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Log from 2009-01-10:
--- Day changed Sat Jan 10 2009
00:00 <TaZ> haha
00:00 <TaZ> i will remember to be more specific with you epsy
00:00 <epsy> it's not being more specific, it's not the saem thing
00:00 <PinkTomato> Oh, and knowing Apple, they probably wouldn't let you tell anyone that you have it anyway.
00:01 <epsy> talking about NDAs still didn't hear about a linux GL :(
00:01 <epsy> QL *
00:01 <TaZ> yea, don't they have a NDA?
00:02 <TaZ> epsy
00:02 <TaZ> the palm pre
00:02 <TaZ> what do you think?
00:02 <epsy> the what
00:02 <epsy> @g palm pre
00:02 <teabot> epsy: http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre/index.html - Palm.com : Shop : Pre
00:02 <PinkTomato> @g apple newton
00:02 <teabot> PinkTomato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton - Newton (platform) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:03 <TaZ> lol @ the newton
00:03 <epsy> half invisible phone!
00:03 <TaZ> haha
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00:04 <TaZ> i saw a preview of the browser..it was better than the iPhones
00:04 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/TaZ1.png
00:05 <TaZ> heh
00:05 <epsy> errr..windows mobile?
00:05 <TaZ> yes...:/
00:05 <TaZ> it also has wireless charging
00:05 <epsy> I wonder how many people use that
00:05 <TaZ> alot of poeple you winmo
00:06 <epsy> charging for using wifi .. at home?
00:06 <TaZ> wireless charging base
00:06 <TaZ> no wires needed
00:06 <epsy> ah
00:06 <TaZ> uses something with magnets
00:06 <epsy> and a dynamo?
00:07 <epsy> I didn't see anyone use windows mobile yet
00:07 <TaZ> idk, i haven't read into it
00:07 <TaZ> it's like those electric toothbrush stations
00:08 <TaZ> what do they use in Paris, symbian?
00:08 <epsy> since pretty much every phone out there uses symbian, under different flavors, yes
00:08 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r651 adding /team and /msg to chatlog when configured
00:10 <TaZ> no
00:10 <TaZ> you have winmo, BREW, android, palm's os
00:10 <TaZ> many more
00:10 <epsy> 90% is symbian-based
00:11 <epsy> (90% of sold units)
00:11 <TaZ> proof?
00:11 <epsy> read: most
00:11 <PinkTomato> isn't symbian only Nokia?
00:11 <TaZ> no
00:11 <epsy> proof? all mobile phone manufactures invest in symbian
00:11 <epsy> *almost all
00:12 <TaZ> but I don't believe that most phones are of the symbian os
00:12 <epsy> _that_ is why android isn't pushing in
00:12 <epsy> they are
00:12 <TaZ> Yes, some phone companies do, but not all
00:12 <TaZ> and some invest very little
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00:14 <epsy> except a very few phones in their arsenals, all of most phone manufacters will be symbian-based
00:14 <TaZ> Symbian is the main OS for Nokia phones and sometimes SE
00:14 <epsy> (and sometimes really lack decent work on it)
00:14 <epsy> yes
00:14 <epsy> Nokia is gonna buy it all
00:14 <TaZ> oh yea, i heard
00:15 <PinkTomato> I just remembered where I first shown armagetronad
00:15 <PinkTomato> work experience week :D
00:15 <epsy> you can put the word work in quotes already :D
00:15 <PinkTomato> lol :D
00:16 <TaZ> epsy, barely most of the mobile phone market use symbian
00:16 <epsy> most, except the very latest phones
00:16 <TaZ> no
00:17 <TaZ> early PDA's maybe
00:17 <epsy> probably because they don't bother to maintain their own flavor anymore, and s60 is too expensive or whatever
00:17 <TaZ> yea, I was just saying that most phones these days don't have symbian
00:18 <TaZ> nor back in the day
00:18 <TaZ> well maybe when Nokia ruled the market :P
00:18 <epsy> if you take all the phones that have been advertised last months, there are no symbians except s60's
00:18 <TaZ> yea
00:18 <TaZ> no wait
00:18 <TaZ> s40 too
00:18 <TaZ> I saw some
00:19 <epsy> it was not very advertised, I guess :)
00:19 <PinkTomato> Mobiles phone and text, they all do the same thing and never change much, yet people always strive to upgrade and get the new contract. So it may come with a new gimmicky feature, have you ever received a video call? People only use Mobiles for those primary functions, Call and Text.
00:19 <TaZ> in fact, i saw what looked like a N series phone, with s40
00:19 <TaZ> i was like..wtf?
00:19 <epsy> PinkTomato, camera
00:19 <epsy> TaZ, lol
00:20 <PinkTomato> epsy: Ah I forgot that one, yeah camera's are popular on phones, they are getting close to a proper one.
00:20 <epsy> PinkTomato, packing up the music player, camera and phone is something I want :) at least for the music player
00:20 <TaZ> n95 used to have one of the best mobile cameras
00:20 <epsy> it now doesn't have anymore? :)
00:21 <TaZ> nah, i think some one has beaten them to it
00:21 <TaZ> i'll have to find the link..it may have been another nokia actually..
00:21 <epsy> well, if you're just sticking to who's got the most megapenisses
00:21 <epsy> there was a 6MP one
00:21 <TaZ> nah, im talking quality wise
00:21 <epsy> dont know who from
00:21 <PinkTomato> it's the lens that counts anyway
00:22 <TaZ> epsy, http://www.engadgetmobile.com/  my favorite site
00:22 <TaZ> i love the carl zeiss lens that nokia uses
00:22 <epsy> IBM does phones?
00:22 <TaZ> oO
00:22 <PinkTomato> TaZ: iPhone?
00:22 <TaZ> they do?
00:23 <TaZ> iPhone's camera sucks haha
00:23 <epsy> http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/01/09/lenovos-android-powered-ophone-to-hit-china-mobile-this-quarter/
00:23 <PinkTomato> Oh I know! :D
00:23 <TaZ> I have one though
00:23 <epsy> PinkTomato, reviews say that it sucks to use
00:23 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: how about a new CTF map if there are more 8 players
00:23 <epsy> mainly because of the touchscreen interface
00:23 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: why what goes wrong with CTF over 8?
00:23 <epsy> it's like, you have a preview and you have to hide the preview to take a shot
00:23 <ct|kyle> too many people
00:24 <TaZ> i guess so epsy lol
00:24 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: is it? hmm...
00:24 <TaZ> i love iphone's UI
00:24 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: What would need to be different?
00:25 <TaZ> it was such a hard choice to choose between the n95 and the iphone
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00:25 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: what is the current MAP_FILE
00:25 <PinkTomato> That was easy for my friend, Nokia gave them one free for beta
00:25 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: just an idea i have
00:25 <TaZ> :o lucckyy
00:25 <TaZ> i still want a n96
00:26 <PinkTomato> TaZ: it broke Really quickly though,
00:26 <TaZ> was it the slider?
00:26 <ct|kyle> oi Concord
00:26 <PinkTomato> I think so
00:26 <TaZ> i heard a lot of bad things about it
00:26 <TaZ> ah
00:26 <Concord> hey, ky
00:27 <epsy> heh, sliders always break
00:27 <TaZ> i wish they would update the e90 :/
00:27 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: sorry for the wait: it is: MAP_FILE Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml(http://www.geocities.com/armagetron_maps/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml)
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00:27 <Guest96252> ??
00:28 <epsy> you were using a registered + protected nick, apparently
00:28 <PinkTomato> Guest96252: don't look at us, you are the one that renamed yourself
00:28 <Guest96252> "NickServ	taz_!i=aabdalla@hyperion.dreamhost.com has released your nickname."
00:28 <Guest96252> I didnt
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00:29 <PinkTomato> Concord: spork is working now without conflicting configurations :)
00:29 <Concord> =D w00t!
00:29 <TaZ_> htc makes the ugliest phones epsy
00:30 <Concord> wd!
00:30 <TaZ_> except for the touch HD
00:30 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: can you pastebin the serverside one?
00:30 <epsy> lol
00:30 <epsy> why are you talking about htc now?
00:30 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Could I use $_SESSION['players']= <<NUM_OF_PLAYERS>>
00:30 <TaZ_> i was looking at some of their announced phones at CES
00:30 <PinkTomato> I've not worked out how to solve the statelessness in scripts
00:32 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it already looks like you're wanting to use session variables for it
00:32  * epsy wants QL for linux :((
00:33 <Lucifer> QL?
00:33 <epsy> quakelive
00:33 <epsy> basically, q3a, free of charge, from any browser
00:33 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: ignore the PLAYER_ENTERED bit, that was a little fun I was having :). http://pastebin.com/d2d48afbb
00:34 <TaZ_> why can't you play it on linux?
00:34 <epsy> they dont have linux builds yet
00:35 <TaZ_> ah
00:35 <TaZ_> will this work for mac?
00:35 <epsy> they dont have mac builds yet
00:35 <TaZ_> :|
00:35 <epsy> they say they will work on osx support, then on lin ux support, although it seems someone's already working on the linux port
00:35 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: you would still have to set it with the
00:35 <ct|kyle> #llog NUM_
00:36 <@armabot> ct|kyle: NUM_HUMANS: [number_of_players]
00:36 <TaZ_> ok
00:36 <epsy> also, luke-jr will be happy as they use XMPP
00:36 <epsy> and Lucifer for the fact they use python for some parts
00:37 <epsy> and BabyBug, too!
00:37 <Lucifer> beind id, the company run by the armadillo aerospace guy, isn't already enough?
00:37 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: but I still could use $_SESSION like a webpage?
00:37 <BabyBug> hello?
00:37 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I think so
00:37 <TaZ_> ql will use XMPP?
00:37 <PinkTomato> I'll try it.
00:37 <epsy> TaZ_, for buddy management and, apparently, authentication
00:37 <TaZ_> o
00:38 <epsy> (it already does, as reported by some players)
00:39 <epsy> (for the python part, a mail reveals it all, muahahaha <https://mailman.ik.nu/pipermail/twisted-jabber/2008-May/000149.html>)
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00:44 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: $_SESSION didn't work
00:44 <ct|kyle> just use $num_players or something
00:45 <PinkTomato> ah, but its stateless?
00:45 <PinkTomato> I can't get the information from another line
00:45 <PinkTomato> wondering whats the best way to do it, last time I wrote a temporary file to disk
00:46 <epsy> good night
00:46 <PinkTomato> night epsy:)
00:46 <ct|kyle> good night epsy :)
00:48  * PinkTomato forgot  session_start()
00:48  * epsy slaps PinkTomato 
00:48 <Hoax> nn peps
00:49 <TaZ_> g'nite epsy
00:49 <PinkTomato> night Hoax :)
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00:49 <Hoax> trying to get rid of me PinkTomato? :|
00:50 <Lucifer> what are you trying to do, PinkTomato (hi there!) ?
00:50 <PinkTomato> Hoax you said nn peps, as in night to all, rather than to one :)
00:51 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I'm trying to store the variable NUM_HUMANS to use on the line ROUND_COMMENCING
00:51 <Hoax> peps as in epsy ;/
00:51 <Lucifer> er, I was wanting a more foresty answer, you gave me a tree
00:52 <PinkTomato> Hoax ah didn't make that connection :)
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00:52 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I gave you a tree?
00:52 <Lucifer> yeah
00:52 <PinkTomato> and you need a forest?
00:53 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer
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00:53 <Lucifer> it looks to me like you've made a design error, so I was asking what you were trying to design :)
00:55 <PinkTomato> OK, I am reading every line one at a time in ladderlog.txt. Using CTSTY and PHP. When NUM_HUMANS appear, I want to store that integer, so that when ROUND_COMMENCING appears, I can make a decision to load one map when there are less people, and another map when there are lots of people. :).
00:56 <Lucifer> ok, and why do you need session variables?  Regular variables should work fine for that
00:56 <Lucifer> $num_humans = whatever;
00:56 <Lucifer> the hard part is telling the server to change the map :)
00:57 <PinkTomato> PHP is stateless?
00:57 <Lucifer> php is a scripting language
00:57 <Lucifer> http is stateless
00:58 <PinkTomato> $humans did not work, and I think its the way I call the script in bash,  it reads the line, opens php, php processes and php closes.
00:58 <Lucifer> heh, yeah, that's bad design :)
00:58 <Lucifer> you need to write it as a program, not a webpage
00:59 <Lucifer> so, use loops and stuff
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01:00 <PinkTomato> OK, I'll see if CT wiki helps, I think I saw what I need to do on that
01:06 <PinkTomato> Thanks Lucifer :), stuck a while (1), now works :)
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01:20 <PinkTomato> damn is it normal to have people trying random user logins with names such as maegan etc?
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01:23 <PinkTomato> hi sinewav :)
01:23 <sinewav> hi there
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01:23 <PinkTomato> wb Concord
01:23 <Concord> thanx
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01:35 <PinkTomato> Concord what did you want SERVER_NAME to be?
01:35 <Concord> er
01:36 <Concord> 0x775588the 0xffffffTRONIC 0x775588Spork
01:36 <Concord> perhaps?
01:36 <Concord> =}
01:39 <PinkTomato> #sd spork
01:39 <@armabot> PinkTomato: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “spork” at the moment, sorry.
01:40 <ct|kyle> #si spork
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01:40 <@armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “spork” at the moment, sorry.
01:41 <PinkTomato> I forgot to put server_name behind it *embrass*
01:41 <ct|kyle> heh i did that once
01:42 <PinkTomato> That name is pretty neat :D
01:42  * PinkTomato likes colours
01:43 <PinkTomato> royal Purple :D
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01:44 <PinkTomato> #si spork
01:44 <@armabot> PinkTomato: the TRONIC Spork: Players (0/16):
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01:50 <smoothice> PinkTomato: nice job lol
01:59 <smoothice> PinkTomato: map still broken
01:59 <smoothice> PinkTomato: locked out by 404
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02:24 <Concord> #si spork
02:24 <@armabot> Concord: the TRONIC Spork: Players (5/16): <backspace>, Ct_Concord (Concord@ct), nroc, Pink Tomatoes, Roy
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02:56 <PinkTomato> Concord: You have a link on playfortress that instead of leading to Wilid West, has a quick description of the Israel-Palestine conflict :)
02:56 <Concord> do i?
02:56 <Concord> xP
02:56 <Concord> where?
02:57 <PinkTomato> :D Barometer: the most "significant of these" was found at Lagtest.net.
02:58 <Concord> wups
02:59 <Concord> ty
03:00 <PinkTomato> :)
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05:44 <smoothice> #ubuntu
05:44 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
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13:04 <i2020> breep
13:10 <epsy> oh crap, I now have USD 12.600.000
13:10 <epsy> in my junk mail
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13:29 <i2020> big problem epsy
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14:33 <BabyBug> o/
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14:49 <PinkTomato> morning o/
15:02 <K-Yo> oi :)
15:03 <K-Yo> (15:03 here xD)
15:04 <PinkTomato> hehe :D, Only just realised that it's 2pm already! :)
15:08 <K-Yo> :)
15:08 <K-Yo> 15 = 3pm :/
15:15 <PinkTomato> 2pm here* already, whoops :)
15:18 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, aren't you in the US?
15:18 <K-Yo> I thought so...
15:18 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: nope, UK :D
15:18 <PinkTomato> my server is, confusingly :)
15:19 <K-Yo> :)
15:21 <K-Yo> wow
15:21 <K-Yo> epsy, you there?
15:21 <K-Yo> is the latest windows trunk supposed to work?
15:22 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: it dosen't work for either?
15:22 <PinkTomato> mine has ___ everywhere
15:22 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, yeah, same!
15:22 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, and seem fullscreen key doesn't work either
15:22 <PinkTomato> it's so wierd!
15:22 <PinkTomato> or the console input
15:22 <K-Yo> same?
15:22 <K-Yo> did u do some screen shots?
15:23 <PinkTomato> It just crashes a lot. only one: http://dessert.ath.cx/underscored_arma.png
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15:25 <K-Yo> yeah
15:25 <K-Yo> hey zmanuel
15:25 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: Compiled a debug version though,
15:25 <PinkTomato> that one works fine
15:25 <zmanuel> whut?
15:25 <K-Yo> zmanuel, what about the latest (trunk) win built ?
15:25 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
15:26 <z-man> what about it? I didn't do one.
15:26 <K-Yo> hmmm
15:26 <K-Yo> maybe wrtl did then
15:26 <z-man> And I'm still busy with other stuff here.
15:26 <K-Yo> :)
15:26 <K-Yo> gl then ;)
15:26 <K-Yo> I won't annoy you with it :)
15:26 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: I think z-man posted something regarding the build scripts are what are likely causing it, being out of date
15:27 <z-man> Out of date and incomplete by design.
15:27 <z-man> Lucifer's move to python may fix both :)
15:28 <BabyBug> \o/ python
15:28 <Lucifer> I have to admit I'm not seeing how, but it's likely there's just stuff that isn't being done in windows that needs to be done
15:28  * Lucifer is working on it still, just hungry right now
15:28 <z-man> Feel free to delegate some scripts. Just not to me right now :)
15:29 <z-man> (later perhaps, but we're home again and I have lots of cleaning up and shopping to do to make life with three legs possible)
15:29 <z-man> three healty legs.
15:29 <z-man> between two people.
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15:38 <Lucifer> heh, I tried to get epsy to rewrite version as a python script :)
15:38 <BabyBug> fail miserably Lucifer?
15:39 <Lucifer> he's working in the trunk, and I haven't checked to see if he did it
15:40  * Lucifer needs to re-work how resources are copied from proto to included
15:51 <Lucifer> that's neat
15:51 <Lucifer> if you're writing a comment line in Kate, and you want to make the next line a comment line,
15:51 <Lucifer> press shift-return and it'll be made so
15:51 <BabyBug> kate?
15:51 <madmax> don't you use the editor you've written? :P
15:51 <PinkTomato> KDE text editor I think ?
15:52 <PinkTomato> I'll remember that tip :)
15:57 <Lucifer> madmax: no, I don't use it anymore
15:57 <Lucifer> never finished porting it to qt4
15:57 <Lucifer> and I needed stuff from it that I just didn't have time to add :(
15:58 <madmax> oh
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16:19 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: I think the problems with the current windows build is related to the use of option -O2 when compiling. I have no idea what -O2 does. :)
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16:23 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: I'm sure that's the problem now, something is causing -O2 to fail in windows, I have a working windows armagetron 0.3.1 now :)
16:42 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, okay
16:42 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, u got a bin? :D
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16:49 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: a binary? try: http://dessert.ath.cx/download/armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha2.win32_compileoption.exe :)
16:50 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, ty :)
17:08 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: does it work?
17:08 <Lucifer> obviously, he's been off playing for 18 minutes now
17:09 <PinkTomato> hehe, Lucifer :)
17:09 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: check the incam view with the default cockpit ;)
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17:17 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: -O2 is just to set the level of code optimization
17:17 <Lucifer> performance may suffer, but how can it be called suffering if the game doesn't work when optimized?
17:19 <Lucifer> ok, I can't concentrate, I'm just too hungry
17:19 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: ah :), sounds like it'll be a pain to debug though
17:26 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, what's stragne there?
17:27 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: Strange where :)?
17:28 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, cockpit
17:28 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: Has voodoo's Rear-view :)
17:28 <K-Yo> orly?
17:28 <K-Yo> not for me :/
17:30 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, I don't have default xD
17:30 <PinkTomato> you have the minimal cockpit_file i think :)
17:30 <PinkTomato> K-Yo:  :) hehe
17:30 <K-Yo> I have sol's
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17:42 <ivantis2> whats someones AIM? i just got a new one
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17:49 <nsh22> hey
17:51 <K-Yo> hi nsh22
17:52 <ivantis2> z-man, you have AIM right? username?
17:52 <z-man> I have it, but I don't use it.
17:52 <nsh22> y are ther 3 ivantises
17:53 <ivantis2> different computers
17:53 <nsh22> oh
17:53 <PinkTomato> but there's only one ivantis
17:54 <nsh22> lol
17:54 <nsh22> i kind figured that
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17:57 <animuson> hes not even here >_> u coulda just told me :P
17:57 <PinkTomato> #seen hoop
17:57 <@armabot> PinkTomato: hoop was last seen in #armagetron 3 weeks, 0 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <hoop> ah!
17:57 <PinkTomato> hoop's been on a long absence
17:57 <nsh22> #seen neal
17:57 <@armabot> nsh22: I have not seen neal.
17:58 <nsh22> #seen nsh22
17:58 <@armabot> nsh22: nsh22 was last seen in #armagetron 11 seconds ago: <nsh22> #seen neal
18:05 <ivantis2> dude. where is hoop gone?
18:06 <ivantis2> we were working on something together
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18:07 <PinkTomato> probably just Christmas :)
18:10 <K-Yo> #ls hoop
18:10 <madmax> hoop was on just yesterday
18:11 <@armabot> K-Yo: -»|hoop has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 17 hours 14 minutes ago.
18:11 <K-Yo> today too
18:11 <Lizmatic> #ls flex
18:11 <K-Yo> well
18:11 <Lizmatic> #ls sav
18:11 <ivantis2> yeah. i probably wouldnt have been online during break so much if i didnt have a G1
18:11 <@armabot> Lizmatic: Flexgirl has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 4 hours 47 minutes ago.
18:11 <@armabot> Lizmatic: j1qsavv has last been seen on The YELLOW Submarine 3 hours 57 minutes ago.
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18:28 <nsh22> my comp crashed :( stupid windows movie maker
18:29 <madmax> lol
18:29 <nsh22> #ident
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18:29 <nsh22> #identify
18:29 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
18:29 <nsh22> hey david pinto
18:32 <nsh22> i need more pie
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18:33 <P4> teabot: echo whoami
18:33 <teabot> whoami
18:33 <P4> teabot: echo #whoami
18:33 <teabot> #whoami
18:33 <@armabot> teabot: I don't recognize you.
18:34 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1279548933.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
18:34 <nsh22> #identidy
18:34 <nsh22> #identify
18:34 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
18:36  * nsh22 has more pie
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18:48 <ivantis2> oop! google has changed their icon once more
18:48 <nsh22> lol
18:48 <nsh22> i noticed that as well
18:48 <ivantis2> i just now noticed
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18:53 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/ctf/ctf_spork-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
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19:03 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: PING
19:04 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: pong :)
19:14 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: never mind, was testing new map, but server has errors
19:14 <PinkTomato> oh :)
19:17 <nsh22> ello
19:27 <ivantis2> anyone here have a Wii?
19:27 <nsh22> no
19:28 <ivantis2> really? it only took you that long to pm everyone to ask if they have a wii?
19:28 <Lucifer> I have to take a wii
19:28 <Lucifer> I have a wii wii
19:28 <Lucifer> wii, this is fun
19:29 <nsh22> lol how about wii stop this be for wii cant control ourselves any longer XD
19:29 <nsh22> jk
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19:32 <madmax> reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6hhvvWltWc
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19:51 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
19:51 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
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20:12 <akira_arma> @tea
20:12 <teabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:17 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m320e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
20:18 <ivantis2> do you believe this? ivantis is already taken as a screenname on AIM
20:19 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m320e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Client Quit]
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20:42 <madmax> #googlefight ivantis notivantis
20:42 <Lizz> hi maxxy
20:44 <epsy> one more liz around here
20:45 <epsy> #fight ivantis ivantis2 ivantis3
20:45 <@armabot> epsy: Error: The command "fight" is available in the Alias, Google, and Sourceforge plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "fight".
20:45 <epsy> #google fight ivantis ivantis2 ivantis3
20:45 <@armabot> epsy: ivantis: 3290, ivantis2: 123, ivantis3: 54
20:45 <epsy> @nickometer
20:45 <Lizz> epsy: i dont hang around.. i just float in and out lol
20:45 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "epsy" is 0.0%.
20:45 <epsy> @nickometer ivantis
20:45 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis" is 0.0%.
20:45 <epsy> @nickometer ivantis2
20:45 <epsy> @nickometer ivantis3
20:45 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis2" is 14.2%.
20:45 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis3" is 21.5%.
20:46 <epsy> haha
20:46 <madmax> ooh, hi Lizz!
20:46 <Lizz> :)
20:46 <Lizz> how ya been maxxy?
20:47 <akira_arma> @tea
20:47 <teabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:47 <epsy> akira_arma, 1 min
20:47 <Flex> @nickometer flex
20:47 <teabot> Flex: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "flex" is 0.0%.
20:47 <madmax> good, you?
20:47 <Flex> woho
20:47 <epsy> @nickometer madmax
20:47 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "madmax" is 0.0%.
20:48 <epsy> damn :)
20:48 <Lizz> pretty good.. same old same old lol
20:49 <madmax> did you get to meet mel gibson already? :-P
20:49 <Lizz> ages ago :P
20:49 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m320e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
20:49 <ivantis2> lame nick ometer? how does this work?
20:49 <Lizz> i have dinner with him and his family every couple of months lmao
20:50 <ivantis2> #nickometer
20:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis2" is 14.2%.
20:50 <ivantis2> #nickometer guru3
20:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "guru3" is 21.5%.
20:50 <madmax> lol
20:50 <ivantis2> with numbers is lame? how lame
20:50 <epsy> yeah Numb3r5 are l4m3
20:51 <ivantis2> #help nickometer
20:51 <@armabot> ivantis2: (nickometer [<nick>]) -- Tells you how lame said nick is. If <nick> is not given, uses the nick of the person giving the command.
20:51 <epsy> @nickometer ε
20:51 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ε" is 38.4%.
20:51 <epsy> :<
20:51 <BabyBug> @nickometer
20:52 <BabyBug> =(
20:52 <epsy> @nickometer
20:52 <epsy> crappy bot
20:52 <BabyBug> #nickometer
20:52 <@armabot> BabyBug: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "BabyBug" is 0.0%.
20:52 <BabyBug> \o/
20:52 <epsy> incoming netsplit or just freeze
20:53 <ivantis2> ?
20:53 <epsy> lets see
20:53 <ivantis2> what?
20:53 <epsy> sounds as if there's going to be a netsplit soon
20:54 <ivantis2> i didnt hear anything
20:54 <BabyBug> exactly!
20:54 <epsy> agnagnagna learn to read
20:54 -!- Netsplit simmons.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: The_Master, Ttech[daedalus], Stewah, teabot, ivantis, Flex, MrBougo
20:54 <BabyBug> ^^
20:54 <epsy> told you :)
20:55 <ivantis2> how correct
20:55 <ivantis2> wolfe split
20:55 <epsy> and actually, WE got split
20:55 <BabyBug> epsy, liar! we have more people...we're more dominant!
20:55 <ivantis2> really?
20:55 -!- The_Master [n=master@broke.the.quantumuniverse.net] has joined #armagetron
20:55 <epsy> whois yourself
20:55 -!- Netsplit over, joins: teabot, Flex, MrBougo, Stewah, Ttech[daedalus]
20:56 <ivantis2> uh it said i was online in whois..?
20:56 <epsy> what?
20:56 <ivantis2> also said i was on wolfe
20:56 <ivantis2> weid
20:57 <ivantis2> yes weid, very weid
20:57 <epsy> didn't get a word of it anyway
20:58 <ivantis2> whatever
20:58 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m320e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit ["-a-"]
20:59 <epsy> darn, please split ivantis
21:01 <epsy> what was the thread with people having trouble downgrading to 0.2.8 after having tried the 0.3.* builds ?
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21:06 <epsy> grm, I'm lost
21:08 <MaZuffeR> Go that way! No, the other way!
21:09 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18941&highlight=server+browser
21:10 <epsy> found the problem
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21:30 <Lucifer> I'm supposed to turn left, right?
21:31 <MaZuffeR> right
21:31  * Lucifer turns right
21:32 <MaZuffeR> not that right, the other right
21:33 <Lucifer> I may have solved my mp3 player while working out problem
21:33 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Cockpit_Tutorial
21:33 <epsy> oops
21:33 <Lucifer> I found the necklace thing they gave me on my nasa trip, the kind that you attach a name tag/security badge to
21:33 <akira_arma> @tea
21:34 <teabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): .:] JJBean, .:] W33D, Hanniz, Luzifer (Lacrymosa@forums), Pseudonymous, Slice, ~|DS|~zion, ~|DS|~|Hype|~, °~BaBâ
21:34 <Lucifer> it was trivial to hang my mp3 player on it, and it hangs down where the earphone cable can actually reach and still give my head freedom of motion
21:35 <Lucifer> now I need to see if it'll work while riding my bike ;)
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21:41 <madmax> I recently found that you can't use both earphones at the same time according to portuguese law (while riding a bicycle on the road)
21:41 <PinkTomato> does that mean it is illegal to cycle if you can't hear?
21:42 <PinkTomato> that's interesting law though,
21:43 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-113-167.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
21:43 <madmax> I don't think it's enforced at all heh
21:43 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
21:43 <PinkTomato> Hearing is handy when your cycling
21:44 <BabyBug> 0.3.1 sucks
21:44 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: what's wrong with it?
21:44 <epsy> ubuntu sucks
21:44 <PinkTomato> ubuntu or windows? easy choice
21:44 <epsy> ubuntu still sucks
21:44 <BabyBug> On 0.3.0 i was getting 200FPS...on 0.3.1 i'm getting 59FPS...
21:45  * epsy slaps BabyBug 
21:45 <PinkTomato> epsy: does debian suck?
21:45  * smoothice slaps epsy
21:45 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: isn't that ideal?
21:45 <epsy> doesn't the 60fps sound like anything to you BabyBug ?
21:45 <smoothice> epsy: ubuntu rocks
21:45 <epsy> PinkTomato, a bit
21:46 <epsy> smoothice, not ubuntu's FTGL
21:46 <PinkTomato> epsy: what would you use?
21:46 <BabyBug> epsy, no?
21:46 <epsy> I use arch
21:46 <epsy> BabyBug, vsync
21:46 <fonkay> Lucifer: A lanyard does not sound like a good idea.
21:46 <fonkay> Or it's proven not good for me at least.
21:46 <BabyBug> epsy, i've tried that on every single setting..it doesnt change anything..
21:46 <Lucifer> lanyard?
21:46 <fonkay> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanyard
21:47  * PinkTomato wishes I could get vsync to work
21:47 <fonkay> "I necklace thingy for holing things"
21:47 <fonkay> holding*
21:47 <Lucifer> ahhh
21:47 <Lucifer> it worked for jogging, my stick workout, and juggling :)
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21:48 <fonkay> I'm surprise it worked for jogging.
21:48 <Lucifer> I put it under my shirt
21:48 <fonkay> I always found that it bounced around far too much to be comfortable.
21:48 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: -10F for me next Friday
21:48 <Lucifer> maybe it helps that I put it under my bra ;)
21:48 <fonkay> hehe
21:49 <fonkay> I preferred the armband personally.
21:49 <Lucifer> well, I did have to carry my stick when I was jogging, so I carried it across my chest and held the mp3 player in place
21:49 <BabyBug> Lucifer has moobs? :o
21:49 <Lucifer> BabyBug: NO!
21:50 <BabyBug> mwahaha moob man!
21:50 <Lucifer> but my belly is returning, and I have to do something about that
21:50 <ct|kyle> #g -10F in C
21:50 <fonkay> my mp3 player came with both.
21:50 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (-10) degrees Fahrenheit = -23.3333333 degrees Celsius
21:50 <Lucifer> my mp3 player didn't come with any way to strap it to me
21:50 <smoothice> #g 1 percent in fraction
21:50 <@armabot> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:51 <ct|kyle> nice Back to my favorite temps :)
21:51  * ct|kyle will be able to walk outside and hear the snow crunching under his feet
21:52 <fonkay> But yea... if you know it works for you already then. All the power to you
21:56 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
21:56 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 30.4°F (2:56 PM CST on January 10, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Steady).
21:57 <ivantis2> did you know: lawrence has the 2nd highest percentage of professional musicians in the world?
21:57 <PinkTomato> #cinf -7.2
21:57 <@armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
21:57 <PinkTomato> :'(
21:58 <PinkTomato> #g -7.2 centigrade in f
21:58 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (-7.2) degrees Celsius = 19.04 degrees Fahrenheit
21:58 <ivantis2> #help cinf
21:59 <@armabot> ivantis2: (cinf <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo You don't need this, just use Math convert".
21:59 <PinkTomato> Channel 6 Downtown?
21:59 <PinkTomato> #help tea
21:59 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (tea <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo cafe".
21:59 <ivantis2> PinkTomato: yeah?
21:59 <ivantis2> local tv station here
21:59 <PinkTomato> Why is there a community name based upon a TV station?
22:00 <ivantis2> community name?
22:01 <ivantis2> i think that is the nearest place they measure temperature and such here
22:01 <PinkTomato> Oh, So it's not a district/suburb(that's the word is was after) of a town/city?
22:01 <ivantis2> no
22:02 <PinkTomato> ah :), that's OK then
22:02 <ivantis2> just a building for news/weather
22:03 <Flex> #ls lizmatic
22:03 <@armabot> Flex: Lizmatic has last been seen on Fortress Café 4 hours 2 minutes ago.
22:03 <ivantis2> #weather 66046
22:03 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.3°F (3:03 PM CST on January 10, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady).
22:03 <ivantis2> yeah, nearest weather place is how its measured
22:03 <Flex> #weather london
22:03 <@armabot> Flex: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:04 <PinkTomato> #weather London, UK
22:04 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 28.4°F (8:50 PM GMT on January 10, 2009). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
22:04 <PinkTomato> #thank
22:04 <@armabot> You're welcome, PinkTomato
22:05 <Flex> hey i knew that..
22:05 -!- Nick2 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1279548933.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:05 <Nick2> hey
22:05 <Nick2> ffs
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22:05 <PinkTomato> Flex: hehe :)
22:05 <ivantis2> ?
22:05 <Flex> where's lizmatic :(
22:06 <epsy> BabyBug, gfx drivers?
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22:08 <BabyBug> epsy, installed and up to date
22:08 <epsy> BabyBug, what are your gfx drivers?
22:09 <BabyBug> nvidia-180..
22:09 <BabyBug> 180.18
22:09 -!- Nick2 [n=Neal@bas3-barrie18-1279548933.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:09 <Nick2> ok, these nicks are pissing me off
22:10 <epsy> BabyBug, check in the nvidia control panel then
22:10 <Nick2> its neal btw
22:10 <epsy> Nick2, ok?
22:10 <ivantis2> what nicks?
22:10 <Nick2> my name settings
22:10 <Nick2> for irc
22:10 <epsy> "Nick2" I presume
22:10 <Nick2> im neal
22:10 <epsy> I've seen your username
22:10 <ivantis2> so change them?
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22:11 <Nick2> im trying but its being gay
22:11 <Nick2> ill ry again
22:11 <epsy> change irc client?
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22:12 <Nick2> FFS
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22:12 <BabyBug> epsy, ooopsy ^^ ty =P
22:12 <epsy> BabyBug, what about the FTGL stuff?
22:12 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: what was it Oo
22:13 <BabyBug> epsy, When it's compiled using FTGL 2.1.2 (i'm using the .package file to install it) It all seems to work fine. No crashes and the characters display correctly aswell
22:13 <epsy> statically linked, right?
22:13 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, i needed to tick "Sync to VBlank" in nvidia-settings
22:13 <BabyBug> epsy, i'm guessing so...
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22:15 <nsh22> wewt
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22:29 <epsy> also, hoop spotted on forums
22:36 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-113-167.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
22:36 <nsh22> hey smooth
22:36 <smoothice> hi
22:37 <smoothice> neal
22:37 <smoothice> join #smoothice
22:38 <smoothice> nsh22: join #smoothice
22:43 <Lucifer> epsy: I've been statically linking my ftgl to the autopackage build, since people who keep up with the newest ubuntu have a broken ftgl
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22:43 <PinkTomato> what version of FTGL is broken?
22:44 -!- Concord is now known as Guest34328
22:44 <Lucifer> whatever version ships with kubuntu 8.10
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22:44 <BabyBug> 2.1.3 rc5
22:44 <BabyBug> i think..
22:44 <PinkTomato> I have 2.1.2-3 Oo
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22:45 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: do you have a segfault when you look at the server browser?
22:45 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you have hardy heron?
22:45 <BabyBug> Intrepid Ibex is the one which introduced 2.1.3 rc5
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22:46 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: Everything is ok here, BabyBug: just googling those names know, I prefer numbers
22:46 <BabyBug> 8.04 = hardy heron
22:46 <BabyBug> 8.10 = intrepid ibex
22:46 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: you right, 8.04
22:46 <Lucifer> that's the same version I've got
22:46 <PinkTomato> i could have sworn I hat 8.10 :)
22:47 <BabyBug> 8.04 still has the working ftgl =(
22:47 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you know you want to upgrade! xD
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22:47 <Lucifer> heh, not before 0.3.1 is released
22:47 <BabyBug> *growls*
22:47 <PinkTomato> Can't you just download the 8.04 .deb :)?
22:47 <Lucifer> although that's taking a little longer than I hoped
22:47 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, won't install =(
22:47 <PinkTomato> aw :(
22:48 <Lucifer> we also need to fix our configure script to be able to use a different ftgl anyway
22:48 <Lucifer> then babybug could build her own ftgl and just use that
22:48 <BabyBug> build my own ftgl?
22:48 <Lucifer> yeah
22:49 <BabyBug> uh..*confused*
22:49 <Lucifer> download an older version of ftgl, build it and have it install somewhere else, like ~/.local
22:49 <BabyBug> Lucifer, and older version of ftgl won't compile with GCC 4.3 (which i have)
22:49 <Lucifer> the problem is, you can't tell our configure script to use an ftgl that's installed somewhere else
22:49 <Lucifer> really?
22:49 <BabyBug> really
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22:49 <Lucifer> install an older compiler :)
22:49 <BabyBug> ...
22:50 <Lucifer> doesn't matter right now, our configure script doesn't successfully let you use a different ftgl than the system one anyway
22:50 <BabyBug> i'd rather wait for a fix than downgrade everything :P
22:50 <Lucifer> distributions usually allow an option to use an older compiler without downgrading everything
22:50 <BabyBug> Oh yeh!
22:50 <nsh22> hey luke
22:52 <BabyBug> but still..i'd rather a fix! =P
22:53 <BabyBug> and Lucifer..i thought the configure script had a --with-ftgl=/path/here thingy?
22:53 <BabyBug> wouldn't that work?
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23:09 <luke-jr> nsh22: hey, can you use email? XD
23:10 <luke-jr> BabyBug: AFAIK, the FTGL thing is a FTGL bug, not Armagetron bug
23:10 <luke-jr> therefore, the fix comes from FTGL
23:11 <BabyBug> shifting the blame...typical
23:11 <nsh22> yes i can
23:12 <nsh22> any specxifc info?
23:12 <Lucifer> BabyBug: that configure option doesn't work, as I recently learned ;)
23:12 <BabyBug> oh...lol
23:13 <Lucifer> whoah, this is the first twg game where the worms win, isn't it?
23:13 <epsy> yup
23:13 <Lucifer> well, I need a shower, and I need to go buy some more orange juice
23:13 <Lucifer> bbiab
23:14 <Lucifer> (I also need to quit drinking orange juice like water)
23:14 <nsh22> lol
23:14 <nsh22> i need to go to the store right now as well, damnit
23:14 <nsh22> byby
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23:23 <madmax> #sd ess 2
23:23 <@armabot> madmax: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2: Players (6/26): Ct_Concord (Concord@ct), CT_emmy, MrRAM, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~|Alien|~
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23:50 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!"]
23:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8783 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nServerInfo.cpp): Manuel Moos: Don't spam about unknown tags in server config files.
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