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Log from 2009-06-17:
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00:14 <madmax> CodeBlock: dual core?
00:16 <madmax> CodeBlock: http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17271
00:24 <Vanhayes> .sd
00:24 <tronner> Vanhayes: Usage: .serverdetails [-v] {name}
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00:46 <PinkTomato> ljrbot, ?
00:46 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: Error: "?" is not a valid command.
01:00 <CodeBlock> by the way i fixed my error by upgrading to the beta
01:00 <CodeBlock> :)
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02:51 <fonkay> Anyone want to play a round or two?
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04:59 <Lucifer> I'd like to play around, but can't seem to find anybody who also wants to play around
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05:27 <Concord> Lucifer: I read most of the old Fort topics, and man, you have to start playing again
05:27 <Lucifer> why's that?
05:27 <Concord> most of the game's tactics are yours
05:27 <Concord> :P
05:27 <Lucifer> ooo, somebody finally noticed :)
05:27 <Concord> yeah...you were wrong about ganking though
05:28 <Concord> as it turns out
05:28 <Lucifer> ganking?
05:28 <Lucifer> what *is* ganking, anyway?
05:28 <Concord> its our term for crowding the zone
05:28 <Concord> you said a couple times
05:28 <Lucifer> two can take the zone, but three can't
05:28 <Concord> that 3 attackers in a zone doesn't work, they'll kill each other
05:28 <Concord> yeah
05:28 <Lucifer> it was a different level of play at the time
05:28 <Lucifer> I just never went back to retract that :)
05:28 <Concord> o definitely
05:29 <Lucifer> also, two can defend the zone, at the time I did most of that writing, only one could
05:29 <Lucifer> sumo changed the fortress landscape quite a bit, and for the better
05:29 <Concord> yeah
05:29 <Concord> my favorite part
05:29 <Concord> came around november 15th or so
05:29 <Concord> when people started splitting off the grind
05:29 <Lucifer> I do strongly believe that we needed that time period where I was right in order to establish the skills needed :)
05:30 <Concord> yeah, in a server full of fort newbs, someones gotta teach em
05:30 <Lucifer> at the time I started playing fort, it had been around for several months, and it was pure chaos
05:30 <Concord> yeah
05:30 <Lucifer> I think that my team and I managed to figure out all the fundamentals that are now in use in about 6 hours
05:31 <Lucifer> it's weird, because oscilloscope (now Louven) was the defender for my team, and Your_mom was the defender for the other team :)
05:31 <Concord> theres a funny post
05:31 <Lucifer> I think Manta was in there, too, at that time
05:31 <Concord> where you credit your_mom in passing as the best defender
05:31 <Concord> just a couple weeks ago, Flex did the same thing
05:31 <Concord> for present day ;)
05:31 <Lucifer> he is :)
05:32 <Lucifer> Your_mom and I have been playin together for years, and had already played together for years when fort came out
05:32 <Lucifer> he used to draw sick mazes and then follow his tail, and try to get people to go in with him
05:32 <Concord> well, it looks like we're finally taking a second big step forward regarding tactics, and your missing out!
05:32 <Lucifer> actually, he and Yaza (who no longer plays) and I all did the grind in the basic team play that nobody plays
05:32 <Lucifer> and we dominated then, too
05:32 <Lucifer> ah, I'll pick them up sooner or later, don't worry :)
05:33 <Lucifer> I want a new game mode to work with
05:33 <Concord> I have it for you, btw
05:33 <Concord> are you at all familiar with hold the flag
05:33 <Lucifer> I did the same thing for CTF, if you dig those threads up, but most CTF players don't read our forums
05:33 <Concord> and therefore ctf sucks these days
05:33 <Lucifer> so it wasn't as serious a thing
05:34 <Concord> two teams, two flag-carriers, fort physics
05:34 <Concord> the opposing team just tries to kill the flag carrier
05:34 <Concord> last flag-carrier standing wins
05:34 <Lucifer> fort physics is my home.  :)  Fort physics happen to come from the old Breakfast servers that eggcozy, swampy, and I ran
05:34 <Lucifer> that's another little known fact :)
05:35 <Lucifer> man, now I feel old, heh
05:35 <Concord> when was tail shrink made the standard?
05:35 <Lucifer> as soon as it was implemented
05:35 <ct|kyle> wasen't it
05:35 <Lucifer> wasn't 0.2.8 still in beta when tail shrink was implemented?
05:35 <Concord> was that fall 06?
05:36 <Lucifer> I've got another thread for you to dig up, but I won't tell you what it says
05:36 <Lucifer> find the first thread where fortress is proposed :)
05:36 <ct|kyle> not sure I think ed waited a bit to add it to CTWF to let the players update to
05:36 <Concord> I think I recently credited [fe] as the first fort team, because they are the earliest documented
05:36 <Concord> was knights of ni earlier?
05:36 <Lucifer> possibly
05:36 <Lucifer> damn
05:37 <Lucifer> knights of ni was a spoon team, for the first tronic competition
05:37 <Lucifer> fe may have already existed at the time, I don't really remember, but fe was a clan
05:37 <Lucifer> Formerly Elite
05:37 <Concord> fe was around january 06
05:37 <Lucifer> my team for the spoon was originally called something like the Fighting Smegheads
05:38 <ct|kyle> CT was end of Feb 06
05:38 <Lucifer> we picked a different name because there were some people who wanted to play on it that wouldn't play under that name
05:38 <Lucifer> but we weren't a clan
05:38 <Concord> kyle:
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05:39 <Concord> I have the first organized match at AW vs FE March 8 06
05:39 <Concord> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=
05:39 <Lucifer> ooo, AW may be the first team
05:39 <Concord> no
05:39 <Lucifer> or they formed in response to FE
05:40 <Lucifer> I believe they all predate the spoon, though
05:40 <Lucifer> yeah, because tronic came out of the first organized matches
05:40 <Concord> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=prev&oldid=2846
05:40 <Concord> "First, FE-clan are looking for practice, and I know a could of players who would like to give them a game. Stick your name here, times you are available generally, why you want to play them, etc. The section that follows the players is about when and where we play them..."
05:40 <Concord> specifically formed to battle fe
05:40 <Concord> ;)
05:41 <Lucifer> yeah, FE hit a big nerve amongst fort players
05:41 <Concord> yeah
05:41 <Lucifer> if you hadn't guessed :)
05:41 <Concord> they weren't around long...
05:41 <Lucifer> well, they changed their name
05:41 <Concord> sl
05:41 <Lucifer> it quickly got to a point where you couldn't wear an FE badge without getting a bunch of shit dumped on you
05:41 <Concord> tronic predated aw, but aw predated the spoon
05:41 <Concord> all were 2020's creation
05:41 <Concord> aw, tronic, spoon
05:41 <Lucifer> spoon is part of tronic
05:42 <Concord> yep
05:42 <Concord> I mean aw formed before spoon-teams formed
05:42 <Concord> a bunch of teams formed specifically because of the spoon
05:42 <Concord> aw wasn't one of them
05:42 <Lucifer> I used to have a PM on the forums from 2020 crediting me with putting the momentum into the spoon
05:43 <Lucifer> because after I made my smart-ass joining for the spoon, a bunch of people created teams
05:43 <Lucifer> in like 2 days, 4 more teams formed
05:43 <Concord> nice :)
05:43 <Lucifer> silly, actually :)
05:44 <Lucifer> the reason I joined was because I saw people talking trash about it, and minor revert wars, and people calling it "gay"
05:44 <Lucifer> good times
05:44 <Lucifer> :)
05:44 <Concord> looking back, that sounds absurd, but after reading some of the old threads...
05:44 <Concord> my favorite thing:
05:44 <Lucifer> nobody thought anything like that could work
05:45 <Concord> dec, 31 2005: http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2837
05:45 <Lucifer> people thought 2020 was nuts just for proposing it
05:45 <Concord> and
05:45 <Concord> may 11, 2009 http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19334
05:45 <Concord> some things don't change :P
05:47 <Lucifer> haha
05:47 <Lucifer> you wanna know the truth?
05:47 <Concord> do i?
05:47 <Lucifer> we invented the torpedo to get into Your_mom's zone
05:47 <Lucifer> FULL STOP
05:47 <Concord>  
05:47 <Lucifer> we mostly means I, but obviously I needed someone to go through the hole
05:48 <ivantis>  
05:48 <Lucifer> so we'd grind in as fast as we could, then I threw myself against mom's wall, and whoever was with me went in
05:48 <ct|kyle>  heh, I still remember my first feature request for the game, must have been around this time in 2006, I printed out the responses I got overnight and read then on the bus ride to go conoeing (were my canoe got tipped over). It should be in by now part of zones v2
05:48 <Lucifer> Manta was there :)
05:48 <Lucifer> he was my second partner in it
05:48 <ivantis>  
05:48 <Concord> most of these players still play
05:48 <Concord> in tourneys too
05:48 <Lucifer> a few days later, I was defending, and someone torpedoed me, and Manta said "Now don't you feel bad for inventing that" or something like that :)
05:48  * ivantis has one of those pauses like in a youtube poop
05:48 <Concord> so get your ass on the grid
05:49 <Concord> lol
05:49 <ivantis> Everyone talking has a 7-character nick!
05:49 <Concord> october, 2005: "The first, foremost, and almost only, is the missile.”
05:49 <Lucifer> send me a new cpu fan, and I'll play
05:49 <Lucifer> link?
05:49 <Concord> its The Thread
05:49 <ivantis> #q
05:50 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." (added by epsy at 11:34 PM, November 16, 2007)
05:50 <Lucifer> the missile was something that predates me, and a good center grind made obsolete
05:50 <Concord> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2529
05:50 <ivantis> #q
05:50 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
05:50 <ivantis> #q
05:50 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug" (added by Pathetique at 03:24 PM, March 04, 2009)
05:51 <Lucifer> holy shit, kamp was describing the grind
05:51 <ct|kyle> #q 69
05:51 <ivantis> Eww, that old man said that one
05:51 <armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #77: "scool is easy it just makes me board --ct|kyle" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:04 AM, July 31, 2008)
05:51 <Lucifer> at the time, it seemed like he was describing something totally different
05:51 <ct|kyle> #quote get 69
05:51 <armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
05:51 <ivantis> #quote get 100
05:51 <armabot> ivantis: Error: There is no Quote with id #100 in my database for #armagetron.
05:52 <ivantis> idiot
05:52 <ivantis> #quote get 70
05:52 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?" (added by K-Yo at 08:15 PM, February 20, 2008)
05:52 <ivantis> #q
05:52 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #27: "thats like asking if vegetarians can eat animal crackers -- DrJoeTron" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:12 AM, October 26, 2006)
05:52 <ivantis> #q
05:52 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #43: "sorry to interrupt, but how do you add a quote? -- ghableska" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:00 AM, March 05, 2007)
05:52 <Concord> described the torpedo
05:53 <ivantis> #q
05:53 <Concord> yeah
05:53 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #41: "<spidey> hmm  <GodTodd> stfu spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:32 AM, January 02, 2007)
05:53 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
05:53 <ivantis> #q
05:53 <armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
05:53 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." (added by epsy at 11:34 PM, November 16, 2007)
05:53 <ivantis> #q
05:53 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #66: "<Ady666> armabot say 'ello [...] <Ady666> its not smart enough" (added by epsy at 12:16 AM, December 22, 2007)
05:54 <Concord> and the earliest proof I have of [fe] is a bug recording meriton did
05:54 <ivantis> armabot say 'ello
05:54 <armabot> 'ello
05:54 <Concord> I can't even play it back properly
05:54 <Concord> but the player config
05:54 <ivantis> It is smart enough!
05:54 <ivantis> #q
05:54 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
05:54 <ivantis> #q
05:54 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to actually give the zune the time of day and looked at what the hell it really does, and wow, way to take something with alot of potential and just destroy it microsoft <Lucifer_arma> that's what they've always done ... take electric potential and turn it into waste" (added by epsy at 10:40 PM, July 13, 2007)
05:55 <ivantis> #quote get 80
05:55 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks" (added by epsy at 11:35 PM, August 04, 2008)
05:55 <ivantis> #quote get 90
05:55 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug" (added by Pathetique at 03:24 PM, March 04, 2009)
05:55 <ivantis> #quote get 95
05:55 <armabot> ivantis: Error: There is no Quote with id #95 in my database for #armagetron.
05:55 <ivantis> #quote get 93
05:55 <armabot> ivantis: Error: There is no Quote with id #93 in my database for #armagetron.
05:55 <ivantis> #quote get 92
05:55 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #92: "<Lucifer> Vanhayes: you're somewheres around 18 now, right? <Vanhayes> not on this computer" (added by Luke-Jr at 03:00 AM, March 17, 2009)
05:56 <ivantis> #quote get 91
05:56 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #91: "[19:09:13] <smoothice> I disagree with my statement" (added by Luke-Jr at 01:09 AM, March 14, 2009)
05:56 <ivantis> #quote get 89
05:56 <armabot> ivantis: Quote #89: "<ct|kyle>: smoothice: you can with zones v3" (added by epsy at 12:19 AM, February 15, 2009)
05:57 <ivantis> ňôõb
05:57 <Lucifer> ivantis: do you really need to interupt conversations to do this?
05:57 -!- ivantis was kicked from #Armagetron by Luke-Jr [I still have op.]
05:57 <Concord> boy, authentication was a long time coming
05:57 <Lucifer> haha, thanks luke :)
05:57 <@Luke-Jr> :D
05:58 <@Luke-Jr> ct|kyle: wtf is zones v3 btw?
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06:00 <ivantis> #echo Ćhêçk ïť òůť, Ī čāń ťýpę ąwëśómèłÿ
06:00 <armabot> Ćhêçk ïť òůť, Ī čāń ťýpę ąwëśómèłÿ
06:00 <ivantis> armabot FTW!
06:02 <Lucifer> #ignore ivantis
06:03 <Lucifer> heh, it is interesting to read that old thread, Concord :)
06:03 <Concord> indeed
06:03 <Lucifer> considering how stubborn arma players are, you can imagine the tough time we had getting this stuff to sink in
06:03 <Lucifer> there was considerable opposition to the grind at start
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06:04 <Lucifer> also, everyone wanted to chase the zone and leave a single goalie by himself, so there was considerable opposition to leaving 2-4 defenders
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06:04 <ivantis> Luke-Jr: die
06:04 -!- ivantis was kicked from #Armagetron by Luke-Jr [bye]
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06:04 <Lucifer> ivantis: if you don't figure out how to /msg armabot pretty quickly, you're going to get nuked
06:04 <Lucifer> playing with armabot is fine if there's nothing going on in the channel
06:04 <ivantis> lol wut is msg do
06:04 <Concord> today its rare to see less than 3 defending players
06:04 <Concord> and thats 6v6!
06:05 <Concord> in organized matches anyway
06:05 <@Luke-Jr> Lucifer: not for ivantis
06:05 <Lucifer> it took several months to get the grind and the defensive teams going
06:05 <Lucifer> I made a lot of enemies doing it :)
06:05  * ivantis removes channel operator status from Luke-Jr
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06:07 <Lucifer> So if you run a 4-man defense, they'll attack with 5-6 people, which a 4-man defense can hold off almost indefinitely, if not defeat completely. Meanwhile, you're sending 3 guys into their backfield against only 2 defenders, usually just one, which they can't hold off  <--- I took a lot of shit on the grid for that :)
06:07 <ivantis> #stepon Luke-Jr's toe
06:07 <ivantis> noob
06:08 <Concord> this is 8-man teams or so?
06:08 <Concord> it does make for a slow game :)
06:08 <Lucifer> I've seen too many players get in the fortress by themselves, slow down and do radiator coils, and lose the zone when the team comes to fortify it. <--- hahahahaha
06:08 <Lucifer> do people still do that?
06:09 <Concord> not in real matches,
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b %ivantis!*@*] by Luke-Jr
06:09 <Concord> its not too common
06:09 <Concord> the culture is different
06:09 <Concord> less individual now, I think
06:09 <Concord> which makes sense
06:12 <Concord> people are just starting to experiment again
06:12 <Concord> the good teams, anyway
06:13 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: a typo
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06:14 <Lucifer> yeah, the hardcore individualists got run out the more organized the game got
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06:14 <Concord> theres fewer of them today than ever, I'd say
06:14 <Lucifer> If you're going to punch a hole, make sure you leave a long enough straight wall that people can ride in on it.  <--- this isn't true anymore
06:15 <Concord> we've gotten very good at holing
06:15 <Concord> and using accidental ones, of course :)
06:15 <Lucifer> but, afaik, I'm the first person to ever go between a player's cycle and his receding wall that he was following
06:15 <Concord> to cut the defense?
06:15 <Lucifer> it happened long before fortress, before z-man's return, even
06:15 <@Luke-Jr> Lucifer: in fortress, I aim for the center lane ;)
06:15 <Lucifer> it was ultimately used to cut the defense :)
06:15 <@Luke-Jr> and go right past all the enemy defenses
06:16 <Lucifer> I think Yaza had boxed me in, and I was following the inside of my wall, then switched to follow the outside
06:16 <Lucifer> he didn't see the switch
06:16 <Lucifer> so I started accelerating like mad, passed his cycle, then cut him off
06:16 <Lucifer> Locutus was watching, and was speechless :)
06:16 <Lucifer> it had never been seen before, and afaik, wasn't seen again until fortress was invented
06:16 <Concord> :)
06:16 <Concord> I'm looking for that thread
06:17 <Lucifer> the cutoff happened at 70 units of velocity
06:17 <@Luke-Jr> pfft 70
06:17 <Lucifer> so it was pretty high speed :)
06:17 <Concord> I know 0.2.8_beta2 (september 05) had fort
06:17 <Concord> but that 0.2.8_beta1 (august) did not
06:17 <Lucifer> I'll give a hint, it came in during the late beta stage
06:19 <@Luke-Jr> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/cancercompromise/
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06:26 <Lucifer> This is where attackers need to have talent. :) So if you're talentless, become a torpedo.   <----  :)
06:30 <Concord> I can't find anything referencing it before oct 20, but it was in the game before that
06:30 <@Luke-Jr> isn't this lack of ivantis talking nice?
06:33 <Concord> oct 18, rather
06:33 <Concord> and the cvs test was around oct 13 at earliest
06:34 <Concord> Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:14 pm Kamp: The fortress is a server that cropped up a couple of days ago
06:37 <Concord> btw
06:37 <Concord> is score_die_teammate and score_kill_teammate still around?
06:38 <Concord> got it
06:39 <Concord> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2458&p=33767
06:39 <Concord> I think
06:41 <Concord> Lucifer: ?
06:41 <Lucifer> no, that's not it, that's joda's team features thread
06:43 <Lucifer> now I'm looking, because I don't remember where it is :)
06:44 <@Luke-Jr> Lucifer: should I leave ivantis quieted?
06:44 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o ljrbot] by Luke-Jr
06:44 <Lucifer> he's looking like he needs to be slapped around a bit, again.  *sigh*
06:44 <Concord> its probably in this: http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1885
06:45 <Lucifer> heh, found meriton's thread
06:45 <Lucifer> no, it was a new thread, to be kept separate
06:47 <Concord> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1612?
06:48 <Concord> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1612&start=90
06:48 <Concord> more specifically
06:48 <Concord> perhaps
06:51 <Concord> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2514
06:51 <Concord> earliest mention so far: oct 15
06:52 <Concord> first fort server: oct 16
06:52 <Concord> "Lucifer will be happy, maze generator will appear and clans will finally be able to insult each other's parentage in capture the flag style matches. We will be that close to a perfect world"
06:52 <Concord> phillippeqc
06:52 <Concord> thats still not it though
06:53 <Lucifer> that last one is the work discussion thread
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07:00 <Concord> I've looked at every z-man post between 20 october and 1 september
07:00 <Concord> could it be on another site
07:07 <Lucifer> found it
07:07 <Lucifer> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2476
07:08 <Lucifer> see, I had an advantage over you, because I knew roughly what the first post in the thread said :)
07:10 <Lucifer> Concord: ping :)
07:10 <Concord> pong?
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07:12 <Lucifer> I linked you to the thread I sent you to find
07:13 <Lucifer> I'll grab a smoke while you read that thread, then if you're really curious, tell you how I got to starting it
07:18 <Concord> reading that thread is the only thing keeping me awake right now
07:18 <Concord> talk tomorrow
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07:22 <Lucifer> heh
07:22  * Lucifer decides to go post his thoughts while he has them
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09:48 <Lucifer> well, that's an unequivocal signal
09:48 <Lucifer> "Dave, just ask me on a date"
09:48 <Lucifer> how can I refuse?
09:49 <@Luke-Jr> wtf?
09:52 <Lucifer> friend of mine
09:52 <Lucifer> on facebook, she was wondering where are the REAL MEN are
09:53 <Lucifer> I told her we've only got imaginary men, but I can rationalize a denominator and integrate by parts
09:53 <Lucifer> then I said "Wait, not to be sexist, where are the REAL WOMEN?"
09:53 <Lucifer> and she said "Dave, just ask me on a date"
09:54 <@Luke-Jr> ………
09:54 <@Luke-Jr> Lucifer: Yandere?
09:54 <Lucifer> I don't even know if she's hot, we met in a divorce support group, heh ;)
09:54 <Lucifer> um, in a bit, I'm cooking dinner
09:54 <Lucifer> I can play when it's done and I'm eating dinner
09:54 <@Luke-Jr> I'm probably going to bed in a bit
09:54 <@Luke-Jr> :þ
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10:55 <Lucifer_arma> yippee
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> my desktop is back :)
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11:58 <Lucifer> never
11:58 <Lucifer> ever
11:59 <Lucifer> jack yourself off using the same hand that held the jalapenos you cut up for dinner
12:09 <MrBougo> whoa
12:10 <MrBougo> you sure know how to spice up your sexual life
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14:07 <madmax> luke-jr's drone has op :o
14:09 <epsy> the other bots have elected him
14:13 <madmax> bot uprising?
14:14 <madmax> we're screwed
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14:33 <PinkTomato> #help
14:33 <armabot> PinkTomato: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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16:00 <madmax> the bot uprising is kind of lame
16:06 <ct|kyle> .slap ljrbot
16:06  * tronner slaps ljrbot around with the open sourced comic book
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16:46 <dlh> #tea
16:46 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
16:49 <akira_arma> .si fort
16:49 <akira_arma> #si fort
16:49 <tronner> akira_arma: timed out
16:49 <armabot> akira_arma: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (7/14): axocme, Gnezdozilla, Player 1, Sascha, TrT~RyDeN, `WwMoNk, °ß$°| 2L33P|NG
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18:29 <epsy> huh
18:39 <PinkTomato> ?
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19:28 <Luke-Jr> ]admin ignore add *!*@bas1-toronto42-1279729438.dsl.bell.ca
19:29 <ljrbot> Luke-Jr: The operation succeeded.
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19:34 <PinkTomato> Long response. Luke-Jr: some of this text looks familar ;)? http://www.lagtest.net/wwhosting/
19:40 <Luke-Jr> PinkTomato: indeed
19:42 <PinkTomato> ah thought so.
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19:56 <CodeBlock> what setting in the dedicated server config disable teams?
19:57 <CodeBlock> disables*
19:57 <madmax> #as#as
19:57 <PinkTomato> There are a few
19:57 <madmax> er
19:57 <madmax> #as
19:57 <armabot> madmax: This data is 47 seconds old; Wild West  =Sumo= (14/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), |FA| Black Tar! (8/16), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (7/16), WILDCAT (6/8), Fortress Café (6/32), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), $tronners->racing (5/10), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (5/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (1 more message)
19:57  * CodeBlock stabs his keyboard
19:57 <PinkTomato> TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 1
19:57 <PinkTomato> ]cfg NAME_TEAM
19:57 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: Error: "cfg" is not a valid command.
19:57 <PinkTomato> #cfg NAME_TEAM
19:57 <armabot> PinkTomato: NAME_TEAM_AFTER_PLAYER_1: If set, the team is named after the leading player (default: 0) || NAME_TEAM_AFTER_PLAYER_2: If set, the team is named after the leading player (default: 0) || NAME_TEAM_AFTER_PLAYER_3: If set, the team is named after the leading player (default: 0) || NAME_TEAM_AFTER_PLAYER_4: If set, the team is named after the leading player (default: 0)
19:58 <PinkTomato> and there is a few others you need.
19:58 <PinkTomato> I think.
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19:59 <duckinator> is there a way to, if you're a server admin, override someone being automatically banned? lol
20:00 <CodeBlock> hey duckinator
20:00 <PinkTomato> duckinator, in what way?
20:00 <PinkTomato> were they banned?
20:00 <duckinator> PinkTomato: as in get rid of the ban :P
20:00 <duckinator> yea
20:00 <PinkTomato> ]cfg UNBAN
20:00 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: Error: "cfg" is not a valid command.
20:00 <PinkTomato> #cfg UNBAN
20:00 <armabot> PinkTomato: UNBAN_IP: Revokes the ban of the specified IP address. (default: )
20:00 <PinkTomato> there is an UNBAN user as well
20:00 <PinkTomato> .cfg3 BAN
20:02 <duckinator> you can also restart the server :P
20:02 <PinkTomato> That will work too. I'm unaware of a function to restart server
20:02 <PinkTomato> duckinator, what server do you host?
20:03 <duckinator> PinkTomato: i dont host it, my friend Ricky hosts the one at ebtron.ath.x :P ("EighthBit Dedicated")
20:03 <PinkTomato> ooo
20:05 <PinkTomato> .cfg3 team
20:05 <PinkTomato> tronner, cfg3 team
20:05 <PinkTomato> CodeBlock, any luck with the team thing?
20:06 <PinkTomato> ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_COLOR 0 I think is the other thing you need.
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20:19 <CodeBlock> PinkTomato: yeah it worked :)
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20:31 <Concord> need some help re: server, sty in particular
20:32 <PinkTomato> what part of sty?
20:36 <Concord> hold the flag, I already have a working sty server
20:37 <PinkTomato> not seen a full HTF server
20:38 <Concord> I may have just solved my problem
20:46 <Concord> how do you end a local server? btw, my lan shows 5 right now.
20:46 <CodeBlock> going back to duckinator's question, how do you unban yourself if you're the admin of a server, and it bans you :S
20:46 <CodeBlock> just restart it i guess? :S
20:47 <ct|kyle> CodeBlock: UNBAN_IP in everytime.cfg
20:47 <PinkTomato> CodeBlock, you have to enter UNBAN_IP in the terminal window of the armagetronad-dedicated process
20:47 <PinkTomato> or restart the server if practical
20:47 <PinkTomato> everytime.cfg is a nice solution
20:48 <ct|kyle> ya I think that is simplest one :)
20:48 <ct|kyle> in var or config folder
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21:14 <Vanhayes> .si fort
21:14 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (19/32): .×] Hoax, .×] Liza (Liza@x/member), .x] SageLord (SageLord@forums), 11, 1200, 2020, °BS°|kbblak, ctt~orly?, CT_emphasis, madmax, Pez, pike, sp.dubs, szopin, `WwRudy, ~*DelTa*~, ~*dEmOnIk*~, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~AshitakA
21:15 <Vanhayes> #quote add<Lucifer> never
21:15 <Vanhayes> , ever
21:15 <Vanhayes> , jack yourself off using the same hand that held the jalapenos you cut up for dinner
21:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: '<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">\n\n\t<head>\n\t\t<script type="text/javascript" src="jquery-1.3.2.js"></script>\n\t\t<script type="text/javascript">\n\t\t\t$(document).ready(\n\t\t\t\tfunction(){\n\t\t\t\t\tvar licznik = (3 more messages)
21:15 <Vanhayes> er
21:15 <Vanhayes> that was weird
21:16 <Vanhayes> #quote add <Lucifer> Never, ever, jack yourself off using the same hand that held the jalapenos you cut up for dinner
21:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:17 <Vanhayes> #quote add <Lucifer> Never, ever, jack yourself off using the same hand that held the jalapenos you cut up for dinner
21:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.  Quote #93 added.
21:17 <Vanhayes> I think it is quote worthy anyway
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22:15 <Bananobot> ]y force luke-jr Lamperi
22:15 <ljrbot> luke-jr: I don't recognize that command.
22:15 <Bananobot> Darn
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22:24 <sunny___> mega fort partyyyyyyyyy
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22:53 <sinewav> is that mega-fort party still going on? I hate hearing about a party I can't attend... :(
22:54 <sunny___> yes party on mega fort
22:54 <sunny___> + skype
22:54 <sunny___> do u have skype?
22:55 <sunny___> atm we are 8 people
22:56 <sinewav> I'm at work, I can't play or talk. I was just jealous, that's all.
22:57 <sinewav> I used to play at work, but some people got mad at me
22:57 <sinewav> so I got rid of arma
22:57 <sunny___> oh
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