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Log from 2008-10-05:
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00:01 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-http-auth-server-work] r5 revamped example config and error messages...
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00:25 <ct|kyle> epsy: ??
00:26 <epsy> ct|kyle, you can has cookie once you understand what I was talking about :)
00:26 <ct|kyle> epsy: i've been gona all day
00:26 <ct|kyle> gone*
00:27 <epsy> the context was not given earlier today
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00:30 <corewar> ahoy
00:31 <epsy> Indeed!
00:32 <epsy> Hi!
00:35 <corewar> i have a question related to controlling. When i drive to a wall and turn, trying to be nearer to the wall then my opponent, its always the opponent, who gets nearer to the wall... how does that work?
00:36 <corewar> i tried to wait a little before turning, that seems not to  be it
00:39 <hoop> the opponent is using more rubber than you
00:40 <hoop> before turning
00:40 <hoop> ie: you're not waiting enough
00:41 <corewar> so its - driving straigt in to the wall and wait before turning, risking to wait too long?
00:41 <corewar> ic
00:41 <hoop> exactly
00:41 <corewar> will try to do better
00:41 <corewar> it really looked like there was more behind it, becaus i was always the looser in such situations *g*
00:41 <corewar> this is my 2nd armagetron day
00:43 <hoop> are you playing high rubber?
00:44 <corewar> not my server... 15 rubber here
00:44 <hoop> that's quite high :P
00:44 <corewar> i want to setup a first person server tonight
00:44 <hoop> cool
00:45 <corewar> but the game is soo addictive... i dont have time... must... not... die...
00:45 <hoop> hehe i know
00:47 <hoop> what's the server called?
00:47 <corewar> it WILL BE called somewhat with corewar in it
00:47 <corewar> still only have the client installed
00:47 <corewar> but i quit right now
00:47 <corewar> heheh
00:48 <corewar> there were 2 people left, having a real cool fight... nice to watch, and time to leave *g*
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00:50 <madmax> it's good to have a server like that. don't think I ever saw a first person one full time :-D
00:50 <corewar> i would like to start playing, tweakgin the game rules while playing. Can i somewoe let the server keep those settings, or must i manually copy the values to the conf file?
00:50 <corewar> it wont be full time, i fear, only have 30K upstream, so there will be breaks
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00:51 <corewar> but i might know a friend, who can let it run
00:51 <corewar> hes got a slightly faster conn
00:51 <corewar> som 10 times more
00:51 <corewar> i hosted a game with 1st person yesterday... some players kept saying it was gay... arr...
00:52 <corewar> i guess, they didnt like to loose
00:52 <corewar> i didnt see a command to reload config file... must the server be closed and restarted for new rules coming from file?
00:57 <madmax> everytime.cfg is processed every round
00:58 <corewar> aaah
00:58 <corewar> very good
00:58 <madmax> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Configuration_Files
00:59 <corewar> i've already made a list of important settings for first person
01:01 <noob13> O_o
01:01 <noob13> ;D
01:01 <noob13> i need to pass out.
01:01 <noob13> gn
01:01 <corewar> i have a little problem with my firewall maybe... i couldnt connect with the second pc, whil i was hosting a game yesterday... i fear, i cant access my external interface from the LAN side... iptables... anyone here willing to help me?
01:02 <luke-jr_> remove the firewall
01:02 <corewar> impossible
01:02 <luke-jr_> why?
01:02 <corewar> well
01:02 <corewar> i could disable it, but i wont
01:03 <corewar> i have samba shares on that machine and a "neighbour" keeps infecting my files with a certain virus, if i open it to the outside
01:03 <luke-jr_> so don't be an idiot and run samba :þ
01:03 <luke-jr_> at least not without passwords
01:04 <corewar> youre right... i should reconsider that really
01:05 <corewar> gah... i am so lazy... but for now i can shutdown the vulnerable stuff
01:06 <corewar> the idea of using passwords didnt come to my brain, somehow.. man, i can be stupid sometimms
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01:07 <Monkey_arma> madmax G5 there will be a mac user who is experiencing really bad performance and he is using latest 0.3 alpha with lowest settings. He has a new and fast mac. Help would be nice.
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01:07 <madmax> not running a universal binary?
01:07 <luke-jr_> Monkey_arma: stop using 0.3
01:07 <Flex> luke-jr_ why?
01:08 <luke-jr_> Flex: it's not really maintained
01:08 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr_ im not
01:08 <Flex> so?
01:08 <epsy> fail
01:08 <G5> I use OLD .3 ... had "not so good performance" with never one
01:08 <Monkey_arma> well the alpha he is using with low details and even display lists on
01:08  * epsy pranks G5 to try the "about" menu entry
01:09 <Flex> is there any critical security issues with 0.3.0?
01:09 <corewar> same here... on my ubuntu with nvidia drivers i cant go 1024x760
01:09 <epsy> bmd5
01:09 <corewar> too slow, 1.2GHz machine
01:09 <G5> There is no "About" ...
01:09 <epsy> that's about it, i think
01:09 <epsy> G5, ingame menu
01:09 <sithy> i'm using 0.3 on mac, and although it's not slow it is kinda buggy
01:09 <Flex> what do you mean bmd5?
01:09 <epsy> the hash method, for authentication
01:10 <Flex> it can be sniffed? it's sent/rec unencripted?
01:10 <epsy> well, anything can be sniffed..
01:10 <epsy> i don't know about recording
01:11 <G5> epsy: In-game menu has (translated): police, player config, select team, system config, exit, abort
01:11 <epsy> and of course it's not sent unencrypted
01:11 <epsy> abort ?
01:11 <G5> abort = exit server
01:11 <G5> sno
01:11 <G5> n
01:11 <G5> no
01:11 <luke-jr_> stfu
01:11 <sithy> lol
01:12 <G5> abort = back to game
01:13 <madmax> were you running on an intel on the newer .3?
01:14 <madmax> some time ago I saw someone having bad performance because of using a PPC version under rosetta
01:15 <epsy> muuuh
01:15 <Flex> epsy, is there anything else, and what exactly is the problem about it?
01:15 <madmax> muuuh?
01:15 <G5> madmax: talking to me? I always tried native versions ...
01:15 <Flex> luke-jr told me i was doomed!
01:15 <G5> cd ..
01:16 <G5> oops
01:16 <epsy> Flex, authorities can't set a prefix/suffix with it
01:16 <sithy> ignorant question: what's the bestest/stablest version atm?
01:17 <epsy> ?
01:17 <Flex> i think, what's on the front page
01:17 <G5> I tried "strings" command on the binary ... there is no version number but 0.3
01:17 <G5> (Or it is not a string.)
01:17 <sithy> but 0.2.8 doesn't support the minimap right?
01:17 <epsy> it doesn't
01:18 <luke-jr_>
01:18 <epsy> G5, there's one with a date
01:18 <sithy> oh well
01:18 <epsy> G5, except if you use a packaged version
01:18 <G5> epsy: I d/l the binary, yes. didnt build it myself ...
01:19 <G5> -rwxr-xr-x  1 xxxxx  staff  8320072  3 Jul  2006 Armagetron Advanced
01:19 <G5> Really old, I say ...
01:22 <madmax> 'Armagetron\ Advanced.app/Contents/MacOS/Armagetron\ Advanced --version'?
01:22 <G5> This is Armagetron Advanced version 0.3.0.
01:22 <epsy> that's the thing from 2006
01:22 <madmax> heh
01:23 <G5> Where can I get latest 0.3 pre-build for Mac OS X (Intel or Fat)?
01:23 <epsy> durka's builds i think
01:24 <corewar> i've heard there is a new client allowing a mini map. I want to disallow that map. Pls tell me the setting
01:24 <epsy> corewar, what's the version of the server?
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01:26 <epsy> corewar, 0.3.something ( or trunk ) or 0.2.8.something ?
01:26 <corewar> i am not sure... downloaded yesterday, i think 0.2.8.. is there a console command to look for the server version?
01:26 <G5> Oops ... I just found out what "Durka" means :)
01:26 <epsy> well, simpliest is to call arma with --version
01:26 <epsy> G5, LOL!
01:26 <luke-jr_> X.org is not Free software ☹
01:27 <epsy> not anymore?
01:27 <luke-jr_> not ever
01:27 <luke-jr_> as a whole
01:27 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr_ ?
01:27 <epsy> MIT was rejected as a free software license?
01:27 <luke-jr_> a month ago, GLX was non-Free
01:27 <luke-jr_> epsy: only most of X.org is MIT-like
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01:27 <luke-jr_> even today, many X.org included fonts are non-Free
01:27 <luke-jr_> and small parts are ambiguous
01:27 <epsy> GLX is not part of X.org, it's part of Mesa..isn't ut?
01:27 <luke-jr_> like setxkbmap
01:27 <corewar> 0.2.8
01:28 <luke-jr_> epsy: parts of GLX are X.org
01:28 <corewar> .2.1
01:28 <epsy> corewar, the setting does not exist in that version
01:28 <epsy> luke-jr_, heh, sounds like a nightmare to maintain
01:29 <corewar> so players with 0.3 clients can connect but not use the minimap , or they cant connect? how does it work?
01:29 <luke-jr_> Python 2.6 changed to a non-Free license BTW
01:29 <uffie> hey evry1, hey monkey
01:29 <Monkey_arma> hey uffie
01:29 <Monkey_arma> ok uffie, madmax and g5 and some others are mac users
01:30 <epsy> python socks anyway :<
01:30 <Monkey_arma> madmax g5 can you help uffie please with his low performance issues
01:30 <uffie> cool. just rebuilding database now so will se wat goes on...
01:30 <G5> uffie: where did u get ur Armagetron?
01:31 <uffie> pretty sure form beta.arma.... but throwing out the old and starting fresh now. just grab...let me check again
01:31 <uffie> armagetronad-0.3.0.macosx.dmg
01:31 <luke-jr_> hint: this also means Python 2.6 is GPL-incompatible, and Arma-incompatible
01:32 <epsy> -> module!
01:32 <luke-jr_> epsy: modules don't change anything
01:33 <epsy> that depends on the license they use
01:33 <luke-jr_> GPL doesn't care if it's a module or static
01:33 <luke-jr_> Arma is GPL
01:34 <epsy> if it includes something like the GPL "You need to include stuff so that it works", then whoever publishes such a module is screwed
01:34 <epsy> python is not needed to run arma :)
01:36 <teabot> xclanaarepo: Uploaded Durka's ladle16.cfg config
01:37 <corewar> aahh... server running
01:37 <luke-jr_> epsy: the piece tying them together would be illegal tho, unless it worked with Python 2.5 too
01:37 <corewar> now the tweaking begins
01:39 <G5> uffie, madmax, epsy: The version I use is http://beta.armagetronad.net/fetch.php/0.3%252F0.3.0%252Farmagetronad-0.3.0.macosx.dmg?source=sf_aa&date=2006-07-11
01:39 <G5> And Im very happy with it.
01:39 <G5> And I have to go to bed now ... sorry
01:39 <uffie> ty! nite
01:39 <epsy> luke-jr_, IF python's license has the same policy than the GPL, THEN yes
01:40 <luke-jr_> epsy: nope, only one needs that policy
01:40 <epsy> otherwise there's no problem, as long as the module is published using a license compatible with pyton's
01:40 <luke-jr_> the module cannot be published with a license compatible with Python's without violating GPL's
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01:40 <epsy> [ and then, separated from arma ]
01:41 <luke-jr_> if it ties into arma, it isn't separate
01:41 <Monkey_arma> uffie he uses an old version with low fps i think
01:41 <luke-jr_> Arma is GPL, not GPL-with-exceptions-for-tie-ins
01:41 <epsy> I don't think so..
01:42 <uffie> Monkey, I am bringing down my screen size and res too. See if it makes a dif.
01:42 <Monkey_arma> yes
01:42 <epsy> what we [would] distribute is a product that has support for modules
01:42 <epsy> so, anyway, we're safe
01:42 <epsy> hrm, but the module needs to be GPL..argh
01:43 <epsy> gaddamn GPL
01:43 <epsy> good night
01:43 <luke-jr_> epsy: ☺
01:44 <luke-jr_> I'm happy with the GPL in that sens
01:44 <luke-jr_> sense*
01:44 <luke-jr_> just unhappy with its compatibility to other Free licenses
01:44 <epsy> i seriousely prefer MIT/BSD over GPL
01:44 <luke-jr_> both have their victims
01:44 <epsy> especially because it's such a pain for people to use it then
01:45 <epsy> imo, i do my stuff, publish it, in the hope it serves to someone
01:45 <luke-jr_> I bet Arma would have proprietary forks if it was MIT/BSD
01:46 <epsy> as long as one doesn't just steal my work on his account, i don't care about what he's doing
01:46 <epsy> luke-jr_, oh, you know, arma has far less chances of gettin gforks than other games
01:47 <corewar> the conf seems not to be read on every new round
01:47 <epsy> see tremulous, for example, the project is not going well IMO, but devs around it are free-minded
01:47 <corewar> only does on server restart
01:47 <epsy> corewar, everytime.cfg
01:47 <corewar> thx
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01:47 <epsy> so a proprietary fork wouldn't happen around it
01:48 <epsy> around arma, nobody cares about freeness *cough*, but nobody feels the need to fork it, either
01:48 <uffie> Settings question... LAG_O_Meter settings.. Does this affect playing all servers or just local hosted?
01:48 <epsy> uffie, that's just on your end, where ever it is
01:48 <uffie> ta
01:49 <corewar> i should have that file accordingly to the doc
01:49 <corewar> but i havent
01:49 <corewar> windows version
01:49 <epsy> create it
01:50 <corewar> yay... thanks
01:51 <corewar> another question: i tried to set no teams, but all i managed to achieve is putting every player in his own team
01:51 <epsy> yup
01:51 <corewar> is this the way it ought to be done?
01:51 <epsy> that's it
01:51 <corewar> alright
01:52 <epsy> #cfg team_name
01:52 <armabot> epsy: ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_COLOR: Allow a team to be named after a color (default: 1) || ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_LEADER: Set to 1 to allow team leader to set a team, 0 otherwise. (default: 0) || ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_PLAYER: Allow a team to be named after the leading player (default: 1)
01:52 <epsy> also, you might want to have ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_COLOR set to 0, so teams aren't named with colors, and ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_PLAYER, so that it's made using the player's name
01:53 <epsy> corewar, that's it? :)
01:53 <corewar> sounds like it
01:54 <epsy> right, have fun, i'll get some sleep
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02:04 <madmax> #seen lizz
02:04 <armabot> madmax: lizz was last seen in #armagetron 15 weeks, 3 days, 10 hours, 47 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <Lizz> Hi Monkey
02:06 <Corn> .tea
02:06 <tronner> Corn: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (0/32):
02:08 <madmax> #ls alpha
02:08 <armabot> madmax: ceti alpha has last been seen on Swampland Mud Puddle 2 hours 48 minutes ago.
02:08 <madmax> #ls n9::alpha
02:09 <armabot> madmax: timed out
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02:12 <madmax> are you the real Luck? :o
02:12 <luck> I am
02:12 <uffie> monkey, so u know I loaded 0.3.0 (which is also the on G5 suggested - not sure how I ever got that other version?) i am getting 100fps+ on that server, however the player count is a bit lower. Screen size didn't affect anything, i am running at 1920px. I turned of infinity in detail settings. Also a rebuild on my disk. Doesn't improve my ability in fortress :_
02:12 <corewar> i get 13 fps with everything turned off at 1024 - if i remember right, there is some opengl missing?
02:12 <luck> Just trying out armegatron but its not working on windows
02:12 <luck> program starts but the fonts do not display
02:12 <luck> I get garbage in their place
02:13 <luck> and therefore cant navigate the menus
02:13 <madmax> uffie: just as curiosity, did you grab the powerpc version earlier instead of the universal?
02:14 <uffie> maybe on the first time round, but pretty sure it wasn't.... maybe you can tell me by version name/num let me check...
02:14 <madmax> luck: windows vista?
02:14 <luck> xp
02:15 <luck> relatively fresh install too
02:15 <madmax> uffie: 'file Armagetron\ Advanced.app/Contents/MacOS/Armagetron\ Advanced' on the terminal
02:17 <madmax> luck: tried installing drivers and such? other games work fine? are you using the version from the main site?
02:18 <luck> other games work fine and yeah Im using the version from the site
02:19 <luck> problem solved
02:19 <luck> thanks
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02:19 <corewar> same here: other games work fine, but armagetron is slow... i am going to try installing some openGL... the FAQ didnt tell me about it, but i rememered, it helped some long time ago... if it helps, i will add the info to the FAQ
02:20 <corewar> notebook nvidia sucks
02:21 <Monkey_arma> uffie do you know what nvidia chipset you have?
02:21 <uffie> Checking...
02:21 <Monkey_arma> and have you got the latest drivers for it?
02:22 <uffie> GeForce 8600M GT 512mb - I usually leave the drivers to mac os update so it doesn't conflict with my pro and work apps.
02:23 <uffie> Sucking at terminal for some reason. But the Arma version for my old app was Version 0.3_alpha7095
02:25 <Monkey_arma> guru3: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18734&highlight=&sid=769aa33bb071ad472ed49ffad0c25f64
02:28 <uffie> This is something for me personally, but I would love to get Arma to work with growl notifications, so I know when a round is over and know it is time to toggle back in. know anyone who has got it working?
02:29 <uffie> p.s. 180fps on yel sub, tis is double my usual :)
02:30 <madmax> nemostultae (the one handling mac devel) had a 0.2.8 version with that
02:30 <madmax> though I think it didn't get further updates…
02:31 <madmax> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=3035
02:32 <uffie> cool!
02:32 <uffie>  I'll read into it and see what I can put together later tomorrow.
02:44 <Monkey_arma> uffie: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18595&sid=e83f646790b6a5a7852941d0ec7f9716
02:44 <Monkey_arma> read the whole thread
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02:53 <uffie> interesting comment about Infinity on or off.
02:53 <uffie> Will test out both and see if I notice much dif. All my other settings are basically all off and floor and other texture and fx off as mentioned in the tread. Personally I like the block look. haha about the 30fps, i've been living that since I got arma.. does this mean I will get 70% better?
02:53 <corewar> when the game window looses focus, the graphic is not upadated. can i change this?
02:53 <uffie> Im interested in that too
02:54 <hoop> only in version 0.3 (not  sure)
02:54 <Monkey_arma> uffie you should be getting very high fps really
02:55 <Monkey_arma> although your card may be locked at rate of your monitor
02:55 <Monkey_arma> (60 or 75)
02:56 <Monkey_arma> if you can find an option in system setup, display settings, scrreen mode, called vsync
02:56 <Monkey_arma> then enable it
02:57 <uffie> Well since this version install and setup I am getting avg 190 for yel sub with 5 players. usually I get about 60-90. So huge increase. Will be interesting to see when the server is full. but I was getting above 100 on the fort when I was only getting 30 or less. Will test wW now. usually only get 30 there.
02:57 <Monkey_arma> that should keep your graphics smooth and in sync with your graphics chip
02:57 <Monkey_arma> ok good
03:03 <madmax> corewar: System Setup > Display Settings > Screen Mode > Keep Window Active
03:05 <corewar> aaah thanks
03:20 <_Ratchet> er
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03:21 <_Ratchet> my parents been gone for 7 hours now and they aint answering phones
03:24 <corewar> my server keeps telling, that my client would be spamming prior to connect
03:24 <corewar> whats up?
03:25 <corewar> hi _Ratchet
03:25 <_Ratchet> hi
03:25 <corewar> my server isnt listed anymore, and i dont really see a reason...
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03:36 <corewar> what means flood protection, when the regarding client only was retreiving the server list? i did not even connect
03:38 <ivantis2> what client are you using?
03:38 <ivantis2> er, what version i mean
03:39 <corewar>
03:39 <ivantis2> i had that problem with Armagetron original a while ago
03:39 <ivantis2> hmm
03:39 <ivantis2> possibly you have a bad ISP and you are unintentionally flooding servers while polling them
03:40 <corewar> unintentionally flooding? lol
03:40 <corewar> erm... if the server says "Flood protection bans 192.168...." does that mean, the client wont show my server in the inernet game list?
03:40 <ivantis2> like when you ping them, your bad ISP sends more than necessary packets
03:40 <ivantis2> idk
03:41 <ivantis2> wait wait wait
03:41 <ivantis2> what server are you connecting to?
03:41 <corewar> none
03:41 <ivantis2> 192.168. something?
03:41 <corewar> i go "internet game"
03:41 <ivantis2> thats weird
03:41 <corewar> and i cand find a pattern... sometimes my server was listed... now it isnt anymore... let me check, maybe its back
03:42 <ivantis2> wait wait wait again
03:42 <ivantis2> what kind of a router do you have?
03:42 <corewar> my external IP is listed now, but "unreachable" - i didnt change the firewall (linux/iptables)
03:42 <ivantis2> but what kind of a router do you have?
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03:42 <corewar> i was connected about 10 minutes before
03:42 <corewar> LINUX
03:42 <ivantis2> i had a similar problem with a belkin router
03:43 <ivantis2> no
03:43 <ivantis2> not OS
03:43 <corewar> i have not one router in my flat
03:43 <ivantis2> oh
03:43 <ivantis2> hmm
03:43 <corewar> i hav a switch and my linux is router/gateway
03:43 <ivantis2> custom connect to localhost
03:43 <corewar> so i really doubt its the linux.. i will try to restart firewall
03:43 <ivantis2> wait dont do that
03:43 <ivantis2> the next time you see your server in internet game
03:44 <corewar> i see the ip
03:44 <ivantis2> press - a few times to lower its score
03:44 <ivantis2> then you wont be pinging it
03:44 <corewar> aah
03:44 <ivantis2> that solved my problem
03:44 <ivantis2> i host a server from my home too
03:44 <ivantis2> #sd space-lab
03:44 <armabot> ivantis2: SPACE-LAB Shooting!: Players (0/8):
03:44 <corewar> can you look for a game "COREWARS / First Person / TEST...
03:44 <ivantis2> which is empty
03:44 <ivantis2> okay sure
03:44 <corewar> i guess, its a local problem
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03:46 <corewar> okay... i cant ping the external interface anymore... i will look into that now
03:47 <ivantis2> i do not see it
03:47 <corewar> thanks
03:47 <ivantis2> np
03:47 <corewar> but i really didnt touch the server
03:47  * corewar wonders
03:47 <ivantis2> try restarting it
03:47 <ivantis2> then it will reconnect
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03:48 <ivantis2> or
03:48 <ivantis2> ill try to connect
03:48 <ivantis2> what is your IP?
03:48 <corewar> it cant even ping itself
03:48 <corewar>
03:48 <ivantis2> k
03:48 <corewar> its so odd
03:48 <corewar> LOL
03:48 <ivantis2> it doesnt appear to be connecting
03:49 <luke-jr_> #luke-jr-fan-club :o
03:49 <corewar> its online obviously... can ping it from outside... must be iptables
03:49 <ivantis2> luke-jr, no one asked what the most empty channel is
03:50 <luke-jr_> ivantis2: less empty than your channels
03:50 <ivantis2> channel
03:50 <ivantis2> and yeah, less empty
03:51 <ivantis2> #ivantis.net
03:51 <ivantis2> my number of visitors to my site has gone down a lot in the past year
03:51 <ivantis2> it used to be like 15 a day, now its only like 2
03:52 <ivantis2> /msg ivanbot whosyodaddy
03:52 <ivantis2> do that
03:53 <kebomix_> Free Programming ebooks With Direct Links Here http://request-ebooks.blogspot.com/
03:55 <luke-jr_> IRC spam now⁈
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03:56 <corewar_> ping?
03:56 <luke-jr_> …
03:56 <corewar_> thx
03:57 <ivantis2> who is kebomix?
03:58 <ivantis2> probably not a bot
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04:01 <Monkey_arma> kebomix_ i notice all of your those books have been posted by you and claim to be free. I and I think others in here are hearing alarm bells.
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04:01 <Monkey_arma> Can you talk some more about these books...
04:02 <Monkey_arma> I will take that as a no
04:03 <Monkey_arma> guru3: spam on IRC, read above.
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04:21 <ivantis2> hey luke-jr_
04:22 <ivantis2> i see that on your server hosting, you have you have a 10 slot server for $22, but even a slicehost server is less than that
04:22 <ivantis2> are you charging for setup also?
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04:27 <luke-jr_> ivantis2: how do you figure slicehost is less?
04:27 <luke-jr_> oh, slicehost is a VPS host
04:28 <ivantis2> yeah, so you could just rent one of theirs and get a server for less
04:28 <luke-jr_> ivantis2: slicehost is unmanaged
04:28 <ivantis2> what does that mean anyway?
04:28 <luke-jr_> it means if it breaks, you get to keep the pieces
04:28 <ivantis2> huh?
04:29 <luke-jr_> you need to take care of the server
04:29 <ivantis2> physically?
04:29 <luke-jr_> with my hosting, I take care of the server and make sure everything works
04:29 <ivantis2> or software wise?
04:29 <ivantis2> oh i get it
04:29 <luke-jr_> software, security patches, etc
04:29 <ivantis2> so charging for setup, bugs, etc
04:29 <luke-jr_> ivantis2: PM, btw
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04:38 <corewar_> is "talk_to_master 1" a bad idea in everytime.conf?
04:45 <ivantis2> yes
04:45 <ivantis2> and why would that even be neccessary?
04:45 <ivantis2> its only in my settings_dedicated.cfg
04:46 <ct|kyle> no it is just pointless
04:46 <luke-jr_> AND a bad idea
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04:47 <ivantis2> why will servers not let players in while connecting to the master list?
04:47 <luke-jr_> cuz they don't
04:47 <luke-jr_> -.-
04:47 <ivantis2> whatever
04:47 <ivantis2> i am gonna go to bed now
04:48 <ivantis2> #nigth
04:48 <ivantis2> #night
04:48 <armabot> Good night ivantis2!
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04:54 <corewar_> is the port number reported to master?
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04:56 <corewar_> gah i cannot connect to ports outside 4534..4540
04:57 <corewar_> and my client alsways wants to use the same ports
04:57 <zerothis> I have linux. in fullscreen mode armagetron will immediately minimize. switching back to the window makes it minimize again. Unless on constantly move the mouse which keeps the window visible but it is unselected
04:58 <corewar_> maybe game screenresolition bigger than your pc's?
04:59 <corewar_> damn... i give up... i should be able to put my game settings into the clients conf, too, i hope
04:59 <zerothis> 1680x1050, the card can do more, the monitor is 1680x1050. it will display just fine as long as I keep moving the mouse. it does this in all lower resolutions also
05:09 <luke-jr_> corewar_: the ports are determined by the server of course
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05:11 <corewar_> it really seems, one cant use the client AND the server on one machine ... !?
05:12 <corewar_> and i told my client not to use 4534
05:16 <luke-jr_> …
05:17 <luke-jr_> do you have a NAPT?
05:17 <corewar_> if you mean NAT yes
05:17 <luke-jr_> I mean NAPT.
05:17 <corewar_> no, dont know that
05:18 <luke-jr_> NAT means 1:1 IP mappings
05:18 <luke-jr_> MAPT means multiple LAN IPs behind 1 WAN IP
05:18 <corewar_> hmm...
05:18 <luke-jr_> either one could in theory break it
05:18 <luke-jr_> try custom connect to localhost
05:18 <corewar_> local works
05:19 <corewar_> i have a problem with accessing the external interface, i believe. when i use my mobile connection on my notebook, i managed to see my server
05:19 <luke-jr_> sounds like NAPT
05:19 <corewar_> using iptables
05:22 <corewar_> okay... its an iptables problem... just changed policy to ACCEPT and i can connect
05:22 <corewar_> iptables is a bitch
05:23 <luke-jr_> or you just don't know how to use it
05:23 <luke-jr_> and have no real need to
05:23 <corewar_> well... thats it of course... i have a basic idea how it works
05:23 <corewar_> it just seems not logical
05:24 <corewar_> i tried to let anything through from LAN to the external interface and suddenly i could ping the ext.if
05:24 <corewar_> so i think, the game should be able to connect, too!=
05:24 <corewar_> ??
05:28 <corewar_> looks like one needs NAPT to forward to different ip but same port
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05:35 <luke-jr_> corewar_: port forwarding is by definition NAPT
05:36 <corewar_> uh... okay... nat is only letting clients behind the wall through then?
05:37 <luke-jr_> what wall?
05:37 <luke-jr_> NAT is translating 10.0.0.* to 55.21.13.*
05:37 <luke-jr_> NAT doesn't know what a port is
05:37 <corewar_> yes... i thought portforward would be kind of a module to a nat
05:38 <luke-jr_> NAT can't do port forwarding because NAT doesn't know what a port is
05:38 <corewar_> and my forwards do work acutally... i just cant connect to my game from inside, when i use my restrictive iptables script
05:38 <luke-jr_> corewar_: if you use NAT, then you need a public IP for every private IP
05:38 <corewar_> thats not the case here
05:39 <luke-jr_> then you have NAPT
05:39 <corewar_> i have 4 pcs behind my firewall
05:39 <corewar_> okay... lol... didnt know that
05:39 <corewar_> the settings is somethign like -t NAT
05:39 <corewar_> and forwarding
05:39 <corewar_> that does the trick
05:40 <corewar_> i suppose, youre not practised in iptables? could i show you my conf? maybe theres something i cant see
05:42 <luke-jr_> corewar_: wait, what? you have a second firewall too?
05:43 <corewar_> no
05:43 <corewar_> i have a DSL modem connected to a linux box
05:43 <luke-jr_> oh, a linux box for your NAPT?
05:44 <corewar_> my game dissapeared from the list again for no apperent reason
05:44 <corewar_> i just left the game
05:44 <luke-jr_> that can happen if the master server can't connect
05:45 <corewar_> the server always rebinds to the socket... and its a different port than the client uses
05:47 <corewar_> what is the score, that can be changed with + and - in the game list?
05:48 <luke-jr_> based on ping, # of players, etc
05:51 <corewar_> i couldt find the setting for the client for the "Minimum Port"
05:51 <corewar_> i have a problem with accessing the external interface, i believe. when i use my mobile connection on my notebook, i managed to see
05:51 <corewar_> arr
05:51 <corewar_> sorry
06:32 <corewar_> is it forbidden to display an URL pointing to a game related page?
06:32 <corewar_> i mean server side
06:34 <luke-jr_> …
06:35 <corewar_> a| ??
06:39 <luke-jr_> that's what SHE said
06:44 <corewar_> who is she?
06:44 <luke-jr_> lucifer
06:44 <corewar_> i want to place hints about how to play somewhere...
06:45 <corewar_> i guess my settings are somewhat exotic
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07:25 <corewar_> i cant configure walls length, i always get 2 messages:
07:26 <corewar_> CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH changed from 0.0099999 to -1 on server order, then it gets reset the otther way around. happens each round
07:26 <corewar_> whats wrong? cant find any settings that i possibly forgot
07:27 <corewar_> it happens right before "deleting objects"/"grid" is shown
07:27 <corewar_> and after
07:31 <luke-jr_> set WALLS_LENGTH instead
07:33 <corewar_> walls seem to stay
07:34 <corewar_> cant the value be set to less than 800??
07:34 <corewar_> setting in the conf takes no effect
07:37 <corewar_> and i can set another value to it via console...!?!?
07:37 <luke-jr_> it can only change between rounds
07:38 <corewar_> i know... when i change the conf, i get informed about the new setting was sent by the server. not for WALLS_LENTGH
07:38 <luke-jr_> SP_WALLS_LENGTH if you're in single player mode
07:38 <corewar_> no online
07:39 <luke-jr_> online or offline, single player mode is single player mode
07:39 <corewar_> i play online
07:39 <luke-jr_> single player mode exists online too
07:39 <corewar_> uh.
07:39 <corewar_> i choose internet game and connected to my server
07:39 <luke-jr_> if there's only one player on the server, that's single player mode
07:39 <corewar_> oookay
07:39 <corewar_> thats bad
07:39 <corewar_> how should i test my settings then???
07:40 <luke-jr_> do SP_* for everything too
07:40 <corewar_> i need a third pc? that cant be??
07:40 <corewar_> i see
07:40 <corewar_> gah
07:40 <luke-jr_> you could always split screen and have 2 players on 1 client
07:41 <luke-jr_> btw, http://lightfoot.dashjr.org ;)
07:41 <corewar_> aha... will look... meanwhile i connected via another pc... not that i have too less pcs *G*
07:42 <corewar_> heheh
07:42 <luke-jr_> :þ
07:42 <corewar_> well... if i decide to run a server permanently, i know whom to ask... sorry
07:42 <luke-jr_> <.<
07:42 <corewar_> friend of mine
07:43 <corewar_> we have a test server "cluster"
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07:47 <corewar> BRB
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08:28 <corewar> i dont get, how CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY[BONUS] are working
08:28 <corewar> as i understand it, after a turn it will raise rubber effieciency
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11:06 <corewar> thats odd... someone just came in and told me, he could change camera views... he uses 0.3.x
11:06 <corewar> how do i forbid that?
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14:28 <corewar> i have server 0.2.8 and want to forbid some new camera modes of 0.3 clients. how?
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14:38 <luke-jr> corewar: 0.3 doesn't have any new camera modes AFAIK
14:39 <corewar> someone said, he could change camera
14:40 <corewar> maybe he was stupid and mistook spectator mode, but i asked again and he said "ingame"
14:40 <corewar> and there should be a map i heard
14:40 <corewar> this isnt good either
14:40 <luke-jr> there's a minimap in all cameras
14:40 <luke-jr> I don't know any way to block it.
14:41 <corewar> even in 0.2.8?
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15:05 <akira_arma> .servers
15:05 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 45 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (13/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (10/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/12), WILDCAT (5/8), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (5/10), COREWARS / First Person View (4/8), The Tavern (4/16), {Delicious Desserts} Racing (1 more message)
15:05 <akira_arma> .more
15:05 <tronner> akira_arma: II (3/14), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (3/8), >>> FAST TRACK FIGHT NOW (Closing forbidden) <<< (2/12), Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing << (1/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (1/10), Wild West  =Nano Sumo=  ~Multi~Mode~ (1/16), .dBd|Death By Distraction (Fortress) -*New Map!*- (1/10), internalDrive -=- iD Tech Camps (1/16)
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16:31 <hoop> Lackadaisical: is your team having matches tonight?
16:32 <Lackadaisical> yeah
16:32 <hoop> wanna play us too?
16:33 <Lackadaisical> well i'm personally kinda busy doing other stuff as well..
16:33 <Lackadaisical> maybe we can do one on a weekday this week? dunno yet when my team will be available though
16:37 <hoop> ok
16:39 <Lackadaisical> i'll ask them tonight
16:39 <hoop> ok, thanks
16:53 <K-Yo> Lackadaisical,  hoop maybe I can play this week, if you lack players
16:54 <K-Yo> (haha)
17:12 <hoop> hoho ;P
17:15 <hoop> hoax: how about |x|? fofo told me you're not playing tonight
17:17 <hoax> hoop, what?
17:18 <hoax> oh
17:19 <hoax> havnt you talked to fofo about that already
17:21 <hoop> he told me he's not sure he's free tonight
17:21 <hoax> hoop what time
17:21 <hoop> dunno
17:22 <hoop> 6-7-8 gmt?
17:25 <hoax> 7GMT?
17:26 <hoop> hoax: 7-8 gmt should be fine for us, let me know about X <3
17:28 <hoax> kai
17:36 <K-Yo> .ladle
17:36 <tronner> Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1: Players (9/26): <V>xTØ M, akira, aok yoshy, man2d, R3PCorn (Corn1@forums), |x| FoFo, |x| Raiden, ~|DS|~ Plage, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@xclan.armagetron.co.uk/member) *|* Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2: Players (0/26):
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18:21 <ivantis> hmm
18:21 <ivantis> i have the same problem as zerothis
18:21 <ivantis> only i dont need to keep moving the mouse
18:25 <K-Yo> #seen zerothis
18:25 <armabot> K-Yo: zerothis was last seen in #armagetron 13 hours, 25 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <zerothis> 1680x1050, the card can do more, the monitor is 1680x1050. it will display just fine as long as I keep moving the mouse. it does this in all lower resolutions also
18:25 <K-Yo> #last --from zerothis --nolimit
18:25 <K-Yo> hmmm
18:25 <armabot> K-Yo: [04:59:57] <zerothis> 1680x1050, the card can do more, the monitor is 1680x1050. it will display just fine as long as I keep moving the mouse. it does this in all lower resolutions also and [04:57:25] <zerothis> I have linux. in fullscreen mode armagetron will immediately minimize. switching back to the window makes it minimize again. Unless on constantly move the mouse which keeps the window (1 more message)
18:25 <K-Yo> #more
18:25 <armabot> K-Yo: visible but it is unselected
18:26 <ivantis> is 2607:f590:0:ffff::1f an IPv6 number?
18:26 <ivantis> its on the dyndns page, my account was about to expire
18:26 <K-Yo> :O
18:28 <ivantis> 2002:18fc:16e6:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d is luke-jr's
18:28 <ivantis> 2002:18fc:16e6:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31 is ljrbot's
18:28 <ivantis> i want a cool IPv6 hostname
18:29 <ivantis> luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr: how do i get a name like yours?
18:35 <madmax> you say "…" lots of times
18:40 <corewar> just installed a dedicated on a linux server, we checked the ADMIN_PASS exists only in one location, but we get rejected when saying /login passwd
18:40 <corewar> when i was running the server at home, i could login
18:41 <corewar> is there something to set, who may log in?
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18:42 <hoop> the dedicated version is the same you had at home?
18:44 <corewar> same version
18:45 <ivantis> can you believe this?
18:45 <ivantis> someone already took ivantis@gmail.com!
18:46 <ivantis> what kind of jerk?
18:46 <hoop> corewar: same building parameters too?
18:47 <corewar> my home server was the windows version, the new one is on gentoo
18:47 <hoop> have you enabled armathentication?
18:47 <corewar> no?? how?
18:47 <corewar> we installed a binary
18:48 <hoop> on linux?
18:48 <corewar> yes
18:48 <corewar> my friend downloaded it from sourceforge
18:48 <hoop> I'm almost sure that's not a good thing
18:48 <hoop> does theserver work?
18:48 <corewar> aye
18:49 <hoop> in which file have you put ADMIN_PASS command?
18:50 <corewar> in the last one, that is loaded
18:50 <corewar> so i hope
18:50 <hoop> what file?
18:50 <ivantis> you should really build from source
18:50 <corewar> the server_dedicated includes server_custom, which inclides the real file
18:50 <ivantis> build from my source that is
18:50 <hoop> ivantis: next step maybe
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18:51 <corewar> alright, we do build
18:51 <corewar> from where to get sources?
18:52 <hoop> wait, you installed only the binary?
18:52 <corewar> aha... he installed only one single binary file which created the rest
18:53 <hoop> does the server recognize the other settings?
18:53 <corewar> yes
18:53 <corewar> my custom game works fine
18:53 <corewar> only login doesnt do
18:54 <corewar> where is the best place to get the source?
18:54 <corewar> suppose souceforge should be fine?
18:54 <hoop> https://launchpad.net/armagetronad/+download
18:55 <corewar> thanks
18:55 <hoop> not sure that's the best, it will be god for a basic stable installation
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18:57 <hoop> if the game settings are in the same file where you've put ADMIN_PASS and they are loaded, the server should let you login
18:58 <ivantis> aw
18:58 <ivantis> youre not going to use mine?
18:58 <corewar> it is in the same file
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18:58 <corewar> according to the wiki, its the last file processed
18:59 <hoop> can you monitor the server's output?
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18:59 <corewar> it said something about "rejected" though i didnt read it myself, my friend is on the other pc, cause its his server
19:00 <hoop> I'm afraid that's the only way to know what's wrong with it
19:00 <ivantis> have any of you guys heard of 3 Na Massa?
19:00 <ivantis> they are great
19:01 <hoop> nope
19:01 <ivantis> Brazilian trio
19:01 <ivantis> i got a CD of theirs from the library
19:01 <ivantis> i love Brazilian music
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19:05 <ivantis> NÃO É SÓ VOCÊ
19:05 <ivantis> what does that mean?
19:05 <ivantis> its the song im listening to
19:06 <ivantis> who is the one here who speaks Portuguese?
19:07 <madmax> means "it's not just you"
19:07 <ivantis> oh
19:07 <ivantis> i wish i had written down who it was by
19:07 <ivantis> it was on a CD from the library too
19:08 <ivantis> but its still on my iPod
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19:08 <ivantis> Now it is playing "Take it easy my brother Charlie"
19:08 <ivantis> i think that is what it is called
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19:09 <corewar> shall we use .0.3 or the older one?
19:09 <ivantis> the older one
19:09 <corewar> thanks
19:09 <ivantis> .0.3 is not...
19:09 <ivantis> good
19:09 <corewar> its alpha, isnt it?
19:10 <ivantis> well, do you want a shooting/zombies/other cool stuff server?
19:11 <corewar> not really, i would like to be able to forbid the minimap maybe
19:11 <ivantis> uh
19:11 <corewar> but i prefer stable
19:11 <ivantis> is that possible?
19:11 <ivantis> yes
19:11 <corewar> well not with 0.2.8
19:11 <ivantis> stable is nice
19:11 <ivantis> 0.2.8
19:11 <corewar> its an cockpit view server, minimap would be like chearing
19:11 <corewar> cheating
19:11 <ivantis> or 0.2.8_alpha
19:12 <ivantis> its nice
19:12 <corewar> on the page you told me is only one 0.2.8 src
19:12 <ivantis> there are a bunch of peoples modifications around
19:12 <ivantis> of 0.2.8-sty
19:13 <ivantis> like, ahem, mine
19:13 <ivantis> which rocks
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19:13 <ivantis> nobody else's server has KILL_ALL command
19:13 <corewar> is there a client contained in the linux server?
19:14 <corewar> my friend just told me he must install some media library
19:14 <ivantis> SOU MAIS O SAMBA
19:14 <ivantis> what does that mean?
19:14 <ivantis> woah woah woah
19:14 <corewar> i wonder what for a media library is needed
19:14 <ivantis> some media library?
19:14 <ivantis> huh?
19:14 <ivantis> no
19:14 <corewar> sdl
19:14 <ivantis> dont install it
19:14 <ivantis> wait, this is for a server right?
19:14 <corewar> yes
19:14 <ivantis> why would you need SDL on a server install?
19:14 <corewar> i wonder, too
19:14 <ivantis> that dont make sense man
19:15 <corewar> thats what i say... but its a dependency
19:15 <corewar> did you give me the client??
19:16 <akira_arma> .tea
19:16 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (14/32): ? Lizmatic, Channel, cT¤K-Yo, DeRaNGeR, Flex, Monkey.D.Luffy, noob13 (noob13@forums), R3PCorn (Corn1@forums), SageLord (SageLord@forums), speed, ~*W33D*~, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~sunny, ±
19:17 <hoop> corewar: from source you can build both server and client
19:17 <hoop> or*
19:18 <corewar> aha... erm... we look into it
19:18 <hoop> if you pass --disable-glout to ./configure, you build a server, otherwise a client
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19:20 <ivantis> what the hell?
19:20 <ivantis> there is a piece of paper on my net-printer that says:
19:20 <ivantis> targettarget
19:20 <ivantis> g++: unrecognized option '-targettarget'
19:21 <hoop> corewar, hope this helps: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer
19:21 <ivantis> 0;ivantis@space-lab.us: ~/Desktopivantis
19:21 <ivantis> isnt that weird?
19:21 <ivantis> and it wasnt there before i went to pee
19:21 <ivantis> did one of you guys print that?
19:28 <corewar> cool... building from src did it, thanks a lot!
19:28 <corewar> can i force the server to load a certain cfg via console?
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19:33 <corewar> "COREWARS" up
19:35 <sithy> .tea
19:35 <tronner> sithy: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (18/32): .W33D (.W33D@forums), 1200, ? Lizmatic, akira (akira@forums), cT¤K-Yo, Flex, H¦A¦ld, mercenarieboy, noob13 (noob13@forums), O--->, PhanTO M, Radian (radian@forums), SageLord (SageLord@forums), speed, ~|DS|~ Plage, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums)
19:36 <sithy> time for tea i guess
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19:45 <ivantis> #disclaimer
19:45 <armabot> anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
19:49 <G5> What server will DS vs MC be on?
19:49 <akira_arma> isnt it x?
19:49 <akira_arma> vs mc
19:49 <akira_arma> lol
19:49 <akira_arma> well ask hoop
19:51 <G5> its x vs open team ... see wiki
19:56 <K-Yo> ivantis,  G5 we have not enough servers?
19:56 <ivantis> huh?
19:56 <K-Yo> ivantis,  sry, for highlight
19:57 <K-Yo> not intended :P
19:57 <ivantis> oh ok
19:57 <K-Yo> :P
19:57 <K-Yo> .ls G5
19:57 <tronner> K-Yo: ~|DS|~G5 seems to be on Fortress Café - CT's clone right now.
19:57 <K-Yo> .ls durka
19:57 <K-Yo> .ls ddmj
19:57 <corewar> how do i get the server to reload conf?
19:57 <tronner> K-Yo:   Durka has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2 17 hours 47 minutes ago.
19:57 <tronner> K-Yo:   DDMJ has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 12 hours 1 minute ago.
19:57 <K-Yo> corewar,  in what file is ur conf?
19:57 <ivantis> INCLUDE settings_dedicated.cfg
19:57 <ivantis> or INCLUDE <file.cfg>
19:57 <K-Yo> that is mostly what ivantis said
19:57 <K-Yo> ><
19:58 <corewar> i want to use a console command "re-initialize"
19:58 <K-Yo> there is non
19:58 <K-Yo> none
19:58 <corewar> not "everytime"
19:58 <ivantis> that is a good idea
19:58 <K-Yo> you can close/re-open the server
19:58 <hoop> hoax: still alive?
19:58 <corewar> can i tell the daemon?
19:58 <K-Yo> corewar,  dedicated server?
19:58 <corewar> aye
19:59 <K-Yo> what I do is restart server
19:59 <K-Yo> like that, I'm sure it reloaded everything
19:59 <corewar> if i restart, everybody gets kicked, right?
19:59 <K-Yo> but for config only, I /admin include settings_custom.cfg
19:59 <G5> K-Yo: the wiki doesnt show a server for our 1st (any only) match
19:59 <K-Yo> corewar,  yep
19:59 <sithy> corewar: no, they stay trapped in the server forever
19:59 <K-Yo> G5,  If there is none, I think we could host a 3rd
19:59 <corewar> i can tell it to load acertain conf via /admin? that'd be cool
20:00 <K-Yo> but seems strange that no one else have a server :/
20:00 <K-Yo> corewar,  read up
20:00 <K-Yo> corewar,   /admin include settings_custom.cfg
20:00 <G5> I think there are enought servers ... but enough admins?
20:00 <corewar> kk... tyvm
20:00 <K-Yo> G5,  on CT servers, we have moderators everywhere
20:00 <K-Yo> for ladle
20:00 <K-Yo> I dunno about ww
20:01 <K-Yo> G5,  I think ur mod there too
20:01 <G5> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
20:01 <G5> K-Yo: :O
20:01 <K-Yo> .ls G5
20:01 <tronner> K-Yo: ~|DS|~G5 has last been seen on Fortress Café - CT's clone 3 minutes ago.
20:01 <K-Yo> G5: what ur GID
20:01 <K-Yo> ?
20:01 <K-Yo> .ladle
20:01 <tronner> Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1: Players (0/26):  *|* Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2: Players (0/26):
20:02 <G5> GID?
20:02 <K-Yo> General ID
20:02 <K-Yo> G5@forums
20:02 <K-Yo> or smthing like that
20:02 <G5> yep
20:02 <K-Yo> come to ladle 1
20:02 <K-Yo> and log in
20:02 <G5> it is G5@forums
20:03 <G5> ladle 1 is styball?
20:03 <K-Yo> nope
20:03 <K-Yo> change ur bookmarks
20:03 <G5> mompls
20:03 <K-Yo> seem we're having some port problems :P
20:04 <K-Yo> G5,  ladle 2, seems we're ahving problems here
20:07 <ivantis> why?
20:07 <luke-jr> ivantis: ivantis ivantis
20:07 <ivantis> ah finally
20:07 <ivantis> but now i dont remember what i was going to ask you
20:08 <ivantis> oh yeah
20:08 <ivantis> luke-jr: how do i get a IPv6 hostname like yours on IRC?
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20:12 <ivantis> luke-jr: yeah, i remember browsing like http://www.operamasks.org/articles/braveNewWorld/html_single/images/netscape1.0.jpg
20:12 <ivantis> that picture
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20:16 <luke-jr> ivantis: use IPv6 to connect to IRC
20:16 <luke-jr> duh
20:17 <ivantis> how do i request an IPv6 IP?
20:17 <luke-jr> first enable IPv6 support in your OS
20:17 <pavelo> http://sixxs.net :)
20:17 <luke-jr> pavelo: meeh
20:17 <luke-jr> pavelo: no no no
20:17 <ivantis> ubuntu 8.04
20:17 <pavelo> why?
20:17 <ivantis> how?
20:18 <luke-jr> ivantis: no idea; modprobe ipv6 # will do it, but it will go away when you reboot
20:18 <ivantis> i dont reboot that often
20:18 <luke-jr> shrug
20:18 <ivantis> like once a month
20:18 <ivantis> or when the power goes out
20:19 <luke-jr> then configure your OS to use it
20:19 <G5> ivantis: I remember "surfing" the web like this: http://info.cern.ch/images/NextEditorBW.gif
20:20 <luke-jr> ivantis: ifconfig should show IPv6 addresses once you modprobe
20:20 <ivantis> how?
20:20 <luke-jr> ivantis: pastebin
20:20 <ivantis>           inet6 addr: 2002:3ff5:9f4e:1234:20c:f1ff:fea6:2c87/64 Scope:Global
20:20 <ivantis>           inet6 addr: fe80::20c:f1ff:fea6:2c87/64 Scope:Link
20:20 <ivantis> like dat?
20:20 <luke-jr> yep
20:21 <ivantis> so, will it appear on IRC now?
20:21 <luke-jr> ping6 www.kame.net
20:21 <luke-jr> no, you need to connect to FreeNode via IPv6 now
20:21 <luke-jr> ipv6.chat.freenode.net
20:21 <ivantis> okay
20:21 <ivantis> 100 percent packet loss
20:22 <luke-jr> yeah, www.kame.net isn't responding to me either ☹
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20:22 <ivantis23> all right
20:22 <ivantis23> i have a cool one now
20:22 <luke-jr> :þ
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20:23 <hoax> hoop?
20:24 <hoax> #ls hoop
20:24 <armabot> hoax: hoop has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 3 hours 12 minutes ago.
20:25 <ivantis> aw
20:25 <ivantis> i forgot
20:25 <ivantis> i cant use it with my hostmask
20:25 <ivantis> how do i get rid of my hostmask?
20:26 <luke-jr> ivantis: what's your IPv4 BTW?
20:26 <luke-jr> ivantis: contact FreeNode staff in #freenode
20:26 <ivantis> or something like that
20:26 <ivantis> i cant remember
20:26 <ivantis> it changed recently
20:26 <ivantis> ivantis.ath.cx goes to it
20:27 <luke-jr> :þ
20:28 <G5> To use IPv6 with e.g. IRC, is my IRC client required to support IPv6 too?
20:28 <luke-jr> of course
20:28 <G5> So browsers (e.g. Firefox, Safari) have IPv6 build in?
20:29 <luke-jr> generally
20:29 <G5> k, thx
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20:29 <ivantis> aw dangit
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20:47 <G5_Test> luke-jr: Ok, my IRC client does ... I think :)
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20:51 <ivantis> hmm
20:52 <ivantis> ivanbot is no longer banned from here with his cool IPv6 address
20:52 <ivantis> %ping
20:52 <ivanbot> pong
20:52 <G5_Test> Nice ... and this is without ipv6 tunneling ...
20:52 <MrBougo> meh
20:52 <MrBougo> I want an ipv6 address too
20:52 <luke-jr> lol
20:52 <MrBougo> but my isp is retarded
20:53 <MrBougo> they'll move as late as possible I guess
20:53 <luke-jr> MrBougo: or your router
20:53 <MrBougo> or maybe later than possible
20:53 <ivantis> btw luke-jr
20:53 <MrBougo> luke-jr, nope, it's not router dependant
20:53 <MrBougo> I mean
20:53 <ivantis> ljrbot still goes to #armagetron-dev
20:53 <luke-jr> MrBougo: 6to4 is
20:53 <ljrbot> ivantis: Error: "still" is not a valid command.
20:53 <MrBougo> changing my router wont give me ipv6
20:53 <ivantis> ljrbot: was i talking to you? no, kthnxbye
20:53 <ljrbot> I certainly was!
20:54 <luke-jr> MrBougo: it will
20:54 <luke-jr> MrBougo: IPv6 will automatically tunnel the "last mile"
20:54 <ivantis> @epsy is a noob
20:54 <G5_Test> My router (at home) doesnt support IPv6 ... this connect is from my office. For home I need a tunnel I guess.
20:54 <ivantis> @ping
20:55 <ivantis> .ping
20:55 <tronner> pong
20:55 <ivantis> sweet
20:55 <ivantis> im only still ignored by teabot
20:55 <ivantis> is teabot really on fiji?
20:55 <ivantis> his reaction time is fast
20:55 <luke-jr> G5_Test: or a better router
20:55 <ivantis> %echo @ping
20:55 <ivanbot> @ping
20:55 <luke-jr> G5_Test: OpenWrt ftw
20:55 <ivantis> %echo #ping
20:55 <ivanbot> #ping
20:55 <armabot> pong
20:56 <ivantis> %echo .ping
20:56 <ivanbot> .ping
20:56 <tronner> pong
20:56 <MrBougo> luke-jr, not if my isp knows nothing about ipv6
20:56 <ivantis> %ignore add *bot
20:56 <ivanbot> ivantis: Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
20:56 <MrBougo> try looking for belgacom and ipv6
20:56 <ivantis> %admin ignore add *bot
20:56 <ivanbot> ivantis: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:56 <MrBougo> or skynet and ipv6
20:56 <ivantis> %admin ignore add *bot
20:56 <ivanbot> ivantis: Error: '*bot' is not a valid nick or hostmask.
20:56 <MrBougo> *bot!*@*
20:56 <ivantis> how do i make it ignore all bots?
20:56 <ivantis> oh
20:56 <ivantis> %admin ignore add *bot!*@*
20:56 <ivanbot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
20:57 <MrBougo> @echo %echo test
20:57 <teabot> %echo test
20:57 <G5_Test> luke-jr: new router is ... difficult. I need > 50 MBit/s throughput and VLAN support for external VDSL modem ...
20:58 <ivantis> %fetch2 http://armagetronad.net
20:58 <ivanbot> ivantis: <!DOCTYPE  HTML    PUBLIC    "-//W3C//DTD    HTML 4.01    Transitional//EN">    Armagetron    Advanced :: a    Tron clone in    3D                 ArmagetronAdvanced                    -          navigation              -    News                      -    News        Archive                      -    About        -    Contacts             -    Downloads                 - (23 more messages)
20:58 <ivantis> i made a nice HTML parser for it
20:58 <MrBougo> luke-jr, oh I see
20:58 <MrBougo> you meant a local ipv6 network
20:58 <MrBougo> connected to the internet with an ipv4 wan
20:59 <luke-jr> G5_Test: 50 Mbit/sec WAN?
20:59 <ivantis> something like that
20:59 <G5_Test> luke-jr: yep ... :)
20:59 <luke-jr> MrBougo: I mean connection to the global IPv6 network, with automatic IPv4 wrapping for the "last mile" hop
21:00 <K-Yo> .ls hoax
21:00 <tronner> K-Yo: ¦×¦ Hoax seems to be on CT Ladle Fortress 2 Match MC vs. |x| - please stay away right now.
21:00 <G5_Test> k, back to my local irc ... with old IPv4 ...
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21:00 <MrBougo> luke-jr, isn't that isp-independant ?
21:01 <luke-jr> MrBougo: exactly
21:01 <MrBougo> I see
21:01 <MrBougo> how does that wrapping work by the way?
21:01 <luke-jr> MrBougo: 2002:aabb:ccdd::/48 gets routed to aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd at the last mile
21:02 <luke-jr> and is an anycast address for the other direction
21:02 <MrBougo> oh, it's some sort of convention for the backbone hubs?
21:02 <luke-jr> not quite, it's designed for the last mile, not for backbones
21:02 <luke-jr> just gets your packet to the nearest IPv6 router
21:03 <ivantis> fuck
21:03 <MrBougo> oh ok I see
21:03 <ivantis> my foot fell asleep!
21:03 <G5> luke-jr: http://www.speedtest.net/result/334174207.png
21:03 <ivantis> i hate it when that happens
21:03 <luke-jr> G5: ok
21:04 <MrBougo> lol ivantis
21:04 <MrBougo> wake it up
21:04 <ivantis> iim trying
21:04 <MrBougo> slap it, alarmclock it
21:04 <MrBougo> whatever
21:05 <MrBougo> stand up :p
21:05 <MrBougo> er bad idea, I once felt my feet was asleep, stood up, and it turned out that my whole leg was asleep as well
21:06 -!- z-manuel [n=manuel@p5087290B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"]
21:06 <G5> Wasnt the ladle #16 supposed to be today?
21:07 <ivantis> ping!
21:07 <ivantis> %no
21:07 <Lackadaisical> next week
21:07 <zmanuel> Next week.
21:07  * zmanuel fell into the same trap
21:07 <ivantis> luke-jr, your bot has an annoying habbit: replying when the command isnt a command
21:07 <luke-jr> ivantis: f u
21:07 <ivantis> ]yourmom
21:07 <ljrbot> ivantis: Error: "yourmom" is not a valid command.
21:07 <ivantis> like that
21:07 <ivantis> change it
21:08 <luke-jr> ivantis: no, it's not my fault you're too stupid to use valid commands
21:08 <ivantis> ]echo %ping
21:08 <ljrbot> %ping
21:08 <ivantis> %ping
21:08 <ivanbot> pong
21:08 <ivantis> good, no flooding
21:09 <ivantis> *bot!*@2002:440d:6de2:0:*
21:09 <ivantis> was that your bot?
21:09 <ivantis> guess not
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21:14 <ivantis> ping
21:14 <luke-jr> no
21:14 <ivantis> ivantis2 is a very simple perl script
21:14 <ivantis> hmm
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21:17 <ivantis2> hi
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21:19 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis2@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
21:19 <ivantis2> hi
21:19 <ivantis> hello
21:19 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis2@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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21:20 <ivantis2> hi
21:20 <ivantis> hello
21:20 <ivantis2> hello!
21:20 <ivantis> it talks
21:20 <ivantis> hello ivantis2
21:20 <ivantis2> hello!
21:20 <ivantis> someone else try it
21:20 <ivantis> %echo hello
21:20 <ivanbot> hello
21:20 <ivantis2> hello!
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21:23 <Durka> #lastseen goinver
21:23 <armabot> Durka:   GoInVeR has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 29 minutes ago.
21:24 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis2@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
21:24 <ivantis2> hi
21:24 <ivantis> ivantis2
21:24 <ivantis2> ivantis!n=ivantis just said my name
21:24 <Durka> #lastseen goody
21:24 <armabot> Durka: Goodygumdrops has last been seen on Flower Power Sumo Assault 10 hours 33 minutes ago.
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21:25 <ivantis2> hi
21:25 <Durka> arg
21:25 <ivantis> ivantis2
21:25 <ivantis2> ivantis just said my name
21:25 <ivantis> %echo ivantis2
21:25 <ivantis2> ivantis just said my name
21:25 <ivanbot> ivantis2
21:25 <ivantis2> ivanbot just said my name
21:25 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-173-122-30.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
21:25 <ivantis> someone else say its name
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21:26 <perlbottest> hi
21:26 <ivantis> perlbottest
21:26 <perlbottest> ivantis just said my name
21:27 <ivantis> how smart is it?
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21:27 <ct|kyle> ivantis: stupid (i've seen it a lot)
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21:34 <sithy> .ladle
21:34 <tronner> There doesn't seem to be a server matching “crazy tronners ladle fortress 1” at the moment, sorry. *|* There doesn't seem to be a server matching “crazy tronners ladle fortress 2” at the moment, sorry.
21:34 <ct|kyle> .si ct ladle 1
21:34 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ct ladle 1” at the moment, sorry.
21:34 <ct|kyle> .si ct ladle fort 1
21:34 <tronner> ct|kyle: CT Ladle fort 1 KOz vs. CT - Please stay away: Players (12/26): .W33D, 1200, 1200#2, CTxGonZaP, CTxTadd (Tadd@crazy-tronners.com), CT_emphasis (emphasis@ct), ct¤$ø1 (sol@ct), cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@ct), i Am, Legit, wHaTuP, Xyron
21:35 <ct|kyle> .si ct ladle fort 2
21:35 <tronner> ct|kyle: CT ladle fort 2 |x| vs. Mc - Please don't join: Players (11/26): MaZuffeR, Mc.akira, Mc.Concord, mc.hammer (pavelo@forums), Mc.hoop (hoop@forums), Mc.O--->, Mc.sine.wav (sinewav@forums), mc|pixel, |x| FoFo, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@xclan.armagetron.co.uk/member), ¦×¦ Sticky
21:50 -!- perlbottest [n=perlbott@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
21:50 <perlbottest> hi
21:50 -!- perlbottest [n=perlbott@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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21:55 <perlbot2> hi
21:55 -!- ivantis3 [n=open@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
21:55 <ivantis3> perlbot2
21:55 <perlbot2> ivantis3: yes?
21:55 -!- ivantis3 is now known as ivantis2
21:55 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis1
21:55 <ivantis1> perlbot2
21:55 <perlbot2> ivantis1: yes?
21:56 <sithy> perlbot2: asl?
21:56 <perlbot2> sithy: yes?
21:56 <ivantis1> hes da coolest
21:56 <sithy> perlbot2: wanna cyberr?
21:56 <perlbot2> sithy: yes?
21:56 <ivantis1> if you have its name in what you say, it says "yournick: yes?"
21:57 <ivantis1> %echo p \berlbot2
21:57 <ivanbot> p \berlbot2
21:57 <ivantis1> aw, that didnt work
21:57 <ivantis1> %echo perlbot2
21:57 <perlbot2> ivantis1: yes?
21:57 <ivanbot> perlbot2
21:57 <perlbot2> ivanbot: yes?
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21:58 -!- perlbot2 [n=perlbot2@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
21:58 <perlbot2> hi
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22:07 -!- luke-jr is now known as luke-jr-
22:07 -!- luke-jr- is now known as luke-jr
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22:11 <perlbot2> hi
22:11 <ivantis1> hi perlbot2
22:11 <perlbot2> ivantis1: yes?
22:11 <ivantis1> perlbot2, say "yes?"
22:11 <perlbot2> ivantis1: yes?
22:12 <ivantis1> good job!
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22:13 <perlbot2> hi
22:13 <ivantis1> perlbot2 say hi
22:13 <perlbot2> hi
22:13 <ivantis1> perlbot2 say YOU SUCK!
22:13 <perlbot2> YOU
22:13 <ivantis1> hmm
22:14 <Monkey_arma> can someone tell me whether ladle FOTRESS_CONQUEST_RATE should be 0.3 or 0.5
22:14 <Monkey_arma> ??
22:14 <Monkey_arma> please
22:14 <ivantis1> perlbot2 say test test
22:14 <perlbot2> test
22:14 <ivantis1> why no spaces?
22:14 <ivantis1> how odd
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22:15 -!- perlbot2 [n=perlbot2@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
22:15 <perlbot2> hi
22:15 <ivantis1> perlbot2 say hi hi hi
22:15 <perlbot2> hi\
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22:17 <perlbot2> hi
22:17 <ivantis1> perlbot2 say hi hi hi
22:17 <perlbot2> hi_hi_hi
22:17 <ivantis1> aha
22:17 <luke-jr> guru3: perlbot2 kick?
22:17 <ivantis1> no he'll leave
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22:19 <luke-jr> ivantis: #anime !loli
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22:32 <Durka> #hello
22:32 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #78: "<Lucifer> we all live in the other submarine, the other submarine, the other submarine" (added by epsy at 08:20 PM, August 01, 2008)
22:32 <Durka> We all live in the black submarine
22:33 <Durka> it used to be yellow, but we couldn't keep it clean =/
22:34 <Durka> Lackadaisical: how'd it go?
22:35 <Durka> er
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