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Log from 2008-07-24:
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00:20 <apparition> can someone fix my shit on the armagetron forums for me?
00:20 <apparition> my account is inactive
00:20 <Monkey_arma> LOL
00:21 <apparition> yeah, i know
00:21 <apparition> lol
00:24 <Monkey_arma> LOL
00:27 <apparition> the email i signed up with is deleted
00:27 <apparition> this is homo
00:28 <epsy> lol
00:28 <epsy> owned
00:29 <apparition> seriously
00:29 <apparition> fail
00:33 <Monkey_arma> LOL
00:33 <epsy> LOL
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04:57 <xfroggy_> xfroggy, go away
04:57 <luke-jr> ya
04:57 <luke-jr> stupid xfroggy_
04:58 <xfroggy_> Oo
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05:03 <Monkey_arma> xfroggy    /msg nickserv help ghost
05:03 <Monkey_arma> maybe you know that idk
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06:23 <Stewah> #weather 92037
06:23 <armabot> Stewah: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 69.1°F (9:20 PM PDT on July 23, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Rising).
06:23 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
06:23 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Fort Wayne, Indiana is 66.4°F (12:16 AM EDT on July 24, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Steady).
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09:20 <Pathetique> hmm, network problems on the server?
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09:54 <Pathetique> #cfg2 set_zone_position
09:54 <armabot> Pathetique: SET_ZONE_POSITION: set_zone_position_help
09:54 <Pathetique> ...
09:55 <kidanger> #t en fr empty
09:55 <armabot> kidanger: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
09:55 <kidanger> tho
09:56 <kidanger> Why does my edlog.txt is empty ?
09:57 <Pathetique> uhm, dunno
09:57 <kidanger> it's annoying
10:11 <Lucifer> ask ed, it's his log
10:12 <Pathetique> lolz
10:12 <Pathetique> I'm writing up some scripts for my armahacktron server...I'll have to show them to him when I finish.
10:12 <kidanger> ah ?
10:13 <Pathetique> Based off of an old FLower Power Sumo Assault script he gave me. :)
10:15 <kidanger> I try to do this: http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Running_a_Server#Random_Flying_Deathzones
10:16 <kidanger> Is there a cmd to activate edlog ? :s
10:17 <Pathetique> no idea
10:17 <Pathetique> LOL!
10:19 <Pathetique> #cfg2 SHOT_KILL_VANISH
10:19 <armabot> Pathetique: SHOT_KILL_VANISH: shot_kill_vanish_help
10:19 <Pathetique> ffs, they need to update their help entries
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10:35 <eddiefantastic> Pathetique: you're probably right ;) All the available help is here: http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Settings
10:35 <Pathetique> yaey
10:36 <eddiefantastic> that login rename stuff should be deleted from there now, that was before armathentication
10:38 <Pathetique> lol
10:39 <Pathetique> I want to thank you once again for giving me the script you used to use on Flower Power
10:39 <Pathetique> Its been an amazing help so far. :)
10:40 <Pathetique> I just have to follow the directions for running it. :D
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11:32 <Pathetique> dood
11:33 <Pathetique> nvm
11:33 <Pathetique> lolz
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11:50 <z-man> Goody, basic libxml2 compiles with only a minimum amount of errors.
11:51 <z-man> (For the wii, that is)
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11:58 <eddiefantastic> z-man: I have a wii with homebrew launcher installed if you want to help test anythin, when the time comes
11:58 <eddiefantastic> *homebrew channel I think it's acalled
11:58 <z-man> It is.
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12:37 <z-man> Yay, nanoftp and nanohtpp also compile with minimal wrappers.
12:38 <z-man> I hope it's no desaster that getsockopt and gethostname won't work.
12:38 <z-man> Now, what is trio.c?
12:38 <z-man> (Apart from the last c file with errors in it)
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12:48 <armabot> lpbugs: [251447] Ladder Duplicates with Authentication
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12:49 <K-Yo> eddiefantastic: you posted that?
12:49 <K-Yo> so taht's auth's fault?
12:52 <eddiefantastic> I didn't post the bug there, just confirmed someone elses findings on the forums
12:52 <eddiefantastic> I don't know if it's auth or not, never look at those files
12:53 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/doxy/html/gGame_8cpp-source.html#l03361
12:54 <epsy> :|
12:54 <epsy> should be GetUserName() here
12:54 <epsy> i guess the other faulty lines are just like this
12:55 <epsy> K-Yo, look in the top right corner on the bug report page :)
12:55 <K-Yo> er wait have to find it
12:55 <epsy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/251447
12:56 <K-Yo> Oh
12:56 <K-Yo> Log in / Register
12:56 <K-Yo> Of course, I'm stupid
12:56 <K-Yo> :P
12:56 <K-Yo> jk
12:56 <epsy> look down a little
12:56 <K-Yo> i saw ;)
12:58 <epsy> it's GetName hunting time :X
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13:11 <kidanger> epsy: tu sais pourquoi mon edlog.txt est vide ?
13:12 <epsy> qu'es-ce que tu utilise?
13:12 <kidanger> branche sty+ct compiler hier
13:12 <kidanger> compilé*
13:13 <epsy> ya rien dans ladderlog.txt ?
13:14 <kidanger> epsy: si après avoir mis 1 à une commande (comme *_ladder_log)
13:14 <kidanger> epsy: je cherche à faire ça: http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Running_a_Server#Random_Flying_Deathzones
13:17 <epsy> demande plutot a qqn qui connait ce code là
13:17 <kidanger> T'utilises quelle branche toi ?
13:18 <epsy> 0.2.8
13:18 <kidanger> ok, et tu fais encore des serveurs ?
13:19 <epsy> nn
13:19 <kidanger> Tu developpes ?
13:19 <epsy> oui
13:19 <kidanger> dac'
13:19 <epsy> bon ya x sumo aussi mais bon
13:20 <kidanger> mouais
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14:05 <StickyNoob> http://xkcd.com/453/ xkcd++ for tron jokes
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16:01 <Pathetique> hello :)
16:03 <StickyNoob> yo
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16:10 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8506 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Fixed some warnings.
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17:12 <Pathetique> 'lo flex
17:12 <Flex> hi
17:13 <Pathetique> Did you do any specific modifications to Liz's interface? Cause I want to know what cockpit file she uses.
17:13 <Pathetique> lol
17:13 <Flex> oh.. i thought she used v2..
17:14 <Flex> why though?
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17:25 <Flex> Pathetique, check out
17:26 <Flex> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/flex/EssentialRemix-0.3.0.aacockpit.xml
17:28 <Pathetique> very pretty
17:28 <Pathetique> I'm torn now between wrtl's and this one.
17:28 <Pathetique> lol
17:28 <Flex> http://www.zshare.net/image/14597955fe651791/
17:28 <Flex> i think you might be looking at v2 screenshot
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17:29 <Pathetique> (for some reason I want to call him wartortle, like the pokemon name)
17:30 <Pathetique> Hmm. If I were to use it I'd have to modify it to be all gradienty like wrtl's.
17:30 <Pathetique> I'm more color oriented than I am numerically oriented now cause of using wrtl's cockpit file
17:30 <Pathetique> lol
17:30 <Flex> wasn't so sure of different colours.. they distract me
17:31 <Flex> :p
17:31 <Pathetique> LOL!
17:31 <Pathetique> but uhm
17:31 <Pathetique> very nice work :)
17:32 <Flex> thanks :)
17:32 <Pathetique> and gasp, I realized I forgot to throw the u in colour...I know no one in the US does that lol
17:32 <Pathetique> Well, almost no one else
17:34 <Pathetique> The thing I love about having the widescreen display is that it allows me to have tons of space for things like what wrtl did...do you have a normal 4:3 monitor?
17:34 <Pathetique> I know of tons of people who would try to sumo with his cockpit file and would be like AAAAAAAAAAGH CAN'T SEE SHIT
17:35 <Flex> oh yeah.. yeah i do have a normal monitor.. i just prefer it like that :p
17:35 <Flex> and i think the time/fps label gets fucked up in fullscreen
17:35 <Flex> or is that just me..
17:35 <Pathetique> no, it did.
17:35 <Pathetique> That's the other thing I was going to tweak.
17:36 <Flex> yeah, i need to fix that
17:36 <Flex> nobody told me..
17:36 <Pathetique> lol
17:36 <Pathetique> You never play full screen?
17:36 <Flex> nope
17:36 <Pathetique> lol
17:36 <Pathetique> noob
17:36 <Pathetique> immersion ftw
17:36 <Flex> and i play with two fingers!
17:36 <Flex> beat that :p
17:37 <Pathetique> no doublebinding?
17:37 <Pathetique> evar?
17:38 <Flex> na i do
17:38 <Flex> i add an extra finger then :p
17:38 <Pathetique> lol
17:38 <Flex> but really.. you can still double bind with two fingers..
17:39 <Pathetique> I keep at least three from each hand down at a time unless I'm singlebinding with my arrow keys for whatever reason, whether it be I'm stuffing my face or holding the phone or whatever
17:39 <Flex> see the problem is
17:39 <Flex> 		<Position x="0.6" y="0.40" />
17:39 <Flex> works fine in fullscreen
17:40 <Flex> but as soon as it's not fullscreen and my resolution.. it's not at the corner but almost near the top centre..
17:40 <Pathetique> indeed
17:40 <Pathetique> I dunno.
17:40 <Pathetique> o.0
17:43 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/flex/essentialremix-0.3.1.aacockpit.xml: Resource by flex
17:43 <Pathetique> lolz
17:43 <Flex> there we go. :p
17:44  * Pathetique thinks you should stick with the same name for each revision so that it stays as one item
17:44 <Flex> yeah
17:45 <Pathetique> That is, of course, unless you're trying to make your folder look like it has more stuff in it lol
17:45 <Flex> but, can't decide which name suits it
17:45 <Pathetique> essentialRemix
17:45 <Flex> i'm going with no capitials this time.. the last were mistakes..
17:46 <Pathetique> it puts more significance on the remix part, stating that it is your modification to make things work smoother/better
17:49 <Flex> i hate my folder..
17:49 <Flex> it's so messy :(
17:49 <Pathetique> LOL!
17:49 <Flex> thanks a lot!
17:50 <Pathetique> I'm laughing at you being a neatfreak :)
17:51 <Flex> simplistic cockpit.. not so simplistic folder :(
17:51 <Pathetique> Perhaps you should make a new resource folder "Flex" and actually capitalize the name :P :)
17:52 <Flex> oh yeah..
17:52 <Flex> i forgot about that
17:52 <Pathetique> Then you could reupload your cockpits under the category "cockpit"
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17:52 <Pathetique> and reupload them under the same name
17:52 <Pathetique> lolol
17:52 <Flex> but i don't think luke-jr will like that :p
17:53 <Pathetique> meh
17:53 <Flex> plus.. two folders just because i forgot my capitial F and did my versions wrong ?:p
17:53 <Pathetique> (lukejr.notlong.com)
17:53 <Pathetique> ( lukejr.notlong.com )
17:53 <Pathetique> motherfucker
17:53 <Pathetique> ( http://lukejr.notlong.com )
17:54 <Pathetique> there we go.
17:54 <Pathetique> but uh, then just have him delete the old one.
17:54 <Flex> not possible..
17:54 <Pathetique> what isn't possible?
17:54 <Flex> not possible to delete.. as far as i was told
17:55 <Pathetique> o.o
17:55 <Pathetique> hm
17:56 <Pathetique> Well, I'm sure there's a way to do it.
17:56 <Pathetique> lolol
17:59 <Pathetique> iunno, you should be able to get it to happen somehow.
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18:02 <Lizmatic> pathetiiique!
18:02 <Lizmatic> sorted out the levels yet? :p
18:02 <Pathetique> lizmaaatic!
18:02 <Pathetique> no, I'm trying to do like 500 projects at once
18:03 <Pathetique> For that, I'd have to try and make my own auth level system
18:03 <Lizmatic> lool
18:03 <Pathetique> lol
18:03 <Lucifer> Pedro Zuniga, his wife and their six children fled their mobile home for the comparative safety of a relative's wood-frame house next door. That home's owner had already left to take shelter in another relative's brick house.  <--- sound like the 3 little pigs?
18:03 <Pathetique> so while I'm trying to make a scripted armahacktron server
18:03 <Pathetique> I'm also trying to compile armagetronad-tag
18:03 <Pathetique> and trying to learn C++
18:04 <Pathetique> and trying to write a cockpit file making tutorial for the dbd forums
18:04 <Pathetique> and a few other things
18:04 <Pathetique> all at once
18:04 <Pathetique> lolz
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18:05 <Pathetique> oh, and I'm trying to find a fraking job.
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18:11 <Pathetique> LOL!@ivantis: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18431 specifically on page 2
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18:20 <Lucifer> yeah, ivantis is the perfect example of why the US is turning into a third-rate power
18:20 <Pathetique> LOL!
18:21 <Flex> he's only 13..
18:21 <Lucifer> Flex: and he's already expecting to lay down and do nothing while everyone gives him what he wants?
18:22  * Lucifer could use sin, cos, and tan in computer code when he was 13 :)
18:22  * Flex was trying to install age of empires and play online at 13..
18:22  * Pathetique could write shitty looking web pages and nonfunctional javascript when he was 13.
18:23 <Flex> or i think i was playing floppy games on some system i can't remember the name of..
18:23  * K-Yo celebrated his bday when he got 13
18:23 <Pathetique> Apple IIgs?
18:24 <Lucifer> that's not the issue anyway, he's littered the forums with posts that say "Can somebody just do it for me?"
18:24  * Pathetique has one of those that still works, and still has the 5inch floppy disks for the games he had
18:25 <Lucifer> heh, when I was 13, online play meant a 1200 baud modem, and you had to call your friend first and arrange who was going to call whom with the modem
18:25 <Pathetique> LOL
18:25 <Pathetique> How many bauds fits in one kilobit?
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18:25 <Lucifer> I forget what baud is exactly, but it roughly corresponds (although isn't synonymous) with bits per second
18:26 <Pathetique> lol
18:26 -!- lynx1 is now known as lynx_rose
18:26 <Pathetique> nice
18:26 <Flex> Lucifer, he'll learn.. (i think)
18:27 <Lucifer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baud
18:27 <Flex> moment of expression and freedom.. don't kill his moment :p
18:27 <Pathetique> Indeed, he isn't a dumb kid. He did learn C++ from the source code of the game...that I find impressive.
18:27 <Lucifer> Flex: maybe *he* will, but the reason he's an example is because for every kid you meet like ivantis that learns, there's 4 out there that won't
18:28 <Pathetique> I see... Baud sortofkindofequals analog transmission.
18:29 <Pathetique> When compared to modern communication methods.*
18:29 <Pathetique> (emphasis on sortofkindof)
18:29 <Lucifer> hmm, not really
18:29 <Lucifer> the transmission is still analog, it kinda has to be :)
18:29 <Pathetique> lol
18:29 <Lucifer> think of it like this
18:29 <Lucifer> say you have a maximum potential of 5V on the circuit
18:29 <Pathetique> yes
18:30 <Lucifer> if you have 2V or less, that's logical 0, or off.  More than 2V is logical 1, or on
18:30 <Lucifer> in that setup, baud = bits per second
18:30 <Flex> what can you possibly play with that sort of bandwidth..
18:30 <Flex> chess?
18:30 <Pathetique> yes
18:30 <Pathetique> barely
18:30 <Lucifer> now say you have a maximum potential of 7V, and whatever the potential you set on your side is the integer of the number you send
18:30 <Lucifer> so if you make it 4.4V, you are sending the number 4
18:31 <Lucifer> you now have a range of numbers you can send in one pulse, from 0-7, so each pulse equals 8 bits
18:31 <Pathetique> ic
18:31 <Lucifer> baud refers to the number of pulses you send, and in this case 8*baud = bps
18:31 <Pathetique> ah
18:31 <Lucifer> er, I think I meant 4 bits
18:31 <Lucifer> but you get the idea
18:32 <Lucifer> 3 bits, heh
18:32 <Pathetique> yes
18:32 <Lucifer> my binary reading is a little borked right now ;)
18:32 <Pathetique> quantum data transmission? XP
18:32 <Pathetique> lol@icemans signature http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/iceman150m/sig/corrupted-data.gif
18:32 <Flex> lol
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18:34 <Pathetique> next jaguar_rose is going to be puma_rose?
18:34 <jaguar_rose> not sure
18:35 <Pathetique> then tiger_rose? and then leopard_rose?
18:35 <Pathetique> ;)
18:35 <jaguar_rose> depends on how it'll go on other channels
18:35 <jaguar_rose> I need to fight that "panthere_noire"
18:35 <jaguar_rose> means black_panthera
18:35 <Pathetique> lol
18:35 <Lucifer> he's a black panther?
18:36  * Pathetique was referring to the different versions of Mac OS X. ;)
18:36 <Lucifer> oh, I thought you were randomly picking cats
18:36 <Pathetique> LOL!
18:37 <Pathetique> I think that was the order
18:37 <Pathetique> lynx, jaguar, puma, tiger, and now leopard.
18:37 <Lucifer> coincidentally, those were the names of the first Hustler models
18:37 <Pathetique> Hustler?
18:37 <Pathetique> o.0
18:37 <Lucifer> pr0n mag
18:37 <Pathetique> ic
18:37 <Pathetique> LOL!
18:38 <Pathetique> btw, lucifer, nice interface on ACME
18:38 <Lucifer> thanks
18:39 <Lucifer> holy shit, someone else got it to run?!?!?  ;)
18:39 <Pathetique> no
18:39 <Pathetique> LOL
18:39 <Flex> lol
18:39 <Pathetique> just looking at screenshots
18:39 <Pathetique> sorry to get you excited :D
18:39 <Pathetique> That's the next step
18:40 <jaguar_rose> Lucifer: I don't know, but if he's a panther, he's typing very good for such an animal
18:40 <Pathetique> lol?
18:40 <Lucifer> jaguar_rose: er, you never heard of Malcolm X and the Black Panthers?
18:40 <Lucifer> here's a hint, they weren't a rock band
18:40 <Pathetique> LOL
18:41 <Pathetique> hmm
18:41 <Flex> speaking of interfaces.. so did you ask lizzzy what she's using? :p
18:41 <Pathetique> Lucifer, Xcode should be able to handle python, right?
18:41 <Lucifer> er, no?
18:42 <Pathetique> She has the same thing as you; I asked cause of the screenshot corn posted on the dbd forums
18:42 <Pathetique> :S
18:42 <Lucifer> not sure what you're asking, the question doesn't make sense to me ;/
18:42 <Flex> what screenshot?
18:43 <Pathetique> Meaning, if I use xcode to try and compile ACME into a Mac OS X App, do you have any idea if it would compile?
18:44 <Lucifer> ah, acme isn't a program you compile, and the only way I know of to turn it into an app didn't work last time nemo tried it
18:44 <Pathetique> ic
18:44 <Lucifer> you'll want to look at py2app
18:44 <Pathetique> I read that part.
18:44 <Lucifer> or, you could work on rewriting it in C++ and eliminating a whole class of middlemen that aren't really needed anyway :)
18:44 <Pathetique> I thought that perhaps it kind of compiles because it uses a converter
18:44 <Pathetique> and uh
18:44 <Pathetique> LOL!
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18:45 <Pathetique> can't even define variables in classes in header files and then call them correctly from source files yet
18:45 <Pathetique> oops
18:45 <Lucifer> no, all the py2app type of programs just take the script(s) and put them in a file and append it to a copy of the python interpreter
18:45  * Pathetique can't even define variables in classes in header files and then call them correctly from source files yet
18:45  * Pathetique doesn't think he could handle that just yet
18:46 <Pathetique> Flex: http://www.dbd.wwwd.name/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=28
18:47 <Flex> can't see that
18:47 <Pathetique> you have to be logged in? :S
18:48 <Pathetique> LOL
18:48 <Pathetique> nano has a censor set up on the forum for the word cock
18:48 <Flex> lol
18:48 <Pathetique> and so whenever you type cockpit file
18:48 <Pathetique> it comes up as
18:48 <Pathetique> "roosterpit"
18:48 <Flex> i don't have an account
18:49 <Pathetique> Aren't you and liz at the same location?
18:49 <Flex> no lol
18:50 <Pathetique> were you yesterday or the day before? She mentioned something about her ping being horrible cause you were downloading something
18:50 <Pathetique> and I told her to kick you in the shins
18:50 <Flex> lol
18:50 <Pathetique> lol
18:50 <Flex> she was joking.. and why kick me?
18:50 <Pathetique> iunno
18:50 <Pathetique> cause you were downloading?
18:50  * Pathetique was being his usual silly self
18:51 <Pathetique> ugh
18:51 <Flex> yeah i do remember doing that for her.. i can't remember what we did so the screenshot can be anything
18:51 <jaguar_rose> Lucifer: nope, too young, I mean I already have, but just "heard"
18:51 <Pathetique> lol
18:51 <Pathetique> the downside of having like 2000 fonts
18:51 <Pathetique> is that Photoshop CS2, which is PPC only, takes fucking forever to load. ><
18:53 <Pathetique> Lucifer: nemo was able to get it to go through and function, right? Cause he did post a screenshot
18:54 <Lucifer> he got it to run, following my instructions
18:54 <Lucifer> that part's easy, relatively
18:54 <Lucifer> we're talking about two different things
18:54 <Lucifer> see, most scripted languages you can just run the script in the interpreter, right?
18:54 <Pathetique> yes
18:54 <Lucifer> like "perl myscript" and your script called "myscript" runs
18:54 <Pathetique> yes
18:54 <Lucifer> but when you want to package up your program, what do you do?
18:55 <Lucifer> especially after you see how much work it is to get PyQt4 running on Mac OS X :)
18:55 <Lucifer> you don't want your end-users to suffer through that, most of them won't
18:55 <Lucifer> ok, I lied, none of your end-users will suffer through that
18:55 <Lucifer> so you need to package it all up so they can run it, and that's where py2app comes in
18:56 <Lucifer> it simplifies the python dependency hell problem for you so you can build an app bundle out of your script
18:56 <Lucifer> that's all it does
18:56 <Flex> wtf is a roosterpit
18:56 <Pathetique> cockpit
18:56 <Flex> c0ckpit
18:56 <Lucifer> rooster = cock
18:56 <Pathetique> I'm going to edit the censor entry.
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18:56 <Pathetique> ic
18:57 <Pathetique> sidebar: i just realized that if I set up a censor that looks for roosterpit and changes it to cockpit, then there might be one of those scary things called infinite recursions that someone mentioned armabot is now vaccinated against...
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19:16 <Pathetique> awww...that's crusty. You can only do one SVN operation at once ><
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19:21 <Flex> .
19:21 <ivantis> ./
19:21 <Pathetique>  .
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19:26 <K-Yo> yo emmy_arma
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19:29 <Pathetique> wb
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20:49 <ivantis> kidanger: did you get authentication to work?
20:49 <kidanger> ivantis: yes :)
20:50 <ivantis> good
20:51 <epsy> bored
20:51 <epsy> ivantis, let's try your server :P
20:52 <ivantis> for what?
20:52 <ivantis> playing
20:53 <Pathetique> lol unreachable
20:53 <ivantis> no its not
20:53 <ivantis> just really slow
20:53 <epsy> #sd team fortress
20:53 <armabot> epsy: TEAM FORTRESS (pardus.at): Players (0/16):
20:53 <Pathetique> Probably because you have your lag settings enabled.
20:53 <epsy> FREE FORTRESS!
20:54 <epsy> #sd -v space
20:54 <armabot> epsy: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080719 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (4/8): God, ivantis, kidanger, The Great Donut
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20:58 <ivantis> hey kidanger: i have to go, im going to see batman
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20:58 <KeY_3113> damn
20:58 <KeY_3113> I've been told it was awsome
20:58 <KeY_3113> ivantis_away, hf :D
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21:17 <kidanger> epsy: ya quoi de prevu de nouveau dans des futures version d'arma ?
21:18 <epsy> euh
21:18 <epsy> ta mere!
21:19 <kidanger> ??
21:19 <kidanger> entre dev vous parlez pas des prochaines versions ?
21:20 <epsy> ben tu parles de quand
21:20 <kidanger> Je sais pas, à long terme
21:21 <epsy> PWNZ!
21:22 <kidanger> ok...
21:22 <epsy> question bete reponse bete
21:22 <epsy> :)
21:23 <kidanger> parce que la c'est un peu toujours pareil, pas d'inovation :P
21:23 <epsy> ben ecoute
21:23 <epsy> tout ce qui est gravé sur de la roche c sur le wiki
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21:24 <kidanger> Je l'ai deja lu 3 fois le wiki
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21:24 <epsy> la partie dev?
21:25 <kidanger> pitetre pas, jvais voir ça
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22:36 <guru3> what's a good ide for linux?
22:40 <Lucifer> emacs?
22:41 <Lucifer> hey, how do I figure out how much heat will come off a wire?
22:41 <ct|kyle> geany
22:41 <Lucifer> a wire with a current, of course
22:41 <Pathetique> well, it depends on resistence
22:41 <Pathetique> cross sectional area
22:41  * Lucifer wonders what the use of a ide is in linux
22:41 <Pathetique> current
22:41 <Lucifer> yeah, that stuff I know, the catch is in converting power to temperature
22:41 <Pathetique> exactly
22:41 <Pathetique> um
22:42 <Pathetique> iunno, maybe Numerical Chameleon could help you?
22:42 <Lucifer> I have a figure here that says black powder mixed with 100 parts kno3 and 27 parts charcoal will ignite at 440C
22:42 <Pathetique> LOL
22:42 <Lucifer> so I need to make a circuit that will produce enough heat to heat up a portion of the mixture to 440C so it'll ignite
22:42 <Lucifer> then I don't have to buy sulfur :)
22:42 <Pathetique> without shorting out your power source
22:43 <Lucifer> basic idea is a resistor to draw the current and a really thin wire
22:43 <Pathetique> You'd need quite a few amps.
22:43 <Lucifer> not really :)
22:44 <Lucifer> see, it's for a recovery charge on a rocket
22:44 <Pathetique> in my experience XP
22:44 <Lucifer> so what you do is put a RC circuit on there to draw a large charge from a small battery
22:44 <Pathetique> Maybe use a capacitor?
22:44 <Lucifer> then you discharge from the capacitor, which can provide infinite amps :)
22:44 <Pathetique> lolz
22:45 <Pathetique> My physics teacher has a 1 Farad capacitor. The thing is like an inch wide
22:45 <Lucifer> maybe I should just use my power supply and find out experimentally--after I make the black powder
22:45 <Lucifer> yeah, we have some 1 F capacitors in the physics lab I work in
22:45 <Pathetique> o.0
22:45 <Lucifer> those fuckers are huge
22:45 <Pathetique> How much time does it take to charge them?
22:45 <Lucifer> RC = time constant :)
22:45 <Pathetique> I was too afraid to fuck with it in class.. lol
22:46 <Lucifer> my 555 timers came in today, so now I want to start making some black powder so I can work on the ejection charges
22:46 <Pathetique> lol
22:47 <Lucifer> of course, now it's raining, so I can't exactly go make charcoal :/
22:47 <Lucifer> don't want to do that in the oven because it'll smoke up the whole house, so I want to use the grill
22:50 <Pathetique> Btw, Lucifer, I think this might be of interest for you when thinking about possible things to do with tron: http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_what_is.html
22:51 <Lucifer> oh shit, I know the answer
22:51 <Lucifer> what's the specific heat of the black powder?
22:52 <Pathetique> uh
22:52 <Pathetique> no idea
22:53 <Lucifer> well, it's a mixture, so I'll see if I can get the specific heat of the ingredients and then compute the average specific heat for the mixture from there
22:56 <Pathetique> Where do you work?
22:59 <Lucifer> ACC
22:59 <Lucifer> Austin Community College :)
22:59 <Lucifer> ok, specific heat of KNO3 is 1.2J/gC
22:59 <Pathetique> Cool :)
23:02 <Lucifer> hmmm
23:02 <Lucifer> kJ/kg is numerically equal to J/g, right?
23:02 <Lucifer> ;)
23:02 <Lucifer> so charcoal is 1 J/gC
23:02 <Pathetique> the value of the fraction should be if you do your maths right, yes
23:03 <Lucifer> I'm seeing 10^3 in the numerator and the denominator
23:06  * Pathetique blinks, then nods his head in agreement
23:09 <Lucifer> you know what?  Those two numbers are so close together that I can just use 1.1 for my math
23:09 <Lucifer> you know, as the specific heat of the mixture
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23:15 <Pathetique> I remember all that stuff
23:15 <Pathetique> I'm just not good at visualizing math from text on a screen
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23:55 <Pathetique> ?

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