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Log from 2007-08-29:
--- Day changed Wed Aug 29 2007
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00:30 <GodTodd> hrmm
00:30 * GodTodd wonders why he's getting a buttload of sets instead of just one sorted one :/
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01:37 <noob7> does anyone know how to make a google aps type own domain deal thingy open for sign ups?
01:38 <noob7> looks like you can only generate user accounts by hand so they can use the "gmail @ youdomain.com" but not allow them to sign up by themself
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01:54 <noob7> you guys are 7h behind and noone answering? :/
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02:09 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, was you player 1?
02:13 <Your_mom_arma> not recently
02:22 <tramshed> hah
02:22 <tramshed> your mom
02:56 <Vanhayes_> #weather saint john
02:56 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clear. Low 12C(54F).; Wednesday - Sunny. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) in the afternoon. High 22C(72F) except 26C(79F) inland. UV index 7 or high. Wednesday night cloudy periods. Fog patches (1 more message)
02:56 <Vanhayes_> #more
02:56 <armabot> Vanhayes_: along the coast. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light overnight. Low 15C(59F).; Thursday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 22C(72F).;
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04:15 <spidey> omg what have i done?!?!
04:15 <spidey> i installed that armagetronad game again
04:15 <spidey> >.<
05:02 <DrJoeTron> i actually linked Armagetron to steam
05:13 <spidey> huh?
05:13 <spidey> how?
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> noob7: maybe nobody here knows?
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: are you trying to use a standard sort function?
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: psycho
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: how did you like the taste of my flavored pubic hairs?
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma: stfu
05:28 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i am not
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: yes, you are
05:37 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: something like this -> for categories in sorted(set(category)):
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> what's the signature of sorted() ?
05:38 <GodTodd> dunno...i plagiarized that out of pilgrim's book ;)
05:39 <GodTodd> or it might have been the python tut
05:39 <GodTodd> one of those
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> it's not uncommon, although it is weird imo, for a stock sort function to return references to the same type it sorts
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> did you do a len() on each item you got out to see how many items were in it?
05:42 <GodTodd> def categoryWalk(parent, outFile, level):
05:42 <GodTodd> # category = {}
05:42 <GodTodd> for node in parent.childNodes:
05:42 <GodTodd> if node.nodeType == Node.ELEMENT_NODE:
05:42 <GodTodd> if node.nodeName == 'RecipieType':
05:42 <GodTodd> for child in node.childNodes:
05:43 <GodTodd> if child.nodeType == Node.TEXT_NODE:
05:43 <GodTodd> category[child.nodeValue] = child.nodeValue
05:43 <GodTodd> outFile.write("Recipe Category: ")
05:43 <GodTodd> categoryWalk(node, outFile, level+1)
05:43 <GodTodd> categoryList = set(category)
05:43 <GodTodd> print categoryList
05:43 <GodTodd> # strCategory = string.join(categoryList)
05:43 <GodTodd> # outFile.write(strCategory)
05:43 <GodTodd> # outFile.write('\n')
05:43 <GodTodd> # for categories in sorted(set(category)):
05:43 <GodTodd> # print categories
05:43 <GodTodd> # strCategory = string.join(set(category))
05:43 <armabot> GodTodd: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
05:44 <GodTodd> # outFile.write(strCategory)
05:44 <GodTodd> grrr
05:44 <GodTodd> sorry
05:44 <GodTodd> http://www.pastebin.ca/674319 <-- what was supposed to paaste
05:44 <GodTodd> it prints what i want...just like 20 times instead of once
05:44 <GodTodd> so it seems like a logical looping thing
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> if node.nodeName == 'RecipieType': <--- misspelled
05:46 <GodTodd> yep
05:46 <GodTodd> cuz it's misspelled in the xml that karen gave me ;)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> are you trying to end up with a sorted dict?
05:46 * Lucifer_arma hasn't used sets in python
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I see, I think
05:47 <GodTodd> essentially...yes...i want to hae a non-duplicate listt o eventually tie to a dropdown menu in the ui
05:47 <GodTodd> have*
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> I would recommend either building your own data type that'll allow you to retrieve the information sorted, or this, which is what you'd put in your own data type anyway:
05:48 <GodTodd> (once i unpuzzle how to tie python to pyqt ;))
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, nvm that. Well, not completely, if your categories have any real use, you're going to need a custom data type anyway
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> in the meantime, you could just store them in a list instead, which supports simple string sorting
05:49 <GodTodd> they're going to be a method of manipulating the big list of recipes
05:49 <GodTodd> (list by category thing)
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> also, if you're sorting for the purpose of displaying in pyqt, don't bother, let qt do the sort for you
05:50 * GodTodd is still mystified by qt :/
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> then fine, do your own sort, but hang on a bit. One thing is you might want to wait a few weeks and let it cook, since you're taking that data structures class
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> are categories just strings, then?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> how are you linking the recipes themselves to the categories?
05:51 <GodTodd> yeah...they're string elements ripped from an xml doc
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> internally, I mean, not in xml
05:51 <GodTodd> dunno
05:51 <GodTodd> heh
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> ah
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> here's what I'd do. :) That doesn't mean its good, though.
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05:51 <Lucifer_arma> Create a Recipe object and a Category object
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> in Category, put a list of weakrefs to recipes in that category
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> then have a master list of not weakrefs to every recipe
05:52 <GodTodd> weakrefs?
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> that master list should be a custom data type that uses various algorithms for speeding access to the recipes themselves
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, check the weakref module
05:53 <GodTodd> k
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> the idea is that you'll need to be able to iterate through the list of recipes, but if you store them internally as a tree, it'll be really annoying
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> so you store the tree anyway, but you use the weakref module
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> if there's a callback (I think there is) for when an object is going to be garbage-collected, use it to emit the signal to the UI that the data has changed when a recipe is deleted
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> so you now have a RecipeList and a CategoryTree object, right?
05:54 <GodTodd> sure :)
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> Category should have a __cmp__ method for each category, and a Category shoud have a list of children, which is what gives you the tree
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> the list of children should definitely start as a simple [] list, which has a built-in sort method
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> by giving a __cmp__ method in Category, the built-in sort method can be used to sort the list
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, that's what I'd do. :)
05:56 <GodTodd> hmmm
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> you could get there quicker by just using a [] list for RecipeList and going back over it later with your new class, because RecipeList needs to mimic [] anyway
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> but you may find it easier to just sit on until you've gotten a ways into your data structures class, because you'll probably talk about similar data layouts to what you've got here
05:57 <GodTodd> true
05:58 * GodTodd still hasn't figured out how to link his working recipeName list to the ui :/
05:58 <GodTodd> heh
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> you need to override QAbstractModel, more than likely
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> where your subclass takes your recipeName list and returns all the information the model is expected to return
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> then you just attach the model to a view and let qt do the work
05:59 <GodTodd> what's the multiline comment in python again?
06:00 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yeah probably
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/model-view-model-subclassing.html
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> ''' <--- multiline comment delimiter
06:00 <GodTodd> that's right :)
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's 3 '
06:01 <GodTodd> yeah
06:02 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma its an aquired taste
06:02 <DrJoeTron> spidey upgrade steam
06:03 <DrJoeTron> spidey then you can incorporate shortcuts into steam
06:03 <DrJoeTron> so you can clean up your desktop and have steam manage your game shortcuts
06:03 <DrJoeTron> as well as other shortcuts
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: also, I'd recommend fixing spelling errors whenever they appear
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing that sucks more than discovering your program doesn't work because you misspelled something is finding out it doesn't work because you spelled something correctly
06:05 <GodTodd> yeah...i just haven't gotten the gumption to go through the xml and fix it yet
06:05 <GodTodd> i plan on it tho
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> sed does wonders :)
06:06 * GodTodd hasn't learned sed :P
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> cat thexmlfile | sed 's/Recipie/Recipe/g' > thenewxmlfile
06:07 <GodTodd> wouldn't search/replace work too?
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> sure
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> but with sed you can do:
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> for afile in `ls *.xml`; do cat blahblahetc; done;
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> sed + bash, anyway
06:08 <GodTodd> yeah...but it's one file and one word :P
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06:08 <GodTodd> i don't use an assault rifle to kill a rabbit either :)
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> it was that issue over which I wanted the right spelling of capital :)
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> but rabbits run so fast, how can you be sure to hit him with just one bullet?
06:09 <GodTodd> you wait till they stop?
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> oh no, fuck no, because then they'll bolt in any direction when you fire
06:09 <GodTodd> they're not SuperBunny
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's just like the monkey problem, you wait till the monkey lets go of the branch and then fire
06:09 <GodTodd> they aren't faster than a speeding bullet
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> fire right at the moment he lets go
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> they don't have to be faster than a speeding bullet, they're a small target and your aim probably has enough error for them to move just enough to get missed
06:10 <GodTodd> shit no....fire and *make* him let go :)
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> no, becuase if he lets go right after you fire, you miss
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> your bullet will go under him
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait a minute, that's not right
06:11 <GodTodd> that's why you shoot him from behind and aim for his butt
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> what's right is that you'll miss because he doesn't let go, then your bullet goes under him
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> if he's smart, anyway
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> remember that, if someone's shooting at you in the tree, your best bet if you hear the shot (and it's a subsonic gun) is to stay put
06:12 <GodTodd> and...if you aim for his torso and he doesn't let go...he'll still get hit
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> or go up
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> depends on the gun at that point
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> if the muzzle velocity is low enough, you'll miss
06:13 <GodTodd> not if he don't move :P
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> yep
06:13 <GodTodd> even *i* can hit a monkey that sits there
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> because the bullet is falling as soon as it leaves the barrel
06:14 <GodTodd> so...if he's not gonna move, aim for his head...this all depends on how high he is too :)
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, the angle you aim at matters, but gravity is the same either way
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, wait, the higher he is, the higher you have to aim to compensate
06:15 <GodTodd> right
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> but if you aim right at his torso and then shoot as he lets go of the branch, you'll hit
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> because he's falling at the same rate the bullet's falling
06:16 <GodTodd> right
06:16 * GodTodd notes how deftly we changed from talking about python to talking about physics.
06:17 * Lucifer_arma notes he just got home from working in a physics lab
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> doing homework for statics, and realizing maybe I should pay more attention to the upcoming "this is a vector" lecture
06:17 * GodTodd notes he just got home from an ever exciting intro to humanities class
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, you shouldn't have to aim higher just because he's higher, you should only aim higher for increasing distance between you and him
06:19 <GodTodd> you have to compensate for his intelligence or lack thereof :P
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> I can see why you'd want to hack python after such a class
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06:19 <Lucifer_arma> hey, if the only useful thing I learned from physics was to go up when somebody shoots at me, I'd call it a good thing
06:20 <GodTodd> heh
06:20 <DrJoeTron> hey guys
06:20 <DrJoeTron> bug for you to fix
06:20 <Stewie-arma> rofl luci I now see what you mean by the young people play high rubber deathmatch
06:20 <DrJoeTron> theres a way to bypass color_filter_strings
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: I'm almost afraid to ask what happened
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: besides sucking on my left nipple?
06:21 <DrJoeTron> yeah
06:21 <Stewie-arma> lol, don't worry I just went in and asked everyones age, and they were all between 9-12
06:21 <Stewie-arma> then they kept on being all touchy feely
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:22 <DrJoeTron> i'll pm it to you
06:22 * Lucifer_arma wonders what the average age of the SP clan is
06:22 <Stewie-arma> "I love you HellBlade"
06:22 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:22 <GodTodd> 3?
06:22 <Stewie-arma> lucifer sorry but you have to split that up into divisions and then deathmatch and fort
06:22 <GodTodd> i love you Stewie-arma :)
06:23 <Stewie-arma> rofl
06:23 <Stewie-arma> that's a little weird coming from someone who isn't 12
06:23 <Stewie-arma> rofl
06:23 <Stewie-arma> are you talking about SP Arma luci?
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, how old are you?
06:24 * GodTodd meant it and now you've hurt my feelings :(
06:24 <Stewie-arma> a whole 15 years old,
06:24 <Stewie-arma> I'm an old geezer for deathmatch in sp
06:24 <Stewie-arma> ;P
06:25 <Stewie-arma> but still they act younger than how old they are...
06:25 <GodTodd> online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:27 <Stewie-arma> this is true todd
06:27 <GodTodd> hrmm...that might be a nice alias
06:27 <GodTodd> :)
06:27 -!- Stewie-arma is now known as eighteen
06:27 <GodTodd> #alias add disclaimer echo online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:27 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
06:27 -!- eighteen is now known as eighteenandhawt
06:27 <GodTodd> #disclaimer
06:27 <armabot> online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:27 <eighteenandhawt> lol
06:28 <eighteenandhawt> hey todd
06:28 <eighteenandhawt> rofl
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> you might want to change that to *anti*online predator disclaimer
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 21
06:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
06:28 <GodTodd> #alias add disclaimer echo anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:28 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> the thing I hate most about a new mouse is breaking in the scrollwheel
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> #disclaimer
06:28 <GodTodd> #disclaimer
06:28 <armabot> anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:28 <armabot> anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:28 <GodTodd> heh
06:29 <GodTodd> any chicks can add their own :P
06:29 * Lucifer_arma asks DrJoeTron for his ID
06:29 <eighteenandhawt> hey todd hows it going
06:29 <eighteenandhawt> rofl
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, genki hasn't been coming here
06:29 <eighteenandhawt> but she isn't 18 or over
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't mean she doesn't need her own
06:29 <GodTodd> hot == hawt like calculus == toast
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> man, there's this chick in my statics class.....I think she's the only one....
06:30 -!- eighteenandhawt is now known as eighteenandhot
06:30 <eighteenandhot> rofl lucifer
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, and then the instructor's assistant in my martial arts class
06:30 <DrJoeTron> ID for wut
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> I need to see that before I open my pants in your direction
06:30 <eighteenandhot> to bad you're married
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> more like too bad I'm currently undersexed
06:31 <GodTodd> hand fall asleep? :D
06:31 * GodTodd waits for DrJoeTron's rimjob...er...rim*shot* ;)
06:31 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd i cant fill your scat needs, you know this
06:32 <GodTodd> golden shower at least?
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> but you fill his cat's needs
06:32 <DrJoeTron> take me on a date first :I
06:32 <GodTodd> fuck no
06:32 <eighteenandhot> lucifer here is a good idea of what deathmatch players act like: http://speederclan.5.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=5933
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> do I really want to see this?
06:32 <GodTodd> waste money on you? you can't be serious
06:32 <eighteenandhot> actually you might not be able to
06:32 <eighteenandhot> hmmmm
06:33 <GodTodd> yeah...cuz yer not in the in crowd....it's a No-Lucifer_arma's club ;)
06:33 <eighteenandhot> rofl
06:33 <GodTodd> bah...i must be tired...i pet peeved myself :/
06:33 <GodTodd> yeah...cuz yer not in the in crowd....it's a No-Lucifer_armas club ;)
06:33 <GodTodd> there...that's better
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> you know, we act like that here a lot
06:34 <eighteenandhot> but not all the time do you?
06:34 * GodTodd never pretended to act his age...
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, SP doesn't act like that all the time either
06:34 <eighteenandhot> those members do lol
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> that's more like 18-and-dumb behavior than 9-12 normal behavior
06:35 * Lucifer_arma thinks if he acted his age just once, the world would stop moving
06:35 * GodTodd doesn't want to act his age when there's a bunch of people in here that are young enough to have been fathered by him :/
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, if you were sexually active at 14
06:36 <GodTodd> 32-15==17, for example
06:36 <eighteenandhot> I'm pretty sure this is 18-and-dumb behavior (http://www.collegehumor.com/)
06:36 <eighteenandhot> todd you're 15?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'm pretty sure you're not old enough to know what I mean. :) You have to be at least 30 to understand what 18-and-dumb means :)
06:36 <GodTodd> and i had a friend in AZ who had a 5 year old daughter when she was 19
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> was she hot?
06:37 <GodTodd> eighteenandhot: ummm yeah....17 years and counting :)
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> your friend, not the daughter
06:37 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pretty hot, yeah
06:38 <GodTodd> got to thinking about that the other day....that 5 year old is like 18 and graduating high school right now :/
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> and can go clubbing with her mom :)
06:38 <GodTodd> broke my hip just thinking about it
06:38 <GodTodd> heh
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> at least your wrist survived
06:39 <GodTodd> hell...knowing that family, the mom is probably grandma now ;)
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> oh shit, I just realized there's a pubescent boy next door with a broken wrist, how is he going to survive?
06:39 <GodTodd> left or right?
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> left
06:39 <GodTodd> is he left handed?
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> but I think he's right-handed
06:39 <GodTodd> if he's right handed, he'll be fine
06:39 <GodTodd> if not....gonna be a long 6 weeks or so
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> he's young enough that he probably hasn't discovered the joy of crnaking it with your offhand yet
06:40 <GodTodd> er...he's a kid...might just be like 3 weeks :)
06:40 * GodTodd crnaks all the time...
06:40 <GodTodd> :D
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> crnaking is good for the soul
06:40 <eighteenandhot> I still haven't crnaked with my offhand yet
06:40 <GodTodd> not good for the people waiting on the bathroom
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> so, the class I'm working this semester is being taught by the teacher I took in the spring
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> he told his class that I barely passed the engineering class :/
06:41 <GodTodd> did you?
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> eighteenandhot: you should try it sometime, it's like someone else doing it to you
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yeah, but that was doing like 1.5 homeworks
06:41 <GodTodd> if they have big, manly, hairy hands...
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> if I had done just 2.5 more homeworks, I'd have probably pulled a low A
06:42 <GodTodd> ahh
06:42 <GodTodd> well...do homework :P
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> last spring was...er...yeah, I'll do more homework
06:42 * Lucifer_arma wasn't happy with his grade
06:42 * GodTodd can bet not
06:42 <GodTodd> that's why i got a c in precal
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> especially for such an easy class
06:42 <GodTodd> didn't do homework
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> man, that sucks
06:43 <GodTodd> just for the gpa
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, nothing feels worse than getting a shitty grade knowing you could have done better
06:43 <GodTodd> which won't transfer anyway
06:43 <GodTodd> and precal was just to get to calc anyway
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't mean they won't look at it anyway
06:43 <GodTodd> nah...they'd look at calc I and II first
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> but this physics class was in the basic sequence for engineering, so that grade's going to follow me around and stare at me
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06:44 <GodTodd> and as long as i hold a 3.0 or better they'll be goo
06:44 <GodTodd> d
06:44 <GodTodd> you get a C in it?
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe by getting an A in statics and Eng Phys 2 they'll ignore the C :)
06:45 <GodTodd> they call yours engineering physics?
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> the calc-based stuff, yeah
06:45 <GodTodd> ours is university physics
06:45 <GodTodd> heh
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> college physics here is algebra-based
06:45 <GodTodd> that's general physics here
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> no calculus. They throw some limits in the text, but don't make you do anything with it
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, the full class titles are General College Physics 1/2
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> (that's 1 or 2, not one half)
06:46 <GodTodd> ours is General Physics (for non-scientific folks) and University Physics (for the fart smellers)
06:46 <GodTodd> 1 and 2 as well
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> is gen physics a prereq for uni physics?
06:46 <GodTodd> for both
06:46 <GodTodd> no
06:46 <GodTodd> calc I and II
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> ah, college physics is prereq for eng physics
06:47 <GodTodd> they're totally separate
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> but the instructors don't bother checking prereqs
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06:47 <Lucifer_arma> the only instructors that check prereqs are in welfare courses like history and government and english
06:48 <GodTodd> yeah...most here figure that you'll know real quick if you can handle it or you'll fail and take the prereq before trying again ;)
06:48 <eighteenandhot> finally a rapper with lessons: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1767003
06:49 * Lucifer_arma wonders why he'd want to click on a link that leads to a rapper
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> *crapper
06:49 * GodTodd doesn't click any link given by luke-jr or with 'rapper' in it
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> *crap rapper
06:49 <eighteenandhot> lol
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> *ass rapper
06:49 <GodTodd> ass raper?
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> no, rapper
06:49 <eighteenandhot> cmon it's about reading a mutha fuckin book
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> not wrapper, either
06:49 <GodTodd> crap wrapper?
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> you're too young to use language like that
06:50 <GodTodd> why are you saving your crap?
06:50 <eighteenandhot> rofl lucifer, I learned the word fuck when I was 7
06:50 <GodTodd> you sick motherfucker
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> christmas present?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> you're too old to use language like that
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> geezer
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> geezergeezergeezer
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> goozer
06:50 <GodTodd> shit, fuck, satan, death, sex, drugs, rape
06:51 * GodTodd notes that he always relates to the song "1985"
06:51 <GodTodd> :/
06:51 <GodTodd> that and "High School Never Ends"
06:51 * Lucifer_arma notes that he never relates to the song "Party like it's 1999"
06:52 <GodTodd> nah...prince is gay
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> that and "I wish I were dead because my life sucks like a bitch"
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06:52 <GodTodd> heh...that quit message would get him reprimanded in #ubuntu
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> you can't be reprimanded for a quit message, because you're gone!
06:53 <GodTodd> they'd flag it and do it if you came back
06:53 <GodTodd> :)
06:54 <DrJoeTron> when can I get access to the dev forums :I
06:55 <GodTodd> nevar!
06:55 <GodTodd> you a dev?
06:55 <DrJoeTron> as much as luke-jr is :V
06:56 <GodTodd> nah...he's an "esteemed former dev" or smth like that
06:56 <DrJoeTron> he was de dev'd?
06:56 <DrJoeTron> where the fuck have i been?
06:56 <GodTodd> dunno...there was talk about it
06:56 <GodTodd> dunno where it ended up tho
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, according to this site, the chick that played Chon Wang's wife in Shanghai Noon is native american
07:00 * GodTodd wouldn't know.
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> smth?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> smith?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> smooth?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> smithers?
07:01 <GodTodd> smth == luke-jr for something
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> sumith?
07:01 <GodTodd> i think
07:02 <GodTodd> dnt knw y ppl cnt jst typ teh wrds tehy sy
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07:03 <luke-jr> m ethr
07:04 <GodTodd> maybe it bugs me because i've been online so long and seen too many stupid abbreviations typed in by morons
07:04 <GodTodd> speaking of :)
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I know why it bugs me
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
07:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [07:09:17] <luke-jr> m ethr
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> it bugs me because people actually expect you to understand that crap
07:05 <GodTodd> i blame aol
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> in many cases, these are the same people who get all xenophobic when they have a math teacher from India
07:05 <GodTodd> yep
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> "His accent is hard to understand!"
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> "you're a fucking moron!"
07:06 * GodTodd agrees.
07:07 <GodTodd> some of the best math teachers i've had had thick accents
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> I don't really even notice accents anymore
07:07 <GodTodd> i do, if they're thick enough
07:07 <GodTodd> not enough to have to struggle to understand tho
07:07 <GodTodd> but it's like "hey, cool accent" :)
07:08 <GodTodd> like the russian guy i had this summer
07:08 <GodTodd> his accent rocked
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> I like this physics teacher's romanian accent, it's fucking cool
07:08 <GodTodd> yah...romanian is damn cool too
07:09 <GodTodd> it's a lot like russian, really
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> maybe the accent is, but the language is a romance language
07:10 <GodTodd> yeah...i was looking at accent
07:10 <GodTodd> :)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> actually, there was something about his accent that irritated me, and it still does
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> he writes his W's in the german way
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> as two overlapping Vs
07:10 <GodTodd> ahah
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's not so much that it's foreign that it irritates me, it irritates me because I don't read it as double-u, I read it as duble-vay
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> then get confused
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> I should never have to translate a letter written in a european fashion from spanish to figure out what it is!
07:12 <GodTodd> heh
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> not his fault though
07:13 <GodTodd> phew
07:13 <GodTodd> that one fucking stunk
07:19 <GodTodd> did you smell that?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> nah, sorry
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> maybe tomorrow, if there's a good southerly breeze
07:19 <GodTodd> damn...need more garlic and onions then :)
07:21 * GodTodd wonders how many more classes will teach him conversion factors :/
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> I've got at least one more, chemistry :(
07:27 <GodTodd> yeah...they definitely cover that there
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12:05 <qxdtz> luke-jr, bad
12:05 <qxdtz> pay pay
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16:41 <luke-jr> anyone want to help me crack RC4?
16:41 <P4> RC4 of what? :P
16:42 <P4> is there any armagetron 0.3.x RC4? :> with serial number support? :P
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16:46 <luke-jr> P4: RC4 is an cipher
17:03 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
17:05 <P4|away> i thought you're talking about some release candidate ;) ok cya for now
17:05 <P4|away> btw isn't it MD4? :P
17:08 <luke-jr> no
17:08 <luke-jr> RC4
17:08 <luke-jr> MD4 isn't a cipher, it's a hash
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20:35 <spidey> #svn
20:35 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
21:11 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 32 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), Norm's Place (10/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Fortress {100MBit} (9/16), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (9/16), WildCat (7/16), brschmogul (5/16), Wild West =Sumo= (5/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (4/12), Tigers (1 more message)
21:11 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> #coffee
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> #beer
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> #vangaynus
21:19 <spidey> lol
21:39 <qxdtz> xD
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> man, why can't all teachers put their syllabi on websites?
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> at least now I know which book to get for my speech class, but I still don't know about comp2 and chemistry
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21:52 * GodTodd just gets the one's the school tells PJ's they're gonna use ;)
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
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