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Log from 2007-11-05:
--- Day changed Mon Nov 05 2007
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00:18 <Lucifer> heh, my kids were playing X Prize Cup and got two air darts on the roof
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01:15 <Lucifer> heh
01:15 <Lucifer> z-man: you kicking?
01:21 <luke-jr> who's z-man kicking?
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01:23 <Lucifer> er, that's not exactly what I meant
01:23 <Lucifer> I guess you're not interested in this lunar rover project, but would you be willing to throw a little translation thing?  Provided it didn't take long....  ;)
01:24 <Lucifer> this impule-based simulation library has the api docs in german.  :(  I'm having a hard time determining if it's "good enough", but it appears to be the best open source has right now
01:34 <Lucifer> I got tricked, he's not really there
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01:38 <spidey> lol
01:39 <luke-jr> http://bash.org/?820591
01:40 <luke-jr> :D
01:44 <Lucifer> ok, I'm finally putting everything I have into subversion repositories
01:48 <Lucifer> ok, my pictures of the genie pissing in sabarai's mouth is history
01:48 <spidey> haha
01:51 <Lucifer> http://www.davefancella.com/ik.JPG  <--- er, no it's not
01:55 <Lucifer> man, I still need to scan all my old tax returns :(
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03:01 <Lucifer> heya kyle
03:01 <Lucifer> while I'm making svn accounts, what username do you want?
03:01 <ct|kyle> oi Lucifer
03:01 <ct|kyle> kyle
03:02 <Lucifer> can you get pms here?
03:02 <Lucifer> er
03:02 <Lucifer> PMs ?
03:02 <ct|kyle> yes
03:05 <Lucifer> I'm going to do some homework and then probably transfer our existing google docs to svn
03:05 <Lucifer> I don't think it's all that unreasonable to have everybody learn how to use svn, since it's pretty easy to work with :)
03:05 <ct|kyle> really easy to work with on linux
03:06 <Lucifer> yeah, and we'll need it for code anyway :)
03:06 <ct|kyle> ya
03:06 <ct|kyle> commit the code well at the start so i can understand it :D
03:07 <Lucifer> commit or comment?  ;)
03:07 <ct|kyle> comment*
03:07 <Lucifer> I've become a big fan of doxygen, so that won't be a big problem for me :)
03:07 <ct|kyle> i like that too
03:07 <ct|kyle> i should learn that also
03:07 <Lucifer> I like this impulse-based simulation library a lot, it looks pretty easy to work with, so I'm inclined to just start in on that
03:08 <Lucifer> when I get a chance, if nobody else has, of course.
03:08 <ct|kyle> yes that does look the best
03:08 <Lucifer> you don't actually have to learn doxygen, I'll throw in a config file that generates readable docs and then you just have to run doxygen every now and then to get api docs
03:09 <ct|kyle> be easyer if we just have them in the svn
03:09 <Lucifer> er, you will have to learn how to use doxygen markup though
03:09 <Lucifer> well, with generated files like that, you don't really want them in svn
03:09 <Lucifer> I'll probaby throw an automated api doc generator together at some point and stick it on my web server
03:10 <ct|kyle> ok
03:10 <Lucifer> soon as I fix the buildbot, that is.  buildbot's broke :(
03:13 <Lucifer> well, maybe your friend will change his mind later on.  ;)
03:13 <ct|kyle> maybe
03:14 <ct|kyle> he really likes the whole idea
03:14 <ct|kyle> he said if i saw him online he would research something
03:14 <Lucifer> I expect that people will be more willing to join when we look viable
03:14 <ct|kyle> ya
03:14 <Lucifer> right now we're vapor, and there's a million projects that are in planning stage
03:15 <ct|kyle> we really need to create a scope for the project
03:15 <Lucifer> a million abandoned projects, that is
03:16 <ct|kyle> when i first told my friend he did not realize we were actually sending the robot to the moon
03:17 <Lucifer> I need to follow up with my dad, if he says now I've got another electrical engineer to hit up still that works in the physics department at my school
03:17 <Lucifer> he's probably willing to help out some, but may not be willing to give time for more than helping us troubleshoot circuits and looking over our designs
03:19 <ct|kyle> I think we will want our circuit board to have our final output that is sent to the motors
03:19 <Lucifer> depends, I guess
03:20 <ct|kyle> i think my friend would just be a good person to bounce ideas off of
03:20 <Lucifer> we'll probably want a simple amplification circuit in there for sure
03:20 <Lucifer> where the computer plays the role of the preamp :)
03:20 <ct|kyle> Digital potentiometer
03:20 <Lucifer> depends on how much current we're talking about sending to the motor, I suspect
03:20 <ct|kyle> that the code can acess and change
03:21 <Lucifer> ah, I see what you're saying.  Digital potentiometer to interface with the analog signals that actually drive it?
03:22 <ct|kyle> ya i think
03:23 <Lucifer> well, assuming the motor's power comes directly off the solar cells (or battery or whatever), it seems like we want to use a simple transistor to vary how much current goes to the motor
03:23 <Lucifer> and we want the computer to control that resistance in the transistor
03:24 <Lucifer> er, unless I'm mistaken and transistors aren't relaly variable resistance :)
03:24 <ct|kyle> probably
03:24 <ct|kyle> i never got into transistors
03:24 <Lucifer> how the computer does it doesn't matter to me so long as we can have somewhere a function that says powerMotor("left", 0.5)
03:25 <ct|kyle> ya
03:26 <Lucifer> yeah, transistor's right :)
03:26 <ct|kyle> powerMotor("both",.5)
03:26 <Lucifer> yeah, or we might use defines or something.  Probably want it generalized enough to allow any arbitrary number of motors :)
03:28 <ct|kyle> ok
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03:50 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:50 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 54.5°F (8:52 PM CST on November 04, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Pressure: 28.78 in 974.5 hPa (Falling).
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04:38 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYfDlIa-Z8
04:38 <spidey> @ luke-jr
04:40 <luke-jr> no
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06:10 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
06:10 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: Players (6/6): Castle, ew, jw.mx, Locke, matthew, |FA| The One
06:10 <DrJoeTron> wow holy shit
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06:38 <spidey> ...
06:38 <luke-jr> LOL
06:45  * spidey stabs luke-jr in the eye
06:47 <luke-jr> spidey: join #anime
06:48 <spidey> that the best you can do?
06:48 <spidey> c'mon, my grandma can do better than that!
06:48 <luke-jr> :D
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09:34 <luke-jr> #armaconfig rubber
09:34 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_PING_RUBBER: Additional niceness for high ping players (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER: Niceness factor to allow you drive really close to a wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY: During this fraction of the cycle delay time after each turn, rubber efficiency will be multiplied with CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS. (default: 0) || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS: Factor for CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY rubber (12 more messages)
09:36 <luke-jr> #armaconfig brake
09:36 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_BRAKE: Brake intensity (default: 30) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE: Rate at which the brake reservoir depletes when you are braking (default: 1) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_BRAKE_REFILL: Rate at which the brake reservoir refills when you are not braking (default: 0.1) || (1 more message)
09:37 <luke-jr> #armaconfig accel
09:37 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_ACCEL: Wall acceleration factor (default: 10) || CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your enemies' walls (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_OFFSET: Minimum numeric wall distance, must be positive (default: 2) || CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for (3 more messages)
09:39 <luke-jr> #more
09:39 <armabot> luke-jr: the rim walls (default: 0) || CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your own wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT: Multiplicator to the total effect (2 more messages)
09:39 <luke-jr> #more
09:39 <armabot> luke-jr: of CYCLE_ACCEL, if the cycle is between its own wall and another wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your temmates' walls (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM differs from its (1 more message)
09:39 <luke-jr> #more
09:39 <armabot> luke-jr: default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TUNNEL: Multiplicator to the total effect of CYCLE_ACCEL, if the cycle is between two walls not created by it (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TUNNEL_OVERRIDE: cycle_accel_tunnel_override_help (default: 3)
09:40 <cusco> o ok
09:40 <cusco> thats too much stuff
09:40 <luke-jr> lol
09:49 <cusco> thanks
09:50 <luke-jr> O.o
09:51 <cusco> woot?
09:52 <luke-jr> >.>
09:52 <cusco> !
09:52 <luke-jr> ‼
09:52 <cusco> !?
09:53 <luke-jr> ⁉
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17:57 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7366 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eGameObject.cpp: hopefully fixed the rare teleport bugs.
18:01 <MrBougo> #ping
18:01 <armabot> pong
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18:13 <epsy> erm...can we include as a client files from ~/.armagetronad/var/ ?
18:15 <epsy> oh...yes we can :)
18:16 <MrBougo> :o
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20:11 <Lucifer> I don't answer the phone if there's nothing in the caller id!
20:12 <spidey> i don't answer the phone period
20:12 <spidey> because if it's for me
20:13 <spidey> it's either a.) luke-jr b.) my dad or c.) my mom
20:16 <Lucifer> I take it those are all good reasons not to answer?
20:17 <spidey> yup :)
20:17 <Lucifer> I quit answering the phone for the most part when I can identify it's not for me, because I'm more likely to forget to give my wife a message than she is to forget to check messages
20:17 <spidey> lol
20:18 <Lucifer> and since all the voicemails get emailed to me, I can listen to them without clearing the voice mail box, so my wife still sees them as new messages :)
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20:18 <spidey> hm
20:18 <spidey> if i ever move out, i don't think i'll even have a phone...
20:19 <spidey> i never use the thing
20:19 <Lucifer> I thought the same thing when I first went out on my own, then found that I really needed one
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20:19 <Lucifer> but I only needed it so my work could call me and vice versa
20:19 <spidey> speaking of work
20:20 <spidey> my back and right ass cheek muscle feels like a boxer beat me for 30 minutes >.>
20:20 <Lucifer> you shouldn't have let your dog do that to you
20:20 <spidey> ...
20:21 <spidey> i cleaned my room/picked up all the sticks in the yard/push mowed it (yea, i'm more outta shape than i thought >.>)
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20:33 <mkzelda> Lucifer: You use a lot of audacity?
20:35 <Lucifer> mkzelda: used to, haven't used it much recently
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21:06 <[CH]DarkStar> mkzelda: i use audacity quite often
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21:50 <mkzelda> oops i wandered off after that
21:51 <mkzelda> some nexuiz guys were looking for assistance w/ some sound projects using oss
21:52 <mkzelda> i havent messed w/ audacity enough to know if it worked well for pulling out sample sound effects from existing audio sources
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21:53 <mkzelda> the problem being the isolation of the sound against all others
21:53 <xfroggy> dooky :D
21:56 <mkzelda> :D
21:56 <xfroggy> we won dooky :D
21:56 <mkzelda> oh oops
21:56 <mkzelda> i was here all along
21:57 <xfroggy> yesterday?
21:57 <mkzelda> just forgot
21:57 <mkzelda> yea
21:57 <xfroggy> lol...
21:57 <xfroggy> u forgot the most important fight!
21:57 <xfroggy> :P
21:57 <mkzelda> who was it?
21:57 <xfroggy> KoD!!!
21:58 <mkzelda> both teams make a full appearance?
21:58 <xfroggy> newb and madmax coudn't make it, they showed up right at the very end of the last match :D
21:59 <xfroggy> we had plenty people also, jj confused DST times, so we had Tropik show up, later on he had conn problems
21:59 <xfroggy> 3-2 :D
21:59 <mkzelda> wow
21:59 <xfroggy> but it seemed alot less sliding when we fought |x|
21:59 <mkzelda> durkas standings arent current :(
21:59 <xfroggy> durka was pissed off ><
22:00 <xfroggy> he was their def and he just switched to the new MacOS Leopard
22:00 <xfroggy> he was getting more than 15 FPS what he said
22:00 <xfroggy> i mean less ***
22:00 <mkzelda> that bites
22:00 <xfroggy> he actually polled me he got so pissed off at me... lol
22:00 <xfroggy> i was getting in his def all the time
22:00 <mkzelda> lol
22:01 <xfroggy> :)
22:01 <mkzelda> who has a demo?
22:01 <xfroggy> Oo ?
22:01 <mkzelda> who recorded
22:01 <xfroggy> me
22:01 <xfroggy> http://tr.1c3d.net/files
22:01 <xfroggy> epsy should also have a copy of the recording
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22:03 <xfroggy> I believe we going to play KoD once again, but this time I'm hoping it will be in our home server (WW)
22:04 <mkzelda> that'd be sweet
22:04 <xfroggy> what happened to your aim?
22:04 <mkzelda> the other day, as i said, was the first time i'd ever gotten to play any sort of ladle/spoon/afl game on a US server
22:04 <xfroggy> other day O_o
22:05 <mkzelda> like 2 weeks ago or whenever we werre last at home
22:05 <mkzelda> 3
22:05 <xfroggy> ah
22:05 <xfroggy> UTC
22:05 <mkzelda> ive changed keyboards, twice, recently, and window managers
22:05 <mkzelda> so thats where my aim is
22:06 <mkzelda> just gotta play an all niter some time and ill be good
22:06 <mkzelda> oh
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22:06 <mkzelda> u meant instant messenger lulz
22:06 <xfroggy> yea lol
22:06 <xfroggy> u dont use it no more?
22:06 <mkzelda> that too, switched wm's been having some issues w/ that
22:06 <xfroggy> ah, what u use now?
22:07 <mkzelda> still using kopete but i was having all kinds of kde probs b/c they discontinued my upgrade path
22:07 <mkzelda> so i had to downgrade everything kde
22:07 <mkzelda> and then the new kde came out like 2 days after i compiled all the old kde
22:07 <xfroggy> LOL
22:07 <xfroggy> you having fun :P
22:07 <mkzelda> yea
22:08 <mkzelda> and im not even using kde, im using e17 w/ some kde apps
22:08 <mkzelda> its been a little bit of a mess
22:08 <xfroggy> ouch...
22:08 <mkzelda> but i think i close aim sometimes and then forget to start it
22:08 <mkzelda> i turn it off for gaming
22:08 <mkzelda> anything persistent
22:08 <xfroggy> Oo it lags u?
22:08 <mkzelda> well i turn it off for important gaming i should say
22:09 <mkzelda> i cant tell if it lags me, but i know i can close it and not worry
22:09 <xfroggy> lol i actually for the first time closed thunderbird last match
22:10 <xfroggy> next time I'll try to warn you thru IRC :P
22:10 <mkzelda> oh it is actually busted atm
22:10 <xfroggy> I think I'm the only one using irc with our clan
22:10 <mkzelda> yea irc is best way for me
22:10 <xfroggy> sage's university is blocking it and goody hates it
22:11 <mkzelda> lol thats an easy block to avoid but i could still see not using it
22:11 <xfroggy> lol
22:11 <mkzelda> most the time they only block 6667 and not the alt ports
22:11 <mkzelda> even still, bncs
22:12 <xfroggy> can u change ports in xchat?
22:12 <xfroggy> i didnt find that option
22:12 <mkzelda> yea
22:13 <mkzelda> i think it goes on the end of the ip line after a colon
22:13 <mkzelda> or its a /
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22:13 <mkzelda> like irc.freenode.org/7000
22:13 <xfroggy> eh, sage is on windows
22:13 <mkzelda> something like that
22:13 <mkzelda> he can use xchat on win, and mirc has an easy way to change ports
22:13 <xfroggy> I should tell him to try out mirc
22:14 <mkzelda> has a seperate field for it
22:15 <xfroggy> ight dooky, I gtg :D Fix up ur rig
22:16 <xfroggy> we kind of missed seeing you die at the start that we actually did it without you :P
22:16 <mkzelda> lol
22:16 <xfroggy> at the beginning of the first match, we tked each other, like 4 people
22:16 <xfroggy> then every1 started asking if the match started :P
22:16 <mkzelda> hahaha
22:16 <xfroggy> took us a whole match to get our shit together
22:17 <mkzelda> i wasnt sure if anyone noticed that i do that :D
22:17 <xfroggy> after that mass suicide we just kept messing up for the rest of the first match
22:17 <xfroggy> haha ur the funniest one :P
22:18 <xfroggy> ight I gotta run pick up someone ^_^ lata man :D
22:18 <mkzelda> the fantasy football league i used to play in every year is known as the "matt free league" now for that kind of stuff
22:18 <mkzelda> pz
22:26 <Lucifer> mkzelda: yeah, you can use audacity to pull out samples pretty well
22:26 <Lucifer> but I can't help you do it, because it's been so long since I've opened audacity and I didn't do that sort of thing with it in general anyway
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22:49 <mkzelda> Lucifer: what about original sfx?
22:49 <mkzelda> or u moreso do a score
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22:53 <RebelEclipsed> luke-jr, you here?
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22:58 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:58 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 47.7°F (4:03 PM CST on November 05, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.13 in 986.3 hPa (Rising).
23:00 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
23:00 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 56.7°F (5:05 PM EST on November 05, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady).
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23:06 <LDS_Trooper> luke-jr, are you there? This is urgent
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23:21 <rebel_eclipsed> hey protocoldoug
23:21 <rebel_eclipsed> I didn't know you played the game?
23:21 <rebel_eclipsed> or did you just follow me over? lol
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23:23 <LDS_Trooper> luke-jr, I have something urgent to discuss... are you there?
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