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Log from 2008-11-23:
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02:31 <AshitakA> msg/ nicksev
02:32 <AshitakA> msg nickserv
02:41 <Lucifer> msg nickserv identify youramutherfucker
02:41 <Lucifer> er, oops
02:42 <AshitakA> hi luci
02:42 <luke-jr> Lucifer: liar
02:46 <AshitakA> theres a bad ass motherfucker on mtv game awards
02:47 <AshitakA>  but nice game
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06:34 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
06:34 <Lucifer> oh crap, I forgot to get sewing pins :(
06:34  * Lucifer tried to get all the sundry non-food stuff he needs tonight and didn't make a list
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09:41 <Lucifer> heh, I just created an account called Girl Chasing :)
09:42  * Lucifer remembers why he hasn't fooled with his accounts in awhile like he should be
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09:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I just created an account called Girl Chasing :)
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10:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh
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10:07  * Lucifer just stumbled across the card for the assistant librarian that made a pass at him a year ago
10:16 <Lucifer> may as well, I just emailed her
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16:02 <K-Yo> guru3, is the place for servers on aa forums only for servers without forums, or any? (http://forums.armagetronad.net/index.php?c=5)
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16:04 <guru3> just the general section really
16:07 <epsy> ??
16:08 <epsy> guru3, K-Yo asked if the place was _reserved_ for servers that have their own forums or not
16:08 <epsy> that doesn't have*
16:09 <guru3> oh for any i guess
16:09 <guru3> should be doing like 4 things at once
16:11 <K-Yo> heh
16:11 <K-Yo> guru3, could we (ct) get a place where players send their comments/requirements ?
16:11 <epsy> and where they can ignore it, too >.<
16:12 <K-Yo> ;)
16:12 <guru3> i suppose
16:12 <guru3> pm me details
16:12 <K-Yo> guru3, roger
16:12 <K-Yo> thx
16:12 <epsy> guru3, how's your TST server going btw?
16:13 <guru3> haven't set it up yet
16:13 <epsy> ok
16:13 <guru3> need a block of time to do it in
16:13 <guru3> probably today or tomorrow
16:14 <K-Yo> epsy, btw, what about ignoring requirements.comments, still about café clone? I told you, I have the exact config wrtl sent me...
16:14 <epsy> about the mess that's going on with colors on ctos
16:24 <K-Yo> ah
16:24 <K-Yo> that is P4's to chose
16:25 <K-Yo> and I think he refused, finding it funnier
16:25 <K-Yo> :P
16:25 <epsy> and that he would make colors random yeah
16:25 <epsy> way of abusing being the only euro sumo server
16:25 <K-Yo> actually no
16:25 <K-Yo> we have another sumo server
16:25 <K-Yo> with the tst settings
16:26 <K-Yo> and it's almost never full...
16:26 <epsy> so one server with 8 players max
16:26 <K-Yo> yep
16:26 <epsy> and one with more players but shit settings
16:26 <K-Yo> and there is the omg server
16:26 <epsy> neat
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16:27 <K-Yo> still, we can't please everyone, some don't like the colors that way, but some prefer... so we chose what we like more ^^
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19:03 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/zthread-aa
19:03 <epsy> I'll soon push branches etc
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19:38 <TaZ> Good afternoon everyone!
19:40 <KeY_3113> hi TaZ
19:40 -!- KeY_3113 is now known as K-Yo
19:40 <K-Yo> hi TaZ
19:48 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r911 disable pthread...
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19:53 <noob_saibot> monkey can you hear me?
19:54 <noob_saibot> can you hear me now monkey?
19:55 <TaZ> :D
19:56 <TaZ> Hi KeY_3113 and K-Yo
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19:56 <noob_saibot> where are we meeting
19:57 <noob_saibot> i dont see a server
19:58 <noob_saibot> ok its up now
19:59 <Monkey_arma> hey
19:59 <Monkey_arma> ye im here
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20:02 <epsy> can it fucking stop appending "..." to my commits...
20:09 <teabot> zthraacommits: [trunk-main] r2 edited AUTHOR notes || [trunk-main] r1 Initial Import
20:10 <Monkey_arma> TaZ u coming? its gone 7pm
20:16 <epsy> ah right
20:16 <epsy> getting unicode working just having in / out tweaked won't be that easy
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20:34 <epsy> fucking bunny >:(
20:38 <epsy> I start to think the bug is upstream :|
20:45 <P4> i've set the color_bug 0, what else, epsy?
20:45 <epsy> the names
20:47 <ct|kyle> epsy: if you need a backup for the TST, we will have ours up
20:48 <P4> the names?
20:48 <P4> you mean to filter color strings?
20:48 <epsy> to filter coor in names
20:49 <noob_saibot> Monkey...
20:50 <P4> epsy: why is it buggy? the player color is still the primary one, isn't it?
20:50 <epsy> not on the score table
20:50 <epsy> not on top of players, either
20:51 <P4> you got a team name in the score table :)
20:51 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, the server is closed, not everyone can join...
20:51 <epsy> P4, yeah, same applies for overflow bug
20:51 <P4> and the players have wall color too :P
20:51 <P4> overflow bug should be disabled
20:52 <epsy> you can see the player's team in the score table
20:52 <epsy> so why turn off overflow bug?
20:53 <Monkey_arma> G5 can we use your server for match please?
20:53 <G5> Monkey_arma: sure
20:54 <noob_saibot> we are going back to Pinks server
20:55 <Monkey_arma> noob no we are using g5's
20:55 <Monkey_arma> where i am admin
20:55 <Monkey_arma> noob_saibot
20:55 <noob_saibot> come to pinks everyone is there and tell them
20:55 <P4> epsy: you asked that
20:57 <epsy> tell me, what makes random color in names different than random colors as color?
20:59 <luke-jr_> epsy: what was the fix?
21:00 <Monkey_arma> G5 its fucked
21:00 <Monkey_arma> i cant login
21:00 <G5> Hä?
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21:02 <G5> Monkey_arma: What is the problem? You forum login doesnt work or your are not admin?
21:03 <Monkey_arma> i cant do any auth on your server
21:03 <Monkey_arma> only yours
21:03 <Monkey_arma> i can on others
21:03 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, let me know if u need a server ;) i'm on ladle 1
21:04 <G5> Monkey_arma: u try again so I can the console messages?
21:04 <ct|kyle> I probably should just put ladle 2 up
21:06 <Monkey_arma> K-Yo yes please
21:06 <Monkey_arma> is it setup properly ?
21:06 <Monkey_arma> please say yes b4 i come
21:06 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: ladle 2 should be up now
21:06 <ct|kyle> .si ladle 2
21:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ladle 2” at the moment, sorry.
21:06 <Monkey_arma> please kyle and kyo agree
21:06 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, agree to what? the proper setup?
21:07 <Monkey_arma> K-Yo i listen to ONLY u
21:07 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, i'll tell you, I'll check 1st
21:07 <Monkey_arma> tell me what server
21:07 <ct|kyle> .si tress 2
21:07 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tress 2” at the moment, sorry.
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21:08 <K-Yo> .dns crazy-tronners.com
21:08 <tronner> K-Yo:
21:09 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, ladle fortress 2
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21:09 <Monkey_arma> are u sure??
21:09 <Monkey_arma> 100% sure?
21:09 <Monkey_arma> then i will go
21:09 <Monkey_arma> please confirm
21:09 <K-Yo> I confirm
21:09 <K-Yo> i'm in
21:09 <K-Yo> and authed
21:10 <K-Yo> and max_clients is 32
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21:12 <Monkey_arma> k thx
21:19 <G5> epsy: Are you there? Got a minute?
21:20 <epsy> G5, yeah?
21:21 <G5> epsy: could u plz go to old europe fortress and try to login?
21:22 <epsy> mismatch
21:23 <epsy> ah, I see, monkey's being cooperative ;)
21:23 <G5> [0] Password request sent to user 1, username "epsy", method md5, message "Login with Authority xclan.armagetron.co.uk/member".
21:23 <G5> [1] Login failed, reason: Server adress mismatch, (sent by client) != *.*.*.*:* (our address). Pharming suspected. If  you are connecting from the LAN and get this error, either set "TRUST_LAN" on the server (only if your LAN can be fully trusted, of course) or use "SERVER_IP" to make the local IP known to the server.
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21:24 <epsy> crash
21:24 <G5> I restarted the server. Plz try again
21:25 <epsy> luke-jr_, workaround; commented it out from configure.ac
21:26 <epsy> same thing
21:26 <G5> same error
21:26 <luke-jr_> epsy: bug should be left open then, not Fix Committed, since it's not really fixed.
21:26 <epsy> hm
21:26 <epsy> the bug's not effective, though
21:26 <G5> It seems there is a problem with my servers getting a new IP address every night ...
21:27 <epsy> I think I had the same problem at another server
21:27 <epsy> for now, ..
21:27 <epsy> argh
21:32 <G5> I dont use SERVER_IP ... I use SERVER_DNS
21:33 <G5> epsy: And another interesting point: I can login ... but noone else
21:33 <epsy> is hte server on your LAN?
21:33 <G5> sure ... it is the same machine
21:33 <epsy> special case
21:34 <epsy> handled by TRUST_LAN
21:35 <G5> But the address mismatch is between my server the authority, isnt it?
21:35 <epsy> no
21:36 <epsy> between client and server
21:37 <G5> But it worked before. Our was there a change with the 899 release?
21:37 <epsy> *revision
21:37 <G5> k
21:37 <epsy> not any I know of
21:47 <G5> epsy: ok, I have no idea what to do with the problem. But it may be a problem with the upcoming TST ...
21:47 <epsy> checking
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22:24 <K-Yo> G5, for this problem, setting SERVER_IP usually works...
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22:26 <G5> K-Yo: setting it to WHAT? I dont have a fixed IP address
22:26 <K-Yo> ah
22:26 <K-Yo> hmmm
22:26 <K-Yo>
22:26 <K-Yo> xD
22:27 <K-Yo> 1*
22:27 <G5> hmmm ... i can try ...
22:27 <K-Yo> haha
22:29 <G5> K-Yo: got a moment? can u try now (old europe fortress) ... currently it is SERVER_IP ANY
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22:33 <K-Yo> ok
22:35 <K-Yo> G5, failed :(
22:35 <luke-jr_> G5: try SERVER_IP ALL
22:35 <K-Yo> .cfg2 server_ip
22:35 <tronner> K-Yo: SERVER_IP: IP the server listens on
22:35 <luke-jr_> heck, I think SERVER_IP ALL makes TRUST_LAN useless
22:36 <G5> k, done and up again
22:37 <G5> next try ...
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22:38 <G5> SERVER_IP g5.game-host.org ANY
22:39 <epsy> no, the server will either get it's IP (sn_myAddress) from the masters or from SERVER_IP
22:39 <K-Yo> G5, still not
22:39 <epsy> it is compared character for character to the IP sent by the client
22:39 <K-Yo> .dns g5.game-host.org
22:39 <tronner> K-Yo:
22:39 <epsy> so if one one side you have *.*.*.* and on the other, it won't work
22:39 <K-Yo> .dns
22:39 <tronner> K-Yo: p57962B68.dip.t-dialin.net
22:40 <G5> last try ... SERVER_IP
22:40 <epsy> local addresses won't work at all
22:40 <epsy> except for your local network
22:40 <G5> That I expect ...
22:41 <epsy> (for LANs that would pose no problem, though)
22:41 <epsy> one thing to do would be to track the values of sn_myAddress
22:41 <G5> But the correct way should be setting SERVER_DNS and no SERVER_IP, shouldnt it? (I that way it worked before.) U tried it, epsy. I didnt change a thing but server rev.
22:41 <epsy> which is what I will do tomorrow
22:42 <epsy> yeah, SERVER_DNS should be implemented, but SERVER_IP should be kept as well
22:44 <K-Yo> .dns p57962B68.dip.t-dialin.net
22:44 <tronner> K-Yo:
22:44  * luke-jr_ burps.
22:44 <G5> K-Yo: tomorrow it will be a different IP and DNS name ...
22:45 <G5> K-Yo: g5.game-host.org is DynDNS
22:45 <K-Yo> :)
22:47 <G5> Last test: Someone pls try NOW ...
22:47 <luke-jr_> NO
22:47 <luke-jr_> F U
22:48 <epsy> sn_myAddress still at it's default
22:48 <epsy> what did you do?
22:48 <G5> epsy: thx. So it is not the rev. I restored the old rev ...
22:48 -!- Liza [n=Liza@p5B25E1F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
22:50 <G5> you see me puzzled ...
22:51 <epsy> meh
22:51 <epsy> r911 does not compile
22:54 <G5> So, did the master servers change? Something must have been changed ... it worked before. I have lots of witnesses ...
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