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Log from 2007-12-11: --- Day changed Tue Dec 11 2007 00:32 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 00:40 -!- flea [n=blia@208.44.167.67] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 00:41 -!- libervisco [n=libervis@tuxhacker/libervisco] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:41 -!- liberfiasco [n=libervis@89-172-60-32.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #armagetron 00:48 -!- laspace [n=laspace@ppp-71-139-4-84.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #armagetron 01:05 <liberfiasco> Hi 01:13 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:16 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50871EF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:32 -!- laspace [n=laspace@ppp-71-139-4-84.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [] 01:47 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 02:00 <liberfiasco> http://www.nuxified.org/topic/organizing_armagetron_advanced_final_part 02:15 <luke-jr> - Match winner is the one who gains 10 in-game points first 02:15 <luke-jr> you never define scoring 02:15 <luke-jr> - Light cycle: 0.1 (still can be discussed) 02:15 <luke-jr> wtf does that mean? 02:29 <P4> luke-jr: i think i cannot code that stuff for you, im sorry... i'm quite busy. delete that accounts if you wish 02:29 <luke-jr> P4: np 02:29 <P4> ok :) 02:36 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 02:43 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away 02:44 -!- liberfiasco is now known as libervisco 02:46 <libervisco> luke-jr, define scoring? I base that on what QBrain was saying about LMS Arena giving points to players in game where when one reaches 10 is the winner.. 02:46 <libervisco> So what do you mean? 02:46 <libervisco> Also, doesn't light cycle refer to time between turns? 02:46 <luke-jr> libervisco: scoring is arbitrarily configured 02:47 <luke-jr> light cycle is what you drive 02:47 <libervisco> well then someone on the forums must be misinformed.. 02:47 <luke-jr> lol 02:47 <luke-jr> light cycle is like motorcycle 02:47 <luke-jr> except it's light! 02:47 <luke-jr> lol 02:47 <libervisco> I'm not excluding myself as a candidate for being the one misinformed. ;) 02:47 <libervisco> Yeah 02:48 <luke-jr> you need to watch the movie someday 02:48 <libervisco> ah right, cycle delay it was 02:48 <libervisco> gonna fix 02:48 <libervisco> luke-jr, I did watch some a while ago 02:48 <luke-jr> err 02:48 <luke-jr> CYCLE_DELAY should be like 0.001 ☺ 02:49 <libervisco> ok well.. 02:50 <libervisco> we'll see what others say but I'm guessing that much isn't as controversial as rubber ;) 02:50 <libervisco> luke-jr, about "scoring is arbitrarily configured", could you explain a bit? 02:50 <luke-jr> how many points you get for what are config options 02:50 <luke-jr> #armaconfig score 02:50 <armabot> luke-jr: KEYBOARD 9 PLAYER_BIND SCORE 0 : || LIMIT_SCORE: End the match when a player reaches this score (default: 100) || SCORE_DIE: Amount of points you get for dying (default: -2) || SCORE_KILL: Amount of points you get for killing someone (default: 3) || SCORE_SUICIDE: Amount of points you get for stupidly dying (default: -4) || SCORE_WIN: Amount of points you get for winning a round (default: 10) (1 more message) 02:51 <luke-jr> #more 02:51 <armabot> luke-jr: || SP_LIMIT_SCORE: End the match when a player reaches this score in single player mode (default: 100000) || SP_SCORE_WIN: What you get for winning a round in single player mode (default: 10) 02:53 <libervisco> Ok we can keep those to defaults unless anyone specifically demands otherwise 02:53 <libervisco> luke-jr, does Arma recognize second and third place? 02:53 <libervisco> I suppose there should be a way to tell (score list basically) 02:53 <luke-jr> IIRC, the defaults give too many points for winning rounds 02:54 <luke-jr> it logs the final scores 02:54 <libervisco> ok 02:55 <libervisco> Well, we can limit the number of rounds per match and let the server do the rest.. I mean, if the defaults give too many points per round I suppose we can have more rounds to make up for that.. 02:55 <libervisco> or we can lessen the number of points anyway 03:04 <luke-jr> #rating blacktear.ec|d 03:04 <armabot> luke-jr: blacktear.ec|d's current rating is 1717-1790 (from 1415-1739) 03:04 <luke-jr> #rating rebel.ec|d 03:04 <armabot> luke-jr: rebel.ec|d's current rating is 1012-1519 (from 1150-1850) 03:04 <luke-jr> O.o 03:21 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 03:30 -!- laspace [n=laspace@adsl-71-146-92-167.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 03:44 -!- spidey_ [n=spidey@adsl-065-006-218-226.sip.mem.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:45 -!- laspace [n=laspace@adsl-71-146-92-167.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:00 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-178-153.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 04:00 <Durka_> #hello 04:00 <armabot> Hello Durka_ :) Quote #47: "ooo, a fez. I would look awesome in a fez -- Lucifer_arma (2007-04-12 19:38)" (added by MrBougo at 08:48 AM, April 15, 2007) 04:15 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-178-153.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:28 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 04:36 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Your_mom@70.106.95.70] has joined #armagetron 04:42 <luke-jr> #rating your_mom 04:43 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about 'your_mom'! 04:43 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: what name do you play under? 04:43 <Your_mom_arma> #rating Nidus 04:44 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: I don't know anything about 'nidus'! 04:44 <luke-jr> … 04:44 <Your_mom_arma> I swap names randomly 04:45 <luke-jr> o 04:45 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr 04:45 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr's current rating is 1333-1433 04:45 <luke-jr> #rating ct_ky13 04:45 <armabot> luke-jr: ct_ky13's current rating is 1488-1557 (from 1391-1518) 04:45 <luke-jr> crap 04:46 <luke-jr> http://hachi.lan/~armastats-srv/a.php <-- top 10 04:46 <Your_mom_arma> what does #ratings look up 04:46 <luke-jr> #rating carnage 04:46 <armabot> luke-jr: carnage's current rating is 1829-2037 04:46 <luke-jr> looks up your skill range 04:46 <Your_mom_arma> ? 04:46 <luke-jr> how good you play 04:47 <luke-jr> in LMS/DM 04:47 <Your_mom_arma> well, based on what? 04:47 <luke-jr> kills 04:47 <luke-jr> who you kill, who killed you 04:47 <Your_mom_arma> lms/dm? 04:47 <Your_mom_arma> which server? 04:47 <luke-jr> Last Man Standing and Deathmatch 04:47 <luke-jr> ed, xzl, fa, eclipsed, swampland_hate, tbb 04:48 <luke-jr> so far 04:48 <Your_mom_arma> I don't really play on those servers 04:48 <luke-jr> ah 04:48 <luke-jr> well, get the servers you play on to participate :þ 04:49 <ghableska> #rating ghableska 04:49 <armabot> ghableska: I don't know anything about 'ghableska'! 04:49 <Your_mom_arma> there's no good lms/dm servers up right now imo 04:49 <luke-jr> heh 04:49 <luke-jr> start one :þ 04:49 <ghableska> #weather 50266 04:49 <Your_mom_arma> fair enough :) 04:49 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 25.9°F (9:47 PM CST on December 10, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 29.22 in 989.4 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 PM CST Tuesday... 04:49 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has left #armagetron [] 04:50 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: I'm running a special… :þ 04:50 <Your_mom_arma> nexus 9 has potential but its run by a horrible clan 04:50 <Your_mom_arma> horrible in the fact that they don't know how to play well 04:50 <luke-jr> lol 05:02 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: do you really host a server called god does not exist? 05:02 <luke-jr> cusco's 05:02 <luke-jr> why? 05:03 <Your_mom_arma> seems like something you might take a moral stand against displaying/hosting 05:03 <Your_mom_arma> no offence 05:03 <luke-jr> I don't expect anyone to take it seriously unless they're already pretty screwed up ☺ 05:04 <Gursikh> luke-jr repleaced that one bind with s/lag/god/ ? 05:04 <Gursikh> >.< 05:39 -!- spidey [n=spidey@adsl-065-006-218-226.sip.mem.bellsouth.net] has joined #armagetron 05:39 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:43 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has joined #armagetron 06:05 <tramshed> #weather portland, or 06:05 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Clackamas, 122nd , and Sunnyside, Clackamas, Oregon is 34.5°F (9:06 PM PST on December 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Steady). 06:05 <luke-jr> #rating /dev/null 06:06 <armabot> luke-jr: /dev/null's current rating is 1113-1521 06:06 <luke-jr> haven't played much today? 06:06 <tramshed> not on my own server 06:27 <Your_mom_arma> GodTodd: who's Tussaud ? 06:39 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-72-130-168-207.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 06:43 <GodTodd> Your_mom_arma: umm...don't know? 06:43 <GodTodd> should i? 06:43 <Your_mom_arma> someone in #eugenics 06:44 <GodTodd> oh...that's some guy that showed up a while ago 06:44 <GodTodd> never talked to him 06:44 <GodTodd> heh 06:45 <Your_mom_arma> well he's only in that channel so I wasn't sure if he was contributing or just being creepy 06:46 <GodTodd> afaik he's just creepy 06:46 <GodTodd> :) 06:53 <Your_mom_arma> mkzelda: do you know him? 06:58 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@2001:5c0:87c8:0:0:0:0:1] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:10 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@im.catapultingfeces.com] has joined #armagetron 07:10 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-72-130-168-207.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:14 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@im.catapultingfeces.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:15 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@216.18-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 07:17 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 gfduxitgerhyuiovfg<hqiùHMhAU_IGHIUDRLGHUGYgyhugbysgfæÊ€æÊ»þýýûÎÃ] 07:22 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@im.catapultingfeces.com] has joined #armagetron 07:37 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@216.18-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 07:40 -!- DeadNed [n=matthew@pool-71-119-235-102.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 07:40 -!- DeadNed [n=matthew@pool-71-119-235-102.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #armagetron ["Ex-Chat"] 07:50 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Your_mom@70.106.95.70] has quit ["cya"] 08:02 -!- wireddd [n=wired@66-188-77-4.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:34 <luke-jr> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/software_engineering_explained.gif 08:51 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871EF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 08:59 -!- wireddd [n=wired@66-188-77-4.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #armagetron 08:59 -!- wireddd [n=wired@66-188-77-4.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:00 -!- wireddd [n=wired@66-188-77-4.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #armagetron 09:11 <duudii> cd /media/ 09:11 <duudii> ls 09:16 <luke-jr> … 09:16 <luke-jr> stfu 09:17 <luke-jr> I mean 09:17 <luke-jr> cdrom 09:17 <luke-jr> floppy 09:17 <luke-jr> # 11:00 <luke-jr> #list 11:00 <armabot> luke-jr: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web 11:16 <spidey> lol nub 11:21 <luke-jr> u 11:36 <spidey> no u 11:49 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50871195.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 11:55 -!- P4|away is now known as P4 12:07 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871EF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:07 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:08 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has joined #armagetron 12:28 <eddiefantastic> #rating ct-eddie 12:28 <armabot> eddiefantastic: ct-eddie's current rating is 1530-1629 (from 1525-1637) 12:29 <eddiefantastic> is that good? 12:33 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr 12:33 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr's current rating is 1333-1433 12:47 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man 12:47 <z-man> Yay, finished nethack! 12:50 <z-man> 4947 creatures killed. --- Log closed Tue Dec 11 13:24:18 2007 --- Log opened Tue Dec 11 16:42:47 2007 16:42 -!- wrtlprnft [n=wrtlprnf@77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron 16:42 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 23 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 23 normal] 16:43 -!- Irssi: Join to #armagetron was synced in 24 secs 16:45 -!- armabot [n=armabot@77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron 17:02 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 17:20 <xfroggy> lmao, is that the real language 17:36 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 17:36 <ghableska> #weather 50266 17:37 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 27.1°F (10:32 AM CST on December 11, 2007). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Pressure: 29.20 in 988.7 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 PM CST this afternoon... 17:44 <ghableska> #tea 17:44 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): Tarrot, |<, ~*SP*~Rodarmy, ¦×¥ådøm, °°@shitakA 17:47 <K-Yo> =D 17:47 <K-Yo> i won 17:54 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #armagetron 18:01 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871195.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:17 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 18:19 -!- Swayze4Crayze [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-76-215-1-97.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron 18:19 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-76-215-1-97.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:25 -!- Swayze4Crayze is now known as DrJoeTron 18:39 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 18:42 <epsy> luke-jr, you here ? 19:14 <epsy> ew 19:14 <epsy> someone found out about the max players/ip bug 19:47 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871195.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 20:01 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:01 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 20:06 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 20:12 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 20:33 -!- noob7_away is now known as noob7 20:47 -!- noob7 is now known as noob7_away 21:23 -!- QUARG [n=QUARG@modemcable004.12-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #armagetron 21:23 <QUARG> hello all 21:25 <QUARG> who is running the master servers? as of yesterday the ID high rubber server istn showing on the master list anymore but i can still custom connect and no changes were made to the server. 21:26 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@188.244-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 21:28 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871195.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:35 <K-Yo> #lastseen sebol 21:35 <armabot> K-Yo: ct|SeBoL158 seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now. 21:36 <epsy> wrtlprnft, could you lower idle_remove_time on café? the current value currently lets them ruin loads of rounds 21:49 <K-Yo> what's idle_remove_time for? 21:54 <K-Yo> i saw it's ok ;) 22:01 <P4> #cfg idle_remove_time 22:01 <armabot> P4: IDLE_REMOVE_TIME: Time in seconds after which an inactive player is removed from the game (default: 0) 22:01 <P4> default is unlimited, now it's at 90 22:03 <wrtlprnft> it's at 90, yeah 22:03 <wrtlprnft> the problem is that it can't remove anyone who has idled for at least a round 22:03 <wrtlprnft> so that's the limiting factor 22:04 <wrtlprnft> and you can't tell if someone got teamkilled at the very beginning of a round and then just sat there and waited for the next, that's why you have to wait 22:05 <QUARG> hello 22:06 <QUARG> would any of you have any thoughts to why ID rubber isnt showing on list? 22:07 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails ID 22:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber 2<: Players (5/8): .dBd|Shaf, Eric Cartman, jimmy, |GI| Funmonkey, |nos|shifter 22:07 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails ID%rubber 22:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber 2<: Players (5/8): .dBd|Shaf, Eric Cartman, jimmy, |GI| Funmonkey, |nos|shifter 22:07 <wrtlprnft> wouldn't that be it? 22:07 <QUARG> this s the temp server i am hosting 22:07 <QUARG> rubber 2 22:07 <QUARG> ID high rubber is missing from list 22:08 <wrtlprnft> do you remember its IP? 22:08 <QUARG> 209.172.43.165 port 4534 22:08 <QUARG> it stopped showing sometime yesterday i think 22:09 <QUARG> i have checked the .cfg files and all seems to be ok 22:09 <QUARG> and no changes were made 22:09 <wrtlprnft> hmm 22:09 <QUARG> my onlinecp for the server shows it running and i can login to it 22:09 <wrtlprnft> my master knows about it 22:09 <QUARG> also i can use my bookmark to get in 22:10 <wrtlprnft> [2007/12/11 20:57:02] [17] Acknowledged server: 209.172.43.165:4534 22:10 <QUARG> talk_to_master is 1 22:10 <QUARG> ill reboot it and see 22:11 <QUARG> STATUS=RUNNING 22:11 <QUARG> just reset it 22:12 <QUARG> still not there 22:13 <wrtlprnft> err 22:13 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 22:13 <QUARG> what is a good value for dedicated_idle? 22:13 <wrtlprnft> 853 [name] => Unnamed Server 22:13 <wrtlprnft> 854 [ip] => 209.172.43.165 22:13 <wrtlprnft> 855 [port] => 4534 22:14 <QUARG> unamed?? 22:14 <wrtlprnft> it's just got a buring name is all 22:14 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails unnamed server 22:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Unnamed Server: Players (1/12): Zak FE 22:14 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v unnamed server 22:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Unnamed Server (209.172.43.165:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 win dedicated, url: http://IDClanForum.tt.cx, Description: “Great Rubber, Speed, and Competition (hosted by Anonymous)“, Players (1/12): Zak FE 22:14 <QUARG> errrr 22:15 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:15 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 22:15 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-227-223-104.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:23 <QUARG> ty wrtlprnft 22:23 <QUARG> i got it ack up 22:23 <wrtlprnft> yw :) 22:24 <QUARG> for some strange reason the server_name was gone and i couldnt modify the file 22:35 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-38-124.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:36 -!- QUARG [n=QUARG@modemcable004.12-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 22:41 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871195.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 23:08 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit ["leaving"] 23:24 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-80-132.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetronView entire month
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