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Log from 2007-07-31:
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00:11 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
00:11 <armabot> pong
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00:48 <LuciEatsPeople> what am I supposed to do with a dmg?
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01:01 <flashy> !
01:01 <flashy> hi ~ X ~
01:01 <xfroggy> flashy, :)
01:01 <tramshed> har
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01:16 <Lucifer_arma> man, what a pain
01:17 <luke-jr_work> :p
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01:35 <Lucifer_arma> how the hell is this e/m apparatus supposed to work?
01:44 <spidey> http://www.freetalklive.com/tunein.php
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> aha, got it
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> it's another lights-off lab :)
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02:19 <mkzelda> this apparatus must be unearthed
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02:19 <mkzelda> i look under the microscope i see golgi apparatus
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> ?
02:20 <mkzelda> you said apparatus and it reminded me of 2 songs
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> ah
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> that's weird, I never think "apparatus" without a german accent speaking it in my head
02:21 <mkzelda> and i was testing to see if anyone recognized either
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02:40 <Lucifer_arma> he's sure pushing this lecture as far as he can
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02:49 <apparition> so i was thinking...
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> bad move
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> did it hurt?
02:49 <apparition> well, at first... but then it started to feel really really good.
02:49 <apparition> normal?
02:58 <digitx> .
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08:27 <MrBougo> hiho
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_fashion   <--- I always thought "Punk Fashion" were two words that don't belong together
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> I guess they just don't make punks like they used to
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09:04 <MrBougo> oO
09:04 <MrBougo> have you guys ever experimented lucid dreaming?
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> silently
09:06 <GodTodd> ok i give up....htf do you upgrade java on ubuntu?
09:06 <GodTodd> :/
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> atp-get upgrade java ?
09:06 <GodTodd> tried that
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> there may not be a newer version available that's packaged?
09:07 <GodTodd> yep there is
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> also, you may need to update your sources first, otherwise your computer doesn't know about the upgrade
09:07 <GodTodd> java test shows i have 1.5.0_11
09:07 <GodTodd> java -version shows 1.6.0
09:07 <GodTodd> and latest bin is 1.6.0_2
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> maybe 1.6 is just a library update, and the virtual machine is the same as in 1.5?
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> are you sure you've synced your local package list with the mirrors?
09:08 <GodTodd> yep
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> apt-get update
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> sun-java is what you've got?
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you need to apt-get install sun-java6 ?
09:10 <GodTodd> did that
09:10 <GodTodd> that's how i got it
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> sure you installed all the packages for sun-java6?
09:10 <GodTodd> did apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
09:10 <MrBougo> apt-cache search java ....
09:10 <GodTodd> did that first :P
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: I just did that :)
09:10 <MrBougo> :p
09:11 <MrBougo> these guys trying to guess the package's name are so funny
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> did you try installing sun-java6-bin explicitly?
09:11 <MrBougo> "so i guess it's firefox_2_0_0_2"
09:11 <MrBougo> "or 2.0.0.2"
09:11 <GodTodd> no...but that was one of the things it installed with the jdk
09:12 <MrBougo> "or give_me_the_f__ing _firefox_now"
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> are you sure the upgrade isn't complete?  Since sun went to their java 5/java 6 deal, the versions of the actual underlying stuff aren't guaranteed to match anymore
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> like previously you had to have 1.4 of the sdk to develop for 1.4 of the virtual machine, or something like that
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09:13 <Lucifer_arma> and finally, maybe it installed them side-by-side and you just need to figure out where the new one is :)
09:13 <GodTodd> that's why i always do the current jdk
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> I hate it when they do that, but sometimes they do stuff like that for good reason (like Qt3 vs Qt4, where the two are incompatible and can coexist)
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I usually upgrade a package by targetting the -devel package, it's pretty reliable
09:14 <GodTodd> well...i did sudo update-alternatives --config java and chose the only one with a 6 in it
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, I don't know, I've just exhausted my knowledge of the subject
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> wait
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> do "which java"
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> or "ls -l `which java` "
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> see if it's a symlink
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> if it is, where does it point?
09:16 <GodTodd>  /usr/bin/java
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, what's the difference between java test and java --version ?
09:17 <MrBougo> the command
09:17 <GodTodd> java test is the one they have on their website
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you need to upgrade the plugin separately?  You definitely have to restart the browser, you did that, right?
09:17 <GodTodd> many many many times
09:17 <GodTodd> :)
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> you might need to grrrrrrrrreboot
09:19 <MrBougo> is that an alias?
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> if it were mandriva, like it or not, you'd have to reboot, because the mozilla plugin registry is only rebuilt at boot time
09:19 <GodTodd>  *         5    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java <----- that's the alternative i chose....should that match the 'which java'?
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> if /usr/bin/java is a symlink, it should point there
09:20 <GodTodd> how do i tell?
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> ls -l `which java`
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> dave@corwin:~$ ls -l `which java`
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2007-05-17 21:03 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> dave@corwin:~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/java
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2007-05-17 20:31 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> dave@corwin:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2751 2007-03-03 07:46 /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> I think I've got the gcj wrapper installed, but could be wrong
09:21 <GodTodd> yeah...they look to be pointing to the right places
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> dave@corwin:~$ gij --version
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> java version "1.4.2"
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu5)
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09:22 <GodTodd> yeah....it has you stuck on 1.4.2 too :)
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's the gnu one
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09:22 <Lucifer_arma> but I haven't bothered trying to update it, I took whatever the system installed so java applets on the web would work
09:23 <GodTodd> i'm mainly trying to see if an update of java helps the memory sucking i hate about netbeans and eclipse
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> so, it sounds like the plugin itself hasn't been updated
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> ah, probably not.  Java sucks memory, and that's a fact.  :)
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> although I suspect it's bad programming in netbeans and eclipse that's to blame
09:24 <GodTodd> i just want to be able to do other stuff when i'm developing in java....the whole add thing :)
09:24 <GodTodd> heh
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> get a different ide :)
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> eclipse being a resource hog is one of the more popular criticisms of it
09:25 <GodTodd> that's the thing....i have to use a certain one when doing class stuff (tho that's about a month off)
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> people buy new, faster, expensive machines just to feed eclipse more silicon
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> do you really?
09:25 <GodTodd> yep
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> why?
09:26 <GodTodd> because they say so?
09:26 <GodTodd> actually...the teacher i have in the fall is the one that actually knows what he's doing...so he may not care
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> ask him what he really wants :)
09:27 <GodTodd> oh...i will
09:27 <GodTodd> :)
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> if he just wants something he can build with his development kit, you've probably got more room to work
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> consider this alternative for a different class :)
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> It's possible to write makefiles for nmake by hand, which lets you use any IDE you want, and you can still turn in assignments for your instructor who requires MSVC
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> not sure about java, I guess it depends on what your instructor uses
09:28 <GodTodd> cuz honestly i could probably use kate and java -c :)
09:28 <GodTodd> er javac
09:28 <GodTodd> heh
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> also depends on the focus of the class.  If the focus of the class is the language and programming, then you'll have more freedom (typically, with a reasonable instructor)
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> but if the focus is career training, they're going to want eclipse and netbeans and there ain't fart knuckles you can do about it
09:29 <GodTodd> it's data structures
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> they should use python to teach data structures :)
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> "Here's a dictionary."
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> "Now write a class that acts like a dictionary"
09:30 <GodTodd> i would guess it's mostly a logic of programming type class
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> "Now organize your pieces in this class in abinary tree"
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> data structures?  no way!  That's an entirely separate branch of computer science
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> probably more of a survey course, if I were to guess
09:31 <GodTodd> yeah...i haven't seen *any* python classes so far tho ;)
09:31 <GodTodd> could be
09:31 <GodTodd> all's i know is i have to take it
09:31 <GodTodd> heh
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> you'll study a bunch of data structures, and you'll implement some small fraction of what you study, study different algorithms for sorting, organizing, caching, and retrieving data
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> and you'll study how standard libraries have most of the major ones already and the interfaces they expose
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> probably spend a good deal of time discussing interfaces and how to hide the particulars of the underlying structure from the interface
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> it's a large topic, probably one of the biggest CS topics around
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> on top of that, they really should try to get you to work on how to choose appropriate data structures for various problems
09:33 <GodTodd> yep
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> no point in the class at all if they don't talk about the impact of design decisions on data and all that good stuff
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> it'll probably be a pretty fun class :)
09:34 <GodTodd> i hope so
09:34 <GodTodd> since i have to suffer through govt 2 and humanities ;)
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> did you register already?
09:34 <GodTodd> yep
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> how many hours?  ;)
09:35 <GodTodd> 14
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> WUSS!  ;)
09:35  * Lucifer_arma registered for 17 this time
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> my brother has gotten ahead of me, now I have to catch up!
09:35 <GodTodd> how many you gonna drop? :P
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> NONE
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> can't drop any more
09:35 <GodTodd> like...legally?
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> no, legally I can keep on dropping, but I was looking over my degree plan and just decided enough was enough
09:36 <GodTodd> well...if i get below a C in calc 2 then i'll have 18 :)
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> keeping in mind that many 4 year universities interpret drops as Fs when they compute your GPA
09:36  * GodTodd doesn't see that happening tho
09:36 <GodTodd> yep
09:36  * GodTodd hasn't dropped any
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, last semester saw two classes dropped over my daughter's school :(
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> if it weren't for that, I don't think I'd have dropped any
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> I've also spent the summer rejuvenating, and like another kid pointed out, I was starting to feel a bit crispy around the edges last spring
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm ready to hit the ground running this fall :)
09:38 <GodTodd> i have to check...i think i'ma have like 36 credit hours total at the end of summer....not too bad for a year
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's pretty good, actually.  Dammit, you're catching up to me too!
09:38 <GodTodd> :)
09:38  * GodTodd hasn't taken any time off
09:39  * GodTodd is feeling calculus crispy about now :/
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> I think I only gained 5 credit hours last spring.  At least, only 5 that I remember
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> 4 physics and 1 fencing
09:40 <GodTodd> i think my calc-cram gamble is going to pay off
09:40 <GodTodd> so i'm feeling pretty good about that
09:40 <GodTodd> another year and i should be going to school in richardson
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> sounds like you did pretty well.  We'll hope you retain it, but that shouldn't be a big problem.  :)
09:40 <GodTodd> not with physics following on its heels :)
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> I've got my first actual hard class starting up this fall, but it's bracketed by easy stuff
09:41 <GodTodd> i wanted to take discrete math too...but the fuckers put the only offering up at the same time as the only java class offering :/
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> jerks
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> I told you I wound up not being able to sign up for fencing 2, right?
09:42 <GodTodd> yeah
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I need to revisit my schedule now that my wife's got a job
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible I could rearrange chemistry to let me take fencing 2
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> but hell, I signed up for martial arts weaponry, I should stick that one out :)
09:43 <GodTodd> heh
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> fencing 2 can wait
09:44 <GodTodd> hrmmm....what's a decent linux load average?
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> beats me
09:45 <Lucifer_arma>  02:40:53 up 23:43,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
09:45 <Lucifer_arma>  02:52:40 up 4 days, 11:29,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00  <--- my internet server
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> how do I get my dns server to serve up lan hostnames?
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> you know, now that I have a dns server
09:46 <GodTodd>  02:50:13 up 2 days,  9:12,  1 user,  load average: 6.92, 4.55, 4.49
09:46 <GodTodd> why is mine so high?
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> eclipse/netbeans
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know
09:47 <GodTodd> they haven't run in a week or more
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> top
09:47 <Lucifer_arma>  02:54:55 up  4:04,  6 users,  load average: 0.18, 0.13, 0.10  <--- my laptop, running Mandriva
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> 6 users?
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> wtf!
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> they're all me
09:48 <GodTodd> haha
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> but I only logged in once, I swear!
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> oh, wait, I'll bet it's all the konsoles I have open
09:48 <GodTodd> suuuuuuuuuuuuure :)
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's all the konsoles I have open
09:49 <GodTodd> what's beagled?
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> snoopy, summoned from the grave, appearing as a daemon
09:52 <GodTodd> :P
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://linux.die.net/man/1/beagled
09:55 <GodTodd> hmmm
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> there has got to be DSM criteria for a disorder characterized by obsessing over music categories
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> how many different words can people come up with to describe fast riff on detuned guitars with nothing but growls and screams for lyrics?
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> A distinct harsh vocal style, often a very guttural rasp or a high-pitched shriek. This vocal style is nearly universal in the black metal genre. It is distinct from death metal in this respect, as death metal bands employ low-pitched, growling vocals. Often there is a reverberation effect to make vocals sound cavernous and atmospheric.
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> what's the difference?!?
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> jesus christ
10:02  * Lucifer_arma always wondered what "Black Metal" was
10:02 <GodTodd> heh
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> I know what it is
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> but this is going to be more tinfoilhattery
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's the divide and conquer method
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> divide metalheads into a bunch of subgroups, and then conquer the whole lot of 'em
10:04 <spidey> lol
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> I remember how it appeared to be so necessary in 1990 to differentiate yourself from "black metal" and "devil music" if you're a metalhead
10:05 <GodTodd> bah...metal as we knew it is dead :/
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> yep, because we were divided and conquered
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> too much knee-jerk "I don't hate god, even if one of my favorite bands is called eyehategod"
10:05  * Lucifer_arma wonders what eyehategod would be classified as
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> ah, Sludge Metal
10:10 <MrBougo> ew
10:10 <MrBougo> i hate metal :)
10:14 <MrBougo> Firefox 2.0.0.6 out
10:14 <MrBougo> critical fault fixed
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> eyehatebelgium
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> hey, new band name!
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> some lyrics:
10:15 <MrBougo> nah!
10:15 <MrBougo> i wont read that
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> "Never met a woman with a good antwerp kiss"
10:16 <MrBougo> something about fries, waffles, beer or chocolate
10:16 <MrBougo> whatever
10:16 <MrBougo> wtf's a antwerp kiss
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> a mere shadow of a french kiss :)
10:16 <MrBougo> a
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's in a red dwarf episode
10:17 <MrBougo> wtf
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> lister kisses a woman who tells him she's his sister, and she's a nun, and he french kissed her
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> and he says "noo, it was nearer Antwerp.  I Belgium-kissed you"
10:17 <MrBougo> wtf
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> oo, that might be in the last episode
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> you know you've gone category crazy with a band when you need 4 categories to properly categorize them
10:18  * Lucifer_arma misses the days when you said neoclassical, thrash, speed, or death, and that was it
10:18  * Lucifer_arma hated all the labels back then, too
10:18 <MrBougo> now it's complicated, right
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, see, the bands I usually listen to are kind of a cross section of all these labels I see now
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> so it's striking me as pretty weird.  NOrmally you like everything within a genre, that's what makes it a genre!
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> so it doesn't make sense to me, that's all
10:20 <MrBougo> nah, i dont think so
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> I understand jazz getting subgenres based on the geographical origin of the styles, that makes sense!  Chicago jazz is really distinct from NOLA jazz, which is in turn distinct from dixieland jazz, etc.
10:20 <MrBougo> i like progressive house, but not EVERYTHING
10:21 <MrBougo> just like trance
10:21 <MrBougo> about one half is crap
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, in every genre there's a core of originals that are good, and a bunch of idiot copycats trying to make money off a fad
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> or that just suck otherwise
10:21 <MrBougo> i think i like a genre that doesn't even exist
10:21 <MrBougo> it will some time
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> maybe that's true for me, too.  There is a common thread in all the music I like
10:22 <MrBougo> proggy house/electro/trancey hybrid
10:22 <MrBougo> these categories are subjective imo
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> totally
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> I have to say all the bands listed as grindcore were originally called death metal
10:22 <MrBougo> so you can't say that you like everything in a category that you didnt create
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> and death metal was distinct from mainstream metal, so the distinction made sense
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> but the difference between grindcore, death metal, and sludge metal (and who knows what else) is just splitting hairs
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> I think I said everything I have to say on the subject while playing arma :)
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> did you ever play with a guy who called himself Metallica?
10:25 <MrBougo> dont think so
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> hm
10:25 <MrBougo> but i guess why you talked about music with him :p
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> so one night we're playing on eggcozy's server, and he's going around trying to core dump people
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> and I've just gone through something resembling a melee where I got most of the points (and take credit for most of the core dumps)
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> and I came out fast
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> so I came up on him, touched his wall on one side, swung out, and he swung out to cut me off
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> and I swung back and boxed him
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> it happened in like half a second
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> and he died
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> and I said "You think you're hardcore?!?"
10:27 <MrBougo> haha
10:28 <MrBougo> DAMN home key
10:28 <MrBougo> i'll break my finger on it some day
10:28 <MrBougo> dont try this at home!
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> no, try it at end!
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> or page down!
10:28 <MrBougo> wtf
10:29 <MrBougo> :(
10:29 <MrBougo> i blame aceton
10:29 <MrBougo> ever seen a mouse glued by aceton?
10:50 <DrJoeTron> http://youtube.com/watch?v=wm-h1NZZVys
10:52 <MrBougo> wtf joe
10:52 <MrBougo> rofl
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13:10 <epsy> hi
13:13 <digitx> hi
13:13 <digitx> Excellent.
13:13 <digitx> Indeed!
13:13 <digitx> :0
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14:28  * digitx is away (bye)
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14:58 <MrBougo> hiho
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15:29 <DrJoeTron> what would be a good horn
15:31 <gltron> horn?
15:31 <gltron> you mean, the musical instrument?
15:31 <DrJoeTron> nah those beep beep things on cars
15:31 <DrJoeTron> for trackmania united
15:32 <gltron> one of those annoying cellphone ringtones perhaps?
15:33 <gltron> Moorhuhn sounds come to mind
15:33 <gltron> or Cartman shouting "mom! bathroom!"
15:33 <DrJoeTron> naaah
15:33 <gltron> personally I'd got for a ship's horn sound though, always classic
15:34 <DrJoeTron> fog horn would be kinda cute
15:34 <MrBougo> rofl
15:34 <MrBougo> oh right you can customize your horn
15:34 <gltron> yep, that's the one I ment
15:34 <gltron> train whistle is also good
15:34 <gltron> not the most original though
15:35 <gltron> but if you're surrounded by teenagers with fart sounds, it's perhaps necessary to keep a bit on the conservative side
15:41 <epsy> how do i count how many times something appears in vim ?
15:44 <epsy> nvm
15:45 <gltron> did you find out?
15:47 <epsy> yes, here http://textsnippets.com/posts/show/882
15:48 <gltron> nice trick
15:48 <epsy> yea :P
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15:57 <epsy> i wonder what happened to tinyurl.com
15:58 <epsy> i have problems fosting images with it
16:04 <MrBougo> fosting?
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16:06 <epsy> MrBougo, hosting
16:06 <epsy> :)
16:06 <MrBougo> oh
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16:17 <MrBougo> i'm bored
16:18 <DrJoeTron> buy tmu
16:18 <MrBougo> whatever
16:23 <MrBougo> bye
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16:31 <epsy> http://beta.armagetronad.net/ times out :/
16:38 <DrJoeTron> ah the perfect horn
16:38 <DrJoeTron> one massive screeching sound
17:11 <epsy> #armaconfig idle_kickçtime
17:11 <armabot> epsy: Sorry, no matches :S
17:11 <epsy> #armaconfig idle_kick_time
17:11 <armabot> epsy: IDLE_KICK_TIME: Time in seconds after which an inactive player is kicked (default: 0)
17:24 <digitx> :D
17:24 <digitx> #armaconfig epsy
17:24 <armabot> digitx: Sorry, no matches :S
17:24 <digitx> :S
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19:43 <MrBougo> brb
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20:32 <MrBougo> hihoo
20:32 <Stempo> MR Bougo!
20:32 <MrBougo> been a while
20:32 <Stempo> where's MrBoto?
20:32 <Stempo> MrBoto <3
20:32 <Stempo> :(
20:32 <Stempo> heya welcome back
20:32 <MrBougo> he's sleeping
20:32 <Stempo> :o
20:32 <MrBougo> you too :)
20:32 <Stempo> :-D
20:32 <MrBougo> wb you too
20:32 <Stempo> I never left
20:32 <Stempo> :O
20:32 <MrBougo> oh lol
20:33 <Stempo> lol
20:33 <Stempo> is Luci here? >.>
20:33 <Stempo> <.<
20:33 <Stempo> ...
20:33 -!- MrBoto [i=mrbougo@moruroa.phoenix-network.org] has joined #armagetron
20:33 <Stempo> woot!
20:33 <MrBougo> mebbe
20:33 <Stempo> MrBoto <3
20:33 <MrBoto> MrBoto <3 Stempo too :3
20:33 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma
20:33 <Stempo> ^_^
20:33 <MrBougo> &list alias
20:33 <MrBoto> MrBougo: </3, <3, add, hello, leave, lock, remove, and unlock
20:34 <Stempo> lol
20:34 <MrBougo> MrBoto </3
20:34 <MrBoto> D": D"""":
20:34 <Stempo> lmao
20:34 <MrBougo> MrBoto <3
20:34 <MrBoto> MrBoto <3 MrBougo too :3
20:34 <MrBougo> alias remove leave
20:34 <MrBougo> MrBoto hello
20:34 <MrBoto> Hi there >:DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
20:34 <Stempo> we're such spammers
20:34 <Stempo> if Luci is here he'll kick me ;O
20:34 <Stempo> MrBoto <3
20:34 <MrBoto> MrBoto <3 Stempo too :3
20:34 <Stempo> don't leave me!
20:34 <Stempo> xD
20:35 <Stempo> How was your vacation MrB
20:36 <MrBougo> ood :)
20:36 <MrBougo> g*
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20:39 <Stempo> ood sounds like some much fun
20:39 <Stempo> so*
20:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
20:43 -!- Stempo was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [you bet your ass!]
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20:49 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma admin more like badmin
20:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
20:49 -!- DrJoeTron was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [you bet your ass!]
20:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
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20:50 <DrJoeTron> IM GONNA TELL ZMAN AND U'LL LOSE UR SERVER
20:51 <Lucifer_arma> heh
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20:52 <Lucifer_arma> she joined and said "NOOOO!  Luci's still there!!!!!"
20:52 <Lucifer_arma> so, in the ongoing drama with my daughter's school, the principal has resigned, saying she's so inspired by the stay-at-home moms she's met this year that she wants to stay home with her kids
20:53 <Lucifer_arma> the teacher and the counselor have both left the school, but there's no indication that they were fired or that they quit
20:53 <Lucifer_arma> the principal leaving would generate a press release, but the teacher and counselor leaving wouldn't
20:53 <Lucifer_arma> it's unclear right now if the nurse will still be there or not
20:54 <DrJoeTron> WAY TO MARTYR YOUR KIDS Lucifer_arma
20:54 <Lucifer_arma> if the nurse is still there, then I'm inclined to think it's just a wild coincidence that the three ladies left when they did, but if the nurse isn't, I'm inclined to think that something happened I don't know about but is related :)
20:54 <DrJoeTron> ;V
20:54  * Lucifer_arma sends joe a keyboard with a working caps lock key
20:55 <DrJoeTron> or cut my pinky off so i dont mash the shift key
21:04 <spidey> nubcake :D
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21:46 <epsy> #any
21:46 <armabot> epsy: Someone was last seen in #armagetron 22 seconds ago: *** epsy has joined #armagetron
21:46 <epsy> #any epsy
21:46 <armabot> epsy: epsy was last seen in #armagetron 3 seconds ago: <epsy> #any
21:46 <epsy> ...
21:47 <epsy> #realchatlogs
21:47 <armabot> epsy: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
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22:35 <xfroggy> #seen zelda
22:35 <armabot> xfroggy: I have not seen zelda.
22:35 <xfroggy> lol Oo
22:35 <xfroggy> mkzelda, ping
22:45  * digitx is away (bye)
22:57 <epsy> hay xfroggy
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23:12 <xfroggy> epsy, :D
23:13 <luke-jr_work> someone should open a black market and sell high end CPUs for $1 ea
23:13 <spidey> you do that for us
23:14 <xfroggy> luke-jr_work, fill me in when you find out about it :)
23:14 <spidey> yea
23:14 <spidey> i'll overstock on them :D
23:14 <xfroggy> :D
23:14 <luke-jr_work> :)
23:14 <spidey> then you can open a motherboard black market
23:14 <spidey> and then ram
23:14 <spidey> then gfx
23:14 <xfroggy> & hdd
23:14 <MrBoto> xfroggy: Error: "hdd" is not a valid command.
23:14 <luke-jr_work> only Intel & ATi for gfx
23:15 <spidey> lol
23:15 <xfroggy> O_o
23:15 <spidey> intel and ati blow
23:15 <spidey> ati made good old cards
23:15 <xfroggy> O_o /me amd & nvidia fan :S
23:15 <spidey> this 9250 is still kicking :p
23:15 <luke-jr_work> AMD = ATi
23:15 <xfroggy> yea now
23:16 <luke-jr_work> Intel chipsets are the best on the market right now
23:16 <xfroggy> I still havent bought anything since they merged
23:16 <luke-jr_work> but only onboard :/
23:16 <luke-jr_work> xfroggy: I'm expecting software upgrades :)
23:16 <xfroggy> :D
23:16 <luke-jr_work> as in, my FPS goes up 4 times with Xorg 7.2
23:16 <luke-jr_work> or 7.3 more likely
23:16 <xfroggy> hmm
23:17 <xfroggy> we'll see if that's going to happen
23:17 <luke-jr_work> once fglrx's code is released and gets merged into r300
23:17 <luke-jr_work> it is
23:17 <luke-jr_work> AMD already announced it
23:17 <xfroggy> Oo I haven't been keeping up with the news :S
23:17 <luke-jr_work> :D
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