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Log from 2007-12-29:
--- Day changed Sat Dec 29 2007
00:31 -!- Lucifer_bed [n=satan@adsl-70-135-74-253.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
00:40 <z-man> hey, wb, Lucifer_bed :)
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01:32 <Lucifer_bed> heh, oops
01:32  * Lucifer_bed doesn't use this computer very often
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02:28 <beta|AoS|> hi
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02:56 <z-man> Oh great, so we have a case of a moronic player using an even more moronic friend's router. /me gets the feeling this is going to be one of those threads.
02:56 <z-man> By the way, I think I figured out why most of the posts of users asking for help in our support forum appear to come from idiots:
02:57 <z-man> Our documentation is actually good :)
02:57 <z-man> Which means: anyone with half a brain can find it and find in it what he needs, unless it is sort of exotic.
02:58 <z-man> Which leaves only smart people with tough problems or dumb people with silly problems to post.
02:58  * z-man is sorry if this offends anyone who is present.
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04:20 <tramshed> hmm, anyone in here run an armagetron server on bsd?
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08:24 <beta|AoS|> #ls ota
08:24 <beta|AoS|> #lastseen ota
08:24 <beta|AoS|> ><
08:24 <armabot> beta|AoS|: timed out
08:24 <armabot> beta|AoS|: ota has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 3 minutes ago.
09:58 <luke-jr> http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Dave/comicinn1.png
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11:02 <wrtlprnft> hi, i just downloaded your program and now there's this weird-looking window on my screen that has a lot of text on it and sais “next” near the bottom
11:02 <wrtlprnft> help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:02 <wrtlprnft> *says
11:10 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: press next!
11:11 <MrBougo> hah wait
11:11 <MrBougo> is that REAL?
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11:40 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: of course it is
11:40 <wrtlprnft> thanks MrBougo 
11:40 <MrBougo> nowai :o
11:40 <MrBougo> you're welcome
11:40 <wrtlprnft> but now there's just another similar window
11:40 <wrtlprnft> and it still says “next”
11:40 <MrBougo> press next till youre bored
11:40 <MrBougo> and accept the licence agreement
11:40 <wrtlprnft> thanks a bundle
11:41 <wrtlprnft> now there's another window that doesn't have “next” in it
11:41 <wrtlprnft> but it does say “finish”
11:41 <MrBougo> oh you're screwed, pull the plug from your PC
11:41 <MrBougo> before the cops come
11:42 <wrtlprnft> now my mouse doesn't move anymore
11:42 <MrBougo> but give me ops first
11:42 <wrtlprnft> which plug, actually?
11:42 <MrBougo> ANY
11:42 <MrBougo> ALL OF THEM
11:42 <MrBougo> QUICK
11:42 <wrtlprnft> that green round one apparently wasn't right
11:42 <MrBougo> pffrt
--- Log closed Sat Dec 29 11:42:43 2007
--- Log opened Sat Dec 29 11:43:06 2007
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11:43 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 20 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
11:43 <MrBougo> fast reboot
11:43 -!- Irssi: Join to #armagetron was synced in 10 secs
11:43 <wrtlprnft> indeed
11:43 <MrBougo> uptime pwnt
11:43 <wrtlprnft> i don't think that was a good idea
11:43 <wrtlprnft>  11:43:53 up 349 days,  1:37, 10 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.01
11:44 <MrBougo> seriously, you're installing a windows program?
11:44 <wrtlprnft> any more questions?
11:44 <MrBougo> great, almost one year :o
11:44 <wrtlprnft> no, of course not
11:44 <wrtlprnft> and i'd know how to, don't worry
11:44 <MrBougo> :p
11:44 <MrBougo> nice POTD on wikipedia
11:44 <wrtlprnft> that was just a response to z-man's stupid person, stupid problem vs. intelligent person, tough problem theory
11:45 <MrBougo> hrhr
11:46 <wrtlprnft> POTD = P<what?> of the day?
11:47 <MrBougo> picture
11:47 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Metrioptera_roeseli_male_Richard_Bartz.jpg
11:47 <wrtlprnft> ah
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11:50 <wrtlprnft> i guess it's a good thing that i've already had breakfast
11:50 <MrBougo> haha
11:51 <MrBougo> did you look at the closeup?
11:51 <MrBougo> cute!
11:51 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
11:51 <wrtlprnft> really sharp
11:51 <MrBougo> must be a nice camera
11:52 <wrtlprnft> yeah
11:52 <wrtlprnft> Make                            : Canon
11:52 <wrtlprnft> Camera Model Name               : Canon EOS 400D DIGITAL
11:53 <wrtlprnft> Aperture Value                  : 14.0
11:54 <wrtlprnft> Shutter Speed Value             : 1/200
11:54 <wrtlprnft> must have had a lot of light, too
11:54 <MrBougo> and a good tripod
11:54 <MrBougo> that photo is fake, definitely
11:55 <wrtlprnft> exactly
11:55 <wrtlprnft> it's a pov-ray rendering
11:55 <MrBougo> hrhr, great rendering anyway
11:55 <wrtlprnft> ask him to publish his povray source code
11:56 <wrtlprnft> i don't think povray even has a wireframe mode
11:57 <wrtlprnft> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Trithemis_kirbyi.jpg
11:57 <wrtlprnft> caught anothewr one!
11:58 <MrBougo> wow i love the wings
11:59 <MrBougo> hah, these 3d artists are mad
11:59 <MrBougo> http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=121
12:00 <wrtlprnft> neat
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12:21 <beta|AoS|> #lastseen ota
12:21 <armabot> beta|AoS|: ota be best seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
12:22 <beta|AoS|> #lastseen ^ota$
12:22 <armabot> beta|AoS|: timed out
12:22 <beta|AoS|> :/
12:22 <beta|AoS|> #help lastseen
12:22 <armabot> beta|AoS|: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
12:24 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen -f ota
12:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
12:25 <beta|AoS|> thx wrtlprnft
12:25 <wrtlprnft> looks like she hasn't been seen recently
12:26 <beta|AoS|> She was here yesterday. I just joined when she lived ><
12:30 <tramshed> kajsl;dkj
12:30 <tramshed> any of you run a server on bsd?
12:31 <arctanx> wrtlprnft: Heh I was just watching your ladle match youtube video and as you're all charging off at the start of the round I have Soundgarden - Rusty Cage going in the background "I'm gonna break... I'm gonna break!"
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12:38  * beta|AoS| tried to put a server on openbsd but the server died two days later.
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12:51 <wrtlprnft> arctanx: :D
12:53 <arctanx> I reckon arma needs an action trailer put together
12:54 <arctanx> showing off the different server types with captions and things
12:54 <arctanx> I might do that sometime
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13:10 <wrtlprnft> good luck
13:11 <wrtlprnft> now someone tell me why pressing the alt key for about 2 seconds closes the current window
13:11 <wrtlprnft> it's annoying
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15:47 <spidey> oh wow
15:48 <spidey> i'm actually getting faster speeds than what i'm paying for
15:49 <wrtlprnft> go, complain!
15:49 <spidey> no way
15:49 <spidey> i'm already complaining about them changing me from a static ip to dynamic
15:51 <wrtlprnft> wtf
15:52 <spidey> first call
15:52 <wrtlprnft> my mp3 player does very weird things when feeding it tracks with a name tag that's longer than 140 chars
15:52 <spidey> well, stop feeding it...maybe it's not hungry anymore
15:52 <wrtlprnft> x_X
15:52 <spidey> xD
15:53 <wrtlprnft> like appending the part of the name it doesn't like anymore to the artist tag
15:53 <wrtlprnft> and crashing when trying to play it
15:54 <spidey> heh
15:55 <wrtlprnft> i never thought something as simple as an mp3 player would have any reason to crash
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15:58 <beta|AoS|> fuzzing ftw
15:58 <beta|AoS|> everything can crash if you try hard enough
15:58 <spidey> wrtlprnft, my stereo crashes everytime i turn the microwave on
15:58 <beta|AoS|> (maybe not simple openbsd apps though)
15:59 <beta|AoS|> #lastseen -f ota
15:59 <armabot> beta|AoS|: ota has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 16 minutes ago.
16:03 <beta|AoS|> hm
16:03 <beta|AoS|> k i give up ><
16:03 <beta|AoS|> See you later all
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16:06 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
16:06 <spidey> i've always wondered why people use their clantags on irc
16:06 <spidey> xD
16:08 <wrtlprnft> spidey: well, that's an external influence
16:10 <spidey> lol
16:13 <vinavil> i'm redrawing the fortress map, i'm using an ellipse with golden ratio and fortresses in the two foci
16:22 <deja_vu> :O
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16:40 <vinavil> how di i move a ruler in inkscape?
16:40 <vinavil> do*
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17:21 <vinavil> epsy: that tool doesn't suggest a right translation of the svg file
17:21 <MrBougo> Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
17:22 <vinavil> anybody can transate me a svg in aamap?
17:46 <luke-jr> …
17:49 <vinavil> ...?
18:07 <MrBougo> no way... i can't be... TENTH?
18:07 <MrBougo> on the ircstats
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18:28 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: send me the map. gotta go for supper, but i'll do it later
18:28 <wrtlprnft> i think the online version is hosted somewhere on the CT servers, you can search for that
18:28 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: move a ruler?!
18:29 <vinavil> yes, i tried the ct version, but it doesn't seem to work
18:29 <vinavil> i wanted to move the rulers to have 0 coordinates centred with the paper
18:30 <vinavil> i'm trying to send you it with irc, should i use an email instead?
18:30 <vinavil> anyway, i started to do it by hand, point to point
18:31 <wrtlprnft> use some sort of pastebin
18:31 <wrtlprnft> g2g
18:31 <vinavil> so, let me know if you got a good output
18:31 <vinavil> well, later :)
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18:50 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: just select and move everything
18:50 <wrtlprnft> the bottom left of the page is (0,0)
18:50 <wrtlprnft> svg2aamap ignores the page dimension, anyways
18:51 <wrtlprnft> and how am i supposed to get your map?
18:52 <vinavil> that is what i asked
18:52 <vinavil> how do i send it to you?
18:52 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/
18:52 <wrtlprnft> probably the easiest way…
18:53 <vinavil> it is not loading the page
18:54 <wrtlprnft> o_O
18:54 <wrtlprnft> try just pastebin.ca
18:54 <wrtlprnft> but it works for me
18:54 <wrtlprnft> http://filebin.ca/ would be another method
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19:20 <vinavil> i did it, some how
19:20 <vinavil> 837466
19:40 <philippeqc> Hi!
19:41 <philippeqc> Does anyone has some objections to using cppunit to unit test our code? (well, at least the new parts)
19:44 <vinavil> Silence gives consent.
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19:45 <philippeqc> yeah, as much as I'd like that, I'll wait for some positive answers
19:46 <philippeqc> seing how I'm unable to fix the makefile for it to be used to compile the test (that means a new dependency) and have a nice target to execute all the test
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20:53 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: i don't really see a problem
20:54 <wrtlprnft> of course it'll still have to be possible to compile arma without another dependency. we've already got too many dependencies
20:54 <wrtlprnft> #ifdef FTW
20:54 <philippeqc> better yet: the unit test class are in subdirectories
20:54 <philippeqc> to the class they test
20:55 <philippeqc> so tFunctionTest.cpp would be in src/tools/unitTest/
20:55 <philippeqc> make <no param> does the same old thing
20:55 <philippeqc> make unittest compiles and execute all the unit test
20:56 <philippeqc> (or something in the form of)
20:56 <philippeqc> what do you think about that?
20:56 <wrtlprnft> i can't see how it'd do any harm
20:57 <wrtlprnft> of course, someone actually has to write code for arma for it to be of any use
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20:57 <philippeqc> the development is that dead ?
20:57 <vinavil> heh
20:57 <philippeqc> well, I am right now!
20:57 <philippeqc> to fix the ¤%#&%"" zone v2
20:58 <wrtlprnft> :D
20:58 <vinavil> why don't we merge with gltron and start everything again?
20:58 <philippeqc> why dont you start with that and tell us when you'r ready
20:59 <wrtlprnft> that's as good an idea as the US merging with the vatican
20:59 <philippeqc> ;)
20:59 <wrtlprnft> dimension wise
20:59 <vinavil> because i am not a programmer, i'm a storekeeper
21:00 <philippeqc> o, I though it was a "dont give religion nuts even more religious pretense"
21:01 <wrtlprnft> maybe the vatican was a bad choice
21:01 <wrtlprnft> and the us, too. armagetronad isn't evil ;)
21:01 <philippeqc> vinavil: the merge would be way to costly
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21:01 <philippeqc> nothing is as evil as the us
21:02 <wrtlprnft> maybe it's better to compare vinavil's proposed merge to a merge of the earth and an asteroid
21:03 <philippeqc> o yeah, whipe out earth, many fragments floating around, wait a few billion years for it to re-form in a ball and for life to re-emerge, on this now marginally bigger planet
21:05 <philippeqc> i dont see glTron as being smaller, just different. There are thing its very good at, and some we are very good at.
21:05 <vinavil> i see your "do it yourself" point of view, but that would have sense if the development had endless work to do and would be actualy doing it. the fact is development is dead and developers, actually except you, don't seem to be so enthusiastic to go on.
21:05 <vinavil> anyway i didn't mean a code merge, but a community merge.
21:05 <philippeqc> vinavil: too much work without end kills projects
21:06 <wrtlprnft> unplayable trunk state, too
21:06 <wrtlprnft> x_X
21:06 <philippeqc> just check zone v2. it was too big a break down, and is poluting the project
21:07 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: feel like updating the Makefile?
21:07 <philippeqc> I'd commit my new class and it (current minimal) test
21:07 <vinavil> it is because, while you take care of your part of the program, the others don't seem to do the same
21:07 <wrtlprnft> the community apparently has stopped producing people who are willing/able to continue developing arma :-(
21:07 <philippeqc> they arent in use anywhere
21:08 <philippeqc> vinavil: there is nothing to take care of, the trunk is majorly screwed
21:08 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: i don't know the makefile any better than you do
21:08 <wrtlprnft> sorry if i'm not helpful
21:08 <philippeqc> boo
21:08 <philippeqc> yes you do, I know your smart for those things
21:08 <vinavil> wrtlprnft: go in the main site and find the "become developer!" page.
21:09 <wrtlprnft> there's not much to say
21:09 <wrtlprnft> have an idea, fetch the source code, implement your idea, post it to the forums
21:09 <wrtlprnft> that's what pig did
21:10 <wrtlprnft> there is infact active development. Ed and voodoo are developing on the server side and making interesting servers
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21:10 <wrtlprnft> but they are hitting client side limits and i'm afraid we can't take their serverside work as it is
21:12 <philippeqc> added!
21:12 <vinavil> pig was inside the community and i bet he already knew how the program works. from outside it seems armagetron needs no help in developing.
21:13 <vinavil> there is a difference between "you can develop" and "we need new developers"
21:13 <spidey> ...
21:14 <wrtlprnft> it should be clear that there's no development going on…
21:14 <philippeqc> vinavil: there are many neat projects to do, like supporting "arena skin" from maps and server, and yet no one to do it.
21:14 <philippeqc> or willing to do it
21:15 <wrtlprnft> textures have hit the luke-jr binary resource barrier
21:15 <philippeqc> what?
21:15 <wrtlprnft> i don't think it's just luke-jr's fault, but the problem is that the way to do it is way too complicated
21:16 <philippeqc> is he blocking the addition of textures to the resource repo?
21:16 <wrtlprnft> no
21:16 <philippeqc> dont understand the binary resource barrier
21:16 <wrtlprnft> map files have a way to identify their place in the repository
21:17 <wrtlprnft> i still don't fully understand what it's needed for, but apparently it needs to be there
21:17 <wrtlprnft> how would you store that in an image
21:17 <wrtlprnft> of course you could use EXIF or some other metadata thing, but you'd have to reimplement that for every file type
21:18 <wrtlprnft> and find an easy way for resource makers to edit that data
21:18 <philippeqc> then remove that requirement
21:18 <wrtlprnft> suggest it and have your head ripped off
21:18 <philippeqc> My, http doesnt deal with that shit, why should we?
21:19 <philippeqc> who made him king of the res repo?
21:22 <philippeqc> lets just have an interface where people post resource under their name and under at least one directory, and that would be enough
21:28 <wrtlprnft> and have a file somewhere where arma stores when it downloaded each file and when it was last used
21:28 <wrtlprnft> so it can prune old resources
21:29 <wrtlprnft> that's exactly what sounds reasonable to me
21:29 <wrtlprnft> but ask luke-jr, he'll bombard you with arguments involving extensibility to millions of resource files and sunblocker
21:31 <philippeqc> it just need to be downloaded and store at the same "location" as it is stored on the resource repo
21:32 <philippeqc> well, lets call our system version 1, and his, version 2.
21:33 <philippeqc> we will do the simple implementation first, and then go on with the complex-fix-it-all after
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22:52 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: just because map files can identify their place in the repo doesn't mean it's necessary for proper functionality
22:53 <philippeqc> luke-jr: so you are saying we can have a <author>/<dir>/<file> for binary resources?
22:53 <luke-jr> pruning cached resources works the same with or without such metadata
22:54 <luke-jr> philippeqc: <author>/<category>/<name>-<version>.<ext> is always how it's been
22:54 <luke-jr> no reason it can't work for binary files as well
22:54 <philippeqc> what about importing of files in the res repo?
22:54 <philippeqc> could you fix the uploader for that?
22:55 <luke-jr> right now it just deals with XML; I don't know when/if I would have time to extend it, but it shouldn't be too complex
22:55 <luke-jr> IIRC, wrtlprnft's poked the code a bit- maybe he can
22:55 <luke-jr> perhaps check EXIF data if it's available, and if not prompt for metadata
22:56 <luke-jr> (it already is a multistage process, so that shouldn't be much work to do)
22:56 <philippeqc> so what was the trouble wrt's saw?
22:56 <luke-jr> no idea
22:57 <wrtlprnft> what about all that buisness with zip files that was discussed on the forums?
22:57 <luke-jr> that was ZIP files
22:57 <luke-jr> which, if implemented, should really be transparent, which would be pretty complex
22:58 <luke-jr> would be far easier to use gzip'd HTTP
22:59 <luke-jr> IIRC, part of the ZIP discussion was adding a "sub-component" level for resources that are <author>/<category>/<name>-<version>/<subcomponent>.<ext>
22:59 <philippeqc> i have a biggy about unit test
22:59 <luke-jr> a what?
22:59 <philippeqc> could someone update their aa's trunk and install cppunit
22:59 <philippeqc> a biggy, a probzy, my noodle is having trooble,
23:00 <philippeqc> http://www.pastebin.ca/837754
23:00 <philippeqc> is the "makefile" to put in src/tools/unitTest
23:00 <philippeqc> compiles, but doesnt link
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23:04 <wrtlprnft> oh, is armabot broken?
23:06 <philippeqc> yes, it would seem so
23:06 <wrtlprnft> meh.
23:06 <wrtlprnft> #list cia
23:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
23:06 <wrtlprnft> #listhandlers
23:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: commitnotify, armabotupdater, aauptest, wikiupdater, test, aabetaupdate, wormuxnotify
23:07 <wrtlprnft> #describe commitnotify
23:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: commitnotify: Matches on 'armagetronad', Performs action of type: 'echo', On channel: #armagetron, Details: $message
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23:10 <philippeqc> fixed the "Makefile", ldflags line should be: LDFLAGS= -L/usr/lib/ -lcppunit
23:10 <philippeqc> now it complains about multiple definition of main
23:10 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't even let me compile
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23:11 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: that's where you'll probably need #ifn?def magic
23:11 <philippeqc> in a cpp class?
23:11 <philippeqc> I'll check all the files
23:12 <wrtlprnft> main() isn't a class member
23:12 <philippeqc> main is the only thing beside some #include in that file
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23:13 <philippeqc> had a double entry in the makefile
23:13 <philippeqc> !!!
23:14 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:14 <philippeqc> gcc -c main.cpp main.cpp -o out
23:20 <wrtlprnft> anyways, armabot isn't broken, cia is
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23:42 <eddiefantastic> vinavil: rain? hi
23:43 <vinavil> hello eddie
23:43 <vinavil> so, the idea is a new map for fortress
23:43 <eddiefantastic> ok
23:44 <vinavil> an ellipse buildt on the golden ratio with the fortress in the two foci
23:44 <vinavil> i have already did the math part
23:44 <eddiefantastic> ok, how can I help?
23:45 <vinavil> i drew the svg, a good translation in aamap would help
23:45 <vinavil> or i have to draw it point by point
23:46 <vinavil> but the tool in ct site isn't doing it right
23:46 <vinavil> i get an odd output
23:46 <eddiefantastic> have you got the svg?
23:46 <vinavil> sure
23:47 <vinavil> <Wall>
23:47 <vinavil> 	<Point x="649.343" y="-565.811" />
23:47 <vinavil> 	<Point x="127.314" y="120.640" />
23:47 <vinavil> 	<Point x="-121.912" y="272.344" />
23:47 <vinavil> 	<Point x="-120.733" y="-195.532" />
23:47 <vinavil> 	<Point x="365.854" y="-154.923" />
23:47 <vinavil> 	<Point x="-32.662" y="274.375" />
23:47 <vinavil> 	<Point x="-120.733" y="272.344" />
23:47 <vinavil> 	<Point x="649.343" y="-565.811" />
23:47 <vinavil> 	<Point x="649.343" y="-565.811" />
23:47 <vinavil> </Wall>
23:47 <vinavil> this is the output i get
23:47 <vinavil> and from here it doesn't seem an ellipse :)
23:48 <eddiefantastic> it always duplicates the last line
23:48 <vinavil> oh, i'm not worried of it
23:48 <eddiefantastic> that is the whole wall?
23:48 <eddiefantastic> the whole arena I mean?
23:48 <vinavil> but the points should be at least 10 times that
23:48 <vinavil> indeed..
23:48 <vinavil> that is what i get
23:49 <eddiefantastic> you have the svg I could look at?
23:49 <vinavil> yes, where can i send you it?
23:49 <eddiefantastic> did you convert object to path?
23:50 <vinavil> i did nothing, just took the pure svg and converted it
23:50 <eddiefantastic> send it to ed at plantpeanuts.co.uk
23:51 <K-Yo> anyone for ct dog?
23:51 <vinavil> sent
23:54 <eddiefantastic> ok, I have it
23:55 <eddiefantastic> you need to ungroup the elipse, then convert to path
23:56 <eddiefantastic> svg2aamap needs true paths
23:57 <eddiefantastic> inscape doesn't create a path automatically for a shape
23:58 <eddiefantastic> a fixed one is on it's way
23:58 <vinavil> meantime i tried another thing, i coloured it white and did 3px of stroke, that was 1. the tool seems to have reacted
23:58 <vinavil> this is the output
23:58 <vinavil> 	<Point x="499.226" y="-897.854" />
23:58 <vinavil> 	<Point x="497.285" y="-917.138" />
23:58 <vinavil> 	<Point x="491.615" y="-935.707" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="482.451" y="-953.418" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="470.026" y="-970.125" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="454.573" y="-985.686" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="436.327" y="-999.955" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="415.521" y="-1012.789" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="392.388" y="-1024.044" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="367.163" y="-1033.576" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="340.077" y="-1041.241" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="311.366" y="-1046.893" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="281.262" y="-1050.391" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="250.000" y="-1051.589" />
23:59 <vinavil> 	<Point x="218.738" y="-1050.391" />
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23:59 <eddiefantastic> haha
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