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05:16 <TaZ> Hello everyone!
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06:53 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping, heh
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06:59 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong kinda
06:59 <GodTodd> heh
07:00 <Lucifer> kinda?
07:00 <GodTodd> yeah
07:00 <GodTodd> this stack pointer crap is kicking my ass
07:00 <GodTodd> ;)
07:00 <Lucifer> oh, heh
07:00 <Lucifer> funny story?  ;)
07:00 <Lucifer> it's a "my ex screwed up" story :)
07:01 <Lucifer> doing my accounting and it's boring :(
07:01 <Lucifer> well, here goes anyway, you can read it at your leisure :)
07:02 <Lucifer> on Tuesday, I went to pick up some food at HEB, and my card was declined
07:02 <Lucifer> I hadn't been watching my account too closely, but it still felt wrong
07:02 <Lucifer> but since I couldn't do anything about it, and I didn't need any money for a couple of days, I didn't sweat it
07:02 <Lucifer> I got paid on Thursday
07:02 <Lucifer> so, Thursday, I look at mya ccount online to see what the damage was
07:02 <Lucifer> turns out that I shouldn't have gone under, heh
07:03 <Lucifer> reason I went under?
07:03 <Lucifer> my ex still had a checkbook for the account, and she had written two checks off it
07:03 <Lucifer> those checks didn't send it under, they only brought it to 38 cents
07:03 <Lucifer> then I racked up $160 in NSF charges, it was really annoying
07:03 <Lucifer> so I called the bank, and they told me to fill out this form and that form and fax it in
07:03 <Lucifer> did that
07:04 <Lucifer> then I called the sheriff to find out what the legal situation really was, and he told me I could file a report, she had broken the law, but the DA would probably not pick up the case
07:04 <Lucifer> she had too much plausible deniability, basically
07:04 <Lucifer> then I called her and told her what had happened and what I was doing about it
07:04 <Lucifer> she says "What is this really about?  Because obviously it's not about this at all"
07:04 <Lucifer> I said "I am telling you what happened and what I am doing about it, now listen"
07:05 <Lucifer> anyway, phone call ended with me asking her to give me all the checkbooks she had for the account, and her saying "Well, if you're going to be mean to mean, then I'm going to be mean to you.  You can come pick up this checkbook at your leisure."
07:05 <Lucifer> so I decided she could have it, because it just made more possibilities for her to screw up again
07:05 <Lucifer> so Friday morning, first thing, as soon as the bank opened, I was in there to open a new account
07:05 <Lucifer> which I should've done awhile ago
07:06 <Lucifer> oddly, someone else was there first, so I'm waiting in line
07:06 <Lucifer> while I'm waiting, my ex calls to tell me she's at another branch, and she just transferred the money back into my account and they reversed the NSF charges
07:06 <Lucifer> heh
07:06 <Lucifer> scared her :)
07:07 <Lucifer> I opened the new account, of course, and am spending the next few days getting it all straightened out so I can hopefully close the old one before Thanksgiving
07:07 <Lucifer> which means, of course, that now I'm going through the books and making sure it's all in order, which is a real pain :(
07:08 <GodTodd> yep
07:09 <Lucifer> but man, she flipped her lid when I said I'd called the sheriff, haha
07:09 <GodTodd> first thing i did when my ex and i split up was cancel my old CC and have them issue a new one because i might have had receipts or whatnot laying around where she could see them.  we didn't have a bank account thankfully
07:10 <Lucifer> well, she had been acting trustworthy, and I have to admit, I want to think it was an honest mistake on her part
07:10 <Lucifer> but the timing is really bad
07:11 <Lucifer> she wrote the checks the same week she asked if I was giving her any money for November, and I said I was going to meet the schedule in the decree from now on
07:11 <GodTodd> well...if it were to happen again you'll know for sure
07:11 <Lucifer> and I wasn't giving her money outside the child support system any more
07:11 <GodTodd> right now i'd just assume honest mistake
07:11 <GodTodd> yep...follow the system to the letter
07:11 <Lucifer> the two checks coincidentally total up to the amount I'd been giving her every paycheck before the divorce was finalized
07:11 <GodTodd> you'll be better off
07:11 <GodTodd> where'd she write them?
07:12 <Lucifer> yeah, I think she tried to snatch the money, and I called her out on it
07:12 <GodTodd> at a bank or something?
07:12 <Lucifer> she paid bills with them
07:12 <GodTodd> hmmm
07:12 <Lucifer> her name isn't on the account anymore, but there are still old checks with her old name on them
07:12 <GodTodd> that's a bit of a coincidence that the math adds up, though
07:12 <Lucifer> like I said, there's enough plausible deniability for her
07:12 <GodTodd> right
07:12 <GodTodd> yeah, they wouldn't prosecute
07:13 <GodTodd> unless you could show it happened again after a "warning"
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07:13  * luke-jr needs to remember to do the same asap.
07:14 <Lucifer> she's theoretically smart enough not to try it again
07:14 <GodTodd> not getting a divorce, are you luke-jr?
07:14 <Lucifer> I may have to write off another $30 to Vonage that she keeps letting charge the account, though
07:14 <GodTodd> Lucifer, i would guess so
07:14 <Lucifer> that's a different story
07:14 <luke-jr> GodTodd: if I believed it were possible, I might.
07:15 <Lucifer> divorce is possible :)
07:15 <GodTodd> luke-jr, legally, it is possible
07:15 <luke-jr> only legally
07:15 <Lucifer> at least, if you were in Texas, it'd be possible
07:15 <luke-jr> which doesn't help me too much
07:15 <luke-jr> at least with the marriage legal I have a fighting chance of getting guardianship
07:15 <GodTodd> heh...texas likes to put express lanes in their legal system :)
07:16 <GodTodd> wife leaving you or something?
07:16 <luke-jr> on and off for months now
07:16 <GodTodd> ah...then it's a matter of time
07:17 <luke-jr> currently in between
07:17 <Lucifer> so she's back now, or she's not back now?
07:17 <luke-jr> "want to be home" but locked up in a mental institution
07:17 <Lucifer> oh
07:17 <Lucifer> her parents doing it?
07:17 <luke-jr> that she got herself into because she didn't want to help move
07:18 <luke-jr> lots of moving work ahead = "I might be feeling slightly suicidal, plz let me check in!"
07:18 <GodTodd> i take it the kids are elsewhere then?
07:19 <Lucifer> jeez, she can't just "hurt" herself so she can't help move?
07:19 <luke-jr> kids are still kidnapped, hence the move
07:19 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I could suggest it, but that wouldn't really solve the problem.
07:19 <Lucifer> my ex used to manage to be sick, or hurt, or something, whenever real work was needed
07:20 <GodTodd> luke-jr, if your kids are "kidnapped" call the cops
07:20 <GodTodd> if the cops can't do anything it's because they're not "kidnapped"
07:20 <luke-jr> you put too much faith in the system
07:21 <GodTodd> no, i've used that particular system
07:21 <GodTodd> i know how it works
07:22 <luke-jr> except when it doesn't.
07:22 <GodTodd> i went through a knock-out drag-out custody thing for almost 3 years
07:22 <Lucifer> yeah, but if your wife is locked up in a mental health place, you might be able to use that to say she couldn't give permission for the kids to stay where they're at, and then take them back
07:22 <GodTodd> bingo
07:22 <luke-jr> it's not me vs her
07:23 <Lucifer> of course, getting a divorce and custody would take care of that problem anyway, and her being locked up is still helpful to you in that way
07:23 <GodTodd> then it's even easier
07:23 <GodTodd> bio parents get priority unless they got some real good dirt on you
07:23 <luke-jr> maybe in theory
07:23 <GodTodd> which state you in right now, luke-jr?
07:23 <luke-jr> Nebraska
07:23 <GodTodd> hah
07:23 <luke-jr> = socialist
07:23 <GodTodd> then i speak from experience
07:24 <GodTodd> that's where I got custody *and* right to move out of state
07:24 <GodTodd> douglas county even :)
07:24 <Lucifer> I thought luke was in missouri?
07:24 <GodTodd> course it helped that her mom testified against her...but i woulda had it even before that
07:24 <luke-jr> ok, so basically, to go into a bit more detail without spending hours…
07:25 <luke-jr> end of March, she pulled basically the same "slightly suicidal" crap
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07:25 <luke-jr> so CPS idiots freaked out and went after the kids
07:25 <luke-jr> I'm not an idiot, so I knew what she was up to and that she wasn't really a danger.
07:26 <luke-jr> so they accused me of "failure to protect"
07:26 <luke-jr> and used that as their basis
07:26 <GodTodd> so the kids are in foster care or with grandparents?
07:26 <luke-jr> foster care
07:26 <GodTodd> aha
07:26 <GodTodd> first mistake: no lawyer
07:26 <GodTodd> you have to use the system to fight the system
07:26 <luke-jr> trial was set for August, but they threatened to try to make it out to be my fault if I didn't plea no-contest
07:27 <GodTodd> or else you may as well bend over
07:27 <luke-jr> well, the court appointed a lawyer
07:27 <Lucifer> court appointed lawyers are the worst
07:27 <GodTodd> heh
07:27 <GodTodd> yep
07:27 <Lucifer> if you didn't hire your lawyer, he sucks :)
07:27 <luke-jr> Lucifer: supposedly he's really expensive when people pay him directly
07:27 <luke-jr> but yeah, being court appointed he probably wants to spend minimal time on it
07:27 <Lucifer> especially when your opponent is the state, the same state that's appointing your lawyer
07:27 <GodTodd> luke-jr, second mistake: never plead no contest, hire a lawyer
07:28 <GodTodd> and "no money" is not an excuse...i had to live barebones but i had a lawyer that *i* hired
07:28 <Lucifer> the constitution guarantees you a right to the laziest, least interested, and oftentimes least professional lawyer they can dig up
07:28 <luke-jr> yeah, I've figured the never-plea thing out by now, too late
07:28 <luke-jr> but if I insist on a trial now, I'd probably need to wait another 6 months
07:28 <Lucifer> get a lawyer and tell him what's up
07:29 <Lucifer> shop until you get one that says you can win
07:29 <GodTodd> no contest essentially means "they've got so much on me that i'm beyond guilty, please have mercy on me"
07:29 <Lucifer> and waiting another 6 months for a trial is small potatoes to waiting 16 years to be in your kids' lives
07:29 <GodTodd> Lucifer, that's what I'd do
07:29 <luke-jr> Lucifer: the stupid system says we have 15 months total to get the kids back or it's permanent
07:29 <GodTodd> hell, i hired a lawyer right away and it took about 2.5 years
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07:30 <GodTodd> went to actual court *once*
07:30 <luke-jr> wtf
07:30 <GodTodd> it took 11 months of paperwork and shit to get custody
07:30 <luke-jr> also, upon pleaing no-contest I was ordered to get a psych eval
07:30 <GodTodd> which i got by default because she didn't show up
07:31 <luke-jr> at this point, I'm ordered to also get an updated medication assessment and take whatever the doctor prescribes
07:31 <GodTodd> so, actually, i was wrong...went to court *twice*
07:31 <luke-jr> so I'm pretty much screwed.
07:31 <GodTodd> did you pass or fail?
07:31 <luke-jr> GodTodd: that was you vs ex, not you vs state
07:31 <GodTodd> yep
07:31 <luke-jr> GodTodd: supposedly there is no 'pass'
07:31 <Lucifer> you don't pass or fail psych eval
07:31 <GodTodd> first thing I woulda done was get a lawyer
07:31 <GodTodd> sure you do...if you're society's "normal" you pass
07:31 <Lucifer> either get a lawyer, or spend all of your time in a law library
07:32 <luke-jr> GodTodd: psych evals don't have a normal
07:32 <GodTodd> neither does society :)
07:32 <GodTodd> so...you have 15 months from when? march, or august?
07:33 <luke-jr> I got: Major Depressive Disorder, Single Episode, Moderate; Eating Disorder, Not Otherwise Specified; Neglect of Child (Perpetrator); Partner Relational Problem; possible Schizoid Personality Disorder; Severely Underweight
07:33 <luke-jr> from April 1
07:34 <Lucifer> look like an atypical computer geek to me
07:34 <Lucifer> so, eat more and take antidepressants?
07:34 <GodTodd> heh...most computer geeks would have "major depressive disorder, multiple episode" though ;)
07:34 <luke-jr> I consider 'antidepressants' worse than death.
07:34 <Lucifer> then ship them to me, I could use some :)
07:34 <GodTodd> is that stance more important than seeing your kids?
07:35 <luke-jr> especially after seeing what they've done to my wife
07:35 <Lucifer> get several opinions
07:35 <luke-jr> GodTodd: what good is seeing my kids for a few months more if I lose my brain?
07:35 <GodTodd> i'll leave that one alone
07:35 <Lucifer> also, do your research on the psychiatrist and see if you can find out if he's under the employ of the pharmaceutical companies
07:35 <GodTodd> i'm trying to be nice :)
07:36 <luke-jr> all psychiatrists are educated in colleges funded by pharmaceutical companies
07:36 <Lucifer> getting several opinions is supposed to deal with the pharma problem, but so many are under their thumb, it can be tricky
07:36 <GodTodd> nah...my school is funded by TI and tuition
07:36 <Lucifer> then get a regular psychologist and use your GP for medications
07:36 <luke-jr> GP?
07:36 <Lucifer> your GP can make the diagnosis
07:36 <Lucifer> General PRactitioner
07:36 <GodTodd> general practitioner
07:36 <GodTodd> they guy who fixes your normal boo boos
07:37 <Lucifer> he's generally qualified to prescribe psych drugs, and to diagnose depression/eating disorders/etc
07:37 <luke-jr> I don't have normal boo boos
07:37 <GodTodd> yep
07:37 <luke-jr> don't think I've seen a doctor in like 5 or 6 years
07:37 <Lucifer> use a psychologist (who can't prescribe drugs) for psychotherapy
07:37 <GodTodd> did your kids see one that's a gp?
07:37 <luke-jr> the "eating disorder" is just laziness
07:37 <luke-jr> kids saw a kid doctor, forget what they're called
07:37 <Lucifer> well, from waht I know, they can strike out the whole list and stop after "Major Depressive Disorder"
07:37 <GodTodd> yeah...well...laziness doesn't look good when you're trying to get kids back
07:37 <Lucifer> the rest are just symptoms of that
07:38 <GodTodd> Lucifer, my wife, kids, and me see the same doctor
07:38 <luke-jr> Lucifer: the depression is a direct result of their actions
07:38 <luke-jr> ANYONE would get upset over what I've been through
07:38 <GodTodd> a good lawyer
07:38 <GodTodd>      li $t1,0
07:38 <GodTodd>      li $t2,80
07:38 <GodTodd> would get that stricken
07:38 <Lucifer> luke-jr: assessing blame for depression does not make it go away
07:38 <GodTodd> since it's single episode
07:38  * Lucifer knows firsthand about depression ;)
07:38  * GodTodd does too
07:39 <luke-jr> why make it go away?
07:39 <luke-jr> if I have reason to be depressed, I very well want to be depressed
07:39 <GodTodd> you want to stay depressed?
07:39 <luke-jr> and work on solving the reason
07:39 <Lucifer> short periods of depression are normal
07:39 <GodTodd> have i mentioned "lawyer" yet? :)
07:39 <Lucifer> depressive disorder is "unnatural depression", depression that lasts longer than it should
07:40 <luke-jr> Lucifer: "than it should" is very subjective
07:40 <Lucifer> as a result of real biological causes, even
07:40 <epsy> "longer than it should" ?
07:40 <epsy> morning
07:40 <Lucifer> not really, "longer than it should" is generally taken to be more than 3-4 weeks
07:40 <epsy> ew :|
07:40 <Lucifer> the, uh, heh, scientists that have studied it have studied depression after all sorts of events, including having your kids taken away from you
07:40 <GodTodd> how would they know how long it lasted unless they're told or you're in lockup?
07:40 <luke-jr> well, my reasons for being upset have lasted 8 months with no end in sight
07:40 <Lucifer> "normal" behavior is to bounce back within a month or so
07:40 <luke-jr> why should I stop being upset?
07:40 <GodTodd> okie
07:41 <GodTodd> that'd do it
07:41 <GodTodd> upset and depressed are two different ballgames
07:41 <Lucifer> when you don't bounce back from the depression (i.e. you stay depressed and lose emotional responses and so forth), then it's a problem that can be treated
07:41 <Lucifer> yeah, "depression" is kind of a misleading term anyway
07:42 <GodTodd> if the depression turned into the normal "i'm gonna reach in your asshole and turn you inside out to get my kids back" then it'd be different
07:42 <luke-jr> "bounce back" strikes me as an event that should occur *after* the cause has ceased
07:42 <GodTodd> no
07:42 <GodTodd> bounce back is what happens right before you do what needs done
07:42 <GodTodd> you bounce back from the initial shock
07:43 <epsy> all kinds of emotional responses or just "positive" ones?
07:43 <GodTodd> even anger
07:43 <GodTodd> something other than "life's not worth living...why bother"
07:43 <luke-jr> well, I obviously wouldn't get away with just shooting all the people opposing me.
07:44 <GodTodd> no
07:44 <GodTodd> you use the system
07:44 <Lucifer> yeah, bouncing back is when you get the energy to go get a lawyer and fight the system and get your kids back
07:44 <GodTodd> i had two lawyers in my whole thing...man they took a lot of the stress off me
07:45 <GodTodd> Lucifer, yeah, that's what i was looking for...it's mostly that they look at "energy"...if you seem lethargic about everything then they're likely to pin you with depression
07:46 <Lucifer> epsy: depression is where you lose pretty much all emotional responses, self-esteem, and so forth
07:46 <Lucifer> so when you should be happy, like someone gives you a flower, your mood doesn't change, you're still apathetic
07:46 <GodTodd> luke-jr, i liked kelly shattuck there in omaha...that law firm is all for the father...don't know if what kind of payments they could work out
07:47 <Lucifer> there's more to it.  People who have to deal with depressed people talk about "walking on eggshells"
07:47 <epsy> I would usually respond that nobody would ever give a fuck about giving me flowers :|
07:47 <Lucifer> epsy: there you go, that's part of it too :)
07:47 <Lucifer> depression is *extremely* common among computer geeks
07:47 <GodTodd> yep
07:47 <epsy> I'm still quite irritable..
07:47 <Lucifer> I'd be willing to bet that more people here suffer from depression than not
07:47 <luke-jr> wtf would anyone care about a flower for?
07:47 <Lucifer> irritable is part of depression
07:47 <Lucifer> for some, at least
07:48 <luke-jr> it's just a plant that's going to be dead in a few days
07:48 <Lucifer> get a book.  :)
07:48 <epsy> that's kind of an emotional response
07:48 <GodTodd> think being emo
07:48 <GodTodd> but all the fucking time
07:48 <Lucifer> get a book, man.  There's more to it than I can give you here in irc
07:48 <Lucifer> no, emo is more like pretentious depression
07:48 <Lucifer> if there was such a thing as Pretentious Depressive Disorder, that'd be emo
07:49 <GodTodd> well...yeah...emo is fake depression but some of them have it pretty close
07:49 <epsy> so I may be faking it?
07:49 <luke-jr> oh, and I got a really bad score on AAPI-2 because I "believe that corporal punishment is appropriate and required"
07:49 <GodTodd> only if you write bad poetry too
07:49 <GodTodd> yeah...spanking is a no no anymore
07:49 <GodTodd> heh
07:50 <Lucifer> epsy: you're probably not faking it
07:51 <luke-jr> 95th percentile on some WASI "Full Scale" test
07:51 <Lucifer> so, if my opening balance in an account is $4.44, and my closing balance is #17.44, and I need it to be $23.00, how much and in which direction do I cahnge my opening deposit transaction?
07:52 <luke-jr> I don't understand the question.
07:52 <luke-jr> you opened Account X with $4.44 and are closing it with $17.44… what's $23 about?
07:52 <Lucifer> I'm fixing an account register to match what's actually happened
07:52 <Lucifer> I've been neglecting my paypal account and just tracking the money when it hits my checking account
07:52 <Lucifer> trying to fix it
07:52 <Lucifer> so, I started with some balance, I don't know what it is
07:52 <Lucifer> my current balance is $23
07:53 <Lucifer> so I need to adjust the opening balance transaction to make it right
07:53 <Lucifer> now that I've put in all the transactions that I want to track (basically only stuff since my ex and I separated)
07:53 <Lucifer> #math calc 23-5.20
07:53 <armabot> Lucifer: 17.8
07:54 <Lucifer> I thought that 17.44 looked suspicious, it's my old checking account balance
07:54 <Lucifer> I was reading the wrong line, heh
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07:55 <Lucifer> accounting sucks
07:55 <GodTodd> luke-jr, where do the grandparents live?
07:55 <Lucifer> anyway, my solution was to delete the old opening balance transaction and just create a new one :)
07:56 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I've been pretending my PayPal doesn't exist, so all my hosting stuff is tax/child-support free
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07:57 <luke-jr> GodTodd: in-laws are in Fremont; my parents in Florida
07:57 <Lucifer> hmm, I've got too much traffic going through my paypal account for me to ignore it at this point
07:57 <Lucifer> which is why I had to go in and straighten it out
07:57 <Lucifer> :(
07:57 <GodTodd> luke-jr, have the ones in fremont petitioned?
07:57 <luke-jr> no, don't want them to
07:58 <GodTodd> heh...then you don't know how to work the system
07:58 <luke-jr> …
07:58 <Lucifer> GodTodd: you thinking it would be easier for him to get the kids from the in-laws than the state?
07:58 <Lucifer> and also extend that 15 month deadline?
07:58 <GodTodd> yep
07:58 <GodTodd> yep
07:59 <Lucifer> luke-jr: any reason you wouldn't want your parents in Florida to get them?
07:59 <luke-jr> kids are with aunt-in-law until Dec 1
07:59 <luke-jr> Lucifer: my parents have tried
07:59 <Lucifer> that would at least get them into a different jurisdiction
07:59 <luke-jr> the company in FL that does the assessment lied
07:59 <GodTodd> you get the grandparents to petition for temp custody...get the wife to clean up her act...then get the wife to move back once CPS is off your ass
07:59 <luke-jr> they claimed my dad said he wouldn't follow court orders
08:00 <GodTodd> once you and the wife come back "clean" on psych evals you'd have priority over the temp custodians
08:00 <luke-jr> GodTodd: grandparents-in-law are divorced, dad-in-law has no interest, mom-in-law an alcoholic and smoker
08:00 <Lucifer> is dad-in-law willing to get involved so he can stick it to his ex?
08:01 <luke-jr> hm, I kinda doubt it
08:01 <GodTodd> now you're thinking :)
08:01 <luke-jr> I suspect he hates me more than his ex
08:02 <GodTodd> wow...that's hard to do
08:02 <luke-jr> well, I married his daughter
08:02 <luke-jr> without even meeting him first
08:02 <GodTodd> i married my FIL's daughter and he loves me
08:03 <GodTodd> course i also first dated her when i was 14 or so
08:03 <GodTodd> heh
08:03 <luke-jr> he's not on the best terms with my wife either
08:03 <luke-jr> I'm sure that doesn't help
08:03 <GodTodd> best i can tell you is you need a lawyer
08:03 <GodTodd> lay it all out and say "what can i do?"
08:04 <GodTodd> a lawyer should be able to extend the deadline with no problem too
08:04 <Lucifer> and sadly, since you didn't start with a lawyer, it's going to be more expensive than it would have been, win or lose
08:04 <Lucifer> but you need to make sure you go in with a "I'm not here to be right, I'm here to do what's best for my kids" attitude
08:04 <GodTodd> exactly
08:07 <GodTodd> man...why is this program so freaking hard tonight?
08:07 <GodTodd> :/
08:07 <luke-jr> unfortunately, nobody does contingency, and I wasn't able to find anyone even with free consultation
08:07  * Lucifer is finally tracking cigarettes as a separate expense and has to update previous transactions
08:08 <Lucifer> I didn't manage to find a lawyer for my divorce, but the situation was a lot simpler than yours
08:08 <Lucifer> heh, I created an expense account last night called "Girl Chasing"
08:08 <GodTodd> well...contingency is usually done in cases where you stand to win money since they'd take the fee out of the winnings.
08:08 <Lucifer> it has a balance of $1.07
08:09 <Lucifer> and i haven't gotten laid
08:09 <GodTodd> takes more than a buck to get laid
08:09 <GodTodd> this ain't alamo ;)
08:09 <Lucifer> haha
08:09 <Lucifer> well, if it costs more than $100, then it may not be worth it
08:09 <Lucifer> ladies on craigslist start at $100
08:09 <GodTodd> if it costs more than 100 then just get a hooker
08:10 <GodTodd> i'd say 20-50 might do it
08:10 <GodTodd> :)
08:10 <GodTodd> depending on skankiness
08:10 <Lucifer> she needs to have *some* class
08:10 <Lucifer> hence the minimum $100
08:10 <GodTodd> haha
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08:11 <Lucifer> what's annoying is that I've been buying cigarettes a pack at a time, thinking I'm about to quit again anyway
08:11 <Lucifer> so I've got almost three months of pack-a-day transactions that were marked "discretionary" to change to "cigarettes"
08:12  * Lucifer needs to know how much this habit is costing, and badly
08:12 <GodTodd> yeah
08:12 <GodTodd> that'll help the quitting
08:12 <Lucifer> and obviously I need to either put mroe money into girl chasing, or none at all, but none of this half-assed shit :)
08:13 <GodTodd> put the smoke money into girl chasing
08:13 <GodTodd> you'll get laid in no time
08:13 <Lucifer> not all cranky from not smoking
08:13 <Lucifer> course, that only lasts a few days
08:13 <GodTodd> yep
08:13 <GodTodd> so you lay low, let the money build until the cranky goes away then get laid
08:13 <GodTodd> :)
08:14 <luke-jr> hm, I've been neglecting my cronjob emails
08:14 <Lucifer> I'm seriously considering signing up for classes next semester just to chase girls at a different campus
08:14 <Lucifer> I'm at the totally wrong campus to chase girls
08:14 <Lucifer> the girls at my campus are either hicks or lazy
08:15 <Lucifer> or both
08:15 <Lucifer> no science chicks, that's a real problem
08:16 <Lucifer> so, my ex's company got bought, and now she's required to work until 5pm every day
08:16 <Lucifer> she wants me to try to find time to watch the kids in the afternoons
08:16 <Lucifer> she's feeling the pain, oh yeah, she's feeling it
08:18 <GodTodd> heh
08:28 <Lucifer> what makes it worse for her is that they don't want her to go full-time until January
08:28 <Lucifer> and right now, I can't take the kids in the afternoon, my schedule doesn't permit it
08:28 <Lucifer> well, if we were still together, I could see fit to do something so my schedule *would* permit it
08:28 <Lucifer> that's part of being married, you roll with the punches
08:29 <Lucifer> but now it's her problem, not mine
08:29 <Lucifer> she mentioned she might have to move in with her mom if she can't get the kids watched in the afternoons
08:29 <Lucifer> in our decree, it clearly states that if she moves away, *she* has to bring them to me for visitation
08:29 <Lucifer> again, that's her problem :)
08:43 <GodTodd> yep
08:44 <Lucifer> hey, did I tell you about the business card I found in my wallet?  ;)
08:47 <Lucifer> two summers ago, if you remember (you probably don't), I setup the telescope for the astronomy class
08:47 <Lucifer> to set it up, you have to take it outside during the day and point it at some stationary object and make a few adjustments
08:47 <GodTodd> sounds vaguely familiar
08:47 <Lucifer> so I took it into the courtyard to do it, which happens to be in front of the library
08:48 <Lucifer> one of the reference librarians came out to talk to me, and she was acting kinda flirty
08:48 <Lucifer> she gave me her card and asked me to call her if I needed anything from the library
08:48 <Lucifer> sometime after that, I dropped into the conversation that I was married
08:48 <Lucifer> put the card in my pocket, and forgot about it, sorta
08:48 <Lucifer> told my ex about it, and she was really pissed :)
08:48 <Lucifer> said I had done something to attract her attention, bitched that I was out there with the telescope (can't you do that in the lab?) and so forth
08:49 <Lucifer> anyway, I was cleaning out my wallet, and whadya know?  That librarian's card was still there
08:49 <Lucifer> along with some other cards that have been there even longer :)
08:49 <GodTodd> heh
08:49 <GodTodd> call her?
08:49 <GodTodd> ;)
08:49 <Lucifer> so I checked to see that she still worked at acc (she's at a different campus now), and emailed her
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08:50 <GodTodd> cool :)
08:50 <Lucifer> if she responds, I might wind up putting more money into my girl chasing account, heh
08:50 <Lucifer> I got a webpage for her, hang on
08:51 <Lucifer> there you go
08:52 <GodTodd> she's pretty cute
08:53 <Lucifer> yeah, heh
08:53 <Lucifer> of course she is, she's in AUstin, isn't she?
08:53 <GodTodd> heh
08:53 <GodTodd> there's some cuties here too
08:53 <GodTodd> too bad i'm married ;)
08:54 <Lucifer> hey, there's nothing like a hot chick on a "Read" poster
08:55 <Lucifer> you can't make porn that's better than that
08:55 <Lucifer> seriously
08:55 <GodTodd> haha
08:56 <GodTodd> skimpier clothes and some "come hither" glasses would be perfect ;)
08:56 <Lucifer> when I first saw her, she was wearing glasses, and a long skirt
08:57 <Lucifer> maybe I should dream up a reason to visit the Stassney campus
08:57 <Lucifer> look through the library for a book they only have there....
09:02 <Lucifer> yay, I'm finally in November
09:02 <Lucifer> maybe I'll be finished in another 20 minutes or so :/
09:04 <GodTodd> heh
09:04 <GodTodd> you know much assembly?
09:04 <Lucifer> nada
09:04 <Lucifer> I used to know *some* assembly for the C-64, that's it
09:04 <GodTodd> meh
09:05 <Lucifer> just write it in C and use GCC to get the assembly for it :)
09:05 <GodTodd> i have to take in one character from the keyboard and put it in the alphabet at the correct spot
09:05 <GodTodd> i'd have to remember C for that :P
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09:53 <luke-jr> I know MIPS assembly…
09:59 <GodTodd> you do?
09:59 <GodTodd> i can't wrap my head around this for some reason
10:01 <GodTodd>
10:01 <GodTodd> that's the program i have to do
10:02 <GodTodd> i'm having trouble with the "insert the character into the string" part :/
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13:31 <StickyNo1b> that must be one of the worst programming exercises ive ever seen
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14:26 <GodTodd> StickyNo1b, i agree but, alas, i must at least attempt it ;)
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15:03 <TaZ> Good morning everyone!
15:18 <Lucifer> can you use sizeof to get the number of items in an enum?
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18:12 <noob_saibot> Hey Pink are you there
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18:19 <Lucifer> grrr, got a completely professional reply :(
18:23 <luke-jr> ?
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18:28 <Lucifer> from the librarian I emailed, the one that made a pass at me over a year ago
18:28 <noob_saibot> LOL
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18:39 <Lucifer> eeek, I should've waited until my website was back up before emailing her, haha
18:39 <Lucifer> duh
18:43 <Lucifer> have to find a way to casually mention I'm not married anymore
18:44 <K-Yo> Lucifer, try that: "hey, i'm not married anymore, how are you?"
18:44 <K-Yo> soooo casual
18:44  * Lucifer sings to himself "Don't take dating advice from irc channels!"
18:44 <K-Yo> haha
18:44 <Lucifer> wait, she's nerdy, maybe that'll work!?!?
18:44 <ct|kyle> LOL
18:45 <K-Yo> xD
18:45 <K-Yo> if she's nerdy you can still try to joke
18:46 <Lucifer> oh well, I pulled out the artillery
18:46 <K-Yo> "hey, some guys I don't know told me on an irc chan that I should tell you about me being not amrried anymore... but I refused and told them they were wrong! I should not tell you! what do you think?"
18:46 <K-Yo> and 2 secs after:
18:46 <Lucifer> made a sidelong complaint about having to give up my personal library to a marriage that's over
18:46 <K-Yo> "oops, I told you :$"
18:46 <Lucifer> asked offhand if she happened to know how to decompress a rar file in linux
18:46 <Lucifer> if that doesn't get her attention, she's not nerdy enough!
18:46 <K-Yo> totally
18:47 <Lucifer> hey, I already had unrar installed
18:49 <Lucifer> oh wait, the .rar file isn't finished downloading
18:49 <Lucifer> that means I'm full up on megadeth now!  :)
18:54 <Lucifer> if she gives another perfectly professional response, that's a blow off, I think
19:10 <K-Yo> tell us!
19:15 <Lucifer> oooo, got her exchanging xkcd links
19:17 <K-Yo> hmmm, exchanges are good
19:17 <epsy> xkcdchangists
19:18 <K-Yo> haha
19:20 <Lucifer> http://xkcd.com/280/
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19:42 <Novocaine> Heya.
19:43 <Novocaine> epsy, there?
19:43 <epsy> hi
19:43 <Novocaine> I haef a pr0blemz. During make.
19:43 <Novocaine> make[3]: Entering directory `/home/armagetronad.0.2.8_r899/src'
19:43 <Novocaine> g++   -I./tools  -I./render -I./ui     -I./network -I./engine  -I./thirdparty/particles -I./tron  -O2 -Wno-long-long   -o armagetronad_main armagetronad_main-gFloor.o libtron.a libenginecore.a libengine.a libnetwork.a libui.a librender.a libtools.a -lpthread -lm -L/usr/lib -lxml2
19:43 <Novocaine> libengine.a(libengine_a-ePlayer.o): In function `handle_chat(nMessage&)':
19:43 <Novocaine> ePlayer.cpp:(.text+0x1ce5f): undefined reference to `se_ListAdmins(ePlayerNetID*, std::basic_istream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, tString)'
19:43 <Novocaine> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
19:44 <epsy> revision?
19:44 <Novocaine> 899.
19:44 <epsy> enable authentication
19:45 <Novocaine> Hold on.
19:45 <epsy> also, please use pastebin to paste stuff
19:45 <Novocaine> Figured, since it was only 4 lines... but aight.
19:47 <Novocaine> Ah, seems to have worked.
19:48 <Novocaine> Nice. Thanks :)
19:48 <epsy> yw
19:49 <Novocaine> Yup, works. Just connected to it.
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19:55 <Lucifer> definitely, get yourself a female roommate before you chase girls
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20:11 <luke-jr> ⁇?
20:11 <luke-jr> how does that even begin to make sense?
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20:42 <Lucifer> hahaha
20:56 <epsy> the -9 succeeded, indeed
20:56 <epsy> @success
20:56 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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21:18 <luke-jr> ⁇⁇⁇?
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21:18 <Ratchet--> gm
21:18 <Ratchet--> hmm***
21:18 <Ratchet--> I need assistance plox :P
21:18 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: try in #ImoutoBot
21:18 <epsy> you'd rather not, if you ask me
21:19 <Ratchet--> oka
21:19 <Ratchet--> Anyone know if msn can be ran from Wine
21:19 <luke-jr> why would anyone run crap like MSN?
21:20 <epsy> no, the installer doesn't want to install WLM
21:20 <epsy> use pidgin, kopete, or aMSN
21:20 <Ratchet--> pidgin is plain
21:21 <Ratchet--> i like colors
21:21 <epsy> I don't get it
21:23 <Ratchet--> i'm getting kopete amsn etc :P
21:23 <Ratchet--> are there some for AIM as well?
21:23 <epsy> I don't get what's being wrong with pidgin
21:23 <luke-jr> pidgin sucks
21:23 <epsy> pidgin does AIM
21:23 <luke-jr> it's gtk
21:23 <epsy> it would suck because it's python, not because it's gtk
21:23 <Lucifer> pidgin sucks more than a little
21:23 <ct|kyle> Ratchet--: colourize pidgin with the plugin
21:24 <Lucifer> pidgin sucked before the name change
21:24 <Lucifer> truth is self-evident
21:24 <luke-jr> pidgin isn't python
21:26 <epsy> ok but being run with gtk is less wrong than being run with qt :P
21:26 <epsy> (using gvfs is heresy tho)
21:26 <luke-jr> qt is win
21:28 <Lucifer> besides, at the end of the day, why would you *want* to talk to anybody on msn?
21:28 <Ratchet--> lol
21:28 <luke-jr> Lucifer: come play werewolves in #ImoutoBot ?
21:29 <Ratchet--> itsfun
21:29 <Ratchet--> i jus pwnt everyone
21:29 <Ratchet--> i was wolf
21:29 <epsy> can you stop advertising #ImoutuBot ALL THE FUCKLING TIME, please
21:29 <luke-jr> then come play XD
21:29 <luke-jr> 4 player games get boring
21:31 <ct|kyle> .California luke-jr
21:31 <tronner> luke-jr is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
21:31 <epsy> as fun as #ImoutuBot
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21:40 <TaZ> Good afternoon everyone!
21:41 <TaZ> Anyone here?
21:41 <epsy> hi
21:41 <TaZ> Hey epsyy
21:41 <TaZ> How you doing?
21:42 <epsy> I'm fine
21:42 <epsy> you?
21:42 <TaZ> Doing good man.
21:42 <Lucifer> .California California
21:42 <tronner> California is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
21:42 <TaZ> :o
21:43 <TaZ> Epsy, I can't wait to play you in the TST
21:43 <epsy> heh
21:43 <TaZ> Be prepared.
21:43 <Lucifer> .California Being prepared
21:43 <tronner> Being prepared is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
21:43 <epsy> GL, it's not sure we get to fight eachother
21:44 <Lucifer> er, something's wrong there
21:44 <TaZ> I think we will :P
21:44 <TaZ> .California Being something
21:44 <tronner> Being something is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
21:44 <TaZ> .California Oranges
21:44 <tronner> Oranges is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
21:45 <noob13> Oo
21:45 <epsy> .California Cancer
21:45 <tronner> Cancer is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
21:45 <TaZ> .California Lucifer
21:45 <tronner> Lucifer is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
21:45 <epsy> .California Cancer is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
21:45 <tronner> Cancer is known to the state of California to causes Cancer is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
21:45 <TaZ> LOL
21:46 <TaZ> .North Carolina Trees
21:46 <TaZ> Of course that doesn't work.
21:46 <TaZ> :/
21:47 <TaZ> Where's luke-jr?
21:47 <luke-jr> f u
21:48 <epsy> "fucking you"
21:48 <Lucifer> "fucking underhanded"
21:48 <luke-jr> liar
21:48 <TaZ> pshh
21:48 <Lucifer> you saying you prefer to fuck overhanded?
21:49 <TaZ> ~*SP*~ Lucifer right?
21:49 <luke-jr> …
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21:49 <luke-jr> lol
21:49 <epsy> LOL
21:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer] by Lucifer
21:50 -!- TaZ [i=981ea123@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-74fd2edf6ea0be09] has joined #armagetron
21:50 <TaZ> :S
21:50 <epsy> You guess he isn't :à
21:50 <TaZ> Talk about defensive.l
21:50 <epsy> :) *
21:51 <TaZ> :P
21:51 -!- Ratchet-- [n=joshua@99-195-41-121.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
21:51 <TaZ> Someone has something against SP...:O
21:51 <Lucifer> doesn't everyone?
21:51 <TaZ> No
21:51 <luke-jr> lol
21:51 <TaZ> I think only you.
21:51 <Lucifer> heh
21:51 <TaZ> :)
21:51 <Lucifer> at this point, it's more a joke than anything ;)
21:52 <TaZ> Ok.
21:52 <TaZ> But don't kick me again.
21:52 <TaZ> Or else...
21:52 <TaZ> I'll ban you.
21:52 <luke-jr> …….
21:52 <TaZ> From tron.
21:52 <Lucifer> hmmm....
21:52 <Lucifer> from tron?
21:52 <luke-jr> TaZ is asking for it
21:52 <Lucifer> you'd do that for me?
21:52 <TaZ> From tron.
21:52 <Lucifer> and all I have to do is kick you?
21:52 <TaZ> LOL!
21:52 <Lucifer> (which I enjoy doing)
21:52 <epsy> or else he will call the .. uhm
21:52 <epsy> how is he called?
21:52 <luke-jr> TaZ: Lucifer is one of the few people who could ban someone from the game.
21:52 <luke-jr> you are not.
21:52 <TaZ> Of course you do you little admin abuser:P
21:52 <Lucifer> little?
21:53 <TaZ> Ok
21:53 <TaZ> Huge*
21:53 <epsy> the guy that can get you <a>Banned From the Internet</a>
21:53 <Lucifer> (that's the only word there that I disagree with)
21:53 <Lucifer> do you often threaten to ban people from tron?
21:53 <TaZ> All the time
21:53 <Lucifer> just curious, mind you
21:53 <Lucifer> I do prefer to play armagetron myself, so getting banned from tron won't hurt me one bit
21:53 <TaZ> I do it to luke-jr all the time.
21:54 <epsy> do you often threaten to ban developers from their own games?
21:54 <Lucifer> hey, why am I talking trash to him when I could be flirting with a librarian?
21:54 <TaZ> All the time.
21:54 <luke-jr>
21:54 <TaZ> I do it to Z-man all the time.
21:54 <Lucifer> I do z-man all the time too
21:54 <Lucifer> er
21:54 <Lucifer> did I actually say that?
21:54 <epsy> indeed
21:54 <luke-jr> wcu.edu
21:54 <TaZ> Thanks lukey
21:54 <luke-jr> Western Carolina University
21:55 <luke-jr> with a bunch of ugly fat women on the page
21:55 <Lucifer> there's no state called West Carolina, though
21:55 <luke-jr> Cullowhee. NC 28723       •      Campus Information: 828.227.7211
21:55 <TaZ> Well jeez
21:55 <epsy> are they just sitting around or are they meant to be studying anything?
21:56 <TaZ> Whats my social security number?
21:56 <luke-jr> TaZ: 1 sec
21:56 <Lucifer> ugly fat women are taking kinesiology classes
21:56 <Lucifer> so they can become ugly skinny women
21:56 <TaZ> LOL! luke
21:56 <luke-jr> TaZ: it starts with 24 …
21:56 <TaZ> It's the mountains, what do you expect?
21:56 <luke-jr> hold on, getting more…
21:56 <TaZ> Um no
21:57 <luke-jr> oh, you must have moved there then
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21:57 <Lucifer> TaZ: he's getting your SSN mixed up with his
21:57 <luke-jr> Lucifer: nah, I just looked up the North Carolina SSN prefixes
21:57 <epsy> I wonder how I am ever going to remember it
21:57 <Lucifer> taz goes to that school?
21:57 <TaZ> Honestly that information is not hard to pull up.
21:57 <TaZ> Yes
21:57 <Lucifer> no wonder he's so full of himself, he's surrounded by ugly fat women
21:57 <TaZ> Do you blame me?
21:57  * epsy is soon going to change IPs
21:57 <Lucifer> probably has his pick of the litter, at that
21:57 <TaZ> :S
21:58 <TaZ> But srsly, that info is pretty easy to get
21:58 <Lucifer> TaZ: you're two steps behind in this conversation
21:58 <Lucifer> just FYI
21:59 <TaZ> Ahem
21:59 <Lucifer> see, we're not ugly fat women :)
21:59 <TaZ> and how is your dayLucifer?
21:59 <Lucifer> hey, my day's going great
21:59 <TaZ> Are you sure lucifer?
21:59 <epsy> just ugly fat men
21:59 <TaZ> LOL!
21:59 <Lucifer> I traded xkcd links with a hot librarian
21:59 <TaZ> Be back in like 2 mins
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21:59 <epsy> @date
21:59 <teabot> epsy: 12:59 PM, November 24, 2008
21:59 <epsy> good afternoon, dudes
22:00 <epsy> [21:58] <teabot>: epsy: 12:59 PM, November 24, 2008
22:00  * epsy hates teabot
22:00 <Lucifer> hmmm, it's 3pm here
22:01 <epsy> hopefully I'll soon migrate it to haiti :<
22:02 <Lucifer> do you thinka they speaka yo' language?
22:02 <epsy> well, haiti's gonnaa be right in my living
22:02 <Lucifer> there was a lady from haiti in my speech class
22:03 <Lucifer> she had a really sexy accent
22:03 <epsy> i'll explain my shitty naming sheme:
22:03 <Lucifer> no, wait, don't
22:03 <epsy> currently, teabot is hosted at fiji.dreamhost.com (see /whois, it's not masked)
22:03 <Lucifer> I don't know if I really want to know another damn geek's naming convention
22:04 <epsy> I'm already ready and changed my PC's hostname to heidi
22:04 <Lucifer> heidi's a hot name
22:05 <epsy> heidi would make a horse horny
22:05 <epsy> or a dog..uhm
22:05 <Lucifer> problem is, the girls I've known named heidi would have only made a horse horny
22:05 -!- TaZ [i=981e3aaa@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4528ce5a6f5a2274] has joined #armagetron
22:06 <TaZ> Kk back
22:06 <epsy> http://www.todayshithappens.com/20
22:06 <epsy> that's probably heidi speaking
22:06 <TaZ> Why is Lucifer still here?
22:06 <TaZ> LOL at the link
22:06 <epsy> he was not Banned From The Internet yet
22:07 <TaZ> LOL!
22:07 <Lucifer> man, I am the internet
22:07 <Lucifer> because, see, it's like this
22:07 <Lucifer> the internet is for porn
22:07 <Lucifer> porn is a sin
22:07 <epsy> no, you are the internet
22:07 <Lucifer> I AM THE KING OF SIN!
22:07 <Lucifer> therefore, I am the internet
22:07 <Lucifer> my logic is impeccable
22:07 <Lucifer> here, sign here to say you agree
22:08 <epsy> does the sandcastle have optic fiber?
22:08  * Lucifer holds up a petition
22:08 <Lucifer> it did, before that damn toddler tore it down
22:09 <Lucifer> well, I have to admit, I'm going to work, and I'm disappointed that librarian isn't at my campus anymore
22:09 <Lucifer> bbl
22:09 <epsy> bb
22:09 <TaZ> haha
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22:33 <P4> http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/ocz_peripherals/nia-neural_impulse_actuator ← imagine playing armagetron using this controller :)
22:34 <P4> i think it would be very hard
22:38 <TaZ> haha cool
22:41 <TaZ> Anyone still here?
22:41 <ct|kyle> looks like 37 people here
22:41 <TaZ> No one ever talks though
22:42 <TaZ> Except Monkey
22:42 <TaZ> And maybe that *** Lucifer(/me hopes he doesn't read that)
22:45 <ivantis> i talks though
22:45 <TaZ> hey ivantis
22:45 <noob_saibot> I talk you mook
22:46 <TaZ> Saibottt
22:46 <noob_saibot> wassupp
22:46 <TaZ> Nothing much man, what about you?
22:46 <noob_saibot> nmmm chillen playing guitar hehe
22:46 <TaZ> cool cool
22:47 <noob_saibot> kinda weird since i like hiphop mostly
22:47 <TaZ> nah
22:47 <TaZ> I play guitar too :D
22:47 <noob_saibot> really nicee thats whatsup
22:47 <noob_saibot> i used to take lessons i havent played in a long ass time so i picked it up again today lol just reading tab
22:48 <TaZ> Haha, same as me
22:48 <ivantis> how the hell does that nia thing work?
22:48 <TaZ> I've been so busy with school, I haven't had that much time to pick it up again
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22:48 <noob_saibot> yea
22:49 <noob_saibot> school sucks lol
22:49 <TaZ> Yea I know xD
22:49  * TaZ is ready for break
22:49 <TaZ> .California noob_saibot
22:49 <tronner> noob_saibot is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
22:50 <noob_saibot> Lol
22:50 <noob_saibot> what is with California
22:50 <TaZ> It''s just known to cause all sorts of cancer
22:51 <noob_saibot> California? lol what are yo utalking about
22:52 <TaZ> .California Oranges
22:52 <tronner> Oranges is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
22:52 <TaZ> See?
22:52 <noob_saibot> good thing when i was in LA i didnt eat oranges
22:53 <TaZ> Haha
22:53 <noob_saibot> i just tried eating poo-tang pie the whole time
22:53 <TaZ> .California New York Pizza
22:53 <tronner> New York Pizza is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
22:53 <StickyNo1b> what is with california, supposedly liberal then elects the Terminator and bans bay maridge
22:53 <TaZ> ahaha
22:53 <StickyNo1b> *gay
22:54 <Monkey_arma> noob_saibot, TaZ and StickyNo1b !!
22:54 <noob_saibot> even liberals dont support gay marriage
22:54 <noob_saibot> hey monkey
22:54 <TaZ> idk, Cali is weird
22:54 <TaZ> Monkey!!
22:54 <Monkey_arma> sai have you not implemented plan B? !
22:54 <noob_saibot> lol what do you mean
22:54 -!- CruZ [n=cruzer@p57AF42E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit []
22:54 <Monkey_arma> about your team
22:55 <noob_saibot> lol did you see my post?
22:55 <Monkey_arma> ye
22:55 <noob_saibot> i said we should just join teams if they dont show
22:55 <Monkey_arma> er
22:55 <Monkey_arma> not that post
22:55 <Monkey_arma> and thats not good sai
22:55 <TaZ> We have a plan B?
22:55  * Monkey_arma checks
22:56 <Monkey_arma> im just reading ari's post WTF
22:56 <noob_saibot> where did he post?
22:56 <TaZ> where @?
22:56 <Monkey_arma> omg im gonna reply harsh to that one
22:56 <Monkey_arma> on ID forums
22:56 <noob_saibot> under what fort?
22:57 <noob_saibot> can you link me to thread
22:57 <Monkey_arma> under:  Practicing for Fort Ladle Failure
22:58 <TaZ> linkj?
23:00 <TaZ> ohhh
23:02 <noob_saibot> i got it
23:04 <TaZ> Monkey must be typing something long
23:04 <Monkey_arma> and sai, you need to stop being soft and kick fucking arse
23:04 <Monkey_arma> TaZ i am :P
23:04 <TaZ> LOL!
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23:07 <noob_saibot> Lol
23:08 <noob_saibot> i replied
23:08 <Monkey_arma> omg im livid
23:08 <Monkey_arma> and im still writing
23:08 <noob_saibot> yea he kinda called you out
23:08 <noob_saibot> but keep it peaceful
23:08 <noob_saibot> :-P
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23:12 <ivantis> what is the perl function to list files in a directory?
23:12 <ivantis> whoops
23:12 <ivantis> wrong channel
23:13 <madmax> RTFM
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23:17 <TaZ> hahaha
23:17 <TaZ> GO all out Monkey
23:17 <Monkey_arma> i am
23:17 <Monkey_arma> and im still writing
23:18 <TaZ> madmax
23:18 <TaZ> I think you need to calm down son.
23:19 <akira_arma> ....
23:19 <madmax> …son!?
23:19  * madmax considers registering on the ID forums to view monkey's post
23:20 <Monkey_arma> !
23:20 <Monkey_arma> and im still writing
23:20 <TaZ> :o
23:20 <Monkey_arma> don't get phished this time tho max
23:20 <TaZ> lol
23:20 <madmax> I was actually thinking if I could use someone's pass there
23:22 <TaZ> Like who?
23:25 <TaZ> God, he is still typing...
23:26 <madmax> perhaps like one of those logins who also got phished?
23:26 <TaZ> Did you fall for CraZy's phishing site?
23:27 <madmax> thought that was obvious from monkey's recurring comment
23:27 <TaZ> Well, I was just confirming if it was CraZy's website.  No need to get pissy son.
23:28 <TaZ> I'm not the one who fell for a phishing website
23:28 <TaZ> :)
23:28 <madmax> condescending huh? :)
23:28 <ct|kyle> ya epsy was the one :P
23:29 <madmax> do I even "know" you TaZ?
23:30 <TaZ> Well I think we know each other now, eh?
23:30 <TaZ> )
23:30 <TaZ> :)
23:30 <TaZ> Let me introduce myself
23:30 <madmax> well yeah, I guess you're my dad now
23:30 <TaZ> I am TaZ
23:31 <madmax> nice meeting you
23:31 <TaZ> Nice to meet you too.
23:31 <akira_arma> ...
23:33 <ct|kyle> who is TaZ
23:35 <noob_saibot> MOnkey finish writing
23:37 <Monkey_arma> not far off now...
23:40 <Monkey_arma> noob_saibot ive had to put some blame on you too
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23:45 <TaZ> :o
23:46 <Monkey_arma> dont the ID forums let you quote?
23:46 <Monkey_arma> hm ok sorted
23:53 <Monkey_arma> ok all posted
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23:53 <Monkey_arma> bbl
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