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Log from 2008-02-07:
--- Day changed Thu Feb 07 2008
00:00 <pippijn> !peek
00:00 <matrix> 1.0000000000 2.0000000000 3.0000000000
00:00 <matrix> 1.0000000000 2.0000000000 3.0000000000
00:00 <matrix> 1.0000000000 2.0000000000 3.0000000000
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00:00 <z-man> umm, interesting
00:01 <pippijn> restarted to allow comments in commands
00:01 <pippijn> I hope
00:01 <pippijn> !1 2 3
00:01 <pippijn> !1 2 3
00:01 <pippijn> !1 2 3
00:01 <pippijn> !3 3 matrix # means "make 3x3 matrix out of the stuff I entered before"
00:01 <pippijn> !peek # looks at the value currently at the top of the stack without popping it off
00:01 <matrix> 1.0000000000 2.0000000000 3.0000000000
00:01 <matrix> 1.0000000000 2.0000000000 3.0000000000
00:01 <matrix> 1.0000000000 2.0000000000 3.0000000000
00:01 <pippijn> !pop # does pop it off
00:01 <matrix> 1.0000000000 2.0000000000 3.0000000000
00:01 <matrix> 1.0000000000 2.0000000000 3.0000000000
00:01 <matrix> 1.0000000000 2.0000000000 3.0000000000
00:02 <pippijn> !pop # again will cause an error
00:02 <matrix> Error: empty stack
00:02 <pippijn> !peek # too
00:02 <matrix> Error: empty stack
00:02 <pippijn> !1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 3 3 matrix
00:02 <pippijn> !dup add peek
00:02 <matrix> 2.0000000000 4.0000000000 6.0000000000
00:02 <matrix> 2.0000000000 4.0000000000 6.0000000000
00:02 <matrix> 2.0000000000 4.0000000000 6.0000000000
00:03 <pippijn> that was "duplicate, add the two matrices on the stack, popping them off and push the result"
00:03 <pippijn> !mult peek
00:03 <matrix> Error: empty stack
00:03 <pippijn> oops
00:03 <pippijn> !1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 3 3 matrix dup mult peek
00:03 <matrix> 6.0000000000 12.0000000000 18.0000000000
00:03 <matrix> 6.0000000000 12.0000000000 18.0000000000
00:03 <matrix> 6.0000000000 12.0000000000 18.0000000000
00:03 <luke-jr> pippijn:
00:03 <pippijn> luke-jr: yes
00:04 <pippijn> luke-jr: my matrix lib powered by perl :-)
00:06 <luke-jr> ok
00:07 <pippijn> I even have variables :-)
00:07 <pippijn> !var store_mat
00:07 <Mixnetwork> somebody knows if map rotation is possible also aftre 3 or 4 rounds as just 1 round or 1 match
00:07 <pippijn> now the matrix is inside "var"
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00:10 <z-man> Mixnetwork: only every round. You'll have to duplicate entries to make them last longer.
00:13 <Mixnetwork> oh ok, so i must make 4 time same config to load
00:13 <z-man> No, you just have to put the file multiple times into the rotation.
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00:14 <pippijn> !1 var store_num list_num
00:14 <matrix> var
00:14 <Mixnetwork> ah , ok by the way i found my fault now
00:14 <pippijn> !load_num pop
00:14 <matrix> Error: empty stack
00:14 <pippijn> :-\
00:14 <pippijn> oh
00:14 <pippijn> !var load_num pop
00:14 <matrix> 1
00:14 <pippijn> :-)
00:33 <luke-jr> pippijn: do you have IM btw?
00:35 <pippijn> several, yes
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00:36 <luke-jr> pippijn: what addy? :þ
00:37 <pippijn> what kind of IM?
00:37 <luke-jr> anything standards-compliant is fine
00:38 <pippijn> pippijn@gryphus.homeunix.net
00:46 <luke-jr> pippijn: going to auth me? :þ
00:46 <pippijn> luke-jr: nothing is asking me to
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00:49 <luke-jr> pippijn: can't contact your server
00:49 <luke-jr> <remote-server-not-found xmlns="urn:ietf:þarams:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas"/>
00:50 <pippijn> [00:53:57] Received error packet [remote-server-not-found]
00:51 <luke-jr> pippijn: no DNS entry if I do a manual lookup either
00:52 <pippijn> ping gryphus.homeunix.net
00:52 <pippijn> PING gryphus.homeunix.net (85.180.69.128) 56(84) bytes of data.
00:52 <luke-jr> dig SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.gryphus.homeunix.net @4.2.2.2
00:57 <pippijn> luke-jr: try pip88nl@gmail.com
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05:27 <Hoax-> #kill xfroggy
05:27 <armabot> xfroggy will die on Thu Feb 7 05:33:03 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Hoax-
05:27 <Hoax-> #kill ct|kyle
05:27 <armabot> ct|kyle will die on Thu Feb 7 05:33:09 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Hoax-
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05:27 <ct|kyle> lol
05:27 <luke-jr> #rating ct|ky13
05:28 <luke-jr> #rating ct_ky13
05:28 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'ct|ky13'!
05:28 <armabot> luke-jr: ct_ky13 is 1460th with a rating of 1202-1454 (from 1088-1479)
05:28 <luke-jr> ow
05:31 <Stewie-arma> #kill xfroggy
05:32 <armabot> xfroggy will die on Thu Feb 7 05:37:30 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Stewie-arma
05:32 <xfroggy> :'(
05:32 <ct|kyle> #rating ~_x_~
05:32 <Stewie-arma> yay!
05:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: ~_x_~ is 258th with a rating of 1512-1560 (from 1506-1551)
05:32 <Stewie-arma> ewww
05:33 <Stewie-arma> what a froob
05:33 <xfroggy> LOL
05:33 <luke-jr> #rating 0:luke@dashjr.org
05:33 <armabot> luke-jr: 0:luke@dashjr.org is 510th with a rating of 1449-1543 (from 1450-1542)
05:33 <luke-jr> :/
05:33 <Stewie-arma> #rating stewie
05:33 <armabot> Stewie-arma: stewie is 1580th with a rating of 1150-1850
05:33 <Stewie-arma> hmmm pwned!
05:33 <Stewie-arma> damn I'm good.
05:34 <xfroggy> O.o
05:34 <Stewie-arma> even though I haven't played in like a year or something.
05:35 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: nonsense
05:35 <luke-jr> well
05:35 <Stewie-arma> yes sense
05:35 <luke-jr> not quite nonsense
05:35 <luke-jr> since your rating there is default
05:35 <luke-jr> meaning you haven't played
05:35 <luke-jr> and that's where everyone starts out
05:38 <Stewie-arma> eh
05:39 <Stewie-arma> I'm noticing a down-fall in activity in fortress...
05:39 <luke-jr> 1150-1850 is what people start out with
05:39 <Stewie-arma> I understood that
05:39 <Stewie-arma> I just checked the server list...
05:39 <Stewie-arma> actually I am noticing a down-fall in activity period...
05:42 <Stewie-arma> omg we got sound back in 0.2.8.2.1?
05:50 <luke-jr> sound always worked in 0.2.8…
05:52 <Stewie-arma> not for mac.
05:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:54 <Stewie-arma> but I don't need sound, so I use 0.3.x
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08:16 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/?authonly=1
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12:55 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7771 /private/z-man/test/: directory for tests
12:58 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7772 /private/z-man/test/bzr/ (. trunk/ trunk/file): added trunk for bzr test
13:02 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7773 /private/z-man/test/bzr/trunk/file: change from svn.
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13:37 <spidey> what the hell would be the use of a 35 teraflop pc?
13:39 <z-man-work> To play crysis with more than 10 fsp?
13:39 <z-man-work> err, fps.
13:43 <spidey> lol
13:45 <spidey> z-man-work, ok...what would be the use of a 360teraflop system?
13:45 <z-man-work> To do so at full detail level on a screen with more that 640x480 resolution?
13:45 <spidey> lol
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16:21 <guru3> wooo
16:21 <guru3> i probably didn't fail math
16:22 <MrBougo> wooo
16:31 <wrtlprnft> wd!
16:35 <guru3> yeah
16:35 <guru3> and as a bonus
16:35 <guru3> exams are over
16:35 <guru3> i'm feeling very happy righ tnow
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18:04 <guru3> argh
18:06 <guru3> someone help me test tag
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18:17 <guru3> z-man-work: would the lines of an explosion never ging away be a new bug?
18:17 <z-man-work> odd question :) YES.
18:17 <guru3> because somehow that's happened on my client
18:18 <guru3> and really
18:18 <guru3> it's the most annoying thing
18:20 <guru3> went away on new round/match
18:20 <z-man-work> You don't have a debug recording, I assume?
18:21 <guru3> nope -_-
18:22 <guru3> just know that some crazy shit happened with explosions
18:22 <guru3> probably a one in a million thing
18:22 <guru3> i'm still wondering how taggedCycle winds up NULL on ocaision and the zone ends up sitting there
18:23 <z-man-work> When do you set taggedCycle?
18:23 <guru3> in the init
18:23 <z-man-work> And to what?
18:24 <guru3> ggame.cpp
18:24 <guru3> in init_game_objects
18:24 <guru3> i set it to the first spawned cycle
18:24 <guru3> after cycle = new gCycle
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18:25 <guru3> i set it to that cycle
18:25 <guru3> it sets its velocity to 0
18:25 <guru3> either when taggedCycle == NULL
18:25 <guru3> or taggedyCicle->Player() is false
18:27 <z-man-work> Ah, that gets false when the player quits.
18:27 <guru3> yeah i was having problems with that
18:27 <guru3> and players committing suicide
18:28 <z-man-work> Well, make the tagged player immortal :) Just let him lose points when he drives into walls.
18:29 <guru3> well enter respawning
18:29 <guru3> being it still interacts with you even if you're flsahing
18:29 <guru3> *flashing
18:29 <guru3> there's actually a really daring tactic i developed playing with the AIs
18:29 <guru3> if you get tagged you loose nothing immediately
18:29 <guru3> but you can't tag anyne for 2 seconds
18:30 <guru3> after 10 seconds, you loose 2 points every 10 seconds
18:30 <guru3> you have an 8 second window in which you can get a point
18:30 <guru3> that's the bit that excites me
18:30 <K-Yo> guru3, still need tester?
18:31 <guru3> in a minute or two
18:31 <guru3> doing a handfull more tweaks
18:31 <guru3> when the zone stops moving i want it to spin and expand until someone is caught
18:31 <K-Yo> ah
18:31 <K-Yo> nice
18:32 <K-Yo> someone did that in a solo sumo
18:36 <guru3> z-man-work: if i set expansion speed = 1
18:36 <guru3> how fast is that?
18:36 <z-man-work> One unit per second.
18:37 <z-man-work> Also known as SLOW.
18:38 <guru3> ok :>
18:38 <guru3> positive is faster right?
18:38 <z-man-work> Yes.
18:38 <guru3> ok
18:39 <guru3> wel
18:39 <guru3> let's hope this compiles
18:40 <guru3> hmm
18:40 <guru3> failes
18:41 <guru3> i can't do GetVlocity() == eCoord(0,0) it seems
18:45 <z-man-work> It's a bad idea to compare floats exactly anyway.
18:45 <guru3> haiiiii :<
18:45 <z-man-work> use GetVelocity().NormSquared() < EPS
18:45 <wrtlprnft> ?!
18:45 <wrtlprnft> inline bool eCoord::operator==(const eCoord &a) const{ return ((*this-a).NormSquared()<=(EPS*EPS)*se_EstimatedRangeOfMult(*this,a));
18:45 <wrtlprnft> }
18:45 <guru3> i created a bool instead
18:45 <wrtlprnft> that's not compating exactly anyways ;)
18:46 * wrtlprnft is amazed that there's one thing he remembered better about arma's sourcecode than z-man-work :-P
18:47 <z-man-work> heh
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18:48 <guru3> let's see if it compiles now
18:48 <guru3> im forced to do all my editing with vi
18:48 <guru3> now that the original source is on my server
18:48 <wrtlprnft> vi or vim?
18:49 <guru3> vim
18:49 <guru3> righto
18:49 <guru3> time for some testing
18:50 <guru3> GOD DAMNIT
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18:50 <guru3> IT DID IT AGAIN z-man-work q
18:50 <guru3> permanent explosion
18:50 <guru3> oh it went away no
18:50 <guru3> now
18:51 <z-man-work> The past bugs that looked like this were explosions left over from the last round.
18:53 <guru3> it could be that
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19:01 <K-Yo> guru3, maybe set the brakes negatives for the tagged and positive for others
19:01 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v tag
19:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Tag Test (81.235.164.45:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080206 unix dedic, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (5/16): cT¤K-Yo, E2D2, freako, Tank Program, wrtlprnft |mbc|
19:02 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: that's not possible :-(
19:02 <K-Yo> why?
19:02 <wrtlprnft> clients won't do it
19:02 <K-Yo> not event codable?
19:02 <K-Yo> ah
19:02 <K-Yo> too bad
19:02 <wrtlprnft> the tagged guy would lag like hell
19:02 <K-Yo> aren't we soon releasing a newx client?
19:02 <wrtlprnft> it's a hack.
19:02 <K-Yo> yup
19:02 <wrtlprnft> it would be hard to add real clientside support
19:02 <K-Yo> ok
19:02 <wrtlprnft> this is wating for the new config system and/or scripting
19:03 <wrtlprnft> so you may expect something in about two years.
19:03 <K-Yo> then guru3 forget my last message but maybe still brake positive?
19:03 <wrtlprnft> negative?
19:03 <K-Yo> roger that
19:03 <K-Yo> yep
19:03 <K-Yo> tsry negative ><
19:03 <wrtlprnft> what you can do is keep resetting the brake reservoir of the tagged guy to 1
19:03 <K-Yo> and only him?
19:03 <epsy> can someone explain me how come that the EXACT contents of my screen sessions gets on the printer on the other side of my netw?
19:04 <wrtlprnft> it'll still lag if the tagged guy brakes too much
19:04 <wrtlprnft> o_O
19:04 <wrtlprnft> epsy: wormholes.
19:04 <epsy> :S
19:05 <epsy> it always happen when i'm using screen trough ssh
19:05 <K-Yo> epsy, so you don't need your screen anymore?
19:06 <K-Yo> twill you use your printer to play arma now?
19:06 <K-Yo> -t -.-
19:06 <epsy> K-Yo, before speaking about speak, learn what screen is, thx
19:06 <epsy> screen*
19:06 <epsy> jeez
19:06 <epsy> typos ruin me
19:07 <K-Yo> :'(
19:07 <wrtlprnft> the screen session contents get printed out on the CLIENT?!
19:07 <epsy> on the printer with is conected to the other computer
19:08 <epsy> guru3, xclan.armagetron.co.uk
19:09 <wrtlprnft> epsy: do modprobe -r hci_usb as root
19:09 <wrtlprnft> that should fix your problem
19:09 <epsy> FATAL: Module hci_usb is in use.
19:09 <wrtlprnft> aww
19:09 <wrtlprnft> that should have unloaded your usb driver
19:10 <guru3> epsy: i think i enabled it
19:10 <epsy> wrtlprnft, the printer isn't on the same machine than the ssh client
19:10 <z-man-work> It would just get the print jobs queued for later printing anyway ;)
19:10 <epsy> guru3, ok thx
19:11 <wrtlprnft> actually it wouldn't do anything, come to think of it
19:12 <z-man-work> Hmm, what is worse, getting a change twice in the changelog, or potentially lose commits that happen at the wrong time?
19:12 <wrtlprnft> hci_usb is for stuff like mice and keyboards only
19:12 <wrtlprnft> getting EVERY change twice?
19:12 <epsy> haha thx wrtl
19:13 <epsy> if it worked i would have no kb/mouse
19:13 <z-man-work> No, just the changes that happen at a wrong time.
19:13 <z-man-work> But there would be more double changes (only in the log, one instance will be a NOP) than potential losses.
19:14 <epsy> lp-121 (stdin) epsy 2k Compl�t� �
19:14 <epsy> Thu Feb 7 19:06:38 2008
19:14 <z-man-work> And there would only be losses if people actually use checkouts instead of full branches, which we could disallow by policy.
19:14 <epsy> O_o
19:14 <wrtlprnft> so i'm supposed to download a full branch?
19:15 <z-man-work> They're not big.
19:15 <wrtlprnft> ok, then
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19:20 <guru3> wooo suicide exploit is gone
19:20 <guru3> but something else doesn't seem to be quite right
19:23 <epsy> TEAM_NAME_N doesn't support spaces, right?
19:38 <guru3> whoa i love this function name
19:38 <guru3> "TransferPositionCorrectionToDistanceCorrection"
19:45 <z-man-work> Well, it does what the name says :)
19:45 <kidanger> guru3: you make tag test ?
19:46 <guru3> yes
19:47 <kidanger> Nice
19:47 <guru3> z-man-work: when you die before respawning is the cycle ever destroyed?
19:47 <z-man-work> It's not directly destroyed when you die, anyway.
19:47 <guru3> because someone the taggedCycle is getting set to NULL
19:47 <guru3> and i'm not doing it
19:47 <z-man-work> Probably in only gets destroyed for real at the end of the round.
19:48 <z-man-work> it's a tJUST_CONTROLLED_PTR?
19:48 <guru3> taggedCycle is a tJUST_CONTROLLED_PTR<gCycle>
19:48 <guru3> yes
19:48 <z-man-work> Those don't get set automatically.
19:48 <guru3> ie they should never auto become NULL
19:49 <z-man-work> I'd suggest you put your code into a bzr branch for easier review, but that's not ready yet :)
19:49 <z-man-work> yes.
19:49 <guru3> oy vey
19:49 <guru3> really
19:49 <guru3> i'm not sure what's happening
19:49 <guru3> you suicide
19:50 <guru3> and somehow in that instant
19:50 <z-man-work> Wooq, a bzr branch is actually smaller than a SVN checkout
19:50 <guru3> or whenever you with the cycle dies
19:50 <guru3> the zone gets put into stay still mode
19:50 <guru3> and then you immediately reenter it
19:50 <guru3> and it doesn't recognize you as the last person there
19:50 <guru3> argh i can't figur eit otu
19:51 <guru3> maybe tomorrow
19:51 <guru3> dinner now
19:51 <z-man-work> You know you get an all NEW cycle when you respawn?
19:51 <guru3> that... would explain it quite nicely
19:51 <guru3> ie it's a new object with a new pointer?
19:51 <z-man-work> Yep.
19:51 <guru3> where does it set that?
19:52 <z-man-work> In the RESPAWN_HACK code in gGame.cpp, I think
19:52 <z-man-work> off home
19:52 <guru3> ok
19:52 <guru3> thanks
19:54 <guru3> dinner now, and that fixed it
20:00 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: whatever algorithm/escaping you have for player login names, any chance we can get it for a tString config item?
20:00 <wrtlprnft> i know we have tConfItemLine or somesuch, but you can't query the value of those things without setting them to ""
20:01 <wrtlprnft> epsy: no :( if you really need spaces make language strings
20:01 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should make them line config items
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20:17 <zmanuel> Did I already moan about the SF SVN repository network performance?
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20:27 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i just figured out that using "" works
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20:41 <deja_vu__> aw
20:41 <deja_vu__> not again
20:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it does?!
20:42 -!- deja_vu__ is now known as deja_vu
20:43 <epsy> looks like
20:45 <wrtlprnft> go figure.
20:45 <wrtlprnft> escapes don't work though, but who cares?
20:46 <wrtlprnft> it's a tString feature it seems
20:46 <wrtlprnft> that's why i didn't see it before
20:46 <wrtlprnft> you can use single quotes, too
20:48 * wrtlprnft should have guesses that before
20:48 <wrtlprnft> \n works, after all
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20:48 <wrtlprnft> *guessed
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21:36 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7774 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. README): tron -> tronad
21:37 <zmanuel> yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss!
21:37 <zmanuel> Finally.
21:49 <wrtlprnft> it does make svn blame less useful, though
22:08 <zmanuel> Yeah. The problem is that SF does not allow revising property revisions.
22:08 <zmanuel> I think. I should test it :)
22:09 <zmanuel> Anyway, if we'd host SVN ourselves, we wouldn't have this problem.
22:10 <guru3> we'd have a whole plathorough of otherones
22:10 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
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22:16 <wrtlprnft> the problem is that SVN is our biggest asset after the forums
22:17 <wrtlprnft> *before the forums, actually
22:17 <guru3> damn
22:17 <guru3> was gonna say thanks for a moment there
22:18 <wrtlprnft> heh
22:18 <wrtlprnft> the forums are very important :D
22:19 <wrtlprnft> svn is at least recoverable if someone made a private backup
22:19 <guru3> i take a private backup every now and then
22:19 <wrtlprnft> and if they didn't someone would still have the latest source
22:20 <wrtlprnft> if the forums, guru3 and the domain armagetronad.net just disappeared we'd have some real trouble
22:20 * guru3 whistles
22:20 <guru3> bus factor: 1
22:21 <wrtlprnft> avoid roads and buses if you can…
22:21 <guru3> i cross them daily
22:23 <wrtlprnft> R.I.P. armagetronad
22:23 * guru3 whistles
22:24 <wrtlprnft> do not do the april fool's joke you're just thinking of
22:24 <guru3> thanks for the idea ;)\
22:24 <wrtlprnft> speaking of which, if we're going to do anything we should plan ahead, given the average time it takes to do things in here ;)
22:24 <guru3> that's true
22:25 <guru3> not a lot of different things we can do though
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22:26 <wrtlprnft> point armagetronad.net, www.armagetronad.net, forums.armagetronad.net and wiki.armagetronad.net to some domaingrabber's IP?
22:26 <guru3> propogation time :S
22:27 <wrtlprnft> set the TTL to an hour a day before doing the move?
22:28 <guru3> don't know if i can do that
22:28 <wrtlprnft> maybe it's a stupid idea
22:35 <cusco> yes you can do that
22:35 <cusco> tho
22:35 <cusco> you should create your own copy of a site like that
22:35 <z-man> Discussing this in the public IRC channel is a stupid idea, I'm sure of that :)
22:35 <cusco> (chekc the content if it speaks in tron related stuff)
22:36 <cusco> and then add in a very small size - disclaimer: this is the 1st april's fiool. you've just been fooled
22:36 <cusco> /clear
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22:42 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7775 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. x): added
22:42 <guru3> what a name -_-
22:42 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7776 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. x): updated
22:52 <K-Yo> the next one will be r7777 :D
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23:09 * wrtlprnft hopes it won't be a boring test commit
23:10 * luke-jr rushes to the code!
23:10 <luke-jr> :þ
23:11 <wrtlprnft> whoever gets to implement flying cycles in r7777 gets a dollar if they give me their paypal account name
23:11 <z-man> Quick, make a real commit!
23:11 * z-man removed x agai
23:11 <z-man> n
23:11 <wrtlprnft> don't have one :(
23:11 <wrtlprnft> desperately searching for an idea
23:12 <z-man> You have about two minutes.
23:13 <luke-jr> lol
23:13 * wrtlprnft should have done that stealth flag buisness earlier
23:13 * luke-jr actually has uncommitted flying cycle code
23:13 <luke-jr> it's buggy as heck, but… it exists :þ
23:14 <luke-jr> unless I trashed it :x
23:14 <luke-jr> I forget
23:15 <wrtlprnft> hmm
23:15 <wrtlprnft> why does the random cycle color code devide by zero?
23:15 <wrtlprnft> err, two
23:15 <wrtlprnft> and it's divide
23:16 <luke-jr> ugh, is 7777 going to be a BUGFIX⁇
23:16 <wrtlprnft> nvm, i get it
23:16 <wrtlprnft> no bug to fix
23:16 <z-man> No, if nobody is faster, it's going to be that x is getting removed again.
23:16 <wrtlprnft> bugfix is better than “removed stupid x test file”
23:16 <luke-jr> lol
23:17 <wrtlprnft> i wonder if z-man's color distance function is perfect
23:17 <wrtlprnft> maybe it should return the sum of the squares of the components' difference
23:18 <z-man> Wouldn't hurt.
23:18 <wrtlprnft> sorry for ripping at your code z-man, but that's what i had open when starting to look for a real commit
23:19 <wrtlprnft> CRAP!
23:19 <wrtlprnft> can't compile
23:19 <wrtlprnft> patience
23:19 <z-man> I've suspended the sync :)
23:19 <wrtlprnft> stupid zthreads problem
23:20 * wrtlprnft wants a hexacore pc
23:21 <wrtlprnft> now i tried to compile with CODELEVEL=3… stupid me
23:22 <wrtlprnft> ok. survived a round without crashing AND sparks enabled
23:23 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7777 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Implemented ramps and flying cycles
23:23 <wrtlprnft> now that's an overstatement
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23:25 * wrtlprnft wonders if you could implement ramps and flying cyles by changing only one file
23:25 <z-man> And Lasers? What about lasers?
23:25 <wrtlprnft> that's 8888
23:25 <z-man> awww
23:26 <z-man> Your best bet would have been to cram it all into gCycle.cpp.
23:27 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7778 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. x): deleted test file
23:27 * wrtlprnft saved the day. sort of
23:27 <wrtlprnft> #night
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23:27 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:28 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7779 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
23:28 <armabot> armagetronad: The branch used for development of this went out of sync with SVN for branching scheme changes. Oh well.
23:28 <armabot> armagetronad: Here are the contents.
23:28 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7780 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Actually abort if there is nothing to do.
23:30 <luke-jr> O.o
23:30 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: what was it?
23:35 <wrtlprnft> RTFL
23:35 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp?r1=7777&r2=7776&pathrev=7777
23:35 <wrtlprnft> kill me if you like
23:36 * wrtlprnft is actually asleep now
23:40 * pippijn actually got another idea on his ideas page :O
23:40 <pippijn> http://armagetronad.xinutec.org/ideas.html
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