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Log from 2008-08-30:
--- Day changed Sat Aug 30 2008
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00:11 <Legacy> epsy
00:11 <Legacy> you still there?
00:12 <epsy> yes?
00:12 <Legacy> i did /login -=VcL.Rogue@authority
00:12 <Legacy> and it says couldnt find url...
00:12 <Legacy> lol i am confused about this stuff
00:12 <epsy> by authority you shouldn't put authority like that
00:12 <Legacy> how should i do it?
00:12 <epsy> if it was always authority, why would it be here in the first place
00:12 <epsy> :)
00:13 <Legacy> xD ok so how do i gain admin powers over my server?
00:13 <epsy> one authority is the authority g
00:13 <epsy> which gets it's users from the official forums
00:13 <Legacy> that is /login @forums right?
00:14 <Legacy> ok, you are confusing me.  What do i need to type in?
00:15 <epsy> /login yourusername@g
00:16 <epsy> @forums is going to be discontinued soon
00:18 <Legacy> kk ill try it
00:23 <Legacy> got error code 404 content <!doctype html public yadayadayady
00:23 <Legacy> wtf is that?
00:23 <Legacy> thats when i typed /login -=VcL.Rogue@g
00:24 <epsy> Legacy, er, right, better try with forums then
00:27 <Legacy> :( i might just go back to non auth
00:27 <Legacy> its bugged
00:27 <epsy> that's my fault, and no it's not bugged
00:30 <Legacy> whats your fault?
00:31 <Legacy> it wont work with any of them.  and when i login how will it know that IM the admin of the server??
00:33 <epsy> if you tell it that you're the admin, yes
00:33 <epsy> lol
00:34 <epsy> USER_LEVEL youraccount@forums 0
00:34 <epsy> do you even have an account there?
00:36 <Legacy> on forums.armagetronad.net yes
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00:37 <Legacy> hey durka
00:37 <Durka_tr> yea fuck me
00:37 <Durka_tr> my bad on fucking up the first upload
00:38 <Durka_tr> luke-jr's gonna kill me
00:39 <Legacy> lol
00:40 <Durka_tr> k bai
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00:40 <epsy> lol
00:40 <epsy> Legacy, /login forums
00:41 <epsy> then fill the form that show up
00:48 <Monkey_arma> why does he even bother coming on for just 3 minutes?
00:48 <Monkey_arma> what is the point?
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00:49 <epsy> @calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc
00:49 <teabot> epsy: The number of seconds Durka can stay online on irc = 30
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00:52 <Legacy> Precondition_failed
00:52 <Legacy> how lame, can't login either way
00:53 <epsy> Legacy, can you give more detail?
00:54 <Legacy> uknown error code 412
00:54 <Legacy> login again at the authoriry
00:56 <epsy> Legacy, go on the forums and relogin
00:57 <epsy> as in, logout, then login again
00:58 <Legacy> ok
01:02 <Legacy> it worked :)
01:02 <Legacy> thanks
01:02 <Legacy> ok now back to the voting, it still says that there are too few voters online
01:02 <Legacy> so it rejects it
01:03 <epsy> hmm
01:03 <epsy> i'll try to make a workaround for this
01:03 <Legacy> ok
01:03 <Legacy> hey
01:04 <epsy> currently you just have to use newer clients
01:04 <Legacy> btw how do i make someone a moderator instead of OWNER
01:04 <Legacy> i have a newer client
01:04 <Legacy> i am using the 3.0
01:04 <epsy> 0.3 ?
01:04 <epsy> the thing that was released in 2006 ?
01:04 <epsy> is that any new? :)
01:05 <Legacy> lol xD
01:05 <Legacy> the one with the map at the side?
01:05 <epsy> yeah
01:05 <Legacy> xD that was released in 2006?!?!
01:05 <Legacy> rofl
01:05 <Legacy> dayum
01:05 <Legacy> ok then, ill brb and get the other version
01:06 <epsy> i'll get you the link
01:06 <epsy> second
01:06 <Legacy> ok
01:06 <epsy> it's on beta.armagetronad.net
01:06 <Legacy> yeah
01:06 <epsy> but it seems to be uberslow for me right now
01:07 <Legacy> so the 0.2.8 is the one i need?
01:07 <Legacy> i thought 0.3 was the newest
01:07 <Legacy> xD
01:07 <epsy> there are newer builds in the 0.3 branch as well
01:07 <Legacy> yeah, thats the one i have
01:07 <Legacy> so the voting should still work right?
01:07 <epsy> which have all the cutting-edge stuff :)
01:07 <epsy> Legacy, date?
01:07 <epsy> check in the main menu
01:08 <epsy> the build date is normally shown in dev. builds
01:08 <Legacy> dont see it
01:08 <Legacy> in the main tron folder?
01:08 <epsy> ?
01:09 <epsy> in-game
01:09 <epsy> in the main menu
01:09 <Legacy> in the game screen i see 0.3.x experimental
01:09 <epsy> is there a non-formatted date?
01:09 <Legacy> no
01:09 <Legacy> i see no date
01:09 <epsy> me neither..lol
01:09 <Legacy> i got it from beta.armagetronad.net
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01:09 <epsy> can you reach the beta site?
01:10 <Legacy> yes
01:10 <epsy> ok, then find again the package you downloaded
01:10 <epsy> and look the dates
01:10 <epsy> i know there's a better way to be sure of it
01:10 <epsy> blah
01:12 <Legacy> doesnt say a date like it does on the 0.2.8
01:12 <Legacy> it just says 3.0
01:12 <Legacy> and when i try to download i get a dns error
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01:21 <epsy> wb
01:21 <Legacy> sorry epsy, lol disconnected
01:21 <Legacy> xD
01:21 <Legacy> Thanks!
01:21 <epsy> closed tab, i guess
01:22 <epsy> happens often when you use a web client
01:22 <epsy> :P
01:22 <Legacy> about the moderation USER_LEVEL namehere@forums 1?
01:22 <Legacy> lol yeah
01:22 <epsy> yeah, that would be Administrator
01:22 <Legacy> same as mod?
01:22 <epsy> nope
01:22 <Legacy> oh
01:23 <Legacy> 0 is owner right?
01:23 <epsy> has access to basically all settings, except those which control one's right
01:23 <Legacy> oh
01:23 <Legacy> so for a moderator to be able to ban a member, kick a member, etc, what should the level be?
01:23 <epsy> Moderator is 2
01:24 <epsy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/annotate/874?file_id=7723%407d95bf1e-0414-0410-9756-b78462a59f44%3Aarmagetronad%252Fbranches%252F0.2.8%252Farmagetronad%3Aconfig%252Fsettings_authentication.cfg
01:24 <epsy> see from line 117
01:26 <Legacy> thanks :)
01:28 <Legacy> So have you figured out what is wrong witht the voting yet?
01:29 <epsy> i know what is wrong with it
01:29 <epsy> old clients dont always get the right "Poll ID" for some reason
01:30 <epsy> (don't ask me why)
01:30 <epsy> the workaround would be to give them a chat interface
01:34 <Legacy> hey mr epsy
01:34 <Legacy> i got it
01:34 <Legacy> you have to login to get it
01:34 <epsy> mister epsy :o
01:34 <Legacy> LMAO!
01:34 <epsy> to get what?
01:35 <Legacy> to get to vote
01:35 <Legacy> i loged in and voted and it worked
01:35 <Legacy> no error
01:35 <epsy> yeah but you probably have a new client :P
01:35 <Legacy> but!  how do i get it where when a person enters the room, they are logged in as program?
01:35 <Legacy> because obviously to vote, you have to be logged in
01:36 <epsy> obviously?
01:36 <Legacy> LOL!
01:38 <Legacy> ok epsy, when a new match starts it reverts back to regular settings
01:38 <Legacy> people voted for df
01:38 <Legacy> and then it changed back to hr next round
01:38 <epsy> wtf?!
01:38 <Legacy> i still have settings in the settings_custom on the web site that luke has
01:38 <Legacy> should i make that empty?
01:39 <epsy> no..
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01:43 <epsy> i don't know of any config file that loads each match
01:43 <Legacy> Hmm
01:44 <Legacy> currently i have HR settings in the settings_custom on lukes site
01:44 <Legacy> that makes since
01:44 <Legacy> so isn't there a code like if include df.cfg
01:45 <epsy> there is no everytime.cfg config, right?
01:45 <epsy> s/config/file/
01:46 <Legacy> yes
01:46 <Legacy> there is an everytime
01:46 <Legacy> delete whats in there?
01:47 <Legacy> i have the hr settings in there too
01:47 <epsy> what's in it?
01:47 <epsy> ah
01:47 <epsy> remove it
01:47 <Legacy> kk
01:47 <epsy> this file is run every round
01:47 <Legacy> say You can change to Dog Fight Settings And HR settings now!  Learn how to by typing /help vote
01:47 <Legacy> thats all i have left in there
01:48 <epsy> yeah, perfect
01:48 <Legacy> lol YOU LEFT
01:48 <Legacy> as soon as i came in
01:48 <Legacy> xD
01:49 <epsy> lol
01:49 <Legacy> sucka
01:49 <epsy> wasnt really there anyway
01:49 <Legacy> oh :/
01:49 <Legacy> ok so now im going to vote and see what it does
01:49 <Legacy> Can you go back and submit a vote?
01:49 <Legacy> i want to see if i can vote on it
01:49 <epsy> there's plenty of guys in there :p
01:50 <epsy> they can do the /callvote part
01:50 <Legacy> but they dont know how!
01:50 <Legacy> LOL
01:50 <epsy> just tell one in PM to say /vote include df.cfg
01:50 <epsy> one that will want to play df, heh
01:50 <epsy> right , i'm off to bed
01:50 <Legacy> when i submit a vote, does it show up like it does when you poll a player?
01:50 <epsy> gnite
01:50 <epsy> yes
01:50 <Legacy> aww ok mate, thanks!
01:51 <epsy> except for old clients ;/
01:53 <Legacy> xD
01:53 <Legacy> cya bud!
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02:53 <luke-jr> ]later tell epsy wtf is with this @g crap?
02:53 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:55 <Flex> luke-jr
02:55 <Flex> hello
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03:52 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: LOL it really does depend if you create it and someone else finds it the probably won't find your bug anyway
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04:14 <ct|kyle> but Monkey_arma i still filed a bug that i was only having with pidgin and they told me to file it
04:24 <hoax> isn't @g tanks new authority
04:24 <hoax> or what he had planned
04:26 <ct|kyle> what?
04:27 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle ?
04:27 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: ?
04:28 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: i did not feel like posting a reply to http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=198839#198839
04:28 <Monkey_arma> LOL it really does depend if you create it and someone else finds it the probably won't find your bug anyway
04:28 <Monkey_arma> ???
04:29 <ct|kyle> no i don't think someone else will find your bug report if they get the bug
04:29 <ct|kyle> just my opinion
04:29 <ct|kyle> well
04:29 <ct|kyle> for bigger projects anyway
04:30 <ct|kyle> but for something like tron i think they would find it
04:30 <Monkey_arma> ah i see
04:30 <Monkey_arma> all bugs should be tracked IMO
04:31 <Monkey_arma> if you have lots of bugs, stop adding new features and go bug hunting
04:32 <ct|kyle> I really liked KDE bug reports
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04:32 <ct|kyle> they were always on it fixing them as fast as they came in
04:33 <Lama9> hey kyle :)
04:33 <ct|kyle> oi
04:33 <Lama9> Kyle, do you have a list of all the new 3.0 commands?
04:33 <ct|kyle> alpha ?
04:33 <luke-jr> there is NO SUCH THING AS 3.0
04:33 <ct|kyle> true that
04:34 <Lama9> ah... HAHA 0.3 0.3!!!!
04:34 <Lama9> LOL!
04:34 <Lama9> sry dude
04:34 <luke-jr> 0.3.0 is 2 years old!
04:34 <ct|kyle> search the wiki for
04:34 <Lama9> i know, i just don't like 0.3.0 3.0 is easier
04:34 <ct|kyle> #aawiki console_commands
04:34 <luke-jr> Lama9: at least say .3.0
04:34 <Lama9> kk thanks dude
04:34 <ct|kyle> err
04:35 <Lama9> Do you know all of the commands luke?  Or where i can find em?
04:35 <Lama9> wiki doesnt have any, i searched it earlier
04:35 <luke-jr> nope
04:35 <ct|kyle> yes it does
04:35 <Lama9> :o
04:35 <Lama9> you sure?
04:35 <Lama9> link me?
04:35 <ct|kyle> its page title is console_commands
04:35 <luke-jr> he just tried to
04:35 <luke-jr> but armabot is missing still
04:36 <ct|kyle> ya
04:36 <ct|kyle> :(
04:36 <Lama9> oh :(
04:36 <ct|kyle> .aawiki
04:36 <tronner> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=
04:36 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: add the alias to ljrbot if you can find it
04:36 <luke-jr> ]help aawiki
04:36 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: There is no command "aawiki".
04:36 <luke-jr> .help aawiki
04:36 <tronner> luke-jr: (aawiki <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=@1".
04:36 <ct|kyle> .aawiki console_commands
04:36 <tronner> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=console_commands
04:36 <ct|kyle> there
04:36 <luke-jr> ]alias add aawiki echo http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=@1
04:36 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:36 <luke-jr> ]help aaconfig
04:36 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: There is no command "aaconfig".
04:36 <Lama9> xD
04:36 <luke-jr> ]help armaconfig
04:36 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: There is no command "armaconfig".
04:36 <luke-jr> .help armaconfig
04:36 <tronner> luke-jr: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
04:36 <ct|kyle> .help cfg
04:36 <tronner> ct|kyle: (cfg <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaconfig $*".
04:36 <ct|kyle> .help cfg2
04:36 <luke-jr> ]alias add armaconfig rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1
04:36 <tronner> ct|kyle: (cfg2 <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
04:36 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:37 <luke-jr> ]armaconfig foo
04:37 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "rss" is not a valid command.
04:37 <luke-jr> ]load RSS
04:37 <ct|kyle> that is ct+sty commands
04:37 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:37 <luke-jr> ]alias add armaconfig rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1
04:37 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:37 <ct|kyle> the cfg2
04:37 <luke-jr> ]armaconfig foo
04:37 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Sorry, no matches :S
04:37 <luke-jr> ]armaconfig acl
04:37 <ljrbot> luke-jr: CAMERA_SMART_HEIGHT_OBSTACLE: UNDOCUMENTED || CASACL: For the duratioon of the rest of the configuration file thiss directive appears in, elevate the access level.
04:37 <luke-jr> wtf
04:37 <luke-jr> typos
04:38 <ct|kyle> you may want to stick to wrtl's for now
04:38 <ct|kyle> ours has no default valuses
04:39 <ct|kyle> Lama9:
04:39 <ct|kyle> .aawiki Console_Commands
04:39 <tronner> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Console_Commands
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05:39 <ivantis> @help calc
05:39 <teabot> ivantis: (calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>.
05:39 <ivantis> @calc the number of seconds durka can stay on irc
05:39 <teabot> ivantis: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
05:39 <ivantis> @calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc
05:39 <teabot> ivantis: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
05:39 <ivantis> lame
05:40 <ivantis> @cfg2 cascal
05:40 <ivantis> @cfg cascal
05:40 <ivantis> @help cfg
05:40 <teabot> ivantis: Error: There is no command "cfg".
05:40 <ivantis> @help cfg2
05:40 <teabot> ivantis: Error: There is no command "cfg2".
05:40 <ivantis> @list alias
05:40 <teabot> ivantis: monologue, 8ball, action, add, aka, armaservers, bzr, calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc, cctld, date, g, google, lastseen, lock, logs, lp, ls, lukejrwork, man, moar, night, noob, onlineplayers, onlineservers, rape, remove, replace, rot1, sd, serverdetails, serverscores, si, ss, tea, unlock, what, and wtf
05:40 <ivantis> hello
05:40 <luke-jr> @calc ivantis's brain capacity
05:40 <teabot> luke-jr: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
05:40 <ivantis> its too high of a number for it to handle
05:40 <ct|kyle> @calc the answer to life the universe and everything
05:40 <teabot> ct|kyle: the answer to life the universe and everything = 42
05:40 <ct|kyle> :)
05:41 <ivantis> who owns 42.pl????
05:41 <ivantis> @help rot1
05:41 <ct|kyle> donno
05:41 <teabot> ivantis: (rot1 <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "translate abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ bcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzaBCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZA $*".
05:41 <ivantis> @rot1 hi
05:41 <teabot> ivantis: ij
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05:41 <ivantis> @rot1 wtf?
05:41 <teabot> ivantis: xug?
05:42 <ivantis> kind of like caesar
05:42 <ivantis> and rot13
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05:42 <ct|kyle> @rot13 hey
05:42 <teabot> ct|kyle: url
05:42 <ct|kyle> lol
05:42 <ct|kyle> @rot9 hi
05:42 <ivantis> that was a fun 4 1/2 hour party i just got back from
05:42 <ct|kyle> :P
05:43 <ivantis> it kind of stunk, i was the only guy there
05:43 <ivantis> http://42.pl
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06:02 <ivantis> luke-jr: did you get the CTCP i just sent you?
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06:14 <hoax> ivantis
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16:38 <ivantis> hoax: yes?
16:39 <ivantis> oh
16:39 <ivantis> hes gone
16:39 <ivantis> /server mail new
16:39 <ivantis> luke-jr: it didnt work
16:39 <ivantis> /server mail
16:39 <ivantis> it must be broken
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16:51 <Legz> yo, is epsy here yet?
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17:44 <Legacy> Hey guys
17:45 <Legacy> Does anyone know what CASACL is and its functions?
17:45 <ivantis> no
17:45 <ivantis> no one does
17:49 <ivantis> [0] Usage: CASACL <required access level> <elevated access level>
17:49 <ivantis> [0] Current config file/stream loading was aborted by command CASACL.
17:49 <ivantis> is what it says for me
17:51 <Legacy> yeah me too
17:52 <Legacy> ivantis, do you know how to set up the voting for multi mode?
17:52 <ivantis> no idea
17:52 <Legacy> :/
17:52 <ivantis> i think maybe manta did that himself
17:52 <ivantis> (his own hack)
17:53 <ivantis> maybe
17:53 <Legacy> Durka set it up yesterday for tr's server
17:53 <Legacy> I almost have mine done
17:53 <ivantis> oh
17:53 <ivantis> what package?
17:53 <Legacy> I just don't have the voting stuff set up
17:53 <ivantis> 0.2.8+sty?
17:53 <Legacy> 0.2.8 with auth compiled
17:53 <ivantis> oh
17:54 <Legacy> Apparently, from what epsy says, you need to have auth with it
17:54 <Legacy> CASACL 2 0
17:54 <Legacy> Thats what epsy told me to put
17:55 <ivantis> did you?
17:55 <Legacy> Yes.  But when it changes to game type dog fight from high rubber, it stops working.  It says poll rejected by server admin
17:56 <Legacy> I also put MIN_VOTE 0
17:56 <ivantis> you probably have some other CASACL settings in your dog fight.cfg file
17:56 <Legacy> No, they are the same, i checked.
17:56 <ivantis> odd
17:56 <ivantis> well, i g2g
17:56 <Legacy> Indeed.  cya.
17:57 <Monkey_arma> .cfg2 CASACL
17:57 <tronner> Monkey_arma: CASACL: For the duratioon of the rest of the configuration file thiss directive appears in, elevate the access level.
17:57 <Legacy> Hey monkey :D
17:57 <Monkey_arma> hi
17:57 <Legacy> So, what does that mean?
17:58 <Monkey_arma> idk
17:58 <Legacy> lol
17:58 <Monkey_arma> and thats not a good way to do it also
17:58 <Legacy> How would you do it?
17:58 <Monkey_arma> for the rest of file wtf
17:58 <Legacy> lolol
17:58 <Monkey_arma> i mean that command is not good
17:58 <Legacy> I know, i wonder why epsy gave it to me?
17:59 <Monkey_arma> idk
18:00 <Monkey_arma> One of Armas downfalls (as with most open projects) is shit docs
18:00 <Legacy> Youve played in the Ww Multi server right?
18:00 <Monkey_arma> ye
18:00 <Monkey_arma> Can you not just write a script>?
18:01 <Legacy> No.
18:01 <Legacy> It's easier than that.
18:02 <Legacy> Simple commands can fix what is wrong, but i don't know how to include them the right way.
18:02 <Legacy> I'll get Durka to help when he gets on, he did the tr server multi mode
18:03 <Monkey_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Server_Administration_Guide#Voting
18:09 <Monkey_arma> I am using latest 0.2.8_alpha. I cant see any console options for multimode or voting
18:11 <Monkey_arma> The only possible thing I can see is VOTE_USE_SERVER_CONTROLLED_KICK but that would be using it for something it was not designed for.
18:12 <Legacy> H mm
18:12 <Legacy> The problem i am having is this CASACL if i knew what that did, i could get it to work
18:13 <Legacy> When i log in to the server as admin, i can then vote and it changes
18:13 <Monkey_arma> according to cfg2 it seems to increase the access level for the rest of the commands in the file
18:14 <Monkey_arma> im not sure exactly what that means..its ambiguos
18:16 <Legacy> Do you know what the number is for remote user?
18:18 <Monkey_arma> normally 19 i think
18:18 <Monkey_arma> there is a list wait a sec
18:18 <Legacy> i know, i tried googling it, but i can't find it
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18:24 <Legacy> When i vote as a remote user it says:  Only users of access level Moderator or Higher
18:24 <Legacy> THERE HE IS!
18:24  * Legacy is relieved
18:25 <Legacy> yo epsy, maybe you can help me
18:26 <Legacy> ok, i am still working on this multi mode setting.  When i vote as a remote user, the error is Only users of access Moderator or Higher will recieve the output
18:27 <epsy> ?
18:28 <epsy> luke-jr, for some reason @google always gets the @google from the Google plugin and not from the QGoogle one
18:28 <Legacy> explain to me what CASACL is and does.  When i put CASACL 2 0 like you told me to do yesterday, i can vote, but i have to be access level owner
18:28 <epsy> waqit wait what
18:29 <Legacy> Do you know of a way to have it where all users can vote on the gameplay type?
18:29 <Legacy> Right now, you have to be owner or moderator to vote
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18:43 <Legacy> What happened to me oping you epsy?  I restarted so i could get my owner access back ><
18:44 <epsy> well, by default you need to be of at least access level Team Leader to op someone
18:44 <epsy> you were Remote user
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18:46 <Legacy5> I did USER_LEVEL -=VcL.Rogue@forums 0 in server_info and its still making me remote user ><
18:46 <epsy> look at how it looks when you log in
18:47 <Legacy5> ?
18:47 <epsy> one of the characters in -=VcL.Rogue might need to be escaped
18:47 <Legacy5> Everything is exact.
18:47 <Legacy5> what is your login and ill put you in there
18:48 <epsy> epsy@forums
18:48 <Legacy5> k
18:48 <Legacy5> done
18:51 <Legacy5> lol @ me still remote user
18:52 <epsy> uhm, i dont find the server anymore
18:53 <Legacy5> Hmm...
18:55 <Legacy5> k...its back
19:06 <Monkey_arma> Legacy5 are you rogue?
19:06 <epsy> yes he is
19:06 <Monkey_arma> The one that used to play goshdarn?
19:06  * epsy doesnt know :)
19:06 <Monkey_arma> He was top of goshdarn board I think.
19:07 <Monkey_arma> Not that I played the original..just the clone
19:07 <Monkey_arma> Rogue you registered your clan tag????
19:07 <Monkey_arma> my advise would be to register just your name
19:17 <Legacy5> LOL yes monkey ARMAGOSHDARN!
19:20 <epsy> Legacy5, in-game
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19:27 <Monkey_arma> ALLOW_IMPOSTERS, ALLOW_IMPOSTORS --- wtf?
19:27 <ct|kyle> Flex: PING
19:27 <epsy> Monkey_arma, :)
19:28 <Flex> ct|kyle, PING
19:29 <ct|kyle> Flex: my MSN problem is Microsoft
19:29 <ct|kyle> the blocked my account
19:29 <Flex> lol, really
19:29 <Flex> how/why?
19:29 <ct|kyle> i donno
19:29 <epsy> lol
19:29 <ct|kyle> i better update my pidgin bug
19:29 <epsy> upgrade pidgin perhaps :p
19:29 <ct|kyle> i am on latest
19:30 <xfroggy> they blocked ur account cuz u using Open Source and they were afraid you were a spy >.>
19:30 <ct|kyle> release
19:30 <Flex> you sure your account never expired?
19:30 <ct|kyle> i can still check my mail
19:31 <Flex> oh yeah.. har har ct|kyle uses @msn.com
19:31 <Flex> !
19:31  * xfroggy renames ct|kyle to You, Fuck
19:31 <xfroggy> :D
19:31 <ct|kyle> lol
19:31 <Flex> i want an @msn.com :-(
19:31 <ct|kyle> Flex: my new one is @hotmail.com
19:32 <ct|kyle> same name as before
19:32 <Flex> why don't you use gmail and just create a live.com account with it
19:32 <Flex> then you can login on msn fine
19:32 <Flex> passport.net or something
19:32 <ct|kyle> i probably won't be using MSN anymore
19:32 <ct|kyle> after seeing what the fucking do, i don't think i can use it anymore
19:33 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle you should have realised that a long time ago
19:33 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: i did, but i never thought they would do something like that
19:33 <Flex> where does it say you've been banned/blocked exactly?
19:34 <ct|kyle> it does not
19:34 <ct|kyle> i got a hotmail account and it works just fine
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19:34 <Flex> so you just can't login to messenger with it?
19:35 <ct|kyle> i can't with my @msn.com
19:35 <ct|kyle> but with my @hotmail.com i can
19:36 <Flex> how comes you can't with @msn.com
19:36 <ct|kyle> Because microsoft is shit
19:37 <epsy> did you try downgrading?
19:37 <epsy> xD
19:37 <Flex> downgrading?
19:37 <epsy> to pidgin 2.4.3
19:37 <ct|kyle> this happened before i was torrenting 3 days strait
19:37 <Flex> i think msn changed it's shit.. that's why pidgin upgraded?
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19:37 <ct|kyle> it started with 2.4.3
19:37 <Rogue> Back!
19:38 <Rogue> whats up kyle
19:38 <epsy> Flex, no, the pidgin project really aint aimed at MSN
19:38 <ct|kyle> Microsoft is shit
19:38 <epsy> ct|kyle, XMPP!
19:38 <Rogue> pidgin is ftw!
19:38 <Rogue> GAIM
19:38 <Flex> epsy, what client do you use for xmpp
19:38 <epsy> pidgin sucks, but it's the best ><
19:38 <Rogue> xD
19:38 <epsy> pidgin
19:38 <Flex> weak
19:38 <ct|kyle> Flex, epsy they looked into my sso key and it was valid it was MS not allowing me to connect
19:38 <Rogue> yo epsy, what did you bring me here for?
19:38 <Rogue> a link?
19:39 <epsy> trough i did not setup transports and such with it
19:39 <Flex> ct|kyle, what's the error/message not allowing you to connect
19:39 <Rogue> epsy, give me a good color code for my server name, the one i put has that damn white bg on it
19:39 <epsy> 0xRESETT
19:39 <Flex> does any msn version work properly on wine?
19:39 <Rogue> lmao thats a real color hex?
19:39 <epsy> probably old version only
19:40 <epsy> Rogue, yes
19:40 <Monkey_arma> Rogue that resets it to default
19:40 <epsy> Rogue, it's the unique exception
19:40 <Rogue> xD
19:40 <Rogue> epsy where's that link?
19:40 <epsy> well, it's not hex at all :P
19:40 <epsy> Rogue, ya ya
19:40 <Rogue> Monkey you played armagoshdarn????
19:40 <epsy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/files/874?file_id=4612%407d95bf1e-0414-0410-9756-b78462a59f44%3Aarmagetronad%252Fbranches%252F0.2.8%252Farmagetronad%3Aconfig%252Fexamples%252Fcvs_test
19:40 <Monkey_arma> I played the clone only
19:40 <Lucifer> Monkey wasn't around when armagoshdarn was
19:40 <Flex> there's like some connection dignostic in Windows Live Messenger.. so maybe tried looking at the ports ct|kyle? unless you can connect fine with another account, then it isn't connection related..
19:41 <epsy> guru3, Lucifer: ok for teabot showing link titles?
19:41  * Lucifer doesn't care
19:41  * Lucifer isn't around much right now, though, heh
19:41 <epsy> heh
19:41 <guru3> i don't care either
19:41 <epsy> Flex, WLM did not want to install on wine
19:42 <Rogue> aww
19:42 <Flex> WLM isn't even on Windows XP/Vista 64 lol
19:42 <ct|kyle> Flex: i said i can connect fine with other account
19:42 <Rogue> I used to pwn armagoshdarn xD
19:42 <Flex> they don't support their own OS, lol
19:42 <Rogue> eppppssy i want a valid hex value plz
19:42 <Rogue> lol
19:42 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle MS owns u
19:43 <ct|kyle> LOL
19:43 <epsy> Rogue, pick a basic imaging tool
19:43 <epsy> click the color picker
19:43 <epsy> and look :P
19:43 <Flex> orrr googogogogle
19:43 <ct|kyle> i wonder if it was because i was bashing NASCAR in fox sports board's LOL
19:43 <Flex> haha
19:44 <Flex> NASCAR, Fox, MSN. don't fuck with those guys..
19:44 <epsy> Rogue, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/annotate/874?file_id=tcolor.cpp-20080317203435-j4cud30xnjr4uwdj-1
19:44 <teabot> Title: ~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work : contents of /src/tools/tColor.cpp at revision 874 (at bazaar.launchpad.net)
19:45 <epsy> Rogue, line 157
19:45 <epsy> (at the end of the file)
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19:45 <epsy> Rogue, static REAL sr_minR = .5, sr_minG = .5, sr_minB =.5, sr_minTotal = .7;
19:45 <epsy> Rogue, note that it is on a scale from 0 to 1, and not anything else
19:46 <Rogue> epsy, go to the server and lets see if sumo works
19:46 <Rogue> wont let me vote with just me there
19:46 <epsy> use /admin include vote/file
19:46 <Rogue> k
19:51 <Rogue> later epsy, Monkay, kyle.  Going to work :P
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19:57 <teabot> armabugs: [263054] spectators dont get a message saying they can't vote
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19:58 <Program4> yo epsy, whats default map name?
19:58 <epsy> hi freako
19:58 <Program4> lol
20:00 <epsy> Anonymous/polygon/regular/square -something like that
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20:04 <epsy> #define DEFAULT_MAP "Anonymous/polygon/regular/square-1.0.1.aamap.xml"
20:05 <Program4> LOL epsy
20:05 <Program4> Now when a person plays HR, the last one isnt killed
20:05 <epsy> whats is so funny?
20:06 <Program4> they have to suicide for a new match
20:06 <epsy> switching from sumo?
20:06 <Program4> Game_type 1 right?
20:06 <epsy> yes
20:06 <Program4> yeah
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22:13 <ivantis_> hello!
22:13 <ivantis_> anything happen while i was gone?
22:16 <Monkey_arma> ivantis omg you missed some serious shit
22:16 <Flex> yeah man..
22:16 <epsy> everybody died
22:16 <ivantis_> glad i keep my own armalogs then
22:16 <Flex> but some dude came in and resurrected us all
22:16 <epsy> yeah, merlin is back
22:16 <Monkey_arma> we all got transferred to another channel, so it wont be logged
22:16 <Monkey_arma> called a chansplit
22:17 <epsy> he approved armagetron advanced as the official continueation of the universe
22:17 <ivantis_> bummer dudes
22:17 <ivantis_> but anway,
22:17 <ivantis_> are there any high school courses for C++?
22:18 <ivantis_> these books are unreadable
22:18 <epsy> hacking here and there
22:18 <Monkey_arma> books suck i do agree
22:18 <Monkey_arma> ask in #C++ like i told u for easy to learn guide
22:18 <Flex> try checking your local college for enrollments
22:19 <ivantis_> KU
22:19 <epsy> Monkey_arma, no! read the channel topic first
22:19 <ivantis_> is my local college
22:19 <Monkey_arma> oh shit, happy birthday guru3 !
22:19 <ivantis_> i was there when the new topic was set
22:19 <ivantis_> unlike some people
22:19 <epsy> no, the topic in ##c++ ><
22:24 <Flex> it's guru3's birthday?
22:24 <Flex> how old is he now?
22:24 <Flex> 73?
22:26 <Monkey_arma> can't u read?
22:26 <Monkey_arma> It says in the title
22:28 <epsy> Monkey_arma, same thing applies to you in ##C++ :P
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22:30 <Monkey_arma> i did epsy
22:31 <Monkey_arma> but other links would be nice too for him
22:31 <Monkey_arma> hi Liza_
22:31 <epsy> best is that he starts hacking some code
22:31 <epsy> well, it's what he's already doing anyway
22:31 <Monkey_arma> no no no
22:31 <Monkey_arma> best to learn to do good code then to program
22:32 <Monkey_arma> thats why im not coding yet for one
22:32 <epsy> you can't learn like boom to start coding using well written exceptions and objects, all that in a modular way
22:32 <Monkey_arma> although i know to some extent
22:33 <Monkey_arma> its harder to learn the technical shit than it is to learn good practice from bad
22:33 <ivantis_> Don't go around saying the world owes you a living.  The world owes you
22:33 <ivantis_> nothing, it was here first.
22:33 <ivantis_> --Mark Twain
22:33 <ivantis_> that was my fortune
22:33 <epsy> ivantis_, that's true, so stfu now
22:33 <epsy> :D
22:33 <ivantis_> now when i login to a shell prompt or SSH, it gives me a fortune
22:33 <epsy> i used to have that
22:34 <epsy> never ever read it
22:34 <ivantis_> i love reading it
22:34 <epsy> it was just using space in my terms so i ended up removing it
22:35 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: PING
22:36 <ivantis_> pong
22:36 <ivantis_> ping
22:36 <ivantis_> hello
22:36 <ct|kyle> not you fool
22:36 <ivantis_> guess kor isnt here anymore
22:36 <epsy> bannt
22:36 <guru3> Flex: it was something missed in the lack of topic change of the last year
22:36 <Flex> oh.. it's not your birthday?
22:36 <guru3> no
22:36 <guru3> but sometime in the last year it was
22:37 <epsy> and it's still not arma's 10th bday
22:37 <Flex> i thought i was older than you :(
22:37 <ivantis_> nothing much happened while i was gone
22:37 <ivantis_> i checked the new armalogs
22:37 <epsy> that's because you weren't here to log it
22:38 <ivantis_> ivantis(without the _) was here the whole time
22:38 <ivantis_> i was gone
22:38 <epsy> ah right
22:38 <epsy> we are invaded by ivantisses
22:38 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle Pong
22:39 <ivantis_> ]ping
22:39 <ljrbot> pong
22:39 <ivantis_> ]ding
22:39 <ljrbot> ivantis_: Error: "ding" is not a valid command.
22:39 <ivantis_> @ding
22:39 <guru3> how many people here have an account they use for authentication?
22:39  * ivantis_ does
22:39  * Monkey_arma !
22:39 <epsy> i have..but..not really
22:40 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: i guess bug reports that you can't duplicate really can be effective
22:40 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/6723
22:40 <teabot> Title: #6723 (Cannot Connect to MSN) – Pidgin – Trac (at developer.pidgin.im)
22:40 <Monkey_arma> yes they sure can
22:40 <ct|kyle> that is my MSN bug report, they are going to add the error code as an account suspended
22:41 <Monkey_arma> heh
22:42 <Monkey_arma> so they will see if it happens to others?
22:42 <Monkey_arma> so was it a bug after all or just MS being *%&*^ers?
22:43 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle
22:43 <epsy> guru3, what about it?
22:43 <guru3> well i'll want someone to test the http-auth-client shortly
22:45 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle oh you mean that they have added the error code so that others will know it means suspended account
22:46 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: yes
22:46 <Monkey_arma> well there you go...
22:47 <ct|kyle> i'll vote now, since i know some of the weirdest bugs still can have a fix.
22:47 <epsy> vote?
22:47 <ct|kyle> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18663
22:47 <teabot> Title: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Rant: Reporting bugs that you can't reproduce (at forums.armagetronad.net)
22:49 <epsy> i thought you were talkin about the pidging tracker
22:49 <epsy> heh
22:50 <ct|kyle> lol
22:54 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit []
22:56 <Flex> but seriously.. why use pidgin? someone said that shit looks like some 12 year old designed it for 7year olds.. so true
22:57 <ct|kyle> i hack it
22:57 <ct|kyle> actually i get rid of the junk that makes it look like that
22:58 -!- yaknof [n=semoore_@blk-137-69-207.eastlink.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:59 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: server Browser feed is down in case you did not know
22:59 <yaknof> never fear, yaknof is here
23:00 <Monkey_arma> yaknof ereht ih
23:00 <yaknof> ih
23:08 <Ttech> Flex, x-Chat
23:08 <Ttech> ;)
23:09 <Flex> no, mIRC
23:09 <Flex> :p
23:09 <Ttech> mIRC fails
23:09 <Ttech> IRSSI is the bomb
23:09 <Ttech> :)
23:10 <Ttech> but Id go with X-Chat for a gui client
23:15 <Flex> on Windows, the best IRC client by far is mIRC, no doubt.
23:15 <epsy> xchat is
23:15 <xfroggy> mirc is
23:15 <epsy> xchat is
23:15 <Monkey_arma> i use irssi and xchat and xchat just beats irssi
23:16 <xfroggy> xchat fails on win
23:16 <epsy> mirc wins on fail
23:16 <xfroggy> fail epsy on mirc
23:16 <epsy> fail
23:16 <xfroggy> 404: epsy not found
23:16 <epsy> fail
23:17 <Flex> epsy xchat fail win on
23:17 <Monkey_arma> silverex.org on win
23:17 <epsy> foreign kicked his the OP bot xfroggy from lets is own only on himself channel by be who whole a freenode
23:18 <xfroggy> :S
23:18  * Flex slaps Ttech around a bit with a large trout
23:18 <Flex> for version'ing me!
23:18 <epsy> Flex trout bit slaps around Ttech large a with a
23:19 <ct|kyle> .slap xfroggy
23:19  * tronner slaps xfroggy around with the symbolic, chatting munchkin
23:19  * Monkey_arma goes to report a bug in epsy
23:19 <ivantis_> is wrtl here?
23:19 <epsy> munchkin around chatting xfroggy the slaps with tronner symbolic
23:19 <epsy> ivantis_, no, /whois wrtlprnft
23:20 <epsy> epsy Monkey_arma a in report goes to bug
23:20 <epsy> :D
23:23  * Monkey_arma goes in epsy to bug a report
23:23 <epsy> :(
23:24 -!- yaknof [n=semoore_@blk-137-69-207.eastlink.ca] has quit ["Wait..which way did she go?"]
23:25 <guru3> who's up for doing some testing for me?
23:26 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@55.188-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
23:26 <guru3> epsy: *prod*
23:27 <epsy> blah
23:27 <epsy> :P
23:27 <guru3> http://authentication.armagetronad.net/login/
23:27 <teabot> Title: http-auth-client (at authentication.armagetronad.net)
23:27 <guru3> login to your authority
23:27 <guru3> epsy: let's do that on request only
23:27 <guru3> (the teabot thing)
23:28 <epsy> @title http://authentication.armagetronad.net/login/
23:28 <teabot> epsy: http-auth-client
23:29 <epsy> a partial implementation of armaauth 0.1 in php and javascript
23:29 <epsy> logout
23:29 <guru3> what authority did you use?
23:29 <epsy> forums
23:29 <guru3> try it with an X one
23:30 <guru3> and one not on a root domain
23:30 <epsy> the only other one i have is out of root domain
23:30 <epsy> er
23:30 <guru3> well try the xclan one
23:30 <epsy> the box resets all the time when it's focused
23:31 <guru3> that might be a javascript bug
23:31 <guru3> doesn't quite do that here
23:31 <epsy> it hangs
23:32 <guru3> on the xclan one?
23:32 <epsy> epsy@fff.armagetron.co.uk/staff
23:33 <guru3> hmm
23:33 <guru3> that should work
23:33 <epsy> if you want an account there for testing ask me
23:33 <guru3> that might be handy
23:34 <epsy> register at http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/ then ask me to put you in the ff staff group
23:34 <epsy> fff*
23:35 <Flex> so what's up with wrtlprnft servers!
23:35 <Flex> server browsers are down
23:35 <epsy> first find out what's with wrtl
23:35 <guru3> epsy: created an account
23:36 <epsy> you're added
23:36 <Flex> so what's with him then?
23:36 <guru3> ok
23:36 <epsy> Flex, that server probably ran out of disk space i think
23:36 <epsy> Flex, i don't know
23:37 <ivantis_> jfdshjk43
23:37 <epsy> ivantis_, what site?
23:37 <Flex> username?
23:37 <ivantis_> m49ufds
23:37 <ivantis_> hold on
23:38 <epsy> ivantis_, spam-botter
23:39 -!- ilb [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
23:39 <ivantis_> aha
23:39 <ivantis_> my log-bot should have joined
23:39 <ivantis_> right now
23:39 <epsy> * ilb (n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com) a rejoint #armagetron
23:39 <epsy> ?
23:39 <ivantis_> yeah
23:39 <ivantis_> i cant see joins/parts in stupid mibbit
23:40  * ivantis_ is away from home
23:40 -!- hoax [n=hoax@unaffiliated/hoax] has joined #armagetron
23:40 -!- ilb [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:41 <epsy> ..lol
23:43 <ivantis_> did it come back?
23:43 <epsy> * ilb est parti (Remote closed the connection)
23:44 <ivantis_> hmm
23:44 -!- ilb [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
23:44 <ivantis_> is it back now?
23:44 <ct|kyle> @last --from wrtl --nolimit
23:44 <teabot> ct|kyle: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
23:45 -!- ilb [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:45 <epsy> * ilb (n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com) a rejoint #armagetron
23:45 <ct|kyle> @last --from wrtlprnft --nolimit
23:45 <teabot> ct|kyle: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
23:45 <epsy> * ilb est parti (Remote closed the connection)
23:45 <ivantis_> hold on...
23:45 <epsy> ct|kyle, /whois wrtlprnft
23:46 <ivantis_> now is it back?
23:46 <epsy> nope
23:47 <epsy> man, at least use pjirc
23:47 <Flex> 1000 messages? that's weak
23:48 <ct|kyle> epsy: ....
23:48 <epsy> Flex, do better
23:50 -!- ivantisss [i=479ed353@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fa9634795bbb756f] has joined #armagetron
23:54 -!- ilb_30 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
23:54 <ivantisss> aha
23:54 <ivantisss> now its working
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23:57 -!- sithy [n=sithy@lns-bzn-45-82-65-186-86.adsl.proxad.net] has quit ["This server sucks! I'm out of here!"]

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