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Log from 2008-12-26:
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01:46 <hang3r> come mud puddle for some old school fun
01:50 <akira_arma> :O
01:51 <Lizmatic> pudmuddle
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02:42 <noob13> teabot: servers
02:42 <noob13> @armaservers
02:42 <teabot> noob13: This data is 19 seconds old; -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (10/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), |FA| BLACK TAR (6/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (6/12), z0mbie Nati0n (5/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (4/16), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (3/12), Swampland Mud Puddle (3/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (3/12), WILDCAT (2/8), (1 more message)
02:45 <ct|kyle> .sumo
02:45 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (6/12): alf, C$ DRUG, ct¤ky13, jfacas_Portugal, MrNüMb3, |x| $ubzero
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05:40 <teabot> armablah: Armagetron Advanced · find freebies <http://www.find-freebies.org/armagetron-advanced/>
06:09 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: ping
06:09 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: armabot was spamming the channel with connect/disconnects, so got banned
06:10 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: when you get it fixed, let someone know so they can remove the ban :)
06:10 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: it looked like just two instances of armabot running on the same machine, competing for space in the channel
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06:51 <hang3r> come back to that server you were just on lucifer
06:51 <Lucifer> no!
06:51 <Lucifer> I'm doing team sumo now
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07:17 <hang3r> im too drunk, it requires reflexes and response times whihc i currently do not have
07:17 <hang3r> lucifer, annoying popup box which will interupt you during your game
07:18 <Lucifer> heh
07:18 <Lucifer> you said that right after I died
07:18 <hang3r> :(
07:18 <hang3r> aw
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11:52 <Lizmatic> o/
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15:22 <teabot> armablah: Halfbakery: Protron <http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Protron>
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18:24 <animuson> anyone know how to install armagetron dedicated on a vps?
18:26 <epsy> the same way you install armagetron-dedicated on another machine?
18:26 <animuson> i dont know how to use linux :P
18:27 <epsy> what distribution?
18:27 <animuson> CentOS 5.x
18:28 <epsy> do you want to install stable, alpha, or latest 0.2.8 ?
18:29 <hang3r> and would you like fries with that?
18:29 <animuson> latest 0.2.8
18:29 <animuson> and no i dont like fries XD
18:29 <epsy> animuson, find a way to install bzr with centOS
18:31 <epsy> yum install bzr, most probably
18:40 <animuson> EOFError: EOF when reading a line
18:40 <epsy> uh?
18:40 <animuson> the bzr install errors out
18:41 <epsy> complete output?
18:41 <epsy> use pastebin.com if it is too long
18:42 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m874c66f
18:43 <epsy> BabyBug? :D
18:43 <epsy> animuson, I had no idea what's causing this, you should ask the centOS guys about that
18:44 <epsy> they see to hang around in #centos
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18:49 <smoothice> animuson/
18:49 <smoothice> Did you mention CentOS 5.x?
18:50 <animuson> yea :P
18:50 <smoothice> ok
18:50 <smoothice> What's the problem?
18:50 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m874c66f
18:50 <smoothice> You're trying to install bazaar?
18:50 <animuson> yea
18:51 <animuson> epsy said i needed it :P
18:55 <smoothice> Well
18:55 <smoothice> You do
18:55 <smoothice> But you can obtain the source without it.
18:55 <animuson> ...
18:55 <smoothice> What branch are you trying to build?
18:55 <animuson> what branch?
18:57 <smoothice> https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad
18:58 <animuson> o.O
18:58 <smoothice> Are you trying to build the branch with sty pre-patched?
18:58 <smoothice> Or the standard 0.2.8 branch
18:59 <Lizmatic> does arma have a vent channel?
19:00 <animuson> whats sty?
19:01 <smoothice> CTF/CTFS is sty
19:01 <animuson> oh no
19:01 <smoothice> ok
19:01 <smoothice> so you want standard branch?
19:01 <animuson> i guess :P
19:01 <smoothice> ok
19:02 <smoothice> Here's the link to the standard source: http://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad/0.2.8/
19:03 <smoothice> No special patches, nothing.
19:03 <animuson> so download and upload?
19:04 <epsy> well, that's stable
19:05 <animuson> smooth?
19:05 <epsy> or download directly from the remote machine :)
19:06 <luke-jr> epsy: please update fetch.php
19:06 <epsy> from?
19:07 <epsy> @g armagetron epsy fetch.php
19:07 <teabot> epsy: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18519 - Armagetron Forums :: View topic - missing some commands?
19:07 <epsy> http://beta.armagetronad.net/fetch.php ?
19:09 <animuson> how do i use this file i downloaded?
19:12 <epsy> how to extract it?
19:12 <animuson> yea :P
19:12 <epsy> tar xvf archive
19:12 <epsy> use <tab> for autocompletition of file names
19:13 <animuson> replace archive with the file path?
19:14 <Lizmatic> DOES ARMA HAVE A VENT CHANNEL?!?!?!?!??
19:15 <hang3r> this is the vent channel :D
19:15 <hang3r> well its where I vent anyway
19:17 <luke-jr> Lizmatic: #luke-jrisanasshat
19:19 <epsy> animuson, yes
19:20 <smoothice> animusonL sorry about that
19:20 <smoothice> :
19:20 <smoothice> everything working ok?
19:21 <animuson> havent done anything since u disappeared lol
19:23 <animuson> can i open it directly from my computer?
19:23 <smoothice> animuson: sure
19:23 <smoothice> try it
19:23 <Lizmatic> i meant ventrillo
19:23 <smoothice> If not do what epsy said
19:24 <smoothice> animuson: I have to go install dev tools on another computer... be right back
19:24 <animuson> ok
19:24 <Lizmatic> luke-jr: thats irc! I meant VENTRILLOOOO
19:26 <animuson> ok its extracted
19:29 <animuson> what next?
19:41 <animuson> ?
19:48 <animuson> epsy? smoothice?
19:48 <epsy> well, cd into the extracted dir
19:48 <animuson> ?
19:49 <epsy> cd armagetronad-dedicated-
19:53 <animuson> ok
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19:53 <epsy> then I think it should already be built
19:54 <animuson> so what do i do next?
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19:55 <K-Yo>  ./bootstrap.sh
19:56 <animuson> sh: ./bootstrap.sh: No such file or directory
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19:57 <K-Yo> :O
19:57 <K-Yo> animuson, what does ls show?
19:59 <animuson> just that error
19:59 <K-Yo> error?
20:00 <K-Yo> "ls"
20:00 <animuson> Is?
20:00 <K-Yo> I mean show me the files you've got in the dir :P
20:00 <epsy> ls
20:00 <K-Yo> l like in library
20:00 <K-Yo> and s like in super
20:00 <epsy> and ls like LiSt
20:02 <animuson> it shows my base directory
20:02 <animuson> :-/
20:02 <epsy> with the archive and the extracted dir?
20:02 <animuson> yea
20:02 <epsy> cd into the extracted dir
20:03 <epsy> cd Changes Directory
20:03 <animuson> i did that
20:03 <animuson> :-/
20:03 <epsy> so type cd whateverthedirsnameis
20:03 <animuson> but if i do ls again it shows my base directory again
20:03 <epsy> what did you type as cd line?
20:04 <K-Yo> paste us the 5 last lines
20:04 <animuson> cd armagetronad-
20:05 <animuson> but it doesnt give any output when i run it :-/
20:05 <K-Yo> 5 last :P
20:05 <animuson> ?
20:05 <epsy> that should be good
20:05 <epsy> so what you type ls now
20:05 <animuson> and it shows my base directory
20:06 <epsy> pwd ?
20:06 <epsy> (Print Working Directory)
20:06 <animuson>  /usr/local/lxlabs/lxadmin/httpdocs
20:07 <epsy> if you type cd armagetronad-; pwd, what does show up?
20:07 <K-Yo> httpdocs?
20:07 <K-Yo> wtf is that?
20:08 <animuson> thats where this particular console thing is located
20:09 <animuson> my other console outputs "/"
20:09 <K-Yo> I find it strange to have arma in such a directory...
20:10 <animuson> i just uploaded it to the first place that came up :-/
20:10 <K-Yo> haha
20:11 <Lizmatic> sooo i just mentioned to someone that arma needs a ventrillo channel
20:11 <Lizmatic> AGREED?!?!
20:11 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, wtf is a ventrillo channel?
20:11 <epsy> uh?
20:11 <epsy> what K-Yo said
20:11 <K-Yo> animuson, haha, it will be a mess :P
20:11 <K-Yo> animuson, but I don't think it's a reason for it not to work :/
20:11 <animuson> where should i put it?
20:12 <Lizmatic> ventrillo, like teamspeak
20:12 <epsy> echo $HOME
20:12 <epsy> there
20:12 <epsy> is ventrillo free?
20:12 <K-Yo> animuson, cd ~
20:12 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, why ventrillo more than another one?
20:12 <Lizmatic> what?
20:12 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, why ventrillo more than another one?
20:13 <K-Yo> :P
20:13 <K-Yo> (you didn't "hear" first time? o_O)
20:13 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, I mean, why not another vocal chat program?
20:13 <K-Yo> what made you chose ventrillo?
20:13 <Lizmatic> i dunno.. dont really care i suppose
20:13 <epsy> doesn't even work on linux, and I don't see any source anywhere
20:13 <Lizmatic> do we have one for arma? any program
20:14 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, we don't
20:14 <K-Yo> in CT, we use mumble
20:14 <K-Yo> I think it's open source
20:14 <epsy> it is
20:14 <animuson> ok i put it in the /home directory
20:14 <animuson> is that good?
20:14 <K-Yo> but I don't see the point of using one for whole arma :/
20:14 <K-Yo> animuson, yeah
20:14 <K-Yo> animuson, mo
20:14 <smoothice> animuson: back
20:14 <K-Yo> tno
20:14 <K-Yo> animuson, in /home, what u got?
20:15 <K-Yo> do 'ls' in /home
20:15 <smoothice> or ls /home
20:15 <K-Yo> yep :P
20:16 <Lizmatic> would be fun to chat up, no?
20:16 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m7b02f4b7
20:16 <Lizmatic> someone should set up a vent/ts channell
20:16 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, well, It could be fun to hear everyone speak with their respective accents :P
20:17 <Lizmatic> dbd had a vent serv but thats dead now..
20:17 <K-Yo> try to understand at the same time a polish, a romanian and a welsh xD
20:17 <K-Yo> plus a swiss-german
20:17 <Lizmatic> actually i will be trying to understand a welsh
20:17 <Lizmatic> :D
20:17 <K-Yo> that's what I get when chatting with CTers xD
20:17 <epsy> Lizmatic, well, better use mumble, it does not look too bad, so since we can use free software instread of proprietary stuff, why not using it?
20:17 <epsy> hahahaha
20:17 <K-Yo> welsh is the hardest to understand
20:17 <K-Yo> for me
20:17 <Lizmatic> yeah thats cool, so does ct have a mumble channel thing?
20:17 <K-Yo> yep
20:18 <epsy> Lizmatic, mumble has a translation feature!
20:18 <BabyBug> Welsh is easssssyy...Scots is hard to understand =P
20:18 <Lizmatic> ROFL epsy, seriously
20:18 <Lizmatic> i'm gonna download mumble
20:18 <epsy> i'm joking lol
20:18 <Lizmatic> does it have the same options as vent.. that if you press a button, you can be heard, and otherwise not?
20:18 <Lizmatic> liek a hotkey
20:18 <epsy> guess so
20:19 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, yes
20:19 <animuson> my cd function still doesnt switch the directories
20:19 <epsy> their website sucks, tho
20:19 <smoothice> animuson
20:19 <smoothice> type cd /
20:19 <K-Yo> true
20:19 <Lizmatic> ah nice
20:19 <Lizmatic> i can't find a mac version tho
20:19 <epsy> try on macports, perhaps?
20:19 <K-Yo> does "cd" work for every linux system?
20:19 <smoothice> yeah
20:19 <epsy> normally it should
20:19 <epsy> NORMALLY
20:19 <Lizmatic> macports ?
20:20 <smoothice> a package manager
20:20 <smoothice> Fink is better
20:20 <epsy> um
20:20 <smoothice> yes
20:20 <smoothice> it is
20:20 <K-Yo> maybe on 1337 h4x0rZ versions it doesn't
20:20 <epsy> and actually, there are OSX packages
20:20 <epsy> http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
20:20 <epsy> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mumble/Mumble-1.1.6.dmg
20:21 <Lizmatic> ye ok, downloading
20:22 <animuson> so how do i get this to work?
20:23 <K-Yo> animuson, "cd /" doesn't do anything?
20:23 <animuson> it returns no output
20:23 <smoothice> cd normally doesn't
20:23 <smoothice> type "ls"
20:23 <smoothice> and tell us what it returns
20:23 <animuson> my base directory
20:23 <smoothice> Ok
20:23 <smoothice> so Cd does work
20:24 <Lizmatic> ah i'm in
20:24 <animuson> no it just always returns my base directoy
20:24 <animuson> lol
20:24 <Lizmatic> whats the ct info k-yo?
20:24 <K-Yo> "cd home"
20:24 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, 2 secs, let me get it
20:24 <Lizmatic> kk
20:24 <K-Yo> server:
20:24 <K-Yo> port: 64738
20:25 <K-Yo> I'm in it, but I can't talk atm
20:26 <K-Yo> animuson, so "cd home" then "ls" will output ur base dir still?
20:26 <animuson> yea
20:26 <Lizmatic> ye me neither, am talking to some mates, but thx.. ill save the info
20:26 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, ok ;)
20:26 <K-Yo> animuson, what OS is it already?
20:26 <animuson> its sposed to be CentOS 5.x
20:27 <K-Yo> sposed?
20:27 <K-Yo> isn't there a linux version command?
20:27 <animuson> the guys in #centos said it was piece of crap version
20:27 <K-Yo> oh
20:27 <K-Yo> haha
20:27 <K-Yo> how cute of him
20:27 <K-Yo> and he didn't tell you why it doesn't work?
20:27 <animuson> no
20:27 <K-Yo> because the problem is not related to arma here...
20:27 <epsy> well, somehow
20:28 <epsy> [17:57] <@Evolution>: animuson: go deal with your hoster.
20:28 <epsy> [17:57] <@Evolution>: animuson: it's a virtuozzo VPS pile of crap.
20:28 <epsy> [17:57] <@Evolution>: that is *NOT* centos. despite what they may have told you.
20:28 <epsy> [17:58] <@Evolution>: have dealt with that crap before, it could very well be the number of threads that yum generates, and a fairly restrictive vps host box.
20:28 <K-Yo> ah...
20:28 <epsy> now for the cd thing, I don't know
20:28 <K-Yo> epsy, do you know a way to run an executable file when ur not in the folder?
20:29 <K-Yo> maybe we can do it all from the base dir?
20:29 <epsy> path/to/folder/blah ?
20:29 <K-Yo> well, it would work, no?
20:29 <epsy> depends
20:29 <K-Yo> hmm
20:30 <K-Yo> and can the "cd" command be overwritten by anotherone on the terminal setting (console.rc or whatever it's called)
20:30 <K-Yo> ?
20:30 <Lizmatic> K-yo: what do i put in lable and adress? lol
20:30 <epsy> everything can be changed
20:30 <Lizmatic> label*
20:30 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, lable: whatever you wish to remember
20:31 <K-Yo> and adresse is the one I gave you
20:31 <K-Yo> .liv
20:31 <tronner>
20:31 <K-Yo> this one
20:31 <epsy> address* :D
20:31 <K-Yo> .alias add ctmumble echo address: port: 64738
20:31 <tronner> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
20:31 <K-Yo> .ctmumble
20:31 <tronner> address: port: 64738
20:32 <K-Yo> .alias add mumble echo CT mumble server: address: port: 64738
20:32 <tronner> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
20:32 <K-Yo> .alias remove ctmumble
20:32 <tronner> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
20:32 <epsy> you'd better throw some colors in
20:32 <K-Yo> epsy, hmmmm
20:32 <K-Yo> the mIRC colors?
20:33 <epsy> yeah
20:33 <K-Yo> fklmds
20:33 <luke-jr> woot
20:33 <K-Yo> hmmm
20:33 <K-Yo> epsy, I can't on my laptop :(
20:33 <K-Yo> I don't have a numeric pad
20:34 <epsy> and?
20:34 <epsy> you still have numbers on your keyboard..
20:34 <K-Yo> well
20:34 <K-Yo> they are not recognized as numbers unless I put caps on
20:35 <smoothice> what does .alias do?
20:35 <K-Yo> and then the shortcut doesn't work
20:35 <K-Yo> .help alias
20:35 <tronner> K-Yo: (alias <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "t title http://+$*".
20:35 <epsy> ok, so use that?
20:35 <K-Yo> smoothice, different things
20:35 <smoothice> tell meeeeeee
20:35 <K-Yo> epsy, well, I can't. If I put caps on, it doesn't recognise the sortcut
20:35 <K-Yo> smoothice, you can create a command
20:35 <K-Yo> .list alias
20:35 <tronner> K-Yo: r, 36, 42, 63, 666, 8, ?, aawiki, act, add, adsk, ady, adymsg, adys, afl, aka, alias, armaconfig, armaservers, arrow, auth, ave, b64, ban, bed, bedforce, beep, bigos, bin, bistro, blah, bsos, bug, bugs, bzr, c, cats, cctld, cdd, cdod, cfg, cfg2, channelnickometer, chat, cheers, cinf, clone, cocaine, cps, ct, ctafl, ctauth, ctbattles, ctbcl, cters, ctf, ctladle, ctladles, ctos, ctoss, ctot, ctpublic, (5 more messages)
20:36 <K-Yo> .apropos alias
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: alias
20:36 <epsy> smoothice, .alias does nothing, it's just that there are many many plugins which have the add command, so he's forced to prefix it with alias
20:36 <K-Yo> smoothice, with .alias add <name> <command> u can create an alias that does a pre-configured command
20:36 <K-Yo> I gotta go
20:36 <epsy> K-Yo, umm
20:36 <epsy> K-Yo, I don't see the problem
20:36 <epsy> K-Yo, ctrl+K shift+2 ?
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20:39 <animuson> im just gonna go bug the hell out of their support team at my provider :P
20:40 <K-Yo> blabla
20:40 <K-Yo> epsy: it makes 4 different char :P
20:42 <epsy> ?
20:42 <epsy> not ctrl+K+shift+4
20:42 <K-Yo> jeje
20:42 <K-Yo> OOOh
20:42 <K-Yo> I get it
20:42 <K-Yo> :P
20:42 <K-Yo> better now
20:43 <K-Yo> server: bla bla port: bla bla
20:44 <epsy> you gotta have to do it outside this channel
20:44 <K-Yo> .liv
20:44 <tronner>
20:44 <K-Yo> .mumble
20:44 <tronner> CT mumble server: address: port: 64738
20:45 <K-Yo> .alias add mumble echo CT mumble server: server: port:4738
20:45 <tronner> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
20:45 <K-Yo> .alias add mumble echo CT mumble server: server: port: 64738
20:45 <tronner> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
20:45 <K-Yo> .mumble
20:45 <tronner> CT mumble server: server: port: 64738
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20:47 <K-Yo> @help tourneys
20:47 <teabot> K-Yo: (tourneys <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [linkom] || [linkbrawl] || [linkladle] || [linktst] || [linkfff] || [linkafl]".
20:47 <K-Yo> @help linkom
20:47 <teabot> K-Yo: (linkom <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [bold Organised Matches]: [linkformat http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches]".
20:47 <epsy> K-Yo, this channel is color filtered(+c)
20:47 <epsy> only you can see the colors
20:47 <K-Yo> epsy, well, it does the same on others
20:47 <epsy> so do it in PM
20:48 <K-Yo> hmmm ok
20:48 <K-Yo> epsy, ty
20:54 <animuson> how do i install libraries?
20:55 <smoothice> the unix compile libs?
20:55 <animuson> i need the xml2 libs
20:55 <smoothice> :
20:55 <smoothice> :/
20:55 <smoothice> I was thinking ani
20:55 <smoothice> Why not just use the dedicated server bins compiled on the armagetronad.net site?
20:56 <smoothice> Instead of bothering to do it yourself
20:56 <animuson> noone told me i could :P
20:56 <animuson> lol
20:56 <animuson> can i?
20:56 <smoothice> http://armagetronad.net/downloads.php
20:56 <smoothice> scroll down to Dedicated Server
20:56 <smoothice> and download the bin Package
20:57 <animuson> k
20:57 <animuson> its uploaded :P
20:57 <animuson> now what?
20:58 <smoothice> you mean downloaded?
20:58 <smoothice> actually
20:58 <smoothice> disregard that download
20:58 <smoothice> lol
20:59 <smoothice> There's a better way to do it
20:59 <smoothice> Go to Terminal and type sudo apt-get install armagetronad-dedicated
21:00 <animuson> sudo: sorry, you must have a tty to run sudo
21:00 <smoothice> are you serious?
21:01 <smoothice> >.<
21:01 <animuson> whats a tty?
21:01 <smoothice> something complicated
21:01 <smoothice> but
21:01 <smoothice> Do you have the root user enabled?
21:01 <animuson> im logged in through the root
21:01 <smoothice> ok
21:01 <smoothice> then type
21:02 <smoothice> apt-get install armagetronad-dedicated
21:02 <smoothice> no sudo
21:02 <animuson> bash: apt-get: command not found
21:02 <smoothice> ok
21:02 <smoothice> dangit
21:02 <smoothice> Is this CentOS 5.???
21:03 <animuson> Linux server.animuson.com 2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.028stab053.10 #1 SMP Tue Apr 1 14:45:45 MSD 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
21:03 <animuson> its not a real version
21:03 <smoothice> ok
21:03 <smoothice> in terminal
21:03 <smoothice> type yum install armagetronad-dedicated
21:04 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m330c3bee
21:04 <smoothice> gaah
21:04 <smoothice> How is this "not a real version"
21:04 <animuson> i dunno
21:04 <animuson> ask the guys in #centos
21:04 <smoothice> Is this a VPS?
21:04 <smoothice> company-hosted?
21:04 <animuson> yea
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21:05 <smoothice> oh
21:05 <smoothice> that's probably why you're having trouble
21:05 <smoothice> Do you have a linux machine locally?
21:05 <smoothice> Linux/Mac/Unix
21:05 <smoothice> aanything
21:05 <animuson> i have dual boot on this machine
21:05 <animuson> ubuntu
21:06 <smoothice> and?
21:06 <animuson> im on windows xp now :P
21:06 <smoothice> ok
21:06 <smoothice> Get into Ubuntu
21:06 <smoothice> and get on IRC
21:06 <animuson> ok
21:06 <smoothice> It'l; be soooo much easier there
21:06 <animuson> lemme copy down the server info and ill switch
21:06 <smoothice> ok
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21:11 <animuson> k im on linux now...
21:11 <smoothice> ok
21:11 <smoothice> Don't do the apt-get or yum thing
21:11 <smoothice> but
21:11 <animuson> wow
21:11 <animuson> 202 updates available
21:11 <animuson> LOL
21:12 <smoothice> don't do them now
21:12 <smoothice> lol
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21:12 <animuson> ill run my updates :P
21:12 <smoothice> No
21:12 <smoothice> wait
21:12 <smoothice> in terminal
21:12 <smoothice> in Ubuntu
21:12 <smoothice> type sudo apt-get install subversion
21:13 <smoothice> epsy: does an SVN repository contain projects or is a repository a project?
21:13 <epsy> an SVN repository is a mess
21:14 <smoothice> epsy: ???
21:14 <smoothice> epsy: explain?
21:14 <epsy> I don't know..
21:14 <epsy> just see how messed up most SVN trees are
21:14 <animuson> its done
21:14 <epsy> see our project's
21:14 <smoothice> animuson: ok
21:14 <smoothice> animuson: run this
21:15 <smoothice> animuson: svn checkout https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/
21:15 <epsy> you got like 10 different programs..and they share revision numbers
21:15 <epsy> in bzr a reporitory contains branches, and that's pretty much it
21:16 <smoothice> epsy: so you're saying in Armagetron's case a respository carries a bunch of crud but you COULD make multiple svn repos that contain different projects
21:16 <smoothice> animuson: tell me when that's done
21:16 <epsy> I guess so
21:16 <animuson> done
21:16 <smoothice> animuson: ok
21:16 <epsy> but seriousely, if you're starting a new project, use a DVCS
21:16 <smoothice> animuson: in that same terminal window
21:16 <smoothice> type ls
21:16 <smoothice> and tell us the output
21:16 <epsy> bzr preferably :)
21:18 <smoothice> Does bzr interact with Apache the same way svn does?
21:18 <epsy> probably not
21:18 <animuson> u cant copy-paste in this terminal :-/
21:18 <epsy> bzr is standalone, doesn't need a server other than ssh
21:18 <animuson> 0.2.8         Documents               Music     Templates     Volunterring
21:18 <animuson> armagetronad  Examples                Pictures  Videos
21:18 <animuson> Desktop       jre-6u7-linux-i586.bin  Public    volunteering
21:19 <epsy> except if you only want to version local stuff
21:19 <epsy> in this case you just need bzr, it doesn't need a server at all
21:19 <smoothice> animuson: is 0.2.8 and armagetronad two different folders?
21:19 <animuson> yea
21:19 <animuson> i have the regular armagetron game installed on linux
21:19 <smoothice> tell me what's in each one
21:19 <smoothice> oh
21:19 <smoothice> ok
21:19 <smoothice> which one is the client
21:19 <animuson> the 0.2.8 has a mod that hoop made
21:19 <epsy> brb
21:20 <animuson> for changing deathzones
21:20 <smoothice> animuson: where's the branch we just checked out?
21:20 <animuson> armagetronad
21:21 <smoothice> ok
21:21 <smoothice> cd armagetronad
21:21 <animuson> k
21:22 <smoothice> then "ls"
21:22 <animuson> shows the directory :P
21:23 <smoothice> what's in the directory?
21:23 <smoothice> the arma stuff?
21:23 <smoothice> or another single directory
21:23 <animuson> yea
21:23 <smoothice> ok
21:23 <smoothice> type ./bootstrap.sh
21:24 <animuson> done
21:24 <smoothice> ok
21:24 <smoothice> mkdir ~/armabuild
21:25 <animuson> k
21:25 <smoothice> then if that's successful:    ./configure --prefix=$HOME/armabuild --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts
21:26 <animuson> done
21:26 <smoothice> ok
21:26 <smoothice> type
21:26 <smoothice> make
21:27 <smoothice> That might take awhile...
21:27 <smoothice> then after that
21:27 <smoothice> make install
21:28 <smoothice> and then that armabuild directory will be hot with a newly compiled dedicated binary
21:28 <smoothice> then you'll want to copy that armabuild directory to your VPS
21:28 <smoothice> and run it from there
21:28 <animuson> lol i remember this painful process
21:28 <smoothice> yeah
21:28 <animuson> all for modified detahzones
21:28 <smoothice> On a mac you can build easily with Xcode
21:28 <animuson> that i never even use cause i hate linux
21:28 <animuson> lol
21:29 <smoothice> :(
21:29 <smoothice> Linux is awesome
21:29 <smoothice> Windows is crud for compiling armagetron
21:29 <animuson> my firefox freezes up all the time :P
21:29 <animuson> and konquerer wont even open
21:29 <animuson> lol
21:29 <smoothice> Konqueror?
21:29 <smoothice> for Ubuntu?
21:29 <animuson> it came pre-installed :P
21:30 <smoothice> ??????????
21:30 <smoothice> Konqueror is for KDE desktops
21:30 <smoothice> Ubuntu is GNOME
21:30 <animuson> while im on here do u know how to change the default selection for GIMP?
21:31 <smoothice> Nope
21:31 <smoothice> I don't use GIMP
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21:31 <smoothice> I prefer photoshop cs3 :D
21:31 <TaZ> Hello
21:31 <smoothice> hi taz
21:31 <TaZ> Hey smoothice :)
21:31 <animuson> its not GIMP
21:31 <animuson> its something that starts with a G
21:31 <smoothice> ???
21:31 <TaZ> GROWL?
21:31 <animuson> its the little selection thing where u can select which operating system to use
21:31 <smoothice> GRUB?
21:31 <animuson> yea thats it :P
21:32 <smoothice> I don't know how to set the default
21:32 <smoothice> I think you have to set it in the initialization script
21:32 <smoothice> but
21:32 <smoothice> More work than worthy
21:32 <smoothice> epsy: you back?
21:32 <animuson> ok i made the install
21:33 <smoothice> you did make install?
21:33 <smoothice> It worked?
21:33 <animuson> now just upload it to the /home directory on my vps?
21:33 <smoothice> upload "armabuild" to your DESKTOP on your vps
21:33 <epsy> back
21:33 <smoothice> or whatever your username is
21:33 <TaZ> Hey epsy
21:33 <epsy> what's with the G- stuff?
21:34 <TaZ> Were you the one who went to New York?
21:34 <smoothice> animuson: upload "armabuild" to your DESKTOP on your vps
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21:34 <animuson> where do i find the desktop?
21:34 <TaZ> ivantis!
21:34 <smoothice> ahh whatever
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21:34 <smoothice> animuson: do your home directory
21:34 <animuson> lol epsy we were getting closer to G-string ;)
21:34 <epsy> just upload it to your home dir on your vps
21:34 <epsy> :|
21:34 <smoothice> epsy: What's the best version control system to use?
21:35 <epsy> smoothice, I'm happy with bzr
21:35 <smoothice> epsy: does bzr interface with Apache like SVN does?
21:35 <animuson> upload the whole folder?
21:35 <ivantis2> hey peeps
21:35 <smoothice> animuson: yes
21:35 <ivantis2> sup?
21:35 <epsy> not by default, but it's quite sure there's a plugin or something for that
21:35 <TaZ> nadda, you?
21:35 <smoothice> ivantis2: ivantis!
21:35 <ivantis2> hey
21:35 <animuson> i gotta get on ftp to do that :-/
21:35 <animuson> lol
21:36 <ivantis2> i aint been on irc for a while
21:36 <TaZ> ivantis2: How was your christmas?
21:36 <ivantis2> great!
21:36 <smoothice> ivantis2: I was wondering how to create different colored winzones that do different things in arma sr
21:36 <TaZ> good good
21:36 <smoothice> ivantis2: src
21:36 <animuson> does ubuntu have a built-in ftp program?
21:36 <TaZ> Did you get anything special?
21:36 <ivantis2> got a lot of clothing
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21:36 <TaZ> ah
21:36 <epsy> smoothice, otherwise there's loggerhead
21:36 <TaZ> Do you have a ps3?
21:37 <TaZ> *randomness*
21:37 <ivantis2> smoothice: you couldnt find any one else to tell you?
21:37 <smoothice> epsy: how does bzr run? Webdav?
21:37 <smoothice> ivantis2: no I just like you :P you were nice to me a long time ago lol
21:37 <ivantis2> okay
21:37 <ivantis2> what do you want it to do?
21:37 <epsy> smoothice, what do you want to do?
21:38 <smoothice> epsy: make a bzr server
21:38 <epsy> smoothice, have your branches/repositories on a remote server?
21:38 <epsy> right
21:38 <smoothice> ivantis2: Move maybe?
21:38 <smoothice> epsy: I have a small project I want to version control with a friend
21:38 <epsy> just have bzr installed on the remote machine, and an operationnal ssh daemon
21:38 <ivantis2> tried sty ct?
21:38 <smoothice> epsy: So I was trying everything I could do to get SVN running
21:38 <smoothice> ivantis2: I cannot get sty+ct to compile
21:38 <ivantis2> it has moving zones supported
21:38 <epsy> smoothice, well, setting up your own repositories for that sound like something harsh
21:38 <smoothice> ivantis2: error with the SVG stuff
21:39 <smoothice> epsy: why?
21:39 <epsy> do you need different rights for different users?
21:39 <smoothice> epsy: Nope
21:39 <epsy> smoothice, do you need a bug tracker, etc?
21:39 <ivantis2> and that is because it thinks you need to use my version, sty+ct+ivantis
21:39 <smoothice> epsy: nope
21:39 <epsy> well, okay, that sounds a bit saner, then
21:40 <smoothice> ivantis2: but I downloaded the stnadard sty+ct branch
21:40 <smoothice> ivantis2: not yours
21:40 <epsy> well, just have sshd and bzr installed on the remote machine
21:40 <ivantis2> wai not mine???
21:40 <smoothice> ivantis2:I couldn't get yours to compile either
21:41 <ivantis2> oh weird
21:41 <ivantis2> svg out error?
21:41 <smoothice> ivantis2: compile error
21:41 <ivantis2> huh
21:42 <ivantis2> ubuntu?
21:42 <smoothice> ivantis2: mac os x 10.5.5
21:42 <ivantis2> oh duh it doesnt work on os x
21:42 <smoothice> ivantis2: :(
21:42 <smoothice> ivantis2: what can I do then?
21:43 <ivantis2> didnt Pathetique try it and fail?
21:43 <smoothice> ivantis2: Can I compile on Ubuntu and then bring the binary over to osx?
21:43 <smoothice> ivantis2: it's all unix/posix
21:44 <ivantis2> negative
21:44 <smoothice> ok then....
21:44 <smoothice> so no sty+ct for me then?
21:44 <ivantis2> unless your ubuntu is on mac hardware
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21:44 <ivantis2> aaand, is your mac intel or ppc?
21:45 <smoothice> I have an intel macbook and my server which is a ppc mac
21:45 <ivantis2> aand, what did you attempt to compile it with?
21:45 <smoothice> Xcode on Intel mac
21:46 <ivantis2> okay
21:46 <smoothice> ivantis2: so what can I do?
21:46 <ivantis2> i think Pathetique got sty ct on his mac
21:46 <smoothice> ivantis2: oooh ok
21:46 <ivantis2> ask him next time hes online
21:46 <smoothice> animuson: how's it working
21:46 <smoothice> ivantis2: ok
21:47 <smoothice> epsy: For some reason SVN just seems easier to use
21:47 <epsy> not to set up, I heard
21:48 <ivantis2> maybe its time for me tag o. im in the car on my cell phone
21:48 <ivantis2> G1
21:48 <smoothice> epsy: so I once bzr and ssh are installed how does my friend connect to it and commit changes
21:48 <ivantis2> early christmas present to my from my parents, awesome phone
21:49 <epsy> bzr co bzr+ssh://host/path/to/branch/
21:49 <epsy> or branch, or whatever
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21:49 <ivantis2> later everyone
21:50 <ivantis2> :)
21:50 <ivantis2> no goodbye for me? channel of jerks...
21:50 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m3c0436d0.tmodns.net] has quit ["-a-"]
21:50 <epsy> goodbye ivantis2
21:51 <smoothice> epsy: no way to use http?
21:51 <epsy> for download only
21:51 <smoothice> but armagetronad/launchpad can do it
21:51 <epsy> or with the help of a bzr server, but that just complicate things
21:52 <smoothice> ok
21:52 <epsy> yeah, for download only
21:52 <smoothice> wait
21:52 <smoothice> So for armagetronad/launchpad commiitting you use ssh?
21:52 <epsy> yes
21:53 <smoothice> you have ssh access to launchpad?
21:53 <smoothice> whoa
21:53 <smoothice> lol
21:53 <epsy> and for downloading as well
21:53 <epsy> only for committing :)
21:53 <smoothice> But isn't subversion + http easier than ssh?
21:54 <epsy> I find it easy
21:54 <smoothice> ok
21:55 <animuson> uploading this shit is soooo boring >_>
21:55 <smoothice> animuson: why didn't you zip it and upload the zip
21:55 <smoothice> animuson: then unzip
21:55 <smoothice> epsy: is loggerhead a webserver?
21:55 <animuson> this panel doesnt have an extraction tool
21:55 <epsy> smoothice, not sure
21:55 <animuson> it has a compression tool though
21:56 <animuson> kinda retarded
21:56 <smoothice> animuson: oh ok
21:56 <smoothice> animuson: what VPS host?
21:56 <animuson> server complete
21:56 <animuson> oh it does have an unzip feature
21:57 <animuson> who the hell names the unzip feature "Remove"?
21:57 <animuson> o.O
21:57 <smoothice> animuson: O_o
21:57 <smoothice> epsy: ok thanks for your input
21:57 <smoothice> epsy: I've tried and failed at doing everything I could to set Svn + apache working
21:57 <animuson> i thought it removed as in deleted files XD hehe
21:57 <smoothice> epsy: with no success
21:57 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/loggerhead
21:57 <K-Yo> whoa, you still do not have aa running?
21:58 <smoothice> lol
21:58 <animuson> no i started manually uploading the files cause i didnt know they had an unzip feature XD
21:59 <smoothice> :P
22:01 <smoothice> animuson: fail
22:01 <smoothice> animuson: lol
22:01 <animuson> k everything is uploaded XD
22:01 <smoothice> ok
22:01 <smoothice> cd into the directory
22:02 <smoothice> cd into armabuild
22:02 <smoothice> and
22:02 <smoothice> type ls
22:02 <smoothice> and tell us what's in there
22:02 <animuson> on the vps?
22:02 <smoothice> yeah
22:02 <epsy> rhttp://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/loggerheadREADME.txt
22:03 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/loggerheadREADME.txt
22:03 <smoothice> epsy: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
22:03 <epsy> there's a section about running it behind another apache
22:03 <K-Yo> oh, cd works now?
22:03 <smoothice> yeah it worked in the first place
22:03 <smoothice> lol
22:03 <animuson> no
22:04 <smoothice> no?
22:05 <smoothice> I'm confused
22:05 <K-Yo> .cters
22:05 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 17 seconds old: cT-PunkXmas@Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12) Ctt_Desolate@Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12) CtxWoned@{Delicious Desserts} Racing II (7/14)
22:06 <smoothice> .seen Pathetique
22:06 <animuson> the cd command wont work on my vps
22:06 <tronner> smoothice: Pathetique was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Pathetique> #ls creator
22:06 <smoothice> animuson: do you have vnc access?
22:08 <luke-jr> yeah
22:08 <luke-jr> play Armagetron over VNC
22:08 <luke-jr> 8D
22:08 <epsy> lol
22:08 <smoothice> XD
22:08 <animuson> whats vnc?
22:08 <smoothice> screen sharing
22:08 <K-Yo> .g vnc
22:08 <tronner> K-Yo: http://www.realvnc.com/ - RealVNC - RealVNC remote control software
22:08 <smoothice> what does .g do
22:08 <K-Yo> smoothice, google
22:08 <epsy> google search
22:08 <smoothice> oh
22:08 <smoothice> lol
22:08 <epsy> well
22:08 <TaZ> virtual network conrrol
22:08 <epsy> google lucky search
22:09 <K-Yo> smoothice, to know what a command do: ".help <command>"
22:09 <smoothice> .g Armagetron Bazaar launchpad
22:09 <tronner> smoothice: https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad - Bazaar branches of Armagetron Advanced
22:09 <K-Yo> .help g
22:09 <TaZ> control*
22:09 <tronner> K-Yo: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google $*".
22:09 <K-Yo> .help google
22:09 <tronner> K-Yo: (google <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results.
22:09 <smoothice> .g armagetron sty+ct
22:09 <tronner> smoothice: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18549 - Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Sty+ct development
22:09 <smoothice> cool
22:09  * TaZ has played arma through VNC on iphone
22:09 <K-Yo> ;)
22:09 <K-Yo> TaZ, well, no need for VNC now :P
22:10 <smoothice> TaZ: lol!
22:10 <epsy> K-Yo, ah?
22:11 <K-Yo> epsy, voodoo's working on that
22:11 <K-Yo> let me find the lionk
22:11 <TaZ> K-Yo: oO
22:11 <TaZ> Are you serious!?
22:11 <K-Yo> https://code.launchpad.net/~aavoodoo/+junk/0.2.8-armagetronad-opengles
22:11 <K-Yo> yes I am
22:11 <epsy> why is it in his junk?
22:11 <luke-jr> K-Yo: OpenGL ES != iPhone
22:12 <smoothice> epsy:   File "/Users/administrator/Downloads/loggerhead-1.10/serve-branches", line 24, in <module>
22:12 <smoothice>     from paste import httpserver
22:12 <smoothice> ImportError: No module named paste
22:12 <epsy> for one time it would have made sense as an arma branch..
22:12 <K-Yo> http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV8Jhj9
22:12 <epsy> smoothice, you need to install it
22:12 <K-Yo> http://www.postimage.org/gx1o3Yr0.jpg
22:12 <animuson> what do i need to run to install the armagetron-dedicated?
22:12 <K-Yo> http://www.postimage.org/aV8J_cJ.jpg
22:12 <smoothice> animuson: nothing
22:12 <TaZ> omg
22:12 <K-Yo> http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV8Ko99
22:12 <TaZ> That is awesome
22:12 <animuson> just the cd armabuild will start it up?
22:12 <smoothice> no
22:13 <smoothice> ./armagetronad-dedicated
22:13 <luke-jr> reminder that Armagetron is GPL
22:13 <TaZ> K-Yo: how close is it to being in beta/complete form?
22:13 <smoothice> luke-jr: SDK is not nda anymore
22:13 <luke-jr> smoothice: perhaps irrelevant
22:13 <smoothice> luke-jr: ok
22:13 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m4c0436d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
22:13 <luke-jr> smoothice: does the iPhone require signed binaries?
22:13 <K-Yo> TaZ, I don't know, voodoo's working on that, but he still has to rearrange the network code
22:13 <smoothice> smoothice: for the app store it does I think
22:14 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: reminder i already gave you a link to that source code
22:14 <TaZ> ah
22:14 <ivantis2> back.
22:14 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: GPL requires more than that
22:14 <K-Yo> quote from voodoo: "So there's still plenty of work to do : font size, more controls like camera, glancing, show and hide keyboard for string, fix textures, improve fps ... "
22:14 <animuson> wait if u cd to armabuild how can u run ./armagetronad-dedicated?
22:14 <TaZ> I would so par for that app
22:14 <animuson> isnt that in the bin folder?
22:14 <TaZ> pay*
22:14 <epsy> K-Yo, moreover, is it still desktop-compatible?
22:14 <smoothice> animuson: then cd to bin then
22:14 <luke-jr> K-Yo: hopefulyl it's trunk?
22:14 <epsy> TaZ, wht would you do with it?
22:14 <smoothice> animuson: just find armagetronad-dedicated and run it
22:14 <K-Yo> epsy, maybe, It is supposed to be from what I heard
22:15 <epsy> unless you got a wifi link, it will it will be unplayable
22:15 <TaZ> I hope so
22:15 <animuson> bash: ./home/armabuild/bin/armagetronad-dedicated: Permission denied
22:15 <K-Yo> TaZ, there won't be anyone to take your money :P
22:15 <TaZ> wifi/3g
22:15 <K-Yo> TaZ, you can make donations :P
22:15 <TaZ> I will!
22:15 <epsy> K-Yo, why isn't it under the armagetronad project?
22:15 <TaZ> Like no joke
22:15 <luke-jr> K-Yo: why not?
22:15 <K-Yo> epsy, aske voodoo
22:15 <smoothice> animuson: sudo ./home/armabuild/bin/armagetronad-dedicated
22:15 <smoothice> epsy: I cannot get loggerhead to work
22:15 <TaZ> Does he have a homepage?
22:15 <animuson> i cant sudo
22:15 <epsy> ask the loggerhead guys!
22:15 <K-Yo> luke-jr, I doubt anyone in CT is interested with money, except to pay servers
22:15 <luke-jr> as long as it's GPL-OK, I see no reason voodoo shouldn't charge for the iPhone stuff
22:16 <ivantis2> la la la
22:16 <TaZ> I would love to donate to his project though
22:16 <ivantis2> man im bored today
22:16 <K-Yo> TaZ, from what vood said, it can be ready in one or 2 month, but seeing how lazy he can be, it can take ages :P
22:16 <TaZ> aww
22:16 <epsy> K-Yo, and why is the CT stuff, which will be never, for sure, be merged into mainline on the armagetronad project?
22:16 <epsy> I don't get it, really
22:16 <luke-jr> TaZ: stick a price tag on it for him, and start taking preorders ;)
22:16 <K-Yo> epsy, how could I know ^o)
22:17 <TaZ> xD
22:17 <K-Yo> epsy, I'm far from all the dev stuff, I don't know anything in C, :P
22:17 <epsy> it's C++ anyway
22:17 <K-Yo> I'm not at all in the dev part
22:17 <TaZ> He could make a ton of money through the app store.
22:17 <K-Yo> epsy, well, I know even less in C++ xD
22:17 <ivantis2> bbbkah
22:17 <K-Yo> TaZ, atm, he gets less than 10 fps online :P
22:18 <TaZ> K-Yo: Does he have a homepage?
22:18 <epsy> touchscreen?
22:18 <luke-jr> >_<
22:18 <smoothice> epsy: ImportError: No module named paste
22:18 <TaZ> arghh, that's not good
22:18 <TaZ> Maybe he can improve the code?
22:18 <K-Yo> TaZ, nope :( TaZ u can contact him through CT forums
22:18 <epsy> smoothice, install it, see the readme
22:18 <epsy> smoothice, it's a dependency
22:18 <K-Yo> TaZ, taht's what he's workin on
22:18 <TaZ> kk
22:18 <ivantis2> dude...
22:18 <TaZ> epsy: yex
22:18 <smoothice> epsy: there's nothing to instal
22:18 <TaZ> epsy: yes*
22:18 <epsy> ??
22:18 <K-Yo> epsy, yeah, he cut the screen in 4 parts
22:18 <smoothice> epsy: it just says run   ./serve-branches ~/path/to/branch
22:19 <epsy> before that it says
22:19 <luke-jr> K-Yo: why cut the screen?
22:19 <epsy> Loggerhead depends on
22:19 <ivantis2> man om bored
22:19 <epsy> 1) blah blah etc
22:19 <epsy> ivantis2, now that's the second time you say that
22:19 <ivantis2> duide
22:20 <ivantis2> om rly bord
22:20 <epsy> then go bore yourself away from here, we dont care
22:20 <K-Yo> luke-jr, virtually
22:20 <TaZ> ivantis2: ...
22:20 <K-Yo> luke-jr, turn right/left brake and menu
22:20 <ivantis2> ah! about to go to a movie!
22:20 <ivantis2> yay!
22:20 <ivantis2> okay laterz
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22:20 <K-Yo> cu
22:21 <epsy> yeah, make controls touch and accelerometer..glances :)
22:21 <K-Yo> yep
22:21 <K-Yo> :)
22:21 <K-Yo> but I don't know how hard it is to "control" accelerometers
22:21 <epsy> to receive data from it, you mean?
22:22 <K-Yo> I've helped a friend on a project involving the wiimote, and
22:22 <TaZ> epsy: good idea to use the accelerometer like that
22:22 <K-Yo> epsy, nono, interpret it
22:22 <epsy> ah, hehe
22:22 <epsy> might be simplier
22:22 <K-Yo> well, the configure it the right way, so it's not glancing all the time, and not too hard to glance :P
22:22 <TaZ> yes
22:22 <K-Yo> -the+to
22:22 <ct|kyle> epsy: I just compiled and ran it on desktop
22:23 <epsy> you gotta have to fetch a default position(ie. look forward)
22:23 <epsy> and the triple the movement and bind it to the actual camera's angle
22:23 <ct|kyle> it is using 0.2.8.* as base
22:23 <epsy> if it's as simple as x y z angles
22:23 <epsy> (which it should be)
22:24 <K-Yo> epsy, TaZ well, if you're several willing to help the project, I'm sure voodoo will love that, he already asked me if I was willing to help, but unfortunately, without any knowledge of C/C++... I can't be of any help :(
22:24 <animuson> any other ideas for getting the server to work?
22:24 <K-Yo> animuson, what's not working now?
22:24 <smoothice> animuson: yeah
22:24 <K-Yo> animuson, at what step are you?
22:24 <epsy> I don't own such a device as an iPhone and I don't plan on buying one
22:24 <luke-jr> animuson: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
22:24 <K-Yo> epsy, same :P
22:24 <animuson> getting the armagetronad-dedicated file to run
22:24 <luke-jr> epsy: I want something like a N810
22:24 <TaZ> K-Yo: Well I know C, but I''m extremely rusty, and have no idea how tron works.
22:24 <K-Yo> animuson, well, run it?
22:25 <TaZ> N810's are nice
22:25 <epsy> neither I intend to buy a mac just for iPhone/iPod developement
22:25 <epsy> the N810 looks hawt indeed, but have you seen nokia's sneak preview for N98 ?
22:25 <animuson> it wont run
22:25 <smoothice> error?
22:26 <TaZ> epsy: yes!
22:26 <animuson> bash: ./home/armabuild/bin/armagetronad-dedicated: Permission denied
22:26 <epsy> it's pretty much the iphone minux what sucks: there's a fucking qwerty keyboard slider
22:26 <luke-jr> N98
22:26 <luke-jr> ?
22:26 <smoothice> animuson: use sudo
22:26 <animuson> i cant use sudo
22:26 <luke-jr> epsy: N810 has no phone
22:26 <animuson> i have to have the tty thing
22:26 <smoothice> sudo ./home/armabuild/bin/armagetronad-dedicated
22:26 <epsy> really?
22:26 <TaZ> wait
22:26 <smoothice> animuson: hmmmm
22:26 <TaZ> epsy: The n98??
22:27 <epsy> woops, I mean N97
22:27 <TaZ> It got officially announced?
22:27 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O2Li74EYew&feature=related
22:27 <K-Yo> smoothice, he can't use sudo
22:27 <epsy> nope, I meant N97
22:27 <smoothice> K-Yo: ok
22:27 <smoothice> K-Yo: what do we do
22:27 <TaZ> ooo ok, that's what I thought you were talking about before
22:27 <K-Yo> animuson, well, if your user can't run arma...
22:27 <K-Yo> animuson, why can't you use sudo
22:27 <TaZ> The N97 is
22:27 <K-Yo> smoothice, well, kill the vpn provider
22:27 <epsy> at first shot it looks pretty much like a smaller N800/N810
22:27 <TaZ> hot
22:27 <TaZ> Yea
22:28 <TaZ> The spec's are amazing
22:28 <smoothice> K-Yo: Cannot you run it without sudo
22:28 <animuson> sudo: sorry, you must have a tty to run sudo
22:28 <TaZ> Nokia is always ahead of the game
22:28 <smoothice> K-Yo: chown + chmod?
22:28 <luke-jr> where are specs
22:28 <luke-jr> epsy: I don't want smaller ☹
22:28 <epsy> erm, they're pretty much the slowest right now
22:28 <luke-jr> I want as big as I can comfortably fit in my pocket
22:28 <epsy> well, that should do
22:29 <K-Yo> smoothice, well, I think u need sudo for chown, no?
22:29 <epsy> but well, did you hear about S60 ed3's pretty restrictive symbian-signed stuff?
22:29 <smoothice> K-Yo: I think it depends on whether or not the file is located in your home directory or not
22:29 <TaZ> epsy: They were like the first ones to incorporate a 5 MP camera in an "open" os
22:29 <K-Yo> smoothice, yeah, I think that too
22:29 <K-Yo> animuson, where do you have arma compiled?
22:29 <epsy> hence the quotes
22:29 <smoothice> animuson: is armabuild In your home directory?
22:29 <animuson> /home/armabuild
22:29 <TaZ> epsy: yea
22:30 <smoothice> animuson
22:30 <smoothice> What's the name of your user
22:30 <TaZ> Have you seen their media edition phone?
22:30 <epsy> but yeah, carl zeiss optics sounds cool :)
22:30 <TaZ> I think 5800
22:30 <animuson> ?
22:30 <epsy> their first tactile?
22:30 <smoothice> Put in in your HOME directory... not /home
22:30 <TaZ> epsy: They are amazing
22:30 <luke-jr> OQO2 would be nice if it wasn't so expensive and Windows/x86
22:30 <TaZ> Yea
22:30 <TaZ> Wait...
22:30 <epsy> TaZ, well, I'll have the occasion to test it :)
22:30 <animuson> u guys told me not to put it in the root directory
22:30 <TaZ> Is it their first tactile?
22:30 <smoothice> not root
22:30 <smoothice> home
22:30 <TaZ> :o when?
22:30 <K-Yo> animuson, "ls /home"
22:31 <epsy> it's one of the XpressMusic
22:31 <TaZ> Take pics and send it to me :)
22:31 <TaZ> Yea, that's the one.
22:31 <epsy> don't intend to buy that lol
22:31 <TaZ> Why not?
22:31 <TaZ> Want to wait for the N97?
22:31 <epsy> buying N95
22:31 <TaZ> aww
22:31 <TaZ> Don
22:31 <TaZ> Don't*
22:31 <luke-jr> oqo2 has 1.6 GHz, 120 GB HD, 1 GB DDR2, etc
22:32 <TaZ> I mean the N95 is a great phone, but Nokia has so much more coming out
22:32 <animuson> admin     animuson     armabuild     armagetronad-dedicated-     axfrdns     dnscache     dnslog     httpd     lxadmin     lxlabs     nouser     tinydns
22:32 <TaZ> And they have gone down in price
22:32 <luke-jr> HDMI too, if you care for that
22:32 <smoothice> animuson
22:32 <epsy> TaZ, well yeah, but that will be really expensive
22:32 <luke-jr> http://www.oqo.com/products/model02/specifications.html
22:32 <smoothice> put armabuild in the animuson folder
22:32 <TaZ> A year ago, I really wanted the E90
22:32 <epsy> luke-jr, lol??
22:32 <TaZ> I still love the E90
22:32 <animuson> why the animuson folder?
22:32 <smoothice> just do it
22:32 <epsy> well, the N95 is barely sold at 300€ minimum
22:33 <TaZ> UMPC's suck luke-jr
22:33 <luke-jr> TaZ: ..
22:33 <TaZ> You guys over at Europe have it lucky
22:33 <smoothice> animuson: then try running dedicated without sudo
22:33 <luke-jr> TaZ: we're talking about UMPCs/handhelds
22:33 <TaZ> When Nokia releases phones, they release it over there first
22:33 <luke-jr> N810 is just a really low spec one
22:33 <epsy> TaZ, you have it unlocked :P
22:33 <smoothice> animuson, K-Yo: gotta reinstall mac os x 10.4 on server for the 10th time in two days... be back soon
22:33 <TaZ> I know, but the 3g band are different
22:33 <TaZ> 850/
22:34 <K-Yo> animuson, the "/home/animuson" folder is YOUR home folder, where you have all the rights, and you need them to run arma
22:34 <animuson> bash: ./home/animuson/armabuild/bin/armagetronad-dedicated: Permission denied
22:34 <K-Yo> smoothice, l8er
22:34 <smoothice> :(
22:34 <TaZ> epsy: And yall have Wimax coming soon over there :/
22:34 <smoothice> kyo
22:34 <TaZ> We have slow-as-hell 3G in America
22:34 <epsy> yeah, we just need the operators who have the licenses to deploy it
22:34 <TaZ> And only in major cities
22:35 <smoothice> k-yo: give animuson some chown or chmodifications to try to get it to work
22:35 <smoothice> I don't know
22:35 <K-Yo> animuson, what u got on the console in every line? smthing like "animuson@mymachine / $" ?
22:35 <epsy> but WiMax will be ftw, especially since one of the operators who has one of the license is probably going to hand good prices on it
22:35 <TaZ> luke-jr: You should wait later to buy a UMPC
22:35 <TaZ> Yea
22:35 <TaZ> You heard of LTE?
22:35 <luke-jr> TaZ: I have no choice, there isn't a good one yet
22:35 <TaZ> an WiBro?
22:36 <epsy> lol
22:36 <TaZ> luke-jr: Get a netbook then :P
22:36 <luke-jr> I really want a clamshell
22:36 <luke-jr> netbooks don't fit in my pocket
22:36 <TaZ> You can hack the psp to run Windows95/98
22:36 <luke-jr> liar
22:36 <epsy> erm
22:36 <TaZ> I'm dead serious
22:36 <epsy> who wants to do tha?
22:36 <luke-jr> PSP isn't x86
22:36 <luke-jr> idiot
22:36 <TaZ> .g youtube windows 98 psp
22:36 <tronner> TaZ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FExAHwzVrWI - YouTube - Windows 98 on psp with Bochs by Xarro
22:37 <TaZ> Using Bochs
22:37 <luke-jr> wtf?
22:37 <luke-jr> that's stupid
22:37 <animuson> its a custom console
22:37 <TaZ> luke-jr: It emulates dumbone
22:37 <luke-jr> TaZ: qemu is far faster than BOCHS
22:37 <animuson> theres a Command line, an Output box, and an Error line
22:37 <TaZ> You're right
22:38 <K-Yo> animuson, well, I want to make sure your username is "animuson" and not "admin" or another one...
22:38 <K-Yo> epsy, is there a command to know under what user u are logged?
22:38 <TaZ> epsy: heard of the Touch HD?
22:38 <epsy> K-Yo, errr
22:38 <BabyBug> K-Yo, users?
22:38 <epsy> TaZ, windows mobile ftl?
22:38 <K-Yo> yeah
22:38 <TaZ> eww, no
22:38 <K-Yo> like I'm "K-Yo@K-Yo's_PC ~ $"
22:39 <K-Yo> so I am the user "K-Yo"
22:39  * TaZ hates windows mobile
22:39 <K-Yo> but it seems animuson has not the ordinary console
22:39 <BabyBug> No K-Yo i meant type the command 'users' =P
22:39 <animuson> its an online console...
22:39 <luke-jr> N810 for $200
22:39 <epsy> K-Yo, id
22:39 <BabyBug> or id
22:39 <BabyBug> that'll do too =P
22:39 <luke-jr> !
22:39 <TaZ> luke-jr: That's a good price
22:39 <animuson> uid=0(root) gid=0(root)
22:39 <luke-jr> TaZ: it's sold out, too
22:39 <epsy> TaZ, well, HTCs use it
22:40 <luke-jr> I'm tempted to try buying it anyway
22:40 <TaZ> Only thing about Nokia N-series is that they have weak processors
22:40 <luke-jr> yeah
22:40 <epsy> (except if the G1 is actually built by HTC)
22:40 <K-Yo> animuson, online console? what do you mean? from a website? ^o)
22:40 <TaZ> epsy: I know, but the phone is hot. :P
22:40 <luke-jr> oqo2 is a lot closer to what I want
22:40 <animuson> users doesn't output anything
22:40 <epsy> TaZ, true
22:40 <luke-jr> but it's still quite far off
22:40 <epsy> TaZ, it's like samsung, really
22:40 <animuson> its an online console through the nodesdirect control panel
22:40 <luke-jr> I do want a touch screen
22:40 <TaZ> And I'm usually not a fan of HTC phones
22:40 <luke-jr> and I want clamshell if possible
22:40 <epsy> TaZ, good hardware, shit software
22:40 <TaZ> yep
22:40 <luke-jr> and $1000 is my hard cap XD
22:40 <TaZ> haha
22:41 <epsy> haha
22:41 <luke-jr> oqo2 is like $1500
22:41 <TaZ> Please dont get a UMPC luke-jr
22:41 <K-Yo> animuson, on your host machine, what OS do you have? windows? mac? linux?
22:41 <epsy> luke-jr, with the cost of thephone op?
22:41 <TaZ> It's such a waste of money for what it is right now
22:41 <luke-jr> TaZ: UMPC is the only thing useful smaller than a laptop
22:41 <animuson> the host machine has CentOS 5
22:41 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
22:41 <K-Yo> animuson, no, your machine, sry
22:41 <epsy> luke-jr, do you want a SIM with the phone?
22:42 <TaZ> I'm telling, Netbooks have more power than these UMPCs they have out
22:42 <animuson> i have dual boot, Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP
22:42 <luke-jr> epsy: I'm not interested in cell phone service.
22:42 <K-Yo> animuson, and why don't you connect to your VPS using SSH?
22:42 <luke-jr> TaZ: netbooks are also no more useful than laptops
22:42 <animuson> dunno how too
22:43 <K-Yo> animuson, ur under ubuntu or xp right now?
22:43 <animuson> ubuntu
22:43 <TaZ> luke-jr: They are meant for portability
22:43 <luke-jr> TaZ: netbooks are not any more portable than laptops
22:43 <TaZ> Not to be anything powerful
22:43 <TaZ> Of course not
22:44 <luke-jr> netbooks have no purpose
22:44 <TaZ> But they are used for what they need to do
22:44 <K-Yo> .liv
22:44 <tronner>
22:44 <TaZ> What's the point of having a UMPC?
22:44 <luke-jr> TaZ: you could just get a laptop
22:44 <epsy> what's that IP?
22:44 <luke-jr> I can carry a UMPC around everywhere.
22:44 <luke-jr> easily.
22:44 <TaZ> EXACTLY! lol
22:44 <TaZ> You can carry a laptop everywhere too...just carry a bookbag
22:44 <luke-jr> I don't want to carry a bookbag.
22:45 <TaZ> Then get a netbook!
22:45 <luke-jr> a netbook requires a bookbag too
22:45 <TaZ> Dell mini-one
22:45 <TaZ> No
22:45 <luke-jr> yes
22:45 <K-Yo> animuson, "ssh <user>@<machine IP>"
22:45 <TaZ> Some can fit in your pockets
22:45 <K-Yo> animuson, on YOUR console
22:45 <luke-jr> TaZ: then it's a UMPC, not a netbook
22:45 <TaZ> Most UMPC's can fit in your pocket
22:45 <luke-jr> that's why I want a UMPC
22:45 <K-Yo> animuson, that's the normal way to connect to a VPS
22:45 <TaZ> Do you know the difference between a Netbook and a UMPC?
22:45 <luke-jr> yes
22:46 <luke-jr> a UMPC can fit in my pocket
22:46 <TaZ> Not all UMPC's can fit in your pocket
22:46 <TaZ> In fact, very few can
22:46 <luke-jr> look, no matter *what* I get, I'm running Gentoo and KDE 4.2 on it
22:46 <luke-jr> so don't give me some software difference
22:46 <epsy> TaZ, well, when you see N96 or iPhone
22:47 <epsy> (which hardly fit in one's pocket - heh)
22:47 <animuson> Permission denied (public key).
22:47 <TaZ> I'm just wondering what you need a $1500 1ghz mini laptop for?
22:47 <luke-jr> even if I get a N810, I am putting Gentoo/KDE on it
22:47 <TaZ> The iphone fits in my pocket good. :P
22:47 <epsy> animuson, you're on ubuntu right now?
22:47 <TaZ> The N95, well i heard that was a brick
22:47 <animuson> yea
22:47 <luke-jr> TaZ: because 1 GHz is pretty slow
22:47 <TaZ> Yea
22:48 <luke-jr> 400 MHz is barely usable IMO
22:48 <TaZ> LOL!
22:48 <animuson> do i need to add an SSH Authorized Key on the server side?
22:48 <epsy> animuson, cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
22:48 <luke-jr> I wish the N810 could come with cell-based internet
22:48 <epsy> yes
22:48 <TaZ> most phones surpass that
22:48 <luke-jr> TaZ: N810 has 400 MHz CPU
22:48 <epsy> the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub is your public key
22:48 <TaZ> oh yea :P
22:48 <luke-jr> in fact, so does my Zaurus
22:48 <animuson> cat: /home/eric/.ssh/id_rsa.pub: No such file or directory
22:49 <epsy> you must append it to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server
22:49 <epsy> ah
22:49 <TaZ> Phones are supposed to reach 1ghz by 2011
22:49 <epsy> then type ssh-keygen on your computer
22:49 <luke-jr> TaZ: phones are stupid
22:49 <TaZ> luke-jr: I'm obsessed with cellphones.
22:49 <TaZ> I don't think you understand
22:49 <TaZ> I don
22:49 <luke-jr> I want a digital camera, phone, laptop, and more all combined into one
22:50 <TaZ> I don't even live in Europe, but I know the phones coming out there
22:50 <animuson> Enter file in which to save the key (/home/eric/.ssh/id_rsa):
22:50 <TaZ> Me too :)
22:50 <epsy> it's not like I want 3 different devices in my pocket
22:50 <luke-jr> and by 'phone', I mean I can run a VoIP client
22:50 <TaZ> I do
22:50 <epsy> luke-jr, that's called a smartphone
22:50 <luke-jr> epsy: no it isn't.
22:50 <TaZ> Most N-series can do that luke-jr
22:50 <TaZ> haha yea, what epsy said
22:50 <luke-jr> smartphones just do cell calls
22:50 <luke-jr> I don't want stupid cell calls
22:50 <luke-jr> just SIP
22:51 <TaZ> even the iphone can run VoIP
22:51 <TaZ> That's stupid
22:51 <TaZ> Get Vonage
22:51 <luke-jr> Vonage sucks
22:51 <luke-jr> like you
22:51 <TaZ> lool
22:51 <TaZ> Some much hatred
22:51 <luke-jr> TaZ: I can run my own phone company on par with Vonage.
22:51  * TaZ spews hate on luke-jr
22:52 <TaZ> yea
22:52 <TaZ> But the idea of having just a wireless voip phone  is stupid
22:52 <TaZ> It won't happen for some time
22:52 <luke-jr> who said just?
22:52 <luke-jr> I want a fully usable laptop with it
22:52 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m3c0436d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
22:52 <TaZ> How was the movies ivantis2?
22:52 <TaZ> :P
22:53 <ivantis2> aw, not seeing the movie. big line at the theater
22:53 <epsy> "need the codec"
22:53 <luke-jr> LOL
22:53 <luke-jr> heh
22:53 <luke-jr> I got kicked from #gentoo-dev once, when i was a developer
22:54 <luke-jr> cuz I said I was going to go watch the Matrix.avi
22:54 <K-Yo> luke-jr, haha
22:54 <ivantis2> still bored.
22:54 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m3c0436d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Client Quit]
22:54 <TaZ> lol
22:54 <luke-jr> wow
22:54 <epsy> I don't get it
22:54 <luke-jr> he actually left us alone
22:54 <epsy> booo :'(
22:54 <luke-jr> epsy: they didn't like me talking about downloading movies
22:55 <epsy> lol
22:55 <TaZ> Couldn't you just had ripped it though? :x
22:55 <TaZ> and converted it to avi?
22:55 <epsy> that's illegal
22:55 <animuson> when i do Add Authorized Key what do i type in?
22:55 <epsy> :(
22:56 <epsy> animuson, the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
22:56 <luke-jr> TaZ: well, I named a specific filename..
22:56 <epsy> (did you type ssh-keygen ?)
22:56 <animuson> yea
22:56 <epsy> then type cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
22:56 <epsy> and copypaste that
22:57 <luke-jr> wtf
22:57 <luke-jr> don't be stupid epsy
22:57 <luke-jr> ssh-copy-id user@host
22:57 <luke-jr> enter password
22:57 <luke-jr> done
22:58 <animuson> the cat thing doesnt do anything
22:58 <epsy> any error message?
22:58 <animuson> no
22:58 <luke-jr> K-Yo: YANDERE
22:59 <K-Yo> luke-jr, ask ivantis
23:00 <luke-jr> ivantis: poop
23:01 <TaZ> lol
23:01 <animuson> do i just copy the #letter: things with the eric@EricPC line that it outputs?
23:01 <animuson> or is there more I need for it?
23:06 <animuson> :o Google wont work
23:07 <smoothice> animuson: back
23:07 <animuson> im trying to figure out how to add an ssh authorized key :P
23:07 <smoothice> I see
23:07 <smoothice> :/
23:08 <smoothice> So
23:08 <K-Yo> animuson, well, I use ssh, but over windows :P and I don't know much, since it worked at once for me :/
23:08 <animuson> how did u do it over windows?
23:08 <smoothice> PuTTY?
23:09 <smoothice> animuson what's the DNS address of your vps
23:09 <animuson> ?
23:09 <smoothice> the VPS IP{
23:09 <K-Yo> animuson, putty
23:09 <smoothice> Di you say server.animuson.com
23:09 <smoothice> did
23:09 <animuson>,
23:10 <K-Yo> .dns
23:10 <tronner> K-Yo: 85-116-162-69.static.reverse.lstn.net
23:10 <K-Yo> .dns
23:10 <tronner> K-Yo: 84-116-162-69.static.reverse.lstn.net
23:10 <animuson> .dns animuson.com
23:10 <tronner> animuson:
23:10 <animuson> lol
23:10 <smoothice> .dns server.animuson.com
23:10 <tronner> smoothice: Host not found.
23:11 <smoothice> SSH is running on animuson.com
23:11 <smoothice> And I'm able to accept the key
23:11 <smoothice> No screen sharing for your VPS though
23:11 <animuson> ?
23:12 <smoothice> .dns animuson.com
23:12 <tronner> smoothice:
23:13 <smoothice> .dns
23:13 <tronner> smoothice: 84-116-162-69.static.reverse.lstn.net
23:13 <smoothice> .dns 84-116-162-69
23:13 <tronner> smoothice: Host not found.
23:13 <K-Yo> I can't SSH to animuson.com "No supported auth method"
23:13 <smoothice> .dns
23:13 <tronner> smoothice: Host not found.
23:13 <smoothice> I can SSH
23:13 <K-Yo> smoothice, you can get to the screen asking for pass?
23:13 <smoothice> Oh wait... nevermind.. I get Permission denied (publickey).
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23:14 <animuson> i do too
23:14 <animuson> when i try through root@animuson.com
23:14 <animuson> :/
23:14 <smoothice> the VPS host must block it
23:14 <smoothice> for some reason
23:14 <animuson> this is turning out to be a really sucky vps
23:15 <smoothice> animuson: :(
23:15 <K-Yo> well
23:15 <K-Yo> it's time to sleep here
23:15 <K-Yo> I'll leave you for tonight
23:15 <smoothice> ok
23:15 <K-Yo> sorry I couldn't be anymore help
23:15 <epsy> smoothice, that means your key is not authorized
23:15 <smoothice> gaah
23:15 <smoothice> ok
23:15 <epsy> (same happens if you don't have any, by the way)
23:16 <animuson> that would make sense since i havent added any keys
23:16 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r961 Adaptions to last changes; some setting changes still caused... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r960 Map settings are now executed with the access level of the u...
23:16 <animuson> o.O
23:17 <smoothice> .seen TaZ
23:17 <tronner> smoothice: TaZ was last seen in #armagetron 16 minutes and 9 seconds ago: <TaZ> lol
23:17 <smoothice> lol
23:17 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit ["Quitte"]
23:17 <smoothice> epsy: I'm having bad luck with getting any of thing whatsoever to work
23:17 <smoothice> lol
23:18 <smoothice> any of this*
23:18 <epsy> where are you stuck?
23:19 <animuson> i dont get how to get the authorized key to work
23:19 <smoothice> epsy: Loggedhead is stuck because I don't have the modules installed... and they're only available for Linux
23:19 <animuson> whenever i do the keygen and check the file, the file is empty
23:19 <smoothice> epsy: Loggerhead
23:19 <epsy> smoothice, well, it's python, it should work on windows as well
23:20 <smoothice> I'm using OSX 10.5
23:20 <epsy> well then there should be absolutely no problem
23:20 <smoothice> it says modules not found
23:20 <luke-jr> animuson: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org :/
23:21 <smoothice> Stop marketing luke
23:21 <luke-jr> y
23:21 <smoothice> It doesn't help the cause
23:21 <luke-jr> yes it does
23:21 <epsy> smoothice, modules are libraries
23:21 <smoothice> epsy: well then how do I get the right liba?
23:21 <smoothice> lbs
23:21 <animuson> im not interested in paying MORE just to get an armagetron server
23:21 <epsy> see the readme?
23:21 <smoothice> I tried
23:22 <smoothice> the instructions are for ubuntu
23:22 <smoothice> and it's package manager, apt-het
23:22 <smoothice> get
23:22 <luke-jr> animuson: you also get headache free "it just works"
23:22 <epsy> well, you will hardly have apt-get on osx
23:22 <smoothice> luke-jr: news to you! it costs MONEY!
23:22 <smoothice> luke-jr: nobody wants to pay for hosting for a gpl program
23:22 <luke-jr> smoothice: people do all the time
23:23 <smoothice> luke-jr: they only do because they are like animuson
23:23 <smoothice> :)
23:23 <luke-jr> …
23:23 <luke-jr> smoothice: so if Arma wasn't GPL, you would pay?
23:23 <smoothice> luke-jr: yeah probably
23:24 <luke-jr> that makes no sense
23:24 <luke-jr> -.-
23:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: yeah you're right... it doesn't
23:24 <smoothice> lol
23:24 -!- dlh [n=dlh@] has joined #armagetron
23:24 <smoothice> nevermind
23:24 <smoothice> I have no doubt your hosting services are very good
23:24 <smoothice> But
23:24 <smoothice> animuson did buy a VPS
23:24 <smoothice> dlh: Any record of getting sty+ct running on Leopard?
23:25 <epsy> Linux running on a leopard!
23:25 <smoothice> ????
23:25 <epsy> @g linux running on a potato
23:25 <teabot> epsy: http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/running-kernel-2.2 - Debian -- Errata: Running Linux 2.2.x in slink
23:25 <epsy> boo
23:25 <smoothice> dlh: you there?
23:26 <dlh> smoothice: yes i have. I haven't tried the bzr branch.
23:26 <dlh> what's the problem?
23:26 <smoothice> dlh: I tried the bzr sty+ct branch and it didn't compile
23:26 <epsy> smoothice, http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/12/linux-on-a-potato.html
23:26 <smoothice> dlh: there were errors with the SVG output stuff
23:27 <dlh> oh, sorry. just saw sty, didn't notice the +ct
23:27 <smoothice> dlh: oh :(
23:27 <smoothice> dlh: sty works for me
23:27 <dlh> If you want to build a server just use the unix build system
23:27 <smoothice> I tried
23:28 <smoothice> still got erros with sty+ct
23:28 <dlh> Need more info. What are the errors. Use pastebin for long pastes
23:29 <smoothice> dlh: ok maybe in a bit.. working out some bzr/svn stuff
23:31 <animuson> i cant believe i wasted an entire day doing this crap with no result
23:31 <animuson> :|
23:31 <smoothice> animuson: sorry :(
23:32 <animuson> my hoster thinks im tryin to get help installing it when all i want is a command to run it
23:32 <animuson> :-/
23:33 <smoothice> really?
23:33 <smoothice> they contacted you?
23:33 <animuson> i contacted them
23:33 <animuson> twice today
23:33 <smoothice> Does anyone know if /usr/local/bin is in the Unix PATH variable by default?
23:33 <animuson> earlier i had to get them to tell me how the *&$@ to install the security certificate so i could actually use my control panel :P
23:34 <smoothice> >.<
23:34 <animuson> well i have to go to work
23:34 <animuson> cya
23:34 <smoothice> ok
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23:36 <epsy> smoothice, check it
23:37 <luke-jr> smoothice: there is no 'Unix PATH variable default'
23:37 <smoothice> there isn't?
23:37 <luke-jr> no
23:39 <epsy> smoothice, echo $PATH
23:39 <smoothice> ok

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