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01:00 <epsy> omgnoobplzdienstfuthx2u
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01:11 <epsy> |Sticky|, really ? xD
01:31 <epsy> PING google.com ( 56(84) bytes of data.
01:31 <epsy> 64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com ( icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=139 ms
01:31 <epsy> 64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com ( icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=133 ms
01:31 <epsy> 64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com ( icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=133 ms
01:31 <epsy> 64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com ( icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=150 ms
01:31 <epsy> --- google.com ping statistics ---
01:31 <epsy> 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3026ms
01:31 <epsy> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 133.546/139.346/150.267/6.768 ms
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02:25 <Stewie-Arma> so what's this about h2h making a "hacked" version of arma?
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> boy are you a chapter behind or what?
02:34 <Stewie-Arma> I am a chapter behind
02:34 <Stewie-Arma> or did you miss that?
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:35 <Stewie-Arma> I'm only on chapter 12
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, we don't actually know what they did, because Code Hunter (hopes he finds this with google) changed his story, always to make himself look like the victim
02:35 <Stewie-Arma> haha yeah he does, him and his brother (nightmare) are always sketchy
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, first they said they made a custom build of arma that randomly changed your color every round
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> they put it up on their site with a notice saying "this download copyright blah by blah, if you tell people about it, you promise to send them here to get it"
02:36 <Stewie-Arma> lolz
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> which, of course, infringes on some copyrights and violates the GPL
02:37 <Stewie-Arma> did z-man threaten to sue?
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> so we chewed at him, and he fixed the notice, but didn't give up the source still
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> and at that point he changed his story to "I just found this somewhere and thought people would like it"
02:37 <Stewie-Arma> lol
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> I think he pulled the download eventually because he didn't have the source
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> he was posing as a programmer again
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> nobody threatened to sue, we just bitched loudly.  I put a notice on the wiki for a little while about it.
02:38 <Stewie-Arma> awww
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> there's a forum thread that has most of the discussion if you want to dig it up
02:38 <Stewie-Arma> was it in general?
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17751
02:48 <Stewie-Arma> he still didn't give the binary...
02:50 <Stewie-Arma> but still many lulz to him for trying to act as a programmer.
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> he gave the binary, but removed it.  If you want to see it, it's attached to one of my posts
02:50 <Stewie-Arma> orly??? I'll check again
02:51 <Stewie-Arma> oh 3rd reply lol how did I miss that
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02:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh, hey that's the one where I got bitchy with him :)
02:55 <Stewie-Arma> Lucifer props on the: "that's just more of his 10 PRINT "Hello, World!" I'm a programmer mentality." line
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> but in the notice on the wiki, I put something to the effect of "they haven't given us the source, so they may have a keylogger or some other thing"
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh, thanks
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> gotta go now, going home
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
02:55 <Stewie-Arma> yeah wrtl put that warning on MBC forums too
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03:01  * digitx is away (bye)
03:15 <P4> #lastseen subli
03:15 <armabot> P4: SuBlImInAl.FreQ has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 1 minute ago.
03:23 <Vanhayes> So did a freeciv game get started or no?
03:23 <Vanhayes> and if no does anyone want to start one?
03:23 <Stewie-Arma> I haven't gotten to used to the difference between freeciv and civ II
03:25 <Vanhayes> never played civ 2, have had freeciv for almost three years now, and somehow civ 3 randomly got onto this computer half a year ago or so
03:25 <Stewie-Arma> lol
03:25 <Stewie-Arma> does anyone else use your computer?
03:26 <Vanhayes> ya, this is the "family" one
03:26 <Vanhayes> im usually the only one that uses it though, since my sister got a lappy
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04:04  * GodTodd has 3 computers that only he uses.
04:55 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: I'm playing one
04:55 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: pwning Novice AI
04:55 <luke-jr> x5
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04:56 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: but too late to start a game now
04:56 <Vanhayes> 5 novice ai isnt that hard
04:56 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: you're welcome to take over one
04:56 <Vanhayes> ya, we should get one going sometime soon though
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04:57 <Vanhayes> I want to get  at least one more big game of civ before I head out west
04:57 <luke-jr> ?
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh, monday's not looking good from a certain point of view
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here able to play freeciv during the day?
04:58 <luke-jr> like when?
04:58 <Vanhayes> depends on the day
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> any day, my wife works during the day, so I have to babysit
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> meaning I can't play all night at all, and most nights it would be a bad idea
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> tonight doubly so, but I may be able to play tomorrow night
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> I'm probably not going to work next week, and if I do, it'll be actual active work for a couple of hours a pop
05:00 <luke-jr> tomorrow evening works for me
05:00 <Vanhayes> depends on the time of day too, for me, most nights I work till 9 here so I'm not sure when that is there
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> eugenics isn't likely to be playable for awhile yet, so I'm willing to grab some freeciv during the intercession, but that's it!
05:00 <luke-jr> next week evenings ideal
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> I'm in CDT
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> right now it's 10:08pm
05:00 <Vanhayes> ah ok, 2 hours behinf me
05:00 <Vanhayes> behind*
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> I get out of bed around 9am, and would have to be able to stop from time to time to feed my kids
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> my kids are probably too young to get them to play freeciv with me
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> even though I have enough computers running now to have 2 more people in my house play, it'll be a few years before they're ready :)
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully eugenics will be ready before my kids are ready for it
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I'd have to cut off around 2pm at the latest
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> 2-3 hour shots are probably best for me
05:02 <luke-jr> eck
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> and if luke's playing, and I'm playing, then I'm hosting :)
05:03 <Vanhayes> hmm, i work mornings wendsdays, so that'd be the best for your times, for me
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> I could probably play a couple of hours tonight, but I'd have to stop for sure no later than 1am my time
05:03 <Vanhayes> I usually get off around 12 or 1 here so thats either 10 or 11 there
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> at the rate we start a game, that means we'd have an hour to play
05:03 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: feel free, I'm not setup to host here
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> I have to do AFL brackets right now, before I do anything else
05:04 <Vanhayes> spidey: GodTodd up for a little freeciv tonight?
05:04 <Vanhayes> Id be willing to at least start a game tonight
05:05 <Vanhayes> it would save an hour of set-up  later on
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> that's true
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> see what you can come up with, and remember I'm ignoring luke, so if he wants to play, I won't be able to see :)
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'll do the afl brackets real quick, then get freeciv built on my server
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> v2.1 ok with everyone?  The client crashes on me a lot, don't know about the server
05:06 <Vanhayes> hmm i think i have the lastest, not sure
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> I can do an svn checkout for the server if anybody knows if it's reliable
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> the 2.1 betas have a lot of important improvements that aren't in 2.0, which is good
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> but they're betas
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> and if the server crashes, the savegames usually can't be used because they'll just make it crash again
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> but it's a risk I'm willing to take :)
05:07 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: if we're starting a game, let me know
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> especially if someone's run the svn version recently and knows it to be more stable than the beta
05:07 <luke-jr> or someone else via IM would be best
05:07 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: ok, ill yell in here if we start tonight
05:07 <luke-jr> svn rev 12692 works decent
05:08 <luke-jr> I might not see in IRC
05:08 <Vanhayes> <luke-jr> svn rev 12692 works decent
05:08 <Vanhayes> ^ for Lucifer_arma
05:09 <GodTodd> not sure if 2.1 works on my machine
05:09 <GodTodd> i should try it
05:09 <GodTodd> tho, i'm not sure i'd want to play with luke anyways ;)
05:09  * luke-jr notes 12692 is from Feb
05:10 <Vanhayes> there is the beta 4 from june I think
05:11 <luke-jr> so I'll need to svn up
05:13 <GodTodd> anyone have the freeciv svn handy?
05:15 <luke-jr> only if you'll play with me :p
05:15 <luke-jr> ... not like that
05:15  * tramshed plays with luke-jr 
05:15 <GodTodd> fine, i'll find it myself
05:15  * tramshed does it like that too.
05:16 <luke-jr> svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1
05:34 <GodTodd> yeah...that one didn't work
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> anybody from either |x| or KoD here?
05:36 <Vanhayes> sort of
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> sort of?
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> you're from KoD?
05:37 <Vanhayes> technicly im in KOD but ive never played a match
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> then you're not really in KoD ;)
05:37 <Vanhayes> ya
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll flip a coin
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> heads, KoD gets a bye, tails |x| gets a bye
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> #coin
05:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: heads
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> there we go, it's official :)
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> and witnessed
05:38 <Vanhayes> oh ya, meant to post in one of those afl threads about having the day a game is on rotated
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> AFL CHATLOG COINTOSS
05:38 <Vanhayes> #help coin
05:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: (coin takes no arguments) -- Flips a coin and returns the result.
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> heh, that was the original plan, but most people objected and wanted it on Sunday and cleared Sundays so AFL could run
05:38 <Vanhayes> ok, good, that fake on isnt there anymore
05:38  * Vanhayes works every sunday
05:39 <Vanhayes> I suppose it is better for the majority of people tho
05:39 <Vanhayes> #list alias
05:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: monologue, roulette, \:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, hell, hello, hey, (2 more messages)
05:40 <Vanhayes> #more
05:40 <Vanhayes> #more
05:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, piong, plano, poing, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, (1 more message)
05:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: r‭oulette, sd, serverdetails, serverinfo, slap, speed, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, tst4, tst5, tstservers, tyskie, uname, unlock, ur, w, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wild, wp, ww, ¡¡¡, and ‭
05:40 <Vanhayes> #uname
05:40 <Vanhayes> #help uname
05:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no command "uname".
05:40 <Vanhayes> # uname
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> does mediawiki take raw html tables?
05:48 <luke-jr> #coin
05:48 <armabot> luke-jr: heads
05:48 <luke-jr> #coin
05:48 <armabot> luke-jr: heads
05:48 <luke-jr> #coin
05:48 <armabot> luke-jr: tails
05:48 <luke-jr> it prefers heads
05:49 <GodTodd> you can't possibly know that with a 3 flip sample
05:52 <luke-jr> :p
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: heads
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: heads
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: heads
05:54 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
05:54 <Vanhayes> seems pretty even
05:54 <Vanhayes> anyways, night
05:54 <Vanhayes> #night
05:54 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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05:54 <GodTodd> yeah...but we can take it on "faith" that it prefers heads, i suppose...:/
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> vanhayes is leaving?  no hour of setup time?
05:56  * Lucifer_arma just finished the AFL brackets
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I knew the best way to kill a freeciv game tonight was to say "find some players while I do the afl brackets"
06:02 <luke-jr> #echo luke is playing now
06:02 <armabot> luke is playing now
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab, gonna grab a smoke while I"m waiting for this svn co to complete
06:05 <GodTodd> make sure you grab the *un*lit end :)
06:07 <GodTodd> #plano
06:07 <armabot> The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 97.3°F (3:05 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Falling).
06:07 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:07 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
06:07 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 84.0°F (11:00 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect Friday afternoon...
06:08 <GodTodd> #alias remove plano
06:08 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
06:08 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
06:08 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 80.6°F (10:52 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising).  Severe Thunderstorm Watch 578 in effect until 5 am CDT Friday...
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> #weather my ass
06:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
06:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 79.2°F (11:10 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising).
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> man, this checkout is taking forever
06:09 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma's got a brushy crack
06:09 <GodTodd> er creek ;)
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> true both times, but I'm sure you already knew that
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> is there a configure flag to tell freeciv to only build the server?
06:10 <GodTodd> dunno
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> there better be, my server doesn't have any gui stuff anymore :)
06:10  * Lucifer_arma feels almost like a Real Man for that, except that it's ubuntu
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> hard to feel manly over a name like ubuntu
06:10 <GodTodd> haha
06:11 <GodTodd> especially when the release is called feisty fawn :)
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I think I got hit on today
06:12 <GodTodd> what's his name?
06:12 <GodTodd> :D
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> which is a little weird.  Some of the older students have flirted, but this was a pretty viable pass
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> I hate autogen scripts that run configure when they're done
06:13 <GodTodd> i just finished building
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> man, the checkout took fucking forever
06:14 <GodTodd> yeah it did
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> this was one of those rare passes where you kinda wish you could've responded :/
06:14 <GodTodd> then i had a chukc that borfed it so i had to restart it
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> library chick, masters degree in astronomy.  I was outside doing some adjustments on the telescope so it could be used this fall for astronomy
06:14 <GodTodd> chunk*
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> she gave me her card, and was pretty flirty, but her giving me her card was on the pretense of "I like all the physics and astronomy people to know how to contact me"
06:16 <GodTodd> heh
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> because she's the reference librarian for physics and astronomy.  So it was not only a viable pass, but could be explained away as simple introducing herself to someone in physics
06:16 <GodTodd> has your wife found out yet?
06:16 <GodTodd> ;)
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> I told her about it.  :)  It's curious because it's one of those situations where you leave wondering which interpretation you have of the conversation is correct
06:17 <GodTodd> yeah, chicks are good at that
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  :/
06:17 <GodTodd> and we dudes really really suck at choosing the right interpretation
06:17 <GodTodd> heh
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> I had a girl last spring offer me concert tickets, and I thought she was making a pass, so I told her my wife and I probably couldn't get a babysitter on such notice
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> then she offered to babysit :/
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> she really did want to dump her concert tickets, heh
06:18 <GodTodd> what concert?
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> some local metal band
06:18 <GodTodd> ah
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> big enough to sell tickets :)
06:19 <GodTodd> being in austin, local means they're probably pretty good ;)
06:19 <GodTodd> lot of new bands coming out of this area too
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> DFW has more metal than Austin
06:20 <GodTodd> yeah
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> austin doesn't have a lot of metal, unless you count the emo crap that comes out of here
06:20 <GodTodd> some of it's not too bad either :)
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> but I always thought emo couldn't be metal, by definition
06:20 <GodTodd> isn't SXSW there?
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> I had a guy in DFW try to talk me into moving up there so I could join his band
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, SxSW is here
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> march sometime, iirc
06:21 <GodTodd> i should make that one of these years
06:21 <GodTodd> heh
06:21 <GodTodd> you remember the name of that band?
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't, sorry
06:21 <GodTodd> np :)
06:21 <GodTodd> was just curious
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> I remember the girl, though.  She was hot, if you like trashy-looking chunky girls (which I do)
06:21 <luke-jr> ...
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> blond with black bangs
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> lip ring
06:22 <GodTodd> basically...a metal chick :)
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> yep :)
06:22  * Lucifer_arma thought his wife said she was "metal", but it turned out she had a cold.
06:23 <GodTodd> haha
06:23 <GodTodd> then there's luke-jr and his ricky martin man-crush...
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv port changed to 5556, right?
06:23 <GodTodd> not sure
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> you load a scenario as a saved game, right?
06:25 <GodTodd> i think so
06:25 <GodTodd> er...wait...
06:25 <GodTodd> i have 3 options on the client...new, scenario, and saved
06:27  * GodTodd hates having a weekend of waiting for his grade. :/
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> can't connect to the server with beta4
06:27 <luke-jr> ...
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> ok, doing an svn switch to the 2.1 branch
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> this might take awhile
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> why are gna's servers so fucking slow?
06:31 <GodTodd> dunno...does luke-jr host them?
06:31 <GodTodd> :D
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> must be the reason
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> probably a good thing vanhayes burned off
06:32 <GodTodd> yeah...those canadians need all the beauty sleep they can get ;)
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> I was just thinking it might be midnight before I have anything playable running
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> hell, it might be midnight before this svn switch is done
06:34 <GodTodd> heh
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know how to give bind hostnames that are only good on the local network?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> that's the last step I need to finish getting dns working locally the way I've wanted it to work for some time
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> here I go again on my oooowwwnnnnn
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> going down the only road I've never known!
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> like a smurfboy I was born to walk in blue
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> and I've made up my mind
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> Smurfette's just a waste of time
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'm just another heart in need of smurfers
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> Waiting on smurf's sweet charity
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> And I'm gonna smurf on, for the rest of my smurfs
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> 'cause I know what it means
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> to walk along the lonely street of smurfs
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, it's broke
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll svn co a-fucking-gain
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> fuck this, I'm going to put it on automatic
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> #monologue
06:51 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Your current monologue is at least 17 lines long.
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07:08 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
07:09  * Lucifer_arma has a 2.1 freeciv server running at www.davefancella.com port 5556
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's a 2.1 server
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> you guys are built from the trunk, aren't you?
07:10 <GodTodd> i am
07:10 <GodTodd> and it rejected me telling me an upgrade might help
07:10 <GodTodd> :/
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but it's actually a downgrade
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> I built from the 2.1 branch so windows users could connect :)
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> you have to svn switch
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> then rebuild
07:11 <GodTodd> just type svn switch?
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> no, need a path
07:11  * Lucifer_arma thinks
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I can get it
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> svn switch svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> then you have to autogen.sh/configure/make
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> svn switch svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1 && ./autogen.sh && make
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> do it all at once :)
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't want to wait for the svn switch, you could just download the beta4 tarball
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> if the client crashes, you can always reconnect
07:13 <GodTodd> svn: 'svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1'
07:13 <GodTodd> is not the same repository as
07:13 <GodTodd> 'http://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv'
07:13 <Stewie-Arma> stupid freeciv -.-
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> change the svn to http and it should work
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> er, yeah, try that first
07:14 <GodTodd> '.' is not a working copy
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> pwd
07:14 <GodTodd> ?
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> type "pwd" and paste the output here
07:15 <GodTodd>  /home/todd
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> you need to do svn switch inside the freeciv checkout
07:16 <GodTodd> k
07:16 <GodTodd> checking out
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> want to give a nation preference and I'll start you with an ai, or would you prefer me to wait?
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
07:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [06:31:55] <luke-jr> ..., [06:26:24] <luke-jr> ..., [06:07:25] <luke-jr> #echo luke is playing now, [05:57:26] <luke-jr> :p, [05:52:53] <luke-jr> it prefers heads, [05:52:48] <luke-jr> #coin, [05:52:46] <luke-jr> #coin, [05:52:43] <luke-jr> #coin, [05:20:36] <luke-jr> svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1, [05:19:55] <luke-jr> ... not like that, [05:19:43] <luke-jr> only if you'll (19 more messages)
07:21 <Stewie-Arma> is there a list of commands for armabot somewhere?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> yes
07:22 <Stewie-Arma> does it also describe what each command does?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> you have another question?
07:22 <Stewie-Arma> I just asked it
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> oh fuck it, I'll just show you instead of teasing you :)
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> #list
07:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> #list Praise
07:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, change, get, praise, remove, search, and stats
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> #help add
07:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: That command exists in the Alias, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> #help Praise add
07:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (praise add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the praise database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> got it?
07:23 <Stewie-Arma> yeah pretty much
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> if you're registered with nickserv, you can also /msg armabot
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> and she'll /msg back to you
07:24 <Stewie-Arma> aww
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> so for really long communications with her that nobody else is interested in, you should do it privately
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> unless nobody's here, in which case we don't care :)
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> but it's very rude when people are talking to snag armabot and start doing a bunch of shit that nobody cares about
07:25 <GodTodd> #weather 74023
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Cushing, Oklahoma is 78.8°F (12:10 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Falling).  Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Sunday...
07:25 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
07:25 <GodTodd> #seen n54
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 8 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 37 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 82.0°F (12:30 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect Friday afternoon...
07:25 <GodTodd> #seen ghableska
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 5 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <ghableska> #tea
07:25 <GodTodd> #weather hell
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Baseline Lake, Pinckney, Michigan is 72.7°F (1:29 AM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
07:26 <GodTodd> like that? :D
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> #echo HI DURKA
07:26 <armabot> HI DURKA
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> man, that sooo used to piss me off
07:26 <Stewie-Arma> wow
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> we'd all be talking and hanging out, and durka would come in, hit up armabot for some love, then leave
07:26 <Stewie-Arma> talk about useless stuff
07:26 <GodTodd> yep
07:26 <GodTodd> #math calc 4+5+4+8*6
07:26 <armabot> GodTodd: 61
07:26 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037
07:26 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 75.9°F (10:30 PM PDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising).
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> #finc 75.9
07:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 24.3888888889
07:27 <Stewie-Arma> oh
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> so are you guys ready to join this game yet?  ;)
07:27 <Stewie-Arma> lol I was like what is finc, but then I realised what it was
07:27 <GodTodd> grrr
07:28 <Stewie-Arma> can't...
07:28 <GodTodd> this switch is pissing me off
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> svn switch?
07:28 <GodTodd> yep
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-Arma: why not?
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: just grab a beta4 tarball and build it :)
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> work out the svn thing while you're waiting for luke to hit turn done
07:29 <Stewie-Arma> 1.) Don't know how to play FreeCiv very well 2.) don't think the switch will work on macs. 3.) I'm already playing 3 games right now
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> 1) only one way to learn 2) download a prebuilt binary 3) probably better that way, then
07:30 <GodTodd> bah...just did a sudo rm -r *
07:30 <GodTodd> :)
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> none of us were born knowing how to play freeciv, even though luke plays like he was just born
07:31 <GodTodd> doing a clean co with the 2.1 path
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ping
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> I guess luke decided not to switch to 2.1?
07:41 <luke-jr> ?
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://pearljam.com/news/index.php?what=News#195
07:42 <luke-jr> #echo Lucifer_arma: Luke switched to 2.1 a LONG time ago
07:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Luke switched to 2.1 a LONG time ago
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> then why didn't you reconnect to my server yet ?  :)
07:42 <luke-jr> need to svn up
07:48 <luke-jr> #echo what rev works?
07:48 <armabot> what rev works?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> latest
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> but it has to be from the 2.1 branch
07:48 <luke-jr> #echo I get build errors
07:48 <armabot> I get build errors
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> not the trunk
07:49 <luke-jr> #echo registry.c:821: error: 'BUG_URL' undeclared (first use in this function)
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I didn't, on two computers (different oses even)
07:49 <armabot> registry.c:821: error: 'BUG_URL' undeclared (first use in this function)
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> you did autogen.sh again, and configure again, right?
07:49 <luke-jr> #echo nope
07:49 <armabot> nope
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you can --disable-server if you're in a hurry
07:50 <Stewie-Arma> luke-jr you really like the #echo command don't you?
07:50 <luke-jr> #echo make is supposed to handle that :)
07:50 <armabot> make is supposed to handle that :)
07:50 <luke-jr> Stewie-Arma: I'm on his ignore
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> yes, it is :/
07:50 <Stewie-Arma> oh
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-Arma: one reason this channel has been so quiet lately is because I started ignoring luke
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> which is a good thing in a way, because it means this channel isn't full up of me and him arguing
07:51 <Stewie-Arma> yes this has been told to me
07:51 <luke-jr> #echo and #echo works for when I have something to actually say to him :p
07:51 <armabot> and #echo works for when I have something to actually say to him :p
07:51 <Stewie-Arma> several tens of seconds before you said that
07:52 <GodTodd> i never ignore luke...he's great for those times i find utter stupidity a
07:52 <GodTodd> svn: 'svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1'
07:52 <GodTodd> is not the same repository as
07:52 <GodTodd> 'http://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv'
07:52 <GodTodd> musing :)
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I personally think it's better this way, might be better if he ignored me reciprocally, because now we have to work at talking
07:52 <luke-jr> .........
07:52 <GodTodd> damn random pastes
07:52 <GodTodd> :/
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:52 <luke-jr> my IRC client *asks* before it does that :p
07:52 <GodTodd> luke-jr: good for you, sparky :)
07:52 <Stewie-Arma> anyone here use x-chat aqua?
07:53 <GodTodd> nope
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> nope
07:53  * Lucifer_arma <---- not a mac user
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I installed x-chat at work on one of the macs
07:53  * GodTodd had to learn macs for when he was an earthlink tech...
07:53 <luke-jr> I use Konversation :)
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> you guys connect whenever you're ready, I'm a grab a smoke
07:54 <Stewie-Arma> *gasp*
07:54 <luke-jr> is Stewie-Arma playing?
07:54 <GodTodd> great...now i have to switch irc clients too?
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> don't change the rules too much.  :)  It's the world map, civ choices are limited
07:54 <GodTodd> :/
07:54 <Stewie-Arma> no sory luke
07:54 <Stewie-Arma> sorry**
07:54 <luke-jr> #echo Lucifer_arma: you'd need to op us to let us change rules
07:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: you'd need to op us to let us change rules
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> and iirc, they removed spawn point/nation associations, so it doesn't matter what you pick, theoretically
07:55 <luke-jr> #echo they removed Japan too >:O
07:55 <armabot> they removed Japan too >:O
07:55 <Stewie-Arma> it was pointless...
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> never was a japan
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> the japan we had, I added
07:55 <Stewie-Arma> orly?
07:55 <luke-jr> #echo ah
07:55 <armabot> ah
07:55 <Stewie-Arma> I remember the first game I played I started on japan
07:55 <Stewie-Arma> never saw it since, but yeah
07:59 <Stewie-Arma> well while you guys play your game I'm gunna go watch me some Rurouni Kenshin... probably finish the series tonight
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> ping timeout
08:00 <Stewie-Arma> God get a better isp!
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
08:01 <GodTodd> crashed again
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> does it put something in the terminal after it crashes?
08:01 <GodTodd> civclient: shared.c:716: real_die: Assertion `0' failed.
08:01 <GodTodd> Aborted (core dumped)
08:02 <GodTodd> before that:
08:02 <GodTodd> 0: Bad nation id 0 (count 125) in nation_of_player
08:02 <GodTodd> 0: Detected fatal error in nation.c line 255:
08:02 <GodTodd> 0: wrong nation 0
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> damn c programmers :/
08:03 <Stewie-Arma> AMEN brother
08:03 <GodTodd> Stewie-Arma: my isp is just fine, tyvm :P
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> wait, how are you running it?
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> are you doing "./civ" ?
08:03 <GodTodd> yeah
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, that should work
08:03 <GodTodd> should :)
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> it's a wrapper that sets everything up
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> try a beta4 tarball?
08:03 <GodTodd> grrrrr
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> if you can build svn, you should be able to build a beta....
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> you can do ./configure --disable-server to speed it up a bit
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, it doesn't take long to build anyway
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> just out of curiosity, you didn't build the sdl client, did you?
08:04 <GodTodd> i did the path you gave me
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> which is the latest in the 2.1 series, with bugfixes from beta4
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> beta3 was pretty stable, iirc
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/beta/freeciv-2.1.0-beta3.tar.gz
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> what nation do you want?
08:07 <GodTodd> german i think
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> mind if I start you as AI then?
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> German, GodTodd I
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> citymindist is 2, so it can't screw you up too bad smallpoxing
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> crash yet?  ;)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> same error?
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> if it is, try one more time, this time just say something in the console
08:20 <luke-jr> #echo ...
08:20 <armabot> ...
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08:23 <beta_usa> hey
08:23 <Stewie-Arma> hello
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> crash again?
08:43 <beta_usa> ?
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> crash again?
08:43 <Stewie-Arma> they're playing freeciv and luke's game keeps crashing
08:43 <GodTodd> yeah...crashed again
08:44 <GodTodd> and i'm *not* luke :P
08:44 <Stewie-Arma> whoops
08:44 <Stewie-Arma> yeah I meant todd
08:44 <Stewie-Arma> luke, todd they're both first names.
08:45 <GodTodd> stick around a while and you'll find out why calling anyone luke is a mortal insult ;)
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08:46 <Lucifer_arma> blade runner, hellblade, what's the difference?
08:47 <Stewie-Arma> heh doesn't bother me
08:48 <Stewie-Arma> and blade runner was quite a good player...
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08:48 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you don't need to be so humble
08:48 <luke-jr> it's okay if you want to be me
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> he was a good runner :)
08:48 <Stewie-Arma> luke who would want to be you?
08:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
08:49 -!- luke-jr changed the topic of #armagetron to: Latest Version: | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070407 | AFL discussion is in #afl , most of the time anyhow | pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/
08:49 <Stewie-Arma> especially when your game keeps quiting ;P
08:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
08:49 <luke-jr> it doesn't
08:49 <appa> yo i have a question
08:49 <Stewie-Arma> yeah.
08:49 <GodTodd> luke-jr: if i were you, i'd have someone shoot me :)
08:50 <Stewie-Arma> GodTodd: if I was luke-jr I would have myself kill me twice
08:50 <GodTodd> now you're getting it :)
08:51 <Stewie-Arma> appa you had a question...
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09:06 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: dunno...keeps crashing for me :/
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball is luke coming back, or should I aitoggle him?
09:06 <luke-jr> #eightball am I coming back, or should Lucifer aitoggle me?
09:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Unlikely.
09:06 <armabot> luke-jr: It shall be.
09:06 <luke-jr> ...
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> rofl
09:06 <luke-jr> #eightball aitoggle me?
09:06 <armabot> luke-jr: Obviously.
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> yes
09:07 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: obviously!
09:07 <luke-jr> #echo Lucifer_arma: teh 8-ball sez obviously aitoggle me
09:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: teh 8-ball sez obviously aitoggle me
09:07 <Stewie-Arma> luke-jr your not armabot...
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> done
09:07 <luke-jr> 'night
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> awww
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> it's only 12:12 here
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> maybe we should go back to 2.0 if we're going to play during the intercession
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> 0012 I should say
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037
09:08 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 74.3°F (12:10 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
09:09 <Stewie-Arma> hmm quite pleasent for summer... unusual for san diego
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09:09 <Stewie-Arma> hey tramshed
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09:09 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm...
09:10 <Stewie-Arma> wonder what he's doing so late
09:20 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, pong
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> er, too late
09:20 <Stewie-Arma> just a little late on that one spidey
09:20 <spidey> haha
09:20 <spidey> just woke up
09:21 <noob7> #weather dublin
09:21 <armabot> noob7: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM IST; Chance of Rain. High:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Rain. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° (1 more message)
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09:21 <GodTodd> man spidey you have one of the *most* fucked up sleep schedules i've ever seen
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> wow that cold
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> wb tramshed
09:21 <noob7> #weather munich
09:21 <armabot> noob7: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 9:20 AM CEST; Rain. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Rain. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Rain. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Rain. Low:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Rain. High:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Rain. Low:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.;
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> #weather san_diego
09:21 <noob7> warmer than here in dublin...
09:21 <spidey> no GodTodd my friend, anjori has the most fucked up sleep pattern
09:21 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:21 <spidey> because
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> blech
09:21 <spidey> i sleep during the days and am awake at night
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> are we allowed spaces?
09:22 <spidey> anjori sleeps  whenever, and is awake whenever
09:22 <GodTodd> #weather "san diego"
09:22 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:22 <GodTodd> hrmm
09:22 <noob7> zip codes work too
09:22 <Stewie-Arma> #weather san diego
09:22 <spidey> #weather 38256
09:22 <GodTodd> #weather san diego
09:22 <noob7> for us at least
09:22 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:22 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 81.5°F (2:27 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling).
09:22 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:22 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm
09:22 <noob7> #weather frankfurt
09:22 <Stewie-Arma> oh well I just stick to the la jolla shores one
09:22 <armabot> noob7: The current temperature in Frankfurt, Germany is 57.2°F (9:20 AM CEST on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
09:23 <Stewie-Arma> #weather sandiego
09:23 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:23 <Stewie-Arma> heh
09:23 <noob7> #finc 57.2
09:23 <armabot> noob7: 14
09:23 <noob7> ok, leaveing behind bad weather in munich, to go "meh" about the weather in frankfurt just to arrive in bad weather again in dublin
09:24 <noob7> but then again dublin isnt were I am going in Ireland
09:24 <Stewie-Arma> lolz
09:24 <noob7> the stupid weather plugin just doesnt know Kerry
09:24 <Stewie-Arma> I'm going to Ireland sometime within the next year...
09:24 <noob7> cool, have you been before?
09:24 <Stewie-Arma> nope
09:24 <Stewie-Arma> but I have some sailing buddies from there
09:24 <noob7> then it'll be even more awesome
09:25 <Stewie-Arma> ^_^
09:25 <noob7> I'm leaving in about 2 hours for Valentia Island, its a little peninsula in the south west
09:25 <Stewie-Arma> niced
09:26 <Stewie-Arma> you taking plane?
09:26 <noob7> no net access, cellphone stays home
09:26 <noob7> train to frankfurt from munich, then plane to kerry airport
09:26 <noob7> (flights are cheaper from fankfurt)
09:26 <noob7> WAY cheaper
09:26 <Stewie-Arma> heh just don't take any planes from the UK
09:26 <noob7> why is that?
09:26 <Stewie-Arma> they'll confiscate everythign you have ;P
09:27 <noob7> lol, I only got like 7 shirts, 2 pants and underwear + 2 sweaters and boots
09:27 <noob7> 15kilo weight restriction sucks
09:27 <noob7> that's the downside of the cheap flight
09:27 <noob7> oh and the fishing gear...
09:27 <Stewie-Arma> heh I live in US, no such thing as cheap flight ;P
09:28 <noob7> well national flights are rather cheap arent they?
09:28 <Stewie-Arma> not really
09:28 <Stewie-Arma> 200+
09:28 <Stewie-Arma> USD that is
09:28 <noob7> my cousin is flying in from chicago, dunno what he is paying (2 kids coming along)
09:28 <spidey> haha
09:28 <Stewie-Arma> (that's both ways)
09:28 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, lizz and canis are playing scortched3d
09:28 <spidey> and they got some others on teamspeak playing it
09:29 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm I should probably redownload vectortd
09:30 <noob7> the flight for me is 150euros both ways + taxes, that's alright I guess
09:30 <Stewie-Arma> and by download I mean play
09:30 <GodTodd> #weather san diego, california
09:30 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in San Diego, California is 66.2°F (11:51 PM PDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
09:30 <GodTodd> :D
09:30 <Stewie-Arma> rofl
09:30 <noob7> but I'll have to add in the train fair, which is another 100 euros both ways
09:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, up for from scortched3d ? :D
09:31 <noob7> well I'm off guys
09:31 <noob7> buhbye
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> no, sorry
09:31 <spidey> ;(
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09:31 <GodTodd> hrmm...contemporary or fantasy?
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> we started a freeciv game without you
09:31 <GodTodd> :/
09:32 <spidey> ;/
09:32 <spidey> you know
09:32 <spidey> "i won't be playing tonight!"
09:32 <spidey> so i went to sleep =/
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok, I suspect there'll be problems restoring the savegame
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> godtodd couldn't join the game
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> numerous little problems
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> I'm inclined to go back to 2.0.9
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> 2.1beta2 was nice and stable, but had that air unit problem
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> they could have just fixed that one problem and released :)
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> it's fixed now, but it's like for every bug they fix, they get 3 new ones
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> each beta is successively worse
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> ok, got bored
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> at least if we go back to 2.0 we can use the warclient again
09:40 <GodTodd> true
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09:43 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, remember how to line up shots in scortched3d?
09:43 <spidey> it was a button that was like freelook for locking on
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10:14 <NORAB_3d> hey all
10:14 <Stewie-Arma> hello
10:15 <beta_usa> Are there any plans to make armagetron comunicate with dbus ?
10:15 <beta_usa> That would be great.
10:15 <Stewie-Arma> I don't think that has been sugested yet...
10:16 <beta_usa> I'm not sure that a lot of people will have the use for this either, but still, i like the idea :)
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10:42 <NORAB_3d> !upload
10:42 <NORAB_3d> !upload
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11:13 <NORAB_3d> bbl
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12:29 <spidey> |-o-|  <--ohes noes darthvader is coming!
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15:12 <spidey> }-o-{
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15:15 <epsy> hi
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15:41 <deja_vu> #weather siegen
15:41 <armabot> deja_vu: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:43 <tramshed> pwned.
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15:50 <beta_usa> hey deja_vu
15:54 <deja_vu> hi beta_usa :)
16:04 <luke-jr> beta_usa: wtf *would* Arma do with dbus?
16:06 <deja_vu> O.o
16:06 <digitx> luke-jr, bad ?? -.-
16:07 <beta_usa> luke-jr: any changes you can dream.
16:07 <beta_usa> Like modify the rubber through SSH.
16:07 <beta_usa> of a running game
16:08 <luke-jr> ...
16:08 <beta_usa> ...
16:08 <beta_usa> If you don't like what i said, just discard it and let's talk about something else.
16:09 <luke-jr> no, it's an idea-- but probably the lowest priority
16:09 <luke-jr> there's *so* much "planned" features already and too few developers
16:11 <beta_usa> I'm aware of that. It's wasn't a feature request though, just a dream.
16:11 <beta_usa> I now i could even do that instead of telling this on a chan, but i don't know dbus enough yet.
16:12 <PsYkO> luke-jr, I demand 3-D aliens chasing after lightcycles in 3.1.
16:13 <luke-jr> ...
16:13 <luke-jr> PsYkO: we just added stereo support at all, give it time!
16:13 <luke-jr> (thanks to wrtlprnft)
16:13 <PsYkO> stereo as in sound?
16:15 <luke-jr> as in video
16:16 <PsYkO> Cool xD
16:16 <PsYkO> can't way to see it
16:17 <PsYkO> Are there planned camera changes for 3?  Because that's the one and only thing that stops me from upgrading.
16:17 <luke-jr> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_635.png
16:18 <tramshed> haha
16:18 <tramshed> 3dtron
16:18 <tramshed> wow thats a lot better font
16:18 <tramshed> that alone makes the game look about a gazillion times better
16:18 <PsYkO> I don't even know where to go to buy 3-d glasses :)
16:18 <luke-jr> ... isn't it Arial
16:19 <luke-jr> PsYkO: there's a website that will send free to US with a SASE
16:19 <tramshed> big green meter on left looks kinda lame though
16:19 <tramshed> you guys are actually making a version 3 now?
16:19 <tramshed> we arnt just gonna keep to 2.x?
16:20 <PsYkO> 3.0 is already out
16:20 <PsYkO> It is sweet except camera Dx
16:20 <luke-jr> um
16:20 <luke-jr> no
16:20 <luke-jr> 1.0 isn't even out
16:20 <PsYkO> .3*
16:20 <spidey> ...
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16:20 <tramshed> ok, im lost I think
16:20 <luke-jr> .3 is an experimental series
16:20 <PsYkO> my bad
16:20 <luke-jr> think Linux 2.5
16:20 <tramshed> oh, haha
16:20 <luke-jr> or 2.3
16:21 <epsy> #tea
16:21 <tramshed> I thought we referrring to tron
16:21 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
16:21 <spidey> luke
16:21 <luke-jr> .3 = not tested
16:21 <luke-jr> tramshed: Armagetron
16:21 <tramshed> you guys rewriting it or something?
16:21 <spidey> wtf's it with you and these versions?
16:21 <spidey> you obviously know wtf the person's talking about
16:21 <luke-jr> spidey: don't look at me
16:21 <luke-jr> *I* voted to make it 2.0 etc
16:21 <tramshed> hah
16:21 <spidey> ..
16:21 <tramshed> so, is this the same tron im seeing in the screenshot, or a rewrite?
16:22 <tramshed> because im totally lost at this point
16:22 <luke-jr> but zman or luci or someone didn't want to let the stupid people be right
16:22 <PsYkO> So yeh, when is tron going to premiere on Wii, PS3, Xbox 360 etc?
16:22 <luke-jr> tramshed: Svn trunk
16:22 <PsYkO> :)
16:22 <spidey> luke-jr, smart them
16:22 <tramshed> ah
16:22 <luke-jr> PsYkO: never, unless you get those platforms to open up
16:22 <tramshed> well, it looks nicer
16:22 <luke-jr> PsYkO: a Wii/Xbox version would be illegal otherwise
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16:22 <PsYkO> I know, was joke
16:22 <tramshed> does the xbox branch of gentoo include its 3d support?
16:23 <tramshed> if so you might get tron to compile on it
16:23 <MrBougo> hiho
16:23 <luke-jr> tramshed: doubt it
16:23 <tramshed> I doubt it too
16:23 <tramshed> be cool if it did though
16:23 <luke-jr> tramshed: 0.3.0 is an old trunk snapshot, if you want fonts
16:23 <luke-jr> tramshed: better to just run trunk tho
16:23 <tramshed> havnt messed with it
16:23 <tramshed> new development to me since I last was playing
16:24 <tramshed> lot of changes actually
16:24 <tramshed> no more bends/rips, no more bounce, grinding feels normal in the new versions again
16:24 <tramshed> I remember when 2.7 first came out grinding was strange
16:24 <luke-jr> .2.7
16:25 <tramshed> aye, im just lazy
16:25 <PsYkO> http://sp-clan.freehostia.com/
16:25 <PsYkO> any opinions?
16:25 <luke-jr> clans suck
16:25 <luke-jr> :)
16:25 <tramshed> haha
16:25 <tramshed> I think I might be getting my old server back
16:25 <tramshed> so Ill be bringing World Of Hate back online
16:25 <luke-jr> too much moving crap on that page
16:25 <PsYkO> I agree
16:25 <luke-jr> tramshed: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
16:26 <PsYkO> agreed, 3 too many marquees
16:26 <tramshed> hah
16:26 <MrBougo> wee
16:26 <tramshed> everyones tryin to sell me servers
16:26 <PsYkO> hi mrbougo
16:26 <tramshed> I gots my owns!
16:26 <MrBougo> Crystal Clouds 4th birthday, 70 hours of livesets, nonstop
16:26 <tramshed> maybe
16:26 <MrBougo> 2nd day today
16:26 <luke-jr> tramshed: mine are on biz ISP
16:26 <MrBougo> WIll B in the mix atm
16:26 <tramshed> besides, im broke
16:27 <tramshed> Id rather host it here, worked well enough before
16:27 <tramshed> and this connection has better latentcy than the last one
16:27 <spidey> luke-jr, yours are on a vps
16:28 <PsYkO> Brb, going to microwave some chicken wings :)
16:28 <epsy> #sd elim
16:28 <armabot> epsy: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (3/16): =AlexXx, Domi!, TK:Gazelle
16:28 <tramshed> I like how that screenie looks though
16:28 <tramshed> other than the big green whateverthehell guage on the left and the red ones, its pretty snazzy
16:30 <PsYkO> chicken wings + keyboard = smart
16:30 <tramshed> haha
16:30 <tramshed> stickyfingers
16:31 <luke-jr> microwave = dumb
16:31 <spidey> luke-jr = dumb
16:31 <tramshed> microwave + tin foil = cool lookin
16:31 <PsYkO> i shoulda put them into oven but im too hungry
16:33 <tramshed> some of these new servers have insane amounts of rubber
16:34 <tramshed> I spent probably 2 minutes just 180'ing back and forth on a wall seeing if it would bend
16:34 <luke-jr> lol
16:34 <tramshed> its like you are basically invincible
16:34 <PsYkO> all servers with under 25 rubber stink
16:34 <tramshed> the amount of time it takes to turn allows you to regen the rubber quicker than yuo lose it
16:35 <tramshed> heh, well world of hate had 4
16:35 <tramshed> and will have 4 again, unless its too little with the new tron, then it will have 6
16:35 <tramshed> NO MORE!
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16:35 <tramshed> grinding isnt grinding if you can light a cigerette between hitting a wall and needing to turn
16:36 <luke-jr> tramshed: *sometimes* the speed is faster to accomidate the higher rubber
16:36 <spidey> yea
16:36 <tramshed> yeah, I noticed some are like that
16:36 <tramshed> most arent though
16:36 <tramshed> I had a good ole time on tigers yesterday
16:36 <tramshed> and I see swampland is still around
16:37 <tramshed> darn is gone 8(
16:37 <MrBougo> :(
16:37  * luke-jr hosts swampland
16:37 <MrBougo> swampland roxx
16:37 <tramshed> and ish is gone too
16:37 <MrBougo> luke-jr both swamplands?
16:37 <MrBougo> II and 2.7.1?
16:37 <luke-jr> .2.7.1 US & Europe
16:37 <PsYkO> tramshed - how long ago have u last played
16:37 <tramshed> besides the last few weeks it was two years
16:38 <MrBougo> nice
16:38 <tramshed> been trying to find pirate to get him back in the game
16:38 <MrBougo> luke-jr: what %age of all the arma servers are you hosting? xD
16:38 <luke-jr> not that much
16:38 <spidey> .00001
16:38 <PsYkO> i was around 2 years ago
16:38 <MrBougo> lol
16:38 <tramshed> same name?
16:38 <PsYkO> so was pretty much everyone else here xD lol
16:38 <MrBougo> but anyway, swampland roxx
16:38 <tramshed> im /dev/null ingame
16:38 <PsYkO> yeh
16:39 <mkzelda> luke-jr: your website design service you provide doesnt look like your site does it?
16:39 <MrBougo> it's my home server, <3
16:39 <PsYkO> do you remember the old speeders server
16:39 <tramshed> mkzelda, hah
16:39 <luke-jr> mkzelda: depends on what's being designed
16:39 <spidey> you was /dev/null ?
16:39 <tramshed> yep
16:39 <MrBougo> omg, i love this
16:39 <tramshed> thats me
16:39 <spidey> heh
16:39 <spidey> i remember the name from way back when
16:39 <PsYkO>  /dev/null ftw
16:39 <tramshed> there was an imposter me on the other day
16:39 <PsYkO> same
16:40 <luke-jr> any of you know Java?
16:40 <tramshed> got on a server and it changed my name to /dev/null2
16:40 <MrBougo> luke-jr: i can read java
16:40 <MrBougo> but not write
16:40 <tramshed> im java illiterate
16:40 <spidey> luke-jr, wtf you need java for?
16:40 <MrBougo> thats pretty useful, isnt it...
16:40 <MrBougo> lvoe the syntax
16:40 <MrBougo> love*;
16:41 <luke-jr> spidey: XML object
16:41 <luke-jr> or rather, E4X support
16:41 <tramshed> im guessing he wants something cross platform for the web or something
16:42 <PsYkO> lol i cant read any programmer stuff
16:42 <PsYkO> I can't even make a gosh darn website
16:42 <luke-jr> pathetic
16:42 <spidey> make 3 boxes
16:42 <spidey> and call it a site
16:42 <PsYkO> it took me 4 hours to do the wiki.Tilt
16:42 <spidey> tis what i do
16:42 <tramshed> hah
16:42 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org
16:42 <tramshed> my websites tend to be pretty basic
16:42 <PsYkO> and another 4 researching how to make the gosh darn table
16:42 <tramshed> but thats more laziness than anything else
16:43 <tramshed> id rather tinker under the hood than paint the car
16:43 <spidey> tramshed, amen
16:43 <PsYkO> i could probably figure my way around website stuff its just I don't know the first thing about the admin CP of free host sites
16:43 <tramshed> bout the most complexity you might see out of me is phpBB with a custom style
16:43 <PsYkO> like file programs and all that
16:43 <spidey> eh?
16:43 <spidey> screw that stuff
16:44 <spidey> it should all burn
16:44 <tramshed> hah
16:44 <tramshed> those one click hosters
16:44 <spidey> ssh/php upload script   < cpanel/wtfeverpanel
16:44 <tramshed> get amazing speeds of .001k/sec!
16:44 <spidey> alligator mouth eats loser :D
16:44 <tramshed> hah
16:45 <PsYkO> sucks even more that i dont have dreamweaver
16:45 <PsYkO> arghghghghg now im getting all pissy
16:45 <PsYkO> on my day off no less
16:45 <luke-jr> Dreamweaver is total trash
16:45 <GodTodd> i might be willing to help luke-jr with java...but i seem to remember him telling me that learning java was useless, that no one worthwile uses it....that and i wouldn't want to offend his chauvenistic sensibilities with the fact that i would *have* to mention that my wife knows java like the back of her hand....you know, showing that not *all* women are stupid ;)
16:45 <tramshed> I used to use some opensource wysiwig
16:45 <luke-jr> that needs to burn
16:45 <spidey> dreamweaver should die to
16:45 <spidey> you need nothing more than
16:45 <spidey> ....notepad!
16:45 <luke-jr> GodTodd: I'm just using Java classes :p
16:45 <tramshed> haha
16:46 <tramshed> I hate writing html
16:46 <tramshed> I just use something simple to lay it out quick and easy like
16:46 <spidey> GodTodd, tell himt ot fuck off
16:46 <spidey> tramshed, quickly?
16:47 <spidey> CSS is about the quickist thing you can use :p
16:47 <GodTodd> luke-jr: and java classes are not part of java?
16:47 <tramshed> I wish I could remember the name of the editor I used to use
16:47 <tramshed> its in portage somewhere
16:47 <luke-jr> GodTodd: "part of"
16:47 <GodTodd> luke-jr: and if you knew even "part of" java...then you wouldn't have to ask :)
16:48 <spidey> lol
16:48 <luke-jr> I do know part of Java, just not this part
16:48 <GodTodd> or, to show you you *have* taught me something, luke-jr: RTFM :)
16:48 <luke-jr> I'll bet you don't either
16:48 <luke-jr> I need to append the classpath at runtime
16:49 <GodTodd> bet all you want...you'd have even less money, sparky
16:49 <PsYkO> I know English...
16:49 <GodTodd> yep, i know how to do that
16:49 <GodTodd> but will i tell your condescending ass?
16:49 <GodTodd> don't bet on it :)
16:49 <spidey> poont
16:50 <luke-jr> you just don't know
16:50 <GodTodd> whatever you have to tell yourself, go ahead
16:50 <tramshed> haha
16:50 <GodTodd> i know what i know
16:50 <GodTodd> :)
16:50 <PsYkO> This is fun..
16:50 <tramshed> I know that you know that I know that you dont know
16:50 <luke-jr> which doesn't include appending the classpath at runtime
16:50 <GodTodd> sure, sparky
16:50 <GodTodd> :)
16:51 <tramshed> luke, screw him, go to the oracle known as google
16:51 <spidey> well
16:51 <spidey> the answer's 2
16:51 <tramshed> and screw him well!
16:51 <tramshed> 42!
16:51 <luke-jr> tramshed: Google doesn't know either
16:51 <tramshed> wow, sucks to be google
16:51 <GodTodd> while you know what's in my mind, where did i leave my keys, luke-jr?
16:51 <spidey> luke-jr, maybe you don't know how to ask ggogle
16:51 <spidey> google*
16:51 <luke-jr> GodTodd: your pocket, foo
16:52 <GodTodd> nope
16:52 <GodTodd> luke-jr is wrong *again*, imagine that
16:52 <GodTodd> :)
16:52 <tramshed> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/solaris/classpath.html this maybe?
16:52 <luke-jr> then I guess you *forgot*
16:52 <GodTodd> sure, sparky
16:52 <GodTodd> :)
16:52 <PsYkO> I was waiting for luke-jr to say "up your arse, foo"
16:52 <MrBougo> GodTodd: your a*s
16:52 <MrBougo> aw
16:52 <luke-jr> tramshed: what part of that is at runtime?
16:52 <MrBougo> lol PsYkO
16:52 <spidey> tramshed, you're not supposed to actually help him..
16:52 <PsYkO> but no, I was disappointed xD
16:52 <MrBougo> i did
16:53 <MrBougo> so you aint disappointed
16:53 <PsYkO> nice call :)
16:53 <tramshed> The default class path is the current directory. Setting the CLASSPATH variable or using the -classpath command-line option overrides that default, so if you want to include the current directory in the search path, you must include "." in the new settings.
16:53 <tramshed> that part?
16:53 <tramshed> beats me
16:53 <tramshed> I dont know java
16:53 <luke-jr> that's part of the execution command
16:53 <luke-jr> :p
16:54 <PsYkO> so no one answered me question of....
16:54 <GodTodd> whenever anyone else asks for help, luke-jr always says RTFM...that's why i'm giving him a hard time on it
16:54 <PsYkO> the camera in .3.1
16:54 <tramshed> http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.jdt.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_jdt_launching_runtimeClasspathEntries.html
16:54 <tramshed> ?
16:56 <tramshed> http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=300557
16:56 <tramshed> that one maybe too
16:57 <tramshed> judging frm the silence I think one of them might of had the answer
16:57 <tramshed> or GodTodd really did know and is spilling the beans
16:57 <tramshed> or I am lagging out and dont know it yet
16:57 <spidey> raman > luke-jr
16:58 <tramshed> I ate so much fucking ramen in prison
16:58 <spidey> lol
16:59 <luke-jr> ..
16:59 <tramshed> ...
17:00 <spidey> ....
17:01 <spidey> nickleback - animals
17:02  * tramshed is listening to...  `Too Little, Too Late` by The Descendants of Mike and Phoebe on WFMU on Give the Drummer Some (WFMU - 128k Version - Freeform Radio the Way it Oughta Be!!)
17:03 <luke-jr> nope
17:04 <tramshed> well, I tried
17:04 <tramshed> hit up #java or something
17:05  * MrBougo is now playing: Crystal Clouds 4th Birthday - Will B (1.FM - Trance)
17:05 <Lucifer_arma> rt-thefuck-m!
17:05 <tramshed> haha
17:05 <tramshed> lucipwned
17:05 <MrBougo> lol
17:05 <mkzelda> 9 days, 23 hrs, 19 mins, 40 seconds
17:05 <mkzelda> Gabbo!
17:05  * Lucifer_arma is now listening to...  `Who gives a fuck what you're listening to?` by Shut The Fuck Up, Asshole.
17:06 <tramshed> haha
17:06 <MrBougo> indeed
17:06 <tramshed> boredom cares!
17:06 <spidey> see
17:06 <spidey> if i cared if you wanted to see what i was listening to
17:06 <epsy> someone fort café ?
17:06 <spidey> i would have asked first
17:06 <spidey> but, i obviously didn't :D
17:06 <MrBougo> epsy: nexuiz ctf :p
17:07 <Lucifer_arma> that reminds me, my kids are a lot quieter when I have music pllaying
17:07 <mkzelda> nexuiz 1v1 :D
17:07 <epsy> =(
17:07 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should start some
17:07 <tramshed> tron sounds like a good idea
17:07 <spidey> haha
17:07 <tramshed> im bored enough to go pwn some people
17:07 <Lucifer_arma> and you spent enough time in jail to be pretty good at bending at right angles
17:07 <spidey> i haven't played tron in so long
17:08 <Lucifer_arma> man, that freeciv game last night went off more like a glob2 game
17:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i still hate you for that :(
17:08 <Lucifer_arma> that why you're listening to emo music now?
17:08 <spidey> it's not emo music...
17:09 <Lucifer_arma> nickleback isn't emo music?  SINCE WHEN?!?!?
17:10 <Lucifer_arma> see, telling us what you're listening to just opens you up for abuse, since hardly anybody here likes the same music as anybody else
17:10  * GodTodd likes megadeth...
17:10 <GodTodd> :P
17:11 <Lucifer_arma> my kids' new favorite song is Monty Python's Ho Ho Fucking Ho
17:11 <GodTodd> haah
17:11 <GodTodd> haha*
17:12 <GodTodd> i like the sperm song
17:12 <spidey> fine
17:12 <GodTodd> every sperm is sacred i think is what it's called
17:12 <spidey> brb i'm going to cut myself
17:12 <Lucifer_arma> have fun
17:12 <spidey> :D
17:13 <Lucifer_arma> let us know how it all works out
17:13 <GodTodd> if it's successful he won't be able to :)
17:13 <Lucifer_arma> I want to redefine emo as "too wussy to be BDSM"
17:14 <GodTodd> how about: solo bdsm?
17:14 <spidey> actually
17:14 <spidey> as long as it's not techno, or dance
17:14 <spidey> i probably like it
17:14 <Lucifer_arma> my dick is neither techno or dance
17:14 <spidey> ...
17:14  * GodTodd dances on Lucifer_arma's dick.
17:15 <spidey> lol
17:16 <Lucifer_arma> it has been my observation that when there's music going, usually metal, my kids are extremely well-behaved, they don't argue or fight with each other, and they do good work quickly when I ask them to
17:17 <Lucifer_arma> so here we go, Megadeth
17:18 <GodTodd> old or new?
17:18 <Lucifer_arma> haha, that's a hard question to answer
17:18 <Lucifer_arma> She-Wolf, off Cryptic Writings
17:18 <GodTodd> heh
17:18 <Lucifer_arma> I filled up a CD with mp3s, my dvd player plays them
17:19 <GodTodd> so...a Mega-Medley :)
17:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh, yeah, but it's not just megadeth
17:19 <Lucifer_arma> for one, it's got Ho Ho Fucking Ho on it
17:19 <GodTodd> i should see if my dvd player plays mp3s
17:19 <GodTodd> i think it does
17:20 <Lucifer_arma> my brother-in-law just cleaned out his garage and stumbled across an old receiver and a couple of speakers
17:20 <spidey> my stereo plays mp3's
17:20 <Lucifer_arma> so for the first time in some years we have real music again
17:20 <spidey> so i have 3 700mb cd's of music in it D:
17:20  * GodTodd goes to take a luke-jr.
17:20 <spidey> haha
17:20 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'm considering putting carplayer to the test by setting it up hooked up to the stereo
17:21 <Lucifer_arma> so is he doing #1, or #2?
17:21 <spidey> both at the sametime?
17:21 <epsy> #realchatlogs
17:21 <armabot> epsy: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
17:23 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: #2
17:23 <GodTodd> :)
17:23 <GodTodd> can't do #1 and refer to luke-jr, cuz he doesn't know piss.
17:25 <GodTodd> hrmm...is my data structures class going to be somewhat fun or is it going to be one of those "man i should have taken something else" classes?
17:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh
17:25 <Lucifer_arma> depends on how badly you want to work on eugenics :)
17:25 <epsy> 23:10 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, how did you generated the countdown voice ?
17:26  * epsy wants to know :P
17:26 <PsYkO> Hi Lucifer
17:26 <GodTodd> #last --from epsy --with countdown --nolimit
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> 10:34 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: I didn't.  Some guy named Voltsubito did it, and afaik it's just some reverb on his regular voice
17:26 <armabot> GodTodd: [17:30:24] <epsy> 23:10 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, how did you generated the countdown voice ? and [23:15:26] <epsy> Lucifer_arma, how did you generated the countdown voice ?
17:26  * GodTodd shows epsy the fast way :)
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: not if it's the last thing he said
17:27 <tramshed> haha
17:27 <Lucifer_arma> then <up><return> is faster
17:27 <tramshed> I just got told not to corner on a server with 12 rubber
17:27 <Lucifer_arma> not to corner?
17:27 <Lucifer_arma> wtf is that?
17:27 <GodTodd> well...i didn't know at the time it was the last thing he had said ;)
17:27 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, kk ty
17:27  * Lucifer_arma is a believer in keeping the traditional meanings of words, where "cornering" means pushing luke into a place where he doesn't think Jesus will save him.
17:28 <tramshed> cornering is when you grind a turn
17:28  * GodTodd should make a degree plan flowchart...
17:28 <Lucifer_arma> outside or inside?
17:28 <tramshed> inside
17:28 <tramshed> so I readjusted on a wall about 600 times
17:28 <tramshed> they got pissy about that too
17:28 <Lucifer_arma> so the phrase "outside corner grinder" is when you do it on the outside?
17:28 <PsYkO>  /me hates people that whine for cornering
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> they got pissy bout that?  THOSE SMEGHEADS DO IT ALL THE TIME
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> they just don't recognize you, that's all
17:29 <tramshed> they got pissy about it with 12 fuckin rubber
17:29 <tramshed> I literally hit a wall, took a drink, then turned and was fine
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> this "community" isn't nearly as welcoming to newcomers (or comers-from-break) as it used to be
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> didn't we used to literally run up and hug everyone that showed up?
17:30 <tramshed> aye, used to be closer
17:30 <Lucifer_arma> now we tell them to fuck off and rip into them for daring to press left or right
17:30 <tramshed> I snapped off at those llamas for telling me not to use the rubber
17:30 <tramshed> they kept saying "But its dogfight!"
17:30 <tramshed> and I kept saying "Its got 12 fuckin rubber, im gonna use it!"
17:30 <spidey> ...
17:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, if the server said "dogfight" on it, then you should have done whatever "dogfight" means :)
17:30 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't know wtf dogfight means
17:31 <spidey> indeed
17:31 <spidey> dogfighting is non-sealing
17:31 <spidey> in most cases
17:31 <tramshed> I guess it means have a ton of rubber and then bitch at people for using it
17:31 <tramshed> they were all sealing
17:31 <Lucifer_arma> so i don't go into those places.
17:31 <tramshed> how the hell you gonna kill someone with 12 rubber if you dont seal
17:31 <spidey> then they don't know wtf they're talking about :)
17:31 <tramshed> its impossible
17:31 <spidey> easy
17:31 <spidey> make them kill themselves
17:31 <spidey> i used to do it all the time
17:31 <tramshed> they have to like, leave the keyboard and go piss or something
17:31 <spidey> you give to much credit
17:32 <spidey> 12 rubber isn't that much
17:32 <spidey> you have maybe 5 seconds when you hit the wall
17:32 <spidey> unless it's really slow
17:32 <tramshed> I can just 180 on a wall back and forth infinitely
17:32 <tramshed> thats too much
17:32 <MrBougo> lol
17:32 <Lucifer_arma> you never played with /dev/null, did you spidey?
17:32 <tramshed> 5 seconds is a shitload
17:32 <tramshed> I like one, tops
17:32 <tramshed> lol luci
17:32 <tramshed> I guess the standards have changed is all
17:33 <tramshed> Does that make me an old tron fogey now?
17:33 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, lower standards of play and higher standards of smegheadery
17:33 <tramshed> 12 rubber is what it was like playing .2.7 servers with the .2.6 client
17:33 <spidey> <3
17:33 <tramshed> invincibility
17:33 <Lucifer_arma> you know, when you can take 2 years off and come back, you're an old tron fogey
17:33 <tramshed> hah
17:33 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bad though.  What about the poor suckers who remember you?  ;)
17:34 <tramshed> haha
17:34 <tramshed> tank still play?
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> now and then
17:34 <tramshed> what about Jon
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> nope
17:34 <tramshed> bummer
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> nor Jon`
17:34 <tramshed> havnt seen God either
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> nah, he disappeared.  I think God is dead.
17:34 <tramshed> God taught me
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> egg's beating around still
17:35 <tramshed> hah I think I saw him the other day
17:35 <Lucifer_arma> oh wait, you mean <red>GOD, don't you?
17:35 <tramshed> I mean god with the one colored letter
17:35 <tramshed> the god who could grind anything
17:35 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, whatever.  He uninstalled arma because he thought it was hurting his GPA
17:35 <tramshed> haha
17:35 <Lucifer_arma> said he'd come back when he finished school :)
17:35 <tramshed> probably was
17:35 <tramshed> fucker could grind his ass off
17:35 <tramshed> playing him is how I learned how to grind
17:35 <Lucifer_arma> I happened to be there in his last game before doing it ;)
17:36 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he was good
17:36 <Lucifer_arma> one of those players you celebrate when you finally beat him :)
17:36 <tramshed> I used m$ sucks for a nick until I could beat god regularly
17:36 <tramshed> Im so rusty now its stupid
17:36 <tramshed> I can still tunnel, but my grinds are weak
17:36 <Lucifer_arma> frustrating
17:36 <tramshed> gettin better, but slow
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't played in a few months, but here's what always happens:
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> your timing is totally off
17:37 <spidey> who would actually want to reinstall tron? :p
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> so the outside corner grinds?  Nah, you crash before the corner
17:37 <tramshed> haha, indeed
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> all those holes you used to be able to hit?
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> no such thing
17:37 <tramshed> unless you have 12 rubber
17:37 <tramshed> then its like pingpong
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> heh
17:37 <tramshed> I missed a little hole the other day
17:37 <tramshed> it was embarassing
17:38 <tramshed> (if thats not quotable I dont know what is)
17:38 <Lucifer_arma> it's the outside corner grinds that really annoy me.  It used to be like "holy shit, he can grind the outside of the corner!" and you never notice that you can do it, too
17:38 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034248004.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
17:38 <Lucifer_arma> until you can't, anyway
17:38 <tramshed> haha
17:38 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: all things considered, that's totally quotable :)
17:38 <tramshed> yeah I used to be awesome at corner grinds
17:38 <MrBougo> choon!
17:38 <tramshed> just ride the rim
17:38 <tramshed> and watch people smash trying to match your grinds
17:38 <tramshed> or when both people would fly at the rim and turn at each other
17:39 <tramshed> best grind didnt splatter!
17:39 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add "I missed a little hole the other day, it was embarassing --/dev/null"
17:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
17:39 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
17:39 <tramshed> haha
17:39 <tramshed> pwned.
17:39 -!- PsYkO [n=psyko@pool-72-66-47-86.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
17:39 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add "I missed a little hole the other day, it was embarassing --/dev/null"
17:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.  Quote #53 added.
17:39 <tramshed> I just had deja vu like a bitch
17:39 <spidey> tramshed, don't talk about deja_vu like that!
17:39 <tramshed> hah
17:40 <Lucifer_arma> of course, it's not quite as funny if you don't know why /dev/null was gone for so long
17:40 <tramshed> You gonna eat yah corrrnbred?
17:40 <tramshed> hah
17:40  * GodTodd does and also notes the "ride the rim" comment went totally unnoticed ;)
17:41 <tramshed> yeah, I got fucked over in that situation nicely
17:41 <tramshed> shit happens I guess
17:41 -!- PsYkO [n=psyko@pool-72-66-47-86.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
17:42 <PsYkO> I have a wiki related question
17:42 <Lucifer_arma> I have a wiki related answer
17:42 <PsYkO> I just finished finalizing the server stats that the servers for the Tilt will be using
17:42 <Lucifer_arma> (and it's not "read the fucking wiki")
17:43 <PsYkO> What is the easiest way of having a link on the wiki that allows the admins to download it or people to see them
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> this doesn't sound like a wiki related question
17:43 <PsYkO> Yes, I had one wiki related statement, and one wiki related question ;)
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> [http://www.wherever.com/whatever?this=isaquerystring This is a link]
17:43 <PsYkO> THANKS!
17:44 <Lucifer_arma> everything after the first space is put in the caption of the link
17:45 <Lucifer_arma> np
17:45 <GodTodd> #quote get 54
17:45 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #54: "<Lucifer_arma> nah, he disappeared. I think God is dead." (added by GodTodd at 05:48 PM, August 10, 2007)
17:45  * deja_vu hits tramshed 
17:46 <deja_vu> spidey: thanks :o
17:46  * tramshed hits deja_vu 
17:46  * deja_vu hits tramshed again >:
17:46 <deja_vu> >:(
17:46 <tramshed> hah
17:47 <spidey> deja_vu, <3 :D
17:48 <spidey> one thing i love about FPS games over tron
17:48 <spidey> it doesn't matter how fast you can press 4-6 keys in a FPS
17:48 <GodTodd> wonder if my instructor will post my grade today or be mean and wait until monday :/
17:49 <spidey> even when i don't touch a computer for 2 weeks, i'm still just as good at them, tron...no sir, i always had to play for hours to get back on track
17:50 <tramshed> hah
17:54 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
17:54 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
17:54 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
17:54 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 90.5°F (10:59 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Rising).  Heat advisory in effect from noon today to 7 PM CDT Saturday...
17:54 <GodTodd> 90 already?
17:54 <GodTodd> :/
17:55 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/index.php?goto=servers
17:55 <spidey> ffs, how many servers can 4 people manage >.>
17:55 <GodTodd> #weather austin, texas
17:55 <spidey> #weather 38256
17:55 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: timed out
17:55 <GodTodd> bah
17:55 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
17:55 <armabot> spidey: Error: timed out
17:55 <spidey> ...
17:55 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 94.8°F (12:00 PM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
17:56 <spidey> #weather 38256
17:56 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 89.6°F (11:00 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling).
17:56 <spidey> 89 =/
17:56 <mkzelda> my power went out when it was 103 2 days ago
17:56 <spidey> it was 100.9 yesterday
17:56 <spidey> thank god the power didn't go out..
17:57  * GodTodd remembers mesa...*shudder*
17:57 <GodTodd> #weather 85215
17:57 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Mesa, Arizona is 84.2°F (6:55 AM MST on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
17:57 <GodTodd> wow...cold there now
17:57 <spidey> lol
17:58 <GodTodd> 'course that was at 7am mst
17:58 <GodTodd> heh
17:58 <spidey> wtf's a MST
17:58 <GodTodd> mountain standard time
17:58 <spidey> o
17:58 <GodTodd> they don't save daylight
17:58 <spidey> lamers!
17:58 <GodTodd> they have enough :)
17:59 <Stewie-Arma>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
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17:59 <spidey> lool
17:59 <Stewie-Arma> grrrr
17:59 <spidey> wtf?
17:59 <mkzelda> how do they create confusion if they dont save daylight
17:59 <GodTodd> wow...that was freaky
17:59 <Stewie-Arma> sorry the text box got stuck
17:59 <mkzelda> wow that fucked up my client's formatting
17:59 <tramshed>                             
17:59 <GodTodd> mkzelda: they try not to :)
17:59 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037
17:59 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 73.4°F (8:59 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
17:59 <tramshed>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
17:59 <tramshed>   
17:59 <tramshed> SPAM!
18:00 <tramshed> got the spam out of my system for about 3 months now
18:00 <Stewie-Arma> lol it's colder than it was last night
18:00 <mkzelda> well thats just silly, u have to confuse everyone and change it whenever things start to make sense
18:00 <Stewie-Arma> #finc 73.4
18:00 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: 23
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> man, how can you handle that weather?
18:00 <GodTodd> mkzelda: haha they figured it's hot during the day so wtf would they want an extra hour of hot
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
18:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 87.4°F (11:05 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling).
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> kinda chilly here, too
18:01 <Stewie-Arma> rofl luci
18:01 <GodTodd> wtf? we're hotter than you southerners?
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> it's morning
18:01 <Stewie-Arma> texas is hotter than socal todd
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> just give it a couple of hours and we'll be toasty-fried again
18:01 <GodTodd> morning here too, duh
18:01 <mkzelda> i win so far, but im an hour ahead
18:01 <GodTodd> Stewie-Arma: i was referring to Lucifer_arma :)
18:01 <Stewie-Arma> ha it's 9 here
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was thinking we had a cold front blowing in, you know
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> looks like I was right
18:02 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
18:02 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 90.9°F (11:06 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Rising).  Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Sunday...
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 88337
18:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Tularosa, New Mexico is 85.1°F (10:06 AM MDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady).
18:02 <GodTodd> so why don't i have it? :P
18:02 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037\
18:02 <Stewie-Arma> damn
18:02 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 73.2°F (9:04 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
18:02 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
18:02 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 78.8°F (9:51 AM MDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
18:02 <GodTodd> 7 degrees between tulie and alamo?
18:02 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92109
18:02 <GodTodd> wow
18:02 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in San Diego, California is 68.0°F (8:51 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> weird, isn't it?
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> was always like that, for some reason
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> wait, I'm backwards
18:03 <mkzelda> #weather 27610
18:03 <spidey> #weather 92328
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> at least, La Luz was usually a couple of degrees cooler than Alamo
18:03 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Southall Subdivision, Raleigh, North Carolina is 94.6°F (11:49 AM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 78.8°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
18:03 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in China Lake, California is 78.8°F (8:56 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
18:03 <GodTodd> there's what, 10 miles between them?
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> always blamed it on elevation
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> 20 miles
18:03 <GodTodd> still
18:03 <GodTodd> freaky valley
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> well, between 10 and 20.  I always figured the street we lived on was the midpoint, and it was 10 miles (on white sands blvd) to alamo
18:03 <mkzelda> #weather 33901
18:03 <PsYkO> hey stewie
18:03 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Fort Myers, Florida is 91.4°F (11:53 AM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
18:04 <Stewie-Arma> hey psyko
18:04 <PsYkO> u can go into speeders, loaded right now is the settnigs for the tilt
18:04 <GodTodd> oh...wait...it's NM...it's not a valley, it's a "basin" :)
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> it really is a basin :)
18:04 <Stewie-Arma> kk I'll check it
18:04 <PsYkO> and now, i must take a pee :)
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's one of the areas where no water flows out, which is why it stinks so much there
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, gotta do some dishes
18:04 <GodTodd> i thought that was christ community :)
18:04 <mkzelda> thats why it stinks so much
18:04 <GodTodd> me too...by loading the dishwasher :)
18:05 <mkzelda> me three, by unloading the dishwasher
18:05 <mkzelda> my house is on fire!
18:05 <GodTodd> the roof?
18:05 <mkzelda> not yet
18:05 <GodTodd> you don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn
18:05 <mkzelda> collect insurance
18:06 <GodTodd> been a while since i've listened to them
18:06  * GodTodd likes bloodhound gang
18:06 <GodTodd> course i also always have liked they might be giants too :)
18:07 <GodTodd> -also or -too
18:07 <GodTodd> :/
18:07 <mkzelda> i liked bhg too
18:07 <mkzelda> naughty by nature and white by choice
18:08 <mkzelda> and the sound of my voice makes your panties moist
18:08 <GodTodd> haha
18:08 <mkzelda> cause im finger-lickin' happy like a gay proctologist
18:08 <mkzelda> and like a bike w/ hollow grips ill rip the mic w/ hollow tips
18:08 <PsYkO> bloodhound gang......ew
18:09 <mkzelda> dont come up for air until you kiss me where it smells funny
18:10 <spidey> http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1381/11uxqueqw7.gif
18:10 <mkzelda> Au concrete PM this is twizm
18:14 <mkzelda> --Shaq
18:14 <mkzelda> I've never understood that line
18:17  * tramshed is listening to...  `Head Like a Hole` by NIN on WFMU on Scott Williams's show (WFMU - 128k Version - Freeform Radio the Way it Oughta Be!!)
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18:30 <Lucifer_arma> you what really irritates me?
18:30 <Stewie-Arma> no...
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> er
18:30 <epsy> heh
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> you *know* what really irritates me?
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18:31 <epsy> hi hellblade
18:31 <GodTodd> running out of dish soap?
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> when I was younger, and I'm not *that* old!, I used to have a full 4 octaves of range on my voice
18:31 <Stewie-Arma> hey epsy
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> not a terribly good voice, mind you
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> but I had range!
18:31 <GodTodd> before or after cigarettes?
18:31 <GodTodd> :)
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> around 19/20, I even worked out the transition from mid to high without squeaking, and hit a high point where there were literally only like 3 notes across 6 king diamond/mercyful fate records I couldn't hit
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> during
18:32 <epsy> damn...still banned from #e
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> but I started smoking at 19
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
18:32 <GodTodd> there ya go :)
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> man, I was even encroaching on Geof Tate's range (but obviously he has really good timbre, my voice isn't what I'd call esthetically pleasing as a singing voice)
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm flat as soon as I go into the higher register
18:33 <spidey> lol
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> on the flip side, I've added an octave down low, so I've still got around 3 octaves, I just lost the high register
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I finally hit puberty or something and my voice broke ;)
18:34 <GodTodd> that's the cigs
18:34 <mkzelda> i had a good voice until puberty
18:34 <mkzelda> a lot more range and control
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> my voice was actually good before puberty, and it subjectively seemed to get better when I got into heavy metal back when it was Metallica and Slayer
18:35 <GodTodd> mkzelda: now you know why michael jackson refused to ever hit puberty ;)
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> but next to those guys, anybody would sound good
18:35 <mkzelda> i have a lot of ear nose and throat issues so some days i have really good days and i can have a day where i cant hear myself talk
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> that bites
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> I have the same problem, but it's kids, not ear/nose/throat issues
18:35 <mkzelda> odd thing is, smoking cigs actually helps my ENT
18:36 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: getting near phil ansel-emo's voice? ;)
18:36 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> ha!
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> I just got an email from a guy in Spot 1019 :)
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18:37 <GodTodd> is that near studio 54?
18:37 <GodTodd> :D
18:37 <Lucifer_arma> they're a band :)
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if I can get them to give us permission to use some of their songs for the game
18:38 <GodTodd> metal band?
18:43 <mkzelda> The FBI is watching you masturbate.
18:43 <Stewie-Arma> you mean they beat you to it?
18:47 <epsy> heh Lucifer_arma we're actually in august, not in july
18:48 <epsy> :)
18:48 <epsy> (fixed)
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> man, I love the internet
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh, thanks epsy :)
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: no, not metal, not really
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> ok, not even close
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> they're a really eccentric surfer band
18:50 <GodTodd> ahhh
18:50 <GodTodd> last album in '90?
18:50 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, i'm wondering, can oops players vote for the MVP ?
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> not just no but HELL NO
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> unless they played on another team
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: something like that.  They have a website
18:51 <Stewie-Arma> many lulz
18:51 <epsy> ok wasn't sure about it
18:51 <GodTodd> yeah..was checking it out
18:51 <GodTodd> :)
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: my kid just took scissors to the last remaining CD of theirs that I had :(
18:51 <mkzelda> i think oops is the mvp of any games they played
18:51 <mkzelda> er, were scheduled
18:51 <GodTodd> check amazon
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> that fucking CD has been through hell and back again with me.  Survived the impound, survived both of the older kids...
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> (no money right now)
18:52  * GodTodd can't find any torrents of them :/
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> what part of "irreplaceable" are they not understanding?
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> even the P2P networks have been pretty thin on them
18:52  * GodTodd has all of his cds backed up on the file server
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> another band that is a metal band that's good, and I'd love to find, is Xentrix
18:52  * GodTodd had to replace too many obscure cds :)
18:53 <mkzelda> When my employees at one job used to irritate me, I'd hand them this giant pair of scissors and tell them to go run with them
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> all I've got is obscure CDs!
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> every CD that was worth money I sold :)
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> (after ripping)
18:53 <GodTodd> i went through the cd selling stage
18:53 <GodTodd> didn't have the ability to rip at the time tho
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, the stage never transformed into a rebuying stage for reasons that should be obvious by now
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> (not money, I *could* squeeze out $20 every couple of months if I really wanted to)
18:54 <GodTodd> ok...xentrix i can find on torrent
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I really want to write this email to the Spot 1019 guy :)
18:54 <GodTodd> so do it :P
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> they're one of my all-time favorite bands :)
19:02 <Vanhayes> you should get slowcoaster songs for arma
19:02 <Vanhayes> just throwing it out there
19:02 <Stewie-Arma> btw how do you start the music on tron...
19:02 <digitx> -.-
19:02 <Stewie-Arma> lol never tried to figure it out
19:03 <Vanhayes> you have to set keys for play pause next and previous track in global keyboard setting
19:03 <spidey> Vanhayes, lies
19:03 <Stewie-Arma> he always does
19:03 <Vanhayes> what am  lying about now?
19:04 <Vanhayes> hmm, there should be an "I" in there
19:04 <spidey> just felt like calling you a liar
19:04 <spidey> :D
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> haha
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> told him I'm after AE "hoping to put a housepet in outer space"
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: liar
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: what Xentrix are you finding?  Just individual songs, or whole records?
19:06 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, counter liar
19:06 <Lucifer_arma> hey, that's the record I've been after!
19:06 <Lucifer_arma> no seeds, though
19:06 <spidey> damn those leechers
19:08 <GodTodd> if you can find ones with seeds, it's whole records
19:09 <Lucifer_arma> besides azureus, what other graphical bt clients are there?
19:10 <spidey> uturrent
19:10 <GodTodd> i use ktorrent
19:11 <spidey> gotorrent ftw
19:11 <spidey> '
19:11 <spidey> -o
19:11 <GodTodd> well...found a seeded "For Whose Advantage" anyway...it'll give me a taste of what they're about :)
19:11 <Lucifer_arma> nvm, found it
19:11 <Lucifer_arma> you did?  link?
19:11  * Lucifer_arma is still installing a client
19:12 <Lucifer_arma> that's kind of funny you said that, since the chorus goes "For whose advantage anyway, this reckless nature you display" etc.
19:12 <GodTodd> haha
19:12 <Lucifer_arma> I had that one on tape, and I loaned it to this chick that never gave it back
19:12 <Lucifer_arma> the same chick that I wrote that THC song about
19:12 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should change the lyrics to reflect that
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> link to the seeded torrent?
19:13 <spidey> really
19:13 <spidey> it don't even have to be seeded
19:14 <GodTodd> hmmm...how do i find the link on ktorrent?
19:14  * spidey has downloaded a movie that had no seeders
19:14 <Lucifer_arma> fuck if I know
19:14 <mkzelda> i use ktorrent but i dont get the question
19:15 <spidey> i want to install slackware 11 on my desktop, but i'm scared it'll fuck over my hdd like last time
19:15 <spidey> :(
19:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's downloading, oddly enough
19:16 <spidey> seeders don't matter
19:16 <Stewie-Arma> lol
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> what are seeders, then?
19:16 <spidey> it just matters that all the parts are floating around among the leechers
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> they're not
19:16 <spidey> you still download off leechers, ya know
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> but there's probably enough to get a few songs at least
19:16 <spidey> how do you know? :)
19:16 <Stewie-Arma> luci seeders are people that have the full download
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> aha, ok
19:16 <spidey> leechers are people that have peices of the download
19:17 <spidey> so, enough leechers = seeders
19:17 <Stewie-Arma> lol
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, this one doesn't have enough, apparently :)
19:17 <GodTodd> ahh...ok mine isn't seeded....i have 9.18%
19:17 <spidey> what are you looking for?
19:17 <GodTodd> waiting for more
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> anything by Xentrix
19:17 <Stewie-Arma> you might want to check the pieces to see if you can get all of them
19:18 <GodTodd> i have the best luck torrenting late at night
19:18 <GodTodd> them damn europeans love free shit ;)
19:18 <Stewie-Arma> there's luck in torrenting?
19:18 <mkzelda> i see 2 different 'for whose advantage' that arent completely seeded :D
19:18 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, how much time you got?
19:19 <Lucifer_arma> all day
19:19 <Lucifer_arma> all night
19:19 <spidey> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3735888/Xentrix_(Thrash_Metal)
19:19 <spidey> 1 seeder and 2 leechers
19:19 <mkzelda> i see that same one, but it says 0 seeds and 4 leechers
19:20 <Stewie-Arma> blech I'm going to die on level 40 of vectortd
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> thanks spidey, opening it right now
19:20 <Stewie-Arma> stupid greys -.-
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> I see 1 seeder and 2 leechers on the site
19:21 <mkzelda> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3670702/Xentrix_-_For_Whose_Advantage_(1990)_UK_Thrash_Metal
19:21 <mkzelda> http://www.btmon.com/Audio/Unsorted/Xentrix_-_For_Whose_Advantage_-_1990_-...torrent.html
19:21 <Lucifer_arma> client won't connect for some reason
19:22 <Lucifer_arma> do I have to kill the first torrent for the second to start?
19:22 <mkzelda> not usually
19:22 <mkzelda> is it unable to contact the tracker
19:22 <spidey> you know
19:22 <Lucifer_arma> torrents are like boiling water, it takes longer if you watch them
19:22 <mkzelda> yep
19:22 <mkzelda> torrents suck for obscure things
19:23 <spidey> http://forumw.org
19:23 <spidey> that load for anyone?
19:23 <spidey> or is my net just being gay again
19:23 <Stewie-Arma> http://btjunkie.org/search?q=xentrix    <--- no seeders shown
19:23 <mkzelda> your internets are not homosexual atm
19:23 <spidey> k
19:24 <mkzelda> omg 1990 was 17 years ago, thats scary
19:24 <spidey> really?
19:24 <spidey> i was born in 89 and i'm 17 O.o
19:24 <mkzelda> ya totally i did 2007 - 1990
19:25 <spidey> mkzelda, liar
19:25 <mkzelda> try it!
19:25 <GodTodd> spidey, what month? :P
19:25 <mkzelda> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Bqs&q=2007+-+1990&btnG=Search
19:26 <mkzelda> see!?
19:26 <GodTodd> apparently that seeder is at work or something :/
19:26 <Stewie-Arma> lol
19:27 <GodTodd> mkzelda: yeah that shit's scary...kind of like when i refer to the "new" metallica to my son (who is a fan :/) and it's the album from 1991
19:27 <GodTodd> heh
19:27 <Lucifer_arma> no spot 1019 on spidey's site
19:29 <Lucifer_arma> man, souls at zero that I don't already have
19:29  * Lucifer_arma wants their self-titled
19:29 <GodTodd> do i have that one?
19:29  * GodTodd thinks.
19:30 <Lucifer_arma> dammit, I have A Taste for the Perverse and Neurosis
19:30 <mkzelda> u can dl it from those russian pay sites
19:30 <mkzelda> for $1.87
19:30 <Lucifer_arma> I need the *other* one, goddamn it!
19:30 <Lucifer_arma> both of my torrents stopped
19:31 <mkzelda> The FBI busted you
19:31 <spidey> haha
19:31 <mkzelda> for whose advantage: $1.87, Kin $2.60, Shattered Existence $2.25, Scourge $1.51, Ghostbusters $0.40
19:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh, 40 cents for ghostbusters
19:31  * Lucifer_arma is pretty sure he has that, found on an opennap server
19:32 <mkzelda> http://www.mp3raid.com/search/mp3/xentrix.html has ghostbusters
19:32 <Lucifer_arma> download it, you'll probably like it :)
19:32 <mkzelda> We strongly suggest you to delete the audio files you downloaded in 24 hours and buy xentrix's album.
19:32 <Lucifer_arma> haha
19:32 <mkzelda> lol, that warning is still around
19:33 <Lucifer_arma> afaik xentrix is out of print
19:33 <mkzelda> i remember pre 2000 you could search yahoo/lycos for mp3s and find tons of pages
19:33 <mkzelda> where u could just download mp3s from tripod/geocities/xoom
19:33 <mkzelda> and they'd always say "Delete within 24 hours"
19:34 <Stewie-Arma> have you guys tried: http://www.metacrawler.com/info.metac/search/audio/xentrix/1/-/1/-/-/-/1/-/-/-/1/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/417/top/-/-/0
19:34 <mkzelda> yea i typed that from memory
19:34 <Stewie-Arma> lol
19:34 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=746  <--- says they're split up now
19:34 <spidey> any ideas how i'd get 9250 drivers installed for ubuntu?
19:35 <mkzelda> via chipset?
19:35 <spidey> didn't have any luck with the binary drivers, or the ones i compiled :(
19:35 <mkzelda> If you have a via chipset, you might as well not try
19:35 <spidey> visiontek
19:35 <Stewie-Arma> xentrix-reasons for destruction...
19:36 <mkzelda> Ive had a couple 9250's, and getting them to work in any machine was a pain ill never attempt again
19:36 <mkzelda> er, in any linux machine
19:36 <mkzelda> ati-drivers + 9250 + linux is bad... all that + via is impossible
19:36 <tramshed> never had problems with linux and via
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19:36 <mkzelda> and ati?
19:37 <tramshed> my old radeon worked fine
19:37 <spidey> what
19:37 <GodTodd> woot xentrix seeder is online :)
19:37 <spidey> wait*
19:37 <tramshed> used to play tron and vendetta and ut on it
19:37 <spidey> you're talking about the 9250 chipset right?
19:37 <GodTodd> was*
19:37 <GodTodd> :/
19:37 <tramshed> this lappy has a radeon as well
19:37 <tramshed> works in gentoo
19:37 <tramshed> not a 9250 though im sure
19:37 <mkzelda> what radeon?
19:37 <tramshed> the one was an AIW something or other
19:37 <tramshed> and this one is an m6 mobility
19:38 <mkzelda> oh
19:38 <mkzelda> i had an AIW 32mb that worked fine w/ linux/via
19:38 <mkzelda> well, after some work
19:38 <mkzelda> but it just wont happen w/ a 9200, 9250
19:38 <tramshed> the old radeons have a kernel driver for them
19:38 <tramshed> the newer ones you use the ati drivers for
19:38 <mkzelda> yeah
19:39 <mkzelda> and u can for the newer radeon chipset use the kernel driver too
19:39 <mkzelda> not as enhanced as ati-drivers,
19:39 <mkzelda> but ati-drivers is a crapshoot
19:40 <tramshed> heh
19:41 <tramshed> what linux you using?
19:41 <mkzelda> gentoo
19:41 <mkzelda> Sysinfo for 'fx-53': Linux 2.6.19-reiser4-r7 running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 at 2400 MHz (4823 bogomips), HD: 667/1209GB, RAM: 1937/2012MB, 96 proc's, 1.20d up
19:41 <tramshed> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
19:41 <mkzelda> yea ive read it all
19:41 <tramshed> what isnt working then
19:41 <mkzelda> i dont use ati anymore
19:41 <tramshed> and what errors are you getting
19:41 <tramshed> oh, heh
19:42 <mkzelda> there are no errors because it freezes the computer solid the second fglrx attempts to be used
19:42 <mkzelda> ive been through 10 or so instances of this, trying to help friends and such, just some hardware combinations will not work
19:43 <mkzelda> ati-drivers are the real issue
19:43 <mkzelda> and via's buggy chipset back in the day
19:43 <mkzelda> hence the 4-in-1's they had to do for windows
19:43 <tramshed> I know thier drivers suck, but Ive always been able to get them to work fine
19:43 <mkzelda> ive gotten them to work on other hardware
19:43 <tramshed> only hardware problem ive actually ever had that I couldnt solve is this f'in laptop
19:43 <mkzelda> i have a 9250 working on an intel d850gb mobo
19:44 <tramshed> it tries to melt itself in gentoo for some reason
19:45 <mkzelda> hehe, too much optimilizations
19:45 <tramshed> nah
19:45 <tramshed> it literally tries to melt itself
19:45 <mkzelda> it was a joke from the -funroll-loops ricers
19:45 <tramshed> it overheats so badly i have to let it sit for about 20 minutes before itll turn back on
19:46 <mkzelda> does it do that even w/o running X?
19:46 <tramshed> anytime I compile or try to play 3d games
19:46 <tramshed> and occasionally just sitting there doing nothing
19:46 <spidey> heatsink/fan not big/powerful enough? :p
19:46 <tramshed> hah
19:47  * tramshed kicks the laptop in the face
19:47 <spidey> my laptop does that sometimes
19:47 <mkzelda> it kicks you in the face?
19:47 <spidey> though i have it sitting directly infront of a airconditioner
19:47 <spidey> no
19:47 <spidey> gets way to hot
19:47 <spidey> and it's only a p3
19:47 <spidey> lol
19:48 <tramshed> this is a p4
19:48 <tramshed> 2.4ghz I think
19:48 <mkzelda> all my p4s get too hot
19:48 <spidey> i would know if the p4 did
19:48 <tramshed> I hope I can get my server back
19:48 <spidey> it has a boxfan on it :D
19:48 <mkzelda> heh, ive done that b4, a box fan on each side
19:48 <mkzelda> one pulling one pushing
19:49 <spidey> heh
19:49 <mkzelda> ive made some interesting cases
19:49 <mkzelda> one was a series of coathangers
19:49 <mkzelda> ive had harddrives supported by rubber bands
19:50 <mkzelda> im sure hte fbi got a good laugh at that
19:50 <tramshed> heh, I had frankencomputer at one point
19:51 <tramshed> it consisted of two towers, 3psus and around 20 drives
19:51 <mkzelda> yeah thats what i had going on in my server the fibi raided
19:51 <tramshed> why did the fbi raid your server?
19:51 <mkzelda> warez
19:51 <tramshed> haha newb
19:51 <mkzelda> i was in the scene
19:51 <mkzelda> it was a topsite
19:52 <tramshed> which one?
19:52 <mkzelda> FON, PUA, and TVX
19:52 <tramshed> heh
19:52 <mkzelda> i ran some others but they didnt get them :D
19:52 <tramshed> topsites are pretty much dead anymore
19:52 <tramshed> its a lot more decentralized nowadays
19:53 <mkzelda> they're still around doing the same thing as b4
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> buttermilk biscuits are the worst bread product to eat eggs over easy with
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> they drown out the taste of the yolk :(
19:53 <tramshed> yeah, but they arnt as important as before
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19:53 <tramshed> back in the 90s topsites were the bomb
19:54 <tramshed> now they are just big
19:54 <mkzelda> affils were ViTE, AEN, TcS, b00zers, VENOM, OUTCAST, MiRACLE, RiOT, ORGASM, ESCAPE, TWCiSO, TWCMP3...
19:54 <spidey> well
19:54 <mkzelda> and i was in most of those groups and some others
19:55 <spidey> since wine can reportedly play all the games i play 90%-100% my only excuse for not using linux for a desktop is that i can't get the 9250 drivers working
19:55 <spidey> xD
19:55 <tramshed> hah
19:55 <tramshed> I used to be into the groups and then realized they arnt actually doing anything anymore
19:55 <tramshed> cept reveling in thier own egos
19:55 <tramshed> that was back in the 90s though
19:56 <mkzelda> i got heavy in it post dec 11 2001 big bust
19:56 <mkzelda> i was in b4 that but i wasnt important until after that bust
19:56 <tramshed> like I said, anymore a topsite isnt anything special
19:56 <mkzelda> cause a bunch of the big guys quit or got busted, and i started getting really good supply
19:56 <tramshed> because its not actually at the top
19:57 <tramshed> a private torrent usually distributes the stuff to the major botnets now and it filters on from there
19:57 <mkzelda> lol, how do you pre then?
19:57 <mkzelda> ah yea we did some of that, easier to 'race'
19:57 <tramshed> the scene has changed a lot
19:58 <mkzelda> prewhoring became obsolete
19:58 <tramshed> the whole click became obsolete
19:58 <tramshed> unless you are actually recording/cracking the stuff you are useless
19:58 <mkzelda> i always asked why we didnt utilize a decentralized, bittorrent style primarily
19:58 <tramshed> most do anymore
19:58 <mkzelda> woulda saved my ass
19:58 <tramshed> then when they got it they pump it into thier botnets
19:58 <mkzelda> the old folk didnt wanna change
19:59 <tramshed> ive seen some crazy ass bots
19:59 <tramshed> there was one on rizon for a while that could pump 20MB/sec
19:59 <mkzelda> my sites could do that
19:59 <mkzelda> in 2002
20:00 <tramshed> and how were you paying for them?
20:00 <mkzelda> i had 50MB/sec
20:00 <mkzelda> 4x100mbit
20:00 <mkzelda> channel bonded
20:00 <mkzelda> abusing .edu
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20:00 <tramshed> ah, the glory of shared lines
20:01 <tramshed> I was using purdue universitys fiber for a while
20:01 <mkzelda> the glory of capped lines, that only i had the secret to uncapping
20:01 <tramshed> hosting a few servers from it
20:01 <mkzelda> so i always got my full 100mbit on every line i used
20:01 <mkzelda> my site would send at 5MB/s to .nl
20:01 <mkzelda> of course coming back from eu to us was only 2-2.5MB/s
20:01 <mkzelda> and i dunno how much thats changed in 4-5 years
20:02 <mkzelda> i used some staff lines too, those went unmonitored
20:02 <tramshed> ive been wanting to test the speed limits I can hit with ipv6
20:02 <mkzelda> and were dedicated
20:02 <tramshed> ive always preferred botnets
20:02 <tramshed> lot harder to trace
20:02 <mkzelda> i had friends at resnet that would let me know if the accounts got flagged
20:03 <tramshed> various speeds, yes but it wont come back to haunt you
20:03 <spidey> lol
20:03 <spidey> botnets would be easy to trace
20:03 <tramshed> to trace the bot yeah, to trace me, no
20:03 <mkzelda> i hid a machine in the wetwall of a college as they were buliding a new facility
20:03 <spidey> you so sure about that?
20:03 <mkzelda> it ran for over a year after i got busted
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> jesus fucking christ
20:04 <spidey> narrow down the lol
20:04 <spidey> 'er
20:04 <spidey> just
20:04 <spidey> lol
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> Steve Harris has been in Iron Maiden since before my wife was born!
20:04 <mkzelda> i had no way to get back to it tho
20:04 <tramshed> im positive
20:04 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, jesus
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20:04 <tramshed> if im uploading to a bot its not coming from me directly
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> luckily he's the only remaining founding member
20:05 <tramshed> or if it has to im using proxychains
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> it'd be different if it were, say, Bruce Dickinson
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> that would make my wife a kid!
20:05 <tramshed> iron maiden pwns
20:05 <spidey> tramshed, you're missing the point
20:05 <spidey> aslong as there's logs, there's allways a way
20:05 <spidey> you'd have to find a once in a chance proxy that doesn't log
20:05 <mkzelda> you dont log those things
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Harris  <--- ok, his daughter's hot
20:05 <tramshed> and how many proxies that dont know they are proxys keep logs
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20:06 <spidey> mkzelda, he's talking about proxies, and not to mention ircnetworks keep logs :p
20:06 <mkzelda> i'd put it in her pooper
20:06 <tramshed> heh spidey, its a whole different world im talking about
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> she'd kick your ass, mkzelda
20:06 <tramshed> im not talking about public proxies
20:06 <mkzelda> FULL FORCE
20:06 <tramshed> im talking about random computers all around the world that dont have any clue they are proxies
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> I'd do her as a surrogate for her father
20:07 <tramshed> you ever use fu mkzelda?
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> it's cool that she got "discovered" on her own
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> you know, that her daddy didn't get her into music and she had to do it on her own
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder what family gettogethers are like, though
20:07 <mkzelda> nah, tho if you're on the same subject, i imagine its like some things i have used
20:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, think you could give me a hand later tonight getting 9250 drivers installed on ubuntu? :D
20:08 <tramshed> fu made software completely undetectable once running
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: unlikely
20:08 <mkzelda> ah yeah
20:08 <spidey> ;(
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: I don't have any clue what you're saying, therefore I probably can't help much
20:08 <tramshed> even fu couldnt find it anymore
20:08 <mkzelda> i've used something like that for some hacked win boxes
20:08 <spidey> ati radeon 9250 drivers
20:08 <tramshed> set up your software to run and fu itself at boot
20:08 <tramshed> then fu the files as well
20:08 <tramshed> and its unremoveable
20:08 <mkzelda> ive put some ftp servers and bncs
20:09 <mkzelda> on some hacked pubs, and used hidewndw for that
20:09 <mkzelda> hides it from the task manager, window does show up, etc
20:09 <tramshed> fu does it much more
20:09 <tramshed> fu hides it from the kernel itself
20:09 <mkzelda> change a few bytes so that norton doesnt recognize the program
20:10 <tramshed> he FU rootkit can hide processes, elevate process privileges, fake out the Windows Event Viewer so that forensics is impossible, and even hide device drivers (NEW!). (Look, Mom, no hands!) It does all this by Direct Kernel Object Manipulation (TM); no hooking! This project has been evolving other time. It was originally conceived as a proof-of-concept. FU is a play on words from the UNIX program "su" used to elevate privilege.
20:10 <tramshed> found it, hehe
20:10 <tramshed> didnt think it would still be in development but it is
20:10 <tramshed> its not actually a rootkit, just helps them out
20:10 <mkzelda> those things always are
20:10 <mkzelda> in development i mean
20:11 <tramshed> nah
20:11 <tramshed> most die off and are replaced by something else
20:11 <mkzelda> yea and their references still say 'in development' 5 years later
20:11 <tramshed> its rare development continues on a single project for more than a year or two
20:11 <mkzelda> thats what i meant
20:11 <tramshed> yeah
20:11 <mkzelda> psybnc heh
20:12 <mkzelda> so out of date
20:12 <mkzelda> and still so buggy
20:12 <mkzelda> whats its successor?
20:12 <tramshed> theres other bncs out there
20:12 <mkzelda> and not some passthru bnc, i mean a session saving one
20:13 <mkzelda> a detachable bnc successor
20:13 <mkzelda> ive been looking for a few years and havent found anything
20:14 <tramshed> ever look on sourceforge?
20:14 <tramshed> they have plenty
20:14 <mkzelda> yea but ive yet to find what i want/like
20:15 <mkzelda> im happy enuf w/ psy that im still using it and know how to workaround the bugs
20:16 <mkzelda> like the fact that the listen socket doesnt close properly at times, and so you wont be able to log back in w/o restarting the process
20:17 <tramshed> you could fix it yourself!
20:17 <tramshed> heh
20:17 <mkzelda> i just wrote a script to check it and restart it
20:17 <mkzelda> western medicine
20:18 <mkzelda> treat the symptoms, not the ailment
20:19 <mkzelda> im out for a bit
20:20 <tramshed> later
20:21 <spidey> <ChanServ> [Draq] You're all fat and your god(s) hate you.
20:21 <spidey> rofl
20:21 <MrBougo> spidey?
20:22 <mkzelda> nexuiz bougo? :D
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> Dickinson was later expelled from Oundle for urinating in the headmaster's dinner.
20:22 <mkzelda> heh
20:22 <spidey> O.O
20:22 <mkzelda> spidey do you play nexuiz?
20:22 <mkzelda> you play everything else
20:23 <spidey> i have played it, yes
20:23 <spidey> warsaw
20:23 <spidey> lots of stuff
20:23 <mkzelda> play me in nexuiz
20:23 <spidey> haven't played it in awhile
20:24 <mkzelda> 1v1 GA ladder server is prolly best ping for us
20:24 <spidey> ok fine, but you have to play me in halo
20:25 <mkzelda> after realizing how much ping makes a difference in nexuiz, i dunno how we all play on euro servers
20:25 <mkzelda> i dont have halo or windows vista
20:25 <spidey> screw both of them :)
20:25 <spidey> halo is for windows xp < btw
20:25 <spidey> 'er
20:25 <spidey> windows xp >
20:25 <mkzelda> oh i was thinking halo 2?
20:25 <spidey> yea
20:25 <mkzelda> i know someone made a patch but i thot i'd bitch
20:25 <spidey> plus i play all kinds
20:26  * digitx is away (bye)
20:26 <spidey> from the crack, to the trial, to the legit game
20:26 <spidey> different crowds in each
20:26 <spidey> kinda fun
20:26 <spidey> i wonder
20:26 <spidey> is it illegal for me to have the halo crack if i own 2 legit copies of the game?
20:27 <mkzelda> yes
20:27 <spidey> ;(
20:27 <spidey> oh wel
20:27 <spidey> l
20:27 <Stewie-Arma> no...
20:27 <Stewie-Arma> hopefully...
20:27 <spidey> ok
20:27 <mkzelda> it doesnt make much sense, but, another example thats even dumber,
20:27 <spidey> i'll play nexuiz if you play tremulous :)
20:28 <mkzelda> if you download an mp3, thats illegal, then if you copy paste it and have "Copy of IllegalSong.mp3" you've now broken it twice
20:28 <spidey> my games folder is getting close to 30gb :/
20:28 <mkzelda> but how the hell u gonna use 2 copies of the same song
20:28 <mkzelda> i installed tremulous
20:28 <mkzelda> tried to play once
20:28 <mkzelda> but i didnt understand it
20:28 <spidey> i can explain :)
20:28 <mkzelda> cool
20:28 <spidey> downloading nexuiz
20:28 <Stewie-Arma> rofl spidey...
20:29 <mkzelda> ive been playing the original diablo lately
20:29 <mkzelda> lol
20:29 <Stewie-Arma> my games folder is about 12gigs
20:29 <spidey> yay
20:29 <mkzelda> my nexuiz folder is about 15gigs
20:29 <mkzelda> heh
20:29 <spidey> 800kb/s and still taking 8 minutes
20:29 <spidey> o.O
20:29 <mkzelda> i record everything
20:29 <spidey> i could get 273mb in 8 minutes on 3mbit!
20:29 <Stewie-Arma> why?
20:30 <spidey> lets see
20:30 <mkzelda> so i can go back and watch it later and learn from it
20:30 <mkzelda> or send pwnage to other ppl
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20:30 <spidey> my biggest folder in \games is 4.45gb
20:30 <mkzelda> or make videos from it (one day)
20:30 <spidey> grand theft auto san andreas
20:30 <spidey> wait
20:30 <spidey> no
20:30 <mkzelda> u use rapidshit a lot right?
20:30 <spidey> \Steam
20:30 <MrBougo> eek
20:30 <spidey> it's over 12 gb
20:31 <spidey> yes, i used rapidshare alot
20:31 <mkzelda> do you pay the nominal fee?
20:31 <spidey> yea
20:31 <mkzelda> ah
20:31 <mkzelda> i wondered
20:31 <Stewie-Arma> I wouldn't pay for rapidshit
20:31 <MrBougo> for RS?
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20:31 <mkzelda> i found something that said how to get around the shit
20:31 <MrBougo> me either, Stewie-Arma
20:31 <mkzelda> but i didnt try it
20:31 <spidey> you can get alot of stuff from rapidshare
20:31 <mkzelda> i found some german clone of rapidshit
20:31 <spidey> MrBougo, wrong
20:31 <mkzelda> that i figured out how to abuse
20:32 <MrBougo> i know spidey
20:32 <MrBougo> i'm exxagerating a lot :)
20:32 <mkzelda> and not have to click every damn thing once at a time
20:32 <MrBougo> theres that premium zone
20:32 <MrBougo> remute upload
20:32 <MrBougo> remote*
20:32 <spidey> yea
20:32 <MrBougo> alt servers
20:32 <spidey> rapidget
20:32 <spidey> is what i use
20:32 <MrBougo> crap
20:32 <spidey> copy/paste links
20:32 <MrBougo> that client?
20:32 <spidey> voila
20:32 <MrBougo> c/p links? chats that
20:32 <MrBougo> whats*
20:32 <spidey> ...
20:32 <spidey> rapidget is a client so you can copy/paste alot of links and download them all at once
20:32 <MrBougo> seriously
20:32 <mkzelda> copypasta
20:33 <MrBougo> oh ok
20:33 <spidey> so you don't have to use firefox every single time
20:33 <spidey> that gets annoying
20:33 <MrBougo> indeed
20:33 <mkzelda> i use wget/curl anyhow
20:33 <Stewie-Arma> mkzelda are you from the internets?
20:33 <MrBougo> you can have unlimited dl's with RS premium
20:33 <MrBougo> i can too!
20:33 <MrBougo> dynami ip roxx :D
20:33 <Stewie-Arma> >:3
20:33 <mkzelda> yeah, i was born here
20:33 <spidey> ...
20:33 <spidey> rebooting the modem after every download is retarded :p
20:33 <mkzelda> yes
20:33 <spidey> mkzelda, 3 minutes
20:34 <mkzelda> k
20:34 <mkzelda> u get the extra mappack?
20:34 <mkzelda> :D
20:34 <spidey> no
20:34 <MrBougo> either
20:34 <Stewie-Arma> there's an extra mappack?
20:34 <MrBougo> yup
20:34 <MrBougo> with nexuiz
20:34 <spidey> it's downloading now
20:34 <mkzelda> yea, has all the quake remakes and stuff
20:34 <spidey> 4 minutes
20:34 <MrBougo> why would i download a pack i dont need
20:34 <MrBougo> i only plkay online
20:34 <MrBougo> and these servs dont use maps from the pack
20:34 <mkzelda> b/c those maps are used on most online servers
20:34 <spidey> now i'm downloading at 1,000kb/s
20:34 <spidey> O.O
20:34 <MrBougo> RBI ctf roxx
20:35 <MrBougo> my fave serv
20:35 <mkzelda> RBI uses a lot of those maps
20:35 <MrBougo> 16 players max
20:35 <MrBougo> does it?
20:35 <mkzelda> yes
20:35 <MrBougo> oh lol
20:35 <Stewie-Arma> I hate having 5mb/s shared -.-
20:35 <MrBougo> bah, i downthemall
20:35 <MrBougo> eek Stewie-Arma
20:35 <mkzelda> RBI has more maps then most anywhere
20:35 <MrBougo> shared :x
20:35 <mkzelda> i host a nexuiz repository
20:35 <Stewie-Arma> cause right now my brother is downloading shit too
20:35 <MrBougo> do you?
20:35 <mkzelda> so you're welcome to rape it one day
20:35 <MrBougo> lol
20:36 <Stewie-Arma> MrBougo: it's a family of 4
20:36 <spidey> http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2605/wootsf4.jpg
20:36 <spidey> keep in mind i only pay for 6mbit
20:36 <MrBougo> ack
20:36 <MrBougo> with 4 computers, Stewie-Arma ?
20:37 <mkzelda> you're the first ive seen use xchat in windows
20:37 <Stewie-Arma> actually there are 6 computers
20:37 <MrBougo> oh, i noticed a typo on your screen spidey
20:37 <MrBougo> thankl you
20:37 <MrBougo> i meant play
20:37 <MrBougo> not plkay
20:37 <spidey> rofl
20:37 <Stewie-Arma> and 4 external HDs ;P
20:37 <MrBougo> and tyhank too
20:37 <MrBougo> thankl
20:37 <MrBougo> thank
20:37 <MrBougo> fuckl
20:37 <MrBougo> crap
20:37 <MrBougo> i blame my lkeyboard
20:38 <MrBougo> ...
20:38 <Stewie-Arma> your one keyboard?
20:38 <spidey> rofl
20:38 <MrBougo> nah, it's a L
20:38 <MrBougo> damn L
20:38 <MrBougo> we dont need you
20:38 <Stewie-Arma> I'M CALLING IT A 1 THANK YOU!
20:38 <MrBougo> this sentence doesnt have any
20:38 <MrBougo> it's useless
20:38 <MrBougo> oh crap
20:38 <MrBougo> i meant its useess
20:38 <MrBougo> now it isnt anymore
20:39 <Stewie-Arma> woot downloading at 900
20:39 <mkzelda> FUCK OFF ALDARIS
20:39 <spidey> 14 seconds
20:39 <MrBougo> woot
20:39 <mkzelda> I dont need any additional pylons.
20:39 <MrBougo> ima nex
20:39 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037
20:39 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 74.1°F (11:39 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling).
20:39 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
20:39 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 101.7°F (2:44 PM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
20:39 <spidey> #weather 38256
20:39 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 97.7°F (1:44 PM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling).
20:39 <mkzelda> im still full of win here
20:39 <Stewie-Arma> >:3
20:40 <mkzelda> excessive heat warning eh?
20:40 <mkzelda> thank captain obvious of the meteorilogical society
20:40 <spidey> lol
20:41 <mkzelda> i walked outside and figured that one out
20:41 <mkzelda> my a/c cant keep up
20:41 <Stewie-Arma> mkzelda you failed the test...
20:41 <mkzelda> i set it at 78, and its 83
20:41 <mkzelda> runs all day
20:42 <mkzelda> oraleigh?
20:42 <spidey> ok
20:42 <spidey> done
20:42 <spidey> now i have to wait for my brother to finish uploading
20:42 <mkzelda> start the game up and find 1v1 GA ladder server
20:42 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
20:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 93.9°F (1:45 PM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
20:42 <Stewie-Arma> aww seems to be warming up just a little bit there luci
20:42 <Lucifer_arma> oh fuck, I forgot to weigh myself this morning
20:43 <Stewie-Arma> lol planning to sweat off some weight?
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah :)
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> was about to go jump on the trampoline out there
20:43 <Stewie-Arma> lol
20:43 <MrBougo> dont forget to put it in the garden
20:43 <Stewie-Arma> it doesn't seem to be to hot out there, you need a sauna dude
20:43 <MrBougo> trampoline inside can give headaches
20:43 <mkzelda> spidey: i cant alt tab out of nexuiz like windows users can
20:43 <MrBougo> and it's not about oxygen or stuff
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> neither of my torrents are going anymore :(
20:44 <mkzelda> so ill stay here till i know u've found the server
20:44 <Stewie-Arma> zelda do you use linux?
20:44 <mkzelda> yes
20:44 <Stewie-Arma> lol luci my one torrent is going at 180
20:44 <mkzelda> gentoo for about 5 years now
20:44 <Stewie-Arma> I used to have a linux box
20:44 <Stewie-Arma> but then my brother fucked it up
20:44 <Lucifer_arma> what port does bittorrent use?
20:45 <Stewie-Arma> you set it
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> default, dumbass
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> :)
20:45 <Stewie-Arma> my default was 9090
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> (If I haven't set a port, then I'm using the default....)
20:45 <MrBougo> i'm on galt's gulch CTF
20:45 <MrBougo> if someone wanna join :)
20:45 <mkzelda> default w/o specifying in a client is 6881
20:46 <MrBougo> 3 places free
20:46 <mkzelda> ill join galts then
20:46 <mkzelda> cya there
20:46 <Stewie-Arma> still got 3 minutes
20:46 <mkzelda> i run a server too btw, but upstream only supports 4 players excluding me
20:46 <spidey> mkzelda, i don't see it
20:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, opening the port seems to have kicked off more downloading
20:49 <Lucifer_arma> what do the colors on the bar mean?
20:49 <spidey> green = good
20:49 <spidey> yellow = decent
20:49 <spidey> red = bad
20:49 <spidey> i think, depends on the client
20:49 <mkzelda> sometimes if you recontact the tracker you can pick up more clients
20:49 <spidey> mkzelda, server?
20:50 <spidey> can't find it
20:50 <Lucifer_arma> standard client
20:50 <mkzelda> i havent used 'mainline' in years Lucifer_ i dunno
20:50 <mkzelda> spidey: try connect mkzelda.mkzelda.com
20:50 <Lucifer_arma> I was wondering because I thought red meant "what you haven't downloaded yet", but turns out it only meant "not available yet"
20:50 <spidey> how?
20:50 <mkzelda> press shift+esc on title screen
20:50 <mkzelda> to open console
20:50 <mkzelda> then type connect mkzelda.mkzelda.com
20:50 <Lucifer_arma> I'm guessing someone was setup to not share to people not sharing, and when I opened the port that made it possible for me to share
20:51 <mkzelda> u may not be able to connect, my power went out and i havent had a chance to fix everything
20:51 <spidey> failed
20:51 <mkzelda> k
20:51 <mkzelda> u dont see something that has 1v1 GA ladder or NY ladder?
20:51 <mkzelda> in the list of servers
20:51 <spidey> no
20:52 <mkzelda> try connect
20:52 <spidey> cani copy/paste?
20:52 <mkzelda> i dunno
20:52 <spidey> ;/
20:52 <mkzelda> i give u permission
20:53 <mkzelda> lol i joined gaults gulch, went on a 5 kill spree and capped the flag, and quit
20:53 <mkzelda> Mr. Bougo's 3 kill spree was ended by Winston
20:54 <spidey> worked
20:54 <spidey> you can copy/paste
20:54 <spidey> btw
20:54 <mkzelda> k ill join u there
20:54 <spidey> is this onyour home connection?
20:54 <spidey> 49 ping ftw
20:54 <mkzelda> you'd get lower if it were my connection :D
20:59 <mkzelda> lemme see why my server isnt workin
21:00 <spidey> fixed my laggy thingy
21:00 <mkzelda> oh my ip changed when power went out
21:00 <spidey> lowered my gfx settings
21:00 <spidey> now it feels smooth
21:00 <mkzelda> connect
21:00 <mkzelda> see what your ping is there
21:01 <mkzelda> sorry i forgot to turn server on at first heh, its up now
21:01 <spidey> k
21:01 <spidey> coming
21:02 <mkzelda> on this server i can see when you join
21:03 <mkzelda> there u are
21:07 <MrBougo> mkzelda?
21:07 <MrBougo> did you leave?
21:26 <epsy> #m wrtlprnft There's one thing i don't like in your cockpit file: rubber and impact meter should be on the same side...it's hard otherwise for gheygit attacks ;P
21:26 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:28 <epsy> hoop_tron, ?
21:28 <hoop_tron> epsy: ?
21:28 <epsy> don't /part #tards ... a channel is made for ppl to go in ;P
21:29 <hoop_tron>  /part ?
21:29 <epsy> that's the cmd to leave a channel
21:29 <hoop_tron> ooo
21:29 <hoop_tron> nobody there, tackng a nap
21:29 <epsy> there's me and a bot
21:29 <epsy> (meh)
21:30 <epsy> huhu i feel so alone
21:30 <hoop_tron> nice game for who like programming ===> cyty.com/robocom/
21:31  * epsy *will cry*
21:31 <epsy>  /lastseen/+f-Monkey
21:31 <epsy> erf
21:32 <epsy> #lastseen -f Monkey
21:32 <hoop_tron> :,(
21:32 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 6 minutes ago.
21:32 <epsy> )': :,(
21:34 <epsy> hmm i'm in the top 10 already
21:34 <epsy> hmm toasty toasty
21:35 <epsy> #q
21:35 <armabot> epsy: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
21:35 <epsy> #armalogs
21:35 <epsy> ;P
21:36 <epsy> #armaservers
21:36 <armabot> epsy: This data is 56 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (9/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), Wild West  =Wild Fortress= (8/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Wild West  =Wild (2 more messages)
21:36 <MrBougo> bye
21:36 <epsy> cu
21:36 <epsy> #more
21:36 <epsy> #more
21:36 <armabot> epsy: Fortress= (8/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (8/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), Strawberry Fields (7/16), Strawberry Fields (6/16), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (5/8), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5/12), .[Ak4]. Clan Server (4/4), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (4/12), .[Ak4]. Clan Server (4/4), SPACEZONE III (1 more message)
21:36 <armabot> epsy: TEAM PLAY (3/15), Wildcat (3/16), Server.iZm (3/8), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (3/15), Wildcat (3/16), G-Land (2/8), G-Land (2/8), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (1/16), Super Duck Nano Fortress! (1/14), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (1/6), Super Duck Nano Fortress! (1/14)
21:37 <epsy> fortress is getting damn sick :/
21:40 <MrBougo> night
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21:52  * spidey notes out of all the games he's played
21:52 <spidey> that's the first time he's had his ass kicked that bad
21:52 <mkzelda> haha
21:52 <mkzelda> i was holding back, honestly
21:53 <mkzelda> i was throwin guns at you and killing w/ laserz
21:53 <spidey> lol
21:53 <mkzelda> ive been playing that game since june 20
21:54 <mkzelda> and i wasnt ever that good at FPS games on computer cause i had no mouse aim
21:54 <luke-jr> and cuz u just plain suck
21:54 <mkzelda> if i had to play someone in halo on xbox or goldeneye on n64
21:54 <spidey> your momma
21:54 <spidey> t@luke
21:54 <spidey> -t
21:54 <mkzelda> u wanna play luke?
21:54 <spidey> he can't even play tremulous
21:54 <spidey> heh
21:55 <mkzelda> physically, mentally, or his pc sucks or what?
21:55 <spidey> none of the above
21:55 <spidey> he just plan sucks
21:55 <mkzelda> oh
21:55 <mkzelda> so its the pot calling the kettle black
21:55 <spidey> got 3 people in a game
21:55 <spidey> forgot who
21:55 <spidey> from here
21:55 <spidey> they got served :p
21:55 <spidey> them vs me :o
21:55 <mkzelda> i spectated a few games of that
21:55 <mkzelda> i didnt understand it
21:56 <spidey> well
21:56 <spidey> it's a mix of fps and rts
21:56 <mkzelda> seemed like a lot of strategy
21:56 <spidey> basically you need builders
21:56 <spidey> and attackers
21:56 <spidey> and defenders
21:56 <spidey> or
21:56 <spidey> if you have a decent team
21:56 <spidey> you can get away with no builders/defenders
21:56 <mkzelda> its got 2 races and they work different?
21:57 <spidey> sorta
21:57 <spidey> for each thing one team has, the other team has something to counter it
21:57 <spidey> the aliens most powerful alien > tyrant
21:57 <spidey> 400hp
21:57 <spidey> kills bare humans in 1 swipe
21:57 <spidey> humans counter > battlesuits and lucifer cannons
21:57 <spidey> luci cannons kill rants in 2 hits at full charge
21:57 <luke-jr> mkzelda: no, you just suck :P
21:57 <luke-jr> period
21:58 <spidey> luke-jr, your momma
21:58 <luke-jr> jk btw
21:59 <spidey> mkzelda, i would setup a private server and teach ya how to play
21:59 <spidey> but i'd have to forward ports which means restarting the iprouting on the modem, because it's gay
21:59 <mkzelda> but...?
21:59 <spidey> and the public servers we have are always full
22:00 <mkzelda> you have to turn it on
22:00 <spidey> if you don't mind playing with alot of other people, i'll teach ya :)
22:00 <mkzelda> cause its gay
22:00 <spidey> lol
22:01 <spidey> you mind playing with about 20 others?
22:02 <spidey> both servers have 20 people in them
22:02 <spidey> lol
22:02 <mkzelda> i dont wanna be the noob that has someone explaining everything in front of 20 others
22:02 <spidey> rofl
22:02 <spidey> well
22:02 <spidey> there's private message, though i don't feel like using all that
22:02 <spidey> so
22:03 <spidey> you have teamspeak installed?
22:03 <spidey> it could be worse ya know
22:03 <spidey> you could be the noob that has 20 people bitching at them for fucking up the whole team :p
22:04 <spidey> which we have alot of, but people think a kickvote is needed, -.-
22:04 <mkzelda> i have teamspeak but i havent used it in months
22:04 <mkzelda> dunno if its still good
22:04 <spidey> try to connect to teamspeak.antric.net
22:04 <mkzelda> it took some time to get the mic levels good
22:04 <spidey> heh
22:05 <spidey> 2 slots left in the regular gameplay server ;(
22:05 <spidey> er
22:05 <spidey> now it's full
22:05 <mkzelda> i can run a server i suppose
22:05 <spidey> that'll work :)
22:05 <spidey> though
22:06 <spidey> i'll warn, if you run a serve ron the same pc, it'll lag pretty bad
22:06 <spidey> i used to have to run one on my local server
22:06 <mkzelda> nah i have another computer for that
22:06 <mkzelda> i just have to install it
22:07 <spidey> actually
22:07 <spidey> hm
22:07 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm
22:08 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/tremstats/fa/index.php
22:08 <mkzelda> does the server run from the client?
22:08 <spidey> :D
22:08 <mkzelda> or can i start it
22:08 <mkzelda> w/o
22:08 <spidey> erm
22:08 <mkzelda> dedicated
22:09 <spidey> can you connect to teamspeak?
22:09 <mkzelda> oh i got distracted by running a server
22:09 <spidey> lol
22:09 <spidey> it's a bit more complicated than just starting a server
22:10 <spidey> i run the backport client, which uses a different protocol than the standard client
22:10 <spidey> so i couldn't connect
22:10 <mkzelda> cheater
22:10 <spidey> ?
22:10 <mkzelda> u see me on teamspeak?
22:11 <spidey> yea
22:11 <spidey> hear me?
22:11 <mkzelda> test again
22:11 <mkzelda> yeah
22:11 <mkzelda> you sound like you caught the gay from your modem
22:11 <mkzelda> :D
22:11 <spidey> ....
22:11 <spidey> :(
22:11 <spidey> O.o
22:17 -!- HellBlade-Arma [n=HellBlad@cpe-72-130-168-207.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
22:18 <HellBlade-Arma> hmm it still recognizes me as here
22:19 <HellBlade-Arma> question: for tremulous is the zip download there for mac?
22:19 <HellBlade-Arma> nvm
22:20 <HellBlade-Arma> I found it
22:23 <epsy> hay
22:24 -!- Stewie-Arma [n=HellBlad@cpe-72-130-168-207.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:24 <HellBlade-Arma> hay!
22:30 <epsy> =)
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22:53 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
22:53 <mkzelda> i still dont understand that game
22:54 <mkzelda> i didnt have sound cause teamspeak stole it
22:58 <spidey> lol
23:05 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
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23:09 <Rebel_Eclipsed> luke-jr,  you there?
23:10 <spidey> he died
23:10 <Rebel_Eclipsed> The Eclipse'd Server is listing twice... how do I fix it... or is that server side?
23:10 <spidey> all his hosting r belong to us
23:10 <Rebel_Eclipsed> hey Spidey...
23:10 <spidey> #weather 38256
23:11 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Dover, TN - LBL, Dover, Tennessee is 98.4°F (4:15 PM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling).
23:11 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Spidey from |FA| ?
23:11 <spidey> yea
23:11 <Rebel_Eclipsed> cool set of servers your Clan has
23:11 <spidey> imagen compiling them all
23:11 <Rebel_Eclipsed> the river one doesn't make sense.. but will take time to get used to
23:11 <spidey> and restarting them every weak because the sty patch has a leak, heh
23:12 -!- tronner [n=CT@ecb60.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Connection timed out]
23:12 <Rebel_Eclipsed> that would suck
23:12 <spidey> al made those configs
23:12 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Yeah he mentioned that
23:12 <spidey> the server listing twice?
23:12 <spidey> well
23:13 <Rebel_Eclipsed> something to worry about?
23:13 <spidey> that's not really it listing twice i think, i think it's 2 servers running
23:13 <spidey> happened to me when i had a server with luke
23:13 <Rebel_Eclipsed> hmm shouldn't be.. I only pay Luke for one
23:13 <spidey> yea
23:13 <spidey> probably a bug in his perfect sudo library
23:13 <spidey> :D
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I see =D
23:14 <spidey>   are you the rebel...
23:14 <spidey> erm
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> You use Linux?
23:14 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-67-67-219-75.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
23:14 <spidey> xlz rebel?
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> GridPirate
23:14 <spidey> o
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> y'know the evil baddy
23:14 <luke-jr> ?
23:14 <spidey> yea i use linux some
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Hey Luke...
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Eclipse'd is listing twice
23:15 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit ["leaving"]
23:15 <luke-jr> not anymore
23:15 <spidey> heh
23:15 <spidey> told ya :D
23:15 <spidey> luke-jr, i'm sending a hitman after you
23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> saw this Linux comic...
23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> "Make me a sandwhich"
23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> "no way!"
23:16 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-67-67-219-75.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> "sudo make me a sandwich"
23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> "ok"
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23:28 -!- HellBlade-Arma is now known as Stewie-arma
23:39 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
23:39 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 97.2°F (5:43 PM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> fuck me
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> that sucks
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> torrents had to start over because BITTORRENT IS STUPID
23:48 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
23:48 <spidey> what's the name of the band?
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> xentrix
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> I got it restarted, with the same urls and files and shit
23:50 <spidey> xentrix
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> I had to move the temporary directory off a partition because it ran out of space
23:50 <spidey> found that album
23:51 <spidey> on rapidshare
23:51 <spidey> er
23:51 <spidey> Xentrix - Ghostbusters Ep Rare Banned OOP Classic brit Metal
23:51 <spidey> that album
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> so when it restarted, for some reason it wouldn't use the same stuff it already had
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> get it?  ;)
23:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I'm sorry that spidey raped your wife.
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> I can give you a ssh account on my machine and you can scp it there whenever it's done ;)
23:51 <spidey> only 3 songs
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's small
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> it was suppressed because of their use of the ghostbusters logo on the cover art
23:52 <spidey> should only take 2 minutes to download
23:52 <spidey> <3 800+kb/s
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> :)
23:52 <spidey> 20 seconds
23:52 <spidey> lol
23:52 <spidey> 12mb
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> does the peer list include me?
23:53 <spidey> well
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> ah hell, you could send them via irc
23:53 <spidey> those lists are updated every so often
23:53 <spidey> so if you just joined, you might not be on there
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> so it should include me?
23:53 <spidey> "should"
23:53 <spidey> you mean the tracker peer list?
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> so it says "3 peers", but it means "me + 2 others"?
23:53 <spidey> oh
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> no, the one in my client
23:53 <spidey> no those are peers you're connected to
23:53 <spidey> if it says something like
23:54 <spidey> 2(50)
23:54 <spidey> that means there's 50 peers
23:54 <spidey> and you're connected to 2 of them
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm connected to 2
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> got it
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> only says 3, and they're probably the only 3 fans of this band in existence
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, besides me
23:55 <spidey> spidey
23:55 <spidey> you getthat dcc request?
23:57 <GodTodd> oh...in case luke forgot he's ignored: [2007-08-10 16:56] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I'm sorry that spidey raped your wife.
23:57 <GodTodd> :)
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> er, did not
23:57 <spidey> ;/
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> (that was to spidey, not luke)
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> (I doubt spidey could successfully rape my wife)
23:58 <spidey> nor would i want to
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> (she's not one of those wussy catholic girls, don't forget)
23:58 <spidey> i've got lukes wife for that
23:59 <GodTodd> 'nor would i want to' could be taken as an insult of her hotness
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> did you get my dcc request?
23:59 <spidey> yea
23:59 <GodTodd> have her kick his butt Lucifer_arma :)
23:59 <spidey> sec
23:59 <spidey> spidey
23:59  * Lucifer_arma notes there's no reason he should give a fuck if anybody else is attracted to his wife
23:59 <spidey> giget that one?

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