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00:39 <flex> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_::_Fall_Season_Signup_Page
00:39 <flex> urm.. why was legio removed from xclan roster..
00:40 <flex> or is that something I don't know about..
00:42 <flex> (or that page is old..)
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02:50 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:50 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 55.2°F (7:53 PM CDT on October 19, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 28.67 in 970.8 hPa (Rising).
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04:00 <Lucifer> #weather 78717
04:00 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 70.5°F (9:02 PM CDT on October 19, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Rising).
04:00  * Lucifer shivers
04:06 <Gursikh> tell me about it
04:06 <Gursikh> #weather 77381
04:06 <armabot> Gursikh: The current temperature in The Woodlands, Texas is 63.3°F (9:05 PM CDT on October 19, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising).
04:07 <Gursikh> shit you have it easy Lucifer
04:08 <Lucifer> no kidding, you've got to be all wrapped up
04:08 <Lucifer> I can at least go outside with short sleeves still
04:08 <Gursikh> i'm actually in front of the fireplace
04:15 <Lucifer> man, now I'm pissed
04:15 <Lucifer> some guy on this website says "drought problems would go away if water were privatized"
04:16 <Lucifer> and I'm thinking that if I were actually in Austin, I'd pay 8 cents/kW*h.  That 8 cents/kW*H buys a police department, a fire department, and contributes to several other services
04:17 <Lucifer> out here in round rock, though, we pay 15 cents/kW*H.  What do we get for it?  Sheriff and fire department come out of the state budget, none of the extra services,
04:17 <Lucifer> and once a quarter or so we get to read a report about how our electric company made record revenue that quarter
04:18 <Lucifer> and the big salaries of their top executives, and so forth
04:18 <Lucifer> seems to me this mysterious benevolent hand of the free market either doesn't exist, or its nature as stated by capitalists isn't quite so benevolent
04:18 <Lucifer> privatize the water supply to fix drought conditions?  not hardly.  what you'll see instead is reservoirs full of water and poor people thirsting to death.
04:21 <Lucifer> the difference between an archist and a capitalist: capitalists want government to protect their incomes
04:21 <Lucifer> a/archist/anarchist
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04:54 <GodTodd> blergle
04:55 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:55 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 59.5°F (9:58 PM CDT on October 19, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising).
05:01 <Lucifer> damn, dude, you move to iowa or something?
05:01 <Gursikh> dang, GodTodd even beat me
05:03 <Lucifer> http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/78717?from=36hr_fcst10DayLink_undeclared
05:03 <Lucifer> my wife was making fun of people like me who are predicting a bitter cold winter
05:04 <Lucifer> of course, when we have such a winter, it does tend to set in in October, and it hasn't yet if it's coming
05:29 <GodTodd> apparently it has here :/
05:29 <GodTodd> heh
05:33 <GodTodd> hrmmm
05:36 <spidey> #weather 38256
05:37 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in 5 mi NE of, Paris, Tennessee is 53.4°F (10:40 PM CDT on October 19, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Rising).
05:37  * GodTodd is not a big fan of uniform circular motion :/
05:38 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
05:38 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 61.2°F (10:41 PM CDT on October 19, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising).
05:51 <Lucifer> v^2/r is all you need to know
05:52 <Lucifer> too bad i don't remember what that gives you, though
05:59 <GodTodd> angular acceleration, i think
06:00 <GodTodd> radial acceleration, actually
06:05 <Lucifer> radial and angular acceleration are the same thing :)
06:06 <Lucifer> well, if you don't want to do uniform circular motion, would you like to do my statics homework?
06:06 <GodTodd> no thanks...got plenty more physics homework to do
06:06 <GodTodd> :)
06:06 <Lucifer> heh
06:07 <Lucifer> I wonder if it's too late to submit my assignment 1 for government
06:07 <Lucifer> it's really late, and I still haven't done it, and I don't really want to do it
06:07 <GodTodd> heh
06:07 <GodTodd> what's the assignment?
06:07 <Lucifer> I think my life will be better if I don't do it, even if that means I get a B in teh class eventually
06:07 <Lucifer> it's a persuasive paper
06:07 <Lucifer> forgot the topic already
06:07 <GodTodd> heh
06:08 <Lucifer> I think I'll do my research for my comp 2 paper and work on statics, and email my government instructor and apologize for not finishing assignment 1
06:08 <GodTodd> all i have to do for govt is write a page a week summarizing a talking heads show and take 4 tests
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06:08 <Lucifer> if I were taking it as a lecture course, it'd probably be less work, but would require regular attendance
06:08 <GodTodd> we're never there more than 1.5 hours
06:09 <Lucifer> I've fallen off of looking at my todo list, however, which is very bad, so I've lost track of shit this last week that I shouldn't have lost track of
06:09 <Lucifer> you got a gravy government class, what can i say?  :)
06:09 <Lucifer> none looked good for my schedule when I was making it, so this is what i signed up for
06:09 <GodTodd> heh...it's taught by a political consultant...of course it's gravy ;)
06:09 <Lucifer> I'll take the test tomorrow and kick ass on it and move on, I think
06:10 <Lucifer> hell, my history 1 class was more work than that and it was gravy :)
06:10 <Lucifer> history 2 was 5 tests and one paper, though
06:10 <Lucifer> easy tests, too, since it was reconstruction -> present
06:10 <GodTodd> my american history class was a 3 week jobber
06:11 <Lucifer> had i known then what i know now, I would've done history in the summer as two 5.5 week classes, and government the same the following summer
06:11 <Lucifer> those are just for transfer, you know, core shit, so they're not holding anything back at all
06:12 <GodTodd> yeah...that woulda been easier than my calc 1 and 2 in 11 weeks
06:12 <GodTodd> heh
06:12 <Lucifer> still, I need to do decently in my government class this semester, but I need to be *finished* with it this semester too
06:12 <Lucifer> yeah, the thing about history in 5.5 weeks is that I could literally get away with just showing up.  Teh tests would come so often that the information would still be fresh when they come
06:13 <GodTodd> i'm getting close to where i need to look into a smooth transfer
06:13 <Lucifer> and it's not like you have to really process that info, it's more like "learn what the teacher said, spit it up on the test"
06:13 <GodTodd> yep
06:13 <Lucifer> shit, that reminds me, I need to assemble my application for transfer this semester too
06:13 <Lucifer> dammit
06:13 <GodTodd> i need to apply to UTD
06:13 <GodTodd> so's i can lock in the comet thingy for tuition
06:13 <Lucifer> I need to quit fucking around.  I picked up that lead and took advantage of the opportunity to fuck off, and am now having a hell of a time getting back to work
06:14 <Lucifer> hey, did I tell you that the out-of-state problem will not exist for me any more?
06:14 <Lucifer> hm, maybe I didn't tell you about it at all :)
06:14 <GodTodd> i just need to keep from doing my physics on the last day ;)
06:14 <GodTodd> what out of state problem?
06:14 <Lucifer> been doing that with statics, it's not working
06:15 <Lucifer> well, I was considered out of state when I started school, right?
06:15 <GodTodd> ah...hadn't been here a year?
06:15 <Lucifer> UT said to establish residency, I had to do all the stuff required by law, and I also couldn't take more than half-time credit at ACC in the meantime
06:15 <Lucifer> well, the limit was actually 3/4, so 9 hours in the long semesters, 6 in the short, and that was the limit
06:16 <Lucifer> so I took 9 hours the first semester, which was spring, took the summer off, and then for the fall, my wife and i said "fuck it", because if you get $1000 or more in scholarships, state schools have to charge you in-state rates
06:16 <Lucifer> even if they consider you out-of-state otherwise
06:16 <Lucifer> and that was all that mattered, price of tuition, right?  ;)
06:17 <GodTodd> right
06:17 <Lucifer> anyway, the lady at UT was expecting me to try to transfer to UT asap, instead of hanging around at ACC picking up every little credit I could before transferring
06:17 <Lucifer> so she advised accordingly, and under her schedule, I would've had problems
06:17 <Lucifer> turns out, though, that UT also has to consider you in-state, by law, if any other school in texas has classified you as in-state for at least one year
06:18 <Lucifer> ACC's residency requirements were a little more lenient, and I've been classes in-state by them for awhile now
06:18 <GodTodd> yeah...the main thing in tx is that you have to have lived/schooled here for a year
06:18 <Lucifer> right, done that :)
06:18 <Lucifer> we're on 3 years now, I think
06:19 <GodTodd> yep...that's why i took the first year off
06:19 <GodTodd> so's quad c would see me as in state and in county
06:19 <Lucifer> it's another one of those "had we known then what we know now" things, I would've started with a lot more credits than I did
06:19 <GodTodd> truly
06:20 <Lucifer> be a lot farther along, a lot less tired, etc.
06:20 <GodTodd> same here...if karen had added me to the deed here once we were married, i could have started in state a year earlier
06:20 <Lucifer> or maybe more tired, but less exhausted.  It's a war of attrition, and I'm not wired for that!
06:20 <GodTodd> cuz one year as a property owner counts
06:20 <Lucifer> yep
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06:21 <Lucifer> we actually had a little fight with ACC because i had been working as a contractor for a california company, and they went out of their way to not tell me what I needed for residency
06:21 <GodTodd> ah well..shiite happens :)
06:21 <Lucifer> spent an extra unplanned semester paying out of state tuition, still pissed about that
06:21 <Lucifer> then they told me I was still not considered in-state, and that's where we fought
06:21 <Lucifer> they cleared it up for me, so now I'm in-state
06:21 <GodTodd> you should be
06:21 <Lucifer> it was quite annoying, though
06:22 <Lucifer> but now I love ACC, so I'm not that pissed anymore
06:22 <GodTodd> yeah...school administration usually is more complicated than it needs to be
06:22 <Lucifer> I think I'm going to start taking my jo with me to chemistry
06:22 <Lucifer> that girl that stands next to me in the lab started again today
06:22 <GodTodd> i probably should get my ass to UTD soon and make sure that i'm on track for transfer
06:23 <Lucifer> no sooner does he finish lecturing on what we're going to do than she starts asking "What are we doing?"
06:23 <GodTodd> bahaahha
06:23 <Lucifer> she's not asking in general, either.  she's asking *me*
06:23 <GodTodd> i *love* people like that :/
06:23 <Lucifer> I asked her today "he just explained it, didn't you pay attention?"
06:23 <GodTodd> tell her "i dunno, thought you knew"
06:23 <GodTodd> heh
06:23 <MrBougo> i love how windows made tha shutdown command, supposed to work over a network
06:23 <MrBougo> and i can't find anyone who got it running
06:24 <Lucifer> MrBougo: I love telling kids in my lab to press the power button to turn off the computer, and then explaining that it makes more sense than pressing "start" when you want to quit
06:24 <Lucifer> (we have macs in the lab)
06:24 <MrBougo> haha
06:24 <MrBougo> you feel like an IT hero, dont you?
06:24 <MrBougo> saving the world from working macs
06:25 <Lucifer> I kept telling her to ask the teacher, and she just went off bitching that I'm supposed to know this stuff
06:25 <GodTodd> haha
06:25 <Lucifer> so I ignored her, but wanted to hit her
06:25 <MrBougo> omg
06:26 <GodTodd> i wonder if i should scale down to 3 classes next semester...when i take physics 2
06:26 <Lucifer> nah
06:26 <Lucifer> not if you learn physics 1 well, at least
06:26 <GodTodd> maybe not....this humanities class is what's tiring me out this semester
06:26 <Lucifer> all the equations you see in physics 2 are straight up copies of the ones you already learned in physics 1
06:26 <GodTodd> more work than it fucking needs to be
06:27 <Lucifer> when will these instructors figure out that we're taking these classes because we're required to?
06:27 <GodTodd> they won't
06:27 <Lucifer> if we had 1 billion dollars laying around, we wouldn't even bother with school, we'd just start building the rocket
06:27 <GodTodd> er, actually, they know...they just don't give a fuck and they think they can make you love their field
06:27 <Lucifer> ooo, I love and hate those instructors
06:27 <GodTodd> same
06:28 <GodTodd> i hated the rigamaroll going to the movie we had to see
06:28 <GodTodd> but it wasn't a half bad movie
06:28 <Lucifer> I love them because they tend to make the class really easy so you won't be traumatized by the class, but i hate them because I don't ive a fuck about their field and they always try to "convert" me
06:28 <GodTodd> yeah...this one doesn't make it really easy tho
06:28 <Lucifer> my chem teacher's realistic.  She's cool, and she knows I don't give a fuck about chemistry, but that I actually have to know it (not just get by)
06:29 <GodTodd> my chem teacher rocked
06:29 <Lucifer> man, both of my chem teachers rock.  :)
06:29 <GodTodd> the american chemical society test thing we had to take at the end (as the final) was the easiest test we took
06:29 <Lucifer> but they just make me want to really hurt the chem teacher whose class I dropped
06:30 <GodTodd> he said that he prided himself on the people pasisng his class being some of the best in the country on that test
06:30 <Lucifer> all this memorization bullshit.  I'm with Einstein, I don't want to clutter my head with shit I can look up.
06:30 <GodTodd> passing*
06:30 <GodTodd> that's the way my calc 2 teacher was
06:30 <Lucifer> there's no substitute for good teaching, that's all there is to it
06:30 <GodTodd> why memorize the shit that you can look up? ;)
06:30 <Lucifer> well, there is a fair amount of shit in calc you have to memorize :/
06:30 <GodTodd> true
06:31 <GodTodd> but a lot more you can look up
06:31 <GodTodd> he made sure to difefrentiate the two
06:31 <GodTodd> difefrentiate*
06:31 <Lucifer> really, I can look up all the trig identities I want, but unless I have them committed to memory, I don't even have a clue what I'm looking for
06:31 <GodTodd> dammit
06:31 <GodTodd> differentiate
06:31 <GodTodd> **
06:31 <Lucifer> my calc teacher did that too, but he did require us to memorize stuff for the test, just not much
06:32 <GodTodd> same
06:32 <Lucifer> but calc is different.  I'm happy looking up formulas in physics, even if my teachers aren't :)
06:32 <GodTodd> we get notecards for the physics tests :)
06:32 <Lucifer> I only have to know two formulas for my chem test, and I get a notecard :)
06:32 <GodTodd> he doesn't expect us to memorize a whole lot
06:32 <Lucifer> I'll put electron configuration on it too, and that'll probably do it for me
06:33 <Lucifer> 90% of chemistry is unit conversion, really
06:33 <GodTodd> you have the easy way to memorize the shells?
06:33 <Lucifer> nah, I get to put those on the notecard :)
06:33 <MrBougo> "I don't want to clutter my head with shit I can look up" >99% agreed
06:33 <Lucifer> if you have an easy way, though, I'll take it
06:34 <GodTodd> trying to figure out how to show it to you heh
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06:34 <MrBougo> hehe
06:34 <Lucifer> well, there's that diagram
06:34 <MrBougo> what about the shells?
06:34  * Lucifer tries to remember what it's called
06:34 <GodTodd> MrBougo: easy way to remember the order that electrons fill them
06:34 <MrBougo> oh
06:35 <MrBougo> i used to know that
06:35 <MrBougo> but now i dont, because it's useless at the moment...
06:35 <MrBougo> next year i'll have to know them again
06:35 <GodTodd> yeah...i'd have to dredge it up too
06:36 <Lucifer> hell, she's even going to give us constants :)
06:36 <GodTodd> heh
06:36 <GodTodd> talk about gravy :P
06:36 <Lucifer> but man, the next time she says "No-bell" gas, I want to slap her and say "It's Noble, because they hate everyone!"
06:36 <GodTodd> hahaha
06:37 <GodTodd> no, it's noble because they think they're better than everyone and everyone aspires to be like them
06:37 <GodTodd> ;)
06:38 <GodTodd> if it's "No-bell" gas, then is the medal thingy they give the nobel prize winners made of neon?
06:38 <GodTodd> ;)
06:38 <GodTodd> make it blink and shit
06:40  * GodTodd pictures al gore with neon bling.
06:41 <Gursikh> <blink> <Marquee> <H1> AL GORE! </h1> </marquee> </blink>
06:42 <Lucifer> fuck that
06:42 <Lucifer> man
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06:43 <Gursikh> it was that <blink> wasn't it?
06:43 <Lucifer> and the marquee
06:43 <Gursikh> hmm
06:43 <Lucifer> I could've survived one of them
06:43 <Gursikh> I'll use this next time: http://cheese.blartwendo.com/web21-demo.html
06:43 <Lucifer> not gonna go look
06:44 <Gursikh> lol html 2 strick ajax server side blink >_>
06:44 <Lucifer> heh
06:44 <Lucifer> tank wrote a pong game that ran largely on the server side
06:45 <Lucifer> used an autoreload and gd to render a png
06:45 <Lucifer> came in around 1 fps
06:45 <Gursikh> lol
06:46 <Gursikh> ajax marquee http://atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl/~d129682/web21/web21-marquee.html
06:46 <Lucifer> still not looking!
06:46  * Lucifer likes what he sees in ajax, but doesn't like marquees
06:46 <Gursikh> lol
06:46 <Lucifer> man, I don't like marquees on signs by the road, I definitely don't want them in webpages
06:46 <Gursikh> this is the SECOND discussion i've had today abbout <marquee>  and <blink>
06:47 <Lucifer> you must be filled with suppressed frustration right now, then
06:48 <Lucifer> ok, since the paper my research is for is due in 2 weeks, I'm going to skip tomorrow and just write the paper next week sometime
06:48 <Lucifer> she said I can have 3 absences, and I really *really* need to study chem and statics right now
06:48 <Lucifer> so I'll go back over her practice test and make sure I know the formulas, and I should be fine
06:48 <Gursikh> I think maybe you'd be happy with....
06:49 <Gursikh>  <span style="text-decoration: blink">...</span>
06:49 <Gursikh> :-P
06:50 <GodTodd> next week i have 2 physics assignments due and test 2 in physics
06:50 <GodTodd> also prelab for physics lab
06:51 <GodTodd> shaping up to be all physics all the time next weke
06:51 <GodTodd> week*
06:51 <MrBougo> NOOOO
06:51 <MrBougo> i clicked on the marquee link D:
06:51 <MrBougo> it's horrible
06:52 <MrBougo> text moves, what the hell
06:52 <MrBougo> D:
06:52 <Lucifer> I thought people in Belgium had a fixation with shit like that?
06:52 <GodTodd> <luke-jr> idiot </luke-jr>
06:52 <MrBougo> except me
06:52 <MrBougo> i have a decent mind
06:52 <MrBougo> jesus, server-side blink tag
06:53 <MrBougo> what site uses that kind of shit
06:53 <MrBougo> i mean... except sites made with miicro$oft frontpage / word
06:53 <Lucifer> er, I thought the w3c approved this:  <idiot> luke-jr </idiot>  ?
06:54 <Lucifer> that'd be a neat easter egg for qt's textview widget
06:54 <GodTodd> heh
06:55 <GodTodd> i personally think the luke-jr tag should be used
06:55 <Lucifer> they might even go for it, since luke-jr has been active off and on in there
06:55 <GodTodd> <luke-jr> RTFM </luke-jr>
06:56 <GodTodd> wtf names their kid Meade?
06:57 <GodTodd> <luke-jr> ur all going to Hell </luke-jr>
06:58 <Lucifer> same person who'd name their kid Beere, I presume
06:58 <GodTodd> that's my physics teacher's name
06:58 <GodTodd> Meade Brooks
06:59 <GodTodd> what a fucking gay name
06:59 <GodTodd> heh
06:59 <Lucifer> isn't she a pr0n chick?
06:59 <Gursikh> lol
06:59 <Gursikh> "she"
07:00 <GodTodd> he's a ddude
07:00 <GodTodd> that's the sad part
07:00 <Gursikh> lol
07:00 <GodTodd> dude*
07:00 <Gursikh> "he"
07:00 <GodTodd> and all the fucking music and flash on his website is about to drive me up the wall
07:00  * GodTodd grumbles.
07:00 <Gursikh> no script+flashblock
07:01 <Lucifer> for some reason, I'm reminded that that annoying chick gave me a CD
07:01 <GodTodd> of pr0n?
07:01 <Lucifer> she asked me what kind of music I liked, so i asked the guy next to me what kind he liked
07:01 <Lucifer> he answered with "classical celtic music", so I answered her with the same
07:01 <GodTodd> haah
07:01 <MrBougo> haha
07:01 <Lucifer> she was thoroughly annoyed that we weren't answering honestly
07:01 <GodTodd> classical celtic is cool tho
07:01 <GodTodd> sets a nice mood
07:02 <Lucifer> really, if she didn't recognize it when I said (after being assigned an unknown substance) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!", then I don't *want* her to know
07:02 <GodTodd> haahha
07:02 <Gursikh> naw you should've said something crazy stupid but real
07:02 <Gursikh> like...uhmmm what was that link a while back?
07:02 <Lucifer> the marquee link?
07:02 <Gursikh> ah, Polish Reggae Bhangra
07:03 <GodTodd> Rockabilly Polka
07:03 <Gursikh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTbSL2wM0fk
07:03 <Lucifer> I should've answered Polka, really, and sang "I don't wnat her you can have her she's too fat for me.... she's too fat for me.... she's too fat for me...."
07:03 <Lucifer> (this girl is 21 and 300+ pounds)
07:03 <GodTodd> my dad used to sing that all the time
07:03 <Lucifer> "she's too fat, she's too fat, she's too fat for me!"
07:03 <Gursikh> also note ^^ that may be the worst video ever
07:03 <Lucifer> I actually got to see a polka band play it, it was great fun :)
07:04 <GodTodd> you should have told her you *love* Matisyahu
07:04 <MrBougo> lol, i dont know that song
07:04 <Lucifer> MrBougo: google it up, the Too Fat Polka :)
07:04 <GodTodd> Hassidic Jew rapepr
07:04 <GodTodd> rapper*
07:04 <Gursikh> hmm, should've said harcore gay metal music
07:04 <Lucifer> that wouldn't sound so crazy in a state where a Jewish Cowboy put up a credible bid for governor
07:05 <GodTodd> true
07:06 <Lucifer> so now I'm sort of obligated to listen to this CD she gave me
07:06 <GodTodd> what is it?
07:06 <Lucifer> but I have 2 weeks to worry about it, since we're supposed to be going to the xprizecup next week
07:06 <Lucifer> The Sound of Urchin
07:06 <GodTodd> like...the sea creatures?
07:07 <Lucifer> this looks like emo music
07:07 <Lucifer> "A Better Place"
07:07 <Lucifer> "Disappointment has come upon me"
07:07 <Gursikh> 1- Wafting in the water
07:07 <Lucifer> "Don't walk me down that road"
07:07 <Gursikh> 2-plopping onto the butches table
07:07 <Gursikh> 3-catching plankton by the moonlight
07:08 <Gursikh> 4-getting stepped on
07:08 <GodTodd> do urchin even make a sound?
07:08 <Lucifer> I hope it is emo music, she seemed to think it was pretty good and I might like it
07:08 <Lucifer> I'd just love to give it back to her and say it was emo music
07:08 <Lucifer> so it offended the peace in my soul or something like that
07:08 <GodTodd> look at Lucifer...making nice with the emo fatties :)
07:09 <Lucifer> heh
07:09 <Lucifer> there's some really nice, smart, and hot chicks in my chem class
07:09 <Lucifer> why did I have to get the annoying chick?
07:09 <GodTodd> cuz karma hates you? ;)
07:10 <GodTodd> i got a kneetoe lanyard for my flash drives the other day
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07:10 <Lucifer> lanyard?  wtf is a lanyard?
07:10 <GodTodd> found it in the parking lot attached to someone's WSVG badge
07:10 <Gursikh> lol
07:10 <GodTodd> it's that thing that goes around your neck to hold shit
07:10 <Lucifer> wsvg?  dude, you're using words I don't know, quit it!
07:10 <GodTodd> world series of video games
07:11 <Lucifer> ah, I call those things "shoelaces"
07:11 <GodTodd> some world of warcraft luser lost his badge
07:11 <GodTodd> and now i have his lanyard
07:11 <GodTodd> :D
07:11  * Gursikh bets it says "I LOVE WOW" all around it
07:11 <Lucifer> I used to carry my keys on a shoelace tied around my neck
07:11 <GodTodd> nah
07:11 <GodTodd> intel
07:11 <GodTodd> it was sponsored by intel
07:12 <Lucifer> I still would if it hadn't given me a rash
07:12 <Gursikh> as in "I have no intel-igence" ?
07:12 <GodTodd> something
07:12 <GodTodd> ;)
07:12 <Lucifer> hey, just because WoW geeks are emos doesn't mean they're dumb!
07:12 <GodTodd> but the lanyard works perfectly for my use
07:12 <GodTodd> and he didn't need the badge anymore anyways
07:12 <Gursikh> some wierd sexual perversion?
07:12 <GodTodd> it was for july
07:13 <GodTodd> yeah...that and carrying my flash drives
07:13  * Gursikh bets it's one and the same
07:13 <Gursikh> some sort of flash drive orgy
07:13 <Lucifer> when he says flash drives, he means fleshlight
07:13 <Gursikh> aaahhh
07:13 <GodTodd> shhhh
07:13 <GodTodd> :P
07:14 <GodTodd> they have strings on them....makes it easier to pull them out
07:14 <GodTodd> :D
07:14 <Lucifer> I had a guy try to talk me into buying one of those, but I couldn't see spending $50 on something that feels like my hand
07:14 <GodTodd> heh
07:14 <GodTodd> took it for a test drive, didya?
07:14 <GodTodd> ;)
07:15 <Lucifer> nah, never actually used one.  balked a little too much at the price tag, and it's not exactly something you can borrow from your friends
07:15 <GodTodd> if you can, you need better friends
07:15 <GodTodd> :/
07:15 <Lucifer> or a girlfriend, heh
07:15 <Gursikh> or less "friendly" friends
07:16 <GodTodd> that type of friend probably thinks you can use a condom more than once
07:16 <GodTodd> save on money, ya know
07:16 <Lucifer> you can't?!?!?
07:16 <GodTodd> explains the 3 kids, eh?
07:16 <GodTodd> ;)
07:16 <Lucifer> heh
07:16 <Lucifer> nah, we were doing mexican roulette
07:17 <Lucifer> very kinky, but doesn't work
07:17 <GodTodd> heh
07:17 <Lucifer> you could have stopped at N
07:17 <MrBougo> we can download+upload 12 gigs a month
07:17 <Lucifer> that's it?
07:17 <MrBougo> YES
07:17 <Gursikh> maybe move out of belgainia?
07:17 <MrBougo> it sucks, doesnt it?
07:18 <Lucifer> yeah, move to Francium
07:18 <Gursikh> mos def
07:18 <MrBougo> fuck you, belgacom
07:18 <MrBougo> they have a monopoly
07:18 <Lucifer> see?  this is why we don't take economic advice from europeans
07:18 <GodTodd> [2007-10-20 00:17] <MrBougo> I HATE BELGIANS
07:18 <MrBougo> ew
07:19 <Lucifer> it's better to have a choice among 4 crappy service providers than 1 crappy monopoly
07:19 <MrBougo> Lucifer: its only in belgium afaik
07:19 <Gursikh> @work I prefer the belgians over the swiss or german actually
07:19 <MrBougo> our isps are retards
07:19 <GodTodd> waffles over chocolate?
07:19 <Lucifer> not me, the only swiss person I've ever met was this really cute redhead
07:19 <Lucifer> GodTodd: over beer too, he says
07:19 <Gursikh> but work != real life
07:19 <GodTodd> and cheese
07:19 <Lucifer> and the swiss make the kickingassiest knives in the world
07:20 <Lucifer> er, or is it asskickingest?
07:20 <GodTodd> germans make cuckoo clocks
07:20 <GodTodd> asskickingest
07:20 <MrBougo> i'll take one, to kick belgacom
07:20 <Lucifer> you can probably just walk over to the victorinox factory and buy one
07:22 <Lucifer> hey, in december I'll have had my new knife for a year, and it still has the toothpick and the tweezers!
07:22 <GodTodd> stupid motherfucking cocksucking cumguzzler
07:22 <MrBougo> ?
07:22 <Lucifer> MrBougo: I had my old knife for like 10 years or so, then my wife lost the toothpick
07:22  * GodTodd will never ask to borrow the toothpick
07:22 <Lucifer> I held it against her for a long time.  Still am holding it against her, in fact
07:23 <Lucifer> so finally, I got a new one for christmas (from my wife), and she knows better than to lose the toothpick
07:23 <MrBougo> hehe
07:23 <Lucifer> especially since she sees me using it, and mostly quit biting my nails
07:23 <Lucifer> now she's like "Man, I should never have lost his toothpick"
07:23 <Lucifer> (she's thinking of all the accidental scratches she's gotten over the years from having bit nails)
07:24 <MrBougo> ew, bit nails
07:24 <Lucifer> (and yes, those scratches were in uncomfortable locations)
07:24 <MrBougo> ew
07:24 <MrBougo> biting nails is sick
07:24 <Lucifer> is not
07:24 <MrBougo> it is
07:24 <Lucifer> I guess you don't see the connection
07:24  * GodTodd bites his nails at MrBougo
07:24 <MrBougo> ew
07:24 <MrBougo> the connection between what and what
07:25 <Lucifer> see, I used to bite one per day and use it to pick my teeth, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A TOOTHPICK!
07:25 <MrBougo> ow what the hell
07:25 <MrBougo> using bit nails as toothpicks?
07:25 <Lucifer> yes
07:25 <MrBougo> that's even more sick
07:25 <Lucifer> well, then eating them
07:25 <GodTodd> they work well
07:25 <Lucifer> they work very well
07:26 <MrBougo> damn, do you eat your toothpicks?
07:26 <Lucifer> except pinky nails, those don't work so well
07:26 <Lucifer> no, I only have one, and then it'd be gone
07:26 <GodTodd> MrBougo: no, the nails
07:26 <GodTodd> silly
07:26 <Lucifer> and I'd be back to biting my nails again
07:26 <MrBougo> you guys are disgusting
07:26 <MrBougo> :p
07:26 <Lucifer> well, I still bite my nails, just not as often
07:26 <Lucifer> sometimes you just get a craving...
07:26  * GodTodd is biting his nails as we type
07:27 <Lucifer> MrBougo: do you trim your nails with one of those nail-clippers that never seems to actually be the same size as your fingertips?
07:27 <GodTodd> i don't think i've used a fingernail clipper in 20 years
07:27 <MrBougo> yep
07:27 <Lucifer> MrBougo: ever cut yourself with one?
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07:27 <Lucifer> those are like the nastiest cuts
07:27 <MrBougo> nah, i'm careful
07:27 <Lucifer> I prefer to bite and file, to be honest
07:27 <MrBougo> lol
07:27  * GodTodd eats fingerskin too
07:27 <Lucifer> only I don't normally file, because that's boring
07:28 <MrBougo> do your teeth fit your fingertips?
07:28 <Lucifer> there's no part of the human body that is not edible!
07:28 <Lucifer> MrBougo: no, but it's more like sculpting
07:28 <Lucifer> you only trim where needed
07:28 <GodTodd> ask dahmer :)
07:28 <Lucifer> besides, get a good run going and the nail trims itself to your finger's shape
07:28 <MrBougo> some people sculpt with chainsaws
07:28 <MrBougo> you should consider that
07:29 <Lucifer> to clip fingernails?  Why would I do that?  My teeth work perfectly fine
07:29 <GodTodd> teeth are more versatile than just eating food
07:29 <Lucifer> well, maybe bones aren't quite edible, but you can suck the marrow out!
07:29 <Lucifer> hell yeah, teeth are damn handy for lots of things
07:30 <GodTodd> they open a lot of shit for me
07:30 <Lucifer> wire stripping
07:30 <GodTodd> holding shit
07:30 <Lucifer> they're better sized than the specialty tools you can buy
07:30 <Lucifer> opening bottles
07:30 <Lucifer> they're a natural weapon, too
07:30 <GodTodd> yep
07:31 <Lucifer> so take care of your teeth
07:31 <GodTodd> people just don't realize all the shit they can do if they just utilize their body parts to the max
07:31 <Lucifer> no kidding
07:31 <Lucifer> first time I opened a beer bottle with my rectum, I was like "I'm never buying another can opener again!"
07:31 <GodTodd> haah
07:32 <MrBougo> wth
07:33 <GodTodd> you open beer bottles with can openers?
07:34 <MrBougo> i dont open beer bottles
07:34 <GodTodd> makes it hard to drink, donin?
07:34 <Lucifer> still use skins?
07:34 <GodTodd> donit*
07:34 <Lucifer> man, we have got to go civilize belgium!
07:34 <GodTodd> don't tell bush...he'll invade tomorrow
07:35 <Lucifer> nah, they'll just say they have nukes and he'll back down
07:35 <Lucifer> wuss
07:35 <GodTodd> heh
07:35 <GodTodd> they don't even have decent internet...how can they have nukes?
07:35 <GodTodd> ;d
07:35 <GodTodd> :D
07:35 <Lucifer> stole them from France?
07:36 <MrBougo> ew =(
07:36 <GodTodd> france is too busy being gay
07:36 <Lucifer> can't be too hard.  Just point a stick at the french and they'll give you anything
07:36 <MrBougo> especailly to the actual president
07:36 <GodTodd> isn't he the one getting a divorce?
07:36 <MrBougo> wait before nuking belgium
07:36 <MrBougo> yep, he is
07:36 <Lucifer> didn't they shit-can the surrender-monkey?
07:36 <MrBougo> sucker xD
07:36 <GodTodd> the french president i mean
07:37 <MrBougo> yup
07:37 <MrBougo> wait before nuking belgium
07:37 <Lucifer> yeah, he is
07:37 <Lucifer> poor guy
07:37 <MrBougo> wait till we get a government
07:37 <Lucifer> we're not going to nuke belgium, we're going to civilize you
07:37 <MrBougo> we need a gov first
07:37 <Lucifer> just like we did in cuba, viet nam, and are working on in afghanistan and iraq
07:37 <GodTodd> it looks the same, but it's really different ;)
07:37 <MrBougo> what "poor guy", he's a sucker
07:37 <Lucifer> he's not a sucker, he loves the US, so he can't be all that bad
07:38 <MrBougo> oh yea, bush is defending human rights... forgot about that
07:38 <Lucifer> I was actually thinking "it must suck to be president and have your wife leave you"
07:38 <MrBougo> he loves bush actually
07:38 <GodTodd> man love?
07:38 <Lucifer> all frenchmen love bush
07:38 <MrBougo> not all
07:38 <Lucifer> you can't be french and not love bush
07:38 <GodTodd> they do not
07:38 <GodTodd> they love dick
07:38 <GodTodd> heh
07:38 <MrBougo> well, theres a beer called bush
07:38 <MrBougo> it's made in belgium
07:38  * Lucifer quietly notes "bush" is slang for "female sexual organ located in the lower abdominal area"
07:38 <MrBougo> lots of export to the US :p
07:39 <Lucifer> I used beaver in that context at school and the damn kids didn't get it
07:39 <Lucifer> damn kids
07:39 <MrBougo> haha
07:39  * GodTodd quietly notes "dick" is slang for "male sexual organ located in the lower abdominal area" as well as the first name of the VP
07:39 <Lucifer> never seen a naked woman before
07:39 <MrBougo> how is your class
07:39 <Lucifer> my ass is fine, thanks
07:40 <MrBougo> err... ok
07:40 <MrBougo> good to know
07:40 <GodTodd> shake that healthy butt
07:40 <MrBougo> haha
07:40 <GodTodd> kids don't get that reference either usually :/
07:42 <MrBougo> brb
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07:43 <Lucifer> holy shit, this is Bush's sister: Dorothy Bush Koch
07:43 <Lucifer> which I read as "Dorothy Bush Cock"
07:43 <GodTodd> heh
07:44 <MrBougo> lol
07:44 <GodTodd> too bad there's not a Dick Bush
07:45 <Lucifer> that would be hopelessly redundant
07:45 <GodTodd> amusing nonetheless
07:45 <Lucifer> like saying George "Idiot" Bush
07:45 <Lucifer> it was a very bad day for the US when that asshat got elected
07:45 <Lucifer> really
07:46 <Lucifer> bad
07:46 <Lucifer> day
07:46 <GodTodd> he only got elected by the electoral college
07:46 <GodTodd> the people elected gore
07:46 <Lucifer> the city folk elected gore, the country bumpkins elected bush
07:46 <GodTodd> we're at a point where we could ditch the electoral college
07:46 <Lucifer> just so happens the electoral collee is supposed to balance city interests vs country interests
07:47 <GodTodd> it doesn't
07:47 <Lucifer> those european nations don't understand, they don't have cities
07:47 <GodTodd> or...at least make the electoral votes a percentage
07:47 <Lucifer> just little sprawls of huts and a netgear router
07:47 <GodTodd> you get 55% of texas, you get 55% of the electoral votes
07:47 <Lucifer> electoral votes should be, imo, counted by a run-off method
07:48 <Lucifer> so the top vote in texas gets the top choice
07:48 <Lucifer> and you have to win a higher percentage, like 80% of the votes
07:49 <GodTodd> third parties would throw that off tho
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07:52 <MrBougo> can someone explain me
07:52 <GodTodd> nope
07:53 <MrBougo> if i run nexuiz, i get a low fps, till i close every program
07:53 <GodTodd> don't know you well enough
07:53 <GodTodd> :)
07:53 <MrBougo> an if i reopen, everything's ok
07:55 <GodTodd> ram prioritization?
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07:58 <philippeqc> 'Morning
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07:59 <philippeqc> is it just me or is the forum down?
08:00 <philippeqc> hi tramshed
08:00 <tramshed> harhar
08:00 <tramshed> dont mind me, im playing musical ips
08:01 <philippeqc> can you reach the forums?
08:01 <tramshed> lookin like no
08:02 <philippeqc> thanks
08:02 <philippeqc> at least now I know it is not my setup that is broken
08:03 <tramshed> lol
08:04 <philippeqc> well, I'm half awake, come to the puter, try the forums, DEAD, try some other sites, DEAD, darn
08:04 <philippeqc> make a few errors wrting the ip of my router, making me beleive it is dead, finally reaching it, still confuse about it all, then google works,
08:05 <philippeqc> take a while for a half awoken brain to chainge from "darn my net is down" to "no its just the forums"
08:05 <philippeqc> ;)
08:06 <Lucifer> looks like the forums are down
08:06 <GodTodd> hey...are the forums down?
08:06 <Lucifer> well, they're not up
08:07 <Lucifer> so they must be oriented in a non-upward position
08:07 <GodTodd> so...theoretically they could be sideways
08:07 <Lucifer> I want to build a little sailboat now
08:07 <Lucifer> I just found out that by law, texas streams that are navigable (by some funky definition) can be used by the public
08:08 <Lucifer> we have a neat little creek down the road that can probably be navigated a fair amount by a small sailboat
08:08 <philippeqc> sideways, has the tower casing fallen?
08:08 <GodTodd> never know :)
08:09 <philippeqc> morning todd
08:09 <Lucifer> wiki doesn't seem to be responding either
08:09 <philippeqc> evening lucy
08:09 <Lucifer> morning philia
08:10 <philippeqc> lets see if I'll manage to do some productive work for aa today
08:10 <Lucifer> no choice, the forums are down :)
08:11 <philippeqc> well, last time I checked, the nets where full of wasteful activities
08:11 <philippeqc> and there is IRC too ;)
08:11 <Lucifer> maybe you'd better leave the question in mystery as to whether or not there are still wasteful activities on the internet
08:12 <philippeqc> yeah, less time commiting than to do a full survey of it all
08:14 <philippeqc> IIRC, last time i worked on zones v2, the problem was that the monitor class send an update at every tic
08:15 <philippeqc> to fix that, I think i would need a better "tFunc", so I can update it only when the source of influence on the monitor changes (ie: when a cycle enters or leave a zone)
08:17 <philippeqc> Also, z-man made his zones spin by changing the speed of rotation and its acceleration. Atop of that, I want to be able to control the base angle
08:18 <philippeqc> so I'd guess a new "tFunc" should be my first step
08:58 <Lucifer> can you still be a fan of a band when you have to use wikipedia to get updates on what they're up to?
09:08 <philippeqc> Can you still love your wife if you have to ask their best friend what they would really like for x-mass?
09:14 <GodTodd> Lucifer: depends...what's the band?
09:14 <Lucifer> anthrax
09:14 <GodTodd> hrmmm
09:14 <GodTodd> tough call on that one
09:14 <GodTodd> heh
09:15 <Lucifer> philippeqc: no, because you're supposed to be her best friend :)
09:15 <Lucifer> GodTodd: the reunion broke up sorta, and Joey Belladonna took off.  John Bush is not going back to Anthrax, but Spitz and Bello stayed.
09:15 <philippeqc> ok, ask her SECOND best friend (darn, that was assumed!)
09:15 <Lucifer> but see, their website doesn't say anything about that stuff.  It's all PR shit
09:15 <GodTodd> of course
09:15 <Lucifer> philippeqc: in that case, yes.
09:16 <GodTodd> so....who's gonna sing for them...or are they just gonna give it up?
09:16 <Lucifer> philippeqc: but if you have to go to wikipedia to find out what your wife really wants for christmas, you might as well bury her because you'll be parting soon.
09:16 <Lucifer> GodTodd: they're looking
09:17 <Lucifer> but see, if they can't say what's *really* happening on their website...
09:17 <Lucifer> the implications are just bad, that's what they are
09:17 <GodTodd> yep
09:17 <Lucifer> I'm not asking them to air their laundry there, but there's no reason not to say what's going on
09:17 <Lucifer> "Looking for a singer, can't record until we have one..."
09:18 <Lucifer> "If you don't want Scott to sing, come down and audition!  If you don't, it's your fault Scott sang!"
09:18 <GodTodd> heh
09:18 <Lucifer> like when Frank Bello left the band.  Not a notice anywhere on the site for several weeks, then just a little note saying who their new bass player was
09:19 <Lucifer> wtf?  He's like original bass player!  (At least as far as recording career goes)
09:19 <Lucifer> you don't just lose a bandmember who's been with you for 25 years and announce it as a footnote on your website!
09:19 <GodTodd> you do if there's bad blood
09:19 <Lucifer> You gotta explain!  'fess up!  Give us the straight dope!
09:20 <Lucifer> doesn't matter if there's bad blood.  You can say "he's got his side and we've got ours, and we don't want to air our laundry here, but Frankie has left the band"
09:20 <philippeqc> lol@ using wikipedia for your wife's x-mass present
09:20 <Lucifer> you can also write it out and try to express both sides, or express your side, ask him to express his side, and leave it at that, with a little note "you're our fans and you deserve this much, please let us our privacy for the rest"
09:21 <GodTodd> and anthrax has always thought of the fans?
09:21 <GodTodd> :P
09:21 <Lucifer> like here, they've known for months that John Bush isn't going back, but their website still claims Joey Belladonna as the current singer
09:21 <philippeqc> but can you consider yourself a hard-core fan if you need to rely on specialy magasin and press release to have the latest news about a band?
09:22 <Lucifer> philippeqc: yes, but only if you don't live in the same state
09:22 <Lucifer> or in the case of the smaller states, you need to live 2-3 states away before that's acceptable
09:22 <philippeqc> ;)
09:22 <Lucifer> and yes, that means that for really famous bands, you can't be a hard-core fan unless you're really close to the band
09:22 <Lucifer> so all those metallibangers out there that say they're hardcore fans?  They're posers.
09:22  * GodTodd still can't believe he doesn't have persistence of time :/
09:23  * Lucifer hasn't listened to any anthrax in a year
09:23 <Lucifer> wait, that's a lie
09:23  * philippeqc is about the furthest point one can get from being a hard-core fan, 
09:23 <Lucifer> I just put an anthrax album into my alarm clock
09:23 <GodTodd> i've only listened to parts of attack of the killer bs
09:23 <Lucifer> I think I'm sick of anthrax, seriously
09:24 <GodTodd> i haven't listened to any new anthrax beyond sound of white noise
09:24 <Lucifer> they used to be an energizing kind of band, now they're energy-draining
09:24 <Lucifer> for regular listening, you can't listen to anything after sound of white noise
09:24 <Lucifer> you have to really be in the mood for their more recent stuff
09:24 <GodTodd> i think i bought one years ago...and never listened to it
09:25 <GodTodd> stomp 442 is anthrax, right?
09:25 <Lucifer> like, to really get into Volume 8, you've damn near got to be oing through a divorce
09:25 <Lucifer> yeah, that's the one after sound of white noise
09:25 <GodTodd> yeah
09:25 <GodTodd> i have that one
09:25 <GodTodd> never listened to it tho
09:25 <GodTodd> heh
09:25 <Lucifer> that's another one that you can't listen to when your life is overall good
09:26 <Lucifer> it's not that they went emo, because they most certainly didn't, it's that you can't relate to the music unless you're experiencing some bad shit
09:26 <GodTodd> i've mostly been into lighter shit lately...bloodhound gang, cake, bowling for soup
09:26 <Lucifer> I've gone almost completely into iron maiden
09:26 <Lucifer> haven't been interested in anything else
09:26 <Lucifer> weird, really
09:27 <GodTodd> i still have some of that in the regular rotation too
09:27 <GodTodd> megadeth too
09:28 <GodTodd> tho...for some reason piece of mind doesn't seem nearly as good as it used to
09:30 <GodTodd> i've been in a mood conducive to humor in the music for a while
09:30 <GodTodd> probably stress due to school :)
09:30 <Lucifer> I haven't really been in a megadeth mood for awhile
09:30 <Lucifer> if I'm not playing guitar, I'm not interested in megadeth anymore
09:30 <Lucifer> does that mean I'm getting old?
09:30 <GodTodd> dunno
09:31 <Lucifer> that's not totally accurate, I've really taken to Hook in Mouth and make sure to listen to it a lot
09:31 <GodTodd> Youthanasia is still a good album tho
09:31 <Lucifer> that album's totally emo
09:31 <Lucifer> it's damned annoying
09:31 <GodTodd> yeah...well...sometimes even the best of us have an emo mood
09:31 <Lucifer> you're rocking along, then you realize he's whining some more and you get pissed about it
09:31 <GodTodd> :P
09:31 <GodTodd> we just try not to make a habit of it
09:31 <GodTodd> heh
09:32 <Lucifer> I'm totally with you on that, but see, with an album....
09:32 <Lucifer> that album represents 2-4 years of the band's *life*
09:32 <GodTodd> truly
09:32 <Lucifer> so maybe *I* can take a song here or there and whine by myself with it, and then slap myself afterwards, but I find it a bit repugnant that someone would make it their life
09:33 <GodTodd> tru dat
09:33 <Lucifer> that's why an emo song here or there by a good band is fine, but an entire album is not fine
09:34 <Lucifer> what does an emo kid and a nazi punk have in common?
09:34 <GodTodd> hell...i haven't even listened to queensryche in forever
09:34 <Lucifer> they both think the emo kid's life sucks
09:34 <Lucifer> I've been getting back into operation mindrcrime
09:34 <GodTodd> mindcrime is awesome
09:34 <Lucifer> what does an emo kid and a catholic preacher have in common?
09:35 <Lucifer> they both think the emo kid's life sucks
09:35 <Lucifer> what does a catholic priest and a nazi punk have in common?
09:35 <GodTodd> they both think the emo kid's life sucks
09:35 <Lucifer> aw, too predictable
09:35 <GodTodd> :)
09:37 <Lucifer> and king diamond
09:37 <Lucifer> I can't be getting old as long as I like king diamond
09:37 <Lucifer> it doesn't get more juvenile than that!
09:37 <GodTodd> oooh...that's someone i haven't listened to in forever too
09:39 <GodTodd> doesn't he live somewhere around here?
09:39 <Lucifer> somewhere in dallas
09:39 <GodTodd> yeah...i thought so
09:40 <GodTodd> i oughta dredge up where
09:40 <GodTodd> heh
09:40 <Lucifer> I tried once, you can't get an address
09:40 <Lucifer> unless you remember his real name, which I don't
09:40 <Lucifer> even then, maybe not
09:40 <Lucifer> Kim something
09:40 <GodTodd> kim something
09:40 <GodTodd> something danish
09:40 <Lucifer> yeah, something that's definitely not belgish
09:40 <Lucifer> Petersen?
09:41 <Lucifer> yep
09:41 <Lucifer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Diamond
09:41 <GodTodd> yeah...kim bendix petersen
09:42 <philippeqc> do any of you know if there is a clickable link to zones_v2 on the wiki?
09:42 <philippeqc> I cant seem to find it
09:42 <GodTodd> holy fuck...he's still recording?
09:43 <philippeqc> found one in development docs, do you know if there are more?
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09:46 <philippeqc> hi zman
09:47 <Lucifer> philippeqc: I don't know, sorry
09:47 <Lucifer> GodTodd: apparently he is
09:47 <Lucifer> that's just proof that he's not really one person, since one person could not possibly sustain that style of singing over such a long career
09:49 <GodTodd> haha
09:49 <GodTodd> yeah...says he put out an album this past june
09:50 <GodTodd> 22 fucking years
09:50 <GodTodd> wow
09:53 <GodTodd> holy fuck...i could see him for 30$
09:53 <GodTodd> King Diamond
09:54 <GodTodd> House of Blues Dallas, Dallas, TX
09:54 <GodTodd> Wed, May 7, 2008 06:30 PM
09:54 <MrBougo> lol
09:54 <GodTodd> day after my birthday :)
09:55 <GodTodd> no one would go with me tho
09:55 <GodTodd> :/
09:55 <GodTodd> heh
09:58 <Lucifer> I'd go with you
09:58 <Lucifer> but that's likely to be week of finals, or near it :(
10:00 <philippeqc> lucifer: to divorce ourself from the movie, we could start by using ladyx's moviepack as the default one. That would change us from light-cycle to light-vehicule
10:04 <GodTodd> probably so :(
10:28 <Lucifer> philippeqc: can't really do that until the code paths for rendering moviepacks and the default art are consolidated
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10:31 <Lucifer> philippeqc: technically, we have our own physics interpretation that's separate from disney's, and clearly so based on how disney's implemented their interpretation in their own games
10:31 <Lucifer> so if we could somehow move away from the light concept, preferably without resorting to magic, we're probably fine
10:32 <Lucifer> alternately, if we can get the core engine to support different game types like we've talked about before (ebonstar, ice skating, etc), then we can stay with a default tronny thing as proof-of-concept and probably be ok
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10:41 <philippeqc> Lucifer: dont the the "and clearly so based on how ..." part. I've never seen disney's game. My first introduction was a snake game where spiders left thread behind them
10:42 <Lucifer> er, what?
10:42 <philippeqc> darn, should have read you all first
10:42 <philippeqc> well, what is the "light concept" anyway
10:43 <spidey_> rofl
10:43 <spidey_> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3317104&CatId=2417
10:44 <philippeqc> reboot retook the "vehicule on a grid", but made them move on a cube and not leave traces
10:44 <spidey_> scroll down to the detailed features
10:44 <philippeqc> leaving trace is quite a general game idea, many snake clones out there
10:44 <spidey_> the usb 2.0 ports, they're advertising the mobo with a broken usb port =O
10:44 -!- spidey_ is now known as spidey
10:45 <philippeqc> broken usb port? i cant seem to find the broken part
10:46 <spidey> ....
10:46 <spidey> let me see you stick a usb device in there
10:46 <philippeqc> oooo yeeah! I saw it! the metal is bent!
10:47 <philippeqc> ;)
10:48 <epsy> hi
10:48 <philippeqc> hello
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14:20 <philippeqc> http://www.math.kobe-u.ac.jp/~kodama/tips-RubyPoly.html
14:20 <philippeqc> that should take care of our mathematical evaluation for a bit
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14:21 <philippeqc> I'm running the different samples, and it present the library capacities, most of which seems to be math I either forgotten or never learned ;)
14:21 <philippeqc> so basic animation in maps should not be much of a trouble
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16:02 <epsy> #armaconfig team_allow_shu
16:02 <armabot> epsy: TEAM_ALLOW_SHUFFLE_UP: If set to 1, players are allowed to change their position in the team as they wish. If 0, they only can drop in rank. (default: 0)
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17:09 <madmax> hi
17:09 <flex> hey max
17:09 <flex> epsy?
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17:21 <epsy> #armaconfig port
17:21 <armabot> epsy: BOOKMARK_0_PORT: Server port of the 1st server bookmark (default: 4534) || BOOKMARK_10_PORT: Server port of the 11th server bookmark (default: 4534) || BOOKMARK_1_PORT: Server port of the 2nd server bookmark (default: 4534) || BOOKMARK_2_PORT: Server port of the 3rd server bookmark (default: 4534) || BOOKMARK_3_PORT: Server port of the 4th server bookmark (default: 4534) || BOOKMARK_4_PORT: (3 more messages)
17:21 <epsy> mh
17:21 <epsy> #armaconfig min_port
17:21 <armabot> epsy: Sorry, no matches :S
17:22 <flex> #armaconfig minimum_port
17:22 <armabot> flex: Sorry, no matches :S
17:25 <madmax> #lastseen webg
17:25 <armabot> madmax: timed out
17:25 <madmax> #lastseen lackad
17:25 <armabot> madmax: Lackadaisical has last been seen on Swampland Mini 2 hours 6 minutes ago.
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17:50 <philippeqc> well, the thing is, I'd really appreciate a hand to fix the zone system
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18:46 <ghableska> #tea
18:46 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): -{GP}- Gonzap, .:] flåsh, export, pavelo, StarßtCk °MßC°, tek, Tr³yz, |<, ~*$P*~ Om3gA, ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy, ~*SP*~Pez, ~d3m0nic l3m0n~
18:59 <ghableska> I knew it!
18:59 <ghableska> http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/arts_entertainment/harry+potter+gay+twist/941547
19:02 <philippeqc> yeah, read it. Quite neat!
19:03 <ghableska> heh
19:04 <philippeqc> Dumblemore side by side with tinki winki
19:04 <ghableska> :P
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21:30 <MrBougo> night
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23:22 <no_winblowz> I would like for people to test my server, join runemaste644 on the default port
23:22 -!- no_winblowz is now known as runemaste645
23:40 <luke-jr> runemaste645: good for you
23:42 <runemaste645> can you test it please?
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23:43 <runemaste645> I am having a little trouble having it on the list of servers
23:52 <flex> epsy
23:53 <flex> epsy!
23:53 <epsy> whatever lol
23:53 <epsy> can't you talk on msn ? xD
23:53 <runemaste645> can YOU test my server?
23:53 <epsy> instead of highlighting my nick every hour here
23:53 <epsy> i'm busy sorry
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