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Log from 2009-01-29:
--- Day changed Thu Jan 29 2009
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00:12 <test> #ls sustain
00:12 <armabot> test: SusTain has last been seen on Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud)  52 minutes ago.
00:13 <test> #ls istink
00:13 <armabot> test: timed out
00:13 <smoothice> #ls Blaze
00:13 <test> #ls playur 1
00:13 <armabot> smoothice: Blaze has last been seen on {Delicious Desserts} Racing II 5 minutes ago.
00:14 <test> hi smoothice
00:14 <smoothice> hi test
00:14 <smoothice> who are you?
00:14 <test> #ls Put name here
00:14 <armabot> test: Playur 1 has last been seen on Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud)  56 minutes ago.
00:15 <armabot> test: Put Name Here has last been seen on .:] Twisted Rats [:. Sumo 22 minutes ago.
00:15 <smoothice> #ls smoothice~nw
00:16 <armabot> smoothice: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on  ~Night Walker's Central~CTFS~ 2 minutes ago.
00:16 <test> Goodbye
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00:20 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/1v1/1v1ctfdome-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
00:39 <madmax> #tea
00:39 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1003 Carefully clarified our odd signed arithmetics during string...
00:40 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:41  * BabyBug throws tea at madmax 
00:41 <BabyBug> #n9
00:41 <armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (1/16): C$ Tank
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00:58 <madmax> thanks BabyBug
00:58 <BabyBug> yw hunni
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01:27 <smoothice> z-man: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=202771#202771
01:28 <z-man> Interesting.
01:30 <z-man> But why don't you start from the trunk? That'll make it easier to integrate later.
01:30 <smoothice> I thought people still really liked 0.2.8
01:30 <smoothice> Because it is stable
01:33 <smoothice> z-man: I could create two branches... one 0.2.8 and one trunk
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01:34 <z-man> The server code on the trunk is about as stable as 0.2.8, most changes have been made on the presentation side.
01:34 <smoothice> What do you think of making two branches?
01:34 <z-man> The only reason people aren't running 0.3.x servers is that they have no new features over 0.2.8 :)
01:34 <smoothice> oh
01:35 <z-man> and, of course, the existing hacks for 0.2.8.
01:35 <z-man> I wonder whether sty+cy can be ported over to the trunk.
01:35 <ct|kyle> z-man: is the rotation still broken or do you know what revision it broke at?
01:36 <z-man> As far as I know, rotation is working on both branches now.
01:36 <ct|kyle> once sty gets zones v2 i plan on porting the CT stuff into it
01:36 <CodeHunter> z-man:  I just installed both the that you released and then ran .3.0 that you released this month.  However, I notice that in the .2.8.3 version, I get way higher FPS
01:37 <ct|kyle> then I'll put up a test server and make sure that it has not changed in last year
01:37 <z-man> Big surprise, as 0.3 has more graphics stuff.
01:37 <smoothice> z-man: I wanted to do 0.2.8 because a lot of PVP stuff these days is sty patch related. 0.3-sty is really buggy and 0.2.8-sty isn't as much.
01:38 <CodeHunter> ohh that makes more sense :P
01:38 <CodeHunter> z-man:  I LOVE the .3.0 smart cam.. it doesnt move when you hit a wall like it does on the .2.8 versions
01:38 <z-man> smoothice: your project, your decision :)
01:38 <CodeHunter> Is there any way to incorperate that into the .2.8 version?
01:38 <z-man> Guys, umm, its sort of 2 AM here.
01:38 <CodeHunter> oh :( sorry
01:38 <z-man> and NO.
01:38 <smoothice> z-man: alright :) Just getting an opinion from the creator of almighty "tron" :P
01:38 <CodeHunter> LOL
01:39 <CodeHunter> fine zman :P just a wish upon a star :D
01:39 <CodeHunter> btw, link me to tanks file thingy before you gotta go to bed :(
01:39 <z-man> I don't know where they are myself.
01:39 <CodeHunter> =o
01:40 <z-man> I'd look in the svn repository on sourceforge.
01:40 <CodeHunter> okie
01:42 <CodeHunter> z-man:  I am a sourceforge noob... where is the repository?
01:43 <CodeHunter> nvm got it i think
01:43 <armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r854 Fixed compatibility with old receivers for old style sync me... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r853 Fixed broadcast messages.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r852 Whoops, forgot the factored out files.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r851 Send buffer now also operates on byte basis.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r850 Receive buffer is now a byt
01:47 <smoothice> z-man: What is se_NeedsServer?
01:48 <Flex> ct|kyle, don't you think "open sumo" should rather be called 'open team sumo'? whatever open means..
01:49  * BabyBug agrees!
01:49 <z-man> smoothice: setting items like KICK that only work on the server call it, it informs the user on the client that it's an illegal command
01:50 <z-man> anyway, night :)
01:50 <ct|kyle> you can still have 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1.... it is up to players to decide what one to use :)
01:50 <ct|kyle> goodnight z-man
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01:50 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, that's just silly :P
01:54 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/OnlineRacing1/Charriot-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
01:55 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/OnlineRacing1/Cherrio-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
01:55 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/OnlineRacing1/Moon-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
01:56 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/OnlineRacing1/Sun-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
02:09 <CodeHunter> ct|kyle:  Do you know where to get that browser list that is in the bottom of the arma forums?  z-man said it should be open source but I cannot find it in the repository
02:10 <ct|kyle> CodeHunter: easyer way http://crazy-tronners.com/wrtl/  I think you will want http://crazy-tronners.com/wrtl/main_page_browser.zip
02:11 <ct|kyle> well that is the one on ct's forums
02:11 <ct|kyle> should be about the same though
02:11 <CodeHunter> ct|kyle: Thanks.  Any special requirments?
02:12 <CodeHunter> Do i just upload all files via FTP?
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02:12 <CodeHunter> And in the readme:  screen: as in the unix command?
02:12 <CodeHunter> sup sai
02:12 <CodeHunter> Damn your eyes!
02:12 <noob_saibot> howz it goin
02:12 <CodeHunter> good good
02:13 <ct|kyle> basically you run the script to get the data every minute
02:14 <CodeHunter> Hmm, so i will need a cronjob?
02:14 <ct|kyle> and then you import it into bottom of forums with i think there is a code in there
02:14 <ct|kyle> ya
02:14 <CodeHunter> That sucks.  My host will not allow a cronjob to be ran >:(
02:14 <ct|kyle> cron to run the script
02:15 <ct|kyle> CodeHunter: will they allow you a script to just be running?
02:16 <CodeHunter> I'm sure they will, but I have not found a way to do that.
02:16 <ct|kyle> you could modify it to sleep for a minute
02:16 <CodeHunter> The only way i know of is cronjobs
02:17 <noob_saibot> i can go for a cronjob right about now
02:18 <CodeHunter> heh
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02:24 <SignalOne> hello
02:24 <noob_saibot> hey ginger balls
02:25 <SignalOne> lets see smoothice is familiar
02:25 <SignalOne> and noob _saibot
02:25 <SignalOne> hey saibot
02:25 <SignalOne> wtf is up!
02:25 <smoothice> ?
02:25 <SignalOne> just know your names from playing in tron
02:25 <SignalOne> seen you around allot
02:26 <SignalOne> help me with my config ill give you waffles
02:27 <epsy> can you please state your problem..
02:27 <CodeHunter> hah
02:28 <SignalOne> ctf zones dont respawn
02:28 <SignalOne> they win
02:28 <noob_saibot> hey
02:28 <epsy> because they vanish??
02:28 <SignalOne> yup
02:28 <noob_saibot> who are you Signal1
02:28 <SignalOne> http://ak4clan/conscript is me
02:28 <epsy> check that fortress_conqu settings are all set to 0
02:29 <SignalOne> ok
02:29 <SignalOne> i would think since clans battle there would be a global cfg for ctf but i guess not
02:29 <noob_saibot> k
02:30 <CodeHunter> Ah, the .iZm person.
02:30 <epsy> well CTF is still not "globally" supported
02:30 <BabyBug> because all the devs are lazy
02:30 <CodeHunter> smoothice:  What is that darn command that makes the zones decay faster?  I cannot find it anywhere.
02:30 <SignalOne> hmm well i want to run ctf on one of the servers so i guess I just have to build a cfg for one of the maps?
02:31 <SignalOne> ill try to find the fortress_conqu let you konw how it goes
02:31 <smoothice> CodeHunter: self_destruct_radius?
02:31 <smoothice> #cfg2 self_destruct_radius
02:31 <armabot> smoothice: SELF_DESTRUCT_RADIUS: self_destruct_radius_help
02:31 <CodeHunter> Well, in Sumo.  The zones do not shrink as fast as I would like them to.
02:32 <armabot> CodeHunter: FORTRESS_CONQUEST_DECAY_RATE: Rate a fortress zone "recovers" from being conquered
02:32 <SignalOne> if you were to use a ctf map in the repository which one would you use?
02:32 <epsy> you mean once they are conquered or during whole round?
02:32 <CodeHunter> during the whole round.
02:32 <CodeHunter> I want them to shrink faster
02:32 <epsy> that's in the map
02:32 <CodeHunter> damn.
02:33 <SignalOne> well cant you get a folder on the res and add an edited map to it and use it
02:34 <SignalOne> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/SSOAN/CTF/ctfsty-0.0.3.aamap.xml   if this map was used add the fortress_conq in cfg correct?
02:35 <SignalOne> to 0
02:35 <CodeHunter> SignalOne:  What are you talking about?
02:36 <SignalOne> well i want to run ctf, and havnt started on the config yet
02:36 <SignalOne> i was trying to get help making the zones respawn
02:36 <CodeHunter> SignalOne:  You have the server up?  Built with sty+ct?
02:36 <SignalOne> yes
02:36 <CodeHunter> hold on.
02:37 <noob_saibot> DUKE SUCKS~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:37 <SignalOne> lol
02:37 <CodeHunter> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/files/880?file_id=4612%407d95bf1e-0414-0410-9756-b78462a59f44%3Aarmagetronad%252Fbranches%252F0.2.8%252Farmagetronad%3Aconfig%252Fexamples
02:37 <noob_saibot> go WAKE~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:37 <SignalOne> dude ty so much
02:37 <SignalOne> win
02:38 <CodeHunter> No problem.
02:38 <SignalOne> yes but ty
02:38 <SignalOne> again
02:39 <CodeHunter> epsy:  Would you like to host a modifyed map for me?  I do not have the time to be bugging luke-jr for a folder.
02:39 <epsy> a modified map?
02:39 <CodeHunter> Yes.  The map I am using for the sumo df is this one: http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/slyshot/sumodf-3.aamap.xml
02:40 <CodeHunter> However, I would like the map to be changed so that the zones can shrink a tad bit faster.
02:41 <epsy> when?
02:41 <CodeHunter> SignalOne:  Glad you changed your clan name to ak4 instead of iZm.  You were making a lot of the older players a lil mad ;)
02:41 <CodeHunter> epsy: hm?
02:41 <smoothice> CodeHunter are you slyshot?
02:41 <CodeHunter> smoothice:  No.
02:41 <smoothice> ok
02:42 <CodeHunter> <Zone effect="fortress">
02:42 <CodeHunter> <ShapeCircle radius="140" growth="-1.1">
02:42 <CodeHunter> Could i make that -2.0 instead of -1.1?  Will that make them shrink faster?
02:42 <epsy> yes
02:43 <CodeHunter> epsy: If you are not too busy right now, I would really appreciate it if you could host it on your folder.
02:44 <epsy> well, DCC/mail me the full map with your GID as author
02:44 <CodeHunter> Ok.
02:46 <CodeHunter> epsy:  http://rafb.net/p/yqPcnb35.html
02:47 <epsy> grmpf, that's not a GID
02:47 <epsy> a GID is something like epsy@forums
02:47 <CodeHunter> Sorry, I don't have one... Well, I do.  It's CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com
02:48 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1004 Using tString class from sty+ct now
02:48 <CodeHunter> If that's any help.
02:48 <epsy> ok
02:50 <CodeHunter> epsy:  I set the zones to shrink at -1.8 from -1.1.  Hopefully this will be enough.
02:50 <epsy> did you test it?
02:50 <CodeHunter> How?  oO I have no ways of hosting it to test it
02:50 <epsy> I mean, locally
02:51 <epsy> put it in your resource/ folder
02:51 <epsy> I can still host but if you can test it in advance it's even better
02:51 <CodeHunter> Please host it :P as I have never done it this way before.
02:52 <CodeHunter> It would take a longer time for me to set up the settings and such with it too.
02:52 <CodeHunter> Rather than just putting in the map url and restarting the server
02:52 <epsy> I mean, just to see if the zone seems to be shrinking fast enough
02:53 <SignalOne> codehunter i cant get the cfg to load wtf
02:53 <CodeHunter> I wouldn't know where to begin.  I've never even played in a local game before tbh xD
02:53 <CodeHunter> SignalOne: Huh?
02:53 <BabyBug> "License: Do with it what you want." <--- That's called WTFPL! =P
02:54 <CodeHunter> BabyBug: heh
02:54 <SignalOne> i am trying to loaf cfg ctf , its says use in server_setting_custom
02:54 <SignalOne> and use the yourmom/clever/ctf which is not there
02:54 <CodeHunter> Yes.  Do that.
02:54 <SignalOne> i am trying to do that it wont take the data
02:54 <CodeHunter> Well.  You will need to put those settings in your settings_custom.cfg folder.
02:54 <teabot> xclanaarepo: Added CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com/SumoDf-3.aamap.xml <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20090129025437-w6peb7vq1zqzdkrh>
02:54 <SignalOne> i guess ill ftp it in the var folder
02:54 <SignalOne> and try to call it up
02:54 <CodeHunter> The server includes that file automatically.
02:55 <BabyBug> Night! \o (you're up late epsy!)
02:55 <epsy> CodeHunter, done
02:55 <SignalOne> what do you mean the server includes it
02:55 <CodeHunter> epsy: Thanks
02:55 <SignalOne> that map you mean
02:55 <epsy> BabyBug sleeping?
02:55 <BabyBug> i'm about to...you should beeee
02:55 <SignalOne> ok so i have url for map and url for cfg whats the order to implement
02:56 <CodeHunter> epsy: ERRR
02:56 <epsy> what did I do wrong?
02:56 <CodeHunter> Nothing.  I have never seen what you gave me before... What do I add here?
02:56 <CodeHunter> MAP_FILE slyshot/sumodf-3.aamap.xml
02:57 <CodeHunter> I was expecting you to upload it to the arma resource
02:57 <epsy> MAP_FILE CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com/SumoDf-3.aamap.xml(http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com/SumoDf-3.aamap.xml)
02:57 <CodeHunter> Same principal?  Ok, I'll give it a whirl
02:57 <epsy> wow these zones are quite big Oo
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03:04 <CodeHunter> epsy:  Works just fine, thx
03:04 <CodeHunter> epsy: I modify the size_factor to shrink the circles
03:06 <epsy> great :)
03:06 <epsy> good night
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03:20 <SignalOne> hello again
03:20 <SignalOne> if i have a cfg for ctf can i uplaod it instead of using it in custom
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03:31 <SignalOne> anyone know the command to launch new cfg file?
03:31 <SignalOne> from in game
03:34 <ct|kyle> INCLUDE
03:36 <SignalOne> ty
03:39 <SignalOne> ok on ctf the flags are incorect
03:39 <SignalOne> you can grab anyone
03:39 <SignalOne> weird
03:40 <s0beit> SignalOne: That is because you are playing with bots.
03:40 <SignalOne> no
03:40 <SignalOne> there are people on the server
03:40 <SignalOne> no bots
03:40 <Lucifer> GodTodd__: ping
03:40 <s0beit> Hmm.  I have no clue then.
03:40 <s0beit> Hi luci
03:45 <ct|kyle> SignalOne: what server
03:46 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: I've been waiting for you to say that
03:49 <SignalOne> ioh
03:49 <SignalOne> ak4
03:49 <SignalOne> we are in it
03:49 <SignalOne> sry
03:49 <ct|kyle> #ls SignalOne
03:49 <SignalOne> huh
03:49 <armabot> ct|kyle: timed out
03:49 <SignalOne> o
03:49 <SignalOne> k
03:49 <SignalOne> hey someone go on my server and tell me what you think
03:50 <SignalOne> its screwy but simple , i think its team_flag
03:50 <SignalOne> idunno
03:51 <ct|kyle> if i knew what server it was ...
03:53 <SignalOne> ak4
03:53 <SignalOne> says ak4 single trap server
03:54 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 FLAG
03:54 <armabot> ct|kyle: FLAG_BLINK_END: flag_blink_end_help || FLAG_BLINK_ESTIMATE_POSITION: flag_blink_estimate_position_help || FLAG_BLINK_ON_TIME: flag_blink_on_time_help || FLAG_BLINK_START: flag_blink_start_help || FLAG_BLINK_TIME: flag_blink_time_help || FLAG_BLINK_TRACK_TIME: flag_blink_track_time_help || FLAG_CHAT_BLINK_TIME: flag_chat_blink_time_help || FLAG_COLOR_B: flag_color_b_help || FLAG_COLOR_G: (2 more messages)
03:54 <SignalOne> it flag
03:55 <SignalOne> kyle its just that i can pick up any flag man
03:55 <SignalOne> and the name of what the server?
03:56 <ct|kyle> #ls ct_ky13
03:56 <armabot> ct|kyle: ct¤ky13 seems to be on  .[Ak4]. *Single Trap Server (ST)* US right now.
03:58 <ct|kyle> #si -v Single Trap Server
03:58 <armabot> ct|kyle: .[Ak4]. *Single Trap Server (ST)* US ( running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090123 unix dedicated, url: http://ak4clan.net/conscript, Description: “This is single trap.  Similar do DF, ST combines passive trapping and allows only one kill option.  Trapping your opponent with your cycle only. This is done one trap at a time.  Do not use your opponents walls to trap.  Passive (1 more message)
03:59 <SignalOne> anythoughts?
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04:05 <SignalOne> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/files/880?file_id=4612%407d95bf1e-0414-0410-9756-b78462a59f44%3Aarmagetronad%252Fbranches%252F0.2.8%252Farmagetronad%3Aconfig%252Fexamples
04:05 <SignalOne> there is 2 one is ctf and the other is ctf1
04:05 <SignalOne> take a look the flags dont work any team can capture both flags
04:06 <TheBeyonder> :)
04:06 <SignalOne> :-(
04:06 <TheBeyonder> hi
04:06 <ct|kyle> SignalOne: you should use the settings_pig_sty_ctf.cfg
04:06 <TheBeyonder> You guys are talking about setting up sty
04:06 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: waiting for me to say what?
04:06 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: GodTodd__ ping
04:06 <TheBeyonder> I was trying to figure that out earlier
04:06 <Lucifer> I've been saying it privately for several days already
04:07 <SignalOne> no, its set up
04:07 <TheBeyonder> signal who are you
04:07 <ct|kyle> ah
04:07 <SignalOne> thebeyond its just a setting in the cfg i need to change
04:07 <SignalOne> i am signal
04:07 <TheBeyonder> oh
04:07 <TheBeyonder> u talk with joker?
04:07 <SignalOne> nope
04:07 <SignalOne> no one rly
04:07 <SignalOne> i just do it
04:07 <TheBeyonder> oh i is confuzed
04:08 <TheBeyonder> are you talking about the server i was trying to set up fopr dk?
04:08 <SignalOne> well i just want to make ctf work
04:08 <SignalOne> no
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04:08 <TheBeyonder> oh lol!
04:08 <SignalOne> http://ak4clan.net/conscript
04:08 <SignalOne> there is some info
04:08 <TheBeyonder> I was in here this afternoon trying to get tips and was stuck at the bazarr part ... uh hold on let me get it
04:09 <SignalOne> but if you know the command in the cfg for flag control i would appreciateit
04:10 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: hi
04:10 <TheBeyonder> hi :)
04:10 <SignalOne> hi
04:10 <TheBeyonder> bzr commit -m "Merging changes from the mainline"
04:10 <TheBeyonder> gave me a command not found error
04:10 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: wtf are you trying to do?
04:10 <TheBeyonder> install ctfs for starters
04:10 <TheBeyonder> was using bzr
04:10 <luke-jr> and this involves 'bzr commit' how
04:10 <luke-jr> ?
04:10 <TheBeyonder> but got stuck at that part
04:11 <TheBeyonder> $ bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
04:11 <TheBeyonder> $ cd 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
04:11 <TheBeyonder>  
04:11 <TheBeyonder> Optional (and risky, you may get difficult to resolve conflicts): merge in changes from the mainline with
04:11 <TheBeyonder>  
04:11 <TheBeyonder> $ bzr merge lp:armagetronad/0.2.8
04:11 <TheBeyonder> $ bzr commit -m "Merging changes from the mainline"
04:11 <TheBeyonder>  
04:11 <luke-jr> oh
04:11 <luke-jr> interesting
04:11 <Lucifer> bzr --version says?
04:11 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: maybe try the new 0.3-sty
04:12 <TheBeyonder> one sec let me get into the server
04:12 <TheBeyonder> Never enough screens :P
04:12 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: fwiw, you can easily skip that step
04:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: hey
04:13 <TheBeyonder> oh? how should i proceed?
04:13 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: just skip it and move on
04:13 <ct|kyle> hel luke-jr
04:13 <TheBeyonder> right now im in the armagetron dir from the bzr commands
04:13 <ct|kyle> hey*
04:13 <TheBeyonder> well when i run bootstrp.sh i get errors
04:13 <TheBeyonder> *bootstrap.sh
04:13 <smoothice> still
04:13 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: any idea on SignalOne's CTF issue? XD
04:14 <TheBeyonder> bash:  command bootstrap.sh not found
04:14 <Lucifer> heh, that's not running bootstrap.sh
04:14 <Lucifer> that is failing to run it :)
04:14 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: you typed the ./ ?
04:14 <TheBeyonder> yes
04:14 <Lucifer> ls
04:14 <TheBeyonder> that was just the response :)
04:14 <Lucifer> pwd
04:14 <Lucifer> pwd and tell us what you get
04:14 <TheBeyonder> pwd
04:15 <Lucifer> no, in the server
04:15 <Lucifer> same place you tried to run bootstrap.sh
04:15 <TheBeyonder> i know i do that on accident sometimes :)
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04:15 <luke-jr> …
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04:17 <TheBeyonder> ?
04:17 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: we're all still waiting for the output of 'pwd'
04:17 <TheBeyonder> ~root/Desktop/armagetronad
04:17 <luke-jr> …
04:17 <TheBeyonder> sorry the client took it as raw without ~
04:17 <luke-jr> ok, now 'ls'
04:18 <TheBeyonder> one sec let me ssh instead of vnc
04:18 <luke-jr> sigh
04:19 <TheBeyonder> ccustomdir.m4           html.m4.in                resource
04:19 <TheBeyonder> acinclude.m4             language                  sound
04:19 <TheBeyonder> armagetron.kdevelop      MacOS                     src
04:19 <TheBeyonder> armagetron.kdevelop.pcs  major_version             src_doku
04:19 <TheBeyonder> armagetron.kdevses       Makefile.am               tagsvn
04:19 <TheBeyonder> AUTHORS                  Makefile.manual           tank_todo-halffinnished.txt
04:19 <TheBeyonder> batch                    Makefile.paths            textures
04:19 <TheBeyonder> bootstrap.sh             minor_version             todo-luke-jr.txt
04:19 <TheBeyonder> ChangeLog                models                    todo-philippe.txt
04:19 <TheBeyonder> config                   NEWS                      touch
04:19 <TheBeyonder> config_debug             pigsty-061021-ljr3.patch  tron.ico
04:19 <TheBeyonder> config.guess             README                    update_svn
04:19 <TheBeyonder> configure.ac             README-DEVELOPER          version
04:19 <TheBeyonder> COPYING.txt              README-SDL                www-root
04:19 <TheBeyonder> desktop                  README-Subversion
04:19 <Lucifer> http://rafb.net/paste/  <--- next time use this
04:19 <TheBeyonder> bear with me please as this is my first attempt and am just doing as a favor :D
04:19 <Lucifer> now do:
04:20 <Lucifer> ls -l bootstrap.sh
04:20 <SignalOne> ty kyle, that was the one i thought
04:20 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: wtf?
04:20 <luke-jr> just doing as a favour?
04:20  * Lucifer is both hungry and wants orange juice
04:20 <SignalOne> what i was doing was changing team_flag 1 in game and everyround the file would revert back to 0
04:20 <TheBeyonder> -rwxrwxr-x 1 echo echo 657 Apr 12  2007 bootstrap.sh
04:20 <luke-jr> usually I don't offer to do favours that I'm not even capable of
04:20 <Lucifer> ok, try ./bootstrap.sh again
04:21 <SignalOne> why cant i see kyle in the name list
04:21 <luke-jr> tell your friend you don't know how and he should ask someone who does
04:21  * BabyBug gets Lucifer some orange juice
04:21 <Lucifer> this time, give us both the command line and the output
04:21 <TheBeyonder> I run the colo and have extra servers so I am putting up for free for now for DK
04:21 <Lucifer> if it's more than 2-3 lines, please use the pastebin :)
04:21 <luke-jr> or get hosting service that includes support
04:21 <SignalOne> ct|kyle ty
04:21 <SignalOne> ty luke
04:21 <SignalOne> woot
04:21 <ct|kyle> SignalOne: no problem
04:21 <SignalOne> yes i did it right , i should changed in file the first time
04:22 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: he was using 1 flag CTF settings on the 2 flag map
04:22 <luke-jr> o
04:22 <luke-jr> weird
04:22 <luke-jr> 1 flag CTF? :/
04:24 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ya it was one of the last things pig added to the patch
04:31 <SignalOne> yup
04:31 <s0beit> SignalOne: Nice one ;)
04:31 <SignalOne> shshs
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04:31 <SignalOne> no i was using the one map with setting of 0
04:31 <SignalOne> or your right
04:31 <SignalOne> nm
04:45 <luke-jr> night
04:47 <SignalOne> night
04:47 <TheBeyonder> Signal are you trying to set this up for zurdd
04:48 <SignalOne> n0pe
04:48 <TheBeyonder> k
04:48 <SignalOne> what do you mean
04:48 <SignalOne> for someone else
04:48 <TheBeyonder> joker said zurdd was setting one up with flynn's help
04:48 <SignalOne> i charge too much
04:48 <TheBeyonder> so it was just coincidence
04:48 <TheBeyonder> HA lol
04:48 <SignalOne> ;)
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04:55 <|TheBeyonder|> :)
05:03 <ct|kyle> .part
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05:59 <GodTodd__> Lucifer, pong
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06:10 <SignalOne> helllo!
06:10 <SignalOne> yeah baby
06:11 <SignalOne> si lucifer your working on audio in tron?
06:11 <SignalOne> so*
06:18 <SignalOne> im gonna make a script in tron so everyone can listen to the theme from tetris at 400bpm woot
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08:40 <SignalONe> hello
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11:14 <armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r855 Got rid of NOEXCEPT....
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12:11 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8920 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eLagCompensation.cpp): Manuel Moos: Applied lag clamping on client, too.
12:15 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1004 Applied lag clamping on client, too....
12:16 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy apparently armagetron.at's hoster had a power outage, so you'll have to restart your servers.
12:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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13:25 <BabyBug> #later cuddle
13:25 <BabyBug> #help later
13:25 <armabot> BabyBug: Error: There is no command "later".
13:25 <BabyBug> ><
13:33 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8921 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS src/engine/eTimer.cpp src/engine/eTimer.h): Manuel Moos: Added timer drift compensation.
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13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8922 /armagetronad/trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8906 to 8921:
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  r8921 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-29 13:31:39 +0100 (Thu, 29 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Added timer drift compensation.
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  r8920 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-29 12:11:11 +0100 (Thu, 29 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
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14:16 <armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r856 Merge from trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r817 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8906 to 8921:... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1005 Added timer drift compensation....
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14:27 <wrtlprnft> epsy: armabot
14:28 <epsy> wrtlprnft: Sorry, but this command doesn't exist :S
14:28 <epsy> er, hi
14:28 <epsy> ok
14:29 <wrtlprnft> :-)
14:30 <epsy> hm, my screenrc is .. wrong
14:32 <wrtlprnft> heh, you might get nethack messages
14:36 <epsy> how should I get bash to continue running after having executed what's after -c ?
14:36 <epsy> --login ?
14:37 <epsy> or do I just start another bash
14:37 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:38 <wrtlprnft> bash -c 'echo hi; bash'
14:38 <wrtlprnft> lol
14:38 <epsy> :<
14:38 <wrtlprnft> or just use --init-file or something similar instead of -c
14:39 <epsy> that requires me to create individual files for each screen
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15:20 <BabyBug> #tea
15:20 <armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): -»|$øØ M, ct|Puuquie, IWANNAPLAY, Monkey.D.Luffy, noob13, pike, ~|DST|~AshitakA, ¦×¦ Black_hat
15:24 <wrtlprnft> ah, so café works again, and i didn't even need to test it
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15:32 <luke-jr> lol
15:33 <nsh22> hello everyone
15:35  * nsh22 is looking for a joband isnt liking what he sees :(
15:35 <nsh22> meh
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15:45 <wrtlprnft> crontab -e
15:45 <wrtlprnft> and create a new job
15:45 <nsh22> ?
15:45 <nsh22> ah cron jobs
15:45 <nsh22> nty
15:46 <nsh22> im looking for employment i should say
16:04 <nsh22> ok, resumes and covers done...whew
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16:06 <nsh22> GRRR....cover letters suck!
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16:18 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
16:18 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 20.7°F (10:17 AM EST on January 29, 2009). Conditions: Blowing Snow. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 10.4°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
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16:28 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
16:29 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 19.6°F (10:28 AM EST on January 29, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 28.91 in 978.9 hPa (Falling).
16:29 <Lizmatic> #weather amsterdam
16:29 <Lizmatic> FU!
16:29 <armabot> Lizmatic: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
16:30 <nsh22> #weather brisbane
16:30 <armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
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16:52 <nsh22> hey
16:52 <|TheBeyonder|> :)
16:52 <nsh22> did u get the server working?
16:52 <|TheBeyonder|> no i was getting help here then everyone disappeared
16:52 <|TheBeyonder|> so i gave up
16:53 <|TheBeyonder|> and zurdd put a ctfs board on flynn's server?
16:53 <|TheBeyonder|> so I am going to host a website until I get my Xeon box up and do multiple servers on it once they perfect the settings for ctf anctfs
16:54 <|TheBeyonder|> *and ctfs
16:59 <|TheBeyonder|> ....
16:59 <|TheBeyonder|> Luke u here?
17:00 <nsh22> hint: type first three letters of their name and press tab. their full name wioll come up and then put a colon there and type your message
17:00 <nsh22> like this
17:00 <nsh22> t\
17:00 <nsh22> |TheBeyonder| : hi
17:01 <|TheBeyonder|> i messaged him privately
17:01 <|TheBeyonder|> probably asleep lol
17:02 <nsh22> or working 0.o
17:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/ctf/pacman2-0.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
17:04 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/ctf/pacman3-0.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
17:06 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/ctf/pacman4-0.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
17:08 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/ctf/pacman5-0.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
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17:16 <nsh22> fuking ie went emo again
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17:22 <epsy> dont use ie
17:22 <nsh22> lol
17:22 <nsh22> i m starting to use firefox
17:22 <s0beit> #cfg2 map_rotation
17:23 <armabot> s0beit: Sorry, no matches :S
17:23 <nsh22> but it doesnt display my website sometimes
17:24 <s0beit> nsh22: The key to making a good site is making sure its cross scripted ;) I would use IE and Firefox to view websites.  As they are the most common ones used
17:25 <s0beit> ct|kyle: Anyone home?  oO
17:26 <s0beit> #ls ky13
17:26 <armabot> s0beit: ct¤ky13 has last been seen on  .[Ak4]. *Single Trap Server (ST)* US 13 hours 4 minutes ago.
17:26 <s0beit> heh
17:26 <nsh22> well, its a phpbb site so...
17:27 <s0beit> phpbb for nubs
17:27 <nsh22> #ls zurd
17:27 <s0beit> IPB ftw
17:27 <armabot> nsh22: Zurd~Nw has last been seen on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= 9 hours 52 minutes ago.
17:27 <nsh22> well im a noob at website making so....
17:27 <s0beit> well, for starters, I would use ipbfree.com then.
17:27 <s0beit> phpbb is harder to manage
17:27 <nsh22> i can manage it well enough
17:27 <s0beit> Just in my opinion.  Although I have the latest IPB forum for my site.
17:28 <nsh22> its just the programming
17:28 <s0beit> What are you trying to program?  oO
17:28 <nsh22> will ipb accept phpbb backups
17:28 <s0beit> No, especially with free hosts.
17:28 <s0beit> What are you trying to script?
17:29 <nsh22> nothing, u said it should be cross compatible
17:29 <s0beit> epsy: Taking a nap?
17:29 <nsh22> and i think it is, its just that firefox tends to drop the connection while its loading
17:29 <s0beit> phpbb usually comes already compatible with all browsers.  I just thought you were writting your own site.
17:30 <s0beit> Ah.
17:30 <s0beit> Probably client side then.  What's your link?
17:33 <nsh22> www.thefoodsite.x10hosting.com
17:34 <nsh22> it only happens occasionally
17:34 <nsh22> and i use a portable version of firefox
17:37 <nsh22> wow i spent 700 dollars in the last 2 months, damn
17:38 <s0beit> nsh22:  Must be nice ;D
17:39 <nsh22> no, not if you dont have much to begin with. much of it comes from xmas money
17:39 <nsh22> and allowance
17:40 <s0beit> #ls pacman
17:40 <armabot> s0beit: pacman has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) 17 hours 44 minutes ago.
17:41 <nsh22> #ls neal
17:41 <armabot> nsh22: Neal~NW has last been seen on  Wild West  =CTF Shooting= 18 hours 21 minutes ago.
17:41 <nsh22> hmmm i thought i wa on my server last. oh well
18:02 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has quit ["Vortec IRC - http://www.vortecirc.com"]
18:03 <epsy> s0beit, looking for me?
18:16 <s0beit> epsy: I was :)
18:16 <s0beit> epsy: I figured you was off in la la land
18:16 <s0beit> :P
18:17 <ct|kyle> that is where i was too :P
18:17 <s0beit> I KNOW!
18:17 <s0beit> hai kyle!!!!
18:17 <s0beit> :D
18:18 <s0beit> I have a question about map rotation.  I am using the sty+ct 2009 release on my server, is that already scripted in?
18:18 <epsy> most of that stuff is handled external to the binary at CT
18:20 <s0beit> so i will need to include something in my server in order to make some maps rotate?
18:20 <s0beit> that suxzorz
18:20  * epsy does not support sty+ct
18:20  * s0beit slaps epsy with raw fish eggs
18:21 <s0beit> Well
18:21 <s0beit> thats what dorka dorka set up for me
18:21 <s0beit> so i had to go with it
18:21 <s0beit> cuz i had no damn clue how to set up some servers on a vps
18:21 <s0beit> ;)
18:30 -!- s0beit [n=s0beit@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
18:47 <Flex> Now this is what they call poetry in motion. She's my daily devotion, the verses stay deeper than the oceon. My Soul bleeds on these words, heart screams with emotion. So she kind of owes me a promotion...
18:49 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
18:49 <nsh22> hey hey
18:49 <ct|kyle> Flex: you really should stop stalking Lizmatic
18:50 <ct|kyle> oi nsh22
18:50 <BabyBug> haha Flex you're so lame, i thought you said you were gonna kill yourself already? hurry up!
18:50 <Flex> lol
18:50 <nsh22> haha
18:50 <Flex> what
18:50 <Flex> oh while you're there.. i removed you from the team :)
18:50 <BabyBug> oh no...i'm in tears...
18:51  * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug to cheer her up
18:51  * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle down a gutter
18:51 <nsh22> haha
18:51 <ct|kyle> :)
18:52  * nsh22 is eating a concoction of butter, brown sugar, oats and chocolate chips
18:52 <ct|kyle> replace that chocolate ships with raisins and that's what i just had
18:52 <ct|kyle> chips*
18:53 <nsh22> lol
18:54 <ct|kyle> along with a few more ingredients
18:54 <Lizmatic> Flex, remove me from the team too then
18:54 <Lizmatic> Ive decided to just play with x if they still let me
18:55 <ct|kyle> *** Flex Gets Rejected again ***
18:56 <Lizmatic> not really, he just kicked someone from the team who I invited without even asking me.. so nvm about the whole team then
18:57 <Flex> oh so you invited her.. didn't you say i did?
18:57 <Lizmatic> I was the one who asked her
18:57 <Flex> alright have her
18:58 <nsh22> tis snowing
18:58 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
18:58 <Lizmatic> have her? :s
18:58 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 21.7°F (12:58 PM EST on January 29, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 15.8°F. Pressure: 28.88 in 977.9 hPa (Falling).
18:58 <nsh22> can i have someone?
18:58 <Flex> i was going to ask.. but kind of told me to gtfo?
18:59 <Lizmatic> its fine
18:59 <Flex> last time getting involed my assss..
18:59 <Lizmatic> just be quiet to babybug, this isnt about her
19:04 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-170.brookes.ac.uk] has joined #armagetron
19:04 <ct|kyle> oi PinkTomato
19:06 <PinkTomato> hi ct|kyle :)
19:07  * BabyBug prods PinkTomato in da belly button
19:07  * nsh22 has mmore of his concoction
19:07  * PinkTomato waves :)
19:08  * Lizmatic gives BabyBug an evil glare
19:08 <BabyBug> It was a prod! not a cuddle!
19:08 <Lizmatic> >.>
19:08 <Lizmatic> <.<
19:08 <ct|kyle> i guess you can't do that anymore BabyBug
19:08 <BabyBug> :(
19:09 <Flex> that's so stupid.. not even amusing anymore
19:09 <Lizmatic> erm what is?
19:10 <BabyBug> it's not meant to be amusing...... >.<
19:11 <Flex> oh that's hawt you're a lesbo gg thanks bye
19:11 <Flex> now go away BabyBug
19:11 <Flex> i g2g
19:11 <Lizmatic> she's bi
19:11 <ct|kyle> *** Flex is scard **
19:12 <BabyBug> bisexual Flex ...seriously why haven't you killed yourself yet? is it money troubles? I'll happily buy you the rope...I'm sure lisa will chip in for some acid to slowly burn through your skin while you're hanging there
19:12 <nsh22> haha
19:12 <ct|kyle> LOL
19:12 <Flex> killed myself? wtf is wrong with you..
19:13 <BabyBug> i just want me dreams to be a reality...
19:13 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: am i in your dreams (/me hopes not)
19:13 <BabyBug> newp...you're in my nightmares ='(
19:14 <ct|kyle> ah that is better then :)
19:14 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@232-187-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit []
19:15 <nsh22> am i?
19:16  * nsh22 is listening to mad dog-yngwie malmsteen
19:18 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@232-187-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #armagetron
19:18 <nsh22> shey
19:18 <nsh22> hey*
19:22 <PinkTomato> Wait, how did we get from belly button to lesbian ?
19:22 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: 1 word BabyBug
19:23 <nsh22> lol
19:23 <nsh22> hahaha
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19:33 <Lizmatic> lol, I read " 1 slut, babybug"
19:33 <Lizmatic> :p
19:33 <nsh22> K-Yo : on one of your maps, in sp mode on flag fortress, the enemy flag is in your  base, cant remember name of mapp tho...
19:34 <ct|kyle> nsh22: Flag fort
19:34 <ct|kyle> that is what flagfort is :P
19:35 <nsh22> , the enemy flag in our base?
19:35 <nsh22> hmmm
19:35 <nsh22> y ai guess that right....
19:35 <nsh22> my noob
19:35 <ct|kyle> lol
19:36  * nsh22 ate too much and feels sick...
19:36 <K-Yo> nsh22, lol, :P it's on all the maps for this server xD
19:36 <nsh22> lo
19:36  * nsh22 is a noob
19:38  * ct|kyle agrees
19:43  * BabyBug smacks Lizmatic....bitch
19:44 <nsh22> ugggh wtf is my server....
19:45  * nsh22 smacks babybug and liz and tells them to play nice
19:47  * Lizmatic spanks BabyBug
19:48 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: why do something she likes?
19:48 <nsh22> lol
19:49 <Lizmatic> cause I love her?
19:49 <epsy> oh crap I missed drama-tume
19:49 <epsy> time
19:49 <nsh22> luke-jr : for rotationg configs, do i need to name them map1.cfg, map2.cfg etc or can i name them the name of the maps?
19:50 <epsy> you can choose the names yourself
19:51 <nsh22> yay
19:51 <nsh22> i put camera settings in settings config correct?
19:52 <epsy> errr
19:52  * epsy isn't really following
19:53 <nsh22> the settings_custom.cfg file, i put things like camera_forbid_smart in there?
19:53 <epsy> ah, yes
19:53 <nsh22> ok ty
19:56  * nsh22 needs to redo the maps so the axes work
19:57 <nsh22> my server is now in cockpit mode XD
19:59 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@232-187-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit []
20:01 <z-man> #later tell dlh I should be done with your server, you can have it back now :)
20:01 <armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
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20:04 -!- nsh22 is now known as neal_arma
20:04 <neal_arma> s#ls neal
20:04 <neal_arma> #ls neal
20:05 <neal_arma> ,,,
20:05 <armabot> neal_arma: Neal~NW has last been seen on  ~Night Walker's Central~Racing~ 2 minutes ago.
20:06 <neal_arma> #ls zurd
20:06 <armabot> neal_arma: timed out
20:07 <neal_arma> fail
20:07 <neal_arma> #ls fail
20:07 -!- neal_arma is now known as nsh22
20:07 <armabot> neal_arma: Failure has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. 3 hours 4 minutes ago.
20:08 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, could you lower VOTING_MATURITY on café please? we have to wait way too long before suspending anyone... and mods/admins are not always around...
20:15 <K-Yo> #m wrtlprnft could you lower VOTING_MATURITY on café please? we have to wait way too long before suspending anyone... and mods/admins are not always around...
20:16 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8923 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp):
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: Stupid Z-Man didn't know 'char' is allowed to mean 'unsigned char'.
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixes string encoding/decoding on systems where this is the case.
20:25 <K-Yo> #apropos comi
20:25 <K-Yo> #apropos laun
20:25 <armabot> K-Yo: No appropriate commands were found.
20:25 <K-Yo> #apropos upd
20:25 <armabot> K-Yo: No appropriate commands were found.
20:26 <armabot> K-Yo: No appropriate commands were found.
20:41 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1006 Stupid Z-Man didn't know 'char' is allowed to mean 'unsigned...
20:43 <BabyBug> Who used to run bugfarm? and why isn't it still running >< ='(
20:44 <Lizmatic> Z-Man
20:44 <Lizmatic> Because he's a jerk!
20:45 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
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20:45 <BabyBug> z-man, ping!
20:45 -!- madmax|pt is now known as madmax
20:47  * nsh22 finished redoing his maps :)
20:48  * nsh22 has got his spine, has my orange crush....
20:51 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/Corners-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:54 <epsy> K-Yo: Editor's summary:  -
20:55 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/LifesDecisions-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:55 <K-Yo> epsy, I have to say I don't understand you sometimes...
20:55 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board&action=history
20:55 <K-Yo> epsy, yeah, I noticed right after pressing the publish button
20:56 <K-Yo> I just added teams
20:56 <epsy> there's a profile option for that
20:56 <K-Yo> erm
20:56 <K-Yo> servers
20:56 <K-Yo> orly?
20:56 <epsy> servers
20:56 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Special:Preferences#prefsection-4
20:57 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/SpiralofDeath-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:57 <epsy> ah well, you gotta have to click edit yourself
20:57 <nsh22> 0o
20:58 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/SpiralofDeath-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:58 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/WackyRaces-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:58 <K-Yo> epsy, ty
21:12 <nsh22> wewwt im done
21:13 <nsh22> ok, how do i get round_center_message to display the map nam?
21:13 <nsh22> name*
21:13 <epsy> just have a config file set it
21:13 <nsh22> ok
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21:19 <epsy> K-Yo, can you fill in your info at http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board#Server_List
21:28 <K-Yo> epsy, sure
21:29 <epsy> one question, what do you expect to see in a fortress scoreboard ?
21:29 <epsy> (I mean in-game)
21:30 <Genki> #ls beanie
21:30 <armabot> Genki: timed out
21:31  * epsy prepares itself to design an empty scoreboard
21:31 <Genki> #ls Beanie~NW
21:32 <armabot> Genki: timed out
21:32 <Genki> T.T
21:32 <Genki> #ls Zurd
21:32 <armabot> Genki: Zurd~Nw has last been seen on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= 13 hours 58 minutes ago.
21:34 <K-Yo> epsy, done
21:35 <epsy> K-Yo, can you link to a way of talking to you and kyle ? (eg. user talk page)
21:35 <epsy> (that would count as a minor edit)
21:35 <K-Yo> hmmm
21:35 <K-Yo> would a link to IRC do ?
21:35 <K-Yo> I guess not
21:35 <epsy> not really, heh
21:36 <K-Yo> I never read user talk
21:36 <K-Yo> well
21:36 <K-Yo> I get noticed I think
21:36 <epsy> you are, by default
21:37 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc240018.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
21:38  * nsh22 forgot to restart the server after adding rotating configs :)
21:39 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, do you have a wiki account?
21:39 <epsy> K-Yo, did you receive a mail? :)
21:39 <K-Yo> epsy, dunno, let me check
21:39 <K-Yo> I saw ur message though
21:39 <K-Yo> I did not recieve a mail :/
21:39 <epsy> then check your settings
21:39 <epsy> and your watchlist
21:41 -!- AshitakA [n=AshitakA@pD9E0148C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
21:41 <K-Yo> done
21:41 <K-Yo> was de-activated indeed
21:44 <nsh22> ok, or rconfigs.txt, do i put include file.cfg or just the file name?
21:45 <nsh22> for rconfig.txt*
21:46 <K-Yo> #si -v pharm
21:46 <armabot> K-Yo: The Server Pharm: Ladle Fortress Tournament Server ( running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090129 unix dedicated, url: http://theserverpharm.onlinegamingboard.com, Description: “Ladle Tournament ServerSetup for Ladle 18Setup by compguygene.“, Players (0/32):
21:46 <K-Yo> #dns
21:46 <armabot> Host not found.
21:46 <K-Yo> hmmm
21:46 <K-Yo> .ping
21:47 <epsy> what are you looking for? contact info?
21:47 <K-Yo> nope
21:47 <K-Yo> where it is
21:47 <epsy> ah
21:48 <epsy> believing <http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/> it is in Atlanta,
21:49 <epsy> @help alias add
21:49 <teabot> epsy: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," and cannot be combined with (1 more message)
21:49 <epsy> @alias add traceip "echo http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/$1"
21:49 <K-Yo> atlanta? east or west?
21:49 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:49 <K-Yo> epsy, or we can ask luke-jr xD
21:49 <epsy> @traceip
21:49 <teabot> http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/
21:49 <K-Yo> luke-jr, hi :)
21:50 <nsh22> Error stopping /home/neal/svc/aa
21:50 <nsh22> i guess its an unstoppable server
21:50 <epsy> wtf is an unstoppable server?
21:51 <nsh22> no it was just buggy for a moment
21:51 <epsy> so guys, Empty scoreboards win?
21:52 <nsh22> luke-jr: for rconfigs.txt, do i put include file.cfg or just the file name?
21:52 <K-Yo> <epsy> so guys, Empty scoreboards win? <- what are you talking about?
21:53 <epsy> [22:29] <epsy>: one question, what do you expect to see in a fortress scoreboard ?
21:53 <epsy> [22:29] <epsy>: (I mean in-game)
21:54 <BabyBug> Team members... Team Name...Round Score...Matches Score
21:55 <epsy> round score? now that's interesting :)
21:56 <epsy> what about player positions?
21:56 <BabyBug> Yesh...but illustrate the team positions with indents in the members list..
21:56 <BabyBug> Much like what it says when you /shuffle in the trunk
21:57 <epsy> I imagined it on far sides with indented cycles next to player names
21:57 <epsy> problem is that it repeats player names
21:58 <epsy> (also, the /shuffle / /teams thing exists on 0.2.8 as well)
21:58 <K-Yo> hmmm
21:58 <BabyBug> Oh it does? =x
21:58 <epsy> BabyBug, server-side
21:58 <K-Yo> epsy, we don't really need all the positions
21:58 <BabyBug> ah
21:58 <K-Yo> why not just say who is defense?
21:58 <K-Yo> and who is center
21:59 <epsy> and who tked the whole team?
21:59 <K-Yo> well
21:59 <K-Yo> the game could generate a detailled report
21:59 <epsy> I'm thinking about obsoleting /teams in some way
21:59 <K-Yo> and there, keep everything: positions, tks, etc
21:59 <K-Yo> btw, why not put numbers in /teams?
21:59 <K-Yo> like:
21:59 <epsy> yeah
21:59 <wrtlprnft> nsh22: if it's that much of a problem… done for now, but i don't know if it's a good idea
22:00 <K-Yo> 2 - name\n 1 - name\n3 - name
22:00 <K-Yo> so when u shuffle, you know where to
22:00 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, got my message?
22:01 <wrtlprnft> err, i meant you when i said nsh22, of course
22:01 <epsy> anyway, back to the scoreboard, better have both scores in middle and positions on outer?
22:01 <nsh22> wrtlprnft : ok lol
22:01 <nsh22> i was like, wtf?
22:02 <wrtlprnft> my messages need a little creativity to decipher
22:02 <BabyBug> Does the server keep track of kill counts? Like you could you have team members on the left and right, then in the middle have the scores. Underneath the scores have stats like team suicides, team kills, kills by the team etc..
22:03 <epsy> well, it logs them to ladderlog, but that's it
22:04 <nsh22> wrtlprnft : so when you said nsh22 you meant k-yo right?
22:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:04 <nsh22> ok
22:04 <nsh22> *sigh* my rotating configs arent working....
22:04 <wrtlprnft> z-man: char can mean pretty much anything, and imho it's useless for most purposes it's mistakenly used for
22:05 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, ok, thx. why wouldn't it be a good Idea?
22:05 <z-man> umm, wait, isn't sizeof(char) == 1?
22:05 <epsy> BabyBug, but yeah, kills and deaths seems appropriate
22:06 <BabyBug> =)
22:06 <K-Yo> maybe a wider range of players whould have to right to suspend?
22:06 <BabyBug> Why don't you just photoshop a scoreboard? see what looks good? :)
22:06 <K-Yo> like a @forums/cafe auth
22:06 <epsy> photoshop is evil! :)
22:06 <BabyBug> well whatever...
22:06 <BabyBug> lol
22:06 <BabyBug> just something to create a mockup :
22:06 <epsy> =>FcT<= !
22:06 <BabyBug> :P
22:06 <epsy> BabyBug, of course I will
22:06 <wrtlprnft> z-man: in c++, yeah
22:07 <wrtlprnft> but iirc in C it's 4
22:07 <epsy> , just considering what to put in
22:07 <wrtlprnft> or whatever int is
22:07 <epsy> BabyBug, I didn't think about round stuff
22:08 <madmax> it's 1 too
22:08 <BabyBug> I'm not sure what i meant when i said round score
22:08 <BabyBug> but cool!
22:08 <nsh22> question: for armathenication, is there a way to sogn in without changeing your name?
22:08 <wrtlprnft> or maybe not, but i think it's not defined all that well
22:08 <wrtlprnft> it's at least one, that's for sure
22:08 <nsh22> sign in*
22:09 <epsy> BabyBug, points/kills/deaths(lol) from the start of the current round?
22:09 <BabyBug> erm...yeh!
22:10 <BabyBug> Also, should have a final counter somewhere, Of how many full matches each team has one.
22:10 <wrtlprnft> z-man: yeah, in c it's at least 1, in c++ it's exactly 1
22:10 <BabyBug> Which can be reset by an admin or whatever, or it gets reset when the server empties
22:10 <epsy> BabyBug, for organized matches only, right?
22:10 <BabyBug> epsy, Well, it'd be nice to have just in general i say :)
22:10 <wrtlprnft> but maybe that's not correct, either
22:10 <epsy> Oh, and a crucial point: One or two columns?
22:11 <wrtlprnft> 1 = sizeof(char) <= sizeof(short) <= sizeof(int) <= sizeof(long)
22:11 <BabyBug> eh?
22:11 <wrtlprnft> that looks reasonable
22:11 <epsy> BabyBug, One column: Team A and B mixed together
22:11 <BabyBug> Oh, no no
22:11 <BabyBug> two columns
22:11 <epsy> BabyBug, Two columns: Team A on the left, team B on the right
22:11 <BabyBug> A on left, B on the right
22:12 <BabyBug> Erm...is the scoreboard going to be a widget thingy?
22:12 <epsy> Now about Team sumo: More than one columnis pretty much impossible, group players by team?
22:13 <epsy> BabyBug, probably a bit like cockpits
22:13 <nsh22> hmm my question got ignored....
22:13 <BabyBug> epsy, Am i correct in thinking they are just XML files then?
22:13 <nsh22> ct|kyle: for armathenication, is there a way to sogn in without changeing your name?
22:13 <BabyBug> or do i need to read more? :P
22:13 <epsy> BabyBug, as always, XML + graphics, yes
22:14 <BabyBug> And erm...yeh, group players by teams sounds good :)
22:14 <epsy> (This way we can screw "oh look at my vpenis" whores)
22:14 <epsy> er, I mean "score" :)
22:15 <epsy> nsh22, use a newer (unstable) client
22:15 <epsy> goddamn I'm tired of recommending unstable versions
22:15 <nsh22> i.e. 0.3?
22:16 <epsy> 0.3 is just as old at
22:16 <epsy> so no
22:16 <nsh22> i.e. 0.3.1?
22:16 <epsy> yes, but it wasn't released
22:16 <BabyBug> just nick the trunk
22:16 <BabyBug> ^^
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22:16 <nsh22> ok.. last try:
22:16 <nsh22> oen of those?
22:17 <epsy> alphas??
22:17 <nsh22> i duno
22:17  * nsh22 is dumb
22:17 <epsy> you mean 0.2.8.x alphas right?
22:17 -!- mkzelda [n=mkzelda@cpe-066-057-232-057.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:17 <nsh22> yes
22:17 <epsy> yes
22:17 <nsh22> something alpha XD
22:17 <epsy> alphas would be .. before
22:17 <epsy> anything that's at least from feb 2008 will do
22:18 <nsh22> so the ct-sty+auth doesnt support non namechange logins?
22:18 <epsy> one year authentication and it's still not released
22:18 <epsy> what?
22:19 <epsy> ..are you planning on using sty+ct as a client?
22:19 <nsh22> ...
22:19 <nsh22> no i have it as a server
22:19 <epsy> ok
22:20 <nsh22> so on that server, its impossible to login under auth unless you change your name(to the proper account name)?
22:20 <epsy> oh
22:20 <epsy> it's the client which does that
22:21 <nsh22> so if i get a newer client itll work?
22:21 <nsh22> ok
22:21 <epsy> yes
22:25 <nsh22> is the feb 08 client fairly stable?
22:27 <epsy> yes
22:28 <nsh22> kkk
22:28 <nsh22> ill get it later
22:29 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board#Section_1
22:29 <nsh22> where do i find it, the beta site?
22:29 <epsy> what does the little x mean?
22:29 <epsy> yes
22:29 <nsh22> kk
22:32 <nsh22> yay newer client has goodies
22:33 <nsh22> questions: what do mates and subcultures do?
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22:36 <nsh22> yay it works!
22:36 <epsy> nsh22, it's explained in their help texts
22:37 <nsh22> in whos?
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22:38 <epsy> the menu entries
22:38 <nsh22> is it normal for the newer clients to slow the comp?
22:38 <nsh22> its making my music play slower 0o
22:40 <nsh22> i went to about, and it closed....
22:42 -!- SoBeiT [n=sobeit@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
22:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: jsut the filename
22:43 <SoBeiT> \o Thars a pink tomato amongst us!
22:43 <SoBeiT> sup luke :)
22:43 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: O.o
22:43 <SoBeiT> Dont give me that stink eye
22:44 <nsh22> luke-jr : ok thx
22:44 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has joined #armagetron
22:44 <SoBeiT> ahoy G5!
22:44 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: op me!
22:44 <SoBeiT> Have you seen Novocaine?
22:44 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: Spank you?
22:44 <G5> Me? No, sry
22:45 <SoBeiT> #ls Luke-Jr
22:45 <SoBeiT> armabot:  Luke-Jr is a scary old man that hasn't played in years.
22:45 <SoBeiT> LOL
22:45 <nsh22> lol
22:45 <armabot> SoBeiT: timed out
22:45 <SoBeiT> of course
22:46 <luke-jr> <.<
22:46 <SoBeiT> rofl
22:46 <SoBeiT> kthx
22:46 <luke-jr> who wants a VPS?
22:46 <SoBeiT> VPS are for chumps
22:46 <SoBeiT> You selling VPS now?
22:47 <SoBeiT> G5: Let Novocaine know I'm lookin for him please.
22:47 <luke-jr> yep
22:47 <SoBeiT> I am seeking the settings to WILDCAT.  I plan to make an american version.
22:47 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=vps
22:47 <G5> k
22:48 <SoBeiT> luke-jr:  Looks nice.
22:49 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: knock knock.  Anyone home?
22:50 -!- Novocaine [i=novocain@adsl-84-226-80-40.adslplus.ch] has joined #armagetron
22:50 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: PinkTomato is at home.
22:50 <nsh22> GRRR the newest 2.8 client is slowing my comp
22:50 <luke-jr> ping -c 466.71.241.101
22:50 <luke-jr> ping -c 4
22:54 <luke-jr> Flex:  …
22:54 <SoBeiT> LOL
22:54 <Flex> ? add it
22:54 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: TaZ said you are working on a server script for him.
22:54 <SoBeiT> Or, that you were
22:54 <nsh22> i cant see those symbols, they go to some weird other thing
22:54 <SoBeiT> the reality show thing
22:55 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: Oh, given up on that now ^^
22:55 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato:  why?  too complex?  I told him it was.
22:56 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: I was hoping you were the man for the job.  The idea was very interesting.
22:57 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: It's not that it's complex to write, It would be complex to understand, and I think would die out rather quickly.
22:57 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato:  I see.  Yeah, it would get rather boring if that's what you mean.  Also, did he tell you about his "streaming music" idea?
22:58 <SoBeiT> z-man told him it was possible:  So he says.
22:58 <nsh22> luke-jr : do i have a subscription set up with you through paypal?
22:58 -!- Hype [n=x-javach@hbrn-5f720e7a.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #armagetron
22:58 <SoBeiT> Salut Hype
22:58 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: Streaming music?
22:58 <nsh22> i thought you were quitting tron hype
22:58 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato:  Yes.  Where a server can play music... LOL
22:59 <Hype> hi all
22:59 <SoBeiT> Is that even possible?
22:59 <Hype> i only quit the membership to DS
23:00 <PinkTomato> Well, it would require a modified client, and would require internet radio licensing to do it legally probably.
23:00 <luke-jr> nsh22: maybe? do I need to check?
23:00 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato:  Sounds like too much work, nvm
23:00 <luke-jr> lol
23:00 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: Radio Licensing is the hard work
23:00 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: not necessarily
23:01 <luke-jr> you could just point the stream to an already licensed radio
23:01 <SoBeiT> luke-jr:  Your a guy with lots of contacts.  How would a server work that is made to stream live music?  Plausible?
23:01 <luke-jr> or perhaps a lawyer could find that it isn't quite "radio" when you're on a server specific setup
23:01 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I didn't think of that,
23:01 <SoBeiT> lol
23:01 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: as PinkTomato mentioned, it would require modifying the client
23:01 <luke-jr> and also legal concerns
23:02 <SoBeiT> luke-jr:  I don't think the FBI or police department plays ArmagetronAd
23:02 <luke-jr> in other words, you would require at least 0.3.3
23:02 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: regardless, as developers we need to remain legal
23:02 <luke-jr> as well as my hosting biz
23:02 <SoBeiT> Although, I heard Obama plays tron
23:03 <luke-jr> and if it's incompatible with my hosting biz, I have no interest in putting time into it ;)
23:03 <SoBeiT> luke-jr:  I understand *wink* *wink*
23:03 <luke-jr> anyhow
23:03 <luke-jr> it's more likely 0.3.4
23:03 <luke-jr> since it depends on Luci's new sound engine
23:03 <PinkTomato> It seems though, you would just be implementing a shoutcast player
23:04 <PinkTomato> and forcing a client to listen to a station, that you should be able to change :)
23:04 <luke-jr> honestly, I'd have more interest in players with the music
23:04 <SoBeiT> Well, I think that this is an interesting Idea and maybe the devs should talk about it ^.^
23:04 <PinkTomato> which then leaves the question, why should hte server choose at all
23:04 <luke-jr> so I can play my own audio collection
23:04 <luke-jr> and as you try to pass me, you hear it to some degree
23:04 <SoBeiT> That would be hot.
23:04 <SoBeiT> :D
23:04 <luke-jr> eg, I'm playing my music in my car
23:05 <luke-jr> perhaps more urgently, I'd like to paint my cycle ;p
23:05 <luke-jr> more than a mere colour
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23:05 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: I agree.  Trick it out and throw some rimz on that hoe
23:05 <luke-jr> I think wrtlprnft's made some progress on binary resources
23:05 <Flex> custom sounds is a good idea.. gives room for admins and users to have interesting commands to use.. but music is going too far. imo
23:06 <luke-jr> Flex: music inside the cycles ;)
23:06 <luke-jr> like how your car has a CD player
23:06 <SoBeiT> This is interesting.
23:06 <SoBeiT> luke-jr:  How hard would it be to impliment this?
23:06 <luke-jr> quite hard
23:06 <Flex> like arma isn't laggy enough
23:06 <SoBeiT> Flex: ROFL
23:06 <luke-jr> and as I said, it depends on Luci's sound engine
23:06 <luke-jr> Flex: true
23:07 <PinkTomato> would that google thingy improve it? or is that more to do with server messages?
23:07 <Flex> motd sounds are cool, who would say no to those..
23:08 <Flex> as long as you don't spend more than five minutes downloading them..
23:08 <Flex> also would put stress on the servers
23:08 <Flex> anyway.. luke-jr got my PM?
23:09 <Lucifer> luckily, we've already studied the issue using real math and code
23:09 <SoBeiT> Question:  Has the devs tried to make a setting that you can silence a player forever?
23:09 <Lucifer> and have determined that having the server stream sound to the clients is fine
23:09 <SoBeiT> Lucifer:  Ahoy!
23:09 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: SILENCE <<PLAYER>> VOICE <<Player>>
23:09 <SoBeiT> And when I say silence, I mean silence a player from the player police setting
23:10 <PinkTomato> don't use it though, it just makes people angryh
23:10 <SoBeiT> Like, if I don't like luke, whatever server I am in, I don't want to hear what he has to say
23:10 <SoBeiT> lolol
23:10 <Lucifer> hmmm, maybe now with armathentication we can silence a player forever
23:10 <Lucifer> at least, we can silence him wherever he authenticates
23:10 <nsh22> wewt
23:10  * Lucifer wonders if that got added
23:10 <epsy> no
23:10 <nsh22> but then he cpuld make a fake armathentication account...
23:10 <SoBeiT> doubt it
23:10 <PinkTomato> then why would I authenticate?
23:10 <SoBeiT> Yeah
23:10 <SoBeiT> rofl
23:10 <Flex> good point
23:11 <PinkTomato> Oh, unless you do ACCESS_LEVEL_VOICE
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23:11 <epsy> but i'm considering writing an ultimate banhammer mod once we have decent scripting/modding
23:11 <PinkTomato> and you need to authenticate to speak
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23:11 <SoBeiT> banhammer... mod?
23:11 <nsh22> ok, is the latest 2.8x client supposed to lag your entire computer, it slows the music im playing lol
23:12 <SoBeiT> care to elaborate epsy?
23:12 <nsh22> but only when i have it up
23:12 <epsy> SoBeiT, ban by hostmask, by ip, by range, by GID
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23:12 <PinkTomato> nsh22: There should not be enough substantial changes to make a noticeable different
23:12 <nsh22> and, i lagged out
23:12 <PinkTomato> not by range! :'(
23:12 <PinkTomato> Admins will abuse it
23:12 <SoBeiT> epsy:  I agree
23:12 <epsy> SoBeiT, have the ability to use serval types of ban (silence, plain ban, trigger-happy ,etc)
23:12 <luke-jr> epsy: BY NICK
23:13 <epsy> luke-jr, hostmask :)
23:13 <SoBeiT> Trigger-happy?
23:13 <SoBeiT> :o
23:13 <epsy> SoBeiT, that gotta be designed
23:13 <luke-jr> epsy: Armagetron doesn't have IRC hostmasks, dummy
23:13 <luke-jr> epsy: by words spoken!
23:13 <SoBeiT> luke-jr:  LOL!
23:13 <luke-jr> eg, cuss and get autokick
23:13 <epsy> luke-jr, that's the idea of trigger-happy
23:13 <SoBeiT> ohh very nice.
23:13 <epsy> and also real permanent bans
23:13 <SoBeiT> Actually, Manta put a script like that on his server.
23:14 <SoBeiT> Or should I say SERVERS
23:14 <SoBeiT> When a member cusses, they get banned for a certain ammount of time.
23:14 <nsh22> ugh, its definately the client slowing my smusic
23:14 <epsy> but that can't work without my halfway-specified new setting structure
23:14 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: it dosen't work
23:14 <SoBeiT> Kind of lame.  Because I am a grown man and should be able to cuss when I want ;)
23:14 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: It does.
23:14 <epsy> setting access levels for this would look like non-sense
23:14 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: He turned it off.
23:15 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: Oh I see, well anyway it should ban you before you say it
23:15 <epsy> or rather silence you
23:15 <SoBeiT> Well.  Globally, I think there should be a global ban filter.
23:15 <PinkTomato> there is no point it showing PinkTomato: Oh bummer! then acting
23:15 <PinkTomato> it should not display the word, and then silence,ban etc
23:15 <SoBeiT> For instance fuck should be turned into *** automatically
23:15 <epsy> (that's why trigger-happy has to be specified)
23:15 <epsy> it could also be kicking the player if he shuffles in the middle too fast, for example
23:16 <epsy> or teamkills the whole team
23:16  * nsh22 knows a way to play music in your cycee that others can hear
23:16 <SoBeiT> epsy:  "Trigger-happy" makes me think I'm about to go shooting some ducks rather than banning someone.
23:16 <epsy> and I don't really have any idea of how to put that up in a meaningful manner
23:16 <PinkTomato> epsy: It sounds hard to create configuration options for that
23:18 <nsh22> epsy : you know what we/i was talking about with the logging n and changing names with auth, does v0.3 support that?
23:18 <epsy> 0.3 is two years old and still has the original behavoir(ie. change name to username)
23:19 <nsh22> aw
23:19 <PinkTomato> nsh22: there should be some 0.3.1 alphas around
23:19 <nsh22> PinkTomato : will they lag my comp like the2.8x did?
23:19 <SoBeiT> Why is .3.0 still being worked on?  .2.8 is the stable release in my opinion.
23:20 <nsh22> SoBeiT : to release 3.1
23:20 <SoBeiT> .3.0 has sooo many changes.  My FPS gets killed by all the graphics.
23:20 <PinkTomato> I doubt all of these claims
23:20 <PinkTomato> It's just subjective
23:21 <nsh22> what, the lag?
23:21 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: .3.0 is not being worked on
23:21 <PinkTomato> you download the new client, go into styball with it, the most laggiest server, and then blame the new client.
23:21 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: oO
23:21 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: and it's exactly the opposite
23:21 <luke-jr> .2.8 is *not* being worked on *because* it is the stable release
23:21 <PinkTomato> nsh22: I think there is something wrong with your configuration
23:21 <luke-jr> .3.x *is* being worked on *because* it is the experimental/development series
23:22 <SoBeiT> I get it now.
23:22 <PinkTomato> nsh22: the only changes since stable are improvements to serving and bug fixing, correct me if I'm wrong.
23:22 <nsh22> PinkTomato : hmmmmm... so your saying the WW servers would nt lag my comp as much as my server (which ahas styball but doesnt use it, yet)
23:22 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: trunk is significantly slower than .2.8
23:22 <luke-jr> objectively
23:23 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: Is it? I guess I haven't noticed.
23:23 <nsh22> so thats the cause of my lag?
23:23 <nsh22> cuz honestly my music was 1234, open the client, 1..2..3..4..
23:23 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: Though can you confirm that nsh22 downloaded a, should not have anny noticable differenct to
23:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: I would blame your OS for that.
23:24 <PinkTomato> nsh22: where did you download the client from?
23:24 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: shouldn't, but violated the stability rule so much it wouldn't surprise me
23:24 <nsh22> luke-jr : so windows xp sucks
23:24 <nsh22> i g2g bbl
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23:25 <Flex> why would it suck..
23:26 <PinkTomato> let's not start an OS argument
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23:27 <epsy> what then?
23:28 -!- SoBeiT [n=sobeit@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
23:28 <PinkTomato> OK, how about, reading the wiki: Multi-Mode by players, Multi-Mode by admins, << what does this mean :?
23:29 <epsy> meh
23:29 -!- SoBeiT5488 [n=Miranda@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] has left #armagetron []
23:29 <epsy> Multi-Mode by vote, Multi-Mode by admins
23:29 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p508707BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
23:30 <epsy> does that make more sense?
23:30 -!- SoBeiT5488 [n=Miranda@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
23:30 <PinkTomato> Oh, is this /vote include ?
23:30 <epsy> yes
23:30 <PinkTomato> I didn't reliase we had that :) OK thanks :)
23:30 <epsy> well, I'll change it
23:31 <epsy> "Fortress votable, Fortress can be set by admins"
23:31 <SoBeiT5488> epsy : How do you register your name on IRC?  oO
23:31 <epsy> SoBeiT5488, /msg nickserv help
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23:33 <SoBeiT5488> epsy: How do you change your nick?
23:33 <epsy>  /nick
23:33 <SoBeiT5488> wtf is that 5488 on the end?  xD
23:33 <epsy> PinkTomato, does that make sense?
23:33 -!- SoBeiT5488 is now known as SoBeiT
23:34 <epsy> SoBeiT5488, probably your client appending it because sobeit is already used
23:34 <epsy> or was
23:34 <SoBeiT> oh :/
23:34 <SoBeiT> ghey
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23:34 <PinkTomato> epsy: makes sense to me :)
23:35 <SoBeiT> Hi ivantis
23:35 -!- SoBeiT is now known as s0beit
23:35 <ivantis2> epsy: what does préfères mean?
23:36 <epsy> prefer
23:36 <ivantis2> like 'prefer' or 'would you rather?'
23:36 <epsy> both
23:36 <ivantis2> im playing a game in french
23:36 <epsy> what game?
23:36 <ivantis2> animal crossing
23:37  * epsy expects hearing about a flash game
23:37 <ivantis2> a lot of dialog
23:37 <s0beit> Je ne parle pas français couramment
23:38 <ivantis2> "Tu es sûr que tu ne préfères pas regretter ton achat plutôt que regretter de ne pas avoir acheté?"
23:38 <ivantis2> wouldnt you rather have it than not regret it?
23:38 <ivantis2> something like that
23:38 <epsy> Are you sure to not regret your bought instead of not having bought it
23:38 <epsy> ?
23:39 <ivantis2> i think so
23:39 <s0beit> Are you sure that you do not prefer to regret your purchase rather than to regret not having bought?
23:39 <s0beit> LOL
23:39 <ivantis2> im talking to a shopkeeper about an item
23:39 <s0beit> tell that shopkeeper to STFU
23:39 <s0beit> :D
23:41 <ivantis2> "Hein? Des clients? Formidable. HUM! Bienevenue à la Happy Room Academy!" means like "Huh? Customers? Good. ahem. welcome to the happy room academy!"?
23:42 <epsy> yup
23:42 <s0beit> epsy: What all do you speak?
23:43 <epsy> sorry?
23:43 <s0beit> Capite questo?
23:43  * epsy doesn't understand spanish
23:43 <s0beit> Você compreende este?
23:43 <s0beit> Italian*
23:43 <s0beit> and portuguese
23:44 <epsy> neither I understand italian, obviously
23:44 <s0beit> xD
23:44 <epsy> neither portuguese :)
23:44 <ivantis2> "Écoute. On va discuter. Toi moi? On va... Eh! C'est toi, c'est Ivan!" means like "Lets discuss. Wait, its you Ivan!"?
23:44 <s0beit> Only French?
23:44 <epsy> french, english, and a bit of german
23:44 <ivantis2> i live in the US, but im like a quarter italian
23:44 <s0beit> Listen. One will discuss. You me? One goes… Hey! It is you, it is Ivan!
23:44 <epsy> ivantis2, yes
23:45 <K-Yo> "one goes" <- I doubt it
23:45 <s0beit> K-Yo: Yeah :P
23:45 <epsy> rather "We will.."
23:46 <ivantis2> Lettres is letters, modèle is model, évaluation is evaluation. all correct?
23:46 <s0beit> yup
23:46 <epsy> will you stop asking for stuff as easy as this?
23:46 <K-Yo> modèle can be pattern, depending on context
23:46 <s0beit> haha
23:47 <K-Yo> ivantis2, http://wordreference.com/
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23:47 <epsy> sensagent.com
23:47 <epsy> is what I usually use
23:47 <ivantis2> Mon is my, he is saying "Mon évaluation". whats pièce mean?
23:48 <s0beit> epsy: Is it true that you can paste text into tron?
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23:48 <PinkTomato> I guess its not piece
23:48 <K-Yo> pièce means either room or coin
23:48 <epsy> s0beit, yes, on trunk
23:48 <epsy> or piece
23:48 <epsy> er,
23:48 <K-Yo> piece? yes but less often
23:48 <s0beit> epsy: How do you paste?  Cntrl-V?
23:48 <epsy> maybe not
23:48 <epsy> yes
23:48 <ivantis2> what does coins mean? people say that a lot
23:48 <s0beit> I will try ;)
23:48 <K-Yo> coin?
23:48 <K-Yo> in french?
23:48 <K-Yo> corner
23:49 <epsy> insert coin please
23:49 <ivantis2> corner?
23:49 <K-Yo> FR:coin = EN:corner
23:49 <K-Yo> EN:coin = FR: pièce
23:49 <s0beit> epsy: Which one is trunk?
23:49 <ivantis2> animals will say like "Coins, coins" in a sentence
23:49 <PinkTomato> I found this really neat website that serves as an interface to google.com translate, only I forgot where it is.
23:49 <K-Yo> oh
23:49 <K-Yo> it's the sound that ducks do
23:50 <ivantis2> oh
23:50 <epsy> s0beit, 0.3.x
23:50 <epsy> s0beit, wrtlprnft's builds will do
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23:51 <s0beit> epsy: Thanks
23:51 <K-Yo> anyone up for some fort?
23:51 <K-Yo> or tst-like sumo
23:51 <s0beit> K-Yo: Be there in a minute ;)
23:51 <K-Yo> :)
23:51 <ivantis2> "Les sièges de bus sont fabriqués en granite maintenant ou quoi?" "Are bus seats made of stone?"
23:51 <K-Yo> i'll wait
23:52 <epsy> what's TST-like sumo ? Oo
23:52 <K-Yo> sumo with tst settings
23:52 <epsy> ivantis2, yes
23:52 <epsy> K-Yo, what's so special with them?
23:52 <K-Yo> epsy, you made them, you should know xD
23:52 <epsy> they are normal team sumo settings to me
23:52 <K-Yo> well
23:53 <K-Yo> compare CTOS or xtss to a TST server
23:53 <K-Yo> and tell me if you see the same thing
23:53 <K-Yo> I don't ><
23:53 <epsy> TST settings are the same than xtss's, except for max teams and map
23:53 <ivantis2> Clochettes are bells?
23:53 <epsy> now CTOS has no score_hole and way longer matches
23:54 <epsy> yes, smaller bells
23:54 <ivantis2> chrono is clock?
23:54 <epsy> prefix for time-related stuff
23:54 <K-Yo> epsy, and not same ammount of players max
23:55 <K-Yo> neither the same tails length nor the same number of zones
23:55 <ivantis2> what does chronometer mean? its an android thingy
23:55 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: http://www.verbatimsolutions.com/freetranslation.php
23:55 <epsy> can be abused into meaning "precisely timed"
23:55 <s0beit> epsy: With this version... WOW... all the server names are f*cked up
23:55 <s0beit> they are all underscores and ports
23:55 <epsy> ivantis2, meter, to do measures, and chrono meaning time
23:55 <epsy> s0beit, see forums
23:55 <K-Yo> s0beit, this version you dled is fucked up
23:55 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: I know online translation is horribly horrendous, the point is that website is rather neat for having real time translation :)
23:55 <K-Yo> .tea
23:55 <s0beit> hehe K-Yo
23:56 <K-Yo> #tea
23:56 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ¦<
23:56 <K-Yo> @tea
23:56 <teabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ¦<
23:56 <epsy> K-Yo, == max teams
23:56 <K-Yo> yup
23:56 <epsy> tails length is different? huh?
23:56 <K-Yo> I feel like that
23:56 <K-Yo> or the size factor
23:56 <epsy> ah, the bigger zone
23:56 <K-Yo> or the zone bigger
23:56 <K-Yo> ye
23:56 <ivantis2> Dépit is give up?
23:57 <K-Yo> nope
23:57 -!- Novocaine [n=yarrr@novocaine.ch] has joined #armagetron
23:57 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
23:57 <epsy> durka bashed me up on it being too small
23:57 <K-Yo> in "en dépit de" ?
23:57 <epsy> ivantis2, despite
23:57 <epsy> ivantis2, try replacing é and è's with 'es'
23:57 <nsh22> back
23:57 <ivantis2> its a mood expression
23:58 <s0beit> Novocaine: Do you have a minute?
23:58 <ivantis2> wait, é doesnt show up as e with acute?
23:58 <K-Yo> ivantis2, it does
23:58 <PinkTomato> isn't chronometer in the english dictionary?
23:58 <K-Yo> he meant when ur looking for a translation
23:59 <nsh22> what are you trying to translate?
23:59 <luke-jr> hey wow
23:59 <PinkTomato> nsh22: Loads and loads of words
23:59 <K-Yo> french
23:59 <luke-jr> major bug in 0.2.8-sty
23:59 -!- ivantis2 [n=fIRCuser@m600e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:59 <luke-jr> sumo_complete.cfg w/ fixed MAP_FILE does NOT work

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