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Log from 2009-02-20:
--- Day changed Fri Feb 20 2009
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00:15 <smoothice> Does anyone here know what armagetron configuration files are loaded automatically? (dedicated server)
00:15 <epsy> config/settings_custom.cfg
00:15 <epsy> config/server_info.cfg
00:15 <epsy> config/autoexec.cfg
00:16 <epsy> config/everytime.cfg
00:16 <epsy> var/autoexec.cfg
00:16 <epsy> var/everytime.cfg
00:16 <epsy> avoid using the last two unless it's really dynamic data
00:16 <smoothice> ok
00:16 <smoothice> Only reason is I'm making a Wild Sty server
00:20 <epsy> I don't see the relation but well, hf
00:20 <smoothice> lol
00:20 <smoothice> You'll see :P
00:27 <epsy> ok
00:31 <smoothice> It'll pwn the world when its up
00:31 <smoothice> #seen ct|kyle
00:31 <armabot> smoothice: ct|kyle was last seen in #armagetron 5 hours, 48 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <ct|kyle> epsy: then find it :P
00:31 <epsy> holy shit
00:31 <smoothice> ????
00:31 <epsy> nothing, it's so impressive indeed
00:32 <smoothice> yes
00:32 <smoothice> It will pwn the world as you know it
00:32 <epsy> I don't even know what it is
00:32 <smoothice> Je suis fatigue
00:32 <smoothice> Suis-je fatigue?
00:33 <epsy> Je suis fatigay
00:33 <smoothice> Lol
00:33 <smoothice> Presenting
00:33 <smoothice> WILD STY
00:33 <smoothice> OWNAGE!
00:33 <smoothice> lol
00:33 <epsy> but smoothice is fatigay
00:34 <smoothice> :(
00:34 <smoothice> :'(
00:34 <smoothice> epsy is mean :(
00:35 <smoothice> how dare thou epsy hurt thy smoothice
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00:36 <PinkTomato> what's a HighFive Server?
00:36 <animuson> a server that gives u a high five of course :P
00:36 <smoothice> a server that high fives people when they stop by
00:36 <smoothice> yeah
00:36 <smoothice> lol
00:38 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9023 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. config/subcultures.srv): Manuel Moos: Corrected competition master subculture.
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00:39 <animuson> ok so how do i set up my own authentication thing?
00:39 <smoothice> It's called armathenication
00:39 <animuson> :P
00:40 <smoothice> code.launchpad.net/armagetronad
00:40 <PinkTomato> USE @FORUMS
00:40 <PinkTomato> ^_^
00:40 <animuson> way to spell it wrong
00:40 <smoothice> uh
00:40 <smoothice> no?
00:40 <smoothice> yeah
00:40 <smoothice> GLOBAL_ID 1
00:40 <animuson> u spelt it armathenication
00:40 <epsy> animuson, use forums, but the search feature
00:40 <smoothice> USER_LEVEL smoothice@forums 0
00:40 <smoothice> add that to config
00:40 <epsy> @help forums
00:40 <teabot> epsy: (forums <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google site:forums.armagetronad.net $*".
00:40 <smoothice> It makes the server run better
00:40 <animuson> slol
00:40 <epsy> @forums http-auth-server
00:40 <teabot> epsy: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18777 - Armagetron Forums :: View topic - http-auth-server 0.1_beta1
00:41 <epsy> here you go
00:41 <epsy> if it's not documented enough, then it's a bug
00:41 <PinkTomato> animuson: Are you making a public authority?
00:41 <smoothice> epsy: so lets say you are running an arma server under CTF configuration. Then if I include HTF settings will it become HTF or will the settings be messed up? I want to make a multimode server but I don't know how to handle the configuration
00:41 <PinkTomato> smoothice: INCLUDE settings.cfg before using new settings is what I use
00:42 <smoothice> but
00:42 <PinkTomato> You need to add the sty settings to the file
00:42 <smoothice> settings.cfg doesn't include stuff like shot_thresh
00:42 <smoothice> yeah
00:42 <epsy> well, many configs assume server was set on default settings before inclusion
00:42 <epsy> so you might get surprises
00:42 <epsy> best is to beta-test it
00:42 <smoothice> yeah
00:42 <smoothice> I don't know since Wild West manages to do it
00:42 <smoothice> Pretty well
00:43 <smoothice> #seen Destiny
00:43 <armabot> smoothice: I have not seen Destiny.
00:43 <smoothice> #seen Manta
00:43 <armabot> smoothice: Manta was last seen in #armagetron 10 weeks, 2 days, 22 hours, 12 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Manta> I'll enable that,
00:43 <smoothice> ...
00:43 <smoothice> nevermind then
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00:52 <smoothice> epsy: going from ctfs to fortress is going to be a toughy lol
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00:53 <epsy> the one I know the best is sumo -> fortress
00:54 <epsy> I should fix that in the default config files
00:54 <smoothice> What are the changes?
00:55 <epsy> #cfg game_
00:55 <armabot> epsy: GAME_TIMEOUT: Base timeout for game state synchronisation; gives appoximately the maximum time between rounds. (default: 10) || GAME_TYPE: Type of game played. 0 for freestyle, 1 for last team standing and 2 for humans vs. AIs. (default: 1) || SP_GAME_TYPE: Type of game played in single player mode. 0 for freestyle, 1 for last team standing and 2 for humans vs. AIs. (default: 1)
00:55 <epsy> GAME_TYPE 1
00:55 <smoothice> 1 for fortress
00:55 <smoothice> 0 for sumo?
00:56 <epsy> 0 -> do not declare a winner
00:56 <epsy> 1 -> declare a winner
00:56 <epsy> that's the sole difference
00:56 <smoothice> what does 2 do?
00:56 <epsy> ...
00:56 <smoothice> ?
00:57 <epsy> while the first two need explanation, I really doubt the help text is unclear on 2
00:57 <smoothice> ok w/e
00:57 <epsy> anyway, this cfg entry is confusing and wrongly named IMO
01:09 <smoothice> #cfg2 finish_type
01:09 <armabot> smoothice: FINISH_TYPE: What happens when the last human is dead? || SP_FINISH_TYPE: What happens when the last human is dead in single player mode?
01:09 <smoothice> #cfg finish_Type
01:09 <armabot> smoothice: FINISH_TYPE: What happens when the last human is dead? (default: 1) || SP_FINISH_TYPE: What happens when the last human is dead in single player mode? (default: 1)
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01:16 <PinkTomato> #quote smoothice
01:16 <armabot> PinkTomato: They both savoured the strange warm glow of being much more ignorant than ordinary people, who were only ignorant of ordinary things. -- Discworld scientists at work (Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites)
01:16 <PinkTomato> #q PinkTomato
01:16 <armabot> PinkTomato: Quote #8: "master your own mind, otherwise the game will destroy you -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:27 PM, March 29, 2006)
01:17 <smoothice> ok
01:17 <smoothice> lol
01:29 <smoothice> #help cfg
01:29 <armabot> smoothice: (cfg <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaconfig @1".
01:29 <smoothice> #help armaconfig
01:29 <armabot> smoothice: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
01:30 <smoothice> epsy|phone: what does ball_wall_mod do?
01:31 <epsy|phone> How did you know I was looking?
01:32 <epsy|phone> And I don't know much about the sty stuff
01:34 <epsy|phone> #whoami
01:34 <armabot> epsy|phone: epsy
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02:22 <luke-jr> Concord's offer sounds sweet, but not quite ideal for the main webpage
02:23 <luke-jr> if we can automate Windows nightlies again, that would complement weekly reports from Concord nicely
02:24 <x4b> when i am at server browser it says score bias.  what is that?
02:24 <sinewav> luke, how could I help with the repository? Is it something I could/should handle?
02:24 <luke-jr> sinewav: can you handle verifying identities and setting passwords on an Apache htpasswd file? ☺
02:25 <sinewav> I'll teah myself and get back to you.
02:25 <sinewav> teach*
02:26 <luke-jr> :/
02:26 <luke-jr> ok, talk to you in 15 min?
02:26 <smoothice> epsy|phone: my round-based multi mode server is epic failing
02:27 <sinewav> reading now...
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03:00 <Sk3L3TOn> hello..i need help with the commands
03:00 <Sk3L3TOn> THe CONSOLE commands
03:01 <sinewav> what kind of help?
03:01 <Sk3L3TOn> well im not sure on how to put them in
03:01 <sinewav> in where? a cfg file? your local client?
03:02 <Sk3L3TOn> local client
03:02 <sinewav> do you have a key bound for console commands?
03:02 <Sk3L3TOn> wat is the...lol
03:02 <Sk3L3TOn> that*
03:03 <sinewav> I'll take that as a no. Ok listen....
03:03 <Sk3L3TOn> im listening
03:03 <sinewav> Open Arma and follow the path System Setup > Global Keyboard ...
03:04 <sinewav> The first entry is console input
03:04 <Sk3L3TOn> ok
03:04 <sinewav> that is the key you need to press, or chose a new one.
03:04 <sinewav> tell me when you are reday.
03:04 <Sk3L3TOn> i put in a key to press
03:05 <sinewav> sure, if the default key doesn't suit you. I use "end"
03:05 <Sk3L3TOn> ok
03:05 <sinewav> Now start a local game
03:05 <Sk3L3TOn> ok i did that
03:05 <sinewav> press your console key, and you get a prompt
03:05 <sinewav> That's where you type the commads
03:06 <Sk3L3TOn> ok "CON:"
03:06 <sinewav> yes. try cycle_rubber 2
03:06 <Sk3L3TOn> ok
03:06 <sinewav> watch your rubber change
03:06 <Sk3L3TOn> yess it did
03:06 <sinewav> got it?
03:06 <sinewav> here is a list of console commands you might try....
03:06 <sinewav> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Console_Commands
03:06 <Sk3L3TOn> ok
03:07 <sinewav> goold luck
03:07 <sinewav> good*
03:07 <Sk3L3TOn> how do you ban someone
03:07 <sinewav> haha, needs to be done on the server
03:07 <sinewav> you need admin privilages
03:07 <Sk3L3TOn> ok...wat if i am the admin/host
03:08 <sinewav> if you are logged in as admin on a server you would type "/admin ban <player>"
03:08 <Sk3L3TOn> ok
03:08 <Sk3L3TOn> do you have to put the <> for player
03:08 <sinewav> you might want to add a time limit, such as "/admin ban greg 1000'
03:09 <sinewav> `no
03:09 <Sk3L3TOn> ok
03:09 <sinewav> 1000 would be minutes (less than a day)
03:09 <Sk3L3TOn> ok
03:09 <Sk3L3TOn> and the default kick...lol
03:09 <sinewav> you can put a message after also, /admin ban greg 9999999 you're a jerk, don't come back
03:10 <sinewav> got it?
03:10 <Sk3L3TOn> yup...one problem.. it says "/admin unknown"
03:11 <sinewav> did you login?
03:11 <Sk3L3TOn> AS HOST
03:11 <sinewav> is this a lan game?
03:12 <Sk3L3TOn> nope online..but i started the server
03:12 <sinewav> and you can't login?
03:12 <sinewav> as admin?
03:13 <Sk3L3TOn> nope theres no login
03:13 <sinewav> you need to type /login <password>
03:13 <sinewav> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Remote_Moderation
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03:15 <Sk3L3TOn> thanks..lol...but it wont let me login..."srry bout all this, but im new to the game"
03:15 <sinewav> your computer is the host?
03:16 <Sk3L3TOn> yes
03:16 <sinewav> Hmm, I've never done it but maybe try this...
03:16 <sinewav> in your console, type ADMIN_PASS <a password>
03:17 <sinewav> Then try to login with "/login <pass>"
03:17 <Sk3L3TOn> yeah the first one workrd..
03:18 <sinewav> remember <this> means add something there
03:18 <Sk3L3TOn> i did it sayed it changed the password
03:18 <Sk3L3TOn> but still no login
03:19 <sinewav> and you can't use /kick?
03:19 <Sk3L3TOn> it says /kick is unknown
03:20 <sinewav> Hmm, sorry. I've never run a lan game before. Anyone else listening to this?
03:20 <smoothice> yes
03:20 <sinewav> any suggestions?
03:20 <smoothice> Running a LAN game can be screwy sometimes
03:20 <Sk3L3TOn> are we talking about version 2.8
03:20 <smoothice> try TRUST_LAN 1
03:21 <smoothice> and/or GLOBAL_ID and use your forums account to login
03:22 <Sk3L3TOn> it says unknown
03:22 <smoothice> for which command?
03:22 <Sk3L3TOn> for trust_lan 1
03:22 <smoothice> oh
03:22 <smoothice> nevermind on that then
03:24 <Sk3L3TOn> ok
03:24 <smoothice> Sk3L3TOn: Is this running on localhost or another machine on LAN?
03:25 <Sk3L3TOn> localhost
03:25 <smoothice> oh
03:25 <smoothice> hmmm
03:25 <smoothice> I've never gotten that to work either :D
03:26 <sinewav> no! haha
03:26 <sinewav> sorry skelly
03:26 <smoothice> Can you just enter commands into the console directly?
03:26 <sinewav> didn't work
03:26 <smoothice> :O?
03:26 <smoothice> It should work with stdin
03:28 <Sk3L3TOn> can you get a list of persons ip adresses
03:28 <sinewav> type /players
03:30 <Sk3L3TOn> on chat or concosle
03:30 <sinewav> type in chat, not console, sorry.
03:30 <sinewav> should give a list
03:32 <Sk3L3TOn> nope
03:33 <sinewav> hmm. I wish I could help, I don't have experience with hosting a game from my client. sorry! Anyone else have a clue?
03:33 <sinewav> anyone?
03:33 <Sk3L3TOn> well thts ok....thanks for the help
03:34 <sinewav> try searching the forum
03:34 <Sk3L3TOn> ok
03:34 <sinewav> http://forums.armagetronad.net/index.php
03:34 <Sk3L3TOn> peace out
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06:32 <BabyBug> *yawn* Good morning!
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07:07 <BabyBug> z-manuel, did you commit a fix for bug 331362 to the trunk aswell or...? =x
07:07 <teabot> Launchpad bug 331362 in armagetronad/0.2.8 "DOUBLEBIND_TIME checked when chatting..." [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331362
07:08 <z-manuel> No, but it'll be merged there in the next couple of days.
07:08 <BabyBug> oh, okies ^^
07:08 <BabyBug> ty =D
07:11 <Lucifer> hey babybug
07:11 <BabyBug> Hey luci =)
07:11 <Lucifer> are you interested in working with php at all?
07:14 <BabyBug> always been interested in working with it, better know practically nothing about it, and haven't had the reason to learn it properly yet.
07:14 <luke-jr> TWG is PHP
07:14 <BabyBug> s/better/but i/
07:14 <BabyBug> *still needs to wake up*
07:15 <Lucifer> heh
07:15 <Lucifer> I could use some help with this php app I'm working on
07:15 <Lucifer> that's why I ask :)
07:15 <Lucifer> it's not terribly difficult if you've already done some python, but it's also not terribly fun help I'm looking for
07:15 <Lucifer> it's not an arma-oriented app, either
07:15 <BabyBug> What's the app do?
07:15 <Lucifer> it will be my next entrepreneurial venture
07:16 <Lucifer> web-based home finance management
07:16 <Lucifer> the idea is that by being web-based, a user can use it anywhere
07:16 <Lucifer> the most obvious place that is useful is on a cell phone, so it'll ultimately need to work on small web browsers
07:17 <Lucifer> I've looked pretty hard for good web-based home finance software and haven't found it, so it looks like a niche that hasn't been tapped
07:17 <BabyBug> oo nice, sounds like a good idea if done right aswell =)
07:17 <Lucifer> if you're interested in helping, your payment is your experience with php :)
07:17 <BabyBug> sure i'm interested. Nothing better to do lately anywhoo.
07:17 <Lucifer> that's all I can offer right now, heh ;)
07:18 <Lucifer> I need someone to write an admin interface, to manage users, and to make the permissions system
07:18 <Lucifer> I've almost got it ready to start allowing logins, it would be helpful to have someone do the essentially grunt work on the admin interface while I go off and work on the actual home finance management stuff
07:19  * Lucifer knows exactly how he wants the home finance stuff to work since he's been working on it for several years as a desktop app
07:26 <Lucifer> anyway, if you want to help out, you need an apache installation with working php5, and mysql
07:26 <Lucifer> bazaar, of course, and I have to create a shell account for you on my server to get at the repository
07:31 <BabyBug> sorry, baby called ^^ But sure, i'll help out =)
07:33 <Lucifer> ok, go make sure you've got apache+php5+mysql running ;)
07:34 <Lucifer> I just cracked through and got logins working, now I'm excited again ;)
07:34 <BabyBug> Installing them now ^^
07:34 <luke-jr> I know that I haven't found anything that does half of what I want
07:35 <luke-jr> I also know that I want something more complicated than I can conceive of in my mind. ;)
07:35 <BabyBug> lies...Anything's conceivable....eventually =x
07:36 <luke-jr> the implementation details, I mean
07:37 <luke-jr> I want to be able to see/record transactions with "real" time/date, "effective" date, "post" date, including also details such as moving money between accounts to get to the destination, as well as whether it draws from X category of the budget
07:38 <luke-jr> with budget categories like allowances being a formula $ per month
07:38 <luke-jr> based on the prior month's income minus expenses
07:39 <Lucifer> double-entry accounting provides everything except budget categories as a formula $ per month (etc)
07:40 <Lucifer> what you're wanting is called "Accrual-based accounting", where expences are recorded when they are incurred, not when they are paid
07:40 <Lucifer> so you have a special account, type Liability, generally called "Accounts payable" for such expenses
07:40 <luke-jr> ah, but I want to record them when paid as well ;)
07:40 <Lucifer> when the expense is incurred, you debit liability and credit the appropriate expense (I'm not done yet, hang in there)
07:40 <Lucifer> but home users don't want to look at some nebulous "Accounts payable" that only shows a total of all that they owe
07:41 <Lucifer> they want to know to whom it is owed, and what the breakdown is
07:41 <Lucifer> fancy code could be written, but what I want to do instead is either mirror the expenses branch under Accounts Payable,
07:41 <Lucifer> or create a branch under Accounts Payable that the user defines, where each leaf represents a particular vendor
07:41 <Lucifer> like electricity, water, insurance, etc.
07:41 <luke-jr> I want all the details to be a single transaction though ☺
07:41 <Lucifer> so you would have expenses that itemize electricity, water, and sewage
07:42 <Lucifer> but most people pay for that as a package from one vendor, Joe's Utility Service or somesuch
07:42 <luke-jr> rly?
07:42 <Lucifer> you can't have it as a single transaction, it's two separate transactions
07:42 <Lucifer> one for when the bill is received, and one for when you pay the bill
07:43 <Lucifer> so you'd have an A/P account called "Joe's Utility Service" (if that is the name of your utility company), and several expense accounts for the line items (water, electricity, sewage)
07:43 <luke-jr> so I'd want to see bills instead of transactions ;)
07:43 <Lucifer> I'd like the program to automate that
07:43 <luke-jr> and viewing details of the bill, when it was received, due, and paid
07:43 <Lucifer> you're asking for a particular interface
07:43 <Lucifer> I'd like to record line items for bills too.  :)
07:44 <Lucifer> there would be some extra metadata that goes with it, but that can be handled in the property system
07:44 <Lucifer> the fundamentals for what you want are already in my head, and the implementation details are known, just not implemented
07:45 <Lucifer> hell, I just got logins to work, there is no accounting database yet
07:45 <Lucifer> I need to make the permissions table and move on, heh ;)
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08:11 <Lucifer> hmmm, now I need an xml parser
08:11  * Lucifer wonders if php5 ships with an xml parser
08:11 <wrtlprnft> #join #armagetron-0.3-sty 
08:12 <Lucifer> grrr, it's only a sax parser
08:12  * Lucifer wants a dom parser
08:14 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's what annoyed me
08:14 <wrtlprnft> there is another one, look for it
08:14 <wrtlprnft> a sort of dom parser
08:17 <Lucifer> found it, DOMDocument
08:23 <Lizmatic> I thought you said 'dom partner'
08:23 <Lucifer> #ping
08:23 <armabot> pong
08:23 <Lucifer> #ping
08:23 <armabot> pong
08:23 <wrtlprnft> | .
08:23 <wrtlprnft> |    .
08:24 <Lucifer>      .     |
08:24 <Lucifer>      . |
08:24 <Lucifer>       .     |
08:24 <wrtlprnft> |   .
08:24 <wrtlprnft> |.
08:24 <wrtlprnft> |      .
08:24 <Lizmatic> combo breaker
08:24 <Lucifer>               .
08:24 <Lucifer>                  .=
08:24 <Lucifer>            = .
08:24 <Lucifer> you win
08:24 <wrtlprnft> |.|
08:25 <Lucifer> I needed to know: if I shut down knetworkmanager, will it disconnect my wireless?
08:25 <Lucifer> the answer is "no"  :)
08:25 <Lucifer> knetworkmanager, kate, and firefox all appear to leak memory
08:26 <Lucifer> at least, if you leave them running, over time they will each consume all available memory
08:35 <Lucifer> ok, time to cook dinner
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09:09 <BabyBug> Has anyone else noticed that trunk can't connect to clients? or is it just me? =x
09:09 <BabyBug> servers*
09:10 <epsy> trunk or trunk-events ?
09:10 <BabyBug> trunk
09:11 <epsy> can't connect to but only to more recent servers?
09:11 <BabyBug> correct
09:12 <epsy> meh, that's what it takes to have so much servers on unstable
09:12 <BabyBug> ...
09:12 <epsy> post a bug, I'll confirm
09:13 <BabyBug> kk
09:13 <epsy> happens since protobuf?
09:13 <BabyBug> Very recent, so i'm guessing so
09:13 <BabyBug> My internets really slow atm, otherwise i'd revert to just before the protobuf merge and try that
09:14 <BabyBug> oh wait, that doesn't use the internet does it? ^^
09:14 <epsy> well, I can connect fine with something before pb
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09:31 <BabyBug> epsy, hrmph yup, started right after protobuf was merged in..
09:31 <epsy> indeeeed
09:31 <epsy> whoops
09:31 <BabyBug> O.o
09:31 <epsy> bug nr ?
09:31 <BabyBug> bug 331940
09:31 <teabot> Launchpad bug 331940 in armagetronad "trunk can't to connect to servers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331940
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09:51 <epsy> I just found an awesome thunderbird bug
09:53 <BabyBug> i don't think i share your enthusiasm in that discovery O.o
09:53 <epsy> go to your inbox, and press g
09:54 <epsy> have one of the tips closed
09:54 <epsy> on it's line, click where the "Read" column is
10:00 <BabyBug> I prefer the Evolution bug better. Go Edit > Preferences > Seg Fault =)
10:30 <armabot> lpbugs: [331940] trunk can't connect to servers <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/331940>
10:37 <BabyBug> Why is that mile stoned for 0.3.1? O.o
10:56 <epsy> protobuf is in for .3.1 isn't it?
11:00 <BabyBug> it is? :s
11:08 <epsy> I heard
11:09 <epsy> better ask Lucifer about it
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11:49 <epsy> http://www.quakelive.com/
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18:43 <RoterBaron> Hey
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18:58  * wrtlprnft loves suspend/linux
18:59 <wrtlprnft> for some reason it will limit my ram to half its usual size after resuming
18:59 <wrtlprnft> or at least it'll only use half of it for apps, the rest for buffers
19:00 <wrtlprnft> so i effectively have 1G of free ram while my system is trashing away
19:00 <luke-jr> …
19:03 <wrtlprnft> ^…^
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19:04 <RoterBaron> hi guys can some1 help me?
19:04 <wrtlprnft> if you help be get back my 1G ram…
19:05 <epsy> RoterBaron, don't ask to ask, just ask
19:11 <RoterBaron> nvm i alrdy posted it in forums
19:13 <epsy>  /admin include fort.cfg
19:13 <epsy>  /admin include fort.cfg
19:13 <epsy>  /admin include teamsumo.cfg
19:13 <epsy> there are others, they are pretty much the same than those listed in /help votes
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19:31 <epsy> it's funny how half our applicants decline their own applications after some tests :P
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19:47 <Lizmatic> lol epsy
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21:46 <guru3> /dev/sdc5             688G  659G  855M 100% /home
21:46 <guru3> crap
21:48 <epsy> welcome to the club
21:49 <ct|kyle> heh guru3, that is always fun :)
21:49 <guru3> 852 now
21:49 <guru3> something is eating it
21:49 <guru3> D:
21:49 <epsy> especially when your WM tries to write to disk every 5 seconds
21:51 <ct|kyle> does updatedb take a lot or memory when it is full (or is it just my hard drive crashing)
21:52 <guru3> i don't think it uses that much
21:54 <guru3> http://careers.asce.org/jobdetail.cfm?job=3072529
21:54 <ct|kyle> must be my hard drive, maybe someday before it crashes i'll have time to fix it
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22:02 <guru3> 850M :S
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22:36 <epsy> guru3, look for easy targets
22:36 <epsy> chat logs and stuff
22:37 <guru3> i already went through and compressed all my old armagetron dev environments the last time this happened
22:37 <guru3> saved around 5G that way
22:37 <guru3> but that's a good idea
22:38 <epsy> don't tell me it's the kappy that runs forums
22:38 <epsy> lappy *
22:38 <guru3> not at all
22:39 <epsy> phew
22:39 <guru3> forums is on proper hosting
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22:45 <PlayerNuby> hi
22:45 <PlayerNuby> has anyone seen RoterBaron?
22:45 <guru3> hi!
22:45 <guru3> no!
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23:25 <baddog> hm. so I've just checked out the latest SVN revision for armagetron, but there doesn't appear to be a makefile or configure file in there :/
23:25 <BabyBug> run ./bootstrap.sh first
23:25 <BabyBug> that'll generate configure
23:25 <baddog> hm ok
23:26 <baddog> thanks :D
23:26 <BabyBug> yw =)
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