Log from 2007-08-07:
--- Day changed Tue Aug 07 2007
00:00 -!- luke-jr| is now known as luke-jr_
00:00 <digitx> ty no
00:00 <digitx> epsy, bad
00:00 <digitx> luke-jr_, bad xD
00:00 <luke-jr_> digitx: hungary
00:00 <digitx> bad hungary!
00:00 <epsy> digitx, hungary
00:00 <digitx> luke
00:00 <digitx> karlsruhe?
00:00 <digitx> :
00:00 <digitx> :P
00:01 <digitx> u know who is Ben Scholzen ?
00:01 <epsy> #google Ben Scholzen
00:01 <armabot> epsy: Search took 0.07 seconds: DASPRiD's: Information about DASPRiD: <http://www.dasprids.de/about>; DASPRiD's: Latest news about me and my projects: <http://www.dasprids.de/>; www.cyclingnews.com - the world centre of cycling: <http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2007/jun07/tourofohio07/tourofohio076>; www.cyclingnews.com - the world centre of cycling: (2 more messages)
00:01 <digitx> xD
00:01 <epsy> now i do
00:01 <digitx> ...
00:01 <digitx> u saw him?
00:02 <epsy> i played with him -_-
00:02 <digitx> me too
00:02 <digitx> ..
00:02 <epsy> on derelict's benmachine XD
00:02 <epsy> harr that mod is fun :P
00:02 <digitx> benmachine?
00:02 <digitx> :D
00:02 <digitx> jea
00:02 <digitx> fun
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00:52 <epsy> .let's split this
00:53 <epsy> ...or not
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00:57 * noob7 rings the # bell
00:57 <epsy> gaston!!!
00:57 <noob7> I am not serving you :p
00:57 <epsy> :D
00:57 <noob7> what's cracking epsy?
00:58 * Lucifer_arma cracks epsy
00:58 <epsy> and drunkadrukaland is still down due to cpu usage exceeds...thanks phpBB
00:58 <noob7> quick thinking
00:58 <noob7> is dorka out of time or what?
00:59 <noob7> erm town
00:59 <epsy> well, drunka disappeared as well lol
00:59 <noob7> :D
00:59 <epsy> what a stupid world
01:00 <noob7> did you ever try logging into that bnc epsy? I removed it after it spammed my sBNC console window with stupid crap
01:00 * epsy considers sleeping
01:00 <epsy> ah ?
01:00 <noob7> no sleep till brooklyn for me
01:00 <epsy> no i still didn't :/
01:01 <epsy> i should look how to use one xD
01:01 <noob7> maybe we can work this out tomorrow, I'm not going to keep you from sleeping
01:01 <epsy> ok
01:01 * epsy looks how lazy he is
01:01 <noob7> deal
01:02 <epsy> with ?
01:02 <noob7> the devil
01:02 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, can i deal something with you ?
01:02 <noob7> crack preferably
01:02 <epsy> i need some crack
01:02 <noob7> that's what I was refering to
01:03 <noob7> then we can also answer the question "what's cracking"
01:03 <noob7> meh
01:03 * epsy looks for ##php chatlogs
01:03 <noob7> good night epsy :D
01:04 <epsy> #time
01:04 <armabot> epsy: 01:08 AM, August 07, 2007
01:07 <epsy> 02:00 <****> so PHP basically ran into an infinite recursion loop?
01:07 <epsy> 02:00 <****> so THAAATS why it sucks!
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01:09 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: what?
01:10 <epsy> 01:58 <****> what does PHP mean? does it mean "Programmers Hate Php"?
01:10 <epsy> 01:58 <****> no
01:10 <epsy> 01:59 <****> it's an infinatly recursive thing
01:10 <epsy> 01:59 <****> php hypertext proccessor
01:10 <epsy> 01:59 <****> and that php means the same thing
01:10 <epsy> 01:59 <****> over and over and over
01:10 <epsy> 02:00 <****> so PHP basically ran into an infinite recursion loop?
01:10 <epsy> 02:00 <****> so THAAATS why it sucks!
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> er, is that what you wanted to "deal" with me?
01:10 <epsy> ah
01:10 <epsy> maybe not then
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:10 <|Sticky|> like gnu's no unix
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> what does GNU mean?
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> LAME?
01:10 <epsy> seems i'm already on crack
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> WINE?
01:11 <|Sticky|> lame an mp3 encoder
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> recursive acronyms are a staple of open source software :)
01:11 <epsy> php hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proc
01:11 <epsy> cessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor
01:11 <epsy> i wish irc were recusrive
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> irc relay chat isn't recursive?
01:12 <epsy> ah it is
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> :P (yes, I know what the I really means)
01:12 <epsy> irc relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> see, I don't like recursive acronyms, which is why ACME stands for "Armagetron Advanced Resource Editor"
01:13 <epsy> well, it wouldn't have been good as ACME Advanced REsource Editor
01:13 <|Sticky|> Unix is Not unIX
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> much better than that recursive crap
01:14 <epsy> MBTTRC is better than that recursive crap
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> and if I ever get it usable, maybe it'll start a new meme, eh? ;)
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> #cyborg acme
01:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: A.C.M.E.: Artificial Construct Manufactured for Exploration
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> am I the only one that thinks "exploration" is an erotic word?
01:15 <|Sticky|> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Linux
01:16 <epsy> http://images1.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/6/6c/Bouncywikilogo.gif/60px-Bouncywikilogo.gif
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's funny how everything is expanded to ____ is not unix
01:17 <epsy> Lucifer_arma is the guard against recursion crap
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> Rumour has it there is even a "3" in development.
01:21 <|Sticky|> http://www.linuxsucks.org/ fantastic site
01:22 <|Sticky|> also: http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/ one of the funniest sites ive ever read
01:22 <epsy> http://ie7.com/
01:23 <|Sticky|> "According to an independent study conducted by some scientists, many users of Linux are running non-Genuine versions of their operating system"
01:23 <|Sticky|> heh
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> Linux® is being criticized by animal rights activists, because each Linux® machine needs a real living penguin within the machine's case (for cooling reasons).
01:24 <epsy> « Plus, if you act now, we promise not to launch unfounded lawsuits against you »
01:24 <epsy> « (possibly by using other smaller companies as pawns) »
01:24 <|Sticky|> epsy: it is a real product that will actualy disable your copy of linux
01:24 <epsy> « LATEST NEWS:
01:24 <epsy> Linux Genuine Advantage™ has been cracked by computer hackers!
01:24 <epsy> Rather than improving our software, we'll be sending our team of intimidating lawyers to pay them a visit. »
01:26 <epsy> print "To benefit from the Advantage of Genuine Linux, you must fill out this form\n";
01:26 <epsy> print "and send this information, along with your yearly subscription payment*, to\n";
01:26 <epsy> print "http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/\n";
01:26 <epsy> print "First Name: ________________________________________________________\n";
01:26 <epsy> xD
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> “My uber kung-fu skills”
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> ~ RMS on RMS' Uber Kung-Fu skills
01:28 <epsy> Q: What is that bird in the photos, and why did you choose it?
01:29 <epsy> cu i'm off
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Richard_M_Stallman_Vs._Linus_Torvalds
01:32 <epsy> Now Playing: gorillaz - fire coming out of the monkeys head
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Rick_James_Version_of_the_Bible
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> (1:5) And God called da light ‘crackers’, and da blackness he called ‘brudas’, and dat’s how it bizz fum day one, bitch. Lop some boogie.
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> # I be da damn LORD, bitch, who brought y'all niggas asses out da land uh Egypt t'be yo' God.
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> Duzn't ya' fuckin' swear by mah' dojigger in vain. 'S coo', bro, ah' ain't gonna hold dem fuckas innocent who put swears next t'my dojigger.
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> You's best not cheatin' on yo' bitches wit' some greasy, nasty-ass hoes.
01:38 <epsy> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Your_mom
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> # You's best not covet yo neighbo's crib, ya' best not covet yo' neighbour's bitch - no matta' how damn fine she be - no' dey gimp, no' dey ho, no' dey ox, no' dey ass, no' any damn doodad dat be yo' neighbo's, and ya' best not be doin' 'em, eider. Ah be baaad...
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> the RJV page has a translation of Armaments :)
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01:40 <|Sticky|> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Tron
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> Augmented boobs have also been part of a successful military project. WMD's (Weapons of Mass Distraction)have been effectively used in The War on Tourism
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> An interesting point to note is that deep down inside, everybody loves boobs - men, women and children (except gays and the occasional catholic).
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> Boobs and lesbians are a fundamental part of human life. If they did not exist, it is estimated that 9,999,999 million people per second would actually die of disappointment; thus leading to the extinction of the human race.
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> Studies have shown that 4/3 of people who stare at boobs have problems with fractions.
02:07 <Lucifer_arma> Flat Chests are the bane of manhood as we currently know it. While nobody focuses on tiny human female breasts any longer, it should be also noted that male humans also have flat chests (although usually less prominent) and are born with two main milk ducts intact. Historically speaking, males are annoyed with this, owing to the fact that they cannot stay at home and play with them constantly.
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02:42 <spidey> please note
02:43 <spidey> if i'm not back in a few hours
02:43 <digitx> :)
02:43 <spidey> it's because i pushed my brother down the stairs with the a/c ontop of him
02:43 <spidey> :D
02:43 <digitx> xD
02:43 <digitx> spidi
02:43 <digitx> nub
02:43 <digitx> xD
02:43 <spidey> lol
02:43 <spidey> we're moving everything
02:43 <digitx> how are u?
02:43 <digitx> answer
02:43 <spidey> from upstairs to downstairs
02:43 <digitx> :p
02:43 <spidey> and stuff downstairs to other rooms
02:43 <spidey> talking about a job...
02:44 <digitx> .
02:44 <spidey> 2 king size beds
02:44 <digitx> luke-jr_, bad
02:44 <spidey> 2 twin beds
02:44 <spidey> all the pc crap
02:44 <digitx> spidey?
02:44 <digitx> spidey?
02:44 <digitx> spidey?
02:44 <digitx> u talking with ... ?
02:44 <digitx> :D
02:44 <spidey> me myself and i
02:44 <digitx> xD
02:44 <spidey> bbl
02:45 <digitx> bbbb
03:31 * digitx is away (bye)
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05:26 <luke-jr_> digitx: hungary
05:59 <GodTodd> only if he hasn't eaten
06:50 * Lucifer_arma eats digitx
06:52 <luke-jr_> [23:04:13] <GodTodd> only if he hasn't been eaten
06:55 <GodTodd> [2007-08-06 22:30] <luke-jr_> digitx: sorry i'm a moron
07:10 <GodTodd> [2007-08-06 22:30] <luke-jr_> darwin is my god
07:58 * Lucifer_arma wonders what kind of idiot would worship, as a god, a man who quite clearly was not a god
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_6552759
08:10 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: Christians? :)
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> :)
08:11 <GodTodd> hrmm...test over series and sequences tomorrow :/
08:11 <GodTodd> err...today now i guess
08:11 <GodTodd> heh
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> have fun with that :)
08:13 * Lucifer_arma got a 69 or something on his series and sequences test
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> so did y'all do vector valued functions at all? multivariable?
08:14 <GodTodd> dunno
08:14 <GodTodd> what would be an example?
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> f(x,y) = something <---- multivariable
08:14 <GodTodd> nope
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> r(t) = < t, 1+t, t^2 >
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> er, vector, that second one
08:15 <GodTodd> i think they leave that for the next one
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> do you have to take the next one?
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> I thought when I read the catalog description that it had you starting with those in calc 2
08:15 <GodTodd> i have to take advanced engineering math which seems to be just another form of calc 3
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> link?
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't mind :)
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> and a link to the course you just finished
08:18 * Lucifer_arma will dig up links to the ones at acc and compare
08:18 <GodTodd> sec
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://www3.austincc.edu/catalog/fy2008/descmath.htm#math2414
08:42 <GodTodd> https://studentservices.ccccd.edu/course_catalog/catalogM20074.htm#MATH2414
08:42 <GodTodd> http://www.utdallas.edu/student/catalog/ugcurrent/ugprograms/ee.html
08:43 <GodTodd> second one you're looking at EE3300
08:44 <GodTodd> (sorry...had to take a dump somewhere in there :) )
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08:51 <Lucifer_arma> hm
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not seeing the same course description you showed me at the start of the session :)
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> says "vectors", but that's not vector-valued functions, is it?
08:52 <GodTodd> you want the calc 3 one too?
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I'm satisfied, thanks :)
08:54 <GodTodd> https://studentservices.ccccd.edu/course_catalog/catalogM20081.htm#MATH2415
08:54 <GodTodd> there it is anyway :)
08:54 <GodTodd> that one has it
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's the one alright :)
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> I need to stop letting wikipedia distract me
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> I need to be going to bed :/
09:06 <GodTodd> me too :/
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> got distracted reading about bridge disasters
09:16 <guru3> ccccd?
09:16 <guru3> that's a lot of cs.
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Chek_New_Jersey_Festival_of_Ballooning
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> I just read the dumbest piece of trash ever, and sadly, it was on wikipedia
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> Since 2004, the festival has hired a virgin to perform a ritual to ensure good weather for the festival. It has worked for three straight years.
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> The 2007 virgin, Victoria Brumfield (born 1979), said it is a mixture of "fun and embarrassment" and that "if it does rain, my virtue is not to blame. I'm waiting until I'm married and no one has asked yet." She is a devout Mormon.[2][3] [4]
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> she's a devout mormon performing pagan rituals for a ballooning festival?
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> ri-i-i-ight
09:17 <guru3> Oo
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09:18 <guru3> might be a page to mark for moderation or some such
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> I could just edit the page and fix it
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> no source is cited, but the assumption that the ritual is responsible for the lack of rain is probably not the sort of thing wikipedia should be assuming :)
09:20 <guru3> lol
09:20 <guru3> indeed
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10:11 <eddiefantastic> hi
10:11 <eddiefantastic> I made a zones v2 movie, it's 15Mb
10:11 <eddiefantastic> http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/images/zones2.avi
10:11 <eddiefantastic> can someone see if they can play it?
10:12 <eddiefantastic> It played in mplayer, but winamp is having none of it for me
10:12 <wrtlprnft> wget http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/images/zones2.avi
10:12 <wrtlprnft> oops
10:14 <wrtlprnft> wah, cheater. i stopped in each corner of the map to win
10:14 <eddiefantastic> haha
10:14 <wrtlprnft> but yeah, it plays fine
10:14 <eddiefantastic> I was playing in a very window to make the movie
10:14 <eddiefantastic> it wasn't easy
10:15 <wrtlprnft> :D
10:15 <eddiefantastic> http://recordmydesktop.iovar.org/about.php
10:15 <eddiefantastic> great app
10:16 <eddiefantastic> well, I'd like windows users to be able to play it too
10:16 <eddiefantastic> I suppose not many hang out here
10:17 <wrtlprnft> well, it's a theora movie
10:17 <wrtlprnft> windows doesn't like standards
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10:37 <eddiefantastic> mplayer for windows ;)
10:37 <eddiefantastic> don't even need to install it, just extract the zip file
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13:33 <beta_usa> epsy: I assumed it's enough, but still, there will be other services and i'd like to know (more or less) what bandwich will be used by one server, say around 10 people (i plan to make more than one server).
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13:33 <beta_usa> What do you mean ?
13:33 <wrtlprnft_> oh noes
13:33 <wrtlprnft_> my IP changed
13:33 <beta_usa> A dedicated server in a datacenter.
13:34 <epsy> chez qui tu comptes acheter ton vps/dedi
13:34 <beta_usa> dedibox.
13:34 <epsy> ah ok
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13:34 <epsy> wrtlprnft, really ? O_o
13:34 <noob7> wow wrtlprnft - first IP change in like 2 years? :p
13:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah
13:34 <epsy> beta_usa, averaging kb/user i think
13:34 <epsy> XD
13:35 <wrtlprnft> accidentally unplugged my modem
13:35 <noob7> lol wrtlprnft :D
13:35 <wrtlprnft> well, need to switch around all my domains
13:35 <epsy> *caugh* did you broke your uptime *caugh*
13:35 <wrtlprnft> 13:35:51 up 205 days, 2:43, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
13:36 <beta_usa> Heh nice one.
13:36 <epsy> i wonder if it stays the same on netcraft :D
13:36 <noob7> does this influence one of the masterlists?
13:36 <beta_usa> I had a good uptime too, but i don't own this box anymore :/
13:36 <beta_usa> (like 2years and a half uptime)/
13:36 <wrtlprnft> hmm, i wonder where master3 is pointing
13:37 <epsy> harr i might consider BSD servers
13:37 <beta_usa> I wonder if I can make armagetron server run on OpenBSD.
13:38 <epsy> should work
13:38 <beta_usa> I hope.
13:38 <epsy> heh
13:39 <wrtlprnft> #ping
13:39 <armabot> pong
13:39 <wrtlprnft> did she rejoin?
13:40 <epsy> nope
13:40 <wrtlprnft> interesting
13:40 <epsy> not after i joined at least
13:41 <wrtlprnft> hmm, my webserver works again it seems
13:41 <epsy> #lastseen
13:41 <wrtlprnft> and master3 updated itself :)
13:41 <armabot> epsy: timed out
13:41 <epsy> #lastseen a
13:42 <armabot> epsy: timed out
13:42 <epsy> that broke it
13:42 <noob7> ah nice
13:44 <wrtlprnft> can someone test if my master3 still works?
13:44 <epsy> i can't be sure if i can ping anything
13:44 <epsy> but
13:44 <wrtlprnft> just open the master server browser until it tries to get a list from master3
13:45 <epsy> PING wrtlprnft.ath.cx (77.47.5.89) 56(84) bytes of data.
13:45 <epsy> --- wrtlprnft.ath.cx ping statistics ---
13:45 <epsy> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3005ms
13:45 <epsy> i got problems with master3 yesterday
13:45 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: http://pastebin.ca/648543 <-- did your ssh key change?!
13:45 <epsy> well, i think it was master3
13:45 <epsy> but i was laggying completely
13:45 <wrtlprnft> epsy: but you can wget http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx?
13:45 <epsy> wait
13:45 <epsy> PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
13:45 <epsy> --- google.com ping statistics ---
13:45 <epsy> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3003ms
13:45 <epsy> i was sure this would happen
13:45 <wrtlprnft> err
13:46 <wrtlprnft> armagetronad@marvin $ ping wrtlprnft.ath.cx ~
13:46 <wrtlprnft> PING wrtlprnft.ath.cx (77.47.5.89) 56(84) bytes of data.
13:46 <wrtlprnft> 64 bytes from 77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de (77.47.5.89): icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=22.8 ms
13:46 <wrtlprnft> 64 bytes from 77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de (77.47.5.89): icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=18.7 ms
13:46 <epsy> you could use -c4 the next time -_-
13:46 <wrtlprnft> ?
13:47 <wrtlprnft> i executed it on a real console and copied and pasted the first 4 lines
13:47 <epsy> ping -c4
13:47 <wrtlprnft> who cares about statistics?
13:47 <wrtlprnft> you can see that it's the first two pings by looking at icmp_seq
13:47 <epsy> me, too see if i got the jackpot
13:47 <epsy> and i just got it twice
13:47 <epsy> 100% lost
13:49 <epsy> i'm wondering how i do resolve freenode in less than 1 second
13:49 <epsy> but i'm still trying to join the forums
13:49 <wrtlprnft> argh.
13:49 <wrtlprnft> can someone else try it for a change?
13:50 <epsy> damn i'm completely lagged out of anything -_-
13:50 <Lucifer_arma> hang on
13:50 <wrtlprnft> thanks
13:50 <wrtlprnft> i switched routers, and the new one is running openwrt
13:50 <Lucifer_arma> nope
13:51 <wrtlprnft> the manual says how to forward tcp ports, but not udp.
13:51 <Lucifer_arma> failed to connect to master 3
13:51 <epsy> woot
13:51 <Lucifer_arma> I got lucky, it picked it first
13:51 <Lucifer_arma> connected to master 1 just fine, though
13:52 <wrtlprnft> i can connect just fine from a computer in my networt
13:55 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: if you ping master3.aa.net, what ip does it pick?
13:55 <Lucifer_arma> PING master3.aa.net (82.98.86.161) 56(84) bytes of data
13:56 <Lucifer_arma> PING wrtlprnft.ath.cx (77.47.5.89) 56(84) bytes of data.
13:56 * Lucifer_arma wonders what aa.net is
13:56 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't exist
13:56 <Lucifer_arma> Accept ntp traffic for OPN access point at 192.168.2.2 (eccentrica gallumbits).
13:56 <Lucifer_arma> ${IPTABLES} -A FORWARD -i ${OPN_IF} -o ${WAN_IF} -s 192.168.2.2/32 -m udp -p udp --dport 123 -j ACCEPT
13:56 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_168.png hmm nice
13:57 <wrtlprnft> i just rely on the people i talk to be smart enough to figure out what i really mean
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> https://rejo.zenger.nl/misc/1162753829.php
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> I rely on people to give me copy and paste terminal commands :)
13:57 <wrtlprnft> sorry
13:58 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I don't know if that link is helpful, it's very descriptive and detailed, and yet, still not very informative
13:58 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i just checked out the server browser used on beta.armagetronad.net and it works with my master…
13:59 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: you can wget http://master3.armagetronad.net/ -O/dev/null, right?
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> > Length: 4,342 (4.2K) [text/html]
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> > 100%[=====================================================================>] 4,342 25.78K/s
14:00 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:00 <Lucifer_arma> that came out uglier than expected, but yeah
14:06 <Lucifer_arma> dave@gerard:~$ uptime
14:06 <Lucifer_arma> 07:13:48 up 11 days, 15:50, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.08
14:06 <Lucifer_arma> new server's coming along nicely, it seems :)
14:12 <spidey> i have another waste of space added to the network
14:13 <spidey> i now have everything from pentium, and pentium 4, a celeron, and a duron
14:13 <spidey> -and+to
14:13 <epsy> and a gaston
14:14 <spidey> hmm
14:14 <spidey> aslong as it supports wireless
14:14 <spidey> i'm out of ports on the router
14:14 <Lucifer_arma> me too, considering getting a switch
14:15 <spidey> laptop uses wireless
14:15 <spidey> heh
14:15 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: how easy was it to install openwrt?
14:15 <spidey> you know
14:15 <Lucifer_arma> and what kind of router?
14:15 <spidey> you'd be amazed at what you can find in a mexican trailor park
14:15 <spidey> i was at my moms, and we drove by this one lot
14:15 <spidey> there was atleast 10 cases with mobos and other parts
14:16 <spidey> so, knowing me, i was like stop!
14:16 <spidey> luckily she has a truck
14:18 <spidey> makes me happy when people throw out decent systems because they're loaded with spyware or virus's, aswell
14:18 <spidey> :D
14:20 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: wrt45gl
14:20 <wrtlprnft> very easy actually
14:20 <Lucifer_arma> connected this time
14:20 <Lucifer_arma> I guess it was just a dns propogation thing, then?
14:21 <wrtlprnft> yeah
14:21 <wrtlprnft> thanks anyways
14:21 <Lucifer_arma> np
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14:25 <wrtlprnft> i had it running for two weeks or so and it worked, now i switched my old router for it
14:33 <Lucifer_arma> I don't have a spare, which is the reason I haven't tried openwrt
14:34 <wrtlprnft> what kind of router do you have?
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> Firmware Version: v2.02.7, Feb. 27, 2004
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> wrt54g
14:35 <Lucifer_arma> linksys
14:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm starting to talk like spidey :/
14:35 <spidey> ?
14:35 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54G
14:35 <wrtlprnft> what version?
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> aha, 2.0
14:36 <wrtlprnft> that should be just fine
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> says its supported
14:37 -!- epsy is now known as closedwrtlprnft
14:37 <wrtlprnft> it's got pretty much the same specs as mine
14:37 <Lucifer_arma> does the out of the box configuration work fine as a nat router, or do I have to do extra work to make it work?
14:37 * Lucifer_arma wants to move his master server to his router sometime
14:38 <wrtlprnft> irrc it will get its wan ip per dhcp and have the ip 192.168.1
14:39 <wrtlprnft> you have to edit a text file to do port forwarding, though
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> did you install the basic system, or the one with the web interface?
14:40 <wrtlprnft> the default one
14:40 <wrtlprnft> actually the one i have on there right now is a customized image i compiled myself
14:41 <wrtlprnft> basically i took the default image, stripped off all the ppp crap and added screen and a couple of busybox features
14:41 <wrtlprnft> you can do that on the default image once it's installed, but it will eat more space
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> well, if I'm already confident with the process, it doesn't matter :)
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> I have a different dhcp server, though
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> so I don't want/need my router to provide dhcp service
14:42 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't do so by default
14:43 <Lucifer_arma> same with dns service, I have a dns server :)
14:43 <Lucifer_arma> (even if it doesn't know your new ip address)
14:44 <wrtlprnft> heh
14:44 <wrtlprnft> my new IP is 3 chars shorter
14:45 <wrtlprnft> maybe i'll finally be able to memorize it
14:45 <noob7> does it spell a word when typed on your cell?
14:45 <noob7> .D
14:45 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:46 <wrtlprnft> i don't have a cell, but i'll have to try
14:46 <noob7> http://www.phonespell.org/
14:47 <wrtlprnft> http://www.phonespell.org/combo.cgi?n=7747589
14:47 <wrtlprnft> errm, well
14:47 <wrtlprnft> sir lux sounds good
14:47 <wrtlprnft> just need to memorize the dots
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14:49 <noob7> get it tattoed, but make sure not to stumble across your room plugging out that modem again
14:50 <wrtlprnft> heh
14:50 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should just memorize that 4.2.2.1 is a DNS server and wrtlprnft.ath.cx should point to my IP
14:51 <noob7> http://www.phonespell.org/combo.cgi?n=127001 :(
14:51 * noob7 snickers
14:51 <wrtlprnft> 0 = space, right?
14:51 <noob7> depends on your phone really... its "+" for me
14:52 <noob7> weird microsoft mobile and all
14:52 <wrtlprnft> http://www.phonespell.org/combo.cgi?n=127423141
14:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://x-wrt.org/
14:52 <noob7> 1-bribe-1-I-1 ?
14:52 <wrtlprnft> i tried it, it looks nice and all, but decided i didn't really need it
14:52 <noob7> lol!!11elven!11 :p
14:53 <wrtlprnft> just forget about 127.0.0.1 and use 127.42.3.141
14:53 <wrtlprnft> by the way, the default web interface is valid xhtml :)
14:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh
14:54 * Lucifer_arma goes to dig up a link about xhtml
14:54 <noob7> #lastseen duudii
14:54 <wrtlprnft> ctrl-alt-v in opera
14:54 <armabot> noob7: timed out
14:55 <noob7> is armabot broken?
14:55 <noob7> #onlineservers
14:55 <wrtlprnft> good question
14:55 <armabot> noob7: timed out
14:55 <wrtlprnft> #fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx
14:55 <noob7> :`(
14:55 <wrtlprnft> weird
14:55 <wrtlprnft> #fetch http://localhost
14:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
14:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"\n "html-dtd/xhtml1-strict.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Wrtlprnft\'s home server</title>\n<!--<style type="text/css">li:hover {display:none}</style>-->\n</head><body>\n<h1>Wrtlprnft\'s home server</h1>\n<p>\nThis is mostly a place for random crap that (5 more messages)
14:55 <wrtlprnft> !
14:55 <wrtlprnft> ok, something's broken there
14:56 <wrtlprnft> hmm, it still thinks wrtlprnft.ath.cx is 85.233.38.240
14:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml
14:57 <wrtlprnft> #onlineservers
14:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 4574 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (4/16), Tigers Network Classic Play (4/16), Norm's Place (4/12), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (3/16), ~TP~ The Plague ~TP~ (2/6), Swampland in 2.7.1 (2/8), Wildcat (2/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (2/12), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (2/8), |FA| Clan Server 1  (1 more message)
14:57 <wrtlprnft> well, that was a quick localhost fix
14:57 <wrtlprnft> in /etc/hosts
14:57 <noob7> yay
14:58 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: if i can i always implement a switch that serves the content as application/xhtml+xml if it's mentioned in the Accept header
14:58 <wrtlprnft> which means that IE gets buggy content, but it's a buggy browser
15:00 <Lucifer_arma> someone I email has recently been infected with a virus
15:00 <Lucifer_arma> like today
15:00 <wrtlprnft> #onlineservers
15:00 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 4754 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (4/16), Tigers Network Classic Play (4/16), Norm's Place (4/12), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (3/16), ~TP~ The Plague ~TP~ (2/6), Swampland in 2.7.1 (2/8), Wildcat (2/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (2/12), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (2/8), |FA| Clan Server 1  (1 more message)
15:00 <wrtlprnft> hmm, it's not updating
15:01 <Lucifer_arma> does ie7 understand application/xhtml+xml ?
15:01 <wrtlprnft> no
15:01 <wrtlprnft> it still offers the file as a download
15:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm serving up plain html from my website
15:04 <Lucifer_arma> (I use txt2tags to generate it)
15:05 <wrtlprnft> i don't care whether it's valid xhtml or valid html
15:05 <wrtlprnft> but it's valid
15:05 <Lucifer_arma> my site is?
15:06 * Lucifer_arma hasn't run any of his pages through a validator
15:06 <Lucifer_arma> ack, wtf!?!?
15:07 <Lucifer_arma> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davefancella.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
15:07 <wrtlprnft> first of all it's one of the sites you have to access via http://www.davefancella.com/, not http://davefancella.com/
15:07 <wrtlprnft> that's an interesting page
15:08 <wrtlprnft> who closes a div and gives it an id in its closing tag?
15:09 <Lucifer_arma> heh
15:09 <Lucifer_arma> something wrong with my txt2tags source, apparently
15:09 <wrtlprnft> that's the kind of error you'd notice if you served your site as xhtml
15:09 <wrtlprnft> the browser would display it
15:09 <spidey> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffallin-angels.org&warning=1&profile=css21&usermedium=all
15:10 <Lucifer_arma> could have sworn the script rendered to html, not xhtml
15:11 <closedwrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma, wtf does id do in a closing tag ????
15:11 <closedwrtlprnft> harr already said
15:11 -!- closedwrtlprnft is now known as epsy
15:11 <wrtlprnft> ok, the master server browser works again
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15:14 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, I need to get it to regenerate the whole site now
15:14 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, delete it! :)
15:16 <Lucifer_arma> now it's valid
15:16 <Lucifer_arma> of course, now it looks like crap, too
15:19 <Lucifer_arma> still broken, but better now
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15:24 <Lucifer_arma> html4 transitional had divs, right?
15:25 <wrtlprnft> ?
15:26 <wrtlprnft> they all have divs
15:26 <wrtlprnft> it's just that in transitional you can put inline elements directly into divs and forms, in strict you can't
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> aha, figuring it out now :)
15:26 <wrtlprnft> so some incredibly intelligent people had the idea to just wrap everything in a div
15:27 <wrtlprnft> http://www.davefancella.com/software/ is still a mess
15:27 <wrtlprnft> xhtml is case sensitive!
15:31 * epsy is looking for a tray program which can autohide
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> hey, it looks fixed
15:32 * Lucifer_arma checks to see if his browser cached it
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I shouldn't have done this
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to just quit now before I break it more
15:32 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: no, but my hostname might have, unless I can get SSH to go somewhere other than browsers
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: no, I was switching it to html instead of xhtml
15:33 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: my new ISP blocks port 80, so browsers need to hit a proxy
15:33 <wrtlprnft> WTF!
15:33 <wrtlprnft> and why exactly do you use such a sucky ISP?
15:34 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: it's still invalid, i just thought that was the reason
15:34 <wrtlprnft> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/style/ie.css" />
15:34 <wrtlprnft> you can't do that in a html document
15:34 <noob7> does anyone know what happened to that guy that was on housearrest and had a court hearing yesterday?
15:34 <wrtlprnft> a tag like <br /> in HTML actually closes with the /
15:35 <wrtlprnft> so what it really sees is a <br> tag followed by a >
15:35 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: no real choice
15:35 <wrtlprnft> <p><br/<br/<br/ is perfectly valid html
15:35 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: w3c supports serving XHTML as text/html
15:35 <wrtlprnft> one of the reasons why html sucks
15:36 <wrtlprnft> noob7: not me
15:36 <wrtlprnft> was that /dev/null?
15:36 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: I would love it if you wanted to pay the $45 ports-80-and-25 extortion fee ;)
15:37 <wrtlprnft> wtf? you can get quite a good internet connection for that
15:37 <luke-jr_> indeed, the 7 mbit connection itself is $42/mo
15:38 <luke-jr_> for less than that $45/mo more, I could upgrade to 12mbit
15:38 <wrtlprnft> 7mbit up or down?
15:38 <luke-jr_> down
15:39 <wrtlprnft> how much up?
15:39 <luke-jr_> at most 1mbit
15:40 <wrtlprnft> well, i have 16mbit down, .8mbit up, almost no restricted ports, for 40€
15:41 <luke-jr_> ;.;
15:41 <wrtlprnft> almost=all privileged ports work, just some ports that are known to be used by trojans don't
15:41 * luke-jr_ resists urge to be jealous
15:41 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
15:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 33 seconds old; Wild West =Capture The Flag= (11/12), Crazy Tronners Bugfarm Clonewith Ladders (7/16), Norm's Place (6/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (4/14), The YELLOW Submarine (3/16), SPACEZONE III (3/15), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (2/16), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (2/8), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (1/12), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (1/15), Wildcat (1 more message)
15:42 <Vanhayes> hmm, whats Crazy Tronners Bugfarm Clonewith Ladders?
15:43 <Lucifer_arma> can't do that in an html document? !?
15:44 <Lucifer_arma> always could before...
15:44 <wrtlprnft> do what? be jealous?
15:44 <wrtlprnft> note that luke-jr_ is talking, maybe you silenced him
15:44 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: Apple's SSH does SRV DNS :)
15:45 <wrtlprnft> Stevie Ray Vaughan?
15:45 <wrtlprnft> Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
15:45 <wrtlprnft> Simian retrovirus?
15:45 <luke-jr_> ...
15:45 <wrtlprnft> Social role valorization?
15:46 <wrtlprnft> Submarine rescue vessel?
15:46 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg SRV
15:46 <armabot> wrtlprnft: S.R.V.: Synthetic Robotic Variant
15:46 <luke-jr_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record
15:47 <wrtlprnft> well, my sshd doesn't
15:47 <luke-jr_> it's a client side thing
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16:38 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 4 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (9/12), SPACEZONE III (7/15), Fortress Café (7/32), Norm's Place (7/12), Tigers Network Speed Blast (6/16), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (5/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (4/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), victory is mine! (3/16), (2 more messages)
16:38 <Vanhayes> #tea
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Abrysztomytonom, Goku, HAVLIK, IL, iPwn, Norman, Oرز
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16:41 <MrBougo> hiho
16:42 <Vanhayes> hey
16:43 <MrBougo> im using my pc without any mouse
16:43 <MrBougo> it feels crazy
16:43 <MrBougo> shot
16:44 <MrBougo> shot
16:44 <MrBougo> how do you click a link
16:45 <MrBougo> oh, F7
16:56 <MrBougo> aw my legs
16:56 <MrBougo> walked too much
16:56 <MrBougo> with boxes full of frozen fries
17:01 <Vanhayes> heh, I had to hitch hike 400 km in rope sandals with my feet all cut up yesterday
17:02 <Vanhayes> my feet are completly wrote off today
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17:38 <MrBougo> wtf
17:38 <MrBougo> Vanhayes: lol
17:38 <MrBougo> poor you
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> ack
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> did you get to Eroticism or whatever it was called? Emofest?
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> something with an E...
17:44 <MrBougo> wtf?
17:44 <MrBougo> there are so much thingzs with E
17:44 <Lucifer_arma> I was asking vanhayes
17:44 <MrBougo> E-mail
17:44 <MrBougo> E-psy
17:45 <Lucifer_arma> E-shut the fuck up?
17:45 <MrBougo> E-okay
17:45 <Vanhayes> evolve
17:45 <MrBougo> lol
17:45 <Lucifer_arma> no, that's A-okay
17:45 <luke-jr_> lies!
17:45 <MrBougo> what's A-okay?
17:45 <MrBougo> no lcue
17:45 <MrBougo> no clue either
17:45 <Vanhayes> and I doubt even one emo wopuld have been there
17:45 <Lucifer_arma> oh, right, they would have said "Evolve? Waaaaa, I'm going to naturally select myself!"
17:45 <MrBougo> huh
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> (because natural selection decides who dies, not who lives, get it?)
17:46 <MrBougo> got it :/
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> sad state of affairs when natural selection has to be explained, but Jesus can walk on water is taken for a well-documented fact with lots of witnesses
17:46 * luke-jr_ naturally selects Lucifer_arma
17:46 <Vanhayes> lots of E-tards and Cid feinds there though, crazy 3 days
17:47 * Lucifer_arma watches his karma run over luke's dogma
17:47 <luke-jr_> the fact that Lucifer_arma is still here disproves evolution!
17:47 <MrBougo> jesus can walk on water because he took that gene his dad got from a mutation
17:47 <luke-jr_> :D
17:47 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: not at all, I'm a survivor. :)
17:47 <MrBougo> he was selected because he could escape the predators
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> he was seleccted because he was an asshat. Think about it, he didn't have any kids, and he died not of old age.
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> clearly he was naturally selected OUT of the gene pool (which is how it works, goddammit!)
17:48 <MrBougo> he didnt have any kids> too bad, because if he did, we would all be walkin on water
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> if his genes were worth half a fuck, he would have survived long enough to sire a child, which sadly means that luke's genes are worth half a fuck
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> nah, his kids would have been asshats too
17:49 <MrBougo> maybe there wasnt water when he ried to escape
17:49 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: you haven't seen the research on Sang Real then?
17:49 <GodTodd> ;)
17:49 <MrBougo> asshats who could walk on water
17:49 <Vanhayes> asshats float
17:49 <MrBougo> i'd give all my smartness to be able to walk on water
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> that's true, they are full of hot air
17:49 <GodTodd> scuttlebutt is that jesus had a kid with mary
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> why? I'd use my smartness to build a boat
17:49 <GodTodd> the whore mary that is
17:49 <epsy> O_o
17:49 <GodTodd> :)
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> so, I guess you already gave at the door, eh?
17:49 <MrBougo> and i'd fuck your boat
17:49 <MrBougo> i'll take a cycle
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> over the water?
17:50 <MrBougo> and it will be ecological
17:50 <MrBougo> I'D GIVE IT MY FUCKING GENES
17:50 <MrBougo> could have a kid with a cycle
17:50 <MrBougo> so he would walk on water
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> a cycle built with modern alloys and oiled with middle-eastern oil is more ecological than a rowboat built out of wood?
17:50 <epsy> #last --with BTT
17:50 <armabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 3190 messages.
17:50 <z-man-work> Just pour lots of corn starch into the lake and run like hell :)
17:50 <MrBougo> IT IS
17:50 <epsy> stupid armabot
17:51 <MrBougo> z-man-work: nice idea
17:51 <epsy> z-man-work, is the name bugfarm ©'d ?
17:51 <MrBougo> but what about the sea?
17:51 <z-man-work> more corn starch.
17:51 <MrBougo> hehe
17:51 <z-man-work> epsy: no, names can't be copyrighted.
17:51 <luke-jr_> you can't © a name, dummy
17:51 <MrBougo> or fecula
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't mean you should try to pass yourself off as bugfarm, though
17:52 <MrBougo> fecula + water is damn funny
17:52 <epsy> ® or TM, whatever
17:52 <Lucifer_arma> people tend to get very angry when you do it and your server sucks ass
17:52 <epsy> z-man-work, can i use it for random shit until it's testing ?
17:52 <epsy> #last --with ORT
17:52 <armabot> epsy: [17:53:13] <Lucifer_arma> if his genes were worth half a fuck, he would have survived long enough to sire a child, which sadly means that luke's genes are worth half a fuck
17:52 <z-man-work> Sure, but don't complain to me if people complain to you.
17:52 <epsy> #realchatlogs
17:52 <armabot> epsy: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
17:52 <epsy> lol
17:53 <Lucifer_arma> you could do us a service by dissassociating the name with some particular style of play and associating it with "testing a server"
17:53 <MrBougo> epsy wants to know if he can use it for his new shoes trademark
17:53 <epsy> excactle
17:53 <MrBougo> "Epsy-Bugfarm Moon Boots"
17:53 <z-man-work> I thought he wanted to open a motel.
17:53 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: worth at least 2 of thme :)
17:53 <Lucifer_arma> a roach motel?
17:53 <MrBougo> Bugfarm Wotel
17:53 <MrBougo> awesome
17:54 <MrBougo> M*
17:54 <MrBougo> can be a Wotel too
17:54 <MrBougo> what's a Wotel
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> I wotel
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> you'll have to figure it out for yourself
17:54 * GodTodd notes that luke-jr_'s genes don't want to be associated with his name, however, since he only has girls ;)
17:54 * luke-jr_ sets up a "Bugfarm Hosting" brand
17:55 * Lucifer_arma quietly notes that his kids might be dumb enough to want the association, but will be forced by their sexist father to change their names when they marry some dude 20 years their senior
17:55 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: David is not a girl
17:55 <MrBougo> wot the el
17:55 <MrBougo> http://wotel.dk/
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> (where "his" refers to luke!)
17:55 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: depends...if it's your kid, it probably is :)
17:56 <z-man-work> XML-methodologies ????
17:56 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: I wasn't asking a question
17:56 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: good because i wasn't answering one
17:56 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: then stfu
17:56 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: no :)
17:56 <MrBougo> (where "his" refers to luke!) => haha
17:56 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: good comeback, btw
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> what was it that emo kid used to have on his avatar?
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> "How about a nice cup of shut the fuck up?"
17:57 <z-man-work> Ang?
17:57 <MrBougo> Aang?
17:57 <z-man-work> Ah, no, Skullflame!
17:57 <MrBougo> sounds better than Bonecandle
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, him :)
17:58 <z-man-work> I found that especially funny since he was the noisiest poster at that time :)
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> with the picture that went with it, I always heard the old Disney mockumentary voice read it to me
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, he was new. New guys always fire up a whole ton of threads. :)
17:58 <MrBougo> thats boring, heh
17:59 <MrBougo> you feel like you have to read them all
17:59 <Lucifer_arma> he's still the only emo we're not allowed to hate, since he stayed playing the game in local gme for months before he finally figured out how to get it to play network game
17:59 <z-man-work> DONT REMIND ME OF THAT
17:59 <Lucifer_arma> except, now that I think of it, that pattern of behavior fits right in with emo and self-injury
18:00 <z-man-work> that must have been the most gruesome troubleshooting session ever.
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, my youngest is now 4, why is it that *I* feel a year older?
18:01 <luke-jr_> because a year for him is also a year for you?
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> hey, if it makes you feel any better, I just spent the last 10 weeks showing kids that Mac OS X works more or less the same as windows, except that to turn it off, you press the Power button
18:01 <GodTodd> because you're a year older than when he was "now 3"?
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: not at all. Don't you know anything about relativity? To him, a year is an eternity, but to me, it's just a year.
18:01 <z-man-work> My wife always uses the menu for that, because the power button is so inpolite :)
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> haha
18:02 <epsy> heh
18:02 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: to be fair, you turn off Windows with the power button as well
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: no you don't, you press "Start"
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> to quit, you press "Start"
18:02 <luke-jr_> only dumb people do :)
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE!
18:03 <luke-jr_> *I* would just press the power button
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> how is he getting through my ignore filter, anyway?
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: not if you knew how unstable windows filesystems were
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> they're like reiserfs, but weren't made by murderers
18:03 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: pushing the power button tells Windows to shutdown
18:03 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: sure you can....cut the power to any computer running any OS and it will shut down....now you'll eventually fuck a windows box over doing that....but you can :)
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: in case you're wndering, that's really only if the bios supports it
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> if it doesn't, then windows doesn't know when it's pressed
18:04 <luke-jr_> cleanly, even
18:04 <luke-jr_> ok, yeah, but Macs can't do it without hardware support either
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> I've got two computers whose bioses don't say anything when you push the button
18:05 <epsy> who knows if windows filesystems weren't written by murdrers...who knows
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> true, but since Macs are an evil proprietary hardware platform, they all have the necessary support
18:05 <luke-jr_> epsy: true
18:06 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: to answer your question directly, I'm sure the people who wrote the filesystems know whether or not they killed anybody
18:06 <epsy> URGH SOMEONE IS KILLING ME
18:06 <MrBougo> with windows you can set up the power button
18:06 <MrBougo> to stand by, shut down, shut up
18:06 <MrBougo> what else
18:06 <MrBougo> "Ask me what to do"
18:06 <MrBougo> and "Do nothing"
18:06 <epsy> with a screwdriver you can set out the power button
18:07 <MrBougo> do nothing, definitely
18:07 <MrBougo> it's so easy to press that button with your knee
18:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll be honest, on the rare occasion I have a windows box (tore my last one down already!), I usually turn it off by unplugging it
18:07 <MrBougo> i hate opening the cd drive with my knee
18:07 <MrBougo> hehe Lucifer_arma :p
18:07 <MrBougo> makes you feel good i guess
18:07 <epsy> you mean it's easy to open your knie by pressing on that button
18:08 <z-man-work> Take that, Bill!
18:08 <epsy> *ee
18:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, actually, it was because the power switch on the last one was broken and that was the only way to turn it off
18:08 <luke-jr_> me too, mainly because last I checked the dumb crap never shuts down right anyway
18:08 <MrBougo> epsy: im not an emo, i dont put razor blades on my "open the cd drive" buttons
18:08 <Lucifer_arma> but I soldered it up a few days back and now it works fine again. It's running my ltsp client
18:09 <MrBougo> windows is funny
18:09 <MrBougo> funny crap
18:09 <epsy> funny is windows
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> windows is like making love to my mother-in-law
18:09 <GodTodd> that you would even know how to make that comparison is scary
18:09 <GodTodd> :)
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's a big bloated mess that insults you whenever you get near and , er, I'm getting sick, nvm
18:10 <luke-jr_> ...................
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> ok, windows is like making love to luke-jr
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> do I need to finish that?
18:10 <GodTodd> now that's something we all know :)
18:10 <GodTodd> haha
18:10 * epsy feel Lucifer_arma sending a window filesystem writer to Lucifer_arma
18:10 <GodTodd> luke-jr_ is a slut :)
18:10 <epsy> * luke-jr_
18:11 * Lucifer_arma sends epsy a French-English dictionary
18:11 <MrBougo> yep, finish it Lucifer_arma
18:11 * Lucifer_arma sends MrBougo a case of Some Fucking Common Sense
18:11 <epsy> *ouch* in my face
18:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I gotta go get these rascals to do something besides stuff balloons up their shirt and complain that they ate too much
18:12 <Lucifer_arma> (you can tell my mother-iin-law was here recently when my kids pretend to be fat)
18:12 <MrBougo> haha
18:13 * GodTodd thought you were talking about physics students for a minute there :)
18:13 * epsy looks around
18:13 * MrBougo is bored
18:13 * MrBougo will only use /me to talk
18:13 * GodTodd is routed.
18:14 * MrBougo asks GodTodd what he means
18:14 * epsy thinks human means nothing
18:14 * GodTodd refers MrBougo to carpentry lingo
18:14 * MrBougo corrects his previous message, "about what"
18:14 * MrBougo wonders what carpentry lingo is
18:14 * MrBougo googles it
18:14 * epsy slaps MrBougo
18:15 * GodTodd notes it is language used by carpenters
18:15 * MrBougo knows what GodTodd meant
18:15 * epsy doesn't care
18:15 * MrBougo still doesnt know what "routed" means in caprentry lingo, though
18:15 * GodTodd wonders if MrBougo was just trying to act like luke-jr_ then ;)
18:15 * MrBougo doesnt care
18:16 * MrBougo isnt luke-jr_
18:16 * GodTodd notes it means essentially "processed by a router"
18:16 <z-man-work> Gaa, epsy pinged me!
18:16 * MrBougo really wonders how he's gonna send f*ing commands to armabot
18:16 * MrBougo looks at z-man-work-the-cheater
18:16 * epsy pinged the whole channel
18:17 * MrBougo thinks that he should act like us
18:17 * epsy thinks MrBougo should stop thinking with his mounth open
18:17 * GodTodd has sex with everyone in the room...twice
18:17 * MrBougo can ping z-man-work too, epsy isnt the only one able to do it
18:18 * MrBougo reassures everyone, epsy's message with "mouth open" has nothing to do with GodTodd's "sex with everyone in the room"
18:19 * epsy slaps MrBougo with GodTodd's sayings
18:19 * MrBougo laughs
18:19 * wrtlprnft wonders if he should say something that's not a CTCP ACTION just to annoy everyone
18:19 * MrBougo knows that " GodTodd's sayings" arent long enough to reach me
18:19 <Lucifer_arma> haha, I just told my son "When you hear the words 'I ain't drunk, I'm just drink' ' , if your room isn't clean, you're in big trouble!"
18:20 * wrtlprnft thinks Lucifer_arma spoils the fun
18:20 * MrBougo thinks so too
18:20 * epsy suggest everyone here to ctcp epsy him
18:20 <Lucifer_arma> /me thinks spoiled fun smells good
18:20 <MrBougo> bah
18:20 <MrBougo> 20 /me in a row
18:20 <MrBougo> good enough
18:21 * epsy thinks you are an idiot, MrBougo
18:22 <digitx> ^^
18:22 * digitx thinks you are an idiot, epsy
18:22 <digitx> :D
18:22 * Lucifer_arma sings "I can see what you saw through my eyes"
18:22 * epsy sends ctcp answers to MrBougo even if he didn't ctcp'd me
18:23 <MrBougo> :/
18:23 <MrBougo> youre proud of your message, epsy
18:23 <MrBougo> you send it everywhere
18:23 <MrBougo> wee
18:24 * epsy didn't send his message everywhere
18:25 * epsy sneds more
18:25 * epsy stops sending more
18:27 <digitx> eheh
18:27 <digitx> ^^
18:27 <digitx> hi luke
18:27 <digitx> :)
18:27 <digitx> LOL
18:27 <digitx> xD
18:27 <digitx> * CTCP hungary érkezett ettől: luke-jr_ (#armagetron számára)
18:28 * epsy snet an answer to luke
18:28 * epsy suggests to read his last saying with this perl expression applied: s/snet/sent
18:32 [notice(#armagetron)] maybe i should try it like that
18:32 -MrBougo:#armagetron- testy?
18:33 <MrBougo> whats the purpose of this?
18:33 <MrBougo> :/
18:33 <MrBougo> theres one
18:33 <MrBougo> with mode -n you can send notices from the outside
18:33 -MrBougo:#armagetron- testeey
18:34 -epsy:#armagetron- testy tasty
18:34 <MrBougo> toasty
18:34 <MrBougo> munchy toasty
18:34 -epsy:#armagetron- hmm toasty toasty
18:34 <MrBougo> munchy fruity jelly
18:34 <MrBougo> fluffy
18:34 -epsy:#armagetron- ugh
18:34 <MrBougo> err...
18:34 * epsy slaps MrBougo
18:34 <MrBougo> fluffy jelly goes to the trashhy
18:35 * epsy agrees
18:35 * epsy starts the php recursion
18:35 * MrBougo starts scratching his nose
18:35 * MrBougo stop'd
18:35 -epsy:#armagetron- php: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hype
18:36 <MrBougo> wee
18:36 * epsy stops the php recursion
18:36 <MrBougo> #more
18:36 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
18:36 <epsy> hi
18:37 * epsy wonders what happens when someone ctcp harr's him
18:38 <MrBougo> nothing
18:38 <epsy> without 's -_-
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <MrBougo> lol
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <MrBougo> wtf?
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> wrtlprnft, stop!!!
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <MrBougo> roflll
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <wrtlprnft> stop spamming epsy1
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <MrBougo> haha awesome, wrtlprnft
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
18:40 <MrBougo> =DDD
18:40 <MrBougo> finish him!
18:40 <MrBougo> ew
18:40 <epsy> FINISH MrBougo !!!
18:40 <@wrtlprnft> too late i guess
18:40 <MrBougo> awww
18:40 <MrBougo> he changed it
18:40 <epsy> phew disabled just in time
18:40 <MrBougo> fuck
18:40 <MrBougo> epsy, /cmd -o yes
18:40 <MrBougo> /exec -o yes
18:41 <MrBougo> i mean
18:41 <epsy> this wont work you know
18:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
18:41 <MrBougo> it willz!
18:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v epsy] by ChanServ
18:41 <+epsy> i already tried that
18:41 <MrBougo> did you?
18:41 <+epsy> i did
18:41 <MrBougo> try it again? :3
18:41 <+epsy> no i don't want to crash xchat again
18:41 <wrtlprnft> try /exec -o yes | head -n 1000
18:42 <wrtlprnft> HARR HARR
18:42 <+epsy> HARR HARR
18:42 <MrBougo> what's head?
18:42 <MrBougo> #manpage
18:42 <wrtlprnft> #man head
18:42 <MrBougo> #man
18:42 <MrBougo> ah
18:42 <MrBougo> aw
18:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: head - output the first part of files
18:42 <armabot> MrBougo: (man <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/man.php?c=$1&p=@1".
18:43 <wrtlprnft> y
18:43 <wrtlprnft> y
18:43 <wrtlprnft> yes: standard output: Broken pipe
18:43 <wrtlprnft> yes: write error
18:43 <+epsy> a head is what stands on the fellow's shoulders
18:43 <wrtlprnft> lol
18:43 <wrtlprnft> that was with -n2
18:43 <MrBougo> lol wrtl
18:44 * epsy is away
18:45 <MrBougo> you aint
18:45 * epsy will be away
18:46 <MrBougo> :(
18:47 <MrBougo> lol at the new xkcd
18:48 <wrtlprnft> is it there already?
18:49 <wrtlprnft> bah, that's still monday's
18:50 <P4> wtf with you guys with this CTCPs?
18:50 * wrtlprnft is wondering whether anyone will be able to decypher http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191198#191198
18:51 <P4> looks like cesars code, lol
18:51 <P4> but only looks :P
18:51 <wrtlprnft> it contains a vim tip :D
18:52 <P4> how about ROT26? :)
18:52 <wrtlprnft> nah, caesar's code would have upper/lowercase messed up
18:52 * wrtlprnft is talking in ROT26
18:53 <wrtlprnft> what about ROT6.5?
18:53 <P4> |_ o _|
18:56 <P4> Ktbc Wiia <=- and this? :) it's almost ROT :) (MD5:3e8bad32c14a0c89eb635b3b25ccfedd)
18:58 <P4> do you know what means co in co.uk?
18:59 <wrtlprnft> commercial?
18:59 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co.uk#Second-level_domains
18:59 <P4> thanks
18:59 <P4> it's same in co.za, right?
18:59 * P4 is reading wiki
19:01 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-214-135.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
19:03 <wrtlprnft> Well Done
19:03 <wrtlprnft> it starts at some shift and decrements with each letter
19:03 <wrtlprnft> but the md5sum doesn't work out
19:04 <wrtlprnft> it starts at 12, actually
19:05 <wrtlprnft> well, either i got it wrong or your md5sum is f**ed up
19:05 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ echo 'Well Done' | md5sum - ~
19:05 <wrtlprnft> 07e5e00ea6d93c90d3d09e3f4cfe34a7 -
19:05 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ echo -n 'Well Done' | md5sum - ~
19:05 <wrtlprnft> 9b48dc2a1768654a97f87a13a9553418 -
19:06 <P4> hmm
19:07 <wrtlprnft> now solve mine :D
19:07 <P4> yea my MD5sum is different every try ;P
19:07 <P4> ok, just gimmie 10 minutes to smoek
19:08 <wrtlprnft> what did you use? head -n 1 /dev/urandom | md5sum -?
19:09 <P4> lol... i use FraTor... it's an win32 app...
19:09 <P4> brb
19:09 <+epsy> harr bougo left
19:19 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034248004.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
19:26 <Lucifer_arma> "I'm sitting in a circle of smiles, why is everyone so fucking happy?"
19:32 <P4> wrtlprnft: where's your riddle? :)
19:43 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191198#191198
19:43 <wrtlprnft> i warn you, it's not as easy as yours
19:50 <+epsy> :)
19:50 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-123-207-64.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Excess Flood]
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19:54 <+epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17860&view=newest <-- this got screwed up :/
19:54 <+epsy> in fact the db crashed
19:54 <+epsy> guru3, ping
19:55 <guru3> poing
19:55 <+epsy> ah back up
19:55 <+epsy> *it's back up
19:55 <guru3> ha HA!
19:55 <guru3> thank god it's not directly my problem if mysql dies anyway
19:57 <+epsy> so you're hosting phpBB but not the DB ?
20:08 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
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21:08 <wrtlprnft> i think both are on shared hosting
21:16 <beta_usa> bye
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21:26 <+epsy> i hate getting spamkicked when i don't spam -_-
21:27 * digitx is away (bye)
21:32 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-214-105.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #armagetron
21:32 <MrBougo> bye
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22:19 <+epsy> again completely lagged
22:20 <wrtlprnft> .6 secs are ok…
22:20 <+epsy> my ping was like 3k on café like 30 secs ago
22:20 * wrtlprnft never knew that windows displays a guge box that's flashing red and orange on installing
22:21 <+epsy> ?
22:21 * wrtlprnft has been cursing ms for the last few hours
22:21 <wrtlprnft> i'd almost have installed gentoo in that time
22:21 <wrtlprnft> and i'd have ended up with a much more functional system
22:24 <wrtlprnft> err, and i do recognize swearing when i see it, even in french
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• Website was created by nelg
• Design:
» Layout is loosely based on an old design by Durf.
» Icons on the tools page were originally by Royce, new icons added will try to follow some of the design language.
» Various other icon selections include icons from Crystal, crystalsvg, oxygen, and breeze icon themes.
» Other icons: fontawesome
is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
Gridder
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