03:25 <armabot> epsy: Error: The command "bugs" is available in the Alias and Sourceforge plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "bugs".
03:25 <epsy> #alias bugs username deopping
03:25 <armabot> epsy: No matches found. (Search took 0.20 seconds)
03:26 <epsy> meh, I'll just set a search for that in my superbrowser
03:26 <Luke-Jr> XD
03:31 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/armagetronad/+milestone/
03:31 <epsy> did it detect our NEWS file? (click "View the full changelog")
03:45 <epsy> anyway, if anybody has bash 4, he should try ./configure'ing trunk and report back if it works or not
03:45 <epsy> night
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04:37 <dlh> #m epsy configuring trunk with bash 4.0.24 worked for me.
04:37 <armabot> dlh: The operation succeeded.
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07:27  * Lucifer loves his google voice phone
07:27 <Lucifer> Luke-Jr: did you get your google voice invite yet?
07:28 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer: 4 of them
07:29 <Lucifer> really?
07:29 <Luke-Jr> in addition to my GrandCentral upgrade
07:29 <Luke-Jr> yep
07:29 <Lucifer> did you set it up then?
07:29 <Lucifer> wait, you already had GrandCentral?
07:29 <Luke-Jr> I upgraded my GC account
07:29 <Luke-Jr> haven't used invites yet
07:29 <Luke-Jr> yeah
07:29 <Lucifer> I only got the one invite, I think
07:29  * Lucifer goes to reread the email, if he has more, he intends to pass them out
07:29 <Luke-Jr> I got one per request I made :þ
07:30 <Luke-Jr> luke_gc1@, luke_gc2@, etc
07:31 <Luke-Jr> http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/al-lewis-wells-fargo-bank-sues/
07:31 <Luke-Jr> night
07:32 <Lucifer> isn't this kind of early for you to be going to bed?
07:36 <Lucifer> awww, only got one invite
07:37 <Lucifer> had I thought I could get more, I think I would have done that
07:37  * Lucifer has never done this google invite thing before, but remembers how badly people wanted gmail invites
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14:28 <Vanhayes> antone else find it extremly funny ID got rick rolled?
14:28 <Vanhayes> anyone*
14:34 <epsy> rickrolls qualify as "old" imo
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14:37 <Vanhayes_> epsy, ya same here, but still it seems pretty random that an armagetron clan's forums gets rick rolled
14:39 <epsy> link?
14:45 <Vanhayes_> well I wouldnt go to it since you have to ctrl alt delete it to close it, well i did anyways
14:46 <Vanhayes_> it was actually pretty funny, all it was on the page was his music video, a few pictures of his face and constant pop ups of the lyrics
14:48 <Vanhayes_> http://www.armagetronad.net/links.php  the link for Imortal Dynasty is on there if you really want to see it
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15:02 <noob13> heh, click it you did, epsy?
15:02 <noob13> Vanhayes_: yes, its extremely funny :P
15:10 <epsy> noob13, no, my mouse stopped working
15:12 <epsy> it's not THAT bad
15:25 <Vanhayes_> no its more funny then anything
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20:03  * epsy sinewaves
20:03 <nsh22> haha
20:07 <epsy> ;)
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20:51 <sinewav> heh
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21:41 <Luke-Jr> ]admin ignore add *!*@
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16:52 <Vanhayes> .as
16:52 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 70 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (8/32), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (3/16), Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU] (3/32), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), |FA| Black Tar! (2/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag Advanced!= (2/12), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (2/9), Swampland Mud Puddle (1 more message)
16:52 <Vanhayes> .si mega
16:52 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (9/32): -»|Xyrøn (Xyron@ct), .×] nub (PlayerNub@forums), <y<lops (user@tronner.com), baSsline (dubStep@ct), CT_B3eR (luiso@ct), freetosk8brd, JS, lagfest, szopin
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17:56 <nsh22> .as
17:56 <tronner> nsh22: This data is 48 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (13/32), tronners->racing (9/11), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (7/9), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (6/12), Ladle 23 (Z-Man's Server) (6/24), Wild West  =Sumo Saloon= (5/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< http://idclansite.co.cc (5/16), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (3/16), jcob join (2/16), [] Cheers! (1 more message)
17:56 <nsh22> .more
17:56 <tronner> nsh22: [] The friendly server. (2/12), thomas (1/16), |FA| Devils Rings! (1/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (1/16), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (1/8), WILDCAT (1/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (1/8), Twist Of Fate (1/16)
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18:13 <dubStep> Vanhayes: tell me when people stop messing around in there...
18:13 <Vanhayes> dubStep, i left
18:14 <epsy> haha
18:14 <dubStep> why?
18:14 <dubStep> theyre annoying the hell out of me ><
18:14 <Vanhayes> it got to be 4 on 4
18:14 <dubStep> talking in bright red oO
18:14 <Vanhayes> well beer kept locking the team and univiting people
18:14 <dubStep> hmm
18:15 <dubStep> i silenced him maybe twice for messing around, and /deop like 8 times
18:15 <dubStep> but i cant keep logging people out for messing around
18:15 <dubStep> G5: are you there?
18:16 <G5> yep
18:17 <dubStep> i think you should consider removing the "login to /lock and /uninvite"
18:17 <dubStep> because, people sre starting to abuse it, and it sooooo annoying ><
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18:18 <G5> Yeah, I know ... but others use it wisely ... difficult ...
18:18 <G5> I had the hope that lots of mods/admin can handle the abusers.
18:19 <dubStep> there are lots of mods, i think if someone wanted to war there, there is always a mod...
18:19 <dubStep> meh, well today it was kinda hard, because no matter how much i force someone to logout they can just log back in and continue
18:19 <G5> kick em ...
18:20 <G5> But ok, I'll remove /lock etc. for "remote users" for now ...
18:20 <dubStep> ehh, i hate kicking people... because they come back and they say "im going to get ur powers taken away" blah blah blah, i never know if when i feel its right to kick is actually the right time to kick, or if im being hasty etc
18:20 <G5> (I'll leave it on in Mega Team Sumo ... there it makes more sense.)
18:21 <dubStep> k
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18:22 <G5> Dubs: You wont have you powers removed. I know you are serious and responsible
18:22 <G5> *your
18:22 <nsh22> lol
18:23 <nsh22> you dont know her very well do you :P
18:23 <dubStep> ...
18:23 <nsh22> jkjk
18:23 <nsh22> <3
18:23 <dubStep> </3
18:23 <nsh22> :(
18:23 <G5> But if you see other mods f*ck around, tell me ... guys like mµth
18:23 <dubStep> hmm, imo there are too many mods
18:23 <G5> nsh22: She is - as an Arma admin at least ;)
18:24 <dubStep> mµth is a bad mod
18:24 <nsh22> lol i know, but she used to be a sh!t disturber and admin abuser :P
18:24 <dubStep> not really
18:24 <dubStep> because i never had admin untill like this year maybe?
18:24 <nsh22> when you were with the ID guys?
18:24 <dubStep> yea well ID is a clan full of shit disturbers what do you expect
18:24 <G5> µ
18:24 <G5> oops
18:25 <nsh22> you guys found out a pass to a server and f*cked around in there
18:25 <dubStep> no
18:25 <dubStep> thats isnt what happaned at all
18:25 <dubStep> the server belonged to code red and he told ME the password
18:25 <nsh22> oh
18:25 <dubStep> cloaket found out and silar and i think oddraw
18:25 <nsh22> lol
18:25 <dubStep> and they hi-jacked the server
18:26 <nsh22> i c
18:26 <dubStep> meh i couldnt do anything because everyone was admin, it wasnt auth back then
18:26 <G5> I thought I give mµth a chance to show if he's a good or a bad mod ... that why I'm so interested in knowing about his doings.
18:26 <dubStep> G5: who are the mods in your servers?
18:26  * nsh22 launches zombies at random ppl in NW df
18:26 <dubStep> lol but its your server...
18:26 <nsh22> i know :P
18:27 <G5> Everyone?
18:27 <nsh22> its funy, everyone is like wtf?
18:27 <dubStep> G5: i think you should limit the amount of mods you have, there are just too many :/
18:27 <nsh22> yeah
18:27 <nsh22> why did you give mod to everyone?
18:28 <G5> I will as soon as there is trouble between mods.
18:28 <dubStep> and word? >< i disagree with that one lol
18:29 <nsh22> word? as in pruWord?
18:29 <dubStep> i only really think, hoop, epsy (obviously the DS) eh, maybe gaspard?
18:29 <dubStep> yea pruWord imo is a bad choice
18:29 <nsh22> i like him, hes alright
18:29 <G5> dubs: Almost all DS are mod or admin and maybe 20 more mods ...
18:29 <dubStep> like, most people are just kids really, power/responsibility goes to their head
18:30 <dubStep> fort players are already trigger happy...
18:30 <dubStep> meh so often i have to say dont kick suspend its silly
18:32 <dubStep> i remember this convo with epsy months ago. people saying fort players are assholes because we kick noobs all the time blah blah, so i try to stop it as much as possible. obviously there are those newbies who don't listen at all and you have no choice, or the obvious trolls, but there are some who listen, but sometimes don't get the chance :/
18:32 <G5> epsy, noob13, flex, durka, dread, k-yo, van-hayer, madmax, sublim, hoop, empha, hoax, ed ...
18:32 <dubStep> sublim is a bad mod
18:32 <dubStep> she abuses alot
18:33 <dubStep> so does hayes >< but hes ok
18:33 <epsy> I've whined about that on forums some time ago
18:33 <nsh22> hi epsy
18:33 <epsy> G5, flex can be a troublemaker really
18:33 <dubStep> he never abuses mod powers though
18:34 <epsy> maybe it's because he gets drunk or something, but sometimes he really goes far harrassing people
18:34 <G5> epsy: you can be too ;)
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18:34 <nsh22> 'ey!
18:34 <dubStep> only people i have an issue with really is myth, word and sublim
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18:35 <dubStep> the others they hardly play so its not a big deral
18:35 <epsy> G5, anyway, soon I'll be implementing a referee type of thing
18:35 <dubStep> deal*
18:35 <G5> As I said ... tell me when see someone abuse mod/admin powers and he/she will be removed from the list
18:35 <epsy> basically it will be a vote to op someone function
18:35 <G5> epsy: cool
18:35 <epsy> well, as soon as I can work on arma again :/
18:35 <nsh22> PinkTomato, !
18:36 <PinkTomato> hi there nsh22
18:36 <nsh22> epsy: why cant you work on arma?
18:36 <PinkTomato> exams maybe
18:36 <nsh22> exams? this late?
18:37 <nsh22> any1 here up for yandere?
18:37 <nsh22> :P
18:38 <dubStep> ew no
18:38 <G5> dubs: Done. no more /lock and /uninvite for "remote users" ... I hope
18:38 <epsy> autoconf issues I don't understand
18:38 <dubStep> il try with my other account
18:39 <dubStep> eh i can still do it
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18:39 <G5> how did u log in as "remote user"?
18:39 <dubStep> dubStep@forums instead of dubStep@ct
18:39 <G5> Maybe its in Durka's ladle settings ... mom pls
18:39 <dubStep> k
18:41 <G5> k, try again pls
18:41 <dubStep> yea its ok now, i cant do it
18:41 <G5> k, thx
18:42 <dubStep> np
18:42 <G5> k, I'll be away for a while ...
18:43 <dubStep> ok
18:43 <dubStep> bb :)
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18:53 <Vanhayes> I only abuse the center message usually
18:53 <epsy> been team names to me heh
18:53 <Vanhayes> today i was just screwing around seeing all the ways you can /admin kill someone
18:53 <epsy> G5, can you downgrade SAY for access by Moderators?
18:54 <Vanhayes> ya no point having console message and center_message but no say
18:54 <Vanhayes> and people pay more attention to what Admin: says generally
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19:18 <G5> epsy: sure. just tell me how, so I dont have to look it up ...
19:20 <epsy> ACCESS_LEVEL SAY 2
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19:21 <G5> k, that wasnt hard. Done.
19:26 <ct|kyle> mine is going to say Moderator: (depending on Access level)
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19:27 <G5> (sun)
19:27 <sunny> G5!
19:27 <G5> k, doesnt work here ... (for me)
19:27 <sunny> lol
19:27 <G5> Hi sunny!
19:38 <armabot> lpbugs: [399388] Trunk's ./configure fails with bash 4 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399388>
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20:26 <Durka> \o
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20:30 <dubStep> Durka:
20:30 <Durka> dubStep:
20:31 <dubStep> ctf w/ff - dz = -1 point fyi, and people are still having issues joining, the same thing that happened to me before
20:32 <Durka> what issues? oO
20:33 <dubStep> wont let them enter...
20:33 <dubStep> hang on
20:34 <Durka> k
20:34 <Durka> well i'm moving the server
20:36 <dubStep> dist sais that when he tries to enter he gets a message saying the connection was terminated.
20:36 <dubStep> its also v.slidey all of a sudden
20:36 <dubStep> just thought id tell u anyways
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20:45 <Durka> yea
20:45 <Durka> well i'm moving it so no worries
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21:09 <Vanhayes> .as
21:09 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 61 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (14/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (8/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (6/8), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (6/9), Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (5/6), |FA| Black Tar! (1 more message)
21:09 <Vanhayes> .si mega
21:09 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (14/32): -||BS|ChrisGW (ChrisGW@ct), 2much, ichigo +, Opeth, Richie, sunnygirl, szopin, ~*Delta*~ (~*Delta*~@ct), ~*dEmOnIk*~, ~|baSsline|~ (dubStep@ct), ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~Novocaine (Novocaine@forums), ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums), ~|DS|~|Alien|~ (alien@ct)
21:10 <dubStep> Vanhayes: you cant admin kill anymore =P
21:11 <Vanhayes> aw
21:11 <Vanhayes> why not?
21:11 <dubStep> because, i said that g5 should change it to admin only
21:11 <dubStep> since u killed omega and he was really pissed
21:11 <Vanhayes> ha
21:12 <Vanhayes> to be fair it was a random killing, he shouldnt take it too hard
21:12 <dubStep> yea but still...
21:12 <Vanhayes> so one yelled his number out at random i had no logical choice but to kill it
21:12 <dubStep> ><
21:12 <dubStep> u coul dhave been a good mod and ignored
21:13 <dubStep> :)
21:13 <Vanhayes> bah its no fun being a good mod
21:13 <dubStep> ...
21:13 <G5> guys (and girls) ... dont make me shut down the server ... :)
21:13 <dubStep> ur so lucky that he hasnt taken them away
21:13 <Vanhayes> random killing is much more fun
21:13 <Vanhayes> keeps people on their toes
21:13 <dubStep> yea but it pisses people off
21:13 <dubStep> especially in a clan server
21:14 <Vanhayes> well that was the only time i used kill on someone besides myself
21:14 <dubStep> because now people are saying bad things abotu DS not the moderators
21:14 <dubStep> and thats not fair
21:14 <Vanhayes> well just tell them it was me and my power crazed ways
21:15 <Vanhayes> oh well i wont do it again, was just screwing around and seeing how many ways you can admin kill someone
21:15 <Vanhayes> can't do it again* i guess now
21:15 <dubStep> u cant do it now anyway
21:15 <dubStep> :p
21:15 <Vanhayes> porbably a wise decision
21:15 <dubStep> mhm
21:15 <dubStep> :>
21:16 <Vanhayes> still, i reserve the right to silence mkay whenever he gets too annoying
21:16 <dubStep> ...
21:16 <Vanhayes> like when he /locks the team all the time
21:16 <dubStep> you cant do that either
21:16 <dubStep> after today, its been removed
21:17 <Vanhayes> well that solves alot of problems then
21:17 <Vanhayes> used to be not many people logged in so no one abused that now everyone has an account
21:18 <dubStep> hmm
21:18 <dubStep> meh it was a good idea, because people could hold pick up wars, but when it gets as bad as it did today it becomes an issue
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21:33 <epsy> http://www.aftertheimpact.com/
21:36 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr, do you know if there is anyway delphi, c++ builder to compile as installer?
21:36 <Vanhayes> thats from someone ese
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21:58 <Durka> http://tron.pastebin.com/
21:58 <Durka> http://armagetron.pastebin.com/
21:58 <Durka> "private" pastebin's o_O
21:59 <PinkTomato> gives a bit of history I suppose
22:05 <epsy> Durka, pastebin.com sucks, sadly
22:05 <Durka> well rafb.net/paste is no longer up
22:05 <ct|kyle> you really shours setup past.armagetronad.net
22:06 <ct|kyle> should*
22:06 <ct|kyle> paste*
22:07 <epsy> pastebin.ca
22:08 <PinkTomato> what's wrong with pastebin.com/
22:08 <PinkTomato> does the job?
22:08 <epsy> uses a crap font
22:09 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: that doesn't even make sense
22:09 <epsy> which makes 1 and l look the same
22:09 <epsy> among other things
22:09 <epsy> like O and 0s
22:09 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr, just passing on the question
22:09 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: sheesh, at least make sure it parses as English first :þ
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22:09 <Luke-Jr> epsy: websites shouldn't specify specific fonts
22:10 <Luke-Jr> someone needs to change the topic
22:10 <epsy> Luke-Jr, I'm not owner of pastebin.com
22:10 <epsy> Lucifer, ping
22:11 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr, parses as english eh?
22:12 <Luke-Jr> epsy: I don't see pastebin.ca specifying a specific font for the paste itself
22:14 <PinkTomato> They both specify a monospace font
22:14 <Luke-Jr> in fact, the CSS on the paste content is specifically the standard monospace family
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22:14 <Luke-Jr> which is exactly what it should be
22:15 <Luke-Jr> anyhow, I propose we setup a rafb.net/paste clone on paste.armagetronad.net
22:15 <Luke-Jr> and by "we", I mean "guru3"
22:15 <Luke-Jr> <.<
22:16 <dubStep> Vanhayes: where did u go
22:19 <Vanhayes> went for a smoke
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22:40 <dubStep> .sl
22:40 <tronner> dubStep: This data is 67 seconds old; Wild West  =Sumo= (11/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (10/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (6/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (6/6), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (1 more message)
22:40 <dubStep> .more
22:40 <tronner> dubStep: (5/14), -=TheZenTHClan=- High Rubber (3/8), -->Gods Of Tron<-- High Rubber (3/14), |FA| Black Tar! (2/16), WILDCAT (2/8), OMG OMG OMG (2/16), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY High Speed) <<< (2/12), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (1/8)
22:40 <dubStep> .si =sumo=
22:40 <tronner> dubStep: Wild West  =Sumo=: Players (10/16): -=VcL.hiro, 2things2much<>, Boss, davebot, F²·Acid, Fl¥ºwñ»«, Plate, S¢årèÇrðw, YDdraigGoch, |fW~yup
22:41 <dubStep> .si open
22:41 <tronner> dubStep: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (12/12): -=VcL.QueZt, -||BS|ChrisGW (ChrisGW@ct), Bellum, Brüno, delueks, MobiusPoint (MobiusPoint@ct), Player 1, Sasori, szopin, Tron, Verka Serdushka, zeus106
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23:08 <dubStep> emmy_arma: spam kicked?
23:10 <emmy_arma> where from?
23:10 <dubStep> dogfight
23:10 <emmy_arma> yes
23:10 <emmy_arma> -.-
23:10 <emmy_arma> how do u know?
23:10 <dubStep> hahha
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23:10 <emmy_arma> oh ;))
23:10 <baSsline> xD
23:13 <baSsline> come back?
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23:59 <madmax> #as
23:59 <armabot> madmax: This data is 235 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (11/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/12), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (8/8), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), WILDCAT (5/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), -=}ID< Clan Presents<-=}Flower Power< (4/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (3/12), Team (1 more message)

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00:05 <akira_arma> .tea
00:05 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): -»|noob, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), .pRu|Hell-lo, .x] FoFo, akira, pe (peiaemanuel@ct)
00:05 <akira_arma> advertising :)
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00:25 <epsy> Luke-Jr, yes, that's why pastebin.ca is better, and pastebin.com sucks :)
00:25 <epsy> also, one of these have published the source of their code
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01:41 <dlh> armabot: tea
01:41 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): -»|hoop (hoop@forums), .x] FoFo, .×] $ubzero, .×] Hoax, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), alf, delueks, dubs.wav, GT|InWZenTH|GT, madmax, nara, ULTRA
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01:47 <epsy> any op around >.>
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01:57 <nbkforumuser> testing testing 123
01:58 <nbkforumuser> ugh nick doesnt work from the java applet
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02:21 <Luke-Jr> epsy: oh, I thought you said pastebin.ca sucked
02:22 <Luke-Jr> epsy: though the only difference I see in the CSS is font size
02:22 <Luke-Jr> ]later tell nbkforum* all that rejoining pisses off the regulars; quit it or risk ban :þ
02:22 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: The operation succeeded.
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02:38 <noob13> .tea
02:38 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): -»|hoop (hoop@forums), .×] $ubzero, .×] Hoax, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), akira, alf, Lard, madmax, Mkay-1, nara, oddeuro, pota, ULTRA, weey;D, ~*Sasha*~ (Sasha@forums)
02:38 <noob13> hi Palaguin xD
02:39 <Palaguin> lo
02:54 <Vanhayes> .tea
02:54 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): -»|hoop (hoop@forums), -||BSt|Néró Â, .×] $ubzero, .×] Hoax, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), alf, Cosmic Dolphin, iplaynao, Lard, madmax, nara, pota, Sasori, Tðbê, ULTRA
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03:05 <noob13> .tea
03:05 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (20/32): +Holy+, -»|hoop (hoop@forums), -||BSt|Néró Â, .×] $ubzero, alf, chris, Insta, iplaynao, Lard, madmax, Mkay-1, MobiusPoint (MobiusPoint@ct), nara, pota, Sasori, Tðbê, THEMAN, ULTRA, Vanhayes
03:05 <Vanhayes> lots of people
03:05 <noob13> i wish my gfx card could take that. would be getting 20'ish fps :|
03:06 <Vanhayes> thats what i usually get 30 seconds into the round
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03:49 <Vanhayes> .si fort
03:49 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): +Holy+, .×] $ubzero, alf, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), iplaynao, madmax, nara, Tðbê, user, Vanhayes
03:49 <Vanhayes> .si bist
03:49 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Bistro: Players (5/32): -=}ID< Force, Lard, Mkay-1, oddeuro, Ww_Compguygene (compguygene@forums)
03:52 <Vanhayes> .si bist
03:52 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Bistro: Players (4/32): -=}ID< Force, cdog, Lard, Ww_Compguygene (compguygene@forums)
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14:18 <Vanhayes> .ping
14:18 <tronner> pong
14:31 <epsy> http://armagetron.pastebin.com/m71e2f95e
14:31 <epsy> mh :|
14:36 <PinkTomato> epsy, maybe you are right..
14:36 <PinkTomato> two monospace fonts are there
14:36 <PinkTomato> not noticed that before
14:38 <PinkTomato> http://pastebin.ca/1495710
14:51 <epsy> http://userstyles.org/styles/19531
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15:52 <nbkforumuser> #/
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15:55 <PinkTomato> .seen smoothice
15:55 <tronner> PinkTomato: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 5 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, 59 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <smoothice> O RLY
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16:01 <epsy> nbkforumuser, please
16:01 <epsy> can you test your webchat in another channnel?
16:35 <nbkforumuser> um, not testing im leaving it open
16:36 <nbkforumuser> the only thing it wont let me do is change nick
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16:36 <spider> nvm it works now
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16:43 <nbkspider> you guys see what happened to the ID site?
16:43 <nbkspider> Was hacked and when you go to it you get rick astley karaoke
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18:13 <madmax> #as
18:14 <madmax> .as
18:14 <tronner> madmax: This data is 4 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (14/32), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (9/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), Ladle 23 (Z-Man's Server) (7/24), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (5/10), ~~M0$t Wànt3d~~ (5/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (4/12), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (4/8), internalDrive -=- iD Tech Camps (4/16), Hiead's Arena | (1 more message)
18:14 <madmax> .si fort
18:14 <tronner> madmax: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (14/32): .×] DreadLord (dreadlord@forums), .×] Hoax, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), freetosk8brd, jaycd, maño (hand@ct), Pez, pruWord (Word@forums), Sunbeam, wap, yodude, |OKO|E-Dog|415|, ~|baSsline|~ (dubStep@ct), ~|DS|~zion
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19:48 <zmanuel> Geee, drama.
19:52 <madmax> the tron kind?
20:00 <dlh> tron clan drama
20:00 <sunny>  about who are you talking about?
20:05 <zmanuel> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19473
20:06 <zmanuel> I am very much inclined to declare this another inter-clan thing we don't want anything to do with.
20:07 <zmanuel> Apparently, hostilities have been going both ways for a while now, the spam and hacking is just an escalation.
20:12 <akira_arma> what drama
20:12 <akira_arma> :)
20:12 <akira_arma> i missed it :(
20:13 <madmax> but if it was that cloaket guy, it's not an inter-clan thing
20:28 <epsy> nah it's again cloaket drama
20:29 <epsy>  wtf...10mb down :s
20:30 <epsy> and 60mb up
20:39 <zmanuel> Gaaaaa wall of text posting
20:39 <Luke-Jr> maybe give bogus info on the master servers for a few days and punish everyone ;)
20:42 <Luke-Jr> zmanuel: good call on asking for the trojan bin ;)
20:42 <Luke-Jr> bet he "deleted" it
20:47 <epsy> compguygene is a great example tbh
20:47 <epsy> I know a bunch of people who troll and hide behind the excuse they have the whole day free
20:49 <Luke-Jr> epsy: ?
20:49 <epsy> he's a "house-husband"(?), and acts quite decently
20:50 <Luke-Jr> maybe in public :þ
20:50 <Luke-Jr> gene is a different kind of troll
20:50 <epsy> god and spam services are watching.
20:51 <epsy> :]
20:52 <epsy> can vim space up "wall of text posting"-posts? heh
20:54 <Luke-Jr> …
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21:01 <animuson> does the arma dedicated server install the same way on centos as ubuntu? same ./configure and everything?
21:03 <epsy> hopefully.
21:04 <Luke-Jr> animuson: that's the Wrong Way to install things on either OS
21:04 <Luke-Jr> on CentOS, it'd be more like "yum install armagetronad-dedicated"
21:04 <Luke-Jr> on Ubuntu, "aptitude install armagetronad-dedicated"
21:04 <Luke-Jr> kthx
21:05 <epsy> does anyone have bash 4 yet?
21:05 <animuson> except im using a modified version of sty+ct
21:05 <epsy> same way than on ubuntu if you're going to compile yourself
21:05 <epsy> except for installing dependencies, of course
21:06 <epsy> does anyone have bash 4 yet? please confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/399388
21:06 <epsy> can any of the supybot holders load the bugtracker plugin please?
21:07 <epsy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak/files/head%3A/Bugtracker/
21:08 <Luke-Jr> epsy: why :þ
21:08 <Luke-Jr> animuson: so make a proper package
21:08 <epsy> so we can say "yeah bla see bug 1234"
21:08 <epsy> and bot tells wtf is bug 1234
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21:09 <epsy> like teabot used to do
21:09 <Luke-Jr> epsy: does it recognize that different channels use different bug trackers? :þ
21:10 <epsy> yes
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21:11 <Luke-Jr> a bzr link would be more appropriate
21:11 <epsy> lp:~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak
21:14 <Luke-Jr> ]load Bugtracker
21:14 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: Error: No module named SOAPpy
21:14 <Luke-Jr> -.-
21:15 <Luke-Jr> epsy: guess that's a "no", as SOAPpy is a huge dependency
21:34 <epsy> meh
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22:22 <Vanhayes> .as
22:22 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 33 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (11/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (9/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (8/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (5/16), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), Hiead's Arena | High Rubber + Great Speed (5/12), (2 more messages)
22:23 <Vanhayes> .si mega
22:23 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (11/32): -»|hoop (hoop@forums), -»|viper, .pRu|Hell-lo, fingerbib, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), gay spectator, Pr³, Rene, sithy (Sithy@forums), wap, ~|DS|~AshitakA
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22:33 <Vanhayes> wow, people are out witch hunting lately
22:38 <sunny> aso
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23:12  * madmax gets some popcorn
23:12 <sine_wav> has been eating popcorn all day, watching (reading) the show.
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23:18 <nsh22> heyheyhey
23:18 <sine_wav> yo neal, wassup mah little homie?
23:18 <nsh22> <.<
23:18 <nsh22> nm, u
23:19 <sine_wav> checking out the drama on forums.arma. It's a bit disturbing. not very amusing, but kind of sad and bothersome.
23:20 <nsh22> yeah, i was readin it too, makes me wna t to gop on a manhunt for those bastards
23:20 <nsh22> stirring up shit again
23:21 <nsh22> but im not quite sure if it was cloaket or code
23:21 <nsh22> oh wow, that was a loud burp
23:21 <sine_wav> Is there a difference?
23:22 <nsh22> ones a kid, ones an adult
23:22 <sine_wav> oh. I guess that's the difference then.
23:23 <nsh22> one can be understandle, one should know better
23:23 <nsh22> but they took it WAAAYY too far to threaten and spam dest
23:23 <sine_wav> Heh, I guess. I've never had enough bad feelings where I would spend so much time aggravating somone.
23:25 <nsh22> oh i have, but the person ii was/ still am pissed at isnt a comp nerd so would go on a computer
23:27 <sine_wav> I mean, it's amazing how personal this stuff gets. I know I have a habit of verbally abusing people, but I never do anything cruel or malicious. What's the point?
23:27 <sine_wav> I shouldn't be surprised I guess.
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23:30 <nsh22> G5: hey, can i have mod in mega fort?
23:31 -!- baSsline is now known as dubStep
23:32 <nsh22> sine_wav: its always gonna happen, if one person doesntdo it, another will
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23:40 <nsh22> heyzman
23:43 <epsy> sound server of doom is failing for me
23:44 <epsy> so far, the only time my audio worked is when mplayer tried to use oss
23:44 <epsy> lol
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23:49 <Luke-Jr> let's install spyware with the next Arma :þ
23:49 <nsh22> o0
23:50 <epsy> stop talking about our last afd joke
23:50 <nsh22> oh r u referencing the RATS dicussed by rajjin
23:50 <epsy> it was meant to stay secret
23:50 <epsy> talking about that
23:50 <epsy> nobody yet found what our joke was
23:50 <epsy> heh
23:54 <sine_wav> whatever the joke was, it still can't bugfarm cubed. that was insane. I'm not sure what COULD beat that tough.
23:55 <epsy> heh yeah the implementation was quite good
23:55 <epsy> too bad the GPL had to kick in
23:55 <epsy> um
23:56 <nsh22> the what?
23:57 <epsy> the google

Log from 2009-07-16:
--- Day changed Thu Jul 16 2009
00:09 <sine_wav> I just want to ask, regardless if codehunter is responsible, is there anything illegal about forum hacking and spamming on this level?
00:09 <sine_wav> or is this all more stupid drama.
00:10 <nsh22> it is illegal (inb4 Luke-Jr)
00:10 <nsh22> its fraud
00:12 <sine_wav> so, there is really more at stake here than the ID haters realize then.
00:12 <sine_wav> epsy: lol at phishing for dummies!
00:13 <dlh> .si mega
00:13 <tronner> dlh: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (26/32): -»|M, -»|viper, .×] Hoax, .×] Liza (Liza@x/member), .x] FoFo, <º}}}><, akira, Alias, Binford, Cheval, CT_joda.bot, ct~orly?, El PaPa, fingerbib, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), JS, madmax, Mkay-1, Pez, Radian+, SKE|Death, user, ViV, ~|DS|~ Judders (Judders@forums), ~|DS|~AshitakA, ~|DS|~|baSs|~ (dubStep@ct)
00:13 <epsy> :/
00:13 <dlh> Need more players...
00:13 <sine_wav> dubstep in DS?
00:13 <sine_wav> ...
00:13 <dubStep> no rofl
00:14 <epsy> srsly, it's not because the thing is ultra secure one can't do the same
00:14 <epsy> I didn't know you spoke german dubStep
00:14 <sine_wav> heh
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00:14 <epsy> if my post makes him realize, good thing
00:15 <epsy> if he takes it as flame, well, doesn't make the thread worse
00:15 <dubStep> epsy lmao are u serious im fluent
00:15 <epsy> bist du?
00:15 <dubStep> ja
00:16 <epsy> I need sth harder :D
00:16 <dubStep> nah, meine deutsch ist shiesse...
00:16 <dubStep> used to be better though
00:19 <nsh22> sine_wav: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0cgQkT4ScQ&feature=related <===no it isnt teenage girls this time
00:19 <sine_wav> thank god.
00:19 <dubStep> lmao
00:19 <nsh22> its funny if youve seen the commercial
00:20 <nsh22> the ends a little gay tho
00:20 <sine_wav> I don't watch tv
00:20 <nsh22> gayer*
00:20  * dubStep either
00:20 <nsh22> just watch the video
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00:20 <dubStep> elo pink
00:20 <PinkTomato> hi there dubStep
00:24 <dubStep> .si mega
00:24 <tronner> dubStep: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (24/32): -»|M, -»|viper, .×] Hoax, .×] Liza (Liza@x/member), .x] FoFo, <º}}}><, akira, Alias, CT_joda.bot, ct~orly?, fingerbib, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), JS, madmax, Pez, Radian +, ULTRA, user, Venom, ViV, ~*Delta*~, ~|DS|~ Judders (Judders@forums), ~|DS|~AshitakA, ~|DS|~|baSs|~ (dubStep@ct)
00:24 <dubStep> 24 jeez
00:24 <dubStep> no wonder -.-'
00:30 <nsh22> sine_wav: did you watch it :P
00:31 <sine_wav> yeah, pretty funny, even without seeing the original.
00:31  * sine_wav slaps his own nuts.
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00:32 <sine_wav> ok, imma leave work now.
00:32 <nsh22> lol watch the original, its mildly humorous as well
00:32 <nsh22> kk
00:32 <sine_wav> late
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00:38 <z-man> This pidgin thing isn't half bad.
00:40 <Vanhayes> "He's impostered me on multiple sites (such as Match.com)," <-- gotta say thats the funniest thing in that thread so far
00:40 <z-man> True :)
00:41 <nsh22> which thread?
00:41 <z-man> I'd love to see the profile.
00:41 <Vanhayes> me too
00:42 <z-man> Bet it's of the 'I'm a shy guy, but like it rough up the a** by big burly men with facial hair' variety.
00:42 <Vanhayes> nsh22, its the drama/hacked one
00:42 <Vanhayes> ha
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00:42 <nsh22> ah, the drama thread
00:43 <Vanhayes> force does not seem to know what paragraphs are
00:43 <Vanhayes> or capitalizing
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00:44 <z-man> Err, now how do I get z-man-windows back into this channel?
00:45 <nsh22> ummm...
00:45 <nsh22> why did he leave?
00:45 <Vanhayes> ctrl+alt+del?
00:45 <z-man> I closed the window.
00:46 -!- Luke-Jr [n=luke-jr@2002:46bb:1a76:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Connection timed out]
00:46 <z-man> He's still connected to freenode, but I can't get back into any channels.
00:46 <nsh22> ...what does it say when u try
00:46 <nsh22> btw, i LOLEd at liz's "cool story bro" comment hahah
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00:47 <z-man> Not to mention that having to leave the IRC window open at all times isn't the way an IRC client is supposed to work.
00:47 <z-man> ns22: I can't even try.
00:47 <z-man> The main freenode window is gone and I don't know how to get it back.
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00:47 <z-man-windows> aha!
00:47 <z-man> Well, that's not a good way, though.
00:48 <z-man> I had to /msg him from here, and in the query, I could issue the /join command.
00:48 <nsh22> lol how is an irc client "supposed" to work then?
00:49 <z-man> So when you close the window, it only minimizes into the systray?
00:49 <z-man> Minimizing the window sort of does the same, but then it can get reactivated by accident via alt-tab.
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00:54 <z-man> Aha!
00:56 <PinkTomato>  /notice doesn't work very well in pidgin.
00:58 <z-man-windows> And by 'not very well', you mean 'not at all'.
01:00  * z-man shrugs
01:00 <z-man> It works well enough so I don't have to keep the Linux laptop on all of the time.
--- Log opened Thu Jul 16 23:54:06 2009
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23:54 <epsy> yeah that too dlh
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23:54 <wrtlprnft> grr, damn thing crashed again :-/
23:54 <wrtlprnft> hi
23:54 <epsy> \o
23:54 <wrtlprnft> a lot of stir around code hunter it seems, 7 pages
23:54 <z-man> Most of it crap.
23:55 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i'm not going to read it
23:55 <Vanhayes> crap and drjoe tributes
23:55 <wrtlprnft> gave up after half of the first page
23:55 <sine_wav> z-man: Hickup is a mystery. never seen him.
23:56 <epsy> i cant begin to explain how funny this is. destiny, you truly are an idiot. first of all, i am looking at your forum, its not even hosted by forumer. try again, you fail.
23:56 <epsy> hzahzhahahahhaha
23:56 <epsy> he really got it fucking wrong
23:56 <z-man> I really hate how those clan forums are all read protected.
23:57 <sine_wav> totally
23:57 <z-man> Well, actually, I like it. Makes me not dig back in the history of this crap.
23:58 <madmax> what's liz got to do with this thing anyway?
23:59 <Vanhayes> not sure she is jsut posteing random pictures now
23:59 <Vanhayes> z-mantalking about that spforums link?
23:59 <wrtlprnft> yeah, the account required stuff is annoying and really pointless

Log from 2009-07-17:
--- Day changed Fri Jul 17 2009
00:00 <PinkTomato> what has happened?
00:00 <Vanhayes> angry people yelling at each other
00:00 <wrtlprnft> and then they're probably using the same password their forum admin account has for ADMIN_PASS and all that
00:00 <dubStep> sine_wav
00:00 <PinkTomato> no change there then
00:01 <PinkTomato> Well using ADMIN_PASS is a silly idea anyway
00:02 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i just used it as an example
00:02 <dubStep> lol?
00:02 <wrtlprnft> how someone might have “hacked” into their account
00:02 <dubStep> dest is talking to the fbi? Oo
00:02 <Vanhayes> apparently liz posted a pic of destiny's daughter
00:02 <epsy> ...
00:02 <Vanhayes> this is like a spinger episode i swear
00:03 <dubStep> well i was like, hey kim u there, and she's like "yea but im busy, im talking to the fbi about the attack on us"
00:03 <sine_wav> dubStep: baby.
00:03 <madmax> oh jeez
00:03 <epsy> couldn't be z-man be a forum admin too?
00:03 <z-man> could, yes.
00:03 <dubStep> sine_wav: hey sweetie <3
00:03 <sine_wav> <3
00:03 <epsy> he's quite more active then guru and is pretty much trusted by everyone around here
00:03 <PinkTomato> is this on offical forums or lagtest?
00:03 <dubStep> lagtest i presume
00:03 <Vanhayes> it is armagetron main forums
00:03 <dubStep> wait what?
00:04 <dubStep> how did lisa get a pic of kim's daughter?
00:04 <sine_wav> Ractchet I bet.
00:04 <dubStep> oh
00:04 <wrtlprnft> has guru3 gone missing or something or why are we talking about the who
00:04 <dubStep> pft, never liked that kid
00:04 <sine_wav> long time ago I remember a post about it
00:04 <wrtlprnft> -should-be-admin thing again?
00:04 <madmax> come back from dublin guru3!
00:04 <dubStep> kim has always protected him though, never understood why
00:04 <Vanhayes> i think he is just busy atm
00:04 <epsy> I'm trying to figure out how do we report an image on tinypic atm
00:05 <wrtlprnft> not that i'd object to z-man being an admin, for all i have to say, having pretty much disappered as well
00:05 <PinkTomato> guru3, is away?
00:05 <epsy> apparently he is
00:05 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft, ya where have you been?
00:05 <epsy> he's in dublin on holiday
00:05 <z-man> ah
00:05 <dubStep> dublin ftw
00:05 <Vanhayes> that would be a fun holiday
00:05 <dubStep> i dont blame him, i would stay forever
00:05 <epsy> yeah, dublin is a win city, but gah
00:05 <wrtlprnft> kinda busy, kinda fed up with all the pointless discussions everywhere, lacking motivation
00:06 <wrtlprnft> and distracted i guess
00:06 <Vanhayes> debating whether to try and get a visa and move there for a while or autrailia or just go back out west for a while
00:06 <dubStep> wrlt, i always wanted to ask, and since it's the first and probably last time i'll see you for a while, here goes...
00:06 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft, well pointless discussions seem to be the longest ones
00:06 <epsy> gah
00:06 <dubStep> why did you call yourself wrtlprnft?
00:07 <epsy> there's a report offensive button
00:07 <Vanhayes> no vowels, still sounds like a word
00:07 <epsy> but you can't append a message or anything
00:07 <dubStep> thats not a reason hayes ><
00:07 <wrtlprnft> dubStep: semi-long story
00:07 <epsy> hopefully they log referrers..
00:07 <wrtlprnft> but hey, at least it's unique
00:07 <dubStep> awww :( i thought it might be a logn story
00:07 <dubStep> long*
00:07 <Vanhayes> ya google it and its all you
00:07 <dubStep> lol
00:07 <wrtlprnft> :-)
00:08 <madmax> is this rajinn dude code hunter?
00:08 <Vanhayes> since facebook blew up there a tonne of van-hayes out there now
00:08 <Vanhayes> madmax, i think so
00:08 <dubStep> yes madmax
00:08 <dubStep> code, codehunter, virus, rajinn
00:08 <dubStep> all him
00:08 <madmax> I don't get most of this crap. no idea how some of you are so informed about clan members and stuff :P
00:08 <PinkTomato> is cloaket the same person?
00:08 <dubStep> lol
00:08 <dubStep> no
00:08 <epsy> no
00:09 <dubStep> cloaket isjust some misguided kid
00:09 <dubStep> who hates brandon too
00:09 <dubStep> ^^
00:09 <epsy> hopefully just that
00:09 <dubStep> he is epsy
00:09 <Vanhayes> well i only know the clan members i play with on a regular basis
00:09 <PinkTomato> so what got hacked?
00:09 <PinkTomato> ID forums again?
00:09 <epsy> ID forums hacked
00:09 <dubStep> he doesnt even get on tron anymore... everytime i talk to him he splayign xbox -.-'
00:09 <madmax> and hickup didn't say who he is neither heh
00:09 <epsy> then this thread started
00:09 <Vanhayes> i guess if you are in a clan you would know more/need to know more
00:09 <epsy> dubStep, cloaket?
00:09 <dubStep> yes
00:09 <Vanhayes> PinkTomato, it got rickrolled
00:09 <madmax> Vanhayes: yeah I guess...
00:09 <epsy> why the hell do you have such a fuck on your buddy list
00:10 <dubStep> haha
00:10 <dubStep> hes actually never been mean to me :(
00:10 <epsy> the only time he was on mine it was after he phished us all
00:10 <epsy> when he put him himself on my buddy list
00:10 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes, so wiped and replaced with Rick Astley?
00:10 <dubStep> and cause, whenever people get hacked etc, i always ask him if he knows anything
00:10 <dubStep> most of the time he does
00:10 <PinkTomato> and that is the second time right?
00:10 <Vanhayes> replaced with a full music video and pop lyrics
00:10 <dubStep> that was awesome
00:10 <Vanhayes> pop up lyrics*
00:10 <dubStep> i actually sung along tbh
00:10 <epsy> can you even have a conversation with him?
00:10 <epsy> wait
00:10 <dubStep> yea i can
00:11 <epsy> did you say xbox live?
00:11 <dubStep> hes not actually a prick to me, ever
00:11 <epsy> with voice chat and this shit?
00:11 <Vanhayes> ugh
00:11 <dubStep> just a normal person, which is hard to believe i know
00:11 <epsy> since when is he on that?
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00:11 <dubStep> since ages
00:11 <dubStep> months ive seen it on msn
00:11 <epsy> explains his behaviour..
00:11 <Vanhayes> imagine actually hearing leet speak instead of just reading it
00:11 <madmax> lol
00:11 <sine_wav> haha
00:11 <dubStep> lol
00:11 <epsy> Vanhayes, xbox live is worse, so I heard
00:12 <dlh> Wait, code hunter is -=VcL.Rajinn?
00:12 <dubStep> well he plays left for dead too much i think
00:12 <epsy> yes
00:12 <dubStep> or used to
00:12 <epsy> and he's mod in one of our forums
00:12 <Vanhayes> epsy, i play a bit and some of the stuff on multiplayer fps is down right criminal
00:12 <dubStep> why in gods name would u ever give brandon mod/admin to anything?!
00:12 <epsy> which is quite frankly awesome, that way we can't ignore his craptalk
00:12 <epsy> Vanhayes, on xbox live?
00:12 <Vanhayes> dubStep, er dont know his gamercard do you?
00:12 <Vanhayes> epsy, ya
00:12 <dubStep> cloak?
00:13 <epsy> god thank I don't buy game consoles.
00:13 <epsy> reminder, this channel is publicily logged
00:13 <Vanhayes> ya, left for dead is pretty much the only game i play now on xbox, and not much anymore
00:13 <dubStep> i dont know it, but next time heson msn, more than likely he'll be on xbox live and i'll tell u if u stil wana know
00:14 <dubStep> i think it was sine_wav who said im friends with all the asshole
00:14 <dubStep> assholes*
00:14 <dubStep> hmm, cept 1
00:14 <Vanhayes> you do seem to attract them
00:14 <dubStep> lol
00:14 <dubStep> xD
00:15 <dubStep> but, i dont see why i should cross someone off if theyve never done anything to me
00:15 <dubStep> like cloaket to me just comes accross as a bored little kid
00:15 <dubStep> which is what he is..
00:15 <dubStep> however, brandon is just dickish... and childish considering how old he "says" he is, but i find it hard to believe anything he says after talking to a few people... i don't believe anything about him
00:16 <dubStep> his age, his job... nada
00:16 <PinkTomato> So, did ID just leave the current password the same?
00:16 <Vanhayes> i just think its funny they said he ran away to canada for a few weeks
00:16 <sine_wav> Does anyone else here suspect this character "Hickup" is Code trying to muddy the waters?
00:17 <dubStep> who is Hickup?
00:17 <PinkTomato> So you think Code did it sine_wav ?
00:17 <epsy> a forum troll, obviousely
00:17 <epsy> possibly not even from armagetron
00:17 <dubStep> i havent even heard about this hickup person
00:17 <sine_wav> Well, he's a very suspicious character. I wouldn't put it past him. But, I refrain judgement.
00:17 <Vanhayes> damnit i want to make another ms paint but cant think of anything
00:17 <dubStep> PinkTomato, i think it was code but i think taz had something to do with it too
00:18 <Vanhayes> drjoe made it look easy
00:18 <epsy> Vanhayes, must get in before the lock!
00:18 <PinkTomato> dubStep, VCL Taz?
00:18 <dubStep> yes
00:18 <dubStep> one of the members left vcl cause of him
00:18 <epsy> altho the lock isn't coming near
00:18 <Vanhayes> well if i think of something after the lock ill just put it in the petition topic
00:18 <dubStep> makes me even more wary of taz
00:18 <epsy> no
00:18 <dubStep> plus the fact that he acts naiive and hes in fact very sneaky...
00:18 <madmax> let's make bets on how many pages it goes before the lock
00:18 <PinkTomato> I had no problem with Taz
00:18 <epsy> it has to be in BEFORE THE LOCK
00:18 <epsy> :>
00:19 <dubStep> everyone thinks taz is a noob when it comes to coding etc, but hes not.
00:19 <dubStep> not at all
00:19 <Vanhayes> im going with an even 10
00:19 <sine_wav> Bet: lock on Pg 9
00:19 <epsy> 13
00:19 <dubStep> what page
00:19 <sine_wav> 13?!
00:19 <dubStep> link,
00:19  * dubStep wants a link
00:19 <epsy> well
00:19 <Vanhayes> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19473&start=90
00:20 <epsy> sine_wav, at this rate, we're at page 9 tomorrow
00:20 <dubStep> omg
00:20 <sine_wav> actually, there are a lot of spectators on that thread.
00:20 <sine_wav> could be 13
00:20 <dubStep> ok, im afk for a while starting from page 1
00:20 <Vanhayes> if you havent seen it yet, look on page 4 or 5 for a nice break of crudely drawn pictures
00:20 <dubStep> bbiab
00:20 <epsy> hahahah
00:20 <Vanhayes> on 8 now
00:20 <sine_wav> crap. I want to change my bet.
00:20 <madmax> I'll go with 17
00:20 <PinkTomato> It has been like 24 hours
00:20 <Vanhayes> er, guess tommorow for you is alot closer than tommorow for me
00:20 <PinkTomato> and it is already on page 8
00:21 <PinkTomato> i'll say 26
00:21 <dubStep> o no
00:21 <PinkTomato> Though I doubt it will get that far, hopefully it is dying out now
00:21 <Vanhayes> how long is guru3's vacation again?
00:21 <dubStep> taz is iming me
00:21 <Vanhayes> ignore
00:21 <sine_wav> ignore
00:21 <dubStep> ><
00:21 <PinkTomato> unignore
00:21 <madmax> .last --from guru3 --nolimit
00:22 <dubStep> he just said "did u see the topic"
00:22 <dubStep> all i said was "yes"
00:22 <PinkTomato> how could you not
00:22 <dubStep> :S
00:22 <Vanhayes> actual answer it and see if he wants you to speak on his behalf
00:22 <madmax> lame, pvt response. nothing though
00:22 <Vanhayes> im guessing both sides got people to do that
00:22  * sine_wav spoke for himself
00:22 <Vanhayes> me too
00:23 <Vanhayes> somehow i doubt destiny got ahold of the fbi so fast, seems like they would be busier
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00:24 <dubStep> hahaha brandon you illiterate prick, cant even spell cloaket hehehe
00:24 <dubStep> ^^
00:24 <wrtlprnft> hey, in a way it might theorethically be me who turned code hunter against armagetron
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00:24 <Vanhayes> "your armagetron forums were threatened? screw homeland security we need all our people on thsi right away!"
00:24 <dlh> Vanhayes: She probably filed a complaint online: http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
00:24 <sine_wav> Vanhayes: Actually, I've had to deal with the FBI for fraud before. they're pretty quick to respond.
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00:24 <dubStep> Mµ§¡ç says:
00:24 <dubStep>  yea its pretty funny..
00:24 <dubStep> (thats taz)
00:25 <dubStep> idk what to say oO
00:25 <wrtlprnft> another one of those times where i just tried to point out that he was making a little mistake and then everyone started flaming him
00:25 <Vanhayes> well that is surprising, they seem the type of orginisation that would put you on hold
00:25 <Palaguin> I'm on page 2 of that topic. Did anyone actually read what 'Force' said?
00:25 <epsy> great, another picture of dest's daughter
00:25 <Vanhayes> that just disturbing
00:25 <epsy> that means she didn't delete the first one but tpic deleted it
00:26 <dubStep> lol mkay is a nerd
00:26 <dubStep> sine_wav: should i be ignoring jared?
00:26 <PinkTomato> Does Lizmatic still play armagetron?
00:27 <Vanhayes> i saw her in vcl server ealier today
00:27 <Vanhayes> its weird not having any accel at all btw
00:27 <Palaguin> She plays as Sasori right now Pink
00:27 <PinkTomato> oh sasori!
00:27 <Palaguin> or rather 'Sasori <3'
00:27 <PinkTomato> I forget about that
00:28 <Vanhayes> hmm ok, if tank is away for a while still, ill change my bet to page 19
00:28 <dubStep> huh
00:28 <dubStep> code is "Nightmare" ?
00:28 <madmax> pfff. don't change the bet :<
00:28 <Vanhayes> well my bet was 10 thinking tank was just busy not on vacatiob
00:29 <epsy> turned into a flamewar against destiny
00:29 <Vanhayes> and page 10 is coming up in like 10 mins im guessing
00:29 <Palaguin> the old '.dBd|Nightmare' or is someone else using that alias now?
00:29 <epsy> dubStep, is cloaket online atm?
00:29 <PinkTomato> Can't people behave themselves?
00:29 <Vanhayes> no, this is the internet
00:30 <PinkTomato> posting pictures of family members is entirely inappropriate.
00:30 <epsy> yes
00:30 <dubStep> epsy, no he isnt
00:30 <epsy> I reported both pictures
00:30 <PinkTomato> they acted fast on the first one
00:30 <epsy> considering liz posted the second one
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00:30 <dubStep> he might be later, why?
00:30 <epsy> she probably didn't remove the first one
00:30 <epsy> so, I hope it's effectively their staff
00:31 <Vanhayes> the internet is a strange place full of purposly incorrect spelling and grammer, not to mention lolcats
00:31 <Vanhayes> damnit someone put an MS painting in there
00:31 <sine_wav> dubStep: baby, you talk to whoever you want.
00:32 <sine_wav> bbl
00:32 <Vanhayes> everytime someone insults someone else just put MS paintings in
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00:32 <madmax> maybe get one of Joe's from another thread
00:32 <epsy> haha win
00:32 <Vanhayes> ya maybe just hijack it into a drjoetron memorial
00:33 <ct|kyle> no draw a picture of yourself on pluto
00:33 <dubStep> anyone still think it was cloak?
00:33 <Vanhayes> i have no idea
00:33 <ct|kyle> I got mine done
00:33 <dubStep> just curios
00:33 <Vanhayes> hmm ok me on pluto
00:33 <PinkTomato> cloaket is code's brother?
00:34 <epsy> http://www.kingsofthegrid.net/eater.gif
00:34 <dubStep> no pink
00:34 <dubStep> cloak is just some random kid
00:34 <epsy> it's not exactly a joe drawing
00:34 <epsy> but he quoted it
00:34 <dubStep> dude i cba to read what force wrote
00:34 <dubStep> is it important?
00:34 <epsy> is the whole thread important?
00:34 <dubStep> rofl
00:34 <dubStep> u know what i mean
00:35 <epsy> you know what I mean.
00:35 <dubStep> shut up pepsi xD
00:35 <epsy> I KNOW
00:36 <epsy> KEEP QUOTING GUYS
00:36 <epsy> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=208707#p208707
00:36 <epsy> I hope the limit isn't set
00:37 <dlh> Like the old days... http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12361
00:37 <epsy> yep, I got on that
00:37 <epsy> :]
00:39 <dubStep> *sigh*
00:39  * dubStep is getting a headache
00:39 <PinkTomato> What is with the quoting?
00:39 <PinkTomato> how did that develop?
00:39 <dubStep> mecca, taz and liz are like the 2 muskateers only with no purpose. why is it that whenever there is drama those 3 rish in head first without knowing what theyre on about?
00:40 <dubStep> 3*
00:40 <dubStep> lol Vanhayes, asking about the curse filter
00:40 <Vanhayes> keep reading my best post imo came a little after that
00:41 <Vanhayes> and that curse filter is a lie
00:41 <epsy> PinkTomato, http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12361
00:41 <dubStep> muhaha whats with the pics?
00:42 <Vanhayes> its a drjoetron tribute
00:42 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/space4.svg
00:42 <Vanhayes> he used to put ms paintings into topics
00:42 <epsy> wait
00:42 <epsy> his mspaints are down
00:42 <epsy> criminals are those who took it down :[
00:42 <PinkTomato> I know :(, I tried to find them last time you went drjoetron mad
00:43 <Vanhayes> his latest one from early this year was still there
00:43 <epsy> yeah, in the bring back joe thread
00:43 <epsy> Firefox can't find the server at www.w-w-c.net.
00:44 <PinkTomato> lets hope for archive.org
00:44 <epsy> yes.
00:46 <dubStep> lol omfg
00:46 <dubStep> are they relaly tryna blame gay cody for hacking??
00:46 <Palaguin> Apparently
00:46 <dubStep> rofl
00:47 <dubStep> the concept it hilarious. i am actually loling
00:47 <Palaguin> XDDD
00:47 <dubStep>  thanks for that one mecca xD made my day
00:47 <PinkTomato> epsy, they removed the second picture.
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00:47 <Vanhayes> ct|kyle, post your plutonian drawing
00:48 <epsy> baaaah you may only embed 3 quotes within each other.
00:48 <dlh> lame
00:48 <Vanhayes> pluto is pruple right?
00:48 <epsy> why did we upgrade to phpbb3 is a question I still wonder on :)
00:48 <Vanhayes> purple*
00:50 <epsy> OK NEW PLAN
00:50 <epsy> delete the most inner quote tags
00:51 <epsy> so phpbb doesn't BS you
00:52 <dubStep> gayyyy i wana qoute more than 3
00:52 <Vanhayes> ok only 10 more pages to go and I win
00:52 <epsy> [02:50] <epsy>: OK NEW PLAN
00:52 <epsy> [02:50] <epsy>: delete the most inner quote tags
00:52 <epsy> [02:50] <epsy>: so phpbb doesn't BS you
00:52 <Vanhayes> you just quoted yourself
00:53 <dubStep> lmao
00:53 <madmax> 23:52:12 epsy : [02:50] <epsy>: OK NEW PLAN
00:53 <madmax> 23:52:13 epsy : [02:50] <epsy>: delete the most inner quote tags
00:53 <madmax> 23:52:13 epsy : [02:50] <epsy>: so phpbb doesn't BS you
00:54 <epsy> liza got it wrong heh
00:54 <dlh> 18:53 < madmax> 23:52:12 epsy : [02:50] <epsy>: OK NEW PLAN
00:54 <dlh> 18:53 < madmax> 23:52:13 epsy : [02:50] <epsy>: delete the most inner quote tags
00:54 <dlh> 18:53 < madmax> 23:52:13 epsy : [02:50] <epsy>: so phpbb doesn't BS you
00:54 <dlh> QFT?
00:54 <madmax> QFT!
00:54 <epsy> GFT.
00:54 <epsy> er
00:54 <epsy> Q
00:54 <K-Yo> may I?
00:54 <epsy> sure
00:54 <K-Yo> <dlh> 18:53 < madmax> 23:52:12 epsy : [02:50] <epsy>: OK NEW PLAN
00:54 <K-Yo> <dlh> 18:53 < madmax> 23:52:13 epsy : [02:50] <epsy>: delete the most inner quote tags
00:54 <K-Yo> <dlh> 18:53 < madmax> 23:52:13 epsy : [02:50] <epsy>: so phpbb doesn't BS you
00:55 <epsy> on the forums now
00:55 <K-Yo> wow
00:55 <Vanhayes> stop when you reack page 19 tho
00:55 <dubStep> so stupid
00:55 <epsy> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=208714#p208714
00:55 <Vanhayes> reach*
00:55 <K-Yo> that implies opening a browser...
00:55 <madmax> no, 17
00:55 <dubStep> nah 18
00:55 <epsy> 13
00:55 <epsy> :-D
00:55 <dubStep> nowai
00:55 <epsy> don't stop until it's locked
00:55 <dubStep> this post stays open till guru gets back
00:55 <dubStep> the way its going it could reach 20
00:55 <Vanhayes> i wil post ms paintings untill it reaches 19 if i have to
00:55 <dubStep> rofl
00:56 <epsy> copypaste spam also allowed
00:56 <K-Yo> that seems quite a nice spammy thread!
00:56 <Vanhayes> yes
00:56 <dubStep> im temtped to draw one of the 3 stooges, mecca, taz and bitchmatic
00:57 <Vanhayes> since people stopped actually discussing the actual topic and decended into insults we all just started spamming
00:58 <epsy> I'm tempted to repost approximately 700 lolcats
00:58 <K-Yo> ok
00:58 <PinkTomato> Is that a good idea?
00:58 <epsy> quote it so the thread gets impossible to use
00:58 <PinkTomato> the best thing we can do to until a lock?
00:58 <PinkTomato> I see.
00:58 <epsy> probably.
00:58 <K-Yo> I don't understand the point, but as long as it's spamming, I love it...
00:59 <K-Yo> what is it about? a nice drama as we love it?
01:00 <epsy> ppl insulting destiny and her daughter atm, and posting pictures of them irl
01:00 <K-Yo> sweet
01:00 <K-Yo> I hate that
01:00  * dubStep is drawing a picture
01:01 <K-Yo> I don't know destiny well, but it seems to me she's nice and doing her best for WW?
01:01 <K-Yo> why attack nice people...
01:01 <K-Yo> ah
01:02 <K-Yo> I might spam more then
01:03 <PinkTomato> Only problem is, destiny may feel that we are taking a joke at her.
01:05 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, that can easily be solved with a PM
01:05 <K-Yo> or direct talk
01:05 <akira_arma> wtf 9 pages already
01:05 <epsy> PinkTomato, I've sent her a PM
01:05 <Vanhayes> just put a disclaimer saying this is directed at no one, just spamming a useless flame war untill it gets locked
01:05 <madmax> is the forum getting slow? just got a 503
01:08 <epsy> I'm sorry guys
01:08 <epsy> will 500 pictures of "fail" be enough?
01:08 <epsy> they're really unfunny :(
01:08 <dubStep> lol Vanhayes, i drew you a picture in MS paint
01:08 <dubStep> i'm uploading it now
01:09 <Vanhayes> im working on another one right now, i think it is my best so far
01:10 <akira_arma> omg this is already turning into a fullblown drama and i am only on page 3 xD
01:11 <dubStep> lmao
01:11 <dubStep> akira wait till u get to the drawings xD
01:11 <epsy> I found the cats
01:17 <epsy> ahaha crap
01:17 <epsy> crashed my browser
01:17 <dubStep> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19473&p=208723#p208723
01:17 <dubStep> Vanhayes: there's your picture
01:17 <dubStep> 6^
01:17 <dubStep> ^^
01:19 <Vanhayes> awsome, I knew i'd win
01:19 <dubStep> lol
01:20 <K-Yo> epsy, what the command to grant an access level to an whole "sub-authority"?
01:21 <K-Yo> is*
01:21 <K-Yo> please
01:21 <K-Yo> =)
01:21 <epsy> AUTHORITY_LEVEL ?
01:21 <K-Yo> hmmmm
01:21 <K-Yo> .cfg2 authority_lev
01:21 <tronner> K-Yo: AUTHORITY_LEVEL: Changes the access level for all users from the same authority. Mainly only useful for private authorities.(Default: )
01:21 <K-Yo> cool
01:21 <K-Yo> thanks =)
01:22 <epsy> if you have any other drawings to do hurry up, cats will eat the topic and you wont even be able to load it
01:22 <epsy> unless phpbb shows itself as a lamer again
01:23 <Vanhayes> ok one mroe just for madmax
01:23 <dubStep> lmao
01:23 <dubStep> i wana draw another one but im stuck for ideras
01:23 <dubStep> ideas*
01:23 <dubStep> i dont wana make any attacks on people
01:23 <dubStep> or do i.......... o_O
01:23 <Vanhayes> there we go
01:23 <Vanhayes> madmax, that one is for you
01:24 <dubStep> lmao!!!
01:24 <epsy> oh fuck, vim doesnt want to indent it
01:24 <dubStep> ive got it!
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01:25 <K-Yo> dubStep, u can attack me if u wish, I don't mind ;-)
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01:25 <dubStep> K-Yo, i could never do that :)
01:25 <sinewav> she's good at attacking.
01:25 <K-Yo> who is "she"?
01:25 <K-Yo> Vanhayes, so sexy
01:26 <K-Yo> (the drawing)
01:26 <madmax> the pink pony god :O
01:27 <epsy> syntax for images is [img]url[/img] ?
01:28 <Vanhayes> we all had our suspicion s
01:28 <sinewav> dubStep: lol @ OMGossip!
01:28 <epsy> syntax for images is [img]url[/img] ?
01:29 <Vanhayes> ya once you upload it there or somewhere else
01:29 <epsy> ok ty
01:29 <Vanhayes> not sure what the limits are before it cuts off though
01:29 <Vanhayes> my first one was too big so i just used attachments
01:31 <dubStep> sine_wav: ahaha
01:32 <dubStep> madmax: ive got one for u :p
01:33 <epsy> This message has been posted successfully.
01:33 <epsy> trashed!!!111
01:34 <Vanhayes> ugh my browser
01:34 <K-Yo> epsy, noce collection
01:34 <Vanhayes> should have added my lolcat into that last one
01:34 <K-Yo> nice*
01:34 <epsy> as said, props to lava_croft :)
01:35 <madmax> heh lame epsy
01:35 <dubStep> omg crashed browsers
01:35 <dubStep> someone link me again plox
01:35 <epsy> there are 665 of them
01:35 <K-Yo> I can quote =)
01:35 <madmax> woo, seems like they're all on the same domain
01:35 <epsy> yeah
01:35 <epsy> http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=6440.0
01:36 <Vanhayes> someone likes their cat way too much for it to be healthy
01:37 <madmax> Vanhayes: http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=208730#p208730
01:37 <K-Yo> madmax, nice one
01:37 <Vanhayes> cant load anything, all my base are belong to lolcats
01:38 <dubStep> zomg forums wont even load anymore
01:38 <madmax> edit the post epsy :'(
01:38 <epsy> the rst of the forums work just fine
01:38 <epsy> the thread is really trashed, however
01:38 <K-Yo> damn, my cache is full of this shit now
01:39 <madmax> http://satgnu.net/upload/cats/*
01:39 <Vanhayes> untill page 11
01:39 <epsy> haha
01:39 <madmax> @ urlfilter ftw
01:39 <Vanhayes> madmax, nice
01:39 <epsy> madmax, don't tell about that heh
01:39 <K-Yo> ^ ^
01:39 <madmax> I'm hoping it'd boost into drawings, now it's just wrecked
01:40 <dubStep> dude why cant i load forums anymore
01:40 <dubStep> :'(
01:40 <epsy> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/
01:40 <Vanhayes> epsy broke it
01:40 <dubStep> i need to post max's pic
01:40 <madmax> lol
01:40 <epsy> the thread is broken tho
01:40 <dubStep> it doesnt work
01:40 <dubStep> its just loading forever
01:40 <K-Yo> not for me :/
01:40 <epsy> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/ that works for me
01:40 <Vanhayes> hit the x
01:41 <dubStep> you broke firefox ><
01:41 <Vanhayes> madmax, round stars! brilliant, mine were just square
01:41 <dubStep> you lot
01:41 <madmax> haha
01:41 <K-Yo> loaded!
01:41 <Vanhayes> someone tell me when page 11 starts, i dont want to load the lolcats again
01:42 <epsy> someone will just quote them
01:42 <epsy> if 11 starts =)
01:42 <Vanhayes> someone being you?
01:42 <epsy> perhaps
01:42 <dubStep> lol epsy wtf
01:42 <Vanhayes> ok, only do it if the flaming starts up again, id like to keep up the ms paintings
01:43  * madmax challenges epsy to replace the lolcats by a nice home made painting
01:43 <dubStep> lol yea epsy we're drawing ours =P
01:43 <dubStep> or at least editing like i did for max
01:44 <epsy> madmax, I refuse the challenge =)
01:44 <madmax> K-Yo just quoted
01:44 <madmax> :|
01:44 <dubStep> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19473&p=208733#p208733
01:44 <madmax> epsy: you are now banned from the internets.
01:44 <dubStep> madmax, there's yours
01:44 <dubStep> :p
01:44 <Vanhayes> 665 hand drawn lolcats
01:44 <Vanhayes> epsy, why didny you make it an nice round 666?
01:44 <madmax> haha that's a good one
01:45 <epsy> Vanhayes, I didn't have 666
01:45 <epsy> but if you have one feel free to give it to me :D
01:46 <dubStep> lol ms paint is addictive
01:47 <epsy> so is DrJoeTron
01:49 <Vanhayes> i could write lol on a post it and stick it to my cat
01:50 <epsy> or i just put an ibtl as 666th
01:50 <Vanhayes> but i dont hvae a camera so that would only amuse me
01:51 <Vanhayes> madmax, is that a spaceman or an alien?
01:51 <madmax> what, doesn't it look like me?
01:52 <dubStep> lol epsy i have one for you too :p
01:52 <Vanhayes> unless you have severe jaundice i dont think so
01:52 <epsy> there
01:52 <epsy> I put a 666th image
01:53 <dubStep> too late :p
01:53 <dubStep> we know u cant count
01:53 <dubStep> its ok
01:53 <dubStep> :)
01:53 <epsy> i just copied it and it had 665
01:54 <dubStep> haha
01:54 <epsy> so, now it has 666 images, enjoy
01:54 <epsy> and quote!
01:54 <Vanhayes> im glad firefox has an option to block images right in  it
01:54 <madmax> everyone knows that in pluto you look orange
01:54 <Vanhayes> my computer literaly just stopped doing anything while that loaded for about 2 mins
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01:55 <Vanhayes> psh, you are different shades of black and white
01:55 <dubStep> rofl sinewav
01:55 <dubStep> POST!
01:55 <Vanhayes> common knowledge
01:55 <Vanhayes> and blue
01:55 <dubStep> ok sinewav im drawing one for you too
01:55 <dubStep> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19473&p=208738#p208738
01:55 <dubStep> heres urs epsy
01:57 <epsy> <3
01:58 <sinewav> man I'm hungry
01:58 <sinewav> any suggestions?
01:59 <epsy> eat some lolcats
01:59 <sinewav> lol!
01:59 <sinewav> LOL LOL LOL LOL
02:00 <epsy> oops :-
02:00 <madmax> forum looks dead from here
02:00 <epsy> works fine here
02:00 <epsy> thread loads terrible tho
02:01 <epsy> thanks to phpbb3's superslow bbcode parsing
02:01 <Vanhayes> dead as in no more flaming
02:01 <Vanhayes> which is what i think we set out to do
02:02 <Vanhayes> well no one pick less then 13 so if it gets locked like this no one wins
02:02 <Vanhayes> then again if it gets over 13 i dont think any of us win either
02:02 <sinewav> no I said 10
02:02 <sinewav> I win then
02:03 <Vanhayes> cant have that
02:03 <sinewav> yeah, it hasn't been locked either, so game on.
02:03 <Vanhayes> but it does seem we have stopped the insulting
02:04 <sinewav> yeah and none of the perpetrators are watching the forum, just us spammers.
02:04 <Vanhayes> well probably epsy more then us, everyone's browser overloaded with lolcats
02:04 <epsy> =D
02:04 <epsy> post 4chan smiley
02:04  * Vanhayes still blocked those
02:05 <Vanhayes> i want to do some more ms paint-ing
02:05 <sinewav> I never got started... :(
02:07 <dubStep> ok sinewav here comes yours
02:07 <sinewav> yay!
02:07 <dubStep> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19473&p=208744#p208744
02:07 <dubStep> muahaha page 11
02:07 <dubStep> xD
02:08 <epsy> meh :D
02:09 <epsy> you could replace the stick figures with dinosaurs
02:09 <dubStep> LOL!
02:09 <sinewav> dinosaurs!
02:09 <epsy> you don't even get the joke dub :P
02:10 <dubStep> we should make an archive for all of these
02:10 <dubStep> im loling at sines post
02:10 <epsy> rofl
02:10 <sinewav> http://www.qwantz.com/index.php
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02:11 <Vanhayes> aw you put our ms paintings to shame
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02:12 <sinewav> I'm a photoshop pro. sorry.
02:12 <dubStep> lmao
02:12 <sinewav> And I can't seem to use paint without my tablet, which is at work.
02:12 <sinewav> I'm spoiled.
02:13 <dubStep> :/
02:13 <dubStep> spoil sport
02:13 <dubStep> ms paint makes it more funny
02:14 <Vanhayes> yes crudely drawn pictures are more entertaining then superior artistry
02:14 <sinewav> I know, I hate that about myself.
02:14 <Vanhayes> tell me you had that already made and it didnt take you just 5 mins to make
02:14 <sinewav> Actually, it took me less than 5.
02:14 <sinewav> I'm that good.
02:15 <sinewav> it's took me jsut as long to find pictures as to comp them.
02:15 <dubStep> lmao
02:15 <dubStep>  /vote command silence sinewav
02:15 <Vanhayes> i feel very inadequate
02:15 <dubStep> +1
02:16 <dubStep> o no browser crash :S
02:16 <sinewav> don't. I've been using photoshop 8 hours a day since v3
02:16 <dubStep> sinewav, racing?
02:16 <Vanhayes> maky needs to learn how to quote
02:16 <Vanhayes> mkay*
02:16 <dubStep> lmao
02:16 <epsy> fuck i clicked preview
02:16 <epsy> :D
02:17 <dubStep> lol
02:17 <sinewav> dubStep: I need food. not racing. help me decide.
02:17 <dubStep> -.-'
02:18 <Vanhayes> damn madmax there are 3 plutos now
02:18 <Vanhayes> i like how we all put our nation's flags in there tho
02:18 <madmax> haha I was hoping for a recursive pluto thing
02:19 <dubStep> lol
02:20 <epsy> did 1200 learn to quote btw?
02:20 <madmax> dubStep: major fuckup alert is copyrighted you know
02:20 <Vanhayes> i love how its kim jong ill but there is an american flag
02:20 <dubStep> thats why its in quotation marks
02:20 <madmax> should have the © there!
02:21 <epsy> I use that as bind in quakelive
02:21 <epsy> sue me
02:21 <dubStep> lol
02:21 <Vanhayes> with "copyright of madmax 2009" in small print
02:21 <Vanhayes> oh no mkay found out how to quote properly
02:22 <epsy> hey
02:22 <epsy> how about I remove the linebreaks
02:22 <madmax> epsy: I'll be talking with the FBI, don't worry
02:22 <epsy> so that browser tries to do breaks itself
02:23 <dubStep> rofl madmax
02:25 <dubStep> http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/fail-owned-locked-door-security-fail.jpg
02:25 <dubStep> lololol
02:31 <dubStep> omg someone ban mkay for quoting epsy
02:31 <epsy> if your PC doesn't die after trying to align the pictures..
02:31 <dubStep> lol
02:31 <dubStep> dude
02:31 <dubStep> i wana reply rofl
02:31 <epsy> I removed the linebreaks :P
02:31 <dubStep> but i cant lol
02:32 <epsy> hahahaha
02:32 <dubStep> taking too long, my laptop and wireless cant handle it
02:32 <epsy> topic review ftw
02:32 <epsy> or did it tell you I posted in the meantime?
02:32 <dubStep> neither cant even get that far
02:32 <Vanhayes> if you are using firefox dubStep right click and "block all pictures from"
02:32 <epsy> where's luci
02:32 <dubStep> 381 items remaining to load
02:33 <Vanhayes> epsy, he si viewing that thread atm i guess
02:33 <Vanhayes> is*
02:34 <dubStep> not using firefox anymore
02:34 <epsy> I know
02:34 <epsy> but he isn't in the chan
02:34 <Vanhayes> dubStep, well thats how i stopped them from loading
02:34 <dubStep> firefox has a problem with forums now, doesnt wana loads them at all
02:35 <dubStep> arma forums that is
02:36 <Vanhayes> hmm, thats weird mine work fine
02:36 <epsy> Vanhayes, what version of firefox do you have?
02:36 <Vanhayes> hmm 3. something
02:36 <madmax> hah good point, foes list
02:36 <epsy> say that in irc not in the thread >>
02:37 <Vanhayes> lol @ luci
02:38 <dubStep> zomg epsy
02:38 <dubStep> ur goin in foes list
02:38 <dubStep> till page 12 at least
02:38 <epsy> I'm ok with ppl putting me in foes list at one condition
02:38 <epsy> that I can put rajinn in mine
02:38 <dubStep> lmao
02:38 <Vanhayes> go for it
02:38 <epsy> I can't
02:39 <epsy> try for yourself
02:39 <Vanhayes> no need to put you in it since all yours show up is 2 urls
02:39 <epsy> you don't even want to see the IBTL one?
02:40 <dubStep> omg mk goes in too
02:40 <Vanhayes> yes he went in
02:40 <Vanhayes> wish i could do that in tron
02:40 <dubStep> lmao
02:41 <epsy> i have images turned off atm
02:41 <epsy> lol
02:41 <dubStep> finally i can post this for me and hayes
02:41 <dubStep> because of sine
02:41 <dubStep> 1 sec
02:42 <epsy> oops quote fail
02:42 <dubStep> but u still get forced to read it ><
02:42 <dubStep> in review topic in reply
02:42 <dubStep> ffs
02:42 <dubStep> someone delete mkay's post!!!
02:42 <dubStep> damn it
02:42 <dubStep> ><
02:43 <epsy> yeah, :twisted: :evil: takes longer to load somehow
02:43 <dubStep> i hate that noob
02:43 <dubStep> someone start page 12 kthxbai
02:44 <dubStep> http://n3t.net/humor/motivation/paint.jpg
02:44 <dubStep> Vanhayes
02:44 <epsy> dubStep, will still show in topic review \:D/
02:45 <Vanhayes> dubStep, ha nice
02:45 <Vanhayes> why spider man?
02:45 <dubStep> delete delete delete!
02:45 <dubStep> lol idk
02:45 <dubStep> its not mine lol
02:45 <dubStep> i found it
02:45 <Vanhayes> oh ya, wher edid you get that pink pony of the apocalypse?
02:45 <Vanhayes> ive seen it before
02:45 <dubStep> lmao
02:45 <dubStep> google
02:46 <dubStep> that was my best one i think
02:46 <madmax> heh
02:46 <dubStep> ^^
02:46 <madmax> I thought you were the one to draw it
02:46 <dubStep> lolol no
02:47 <Vanhayes> is that huge yellow thing stickig out of the guy's face in luci's painting a nose?
02:47 <Vanhayes> or is like a duck's bill
02:48 <madmax> looks more like a duck
02:48 <dubStep> lol
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02:56 <Vanhayes> ha
02:56 <Vanhayes> #m madmax Nice quit message
02:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
02:58 <Vanhayes> .as
02:58 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 56 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (19/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (12/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), tronners->racing (5/11), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (4/8), The YELLOW Submarine (4/12), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (3/12), Wild West  =High Rubber= (3/16), -=VcL.Clan DogFight (100mbit) (3/10), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (100mbit) (1 more message)
02:58 <Vanhayes> .si mega
02:58 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (19/32): +Holy+, -=fg|~gaia, .×] $ubzero, .×]SirHoax [|:, .pRu|Hell-lo, Bellum, ePlayerNetID* e, Lady dubs +¦:), Lard, mac, Marquis Hoop :} (hoop@forums), MK-Pablo d:{D, Qeen Liza +{|:) (Liza@xats.ath.cx), Radian +, rasterfahrer, vip assassin, WelshNotBritish, Wildcat, |OKO|E-Dog|415|
03:11 <epsy> oh man
03:11 <epsy> luci owned me
03:12 <sinewav> saw that.
03:12 <epsy> it's the last post on the page
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03:20 <Vanhayes> ha
03:22 <epsy> http://satgnu.net/upload/cats/DSC00804.jpg
03:22 <epsy> omg keyboard cat \o/
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03:33 <Vanhayes> ok one more ms paint-ing
03:34 <ct|kyle> I'll do mine :P
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03:40 <Vanhayes> it was a pluto themed one again
03:42 <ct|kyle> I put mine up
03:42 <ct|kyle> :P
03:42 <ct|kyle> really screwwy 2 minute picture
03:43 <ct|kyle> looks like a giant chocolate chip cookie
03:44 <Vanhayes> isnt that what pluto really is?
03:44 <ct|kyle> sure :P
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08:33 <z-man> holy shit, forum explosion
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09:19 <wrtlprnft> indeed
09:20 <wrtlprnft> that's rare even for those forums
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09:51 <Lucifer> haha, it was fun though
09:52  * Lucifer is halfway tempted to go find other threads worthy of random kolourpaint madness
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10:27 <Lucifer> #ping
10:27 <armabot> pong
10:28 <Lucifer> #ping
10:28 <armabot> pong
10:28 <Lucifer> [03:25] <Lucifer> #ping
10:28 <Lucifer> [03:27] <armabot> pong
10:28 <Lucifer> LAAAAAG!
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12:22 <guru3> well i have to say
12:22 <guru3> im only 3 pages in and what a shit storm
12:33 <PinkTomato> agreed.
12:36 <guru3> i saw the irc this morning in one of my random checks
12:36 <guru3> ive come to the computer lab to deal with this specifically
12:36 <guru3> 2:14 before my battery dies
12:41 <PinkTomato> Are you deleting certain posts?
12:41 <guru3> ive only deleted epsys cts so far
12:41 <guru3> it was fucking killing the system
12:42 <PinkTomato> There are few more cats on the next set of pages.
12:42 <guru3> yeah so it seems
12:43 <guru3> this is not cool
12:43 <guru3> it's eating all my memory
12:43 <PinkTomato> Well epsy PC struggled to post it, must be awful to read it.
12:43 <guru3> im now more pissed at epsy than the rest of them
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19:48 <Vanhayes> .as
19:48 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 13 seconds old; good (15/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (14/32), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (8/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (6/9), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (6/12), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (100mbit) (6/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (5/16), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (5/10), [] (1 more message)
19:48 <Vanhayes> good?
19:48 <Vanhayes> .si good
19:48 <tronner> Vanhayes: good: Players (15/16): 3.1416PKI, Armagetron, Blake, Bobby, DaviD, hi, Matthew, Ossy, Purple shirt, samD, skittle boi, Stephen, THE ChrisOnator, tom, TomEck
19:48 <Vanhayes> .si mega
19:48 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (14/32): -||BS|Hype, .×] Hoax, Fürst ChrisGW (ChrisGW@forums), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Graham, JBRPG, MµtH.BóT (htym@ct), prince Nuby, Qeen Liza +{|:) (Liza@xats.ath.cx), sunnygirl, Thump.uNk, _~R~_Tðbê, ~*Delta*~, ~|DS|~AshitakA
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21:32 <madmax> warning: there's a bunch of role playing freaks on mega fort
21:32 <madmax> beware!
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22:11 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [server-browser] r14 Add server class, and use it when selecting all servers....
22:16 <armabot> armacommits: [server-browser] r14 Add server class, and use it when selecting all servers....
22:17 <epsy> madmax, are they doing anything bad?
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22:29 <TaZ_> hi
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23:26 <dubStep> Vanhayes: ping
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23:52 <epsy> shit, we have an anarchist!!!!!!!!
23:54 <sine_wav> anarchist? where?
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00:02 <Lucifer> this whole channel is full of anarchists
00:02 <sine_wav> oh I see. I better leave then.
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00:06 <K-Yo> <epsy> shit, we have an anarchist!!!!!!!!
00:06 <K-Yo> <sine_wav> anarchist? where?
00:06 <K-Yo> * z-man est parti (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
00:06 <K-Yo> you scared him out!
00:11 <dubStep> K-Yo: u never stay ><
00:15 <K-Yo> dubStep, don't I?
00:16 <epsy> [01:30] * Glop [n=alex@AToulouse-156-1-25-44.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] a rejoint #armagetron
00:16 <epsy> [01:30] <Glop>: WAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !
00:16 <epsy> [01:30] * Glop [n=alex@AToulouse-156-1-25-44.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] est sorti de #armagetron ("Quitte")
00:20 <Vanhayes_> dubStep, pong
00:21 <dubStep> Vanhayes: bot upgrade! took too long
00:21 <Vanhayes_> what bot?
00:21 <Vanhayes_> im confused
00:21 <dubStep> ><
00:21 <dubStep> nvm
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00:22 <Vanhayes_> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19473&start=195 < I had one more in me
00:23 <Vanhayes_> madmax, what do you mean people are role playing?
00:23 <Vanhayes_> how does that work?
00:23 <Revolutionary> LOL!
00:23 <Revolutionary> omg hayes thats amazing
00:23 <madmax> lol
00:23  * Revolutionary lols
00:23 <Vanhayes_> keep posting in there it needs to get to 19
00:24 <madmax> there were princesses and sirs and kings and dictators and...
00:24 <epsy> Vanhayes_, Revolutionary is a chatbot, in case you didn't know
00:24 <Revolutionary> lmao
00:24 <epsy> see it's standard reaction =)
00:24 <Revolutionary> its
00:24 <epsy> it's
00:24 <Vanhayes_> #eliza its
00:24 <epsy> there's an exception for it
00:24 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Can you elaborate on that?
00:25 <Vanhayes_> thats a chatbot
00:25 <epsy> that's a crap chatbot
00:25 <Revolutionary> queen liza, princess dubs, princess jj, sir hoax, lord fofo, prince nuby, sir zap, jester mkay-1
00:25 <Vanhayes_> ?
00:25 <madmax> craaaazy.
00:25 <Revolutionary> marquis hoop
00:25 <Vanhayes_> that is strange
00:25 <Revolutionary> lol
00:27 <Vanhayes_> btw Jim was 1 week from retirement, such a shame
00:28 <Revolutionary> lol hayes
00:33 <madmax> hah nice cartoon
00:36 <Vanhayes_> thanks
00:37 <Vanhayes_> i use gimp tho not ms paint
00:38 <P4> what does line 8:" // Replace forums with the name of your AAGID authority." of armaauth's config.php mean?
00:38 <epsy> epsy@forums
00:39 <P4> if i change $dbs['forums'] to $dbs['ct'] it will fail with index.php on line 7 :þ
00:39 <epsy> epsy@crazy-tronners.com
00:39 <P4> no, it's 'forum' value on our auth
00:39 <epsy> well, I don't remember every single line I wrote, with the line number associated to it..
00:39 <epsy> can you please give a full "fail" message?
00:40 <P4> http://crazy-tronners.com/jodas/
00:40 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: good one, :)
00:40 <P4> refresh
00:40 <Vanhayes_> Lucifer, thanks
00:40 <epsy> speaks for itself
00:40 <P4> epsy: line 7 is $con = mysql_connect($dbs['forums']['host'], $dbs['forums']['user'], $dbs['forums']['passwd']);
00:40 <P4> :þ
00:40 <Vanhayes_> ive been meaning to screw around with gimp but never really had an idea
00:41 <P4> you put the forums staticly there
00:41 <epsy> are you using the latest revision?
00:41 <P4> i hope
00:41 <P4> when was the last one updated?
00:42 <P4> i'm quite blind in finding any informations about armaauthd
00:42 <P4> including the code :)
00:42 <epsy> there's no index.php in my package
00:44 <P4> is there any forum topic in dev section about the authd?
00:44 <epsy> what
00:45 <P4> eek, you're right, no index.php
00:46 <P4> see, it's all about missing documentation! :þ
00:46 <epsy> I don't even know where you got this
00:46 <epsy> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18777
00:46 <P4> i'm affraid i did it myself and forgot (:
00:48 <P4> thanks for the link
00:49 <epsy> OP is lonely and needs feedback
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01:00  * TaZ_ misses mibbit...
01:02 <Vanhayes_> what is a mibbit?
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01:05 <Ratchet--> hello
01:10 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: mibbit is an IRC client FreeNode banned
01:10 <Vanhayes> why did they ban it?
01:13 <Luke-Jr> dunno
01:31 <epsy> because it was pissing hard to ban someone abusing through mibbit
01:31 <epsy> without banning whole mibbit
01:31 <epsy> and mibbit staff was rather uncooperative
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01:41 <madmax> we could need another drawing
02:11 <TaZ_> i loved mibbit though
02:11 <TaZ_> oh well
02:13 <P4> wth are you talkking about?
02:13 <P4> 19Jun09 024041 * Mr_Shrub (i=61705391@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4a85471df578de4f) has left ##poland
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02:15 <TaZ_> mibbit?
02:19 <P4> http://blog.freenode.net/2009/06/new-freenode-webchat-and-why-to-use-it/ ah yes
02:23 <TaZ_> kk
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02:47 <Vanhayes> .as
02:47 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 5 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (12/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (8/32), -=VcL.Clan Sumo (100mbit) (8/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (6/8), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (5/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (1 more message)
02:47 <Vanhayes> .si mega
02:47 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (8/32): ¶Pøtter, Cosmic Dolphin, nara, noob13 (noob13@forums), pRü!nûmb3r$, Richie, Rumble Bumble, ULTRA
02:48 <Vanhayes> .si sumo
02:48 <tronner> Vanhayes: -=VcL.Clan Sumo (100mbit): Players (8/12): -=VcL.ÇrµSh, -=VcL.mecca <3, -=VcL.Spook (Spook@vcl-clan.com), -=VcL.TaZ, Cody <3, Elegua, Lizmatic, _~`Ww_Neal
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08:44 <Lucifer> yay, we get to make more *paint comics
09:00 <Lucifer> #m epsy did you put anything in that thread that wasn't a pile of lolcats?
09:01 <armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
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15:26 <P4> that Word's suggstion about /admin freeze command is great in my opinion (:
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16:07 <Vanhayes_> .as
16:07 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 17 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (14/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (8/8), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (5/9), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. (5/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (4/12), Wild West  =High Rubber= (1/16), (1 more message)
16:08 <Vanhayes_> .si sumo
16:08 <tronner> Vanhayes_: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (11/12): -||BS|Monopoly, -||BS|Noob x) (ChrisGW@forums), .pRu|Hell-lo, ¬¦¦ÞS¦Ther, Billy, C T ~ S A T A N (I\'m.hot), ct¬safariskate, CT_emphasis, Prestige, WTF IS A TRON, ~|DS|~rugkei (rugkei@ct)
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16:14 <epsy> we gotta put that on the wiki Vanhayes_
16:15 <Vanhayes_> heh
16:15 <Vanhayes_> go for it
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16:18 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r676 add tennis like sets between rounds and matches + challenge ...
16:21 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r676 add tennis like sets between rounds and matches + challenge ...
16:26 <epsy> actually I put it on our uncyclopedia article :]
16:26 <epsy> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Armagetron#Soup_Spoon_Championship
16:42 <Vanhayes> forgot that was in existance
16:47 <epsy> heh
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16:51 <compguygene> hi, any developers available?
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16:51 <epsy> ask
16:52 <epsy>  
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16:53 <epsy> don't ask to ask, just ask, please
16:53 <compguygene> i know you guys have been following the whole ID forum hack thing
16:54 <compguygene> i just wanted to let you know...i have been talking with all parties involved
16:54 <compguygene> to defuse hostilities
16:54 <compguygene> and have noticed a few patterns of behavior that really make it sound like cloaket may be involved in some way here
16:56 <compguygene> obviously without any real contact with codehunter, nothing can be proven
16:56 <compguygene> and arilou is waiting to hear back from his forum provider, they are restoring his admin control panel to the old ID forums
16:57 <compguygene> so he will be able to provide the IP of who "rick rolled" the ID forums
16:57 <compguygene> it appears that the ID forums were never actually deleted, just the main webpage changed
16:58 <epsy> that sounded like it
16:58 <compguygene> that was my original thoughts as well
16:58 <epsy> but um, what do the devs have to do with this?
16:59 <compguygene> nothing really
16:59 <Luke-Jr> exactly my thoughts XD
16:59 <compguygene> but, a few of the devs have expressed concern about a reappearnce of cloaket
16:59 <Vanhayes> just keeping everyone informed of the details i guess
16:59 <compguygene> i am just being informative
16:59 <compguygene> exactly
17:00 <compguygene> I prefer to communicate stuff to all relevant people
17:00 <epsy> I don't think he's gonna move away until he's in jail
17:00 <compguygene> I can see your point there, why would he?
17:00 <epsy> well,
17:01 <epsy> that won't happen until he makes a terrible mistake
17:01 <compguygene> i know
17:01 <epsy> but uh, didn't he rob money from someone's paypal?
17:01 <compguygene> eventually greed, or a lust for power will always get a criminal
17:01 <Vanhayes> btw compguygene the reason we all put paintings on there was because of the personal attacks, and no admin available
17:01 <compguygene> no, nothing was stolen
17:01 <compguygene> i know
17:01 <compguygene> i laughed
17:02 <epsy> were the cats cute?
17:02 <compguygene> yes...but tank did have a point epsy
17:02 <epsy> heh
17:02 <compguygene> my wife and i both luv lolcats
17:03 <compguygene> I really liked all the paintings!
17:03 <compguygene> I think that they were actually therapeutic for the community
17:03  * compguygene is really a closet anarchist
17:04 <Luke-Jr> epsy: police don't really care about burglery unless it's at least a few thousand :/
17:04 <compguygene> well, thank you for your time.  I know your time is VERY valuable
17:04 <compguygene> I have nothing further to share at this time.
17:04 <epsy> Luke-Jr, yeah, until he does a big mistake :)
17:05 <compguygene> is there anything else you guys would like to ask me?
17:05 <epsy> compguygene, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159240409X/104-0438709-2420749?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwlulzftwcom-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=159240409X
17:06 <epsy> if you like lolcats :-P
17:06 <compguygene> lol, i am too cheap to pay 1 penny for that!
17:07 <compguygene> but thanks
17:07 <compguygene> well, i do have other things to do...thank you again for your time
17:08 <compguygene> i will lurk, in case anyone wants to ask me anything
17:11 <madmax> canada must be really nice if code hasn't appeared yet
17:11 <madmax> can you confirm Vanhayes?
17:12 <Vanhayes> roger that, canada is a pleasant place to run away to
17:18 <compguygene> for the record...it is doubtful, as you no doubt have guessed, that Code is in Canada
17:19 <compguygene> ppl keep randomly reporting sightings of Code to me
17:19 <compguygene> also
17:19 <compguygene> he has told many different conflicting stories about his occupation
17:19 <compguygene> so, The only truth I know is this
17:20 <epsy> he lies all the time
17:20 <compguygene> Code refuses to respond to any of this
17:20 <Vanhayes> im guessing unemployed parental basement dwellar
17:20 <compguygene> just like he did the last 2 summers
17:20 <compguygene> my suspicion as well
17:21 <compguygene> but, I am a patient man
17:21 <compguygene> and this will not just "blow over" as he hopes it will
17:26 <compguygene> JC1L0RD68
17:26 <compguygene> GRR
17:27 <compguygene> wrong window
17:27 <Luke-Jr> that your root password? :þ
17:27 <epsy> no, it's the password to the luke-jr account
17:27 <compguygene> was
17:27 <Luke-Jr> heh
17:27 <compguygene> just changed it
17:27 <PinkTomato> almost quite secure
17:27 <epsy> is your oa server up?
17:28 <epsy> har.
17:28 <compguygene> was a temporary one
17:28 <Luke-Jr> XD
17:28 <Luke-Jr> all root passwords are temporary
17:28 <compguygene> lol
17:28 <epsy> last time I tried punctuation, nickserv completely messed up on me
17:28 <epsy> or so did I :x
17:29 <epsy> compguygene, have you setup your oa server?
17:29 <compguygene> i am creating your account right now epsy, so you can work on your project.
17:29 <compguygene> oa server?
17:29 <compguygene> oh
17:29 <compguygene> hehe
17:29 <compguygene> low on the priority list
17:29 <epsy> ah well, I'm not gonna work on my projects for the next week
17:29 <compguygene> i know
17:29 <epsy> ill be away :x
17:30 <epsy> well k
17:30 <epsy> I'll play some CTF
17:30 <compguygene> the oa server will get done this week
17:30 <epsy> dont forget cpma :x
17:30 <compguygene> i know
17:30 <compguygene> gotta luv that..tried it out per ur instruction, ty
17:49 <compguygene> i do need to do some real life stuff
17:49 <compguygene> later guys
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18:10 <nsh22> dubStep: hai
18:10 <dubStep> elo
18:11 <nsh22> i was just on the ds mega for t server and u said nothing:(
18:11 <nsh22> </3
18:11 <nsh22> :D
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18:21 <dubStep> im kinda not payign attention to that
18:21 <dubStep> im drawing in ms paint
18:22 <dubStep> or this
18:22 <nsh22> :P u still drawing your kingdom?
18:22 <dubStep> lol
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18:28 <dubStep> lol i kinda gave up on that
18:29 <dubStep> now im drawing the 1st part of "armagetron - the beginning"
18:29 <dubStep> ^^
18:30 <Luke-Jr> pfft MS paint
18:30 <Luke-Jr> use KolourPaint!
18:32 <dubStep> lol
18:32 <dubStep> ms paint is addictive :(
18:32 <Luke-Jr> use KolourPaint!
18:33 <dubStep> il check it out, since im finished now
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18:59 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr, Use Gimp!
19:00 <Luke-Jr> f u
19:00 <Luke-Jr> gimp sucks
19:00 <epsy> kr kr kritaaaaa!!!!
19:00 <epsy> http://www.aftertheimpact.com/
19:00 <Vanhayes> you suck men in gimp suits
19:01 <Luke-Jr> epsy: FAIL
19:01 <dubStep> lol?
19:02 <Vanhayes> epsy, what is that?
19:02 <Vanhayes> dubStep, nice painting
19:02 <dubStep> haha ty, part 1
19:02 <dubStep> :p
19:02 <epsy> a teaser website for a game
19:02 <epsy> or, perhaps, a loading screen =)
19:02 <Vanhayes> epsy, it is loading really slow, what game?
19:03 <epsy> rage
19:03 <epsy> from id
19:03 <Vanhayes> a bunch of lolcats arent going to jump out at me are they?
19:03 <epsy> heh
19:03 <epsy> no
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19:08 <Vanhayes> well that was dissapoiting it loaded all the way the nothing came up
19:09 <Luke-Jr> KDE 4.3 feels faster
19:11 <epsy> Vanhayes, huh?
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19:13 <Vanhayes> epsy, the little world thing loaded all the way dissapeared, then it was just black for 2 mins
19:13 <Vanhayes> my comps been slow tho
19:13 <madmax> dubStep: this weekend's essential mix is dedicated to you :o
19:13 <epsy> :/
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19:14 <dubStep> ?
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19:14 <dubStep> madmax: what essential mix?
19:14 <epsy> "essential mix" is something i've often found in armagetron cockpit names
19:14 <epsy> :P
19:15 <madmax> bbc radio 1's essential mix?
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19:15 <Vanhayes> my microwave keeps starting itslef
19:15 <Vanhayes> i think it has become sentient
19:15 <epsy> you must sacrifice someone for it to stop
19:15 <Vanhayes> the robot uprising is nigh!
19:16 <Vanhayes> i well sacrife leftover grilled chicken to it
19:16 <dubStep> lol
19:16 <Vanhayes> er, sacrifice*
19:16 <dubStep> i need ideas for part 2
19:16 <Vanhayes> horrible typos today
19:16 <Vanhayes> typoes?
19:16 <dubStep> typos*
19:16 <epsy> I've had horrible typos for weeks now :s
19:16 <dubStep> lol
19:16 <dubStep> haha
19:17 <Vanhayes> ok so what were the bets for page limit again?
19:17 <Vanhayes> i think epsy lost 3 pages ago at 13
19:17 <dubStep> lol
19:17 <dubStep> its 16 now
19:17 <epsy> it was almost locked at page 13
19:17 <epsy> :(
19:17 <dubStep> im right, it will go past 20
19:17 <dubStep> guru wont lock it, nowai
19:17 <dubStep> and even if he does
19:17 <dubStep> im strating a new one for pictures
19:18 <Vanhayes> just use the petition one if it gets locked
19:18 <Vanhayes> http://mojo1000.com/  <---- why does it not surprise me that 2020 likes this
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19:19 <dubStep> 2020 is a nut
19:20 <Vanhayes> yes but a good nut
19:20 <Vanhayes> he is like an almond
19:20 <dubStep> lol
19:20 <Vanhayes> mecca;s avatar and sig creep me the fuck out
19:20 <dubStep> mecca is a strange kid
19:21 <Vanhayes> i can tell
19:21 <epsy> wow
19:21 <epsy> I disabled sigs
19:21 <epsy> a long time ago heh
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19:21 <Vanhayes> im just hoping he just recently got the pink pony stuff, otherwise it is really disturbing
19:22 <madmax> is mecca a girl?
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19:23 <dubStep> no
19:23 <dubStep> hes a dude
19:23 <Vanhayes> no girls on internet madmax, babybug should have taught you that
19:23 <dubStep> who insists hes not gay
19:23 <dubStep> excuse you but me and liza are girls.
19:23 <Vanhayes> so you claim
19:23 <madmax> lol
19:24 <dubStep> anyway, if u'd heard him speak u would think hes gay too
19:24 <Vanhayes> joking joking
19:24 <Vanhayes> is mecca that vcl guy who is in supergays too?
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19:26 <dubStep> yea
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19:41 <epsy> {super}
19:41 <epsy> \:D/
19:49 <dubStep> lol
19:49 <dubStep> that ladle match was our downfall.
20:05 <dlh> ct|kyle: bzr merge lp:~dlh/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
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20:19 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r677 Merge from 0.2.8-sty || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] Merge from 0.2.8
20:20 <nsh22> wewt
20:21 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r677 Merge from 0.2.8-sty || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] Merge from 0.2.8
20:21 <nsh22> dubStep: hoed the paint thing go
20:21 <nsh22> howed*
20:21 <nsh22> and whos making commits?
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21:30 <compguygene> i have breaking news about the id forums
21:31 <compguygene> arilou just tried to access the admin control panel, all accounts have been deleted
21:31 <compguygene> i directed arilou to contact forumer with that information so they could take further action
21:32 <compguygene> also there is one other thing to be considered
21:33 <compguygene> creator, who had an admin account on the ID forums, used the same password everywhere
21:33 <compguygene> including the sp forums when they were hacked
21:33 <compguygene> if cloaket managed to crack the password files
21:34 <compguygene> he would have creator's password, and prolly would have tried it
21:34 <nubStep> lol..
21:35 <nubStep> u still think this was cloaket?
21:35 <compguygene> i have no idea
21:35 <compguygene> i am only presenting all possibilities
21:35 <compguygene> but
21:35 <compguygene> we now know that whoever did it deleted all the accounts of the forum
21:36 <nubStep> this whol ething doesnt even feel like cloaket
21:36 <compguygene> i agreee
21:36 <nubStep> i know who it does feel like though... :/
21:36 <compguygene> and i still strongly suspect that code did it and is trying to blame someone
21:36 <compguygene> who
21:37 <nubStep> gota say, its a shame said persons are getting off scot free.
21:37 <compguygene> i know what u mean
21:38 <nubStep> this little "agreement" is total bs imo. that just means theyve won... u guys are basically saying, its ok have yet ANOTHER chance. hey why not do it again because we wont ever prosecute...
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21:39 <compguygene> well
21:39 <compguygene> destiny is also afraid to lose her job as a teacher
21:40 <compguygene> they could easily post a few pics, make a phone call and she is fired...it has happened to other teachers
21:40 <compguygene> but this agreement may not last..for a lot of reasons
21:40 <dubStep> dude. regardless of peoples fears etc. u cant let people continue doing stuff like this and taking no punishment. hacking isn't a joke. and if dest is afraid of blackmail she shouldnt be.
21:40 <compguygene> it is temporary, at best
21:41 <dubStep> how often do people actually get proof of the hackers identity etc?
21:41 <dubStep> theres no questions about it. not going through with it is being soft.
21:42 <compguygene> i will take that under advisement...u r of course correct in every way
21:42 <dubStep> like i said, said people are probably laughing it off, knowing that nothing is going to be done about it...
21:42 <compguygene> all i can say...is things may change
21:42 <compguygene> much is going on behind the scenes
21:43 <dubStep>  sinewav: ping
21:43 <compguygene> i only ask for your patience
21:44 <dubStep> lol, in all honesty, this doesnt affect me in any way. i wasnt active on id forums at all, im not in id. i just think that if not only for moral reasons, that these said people should be dealt with properly. if they ARE prosecuted then it serves as an example to others. leaving it as it is just means they can laugh it off... in fact laugh in your face really... knowing that they pulled a fast one.
21:45 <compguygene> lol, I know exactly how you feel there
21:45 <compguygene> but
21:45 <compguygene> I want this done right!
21:46 <dubStep> meaning?
21:46 <compguygene> i say nothing more than that!
21:46 <compguygene> but MANY things are going on behind the scenes
21:47 <dubStep> but from what i heard the agreement was that nobody presses charges and things pretty much go back to the way they were
21:47 <compguygene> let me put it to you another way
21:47 <compguygene> yes that is what has been said
21:47 <dubStep> see thats just beyond stupid to me.
21:48 <dubStep> cannot comprehend it at all
21:48 <compguygene> i understand
21:48 <compguygene> let me try another tack
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21:48 <compguygene> i like to play turn based strategy games like battle for wesnoth
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21:49 <compguygene> my particular style is to assemlble the right forces and romp right through the enemy at just the right moment, not one second before
21:50 <compguygene> and then i destroy my enemy as completly as is possible, leaving as litlle enemy forces around afterwards as possible
21:50 <compguygene> such a general style of warfare requires precise timing, and very quick manuvering at all times
21:51 <dubStep> so in essence this agreement is a diversion of some kind?
21:51 <compguygene> i never said that...draw your own conclusions
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21:51 <compguygene> but i consider this to be my personal war at this point
21:51 <dubStep> k
21:51 <compguygene> enemies are easily identifiable
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21:54 <compguygene> bye the way...the art of war, by sun tzu is a book that is a fav of mine...i highly recomend it
21:54 <compguygene> http://www.chinapage.com/sunzi-e.html
21:55 <compguygene> that is a good english translation
21:58 <compguygene> c u all l8r
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22:00 <sinewav> dubStep: ping
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22:03 <dubStep> sinewav: did u read any of that?
22:04 <sinewav> heh, as I was reading gene's "strategy", I was thinking "who does he think he is? Sun-tzu?".... and then he ends with that link... o m g
22:04 <dubStep> lool
22:05 <sinewav> anyway, it doesn't matter who hacked who. this should be taken all the way. period.
22:05 <dubStep> exactly.
22:07 <sinewav> man I hate regualr CTF. I just played to brush up in case I play in the next tournament. I got the high score. I hate getting the high score. It means everyone in there stinks.
22:07 <dubStep> rofl
22:07 <dubStep> ive been going a few times lately but i hate it
22:08 <dubStep> i cant seem to get into it the same way i used to
22:08 <sinewav> I got holed twice, which I didn't expect, not being a competition. But as soon as I looked for it, I was like "omg, you really think that's gonna work arilou?"
22:08 <sinewav> I need to teach those guys.
22:09 <dubStep> lol
22:09 <sinewav> ID should let me join for a month and get their CTF straight.
22:09 <dubStep> pointless
22:09 <dubStep> i tried
22:09 <dubStep> remember?
22:09 <sinewav> prolly
22:09 <dubStep> within a mont it was back to square 1, and i know killer doesnt really have the drive to teach them
22:09 <sinewav> well, Killer is admin now, and he rocks. Force is good too. they just need... uh... direction.
22:10 <sinewav> If I have time I should meet them in their Vent server and explain how things have changed in CTF. Especially, since I gave ~R~ my "CTF aide".
22:12 <dubStep> lemi know how it goes
22:12  * dubStep loves sweetcorn
22:12  * sinewav can't stop thinking about noodles. yum!
22:12 <dubStep> lol
22:13 <ct|kyle> dubStep: :( I can't eat sweetcorn
22:13 <dubStep> why?
22:13 <ct|kyle> my lips swell up
22:13 <dubStep> aw
22:13 <sinewav> I wish neal was my neighbor. I would be his best friend, which would be really creepy since I'm probably older than his dad.
22:13 <dubStep> lol
22:13 <ct|kyle> lol
22:13 <dubStep> hey sin and slai are best friends
22:14 <dubStep> slai is like 14 and sin is liek 26
22:14 <Vanhayes> thats a bit creepy
22:14 <dubStep> meh
22:14 <sinewav> "neal little buddy, how about cooking me up some eggplant parmesan?" I'd say...
22:14 <dubStep> haha
22:15 <sinewav> I'll take you to an R-rated movie.
22:15 <Vanhayes> ha
22:15 <dubStep> lol
22:15 <sinewav> neal should have a tron banquet/lan party. I'd drive up to canada for that.
22:16 <dubStep> lol hes just a kid
22:16 <dubStep> hayes should do it hes older
22:16 <sinewav> he can make d'œuvres in the shape of arma cycles
22:16 <dubStep> F4!
22:16 <Vanhayes> id have to drive 20 hours for those
22:16 <sinewav> I don't remember what F4 is. I changed all my instants on day 2
22:17 <dubStep> F4 = LOL!
22:17 <sinewav> hahaha
22:17 <sinewav> right...
22:17 <dubStep> its just me, orly and speed being stupid
22:18 <Vanhayes> #google work visa
22:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.16 seconds: Immigration, work visas and work permit services: <http://www.workpermit.com/>; US immigration: <http://www.workpermit.com/us/us.htm>; H1B Work Visa: <http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/visa_h1b.html>; H2B Work Visa: <http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/visa_h2b.html>; How to File for a Work Visa | eHow.com: <http://www.ehow.com/how_1630_file-work- (2 more messages)
22:19 <sinewav> oh!
22:27  * dubStep hates the left side of her head
22:27 <Vanhayes> that is strange
22:27 <Vanhayes> why?
22:27 <dubStep> cause its causing me pain
22:28 <sinewav> frontal sinusitis ftl
22:28 <dubStep> i cant take it anymore, i wana scream
22:28 <Vanhayes> sinusitis is a funny sounding name
22:28 <sinewav> :(  but, what about the pain killers?
22:29 <dubStep> i dont wana take them
22:29 <dubStep> ive take some but like.
22:29 <dubStep> idk
22:29 <Vanhayes> what kind of pills?
22:29 <dubStep> they dont even last very long
22:29 <dubStep> co-codamol
22:30 <dubStep> codeine phosphate and paracetamol
22:30 <sinewav> well, let's just hope you don't get brain-fungus.
22:30 <dubStep> brain fungus?
22:30 <Vanhayes> fungus in the brain
22:30 <dubStep> its not like im not taking the anti-biotics
22:31 <Vanhayes> you could always go with the ol' fashion pain killer
22:31 <K-Yo> DRAMA
22:31 <K-Yo> oh
22:31 <K-Yo> not now, sorry :(
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22:31 <dubStep> which is?
22:32 <Vanhayes> booze
22:32 <dubStep> no
22:32 <dubStep> cancels out the affect of the amoxycillin if i drink
22:32 <Vanhayes> thats no fun
22:33 <sinewav> oh and don't go in the sun either.
22:33 <dubStep> why
22:33 <Vanhayes> the pills make you a vampire too?
22:34 <sinewav> messes up the amoxycillin, and you get sunburn really fast. don't know why
22:34 <sinewav> should be on the bottle.
22:34 <dubStep> meh i hope its not sunny on monday then
22:34 <dubStep> i have somewhere to go
22:39 <Vanhayes> hmm I need to go get drunk
22:39 <Vanhayes> bbwisu
22:39 <dubStep> bbwisu?
22:39 <Vanhayes> be back when i sober up
22:39 <dubStep> ah k
22:39 <dubStep> bb
22:39 <Vanhayes> #night
22:39 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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23:03 <epsy> bbl in one week
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23:20 <akira_arma> http://gizmodo.com/5317180/amazon-remotely-deletes-legitimately-purchased-books-from-thousands-of-kindles
23:20 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r677 add extra START_CHALLENGE/END_CHALLENGE message to ladderlog...
23:22 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r677 add extra START_CHALLENGE/END_CHALLENGE message to ladderlog...
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23:59 <sunny> hellooooooooooooooooo people

Log from 2009-07-19:
--- Day changed Sun Jul 19 2009
00:01 <madmax> o/
00:02 <sunny> up for fortress?
00:03 <madmax> not right now
00:03 <madmax> any full server even?
00:03 <sunny> i try xD
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00:06 <madmax> #as
00:06 <armabot> madmax: This data is 23 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag Advanced!= (12/10), PLUS + ¦Fortress¦ (11/16), |FA| Black Tar! (10/16), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), -=Prutopolis=- -=Capture The Flag=- (8/10), FUCK OFF srsly (8/14), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), WILDCAT (7/8), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (6/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (6/32), -=}ID< -=}Immortal (1 more message)
00:07 <madmax> #sd fort
00:07 <armabot> madmax: PLUS + ¦Fortress¦: Players (11/16): .W33D, eNVy, GT|InWZenTH|GT, Havana, nara, noob13, Player 1, Pr³, sine.wav, ULTRA, Wildcat
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00:42 <dubStep> .si plus
00:42 <tronner> dubStep: PLUS + ¦Fortress¦: Players (0/16):
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00:44 <sunny> max now the server is full
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01:23 <nubStep> K-Yo: better, but still you don't stay :'(
01:23 <K-Yo> nubStep, I can't
01:23 <K-Yo> the world is not infinite
01:23 <K-Yo> xD
01:24 <nubStep> lol
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02:23 <noob13> #tea
02:23 <armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:23 <noob13> #sd fort
02:23 <armabot> noob13: -=}ID< Clan Presents<-=}Fortress DoJo<: Players (0/16):
02:24 <noob13> #servers
02:24 <armabot> noob13: This data is 37 seconds old; The Server Pharm EU: XZL High Rubber Clone (8/16), |FA| Black Tar! (8/16), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (8/8), WILDCAT (6/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag Advanced!= (5/12), Seafood Buffet (5/6), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (4/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (4/6), Wild West  =Sumo= (3/16), Wild West  =Capture The (1 more message)
02:24 <noob13> #more
02:24 <armabot> noob13: Flag= (2/12), Test server please join! (2/16), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (1/8), The YELLOW Submarine (1/12)
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04:37 <Lucifer> #ping
04:37 <armabot> pong
04:38 <ct|kyle> oi Lucifer
04:41 <Lucifer> hey kyle
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04:54 <nubStep> ct|kyle: mayhem has been like this all day
04:54 <nubStep> same map
04:54 <ct|kyle> nubStep: try again
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05:20  * Luke-Jr throws an opened can of paint at noob13
05:23 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: is it full or empty
05:23 <Luke-Jr> full
05:23 <Luke-Jr> well
05:23 <Luke-Jr> empty now
05:23 <Luke-Jr> lol
05:23 <ct|kyle> heh
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11:24 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r678 sort (and fix) start challenge/match/set messages to ladderl...
11:25 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r678 sort (and fix) start challenge/match/set messages to ladderl...
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13:27 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1142 After dying in in-cam mode, switch to the players initial ca...
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13:58 <dubStep> .sl
13:58 <tronner> dubStep: This data is 4 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (5/32), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (4/12), HAPPYTEC Fortress Test (3/16), WILDCAT (3/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem (3/8), |FA|rt Show! (1/16), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (1/8), tronners->racing (1/11), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY High Speed) <<< (1/12)
14:04 <dubStep> anybody know the command to allow same names in a server?
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14:29 <dubStep> nvm
14:30 <madmax> #as
14:30 <armabot> madmax: This data is 28 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (13/32), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/12), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (4/9), WILDCAT (4/8), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (3/5), Hiead's Arena | DogFight (3/8), |FA| Devils Rings! (1/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem (1/8)
14:31 <madmax> #sd fort
14:31 <armabot> madmax: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress: Players (13/32): -=VcL.hiro, -||BS~t|DrHouse, .dubStep, .pRu|Hell-lo, Angelo, botzi, chrisd, CTxTadd, CT~Voodoo, Goodkoen, MµtH.Bot (htym@ct), Player 1, ~|DS|~|Alien|~ (alien@ct)
14:36 <dubStep> .si open sumo
14:36 <tronner> dubStep: timed out
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15:31 <Vanhayes> urgh
15:31 <Vanhayes> .asd
15:31 <Vanhayes> .sa
15:31 <Vanhayes> .as
15:31 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 61 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (11/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/12), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (5/9), WILDCAT (5/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (4/14), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (2/16), -=Prutopolis=- -=Capture The Flag=- (2/10), SPACEZONE III (2/15), |FA| Devils Rings! (1/16), (1 more message)
15:45 <dubStep> Vanhayes:
15:45 <Vanhayes> dubStep,
15:45 <dubStep> fort?
15:45 <Vanhayes> maybe in a bit
15:45 <dubStep> k
15:45 <Vanhayes> need to finish coffee
15:46 <dubStep> haha
15:46 <dubStep> hangover?
15:47 <K-Yo> dubStep, I don't stay =)
15:47 <dubStep> asshole :(
15:47 <dubStep> lol
15:47 <K-Yo> xD
15:48 <K-Yo> laater dudes
15:48 <dubStep> bb
15:52 <Vanhayes> http://www.dontevenreply.com/index.php   <-- this site is funny
15:59 <dubStep> .later tell K-Yo dogfight is broken
15:59 <tronner> dubStep: The operation succeeded.
16:00 <dubStep> .later tell K-Yo nvm :>
16:00 <tronner> dubStep: The operation succeeded.
16:06 <K-Yo> h
16:07 <dubStep> Vanhayes: come to ctwdf!!!!
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17:06 <dubStep> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdzqTGmEcZE&feature=channel
17:06 <dubStep> monty python ftw!
17:43 <dubStep> .sl
17:43 <tronner> dubStep: This data is 8 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (12/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega TeamSumo (10/32), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), SPACEZONE II S (6/15), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (4/12), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), -=Prutopolis=- -=Sumo=- (3/32), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (2/8), Wall Tiger Land (2/16), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (2/9), Crazy Tronners (1 more message)
17:43 <dubStep> .more
17:43 <tronner> dubStep: Wild Fortress. (2/14), Wild West  =Sumo= (1/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (1/5), Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem (1/8)
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19:05 <noob13> .q
19:06 <noob13> .tea
19:06 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:06 <noob13> .sd fort
19:06 <tronner> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (16/32): -||BS|ChrisGW (ChrisGW@forums), -||BS|Hype, .x] FoFo, chrisd, ConcreteFloor, feow, Goodkoen, NayP, sunnygirl, {CY} Slythus, ~*Delta*~, ~*PsYkO*~, ~|DS|~ mescalin, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~Novocaine (Novocaine@forums), ~|DS|~zion
19:06 <noob13> why did people abandon cafe?
19:06 <noob13> i for one like hole scores :P
19:07 <noob13> i rely on them in fact... 8|
19:07 <noob13> .bye
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19:27 <Vanhayes> .si mega
19:27 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (13/32): -||BS|ChrisGW (ChrisGW@forums), .×].sabian, .x] FoFo, chrisd, feow, Goodkoen, MµtH.Bot, sunnygirl, Super_Noob, ~|DS|~ mescalin, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~Novocaine (Novocaine@forums), ~|DS|~zion
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20:42 <dubStep> .sl
20:42 <tronner> dubStep: This data is 31 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (19/32), |FA| Black Tar! (13/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), -=}ID< Clan Presents<-=}Flower Power< (7/12), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (6/9), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (5/16), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (100mbit) (5/10), The YELLOW Submarine (4/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (3/10), [] (1 more message)
20:43 <dubStep> .more
20:43 <tronner> dubStep: Cheers! [] The friendly server. (3/12), WILDCAT (2/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (2/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (1/16), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (1/8), -=Arrow Fortress Training=- (1/32), SPACEZONE II S (1/15), Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem (1/8)
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21:00  * Luke-Jr beats ct|kyle for merging -sty+ct from mainline
21:09 <Luke-Jr> #debian
21:09  * Luke-Jr smacks armabot
21:09 <nbkghostly> lol
21:12 <Vanhayes> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19473&start=225
21:12 <Vanhayes> I dont get cosmic dolphins cartoon
21:14 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: BUG REPORT: sty+ct won't build without Armathentication anymore
21:14 <dubStep> yea i really dont get it either
21:14 <ct|kyle> then mainlien probaboly does not either
21:14 <dubStep> was my
21:15 <dubStep> idk comic i spose, funny?
21:15 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: is se_accessLevelVoteChallenge in mainline?
21:15 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: nope, that voodoo just added
21:15 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: that's what is breaking it
21:18 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: ok I'll let him know
21:19 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: but why is merging with trunk such a problem
21:19 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: sty+ct isn't based on 0.2.8 mainline
21:19 <Luke-Jr> it's based on 0.2.8-sty
21:19 <Luke-Jr> therefore, you should be merging with 0.2.8-sty
21:19 <Luke-Jr> :þ
21:19 <ct|kyle> but -sty never gets merged that often anymore
21:20 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: so branch -sty and merge to that
21:20 <Luke-Jr> then merge it into sty+ct
21:20 <dlh> ct|kyle: bzr merge lp:~dlh/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
21:20 <Luke-Jr> or ask one of us to merge sty
21:20 <dlh> I merged it with sty yesterday
21:20 <dlh> sty is up-to-date
21:20 <ct|kyle> ah
21:20 <dubStep> Vanhayes: I just mad it page 17 lol
21:20 <dlh> I made it so it builds without auth too
21:20 <dubStep> made*
21:21 <Luke-Jr> dlh: sty had auth issues?
21:21 <Vanhayes> heh nice, only 2 more to go
21:21 <dlh> Just a misplaced #ifdef AUTH ... #endif or whatever that define is
21:22 <Luke-Jr> any idea where to get the "standard" sty configs?
21:22 <dlh> Luke-Jr: sty didn't have the compile error, only ct+sty did
21:22 <dlh> or sty+ct...
21:22 <Luke-Jr> dlh: ct+sty still does
21:23  * Luke-Jr ponders why sty+ct lacks the sty example configs
21:23 <dlh> lp:~dlh/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct fixed the problem
21:23 <Luke-Jr> o i c
21:24 <Luke-Jr> so where to find "standard" configs for CTF, CTFS, sumo and DF?
21:24 <Luke-Jr> examples/cvs_test/sumo_complete.cfg <-- sumo?
21:30 <Luke-Jr> …
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21:36 <nsh22> ]y help detective
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22:05  * Luke-Jr wonders if we should split server maps from client maps O.o;
22:07 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: I wonder if you should catogorize maps by repository
22:10 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: ⁇?
22:10 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: as far as I'm concerned, there is only one repository
22:10 <Luke-Jr> the game, too
22:11 <Luke-Jr> so what are "DF settings" anyhow?
22:12 <Luke-Jr> isn't DF just a way of playing?
22:12 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: pretty much so
22:12 <nsh22> yes
22:13 <nsh22> Luke-Jr: do u even PLAY anymore?
22:13 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: do you really think I'd want to upload a lot of maps on the main resource repository?
22:14 <Luke-Jr> nsh22: well I've been asked for DF settings... :/
22:14 <ct|kyle> with the current system
22:14 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: sure, why not? :þ
22:14 <nsh22> Luke-Jr: who would ask YOU for df settings, u dont even play :P
22:14 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: so dam slow
22:14 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: so improve it
22:15 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: it's not like uploading is limited to one method
22:15  * Luke-Jr wonders if it would be possible to make a fake SFTP server that accepted uploads and validated them
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22:18 <Zurd> ohh hot damn, this is my jam!
22:19 <Zurd> ]
22:21 <Luke-Jr> fail
22:23 <Zurd> xD
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22:25 <nsh22> zurdub nub
22:25 <nsh22> dubStep!!!
22:25 <Luke-Jr> nsh22: you're more n00b than Zurd, fail!
22:26 <nsh22> stfu Luke-Jr xD
22:26 <Luke-Jr> so are there even "normal" settings used for DF, or is it just a title on the defaults?
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22:27 <nsh22> its a certain kind of playing, which is supported by the settings
22:27 <Luke-Jr> what settings?
22:28 <nsh22> get zurd to explain it, im a df noob
22:29 <nsh22> Zurd: Luke rquires assistane for once :P
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22:56 <madmax> #as
22:56 <armabot> madmax: This data is 46 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (11/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (10/32), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (8/16), CLAN WAR: mW vs FA (8/16), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), Wild West delta = magic,rudy,number,lagu,arilou,titan,teen,ilikefeet (6/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), -=Arrow Fortress Training=- (5/32), (2 more messages)
22:56 <madmax> #sd fort
22:56 <armabot> madmax: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress: Players (12/32): -||BS|kbblak, .dubStep (dubStep@ct), .x] FoFo (.x]_fofo@L_OP), .x] JJBean (Joe@forums), .×] $ubzero (.x]_$ubzero@L_OP), .×] Liza (Liza@xats.ath.cx), sunnygirl, Uran, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~Judders (Judders@forums), ~|DS|~noname, ~|DS|~zion
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23:02 <Lucifer> Luke-Jr: my understanding is that dogfight is last man standing with no sealing
23:02 <Lucifer> settings don't matter, but it seems like low rubber would be preferred to prevent the sealing, but then that prevents accelerating, too
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23:06 <ct|kyle> but they have it with like 15 rubber
23:06 <ct|kyle> Luke-Jr: see I got voodoo to fix the bug :)
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23:11 <Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: XD
23:26 <Vanhayes> people have weird definitions of DFing
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23:30 <madmax> #sd nexus
23:30 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
23:30 <madmax> anyone for a game of that?
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23:32 <madmax> #sd mega
23:32 <armabot> madmax: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress: Players (8/32): .dubStep (dubStep@ct), F4!, madmax, Radian +, Uran, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~Novocaine (Novocaine@forums), ~|DS|~zion
23:49 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r679 fix compiling with authentication ...
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00:37 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: did you get him to build and run a server with -DLUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS ?
00:38 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: nope
00:38 <ct|kyle> brb
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01:48 <Vanhayes> Lucifer, is that an actual setting?
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02:16 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: compile-time option
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09:32 <Lucifer> z-man z-man (hi there!) z-man (hi there!)
09:32  * Lucifer sings to z-man
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09:35 <Lucifer> Manta, holy crap!
09:35 <Lucifer> Manta never comes here!
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09:36 <compguiygene> we have a few questions about setting up a master server
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09:37 <Manta> hello, it's a full moon tonight
09:37 <@Lucifer> is that why I'm so hairy?
09:38 <Manta> I was reading, and realized I have no idea how the master servers work
09:39 <@Lucifer> specific questions, manta......  ;)
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09:39 <Manta> do servers just send to one master server and they synchronize themselves, or is each one stand alone
09:39 <compguygene> i appreciate you guys kicking what appeared to be a faker
09:39 <compguygene> lol
09:39 <@Lucifer> :)
09:40 <@Lucifer> Manta: the servers login and report to each hamster server they know about
09:40 <@Lucifer> by default, they know about the 4 we provide
09:40 <@Lucifer> there's a setting to tell them about others, but I don't recall what it is
09:40 <@Lucifer> but that's why they take so long to start (the game servers), because they're reporting to 4 master servers
09:41 <Manta> ok
09:41 <@Lucifer> the master servers synchronize with each other after that
09:41 <@Lucifer> so, say your game server tries to tell all four, but the third one gets no response due to regular internet weather,
09:41 <Manta> is there any compression, of say server names when each server is being pinged by the clients?
09:41 <@Lucifer> it will hear about it from one of the others
09:42 <@Lucifer> none that I'm aware of, the clients ping on their own, completely separate from the master server
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09:43 <Manta> ah, good. I see in the log that once in a while I don't connect to one or more so glad to know, it doesn't matter
09:43 <Zurd1> OI!
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09:43  * Lucifer is in a weird mood, weirder than usual, anyway
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09:44 <Zurd1> that was rude :(
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09:45 <@Lucifer> maybe I shoudl deop
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09:45 <Lucifer> there, that's better
09:45 <Zurd1> lol
09:45 <Lucifer> now I wont' be tempted to randomly kick people for some stupid made-up reasons
09:45 <Manta> I compiled a server with the, enable-master flag but did not notice any deference
09:46 <Lucifer> that just builds a master server
09:46 <Lucifer> you shouldn't notice any difference
09:46 <Lucifer> but you probably have a binary laying around that is a master server
09:46 <Lucifer> if you start that up, you could RULE THE WORLD!!!!
09:46  * Lucifer considers kicking Manta for trying to rule the world, however inadvertent his attempt might be
09:46 <Manta> Mcp over all!!!
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09:47 <Lucifer> haha
09:47 <Lucifer> bah, I've had too much to drink to provide serious support
09:47 <Lucifer> I have answered your question, just a little on the whacky side
09:48 <Subliminal> lucy im home <3
09:48 <Lucifer> I also have a spider that keeps coming down from the ceiling, but doesn't appear to be trying to go up to the ceiling
09:48 <Lucifer> leading me to believe there's 3000 spiders coming down from the ceiling
09:48 <Lucifer> heya Subliminal (hi there!)
09:48 <Lucifer> youv'e been gone for awhile, haven't you?
09:48 <Manta> ah, if I just read down (3) lines I would have found that file :p
09:48 <Lucifer> or have I?  I always forget which....
09:49 <Subliminal> not really lol, prolly you
09:49 <Lucifer> prolly me
09:49 <Lucifer> I haven't played since I upgraded to Intrepid, which, for some reason or other, doesn't recognize my ungodly old nvidia graphics card
09:49 <Subliminal> ce mai faceti
09:50 <Lucifer> that's french for "I like dick", right?
09:50 <Subliminal> would you be surprised?
09:50 <Lucifer> from  you?  no....
09:50 <Manta> mandrivea is no longer in primetime at your house lucie?
09:50 <Subliminal> but you happened to have missed the entire slipping it into a blender thing
09:51 <Lucifer> YOU PUT MY DICK IN A BLENDER?!?!?!?
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09:51 <Zurd1> lol!!
09:51 <Zurd1> LMAO
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09:51 <compguygene> lmao
09:51 <Subliminal> ^^
09:51 <Lucifer> Manta: no, no more Mandriva
09:51 <Lucifer> I switched to Ubuntu quite some time ago, actually
09:51 <Lucifer> before my divorce
09:51 <Subliminal> so how you been luci
09:51 <Lucifer> Subliminal: well, I got divorced, so I'm doing good
09:52 <Subliminal> i just heard strange things over vent about you just a second ago luci
09:52 <Subliminal> dest is with manta
09:52 <Subliminal> and read man drive
09:52 <Subliminal> thinking sex drive
09:52 <Subliminal> and your response?
09:52 <Lucifer> I already knew destiny was with manta
09:53 <Lucifer> but mandrive = mandriva = obscure and mostly useless linux distribution
09:53 <Lucifer> I'm on ubuntu with my own custom desktop environment now
09:53 <Subliminal> o gawd i hear either the squeels and giggles of destiny playing through a tuba or mantas havign a stroke
09:53 <Lucifer> it has a systray that I wrote, and a dock that I didn't write
09:53 <Lucifer> probably mantas got three fingers into destiny
09:53 <Lucifer> er
09:53 <Lucifer> did I actually type that?
09:53  * Lucifer has had more than a bottle of wine tonight
09:53 <Subliminal> well how else are you supposed to pull out a tooth
09:53 <Subliminal> ^^
09:54 <Zurd1> haha
09:54 <Lucifer> I could use my fist, then it'd fall out
09:54 <Manta> hey you have to drown the sorrow some how
09:54 <Lucifer> sorrow's long over, this bottle is to help me get to sleep at a reasonable hour
09:54 <Subliminal> yes but your fist is quite tightly placed in between your rectum
09:54 <Lucifer> is not!
09:54  * Lucifer fisted some chick night before last
09:54 <Lucifer> but couldn't get up to the knuckles before she fell down
09:54 <Subliminal> fisting a chicken to get eggs?
09:55 <Subliminal> you freak!
09:55 <Manta> so building on plain X then?
09:55 <Lucifer> no, you're the freak!
09:55 <Subliminal> no no im FreQ
09:55 <Subliminal> i kill people with love and daggers
09:55 <Lucifer> Manta: more or less, I've started my own desktop environment that's totally nonfunctional, unless you're me, in which case you know every line of code that's gone into it
09:55 <Lucifer> OpenBox is the window manager, cairo is the dock, and I wrote my own systray
09:56 <Subliminal> meaning he took a typical distro, and emulated it on his seiko watch
09:56 <compguygene> one would have to ask why luci
09:56 <Lucifer> very soon I'll be alpha geek everywhere except in #qt, #kde, and #gnome
09:56 <Lucifer> compguygene: if you knew my ex-wife, you wouldn't even ask
09:56 <Subliminal> lmao
09:57 <Manta> My box it to overpowered for anything less than kde
09:57 <compguygene> i think i get the idea
09:57  * compguygene just fell off his chair laughing
09:57  * Zurd1 heard him
09:57 <Lucifer> Manta: actually, I started it becuase KDE wants more power than my computer can give
09:57 <Subliminal> that was a bad joker imitation CodeBlock
09:57 <Subliminal> *compgene
09:57 <Subliminal> o o o dest's vader impersonation
09:57 <Lucifer> so, why does anybody think Code Hunter is smart enough to hack ID forums, anyway?
09:58 <Lucifer> he's like the world's ultimate idiot....
09:58 <Subliminal> script kiddy imho
09:58  * compguygene agrees
09:58 <Subliminal> prolly ripped code from milworm
09:58 <Lucifer> you guys are giving him more credit than he deserves
09:58 <compguygene> there is the possibility that he was given an admin password
09:58 <Lucifer> you think he really could download something, read the README, and make it work?
09:58 <compguygene> no
09:58 <Subliminal> luci even you barely get to rtfm
09:58 <Manta> do you notice a difference from the binaries from debian vs ubuntu, debian has always seemed much faster
09:59 <Lucifer> I think it's more likely that someone managed to get him to download a worm
09:59 <Lucifer> Manta: no, because Ubuntu and debian share so many repositories.....
09:59 <Lucifer> Debian compiles for 386, and ubuntu compiles for 586
09:59 <Lucifer> so logically, ubuntu should be faster
09:59 <Manta> hmm
10:00 <Subliminal> lucifer pretend compguygene was god and Manta was buddha, what would you say to them right now in your bareassed drunken state
10:00 <Lucifer> FUCK YOU@
10:00 <Subliminal> lmao
10:00 <Manta> maybe it's the ammout of stuff loaded by default
10:00 <Lucifer> you do know, of course, that buddha isn't worshipped as a god except by asshats, right?
10:00 <Lucifer> Manta: probably.  Ubuntu tries to be the distribution for people who just finished therapy for MS Windows
10:01 <Lucifer> and Debian is the holier-than-thou-you-should-love-free-software version of that
10:01 <Manta> and mandrake users it seems
10:01 <Lucifer> I used to be a mandrake user
10:01 <Lucifer> I forget why I switched, though
10:01 <Lucifer> Mandrake did something horrible, that's all I remember
10:01 <Lucifer> maybe I did it because my ex-wife is a bitch
10:02 <Subliminal> took your food, clothes, house, but left you trapped in a porta potty with your ex wife
10:02 <Subliminal> ?
10:02 <compguygene> well..i have setup a few "grandma computers" with ubuntu....it does work well with easy setup
10:02 <Manta> she said something nice about it once?
10:02 <Lucifer> Manta: don't get divorced, you don't want to feel about destiny the way I feel about my ex-wife
10:02 <Lucifer> actually, my ex didn't notice when I switched from Mandriva to Ubuntu
10:02 <Subliminal> luci we divorced but you still love me :D <3
10:03 <Lucifer> she was too busy accusing me of wanting to sleep with my coworkers
10:03  * compguygene and his wife have an agreement, 'till death do us part...induced death if necesary
10:03  * Subliminal can arrange that
10:03 <Lucifer> Faraday said nothing about dying!
10:03  * compguygene is lucky to be in a good 15 year long marriage
10:04  * Lucifer made it 12 years, and then left the bitch high and dry
10:04 <Subliminal> with a bottle of vodka?
10:04 <Lucifer> actualy, I have to admit, the only reason I'm bitter about it today is because I suspect she's already got her new boyfriend
10:04 <Lucifer> and I don't care about that.....
10:04 <Lucifer> except.....
10:04 <Lucifer> the kids are involved already
10:04 <compguygene> ouch....that hurts
10:04 <Subliminal> king midas >>
10:05 <Lucifer> so if I'm right, she's not just putting her own heart out there to be broken, she's also put my kids' hearts out there to be broken
10:05 <Lucifer> technically, I can only profit by this
10:05 <Lucifer> but if "profit" means "My kids get their hearts broken", I want none of it
10:05 <Subliminal> hire a hit man, get rid of her and spare the kids knowledge of it
10:05  * compguygene should talk to Guido...he's been looking for work lately
10:06 <Lucifer> no, she needs full freedom to bring her next relationship down in flames
10:06 <Subliminal> "mummy's just working very late hours 6 ft under" "doing what?" "shes a very skilled gardener, all plants grow better around her"
10:06 <Lucifer> because the likelihood that she'll find a sucker as big as me is slim
10:06 <Lucifer> I just don't want to see my kids go through it, but I have no choice in the matter
10:06 <compguygene> well, I know ur close w/ur kids
10:06 <Lucifer> all I can do is tell my kids I love them and do my best to take care of them
10:07 <Subliminal> "mummy's just working very late hours 6 ft under" "doing what?" "shes a very skilled gardener, all plants grow better around her"
10:07 <Lucifer> Subliminal: you already said that, dickhead
10:07 <Subliminal> no dick mounted on my head
10:07 <Subliminal> its wedged deeply in your asshat
10:07 <Subliminal> ^^
10:07 <Lucifer> but nevertheless, there's a dick protruding from  your head
10:07 <Lucifer> it's mine
10:07 <Lucifer> and it's stuck in your mouth
10:07 <Subliminal> orly
10:07 <Lucifer> and you're gagging, and I"m wishing you'd stop
10:08 <Subliminal> and how would you explain that to the judge
10:08 <Subliminal> what if i said i was jailbait
10:08 <Lucifer> "Your honor, I put my dick in his mouth, and he loved it"
10:08 <Subliminal> *her tyvm
10:08 <Subliminal> kurva
10:08 <compguygene> seriously, can i ask one more question about the master servers lucifer
10:08 <Lucifer> oh, well, in that case, WHY IS MY DICK IN YOUR MOUTH?
10:08 <Lucifer> compguygene: sure, but I can't promise a serious answer
10:08 <compguygene> ok
10:09 <Subliminal> well you must be really drunk then luci, mouth doesnt equal blender
10:09 <Subliminal> youre the one who put it there
10:09 <Lucifer> Subliminal: well, you had it open, what else was I supposed to do?
10:10 <Subliminal> you voluntarily placed it in, slipped it deeper and deeper then felt the "teeth" of the razors
10:10 <compguygene> from what you said...if you wanted to add say a master server on the west coast of the usa to better serve asia, YOu guys would have to flip a switch on the main ones for it to be recognised?
10:10 <Lucifer> compguygene: yeah, except we wouldn't "flip a switch", we'd have to somewhat reconfigure the main ones
10:10 <compguygene> thank you....just curious
10:10 <Lucifer> but why would we put a master server on the west coast to better server asia?  Wouldn't we put one in asia to better serve asia?
10:11 <Subliminal> asians arent allowed to play, they have to work 24/7]
10:11 <compguygene> yes...just picking an example out of my overtired brain
10:11  * Lucifer misses Yaza sometimes
10:12  * Lucifer suddenly gets the idea that yaza is still here, just changed his name
10:12  * Subliminal points at top of the list
10:12 <Manta> I would like to compress the world in favor of reducing ping
10:12 <compguygene> this is the most fun i have had on irc in a few years
10:12 <Lucifer> armabot?  I know yaza isn't armabot
10:12  * Subliminal points to the name below
10:12 <compguygene> i do really need to go
10:12 <Lucifer> Manta: but compression has the serious risk of raising ping
10:12 <compguygene> catch you all later
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10:13 <Lucifer> see, besides the packet size, you have to consider packet processing time, and compression adds to that
10:13 <Lucifer> on both sides
10:13 <Subliminal> luci wouldnt that only be based on the computer the client runs from?
10:13 <Lucifer> you have to compress it on one side, and decompress it on the other
10:13 <Lucifer> Subliminal: it's based on whichever comptuers have to deal with the compression
10:13 <Lucifer> but a ping packet can't be compressed
10:13 <Lucifer> not without making it bigger, anyway
10:14 <Manta> lol true
10:14 <Lucifer> since we switched to google's protocol buffers, we have to option to compress packets, and we'll experiment with it in 0.3.x
10:14 <Manta> my days of 56k, where anything would have helped
10:14 <Lucifer> compression probably wouldn't have helped
10:15 <Lucifer> we had this discussion back when you were still stuck on 56k, because you were stuck on 56k
10:15 <Lucifer> and the consensus was the compression wouldn't have helped
10:15 <Lucifer> what armagetron really needs is throughput
10:15 <Lucifer> compressing individual packets doesn't help because they're already chopped to a pretty small size
10:15 <Manta> hmm aright
10:15 <Lucifer> holding them and compressing them might reduce the total size sent, sure, but then there's the matter of timeliness
10:16 <Manta> that would make sense
10:16 <Lucifer> yeah :)
10:16 <Subliminal> well what about managing them how unreal does in a steady stream
10:16 <Lucifer> I raised the issue awhile back because you were still stuck on dialup
10:16 <Lucifer> it was about that time that I realized a high ping was an advantage ingame anyway :)
10:16 <Lucifer> Subliminal: we're already in a steady stream
10:16 <Lucifer> sync packets get sent out at regular intervals
10:17 <Lucifer> you get diff packets in between those intervals
10:17 <Manta> I was the secrite weapon in euro servers?
10:17 <Lucifer> if one or two fail to get through, that's when you get the weird results on there
10:17 <Lucifer> Manta: yes :)
10:17 <Subliminal> the different packets come in the same order all the time?
10:17 <Lucifer> no, they don't always come in the same order, but the network layer deals with it
10:17 <Subliminal> based on headers
10:17 <Lucifer> UDP = packets delivered as they arrive
10:17 <Lucifer> TCP = packets are reordered to be int he same order on arrival as when sent
10:19 <Lucifer> in fact, I believe (but am not sure) that the network protocol currently sends all changes since the last sync, so that if you lose one packet, you're not tanked
10:19 <Lucifer> the next packet contains the missing information
10:19 <Lucifer> with all that said, I'm going to go make some tea
10:19 <Lucifer> when that's done, I'm going to drink some
10:19 <Lucifer> then I'm going to bed
10:19 <Lucifer> I'm not likely to be back here between now and bedtime
10:19 <Lucifer> Manta: it's good seeing you, maybe sometime I'll have 3d drivers and I can see you ingame
10:20 <Lucifer> we can kick some ass again, just like old times
10:20 <Lucifer> ot get pwned, which would also be just like old times
10:20 <Manta> interesting bed time... manta waves at the sun
10:20 <Manta> night luci, hope things work out for you
10:21 <Subliminal> who handled the main networking code?
10:21 <Subliminal> night luci, if you drink blood make sure its not coagulated
10:24 <guru3> back from holiday
10:24 <guru3> ish
10:29 <Zurd1> guru3: you did http://guru3.com
10:29 <Zurd1> ?
10:29 <guru3> nope
10:29 <guru3> i had the domain at one point but lost it
10:29 <Zurd1> bummer
10:29 <guru3> i have the much more stately guru3.net
10:30 <Zurd1> lol i remember looking at that page looooong time ago..
10:30 <Zurd1> still nothing =\
10:31 <guru3> sadly i don't have infinite time and patience for doing web development
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10:31 <Zurd1> dernit
10:31 <guru3> i can really make some awesome shit when i do have the time and patience
10:32 <guru3> that's how i did the antenna :)
10:32 <guru3> kudos if you can figure out what i'm talking about
10:32 <Zurd1> hah
10:33 <Zurd1> drawing blanks, but figured i'd laugh untill it came to me
10:33 <guru3> meh, it's a bit obscure unless you follow a very specific segment of the internet
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13:27 <z-man-work> OOh, giant squid invasion in California.
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15:14 <nbkghostly> any ideas where I can find a pre made settings_custom for  DF?
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16:30 <z-man-work> #m nbkghostly you don't find premade DF settings because there's no consensus about what DF is.
16:30 <armabot> z-man-work: The operation succeeded.
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17:53 <Vanhayes> .as
17:53 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 3 seconds old; |FA| Black Tar! (14/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/12), Ladle 23 (Z-Man's Server) (9/24), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Sumo (US) [Ã. (8/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega TeamSumo (7/32), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (4/9), WILDCAT (3/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag Advanced!= (2/12), ~~M0$t Wànt3d~~ (2/14), SPACEZONE II S (1/15), >>> (1 more message)
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18:36 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r679 fix compiling without authentication ...
18:37 <Vanhayes> #m madmax I guess you won the bet
18:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
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16:28 <nsh22> Vanhayes_: guess what?
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18:09 <dubStep> .sl
18:09 <tronner> dubStep: This data is 13 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega TeamSumo (12/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), WILDCAT (6/8), Strawberry Fields (6/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (4/32), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), ~=ThUnDerD0me!=~ Zenth and OKO Clan War Server (3/8), Soy Feo (1 more message)
18:09 <dubStep> .si mega team
18:09 <tronner> dubStep: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega TeamSumo: Players (12/32): -»|Xyrøn, -||BST|w33y;D, .||Hendo, »»»»$¡th¥, blender, CDC!AL3Xo1!BPT, gravy (user@tronner.com), jimmyflöwerl#v, Patorik, womble, Yazou, ~|DS|~ Judders (Judders@forums)
18:09 <dubStep> .si mega fort
18:09 <tronner> dubStep: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (4/32): ¬¦¦BS¦Thero, Fluffles (Fluffles@forums), Mkay-1, ~|DS|~G5
18:09 <dubStep> .more
18:09 <tronner> dubStep: (3/16), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (2/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (2/16), Titanoboa's Server (2/12), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (2/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (2/8), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (1/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (1/12), ~~M0$t Wànt3d~~ (1/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (1/12)
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19:10 <P4> .seen joda*
19:10 <tronner> P4: joda* could be joda_bot (1 week, 6 days, 4 hours, 19 minutes, and 58 seconds ago) or joda_bot1 (17 weeks, 0 days, 6 hours, 11 minutes, and 14 seconds ago)
19:11 <P4> cheers from lithuania (Vilnius) :)
19:11 <P4> .w Vilnius
19:11 <tronner> P4: The current temperature in Vilnius, Lithuania is 22.0°C (7:50 PM EEST on July 23, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
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19:53 <Vanhayes_> .as
19:54 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 33 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (24/32), [iD] Mario (17/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (7/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (6/12), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (5/20), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega TeamSumo (5/32), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), (1 more message)
19:54 <Vanhayes_> .si mega
19:54 <tronner> Vanhayes_: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (24/32): -.NAPIA_ZenTH.-, .×] PlayerNuby, .dubStep (dubStep@ct), .||Hendo, <<~luAp~>>, ¬¦¦BS¦Thero, blender, ctt|pike, CT_emphasis, Deneb, Fluffles (Fluffles@forums), Fomalhaut, hungover, Longball|mbc, maño (hand@ct), MEOWMIX, Mkay-1, noob13, play, Sl33py, spazfingers, Sunbeam, sunnygirl, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
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19:59 <G5> P4: You are in Vilnius?
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20:42 <sunny__> blub
20:48 <Luke-Jr> no u
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21:00 <madmax> .as
21:00 <tronner> madmax: This data is 2 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (14/32), Unnamed Server (10/16), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (9/20), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (7/8), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats CTF w/ FortFzx (US) [Ã. (7/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem (6/8), - | D u r k a  D u (2 more messages)
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22:31 <Tesseracter> hi, how do i make a game with more than 16 players?
22:31 <Tesseracter> max_clients gets reset.
22:32 <Tesseracter> help?!
22:32 <Tesseracter> ive got 50 kids who want to play....
22:32 <Tesseracter> on a lan game
22:34 <ct|kyle> you need to compile with CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=50
22:38 <PinkTomato> Tesseracter, ( ct|kyle ) if time is an issue I think you can get 32 with the latest beta running as under dedicated mode only.
22:39 <Tesseracter> no other way, seriously?
22:39 <ct|kyle> 32 with a dedicated beta server
22:39 <ct|kyle> if you get beta3 or 4 can't remember latest one
22:39 <Tesseracter> thanks...i didnt know about the compile flag... so mean.
22:40 <ct|kyle> that one defaults to 32 clients still not the 50 though
22:41 <Tesseracter> so with a quadcore and a gigabit ethernet connection, any chance for a compile with 128 players?
22:43 <ct|kyle> you can always try
22:43 <ct|kyle> clients may crash when they exit server as there is a small bug with that, but I don't think it is a big problem
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00:22 <Tesseracter> So, im gunna compile a windows server for 128 clients, looks like its easier to do on linux? i only boot ubuntu at home, should i wait to get back there to compile, or try to do it with MS VC++?
00:23 <Luke-Jr> good luck, no current developers actually use Windows
00:23 <madmax> and others have tried and failed recently
00:28 <Luke-Jr> btw
00:28 <Luke-Jr> do we actually HAVE 128 players?
00:32 <Tesseracter> we have 112 computers...
00:33 <Tesseracter> and 110 campers, and 17 staff
00:33 <Tesseracter> so yeah, 128
00:34 <Tesseracter> so if i compile on ubuntu with the flags for a windows compile, i should be OK? or would it be better to compile a linux server, and use a liveCD...
00:39 <Luke-Jr> Tesseracter: I highly doubt the game can handle 128 players
00:40 <Luke-Jr> Tesseracter: clients don't have a limit on # of players, only servers
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01:00 <Tesseracter> Luke-Jr, where do you think the bottleneck is?
01:01 <Tesseracter> (right, i'll only be making a server compile)
01:02 <Tesseracter> 60 players per server would be OK... we have pretty highend machines, dual/quadcore, gigabit ethernet, LAN only game...
01:08 <Tesseracter> network? collision detection?
01:22 <Luke-Jr> Tesseracter: walls
01:22 <Luke-Jr> rendering
01:23 <Luke-Jr> as it is, 32-player can get quite slow
01:23 <Luke-Jr> especially on long rounds
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01:28 <Tesseracter> Luke-Jr: interesting... the server doesnt do that, does it? we have 8600s, rendering shouldnt be an issue. collision detection, on the other hand, would get intensive with 32 people.
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01:56 <Luke-Jr> Tesseracter: I doubt any video card on the market could handle 128 player with our code
01:57 <Luke-Jr> 128 player requires a larger grid which means that many more walls, on top of the fact that you have 128 wall sources...
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03:40 <CodeScreen> Is there any way to specify what sound device armagetron uses? (i.e. I have reason to believe it's defaulting to /dev/dsp0 and I need it to use /dev/dsp1)
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05:03 <Luke-Jr> CodeScreen: last I checked, Armagetron was silent :þ
05:05 <CodeScreen> Luke-Jr: 0.o?
05:05 <Luke-Jr> CodeScreen: Lucifer was going to add in a sound engine, but I don't think it works yet?
05:05 <CodeScreen> on my windows/linux builds i have sound ... just not bsd (and i think it's because of what I said above)
05:06 <Luke-Jr> CodeScreen: patches welcome ☺
05:07 <CodeScreen> Luke-Jr: .. so there's no way to tell it to use another sound device? :(
05:08 <CodeScreen> i figured there'd ba a -audio flag or something
05:08 <CodeScreen> armagetronad -audio /dev/dsp1   or similar
05:08 <CodeScreen> but i couldn't find anything :/
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05:13 <dubStep> Vanhayes_:
05:13 <Luke-Jr> CodeScreen: no clue ☺
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07:11 <tesseracter> i want to compile a redistributable windows binary. i have access to ubuntu(main) or winXP(work). whats my best plan of action? links appreciated.
07:17 <tesseracter> looks like mingw is the answer?
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17:57 <pruWord> hello
17:57 <dubStep> lol hey
17:57 <pruWord> ah:D
17:57 <dubStep> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUSzB8MJNes&feature=related
17:57 <pruWord> lol thx+
17:57 <dubStep> np
17:57 <dubStep> u will lol
17:58 <pruWord> WOW OMG
17:58 <pruWord> this ass
17:58 <Vanhayes_> dubStep,
17:58 <dubStep> yes?
17:58 <pruWord> lololol
17:58 <dubStep> lmao
17:58 <pruWord> the rifle....
17:59 <Vanhayes_> you pinged me 12 hours ago?
17:59 <dubStep> i know all the lyrics too, so sad
17:59 <dubStep> oh nvm its ok
17:59 <pruWord> hah
17:59 <dubStep> lol i <3 it though
17:59 <Vanhayes_> i just had to put my dog down
17:59 <dubStep> :o
17:59 <dubStep> why?
17:59 <Vanhayes_> old
17:59 <dubStep> :(
17:59 <dubStep> how old?
18:00 <Vanhayes_> 17 years old, lost control of her bladder
18:00 <pruWord> lol i remember those oyster card advertisements everywhere
18:00 <dubStep> aww :(
18:01 <pruWord> does anyone want to throw up?
18:01 <pruWord> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DMyAHhwWIA
18:01 <pruWord> :D
18:02 <dubStep> what is it?
18:02 <dubStep> because i might
18:02 <dubStep> actually vomit if its bad
18:02 <dubStep> lol..
18:02 <pruWord> an educational horror movie
18:02 <dubStep> oO
18:02 <dubStep> what is it though
18:02 <pruWord> you see that guy killing all his collegues
18:02 <pruWord> while a voice expains what you shouldnt do
18:03 <pruWord> when you drive with this kind of gar
18:03 <pruWord> car*
18:03 <dubStep> is it gross?
18:04 <pruWord> it's old but the end is funny
18:04 <P4> ye, G5, i'm at vilnius enjoying those crazy grils :)
18:04 <P4> girls*
18:04 <dubStep> lol k il watch it in a sec
18:04 <dubStep> \o p4
18:05 <P4> o/ dubStep
18:06 <pruWord> p4 ai wanted to ask you something btw
18:06 <pruWord> about auth
18:06 <pruWord> dont know what exactly
18:06 <pruWord> hes making something with @pru but he seems to be stucked with technical details
18:07 <dubStep> eh, i can only under like 3 words per sentance
18:07 <dubStep> lol
18:07 <dubStep> im gona learn german again soon i promise lol
18:07 <P4> what's the point?
18:08 <P4> i have about 30 minutes here, so please be quick
18:08 <P4> more or less :)
18:08 <pruWord> hm of the video?
18:08 <dubStep> word if i vomit il kill you
18:08 <dubStep> yea
18:08 <dubStep> lol
18:08 <pruWord> you dont need to understand the text xD
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18:09 <pruWord> he only says thinks like "oh you cant do that, thats forbidden"
18:09 <dubStep> omg so stupid
18:09 <pruWord> xD
18:09 <dubStep> theyre so stupod
18:09 <dubStep> stupid*
18:09 <dubStep> lol
18:09 <pruWord> it starts harmless and gets uglier
18:09 <dubStep> lol@cartoon
18:09 <pruWord> yup
18:09 <dubStep> im at 3 mins
18:09 <dubStep> omg no a knife ><
18:09 <dubStep> i cant watch
18:10 <pruWord> "did you see my knife anywhere?"
18:10 <pruWord> xD
18:10 <dubStep> lmao
18:10 <dubStep> he broke it in his head lol
18:11 <pruWord> "do you remember? only authorised personal can repair that"
18:11 <dubStep> hahahahaha
18:11 <Luke-Jr> I need a name for my new server..
18:11 <dubStep> his hands
18:11 <dubStep> rofl
18:11 <dubStep> Luke-Jr: whats the server?
18:12 <dubStep> lol word >< so silly, why are u even watching things like this?
18:13 <pruWord> i dont know....didnt watch that one since 4 years
18:13 <pruWord> nostalgic
18:13 <pruWord> P
18:13 <dubStep> lol
18:13 <dubStep> omg, chainsaw
18:13 <dubStep> ><
18:13 <Vanhayes_> Lucifer, nice webcomic, Content>art anyday
18:13 <pruWord> hehe
18:13 <pruWord> bah
18:13 <dubStep> omg so awful
18:14 <pruWord> that was the part i could throw up
18:14 <dubStep> its so awful omg
18:14 <dubStep> lol chainsaw and just arm
18:14 <dubStep> rofl
18:15 <dubStep> off into the sunset
18:15 <dubStep> ^^
18:15 <Luke-Jr> dubStep: new server
18:15 <pruWord> yes
18:15 <pruWord> :D
18:15  * dubStep applauds
18:15 <dubStep> good video lol
18:15 <pruWord> thx:)
18:15 <dubStep> Luke-Jr: what game mode?
18:15 <pruWord> ok cu)
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18:15 <Luke-Jr> dubStep: … a computer server, not a game server
18:15 <dubStep> ohhh
18:16 <Luke-Jr> related topic: http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19496
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18:17 <Luke-Jr> I name my servers with arbitrary Japanese names.
18:17 <Luke-Jr> well, my computers
18:17 <Luke-Jr> personal ones anyhow
18:19 <dubStep> pretty cool
18:23 <dubStep> Vanhayes: haha durka is gona be after you now =P
18:28 <Luke-Jr> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/24/japan-games
18:28 <Luke-Jr> fail
18:31 <dubStep> wow dude, talk about taking it too far oO
18:33 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer: z-man-work: guru3: wrtlprnft: http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19496
18:41 <Vanhayes_> dubStep, why is durka coming after me ?
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18:45 <dubStep> Vanhayes: Read Red and Yelo part 3
18:47 <Vanhayes_> ugh, but is so longg
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18:48 <Vanhayes_> wait am i in it?
18:48 <sine_wav> it's worth the read actually
18:49 <sine_wav> it's quite clever. I like where it's going.
18:49 <Luke-Jr> sine_wav: u can help too I think?
18:50 <Vanhayes_> ya its actually pretty funny
18:50 <sine_wav> I saw your post. I'm worried. what can I do?
18:50 <Luke-Jr> sine_wav: worried?
18:50 <sine_wav> well, I don't want there to be problems with a lack of resources of course.
18:50 <Luke-Jr> dunno what to worry about, like I said, worst case I can setup a VPS
18:51 <sine_wav> ok. how ca I help?
18:51 <sine_wav> can*
18:51 <Luke-Jr> well, actually I think we need to hear from guru3 first re Dreamhost
18:51 <Luke-Jr> before we know where what's going
18:51 <sine_wav> ok, I'll keep watching.
18:52 <Luke-Jr> I suspect the ratings system however needs a VPS
18:52 <Luke-Jr> since it runs as a Perl script
18:54 <Vanhayes_> Luke-Jr, is that your ]rating thing?
18:54 <sine_wav> Are you thinking I should buy a VPS to support that? This is possible.
18:59 <dubStep> hi sine_wav
18:59 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes_: yes, and ratings.armagetronad.net
18:59 <sine_wav> hi dubs! <3
18:59 <Luke-Jr> sine_wav: well, I was going to cover the cost myself, but if you want to help out financially, that's cool too XD
19:00 <dubStep> sine_wav: <3 guess what?
19:00 <sine_wav> We'll see what I can do. I'm rich right now, comparatively. But it's temporary.
19:00 <sine_wav> what dubs?
19:01 <dubStep> code hunter hacked my msn last night
19:01 <Vanhayes_> should make a 19 page topic about it
19:01 <sine_wav> Wait, you didn't do that? I though that was a joke. I lol'd!
19:02 <dubStep> lol do what?
19:02 <dubStep> what did he do?
19:02 <dubStep> on my msn lol
19:02 <dubStep> people are like, oh u goyt ur msn back
19:02 <dubStep> i couldnt login coz he changed my password and shit
19:02 <sine_wav> yeah the message "This is Code Hunter, you're next"
19:02 <dubStep> oh no
19:02 <dubStep> rofl
19:02 <dubStep> was really him
19:02 <dubStep> hes such a gaylord
19:02 <sine_wav> hmm. this is serious. It's illegal
19:03 <guru3> ratings thing?
19:03 <dubStep> anyway i had to change all my passwords
19:03 <guru3> what ratings thing?
19:03 <sine_wav> You should report it right away
19:03 <dubStep> report it to who?
19:03 <dubStep> and i dont have any proof
19:03 <sine_wav> report it to MSN
19:03 <dubStep> what proof do i have?
19:03 <guru3> ah that ratings
19:03 <sine_wav> they should on their end
19:03 <sine_wav> and it should help them make it more secure
19:03 <sine_wav> so do it.
19:04 <dubStep> ok ok im doing it now...
19:04 <dubStep> shit, i deleted his msn account
19:04 <dubStep> idk his email anymore
19:04 <dubStep> do you?
19:05 <sine_wav> uh, no. I'm not friends with n00bs
19:05 <dubStep> lmao
19:05 <sine_wav> I should watch what I say, he's probably listening.
19:05 <sine_wav> bored ass mother-father
19:05 <Luke-Jr> guru3: XD
19:06 <dubStep> rofl
19:06 <guru3> i just replied
19:06 <guru3> i think most of it can go on dreamhost
19:08 <Luke-Jr> ok
19:08 <Luke-Jr> guru3: how do we get it there? ☺
19:08 <Luke-Jr> let's start with distfiles, IMO
19:08 <Luke-Jr> seems to most clear-cut
19:09 <Luke-Jr> but maybe not, since it requires 2 vhosts
19:09 <Luke-Jr> hmm
19:10 <guru3> hmm indeed
19:10 <guru3> im not really sure how any of the stuff you're running is setup
19:10 <guru3> not off the top of my head anyway
19:11 <Luke-Jr> guru3: you have an account, right? ssh in and look :P
19:11 <guru3> i do? :o
19:12 <guru3> not on a computer with my key though :/
19:12 <guru3> did i set a password?
19:12 <Luke-Jr> oh, maybe you don't ö
19:12 <Luke-Jr> I don't see a "g<tab> or "t<tab>'
19:12 <Luke-Jr> any other usernames that might be you?
19:12 <guru3> f<tab>?
19:12 <guru3> yes i do have a login
19:12 <Luke-Jr> fcs?
19:12 <guru3> it does have a password
19:12 <guru3> yeah
19:12 <Luke-Jr> i c
19:12 <Luke-Jr> /var/www/armagetron/
19:13 <Luke-Jr> /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/02_armagetronad.conf
19:13 <Luke-Jr> /etc/apache2/modules.d/71_mod_suphp_ljr.conf
19:13 <Luke-Jr> about 5 GB total
19:14 <guru3> there's nothing i can do with suphp on dreamhost
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19:18 <guru3> can you keep thigns from changing while we transition everything?
19:21 <Luke-Jr> guru3: like what?
19:21 <guru3> lock resource uploads
19:21 <dubStep> sine_wav: ok done
19:21 <Luke-Jr> I really doubt that will be a problem?
19:22 <Luke-Jr> worst case we see an upload announced here and rsync it again
19:22 <guru3> well my plan was to do scp -r of everything to dreamhost
19:22 <Luke-Jr> ok, scp then rsync :þ
19:22 <guru3> just at the moment ssh to dreamhost isn't working
19:22 <guru3> so it aint going to be happening today -_-
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19:23 <Luke-Jr> hmm
19:23 <Luke-Jr> rmagick?
19:23 <guru3> i'd rather just wait for ssh
19:24 <Luke-Jr> no, I mean, does dreamhost have it
19:24 <guru3> don't think so
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19:27 <Luke-Jr> hmm
19:27 <guru3> going at a lovely 30KB/s
19:27 <Luke-Jr> so the resource master will probably need to be somewhere else
19:27 <Luke-Jr> guru3: hachi is at home ☺
19:27 <guru3> ><
19:27 <guru3> id best let it go overnight
19:27 <Luke-Jr> heh
19:27 <Luke-Jr> run it in screen?
19:27 <guru3> and add -C to the next one
19:27 <guru3> yeah it's running on a screen
19:27 <Luke-Jr> screen on the server I mean
19:27 <guru3> *in
19:27 <guru3> yeah
19:27 <Luke-Jr> ok
19:27 <guru3> but i forgot to scp -C
19:27 <Luke-Jr> -C is usually default btw
19:28 <guru3> hmm ive always added it myself
19:28 <Luke-Jr> most of the data probably won't compress well
19:28 <guru3> except this time of course -_-
19:28 <Luke-Jr> guru3: which one are you scping?
19:28 <guru3> anywho it's only doing beta to startwith
19:28 <Luke-Jr> oh
19:28 <Luke-Jr> beta isn't that big
19:28 <Luke-Jr> hmm
19:28 <guru3> yeah
19:28 <Luke-Jr> guru3: does DH have bzr/svn?
19:28 <guru3> svn yes
19:28 <guru3> bzr no
19:28 <Luke-Jr> beta is auto-updated
19:29 <guru3> i'm going to skip scping ratings
19:29 <guru3> considering it's only a virtual link to a directory that can't be read
19:29 <Luke-Jr> lol XD
19:29 <guru3> we'll have to do that seperately
19:29 <guru3> or ignore it
19:29 <Luke-Jr> yeah, dunno how we'll handle ratings
19:30 <Luke-Jr> probably put it on VPS along with resource master?
19:30 <guru3> how's the resource stuff setup currently
19:31 <Luke-Jr> suphp script for uploading, rmagick script to generate previews, rsync daily to mirrors
19:31 <Luke-Jr> mirrors have 404 handlers that redirect to master
19:32 <guru3> dreamhost runs everything through a cgi which means suphp isn't necessary
19:33 <Luke-Jr> o rly?
19:33 <guru3> yeah as near as i can work out
19:33 <guru3> i can watch top and see when people load a page
19:33 <guru3> because it'll show up
19:33 <Luke-Jr> guru3: we'll also need to ensure developers can upload/sync distfiles/beta/repository
19:34 <guru3> that'll be the annoying bit
19:34 <Luke-Jr> yeah, probably
19:34 <Luke-Jr> does DH allow groups?
19:34 <guru3> yeah
19:35 <guru3> it might be worth it to setup the stuff being transferred on a sub account
19:39 <guru3> god...
19:39 <guru3> scp -r is following symlinks
19:39 <guru3> so download in beta is getting distfiles
19:40 <Luke-Jr> -.-
19:40 <Luke-Jr> scp -a
19:40 <Luke-Jr> crap
19:40 <Luke-Jr> scp doesn't support -a
19:40 <Luke-Jr> just use rsync XD
19:40  * guru3 does not know how to use rsync
19:40 <Luke-Jr> rsync /var/www/armagetron/beta/ remote:/path/to/dest/ -av --delete
19:41 <Luke-Jr> --delete will cleanup the files scp did weird things to
19:41 <Luke-Jr> so be sure you have the dest right ;)
19:41 <guru3> can i run it the other way around
19:41 <Luke-Jr> it deletes any files it doesn't know
19:41 <Luke-Jr> I think so
19:41 <guru3> rsync aabeta.dashjr.org:/var beta/
19:41 <guru3> because like... i don't know my dreamhost account password
19:41 <Luke-Jr> use -a tho
19:41 <Luke-Jr> lol
19:41 <Luke-Jr> ssh -A ;p
19:41 <guru3> ok full command
19:41 <sine_wav> hahaha
19:42 <guru3> rsync aabeta.dashjr.org:/var/www/armagetron/beta beta/ -av --delete
19:42 <Luke-Jr> rsync beta.armagetronad.net:/var/www/armagetron/beta/ /path/to/dest/that/WILL/be/clobbered/ -av --delete
19:42 <guru3> do i need to run this through ssh?
19:42 <Luke-Jr> ?
19:42 <guru3> can i just put the command in
19:42 <guru3> i mean ive got different usernames
19:42 <guru3> etc
19:42 <Luke-Jr> prefix username@ ;p
19:44 <guru3> well that's running
19:44 <guru3> no idea what it's doing really
19:44 <guru3> but it's running
19:45 <Luke-Jr> it should list files...
19:45 <guru3> appears to be redownloading reboot.mpg
19:46 <guru3> i'll just let it go
19:47 <guru3> time for dinner here
19:47 <guru3> bbl
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19:59 <sine_wav> hello DDMJ
20:06 <dubStep_> grr sine
20:06 <dubStep_> gene says taz and creator threatened to hack his msn account...
20:07 <Luke-Jr> o well
20:07 <Luke-Jr> not sure anyone here cares? XD
20:08 <dubStep_> clearly not enough to keep silent... :)
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20:13 <sine_wav> so, is it only MSN that get's hacked? How does it happen? How is it preventable?
20:17 <sine_wav> Hmm... it bothers me that there is a site called http://www.msn-hack.net/
20:18 <dubStep> :/
20:18 <dubStep> well
20:18 <dubStep> whoever itw as had access to my email account
20:18 <dubStep> which is linked to 5 others
20:18 <dubStep> which is linked to paypal, debit cards etc
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20:19 <dubStep> but w/e ><
20:19 <Luke-Jr> >_<
20:19 <dubStep> i reckon he/they are using passwords they got from ID/VcL forums
20:20 <sine_wav> I think I'll go change all mine, just in case.
20:20 <Luke-Jr> I think I have too many passwords to change all of them
20:20 <Luke-Jr> XD
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20:20 <Luke-Jr> but for email, my password is unknown to anyone
20:20 <Luke-Jr> not even my wife
20:20 <sine_wav> Yeah, I have quite a few. I guess I need to make them more specific.
20:21 <sine_wav> yeah, don't let your wife know.
20:21 <dubStep> lol..
20:21 <Luke-Jr> for some reason I told my password to my cousin so he could read me an email over the phone...
20:21 <sine_wav> that's just careless. women are evil
20:21 <Luke-Jr> after that, I changed it again
20:21  * Luke-Jr wonders why he didn't share a OTP
20:22 <sine_wav> makes me think of when my ex tried to destroy my computer once...
20:22 <dubStep> omg sine
20:22 <dubStep> sexism ftl
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20:22 <sine_wav> what?
20:22 <sine_wav> dude, chicks do crazy stuff when they gat mad
20:23 <Luke-Jr> so do guys, duh
20:23 <Luke-Jr> humans are retarded
20:23 <Luke-Jr> I mean, look at Code
20:23 <sine_wav> yeah, right.
20:23 <Luke-Jr> you think he's a chick?
20:23 <sine_wav> I see.
20:24 <sine_wav> but acting like that is far from manly behavior
20:24 <Luke-Jr> well, true
20:24 <Luke-Jr> women don't really ever grow up
20:24 <sine_wav> :D
20:24 <Luke-Jr> but that's by design :þ
20:24 <dubStep> OMG luke
20:24 <dubStep> its the other way around
20:24 <sine_wav> haha
20:24 <dubStep> men never ever grow up
20:25 <Luke-Jr> women are meant to deal with kids
20:25 <dubStep> ><
20:25 <dubStep> and men just stay kids.
20:25 <dubStep> forever.
20:26 <sine_wav> she's got a point. I'm almost 40 and I still love giant robots.
20:26 <dubStep> haha
20:26 <sine_wav> but now I like them philosophically
20:27 <Luke-Jr> …
20:28 <Luke-Jr> men *can* grow up
20:28 <Luke-Jr> even if they might still choose to play around sometiems
20:28 <dubStep> lol luke
20:28 <sine_wav> yes, I see your point
20:28  * dubStep ends her involvement in the convo
20:28 <dubStep> i am not an observer
20:28 <dubStep> :)
20:28 <dubStep> now*
20:28 <Luke-Jr> perhaps "grow up" isn't the best term
20:28 <Luke-Jr> women grow up differently than men grow up
20:28 <Luke-Jr> how about that? ☺
20:28 <Durka> Luke-Jr: do u know much about mysql?
20:29 <Luke-Jr> Durka: yes
20:29 <Durka> Luke-Jr: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
20:29 <sine_wav> durka, how did you mess up your forums?
20:29 <Luke-Jr> Durka: fail
20:29 <Durka> gene changed the root pw
20:29 <dubStep> but il end with this, men's toys are the only thing that develop, the childlike behaviour is always the same =P
20:29 <Durka> so he told me "o just use sudo"
20:29 <Durka> well that messed up the forum permissions and apparently the mysql database crashed and can't restart now?
20:29 <Luke-Jr> …
20:29 <Durka> idk :S
20:29 <Luke-Jr> Durka: FAIL
20:30 <Durka> Luke-Jr: do you know what's wrong? :)
20:30 <Luke-Jr> so gene's slowly taking over? XD
20:30 <sine_wav> isn't he going to host the arma resources too?
20:30 <Luke-Jr> Durka: you have failed to provide any relevant info
20:31 <Luke-Jr> sine_wav: he can setup a mirror if he wants, that's well documented
20:31 <Luke-Jr> I don't think we should trust him with the master
20:32 <Durka> Luke-Jr: what relevant info do you need?
20:32 <Luke-Jr> Durka: no clue, it's probably over my head
20:32 <Luke-Jr> I would probably just conclude MySQL sucks
20:34 <Durka> awesome..
20:40 <Vanhayes_> don't expect atual help from Luke-Jr, his responses usually range from one word answers to mocking remarks
20:41 <sine_wav> he uses the mocking to steer you in the right direction?
20:43 <Luke-Jr> XD
20:43 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes_: Durka's problem sounds like a corrupt db or soemthing
20:43 <Luke-Jr> not something I would know
20:43 <Vanhayes_> im not sure, all i know is dont get in a religous debate with him unless you want to be told your wrong over and over
20:44 <Durka> Vanhayes_ is GOD
20:44 <Luke-Jr> Durka: wrong
20:44 <Vanhayes_> thou shall be rewarded for thyne faith Durka
20:46 <sine_wav> fortunately, Luke's beliefs don't make him more or less of a good programmer.
20:46 <sine_wav> or anyones for that matter
20:48 <Vanhayes_> unless they are given divine programming skills, no it wouldm't effect anything
20:49 <sine_wav> sometimes programming seems like a miracle to me. Just cuz I don't understand a lot of it.
20:54 <Luke-Jr> pwnt
20:55 <Vanhayes_> one word answer!
20:56 <dubStep> soz but
20:56 <dubStep> .sl
20:56 <tronner> dubStep: This data is 64 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (10/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (8/8), 14! Fightclub - OPEN Play (7/9), WILDCAT (7/8), BrokenSilence Fortress (7/24), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (5/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (100mbit) (1 more message)
20:56 <dubStep> .si broken
20:56 <tronner> dubStep: BrokenSilence Fortress: Players (7/24): -||BS|ChrisGW (ChrisGW@forums), -||BS|Hype (hype@), .×] Durka (DDMJ@forums), ctt|pike, DrHouse (DrHouse@forums), Mkay-1 (Mkay1@forums), trivella
20:56 <dubStep> hmm
20:57 <dubStep> .more
20:57 <tronner> dubStep: (4/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (3/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (3/32), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (2/8), -=Prutopolis=- -=Capture The Flag=- (2/10), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega TeamSumo (1/32), internalDrive -=- iD Tech Camps (1/16)
20:57 <dubStep> .si mega fort
20:57 <tronner> dubStep: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (3/32): .×] Hoax, .×] Liza, Fluffles
20:57 <dubStep> lol wtf
20:58 <Vanhayes_> who is fluffles?
20:58 <sine_wav> dunno
20:58 <dubStep> richie
20:59 <Luke-Jr> ugh
20:59 <Luke-Jr> OLM is taking a long time to build my new server
21:00 <Luke-Jr> I would have thought they'd be smart enough to have it all ready before they moved the HD
21:00 <Luke-Jr> -.-
21:00 <sine_wav> who is richie?
21:01 <dubStep> nvm
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21:06 <sine_wav> .alias sine
21:07 <sine_wav> wait, how does this work? the alias thing?
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21:19 <Luke-Jr> …
21:19 <Luke-Jr> ]alias sine_wav
21:19 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: Error: The "Alias" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "sine_wav" in it.  Try "list Alias" to see the commands in the "Alias" plugin.
21:19 <Luke-Jr> ]aka sine_wav
21:19 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: I don't know anything about 'sine_wav'!
21:19 <Luke-Jr> ]alias sine.wav
21:19 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: Error: The "Alias" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "sine.wav" in it.  Try "list Alias" to see the commands in the "Alias" plugin.
21:19 <Luke-Jr> ]aka sine.wav
21:19 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: ¿28427 sine.wav2 cos.wav poke'_master sine.wav -=}id<_sin donttazemebro snafu ||_the_reaper poke'_mast omagetron galerus dont_tazeme_bro2 -={id<_tyler crom cosine.wav
21:19 <Luke-Jr> there we go
21:20 <sine_wav> hmm thanks. it bothers me that Poke comes up...
21:20 <Luke-Jr> lol
21:20 <sine_wav> that kid annoys me, likes to hijack that name.
21:23 <sine_wav> does it mean all those other people hijack my name? I don't understand how this function works...
21:24 <sine_wav> ]help aka
21:24 <ljrbot> sine_wav: (aka <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/aka.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
21:25 <sine_wav> ]help alias
21:25 <ljrbot> sine_wav: Error: There is no command "alias".
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21:36 <Luke-Jr> wee
21:36 <Luke-Jr> new server up
21:36 <Luke-Jr> don't have time to migrate the old hosted stuff, so I just chrooted to the old system and "booted" it XD
21:36 <sine_wav> w00t
21:40 <guru3> Luke-Jr: the rsynced beta/ is 75M :/
21:40 <guru3> oh i know why
21:40 <guru3> nm
21:41 <Luke-Jr> ?
21:41 <guru3> dir inside a dir named beta
21:41 <guru3> oops
21:41 <Luke-Jr> the trailing / is important for rsync ;)
21:42 <guru3> so it seems
21:42 <guru3> starting the rsync of distfiles now
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21:44 <Luke-Jr> that'll take all day I bet
21:44 <Luke-Jr> lol
21:44 <guru3> all night here
21:44 <guru3> i'm going to skip downloading the backups
21:51 <Luke-Jr> backups?
21:52 <guru3> arma-distfiles-20070124.tbz2
21:53 <Luke-Jr> o.o
21:53 <Luke-Jr> maybe that's where all my disk space has gone
21:53 <Luke-Jr> XD
21:53 <guru3> ><\
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22:19 <madmax> hi
22:19 <MaZuffeR> hi
22:26 <sine_wav> hi
22:27 <MrBougo> hi
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22:39 <dubStep> oO
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Log from 2009-07-25:
--- Day changed Sat Jul 25 2009
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00:26 <dubStep> .sl
00:26 <tronner> dubStep: This data is 87 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (13/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (8/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), WILDCAT (6/8), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), Wild West  =Dog Fight=  ~Multi~Mode~ (5/16), Crazy (1 more message)
00:27 <dubStep> .more
00:27 <tronner> dubStep: Tronners Open Sumo (5/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (4/10), Wild West  =High Rubber= (3/16), tronners->racing (3/11), -=VcL.Clan Regular Fortress (100mbit) (3/16), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (2/16), >>> FAST TRACK TRAINING SERVER <<< (2/2), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (1/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (1/12), Flynn's Arcade #2 (Brakes) - .:Avl:. Clan Nano (1/8)
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02:50 <sunny__> moin
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03:21 <Vanhayes_> .as
03:21 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 64 seconds old; |FA| Black Tar! (11/16), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (8/8), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (8/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (100mbit) (6/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (5/16), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (4/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (1 more message)
03:21 <Vanhayes_> .si mega
03:21 <tronner> Vanhayes_: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (8/32): .dubStep (dubStep@ct), ¶Pøtter, CTT_W33D, dodododoodododo, Fomalhaut, Thump.uNk, Wildcat, ~|DS|~AshitakA
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--- Log opened Sat Jul 25 05:29:40 2009
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06:59 <Lucifer> I cut down trees, I eat my lunch, I like to press wildflowers
06:59 <Lucifer> I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars
07:06 <Van-down-hayes> those are varied hobbies
07:12 <Lucifer> Van-down-hayes?
07:16 <Lucifer> wow, I didn't realize a comic with a star wars punchline could be so hard to draw
07:20 <Lucifer> this one's going to take awhile to finish
07:43 <Van-down-hayes> Lucifer what were those lines from?
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07:55 <wa3yri> #List
07:56 <wa3yri> List
07:56 <wa3yri> #list
07:56 <wa3yri> #help
07:57 <Van-down-hayes> try . or @, # is for armabot who isnt here atm
07:57 <wa3yri> thanks
07:57 <wa3yri> .list
07:57 <tronner> wa3yri: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, CTServer, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, ExternalControl, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Python, RSS, Reply, Seen, Sourceforge, Status, Stock, String, StringEncode, Supybot, Tail, Time, Todo, Topic, Unix, User, Utilities, Utils, Weather, and Web
07:58 <wa3yri> .user
07:58 <tronner> wa3yri: (user [<channel>] <name>) -- Returns the last time <name> was seen and what <name> was last seen saying. This looks up <name> in the user seen database, which means that it could be any nick recognized as user <name> that was seen. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
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07:59 <wa3yri> .alias
07:59 <wa3yri> .Alias
08:01 <wa3yri> .later
08:01 <wa3yri> .quit
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08:03 <Lucifer> Van-down-hayes: monty python song
08:20 <Van-down-hayes> ah that would explain the randomness of it
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10:07 <Van-down-hayes> .as
10:07 <tronner> Van-down-hayes: This data is 52 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (6/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag Advanced!= (6/12), -=VcL.Clan Sumo (100mbit) (5/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (3/10), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (3/10), BrokenSilence Fortress (2/24), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (2/8), Wild West  =Dog (1 more message)
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12:08 <guru3> Luke-Jr: there are some resources which aren't rsyncing across because of permission denied to open them
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14:27 <|z10n|> hi all
14:27 <|z10n|> !lastspoke ashitaka
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16:29 <compguygene> hi guys, I have a few questions about the current state of the trunk code, I am setting up a trunk server, just to play with some
16:30 <compguygene> i unstand the inherent instability therein, but thought it might be a good idea to start playing with some ideas i have now...and you devs could always use it to experiment with code...etc
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16:31 <compguygene> anyone out there?
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16:34 <compguygene> ok...well, if anyone is out there, i will brb  am rebooting a  windoze install ugggg
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17:29 <Luke-Jr> guru3: example?
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18:53 <guru3> Luke-Jr: rsync: send_files failed to open "/var/www/armagetron/resource/resource/Vanhayes/.id": Permission denied (13)
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19:11 <Luke-Jr> guru3: hmm
19:11 <Luke-Jr> guru3: that might be ok, depending on if DH can be the master
19:11 <Luke-Jr> I suspect it can only mirror tho
19:14 <guru3> hmm
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19:16 <Durka> TEST
19:16 <Durka> .randteam t1,t2
19:16 <Durka> .randomteam t1,t2
19:16 <tronner> Durka: Team 1: t1, Team 2: t2,
19:16 <Durka> .randomteam t1,t2,t3,t4
19:16 <tronner> Durka: Team 1: t1, Team 2: t4, Team 3: t3, Team 4: t2,
19:17 <Durka> .randomteam t1,t2,t3,t4
19:17 <tronner> Durka: Team 1: t1, Team 2: t2, Team 3: t4, Team 4: t3,
19:17 <Durka> k, FOREAL
19:17 <Durka> .roulette
19:17 <tronner> Durka: *click*
19:17 <Durka> .randomteam tx,rev,pru,sp,unk,sd,plus,ct1,bs,ct2,ds
19:17 <tronner> Durka: Team 1: plus, Team 2: sp, Team 3: sd, Team 4: tx, Team 5: rev, Team 6: bs, Team 7: unk, Team 8: pru, Team 9: ct2, Team 10: ds, Team 11: ct1,
19:17 <Durka> .roulette
19:17 <tronner> Durka: *click*
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21:11 <sunny__> hey guys
21:14 <Lizmatic> barf
21:15 <sunny__> hihi ;)
21:15 <sunny__> u r not a girl
21:15 <sunny__> u r the queen ;)
21:15 <Lizmatic> wat
21:15 <Lizmatic> are you drunk?
21:16 <sunny__> haha damn i just read liza xD
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21:16 <Lizmatic> o_O
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21:16 <sunny__> sry liz xD
21:17 <Lizmatic> nope I'm the annoying liz :<
21:17 <sunny__> yea u r
21:17 <sunny__> :P
21:17 <Lizmatic> LOL!
22:04 <Lucifer> why is this channel filled with ramblings from semiliterate simians?
22:09 <akira_arma> ...
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22:48 <Vanhayes_> Lucifer, because the fully iliterate simians wouldnt know how to type?
22:48 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: your logic is, as usual, inescapable
22:49 <Vanhayes_> yes but, oh how people try to escape it
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Log from 2009-07-26:
--- Day changed Sun Jul 26 2009
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00:26 <Vanhayes_> .as
00:27 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 57 seconds old; Wild West  =Tournament Server= ~Bravo~ (12/12), Wild West  =Tournament Server= ~Delta~ (12/12), Wild West  =Tournament Server= ~Alpha~ (11/10), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Fortress (US) [Ã. (11/32), Wild West  =Tournament Server= ~Charlie~ (9/8), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), |FA| Black Tar! (7/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), ~Night Walker's Central~Loose DF~ (2 more messages)
00:27 <Vanhayes_> .si ted
00:27 <tronner> Vanhayes_: .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×.: Players (11/32): -»|bird, -»|Hooarx, .×] Hoax, .×] Liza, .×] nuby, .dubStep (dubStep@ct), eNz0, infámóus, Ricochet, Ska, ~|DS|~AshitakA
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--- Log opened Sat Oct 03 18:06:48 2009
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18:20 <evaldusia> YouTube is down for maintenance and will be back shortly.
18:20 <evaldusia> YAY
18:21 <\u03b5> NOT
18:21 <\u03b5> jeez
18:21 <\u03b5> each time i see youtube's homepage with the "recommended for you" videos
18:21 <\u03b5> I wonder wtf i watch on youtube for it to show that..
18:22 <evaldusia> klol
18:22 <evaldusia> you watch crap
18:22 <evaldusia> like everyone does
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18:27 <\u03b5> :S
18:27 <\u03b5> hi i2020
18:34 <dlh> Nice. "[0] User 0 timed out." followed by several thousand lines of "Server tried to disconnect from itself." warnings...
18:35 <\u03b5> the joys of eating oneself's tail
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23:57 <ct|kyle> every new person seams to get added to my foes list
23:58 <evaldusia> LOL
23:58 <evaldusia> lol i should be most addicted in ctos right now
23:59 <evaldusia> have had played 170+ rounds

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