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Log from 2007-08-14:
--- Day changed Tue Aug 14 2007
00:00 <Stewie-arma> what?
00:00 <|Sticky|> i thought you were talking about catholic communion
00:00 <Stewie-arma> we were
00:00 <Stewie-arma> or I was
00:00 <|Sticky|> oh right
00:00 <|Sticky|> then
00:00 <|Sticky|> ffs not another one
00:00 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:00 <Stewie-arma> another what?
00:01 <|Sticky|> zelot
00:01 <|Sticky|> zealot even
00:01 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:02 <luke-jr|work> mkzelda: God doesn't die
00:02 <luke-jr|work> living flesh doesn't degrade or rot
00:02 <|Sticky|> altho i would count as a zealot too, just an atheist zealot
00:02 <Stewie-arma> btw sticky Zealot: The term Zealot, in Hebrew kanai means one who is jealous on behalf of God. As a word in English it means anyone who is overly zealous. Specific uses in popular culture also exist.
00:03 <luke-jr|work> mkzelda: blood type AB if you're interested
00:03 <Stewie-arma> so what I've I'm enthusiastic about god?
00:03 <|Sticky|> also: "A fanatically committed person."
00:04 <mkzelda> if he didnt die, then why the need for a resurrection?
00:04 <Stewie-arma> luke did you see the thing like a couple years ago where the priest was doubting if it was the flesh and then it really did turn into his flesh and blood
00:04 <luke-jr|work> He did die
00:04 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
00:04 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: that was like 8th century
00:04 <Stewie-arma> *cough*humans always die*cough*
00:04 <luke-jr|work> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=zombie
00:04 <Stewie-arma> no there was another one
00:04 <mkzelda> he didnt die, he did die, but he didnt but he did
00:04 <mkzelda> i seee
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00:04 <|Sticky|> heh good to know catholic urban legends exist too
00:04 <luke-jr|work> zombie != 'came back from the dead'
00:05 <luke-jr|work> mkzelda: he did die, and then he rose
00:05 <luke-jr|work> ceasing to be dead
00:05 <mkzelda> but u said he didnt die
00:05 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: it's not a legend
00:05 <mkzelda> but he did
00:05 <mkzelda> but he didnt
00:05 <mkzelda> but he did
00:05 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: it's scientificially proven
00:05 <Stewie-arma> mkzelda humans always die
00:05 <Stewie-arma> but gods don't
00:05 <mkzelda> but they dont
00:05 <mkzelda> but they do
00:05 <Stewie-arma> he became human
00:05 <mkzelda> but they dont
00:05 <mkzelda> but they do
00:05 <mkzelda> whenever it helps my argument
00:05 <Stewie-arma> what do people not understand about he was human?
00:05 <mkzelda> but hes a god but hes human, but hes a god but hes human
00:06 <|Sticky|> scientificaly proven that when some guy in the 8th century eat some bread it turned into flesh?
00:06 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: yes
00:06 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:06 <|Sticky|> jokeing??
00:06 <luke-jr|work> because the flesh is still living today
00:06 <Stewie-arma> actually there was a more recent one and they did carbon testing on it
00:06 <mkzelda> whatever i need to say to benefit my arguement and make it impossible for anyone else in the conversation
00:06 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: it was the same one, still living
00:06 <mkzelda> lol, so you believe in carbon testing when convenient
00:07 <Stewie-arma> actually mkzelda technology is used to prove christs existance
00:07 <mkzelda> when the carbon testing believes what u need it to, its accurate, but when it disproves you, its inaccurate
00:07 <|Sticky|> yeah but christians refuse to accept carbon dating all the time.  see turing shrowd/dino bones
00:07 <luke-jr|work> carbon testing is vague, and only accurate within the timespan it was designed for
00:07 <mkzelda> yea, and ive had the same argument w/ luke about how u cant listen to that science
00:07 <mkzelda> then u use it when its convenient for you
00:07 <luke-jr|work> science is fine
00:07 <luke-jr|work> just not fiction that claims to be
00:07 <Stewie-arma> mkzelda I never said those didn't exist
00:07 <mkzelda> cause hes a god but hes not and hes dead but hes not and carbon dating is innaccurate but when its not
00:09 <Stewie-arma> *cough*Catholics aren't evangelicals*cough*
00:09 <|Sticky|> its like dawkins says, if science PROVED the existance of god tomorrow would they still hold to their line that science cant prove/disprove god, no they would be all over it
00:09 <|Sticky|> double standard
00:09 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: science can and does prove God
00:09 <mkzelda> lol
00:09 <Stewie-arma> well science can't prove the existance of god but I can prove the existance of god in human form
00:10 <|Sticky|> they will pull out science and pick and choose what suits them to justify there preconcieved conclusion
00:10 <mkzelda> roflmao
00:10 <|Sticky|> starting with the answer and working back is not science
00:10 <Stewie-arma> |Sticky|: what do politicians do? actually what does everyone in the world do?
00:10 <Stewie-arma> they pick and choose to what suits them to justify
00:11 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: can you be more specific with that question
00:11 <Stewie-arma> the whole world is corrupt
00:11 <Stewie-arma> that just proves human flaw
00:11 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: except the Church
00:11 <Stewie-arma> no all humans are corrupt
00:11 <luke-jr|work> because she is not of the world
00:11 <Stewie-arma> oh woops
00:11 <mkzelda> lol
00:11 <Stewie-arma> you meant the church church not the people running it
00:11 <luke-jr|work> right
00:12 <Stewie-arma> yeah, the people running the church are corrupt but the church isn't
00:12 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:12 <|Sticky|> politicians maby but scientists rarely actively choose to ignore results as it dose not fit with their belifs, they try to modify their belif to fit the facts
00:12 <luke-jr|work> though we have some pretty holy bishops today, even if sometimes cowardly
00:12 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: only real scientists
00:12 <mkzelda> only the ones that support our believe are real
00:12 <Stewie-arma> lol zelda
00:12 <Stewie-arma> you're just trying to put words in our mouths
00:13 <luke-jr|work> according to wikipedia, there is a higher % of scientists who believe in God than non-scientists who do
00:13 <mkzelda> everyone is a bunch of emo fakers
00:13 <mkzelda> the should cut themselves
00:13 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: LIES UTTER LIES
00:13 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: probably
00:13 <Stewie-arma> actually a large amount of scientists are Christian
00:13 <luke-jr|work> actually, it was regarding evolutionism specifically
00:13 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: again a very distorted fact
00:13 <Stewie-arma> fine a large amount of scientists are registered as christian
00:14 <luke-jr|work> an evolutionist is by definition not Christian
00:14 <Stewie-arma> how does that work/
00:14 <Stewie-arma> because all christian means is that you believe christ is your savior
00:14 <luke-jr|work> since evolution is heresy
00:14 <Stewie-arma> or you are Christ like
00:14 <luke-jr|work> no
00:14 <luke-jr|work> Christian means you follow Christ's teachings
00:14 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work is catholic++ if you belivein evo you are not christian
00:14 <luke-jr|work> and accept them all
00:14 <luke-jr|work> and serve Christ
00:15 <Stewie-arma> but where at all did christ say that the world did not evolve?
00:15 <luke-jr|work> when He created it
00:16 <|Sticky|> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/steve/ a fantastic take on the whole "lots of scientists believe in god/evolution" argument
00:16 <Stewie-arma> alright luke... there is proof all around you that says that almost everything has evolved and your going to turn your back on all of it?
00:17 <|Sticky|> proving there are more scientists called steve that do belive in evo than total scientists who do not
00:17 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: that's lies promulgated by the evolutionists
00:17 <luke-jr|work> in fact, the evidence demonstrates that evolutionism did not occur
00:18 <mkzelda> Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God.
00:18 <luke-jr|work> and could not have
00:18 <|Sticky|> so Stewie-arma are you a christian person that belives in evolution?
00:18 <Stewie-arma> yeah...
00:18 <|Sticky|> well done
00:18 <Stewie-arma> actually according to luke I'm not christian
00:19 <Stewie-arma> because I can not turn my head from the blatant truth that is right infront of me
00:19 <luke-jr|work> the world will mislead you if you let it
00:19 <|Sticky|> i almost can agree with your stand point Stewie-arma
00:19 <|Sticky|> do you oppose teaching creation in schools??
00:19 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: you have seen a dog change into a cat?
00:19 <luke-jr|work> if so, get your eyes checked ;)
00:19 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: ffs dont bring that tired argument out
00:19 <Stewie-arma> luke that's not evolution that's transfiguration
00:20 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: have you ever seen jesus walk on water?
00:20 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: evolutionism is one kind changing into another
00:20 <|Sticky|> if not why would you belive it?
00:20 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:20 <|Sticky|> if you havent seen it
00:20 <|Sticky|> if you havent seen it it cant be true
00:20 <Stewie-arma> because god tells us to sticky
00:21 <|Sticky|> if you havent seen it it cant be true
00:21 <Stewie-arma> Sticky then you're saying all of history isn't true
00:21 <Stewie-arma> except for what is happening right now
00:21 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: I'm not the one claiming I've seen evolution
00:21 <Stewie-arma> neither am I
00:21 <Stewie-arma> I'm claiming that there is tons of proof that evolution has happened
00:22  * |Sticky| is being sacastic about lukes have you seen a cat change argument
00:22 <luke-jr|work> there isn't
00:22 <luke-jr|work> there is no proof whatsoever
00:22 <luke-jr|work> and tons of proof that it didn't
00:22 <mkzelda> u can prove it in 3 days w/ bacteria
00:22 <luke-jr|work> nope
00:22 <mkzelda> yep
00:22 <luke-jr|work> the bacteria will become non-bacteria?
00:22 <|Sticky|> mkzelda: there were some issues with that experiment
00:23 <mkzelda> u can make it resistant to penicillen, it becomes a new strain
00:23 <mkzelda> im just sayin, if u dont want to wait thousands of years
00:23 <luke-jr|work> that's a minor change in the creature
00:23 <luke-jr|work> it does not become a new creature
00:23 <mkzelda> minor?
00:23 <luke-jr|work> it is still a bacteria
00:24 <Stewie-arma> evolution:development: a process in which something passes by degrees to a different stage
00:24 <mkzelda> and its still evolved to a resistent form
00:24 <|Sticky|> but mostly christians generaly turn a blind eye to statistical probability, the chances of life occuring are almost zero, however with billions of worlds to try ultimately it will hapen on one of them, just so happend that world was earth
00:24 <luke-jr|work> it built up resistance
00:24 <luke-jr|work> it didn't become a new type of creature
00:24 <Stewie-arma> luke evolution isn't it becoming a different type of creature
00:25 <Stewie-arma> it's that creature changing to defend itself from it's suroundings
00:25 <luke-jr|work> yes it is
00:25 <Stewie-arma> what your talking about is again, tranfiguration
00:25 <luke-jr|work> evolutionists teach that chemicals became bacteria that became animals and so on
00:26 <|Sticky|> yeah this is also the leap that christians make to try to confuse the argument, they try to claim mutations must be large and useful, not true
00:26 <mkzelda> magic is a much better explanation
00:26 <tramshed> evolution is real, get over it.
00:26 <Stewie-arma> mkzelda magic is yet again (according to the Catholic Church) claimed to be blasphemy
00:26 <luke-jr|work> it's not
00:27 <Stewie-arma> and impossible
00:27 <tramshed> heaping mounds of evidence for it
00:27 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: magic is neither blasphemy nor impossible
00:27 <tramshed> the jews practice magic
00:27 <luke-jr|work> witchcraft is demonic and evil
00:27 <|Sticky|> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdocQHsPCNM recommended viewing
00:28 <Stewie-arma> dev/null christians basically are jews with an add on, we just believe that our savior has already come.
00:28 <tramshed> somewhat
00:28 <tramshed> same god, different ideals
00:28 <luke-jr|work> nope
00:28 <luke-jr|work> better understanding maybe
00:29 <tramshed> I wouldnt say the christians have a better understanding
00:29 <tramshed> christians are afraid to even say thier gods name
00:29 <tramshed> and with all the splintering that happened there, if anything they are more confused than when they started
00:29 <luke-jr|work> no, we just treat it with respect
00:29 <|Sticky|> i actualy dont have too much problem with christians untill they insist the teaching of evolution in science class and as shown in america atheists are almost barred from high public office
00:29 <luke-jr|work> there is no splintering in the Christian Church
00:30 <tramshed> so you are telling me the catholics, babtists, mormons, protestents, etc etc all agree
00:30 <tramshed> baptists rather
00:30 <luke-jr|work> no
00:30 <tramshed> then it is splintered
00:30 <luke-jr|work> I'm telling you that Baptists, Mormons, Protest-ants are not Christian
00:30 <tramshed> they are all christians
00:30 <luke-jr|work> nope
00:30 <luke-jr|work> they are heretics
00:30 <tramshed> they believe in christ
00:30 <luke-jr|work> they deny the true Christ
00:31 <luke-jr|work> they believe in a demon claiming to be Him
00:31 <tramshed> I personally think all religion was just a method of social control
00:31 <|Sticky|> with luke-jr|work you have to concede his defenition of christian
00:31 <luke-jr|work> then you are wrong
00:31 <tramshed> which has become rather outmoded nowadays
00:31 <tramshed> Im fine with being wrong, but supply me some logic proving I am wrong
00:31 <tramshed> thats always been my issue with religion of any sort
00:31 <tramshed> it says im wrong but wont explain itself
00:32 <tramshed> Im fine with changing my mind if a reasonable enough argument was given
00:32 <|Sticky|> tramshed: its a way of justifying a world that we couldnt explain in a comforting way
00:32 <tramshed> but most arguments are at the basest level "Because God Said So"
00:32 <Stewie-arma> dev/null there is tons of proof to say that christ was human and on earth and that he was god
00:32 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: it's not a matter of your mind; it's a matter of reality
00:32 <tramshed> there is no proof that he was a god
00:32 <tramshed> reality doesnt say that the christian god is the right god
00:32 <Stewie-arma> let me find some news articles, if I can find them
00:33 <tramshed> for one, who is to say which religion is the right one
00:33 <tramshed> christianity is a relatively new religion
00:33 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: there is reasonable evidence that jesus existed as to his divinity that is hardly provable
00:33 <tramshed> who says the druids didnt have it right?
00:33 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: yes it does
00:33 <tramshed> how so?
00:33 <tramshed> give me proof
00:33 <tramshed> religion can never back up its claims
00:33 <luke-jr|work> will you bother reading it?
00:34 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: i will
00:34 <tramshed> not once has it ever definitively proven itself besides with self referencing rhetoric
00:34 <luke-jr|work> http://www.newadvent.org/summa/
00:34 <tramshed> any religion
00:35 <|Sticky|> dear lord i didnt count on this much
00:35 <luke-jr|work> lol
00:35 <luke-jr|work> see, it's worked already
00:35 <luke-jr|work> you admit the Lord's existence
00:35 <|Sticky|> heh filibuster the argument
00:36 <tramshed> so far all im reading is philosophy
00:36 <tramshed> which is all fine and dandy, but hardly proof
00:36 <luke-jr|work> logic
00:36 <tramshed> its not actual logic though
00:37 <tramshed> the problem with it is it is assuming that SOME type of god exists
00:37 <luke-jr|work> sure it is
00:37 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: no, that's hte first proof
00:37 <tramshed> its just trying to prove which one it is
00:37 <luke-jr|work> go in order
00:37 <tramshed> I did
00:37 <tramshed> and it didnt prove anything
00:37 <tramshed> it doesnt prove he exists, it just assumes he does
00:38 <tramshed> We cannot know what God is, but only what He is not. So to study Him, we study what He has not
00:38 <tramshed> thats the first line
00:38 <tramshed> already assuming that god exists
00:38 <|Sticky|> tramshed: where you reading this???
00:38 <tramshed> the link he posted
00:39 <luke-jr|work> http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1002.htm
00:39 <tramshed> that logic is akin to me assuming that all people should really be green, and then deducting the reasons why and the exact shade required by the natural universe
00:40 <tramshed> that chapter just says god exists because its obvious that he has to exist
00:40 <tramshed> doesnt say why
00:40 <luke-jr|work> read it
00:40 <tramshed> I am
00:40 <tramshed> and its still just self referencing and assuming god exists
00:40 <tramshed> did you read it?
00:41 <tramshed> To know that God exists in a general and confused way is implanted in us by nature, inasmuch as God is man's beatitude. For man naturally desires happiness, and what is naturally desired by man must be naturally known to him. This, however, is not to know absolutely that God exists; just as to know that someone is approaching is not the same as to know that Peter is approaching, even though it is Peter who is approaching; for many
00:41 <tramshed> there are who imagine that man's perfect good which is happiness, consists in riches, and others in pleasures, and others in something else.
00:41 <|Sticky|> isnt that the ontological argument: 1: people are green. 2: to not be green means you are not a person, therefore all people are green
00:41 <tramshed> they are saying its instinct to believe in god
00:42 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: he proves that it is self-evident first
00:42 <tramshed> No he doesnt
00:42 <tramshed> he states its self evident
00:42 <tramshed> he doesnt prove it
00:43 <tramshed> he tries to play on words to make it seem like he proves it, but it isnt actually proven anywhere in his statements
00:43 <Stewie-arma> I'm glad I started this, I'll be away for awhile (going to Catholic Youth Group) I'll check the logs hoping to see some action ;P
00:44 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: how old are you??
00:47 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: if you are quite young just never let yourself be alone with the preists, bad things happen
00:47 <|Sticky|> another fantastic example of the morality of the church
00:48 <luke-jr|work> nonsense
00:48 <Stewie-arma> btw I'm 15
00:48 <|Sticky|> i am glad to see at your age that there are catholics that believe in evolution, just dont let all those others feed you with the lies
00:48 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: you denying that the church coverd up child abuse??
00:48 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: well at least you have time to debrainwash yourself
00:48 <Stewie-arma> and btw it's only 2% of the priests that are doing these things (or that have been reported doing them)
00:49 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: it hasn't
00:49 <|Sticky|> 2%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:49 <|Sticky|> you think thats small??
00:49 <Stewie-arma> same percent as every other religion doing these things
00:49 <|Sticky|> WTF
00:49 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: I have yet to see a single one Catholic priest; the "priests" that do that are really queers and not even validly ordained
00:49 <Stewie-arma> actually same percent as pretty muc hevery religion
00:49 <|Sticky|> so 2% is acceptable?
00:49 <Stewie-arma> no it isn't sticky
00:50 <|Sticky|> and its also fine for the vatican to cover it up when its reported
00:50 <Stewie-arma> they don't cover it up, they hide it from the press, they don't deny them
00:50 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: the Vatican hasn't been Catholic in years since the Freemasons took over Rome
00:50 <|Sticky|> im shocked luke-jr|work denies the vatican coverd it up
00:51 <tramshed> all I have to say about christianity is this, did god put fossils there to throw us off his trail?
00:51 <|Sticky|> tramshed: again a bad argument to make
00:51 <|Sticky|> they are there to "test us"
00:51 <tramshed> but one that needs to be addressed
00:52 <mkzelda> [2007-08-13 18:53:59] <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: well at least you have time to debrainwash yourself
00:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:52 <mkzelda> lol
00:52 <tramshed> I would think the mere non-existant proof of his existance would be a pretty good test
00:52 <tramshed> but hey, im just a mortal
00:52 <tramshed> I didnt make people eat thier own poo
00:52 <tramshed> or threaten to cut a baby in half
00:52 <tramshed> or tell my followers to commit genocide
00:52 <|Sticky|> been reading the old testiment?
00:52 <tramshed> be cool if I could make those claims though
00:53 <mkzelda> man i love how i made a comment, left for 35 mins come back and its still going on
00:53 <tramshed> I AM YOUR IMMORTAL ASSHOLE!
00:53 <|Sticky|> dont forget moses inciting mass rape
00:53 <tramshed> anyways
00:53 <mkzelda> That was some awesome trolling
00:53 <tramshed> I was just given 1300 bucks to make myself a computer
00:53 <Stewie-arma> actually zelda it was dropped but I brought it back up
00:53 <tramshed> so ima disappear for a while
00:53 <mkzelda> what approach u takin tramshed?
00:53 <|Sticky|> from the north?
00:53 <tramshed> from the rear with no lube
00:54 <mkzelda> nice
00:54 <tramshed> im going for a nice overall system
00:54 <tramshed> server mainly
00:54 <|Sticky|> i built a bit of a beast for about $1100-$1200
00:54 <tramshed> but with a good desktop aspect to it
00:54 <tramshed> I did some surfing before, and I can make a damn fine system with1300
00:54 -!- Zacariaz [n=53dd8821@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:54 <mkzelda> yeah i built my machine new for $1250
00:54 <|Sticky|> depending on curency conversion
00:55 <Zacariaz> so, what is happening to the server?
00:55 <mkzelda> its getting dated now
00:55 <mkzelda> Sysinfo for 'fx-53': Linux 2.6.19-reiser4-r7 running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 at 2400 MHz (4823 bogomips), HD: 668/1209GB, RAM: 1682/2012MB, 97 proc's, 5.1d up
00:55 <|Sticky|> the q6600 is a bargin nowerdays
00:55 <|Sticky|> and trust me its FAST
00:56 <tramshed> im going with amd myself
00:56 <|Sticky|> which one
00:56 <Zacariaz> dont mean to intrude but why athlon?
00:56 <tramshed> 6000
00:56 <tramshed> Zacariaz, the price vs speed is the best deal
00:56 <Zacariaz> sor AMD
00:57 <tramshed> I know intel is top of the pile right now, but the price to get to the top is kinda rough
00:57 <mkzelda> geforce 7800gt, 2gb ram, 2x160gb raptors, 2x500gb, fx-53, asus a8n32-sli deluxe, a year or two ago
00:57 <mkzelda> for $1250
00:57 <tramshed> thats pretty similar to what im making
00:57 <tramshed> cept I gotta buy a case/monitor/etc too
00:57 <Zacariaz> k, id rather pay alittle more for something that does involve spontain combustion
00:57 <tramshed> because I have nothing
00:58 <tramshed> intels run hotter than pretty much anything in my experience
00:58 <tramshed> this thing hits over 70c compiling
00:58 <|Sticky|> yeah the 6000+ has far better price/performance than most core2duos
00:58 <mkzelda> yeah my p4s are the hottest computers ive ever owned
00:58 <mkzelda> heats a whole room
00:58 <Zacariaz> ill be right back with a link to a video
00:58 <tramshed> plus ive never had an amd give me kernel panics due to smp
00:58 <mkzelda> cool n quiet works well even in linux
00:58 <|Sticky|> core2duo e4300 has better price/performance
00:58 <tramshed> I could show you videos of intels exploding myself
00:59 <tramshed> the e4300 is nowhere near the performance of the 6000 though
00:59 <tramshed> i can get a 6000 for 160
00:59 <mkzelda> i try not to sound like a fanboi, like u said, i try to go for best price/performance
00:59 <|Sticky|> tramshed: true
00:59 <tramshed> Im not a fanboy, im just going with my choice right now
00:59 <mkzelda> if i had unlimited cash i'd be getting some intel by todays times
00:59 <tramshed> yeah
01:00 <tramshed> if I had the cash id buy intel right now myself
01:00 <tramshed> they are currently the best
01:00 <mkzelda> tho im anxious for amd's new approach of specialized computing
01:00 <tramshed> one thing I wont sway onthough is my ati/nvidia preference though
01:00 <|Sticky|> at the high end there is not too much between the opterons and xeons
01:00 <mkzelda> u prefer ati?
01:00 <tramshed> ati has disgusted me with thier consistently shitty drivers
01:00 <tramshed> hell no
01:00 <|Sticky|> opterons have far better memory access
01:00 <mkzelda> heh
01:00 <tramshed> nvidia > *
01:00 <mkzelda> same here, i wont leave nvidia either
01:00 <tramshed> opterons have pwned since the day they came out
01:01 <mkzelda> linux support is great
01:01 <mkzelda> ive owned enuf ati
01:01 <Zacariaz> pretty old, but shows my oppinion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7XosLKUJEE
01:01 <mkzelda> ive got 4 or 5 laying around
01:01 <mkzelda> its sad cause they had some fantastic hardware
01:01 <mkzelda> just cant fuckin support it
01:01 <mkzelda> asus is just as bad w/ their mobos
01:01 <|Sticky|> at work im getting a high end machine (as in $3-4k) and its a bit of a toss up between xeon and opteron
01:01 <mkzelda> make great hardware, terrible bios
01:02 <mkzelda> i'd go w/ a sun t-2000 if i had the funds
01:02 <|Sticky|> mkzelda: you are so right, my new mobo is asus, if you plug in the usb header the dvd drive turns off
01:02 <tramshed> haha
01:02 <mkzelda> hahaha
01:02 <tramshed> asus used to be good
01:02 <mkzelda> yep
01:02 <tramshed> whos the mobo kings nowadays
01:02 <mkzelda> they
01:02 <tramshed> Iremember when soyo pwned all
01:03 <|Sticky|> its cos of the jmicron stuff
01:03 <mkzelda> tehy're still pretty far ahead of the game w/ hardware, they just dont support long enuf
01:03 <mkzelda> they stop making new bios updates after 1 year tops
01:03 <mkzelda> and they dont offer the updates for older hardware after like 2 years
01:03 <mkzelda> and i emailed them one time and told them that it took more effort to remove the driver from their site than to just leave it
01:04 <|Sticky|> if you go with an intel board the intel mobos are rock solid
01:04 <mkzelda> and they responded that every product has a life and mine is too old and i need to buy new hardware
01:04 <mkzelda> yep, they just dont have a lot of tweaking potential
01:04 <Zacariaz> well, im off to see if ddl is up and running
01:05 <tramshed> I used to get epox for my cheapies before
01:05 <tramshed> they were pretty reliable mobos
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01:05 <mkzelda> i have an old 233mhz amd k6, and tho i cant think of hte brand of motherboard, i can STILL go to the manufacturer website and dl the bios updates
01:05 <mkzelda> hrm, thats one of the few mobo brands i had caps go bad in
01:05 <tramshed> nothing special in the performance dep. but lots of configuration abilities for overclocking and the likes
01:06 <mkzelda> they'd burn up, they smelled of *that smell*
01:06 <mkzelda> run for about 1 or 2 mins and u smell it
01:06 <tramshed> odd
01:06 <mkzelda> and then get reallllllly hot
01:06 <tramshed> never had that
01:06 <|Sticky|> considered a e6750, not far off in price/performance and has a bit more power
01:06 <tramshed> I have a friend who can attest to mine running for two weeks with the bios being shorted out with a beer bottle cap
01:06 <mkzelda> the reason i actually bought the mobo and ram combo i have
01:06 <tramshed> or the week it ran with the ram half hanging out
01:07 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: I deny the Church covered it up, not the anti-Christian Vatican
01:07 <mkzelda> was corsair and asus got in cahoots to build them specifically for each other
01:07 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: the fossils are demonstratably about 4000 years old
01:07 <tramshed> no they arnte
01:07 <mkzelda> so tho the standard on these sock 940 was ddr 4200, this ram is 4500
01:07 <tramshed> carbon dating puts them at way past that
01:07 <luke-jr|work> carbon dating is flawed
01:07 <mkzelda> see this is where he says u cant trust carbon dating
01:07 <tramshed> are you telling me the laws of physics are lying in just that instance
01:07 <luke-jr|work> built upon false premises
01:07 <mkzelda> tho earlier he was an advocate of it
01:07 <tramshed> no it isnt
01:08 <mkzelda> when it supported his argument
01:08 <tramshed> its built upon radiactive decay
01:08 <mkzelda> this is why you cant argue with him
01:08 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: it assumes radioactive decay is at a fixed rate
01:08 <mkzelda> he flip flops on everything, as its convenient
01:08 <tramshed> radioactive decay is a proven fact
01:08 <mkzelda> has cake and eats it to
01:08 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: i cant decide do i love you for hating things like the vatican and other "christians" or hate you for making their views look as harmless as barny the dinosaw
01:08 <tramshed> luke-jr|work, thats because it is
01:08 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: prove it
01:08 <|Sticky|> altho barny never existed
01:08 <tramshed> ever heard of an atomic clock?
01:08 <tramshed> or perhaps a nuclear reactor
01:09 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: yes, it hasn't existed even 100 years ago
01:09 <mkzelda> proof doesnt help those that believe in magic but call it something else
01:09 <tramshed> neither have computers
01:09 <tramshed> you telling me they are built upon false pretenses as well?
01:09 <tramshed> nuclear physics is very well understood
01:10 <|Sticky|> tramshed: their anti carbon dataing argument is that they dont know how much carbon the creature started out with
01:10 <tramshed> and much of its base assumptions have been proven repeatedly in particle accelerators
01:10 <tramshed> it doesnt matter how much
01:10 <|Sticky|> tramshed: yes it does
01:10 <tramshed> a single molecule or billions, it still decays at the same rate
01:10 <|Sticky|> tramshed: im not sure you understand carbon dating
01:11 <|Sticky|> you calculate how much carbo there was to start, then how much there is now, then figure out how long it would take to day that much
01:11 <|Sticky|> decay not day
01:11 <tramshed> I know, but the error margin is not that large
01:12 <tramshed> its not in the order of all this decayed in 40,000 years
01:12 <|Sticky|> but their argument is that you dont know the start point
01:12 <tramshed> you can guess close enough to get a ballpark range
01:12 <tramshed> which is why they are usually +- a few million years
01:12 <|Sticky|> exactly, and thats why you have a SMALL error
01:13 <tramshed> its not an error on the magnitude of hundreds of millions to billions of years
01:13 <mkzelda> 1 billion - 1 million
01:13 <|Sticky|> but they claim that the atmosphear was different, plants were different and so you cant know for sure
01:13 <mkzelda> 999 million is still more than 4000 years
01:13 <tramshed> rock wasnt different
01:14 <tramshed> and the rock we have fossils in has been reliably dated
01:14 <|Sticky|> thats what they claim
01:14 <tramshed> so unless the fossils somehow found thier way into solid bedrock within the last 40,000 years without any trace of how they did it, its still a flawed argument
01:14 <|Sticky|> but again that makes the assumption that the rock is also billions of years old so you are taking the baseline from an assumption that it is old
01:15 <tramshed> then you have the whole fact that they have decalcified to the point that there is no bone left
01:15 <|Sticky|> just to clarify i dont belive this crap i just read/listen to the opposing arguments so i understand their position
01:15 <tramshed> they are assuming every repeatedly proven of basic science is false, therefore thier answer is correct
01:16  * tramshed wanders off to make his computer
01:16 <mkzelda> so why is it that people can scrutinize science so closely yet when it comes to a book about a jewish zombie promising eternal life for eating his flesh if u accept him as your master so he can remove your evil u had nothing to do with cause some woman talked to a snake who convinced her to eat from a magical tree
01:16 <mkzelda> its so easy to believe
01:17 <tramshed> haha
01:17 <mkzelda> i just dont get that part
01:17 <tramshed> its not only those flavors of religions I disbelieve though
01:17 <tramshed> I dont find any of them to have truly believeable tenets
01:17 <mkzelda> i just think all reglions are a product of man and inherently flawed
01:17 <tramshed> Ive always looked at them as a form of ancient social control
01:18 <tramshed> wrote a paper for a guy once on it, he got an A
01:18 <mkzelda> a form of control for the masses to help limit choas
01:18 <|Sticky|> and also in your "one nation under god" some of the founding farthers thought the bible was full of crap
01:18 <tramshed> gave me 100 bucks for it too
01:18 <mkzelda> cause if nobody had answers to the questions that dont have answers, ppl would be a lot crazier
01:18 <|Sticky|> read Thomas Paine's(founding farther) age of reason
01:18 <mkzelda> just seems that those that are able to think for themselves do
01:19 <mkzelda> im not disproving anyone, i like to pick bits and pieces from all of them as a *guide* for my own life
01:20 <mkzelda> but im positive theres no undeniable proof for any of them
01:20 <mkzelda> or the answers would come easily
01:20 <mkzelda> and everyone would believe
01:20 <mkzelda> its the same concept as why we experience pain, to appreciate pleasure
01:20 <mkzelda> if it was undeniable there'd be no question
01:20 <|Sticky|> you dont need to disprove anything, lack of proof  is enough to not believe something
01:21 <mkzelda> and then, what purpose would believing in god serve if u already had proof there was one, your faith would be insincere
01:23 <|Sticky|> got to understand some of the mentality, the need to be told what to do and be guided.  Hence the argument that many make that they are not moral because they are intrinsicly good people, they are moral be cause they are told/forced to be
01:23 <mkzelda> i cant believe i trolled this 100 mins ago
01:24  * |Sticky| is an amature religion abuser
01:24 <|Sticky|> subscribe to the dawkins mailing list its great
01:26 <mkzelda> the origin of species was darwins racist way of saying blacks are less evolved
01:27 <mkzelda> im just trolling again, im out
01:27 <|Sticky|> riiiiiiggghhhhhhttttt
01:28 <mkzelda> i have a coworker who believes that wholeheartedly
01:28  * |Sticky| has a jesus was black t-shirt
01:28 <mkzelda> nice i have a Nubian Beauty shirt
01:28 <mkzelda> and im a white boy w/ an afro so its a good bonus
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02:07 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with http
02:07 <armabot> spidey: [22:38:15] <spidey> http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2221/12356258cl8.jpg  D:
02:11 <tramshed> and done
02:11 <tramshed> 1300 buckslater
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03:23 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxx2KcPWWZg
03:27 <xFlex> lol
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03:53 <Vanhayes> spidey: did you ever start a civ game
03:53 <spidey> no
03:56 <Vanhayes> where did luke go?
03:56 <spidey> to play with himself
03:57 <Vanhayes> heh civ, or just himself?
03:57 <spidey> just himself
04:00 <GodTodd> he probably went to pray for all of our heretical souls
04:00 <spidey> lol
04:00 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
04:00 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, GodTodd , vanhayes maybe? wanna finish that game from last night?
04:01 <Vanhayes> I doubt he would bother praying for any of us, he might be christian but he is still luke
04:01 <spidey> i need a excuse to do homework
04:01 <Vanhayes> im up for it
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> in a bit
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> the server's running with no turn timeout.  I wonder if that forced it to crank over a few turns
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'd kinda like to start a new game if vanhayes is going to play.  :)  Otherwise we're going to wind up conquering him!
04:13 <GodTodd> conquer me baby!
04:22 <spidey> actually
04:22 <spidey> hayes taking egypt would help my plans
04:22 <spidey> :D
04:23 <spidey> maybe
04:23 <spidey> i've got 2 types of AA guns, city walls, and coastal defense in every city
04:24 <spidey> what do you think my plans are for that game? :D
04:27 <spidey> my plans where, to declare war on luci and todd, then invade todd from the south with about 30MI and 25~ howitzers and some planes/missiles, and focus defense on my mainland to hold luci off :D
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04:27 <spidey> but i'm up for starting a new game now :p
04:28 <spidey> 200ish units in 16 cities, i would have held out forever D:
04:28 <spidey> atleast i think it was 200 O.o
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I saw your defenses :)
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> did you discover nuclear fission yet?
04:48  * Lucifer_arma did
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> I was about to offer an alliance, and if you didn't take it, I was going to invade you and forget about egypt
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> still, I'd rather start a new game.  That's a good game for us to fight it out, but I didn't really like my starting position at all
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> turned out to be a nice place, but it took forever.  Had you guys not given me techs, I'd have been fucked
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> and it took a long time to develop my american cities
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> I was considering building a ton of settlers in my newly conquered cities and mass settling the rest of north america with them
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> we might try with foodbox 7 and production modifier 7 and see how that speeds up the game
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> also lower starting techs
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> civs that start with explosives have a *huge* advantage over civs that don't
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> considering that you start with research at 0 and all
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> and we need to make sure the ais are suitably difficult :)
05:04 <spidey> heh
05:04 <spidey> hayes bailed on us :(
05:06 <spidey> i don't think you would have been able to take me :p
05:07 <spidey> the only thing that you could have hit me with that would do any *real* damage would be howitzers
05:07 <spidey> but i was about to have my cities surrounded with forted+forts MI
05:08 <spidey> haha
05:08 <spidey> that reminded me of something, way back when i was playing luke and his friend
05:09 <spidey> i forted fantastics on mountains with forts
05:09 <spidey> and he asked in irc "how do you beat a fanatic?"
05:09 <spidey> s/fantastics/fanatics
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> too bad hayes bailed
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> wait, he didn't bail, it says connection timed out
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I remember luke doing that
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, if it comes to a straight fight, I think you'd win
05:48 <spidey> maybe
05:48 <spidey> most i could do right now is run you out of offensive units
05:48 <spidey> i'm well dug in
05:48 <spidey> but i can only afford to run a offense against todd
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> we might try this game some more and see, but here's my thinking
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> when it comes to taking a turn, you tend to take faster turns than I do, which means I'll lose units faster in general
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> having not really warred against humans in this game, I haven't worked out how to handle the mechanics of it
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> I can look at my production and say "this should beat him", and come up with a winning strategy, but I don't know that I would execute the winning strategy quickly enough
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> it's the way every turn happens simultaneously.
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> can't count sneak attacks against luke as experience here, because the point is to take so many cities he can't put up a credible defense
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> and of course to knock out his capital and split him
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> my capital's not terribly well-protected, but I was considering moving it anyway
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> it could be well-protected, but there's a lot of naval access, and to really protect it I'd want several rings of forts around it with a bunch of MI in each one
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> and a bunch of auto-attack bombers in the city itself, and airfields and shit
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> pretty elaborate, but for an empire as big as mine is in this game, reasonable.  Splitting me would be disaster to me
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, no freeciv for me tonight after all, I'm too sleepy
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> and I've got to be up at 8am to take my youngest to the doctor for a shot
06:30 <mkzelda> rabies?
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06:47 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo cage
06:47 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: No online players.
06:47 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
06:47 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: No online players.
06:47 <DrJoeTron> well i sure killed those servers
06:50 <GodTodd> fucker
06:50 <DrJoeTron> yeah i know
06:51  * GodTodd gambled with his education and won :)
07:04 <spidey> lol
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10:24 <beta_usa> hi
10:26 <philippeqc> hello
10:27 <eddiefantastic> hi
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11:46 <beta_usa> Hm...
11:47 <beta_usa> I used the pigsty patch on the sources, i built my server, everything seems to be ok.
11:47 <beta_usa> I tried the map "CopyFromHereForCTF", and I have two forteress bases but no flag.
11:47 <beta_usa> I can't understand why.
11:48 <beta_usa> Plus the forteress doesn't spam and really act like forteress (they disapear if I go in the enemy forteress).
11:54 <eddiefantastic> beta_usa: did you copy the pig map and the pig dtd into the server repository?
11:55 <eddiefantastic> beta_usa: they are different to the client ones due to the hacks
11:56 <eddiefantastic> beta_usa: only the server know's what a flag is, the client doesn't need to
11:56 <beta_usa> I have a xml and a dtd in the Your_Mom directory (Your_Mom/clever and Your_Mom/dtd).
11:56 <beta_usa> i only patched my server actually.
11:56 <beta_usa> This should work, right ?
11:56  * beta_usa is confused
11:56 <eddiefantastic> and the does the map you point to contain a "falg" or not
11:57 <eddiefantastic> ?
11:57 <eddiefantastic> *flag
11:57 <beta_usa> Yes flags and forteress
11:57 <beta_usa> <Zone effect="flag">
11:57 <beta_usa> 2 flags and 2 bases, but i can only see the bases when playing.
11:58 <eddiefantastic> and you used the ctf settings right?
11:58 <beta_usa> I guess
11:59 <beta_usa> I used the pigsty-060720.patch btw.
11:59 <eddiefantastic> you need to INCLUDE pig_cfg.cfg
11:59 <eddiefantastic> or whatever it's called
11:59 <eddiefantastic> *pig_ctf.cfg
11:59 <beta_usa> Oh ok, i'll try this.
11:59 <beta_usa> Thank you eddiefantastic.
11:59 <eddiefantastic> np
12:00 <beta_usa> I have to eat now, i'll try after.
12:00  * beta_usa &
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13:18 <epsy> hi
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13:29 <P4> does anyone know why after running 'php serverlist.php' from the console i get 'Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in F:\www_root\arma\connect.php on line 8'?
13:50 <epsy> you maybe need to install mysql and the php plugins -_-
13:50 <epsy> P4,
13:51 <P4> i got it epsy
13:51 <P4> epsy: http://p4ziom.dyndns.tv/phpinfo.php
13:51 <epsy> your server is running wongblows ? wtf
13:51 <beta_usa> F:\www_root
13:52 <P4> yea... it's not related isuue :P
13:52 <epsy> but...wtf ????
13:53 <P4> dunno... maybe mysql module isn't loaded... but i use mysql properly in my CMSes
13:54 <tramshed> balls.
13:54 <epsy> cubes.
13:54 <tramshed> doctors.
13:56 <epsy> asylum.
13:57 <epsy> haha xD
13:57 <epsy> gtg
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14:54 <kidanger> #lastseen hawk
14:54 <armabot> kidanger: hudsonhawk has last been seen on Stormcrow's Tower 9 hours 28 minutes ago.
15:31 <tramshed> #lastseen pirate
15:31 <armabot> tramshed: Pirate has last been seen on G-Land 1 day 6 hours 45 minutes ago.
15:31 <tramshed> hmmm.
15:32 <tramshed> #lastseen grep
15:32 <armabot> tramshed: timed out
15:41  * kidanger part quelques minutes
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15:55 <tramshed> fuck all the servers with people are lame right now
15:56 <tramshed> cant find one with less than 10 rubber
15:56 <tramshed> its stupid, not even tron anymore
15:57 <beta_usa> wild forteress doesn't have more than 10 rubber
15:58 <tramshed> fortress isnt really tron though
15:58 <tramshed> I want some good ole lightcycle deathmatches
15:58 <tramshed> I dont wanna play king of the hill
15:58 <tramshed> or ping pong
15:59 <tramshed> its good that trons gettin added to, but what the hell is with all these high rubber fuckers
15:59 <tramshed> they afraid to learn how to not die
16:00 <beta_usa> If people love it, it's their choice, i don't think it's a good idea to blame them.
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17:26 <eddiefantastic> tramshed: I put up a server like you described, I miss them too. Nobody came.
17:31 <eddiefantastic> tramshed: That is nobody stayed for long, the fortress players went back to fortress, the high rubber players went back to their wall hugging
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17:42 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: I like to compare it to the big legos vs the little legos
17:48 <tramshed> haha
17:48 <tramshed> fuckin duplos
17:49 <tramshed> I think when I bring my server comes back its gonna be titled LOW RUBBER, NOT FOR YOU NOOBS
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> and my new favorite thing to do is bait these so-called rubber players
17:50 <Stewie-arma> bait them?
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> nothing is improved by rubber, certainly not sex nor arma!
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, point out that high rubber is like having childproof locks on all your cabinets
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. you only need it for children
17:51 <Stewie-arma> lol
17:51 <MrBougo> when i was like 5
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> you'll notice the average age of a "rubber" player is much lower than the average age of any player, and even lower than the average age of fort/other players
17:51 <MrBougo> i found out that duplos and legos could work together
17:52 <MrBougo> hehe Lucifer_arma
17:52 <Stewie-arma> lol that is true Lucifer_arma
17:52 <MrBougo> im 17, in what box would you put me
17:52 <Stewie-arma> MrBougo: how can they?
17:52 <Lucifer_arma> when I was like 32, I found out that 3 200MB avi files on a CD were better than transcoding them to mpg2 to make 6 cds
17:53 <MrBougo> Stewie-arma: you can put the big bricks on the lil bricks
17:53 <MrBougo> not the invesre
17:53 <MrBougo> hehe Lucifer_arma
17:53 <Stewie-arma> MrBougo: but then that would only make it so you could use them for the top...
17:53 <MrBougo> yup
17:53 <MrBougo> crazy, isnt it?
17:53 <Stewie-arma> not much use in that...
17:53 <Stewie-arma> lol
17:54 <MrBougo> you could build a house out of duplos on a lego board
17:54 <Stewie-arma> but yeah it is crazy
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> and while I could have fit 4 on a disc, the series was only six episodes long, so it was better to split it up evenly
17:54 <Stewie-arma> so 3 on each?
17:55 <Stewie-arma> how long was I away?
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> yes, 3 on each
17:56 <MrBougo> legos are awesome
17:56 <MrBougo> the guy who created them is a genius :p
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> not nearly as much of a genius as the guy who created transformers
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, the guy took the two toys that boys like most and combined them into one toy
17:57 <MrBougo> genius too
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> makes it so that kids will spend hours just transforming the things back and forth, a very quiet activity
17:57 <MrBougo> indeed
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> now I see why my parents were so happy to buy us transformers :)
17:57 <MrBougo> as long as they dont make them attack the tv
17:57 <Stewie-arma> lol I could never get them back -.-
17:57 <MrBougo> its indeed awesome
17:58 <MrBougo> and the awesomeness is proportionnal to the complexity of the transforming, isnt it?
17:59 <MrBougo> lego doesnt want us to say "legos"
17:59 <MrBougo> fuckers
17:59 <MrBougo> it's impossible!
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> fishes, mooses, mouses, sheeps, deers
18:00 <MrBougo> legos
18:00 <MrBougo> darwin was right
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> fishes, mooses, mouses, sheeps, deers, legos  <--- all of these words have something in common
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> they're all toys!
18:01 <MrBougo> lol
18:01 <MrBougo> especially fishes
18:01 <MrBougo> lets play fish-splat!
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> I watched the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy last night
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> the movie
18:02 <Stewie-arma> I have 3 more episodes to the end of the whole Rurouni Kenshin Series please stop yo hands!
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18:04 <tramshed> Lucifer_arma, ive got the complete radio show if you want it
18:04 <tramshed> the movie is only about a third of the whole thing
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> yes, absolutely :)
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> the movie went off in a direction that wasn't in the books or the tv series :)
18:04 <tramshed> http://www.sadena.com/hh/
18:04 <tramshed> good shit right there.
18:05 <tramshed> whole thing is around 12 hours long iirc
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> hah, the infocom game, too?
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> what OS is it for?
18:05 <tramshed> dunno
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'll look at it, chances are it's for apple IIe or C-64, and there's emulators for both out there
18:18 <tramshed> yeah
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18:21 <Lucifer_arma> ack, looks like MS-DOS
18:25  * Lucifer_arma wonders how easy it would be to run freedos in an emulator
18:25 <luke-jr|work> easy
18:33 <MrBougo> bye
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19:11 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/polygon/regular/wildcat3-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
19:14 <noob13> how would i go about removing a map from the resource? :O
19:26 <epsy> luke-jr|work,
19:26 <epsy> that's the only way
19:26 <epsy> noob13, any news from 7?
19:27 <Stewie-arma> done with the tv series ^_^
19:28 <MrBougo> lawl
19:29 <Stewie-arma> my left arrow key almost came off right now, but I just popped it back in lol
19:32 <epsy> what's the name of the file the wingblows recording shortcuts uses ?
19:33 <MrBougo> lol Stewie-arma
19:33 <MrBougo> makes me remember
19:33 <MrBougo> i had some bug one day
19:33 <MrBougo> looked like my left arrow was stuck
19:33 <MrBougo> but it wasnt
19:33 <MrBougo> and i was typing revesed then
19:35 <luke-jr|work> epsy: ???
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19:44 <epsy> luke-jr|work, <noob13> how would i go about removing a map from the resource? :O
19:48 <noob13> :P
19:49 <noob13> epsy: no havent heard from noob7_away.... which is good, he's supposed to be having a vacation
19:50 <noob13> so luke-jr|work, seems we uploaded some fucked maps :P
19:51 <noob13> each with "wildcat" should be removed if possible
19:51 <noob13> then we can upload the proper schmee
19:58 <luke-jr|work> epsy: impossible
19:58 <luke-jr|work> noob13: *
19:59 <luke-jr|work> the upload applet checks the XML headers to be sure it's correct before adding it
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20:02 <epsy> does it do a dtd check too ?
20:03 <epsy> (i mean does it checks if the document is valid compared if it's giveen dtd ?)
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20:14 <noob13> luke-jr|work: well the issue is that many ppl cant access the server when one of the maps is loaded
20:14 <noob13> would that suggest some randomness in the version
20:14 <noob13> or something or whatever... what the deal might be?
20:16 <luke-jr|work> epsy: yes
20:16 <luke-jr|work> noob13: can't access the server how?
20:17 <noob13> idk actually... for me it works fine. i'd guess they get an error when the map is being loaded
20:19 <luke-jr|work> did you used to have it outside the repository?
20:19 <luke-jr|work> maybe broken?
20:19 <MrBougo> brown?
20:19 <MrBougo> oh nvm
20:19 <MrBougo> i read brown :/
20:22 <noob13> ehm... according to one of them the error was "map not found in local memory"
20:22 <noob13> which seems rather odd does it not...
20:23 <luke-jr|work> yes
20:25 <noob13> would you have a look at the code to see if u spot a problem?
20:25 <noob13> if not, it must be something on their side....
20:25 <noob13> like... old-ass version of the game
20:25 <luke-jr|work> so how are these maps polygon/regular ? :)
20:26 <noob13> that i dont know...
20:26 <noob13> just following suit
20:27 <luke-jr|work> ...
20:27 <luke-jr|work> suit is to change the category flag when you modify the map
20:29 <noob13> well excuse my confusion
20:29  * noob13 is a noob
20:29 <noob13> all the more reason to remove those maps...
20:29 <luke-jr|work> maps are never removed
20:29 <noob13> i see...
20:29 <luke-jr|work> just stop using them
20:30 <luke-jr|work> and nobody will know they exist
20:30 <luke-jr|work> :p
20:30 <luke-jr|work> well, minus the resource browser
20:30 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: we should implement a method to hide stuff from the browser
20:32 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: .hidden file created with list of filenames
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20:40 <ghableska> #weather 50266
20:40 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 95.7°F (1:43 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 28.90 in 978.6 hPa (Falling).
20:40 <ghableska> #seen ghableska
20:40 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 9 seconds ago: <ghableska> #weather 50266
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20:45 <tramshed> #seen pirate
20:45 <armabot> tramshed: I have not seen pirate.
20:45 <tramshed> lies!
20:45 <tramshed> #lastseen pirate
20:45 <armabot> tramshed: timed out
20:46 <tramshed> hah
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> yeah,, it is around 12 hours
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 13*28.5
20:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 370.5
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 13*28.5/60
20:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 6.175
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> er
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26*28.5/60
20:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 12.35
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26*28.5/60 + (3 + 5)/60.0
20:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 12.4833333333
20:56 <MrBougo> lol
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> there, about 12 and a half hours long
20:56 <MrBougo> #math calc 0*0
20:56 <armabot> MrBougo: 0
20:56 <MrBougo> woot, i didnt know
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> unfortunately, since each episode is 28 minutes, I can only fit 2 on a CD
20:56 <tramshed> #math calc 100000/24/365
20:56 <armabot> tramshed: 11.4155251142
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> so it'll take 13 discs
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> I DON'T HAVE 13 DISCS!
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe.  I have a bunch of cd-rws I bought years ago that'll probably work
20:57  * Lucifer_arma goes to get them
21:06 <MrBougo> lol
21:06 <MrBougo> DIVX THEM OMG
21:06 <MrBougo> 160*90 pixels!
21:06 <tramshed> xvid > divx
21:06 <MrBougo> roxx!
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> divx a radio program?  wtf?
21:08 <MrBougo> oh
21:08 <MrBougo> COMPRESS IT
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> :)
21:09 <MrBougo> why /60 btw?
21:09 <MrBougo> a CD is 90 minites
21:09 <MrBougo> u*
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> minutes/hour
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> er, 1 hour/60 minutes
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> and no, a CD isn't 90 minutes
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's 80 :)
21:10 <MrBougo> ew
21:10 <MrBougo> thought it was 90
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> used to be 76
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> still is in some really old cd players
21:10 <MrBougo> crap
21:10 <MrBougo> my plans are ruined
21:10 <MrBougo> if its 80 i cant conquer the worlcd
21:10 <MrBougo> HAHA NICE TYPO
21:10 <MrBougo> world*
21:12 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: a CD is 73 to 99 minutes
21:12 <luke-jr|work> well, it could be even lower than that
21:12 <luke-jr|work> but 99 min is the max
21:13 <luke-jr|work> #echo Lucifer_arma: a CD can be up to 99 minutes
21:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: a CD can be up to 99 minutes
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21:14 <MrBougo> lol
21:14 <MrBougo> that was from luke-jr|work, Lucifer_arma
21:14 <MrBougo> btw luke-jr|work, are you sure?
21:14 <MrBougo> sounds crazy
21:15 <luke-jr|work> MrBougo: yes
21:15 <luke-jr|work> well
21:15 <luke-jr|work> I'm sure it's possible
21:15 <luke-jr|work> might not be standards-compliant tho
21:15 <MrBougo> try it :p
21:15 <MrBougo> oh i know
21:15 <MrBougo> you're trying to fill that hole in the CD
21:16 <luke-jr|work> the Red Book says 74 minute max
21:16 <MrBougo> lol
21:16 <MrBougo> Mao's Red Book?
21:16 <luke-jr|work> ...
21:17 <luke-jr|work> the Red Book that defines the audio CD format
21:17 <MrBougo> oh
21:19 <luke-jr|work> http://www.shop.com/870MB_99_Minute_52X_Silver_CD_R_Blank_Media_100_Piece_Pack_99min_-11781315-57055443-p!.shtml
21:19 <luke-jr|work> they're expensive :o
21:19 <luke-jr|work> (99 min CD-Rs)
21:20 <MrBougo> LOL :o
21:20 <MrBougo> expensive indeed
21:20 <MrBougo> ... the hell!
21:22 <tramshed> you can overburn 80s pretty close to 90 if they are good brands
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21:22 <MrBougo> crazy
21:22 <Legio> BOUGO!
21:23 <MrBougo> LEGIO
21:23 <MrBougo> NELLA
21:23 <epsy> legionarie!
21:23 <MrBougo> Legionella ella ella ay ay ay
21:23 <Legio> i bet you dont even remmember how we met lol
21:24 <Legio> *epsu has a big baguette*
21:24 <tramshed> I bet you werent wearing any pants
21:24 <epsy> MrBougo, tu sais coment like un record sous wingblows ?
21:24 <Legio> LOL!
21:24 <MrBougo> for sure epsy
21:24 <epsy> LOL! © Hoaxy and HoAX 2.0
21:24 <Legio> woo he speaks hip english/american!
21:25 <Legio> for show!
21:25 <epsy> MrBougo, tu peux expliquer à Legio ? =)
21:25 <MrBougo> epsy: "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "<path to the record>"
21:25  * epsy speaks mexican
21:25 <epsy> MrBougo, full path ?
21:25 <MrBougo> yup
21:25 <MrBougo> not relative
21:25 <MrBougo> abolute path :)
21:25 <epsy> rofl
21:25 <epsy> windws sux :D
21:25 <MrBougo> yup, thats windows
21:26 <Legio> windows babe! forever and a day!
21:26 <epsy> Legio, <win key> + R
21:26 <Legio> oO
21:26 <Legio> what that mean
21:26 <epsy> type that
21:26 <Legio> damn its a privet message thingy
21:26 <epsy> what's your user name ?
21:27 <MrBougo> epsy: what does that shortcut do?
21:27 <Legio> <win key + R
21:27 <Legio> LOLOLOLOL
21:27 <Legio> <win key> + R
21:27 <Legio> o dear
21:27 <Legio> o dear o dea
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21:27 <epsy> MrBougo, je crois c pour le truc « executer »
21:27 <MrBougo> rienavoir
21:27 <epsy> merde
21:27 <MrBougo> t'es pas un windowsien
21:27 <epsy> oui
21:27 <MrBougo> shut your trap, linuxian
21:27 <MrBougo> xD
21:27 <epsy> explain him your self!
21:27 <MrBougo> you cant beat the windows elite
21:28 <epsy> then explain him
21:28 <MrBougo> i cant, the windows help sucks
21:28 <MrBougo> no "man"
21:28 <epsy> rofl
21:28 <MrBougo> xD
21:28 <MrBougo> Legio: start menu
21:28 <MrBougo> hit "run"
21:28 <MrBougo> anhd copy paste that
21:28 <epsy> and go away VERY FAST from your computer
21:28 <MrBougo> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback ""
21:28 <MrBougo> then put the path to your .aarec between the last quotes
21:29 <MrBougo> oh crap, youre right epsy
21:29 <MrBougo> windows R
21:29 <epsy> you might explain him how we do get that path -_-
21:29 <MrBougo> didnt' notice it
21:29 <MrBougo> awwwwww
21:29  * epsy slaps MrBougo 
21:29 <MrBougo> Legio: right click the .aarec file
21:30 <MrBougo> properties
21:30  * epsy throws MrBougo on the rim to see if the wall rip bug has been fixed
21:30 <MrBougo> it isnt :D
21:30 <Legio> path thingy?
21:30 <epsy> yup
21:30 <Legio> god you all are genious
21:30 <Legio> insaine
21:30 <MrBougo> lol
21:30 <epsy> copy paste it between the quotes
21:30 <Legio> i seriously dont understand a ruddy thing
21:30 <Legio> now that i do
21:31 <MrBougo> copy the "location" thingy in the properties dialog
21:31 <MrBougo> put a \ after it
21:31 <Legio> wow!
21:31 <MrBougo> and put the .aarec's name after it
21:31 <MrBougo> damn that sucks for sure
21:31 <Legio> all i need was a \ lol
21:31 <epsy> (use tab to autocomplete ?)
21:31 <MrBougo> epsy: not in the "run" thingy
21:31 <MrBougo> only in dos
21:31 <epsy> roflmao
21:32 <MrBougo> it isnt case sensitive btw :p
21:32 <Legio> o dear
21:32 <Legio> it doesnt find it
21:32 <MrBougo> ew
21:32 <MrBougo> can you copy the command here?
21:32 <Legio> i have
21:33 <Legio> C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe
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21:33 <MrBougo> muh?
21:33 <epsy> wb
21:33 <MrBougo> thats not the full command
21:33 <Legio> \
21:33 <MrBougo> naah
21:33 <epsy> D
21:33 <Legio> ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec
21:33 <MrBougo> whats the path to your .aarec?
21:33 <MrBougo> is it?
21:33 <Legio> wee
21:33 <MrBougo> the full path?
21:34 <epsy> his desktop
21:34 <MrBougo> i dont know his UID
21:34 <Legio> C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop
21:34 <Legio> I LOVE WINDOWS!
21:34 <Legio> what a gay name michael is
21:34 <MrBougo> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:34 <epsy> C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:34 <epsy> lol
21:34 <MrBougo> pwned
21:35 <epsy> #kill MrBougo
21:35 <armabot> MrBougo will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by epsy
21:35 <MrBougo> mine is correct
21:35 <MrBougo> yours isnt
21:35 <Legio> what the hell is that?
21:35 <epsy> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:35 <MrBougo> the thing you have to paste in the "run" window
21:35 <Legio> repeating it jjust confuzees me more
21:35 <MrBougo> :(
21:35 <MrBougo> epsy, gtg :§(
21:35 <Legio> i knew that
21:35 <Legio> lmao
21:35 <epsy> eh
21:35 <Legio> I LOVE YOU BOUGO!
21:35 <Legio> remmember that
21:36 <Legio> and
21:36 <Legio> we met when you swore revenge against me
21:36 <Legio> after core-dumping to the extream
21:36 <MrBougo> lol
21:36 <Legio> thats how!
21:36 <Legio> it was like 1 am or summmin
21:36 <MrBougo> did we?
21:36 <Legio> yes
21:36 <MrBougo> nice way to meet :p
21:36 <epsy> * Legionarie has a thin and long spaghetti *
21:36 <Legio> you got pissed off lol
21:36 <Legio> so bad
21:37 <MrBougo> hehe
21:37 <Legio> it was hilerious
21:37 <MrBougo> did i get my revenge?
21:37 <Legio> hell no lol
21:37 <MrBougo> if i didnt, remind me to get it some day
21:37 <MrBougo> bye :p
21:37 <Legio> who'd get core dumped by you ;P
21:37 <MrBougo> myself!
21:37 <Legio> LMA!O
21:37 <MrBougo> so true.....
21:37 <MrBougo> bye
21:37 <Legio> beuno notte
21:37 <MrBougo> same2u
21:37 <Legio> =)
21:38 <Legio> salut
21:38 <MrBougo> sweet coredumping dreams
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21:38 <Legio> ahaha!
21:38 <Legio> epsy
21:38 <epsy> Legio,
21:38 <Legio> has
21:38 <Legio> a
21:38 <Legio> HUGE
21:38 <epsy> * Legionarie has a thin and long spaghetti *
21:38 <Legio> baguette
21:38 <epsy> :D
21:38 <Legio> xD
21:39 <Legio> bah doenst work epsy
21:39 <Legio> =(
21:39 <Legio> i go on msn i have 5 ppl to awnser ! lol
21:39 <epsy> lol
21:42 <Stewie-arma> grrr tremulous gets really annoying when your team is full of feeders
21:45 <epsy> indeed
21:45 <epsy> in arma too ;)
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> 74 minutes = 650MB
21:46 <Legio> epsy probs is the feeder
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> 80 minutes = 700MB
21:46 <Legio> wth? lucifer
21:46 <epsy> Legio, programs / accessories / command prompt
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> you can overburn and you can get a few extra minutes, but that's not guaranteed to work anywhere
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> hell, 80 minutes isn't guaranteed to work anywhere
21:47 <Legio> errrr....ok
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't mtter, the cd-rws I have are old enough that they're 74 minutes anyway
21:47 <epsy> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:47 <Legio> epsy i dont haav  a ruddy clue
21:47 <epsy> type that in
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> Legio: I guess you're not here often enough to notice this, but there are conversations going on all the time where it could be hours between responses
21:48 <Legio> i understand dont you worry
21:48 <Legio> i just dont know any of the commmands
21:48 <Legio> ANY!
21:48 <epsy> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:48 <epsy> just type this in
21:48 <epsy> well, copy paste it :P
21:49 <Legio> majic!
21:49 <epsy> with the quotes
21:49 <epsy> :D
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21:49 <Legio> what now?!?
21:49 <Legio> oO
21:49 <Legio> epsy magic
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21:49 <epsy> does it work ?
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21:50 <epsy> wb |Sticky|
21:52 <Stewie-arma> well I'm off to go get some in-n-out ^_^
21:52 <Stewie-arma> cyas
21:52 <|Sticky|> hay all
21:52 <epsy> cu
21:52 <epsy> hay
21:52 <Stewie-arma> bye sticky
21:53 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Vanhayes luke-jr|work GodTodd  civ tonight? D:
21:53  * epsy slaps spidey for pinging luke-jr|work 
21:53  * spidey slaps epsy just because he can
21:53  * epsy smiles at spidey 
21:54  * |Sticky| feels left out of the civ invite
21:54  * epsy is happy being out of it
21:54 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/smf/index.php?topic=1190.msg28713#msg28713
21:54 <spidey> D:
21:55 <Legio> epsy do i just go on game?
21:55 <Legio> now?
21:55 <epsy> ??
21:55 <epsy> did it work ?
21:56 <Legio> after doing the whole run and type in the location
21:56 <epsy> type enter ?
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21:58 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: likely
21:58 <Legio> errrrrr
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> y'all can invite yourselves if you want in a civ game, we've just invited everyone and had most people say no
21:58 <Legio> local game
21:58 <Legio> internet game
21:58 <Legio> etc...
21:58 <Legio> what?
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> so we just invite people who are likely to say yes
21:59 <epsy> rofl
21:59 <epsy> it's like you didn't entered the filename right
21:59 <Legio> civ?
21:59 <Legio> yes i have epsy
21:59 <Legio> exactly
21:59 <Legio> what is civ?
21:59 <epsy> Legio, civ is another game
21:59 <Legio> a collinder
21:59 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv
21:59 <Legio> oO
21:59 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/
21:59  * Legio doesnt understand and will shut up now
21:59 <epsy> #tea
22:00 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): andy, Bip, dBd|Nos, D®|error, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¥ FoFo
22:00 <epsy> ofofo
22:00 <epsy> Legio, so ?
22:00 <Legio> urgh im fed up i know nothing compared to you guys
22:00 <Legio> i have went on game
22:00 <epsy> ?
22:00 <Legio> it gives me the same options as if i started arma up normally
22:01 <epsy> the record is playing right ?
22:01 <epsy> that looks like you gave a wrong filename
22:01 <Legio> local, internet, network, exit
22:01 <Legio>  i couldnt of
22:01 <epsy> quit it
22:02 <epsy> hit up arrow in the console
22:02 <Legio> why is god so contemt in making every attempt i do to succeed a failure!!!
22:02 <Legio> WHY!
22:02 <epsy> then check the path to the recording
22:02 <Legio> *contempt
22:03 <epsy> .ping
22:03 <Legio> i have
22:03 <Legio> it all makes sence
22:03 <Legio> urgh epsy i have tried
22:03 <Legio> i am tired
22:03 <|Sticky|> ffs its been so long why cant beryl sort out the window decoration already
22:03 <Legio> *epsy has a huge baguette
22:04 <epsy> well, copy paste here the command you used
22:04 <epsy> * Legionarie has a thin and long spaghetti *
22:04 <Legio> i have
22:04 <Legio> THIN!?
22:04 <Legio> what!
22:04 <Legio> lol
22:04 <epsy> copy paste it TO here
22:05 <epsy> :D
22:05 <Legio> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
22:05 <Legio> walla
22:05  * GodTodd might be interested in a freeciv game....but i can't play til around 8pm :/
22:05 <Legio> or is it valla
22:05 <Legio> wth is freeciv!?
22:05 <Legio> i like games!
22:05 <Legio> i good at some believe it or not!
22:06 <epsy> Legio, rename that fucking file to something shorter
22:06 <Legio> how?
22:06 <Legio> its what you said to re name the file
22:07 <Legio> omg im gona cry
22:07 <epsy> try to rename it to something shorter
22:07 <Legio> but its the name you told me to rename it to
22:07 <Legio> urgh forget it epsy
22:08 <epsy> nvm about what i told you to do before
22:08 <epsy> just rename it to seomthing shorter
22:08 <Legio> 2/rename the aarec file to ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec
22:08 <epsy> nvm about that -_-
22:08 <epsy> just rename it to seomthing shorter
22:10 <Legio> Arma.aarec
22:10 <epsy> ok
22:10 <Legio> oko?
22:10 <epsy> oko
22:10 <Legio> =)
22:11 <epsy> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\Arma.aarec"
22:11 <epsy> if this doesn't work -_-
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22:17 <Legio> im gna cry!
22:17 <Legio> ahaha doesnt work
22:17 <Legio> actully doesnt
22:17 <Legio> windows FTW!
22:18 <epsy> is there someone here who have a clue about wingblows ?
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, my wife's cd player won't play cd-rws anyway, so I'll just burn the rest as a data disc instead :/
22:19 <Legio> dont worry epsy
22:20 <|Sticky|> epsy: what you doing in windows??
22:20 <Legio> forget it
22:20 <luke-jr|work> spidey: ok
22:20 <luke-jr|work> spidey: if I have internet
22:20 <Legio>   i thank you for the time you have devoted to the issue though
22:20 <Legio> but give it a rest, its going nowhere
22:20 <epsy> |Sticky|, not me, legio needs help playing a record back
22:20 <Legio> epsy, dont worry!
22:21  * epsy has worries
22:21 <epsy> :D
22:22 <Legio> =)
22:22 <Legio> wait
22:22 <Legio> can you explain 1 thing
22:22 <Legio> wth is civ?
22:23 <epsy> ppl mastering game or smth
22:24 <Legio> ah
22:24 <Legio> what is the game, you know?
22:25 <Legio> tell me how do you speak "privetly with some1 ? opening a window
22:25 <Legio> msn is so much easier
22:26 <Legio> haha real name " the epsy"
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22:29 <Legio> oly jackanory
22:29 <Legio> *holy
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22:35 <tramshed> yeah
22:35 <tramshed> lets ban him
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22:45 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr|work guru3 wrtlprnft
22:45 <spidey> ping
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22:46 <spidey> ty :D
22:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
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22:47 <guru3> spidey: what?
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, why don't the freedos people provide a qemu image?
22:48 <spidey> nvm Lucifer_arma got it :D
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22:52 <luke-jr|work> spidey:
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23:56 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:56 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 102.6°F (5:01 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Falling).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Wednesday...
23:57 <GodTodd> good...temp is dropping
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23:58 <GodTodd> anyone here chinese?

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