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Log from 2007-11-05:
--- Day changed Mon Nov 05 2007
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00:18 <Lucifer> heh, my kids were playing X Prize Cup and got two air darts on the roof
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01:15 <Lucifer> heh
01:15 <Lucifer> z-man: you kicking?
01:21 <luke-jr> who's z-man kicking?
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01:23 <Lucifer> er, that's not exactly what I meant
01:23 <Lucifer> I guess you're not interested in this lunar rover project, but would you be willing to throw a little translation thing? Provided it didn't take long.... ;)
01:24 <Lucifer> this impule-based simulation library has the api docs in german. :( I'm having a hard time determining if it's "good enough", but it appears to be the best open source has right now
01:34 <Lucifer> I got tricked, he's not really there
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01:38 <spidey> lol
01:39 <luke-jr> http://bash.org/?820591
01:40 <luke-jr> :D
01:44 <Lucifer> ok, I'm finally putting everything I have into subversion repositories
01:48 <Lucifer> ok, my pictures of the genie pissing in sabarai's mouth is history
01:48 <spidey> haha
01:51 <Lucifer> http://www.davefancella.com/ik.JPG <--- er, no it's not
01:55 <Lucifer> man, I still need to scan all my old tax returns :(
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03:01 <Lucifer> heya kyle
03:01 <Lucifer> while I'm making svn accounts, what username do you want?
03:01 <ct|kyle> oi Lucifer
03:01 <ct|kyle> kyle
03:02 <Lucifer> can you get pms here?
03:02 <Lucifer> er
03:02 <Lucifer> PMs ?
03:02 <ct|kyle> yes
03:05 <Lucifer> I'm going to do some homework and then probably transfer our existing google docs to svn
03:05 <Lucifer> I don't think it's all that unreasonable to have everybody learn how to use svn, since it's pretty easy to work with :)
03:05 <ct|kyle> really easy to work with on linux
03:06 <Lucifer> yeah, and we'll need it for code anyway :)
03:06 <ct|kyle> ya
03:06 <ct|kyle> commit the code well at the start so i can understand it :D
03:07 <Lucifer> commit or comment? ;)
03:07 <ct|kyle> comment*
03:07 <Lucifer> I've become a big fan of doxygen, so that won't be a big problem for me :)
03:07 <ct|kyle> i like that too
03:07 <ct|kyle> i should learn that also
03:07 <Lucifer> I like this impulse-based simulation library a lot, it looks pretty easy to work with, so I'm inclined to just start in on that
03:08 <Lucifer> when I get a chance, if nobody else has, of course.
03:08 <ct|kyle> yes that does look the best
03:08 <Lucifer> you don't actually have to learn doxygen, I'll throw in a config file that generates readable docs and then you just have to run doxygen every now and then to get api docs
03:09 <ct|kyle> be easyer if we just have them in the svn
03:09 <Lucifer> er, you will have to learn how to use doxygen markup though
03:09 <Lucifer> well, with generated files like that, you don't really want them in svn
03:09 <Lucifer> I'll probaby throw an automated api doc generator together at some point and stick it on my web server
03:10 <ct|kyle> ok
03:10 <Lucifer> soon as I fix the buildbot, that is. buildbot's broke :(
03:13 <Lucifer> well, maybe your friend will change his mind later on. ;)
03:13 <ct|kyle> maybe
03:14 <ct|kyle> he really likes the whole idea
03:14 <ct|kyle> he said if i saw him online he would research something
03:14 <Lucifer> I expect that people will be more willing to join when we look viable
03:14 <ct|kyle> ya
03:14 <Lucifer> right now we're vapor, and there's a million projects that are in planning stage
03:15 <ct|kyle> we really need to create a scope for the project
03:15 <Lucifer> a million abandoned projects, that is
03:16 <ct|kyle> when i first told my friend he did not realize we were actually sending the robot to the moon
03:17 <Lucifer> I need to follow up with my dad, if he says now I've got another electrical engineer to hit up still that works in the physics department at my school
03:17 <Lucifer> he's probably willing to help out some, but may not be willing to give time for more than helping us troubleshoot circuits and looking over our designs
03:19 <ct|kyle> I think we will want our circuit board to have our final output that is sent to the motors
03:19 <Lucifer> depends, I guess
03:20 <ct|kyle> i think my friend would just be a good person to bounce ideas off of
03:20 <Lucifer> we'll probably want a simple amplification circuit in there for sure
03:20 <Lucifer> where the computer plays the role of the preamp :)
03:20 <ct|kyle> Digital potentiometer
03:20 <Lucifer> depends on how much current we're talking about sending to the motor, I suspect
03:20 <ct|kyle> that the code can acess and change
03:21 <Lucifer> ah, I see what you're saying. Digital potentiometer to interface with the analog signals that actually drive it?
03:22 <ct|kyle> ya i think
03:23 <Lucifer> well, assuming the motor's power comes directly off the solar cells (or battery or whatever), it seems like we want to use a simple transistor to vary how much current goes to the motor
03:23 <Lucifer> and we want the computer to control that resistance in the transistor
03:24 <Lucifer> er, unless I'm mistaken and transistors aren't relaly variable resistance :)
03:24 <ct|kyle> probably
03:24 <ct|kyle> i never got into transistors
03:24 <Lucifer> how the computer does it doesn't matter to me so long as we can have somewhere a function that says powerMotor("left", 0.5)
03:25 <ct|kyle> ya
03:26 <Lucifer> yeah, transistor's right :)
03:26 <ct|kyle> powerMotor("both",.5)
03:26 <Lucifer> yeah, or we might use defines or something. Probably want it generalized enough to allow any arbitrary number of motors :)
03:28 <ct|kyle> ok
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03:50 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:50 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 54.5°F (8:52 PM CST on November 04, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Pressure: 28.78 in 974.5 hPa (Falling).
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04:38 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYfDlIa-Z8
04:38 <spidey> @ luke-jr
04:40 <luke-jr> no
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06:10 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
06:10 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: Players (6/6): Castle, ew, jw.mx, Locke, matthew, |FA| The One
06:10 <DrJoeTron> wow holy shit
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06:38 <spidey> ...
06:38 <luke-jr> LOL
06:45 * spidey stabs luke-jr in the eye
06:47 <luke-jr> spidey: join #anime
06:48 <spidey> that the best you can do?
06:48 <spidey> c'mon, my grandma can do better than that!
06:48 <luke-jr> :D
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09:34 <luke-jr> #armaconfig rubber
09:34 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_PING_RUBBER: Additional niceness for high ping players (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER: Niceness factor to allow you drive really close to a wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY: During this fraction of the cycle delay time after each turn, rubber efficiency will be multiplied with CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS. (default: 0) || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS: Factor for CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY rubber (12 more messages)
09:36 <luke-jr> #armaconfig brake
09:36 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_BRAKE: Brake intensity (default: 30) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE: Rate at which the brake reservoir depletes when you are braking (default: 1) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_BRAKE_REFILL: Rate at which the brake reservoir refills when you are not braking (default: 0.1) || (1 more message)
09:37 <luke-jr> #armaconfig accel
09:37 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_ACCEL: Wall acceleration factor (default: 10) || CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your enemies' walls (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_OFFSET: Minimum numeric wall distance, must be positive (default: 2) || CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for (3 more messages)
09:39 <luke-jr> #more
09:39 <armabot> luke-jr: the rim walls (default: 0) || CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_RIM differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your own wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_SELF differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT: Multiplicator to the total effect (2 more messages)
09:39 <luke-jr> #more
09:39 <armabot> luke-jr: of CYCLE_ACCEL, if the cycle is between its own wall and another wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_SLINGSHOT differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your temmates' walls (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM differs from its (1 more message)
09:39 <luke-jr> #more
09:39 <armabot> luke-jr: default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TUNNEL: Multiplicator to the total effect of CYCLE_ACCEL, if the cycle is between two walls not created by it (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TUNNEL_OVERRIDE: cycle_accel_tunnel_override_help (default: 3)
09:40 <cusco> o ok
09:40 <cusco> thats too much stuff
09:40 <luke-jr> lol
09:49 <cusco> thanks
09:50 <luke-jr> O.o
09:51 <cusco> woot?
09:52 <luke-jr> >.>
09:52 <cusco> !
09:52 <luke-jr> ‼
09:52 <cusco> !?
09:53 <luke-jr> ⁉
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17:57 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7366 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eGameObject.cpp: hopefully fixed the rare teleport bugs.
18:01 <MrBougo> #ping
18:01 <armabot> pong
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18:13 <epsy> erm...can we include as a client files from ~/.armagetronad/var/ ?
18:15 <epsy> oh...yes we can :)
18:16 <MrBougo> :o
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20:11 <Lucifer> I don't answer the phone if there's nothing in the caller id!
20:12 <spidey> i don't answer the phone period
20:12 <spidey> because if it's for me
20:13 <spidey> it's either a.) luke-jr b.) my dad or c.) my mom
20:16 <Lucifer> I take it those are all good reasons not to answer?
20:17 <spidey> yup :)
20:17 <Lucifer> I quit answering the phone for the most part when I can identify it's not for me, because I'm more likely to forget to give my wife a message than she is to forget to check messages
20:17 <spidey> lol
20:18 <Lucifer> and since all the voicemails get emailed to me, I can listen to them without clearing the voice mail box, so my wife still sees them as new messages :)
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20:18 <spidey> hm
20:18 <spidey> if i ever move out, i don't think i'll even have a phone...
20:19 <spidey> i never use the thing
20:19 <Lucifer> I thought the same thing when I first went out on my own, then found that I really needed one
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20:19 <Lucifer> but I only needed it so my work could call me and vice versa
20:19 <spidey> speaking of work
20:20 <spidey> my back and right ass cheek muscle feels like a boxer beat me for 30 minutes >.>
20:20 <Lucifer> you shouldn't have let your dog do that to you
20:20 <spidey> ...
20:21 <spidey> i cleaned my room/picked up all the sticks in the yard/push mowed it (yea, i'm more outta shape than i thought >.>)
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20:33 <mkzelda> Lucifer: You use a lot of audacity?
20:35 <Lucifer> mkzelda: used to, haven't used it much recently
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21:06 <[CH]DarkStar> mkzelda: i use audacity quite often
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21:50 <mkzelda> oops i wandered off after that
21:51 <mkzelda> some nexuiz guys were looking for assistance w/ some sound projects using oss
21:52 <mkzelda> i havent messed w/ audacity enough to know if it worked well for pulling out sample sound effects from existing audio sources
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21:53 <mkzelda> the problem being the isolation of the sound against all others
21:53 <xfroggy> dooky :D
21:56 <mkzelda> :D
21:56 <xfroggy> we won dooky :D
21:56 <mkzelda> oh oops
21:56 <mkzelda> i was here all along
21:57 <xfroggy> yesterday?
21:57 <mkzelda> just forgot
21:57 <mkzelda> yea
21:57 <xfroggy> lol...
21:57 <xfroggy> u forgot the most important fight!
21:57 <xfroggy> :P
21:57 <mkzelda> who was it?
21:57 <xfroggy> KoD!!!
21:58 <mkzelda> both teams make a full appearance?
21:58 <xfroggy> newb and madmax coudn't make it, they showed up right at the very end of the last match :D
21:59 <xfroggy> we had plenty people also, jj confused DST times, so we had Tropik show up, later on he had conn problems
21:59 <xfroggy> 3-2 :D
21:59 <mkzelda> wow
21:59 <xfroggy> but it seemed alot less sliding when we fought |x|
21:59 <mkzelda> durkas standings arent current :(
21:59 <xfroggy> durka was pissed off ><
22:00 <xfroggy> he was their def and he just switched to the new MacOS Leopard
22:00 <xfroggy> he was getting more than 15 FPS what he said
22:00 <xfroggy> i mean less ***
22:00 <mkzelda> that bites
22:00 <xfroggy> he actually polled me he got so pissed off at me... lol
22:00 <xfroggy> i was getting in his def all the time
22:00 <mkzelda> lol
22:01 <xfroggy> :)
22:01 <mkzelda> who has a demo?
22:01 <xfroggy> Oo ?
22:01 <mkzelda> who recorded
22:01 <xfroggy> me
22:01 <xfroggy> http://tr.1c3d.net/files
22:01 <xfroggy> epsy should also have a copy of the recording
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22:03 <xfroggy> I believe we going to play KoD once again, but this time I'm hoping it will be in our home server (WW)
22:04 <mkzelda> that'd be sweet
22:04 <xfroggy> what happened to your aim?
22:04 <mkzelda> the other day, as i said, was the first time i'd ever gotten to play any sort of ladle/spoon/afl game on a US server
22:04 <xfroggy> other day O_o
22:05 <mkzelda> like 2 weeks ago or whenever we werre last at home
22:05 <mkzelda> 3
22:05 <xfroggy> ah
22:05 <xfroggy> UTC
22:05 <mkzelda> ive changed keyboards, twice, recently, and window managers
22:05 <mkzelda> so thats where my aim is
22:06 <mkzelda> just gotta play an all niter some time and ill be good
22:06 <mkzelda> oh
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22:06 <mkzelda> u meant instant messenger lulz
22:06 <xfroggy> yea lol
22:06 <xfroggy> u dont use it no more?
22:06 <mkzelda> that too, switched wm's been having some issues w/ that
22:06 <xfroggy> ah, what u use now?
22:07 <mkzelda> still using kopete but i was having all kinds of kde probs b/c they discontinued my upgrade path
22:07 <mkzelda> so i had to downgrade everything kde
22:07 <mkzelda> and then the new kde came out like 2 days after i compiled all the old kde
22:07 <xfroggy> LOL
22:07 <xfroggy> you having fun :P
22:07 <mkzelda> yea
22:08 <mkzelda> and im not even using kde, im using e17 w/ some kde apps
22:08 <mkzelda> its been a little bit of a mess
22:08 <xfroggy> ouch...
22:08 <mkzelda> but i think i close aim sometimes and then forget to start it
22:08 <mkzelda> i turn it off for gaming
22:08 <mkzelda> anything persistent
22:08 <xfroggy> Oo it lags u?
22:08 <mkzelda> well i turn it off for important gaming i should say
22:09 <mkzelda> i cant tell if it lags me, but i know i can close it and not worry
22:09 <xfroggy> lol i actually for the first time closed thunderbird last match
22:10 <xfroggy> next time I'll try to warn you thru IRC :P
22:10 <mkzelda> oh it is actually busted atm
22:10 <xfroggy> I think I'm the only one using irc with our clan
22:10 <mkzelda> yea irc is best way for me
22:10 <xfroggy> sage's university is blocking it and goody hates it
22:11 <mkzelda> lol thats an easy block to avoid but i could still see not using it
22:11 <xfroggy> lol
22:11 <mkzelda> most the time they only block 6667 and not the alt ports
22:11 <mkzelda> even still, bncs
22:12 <xfroggy> can u change ports in xchat?
22:12 <xfroggy> i didnt find that option
22:12 <mkzelda> yea
22:13 <mkzelda> i think it goes on the end of the ip line after a colon
22:13 <mkzelda> or its a /
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22:13 <mkzelda> like irc.freenode.org/7000
22:13 <xfroggy> eh, sage is on windows
22:13 <mkzelda> something like that
22:13 <mkzelda> he can use xchat on win, and mirc has an easy way to change ports
22:13 <xfroggy> I should tell him to try out mirc
22:14 <mkzelda> has a seperate field for it
22:15 <xfroggy> ight dooky, I gtg :D Fix up ur rig
22:16 <xfroggy> we kind of missed seeing you die at the start that we actually did it without you :P
22:16 <mkzelda> lol
22:16 <xfroggy> at the beginning of the first match, we tked each other, like 4 people
22:16 <xfroggy> then every1 started asking if the match started :P
22:16 <mkzelda> hahaha
22:16 <xfroggy> took us a whole match to get our shit together
22:17 <mkzelda> i wasnt sure if anyone noticed that i do that :D
22:17 <xfroggy> after that mass suicide we just kept messing up for the rest of the first match
22:17 <xfroggy> haha ur the funniest one :P
22:18 <xfroggy> ight I gotta run pick up someone ^_^ lata man :D
22:18 <mkzelda> the fantasy football league i used to play in every year is known as the "matt free league" now for that kind of stuff
22:18 <mkzelda> pz
22:26 <Lucifer> mkzelda: yeah, you can use audacity to pull out samples pretty well
22:26 <Lucifer> but I can't help you do it, because it's been so long since I've opened audacity and I didn't do that sort of thing with it in general anyway
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22:49 <mkzelda> Lucifer: what about original sfx?
22:49 <mkzelda> or u moreso do a score
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22:53 <RebelEclipsed> luke-jr, you here?
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22:58 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:58 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 47.7°F (4:03 PM CST on November 05, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.13 in 986.3 hPa (Rising).
23:00 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
23:00 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 56.7°F (5:05 PM EST on November 05, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady).
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23:06 <LDS_Trooper> luke-jr, are you there? This is urgent
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23:21 <rebel_eclipsed> hey protocoldoug
23:21 <rebel_eclipsed> I didn't know you played the game?
23:21 <rebel_eclipsed> or did you just follow me over? lol
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23:23 <LDS_Trooper> luke-jr, I have something urgent to discuss... are you there?
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
Gridder
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