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00:27 <spidey_> ok....
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01:25 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8262 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
01:25 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
01:25 <armabot> armagetronad: All votes are now handled over the new server controlled system
01:25 <armabot> armagetronad: internally. For old clients (pre 0.2.8), the vote items disguise as
01:25 <armabot> armagetronad: kick votes (if they are kick or suspend votes) and are plainly
01:25 <armabot> armagetronad: invisible for include and command votes.
01:25 <armabot> armagetronad: The decision to transform a kick into a suspension is now made on vote
01:26 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8263 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eVoter.cpp): Manuel Moos: Restored behavior that kick votes over the chat interface don't get transformed to removal votes.
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01:35 <z-man> #later tell flex nothing so far, my ping in LAN games fluctuates between 5 and 25, which is somewhat expected (still a little on the high side).
01:35 <armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
01:36 <z-man> #later tell wrtlprnft The transformation only happened when the vote was accepted, the new code does it differently. Could you upgrade and test?
01:36 <armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
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05:48 <Ttech> m
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08:24 <dirka> #m eddiefantastic Can we talk? umm...#m Durka not this name
08:24 <armabot> dirka: The operation succeeded.
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09:52 <eddiefantastic> #m Durka sure
09:52 <armabot> eddiefantastic: The operation succeeded.
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12:16 <eddiefantastic> #m Durka the files you need are in here: http://crazy-tronners.com/wrtl/
12:16 <armabot> eddiefantastic: The operation succeeded.
12:17 <eddiefantastic> #m Durka http://crazy-tronners.com/wrtl/serverbrowser.php.txt is the main server browser
12:17 <armabot> eddiefantastic: The operation succeeded.
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12:18 <Durka> eddiefantastic: yo
12:18 <eddiefantastic> #m Durka getservers.sh is the script that runs to copy across upto date data. Important because if wrtl's server has problems it wont bring the main page down
12:18 <eddiefantastic> hi Durka
12:18 <armabot> eddiefantastic: The operation succeeded.
12:19 <Durka> btw
12:19 <eddiefantastic> mainpage.php.txt is the scripr to add to the bottom of the main page
12:19 <eddiefantastic> Durka: you get all that?
12:19 <Durka> the one at the bottom of your index page was "20000 seconds old"
12:20 <Durka> getservers.sh is the script that runs to copy across upto date data. Important because if wrtl's server has problems it wont bring the main page down
12:20 <Durka> mainpage.php.txt is the scripr to add to the bottom of the main page
12:20 <Durka> ?
12:20 <eddiefantastic> yes, the server crashed yesterday and getservers.sh was not restarted
12:20 <Durka> heh
12:20 <Durka> that's all i got ^
12:21 <eddiefantastic> the files you need are in here: http://crazy-tronners.com/wrtl/
12:21 <eddiefantastic> http://crazy-tronners.com/wrtl/serverbrowser.php.txt is the main server browser
12:21 <eddiefantastic> getservers.sh is the script that runs to copy across upto date data. Important because if wrtl's server has problems it wont bring the main page down
12:22 <eddiefantastic> mainpage.php.txt is the script to add to the bottom of the main page
12:22 <eddiefantastic> make sense?
12:22 <Durka> http://crazy-tronners.com/wrtl/serverxml.txt
12:22 <Durka> wtf is that?
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12:22 <eddiefantastic> a copy of serverxml.xml
12:23 <Durka> well
12:23 <Durka> that doesn't look like it updates live
12:23 <eddiefantastic> a copy of http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php
12:23 <Durka> ok, but i think i got it
12:23 <Durka> lemme try
12:23 <Durka> gimme a few minutes
12:23 <Durka> i lost my ftp details :P
12:24 <eddiefantastic> you may need some kind of shell access to run getservers.sh
12:25 <eddiefantastic> serverbrowser.php doesn't use that though. It talks directly to wrtl's page
12:25 <eddiefantastic> if wrtl's page goes down, so does that
12:32 <Durka> so technically
12:32 <Durka> assuming wrtl's page never goes down
12:32 <Durka> i only need the serverbrowser.php file?
12:33 <eddiefantastic> http://crazy-tronners.com/serverbrowser.php <--that is just that page
12:34 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/serverbrowser.php
12:34 <eddiefantastic> http://crazy-tronners.com/index.php <--the server browser at the base of this page is mainpage.php.txt
12:34 <Durka> ^^ very nice
12:34 <Durka> yea i know that :P
12:35 <eddiefantastic> looking good :)
12:35 <Durka> :D
12:35 <Durka> someone must've eaten it
12:37 <Durka> seriously though :\
12:38 <eddiefantastic> did you just plop in in there unmodified?
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12:40 <eddiefantastic> Durka print($players);
12:40 <eddiefantastic> oh, hang on, that's the other one
12:41  * Durka hangs on
12:42 <eddiefantastic> //print('</pre>')
12:43 <eddiefantastic>  //print_r(get_server_list(true));
12:43 <eddiefantastic> uncomment that line
12:43 <eddiefantastic> that should show that you're connecting to the site correctly
12:43 <eddiefantastic>             $players .= 'Online Server Browser Disabled.';
12:44 <eddiefantastic> or change that line to: print('no connect'); or something
12:45 <eddiefantastic> currently if it can't connect to wrtl's page it will do nothing
12:45 <Durka> uncomment both?
12:45 <eddiefantastic> which seems to be what it is doing
12:45 <eddiefantastic> sure
12:45 <eddiefantastic> then it should do one or the other
12:45 <eddiefantastic>  //print_r(get_server_list(true));
12:46 <eddiefantastic> just that one should do it
12:46 <eddiefantastic> remove: $players .= 'Online Server Browser Disabled.';
12:46 <eddiefantastic> replace with: print('no connect');
12:47 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/serverbrowser.php
12:49 <eddiefantastic>     $fileUrl = 'http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php';
12:49 <eddiefantastic> 	$AgetHeaders = @get_headers($fileUrl);
12:49 <eddiefantastic> 	if (preg_match("|200|", $AgetHeaders[0])) {
12:49 <eddiefantastic> That is failing
12:49 <eddiefantastic> I have no idea why :S
12:49 <eddiefantastic> maybe you have an older php?
12:50 <eddiefantastic> if (preg_match("|200|", $AgetHeaders[0])) {
12:51 <eddiefantastic> comment that line and put in if(1){
12:52 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/serverbrowser.php
12:52 <Durka> yep
12:53 <Durka> it doesn't like doing that
12:53 <Durka> for me to get stuff from other websites i HAVE to use:
12:53 <Durka> <?php
12:53 <Durka> $ch = curl_init();
12:53 <Durka> curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_URL, "http://google.com");
12:53 <Durka> curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_HEADER, 0);
12:53 <Durka> curl_exec($ch);
12:53 <Durka> curl_close($ch);
12:54 <Durka> ?>
12:54 <Durka> anyways
12:54 <Durka> i really need to sleep
12:54 <Durka> it's 4 am
12:54 <Durka> i'll come find you another time
12:54 <Durka> #m me if you figure anything out :D
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12:54 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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13:13 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8264 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/nAuthentication.cpp: Added login failure reason to playback.
13:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8265 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Fixed spurious rename message bug; it happened when you authenticated and changed your color during the same round.
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13:31 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8266 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/nAuthentication.cpp: Adding method suffix and prefix to recording.
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15:15 <wrtlprnft> z-man: thanks, i'll test.
15:16 <wrtlprnft> z-man: when i was testing I always cancelled the vote because i didn't want to get autobanned :-P I always connect before the two minutes minimum
15:16 <epsy> the acid3 test is out
15:16 <epsy> totalt phail :þ
15:16 <z-man> Ah :)
15:16 <epsy> i wonder if it's supposed to be css 2.1
15:18 <wrtlprnft> epsy: err, it's been out for ages
15:18 <wrtlprnft> epsy: and it does at least test css3 selectors
15:20 <wrtlprnft> z-man: and thanks for removing the name change bug. It was the effect of PLAYER_RANDOM_COLOR (or whatever it's called)
15:20 <z-man> Yeah, that, too.
15:20  * z-man was massively annoyed by it.
15:20 <wrtlprnft> it's still too bad that it loves pink so much because noone else likes it
15:21 <z-man> That's by design :)
15:27 <wrtlprnft> i know
15:28  * wrtlprnft needs some testers on café
15:32 <epsy> ok
15:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8267 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/nNetwork.cpp:
15:35 <armabot> armagetronad: Strings get excess zeroes clamped away before they are written over the net.
15:35 <armabot> armagetronad: This fixes sporadic network message length discrepancies on playback. I hope the
15:35 <armabot> armagetronad: extra zeroes don't do harm elsewhere (string comparison is safe).
15:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8268 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Fixed screen name reservation.
15:36 <wrtlprnft> z-man: works fine
15:37 <z-man> goody.
15:38  * wrtlprnft thinks include votes might be more useful if you could specify files that can be nominated by anyone
15:38 <z-man> Anyone got an idea what we could use "/vote include" for?
15:38 <wrtlprnft> ah, wait a second
15:38 <wrtlprnft> you can already do that :-)
15:38 <wrtlprnft> CASACL :D
15:38 <z-man> Heh ;)
15:39 <wrtlprnft> your stuff is too well-planned
15:39  * z-man had DedCon to get it all wrong the first time round
15:39 <flex> hey z-man, you said something about ping optimization in some versions, but it was disabled sometime on the trunk? is this still the case and maybe the cause of the ping issue for just window users?
15:39 <wrtlprnft> so DedCon actually helped arma?
15:40  * wrtlprnft feared that it would stop the greatest arma developer there is from improving his game
15:40 <z-man> I'd say so. Much of the concepts for access levels and stuff come from there.
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15:40 <z-man> Well, luckily, there is only a very limited set of features DedCon can actually provide, and that' done.
15:41 <wrtlprnft> ah
15:41 <z-man> Things would be worse if the game server actually had control over the game state.
15:43 <wrtlprnft> defcon must be quite easy to cheat
15:43 <wrtlprnft> what happens if two clients disagree on the game state?
15:43 <z-man> There's a sync error.
15:44 <wrtlprnft> who wins?
15:44 <z-man> The clients all send a hash value of the current game state back to the server, and the server compares them.
15:44 <z-man> The majority wins.
15:44 <wrtlprnft> ah
15:44 <wrtlprnft> 1v1?
15:44 <z-man> So yeah, in a duel, one cheater screws both.
15:44 <z-man> But at least the honest player knows whose fault it is :)
15:44 <wrtlprnft> ;)
15:47 <z-man> flex: The ping optimization was a separate thread processing the network data while the renderer was busy swapping screens. It is disabled now everywhere, but it wasn't in 0.2.8.2.1, so it can't be the problem.
15:47 <z-man> Which version did you test now, btw?
15:48 <z-man> I don't think what I did entered wrtl's last test build.
15:48 <wrtlprnft> z-man: that build basically contains everything from your last merge
15:48 <flex> yeah
15:48 <z-man> Yep, and I don't think the fix was merged already.
15:49 <flex> r8253
15:50 <flex> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.3&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=Windows&arch=&bitness=&format=#download
15:50 <z-man> woo, activity on n00b fort
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19:33 <deja_vu> anyone wanna join me on fortress shootout? :)
19:36 <deja_vu> :(
19:39 <epsy> anyone wanna whineAboutIE6 ?
19:41 <duudii> never used such a piece of shit, epsy..
19:41 <duudii> but sure... i'll join in.
19:41 <flex> what have you used?
19:41 <epsy> 60% of the actual people use IE6
19:41 <epsy> or 50%
19:41 <epsy> or whatever
19:41 <duudii> damn.
19:42 <flex> when IE6 was actually the best thing round you used something else?
19:42 <epsy> um
19:42 <duudii> hmm
19:42 <epsy> that time never existed
19:42 <epsy> pwnt ^^
19:43 <luke-jr> uh
19:43 <luke-jr> yes it did
19:43 <luke-jr> unless you mean that was IE
19:43 <luke-jr> 5
19:45 -!- z-man is now known as z-man-work
19:46 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8269 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. config/settings.cfg src/tron/gWinZone.cpp): Manuel Moos: added FORTRESS_COLLAPSE_SPEED to control the time between the conquest of a zone and the vanishing (and killing of the team members)
19:48 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: to make it worth running away from your collapsing zone? ;-)
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20:22 <flex> luke-jr
20:22 <flex> you're gay
20:23 <flex> :)
20:23 <flex> :*
20:41 <hoop_tron> wrtlprnft: hay, the login was ok. now i'm gonna play and will test all. thx )
20:43 <wrtlprnft> hoop_tron: ok, have fun
20:44 <wrtlprnft> hoop_tron: just remember, no idiot is worth getting upset about :-)
20:49 <hoop_tron> sure, I won't forget :)
21:26  * madmax uses "macro programz" on nexus9
21:26 <madmax> haha
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21:44 <flex> lol..
21:46 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg tst
21:46 <armabot> wrtlprnft: T.S.T.: Transforming Synthetic Technician
22:08 <epsy> :|
22:08 <epsy> #cyborg fff
22:08 <armabot> epsy: F.F.F.: Forbidden Fighting Facsimile
22:08 <flex> #cyborg ffft
22:08 <armabot> flex: F.F.F.T.: Functional Forbidden Fighting Technician
22:08 <pippijn> ...
22:09 <flex> #cyborg ...
22:09 <armabot> flex: Error: No cyborg name returned.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
22:09 <flex> #cyborg flex
22:09 <epsy> #cyborg FFFFFFFFFF
22:09 <armabot> flex: F.L.E.X.: Functional Lifeform Engineered for Xenocide
22:09 <armabot> epsy: F.F.F.F.F.F.F.F.F.F.: Functional Fusion Facsimile Fabricated for Forbidden Fighting, Fundamental Fun and Firm Fornication
22:09 <epsy> #cyborg PPPPPPPPPP
22:09 <armabot> epsy: P.P.P.P.P.P.P.P.P.P.: Positronic Patented Person Programmed for Potential Peacekeeping, Productive Patrolling and Practical Processing
22:09 <epsy> :)
22:10 <flex> #cyborg epsy
22:10 <armabot> flex: E.P.S.Y.: Electronic Person Skilled in Yelling
22:10 <flex> aha
22:10 <epsy> :|
22:10 <flex> #cyborg savas
22:10 <armabot> flex: S.A.V.A.S.: Synthetic Artificial Violence and Assassination Soldier
22:10 <flex> sweet
22:11 <deja_vu> #cyborg c
22:11 <armabot> deja_vu: Names must have at least 2 letters. Please enter another name.
22:12 <deja_vu> #cyborg deja_vu
22:12 <armabot> deja_vu: D.E.J.A.V.U.: Digital Electronic Judo and Accurate Violence Unit
22:23 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg xyqjz
22:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: X.Y.Q.J.Z.: Xperimental Ytterbium Quick Judo Zombie
22:28 <flex> #cyborg wrtlprnft
22:28 <armabot> flex: W.R.T.L.P.R.N.F.T.: Wireless Robotic Technician Limited to Potential Repair, Nullification and Forbidden Troubleshooting
22:32 <wrtlprnft> forbidden troubleshooting…
22:36 <wrtlprnft> epsy: /vote silence <someone> should work :-)
22:36 <wrtlprnft> just because it's new and I want it to be tested :-)
22:39 <epsy> unknown
22:39 <epsy> avaliable command are 'kick' 'include', 'command'
22:39 <epsy> :|
22:39 <wrtlprnft> err, nvm
22:39 <wrtlprnft> where did i get that idea from?
22:40 <epsy> lol
22:40 <wrtlprnft> well, /vote command SUSPEND <nick> works, although it's somewhat awkward
22:40 <epsy> heh
22:42 <epsy> wrtlprnft, could you check what's happening to Monkey all the time?
23:07 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ?
23:07 <wrtlprnft> what's his forums account?
23:10 <epsy> of?
23:10 <wrtlprnft> forums.aa.net, x, ct
23:10 <wrtlprnft> monkey's
23:10 <epsy> ah
23:11 <epsy> i don't know if he knows how to auth yet
23:11 <wrtlprnft> tell him :-)
23:11 <epsy> #ls monkey
23:11 <armabot> epsy: timed out
23:12 <epsy> ok
23:13 <epsy> not yet, tho
23:13  * epsy has this gmt clock to fix
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23:24 <madmax> #lastseen monkey
23:24 <armabot> madmax: |XC|skymonkey seems to be on |FA| BLACK ICE right now.
23:25 <madmax> gah
23:25 <madmax> #tea
23:25 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Bah, easy|RIDER, hoop, Monkey, Player 1, Terminator
23:27 <flex> #aka
23:27 <flex> #aka monkey
23:27 <armabot> flex: timed out
23:27 <ct|kyle> #aka flex_is_n00b
23:27 <armabot> flex: timed out
23:27 <flex> no u
23:27 <rico> #aka flexlikesmen
23:27 <flex> no u
23:27 <ct|kyle> no
23:27 <flex> no u
23:27 <armabot> ct|kyle: timed out
23:27 <ct|kyle> no luke-jr
23:27 <flex> no u
23:27 <ct|kyle> no luke-jr
23:28 <armabot> rico: timed out
23:28 <rico> gay
23:28 <flex> http://savas.lf.dashjr.org/art/nou.html
23:28 <rico> my subwoofer vibrates the floor and windows.
23:28 <flex> kkthxbai
23:29 <flex> what's the watts rico?
23:29 <rico> no idea
23:29 <ct|kyle> noubia
23:30 <flex> ::::::::::::This just in, epsy is gay. Also catch his next wank live via webcam.
23:31 <rico> Finals - 20:30 Winner
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23:39 <pippijn> torres: << 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
23:39 <torres> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
23:39 <wrtlprnft> how does that work?
23:39 <wrtlprnft> torres: { cout << 1, 2, 3, 4, 5; }
23:39 <torres> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
23:39 <wrtlprnft> wha?
23:39 <rico> who?
23:39 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://pip.one09.net/files/txt/8170f02f41dfb96ab7d62c89532b338c.txt
23:39 <wrtlprnft> i thought it should output 5
23:40 <wrtlprnft> actually not
23:40 <wrtlprnft> output 1 and ignore the rest
23:40 <wrtlprnft> WHAT?
23:40 <pippijn> :P
23:40 <wrtlprnft> you can overload operator ,?
23:40 <pippijn> sure
23:40 <pippijn> very useful
23:41 <wrtlprnft> what's next? overload operator& (i know it's possible, thanks a lot)?
23:41 <pippijn> :P
23:41 <pippijn> it's rarely useful
23:42 <wrtlprnft> { cout << (cout << 4, 2); }
23:42 <wrtlprnft> torres: { cout << (cout << 4, 2); }
23:42 <torres> 4, 20x6cb988
23:42 <wrtlprnft> the meaning of that changes, though.
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23:43 <wrtlprnft> and why does it compile? shouldn't << return a std::ostream &, which is not a pointer?
23:44 <pippijn> probably overloaded operator << (ostream &)
23:44 <wrtlprnft> useful?
23:44 <wrtlprnft> s/\?/.
23:44 <pippijn> *shrug*
23:44 <pippijn> I don't know :-)
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23:46 <wrtlprnft> torres: << cout, &cout
23:46 <torres> 0x6cb868
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23:46 <wrtlprnft> torres: << cout << ", " << &cout
23:46 <torres> 0x6cb948, 0x6cb940
23:46 <pippijn> torres: << cout, &cout
23:46 <torres> 0x6cb948, 0x6cb940
23:46 <pippijn> torres: << cout, cout
23:46 <torres> 0x6cb948, 0x6cb948
23:47 <pippijn> hmm
23:47 <pippijn> torres: << (char *)cout
23:47 <torres> invalid cast from type 'ostream' to type 'char*'
23:47 <wrtlprnft> probably the second is a defrived ptr
23:47 <pippijn> possible
23:47 <pippijn> torres: << ETYPE(del)
23:47 <torres> const rio::io::basic_odelstream<char, char_traits<char> >
23:49 <wrtlprnft> torres: << ETYPE(cout)
23:49 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://pip.one09.net/files/up/buffer
23:49 <torres> lvalue ostream
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23:51 <pippijn> torres: << del (" + ") << 1 << 2 << 3 << 4 << 5
23:51 <wrtlprnft> out of curiosity, what happens if you declare a member function a friend?
23:51 <torres> 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5
23:52 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: it becomes a friend
23:52 <wrtlprnft> it's already a member.
23:52 <pippijn> oh you mean a member function of the class itself?
23:52 <wrtlprnft> friend std::ostream &operator << (std::ostream &os, buffer &buf)
23:52 <pippijn> then nothing happens
23:52 <wrtlprnft> is that a member or an external function?
23:52 <pippijn> that's not a member function
23:53 <pippijn> it's an external function
23:53 <wrtlprnft> defined inside the class
23:53 <wrtlprnft> great.
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23:53 <pippijn> doesn't matter
23:53 <pippijn> you need to declare it inside the class anyways
23:53 <pippijn> definition may be outside
23:54 <wrtlprnft> what happens with struct foo{friend foo(){}};?
23:54 <wrtlprnft> is foo a member or not?
23:54 <pippijn> uhm
23:54 <pippijn> you can't do that
23:54 <pippijn> as far as I know
23:55 <pippijn> constructors can't be declared friend
23:55 <wrtlprnft> argh, sorry
23:55 <wrtlprnft> s/foo/bar
23:55 <wrtlprnft> it wasn't supposed to be a constructor
23:55 <pippijn> well
23:55  * wrtlprnft is sleepy
23:55 <pippijn> then bar needs to have a type
23:55 <pippijn> and then it works
23:55 <pippijn> but bar is not a member
23:55 <wrtlprnft> argh, /me is really sleepy
23:55 <wrtlprnft> and the function is still called foo.
23:56 <wrtlprnft> ah, so anything prefixed with friend is external
23:56 <pippijn> struct foo { friend void bar () { } }; // bar is external, not a member
23:56 <pippijn> yes
23:57  * wrtlprnft wonders if you can have a class and global function of the same name
23:57 <pippijn> no
23:57 <wrtlprnft> ah, ok
23:57 <pippijn> because you would get ambiguities
23:57 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i see it ;-)
23:58 <pippijn> struct foo { }; int bar () { foo (); /* calls constructor of foo */ }
23:58 <pippijn> void foo (); struct foo { }; int bar () { foo (); /* calls what? */ }
23:58 <wrtlprnft> both :P
23:58 <wrtlprnft> nah, stupid idea
23:58 <pippijn> sure, and recursively ;)
23:59 <wrtlprnft> torres: namespace ns {struct foo{friend void ::foo() {}};} int main(){}
23:59 <torres> return type specification for constructor invalid
23:59 <wrtlprnft> ::foo isn't a constructor
23:59 <pippijn> hmm
23:59 <pippijn> interesting
23:59 <pippijn> torres: -c void foo(); namespace ns {struct foo{friend void ::foo() {}};}
23:59 <torres> return type specification for constructor invalid

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