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--- Day changed Thu Sep 04 2008
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00:12 <Lucifer_pen> guru3: I believe you meant magnanimous
00:13 <ct|kyle1> the hurricane remains just hit me
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00:17  * ivantis is compiling a server with zthread for the first time
00:19 <ivantis> make is taking a really long time, i havent used it to compile a full new server in a while
00:20 <ivantis> ah! done
00:22 <ivantis> instantaneous authentication is much better
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00:38 <ivantis> z-man: how come you join with 2 nicks?
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01:13 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ping
01:13 <ivantis> (ping
01:13 <ivantis> )ping
01:14 <luke-jr> guru3: ping u too maybe
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18:17 <ct|kyle> #ss testing
18:17 <teabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Authentication fortress - Testing (5/14): Blue BrainEaters (79): Puuquie (16), AOLgirl (2), ¦×¦ Liza (2); Gold FleshBiters (78): PlayerNuby (8), SpeeD (6)
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18:33 <PinkTomato> #ss racing
18:33 <teabot> PinkTomato: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (5/14): Something went wrong.
19:25 <luke-jr> epsy: liar
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19:37 <epsy> i did update it :x
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19:38 <luke-jr> epsy: then why are things like CASACL undefined?
19:39 -!- Rogue [n=rogue@user-1120pa0.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
19:40 <luke-jr> and bzr says you've never committed to sty
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19:45 <epsy> did you uprade your copy of it?
19:45 <epsy> luke-jr, https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
19:47 <luke-jr> Standalone tree (format: rich-root-pack)
19:47 <luke-jr> Location:
19:47 <luke-jr>   branch root: .
19:47 <luke-jr> Related branches:
19:47 <luke-jr>   parent branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/
19:47 <epsy> what is the last revision?
19:54 <luke-jr> Tree is up to date at revision 580.
19:55 <epsy> well, you're missing 300 revisions :P
19:55 <luke-jr> up to date
19:55 <epsy> bzr pull lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
19:55 <luke-jr> …
19:55 <epsy> or bzr bind lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty then bzr up
19:55 <luke-jr> wtf is the purpose of bzr up then
19:56 <epsy> mainly in a checkout
19:56 <epsy> or to just roll forward to lastet revision
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19:56 <epsy> ctrl+alt+del?
19:56 <epsy> er
19:56 <epsy> +backspace
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19:58 <epsy> wb
19:58 <epsy> <luke-jr> wtf is the purpose of bzr up then
19:58 <epsy> <epsy> mainly in a checkout
19:58 <epsy> <epsy> or to just roll forward to lastet revision
19:59 <luke-jr> …
20:05 <epsy> what?
20:12 <Rogue> Hey luke, can you change the players that come in back to 10?  It's at 16 right now.
20:13 <Rogue> nvm, its back at 10 xD
20:14 <luke-jr> Rogue: eh?
20:14 <luke-jr> restart to try sty-auth again
20:14 <Rogue> okie :)
20:15 <Rogue> Hmm, for some reason /login @forums brings up "Login denied!"
20:16 <Rogue> how do you login on this version?
20:16 <epsy> GLOBAL_ID 1 ?
20:16 <Rogue> its set
20:16 <epsy> how does that message show up?
20:17 <Rogue> i dunno, go in and try for yourself
20:17 <Rogue> same server
20:17 <epsy> same server?
20:17 <Rogue> yeah
20:17 <Rogue> -=VcL.Clan Server
20:20 <epsy> lol
20:27 <guru3> you don't do the @ sign
20:27 <guru3> just /login furms
20:27 <guru3> *forums
20:34 <Rogue> it says login denied when i do that guru
20:35 <Rogue> when i do /login it doesnt give an error
20:35 <Rogue> but i never see a login page
20:35 <epsy> Rogue, i get a « this server does not support the kind of auth you requested » error
20:36 <Rogue> hmm
20:38 <guru3> whitelist/blacklist?
20:38 <Rogue> Dunno how to use that yet guru.
20:38 <Rogue> Can you explain?  I was looking at that earlier
20:39 <guru3> well, i'm not sure really
20:39 <guru3> but it has to do with authorities
20:39 <Rogue> Hmm
20:40 <Rogue> how would it look after you put the people you want to login in it?
20:40 <guru3> it would be
20:41 <Rogue> AUTHORITY_WHITELIST  If non-empty, only authorities on this comma separated list will be queried by your server.
20:41 <guru3> AUTHORITY_WHITELIST forums
20:41 <Rogue> alright
20:41 <Rogue> lemme try
20:42 <Rogue> still login denied :/
20:42 <guru3> well you'll have to look into epsy's error then
20:42 <guru3> g2g for a bit
20:43 <Rogue> cya
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20:52 <epsy> Rogue, GLOBAL_ID 1
20:53 <epsy> check if it says "unknown command" or soemthing
--- Log closed Thu Sep 04 20:59:44 2008
--- Log opened Thu Sep 04 20:59:57 2008
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20:59 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 29 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 29 normal]
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21:10 <Rogue> lol
21:11 <Rogue> kyle, you there?
21:11 <Rogue> or epsy?  or guru?  or luke? lol
21:11 <epsy> don't ask to ask, just ask
21:12 <Rogue> in the older auth build its not possible for players to /vote include is it?
21:12 <Rogue> go try epsy
21:12 <Rogue> i have it working now
21:12 <epsy> it's working or its not working?
21:13 <epsy> @sd vcl
21:13 <teabot> epsy: The -=VcL.Clan Server :.Multi-Mode.: SumoVOTING_PRIVACY -2: Players (2/8): -=VcL.Rogue, Fuzz-E
21:13 <epsy> huh ? :P
21:19 <guru3> @sd guru3
21:19 <teabot> guru3: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “guru3” at the moment, sorry.
21:19 <guru3> hmmm
21:19 <guru3> server name then
21:19 <epsy> hm?
21:19 <guru3> is there a player search one?
21:20 <epsy>  @ls
21:20 <epsy> (last seen
21:20 <guru3> @ls guru3
21:20 <teabot> guru3: Guru3 seems to be on Swampland Mud Puddle right now.
21:20 <guru3> banzai
21:20 <Rogue> thx epsy for the help :)
21:20 <guru3> it needs to recognize self referenc
21:20 <epsy> yw
21:20 <epsy> @ls teabot
21:20 <epsy> like that?
21:21 <teabot> epsy: timed out
21:22 <epsy> @ls teabot
21:22 <teabot> epsy: timed out
21:22 <epsy> @ls teabot
21:22 <teabot> epsy: teabot seems to be on Swampland Mud Puddle right now.
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21:27 <Rogue> lol
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21:41 <luke-jr> …
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22:28 <ivantis> @logs
22:28 <ivantis> @ping
22:31 <ivantis> noob
22:31 <ivantis> .ping
22:36 <MrBougo> does swampland still exist?
22:36 <MrBougo> is it still so laggy?
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22:41 <ivantis> idk
22:41 <ivantis> i think so
22:42 <ivantis> ca$h hosts it now
22:47 <luke-jr> "Hmm, epsy and i have figured out that auth is not supported on that version.  Guru thinks it would be as easy as patching a newer binary. "
22:47 <luke-jr> epsy: guru3: wtf does that mean?
22:48 <guru3> i said nothing about patching a newer binary
22:48 <luke-jr> MrBougo: many Swamplands exist afaik
22:48 <luke-jr> guru3: what did you say? XD
22:48 <epsy> --enable-authentication
22:48 <ivantis> who added the rotation stuff to 0.3.*?
22:48 <MrBougo> when I left there were two
22:48 <luke-jr> epsy: oh, not armathentication in sty?
22:48 <MrBougo> one on 2.7.1 and another on 2.8
22:48 <ivantis> ??
22:48 <epsy> luke-jr, it just wasnt enabled
22:48 <MrBougo> it had a very tiny grid and some power brakes
22:48  * luke-jr smacks MrBougo for being stupid when he knows better
22:48 <MrBougo> and tiny rubber
22:49 <guru3> ok i did say patching a newer binary, but i was playing at the time, and meant patching newer sources
22:49 <MrBougo> luke-jr, how am I being stupid?
22:49 <ivantis> who added the rotation stuff to 0.3.*? like the rotating settings settings and stuff
22:49 <luke-jr> epsy:   $ ../../src/armagetronad-0.2.8-sty.bzr/configure --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-uninstall --enable-multiver=0.2.8-sty-auth --no-create --no-recursion
22:49 <luke-jr> MrBougo: there is no 2.0 yet even
22:49 <epsy> :/
22:49 <MrBougo> oh crap
22:49 <MrBougo> :p
22:49 <MrBougo> well
22:49 <luke-jr> btw, anyone know why zThread is unavailable on Debian?
22:50 <epsy> 1/ you can use --enable-dedicated, and 2/ you need to --enable-authentication
22:50 <luke-jr> err wait
22:50 <luke-jr> wtf isn't it in there
22:50 <ivantis> luke-jr: zthread is unavailable on debian?
22:50 <ivantis> i thought it wasnt OS dependant
22:50 <StickyNoob> what is zthread?
22:50 <ivantis> i just installed it on ubuntu yesterday
22:51 <ivantis> Stickynoob: extra libraries for multiple operations
22:51 <ivantis> i think
22:51  * luke-jr wonders why his -auth builds don't have the configure flag in config.log
22:52 <ivantis> Q:	Why is Christmas just like a day at the office?
22:52 <ivantis> A:	You do all of the work and the fat guy in the suit
22:52 <ivantis> 	gets all the credit.
22:52 <StickyNoob> ba boom tish
22:52 <ivantis> man, tiger and root crontabs send me a lot of mail
22:53 <ivantis> luke-jr: what is the file that i put the mail forwarding address in using postfix?
22:53 <ivantis> i remember reading it in UNIX for dummies
22:53 <luke-jr> ivantis: .forward of course
22:53 <ivantis> in where?
22:53 <luke-jr> the user's home dir
22:53 <ivantis> /home/USER/.forward?
22:53 <luke-jr> yes
22:53 <ivantis> just a plain email address?
22:53 <luke-jr> …
22:54 <luke-jr> any more stupid questions will be ignored, kthx
22:54 <guru3> /etc/portage/virtual
22:54 <luke-jr> guru3: …
22:54 <guru3> /etc/mail/aliases
22:54 <ivantis> someone with C++ knowledge look at my post on the forums
22:54 <guru3> one of those two
22:54 <ivantis> and its not a stupid question this time
22:54 <luke-jr> we should port Armagetron to Qt
22:54 <ivantis> Qt?
22:55 <ivantis> whats that?
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23:21 <epsy> ivantis, use a debugger
23:21 <epsy> gn
23:21 <ivantis> what debugger?
23:21 <ivantis> how does it work?
23:21 <epsy> gdb
23:21 <epsy> gdb ./armagetronad
23:21 <epsy> once it crashes, type bt ;)
23:21 <ivantis> gnu debugger im guessing?
23:22 <epsy> yes
23:22 <ivantis> ./armagetronad should be replaced by my binary?
23:22 <epsy> yes
23:22 <ivantis> k
23:22 <epsy> gn
23:22 <luke-jr> wow
23:22 <luke-jr> this is seriously retarded
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23:22 <luke-jr> I disputed about 20 unknown $1 charges on my credit card
23:23 <luke-jr> and get 20 letters saying "we'll tell you more once we look at the receipt"
23:23 <luke-jr> each 34 cents of postage
23:23 <ivantis> my dad had a whole lot of unknown $19.93 charges a while ago, all internet service related
23:23 <ivantis> 19.93? what an odd number
23:23 <luke-jr> you'd think someone would realize they're going to end up spending more on postage than the disputed amount
23:24 <ivantis> hahaha
23:24 <Rogue> I think it was you ivantis, watching that pr0n
23:24 <ivantis> ill bet all of those charges are from your businesses on the net
23:24 <luke-jr> nah, it was Hyphy
23:24 <Rogue> lol
23:25 <Rogue> Hey where is epsy?  i need him to help me with voting again on my server.  Auth is working, but the voting is saying too few players are online xD
23:25 <Rogue> epsy is he or she guys?
23:25 <Rogue> epsy confuses me
23:25 <luke-jr> want to buy more slots? XD
23:26 <Rogue> NO LUKE lol more slots = MORE LAG
23:26 <luke-jr> Rogue: not really
23:26 <luke-jr> I mean, sortof
23:26 <Rogue> and i can't afford it
23:26 <luke-jr> but the slots don't do it, the players do :þ
23:26 <Rogue> True.
23:28 <ivantis> gdb says No stack when i type bt
23:28 <ivantis> luke-jr: any help?
23:28 <luke-jr> yes, learn to use gdb
23:28 <luke-jr> and stfu until
23:30 <Rogue> LOL!
23:30 <Rogue> pwnt
23:34 <ivantis> wow
23:34 <ivantis> is it possible to overload less?
23:34 <ivantis> i was trying to look at my old mail file with less, and the terminal reset, and when i typed it didnt show up
23:35 <ivantis> odd
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23:46 <ivantis> im using gdb on my server, and attached its PID. how come i cant connect?
23:54 <Rogue> ivantis, can you come to vcl server with luke and i?
23:54 <Rogue> and login with auth and test out the voting lol he cant login
23:55 <ivantis> sure

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