Log from 2009-02-23:
--- Day changed Mon Feb 23 2009
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00:05 <smoothice> PinkTomato: yep lol
00:15 <z-manuel> luke-jr: no, why?
00:19 <luke-jr> z-manuel: compile errors trying to merge v1v2-fort
00:19 <z-manuel> details?
00:19 <z-manuel> pastebin?
00:20 <luke-jr> tPolynomial::tPolynomial(const tFunction &tf) //!< constructor
00:20 <luke-jr> : referenceVarValue(0.0),
00:20 <luke-jr> coefs(tf.offset_, tf.slope_)
00:20 <luke-jr> I think it's because pre-protobuf had tPolynomial a pure template, so the code was never compiled :/
00:21 <luke-jr> should I strip it or try to fix it?
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00:44 <smoothice> luke-jr: unexpected T_OBJECT_OPERATOR
00:46 <luke-jr> you can't operate on a class directly
00:46 <luke-jr> $foo = new serverinfo();
00:46 <luke-jr> $foo->serverinfo();
00:46 <luke-jr> or whatever
00:46 <smoothice> oh ok
00:47 <armabot> armacommits: [pb-zones-v1v2-fortress] r854 more merging work || [pb-zones-v1v2-fortress] r853 more merging work || [pb-zones-v1v2-fortress] r852 merge fix || [armagetronad-zones-v1v2-fortress] r894 merge fix || [armagetronad-zones-v1v2] r882 fix tFunc->tPoly
00:49 <smoothice> luke-jr: refresh it again
00:49 <smoothice> luke-jr: -.-
00:51 <luke-jr> $foo = new serverinfo($host, $port);
00:52 <luke-jr> ]later tell z-manuel FYI, protobuf adds zlib as a dep
00:52 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
00:53 <smoothice> luke-jr: the function doesn't return anything lol
00:53 <luke-jr> what function?
00:53 <smoothice> serverinfo()
00:53 <luke-jr> that's a constructor, not a function
00:53 <smoothice> function serverinfo($host, $port) {
00:54 <luke-jr> ]later tell z-manuel (and configure does NOT check for it)
00:55 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
00:55 <luke-jr> smoothice: that's a constructor, not a function
00:56 <smoothice> luke-jr: refresh again
00:57 <luke-jr> great
00:59 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I make it echo or print the name using that constructor?
01:00 <smoothice> Oooh
01:00 <smoothice> got it
01:17 <Lucifer> technically constructors return something: a reference to the newly constructed class ;)
01:18 <Lucifer> luke-jr: eh? I thought there was a zlib check already?
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01:23 <smoothice> luke-jr: refresh again (PWNAGE)
01:24 <luke-jr> Fort is down?
01:24 <smoothice> yeah
01:24 <luke-jr> Lucifer: not for headers, at least
01:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: I don't know how to check
01:25 <luke-jr> smoothice: well, Fort is showing a null version..
01:25 <smoothice> yeah
01:25 <smoothice> it's down
01:25 <luke-jr> but I guess it got a name
01:25 <luke-jr> odd
01:25 <Lucifer> hmmm, there is a standard autoconf macro for zlib, iirc
01:25 <luke-jr> or did you put the name?
01:25 <smoothice> it's a manual name
01:25 <smoothice> static
01:25 <luke-jr> i c
01:25 <luke-jr> so now you know how :p
01:25 <smoothice> yep
01:25 <Lucifer> CHECK_ZLIB()
01:25 <Lucifer> just add that to configure.ac :)
01:25 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I don't have write access ;)
01:26 <Lucifer> that would require me to update my branch
01:26 <luke-jr> ../../../src/armagetronad-0.3-v1v2.bzr/src/network/nProtoBuf.cpp:218: error: reference to âReflectionâ is ambiguous
01:26 <Lucifer> hmmm, I do think I have a current trunk branch though
01:26 <luke-jr> wtf is this? :/
01:28 <luke-jr> oh crap
01:29 <luke-jr> I almost tried to mix lenny and etch
01:29 <luke-jr> or rather, I did to some degree :x
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01:38 <Lucifer> well, I'll push the zlib check in a bit, whenever I have all the stuff installed
01:38 <Lucifer> apparently I don't have the stuff I need to build arma right now :(
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01:44 <Lucifer> ok luke-jr (hi there!), I'm pushing to the trunk with a zlib check in configure
01:46 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Concord/pairplay/pairplay-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Concord
01:47 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Concord/pairplay/pairplay-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Concord
01:47 <smoothice> luke-jr: name = 0xcccccc ~0xkk3399Night 0xccccccWalker's 0xkk3399Central0xcccccc~0xkk3399CTFS0xcccccc~:
01:48 <luke-jr> smoothice: ?
01:48 <smoothice> luke-jr: How do I remove the 0xes
01:48 <smoothice> or parse them
01:49 <luke-jr> I believe wrtl's script defines a filtercolors
01:49 <smoothice> ok
01:49 <luke-jr> I believe the aabeta server list also has a HTML conversion routing
01:49 <luke-jr> routine
01:49 <smoothice> k
01:51 <Durka> smoothice: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors
01:51 <Durka> ?
01:51 <armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r795 Added check for zlib || [pb-zones-v1v2-fortress] r855 final merge issues resolved, at least to compilation
01:51 <smoothice> Durka: http://smootharma.ath.cx/serverstatus.php
01:52 <Durka> nice
01:56 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9027 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/ (armagetron-php-client.php serverlist-common.php): convert colour codes a little nicer
01:56 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
01:58 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Concord/pairplay/pairplay-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Concord
02:15 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Concord/pairplay/pairplayhardcoded-0.1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by Concord
02:15 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9028 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: use wrtls PHP client for server list
02:15 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
02:16 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9029 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: use wrtls PHP client for server list
02:16 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
02:17 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9030 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: use wrtls PHP client for server list
02:17 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
02:19 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9031 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: flip num player default sort
02:19 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
02:26 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9032 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: fix </font> algo
02:26 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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02:31 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Concord/pairplay/pairplayhardcoded-0.1.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Concord
02:34 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Concord/pairplay/pairplayhardcoded-0.1.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Concord
02:35 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Concord/pairplay/pairplayhardcoded-0.1.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Concord
02:36 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9033 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: PHP is stupid
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02:38 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://smootharma.ath.cx/serverstatus.php
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02:39 <smoothice> Concord: ready for the ladle:P ?
02:39 <Concord> nope
02:39 <smoothice> :O
02:40 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9034 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: fix various sorting issues
02:40 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
02:43 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9035 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: flip num player default sort
02:43 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
02:48 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Concord/pairplay/pairplayhardcoded-0.1.4.aamap.xml: Resource by Concord
02:48 <Concord> heh
02:50 <luke-jr> Concord: … poke?
02:50 <luke-jr> Concord: where's that development blog?
02:51 <Concord> eh, I was waiting to be activated by tank
02:51 <luke-jr> :p
02:51 <luke-jr> wtf
02:51 <Concord> I suppose I'll just send him something
02:51 <luke-jr> someone's still running 0.2.6.0-c
02:51 <smoothice> Tiger's Network Classic Play
02:52 <Concord> LOL!
02:52 <luke-jr> yeah
02:52 <smoothice> #si -v Tiger's Network Classic Play
02:52 <luke-jr> http://beta.armagetronad.net/serverlist.php?sort=version
02:52 <armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tiger\'s network classic play” at the moment, sorry.
02:52 <luke-jr> #si -v network classic
02:52 <armabot> luke-jr: Tigers Network Classic Play (81.235.164.45:4534) running 0.2.6.0-c, url: http://www.armagetronad.net/, Description: ““, Players (0/16):
02:53 <smoothice> fail
02:54 <luke-jr> u
02:55 <Concord> isn't that tank's server
02:55 <Concord> ?
02:57 <luke-jr> dunno
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03:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: is beta.armagetronad.net lightfoot-ct?
03:06 <luke-jr> no
03:06 <luke-jr> that's the server in the other room
03:06 <smoothice> oh
03:06 <smoothice> ur home server
03:06 <luke-jr> yeah
03:06 <smoothice> cool
03:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: I wish you would update the ~NW DF server to the latest 0.2.8
03:11 <luke-jr> wtf is that
03:11 <smoothice> ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ 0.2.8_alpha20080122 unix dedicated 72.9.158.25:4538
03:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: update it from 0.2.8_alpha20080122 unix dedicated
03:12 <smoothice> -.-
03:12 <luke-jr> why?
03:12 <smoothice> because 0.2.8 these days is much more stable and has been feature implementation
03:12 <smoothice> better
03:13 <Concord> luke: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=203699
03:13 <Concord> funny, because coming from a random player
03:13 <Concord> it would get no consideration ;)
03:13 <Concord> like the idea tho
03:14 <luke-jr> smoothice: 0.2.8 has changed almost naught since then
03:14 <luke-jr> Concord: ?
03:14 <smoothice> luke-jr: -.-
03:16 <Concord> smoothice, whats your opinion of this http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Concord/pairplay/pairplayhardcoded-0.1.4.aamap.xml
03:16 <Concord> note: TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 2
03:16 <Concord> TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS 2
03:17 <luke-jr> Concord: you're going to be on IRC 24/7 now right?
03:17 <Concord> hmm, i don't think so...
03:19 <luke-jr> y
03:19 <Concord> waste of energy
03:19 <Concord> to leave computer on 24/7
03:19 <Concord> and will kill my battery (laptop)
03:20 <luke-jr> uhm
03:20 <luke-jr> plug it in
03:20 <smoothice> The requested URL /Concord/pairplay/pairplayhardcoded-0.1.4.aamap.xml was not found on this server.
03:20 <luke-jr> and even desktop computers use a trivial amount of energy
03:20 <luke-jr> laptops even less
03:21 <Concord> wierd
03:21 <Concord> link works for me
03:21 <smoothice> beta.armagetronad.net is stalled
03:21 <Concord> luke-jr, if I'm not on, whats the point?
03:21 <Concord> I mean not at my computer
03:21 <luke-jr> Concord: so we can beep you
03:21 <luke-jr> smoothice: what
03:22 <Lucifer> I'm tired of working on the account editor, I'm going to work on the ledger now, I think
03:23 <luke-jr> ugh
03:23 <luke-jr> whose idea was it to put settings in maps? ☹
03:23 <smoothice> luke-jr: so 0.2.8-zonesv2 fortress works now does it
03:23 <luke-jr> smoothice: I don't know ☹
03:23 <luke-jr> smoothice: I merged with protobuf
03:23 <luke-jr> and protobuf is broken on Debian 4
03:23 <luke-jr> :/
03:23 <smoothice> I have Ubuntu 8
03:24 <luke-jr> good for you
03:24 <luke-jr> I have Gentoo
03:24 <smoothice> then what's the problem
03:24 <luke-jr> it's on my home computer
03:24 <luke-jr> the server is Debian
03:24 <Concord> luke, theres a version without the settings
03:24 <Lucifer> it was either z-man or phillipeqc that put settings in maps
03:24 <Concord> ~/pairplay-0.0.3.aamap.xml
03:24 <Lucifer> it was done to allow certain things to be configured in the map that belong with the map (like fortress settings)
03:24 <luke-jr> Concord: IMO, settings in maps should only be used for stuff actually relevant to the map
03:25 <luke-jr> not LIMIT_TIME for example
03:25 <luke-jr> nor CYCLE_ACCEL
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03:25 <Lucifer> depends on whether or not you consider a map as representing a game style, or just a map
03:25 <luke-jr> hi Durka
03:25 <Lucifer> I do generally think the map is just a map
03:25 <luke-jr> Lucifer: we could always allow uploading configs to the repository
03:25 <Lucifer> and no place to store settings ;)
03:25 <luke-jr> now that RINCLUDE is around
03:25 <Lucifer> we don't have any way to retrieve them, eh?
03:26 <luke-jr> I think RINCLUDE made 0.2.8.3
03:26 <Lucifer> at least, not automatically
03:26 <Lucifer> oh, RINCLUDE is a remote retrieval thing?
03:26 <luke-jr> resource-include
03:27 <luke-jr> anyone care to write a settings validator to ensure configs fit standard/supported builds? XD
03:27 <Lucifer> heh
03:27 <Lucifer> I'm working on my checkbook program again
03:27 <Lucifer> so, no, not for me, too busy ;)
03:28 <luke-jr> probably should block changing access levels too, but I suspect z-man did something for that in RINCLUDE itself
03:31 <luke-jr> ew
03:31 <luke-jr> Concord broke the resource system or soemthing
03:31 <luke-jr> he has a category 'Fortress' and a category 'fortress' :/
03:33 <ct|kyle> that broke it?
03:33 <luke-jr> well, I don't know
03:33 <luke-jr> IIRC it's case sensitive non-overlapping
03:34 <Lucifer> it's only case sensitive in non-windows environments
03:34 <luke-jr> I mean the resource system in general
03:34 <luke-jr> I suppose he didn't REALLY break it until he uploads a map with the same name to both
03:34 <Lucifer> I don't think so, I think that's something that relies on the filesystem
03:35 <Lucifer> we're probably case-sensitive on any code that compares filepaths in arma
03:35 <Lucifer> I can't imagine anybody here that uses linux allowing case insensitivity in a system that's supposed to hide platform differences
03:35 <luke-jr> that was a decision made to keep compatibility across OS, IIRC
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03:36 <luke-jr> to hide platform differences, we need to ensure both ABC and abc can't coexist as well
03:36 <luke-jr> so while ABC != abc, ABC and abc cannot coexist either
03:37 <Lucifer> I would be in favor of forcing resource names to lower case :)
03:37 <Lucifer> well, maybe not, hmmm
03:37 <luke-jr> that means case insensitive
03:37 <Lucifer> sorry, gotta get back to writing my ledger
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03:43 <luke-jr> what the heck
03:43 <luke-jr> protobuf 2.0.3 isn't backward compat with 2.0.2
03:43 <luke-jr> -.-
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03:54 <luke-jr> smoothice: hi
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03:57 <smoothice> luke-jr: Hi
03:57 <luke-jr> hi
04:04 <luke-jr> who is the dedicated web guy? O.o
04:05 <smoothice> luke-jr: ?
04:06 <luke-jr> come test zv2fort028 w/ me
04:07 <smoothice> k
04:08 <smoothice> It's down?
04:08 <smoothice> ooho
04:08 <smoothice> up
04:08 <luke-jr> grr
04:08 <luke-jr> it won't let me in
04:09 <smoothice> it freezes
04:09 <smoothice> when it says ArmagetronAd plays for Team gold
04:09 <luke-jr> so is protobuf just broken? :/
04:09 <luke-jr> why was it merged?
04:09 <smoothice> who knows
04:27 <luke-jr> gosh, I post "stop spamming me" and I get more spam..
04:27 <ct|kyle> heh luke-jr
04:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you tell me the current CPU usage of NW DF?
04:34 <luke-jr> wtf is NW DF
04:34 <smoothice> A server that you host?
04:34 <smoothice> #si -v ~Night Walker's Central~DF~
04:34 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Infamous/offthegrid-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Infamous
04:34 <armabot> smoothice: ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (72.9.158.25:4538) running 0.2.8_alpha20080122 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “Have fun, no cussing. Hosted by Divine!“, Players (11/16): -=lag=-, -=VcL.AtlaS, -=VcL.Hi, -=VcL.TaZ, .:k, clover, GemZ, Mw|ßçç®, SmOoThice~NW, Uki, Wild
04:35 <smoothice> luke-jr: please?
04:36 <luke-jr> smoothice: are you pulling some kind of DoS?
04:36 <smoothice> #help si
04:36 <armabot> smoothice: (si <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo $*".
04:36 <smoothice> luke-jr: No
04:36 <smoothice> luke-jr: I want to see how much CPU 11 clients takes
04:37 <luke-jr> it's mostly floating < 4 % CPU
04:37 <smoothice> oh ok
04:37 <smoothice> not that high
04:37 <luke-jr> reason I asked about DoS was some 60% jump
04:37 <smoothice> oh
04:37 <smoothice> It wasn't me
04:38 <smoothice> luke-jr: Have you ever gotten DoSed?
04:38 <luke-jr> maybe a complex map?
04:38 <smoothice> this is lms
04:38 <luke-jr> yeah, there was a bug a while back someoen exploited
04:38 <luke-jr> LMS has maps too
04:38 <smoothice> oh
04:38 <smoothice> well
04:38 <smoothice> this is only square
04:39 <luke-jr> floating 0-10% now
04:39 <smoothice> oh ok
04:39 <smoothice> your servers... are they dedicated?
04:39 <smoothice> like not shared with anyone else
04:39 <luke-jr> right
04:40 <smoothice> people buy enough hosting
04:40 <smoothice> to pay for that?
04:40 <luke-jr> unless you count the guy I rent a shell accoutn to
04:40 <luke-jr> for shoutcast
04:40 <luke-jr> not sure
04:40 <luke-jr> haven't counted the numbers recently
04:40 <luke-jr> I pay yearly
04:41 <smoothice> that cheap?
04:41 <smoothice> is that *
04:41 <luke-jr> depends on the definition of cheap :p
04:42 <smoothice> hmm
04:42 <smoothice> what does it cost you/
04:42 <smoothice> ?
04:42 <luke-jr> I don't know.
04:44 <smoothice> lol
04:45 <luke-jr> too many people cancelling -.-
04:45 <luke-jr> that particular server pending cancel in 2 days
04:49 <smoothice> luke-jr: seriously?
04:51 <luke-jr> yeah
04:51 <smoothice> luke-jr: frick
04:51 <smoothice> that's a problem
04:51 <smoothice> ok
04:51 <smoothice> thanks for letting me know
04:52 <luke-jr> actually, looking at it
04:52 <luke-jr> this is the guy who's been cancelling and starting on and off over the past few months XD
04:52 <smoothice> strange
04:53 <luke-jr> economy?
04:53 <smoothice> well if you shut it off then I gotta start it on my server right away
04:53 <luke-jr> <.<
04:53 <luke-jr> Dec '07 to Mar '08
04:54 <smoothice> wait
04:54 <luke-jr> Oct '08 to Nov '08
04:54 <luke-jr> Jan '09 to Feb '09
04:54 <smoothice> pending cancellation as in no payment or the person cancelled it?
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05:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: 0.3.1 has protobuf?
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05:46 <Lucifer> luke-jr: no
05:46 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
05:47 <luke-jr> Lucifer: zlib is only a dep with protobuf..
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05:57 <mib_girola> there is no way we can have those settings luke, i have access to the server via webpage given by the sever owner, i lost the information to access it. - Zurd
05:57 <luke-jr> …
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06:00 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zones-v1v2] r883 remove extra semicolons
06:03 <Lucifer> luke-jr: the dedicated web guy is Lackadaisical
06:04 <luke-jr> o
06:05 <luke-jr> he still exists?
06:05 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
06:20 <Lucifer> GodTodd: hey, do you have a classmates.com account that you can actually send messages with?
06:23 <GodTodd> Lucifer, no
06:23 <GodTodd> why?
06:24 <Lucifer> found someone there I want to talk to, but I don't have a "gold" membership
06:24 <Lucifer> it let me send a message, but won't let me read any replies
06:24 <Lucifer> I suspect they filter email addresses out of messages, so I did what I could to disguise it from scanners
06:24 <GodTodd> hmmm
06:24 <Lucifer> so I guess we'll see, hmmmm
06:24 <GodTodd> that's what i'da done :)
06:24 <Lucifer> your lady still have an account there? ;) (she used her dad's account to email me years ago)
06:25 <GodTodd> yeah...that's how she got ahold of me too...i don't know if he still has that account or not
06:25 <luke-jr> Lucifer: why not just include a phoen number?
06:25 <Lucifer> it's that girl Lorene from my french 2 class
06:25 <luke-jr> using alphabet equivalents
06:25 <luke-jr> ;)
06:25 <Lucifer> luke-jr: didn't consider it, heh
06:25 * Lucifer is an email person
06:26 <Lucifer> she asked me out when we were seniors ('we' being you and me, she's a year older), but I had to turn her down 'cause I was seeing someone else
06:26 <ct|kyle> #seen BabyBug
06:26 <armabot> ct|kyle: BabyBug was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 16 hours, 37 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <BabyBug> \o
06:26 <Lucifer> yeah, BabyBug has disappeared again
06:26 <GodTodd> i don't think i ever met her
06:27 <Lucifer> I don't know if you would have, I knew her in school when we were juniors, and mostly only saw her in that one class
06:27 <Lucifer> until the end of the year when she started flirting a lot, heh
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06:28 <GodTodd> heh
06:28 <Lucifer> she's probably married with a litter of kids now, but she was a good friend I'd like to talk to again
06:28 <GodTodd> have you checked the basic evil networking sites to see if she has one of those profiles?
06:28 <Lucifer> yeah, her name is a little too common
06:29 <GodTodd> should be able to narrow the search by age and such too
06:29 <Lucifer> there's several of her names on classmates, but since they are attached to a high school and graduating year.....
06:29 <Lucifer> she wasn't much of a computer girl, though. So I would be quite surprised if she was on any of the evil social networking sites
06:29 <Lucifer> played the hell out of the piano, she did
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06:30 <GodTodd> hopefully the email masking outwits the filters then
06:30 <GodTodd> heh
06:32 <luke-jr> grr, z-man's zones-v1 compat is only one direction
06:33 <GodTodd> lorene edwards?
06:33 <Lucifer> heh, how'd you guess that? ;)
06:34 <GodTodd> heh...that's just the beginning of my Googling :P
06:34 <Lucifer> oh wait, I gave a first name, heh
06:34 <Lucifer> no surprise then ;)
06:38 <GodTodd> heh...yeah, no real magic
06:41 <Lucifer> how do you use css to force spaces between divs?
06:43 <Lucifer> ah, margin
06:43 <Lucifer> that's the difference between margin and padding, apparently :)
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06:48 <Vanhayes> hello
06:55 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: !
06:56 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: !
06:57 <Vanhayes> hows it going
06:57 <Lucifer> how you been?
06:57 <luke-jr> Lucifer: margin is outside the "box"
06:57 <Lucifer> freeciv? ;)
06:57 <luke-jr> padding is inside the "box"
06:57 <Vanhayes> I dont think i have freeciv on this computer anymore
06:58 <luke-jr> lol
06:58 <Vanhayes> anyways, I dont think i could stay awake for a game, I spent most of last night on a plane
06:58 <Vanhayes> damn oil prices put me out of work in alberta
07:04 <Lucifer> oh no
07:04 <Lucifer> so are you back where you were?
07:04 <Lucifer> (the freeciv question wasn't serious, I'm actually working on something right now)
07:05 <Lucifer> why the hell are my margins unbalanced?
07:05 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: I'm on my own now. divorced. ;)
07:09 <Vanhayes> ya im back in new brunswick now, costs more to make a barrel of oil from tarsands than they can sell it for, so they are shutting down most of the big projects out there, and cutting back on the rest
07:10 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: sorry to here that
07:10 <Vanhayes> unless it was a good thing?
07:12 <Lucifer> it's a good thing
07:12 <Lucifer> woman was fucking crazy
07:13 <Vanhayes> alot of them are
07:14 <Lucifer> she was crazy in that "I can't believe I married her" way
07:16 <Vanhayes> can't say ive seen that kind of crazy first hand yet
07:17 <Vanhayes> how long you been divorced for?
07:17 <Lucifer> so, you working again?
07:17 <Lucifer> divorce was finalized when Obama was elected
07:17 <Lucifer> been separated since the end of August
07:21 <Vanhayes> My flight got in around 11 am saturday and i slept most of the rest of the day, so havent started looking for a job here yet
07:21 <Vanhayes> can probably get on at one of the refineries here doing the same thing, just have to take a pay cut from what im used to in alberta
07:22 <Vanhayes> that province spoiled me
07:23 <Lucifer> less partying, more freeciv, eh?
07:23 <Lucifer> speaking of sleep, I need to get some pretty soon
07:23 * Lucifer is always tired when his kids leave
07:29 <luke-jr> ]later tell z-man special delivery CRAP branch of mine will crash 0.2.8 svn clients
07:29 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
07:30 * luke-jr bets smoothice asks him about the CRAP branch in the next 3 days
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08:06 <armabot> armacommits: [CRAP] r857 hey, this crashes 0.2.8 svn if you try to connect to it twic... || [CRAP] r856 remove extra semicolons
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08:55 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
08:55 <armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
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10:25 <BabyBug> Boo! =x
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11:12 <armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r848 Pushing back legacy code to be only used for protobuf < 2.0....
11:24 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i did not disappear! :@
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11:56 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9036 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nProtoBuf.cpp): Manuel Moos: Pushing back legacy code to be only used for protobuf < 2.0.2.
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17:34 <Lizmatic> bonjour pathetique
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17:58 <Evan_> WOOT
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18:02 <noob13> hi Pathetique
18:02 <Pathetique> Hello :)
18:02 <Pathetique> How are you?
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21:01 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
21:01 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 25.9°F (2:52 PM EST on February 23, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034.4 hPa (Falling).
21:01 <ct|kyle> I figured they would leave out the heavy snow part
21:22 <noob13> #weather helsinki
21:23 <armabot> noob13: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 21.2°F (9:50 PM EET on February 23, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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22:02 <nsh22> hey hey
22:03 <nsh22> luke-jr: <luke-jr> you suck yah that was my bad, my mom had a bitchfest about me being on the comp
22:03 <luke-jr> -.-
22:03 <nsh22> sry bout that
22:04 <nsh22> oooh, you guys got over $190? wd
22:08 <luke-jr> nsh22: I lost because you left.
22:08 <nsh22> ah so you were yandere?
22:08 <nsh22> lol
22:09 <luke-jr> yes
22:09 <nsh22> hah
22:09 <nsh22> i was spies
22:10 <Lizmatic> luke-jr and his yandere
22:10 <luke-jr> nsh22: I know it.
22:10 <luke-jr> and you vanished
22:10 <luke-jr> so I lost
22:10 <luke-jr> I was a cloaked psychic yandere.
22:10 <luke-jr> you were supposed to spy me and see that I looked like a ninja
22:10 <luke-jr> which I claimed
22:12 <nsh22> im too dumb to do that luke, you should know that by now
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22:49 <nsh22> back
22:49 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
22:49 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 16.2°F (4:49 PM EST on February 23, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Rising).
23:01 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Infamous/infa-map-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Infamous
23:02 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Infamous/infa-map2-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Infamous
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23:03 <nsh22> a canadian
23:03 <nsh22> ?
23:03 <Vanhayes> me?
23:04 <nsh22> are you?
23:04 <Vanhayes> I am
23:04 <nsh22> same:)
23:04 <nsh22> i saw you had rogers (from your logoin info)lol
23:04 <Vanhayes> im buried under over a foot of fresh snow, so i must be canadian
23:04 <nsh22> where did you get a foot aof snow?
23:04 <Vanhayes> /msg NickServ identify <jl1012>
23:05 <nsh22> ontario?
23:05 <Vanhayes> ha
23:05 <Vanhayes> woops
23:05 <Vanhayes> new brunswick
23:05 <nsh22> oooh
23:05 <Vanhayes> and the snow came from the sky
23:05 <nsh22> omg really? ;P
23:06 <Vanhayes> I think so, it gets kind of hard to see further than a few feet up, but im assuming its coming from up there
23:07 <nsh22> ah
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23:38 <noob13> #tea
23:38 <armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): /dev/null/Free, /dev/null/swiss, >[xDr]<, Green Bobin, hand
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