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Log from 2008-05-07:
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01:23 <StickyNoob> #g ping
01:23 <armabot> StickyNoob: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
01:23 <StickyNoob> #g 1+2
01:23 <armabot> StickyNoob: 1 + 2 = 3
01:23 <StickyNoob> how come google isnt working for me
01:23 <Flex> www.google.co.uk
01:24 <StickyNoob> nope
01:24 <StickyNoob> maby dns is fucked
01:29 <Flex> "We're trying to find the command and control centre"
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01:41 * luke-jr considers emerge -C armagetronad-live since it almost always has build problems these days.
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01:42 <noob13> isn't talk_to_master 0 supposed to make the server not appear on the server list?
01:42 <noob13> what am i missing here?
01:43 <noob13> (because it apparently doesn't)
01:43 <luke-jr> noob13: you can never hide from the master list once it knows you exist?
01:43 <noob13> aha...
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01:44 <noob13> so should i spawn the server on a different port with that setting on?
01:44 <luke-jr> no
01:44 <luke-jr> you should leave it alone -.-
01:45 <luke-jr> and play glob2 with me
01:45 <noob13> sounds tempting
01:45 <noob13> but no
01:45 <Flex> wrtlprnft, speak to me when you're awake :)
01:45 <luke-jr> f u too
01:45 <Flex> me?
01:45 <luke-jr> sure
01:46 <Flex> why? :(
01:46 <luke-jr> wtf do I care, you asked
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01:52 <Flex> why are you so meaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
01:55 <Flex> CHECK THIS!
01:55 <Flex> Monkey_arma,
01:55 <Flex> sumo AND fortress
01:55 <Monkey_arma> ?
01:55 <Monkey_arma> it has been tried
01:55 <Flex> fortsumo
01:55 <Monkey_arma> if u mean fumo
01:55 <Flex> fumo
01:55 <Flex> lmao
01:55 <Monkey_arma> and it dont work properly
01:55 <Flex> how was it
01:55 <Monkey_arma> it almost works
01:55 <Flex> what's the general idea of fumo
01:56 <Monkey_arma> choice of zones
01:56 <Monkey_arma> sumo in middle
01:56 <Monkey_arma> fort at ends
01:56 <Flex> that sounds like a WF map..
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02:10 <Monkey_arma> i like how luke-jr plugs his servers on the wiki
02:10 <Monkey_arma> nice
02:11 <luke-jr> ☺
02:17 <Flex> ☺
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02:36 <Monkey_arma> #luke-jr-servers
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02:36 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: stfu
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02:38 <noob13> heh
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02:53 <Flex> it's actually EFIC PHAIL
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03:41 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer, you should know...How can you make a server that has already appeard on the master list, not appear on the master list? changing TALK_TO_MASTER does not work.
03:43 <Lucifer> change its port and restart it
03:43 <Lucifer> also changing talk_to_master only works if you change it in config and restart it
03:43 <Monkey_arma> i thought that .
03:43 <Lucifer> however, if you keep the port the same, the master server will continue pinging the server and keep it listed
03:43 <Monkey_arma> so arma just used the one port as default or a range?
03:43 <Lucifer> so you have to make your server unavailable to the master server completely by changing its port
03:44 <Lucifer> it has a default port, but there's a config item to change it
03:44 <Monkey_arma> right so that would be in server_info.cfg?
03:44 <Lucifer> that's where it goes :)
03:45 <Monkey_arma> :) thanks..nice one. So just change the setting in that file is enough..nowhere else?
03:45 <Lucifer> as long as you don't have it anywhere else, that should be fine
03:45 <Lucifer> but if you have it also in settings_custom.cfg, then you should remove it from there
03:46 <Monkey_arma> right ok..and it shouldnt be in any other file because they should not be editted anywya
03:46 <Lucifer> as far as what you're concerned about, port/server name/network settings/client limits should all be in server_info.cfg and nowhere else
03:46 <Monkey_arma> agreed
03:46 <Monkey_arma> thx
03:46 <Lucifer> the basic test is "If somebody wanted to setup a clone of my server, can I send them settings_custom.cfg?"
03:47 <Lucifer> np
03:47 <Monkey_arma> ye..but some people put things in the wrong places
03:47 <Monkey_arma> naughty people
03:47 <Monkey_arma> :)
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03:59 <luke-jr> hm, blocking tele-muggers doesn't work too well
03:59 <luke-jr> should I forward them to emergency instead?
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04:21 <Lucifer> <-- Ttech has left this server ("Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up."). <---- ha ha ha, you fell, here let me help you up, assmunch
04:21 <Ttech> Wow
04:27 <Lucifer> ?
04:27 <luke-jr> anyone up for a game of glob2?
05:06 <Flex> it looks shit
05:06 <Flex> abunch of shit textures running around
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05:24 <luke-jr> lol
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05:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: liar
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08:16 <wrtlprnft> Flex: you suck.
08:16 * wrtlprnft has spoken.
08:18 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: talk_to_master works if you change it for a running server, it stops talking to the master. The master just already knows
08:22 <Lucifer> Our advice is to apply the same rule to architecture as you do to computers: Don't ever bet your life on windows not crashing.
08:22 <Lucifer> http://www.snopes.com/horrors/freakish/window.asp
08:22 <Lucifer> can anybody highlight text in the main body of the article?
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08:24 <wrtlprnft> not me
08:25 <wrtlprnft> probably some transparent div over it
08:27 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: no, if you disable javascript you can
08:27 <wrtlprnft> it's some stupid script to “protect” their content
08:30 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/1010178
09:03 <wrtlprnft> Flex: and now I'm gone again
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11:14 <Monkey_arma> morning
11:30 <epsy> hi
11:37 <Monkey_arma> oO
11:37 <Monkey_arma> hi
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13:31 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8455 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs): wrtlprnft: Put the code to log score differences and the code to update the suspend count into separate functions. Needed for the sty+ct branch and I guess it's a good idea to minimize confusing function names :-)
13:36 <Monkey_arma> can anyone tell me where i can get an EXACT copy of fort cafe settings please?
13:39 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetron.at/~armagetronad/cafe_settings_custom.cfg
13:39 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetron.at/~armagetronad/cafe_help.cfg
13:39 <Monkey_arma> oO ty...very quick response
13:40 <wrtlprnft> yw
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15:58 <Flex> wrtlprnft, i just wanted to say Monkey_arma is gay
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16:43 <Monkey_arma> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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18:35 <Flex> Monkey_arma, did you say freeview doesn't work in your area?
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18:51 <wrtlprnft> Flex: what a waste of bytes
18:51 <Flex> blame Monkey_arma
18:51 <Flex> he changed his mind or went with another idea
18:51 <Flex> or something
18:53 <Flex> or were you referring to something else
18:56 <wrtlprnft> no
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19:18 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: I'm tempted to lift their script, put it on a page in my website, and change it to pop up a dialog that says something about "Your fair use rights are being violated by this web page, you can't select anything here."
19:19 <Lucifer> where the entertaining part would be that I blatantly stole their code to write it :)
19:19 <wrtlprnft> #tea
19:19 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Players (19/32): Alpha Dog, cT_K-Yo, flash (flashy@forums), GODNES, killerbees19, Lackadaisical, madmax (madmax@forums), Monkey (Monkey@x), noob13 (noob13@forums), O--->, PhysiX, PlayerNub, RubyTiger, Suicyber, The The, Tr³zz (tr3zz@crazy-tronners.com), ~|DS|~ Plage, ¦×¦ Infamous, ¦×¦epsy (epsy@x)
19:19 * Lucifer wanted to quote part of that page in an email to his physics instructor
19:19 <wrtlprnft> note the amount of armathenticated people
19:19 * Lucifer did a little view->source to get it
19:21 <wrtlprnft> there are pages (or used to be) that tried to prevent that by opening a popup without a menu or address bar displaying the acutual page and closing the original window
19:21 <epsy> crtl + u?
19:21 <epsy> howdo you bookmark it then btw? :)
19:22 <wrtlprnft> epsy: they don't care ;-)
19:22 <Lucifer> they're too busy trying to prevent people from stealing their stuff
19:22 <wrtlprnft> same with sites that use a frameset with just one large frame to make the URI look pretty
19:22 <Lucifer> back then it was Mozilla that just collapsed the chrome and let you click a button to get it back that saved the day :)
19:23 <Lucifer> my school disables the right mouse button on every public computer
19:23 <Lucifer> it's really a pain
19:23 <Lucifer> in computer labs and stuff, where people are expected to do work, they don't disable it
19:24 <Lucifer> but since I take my portableapps-loaded flash drive and use that, I don't have any serious problems with it anymore
19:24 <Lucifer> it's only the software installed on their computers that's intentionally broken, my stuff is fully functional
19:25 <Lucifer> I used to know a girl who trapped the right-click event on webpages and suppressed it, to prevent people from copy/pasting
19:25 <Lucifer> so I showed her how I could use keyboard shortcuts, and she found a way around that
19:25 <Lucifer> then I showed her how to middle-click in Linux and she gave up :)
19:27 <wrtlprnft> globally disabling the right mouse button?
19:27 <wrtlprnft> are we in Mac-land ten years ago now?
19:28 <Lucifer> heh, apparently
19:28 * Lucifer almost can't wait until an IT guy sees him working on a public computer with his flash drive
19:28 <Monkey_arma> Just in case anyone hasn't seen 2020's recent post, here is what he intends to inflict upon our servers in the near future...
19:28 <Monkey_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18403
19:29 <Lucifer> er, he's actively recruiting kids....
19:29 <Monkey_arma> ...
19:30 <Lucifer> his club is running on a LAN server
19:30 <Monkey_arma> "you might find some new blood appearing on the grid sometime..."
19:31 <Lucifer> kids go home, say "look at this game we played at school", downloads it, plays it, appears on the grid....
19:31 * Lucifer doesn't see how this can be a problem
19:32 <Monkey_arma> ok well if for every kid he recruits, he recruits an adult too then its ok
19:32 <Lucifer> why does he have to recruit adults too?
19:32 <Monkey_arma> of course kids should play
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19:33 <Monkey_arma> but the servers get silly when its all kids
19:33 <Lucifer> then you play on a different server for a little while if you don't feel like babysitting
19:33 <Lucifer> me, I don't mind playing with kids, it's adults taht I have to babysit that really annoy me
19:34 <Monkey_arma> some adults are like kids ye
19:34 <Lucifer> fortress is a good environment for team building exercises, I think 2020's doing a wonderful thing
19:34 <Monkey_arma> it has its points
19:34 <Monkey_arma> just the mass influx might be overwhelming
19:35 <Monkey_arma> we average not many on the servers
19:35 <Lucifer> heh, we'll be fine. He's only talking 20 kids or so, we can handle that
19:35 <Lucifer> we've taken worse in the past, with fewer servers and much crappier network code
19:35 <Monkey_arma> he is 2020..he is nutzor..he wants 1million tronners
19:36 <Monkey_arma> "news headline: entire school plays tron"
19:36 <Lucifer> well, with the current ratio of tronners/servers, we'll probably have 900,000 servers when we have 1 million tronners
19:36 <Monkey_arma> great...that'll take a week to update on my comp then
19:36 <Lucifer> yeah, well, we'll burn that bridge when we come to it
19:37 <Monkey_arma> :\
19:52 <joda_bot> epsy: are u banned now ?
19:53 <epsy> i guess so
19:53 <joda_bot> so moderators can be kicked ? ;)
19:53 <epsy> well i pressed enter to /admin votes_cancel right when the poll was accepted so..
19:54 <epsy> lAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111ONEOENONE
19:54 <joda_bot> hehe
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20:17 <luke-jr> Lucifer: 900,000 servers sounds like Arma pays full-time :þ
20:19 <Monkey_arma> the kids are 11-16 so their brians have developed enough to realise they should stay clear of you.
20:19 <Monkey_arma> *brains
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20:22 <wrtlprnft> yeah, Lucifer's avatar looks like a stranger I wouldn't want to be around as an 11 year old kid :-)
20:22 * Lucifer scares a lot of kids
20:22 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: just because you're too retarded to understand the concept of paying for services doesn't mean everyone is
20:23 <wrtlprnft> especially with Interests:murder/death/kill
20:23 <Lucifer> there's this little Indian girl in my son's pre-K class that came in yesterday, saw it was just me and my son, and went back out to wait in the car
20:23 <Monkey_arma> i understand paying for *GOOD* services
20:24 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: get a clue
20:25 <Monkey_arma> http://www.mysterynet.com/get/
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21:36 <wrtlprnft> #g 0x5c6 in dec
21:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:36 <wrtlprnft> #g 5c6h + 0 in dec
21:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:36 <wrtlprnft> #g 5c6h + 0 in decimal
21:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:36 <wrtlprnft> #g 5c6h + 0
21:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:36 <wrtlprnft> #g 0x5c6 + 0
21:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 0x5c6 + 0 = 0x5C6
21:36 <wrtlprnft> #g 0x5c6 + 0 in decimal
21:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 0x5c6 + 0 = 1,478
21:37 <StickyNoob> #tea
21:37 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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21:57 <epsy> noob13, noob7_away wants you to come on x sumo
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22:47 <StickyNoob> #tea
22:47 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): Desolate (Desolate@crazy-tronners.com), flash (flashy@forums), Monkey (Monkey@x), Player 1, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~GluGGsel, ¦×¦ Flex, ¦×¦epsy (epsy@x)
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23:14 <madmax> RAID explained: http://www.ghen.be/raid.jpg
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23:17 <epsy> lol
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23:35 <Lucifer_pen> my give up
23:36 <Lucifer_pen> I"m not turning it the physics lab writeups I didn't do, I'm just going to ask my instructor if I still get the 50% credit for being there and doing the lab
23:38 <epsy> what if he says no ? :P
23:40 <Flex> then he's going to stalk him to his house and brake his legs
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23:53 <Lucifer_pen> he'll be violating his own policy in that case
23:53 <G5_Ger> How did u insert a picture into this IRC chat, madmax?
23:54 <G5_Ger> Or was it just an URL and my client added the picture?
23:54 <madmax> hm, just placed the URL
23:54 <madmax> what client are you using?
23:54 <madmax> that's interesting
23:55 <G5_Ger> Colloguy ... you should be able to see that. I see what client you are using.
23:55 <Flex> haha, so we can link any image and it will appear on your screen? :D
23:55 <Flex> interesting.....
23:56 <G5_Ger> Yep ...
23:56 <madmax> well, you could have fake ctcp version replies. but i was lazy to type it
23:57 <madmax> http://ipac.jpl.nasa.gov/media_images/ssc2006-10b.jpg
23:57 <Flex> lol
23:57 <madmax> does that blow the screen? or is it smart enough to scale?
23:57 <Flex> the best you can do?!
23:58 <G5_Ger> Scaled to window width
23:58 <G5_Ger> nice
23:58 <madmax> wasn't big enough? :(
23:58 <Flex> of course not
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
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