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Log from 2008-12-16:
--- Day changed Tue Dec 16 2008
00:10 <Lizmatic> .. always thought it was landlovers
00:17 <epsy> #m wrtlprnft yeah, he put his keys in a nonstandart place :)
00:17 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:17 <epsy> #success
00:17 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:17 <epsy> wee
00:17 <epsy> #eightball
00:17 <armabot> epsy: Obviously.
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00:38 <SageLord> lol?
00:39 <epsy> #eightball lol?
00:39 <armabot> epsy: Unlikely.
00:39 <epsy> :D
00:40 <sinewav> Hey, does anyone want to hear me complain about how cold it is in Chicago right now?
00:40 <sinewav> Didn't think so...
00:40 <sinewav> :(
00:42 <BabyBug> It's colder in Wales!
00:42 <ct|kyle> sinewav: wanna hear how cold it is in fort wayne
00:42  * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle 
00:42  * ct|kyle rejects BabyBug's cuddle
00:42 <BabyBug> =\
00:43 <BabyBug> when will you start excepting my cuddles =(
00:43 <ct|kyle> go drink your beer instead :P
00:43 <sinewav> it's -12 c here
00:43 <sinewav> `it's really that cold in Wales?
00:43 <BabyBug> accepting* rather
00:43 <ct|kyle> .finc -2
00:43 <tronner> ct|kyle: -2 °F = -18.8888888889 °C
00:43 <ct|kyle> i win sinewav
00:43 <ct|kyle> .weather 46814
00:43 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 14.4°F (6:43 PM EST on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 8.6°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033.1 hPa (Rising).
00:43 <epsy> what?!
00:44 <sinewav> .weather 60130
00:44 <tronner> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is 11.1°F (5:44 PM CST on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: -0.4°F. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035.1 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 12 PM Tuesday to 6 am CST Wednesday...
00:44 <ct|kyle> .weather Chicago
00:44 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in U.S. Cellular Field, Chicago, Illinois is 12.4°F (5:35 PM CST on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 12 PM Tuesday to 6 am CST Wednesday...
00:44 <ct|kyle> i was going with windchill :P
00:44 <sinewav> Let's cry and watch our tears freeze.
00:44 <BabyBug> .weather Wales
00:45 <BabyBug> fail =(
00:45 <sinewav> :'(
00:45 <ct|kyle> my car doors were freezing shut
00:45 <BabyBug> who runs tronner?
00:45 <sinewav> My tires are frozen to the ground. I can't drive. I have to walk to dinner now.
00:46 <epsy> BabyBug: P4
00:46 <hoax> .weather cardiff wales
00:46 <ct|kyle> .weather wells, uk
00:46 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Castle Cary, Castle Cary, United Kingdom is 36.0°F (11:40 PM GMT on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady).
00:46  * BabyBug pokes P4... Does tronner really have to send me PM's? :P
00:46 <hoax> :|
00:48 <ct|kyle> did anyone listen to obamas press release today, all i herd him talk about was how much more in debt he was going to put the US
00:48 <BabyBug> gawd, now the US are stealing our policies? zeesh
00:48 <Concord> lol
00:48  * sinewav can't listen to anymore news about 'Merica because it makes him too sad.
00:49 <ct|kyle> heh :P, it just pisses me off
00:50 <sinewav> I know! We can burn things, like government buildings, then we'll be warm too!
00:50 <ct|kyle> heh
00:51 <hoax> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian
00:51 <hoax> just read that so much that you believe it 100% then you wont have to worry
00:51 <ct|kyle> obama will install thermostats in all Americans homes that he can only operate :P
00:51 <ct|kyle> hoax: ya i hate that
00:52 <ct|kyle> hoax: Read the US constitution, and you will find that that is illegal
00:53 <hoax> hm? im not reading the usc
00:53 <Concord> neither is obama
00:54 <ct|kyle> Concord: true :)
00:54 <mkzelda> http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/2008_greek_riots.html
00:55 <akira_arma> well
00:55 <akira_arma> US is basically buying stuff without backuo since 1971
00:55 <akira_arma> backup
00:56 <akira_arma> only a very low percentage of the current moneysupply has any real value
00:57 <hoax> ct|kyle, what is illegal?
00:57 <ct|kyle> the $ is worthless
00:57 <akira_arma> all central banks do i tho
00:57 <akira_arma> it*
00:57 <akira_arma> printing money without any backup
00:57 <ct|kyle> government intervention in the market
00:58 <akira_arma> most money goes hding in fonds etc tho
00:58 <akira_arma> so the infaltion wont skyrocket to oblicion
00:58 <akira_arma> oblivion
00:58 <akira_arma> but the total breakdown of the stuff is inevitable and planned
00:58 <akira_arma> this*
00:58 <akira_arma> i mean its a simple mathematical equation
00:58 <hoax> ct|kyle, depends what you call intervention
00:59 <akira_arma> no one says it out loud though :)
00:59 <akira_arma> *wink*
01:00 <akira_arma> the funny thing is
01:00 <ct|kyle> hoax: i should have used founding
01:00 <akira_arma> the newly printed money is treated as the old
01:00 <akira_arma> although it it is created out of nothing
01:01 <hoax> founding constitution?
01:01 <ct|kyle> i can tell that they really increased the amount of money created lately, almost all the bills that i got in change were new
01:01 <akira_arma> so its basically a power increase for the money printers/hoarders since money = capital = power
01:01 <ct|kyle> hoax: founding of the market
01:01 <akira_arma> ct|kyle do you know how mney is created?
01:01 <akira_arma> the exact mechanics?
01:02 <ct|kyle> no i can tell the increased the supply lately
01:02 <akira_arma> it would be good if you read that up..
01:02 <hoax> lol..
01:02 <akira_arma> so you can see through all the lies ;)
01:03 <akira_arma> it funny it takes only only like 15-30 mins to expose the whole financial system as a total fraud and slavery
01:03 <akira_arma> its*
01:03 <ct|kyle> heh ya :P
01:03 <akira_arma> basically its created in 4 steps kyle
01:03 <akira_arma> first:
01:04 <akira_arma> FED goes to market and buys treasure bonds
01:04 <akira_arma> bonds = government debt repay warrants
01:04 <akira_arma> lets say
01:04 <akira_arma> 1 billion
01:05 <akira_arma> then the gov or the bussiness banks
01:05 <ct|kyle> but hoax i really don't see how Keynesian economics is going to make us better off, first of all since it was basically getting started was after the depression 1930's ever since then the governments debt has grown huge. Either the government fucked up on it's timing or it DOES NOT WORK
01:05 <akira_arma> go to the fed and get that money
01:05 <akira_arma> but since banks are only supposed to have 10% reserves
01:05 <akira_arma> they can now lend 9 billion
01:05 <ct|kyle> ya
01:06 <ct|kyle> i know
01:06 <akira_arma> so now 10 billion came just into being
01:06 <akira_arma> out of thin air
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01:06 <akira_arma> and
01:06 <akira_arma> of course FED and biz banks collect interests
01:06 <akira_arma> but
01:06 <akira_arma> there is NEVER enough money to pay those interests
01:06 <akira_arma> since money can only be created out of debt
01:06 <epsy> smoothice, got no time now, sorry
01:07 <akira_arma> so they have to inflte the supply more and more
01:07 <akira_arma> inflate
01:07 <smoothice> epsy: you assumed I came to talk to you? :P
01:07 <akira_arma> leding to shit like subprimes
01:07 <smoothice> epsy: >.< :D
01:07 <akira_arma> and credit swaps
01:07 <akira_arma> etc
01:07 <akira_arma> but when the system crashes
01:07 <epsy> well the first thing you did was ctcp version me :P
01:07 <akira_arma> liek the mortgage crisis
01:08 <ct|kyle> akira_arma: i know, then the government wants to inflate it's debt
01:08 <akira_arma> real assets are tranferred from the borrowers to the banks
01:08 <akira_arma> since they have to sell their houses etc
01:08 <akira_arma> its all a big fraud
01:08 <akira_arma> leading to alot of poor people
01:08 <akira_arma> and a few rich
01:08 <ct|kyle> riots next year :P
01:08 <akira_arma> since the interest streams go only one way
01:09 <ct|kyle> few rich being bankers :P
01:09 <akira_arma> up to the top of the pyramid
01:09 <akira_arma> not too shabby to collect interest on something you just created out of nothing :/
01:10 <smoothice> hey guys... how do I disable sty auto respawn?
01:10 <akira_arma> and that is also a tool to drain poor antions
01:10 <akira_arma> nations
01:10 <akira_arma> like africa
01:10 <akira_arma> IWF goes there and lends money
01:10 <akira_arma> to isnane credit rates
01:10 <akira_arma> insane
01:10 <akira_arma> 30-80%
01:10 <akira_arma> thats no joke
01:11 <akira_arma> since they cant pay it back mostly they have to sell their assets
01:11 <akira_arma> ressources
01:11 <akira_arma> industries
01:11 <akira_arma> no trade restrictions
01:12 <akira_arma> and then our freakin chancellor says we have to increase export to keep our etat clean
01:12 <akira_arma> export is only creating a deficite in another country
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01:13 <akira_arma> or in case of the US supplying the dollar hegemony
01:13 <akira_arma> but Us can just increase debt..
01:13 <akira_arma> i want a personal money printer too!
01:14 <ct|kyle> akira_arma: i have one :P
01:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: does ct stand for crazy-tronners?
01:15 <BabyBug> Crazy Twits
01:15 <sinewav> lol
01:15 <smoothice> really?
01:15 <BabyBug> Yup
01:15 <smoothice> wow
01:15 <smoothice> ok
01:15 <smoothice> lol
01:15 <BabyBug> lol it's not really =P
01:15 <ct|kyle> smoothice: yes crazy tronners
01:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle: hah ok... do you have any good knowledge of sty and or sty+ct
01:16 <smoothice> wait
01:16 <smoothice> of course you do... considering your revisions on sty+ct :D
01:17 <BabyBug> How do you pronounce smoothice O.o
01:17 <smoothice> smooth
01:17 <smoothice> ice
01:17 <BabyBug> Oh.. ><
01:17 <akira_arma> JPM holds 1,4 Billion $ consumer credits xD
01:17 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ????
01:18 <akira_arma> dont wanna know how many of them going wonky
01:18 <sinewav> smooth-lice 0_O
01:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: you answerd your question
01:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: oh yeah... anyway how do I disable sty auto respawn?
01:18 <akira_arma> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4bEaRUYaLZ4/SUTu_JcWB2I/AAAAAAAABUQ/PUkcR_WfQio/s400/0+a+jpm.jpg
01:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: is it a setting? cannot find it in the cfgs
01:18 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 respawn
01:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: BALL_AUTORESPAWN: ball_autorespawn_help || BASE_ENEMY_RESPAWN: base_enemy_respawn_help || BASE_RESPAWN: base_respawn_help || BASE_RESPAWN_REMIND_TIME: base_respawn_remind_time_help || RESPAWN_PLAYER: respawn_player_help || RESPAWN_TIME: respawn_time_help
01:19 <akira_arma> sinc epoeple get poorer and porrer many of those credits will die
01:19 <ct|kyle> smoothice: autorespawn is in ivantis's version
01:19 <akira_arma> then banks will ask for new bailouts
01:19 <smoothice> ct|kyle: not +ct... regular sty
01:19 <akira_arma> then more money is printed..
01:19 <akira_arma> ...
01:19 <smoothice> ct|kyle: on my sty server players get auto ressed after 4 seconds or so
01:20 <sinewav> RESPWN_PLAYER 0 ?
01:21 <akira_arma> and in this whole profit equation i NEVER see our environment :)
01:21 <smoothice> .cfg2 respawn_player
01:21 <tronner> smoothice: RESPAWN_PLAYER: respawn_player_help
01:21 <smoothice> .cfg2 respawn_player_help
01:21 <tronner> smoothice: Sorry, no matches :S
01:22 <smoothice> ct|kyle: server console returns no command matches for respawn_player
01:22 <ct|kyle> sinewav: no, RESPAWN_PLAYER  is used to respaawn a pplayer like respawn_player <player> <1/0> <x> <y> <xdir> <ydir>
01:22 <sinewav> KK
01:22 <smoothice> oh
01:22 <ct|kyle> 1/0 decides if player gets a message or not
01:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle: so is there a setting in regualr sty that determines player auto-respawn
01:23 <ct|kyle> i think so, not sure
01:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle: any way to find out?
01:23 <ct|kyle> try in server /admin respawn
01:23 <smoothice> ok
01:23 <smoothice> respawn_time?
01:24 <sinewav> how about RESPAWN_TIME 1000
01:24 <ct|kyle> it is probably like RESPAWN_TIME
01:24 <ct|kyle> LOL
01:24 <smoothice> yeah
01:24 <ct|kyle> 0 or -1 would dissable
01:24 <ct|kyle> not sure what one
01:24 <smoothice> ok
01:24 <smoothice> I'll see
01:25 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 n_time
01:25 <tronner> ct|kyle: CHATBOT_MIN_TIMESTEP: chatbot_min_timestep_help || FLAG_BLINK_ON_TIME: flag_blink_on_time_help || RESPAWN_TIME: respawn_time_help
01:25 <ct|kyle> ya it is RESPAWN_TIME
01:25 <smoothice> Yep.. -1 works. 0 makes it res automatically
01:25 <smoothice> thanks
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01:27 <ct|kyle> smoothice: -1 will dissable
01:27 <ct|kyle> anything <0 will :P
01:27 <smoothice> Ok
01:30 <ct|kyle> i plan on adding documentation to CT+sty for .cfg2 :P
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02:23 <ivantis> auto respawn is in my version?
02:23 <ivantis> oh right
02:23 <ivantis> i think its in all of them
02:23 <ivantis> RESPAWN_TIME
02:23 <ivantis> mine has a CYCLE_LIVES setting to limit the amount of respawns though
02:23 <ivantis> s/amount/number/
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02:26 <luke-jr> ivantis: wd being an idiot
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02:32 <ivantis> &stepon luke-jr's head
02:32 <perlbot2> ivantis: stepon requires at least 1 arguments.
02:33 <ivantis> &stepon "luke-jr's head"
02:33  * perlbot2 steps on luke-jr's head
02:33 <Corn> whats the beatdown for
02:33 <ivantis> <luke-jr> ivantis: wd being an idiot
02:34 <ivantis> but i gotta go
02:34 <ivantis> maybe i will be on later tonight
02:34 <ivantis> on my G1
02:34 <ivantis> :)
02:34 <Corn> :)
02:36 <Corn> How do i make xchat default login to certain channels? im new to it :/
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02:42 <TaZ> ct|kyle
02:48 <sinewav> Corn: figure it out yet?
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02:49 <sinewav> Corn: figure it out yet?
02:57 <Lucifer> it's freaking cold in Austin
02:57 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
02:57 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in LetoWeather, Austin, Texas is 30.9°F (7:55 PM CST on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 12 PM CST Tuesday...
02:59 <Lucifer> wow, I didn't realize how sleepy I'd feel if I just quit drinking caffeine
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03:04 <TaZ> Lucifer
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03:06 <ct|kyle> TaZ:
03:06 <Lucifer> ct|kyle:
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03:06  * Lucifer is struggling to stay awake right now
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03:06 <ct|kyle> Lucifer:
03:07  * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle 
03:07 <TaZ> Lucifer
03:07  * ct|kyle rejects BabyBug's cuddles
03:07 <Lucifer> BabyBug:
03:07  * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle in the shins and goes back to cuddling Lucifer 
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03:08 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: BabyBug's cuddles are all fake, reject them before you get addicted to them :P
03:08  * Lucifer falls asleep again
03:08 <BabyBug> now you're getting jealous ct|kyle =P
03:09 <Lucifer> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/16/insult-george-bush-iraq-world
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03:48 <TaZ> .
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10:47 <hang3r> http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/15/1933218
10:47 <hang3r> armagetron got quite a few mentions on slashdot
10:48 <epsy> yeah, just seen it
10:48 <epsy> -----------------------
10:48 <epsy> (1) SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
10:48 <epsy> -----------------------
10:48 <epsy>   Linux kernel version 2.2.X
10:48 <epsy> shit, I guess :<
10:51 <epsy> oh cool, descent 3 works again :D
10:51 <epsy> babai
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16:04 <luke-jr> Why? So they'll be competing with us for women? We need to make a socially illiterate next generation, so there will be young women available for us!
16:04 <luke-jr> Re:Why noone mentioned some of the classical games  (Score:5, Insightful
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17:16 <armabot> lpbugs: [308618] 0.2.8 : wrong field in Custom Connect menu
17:29 <luke-jr> ]later tell hang3r [03:47:56] <hang3r> armagetron got quite a few mentions on slashdot -- Yeah, ONE
17:29 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "03:47:56" is not a valid command.
17:29 <luke-jr> ]later tell hang3r <hang3r> armagetron got quite a few mentions on slashdot -- Yeah, ONE
17:29 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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17:32 <Lizmatic> hello \o
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17:43  * Lizmatic hugs BabyBug :D
17:44 <BabyBug> :D
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18:02 <Lizmatic> .tea
18:02 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:03 <BabyBug> .coffee
18:03 <Lizmatic> lol
18:03 <BabyBug> .help tea
18:03 <tronner> BabyBug: (tea <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serv @1 Fortress Café".
18:03 <BabyBug> .serv @1 Fortress Café
18:03 <tronner> BabyBug: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “@1 fortress caf” at the moment, sorry.
18:03 <BabyBug> ><
18:04 <Lizmatic> .ls lizmatic
18:04 <Lizmatic> =(
18:04 <BabyBug> .serv Fortress Café
18:04 <tronner> Lizmatic: timed out
18:04 <tronner> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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18:09 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8661 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gServerFavorites.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: Fixed Custom Connect connect action text.
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18:12 <Lizmatic> anyone for cafe?
18:16 <Lizmatic> screw you guys!
18:16 <luke-jr> wtf is Daniel Lee Harple?
18:16 <akira_arma> you wills crew me?
18:16 <akira_arma> screw
18:16 <akira_arma> O.o
18:16 <SageLord> :o
18:16 <dlh> wtf is luke-jr?
18:19 <K-Yo> .wtf luke-jr
18:19 <tronner> K-Yo: luke-jr: nothing appropriate
18:19 <K-Yo> hahaha
18:19 <K-Yo> .tea
18:19 <tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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18:26 <hoop> PinkTomato: EMERGENCE!!!
18:26 <PinkTomato> hoop: ??
18:27 <hoop> server is fucked up
18:27 <hoop> it went down for 5 mins
18:27 <hoop> when it came back $ php won't work
18:27 <hoop> I get
18:27 <hoop> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/snmp.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/snmp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
18:28 <PinkTomato> that's odd :/
18:28 <hoop> guys in #php said it might be some file in the library corrupted
18:28 <Lizmatic> K-Yo: when are signups for OM#2 open?
18:28 <hoop> pages from the browser still work
18:29 <PinkTomato> I've logged in ok, it still says 130 days uptime., and as you said php in website works
18:29 <hoop> it crashed, idk how
18:29 <hoop> may you reinstall php?
18:29 <PinkTomato> I will :).
18:29 <hoop> k :D
18:30 <PinkTomato> I need to do some resource reducing
18:30 <PinkTomato> 256MB memory limit, 512 is burstable, It reached 250MB yesterday
18:31 <PinkTomato> processor 1 is reporting nan% :S
18:31 <hoop> maybe, I was compiling the source, that might have coused the crash?
18:31 <PinkTomato> would still be odd though
18:32 <PinkTomato> don't you think ?
18:32 <hoop> heh, well dont forget it's called cheap hosting ;)
18:32 <PinkTomato> xD
18:33 <hoop> perhaps the HD just got burn
18:33 <PinkTomato> perhaps.
18:33 <PinkTomato> is it working now?
18:34 <hoop> nope
18:34 <hoop> same error
18:36 <SageLord> .tea
18:36 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:36 <SageLord> :(
18:37 <Lizmatic> I will go!
18:37 <Lizmatic> c0me
18:37 <SageLord> ok gimme a sec, making a play fortress entry :p
18:37 <Lizmatic> :)
18:43  * epsy watches the autosaves
18:44 <Lizmatic> sage get your butt in cafe
18:44 <Lizmatic> .tea
18:44 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): BabyBug, Nickymook, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
18:44 <SageLord> What do YOU do about center attacks?
18:44 <SageLord> hang on :P
18:45 <epsy> three?
18:45 <epsy> can name two more..
18:45 <SageLord> you can read my draft? -_-
18:45 <SageLord> haha
18:45 <epsy> uhm, like, #1 and #2 splitting at the same place
18:46 <SageLord> ah good point
18:46 <SageLord> i was thinking about that some weeks ago, and forgot about it
18:46 <epsy> and a move done by #1 which requires one of the two wings to split earlier than the other
18:46 <SageLord> hmm, interesting
18:47 <SageLord> well, i'll put a statement at the end that will ask for comments regarding other ways, so you can post those :P
18:47 <epsy> wait
18:48 <epsy> gmpf
18:48 <epsy> MaZuffeR, deleted http://mazuffer.com/temp/blockmidatk.GIF ?
18:48 <epsy> SageLord, I'll make a drawing, second
18:49 <SageLord> haha all right :P
18:51 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/anawesomestrategy.png
18:52 <epsy> it revealed to work quite well on the average middler
18:53 <epsy> but yeah, it can be beaten, like this: http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9193/blaag6.png
18:53 <SageLord> oh wow, nice
18:53 <SageLord> well right, but its much harder to beat it
18:54 <SageLord> thats a good idea
18:54 <epsy> or just aim in and only grind when you're in
18:54 <SageLord> yea but if you could make position one regrind slightly hard
18:55 <SageLord> but not harder than position 2 grinding him
18:55 <epsy> :P
18:55 <SageLord> then it'd be almost impossible for the center to get through
18:55 <SageLord> nice
18:55 <SageLord> i'll have to put this idea to work
18:55 <SageLord> who came up with it?
18:55 <epsy> the main point is that he can still middle as well
18:55 <epsy> MaZuffeR did
18:55 <SageLord> nice
18:55 <SageLord> good idea maz :p
18:55 <SageLord> well
18:55 <SageLord> how could he middle as well
18:56 <SageLord> ohhh
18:56 <SageLord> you mean the bottom position 1
18:56 <SageLord> nice
18:56 <SageLord> i think i'm going to forgo this post
18:56 <SageLord> i don't feel like writing it right now :P
18:57 <epsy> well, save the draft
18:57 <SageLord> yup
19:00 <epsy> "maz's kink", as named by 2020
19:00 <SageLord> haha, that's a good name for it :p
19:01 <SageLord> .tea
19:01 <hoop> epsy: do u know about the snmp package?
19:01 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): -»|hoop, =) ALAKAZAM =), BabyBug, Cowboy Project, madmax, Nickymook, Pink Tomatoes, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
19:01 <SageLord> nice
19:01 <Lizmatic> .tea
19:01 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): -»|hoop, =) ALAKAZAM =), BabyBug, Cowboy Project, madmax, Nickymook, Pink Tomatoes, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
19:01 <Lizmatic> come join the fun
19:01 <epsy> snmp?
19:01 <hoop> on PinkTomato server, I get this error
19:02 <epsy> it sounds like a protocol
19:02 <epsy> extra/net-snmp
19:02 <epsy>     A suite of applications used to implement SNMP v1, SNMP v2c and SNMP v3
19:02 <epsy>     using both IPv4 and IPv6
19:02 <hoop> hoop@dessert:~$ php
19:02 <hoop> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/snmp.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/snmp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
19:02 <epsy> check your modules
19:03 <PinkTomato> how do you do that? phpinfo()?
19:03 <hoop> maybe it's defined in php.in
19:03 <hoop> +i
19:04 <epsy> well, you will hardly diagnose a php crash using phpinfo() :)
19:04 <epsy> yes
19:04 <PinkTomato> lol I guess :)
19:06 <hoop> epsy: any file.php work fine with the browser, it won't work runnung script with #!/bin/php/, does it tell you anything?
19:06 <epsy> the cli doesn't work?
19:06 <epsy> where are you fetching php from?
19:06 <hoop> cli?
19:06 <PinkTomato> command line interface :)
19:06 <epsy> commandline interface
19:06 <hoop> doesnt work
19:07 <PinkTomato> that's right epsy
19:07 <PinkTomato> random error, worked before
19:07 <epsy> [19:06] <epsy>: where are you fetching php from?
19:07  * hoop doesn't know the answer
19:08  * PinkTomato also does not know 
19:08 <hoop> XD
19:08 <PinkTomato> :D
19:08 <hoop> epsy: where are you fetching php from?
19:08 <epsy> so the sky installed php on your machine?
19:08 <epsy> hoop: arch packages
19:08 <PinkTomato> apt-get install php5-cli << ubuntu archive
19:09 <epsy> ok
19:09 <hoop> ppl on #php couldnt help much :S
19:10 <epsy> beyond my scrollback
19:11 <epsy> do you have php-snmp installed?
19:11 <hoop> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/120103
19:11 <PinkTomato> it won't find it
19:11 <epsy> just got on the same bug
19:11 <epsy> it?
19:13 <PinkTomato> seems it
19:13 <epsy> I guess you have to delete some config files it seels
19:13 <epsy> what is "it"?
19:14 <PinkTomato> it >> bug 120103
19:14 <hoop> thats the error i get
19:14 <epsy> it in [19:11] <PinkTomato>: it won't find it
19:14 <epsy> ..
19:14 <PinkTomato> oh that is the php-snmp
19:14 <epsy> and the first it?
19:15 <PinkTomato> oh, apt-get install php-snmp returns cannot find package
19:15 <epsy> tried updating package lists and so forth?
19:16  * PinkTomato feels stupid, was php'5'-snmp
19:16 <epsy> my fault
19:16 <PinkTomato> works now, no idea how it got uninstalled
19:16 <hoop> :D
19:16 <PinkTomato> I read the same bug page before epsy on a google
19:16 <PinkTomato> made the same misread
19:17 <epsy> blame the ubuntu package nameing conventions
19:18 <PinkTomato> agreed, :)
19:18 <P4> 16Dec08 004620 * BabyBug pokes P4… Does tronner really have to send me PM's? :þ ← i don't want sending error messages publicly
19:18 <BabyBug> P4, Can't you tell him to notice? It's just annoying because it steals the focus window
19:18 <epsy> notice does same
19:18 <BabyBug> No it doesn't...
19:18 <epsy> it does!
19:19 <BabyBug> A notice appears in the same place as the channel chat...A PM opens a new dialog
19:19 <P4> epsy: rtfm :D
19:19 <epsy> BabyBug, no it does not appear there
19:19 <P4> BabyBug: let the dialog with tronner be opened all the time :)
19:19 <BabyBug> yes it does...
19:20 <epsy> she cba doing so, I guess
19:20 <epsy> BabyBug, here all notices appear under their own tab
19:20 <epsy> one for each server
19:21 <BabyBug> Get a proper client
19:21 <epsy> like?
19:21 <BabyBug> xchat \o/
19:21 <epsy> I'm using xchat
19:21 <P4> she uses xchat :)
19:21 <armabot> lpbugs: [308618] wrong field in Custom Connect menu
19:21 <BabyBug> Then they don't go in their own tab...
19:21 <epsy> unless you tell them to
19:22 <Lizmatic> I have to use xchat because I have mac -_- but I liked the other client better.
19:22 <P4> BabyBug: can't you set tronner to not highlight you?
19:22 <P4> Lizmatic: build it yourself
19:22 <Lizmatic> ja, tough chance
19:22 <P4> you can run anything on your mac :)
19:22 <epsy> P4, highlight != PM
19:22 <BabyBug> P4 i do have it set to not highlight me =P
19:22 <Lizmatic> P4: I can't build stuff :(
19:22 <P4> PMs and nicks on channels highlights
19:22 <P4> blinks
19:22 <P4> alarams
19:22 <P4> call it as you wish
19:22 <epsy> ok, it alarams
19:23 <P4> Lizmatic: why?
19:23 <Lizmatic> P4: I'm not a computernurd
19:23 <Lizmatic> xD
19:23 <epsy> just a wow nerd
19:23 <P4> Lizmatic: you don't need to, you just need the ability to read with understanding :)
19:23 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, anytime, someone just has to change the wiki page :P
19:24 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, I suck at doing so :p
19:24 <Lizmatic> K-Yo: someone should have the task of doing that..
19:24 <epsy> BabyBug, UI -> Channel list -> open new tab when receiving a notice
19:25 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, do you want to do it every week?
19:25 <epsy> we'd need to torture someone for that
19:25 <epsy> but yeah otherwise good idea
19:25 <Lizmatic> K-Yo: I would if I knew how
19:26 <Lizmatic> I don't think its a big task
19:26 <epsy> what wiki page are we talking about anyway?
19:27 <Lizmatic> the OM one, for signing up :P
19:27 <epsy> what's with it?
19:27 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, I can't do it: not the time, not the skills (I suck at editing a wiki page :P)
19:27 <Lizmatic> there hasnt been a new signup page created for next week
19:27 <Lizmatic> so people cant sign up basically (dunno where they do it now)
19:27 <epsy> uhm, copypasting anyone?
19:28 <Lizmatic> you?:D
19:28 <epsy> busy with other stuff
19:28 <BabyBug> bullshit, you're all just lazy
19:28 <Lizmatic> haha
19:29  * Lizmatic agrees with BabyBug on this one
19:29 <Lizmatic> um someone has to do it though..
19:29 <PinkTomato> you doing it babybug?
19:29 <BabyBug> what are you talking about even?
19:29 <BabyBug> *scrolls up*
19:29 <PinkTomato> it won't take 5 mins
19:29 <PinkTomato> I'll do it
19:29 <Lizmatic> every week pink?
19:29 <Lizmatic> :D
19:29 <epsy> who is up for copypasting something?
19:29 <PinkTomato> lol :D
19:29 <PinkTomato> as many weeks as I can remeber to do it
19:30 <K-Yo> well, it's annoying to have to do it every week
19:30 <Lizmatic> ok.. cool
19:30 <Lizmatic> tell us when you're done and i'll sign up
19:30 <BabyBug> Make a python script to do it and then just run that on a cron job \o/
19:30 <K-Yo> what about the first who wants to register does it :)
19:30 <Lizmatic> BabyBug: nerd
19:30 <Lizmatic> xDDDD
19:30 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, Shush =P
19:30 <epsy> BabyBug: python
19:30 <K-Yo> BabyBug, python
19:30 <BabyBug> epsy, Yes, you're secret lover
19:30 <BabyBug> and yours K-Yo
19:30 <K-Yo> :p
19:30 <epsy> og I are secret lover?
19:31 <Lizmatic> epsy is a secret lover?
19:31 <Lizmatic> TRON GOSSIP HMM
19:31 <BabyBug> nah epsy is just a slut
19:31 <K-Yo> hahaha
19:31 <epsy> oh yeah python..teabot
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19:35 <BabyBug> teabot phails
19:35 <epsy> yeah, somehow because of python
19:35 <BabyBug> lies it's because of you
19:35 <epsy> :(
19:36 <teabot> wh..what?
19:36 <BabyBug> You can't say it's because of python and show no proof =P
19:37 <PinkTomato> is there any details about the OM-2?
19:37 <epsy> freezes all the time!
19:37 <BabyBug> define freeze...
19:37 <epsy> not responding to anything
19:37 <BabyBug> It's the fault of the coder...not python =P
19:37 <epsy> and not outputting anything on it's own either
19:38 <epsy> BabyBug, ok so all python coders suck? :D
19:38 <Lizmatic> wtf is pyhton
19:38 <BabyBug> epsy, no...
19:38 <epsy> it's a snake
19:38 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, Scripting language =P
19:38 <epsy> teabot is made out of a snake
19:38 <epsy> snake sausage :<
19:39 <BabyBug> you're a snake sausage
19:39 <epsy> yummy
19:39 <BabyBug> nah, you've gone off
19:41 <dlh> .tea
19:41 <tronner> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Báttlé, champ, free kill, Graphire, höMö°, madmax
19:42 <dlh> Needs more players
19:42 <PinkTomato> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:42 <PinkTomato> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Previous_Matches
19:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, your numbers are a bit fudged =P
19:43 <PinkTomato> I noticed, I thought that was just my browser
19:43 <BabyBug> you fail
19:44 <PinkTomato> I'm sorry that I could not make a numbered list
19:44 <PinkTomato> correctly
19:44 <PinkTomato> It exists...
19:44 <BabyBug> so you should be
19:44  * BabyBug wonders how many no shows there will be \o/
19:45 <PinkTomato> I forgot...
19:45 <epsy> fixt
19:45 <BabyBug> Wooo go slut!
19:45 <epsy> PinkTomato, also, don't double formattings
19:45 <Lizmatic> um I cant login/register, can someone put my name?
19:45 <Lizmatic> pretty please?
19:45 <BabyBug> Nooo don't do it
19:45 <epsy> ok, will do
19:45 <BabyBug> :evil:
19:45 <Lizmatic> LOL!
19:45 <BabyBug> =(
19:46 <Lizmatic> BabyBug hates me =(
19:46 <PinkTomato> ah. I see epsy :)
19:46 <BabyBug> I do not!
19:46  * PinkTomato wondered why it looked odd
19:46 <epsy> Lizmatic, hail the pretty name!
19:48 <Lizmatic> lol :|
19:48 <epsy> :D
19:48 <Lizmatic> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201189#201189
19:49 <PinkTomato> where is Organised_Matches/menu_items?
19:50 <Lizmatic> btw who is in charge of OM? there should be penaltys if people dont show up again..
19:51 <BabyBug> I thought no one's in charge and it's all about the majority?
19:51 <BabyBug> (which is lame)
19:51 <PinkTomato> democracies never work do they babybug :P
19:51 <BabyBug> Nope, you just have to look at the economy to find that out =P
19:54 <akira_arma> .tea
19:54 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:54 <akira_arma> AWW
19:54 <akira_arma> GUYS
19:54 <akira_arma> café time!
19:55 <akira_arma> and gals..
19:55 <BabyBug> =P
19:55 <Lizmatic> girls on the internet don't exist
19:55 <akira_arma> not really
19:55 <akira_arma> well
19:55 <akira_arma> no one exists on the net
19:55 <akira_arma> it really fucks up any natural sense for relation ;)
19:56  * PinkTomato gives thanks to the person that added Previous Matches to menu_items :)
19:56 <epsy> ...
19:56 <epsy> are you even coming?
19:57 <Lizmatic> .tea
19:57 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member)
19:57 <Lizmatic> LOL!
19:57 <akira_arma> ok in 15
19:58 <akira_arma> i didnt epxect
19:58 <Lizmatic> haha
19:58 <akira_arma> epsy
19:58 <akira_arma> to react
19:58 <epsy> is it café time or is it café time /in 15 minutes/ ?
19:58 <PinkTomato> tea
19:58 <PinkTomato> .tea
19:58 <tronner> PinkTomato: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:58 <BabyBug> It's cafe time after fix my bug time which is now! =D
19:59  * BabyBug looks at epsy
19:59 <epsy> blayh, I just closed arma
19:59 <Lizmatic> which bug?
19:59 <Lizmatic> D:
19:59 <BabyBug> The stupid bug that appears using ftgl 2.1.3 or something like that
19:59 <Lizmatic> what?
19:59 <Lizmatic> now in normal speak
20:00 <BabyBug> When using the latest version of a library, it causes arma to crash when browsing the servers
20:00 <epsy> #m wrtlprnft log in processes still aren't threaded on café
20:00 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:00 <epsy> a font rendering library
20:00 <epsy> and actually
20:00 <epsy> it's a release candidate
20:00 <epsy> not a version
20:00 <epsy> still empty
20:01 <BabyBug> OK...The latest release then....
20:01 <epsy> I just said it wasn't a release..
20:01 <BabyBug> and that's just avoiding the problem
20:01 <BabyBug> The latest release is the 2.1.3 release candidate 5. See the download page for more information.
20:01 <BabyBug> They call it a release
20:01 <BabyBug> FU
20:01 <epsy> so a release candidate is a candidate for itself?
20:02 <BabyBug> Yes
20:02 <epsy> neat
20:02 <BabyBug> Yup...So fix the bug xD
20:03 <epsy> well, I can point where the problem happens and when it happens(=with what input), but I have no clue about ftgl
20:04 <BabyBug> ><
20:04  * BabyBug is still using the old 0.3 .package version
20:06 <BabyBug> Why is it assigned to you if you have no idea about ftgl ><
20:06 <BabyBug> Silly billy
20:06 <Lizmatic> ftl?
20:06 <Lizmatic> :D
20:06 <epsy> is it?
20:06 <BabyBug> Yes
20:07 <epsy> are you even coming café?
20:07 <Lizmatic> .tea
20:07 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): Báttlé, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member)
20:07 <akira_arma> yes
20:07 <akira_arma> just wait a lil biut
20:07 <akira_arma> mate!
20:07 <akira_arma> mate..
20:07 <akira_arma> japanese..
20:07 <PinkTomato> nihongo?
20:08 <PinkTomato> what that's got to do with anything :)?
20:10 <hoop> .tea
20:10 <tronner> hoop: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): BabyBug, Báttlé, cT¤K-Yo, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member)
20:10  * Lizmatic yawns
20:10  * PinkTomato yawns
20:10 <PinkTomato> damn it
20:11 <hoop> anyone coming to test fortress club again :D
20:12 <Lizmatic> no it sucks
20:12 <hoop> u sucks
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20:12 <Lizmatic> no u
20:14 <K-Yo> *hoop is a noob*
20:15 <hoop> fort club is ok now :P
20:17 <K-Yo> .si club
20:17 <tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Club: Players (2/16): hoop (hoop@forums), JJBean
20:17 <BabyBug> .serv fun server
20:18 <K-Yo> well
20:18 <tronner> BabyBug: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fun server” at the moment, sorry.
20:18 <BabyBug> well damnit
20:18 <K-Yo> .ls bab
20:18 <tronner> K-Yo: BabyBug has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 minute ago.
20:18 <Lizmatic> .tea
20:18 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): CTT_speed, cT¤K-Yo, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member)
20:19 <Lizmatic> k i'm going tharr
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20:28 <Lizmatic> cafe crashed?
20:28 <Lizmatic> meh
20:28 <epsy> seems like it
20:29 <epsy> connecting
20:29 <epsy> -- --- Server died with return code 0, restarting!
20:29 <epsy> anyway it restarted
20:32 <epsy> is anyone coming back? :|
20:33 <BabyBug> lol
20:34 <BabyBug> who does know about FTGL btw? =D
20:34 <epsy> whoever put it in
20:34 <BabyBug> which was..........
20:34 <epsy> i dont know
20:35 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-24.brookes.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving."]
20:35 <epsy> browse the logs
20:35 <hoop> .si club
20:35 <tronner> hoop: Fortress Club: Players (5/16): -»|$øØ M, cT¤K-Yo, ct|Puuquie, hoop (hoop@forums), JJBean
20:38 <akira_arma> :O
20:46 <BabyBug> zmanuel, wrtlprnft ----> https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/246159 ***BIG hint hint***
20:46 <teabot> Launchpad bug 246159 in armagetronad "Server browser rendering errors followed by segmentation fault." [High,Confirmed]
20:55 <Lizmatic> BabyBug is obsessed with this bug
20:56 <Lizmatic> xD
20:56 <BabyBug> it's cause the older version sucks!
20:57  * Lizmatic gently pats BabyBug
20:57 <BabyBug> =)
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21:27 <Lucifer> check your version of ftgl?
21:28 <Lucifer> I'm in kubuntu and not having any problems with the latest trunk
21:28 <Lucifer> well, I haven't update in a couple of days, either
21:28 <epsy> yeah but you don't play :>
21:28 <Lucifer> heh
21:28  * Lucifer has logged a few hours the last few days
21:28 <epsy> @l Lucifer
21:28 <epsy> @ls Lucifer
21:29 <Lucifer> .ls Lucifer
21:29 <tronner> Lucifer: timed out
21:29 <Lucifer> which bot does it?
21:29 <epsy> probably every bot out here
21:29 <Lucifer> .help ls
21:29 <tronner> Lucifer: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
21:29 <teabot> epsy: Lucifer has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 1 day 4 hours 28 minutes ago.
21:29 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i have the release candidate, the problem is, i can't compile an older version of ftgl...
21:29 <epsy> ah
21:29 <BabyBug> release candidate of ftgl that is
21:30 <epsy> glad you've been there :)
21:30 <Lucifer> er, that wasn't the last I played, though
21:30 <Lucifer> maybe
21:30 <Lucifer> hmmm, this caffeine withdrawal has screwed up my time sense
21:31 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Which version of Kubuntu do you have btw?
21:31 <Lucifer> heh, fuck if I know :)
21:31 <epsy> 5.06
21:31 <BabyBug> ><
21:31 <Lucifer> I haven't upgraded to the newest release, I don't think
21:32 <Lucifer> did the new release come out yet?
21:32 <BabyBug> lsb_release -a
21:32 <BabyBug> type that =P
21:32 <BabyBug> 8.10 is the latest version...but some people have considered it a step backwards...
21:32 <BabyBug> I'm on 9.04 atm =)
21:32 <epsy> lsd_release: command not found
21:32 <BabyBug> b epsy
21:32 <BabyBug> a b!
21:32 <BabyBug> not d!
21:32 <epsy> a d, not a d, yeah
21:33 <Lucifer> 8.04
21:33 <BabyBug> ah =)
21:33 <Lucifer> I don't know if I can upgrade my Kubuntu without upgrading hardware, because my computer's too slow for KDE4
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21:33 <epsy> I seriousely hope your uptime compensates your lack of upgrading
21:33 <BabyBug> stupid keyboard shortcuts ><
21:34  * Lizmatic cuddles her iMac
21:34 <BabyBug> booooooooooo
21:34 <epsy> uhm
21:34 <Lizmatic> oh, did you want one?
21:34 <epsy> Lizmatic, you've just become an apple fangirl
21:34 <sinewav> haha
21:34 <BabyBug> iMac's are crap, and now they're stealing my cuddles =(
21:34 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: I'll take it, if it'll run linux
21:35 <epsy> therefore, you will be kicked from this place, and from xclan
21:35 <sinewav> Bill Gates is not an ass.
21:35 <Lizmatic> macs r supeiour!!!1!
21:35 <Lizmatic> pff fine, I'll just make a new clan
21:35 <epsy> STEVES ARE ASSES
21:35 <Lizmatic> .. |a|
21:35 <Lizmatic> the apple clan
21:35 <Lucifer> ALL STEVES
21:35 <Lizmatic> only mac users are allowed in
21:35 <BabyBug> i'll join the |a| \o/
21:35 <Lizmatic> LOL!
21:35  * BabyBug buys a mac
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21:36  * Lizmatic hugs BabyBug tightly
21:36 <BabyBug> =D
21:36 <Lucifer> Lizmatic is going to have the smallest clan in the world
21:36 <Lucifer> hey, if you two start kissing, will you take pictures for us?
21:36 <epsy> luci remember this is all logged..remember
21:36 <Lizmatic> >:(
21:36 <BabyBug> pictures are lame...videos rock \o/
21:36 <Lizmatic> haha
21:37 <epsy> \o/ ?
21:37 <BabyBug> It's a person cheering ><
21:37 <sinewav> http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/stpdrckr420/LESBIANS.png
21:37 <Lucifer> epsy: heh, afaik, they're both well over 18
21:37 <hoax> vids & pics or gtfo
21:37 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no we're not...
21:37 <Lucifer> no?
21:37 <BabyBug> I'm currently 18...not over 18!!
21:37 <Lizmatic> same
21:38 <Lucifer> heh, seems like a few weeks ago you were telling us you were 30s
21:38 <Lucifer> ...
21:38 <BabyBug> O.o
21:38 <Lizmatic> :|
21:38 <Lizmatic> has my love betrayed me?
21:38 <epsy> we're grown downs!
21:38 <Lucifer> damn kids, I swearuh
21:38 <BabyBug> When did i say that? lmao
21:38 <Lucifer> where's the liz that I thought lizmatic was?
21:38 <BabyBug> liza?
21:38 <Lucifer> no, FA clan lady
21:39 <epsy> Genki by any chance?
21:39 <Lucifer> NO
21:39 <epsy> oh no that was KoR
21:39  * epsy is lost with trem clans
21:39 <Lucifer> uses variations of the word lizard for most of her irc names
21:39 <epsy> #stats
21:39 <armabot> epsy: I have 39 registered users with 37 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
21:40 <Lizmatic> there was a girl in FA called supergirl but I don't know any other liz's aside from |x| liza
21:40 <epsy> do not know
21:40 <MaZuffeR> lizz aka wizzee aka dragonheart
21:40 <epsy> lol
21:40 <Lizmatic> liza should go back to flash
21:40 <Lucifer> MaZuffeR: thanks, that's the one :)
21:40 <Lizmatic> I was first!
21:41 <Lizmatic> *although my name isn't really liz, LOL*
21:41 <BabyBug> It's Biz!
21:41 <BabyBug> x)
21:41 <epsy> so you were already playing wow as Liz at the age of 4 ? :D
21:41 -!- gregeh [n=gregeh@S01060018f8d266df.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
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21:42 <bammes> hi
21:42 <epsy> hello
21:42 <hoax> liza is the female equivalent of alex on this game
21:42 <epsy> is that a compliment?
21:42 <hoax> way too many
21:42 <bammes> i have to set up a sty server for a clan
21:42 <Lucifer> who's alex?
21:42 <bammes> but i have no idea where to get the source to compile
21:42 <Lucifer> bammes: we have something in common, then
21:43 <epsy> @aawikis sty ctf bzr
21:43 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Sty - Sty - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
21:43 <epsy> that should be it - yes it is
21:43 <bammes> i did this tutorial
21:43 <epsy> yeah
21:43 <Lucifer> it appears that my brain has been erasing memories that happened before November 4th of this year
21:43 <epsy> where do you get stuck?
21:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Well that's not good O.o
21:43 <bammes> up to the point i recognized that this installs the client
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21:44 <epsy> what OS are you compiling with?
21:44 <bammes> debian
21:44 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yes it is, that means I won't have to remember what my ex looks like naked
21:44 <Lizmatic> great, back to nerd talk
21:44 <epsy> did you use the --enable-dedicated switch?
21:44 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: youve seen naked girls? LIES
21:44 <Lucifer> that's a memory I'd like to wipe
21:44 <epsy> (on the ./configure line)
21:44 <bammes> epsy: thank you ;)
21:44 <BabyBug> lol Lizmatic
21:44 <bammes> did not now of the switch
21:44 <BabyBug> How come Lucifer? She fugly? =x
21:44 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: more than that, I have kids of my own :)
21:44 <bammes> this explains everything :)
21:45 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, she's hot, but damned annoying
21:45 <Lucifer> put that in your pipe and smoke it :)
21:45 <epsy> --disable-glout should do it as well, but --enable-dedicated is way less confusing
21:45 <BabyBug> Lucifer, oooooooooooo....doesn't the nakedness hide the annoyance? =P
21:45 <epsy> (but will only work in recent checkouts)
21:45 <Lucifer> It did for 13 years, but obviously not forever
21:45 <BabyBug> ><
21:47 <bammes>  ./configure --prefix=${HOME} --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-dedicated
21:47 <bammes> but make finds no makefile
21:47 <bammes> and there is in fact no makefile
21:47 <dlh> did  you ./bootstrap
21:47 <dlh> .sh
21:47 <bammes> yes
21:48 <BabyBug> Did the configure succeed bammes?
21:48 <epsy> did ./configure output anything? use armagetron.pastebin.com to paste
21:48 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit ["Quitte"]
21:48 <dlh> also paste the output of ./bootstrap.sh. I'm gonna guess it is an ancient version of automake.
21:49 <Lizmatic> BabyBug is annoying too but she's hot naked so I tolerate her
21:49 <BabyBug> :o
21:50 <epsy> god thank durka..he's the only one to ever put change summary messages on the wiki..
21:50 <epsy> "stuff"
21:50 <bammes> http://armagetron.bammestechtalk.de/errorlog.txt
21:50 <dlh> configure: error: conditional "AMDEP" was never defined.
21:50 <epsy> gah
21:50 <bammes> dlh: automake version from etch
21:50 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: it took me 13 years to learn that lesson, please don't take 13 years to learn it for yourself :)
21:51 <epsy> zmanuel, ping, r950 gets in the way again :<
21:51 <epsy> bammes: bzr merge 950..949 lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work
21:51 <Lucifer> well, I just found something that says that your body is no longer addicted to caffeine 9 days after you stop taking it
21:52 <epsy> dlh, did you get anywhere near to a fix with the AMDEP issue?
21:53 <bammes> epsy: how to deal with bazaar?
21:53 <bammes> i'm not into it
21:53 <bammes> i normally use svn
21:53 <epsy> woops
21:53 <epsy> bzr merge -r 950..949 lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work
21:53 <epsy> forgot that little -r
21:54 <bammes> then lets bootstrap again
21:54 <epsy> it will merge the changes from r950 to r949 (ie. revert) from the main 0.2.8 branch
21:54 <epsy> on your tree, that said
21:54 <bammes> i c
21:54 <bammes> this output looks better
21:54 <dlh> epsy: no, I didn't. I scanned through the macro that is causing the error (AX_CFLAGS_GCC_OPTION) but m4 makes my eyes bleed.
21:55 <bammes> i'll pipe it into the errorlog
21:55 <bammes> http://armagetron.bammestechtalk.de/errorlog.txt
21:55 <epsy> dlh, me too :<
21:55 <bammes> make runs...
21:56 <Lucifer> oh good, I'm not the only one who hhas trouble with m4
21:56 <sinewav> .weather 60130
21:56 <tronner> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is 16.7°F (2:56 PM CST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Falling).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday...
21:56 <epsy> <insert autotools vs cmake vs scons fight here>
21:56 <sinewav> ...
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21:57 <bammes> hope nobody complies about bad webserverperformance while compiling :D
21:57 <BabyBug> scons wins cause google use it \o/
21:57 <K-Yo> #bzr
21:57 <armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8 trunk) (bzr >= 1.0)
21:57 <epsy> bammes, hrhr, I know that feeling
21:57 <epsy> google?
21:57 <BabyBug> epsy, the linux port of chromium..uses scons =P
21:57 <dlh> I like how the AX_CFLAGS_GCC_OPTION macro has big sections copied & pasted with a few little things changed. That's the power of m4.
21:57 <epsy> 0.2.8 trunk? who wrote that?
21:58 <bammes> epsy: 30 apache vhosts...
21:58 <epsy> bammes, maybe not to that extent :)
21:58 <epsy> #help bzr
21:58 <bammes> someone should build an deb file for sty server
21:58 <armabot> epsy: (bzr <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8 trunk) (bzr >= 1.0)".
21:58 <epsy> bammes, we do not really support the sty branch, through it is vaguely maintained
21:59 <bammes> ok
21:59 <epsy> #alias add bzr  "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8)"
21:59 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:59 <bammes> is some of you guys involved in the debian development?
21:59 <P4> bammes: crazy-tronners develop the sty+ct at most. ask them :)
21:59 <epsy> well, those that are running a debian/-based distro
22:01 <bammes> and where to find the f**** binary :D
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22:01 <epsy> either it is symlicked as armagetronad-dedicated either it's at src/armagetronad_main
22:01 <epsy> but you should really use make install
22:02 <epsy> cf bug 306245, for example
22:02 <teabot> Launchpad bug 306245 in armagetronad "Text output errors - possibly spec mode related" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306245
22:03 <Lizmatic> .tea
22:03 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): ||, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
22:03 <bammes> now it presents an language error
22:04 <epsy> did you use make install?
22:04 <bammes> yes
22:04 <bammes> i did
22:04 <bammes> no
22:04 <epsy> ah? prefix?
22:04 <bammes> i did not -.-
22:05 <epsy> so you just copied the binary? wont work
22:05 <bammes> i tried to execute it at its place
22:07 <epsy> use make run for this
22:08 <epsy> oh yeah, make run should create the symlink
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22:10 <K-Yo> xx@xx:~/armagetron$ bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8
22:10 <K-Yo> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/xx/armagetron/lp:armagetronad/0.2.8/
22:10 <K-Yo> any Idea?
22:11 <epsy> OK I put it back..
22:11 <epsy> #alias add bzr  "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.0)"
22:11 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:12 <wrtlprnft> epsy: grml, this is a mess. Both zthread and libm work, but the stupid configure scripts won't detect them…
22:13 <epsy> CXXFLAGS="-fpermissive" --disable-zthreadtest
22:13 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that appears to work
22:13 <epsy> originally, the libm error came from zthread messing up
22:14 <wrtlprnft> well, it's still there
22:14 <epsy> so..you didn't upgrade zthread?
22:14 <wrtlprnft> (the conftest fails at linking time because of some c++ symbols)
22:15 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should reemerge gcc and see if that helps
22:15 <epsy> well, it worked fine with my own zthread build for fts and xts
22:15 <wrtlprnft> the thing is, i tried some crazy stuff while the server was down
22:15 <epsy> heh
22:15 <wrtlprnft> including downgrading everything to <gcc-4
22:16 <akira_arma> .tea
22:16 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): -=VcL.Gazelle, MaZuffeR, Player 1, WwA | Numcuck
22:16 <epsy> actually..
22:16 <epsy> #alias add bzr  "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.4)"
22:16 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:16 <wrtlprnft> (because booting in qemu failed due to invalid instructions i figured some package that was originally built with gcc3 had been rebuilt with gcc4)
22:17 <bammes> make run gets stuck in
22:17 <bammes> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:4534.
22:17 <bammes> (gameserver are not my love)
22:18 <epsy> that means the server found a port for itself and that it is ready to listen for connect attempts
22:18 <epsy> to sum up, the server is started
22:18 <bammes> ok :)
22:18 <epsy> if you want to quit the server, type quit
22:18 <bammes> someone here to test?
22:19 <epsy> IP?
22:19 <bammes> bammestechtalk.de
22:20 <bammes> seems to work
22:20 <bammes> the server uses my old confs from /etc/armagetron/ ?
22:20 <epsy> if you use it from this place, it will use what's in config/
22:21 <bammes> ok
22:21 <bammes> thanks to you guys!
22:22 <epsy> considering you have used --disable-etc, even if you make install it, it won't look there
22:22 <epsy> yw
22:22 <bammes> i normally have nothing to do with gaming stuff, but a friend of mine who is a clan leader asked me to host a little server on my root
22:24 <armabot> lpbugs: [306245] Text output errors
22:25 <epsy> no armabot that is not a new bug :<
22:25 <BabyBug> fail
22:25 <epsy> yet python fails again, how sad
22:28 <Lizmatic> TaZ 1v1'd me in sumo.. he said 'ill shut you up right now' he lost 2 matches then left saying I hacked....
22:28 <Lizmatic> epic fail
22:29 <BabyBug> lol
22:29 -!- TaZ [i=4aeb0b23@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-760ca9dffe91d044] has joined #armagetron
22:29 <TaZ> Dear Lizmatic:  To bad I beat you in that 1v1.
22:30 <TaZ> btw hi everyone
22:30 <BabyBug> That wasn't predictable
22:30 <TaZ> Ya, it wasn;t
22:30 <epsy> LOL
22:30 <TaZ> sActaully it was
22:30 <TaZ> Americans>Euros
22:30 <TaZ> anyway...how is everyone?
22:30 <epsy> do I really need to paste the two lines written right before you came in or can you check the logs yourself?
22:30 <TaZ> And BabyBug, you are mean
22:31 <BabyBug> TaZ, I'm not mean, i just speak the truth.
22:31 <TaZ> You told me you would stab me :<
22:31 <BabyBug> I'd stab you, chop you up and feed you to pigs
22:31 <TaZ> lul
22:31 <Lizmatic> okay, someone check logs of ww team..
22:31 <Lizmatic> I won, now you're gonna lie about it?
22:31 <TaZ> How about Liz left the match too
22:31 <epsy> :D
22:32 <Lizmatic> yes I left because i WON
22:32 <Lizmatic> xD
22:32 <TaZ> You won one, then I won one
22:32 <Lizmatic> no you did not..
22:32 <TaZ> No you didn't!
22:32 <Lizmatic> Okay taz
22:32 <TaZ> You started making excuses then left
22:32 <epsy> when he writes won he means left
22:32 <TaZ> no, it's ok Lizmatic
22:32 <Lizmatic> Okay taz
22:32 <TaZ> No No, okay Lizmatic
22:32 <Lizmatic> so if you won "one", then why say you won the 1v1?
22:32 <epsy> NO, IT'S OKAI
22:33 <Lizmatic> your lies are getting doubled there, taz
22:33 <Lizmatic> FAILLLL
22:33 <BabyBug> OMG NOWAI!! IT'S OKAI!?!?
22:33 <epsy> NO, IT'S OKAI
22:33 <TaZ> Lizmatic, I'm no liar, liar.
22:33 <Lizmatic> haha, okay, nobody believes you
22:33 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@cpe-70-113-115-39.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
22:33 <TaZ> Pssh, like I would care.
22:33 <Lizmatic> you come in here expecting people to care with your big announcement
22:33 <Lizmatic> so yes, you do care
22:34 <TaZ> Only because you talk so much shit
22:34 <Lizmatic> fail#3 \o/
22:34 <TaZ> And can't back it up
22:34 <TaZ> s:o
22:34 <Lucifer> there's a dumb argument going on and I'm missing it?
22:34 <epsy> yeah
22:34 <TaZ> Yes
22:34 <TaZ> Lucifer
22:34 <Lizmatic> Epsy, can me and taz use x team for a 1v1?
22:34 <Lizmatic> to settle it once and for all
22:34 <TaZ> Let's do it then!
22:34 <Lucifer> you should use swords
22:34 <TaZ> I'll own you again
22:34 <epsy> it's Catholicism vs Atheism
22:34 <epsy> er
22:34 <epsy> I mean Liar vs Non liar
22:34 <Lizmatic> erm sure taz
22:34 <Lizmatic> epsy, ?
22:35 <TaZ> And let's have a mediator
22:35 <epsy> Lizmatic, as long as it's empty, please do
22:35 <Lizmatic> it is empty, but can you lock it after we're in?
22:35 <Lucifer> yeah, the only Truth is a core dump
22:35 <epsy> you can do that yourself..
22:35 <Lizmatic> how?
22:35 <epsy>  /admin max_clients 0
22:35 <TaZ> We are going to need screenshots, in case some(Lizmatic) decides to lie.
22:35 <epsy> I have logs
22:35 <TaZ> Lizmatic=nub
22:35 <Lucifer> Lizmatic's not going to lie anyway
22:36 <TaZ> LOL!
22:36 <Lucifer> epsy: is it really catholicism vs atheism?
22:36 <TaZ> Are you serious?
22:36 <Lucifer> TaZ: It's obvious who the smeghead is here
22:36 <Lizmatic> ok, taz, go in x team
22:36 <epsy> no, in fact it was I won vs NO I won
22:36 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r956 Ignore all .DS_Store files
22:36 <Lizmatic> goo xteam
22:36 <TaZ> Lucifer, you hate me anyway..xD
22:36 <TaZ> After I called you SP~Lucifer
22:36 <Lizmatic> ..go x team you dimwit
22:36 <TaZ> hold on dumbone
22:37 <Lucifer> I don't hate trolls, I keep them as pets :)
22:37 <Lizmatic> babybug, come in and spec ok?
22:37  * BabyBug comes
22:37 <Lizmatic> good girl
22:37 <epsy> logs are rolling on my screen
22:37 <TaZ> wait
22:37 <TaZ> Can we make sure no one admin slaps?
22:37 <epsy> Thorn: WAIT NO
22:37 <TaZ> epsy
22:37 <epsy> just watch the logs
22:37 <Lizmatic> -_-
22:37 <TaZ> ok
22:38 <Lucifer> "wait, can I load this down with so much crap that we don't actually fight and settle it?"
22:38 <TaZ> will u hold on?
22:38 <TaZ> Geez
22:38 <epsy> but well, you gave me an idea
22:38 <Lucifer> "I'm feeling a little insecure, so I want to make sure I've inserted enough excuses in advance that I can claim it wasn't fair"
22:39 <Lucifer> (don't worry TaZ, I can speak for you just fine)
22:39 <epsy> OMG NOOO LIZ DIED
22:39 <BabyBug> IRC should so have a votekick system =D
22:40 <BabyBug> Lucifer, make a bot..give it ops =D
22:40 <epsy> @polls
22:40 <epsy> whatever was that command
22:41 <BabyBug> @poll
22:41 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, I'm the kind of admin that's so insecure about being vote kicked that I won't do it
22:41 <teabot> BabyBug: (poll [<channel>] <id>) -- Displays the poll question and options for the given poll id. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
22:42 <bammes> without any trigger in make install the stats will be created in installdir/var/ ?
22:42 <BabyBug> Lucifer, safe guard yourself?
22:42 <BabyBug> :P
22:42 <epsy> [4 TS=2008/12/16-22:42:32 IP=******************] -=VcL.TaZ: What was that lag?
22:43 <epsy> bammes, yes
22:44 <Lucifer> there's a commandline option to put stats somewhere else, though
22:44 <epsy>  --vardir
22:44 <epsy> -=VcL.TaZ: First legit kill
22:44 <epsy> LOL
22:45 <BabyBug> what a turd bucket
22:46 <hoop> cafe anyone
22:46 <Lucifer> gotta wait for a torrent to finish, sorry
22:47 <epsy> you should play MrBougo's armatorrent
22:48 <Lucifer> er, what's that?
22:48 <epsy> a quote in armabot's db
22:48 <Lucifer> #q
22:48 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
22:49 <epsy> #list quote
22:49 <armabot> epsy: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <epsy> #quote search movie
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
22:49 <armabot> epsy: No matching quotes were found.
22:49 <epsy> #quote search film
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <armabot> epsy: 1 found: #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game..."
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an early-90s roleplaying game made by White Wolf before they went all Magic: The Gathering happy -- armabot (markov)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 06:24 AM, March 27, 2006)
22:49 <epsy> #quote get 61
22:49 <armabot> epsy: Quote #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game inside and both would interact: you get a better ratio when you kill people, stay in the zone to keep downloading! the first team who downloaded the whole film wins" (added by epsy at 03:39 PM, October 27, 2007)
22:50 <Lucifer> #q
22:50 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
22:50 <Lucifer> haha, I like MrBougo (hi there!) 's idea
22:50 <Lucifer> #q
22:50 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
22:50 <MrBougo> (hi there!)
22:50 <Lucifer> #q
22:50 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #49: "<ToddBot> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo" (added by epsy at 03:52 PM, July 09, 2007)
22:50 <epsy> )hi there!(
22:50 <Lucifer> #q
22:50 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry)." (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:33 AM, September 17, 2007)
22:51 <Lucifer> #q
22:51 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #63: "GodTodd: definition of great : agrees with luke-jr's views" (added by ct|kyle at 04:27 AM, November 17, 2007)
22:51 <Lucifer> #q
22:51 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to actually give the zune the time of day and looked at what the hell it really does, and wow, way to take something with alot of potential and just destroy it microsoft <Lucifer_arma> that's what they've always done ... take electric potential and turn it into waste" (added by epsy at 10:40 PM, July 13, 2007)
22:51 <Lucifer> #q
22:52 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate Vanhayes. --featherfcuk" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:02 AM, June 14, 2006)
22:52 <Lucifer> #q
22:52 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:38 AM, October 28, 2006)
22:52 <Lucifer> #q
22:52 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
22:52 <Lucifer> where are all the 2008 quotes?
22:52 <epsy> >#50
22:52 <Lucifer> the quote module should have a way to list quotes by date
22:52 <epsy> #list quote
22:52 <Lucifer> no, #51 is 2007
22:52 <armabot> epsy: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 60
22:53 <Lucifer> #quote stats
22:53 <armabot> Lucifer: There are 75 quotes in my database.
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good" (added by epsy at 10:27 AM, September 23, 2007)
22:53 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872F35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
22:53 <Lucifer> #quote get 75
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 70
22:53 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #75: "<ivantis> #toast <armabot> omg STFU ivantis" (added by epsy at 12:35 AM, July 31, 2008)
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?" (added by K-Yo at 08:15 PM, February 20, 2008)
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 65
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking" (added by epsy at 12:14 AM, December 22, 2007)
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 67
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #67: "browser? like xp, vista, mac? stuff like that? cause i have a vista~Neutrino" (added by ct|kyle at 04:29 AM, December 27, 2007)
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 68
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win" (added by GodTodd at 07:55 PM, January 17, 2008)
22:53 <BabyBug> \o/ Lizmatic won
22:53 <epsy> 68 it is
22:53 <Lucifer> liar!
22:53 <sinewav> Best of how many?
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 69
22:54 <Lizmatic> there
22:54 <epsy> 2:0
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
22:54 <epsy> for Lizmatic :þ
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 70
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?" (added by K-Yo at 08:15 PM, February 20, 2008)
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 71
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #71: "<Monkey_arma> to be fair the mess the wiki is in, i cant tell spam from actual content" (added by noob7 at 10:50 PM, April 14, 2008)
22:54 <BabyBug> Lucifer!!!
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 72
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <BabyBug> PM the bot
22:54 <BabyBug> lol
22:54 <TaZ> Well Lizmatic beat.  I am not one too complain about lag, so I say to you, good match Liz.
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 73
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't talk to luke-jr (hi there!)" (added by epsy at 12:52 AM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 74
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 76
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
22:54 <BabyBug> /kick Lucifer shush!
22:54 <Lizmatic> taz, I beat you in an american server and an european server
22:55 <Lizmatic> so stfu about lag..
22:55 <epsy> BabyBug, do you have anything to say? :D
22:55 <Lucifer> #quote get 77
22:55 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #77: "scool is easy it just makes me board --ct|kyle" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:04 AM, July 31, 2008)
22:55 <TaZ> I said gm Lizmatic, gtf over yourslef.
22:55 <Lucifer> #quote get 78
22:55 <Lizmatic> lucifer stop it please :D
22:55 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #78: "<Lucifer> we all live in the other submarine, the other submarine, the other submarine" (added by epsy at 08:20 PM, August 01, 2008)
22:55 <BabyBug> epsy, my original statement about what i would do to him still stands =)
22:55 <Lucifer> oh fine
22:55 <Lucifer> I just wanted to see all the quotes added this year
22:55 <Lizmatic> TaZ: gm? I was quite bored, but thx anyway
22:55 <BabyBug> Oh right so you listen to her but not me?
22:55 <MrBougo> #quote 79
22:55 <MrBougo> :)
22:55 <TaZ> :o, where;s my quote?
22:55 <BabyBug> No more cuddles Lucifer!
22:55 <MrBougo> #quote get 79
22:55 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no Quote with id #79 in my database for #armagetron.
22:55 <TaZ> No hard feeling Liz?
22:55 <MrBougo> I don't do it as good as Lucifer it seems :p
22:55 <epsy> #quote get 80
22:55 <Lizmatic> I still think you're a loser
22:55 <armabot> epsy: Quote #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks" (added by epsy at 11:35 PM, August 04, 2008)
22:55 <Lizmatic> but now you're a bigger one :D
22:56 <TaZ> We will be those people that hate each other, but are still cool
22:56 <Lucifer> she will, but you won't
22:56 <TaZ> xD stfu
22:56 <epsy> #quote get 81
22:56 <armabot> epsy: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
22:56 <BabyBug> epsy.........
22:56 <MrBougo> #quote get 82
22:56 <epsy> #quote get 82
22:56 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
22:56 <Lucifer> haha
22:56 <armabot> epsy: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
22:56 <epsy> oops
22:56 <epsy> #quote get 83
22:56 <armabot> epsy: Error: There is no Quote with id #83 in my database for #armagetron.
22:56 <TaZ> haha
22:56 <MrBougo> #quote get 84
22:56 <BabyBug> oh thank god
22:56 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no Quote with id #84 in my database for #armagetron.
22:56 <MrBougo> I do even epsy does odd
22:56 <Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?!"!!!?!
22:56 <epsy> #quote get 85
22:56 <MrBougo> oh wait
22:56 <MrBougo> aw
22:57 <armabot> epsy: Error: There is no Quote with id #85 in my database for #armagetron.
22:57 <TaZ> no
22:57 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: no, we're not
22:57 <MrBougo> well we can continue if you wish
22:57 <MrBougo> #quote get 86
22:57 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no Quote with id #86 in my database for #armagetron.
22:57 <epsy> #quote get 87
22:57 <armabot> epsy: Error: There is no Quote with id #87 in my database for #armagetron.
22:57 <MrBougo> I'll end when epsy ends :p
22:57 <Lucifer> #quote add "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?!"!!!?!"
22:57 <armabot> Lucifer: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:57 <epsy> me too
22:57  * Lizmatic cries and throws a tantrum
22:57 <MrBougo> #quote get 83
22:57 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no Quote with id #83 in my database for #armagetron.
22:57 <dlh> Start from 0 again. I missed a few.
22:57 <Lucifer> #quote add "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?!"!!!?!"
22:57 <armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.  Quote #83 added.
22:57 <MrBougo> uh
22:57 <MrBougo> where is it then
22:57 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, Don't do a Flex!
22:57 <BabyBug> =P
22:57 <Lizmatic> :DDDD
22:57 <sinewav> giving me a headache...
22:57 <MrBougo> #quote get 83
22:57 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
22:58 <TaZ> lol
22:58 <TaZ> How to add quote again?
22:58 <MrBougo> like Lucifer did :p
22:58 <TaZ> Americans > Europeans
22:59 <MrBougo> in count, yeah, probably
22:59 <Lucifer> shit, I just realized I haven't closed my other account and , er...
22:59 <epsy> MrBougo, not even
22:59 <TaZ> #quote add "<TaZ>	Americans > Europeans."
22:59 <armabot> TaZ: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:59 <TaZ> frik
22:59 <MrBougo> epsy, not even?
22:59 <MrBougo> aw
22:59 <epsy> TaZ, that means it doesn't like your quote
23:00 <Lizmatic> #quote add: "<TaZ> Europeans > Americans."
23:00 <TaZ> xD
23:00 <epsy> MrBougo, yeah, we're more
23:00 <MrBougo> neat
23:00 <MrBougo> Lizmatic, congratz
23:00 <Lizmatic> thx, that was the best addition
23:00 <epsy> was that a compliment?
23:00 <MrBougo> you said you didn't like quotes, armabot saw that :p
23:00  * Lizmatic kicks armabot in teh nutzzzz
23:01 <epsy> it's a girl, wrtlprnft sez
23:01 <BabyBug> it's a shegirl
23:01 <MrBougo> #crazylate this is a test
23:01 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
23:01 <Lucifer> top turd on the pile is still a turd
23:01 <MrBougo> pffffffff
23:01 <MrBougo> why why why why
23:01 <epsy> wow it really changed
23:01 <MrBougo> isn't it up to date?
23:02 <Lucifer> there are pictures of armabot kicking around
23:02 <epsy> guess not
23:02 <epsy> oh yeah, rule 34
23:02 <TaZ> #quote add "<TaZ>	Americans > Europeans."
23:03 <MrBougo> mh
23:03 <epsy> it STILL does not like it
23:03 <TaZ> xD
23:03 <Lizmatic> just face it, nobody likes taz
23:03 <TaZ> Lizmatic, why so serious?
23:03 <Lizmatic> no, quoting stuff from a movie doesn't make you cool
23:04 <epsy> oh also I'm l33t, as show on this picturz http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_1074.png
23:04 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Last time I check, you stole Sin's name.
23:04 <TaZ> but anyway :D
23:04 -!- Lizmatic is now known as Sin
23:04 <Sin> So what?
23:04 <armabot> TaZ: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:04 <epsy> uhm right, end of showoff against a room half-full of newbs
23:04 <epsy> goin café
23:04 <Sin> are you crying taz?!??! I bet you are
23:05 <TaZ> LOL!
23:05 <Lucifer> http://www.sexylosers.com/199.html  <--- there, armabot
23:05 -!- Sin is now known as Lizmatic
23:05 <TaZ> Lizmatic: I wish you knew me.
23:05 <Lizmatic> I thought beating him would shut him up.. I was wrong
23:05 <TaZ> Lizmatic: You think I have something against you, but I don't
23:05 <TaZ> You just get dramatic easily
23:05 <Lizmatic> Die in a fire.
23:05 <Lucifer> TaZ has a lot to learn about girls, apparently
23:06 <TaZ> And overreact ALL the time.
23:06 <TaZ> No, I already know this Lucifer
23:06 <Lizmatic> DIE@
23:06 <Lizmatic> !!1!
23:06 <TaZ> Join me Lizmatic
23:06 <Lizmatic> IF YOU DON'T DIE I'LL KILL YOU!!1!
23:06 <epsy> SO SILENCE!
23:06 -!- Lizmatic is now known as Lizdramatic
23:06 <Lizdramatic> YEAH
23:06 <TaZ> xD
23:06 -!- Lizdramatic is now known as Lizmatic
23:06 <Lizmatic> xD??? L0SER
23:06 <Lucifer> I could kick both of them, but I'd only enjoy kicking TaZ
23:06 <TaZ> Lucifer: :o
23:07 <Lizmatic> See? Lucifer knows what girls want
23:07 <TaZ> Lucifer: he still holds that grudge when I said SP~Lucifer
23:07 <TaZ> And where is luke-jr?
23:08 <Lizmatic> Why are you still in here? Nobody likes you
23:08 <Lizmatic> .. /disconnect plx
23:08 <Lucifer> luke-jr is probably off making out with Jesus again
23:08 <TaZ> Lizmatic: If you have a problem, then please do leave. :)
23:08 <TaZ> You also need to respect your elders Lizmatic
23:08 <MrBougo> <Lucifer> luke-jr is probably off making out with Jesus again
23:08 <MrBougo> ahaha
23:09 <TaZ> PinkTomato
23:10 <PinkTomato> TaZ: ...
23:10 <TaZ> ;)
23:10 <PinkTomato> ...
23:10 <TaZ> wha wha?
23:10 <MrBougo> bye
23:10 <PinkTomato> ..
23:10 <PinkTomato> :)
23:10 <Lizmatic> My elders? I knew it, you're an 80 year-old no lifer
23:10 <TaZ> If it's about me saying America>Europe, i was jk. <3
23:10 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@177.251-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
23:10 <Lizmatic> GTFO GRANDPA.
23:10 <TaZ> Lizmatic, who are you again?
23:11 <Lucifer> how old is TaZ?
23:11 <TaZ> That's what I thought.
23:11 <Lizmatic> Senile too huh? Poor old man
23:11 <Lucifer> I had him figured for about 13
23:11 <TaZ> 4
23:11 <Lizmatic> Ha-ha.. 4.. WITTY.
23:11 <Lizmatic> He's about 13/14, Lucifer.
23:11 <TaZ> Lizmatic: You talk a lot. :)
23:11 <Lizmatic> Anyone who calls me a 'hacker' in tron isn't older than 15.
23:12 <Lucifer> hey, try building arma with #define LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS
23:12 <TaZ> Someone can't take a joke, eh? :)
23:12 <Lizmatic> Your jokes aren't funny.
23:12 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Then learn humor.
23:12  * Lizmatic sighs deeply
23:12 <TaZ> I bet you are
23:12 <epsy> that indeed wasn't funny
23:13 <Lucifer> hey, that would be funny
23:13  * Lizmatic face palms..
23:13 <TaZ> lul
23:13 <Lucifer> epsy: how about hardcoding in the round end message "Match winner: Lucifer" and putting that in an #ifdef LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS ?
23:13 <Lizmatic> guys, taz is totally funny, I laugh at him all the time
23:13 <epsy> :D
23:13 <Lucifer> I might have to do that
23:13 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Calm down.  lol
23:13 <Lucifer> there's not enough humor in the source code itself
23:14 <Lizmatic> ask taz, he can 'learn' humor to u !!1!!
23:14 <epsy> the whole sourcec code is a jooke!
23:14 <TaZ> xD
23:14 <TaZ> You're funny Sasori
23:14  * Lizmatic is an angry person
23:14 <Lizmatic> rawr
23:14 <epsy> (angry dudes make rawr)
23:15 <TaZ> Lizmatic: You have rich parent's, don't you? :)
23:15 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, I can't stop listening to that McFly cover lol :/
23:15 <BabyBug> lol i told you it's good!!
23:15  * Lizmatic lol'd when he says 'us girls'
23:15 <BabyBug> =D
23:17 <BabyBug> Youtube really needs a repeat feature
23:17 <Lizmatic> LOL they did rihanna's "umbrella" too :x
23:17 <Lizmatic> and I like it!
23:18 <BabyBug> i find all McFly's own songs suck but their covers rock \o/
23:19 <Lizmatic> :D
23:19 <Lizmatic> guys doing girl songs are mmmmm
23:19 <BabyBug> ;)
23:19  * Lucifer is listening to Kiss
23:19 <Lucifer> if this compiles, I'm pushing it :)
23:19 <Lucifer> (it should compile, eh?)
23:19 <BabyBug> McFly need to make a cover of Britney's video in the school uniform... =D
23:19 <Lizmatic> haha
23:19 <Lizmatic> TOTALLY
23:20 <TaZ> Lucifer
23:20 <MaZuffeR> lillasyster's umbrella is the best one
23:20 <Lucifer> epsy: do you recall right offhand how I can click on -D options?
23:20 <TaZ> Can I tell you a server idea..
23:20 <TaZ> plzz
23:20 <MaZuffeR> umbrella cover*
23:20 <Lizmatic> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I9NowOyHrsg < lol I love it.
23:21 <Lizmatic> deathmetal!britney ftw
23:21 <BabyBug> haha
23:22 <Lucifer> leave me alone TaZ, I'm busy adding #ifdef LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS
23:22 <TaZ> lol
23:22 <TaZ> kk
23:23 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: I love you.
23:24 <BabyBug> Lucifer, If you want to something exciting i'd recommend bug 246159 =D
23:24 <teabot> Launchpad bug 246159 in armagetronad "Server browser rendering errors followed by segmentation fault." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246159
23:24 <TaZ> :)
23:24 <BabyBug> to do*
23:25  * TaZ wonders if ivantis got that freelance job..
23:25 <Lucifer> that bug doesn't happen to me
23:26 <BabyBug> hrmph
23:26 <BabyBug> upgrade? xD
23:27 <Lucifer> is it in the trunk, or 0.2.8 branch?
23:28 <BabyBug> trunk
23:29 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-249-128.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["couldn't handle it and left"]
23:31 <Lucifer> then I'll probably have to deal with it sooner or later
23:31 <BabyBug> Yup =D
23:31 <BabyBug> So might aswell get it out of the way....right? ;)
23:32 <Lucifer> grrr, I have an http branch of the trunk, can't commit to it :(
23:32 <Lucifer> #bzr
23:32 <armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.4)
23:33  * Lizmatic yawns
23:33  * BabyBug sticks a sock in Lizmatic's mouth
23:33 <Lucifer> there :)
23:33 <BabyBug> \o/
23:33 <Lucifer> now we need to get someone to build a server like that
23:33 <Lizmatic> ...
23:33  * Lizmatic laughs out loud
23:34 <BabyBug> Lucifer, someone to build a server?
23:34 <Lucifer> yeah, it's easy
23:34 <Lucifer> CPPFLAGS="-DLUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS" ./configure --enable-dedicated
23:34 <BabyBug> Oh you're talking about that ><
23:36 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: where is the CPPFLAGS="-DKYLE_ALWAYS_WINS"
23:37 <Lucifer> https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad  :)
23:38 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8663 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): dave@davefancella.com: Added LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS conditional
23:38 <ct|kyle> ^^
23:38 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m4b0e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
23:38 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r713 Added LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS conditional
23:38 <BabyBug> \o/
23:38 <PinkTomato> :D, is that sort of stuff all throughout the code?
23:39 <Lucifer> no, I think this will be the first sort of thing, and I"m curious how long it'll be before someone else removes it
23:39 <ivantis2> im at school
23:39 <ivantis2> being bored
23:39 <Lucifer> it just changes the center message, nothing else is touched (or worth touching for this)
23:39 <ivantis2> yawn
23:39 <TaZ> ivantis2:
23:39 <TaZ> Did you get that freelance job?
23:39 <ivantis2> TaZ:
23:40 <TaZ> I take that as a no. :D
23:40 <ivantis2> i havent heard back from the guy yet
23:40 <ivantis2> he hasnt signed on in like 2 weeks
23:40 <ivantis2> my
23:40 <TaZ> o
23:40 <TaZ> that sux man
23:40 <TaZ> Maybe he died??
23:40 <ivantis2> stupid delete so close to return!
23:40 <ivantis2> yeah
23:41 <ivantis2> what i was thinkin
23:41 <TaZ> haha
23:42 <TaZ> ivantis2: You can do my homework for 10 cents an hour.
23:43 <Lucifer> I wouldn't turn in homework that I bought that cheap
23:43 <TaZ> I would.
23:43 <Lucifer> well yeah, you can only get a better grade that way
23:44 <Lucifer> but I can do my own homework and get at least a B
23:44 <Lucifer> but if I do all of it, I'm guaranteed an A
23:44 <TaZ> Lucifer: I guess you were a smart kid in school?
23:44 <ivantis2> i hate homework
23:44 <ivantis2> bleah
23:44 <Lucifer> so if I bought homework from somebody, there'd be serious risk of getting a lower grade than I could earn on my own
23:45 <Lucifer> TaZ: well, I finished high school with a 2.3 GPA, but my current college GPA is 3.49
23:45 <TaZ> interesting.
23:45 <Lucifer> I blame the depression
23:45 <ivantis2> i have a 3.35
23:45 <Lucifer> without that, I'd still have a 4.0 :)
23:45 <TaZ> So you did bad in school, but did good in college
23:45 <ivantis2> at least, i did
23:45 <TaZ> ?(
23:45 <Lucifer> so I better fix that before I transfer for the rest of the degree
23:45 <ivantis2> havent gotten my latest grades yet
23:45 <TaZ> You still in college?
23:45 <Lucifer> it's all about effort, I didn't put out much effort in high school, but I have put out more effort in college
23:45 <Lucifer> yes, I am
23:46 <ivantis2> me?
23:46 <Lucifer> I started college when I was 30 :)
23:46 <epsy> Lucifer, what?
23:46 <TaZ> How is it being 43, and i college?
23:46 <TaZ> in*
23:46 <Lucifer> I don't know, I'll let you know when I'm 43
23:46 <TaZ> What's your major?
23:46 <Lucifer> Aerospace Engineering
23:46 <ivantis2> epsy: where are you going to college?
23:46 <TaZ> whoa
23:46 <Lucifer> not formally yet, though, I have to transfer for that
23:46 <Lucifer> I just picked up an AS in Engineering this summer though ;)
23:47 <TaZ> Where you trying to transfer at?
23:47 <TaZ> oo
23:47 <Lucifer> either A&M or UT
23:47 <TaZ> I almost have BA in ECET
23:47 <TaZ> How are you being supported?
23:47 <epsy> ivantis2, to antartica
23:47 <TaZ> I bet it's expensive
23:47 <Lucifer> right now, I'm not, haha
23:47 <epsy> I've already edited my launchpad profile
23:47 <TaZ> Then how are you living!?
23:48 <Lucifer> student loans and crap, but see, I just got divorced, so the situation has changed a lot
23:48 <TaZ> ooo
23:48 <Lucifer> I'm currently job-searching
23:48 <TaZ> That sucks man
23:48 <ivantis2> so am i
23:48 <epsy> lol..
23:48 <ivantis2> but im 14
23:48 <ivantis2> i dont have bills to pay :)
23:48 <TaZ> So like, are you in alot of debt?
23:48 <Lucifer> of course
23:49 <TaZ> 20 cents an hour for you to do my homeworl
23:49 <Lucifer> heh
23:49 <TaZ> I jk
23:49 <TaZ> :)
23:49 <Lucifer> *if* I were going to do that, seriously, I'd charge at least $100/hour
23:49 <TaZ> But you're a programmer yo?
23:49 <TaZ> to*
23:49 <Lucifer> yes
23:49 <TaZ> too*
23:49 <Lucifer> in fact, I'm looking for a programming job right now
23:50 <TaZ> So do you just have 1 degree?
23:50 <Lucifer> just the AS in Engineering
23:50 <ivantis2> Lucifer: elance.com, where i get my work
23:50 <Lucifer> I'm trying to get a financial aid appeal, too, so if I don't get a job, I can at least get more student loans
23:50 <TaZ> Well ivantis2 recommended ilance.com...but seeing how his client died..
23:50 <TaZ> ah I see
23:50 <ivantis2> possibly died
23:50 <TaZ> Get as many grants as you can
23:51 <Lucifer> elance.com is just another place where you go bid against rooms full of Indians who can do the job for 1/10 of what I need to get for it
23:51 <ivantis2> kind of weird
23:51 <TaZ> lol
23:51 <ivantis2> yeah, lots of ppl from india there
23:51 <ivantis2> but i think i was the one for this job.. if he hadnt died
23:52 <TaZ> haha
23:52 <Lucifer> or I can big against ivantis
23:52 <ivantis2> o
23:52 <Lucifer> who is almost certainly undervaluing his work
23:52 <TaZ> that would be funny
23:52 <ivantis2> yes i am
23:52 <Lucifer> and hurting the entire freelance industry by doing so
23:52 <ivantis2> but, im just starting
23:52 <Lucifer> that's a common excuse
23:53 <Lucifer> but it's just that: an excuse
23:53 <TaZ> Well if you are in need of money, you can always chacha.com
23:53 <TaZ> .g chacha
23:53 <tronner> TaZ: http://www.chacha.com/ - ChaCha. Just Call. Just Text. Just Ask
23:53 <ivantis2> whatever
23:53 <TaZ> 10-20 cents for each question answered
23:53 <ivantis2> ah! teacher coming!
23:53 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m4b0e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit ["AndroidIrc Disconnecting"]
23:53 <Lucifer> haha
23:53 <TaZ> ..haha
23:53 <Lucifer> smeghead
23:54 <epsy> rofl..
23:54 <Lucifer> er, damn caffeine withdrawal, can't do simple arithmetic
23:54 <PinkTomato> smeghead!
23:54 <Lucifer> #math calc 20/0.1
23:54 <armabot> Lucifer: 200
23:54 <Lucifer> so I'd need to answer 200 questions an hour
23:54 <epsy> I think it's time to phone ivantis
23:54 <Lucifer> #math calc 200/60
23:54 <armabot> Lucifer: 3.33333333333
23:54 <Lucifer> or, 3.3333333 questions per minute
23:54 <Lizmatic> taz's only friend left
23:54 <Lizmatic> :<
23:55 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: that's almost tragic
23:55 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has joined #armagetron
23:55 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Please go back to being a depressed mum.
23:55 <epsy> she used to be a mum?
23:55 <Lizmatic> Mummy?
23:55 <TaZ> You can make 6-9 dollars an hour
23:55 <Lizmatic> Did I resurrect?
23:55 <epsy> I suppose
23:55 <TaZ> doing chacha
23:55 <epsy> @8ball did Lizmatic resurrect?
23:56 <teabot> epsy: _I_ don't know.
23:56 <Lizmatic> It remains a mystery..
23:56 <PinkTomato> surely that's under the minimum wage.
23:56 <Lizmatic> TaZ, little tip: a pregnant woman isn't a 'mum' YET..
23:56 <epsy> until we question it again
23:56 <epsy> @8ball did Lizmatic resurrect?
23:56 <teabot> epsy: _I_ don't know.
23:56 <epsy> clever
23:56 <epsy> @8ball did Lizmatic resurrect?
23:56 <teabot> epsy: _I_ don't know.
23:56 <TaZ> Well if you answer questions fast enough
23:56 <TaZ> :D
23:56 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m4b0e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
23:56 <epsy> ivantis, I almost phoned you
23:56 <epsy> @8ball did Lizmatic resurrect?
23:56 <teabot> epsy: You know the answer better than I.
23:56 <TaZ> wb ivantis2
23:56 <ivantis2> false alarm
23:57 <ivantis2> why?
23:57 <ivantis2> im in the bathroom
23:57 <TaZ> It takes like 30 secs to a min to answer questions though
23:57 <ivantis2> a teacher came in, so i went into a stall
23:57 <epsy> you have school in bathroom?
23:58 <ivantis2> ^^
23:58 <ivantis2> look up
23:58 <Lucifer> TaZ: that's why it's useful to look at the breakdown :)
23:58 <epsy> bathroom class Oo
23:58 <TaZ> yes yes I know
23:58 <Lucifer> but if it takes a whole minute, and I only get 10 cents, then it's $6/hour
23:59 <Lizmatic> what are we even discussing..
23:59 <Lizmatic> I work and make more money than you ever will, taazzzzy.
23:59 <ivantis2> yawn
23:59 <ivantis2> maybe i should get back to class
23:59 <TaZ> After answering 200 questions in one week, you get a raise to 20 cents a question
23:59 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Please fuck off, you don't even know me
23:59 <TaZ> kthx

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