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--- Day changed Mon Mar 23 2009
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00:08 <madmax> .tea
00:08 <tronner> madmax: timed out
00:08 <madmax> :-o
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00:27  * nsh22 is back
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00:30 <nsh22> fondants finnaly done
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00:38 <Rajinn> oi!
00:38 <nsh22> ohai!
00:38 <Rajinn> #seen ct|kyle
00:38 <nsh22> try ]
00:38 <nsh22> ]seen ct|kyle
00:38 <ljrbot> nsh22: ct|kyle was last seen in #armagetron 20 hours, 29 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <ct|kyle> heh
00:42 <Rajinn> does anyone know if it's possible to create a team sumo, where each member of the team is put into a different circle?  Like when you start one member is in circle one, while you are in circle two, possible or not?
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00:58 <ct|kyle> Rajinn: yes it is
00:59 <ct|kyle> Rajinn: subspawn points in sty+ct (I'm not sure if wrtlprnft ported it to main branch)
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01:03 <ct|kyle> oi smoothice
01:03 <smoothice> hi ct|kyle
01:09 <nsh22> luke-jr: what is the commnd on your vps for showing the directories
01:09 <ct|kyle> LOL
01:11 <nsh22> ct|kyle: would you happen to know the debian command?>
01:11 <ct|kyle> ls
01:12 <ct|kyle> .google search linux commands
01:12 <tronner> ct|kyle: bash commands - Linux MAN Pages: <http://www.ss64.com/bash/>; Linux and UNIX find command help: <http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ufind.htm>; Unix/Linux "find" Command Tutorial: <http://www.hccfl.edu/pollock/Unix/FindCmd.htm>
01:13 <Rajinn> yo kyle!
01:14 <ct|kyle> oi Rajinn
01:14 <Rajinn> oiiiii
01:14 <Rajinn> guess who i bee
01:14 <Rajinn> :D
01:14 <Rajinn> you know it!
01:14 <Rajinn> so be it
01:14 <Rajinn> :P
01:14 <ct|kyle> that was what I was guessing
01:14 <Rajinn> OK OK OK soooooooooooo this is possible?
01:14 <ct|kyle> ya
01:14 <Rajinn> where is the download for that version?
01:14 <luke-jr> ………..
01:14 <luke-jr> wtf r u talking about
01:14 <Rajinn> LUKE IS A JR OF HIMSELF
01:15 <Rajinn> diff spawn points in sumo
01:15 <ct|kyle> <spawn (whatever junk goes here)> <spawn (other place)/> </spawn>
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01:15 <Rajinn> team sumo, but your teamate spawns in a diff circle than you
01:15 <nsh22> luke-jr: you talkin to me or him?
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01:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: I'm ignoring your stupid question. because it is stupid.
01:15 <Rajinn> wb sir tank
01:15 <Rajinn> hahah
01:15 <nsh22> ok, next time just tell me plz :P
01:15 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft added in to sty+ct
01:16 <Rajinn> ohhh so its updated!
01:16 <Rajinn> hooray!
01:16 <ct|kyle> you have to use the sty dtd
01:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: then it wouldn't be ignoring, would it?
01:16 <Rajinn> the wha?
01:16 <Rajinn> dtd?
01:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: don't you mean the sty+ct DTD?
01:16 <nsh22> luke-jr: if you told me it was dumb id leave you alone and google it myself :P
01:16 <ct|kyle> no just the sty one has it
01:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: try Google first
01:16 <Rajinn> whats DTD mean?  DEATH TO DOH DOH'S!
01:17 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: why does vanilla sty DTD have it if vanilla sty code doesn't support it?
01:17 <luke-jr> Rajinn: Doc Type Def
01:17 <Rajinn> oh my
01:17 <smoothice> wtf is vanilla?
01:17 <Rajinn> that sounds crazy
01:17 <Rajinn> por favor
01:17 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ask wrtl http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/658
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01:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: sty DTD doesn't have it
01:18 <Rajinn> hold up, that link you just posted looks wild!
01:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: spank wrtlprnft for modifying an existing resource
01:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: and in teh meantime, fix your codebase by renaming it
01:18 <Rajinn> is it easy kyle to make others spawn in another zone?
01:19 <luke-jr> #]later tell wrtlprnft http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/658 -- BAD modifying existing resource w/o changing version :O
01:19 <luke-jr> should I? :p
01:20 <luke-jr> I wonder if he realizes how that breaks things :x
01:20 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: actually
01:20 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: when he originally added it he put it in the sty+ct one
01:20 <luke-jr> …
01:21 <ct|kyle> so it is just a matter of reverting that back
01:21 <luke-jr> it really shouldn't be under AATeam either
01:22 <luke-jr> should be under groundpig or Your_mom or CT
01:22 <luke-jr> hah
01:22 <luke-jr> it was
01:22 <luke-jr> until z-man moved it
01:22 <luke-jr> wonder if z-man meant to imply it was an official DTD
01:22 <ct|kyle> heh
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01:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: voodoo needs spanking too
01:23 <luke-jr> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/577'
01:23 <luke-jr> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/577
01:23 <luke-jr> tho wrtlprnft seems to have reverted that
01:23 <luke-jr> go figure
01:23 <luke-jr> O.o
01:24 <ct|kyle> so I was the only smart one that added a new one LOL
01:24 <Rajinn> yesh you are generally smart ol smart one
01:24 <ct|kyle> although I put it in aaTeam
01:25 <luke-jr> well, I guess the AATeam "problem" gets fixed when we merge support for them
01:26 <ct|kyle> but I know some people depend on that dtd so really can't move it now on them
01:26 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: ?
01:26 <nsh22> luke-jr: umm i tried the cp thing and i got this: `omiting directory blah blah blah
01:26 <ct|kyle> map-
01:26 <luke-jr> oh
01:26 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: the _pig2 one is the only real problem AFAIK
01:26 <luke-jr> because it will break stuff
01:26 <ct|kyle> ya
01:27 <luke-jr> eg, Player 1 connects to a vanilla sty server, gets original DTD
01:27 <luke-jr> then tries to play on CT server referencing the modified DTD
01:27 <luke-jr> = error
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01:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: I did say -a
01:27 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: it has been reverted back though
01:27 <nsh22> ah ty
01:27 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: good ☺
01:27 <ct|kyle> <!ATTLIST Zone effect (win | death | fortress | ball | flag) "death" >
01:27 <luke-jr> now any such error will be consistent
01:27 <luke-jr> eg, always error, not randomly
01:28 <nsh22> wewt it worked
01:28 <luke-jr> random error is worse than consistent error
01:28 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: how hard do you think chat filters will be to add
01:28 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wtf is that
01:28 <ct|kyle> like being able to filter out chat like Fuck replaced by ****
01:29 <luke-jr> probably won't be hard
01:29 <luke-jr> but we're still working on sty ;)
01:29 <ct|kyle> I know
01:30 <ct|kyle> but I know a lot of people would probably be happy with that too, and I don't think it would be too hard to do
01:30 <luke-jr> make a branch :p
01:31 <ct|kyle> I know
01:31 <nniveus> hellooooooooo
01:31 <ct|kyle> I also want to backport it to sty+ct for now until sty+ct is done in v2
01:31 <ct|kyle> should be almost the same though
01:32 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: do trunk first
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01:35 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I'll do them at same time, probably so close to the same code
01:35 <nniveus> #armatwgetron?
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01:38 <luke-jr> …
01:38 <luke-jr> nniveus: #anime for yandere
01:38 <nniveus> ~_~
01:38 <nniveus> #anime for no uhhh...no ;(
01:40 <nsh22> luke-jr: i typed in --enable-hosting and it didnt work
01:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: I am NOT repeating the earlier conversation over
01:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: go read your logs
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01:57 <nniveus> mm back
01:57 <nniveus> lol that's the way to go luke, scare everyone off irc ;)
02:08 <luke-jr> nniveus: he spent 6 minutes playing a game in #anime before leaving
02:08 <luke-jr> :o
02:12 <nniveus> now there's no way im entering
02:17 <noob13> HI!
02:17 <noob13> #tea
02:17 <noob13> .tea
02:17 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:17 <noob13> armabot still lost in the webz?
02:18 <noob13> .servers
02:18 <tronner> noob13: This data is 8 seconds old; Wild West  =Tag Team Sumo= (12/8), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (9/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (9/14), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (9/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (8/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), ***** [ICP] =Nano CTF= ***** (7/10), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), -=}ID< (1 more message)
02:19 <nniveus> noob13 :)
02:19 <noob13> pff, gotta stop the sub and force them to play fortress ;P
02:19 <noob13> hey nniveus!
02:20 <nniveus> what sub?
02:20 <noob13> the yellow sub :P
02:20 <noob13> .ys
02:20 <tronner> noob13: The YELLOW Submarine0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (11/12): Alex, cunt, Data Storm, flower, HighlanderPT, LiTtLe RuDeS, LOSER, N3W4NG3Lu$, Player 0, PoCho, SoNa
02:20 <luke-jr> .help ys
02:20 <tronner> luke-jr: (ys <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverdetails yellow submarine".
02:20 <nniveus> lol
02:20 <luke-jr> .help servers
02:20 <tronner> luke-jr: (servers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch".
02:20 <luke-jr> ]servers
02:20 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "servers" is not a valid command.
02:20 <luke-jr> ]alias add servers "fetch"
02:20 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:20 <luke-jr> ]lock servers
02:20 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <luke-jr> ]help serverdetails
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: There is no command "serverdetails".
02:21 <luke-jr> ]help sd
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (sd <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
02:21 <luke-jr> ]alias add serverdetails "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9"
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <luke-jr> ]alias add sd serverdetails
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <luke-jr> ]lock sd
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <luke-jr> ]lock serverdetails
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <nniveus> noob are you playing in coming ladle?
02:21 <luke-jr> pwnt u tronner
02:22 <noob13> nniveus, call me 13, no need for formalities.. :P
02:22 <noob13> anyway, i'd like to
02:22 <noob13> haven't got a team yet, though
02:23 <nniveus> lol since when is noob formal? but alright if you prefer 13 ._.
02:24 <noob13> its kinda like saying "sir" from where i come from..
02:24 <noob13> nah just kidding, there're so many noob this and that around..
02:25 <noob13> so i get easily confused if people refer to them all as "noob"
02:25 <nniveus> aside from you i can't tell any others apart :x
02:26 <noob13> there's NOOB_saibot and crazy NOOB to mention a few more
02:26 <noob13> then there're the ones with numbers..
02:27 <noob13> they're confusing, i admit
02:27 <noob13> are you playing the ladle nniveus?
02:28 <noob13> maybe i should ask pike if he's getting a second team together again
02:28 <nniveus> lol
02:28 <nniveus> i can't, not till i get my new graphic card
02:28 <nniveus> looking for a nvidia one
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02:29 <noob13> aha, have you already chosen one?
02:29 <noob13> hi Concord
02:29 <Concord> hi
02:29 <nniveus> ladle matches are too large, make my fps drop like nothing else :)
02:29 <noob13> i think i have about the same card as you..
02:29 <nniveus> no, asking a friend to help me out
02:30 <nniveus> really? that intel chipset thing? :/
02:30 <nniveus> hey conc :)
02:30 <noob13> the graphics on it aren't spectacular, but i get ~100 fps even on full servers
02:30 <nniveus> with vista? i don't think so
02:31 <noob13> no, on ubuntu..
02:31 <nniveus> there you go xD
02:31 <noob13> that shouldn't make that much difference
02:32 <noob13> i got an intel x4500 or whatever..
02:32 <noob13> i recall yours was about the same
02:32 <nniveus> hm then i don't know what the problem is. anything more than 10 players in a server makes my fps drop to about 20-30
02:32 <nniveus> and the coming ladle is 6v6 yes?
02:32 <noob13> so they say
02:33 <nniveus> should be interesting, i'll probably be on spec :)
02:33 <luke-jr> nniveus: nVidia sucks
02:34 <nniveus> you're alive :>
02:34 <Concord> nniveus you should probably play ;)
02:34 <luke-jr> Intel FTW
02:34 <nniveus> um no
02:34 <nniveus> intel fml
02:34 <nniveus> concord lol
02:34 <luke-jr> Intel > nVidia
02:35 <noob13> how so, luke-jr?
02:35 <noob13> doesn't it in fact perform way worse?
02:35 <luke-jr> no, way better
02:35 <luke-jr> nVidia is 2D only on Linux
02:35 <noob13> orly?
02:35 <luke-jr> yup
02:35 <nniveus> lol
02:35 <luke-jr> Intel is the best supported chipset on Linux
02:36 <nniveus> i am no on linux
02:36 <nniveus> afaik ._.
02:36 <luke-jr> tho ATi is catching up
02:36 <luke-jr> nniveus: you should be
02:36 <nniveus> not*
02:36 <nniveus> well i am not luke >: ( lol
02:36 <luke-jr> then I guess you don't get the next version of Armagetron
02:36 <luke-jr> we're dropping Windows supprot
02:36 <noob13> seriously?
02:36 <nniveus> lawl
02:37 <noob13> is it too much to maintain?
02:37 <luke-jr> noob13: I'm exaggerating ☺
02:37 <luke-jr> and yes it is
02:37 <nniveus> you can't drop windows support =_=;
02:37 <noob13> that wouldn't be the smartest move in terms of popularity
02:37 <luke-jr> nniveus: can so
02:37 <luke-jr> nniveus: not a single developer uses Windows
02:38 <nniveus> can't say the same about players though :)
02:38 <luke-jr> but players don'
02:38 <luke-jr> but players don't make the calls
02:38 <nniveus> count?
02:38 <nniveus> lol!
02:38 <nniveus> i suppose not
02:39 <nniveus> but i got the impression that most use windows
02:39 <luke-jr> if so, less than 70% I bet
02:39 <nniveus> more than 70% i bet
02:39 <luke-jr> virtually every Linux user knows Armagetron
02:39 <noob13> whats this about CMake epsy posted about? would it partially ease the pain of continuing support for windows?
02:39 <luke-jr> can't say that about Windows
02:39 <luke-jr> noob13: doubt it
02:39 <luke-jr> the problem is Windows
02:39 <luke-jr> in general
02:40 <luke-jr> is difficult
02:40 <luke-jr> Linux is easy to use
02:40 <luke-jr> Windows is far too hard
02:40 <nniveus> ever read the blue nowhere?
02:40 <luke-jr> no
02:40 <noob13> nor have i
02:40 <nniveus> not related to topic at all, just wondering ;)
02:41 <noob13> did you see the finale of battlestar galactica?
02:41 <luke-jr> wtf is that
02:41 <noob13> just wondering ;P
02:41 <noob13> i sense sarcasm, luke-jr..
02:41 <luke-jr> where?
02:41 <noob13> or do u really now know the series? :P
02:42 <nniveus> luke has his pms right now, be gentle ;(
02:42 <noob13> the new one, there was an old one with about the same plot
02:42 <nniveus> no, i don't know the series : P
02:42 <noob13> :O
02:42 <luke-jr> ……..
02:42 <luke-jr> never heard of it?
02:42 <noob13> its only about the best sci-fi series in history :P
02:42 <nniveus> nope nada no nein non
02:42 <luke-jr> no wai
02:43 <nniveus> lol
02:43 <luke-jr> can't be better than Noein!
02:43 <nniveus> the best sci-fi in history huh :o
02:43 <luke-jr> oh
02:43 <luke-jr> and "best sci-fi in history" is already taken
02:43 <nniveus> i read sci-fi, watching sci-fi sucks
02:43 <luke-jr> and awarded etc
02:44 <nniveus> and only michael crichton at that
02:44 <luke-jr> best sci-fi in history is officially
02:44 <luke-jr> the Foundation series
02:44 <noob13> hm, haven't heard of that
02:44 <luke-jr> epic fail!
02:45 <nniveus> lol um who knows that series? : P
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02:45 <luke-jr> any serious sci-fi fan
02:45 <luke-jr> "The series is highly acclaimed, winning the one-time Hugo Award for "Best All-Time Series" in 1966."
02:45 <nniveus> but i never claim to be, so i'm off the hook :)
02:46 <noob13> that was long before my time ;P
02:46 <nniveus> are you 13?
02:46 <luke-jr> "Foundation was originally a series of eight short stories published in Astounding Magazine between May 1942 and January 1950."
02:46 <noob13> :P
02:46 <nniveus> i totallly understand if you don't want to answer ;( lol
02:47 <noob13> heh, how old would you guess i am..
02:47 <noob13> ?
02:47 <luke-jr> 39
02:47 <nniveus> hm
02:47 <noob13> :D
02:47 <nniveus> below 20
02:48 <nniveus> where is conc? just said hi and left?
02:48 <noob13> how much below?
02:48 <noob13> :P
02:48 <noob13> you're both in the wrong, i am 23..
02:49 <nniveus> ah i fail :/
02:49 <luke-jr> I, Robot
02:49 <luke-jr> is cronologically the first book in the Foundation series
02:49 <nniveus> luke stop ranting about foundation! there is such a thing called google
02:49 <nniveus> : P
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02:49 <nniveus> ehh sry noob about my guess
02:49 <nniveus> i suck at guessing anyway so don't feel too bad
02:50 <noob13> heh, your guess was better than luke's ;P
02:50 <luke-jr> The Bicentennial Man is the 5th book in the series
02:50 <nniveus> wow omg
02:50 <nniveus> what was the 6th called called?!?!?!?!?!?!
02:50 <nniveus> book called*
02:50 <luke-jr> The Caves of Steel
02:50 <nniveus> the 7th?!?!?!?!
02:51 <luke-jr> The Naked Sun
02:51 <nniveus> 8th?!?!?!!
02:51 <noob13> O_O
02:51 <luke-jr> The Robots of Dawn
02:51 <nniveus> jesus how many are there >_>
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02:51 <luke-jr> 25
02:51  * BabyBug fondles nniveus 
02:51 <nniveus> .......
02:51 <noob13> heh
02:51 <nniveus> oh hey baby :)
02:51 <BabyBug> ^^ Hey
02:51 <nniveus> good thing i asked before going on
02:51 <luke-jr> spanning about 50,000 years
02:52 <noob13> what happened in those years?
02:53 <nniveus> are you serious noob?
02:53 <nniveus> WHY would you ask that >_>
02:53 <noob13> :D
02:53  * nniveus shakes noob awake
02:53 <nniveus> sry
02:53 <nniveus> 13*
02:53 <luke-jr> I, Robot; The Complete Robot; Robot Dreams; Robot Visions; The Positronic Man; The Caves of Steel; The Naked Sun; The Robots of Dawn; Robots and Empire; The Stars, Like Dust; The Currents of Space; Pebble in the Sky; Prelude to Foundation; Forward the Foundation; Foundation; Foundation and Empire; Second Foundation; Foundation's Edge; Foundation and Earth
02:54 <noob13> and then..?
02:54 <luke-jr> noob13: first, man settled about 10 planets
02:54 <nniveus> luke please don't ;_;
02:54 <noob13> and then..?
02:54 <luke-jr> the men on those planets developed technology to live ~400 years
02:54 <nniveus> fml
02:54 <luke-jr> and grew to despise Earth
02:54 <luke-jr> Earth began settling other planets again
02:55 <luke-jr> the first settlement wanted to stop the "normal" humans, so set Earth's crust to become radioactive
02:55 <noob13> i see, ok.
02:55 <luke-jr> the second group eventually settled the universe, and forgot about Earth
02:55 <noob13> did it have a happy ending?
02:55 <nniveus> lols
02:55 <luke-jr> the universal Empire fell apart and the mathematician Hari Seldon developed the science of psychohistory
02:56 <luke-jr> psychohistory is applying maths to predict the future of mobs
02:56 <nniveus> we need conc and baby here >:( save ussssssssssss
02:56 <luke-jr> he predicted the fall and setup a Foundation at the edge of the universe to maintain science across the dark age that followed
02:56 <noob13> where's the "stop execution" button on luke? anyone?
02:56 <luke-jr> a mutant named the Mule was not accounted for in Hari's predictions, however, and began to screw things up
02:56 <nniveus> you're the one who prompted him to start
02:56 <nniveus> wd 13
02:56 <luke-jr> the Mule could read minds and IIRC manipulate them
02:57  * noob13 slaps self
02:57 <nniveus> now he's gonna go through the 50,000 years of history
02:57 <luke-jr> finally, the unknown Second Foundation stepped in and defeated the Mule
02:57 <nniveus> the ox?
02:57 <luke-jr> the Second Foundation was an organization of people with Mule-like powers (read and manipulate minds) that safeguarded Hari's predictions
02:57 <nniveus> ox-like powers?
02:57 <luke-jr> the First Foundation didn't like being manipulated so they were like WTF OMG
02:58 <nniveus> lol
02:58 <luke-jr> and setup a trap to find the Second Foundation
02:58 <nniveus> i can imagine what luke's bedtime stories to his future children will be like ;)
02:58 <luke-jr> an unknown planet named Gaia hijacked the trap, and put the three powers at an equal battlefield
02:58 <luke-jr> Gaia was a planet where all the beings were linked together
02:58 <noob13> effective, indeed..
02:58 <noob13> ZzzZzz...
02:58 <nniveus> it's like child abuse
02:58 <luke-jr> so the entire planet was effectively one big conciousness
02:59 <luke-jr> I forget how that battle ended.
02:59 <luke-jr> anyhow
02:59 <luke-jr> R. Daneel Olivaw wanted a new brain
02:59 <luke-jr> cuz his old one was getting old
02:59 <luke-jr> but that first human settlement (they lived ~400 years, remember) had almost died off and nobody knew they existed
03:00 <luke-jr> so Daneel hijacked some help to locate Earth and such
03:00 <luke-jr> eventually they found Earth
03:00 <luke-jr> and Daneel got his new brain
03:00 <luke-jr> Daneel is a robot that lives for the whole 50,000 yrs btw
03:00 <luke-jr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Daneel_Olivaw
03:01 <noob13> oh right!
03:01 <noob13> go Daneel!
03:01 <noob13> but seriously luke-jr, you can stop now..
03:01 <luke-jr> I finished.
03:01 <luke-jr> that was the end
03:01 <luke-jr> Olivaw is a Robot built by Roj Nemennuh Sarton and Han Fastolfe, who are Spacer roboticists from the planet Aurora, in the year 5020 AD
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03:08 <nniveus> there are ppl in cafe 13 :)
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04:13 <noob13> What IS the color of the right cycle on the original sourceforge.net project page?
04:13 <noob13> excuse me, can't find it -.-
04:14 <noob13> its either blue or red
04:14 <noob13> will i guess right?
04:14 <noob13> it could be yellow, too
04:14 <noob13> :|
04:15 <BabyBug> http://armagetron.sourceforge.net/ <-- that old one?
04:16 <noob13> apparently! thanks..
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04:39 <BabyBug> =)
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06:03 <Rajinn> hey guys, i am running a server called -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< and it says upgrade needed to ppl that use anything other than .2.8.3beta
06:03 <Rajinn> any idea on what the problem is on that?
06:06 <BabyBug> Rajinn, probably because the server is 2.8.3beta. Older clients can't connect to it.
06:07 <luke-jr> BabyBug: bad logic
06:07 <Rajinn> haha
06:07 <luke-jr> Rajinn: check your log
06:07 <Rajinn> ok
06:07 <BabyBug> Why's that bad logic! How can you even talk about logic when you're a guy
06:07 <BabyBug> pssht
06:08 <Rajinn> Setting CYCLE_TURN_SPEED_FACTOR (Group: Bumpy) deviates from its default value; clients older than 0.2.8_beta2 will not be allowed in.
06:08 <Rajinn> is that the problem?
06:08 <luke-jr> Rajinn: probably not that one
06:08 <Rajinn> oh ...
06:08 <luke-jr> look for one mentioning
06:08 <Rajinn> ok
06:09 <noob13> .tea
06:09 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
06:09 <noob13> :(
06:09 <Rajinn> thats all i see luke
06:13 <luke-jr> any of thsoe set?
06:14 <luke-jr> etc
06:16 <Rajinn> YES!  cycle_boost is set
06:16 <Rajinn> dang nvm, here ill show you the settings
06:17 <Rajinn> http://rafb.net/p/UBP6IQ72.html
06:17 <luke-jr> BabyBug: as if non-guys know what logic is?
06:18 <luke-jr> Rajinn: I'm too lazy
06:18 <luke-jr> Rajinn: ask someoen else later
06:18 <luke-jr> ☺
06:18 <BabyBug> luke-jr, well duh!
06:18 <BabyBug> t
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06:56 <epsy> guru3, you also forgot this: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=19117
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16:21 <nsh22> ohai
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17:31 <epsy> apparently, there _is_ a download feature on youtube videos
17:32 <epsy> http://help.youtube.com/group/youtube-feedback/browse_thread/thread/ebd48776419efa23/d85c4ca86253e321?lnk=gst&q=download
17:38 <Zurd> .tea
17:38 <tronner> Zurd: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): $0$Hupfi, -»|boo, ¦×¦ PlayerNu (PlayerNub@x/member), killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), MobiusPoint, Monkey.D.Luffy, Penguin, stax, SupAflY, The MentalisT, ~th3r0z3r~, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums)
17:41 <epsy> is someone around here used to upload videos on youtube?
17:44 <Zurd> i have uploaded once or twice
17:44 <epsy> are settings shown after the video has been uploaded?
17:44 <Zurd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ_cdZdcu9U\
17:44 <Zurd> was a year ago
17:45 <epsy> are settings shown after the video has been uploaded?
17:46 <Zurd> not that i recall, then
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18:23 <HyperDrive> greatings programs
18:25 <HyperDrive> lol very quiet in here
18:25 <HyperDrive> too quiet for me
18:25 <HyperDrive> bye
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18:26 <MrBougo> eh
18:28 <epsy> fail then
18:28 <epsy> um
18:31  * joda_bot assigns #armagetron channel ping of 3min :-)
18:32 <epsy> you're the one to be pinging 3 mins late
18:32 <epsy> >:)
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18:37 <joda_bot> epsy: I got Norton, I don't respond on pings :-P
18:37 <epsy> your message is scrambled joda_bot
18:39 <epsy> :D
18:41 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: Pong
18:44 <joda_bot> did anyone say anything ?
18:44 <joda_bot> :-P
18:44 <epsy> :D
18:45 <epsy> bool isThisPacketSpam( void ) { return (bool) rand(); }
18:48 <epsy> Word lacks threading
18:49 <epsy> and I don't mean MS Word
18:54 <epsy> wrtlprnft, hi btw :)
18:57 <epsy> [19:58] * [wrtlprnft] inactif  214:49:33, ouverture de session : Mon Mar  2 23:59:35
18:58 <epsy> inactive 214 hours :S
18:58 <epsy> 215 soon
19:18 <BabyBug> can't somebody go there and stab him or something?
19:19 <BabyBug> just with a pencil
19:19 <BabyBug> wake him up
19:19 <BabyBug> right in the ear!
19:19 <epsy> get a flight ticket then :>
19:20 <BabyBug> got his address? :P
19:20 <epsy> hmm
19:20 <epsy> wrtlprnft, what's your address?
19:21 <epsy> wrtlprnft, it's for BabyBug not for me
19:21 <BabyBug> ...
19:21 <epsy> BabyBug, it *may* work!
19:22 <BabyBug> oh rly? What's your address then?
19:22 <BabyBug> and if he answered your question, it would defeat the point of me wanting the address!
19:22 <epsy> stop logics!
19:22 <epsy> everybody knows women shouldn't ever ever do logics!
19:23 <BabyBug> s/women/men/
19:23 <epsy> :)
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19:52 <nsh22> herro everyone
19:52 <BabyBug> go away
19:53 <nsh22> :(, are your serious?
19:53 <nsh22> you*
19:53 <epsy> Lucifer, I just forced you on my clan
19:53 <ct|kyle> .rape BabyBug
19:53 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
19:55 <epsy> @success BabyBug
19:55 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.  BabyBug
19:56 <BabyBug> nsh22, yes, fuck off x)
19:56  * nsh22 fucks off
19:56 <nsh22> lol jkjk
19:56 <epsy> lololol
19:56 <ct|kyle> nsh22: BabyBug is just upset that armabot is not here
19:57 <nsh22> yeah, so she can kick me :P
19:57 <nsh22> or ivanoob
19:57 <ct|kyle> exatly
19:57 <ct|kyle> exactly*
19:57 <ct|kyle> .kick BabyBug
19:58 <epsy> Word gave up replying hehe
19:59 <epsy> or not
20:11 <nsh22> luke-jr: what filetype is SvcConfig?
20:12 <nsh22> i.e. the extension
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20:25 <Lucifer>  /nick epsy|Lucifer
20:25 -!- Lucifer is now known as epsy|Lucifer
20:26  * BabyBug kicks epsy|Lucifer 
20:26  * epsy|Lucifer kicks epsy|BabyBug
20:27 <epsy|Lucifer> wrtlprnft: what happened to armabot?
20:27 <BabyBug> He hasn't spoke in agessss!
20:27 <BabyBug> What makes you think he will now?
20:27 <epsy|Lucifer> he's posted on the forums in the last 24 hours
20:27 <BabyBug> oh
20:27 <BabyBug> well he's not dead then :)
20:28 <epsy|Lucifer> no, he's not :)
20:28 <epsy|Lucifer> although he might get knocked down by an angry clanner that wants to rename people who misuse clan tags
20:28 <BabyBug> eh?
20:28 <epsy|Lucifer> you don't read the forums, do you?
20:28 <BabyBug> No
20:28 <BabyBug> lol
20:29 <epsy|Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=19163&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
20:29 <BabyBug> The forum categorys need re-doing!
20:29 <epsy|Lucifer> nobody pays attention to them anyway
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20:30 <epsy|Lucifer>  /nick epsy epsy|epsy
20:30 <epsy|epsy> haha
20:30 <cpayan> ...
20:30 <epsy|Lucifer> heh, thought you went to bed or something
20:31 <epsy|Lucifer> cpayan: come on, join the epsy clan!
20:31  * cpayan is too confused about this. going to another screen
20:31 <epsy|epsy> we will force you anyway
20:31 <cpayan> oh, the clantag thing
20:31 <epsy|Lucifer> yeah, we hacked freenode to let us change any user's name
20:31 <BabyBug> epsy|Lucifer, I try to pay attention to them! I mean i load the forums, and i've no idea where to look to find things!
20:32 -!- cpayan is now known as {[
20:32 <{[> haha
20:32 <{[> it got mad at me about my crazy clantag
20:32 <epsy|Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/search.php?search_id=newposts
20:32 <epsy|Lucifer> BabyBug: you have to be logged in for that to work, though
20:32 -!- {[ is now known as {[KamP]}cpayan
20:32 <{[KamP]}cpayan> there
20:32 <epsy|Lucifer> nonono, you're supposed to join the epsy clan
20:32 <{[KamP]}cpayan> not as many tildes as I wanted
20:32 <BabyBug> I don't want to view all new posts. I want to be able to find a thread i'm looking for if i'm ever looking for one
20:33 -!- {[KamP]}cpayan is now known as cpayan
20:33 <epsy|Lucifer> BabyBug: most threads aren't worth finding
20:33 <BabyBug> ...
20:33 <dlh> Join the empty-string clan. I'm sporting the clan-tag already.
20:33 <cpayan> BabyBug, I can never remember where the threads I'm following are
20:34 <cpayan> dlh, ever watch Afro Samurai? There was a group called the "Empty Seven" clan. neat show.
20:34 <epsy|Lucifer> I think DWH needs to make an appearance
20:34 <dlh> no, I've never watched it
20:34 <BabyBug> DWH?
20:34 <epsy|Lucifer> Dinosaurs with Hats
20:35 <BabyBug> ...
20:35 <cpayan> What's confusing me is this: why would someone think that some feature tailored entirely to clans and clan members would need to be in the arma core
20:35 <epsy|Lucifer> cpayan: because there's no other place to put it
20:35 <cpayan> sounds like a personal problem
20:35 <BabyBug> And they're probably unaware that the devs hate clans
20:36 <cpayan> They can't tailor their own copy of the server code?
20:36 <epsy|epsy> it's not like I'm not in ¦×¦
20:36 <epsy|Lucifer> you know, we'd probably code stuff for clans, it's not our prejudice against clans that prevents that
20:36 <cpayan> clan fork
20:36 <epsy|epsy> well, part of ¦×¦, so to speak
20:36 <epsy|Lucifer> it's more like we don't see a use for any clan-specific features that have been suggested
20:36 <epsy|epsy> to me it's just that it can already be done
20:36 -!- BabyBug is now known as epsy
20:36 <epsy> yippy!
20:36 <cpayan> haha
20:36 <epsy|epsy> if they are too lazy to do it this way, it's their problem
20:37 <epsy|Lucifer> like this new one, force-renaming of players that are spoofing as a clan member
20:37 <epsy|epsy> epsy, that nick is protected
20:37 <epsy> protected?
20:37 <epsy|epsy> nvm :)
20:37 -!- epsy is now known as Guest99097
20:37 <epsy|epsy> :D
20:37 <Guest99097> :|
20:37 <cpayan> haha
20:37 <Guest99097> :@
20:37 -!- Guest99097 is now known as Lucifer
20:37 <Lucifer> yippy!
20:37 -!- Lucifer is now known as BabyBug
20:37 <BabyBug> I don't trust him not to kick me off :(
20:37 <cpayan> I'm in a library, people, stop this
20:38 <epsy|epsy> what? YOU HAVE TURNED VOICE SYNTH ON?
20:38 <epsy|Lucifer> damn, what's the command to hurt someone who uses my name?
20:38 <cpayan> no, but i'm trying hard not to burst out laughing.
20:38 <BabyBug> /nickserv ghost name password
20:38 <BabyBug> that one?
20:38 <epsy|epsy> oh, and also, Word suggests using a centralized DB, which is just not fine by me
20:38 <epsy|Lucifer> oh right
20:39 <epsy|Lucifer> hey, you changed your name back before I could do it :)
20:39 -!- epsy|Lucifer is now known as Lucifer
20:39 <BabyBug> :)
20:39 <epsy|epsy> but well, I /part'd that thread
20:39 <epsy|epsy>  /whois epsy
20:39 <BabyBug> Just two '/' instead of putting a space before it!
20:39 <Lucifer> that thread has reached the point where the guy doesn't want to back down after we've all shown thoroughly how useless his feature is
20:39 <BabyBug> putting a space before it is wrong!
20:40 <Lucifer>  /kick BabyBug no it isn't!
20:40 <epsy|epsy> :d
20:40 <BabyBug> /kick Lucifer yes it is!
20:40  * Lucifer kicks BabyBug (Is not!)
20:40  * BabyBug kicks Lucifer (Is too!)
20:41  * Lucifer kicks cpayan (for being in a library!)
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20:41 <Lucifer> hah, BabyBug, you didn't see *that* coming!
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20:41 <cpayan> what was that about?
20:42 <BabyBug> Lucifer...
20:42 <epsy|epsy> /kick ftl
20:42 <epsy|epsy> /remove :D
20:42 <cpayan> hehe
20:42 <epsy|epsy> it's awesome, it makes you /part
20:42 <BabyBug> * #armagetron :You need to be a channel operator to do that =(
20:42 <Lucifer> you know, I don't think I could change my name to something that looks like my real name
20:42 <epsy|epsy> and currently no client autorejoins on part
20:42 <epsy|epsy> :d
20:43 <epsy|epsy> daFan!
20:43  * epsy|epsy runs
20:43 <Lucifer> heh
20:43 <Lucifer> I was thinking if I did what nemo did, I'd be dlf, and nobody could tell us apart
20:43 <BabyBug> Dafydd!
20:45  * Lucifer plays arma as "dave" whenever he compiles a fresh client
20:45  * epsy|epsy does as "epsy"
20:45 <epsy|epsy> and people always bother me with stupid questions then
20:45 <cpayan> I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave
20:45 <epsy|epsy> "omg omg have you left ¦×¦ ?"
20:46  * cpayan watched 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time yesterday
20:46 <Lucifer> "Yes, YES!  I Have Left |x|!  Now I'm part of [epsy]!"
20:46  * Lucifer hasn't seen that movie
20:46 <epsy|epsy> it's not like whatever I append to my name makes anything out of me
20:46 -!- Lucifer is now known as dave|Lucifer
20:47 <BabyBug> Dafydd! not dave! :@
20:47 <dave|Lucifer> there, I'm dave OR Lucifer
20:47 <dave|Lucifer> why Dafydd?  What crazy kind of way to spell it is that?
20:47 <epsy|epsy> you forgot parenthesis
20:47 <dave|Lucifer> oh shit, my wheel's here
20:47 <BabyBug> It's Welsh
20:48 <dave|Lucifer> my wheel isn't here
20:48 <BabyBug> ...
20:48 <epsy|epsy> BabyBug doesn't like.
20:49 <dave|Lucifer> does anybody even speak Welsh anymore?  Isn't that a dead language?
20:49 <dave|Lucifer> kinda like Latin....
20:49 <BabyBug> No it freaking isn't
20:49 <epsy|epsy> BabyBug still speaks Welsh
20:50 <epsy|epsy> aaaaaaaand that's it
20:50 <BabyBug> ...
20:50 <epsy|epsy> :)
20:50 <dave|Lucifer> that wouldn't surprise me
20:50 <dave|Lucifer> it's also her first language
20:50 <dave|Lucifer> so she probably just made up some language and calls it Welsh
20:50 <BabyBug> Welsh sounds pretty!
20:51 <dave|Lucifer> I've never heard Welsh spoken
20:51 <dave|Lucifer> most likely because nobody actually speaks it
20:51 <epsy|epsy> just as BabyBug does :D
20:51 <dave|Lucifer> more seriously, I've never heard it spoken :)
20:51 <BabyBug> It looks ugly written. But it sounds pretty
20:51 <BabyBug> As long as the person has a pretty voice
20:51 -!- dave|Lucifer is now known as dave||Lucifer
20:52 <epsy|epsy> nothing matches dave||Lucifer
20:52 <dave||Lucifer> how about if Nena spoke Welsh?
20:52 <BabyBug> uhh
20:52 <BabyBug> who's Nena?
20:52 <epsy|epsy> oo you're red now
20:52 <Vanhayes> welsh accent sounds like british accent right?
20:52 <dave||Lucifer> Nena is the only person who's ever made German sound pretty
20:52 <BabyBug> NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T!
20:52 <Vanhayes> you sure?
20:52 <cpayan> hm
20:52 <dave||Lucifer> heh
20:52 <dave||Lucifer> doesn't welsh sound just like british?
20:52 <BabyBug> no!!!
20:53 <Vanhayes> ya i heard that too
20:53 <cpayan> All those islanders sound the same.
20:53 <epsy|epsy> guess so
20:53 <BabyBug> ...
20:53 <dave||Lucifer> didn't welsh develop in the east end of london?
20:53 <cpayan> :)
20:53 <BabyBug> whores, cunts, fagends
20:53 <Vanhayes> got kicked out for being too bitish i think
20:53  * cpayan never heard of that last one
20:53 <Vanhayes> british*
20:53 <epsy|epsy> /part #armagetron Ragequit.
20:53 <dave||Lucifer> kept putting on the damn red shirts and parading around
20:54 <dave||Lucifer> hey, isn't there some guy who's got a hypothesis that King Arthur was a welsh king?
20:54 <epsy|epsy> having that as default part/quit message really forces you to never ragequit
20:55 <cpayan> listening to some guy speaking welsh
20:55 <cpayan> not that nice sounding at all, really
20:55 <Vanhayes> does it sound british?
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20:56 <BabyBug> cpayan, well duh, it's a guy
20:56 <cpayan> sounds like a german hippy
20:56 <Vanhayes> ha
20:56 <epsy|epsy> if you ask BabyBug to record her voice, she will tell you it's mature content
20:56 <BabyBug> I don't have a mic
20:56 <Vanhayes> depends on wehat she says
20:56 <cpayan> there are no videos of women speaking welsh
20:57 <epsy|epsy> she will
20:57 <cpayan> ergo, there are no women in Wales
20:57 <Vanhayes> good logic
20:57 <cpayan> that's how it works, right?
20:57 <BabyBug> cpayan, so we're all hermaphrodites?
20:57 <epsy|epsy> Hell Yeah!
20:57 <Vanhayes> better logic
20:57 <cpayan> you're right, there can't be a whole civilization with only one gender.
20:57 <cpayan> Wales doesn't exist
20:57 <dave||Lucifer> maybe the welsh have to import british women
20:58 <dave||Lucifer> they get them as babies and raise them to believe in welsh independence
20:58 <cpayan> haha
20:58 <BabyBug> ...
20:58 <cpayan> teach them some made-up language
20:58 <BabyBug> cpayan, Every language is made up you tard
20:58 <cpayan> fair!
20:58 <dave||Lucifer> welsh men are really just french mimes that got kicked out of France
20:58 <cpayan> but languages of nonexistent places are more imaginary than others.
20:59 <dave||Lucifer> it's really just Klingon spelled with a latin alphabet
20:59 <dave||Lucifer> holy crap, they used to speak welsh in scotland?
20:59 <cpayan> you know, it does kind of sound like that
21:00 <Vanhayes> most of those people are decendants of the celts arent they?
21:00 <dave||Lucifer> er, no, I don't think so
21:00 <dave||Lucifer> iirc, the celts mysteriously died out and were replaced by immigrants
21:02 <cpayan> found a welsh woman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYT87gDUs3A does not sound very nice
21:02 <Vanhayes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language
21:03 <dave||Lucifer> But, in his 2006 book The Origins of the British, revised in 2007, he argued that neither Anglo-Saxons nor Celts had much impact on the genetics of the inhabitants of the British Isles, and that British ancestry mainly traces back to the Palaeolithic Iberian people, now represented by Basques, instead.
21:03 <BabyBug> cpayan, She's not speaking welsh....
21:03 <cpayan> sigh
21:03 <epsy|epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKaoAfJWF0Y&feature=related
21:04 <Vanhayes> well if that wikipedia entry is to be believed only 20%  of you can understand welsh
21:05 <cpayan> epsy|epsy, "passing a robbery scene of a crime" o.O
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21:05 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, it depends where you live in Wales
21:05 <cpayan> anyway, i've done enough kicking around Wales for today. :) BabyBug find some way to make welsh sound nice.
21:05 <Vanhayes> cpayan, i think that was just a welsh woman speaking english
21:06 <BabyBug> cpayan, It already does sound nice
21:06 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, you'd be correct :P
21:06 <cpayan> Vanhayes, it was
21:06 <luke-jr> ]later tell nsh22 SvcConfig's MIME type is probably either text/plain or application/x-sh-script
21:06 <cpayan> BabyBug, [citation needed]
21:06 <cpayan> :)
21:06 <epsy|epsy> haha
21:06 <BabyBug> cpayan, I'm a woman. You're a bloke. So i'm right, you're wrong.
21:06 <BabyBug> Citation provided
21:06 <epsy|epsy> This article looks like an advertisement.
21:07 <dave||Lucifer> well, time for me to go to work, cya
21:07 -!- dave||Lucifer is now known as Lucifer
21:07 <cpayan> BabyBug, [citation needed] again. You would never pass muster on the Mustard article of Wikipedia
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21:14 <luke-jr> O.o
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21:18 <PinkTomato> Well it could be Esperanto
21:18 <PinkTomato> that actually is made up
21:19 <epsy|epsy> of frangloman
21:19 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: so is Korean
21:19 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: ?
21:19 <luke-jr> Korean is made up
21:19 <PinkTomato> since when?
21:19 <luke-jr> since it was made up..
21:20 <Vanhayes> well then so is every other language
21:20 <luke-jr> no
21:20 <cpayan> Since whenever it was made up. At some point every language was made up
21:20 <luke-jr> other languages generally develop over time
21:20 <luke-jr> for Korean, a bunch of Korean (Japanese) guys sat down and designed it
21:20 <cpayan> So they were made by larger groups. Still made up.
21:21 <Vanhayes> that doesnt sound true
21:21 <Vanhayes> that sounds like a crazy luke-jr theory
21:21 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: f u retard
21:21 <luke-jr> Korean didn't exist 100 years ago
21:21  * BabyBug agrees with Vanhayes 
21:22 <cpayan> Then of course, there's dialects. Most languages have tons of dialects that, at some point or another, were stamped on by mass-production of one standard language. Mostly by mass-printing of the Bible.
21:22 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, any proof of your theory?
21:22 <PinkTomato> They spoke Korean during occupation...
21:22 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: if I cared to get some
21:22 <PinkTomato> and before that
21:22 <cpayan> Then again, I'm extrapolating from a few facts that float around in my head, so I could be completely off-base
21:23 <Vanhayes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Korean_language
21:24 <cpayan> :)
21:24 <Vanhayes> it doesnt say it was made up 100 years ago by the japenese btw
21:24 <cpayan> point Vanhayes
21:25 <cpayan> of course, that could have been written by revisionist Korean nationalist groups, trying to deny the Japanese roots of their language.
21:28 <PinkTomato> Korean is too different from Japanese :)
21:29 <luke-jr> ah
21:30 <luke-jr> I guess what I meant was that Hangul was created, and not so recently
21:30 <PinkTomato> Oh the characters were created :)
21:30 <PinkTomato> by "the King"
21:30 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: civ?
21:31 <Vanhayes> nah, gonna make something to eat in a bit
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21:48 <G5> I'm still looking for a ladle team ... if you have any open position (and want me to fill it), send me a private message. (As you may know, DS will not participate.)
21:49 <BabyBug> why wont ds participate?
21:50 <epsy|epsy> heh
21:51 <epsy|epsy> makes me think of the numerous "1v1 dm6 pm" messages you see on quakenet
21:51 <G5> BabyBug: cause DS sucks as a Arma team?
21:52 <BabyBug> Then why are you in the clan? lol
21:52 <epsy|epsy> doodledoo
21:52 <G5> BabyBug: Nice people there. Mostly Arma noobs but nice and friendly
21:52 <epsy|epsy> http://teameventhorizon.com/2008/01/31/event-horizon-3-released
21:53 <epsy|epsy> awesome but looong
21:53 <epsy|epsy> http://www.own3d.tv/watch/1567
21:53 <epsy|epsy> apparently there are additional soundtracks as well
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22:19 <nsh22> hai
22:20 <BabyBug> go away
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22:21 <nsh22> :P
22:22 <cpayan> nsh22, haha
22:23 <nsh22> she told me to go away and i did, but she never said for how long :P
22:23 <Vanhayes> .weather e5n 5c5
22:23 <tronner> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 0.4°C (6:23 PM ADT on March 23, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Steady).
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22:35 <Durka> #hello
22:35 <Durka> anyone home?
22:36 <Vanhayes> #hello
22:36 <Vanhayes> armabot is on vacation
22:36 <Durka> armabot no está aqui
22:36 <Vanhayes> .hello
22:36 <tronner> Hello :) [q]
22:36 <Vanhayes> ]hello
22:36 <Vanhayes> @hello
22:37 <ct|kyle> oi Durka
22:38 <Durka> oi kyle
22:38 <Durka> question
22:38 <Durka> $passwords= array (
22:38 <Durka>         'test' => 'password', // clever choice there, test
22:38 <Durka>         'z-män' => 'passwörd' // test for utf8 usernames and passwords
22:38 <Durka>         );
22:38 <luke-jr> hi Durka
22:38 <Durka> how can i insert things into that array
22:38 <Durka> like from another file, via a script or something
22:38 <luke-jr> Durka: $passwords['key'] = 'value';
22:39 <Durka> whats that
22:41 <luke-jr> the answer to your effing quesiton
22:42 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:42 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): /dev/null/swiss, AbsYntH|NH|, ¦×¦ Hoax, CT_emmy, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Goodygumdrops, juice keeper, noob13 (noob13@forums), orly?, sine.wav, stax, szopin, X30N, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
22:42 <Durka> huh?????
22:42 <Durka> so
22:43 <Durka> $passwords['test'] = "
22:43 <Durka> 'password';
22:43 <Durka> is the same as whats in the array?
22:43 <luke-jr> yes
22:43 <Durka> k
22:43 <Durka> and i can just keep doing it
22:43 <dlh> in the scope of that function it is
22:43 <Durka> like
22:43 <Durka> $passwords['anotheruser'] ="pw";
22:45 <guru3> i have to say this clantag thing
22:45 <guru3> is going in circles
22:45 <dlh> Durka: are you trying to setup a registration system?
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22:46 <cpayan> does anyone know what's up with Swampland Mud Puddle?
22:47 <Durka> dlh: yea i guess
22:47 <Durka> wait no thats stupid
22:48 <Durka> cuz it woudnt be encrypted anyways
22:48 <Durka> nvr mind guys
22:49 <luke-jr> …
22:49 <Durka> lol!
22:50 <luke-jr> Durka: stop dissing
22:50 <Vanhayes> .dict wrong
22:50 <Durka> oO
22:50 <tronner> Vanhayes: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Wrong \Wrong\, obs. imp. of {Wring}. Wrung. --Chaucer. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Wrong \Wrong\, adv. In a wrong manner; not rightly; amiss; morally ill; erroneously; wrongly. [1913 Webster] Ten censure wrong for one that writes amiss. --Pope. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Wrong \Wrong\ (?; 115), v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Wronged}; p. pr. & vb. n. (31 more messages)
22:51 <Vanhayes> wrong doesnt look right
22:51 <luke-jr> does it look left?
22:51 <Vanhayes> pun intended
22:51 <luke-jr> ditto
22:51 <Vanhayes> it looks like it is misspelled
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23:01 <cpayan> is there a thesaurus?
23:01 <cpayan> .thes
23:01 <cpayan> :(
23:02 <cpayan> be cool to have a thesaurus and a rhyming dictionary here. Would never contribute to spam.
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