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Log from 2007-06-21:
--- Day changed Thu Jun 21 2007
00:27 <P4> when i use that pipe $parser | tron | tea i cannot send any commands in screened server console, is it normal pipe behaviour??
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00:47 <_Sticky_> #tea
00:47 <armabot> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Indigo, madmax, Mirakuru, ntc, Radian, ~*SP*~ ØLÊfÀ	~*
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01:49 <hulett> wrtlprnft: Hah. I, too, judiciously use message highlights to carry on IRC conversations with days/hours of pause.
02:06 <duudii> test
02:09 <luke-jr_> hulett:
02:09 <hulett> Hrm?
02:10 <Lucifer_arma> ...
02:10 <luke-jr_> ...
02:11 <Lucifer_arma> #m Durka how close to game time you can add/drop depends entirely on when you can talk to a judge.  It's not "notify a judge", it's "seek the approval of a judge", and then it's the judge's call whether or not you can do the add/drop.
02:11 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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06:10 <mkzelda> hahaha
06:10 <mkzelda> i was playin tron and my left turns werent working sometimes so i pulled the keys off my keyboard to try and see if i had something stuck in there
06:11 <mkzelda> and i found some weed
06:11 <mkzelda> haha
06:11 <mkzelda> and since ive been on probation for 2 years 9 months, i guess thats been there all that time
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06:17 <mkzelda> im gonna pull all the keys off now
06:22 <mkzelda> theres some pieces of cookies from christmas
06:22 <mkzelda> sad thing is i dont think i had those cookies this past christmas
06:23 <mkzelda> 7/-1.
06:23 <mkzelda> 3
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07:25 <wrtlprnft> hulett: aren't awaylogs a great thing?
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12:34 <arctanx> I have a question... where do you run the dedicated server if you compile from source?
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13:03 <MrBougo> nder
13:03 <MrBougo> oops
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14:31 <wrtlprnft> arctanx: you need to ./configure --disable-glout
14:31 <arctanx> ahah
14:31 <wrtlprnft> you can only either compile the client or server
14:32 <wrtlprnft> bad sentence.
14:32 <arctanx> so it was in ./configure --help :P
14:32 <arctanx> thanks
14:32 <wrtlprnft> yw
14:32 <wrtlprnft> i know, the name sort of sucks
14:32 <wrtlprnft> it's not what you would ever search for
14:33 <arctanx> I got stuck too by make install not working if you rename the armagetron- dir to armagetron :P
14:33 <arctanx> funny stuff
14:35 <arctanx> I'm trying to set up a server on my virtual server in america
14:35 <arctanx> will probably be unplayable from here :P
14:40 <arctanx> hmm 280ish
14:40 <arctanx> so would depend on game type
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16:45 <MrBougo> hey there
16:46 <philippeqc> hi
16:46 <philippeqc> Have you seen ed's maps?
16:46 <philippeqc> Really neat
16:46 <wrtlprnft> yeah :)
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16:47 <wrtlprnft> though the one with the big wheel is slightly pointless as you don't have to get to the centre
16:48 <philippeqc> yes I figured that too
16:48 <madmax|pt> nice work on the zones philippeqc :D
16:49 <philippeqc> ty
16:49 <philippeqc> but ed made the maps
16:50 <madmax|pt> yeah I know. but there's a lot of possibilities now
16:50 <philippeqc> yes there are
16:51 <madmax|pt> btw, is nemo "away"? I can't seem to build svn because of boost :|
16:51 <philippeqc> and not all the possibilities have been "found" yet
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18:50 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7306 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added an acceleration effect for the zones
18:53 <philippeqc> check it out with the following
18:56 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/AccelerationZone-a.aamap.xml (http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/AccelerationZone-a.aamap.xml)
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19:34 <madmax|pt> would it be possible for a player only get points for kills in other zones besides his? like when your zone collapses and you go to another zone
19:35 <madmax|pt> its kind of "cheap" for the player to get credit for conquering the zone too. giving only points for kills would fix that
19:35 <madmax|pt> er, sumo context btw
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19:39 <MrBougo> hi - ho
19:39 <MrBougo>  
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19:44 <mkzelda> yea, its more cheap when it starts someone off in a zone by themself and all they have to do is race over to the zone w/ 3 or 4 ppl
19:44 <mkzelda> w/ no requirement of protecting their own zone like everyone else
19:44 <mkzelda> they can just split the middle and camp a bit and do it all over again
19:49 <epsy> brb
19:49 <MrBougo> mkzelda: i luv leeching zone points :P
19:49 <MrBougo> i am teh weakzor
19:55 <Vanhayes> #last --with dns
19:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 30163 messages.
19:55 <MrBougo> aha
19:55 <MrBougo> #last --with TCP
19:55 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 30168 messages.
19:55 <MrBougo> your turn
19:56 <epsy> did ph posted his 1337th message ?
19:56 <epsy> :)
19:56 <MrBougo> ph?
19:56 <epsy> philippecq
19:56 <MrBougo> oh
20:01 <MrBougo> #ping
20:01 <armabot> pong
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20:11 <madmax|pt> mkzelda: do you know if its possible?
20:13 <epsy> with zones v2 yeah
20:13 <epsy> even easly
20:14 <madmax|pt> i think i'll bump some random sumo thread
20:16 <epsy> man
20:16 <epsy> create a new one
20:16  * epsy thinks about the advantage of an irc server for arma
20:16 <epsy> *the adventages
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20:19 <Durka> #m Lucifer_arma How do we go about adding eggcozy to newbÎe's team?
20:19 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
20:19 <Durka> kkthxbye
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20:19 <mkzelda> epsy: do you mean a built in irc client like ut has?
20:22 <epsy> no, an irc server
20:22 <epsy> like irc.armagetronad.net
20:22 <mkzelda> why would that help?
20:22 <epsy> we won'T worry anymore creating channels like #afl.teamname
20:23 <mkzelda> why is that a worry?
20:23 <mkzelda> if it were on another network i wouldnt want to go there
20:27 <epsy> why ?
20:27 <P4> mkzelda i can set relay using supybot :}
20:28 <mkzelda> cause i hate having to join networks just for one thing
20:28 <P4> same here :P
20:28 <epsy> one thing or one channel ?
20:28 <mkzelda> both
20:29 <epsy> i'm worrying this would be a channel spam if we reate team channels
20:29 <epsy> *create
20:29 <mkzelda> i dont get how it'd be any different on anothe rnetwork
20:30 <Vanhayes> #tea
20:30 <epsy> on OUR network
20:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): angry n:00b, CT|play, eggcozy, lucky bub, madmax, Mågñïd©	hello, Monkey, Ossi, Phantom, Rumpelstiltskin, SlµQM, ~|DS|~ judders, ¦×¥ Legit
20:30 <mkzelda> yea, how would it be different there?
20:30 <mkzelda> u'd still want private channels for whatever reason u want them here
20:30 <epsy> van: say hello to monk from me
20:31 <epsy> yes
20:31 <epsy> and i wont worry there's too munch channels related to arma
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> there's thousands of channels here already
20:32 <mkzelda> i dont understand what the 'worry' is
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20:32 <epsy> paranoya ?
20:33 <mkzelda> i dont understand what the paranoia is
20:33 <epsy> #t fr en paranoya
20:33 <armabot> epsy: paranoya
20:34 <epsy> not even sure how i spell it in french -.-
20:34 <epsy> ok that's probably just me
20:34 <mkzelda> if u dont want people in your channel just set a key or something
20:35 <MrBougo> epsy, paranoïa
20:35 <MrBougo> tu sais, les paranoiaques
20:35 <MrBougo> parano
20:35 <MrBougo> arf y'a confusion, sry
20:36 <epsy> but if we count...so i would say #armagetron, #arma-devel...so if we add the 8 biggest arma gameclans, then like 12 server channels, then tournaments
20:36 <epsy> we get like 25 channels
20:36 <MrBougo> whew
20:36 <MrBougo> even the freenode staff doesnt have that much chans
20:36 <mkzelda> and how would that be any different on the other network
20:37 <mkzelda> on "our" network
20:37 <epsy> #t fr en paranoia
20:37 <armabot> epsy: paranoia
20:37 <mkzelda> u'd still have all those same channels there
20:37  * epsy slaps amabot
20:37 <epsy> well, remember this irc network aint to be random stuff
20:38 <epsy> it's basically to discuss around free software
20:38 <epsy> 25 chans around one GAME would be way too munch here
20:38 <MrBougo> munch?
20:38 <MrBougo> edvard munch?
20:39 <epsy> *many
20:39 <MrBougo> epsy, paranoia is paranoia in english
20:39 <epsy> ah
20:39 <MrBougo> dont slap armabot, it's right :p
20:39  * epsy didn't slapped armabot and gives her a kiss
20:43 <epsy> c t dla paranoia ça :P
20:44 <epsy> #armalogs
20:45 <epsy> #realchatlogs
20:45 <armabot> epsy: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
20:46 <P4> epsy
20:46 <P4> i got that crappy q3 based ame
20:46 <P4> game*
20:46 <P4> :P
20:46 <MrBougo> P4, tremulous?
20:46 <P4> tak
20:46 <P4> i mean yes
20:46 <P4> brb (smoking after eating)
20:47 <mkzelda> crappy?
20:47 <mkzelda> nexuiz?
20:47 <P4> nexus? :P
20:47  * P4 goes to 00 room
20:47 <mkzelda> nex e us
20:47 <mkzelda> its q1 based anyhow :D
20:53 <epsy> lol
20:54 <epsy> nexus is sometimes weird in trem
20:54 <epsy> try with a mara to juöp on a dor
20:54 <epsy> you'ill get smashed
20:55 <MrBougo> juöp
20:55 <MrBougo> epsy, c'est laquelle nexuz?
20:55 <epsy> nexus corp infusion plant
20:55 <epsy> att
20:55 <epsy> err
20:55 <epsy> tu m'embrouilles !
20:55 <MrBougo> wé mais laquellle?
20:55 <MrBougo> elle ressemble à quoi
20:58 <mkzelda> ill play nexuiz
20:59 <epsy> celui avec la base humaine a cote d'un truc bizarre
20:59 <MrBougo> ah ça m'aide
20:59 <epsy> un liquide vert
20:59 <MrBougo> ah wé je vois
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21:26 <epsy> WB
21:27 <epsy> #armaservers
21:27 <armabot> epsy: This data is 20 seconds old; Fortress Café (13/32), Norm's Place (10/12), Wild West  =Wild Fortress= (8/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), The YELLOW Submarine (7/16), iD tech camps (6/16), Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (6/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (6/14), Shrunkland in (2 more messages)
21:27 <epsy> #more
21:27 <armabot> epsy: 2.8.2 (5/6), ~\Yg\~ Dyno's Server (5/6), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (5/16), The Tavern (5/16), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (4/12), Swampland in 2.7.1 (4/8), RIVERS OF ZADDA (3/16), {Delicious Desserts} Custom Map (3/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (3/10), SPACEZONE III (3/15), {Delicious Deserts Clone} Ninja Dedicated (2/16), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d - N.A. Division (1 more message)
21:27 <epsy> #tea
21:27 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): $!th¥	angry n:0, deadlock, Ðù§s, eggcozy, madmax, mgc, Ossi, Rumpelstiltskin, tom, Zop, [UPZ] -Enjoi-, ~*SP*~Sasha, ¦Ö¦Legit
21:31 <madmax|pt> heh i set my mark at 260ms
21:34 <madmax|pt> #bigbrother
21:34 <armabot> madmax|pt: |AST| legendary has last been seen on Norm's Place 1 minute ago.
21:50  * epsy clams down
21:50 <epsy> *calms
21:52 <epsy> cafe is REALLY getting loud
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21:53 <epsy> zop starts saying plage sucked and made'em lost their round
21:54 <epsy> then plage answers zop hasn't to tell him how to play
21:54 <epsy> then they poll each other
21:54 <epsy> and all says "YEAH KICK"
21:56 <madmax|pt> let me guess, Zop and the double grinding subject?
21:56 <madmax|pt> hi G5
21:56 <epsy> no
21:56 <madmax|pt> no? :o
21:56 <epsy> he just drove accidentally into my wall
21:56 <madmax|pt> lol
21:56 <epsy> i can't play anymore there having polls each 30 seconds
21:56  * madmax|pt joins
21:57 <epsy> this is really getting loud
21:57 <epsy> i quitted yelling
21:57 <madmax|pt> you're mayn right?
21:59 <epsy> yep
22:03 <madmax|pt> i think you're over reacting
22:03 <mkzelda> i think you're complaining more than there are polls
22:04 <epsy> well, i play really often there
22:04 <epsy> and it'S really annoying how they WANT to kick
22:06 <madmax|pt> you play often there? o_O
22:06 <madmax|pt> are you sure?
22:07 <madmax|pt> I don't see your point in "polling" everyone
22:08 <madmax|pt> that doesn't happen that often
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> wasn't zop the one everyone was saying they wanted to come back?
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> and I said he was a known smeghead, and people got mad
22:10 <madmax|pt> pretty much
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know where I can get an svg of a swallow?
22:11 <luke-jr_work> the bird?
22:11 <mkzelda> no luke's mom
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> not that kind of swallow
22:11 <epsy> ...
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> I want to make a flyer that says "What *is* the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?  (african or european)  Take Physics and find out!"
22:12 <epsy> you're so loud with luke that he always get loud -.-'
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> (they just installed a bunch of those cork bulletin boards and the anatomy lab guy has already put something up)
22:12 <madmax|pt> epsy: I'm amazed on how CAPSy you are about Café being "loud" (whatever that may be)
22:13 <epsy> leaving cafe
22:13 <mkzelda> african or european?
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> you did know that eps is french for caps, right?
22:13 <epsy> wont come back there
22:13 <epsy> luci: stoop being noobying max :P
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22:14 <madmax|pt> i thought that was common sense!
22:14 -!- epsy [n=epsy@pD9E31B8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
22:15 <Monkey_> i dont know what conversation you're having but common sense on arma? no ....
22:17 <mkzelda> theres no room for that
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> common sense is like toilet paper
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's useful in cleaning up shit
22:19 <madmax|pt> there should be a graph of the number of polls on the main fortress server since CVS Test until now
22:20 <madmax|pt> wonder if it has reduced
22:20 <Monkey_> just for a laugh wrtl should recompile arma on cafe to kick all players who vote yes...that would be hilarious
22:23 <mkzelda> then i could tk everyone, poll myself, and laugh
22:23 <Monkey_> yep
22:23 <Monkey_> :)
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22:24 <Monkey_> ok so dont allow self-poll....
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22:25 <Monkey_> or have "auto_kick_if_self_poll"
22:25 <mkzelda> anyway i'd just tk, get polled
22:25 <mkzelda> and everyone who voted yes would get kicked
22:25 <mkzelda> great idea
22:26 <mkzelda> i could yell NIGGAR!!!1!! too
22:26 <mkzelda> thats popular
22:26 <Monkey_> ok how about random people get kicked...
22:27 <mkzelda> also cool
22:28 <madmax|pt> lol
22:28 <madmax|pt> "Hourly random kick"
22:28 <madmax|pt> sounds good
22:29 <madmax|pt> with big, red letters in caps announcing it
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22:38 <Monkey_> we need to have a dedicated server for organised matches. some of us have been discussing it but we cant think of a server that we can dedicate to this continuosly
22:40 <eddiefantastic> Monkey, I'll make you a server, with random maps and shit
22:40 <Monkey_> i still dont believe you are the real ed
22:41 <Monkey_> no way
22:41 <Monkey_> ed would not say "CT has lost its way"
22:41 <Monkey_> and you seem to have the admin for cafe ..should you have that?
22:42 <eddiefantastic> go ask wrtlprnft, ed has admin
22:42 <Monkey_> ed does yes. but you claim to be ed
22:42 <Monkey_> and some of us dont believe a word..
22:42 <eddiefantastic> ok
22:43 <madmax|pt> we don't?
22:43 <Monkey_> not u max...me and epsy and some others
22:43 <Monkey_> you make your own mind ;)
22:43 <Monkey_> test him
22:43 <eddiefantastic> epsy doesn't believe me?
22:43 <Monkey_> no
22:43 <Monkey_> me neither
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> man, can we get less drama around here?  This is supposed to be a game!
22:44 <Monkey_> now i can tell that lucifer is not an imposter ;)
22:45 <eddiefantastic> but one of the fun aspects of the game is the drama ;)
22:45 <madmax|pt> btw Lucifer_arma, Hawk was asking if they could change the team name. from "unnamed team" to something else
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> haha
22:45 <eddiefantastic> named team
22:46 <madmax|pt> that would be more precise!
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I put a comment on both unnamed team pages asking them to put in names
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> on one of them I put "your team name is now final"  ;)
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, sure, I don't care, just put it on the talk page and I'll get to it when I'm working on the schedule
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> team pages have to be locked though to make sure nobody goes and changes their roster, which they're not supposed to do :)
22:46 <Monkey_> i said to them to hurry up but they are slow . i told him today his team is now "unnamed team 1" officially ;)
22:47 <Monkey_> teach them to move it
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> right now I'm making a flyer to show up the anatomy/physiology guys :)
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> (he did tease me to put something up, after all...)
22:50 <Monkey_> so is eddiefantastic the real ed then lucifer?
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> fuck if I know
22:50 <Monkey_> i am waiting for the "i dont care"
22:50 <Monkey_> :)
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> I never made the connection between him and ed anyway ;)
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> "Am I the real Lucifer?"
22:51 <Monkey_> i think so
22:52  * Lucifer_arma wants instant chats in irc
22:53 <Monkey_> use cut copy and paste from a text file
22:53 <Monkey_> ;)
22:53  * eddiefantastic wants copy and paste in arma
22:54 <Monkey_> ok eddie. you can make us a server. we want no stupid maps or deathzones or winzones......we want admin pass. ok?
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> eddiefantastic: it should be available, ou can get access to it from glu, iirc
22:55 <eddiefantastic> glu?
22:55 <eddiefantastic> sounds tempting Monkey
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I think it's glu, I forget
22:56 <madmax|pt> why not just ban all lag related words? that'd fix most tron drama
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> maybe we use sdl for all our windowing needs, but I think it's available in sdl too
22:56 <madmax|pt> or at least it would get less annoying sometimes :D
22:57 <Monkey_> you need to have a list of search terms compiled in and if found, random bad things happen to you that no one else knows about and that you cant talk about because you get silenced
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> yay for an OS that doesn't require me to push a "eject this media" button before pulling my usb flash drive out
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> maybe if this was closed source that sort of thing would be worth a laugh or two
22:58  * Lucifer_arma is going to interrupt the geology class by using the printer
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> damn, parts got cut off
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> alright, now we'll have a buttload of physics students next semester, right?  ;)
23:41 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic, Monkey_: Can't you just both join CTWF/café/whatever and have ed demonstrate that he can log in?
23:41 <Monkey_> wrtl ...anyone can get hold of passwords etc. durka was hacked...etc
23:41 <Monkey_> etc etc etc
23:41 <Monkey_> :)
23:43 <wrtlprnft> what about the ed on the CT forums?
23:45 <Monkey_> the ed on the CT forums i dont know
23:45 <Monkey_> i will look at forums
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23:46 <wrtlprnft> Monkey_: do you believe that CTWF is hosted by crazy-tronners, hosted at crazy-tronners.com?
23:46 <Monkey_> it probably is ed on forums...but i will look later anyway
23:47 <Monkey_> ctwf should be that i think yes..why?
23:47 <Monkey_> sounds reasonable
23:47 <wrtlprnft> anyways, the domain crazy-tronners.com points to the IP of the CTWF server
23:48 <Monkey_> ok
23:48 <Monkey_> but have you seen the tricks  to do "admin" chat?
23:48 <Monkey_> it is easy to fool people
23:48 <Monkey_> to think admin is online
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> it's also easy to see who it is
23:49 <wrtlprnft> Monkey_: what's the latest such trick=
23:49 <Monkey_> i will get someone to show you sometime :)
23:49 <Monkey_> its not so easy
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer: Watch out for my wall!\n0xff0000Admin: 0xwhateverNext asshat that says that is going to get kicked.
23:50 <Monkey_> it depends how clever they are
23:50 <wrtlprnft> does that work?
23:50 <Monkey_> yes
23:50 <wrtlprnft> \n is parsed?!
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> it used to, but I thought we fixed it.  :)  maybe it's pending in 0.2.8
23:50 <Monkey_> people can use false players and all sorts
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> I thought \n was parsed
23:51 <wrtlprnft> in the trunk it's not, just tested it
23:51 <Monkey_> .2.8 on client or server ?
23:51 <wrtlprnft> server
23:51 <Monkey_> i will get some "experts" to test it
23:51 <Monkey_> :)
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's not.  There did used to be a way to insert CR/LF
23:51  * wrtlprnft wonders what would happen if the client sent a real \n
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23:52 <Lucifer_arma> I think encoding the linefeed into the chat was fixed for 0.2.8 because there were problems in with it, or maybe it's one of the bugs jonathan and nemo uncovered with their rigorous chat tests
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> and iirc, someone made Admin a reserved name, or maybe we just talked about it?
23:53 <wrtlprnft> i think we just talked about it
23:53 <wrtlprnft> even if we did, 0xff0000Admin would still work on most servers
23:53 <Monkey_> lol
23:54 <wrtlprnft> or Ad0xff0000min, i'm sure that's not checked
23:54 <Monkey_> i can tell because of my resolution :)
23:54 <Monkey_> i play in 320 200
23:54 <Monkey_> but even then there seem to be different ways
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> posing as admin is a trick that's as old as darpa, I'm sure
23:55 <wrtlprnft> anyways, there's more ways to prove you're the admin than /admin say
23:55 <Monkey_> yes but they are also foolable
23:55 <wrtlprnft> just change the rubber to some slightly different value
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> yep
23:55 <Monkey_> TRUSTME
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> center message is my favorite
23:56 <wrtlprnft> or change admin
23:56 <wrtlprnft> _pass for a second and let the other guy log in, kick him and reset the password
23:56 <wrtlprnft> though that's sort of dangerous
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> just make it output a string that's longer than allowed nickname strings and nobody will be able to pose as admin any more
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> something like 0xff0000Message from this server's administrator:
23:57 <Monkey_> one good way would be to load a map
23:57 <Monkey_> that is hard to fool
23:57 <wrtlprnft> too intrusive
23:57 <Monkey_> true
23:58 <luke-jr_work> strip                (1p)  - remove unnecessary information from executable files (DEVELOPMENT)
23:58 <wrtlprnft> another nice way to prove ssh access would be to have the guy /msg someone else, then read the logs and tell him what he just said
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> just put in your in-between-round-tips script a tip that says "To find out if the poser is real admin or just a poser, type /players"
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> real admins don't have to prove themselves, though
23:58 <Monkey_> hmm there is probably a way round that
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> only posers have to prove themselves
23:59 <Monkey_> true
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> real admins can just kick the smegheads and move on and not care if anybody believes their a real admin or not
23:59 <Monkey_> what does Ct ed normally use on irc? as a nick?
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> and if they poll him, check the logs and temporarily ban whoever started the poll :)
23:59 <wrtlprnft> Monkey_: if you can show me that way, it's a bug, report it
23:59 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic.
23:59 <Monkey_> for how long has he been doing that?

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