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Log from 2007-02-21:
--- Day changed Wed Feb 21 2007
00:17 <ghableska> #weather 50266
00:17 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (5:16 PM CST on February 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 28.77 in 974.2 hPa. 
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01:01 <mkzelda> this bug keeps happening in fort cafe, random lines appear in the def zone (so far ive only seen it happen to the def's box), crashing the def into a line that should not be there
01:01 <mkzelda> sometimes its a sweeper's line that has magically gone thru the def's box, 
01:02 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
01:02 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): CTDimbiman, CT|play, Dez, featherfcuk, Legit, Pez, Plµ$, [#Y3$#] Snake, |)()()|{/-\733, ¦Ö¦Sticky
01:03 <ghableska> #lastseen ghableska
01:04 <armabot> ghableska: timed out
01:04 <ghableska> -_-
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02:24 <DrJoeTron> good
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02:37 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
02:37 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Southall Subdivision, Raleigh, North Carolina is 60.1°F (8:40 PM EST on February 20, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa. 
02:38 <mkzelda> was freakin cold yesterday and now its hot
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02:39 -!- Plu is now known as Plus
02:40 <Plus> Hello world!
02:40 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 16°F / -9°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.69in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 13 with temperature rising to minus 6 by morning.; Wednesday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries early in the morning. Clearing in the morning. High (1 more message)
02:55 <Plus> durka is being kept hostage!!!
02:55 <Plus> since when is there a 20 o'clock
02:56 <Plus> #weather maine
02:56 <armabot> Plus: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "maine".
02:59 <Vanhayes> #night
02:59 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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03:32 <Lucifer_arma> 20 o'clock is the hour after 19 o'clock and before 21 o'clock
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: you using the trunk still?  I've been getting random rendering anomalies there
03:38 <Plus> hello lucifer ;]
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> hi Plus (hi there!) 
03:39 <Plus> no one on armagetron to play with, so i'm forced to play with {CT}kyle talking about nothing in Crazy tronners wild fortress
03:39 <Plus> nothing worth listening to that is
03:40 <Plus> =P
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
03:40 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 62.4°F (8:43 PM CST on February 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa. 
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> I'm considering compiling 0.3.0 again and getting some screenshots with that
03:45 <Plus> i heard 3.0  was only worth downloading if i am patient enough to get used to a new camera, is that true that there isnt the same traditional camera as the
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but it's being completely overblown
03:45 <Plus> ok, because i heard they finished it early, but there are still a ton of bugs with it
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> if we had stepped into this camera over the course of several releases, nobody would have noticed or complained
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  0.3.0 is a development release, if you use it you are automatically considered a tester
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't want to help test, stay with 0.2.8
03:46 <Plus> maybe just wait til most of the bugs are cleaned up, then download it. because the minimap seems like a nice tool
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> if you want to wait for the next stable release before upgrading, that's up to you, but 0.3.1 will have lots of new features and lots of new bugs
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> there's more on the wiki about this, hang on
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh, there isn't more on the wiki apparently
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> basically, it's like this.  0.3.x releases are development snapshots, essentially.  We do less QA on them then we do on 0.2.8.x releases, and that's intentional.
03:48 <Plus> does the minimap show zones, because that would be nice for fortress servers with obsticles
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> there isn't any "wait until most of the bugs are fixed on 0.3.x" because after a point, it won't be 0.3.x anymore, it'll be beta releases as we start the QA process for another stable release
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> the minimap shows zones
03:49 <Plus> because you can never get rid of every single bug ^^
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> so basically, if you want the new features that are in the 0.3 series, you have to be willing to either wait until 0.3 becomes the next stable release (either 0.4 or 1.0 is next), or you have to be willing to test for us, report bugs, etc.
03:50 <Plus> i mean, bugs are the least of my problems, mainly my problem is lag cause all the fortress and sumo servers are based in europe
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> only time lag's a real problem is when your ping is either fluctuating wildly, or nearing or over half a second
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> :)
03:51 <Plus> i'll probably download it in a month or two, but how many camera settings are there in 3.0, and can you adjust the FOV
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> 0.3.0 will be the same in a month or two, but with luck we might have 0.3.1 out by then, no promises though
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> you can adjust FOV in 0.2.8, but I forget the setting for it
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> that setting is still there, afaik
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> it's been around for as long as I can remember.
03:52 <Plus> ok :)
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> there's even a menu option for it :)
03:53 <DrJoeTron> sweet!
03:53 <DrJoeTron> new ts server
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> for you?
03:53 <DrJoeTron> yup
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> what happened to your old one?
03:53 <DrJoeTron> we don't want to pay for it anymore
03:53 <DrJoeTron> so gomes built one
03:53 <Plus> hello Joe
03:53 <DrJoeTron> wadup, thug
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> that was costing you money?!?!?
03:53 <Plus> ;p
03:53 <DrJoeTron> wasn't costing ME money
03:53  * Lucifer_arma can't believe y'all were paying for armabreathatron
03:53 <DrJoeTron> gomes was paying for it
03:54 <DrJoeTron> we used it for more than armabreathatron
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> I might have used it more if I'd known you wanted to get your money's worth, now I never will!
03:54 <Plus> ^^ my space bar fell off like a month ago so i cant type very well :p
03:54 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:54 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 40.3°F (8:56 PM CST on February 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 28.79 in 974.8 hPa. 
03:54 <DrJoeTron> HEY! :o
03:54 <Plus> ghab, you from iowa?
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> Plus: there's always something, isn't there?  :/
03:54 <Plus> ;p
03:55 <DrJoeTron> we're testing it out now
03:55 <ghableska> Plus: yes
03:55 <Plus> cool, never been there :p
03:55 <ghableska> :P
03:55 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska is one of the kids in the band in the Music Man
03:55 <Plus> lol
03:55 <ghableska> ironic
03:55 <Plus> really?
03:55  * Lucifer_arma has driven through Ioway before
03:55 <ghableska> considering I just got back from a concert where we played a piece from that movie :)
03:55  * Plus tset
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing I remember is a town called Tall Trees or something, and there were 4 tall trees
03:56  * Plus cant spell :(
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> which song did you play from it?
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> 76 trombones?  :)
03:56 <ghableska> "Till There was you"
03:56 <Plus> lol, very creative
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> er, which song is that?
03:56 <ghableska> no clue
03:56  * Lucifer_arma only remembers the fun songs
03:56 <ghableska> some soppy love song
03:56  * ghableska remembers Gary Indiana
03:56  * Plus doesnt like love songs
03:56 <Plus> they're too southern
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> that's a fun song, though
03:57 <ghableska> yep
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> sung by Ron Howard :)
03:57  * ghableska needs to go do all his homework now
03:57 <ghableska> bbl
03:57 <Plus> kay, bye ghab
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> (that's right, boys and girls, the little redhead boy in the Music Man is the famous director Ron Howard)
03:57 <Plus> never heard of him :\
03:57 <Plus> no one cares about the directors :p
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> you've probably seen a movie he made :)
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> that's your American-centric point of view.  In the rest of the world, the director gets more recognition than the puppets---er, I mean, actors
03:58 <Plus> no one cares about the credits, but its a law...
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> credits aren't a law
03:58 <Plus> then why do they waste their time making them
03:59 <DrJoeTron> hahaha!
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> Director's Guild makes them.  Which means, you can't get a director if you don't put the credits in the movie
03:59 <DrJoeTron> the server that ran the lobster tub is now our ts serveR :P
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> furthermore, George Lucas got in deep trouble over Star Wars because he put the credits at the *end* and none at the beginning
03:59 <Plus> why dont they say, theres the director, now i know you dont care about anyone else who played in it
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04:00 <Plus> joe, to be honest, i've never seen anyone in any of your servers :p
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> because then they won't get any actors or directors.  There's a union for actors too
04:01 <Plus> i'm just sad there arnt any fortresses close to me, the closest is cafe, which gives me 150-200 ping
04:01 <Plus> cafe is in england, right
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> Germany, iirc
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> thing is, that ping is perfectly playable as long as its stable
04:01 <Plus> hmmm, then why dont i lag in it as much as durka's servers
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I'd rather have 150 than 80
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> you get more rubber :)
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> Durka's servers are in the US somewhere
04:02 <Plus> no, he said germany
04:02 <Plus> he might be lying though :p
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> He may not actually know.  :)  Luke hosts it, afaik.
04:02 <luke-jr_work> I host one of his
04:03 <Plus> who hosts ddl
04:03 <luke-jr_work> wtf is DDL?
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> Manta hosts a couple of the Wild West servers, or even all of them, in Arizona
04:03 <Plus> durka durka land
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> DurkaDurkaLand
04:03 <luke-jr_work> no clue
04:03 <Plus> well, i get 300 ping there, but it doesnt matter, cause i dont play rubber anyways
04:04 <Plus> closest to hard rubber i play with norms place, and thats when i was learning how to use double binds
04:04 <Plus> was, not with
04:04 <Your_mom_arma> last man standing
04:04 <Your_mom_arma> not rubber
04:04 <Plus> w/e
04:05 <Plus> whats the difference? last man standing and team play are the only viable play styles, right
04:05 <Plus> and high rubber fortress was tested, and failed
04:05 <Plus> nobody liked it
04:06 <Plus> anyone up for sumo?
04:13 <Plus> by the way, joe i voted you 'leas' (as GHUG put it) shrunkland mod <3
04:14 <Plus> or what ever he meant by it, you are by far everyones 'leas' fav mod :p
04:17 <DrJoeTron> Plus 
04:17 <DrJoeTron> you sir
04:17 <DrJoeTron> are going places
04:17 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:17 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma can you do me a favor?
04:17 <DrJoeTron> we're testing out the new ts server
04:17 <Your_mom_arma> he's making friends left and right
04:17 <DrJoeTron> and trying out the load
04:18 <Your_mom_arma> same connect info?
04:18 <DrJoeTron> new ip
04:18 <DrJoeTron> password is still option
04:18 <DrJoeTron> but you'd have to reregister
04:18 <Your_mom_arma> awww
04:18 <DrJoeTron> :( sorry
04:19 <DrJoeTron> well theres 2 admins on right now :o
04:19 <DrJoeTron> soo
04:23 <Plus> w/e have fun testing a server, playing sumo with legit, goody, and sagelord
04:26 <DrJoeTron> thanks for coming mom
04:27 <DrJoeTron> i'll let you know when he registers you
04:27 <DrJoeTron> or i'll just figure out how to do it, since i've done it before
04:30 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma: yea, trunk
04:31 <ghableska> Directors are important!
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04:35 <luke-jr> hey
04:35 <luke-jr> anyone want VPS hosting?
04:36 <luke-jr> or know enough to answer questions as if you were a customer? :p
04:36 <ghableska> what's VPS hosting?
04:36 <ghableska> :P
04:37 <luke-jr> ghableska: Virtual Private Server
04:37 <luke-jr> basically, a remote PC you can run
04:37 <luke-jr> you get full access to it
04:37 <ghableska> #wikipedia Virtual Private Server
04:37 <luke-jr> I'm thinkin about hosting them :p
04:38 <ghableska> what's the advantage?
04:38 <luke-jr> eh? advantage to what?
04:38 <ghableska> err, what are the alternatives?
04:39 <luke-jr> well
04:39 <luke-jr> there's game hosting which I currently do
04:39 <luke-jr> you only get the game hosted :p
04:39 <luke-jr> webhosting is the same
04:39 <luke-jr> there's VEs, which is comparable
04:39 <ghableska> o_O
04:39 <luke-jr> you can access to run any programs you want, and add users and such
04:40 <luke-jr> then, there's VPS, which is more-or-less a complete computer system
04:40 <luke-jr> above that is a full dedicated server
04:40 <ghableska> well, I'm not buying anything 
04:40 <ghableska> :)
04:40 <luke-jr> advantage of VPS over VE: you can run any OS
04:41 <luke-jr> advantage of VPS over dedicated server: price
04:41 <luke-jr> advantage of VPS over hosting a server at home: connectivity and reliability
04:41 <ghableska> what are the disadvantages?
04:42 <luke-jr> shared resources
04:42 <luke-jr> eg, there might be 10 VPS sharing a single CPU
04:42 <ghableska> ah
04:43 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.17 seconds: Virtual private server - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server>; Web hosting service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_hosting_service>; Virtual private network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPN>; VPS - Wikipedia, the free (2 more messages)
04:43 <luke-jr> and that 7200 RPM is overall for the 10 VPS
04:43 <ghableska> "search took .17 seconds" o_O
04:43 <ghableska> #ping
04:43 -!- Fonkay [i=Fonkay@blk-224-239-83.eastlink.ca] has joined #armagetron
04:43 <armabot> pong
04:43 <ghableska> hullo
04:43 <Fonkay> hi
04:45 <Stempo> hey
04:45 <Fonkay> new names everytime i come
04:46 <Stempo> me? I'm Genki
04:46 <ghableska> #wikipedia Genki
04:46 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.27 seconds: Genki Sudo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genki_Sudo>; Genki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genki>; Genki Dama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genki_Dama>; Genki (company) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
04:47 <ghableska> #more
04:47 <armabot> ghableska: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genki_(company)>; Genki Shock! - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genki_Shock!>; Paul Genki Kahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Genki_Kahn>; Shutokou Battle series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutokou_Battle_series>; List of Monster Rancher (1 more message)
04:47 <ghableska> o.0
04:47 <Fonkay> genki tells me nothing
04:47 <Stempo> oh... yeah well I guess I am new to you xD
04:48 <Stempo> hey I'm Jenny, annoying person at your service
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> Hi annoying person, I'm Lucifer_arma
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm tired of being treated like another stupid parent who doesn't pay attention to his kids
04:50 <ghableska> aww
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> you guys feel like googling for dirt?
04:51 <xfroggy> maybe
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> if there's any to be had, anyway?
04:52 <ghableska> dirt on whom?
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> I think the school is hiding something, or there's something a little off-kilter going on, and I think I want to know more about the staff, teachers, etc.
04:52 <ghableska> what makes you think that?
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> is there any relation between the principal and my daughter's teacher?  If so, what?  That sort of thing
04:52 <ghableska> :/
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> my wife called a bunch of teachers today, and talked to the principal, and the teachers all supported the idea that the problem is fundamentally in my daughter's classroom
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> but the principal defended the teacher and basically treated us like another set of stupid parents who don't pay attention to their kids
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> the other teachers, PE, art, music, etc, have all been dealing with my daughter since kindergarten, and none of them have seen any bullying behavior when they had the class
04:54 <ghableska> what grade is she in?
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter supports that, she says they don't do it at those times because they'll get in trouble
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> second grade
04:54 <ghableska> ah
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.roundrockisd.org/home/index.asp?page=377  <--- RRISD page for the school
04:54 <ghableska> #night
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> I have suddenly forgotten her teacher's name
04:54 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:54 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: yet another reason to teach your kids yourself?
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the principal's reaction might be a standard reaction, and there is standardized testing going on right now so all the staff is really busy
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> my paranoia nerve might just be going off for reasons that have non-paranoid explanations
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04:56 <luke-jr> wow
04:56 <luke-jr> first Fonkay 
04:56 <luke-jr> now Self_Destructo 
04:56 <Self_Destructo> 'ello folks :)
04:56 <Self_Destructo> huh?
04:56 <Self_Destructo> LUKE
04:56 <luke-jr> two irregulars at the same time!
04:56 <Self_Destructo> :O
04:56 <Self_Destructo> :)
04:56 <Your_mom_arma> am i a regular?
04:57 <luke-jr> you're semi-regular
04:57 <luke-jr> Fonkay and Self_Destructo are like once a month at best
04:57 <Self_Destructo> luke-jr: I thin I am just about to make the Word Count program final
04:57 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: ok; haven't heard from you in a while :o
04:57 <Self_Destructo> yeah
04:57 <Self_Destructo> i paid alot of money for just sitting on it
04:58 <luke-jr> lol
04:58 <luke-jr> well, does it do everything right?
04:58 <Self_Destructo> seems to so far
04:58 <luke-jr> o wait; sitting on it = you don't use it? :o
04:58 <Self_Destructo> as long as I don't run mutiple instances of it at the same time :p
04:58 <Plus> i'm magical
04:58 <luke-jr> O.o?
04:58 <luke-jr> wtf is Plus 
04:58 <Plus> lol\
04:59 <Your_mom_arma> luci schedule a face to face with said teacher or principal? I doubt they would insult your parenting abilities then, and they shouldnt have done so in the first place
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> principal was 29 in 2000
04:59 <Self_Destructo> sitting on it basically means I haven't used it much
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: we tried, we got a phone call instead
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> looks like I have a home phone number for her, too
04:59 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: aww
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, that gives a home in Plano.  She's new this year, maybe she used to live in Plano.  Home phone number can't be right then.
05:00 <Self_Destructo> luke-jr: aww? like little cry baby aww?
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> so, 36 right now
05:00 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: ... no
05:00 <Self_Destructo> lol, just checking
05:01 <luke-jr> like it's disappointing to write code that gets neglected ;p
05:01 <Self_Destructo> yep, i completely understand
05:01 <luke-jr> btw, did I mention how much I dislike employment?
05:01 <Self_Destructo> er, never
05:01 <luke-jr> o
05:02 <luke-jr> well, I don't care for it :p
05:02 <luke-jr> so if you need any kind of hosting services let me know :p
05:02 <Self_Destructo> heh, i don't know alot of people who do. :p back at you
05:03 <Self_Destructo> oh, and I host mine and others stuff, for money of course. :p
05:03 <luke-jr> :p
05:03 <luke-jr> you host it how?
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> so she used to be a principal at a different school
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder why she left there?
05:03 <luke-jr> maybe she was forced to
05:03 <Self_Destructo> i host it via resellers account
05:04 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: so you need services you can resell :p
05:04 <Self_Destructo> har har
05:04 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma ping
05:04 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: right now, I host Armagetron servers
05:05 <Self_Destructo> heard from spidey this evening?
05:05 <luke-jr> looking into VPS hosting
05:05 <Your_mom_arma> pong
05:05 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: IM him?
05:05 <luke-jr> oh wow
05:05 <Self_Destructo> yeah, i did
05:05 <luke-jr> spidey's not on IM now
05:05 <DrJoeTron> can you get in really quick if you can
05:05 <Fonkay> back and stuff
05:05 <DrJoeTron> Fonkay
05:05 <DrJoeTron> get on our new ts channel
05:05 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: you did? haven't seen you on IM lately
05:05 <DrJoeTron> you need to regregister :/
05:05 <Self_Destructo> ah, i meant pm
05:05 <Fonkay> meh, i'm going to bed in like 2 seconds
05:05 <DrJoeTron> reregister
05:05 <DrJoeTron> :(
05:05 <Self_Destructo> IM, as in jabber?
05:05 <luke-jr> yes
05:06 <DrJoeTron> but....but the poncho :(
05:06 <Self_Destructo> it's benn probably a year
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> George W. Bush
05:06 <Self_Destructo> ;)
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's her teacher's name
05:06 <Fonkay> It's late and i have evil CAD class first thing tomorrow
05:06 <Self_Destructo> LOVELY
05:07 <Self_Destructo> CAD completly ruined my graphics skill in Photoshop, gimp, and fireworks
05:07 <Self_Destructo> no i have none :/
05:07 <luke-jr> lol
05:07 <luke-jr> KolourPaint!
05:07 <luke-jr> :)
05:07 <luke-jr> brb
05:07 <Self_Destructo> i can barely get around in fireworks
05:07 <DrJoeTron> aaww ok :(
05:07 <Fonkay> dont blame your problems on a computer program
05:08 <Self_Destructo> oh I don't, I'm backwards as it is anyways
05:08 <Plus> Durka stole my cookie =[
05:08 <Fonkay> not CAD's fault there isn't room in your brain for 2 seperate things
05:08 <Self_Destructo> exactly
05:08 <Plus> hello fonkay
05:08 <Fonkay> there we go, moot
05:09 <Plus> legit is being all queer again!!!!
05:09 <DrJoeTron> :( anyone want to try and register? 
05:09 <Your_mom_arma> is plus canada?
05:09 <Plus> no
05:09 <Your_mom_arma> just read that post
05:09 <Fonkay> anywho. i'll have to talk to tomorrow joe.
05:09 <DrJoeTron> canada left armagetron
05:09 <DrJoeTron> ko laday
05:09 <Fonkay> re-read joe
05:09 <Plus> but, no, i'm not ;]
05:09 <DrJoeTron> i'm going to update the server stuff on the server and stuff
05:10 <Fonkay> and if canada and plus are the same people, i understand why he would have to change his name
05:10 <Plus> er, ;] is kinda deformed, i'll stick with =] face
05:10 <Your_mom_arma> exactly
05:10 <Fonkay> even though I've not met him
05:10 <Plus> plus canada, that makes a sentence fragment, rendering it false, anyways, no i'm not Canada
05:11 <Fonkay> that's exactly what canada would say
05:11 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:11 <Plus> lol
05:11 <Plus> w/e back to sumo =]
05:11 <Fonkay> how long hasa plus been coming here?
05:12 <Fonkay> since today?
05:12 <Your_mom_arma> first i've seen him
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  I think Canada should pick a new name
05:13 <Fonkay> well then it most likely is canada, if he came on irc. he seems a bit too comfortable for a new kid
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> and why hasn't my daughter's teacher done at least one thing of note that google would know?
05:13 <DrJoeTron> plus is new here
05:13 <xfroggy> Plus is someone else >:D
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> I found lots of stuff on the principal, but nothing on the teacher
05:13 <Fonkay> wait, what?
05:13 <Plus> dunno why everyone hates Canada, but i just learned about irc chat
05:13 <Fonkay> haha
05:14 <DrJoeTron> fonkay for someone who has to leave, youy're sure here a while :o
05:14 <Fonkay> :$
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, she is
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> my cad class was fun
05:14 <Fonkay> yea, i tend to procrastinate
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> Fonkay: the school's trying to screw with us, and my paranoia nerves are going off
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm trying to find out as much about the staff there as possible.
05:14 <DrJoeTron> ya breakin mah heart
05:14 <DrJoeTron> brb
05:14 <Fonkay> screw with you about what exactly?
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter.  :(  It's kind of a long story, here's the gist:
05:15 <Fonkay> oh hush joe, had you replied to me like 20 mins ago on gtalk you would have been able to talk to me longer
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter gets bullied in class.  We work with our daughter, have conferences with the teacher and the counselor, and the teacher tries to bully us and cover up the problem
05:15 <Fonkay> I've been there
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> teacher is now initiating the internal procedure needed for the school to call CPS and have us investigated for "negligent abuse"
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> my wife talked to the principal today and got the "you're just a stupid parent, let us take care of your kid for you" attitude
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> drives me nuts
05:17 <Fonkay> when i was in elementary school my sister and I used to get bullied and beat up a lot, when my mom went to the school about it they basically told my mom to keep us from starting fights, and sent us on our way.
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> I've at least found out the principal is 36 and has a distinguished career, and is an A&M alumni
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> got her masters in educational psychology, even
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, you're 20-21 right now, right?
05:19 <Plus> lucifer, is it a public school =o
05:19 <Fonkay> the only thing can helped around here was a big case going public. A 12 yr old had to shoot himself in there head for our schoolboard to take acting against bullying.
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> rather, was this before or after the Columbine massacre that instigated a bunch of anti-bullying laws being passed everywhere?
05:19 <Fonkay> before. I'm 22
05:20 <Fonkay> also, this is canada. So everythings a bit different
05:20 <Plus> hmm?
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, at least you learned first hand what it's like to deal with Americans :)
05:21 <Fonkay> is it anything like dealing with you? 
05:21 <Fonkay> hehe
05:21 <Self_Destructo> ^^^^
05:21 <Self_Destructo> :)
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> man, my daughter's teacher is so worthless, even google does'nt know about her
05:22 <Fonkay> but yea, i used to get beat up pretty much every day at school
05:22 <Fonkay> mostly because i was white.
05:22 <Fonkay> but anyhow, that may be a story for another day. I must go to bed now. Good luck with the school thing luci.
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05:23 <Your_mom_arma> cya fonk
05:23 <Fonkay> If nothing else works. Go public
05:23 <Fonkay> later moms
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05:23 <Your_mom_arma> wb
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05:23 <Lucifer_arma> bye Fonkay (hi there!) 
05:23 <DrJoeTron> thanks : /
05:24 <DrJoeTron> time to update everything and tell our registered members to move over to this one
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> apparently there's only one webpage in the whole world that knows about her teacher
05:25 <DrJoeTron> the only difference with this server is that theres no client limit, and we aren't paying 5 bucks a month
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> man, there even used to be a page with my wedding record on it
05:25 <Self_Destructo> lol
05:26 <Self_Destructo> it's been a record setting amount has it?
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> haha
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/valverde/vitals/births/1973/valveb73.txt  <--- my brother's birth record is on this page.  Search it for "Fancella"
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.stmattsaustin.org/ww/p030810.htm  <-- Search this one for Fancella and you find a reference to my 3 year old
05:28 <Self_Destructo> FANCELLA, MICHAEL ANTHONY               26-May-1973     m 
05:29 <Self_Destructo> lol, I'm finding this funny
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> why is my brother's birth record on there, but mine isn't?
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> I found everyone but me.  :/
05:30 <Self_Destructo> on a church's website, and you have the nickname lucifer? wow
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> that's my father-in-law's church
05:30 <Self_Destructo> i can't find me either, don't worry
05:30 <Self_Destructo> ah
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, if I searched for "Dave Fancella", I'll get thousands of legitimate hits to me
05:31 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: Lucifer_arma is anti-God
05:32 <Self_Destructo> there are alot of hits for Generaux
05:32 <Self_Destructo> I have alot of relatives in France
05:33 <Self_Destructo> Even if I go to a site where you can find people, you can't find me :)
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05:37 <Self_Destructo> ON NO
05:37 <Self_Destructo> I FOUND ME!
05:37 <Self_Destructo> I musta done something bad, I'm now in the public records. :p
05:37 <Self_Destructo> http://www.public-records-now.com/Summary.asp?from=hyd0000068422&piid=46&vw=people&input=name&fn=James&mn=&ln=Generaux&city=Berryville&state=AR
05:39 <DrJoeTron> ha i don't have one
05:39 <DrJoeTron> theres one of me in georgia
05:41 <Self_Destructo> I think it depends on how old you are....
05:41 <Self_Destructo> i couldn't even begin to find myself in the records anywhere 2 years ago
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05:49 <Lucifer_arma> http://mailgate.supereva.com/rec/rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature/msg02834.html  <-- haha, I completely forgot about that
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, I didn't hit the first non-me link until page 16
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06:01 <spidey> slept for 17 hours...
06:01 <spidey> #last --with spidey --nolimit
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight "Dave Fancella" "spidey"
06:01 <armabot> spidey: [05:08:20] <luke-jr> spidey's not on IM now, [05:07:57] <Self_Destructo> heard from spidey this evening?, [23:40:13] <DrJoeTron> i haven't used xfire in over a year, and spidey just reminded me its around and supposedly works finaly, [07:10:00] <Lucifer_arma> spidey's addicted to freeciv :), [07:09:02] <Vanhayes> well, thats how many days spidey has played halo, altogether, [06:36:47] (10 more messages)
06:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: spidey: 169000, Dave Fancella: 1080
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> awww
06:02 <spidey> :)
06:02 <spidey> Self_Destructo, heya!
06:02 <Plus> #google fight "legit" "hyphy"
06:02 <armabot> Plus: legit: 731000, hyphy: 81500
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight canada plus
06:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: plus: 67400000, canada: 41000000
06:03 <Plus> holy crap those are big  numbers
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> surprised canada got so many
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight "canada sucks" "america rules"
06:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: america rules: 9160000, canada sucks: 209000
06:04 <Plus> #google fight "public
06:04 <armabot> Plus: Error: No closing quotation
06:04 <Plus> #google fight "public" "private"
06:04 <armabot> Plus: public: 61600000, private: 52500000
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight "I have to pee" "Go fuck yourself"
06:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I have to pee: 342000, Go fuck yourself: 204000
06:04 <Plus> get ready for huge numbers
06:05 <Plus> #google fight "the" "and
06:05 <armabot> Plus: Error: No closing quotation
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> ouch
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> those numbers hurt
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> too big for me
06:05 <Plus> #google fight "the" "and"
06:05 <spidey> haha
06:05 <armabot> Plus: the: 339000000, and: 327000000
06:05 <Plus> holy
06:05 <Plus> thats like 100 trillion
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight "jesus" "homosexual"
06:05 <spidey> ..
06:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: jesus: 10900000, homosexual: 1180000
06:05 <Plus> or, 1 trillion
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight "jesus" "gay"
06:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: gay: 292000000, jesus: 10900000
06:06 <Plus> people like jesus more than homosexuals
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> ah, there we go.  People are more concerned about being gay than they are about jesus.
06:06 <Plus> gay people pwnt jesus
06:06 <spidey> #google fight "123" "abc"
06:06 <armabot> spidey: 123: 28400000, abc: 11800000
06:06 <DrJoeTron> #google fight "jesus" "donkey shows"
06:06 <armabot> DrJoeTron: jesus: 10900000, donkey shows: 131000
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:06 <Plus> lol
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to change my name, I've decided
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> I will henceforth be known as:
06:07 <Plus> #google fight "pole dancers" "donkey wranglers"
06:07 <armabot> Plus: pole dancers: 130000, donkey wranglers: 9330
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> DrGrowupTron
06:07 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, civ? :D
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> I've really gotta do homework, so of course
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I can ony play a few hours, and I have to do homework while playing.  If I can't do the second, I hve to stop.
06:07 <spidey> that confused me
06:07 <DrJoeTron> alright
06:07 <Plus> #google fight "south park" "family guy"
06:07 <DrJoeTron> everything is updated :)
06:07 <armabot> Plus: south park: 134000000, family guy: 64200000
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> I have to stop after a few hours, so I can wake up in the morning and bitch at the principal
06:08 <spidey> lol
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> did you finish that savegame, then?
06:08 <Plus> #google fight "lucifer is really really mad at the principal" "life"
06:08 <spidey> no, still playing it o.O
06:08 <DrJoeTron> oh come on
06:08 <armabot> Plus: life: 66700000, lucifer is really really mad at the principal: 6840
06:09 <DrJoeTron> spidey how come there is a 100 member cap only for clans on xfire :/
06:09 <spidey> how should i know?
06:09 <spidey> email and ask
06:09 <Plus> i know what x fire is, they sponser world of warcraft ;p
06:10 <Plus> dont have a clue what joe is talking about though
06:10 <DrJoeTron> not much has changed since i last used it :/
06:10 <spidey> ..
06:10 <spidey> xfire = MTV
06:10 <DrJoeTron> pretty much
06:10 <Plus> pie = good?
06:10 <DrJoeTron> thats so sad that it was bought by viacom
06:11 <Plus> w/e its nice it being 0 o'clock =\
06:11 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, server running? :D
06:12 <Plus> #insult Hyphy
06:12 <armabot> Hyphy - You are nothing but an ill-borne enema-bucketful of porous snake. 
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I gotta pee, hang on
06:12 <spidey> k
06:12 <Plus> #ultra insult
06:12 <Plus> #insult Hyphy
06:12 <armabot> Hyphy - You are nothing but a tottering pile of cockered bait. 
06:13 <spidey> ...
06:13 <Plus> thats not even an insult
06:13 <spidey> ok
06:13 <spidey> that's kinda annoying!
06:13 <Plus> sorry
06:13 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,    <=== see if you wanna play that :D
06:13 <Plus> i'm bored at 0 o'clock
06:14 <spidey> ...
06:14 -!- Plus is now known as plus
06:15 <plus> #weather mexico
06:15 <armabot> plus: The current temperature in Mexico City, Mexico is 56.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Clear. Humidity: 53%. Wind: N at 4 mph (6 km/h).
06:15 <xfroggy> #weather lviv
06:16 <armabot> xfroggy: The current temperature in Lviv, Ukraine is 32.0°F. Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 80%. Wind: CLM at 0 mph (0 km/h).
06:16 <plus> #weather paris
06:16 <armabot> plus: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM CET; Overcast. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Overcast. Low:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.;
06:16 <xfroggy> damn
06:16 <xfroggy> #weather shepetivka
06:16 <armabot> xfroggy: The current temperature in Shepetivka, Ukraine is 33.8°F (5:00 AM EET on February 21, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 
06:16 <plus> #weather heaven
06:17 <xfroggy> lol ^
06:17 <armabot> plus: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "heaven".
06:17 <xfroggy> LOl
06:17 <xfroggy> #weather greenland
06:17 <armabot> xfroggy: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "greenland".
06:17 <xfroggy> Oo
06:17 <plus> #weather north pole
06:17 <xfroggy> #weather antartica
06:17 <armabot> plus: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "north pole".
06:17 <plus> #weather santa's workshop
06:17 <armabot> xfroggy: Partly Cloudy. High:-34 ° F. / -37 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:-45 ° F. / -43 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:-38 ° F. / -39 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:-49 ° F. / -45 ° C.; Overcast. High:-47 ° F. / -44 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:-54 ° F. / -48 ° C.;
06:17 <armabot> plus: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "santa's workshop".
06:17 <xfroggy> damn thats cold
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> ok, server's up
06:18 <xfroggy> which 1?
06:18 <plus> its contraversial, they dont allow them to show the weather in santa's area
06:18 <plus> =]
06:18 <xfroggy> you not even suppose to know about that place in the first place >:D
06:19 <plus> #weather great wall of china
06:19 <armabot> plus: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "great wall of china".
06:19 <xfroggy> lol ^
06:19 <plus> #weather my computer
06:19 <armabot> plus: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "my computer".
06:19 <xfroggy> #help
06:19 <armabot> xfroggy: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
06:20 <xfroggy> #list
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06:20 <armabot> xfroggy: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
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06:20 <plus> #quit life
06:20 <DrJoeTron> #weather 60016
06:20 <spidey> lame
06:20 <armabot> plus: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:20 <plus> #weather DrjoeTron's house
06:20 <xfroggy> Oo
06:20 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Chicago Palwaukee, Illinois is 26.6°F (9:52 PM CST on February 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa. 
06:21 <armabot> plus: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "DrjoeTron's house".
06:21 <plus> i dont have the owner capability to quit at life?
06:21 <plus> #win the internet
06:22 <xfroggy> hahahaha
06:22 <plus> #bored
06:22 <xfroggy> #ignore plus
06:22 <plus> #ignore self
06:22 <xfroggy> x)
06:23 <plus> #weather the future
06:23 <armabot> plus: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "the future".
06:23 <xfroggy> #heal me
06:23 <plus> #google search drjoetron
06:23 <armabot> plus: Search took 0.21 seconds: Moviepacks list - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Moviepacks_list>; Servers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Servers>; IMDb user comments for Rushmore (1998): <http://imdb.com/title/tt0128445/usercomments?start=20>; IMDb user comments for The Maltese Falcon (1941): (2 more messages)
06:24 <plus> #google search ego
06:24 <armabot> plus: Search took 0.18 seconds: Egosurfing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egosurfing>; In Search Of The Relevancy Figure: <http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2165151>; Promotional Imprinted Dog Tags w/ Your Corporate Logo: <http://www.promopeddler.com/cat/Custom+Printed+Badges/Engraved+Dog+Tags/>; Search : eGO Vehicles: (2 more messages)
06:24 <plus> lol
06:24 <xfroggy> O_o
06:24 <plus> #google search google.
06:24 <armabot> plus: Search took 0.19 seconds: Google: <http://www.google.com/>; Google Help : Basics of Search: <http://www.google.com/help/basics.html>; Google: <http://www.google.ca/>; Google Maps: <http://local.google.com/>; Google Directory - Reference > Libraries > Library and Information ...: (2 more messages)
06:25 <plus> #google images armagetron
06:25 <armabot> plus: Search took 0.19 seconds: Image : Armagetron Advanced.png - Wikimedia Commons: <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Armagetron_Advanced.png>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Avatar pics: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=47595>; Armagetron Forums :: BBCode Guide: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/faq.php?mode=bbcode>; Customizing the game - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: (3 more messages)
06:25 <xfroggy> #google search "who" "is" "plus"
06:25 <armabot> xfroggy: Search took 0.17 seconds: Search Plus International: <http://www.searchplusintl.com/>; Support for people of working age: <http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/Customers/Searchforajob/ijb.aspx>; The Web Word Search Plus - Word Searches and Mazes for your ...: <http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/2555/puzzle.html>; Domain Name Search and Register. Plus , Advice on Domain Names.: (2 more messages)
06:25 <plus> holy
06:25 <xfroggy> hmm
06:25 <DrJoeTron> don't you guys have an internet browser for this, that does a much better job AT this?
06:26 <xfroggy> what's that?
06:26 <plus> no
06:26 <DrJoeTron> oh ok
06:26 <plus> well, i dunno, i probably do
06:26 <xfroggy> #google search "internet" "browser"
06:26 <armabot> xfroggy: Search took 0.11 seconds: search . internet .com PowerSearch: <http://search.internet.com/>; DSL, Broadband, T1 ISP: High-speed and dial-up internet service ...: <http://reviews.cnet.com/Internet_access/2001-6536_7-0.html>; Microsoft Download Center: <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/>; Maxthon custom Internet browser , with ultimate web search tool ...: (2 more messages)
06:26 <plus> well, duh i do, how would i get on irc chat if i didnt
06:26 <xfroggy> LOL
06:27 <xfroggy> there are other ways -.-
06:27 <plus> how
06:27 <plus> time mechine?
06:27 <xfroggy> irc client -.-
06:27 <plus> machine*
06:27 <plus> how would you download the client without going online with a browser
06:28 <xfroggy> ask my friend send it thru MSN
06:28 <xfroggy> which comes standard on windows >:D
06:28 <plus> mm, but it would be pointless, because you couldnt go online
06:28 <xfroggy> Oo how come
06:28 <plus> well, you cant open up IE, fire fox, or opera, because those are browsers, how do you get online
06:29 <xfroggy> Why would I need to get online ?
06:29 <plus> well, you cant play armagetron without going online, and even if you dont play it, you couldnt go on forums
06:29 <plus> so why would you be on this irc chat
06:30 <xfroggy> Oo, I lost you somewhere
06:30 <plus> theres a difference between its possible, and it has a point
06:30 <xfroggy> :\
06:31 <plus> #google earth area 51
06:31 <armabot> plus: Search took 0.17 seconds: Area 51: <http://www.ufomind.com/area51/>; Google Earth Area 51 Desert Anomaly Patterns: <http://www.informantnews.com/pics3/googlearea51.html>; Kevin.Jarnot.Com » They Come in Peace…and for the BBQ: <http://www.jarnot.com/wp/archives/2006/04/they-come-in-pe.php>; Area 51 -- Sightseeing with Google Satellite Maps: <http://perljam.net/google-satellite- (2 more messages)
06:31 <xfroggy> lol
06:32 <plus> #google earth Heaven
06:32 <armabot> plus: Search took 0.14 seconds: Empire Earth 2 Heaven: <http://ee.heavengames.com/>; Welcome to Heaven on Earth Hawaii - Salon and Day Spa: <http://www.heavenonearthhawaii.com/>; On Earth as it is In Heaven : Reflections on Jesus' Parables of the ...: <http://www.swedenborg.org/documents/Woofenden_Lee--On_Earth_as_it_is_In_Heaven.pdf>; Heaven & Earth - Jewelry, Crystals & Gems: (3 more messages)
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11:18 <epsy> hi
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12:50 <Lucifer_arma> I'm becoming a believer in very small maps with lots of ais
12:50 <spidey> heh
12:50 <spidey> indeed, this is the second good game
12:51 <Lucifer_arma> I just wish they'd quit allying together!
12:51 <spidey> now we just need to get mom so we can finish the other :)
12:51 <Lucifer_arma> :)
12:51 <spidey> from what i've seen on the other one, i'll have a super nation
12:51 <spidey> :)
12:51 <Lucifer_arma> never had an invasion fail until 2.1, I swearuh
12:51 <spidey> lol
12:52 <Lucifer_arma> I've tried several different invasions across this little sea there, and they've all failed
12:52 <spidey> do like i did
12:52 <spidey> to the estonians
12:52 <Lucifer_arma> starting to know how montgomery must have felt after Operation: Market Garden
12:52 <Lucifer_arma> just go over and start pounding the shit out of someone weaker than you?
12:52 <spidey> estonians aren't weaker
12:53 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sending most of my battleship strength to fight the ukrainians, and loading up a transport
12:53 <spidey> i gathered all my elite/hardened units
12:53 <spidey> loaded them on transports
12:53 <spidey> bombed 1 city till it was empty
12:53 <Lucifer_arma> stumbled across a large naval group headed my way and knocked them out.  Ukrainians weren't sitting around!
12:53 <spidey> unloaded a marine intto it, then moved my elite battleships/elite troops into it
12:53 <Lucifer_arma> ah, see, have to bomb it in one turn.  Between turns he restocks :(
12:53 <spidey> and it's held everything they've threw at it, including a ton of artillery
12:53 <Lucifer_arma> so I need more bombing-type units
12:54 <spidey> i'm sending you 9 elite battleships to help
12:54 <Lucifer_arma> I took a ukrainian city already, but it's attached to the pole
12:54 <spidey> but i have to replace atleast 6 of them first
12:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, like I said, I'm shifting my battleship strength over there.  I'm going to have to use subs in the middle for awhile
12:54 <Lucifer_arma> they do fine as long as I don't leave them sitting out between turns
12:55 <spidey> yea
12:55 <spidey> now i'ma go play swat 4 where i can shoot people :D
12:55 <Lucifer_arma> terrible ships of the line though.  :(
12:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh, ok
12:55 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
12:55 <spidey> cya
12:55 <spidey> btw, once i take the estonian cities
12:55 <spidey> i'll have a whole new battleship producing nation
12:55 <spidey> so i'll send everything i've already got to you after i do that
12:55 <spidey> 26 battleships :)
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14:15 <spidey> wrtlprnft, ping
14:24 <wrtlprnft> pong
14:25 <spidey> what's the chmod to give something exec privs?
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14:37 <spidey> oh yea
14:37 <spidey> wrtlprnft, can tron bind to specific ip's ?
14:38 <spidey> like if i install another NIC in my server, could i tell tron to listen on, or would it choose for itself which one to run on
14:38 <spidey> like soldat does >.<
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14:48 <wrtlprnft> SERVER_IP.
14:48 <spidey> thnx
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14:49 <spidey> now i have to figure out wtf i can't connect to the servers i run on the cable line via the net, but i can via lan :|
14:49 <spidey> wrtlprnft, ssh cable.fallin-angels.net
14:49 <spidey> that connect for you?
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15:11 <wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop $ ssh ssh cable.fallin-angels.net                                                                       ~
15:11 <wrtlprnft> ssh: ssh: Name or service not known
15:12 <spidey> hm
15:12 <spidey> wrtlprnft, try instead
15:13 <wrtlprnft> it connects.
15:13 <wrtlprnft> and i'll leave it to you to find the error in my last command
15:13 <spidey> ssh ssh?
15:14 <spidey> anyways, i figured out what the problem is, and i hate windows for it's lack of networking support!!
15:25 <spidey> #ping
15:25 <armabot> pong
16:30 <luke-jr_work> spidey: you know, *nix can associate multiple IPs on a single interface...
16:30 <luke-jr_work> if you install iproute2
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17:17 <spidey> luke-jr_work, ....
17:17 <luke-jr_work> spidey: ...
17:17 <spidey> if i did that i couldn't have lan access to my server
17:17 <spidey> and transfers would take forever
17:18 <luke-jr_work> why not?
17:18 <spidey> because i only have 3 nic's
17:19 <spidey> so i have to choose, let the server have dsl and cable access, or let the server run on cable and me have lan to it on this box
17:19 <spidey> i choose the second one :P
17:19 <spidey> onlly problem is
17:20 <spidey> windows likes to choose what nic to use for net access
17:20 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:20 <luke-jr_work> 3 NIC
17:20 <luke-jr_work> =
17:20 <luke-jr_work> 1 Cable
17:20 <luke-jr_work> 1 DSL
17:20 <luke-jr_work> 1 LAN
17:20 <spidey> exactly
17:20 <spidey> 'er
17:21 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/network.txt
17:21 <spidey> that'll explain better
17:21 <spidey> >.<
17:24 <epsy> spidey, zzz still loading :D
17:24 <spidey> timed out for me
17:26 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.net/network.txt
17:26 <spidey> >.<
17:26 <epsy> LOL
17:26 <epsy> such a small file
17:26 <spidey> ?
17:26 <epsy> >.<
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18:06 <|ZD|Zacariaz> anyone there?
18:07 <epsy> no
18:07 <epsy> hey :P
18:07 <|ZD|Zacariaz> heh... i was wondering if it would be possible to get the DDL server config
18:08 <epsy> err, wait until durka comes...or post on ddl.otlong.com
18:08 <epsy> *http://ddl.notlong.com
18:08 <|ZD|Zacariaz> ill just wait for durka
18:08 <|ZD|Zacariaz> ty
18:09 <epsy> expect him to be here at 8:30 GMT
18:11 <|ZD|Zacariaz> spm i suspect ;-)
18:12 <|ZD|Zacariaz> *pm
18:14 <epsy> yup, PM ;)
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19:27 <guru3> all hail zmanuel!
19:27 <guru3> banzai!
19:36 <spidey> :O
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19:45 <spidey> #g 40*9
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19:55 <|ZD|> yo, anyone home?
19:55 <luke-jr_work> no
19:55 <guru3> no
19:55 <luke-jr_work> mr. no name
19:56 <|ZD|> i see durka isnt here yet, but i was wondering if it would be possible to get the server config for the DDL server...
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19:58 <guru3> "no"
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19:59 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: you missed |ZD|!
20:01 <GodTodd> missed what?
20:01 <luke-jr_work> [13:00:35] <|ZD|> i see durka isnt here yet, but i was wondering if it would be possible to get the server config for the DDL server...
20:01 <GodTodd> ok...
20:03 <GodTodd> this is important to me because...
20:03 <luke-jr_work> we all know how much you love Durka!
20:03 <luke-jr_work> :D
20:03 <GodTodd> ...
20:03 <luke-jr_work> LOL
20:04 <GodTodd> stop putting words in my mouth
20:04 <luke-jr_work> stop telling me what to do
20:05 <GodTodd> just responding in kind to your own requests
20:06 <guru3> cheese
20:06 <luke-jr_work> me too
20:06 <luke-jr_work> wow, we must be related!
20:06 <luke-jr_work> guru3: viva cheese?
20:06 <GodTodd> don't *ever* make an accusation like that
20:07 <guru3> just felt we needed a shift
20:07 <luke-jr_work> *g*
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20:54 <GodTodd> 2.86 kg in g
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20:54 <GodTodd> #g 2.86 kg in g
20:55 <quarg> well hello all
20:56 <quarg> i thankyou for your help, my map is working and i am preaty proud of my first map
20:56 <armabot> GodTodd: 2.86 kilograms = 2,860 grams
20:57 <quarg> i am helping a friend setup a linux server but im not sure how 
20:57 <quarg> it doesnt seem to be the same prosses as mac
20:57 <quarg> thankyou armabot for that
20:58 <epsy> what distro
20:58 <epsy> ?
21:01 <quarg> distro?
21:02 <luke-jr_work> what OS?
21:02 <quarg> linux
21:02 <luke-jr_work> Linux isn't an OS
21:02 <luke-jr_work> it's a program
21:02 <luke-jr_work> RedHat is an OS
21:02 <luke-jr_work> Gentoo is a meta-OS
21:02 <quarg> ya i just got tht
21:02 <luke-jr_work> Mandriva is an OS
21:02 <quarg> sorry
21:03 <xfroggy> what's a meta-OS?
21:03 <quarg> looking
21:03 <epsy> yeah what do you mean by that luke ? :D
21:03 <luke-jr_work> xfroggy: tools to make an OS
21:04 <xfroggy> ok ty
21:04 <epsy> si see
21:04 <luke-jr_work> more or less
21:04 <epsy> *i see
21:07 <quarg> fedora
21:07 <quarg> is the os
21:08 <luke-jr_work> suck
21:08 <quarg> not mine
21:08 <luke-jr_work> I don't think we support Arma on Fedora
21:08 <quarg> a nuts
21:08 <luke-jr_work> unless our generic RPMs work there
21:09 <quarg> well we are looking for the terminal to start the server up
21:09 <quarg> but we are doing it remotely
21:10 <quarg> also does linux use the same format for the settings as pc and mac?
21:10 <luke-jr_work> looking for the terminal??
21:10 <quarg> an autoexec file
21:10 <luke-jr_work> um
21:10 <luke-jr_work> PC = Personal Computer
21:10  * epsy would recommend to compile it yourself
21:10 <luke-jr_work> most Macs are PCs
21:10 <luke-jr_work> most servers are not
21:10 <luke-jr_work> but Arma config is the same everywhere!
21:10 <luke-jr_work> right now
21:10 <quarg> well in the wiki it says to use the terminal to start sever
21:10 <luke-jr_work> ok
21:11 <luke-jr_work> yeah
21:11 <luke-jr_work> so
21:12 <quarg> so its the same, you create an autoexec in the config folder
21:12 <luke-jr_work> no
21:12 <luke-jr_work> autoexec is obsolete
21:12 <luke-jr_work> for all platforms
21:12 <epsy> su /etc/init.d/armagetrnad start
21:12 <luke-jr_work> you create server_info.cfg and settings_custom.cfg
21:12 <epsy> ?
21:12 <quarg> custom config then
21:12 <luke-jr_work> server_info contains stuff like SERVER_IP, URL, SERVER_NAME, and such
21:12 <luke-jr_work> settings_custom has things like WALLS_LENGTH
21:13 <quarg> ok thats what i thought
21:13 <quarg> but my friend told me different
21:13 <quarg> last time i listen to him
21:13 <quarg> and to start the server on fedora?
21:14 <epsy> su /etc/init.d/armagetrnad start
21:14 <epsy> maybe*
21:14 <quarg> hehe
21:14 <epsy> i dont know if there is sudo or not...
21:14 <quarg> and this gets inserted where exatly?
21:15 <epsy> in a term
21:16 <quarg> and the term i find were? if you please
21:16 <luke-jr_work> how are you accessing it??
21:17 <quarg> the server? or the terminal?
21:18 <epsy> the server
21:19 <quarg> remotly
21:19 <quarg> using fto
21:19 <quarg> ftp*
21:19 <epsy> yes we know you access it remotely...but we want to know how you're accessing remotely...
21:19 <epsy> o
21:19 <epsy> huh.
21:20 <epsy> you will need al least an ssh access
21:20 <luke-jr_work> erm
21:20 <luke-jr_work> FTP sucks and is fully of security holes
21:20 <luke-jr_work> never use it
21:20 <quarg> ok i have ssh
21:20 <luke-jr_work> ssh = terminal
21:21 <quarg> o ok
21:21 <quarg> so input the command in ssh?
21:22 <epsy> yup
21:22 <quarg> well thats perfect
21:22 <quarg> i have to say you guys are a life saver
21:22 <quarg> and im sad that i have nothing to contribute
21:23 <epsy> you've an arma server... ;)
21:23 <quarg> and making maps
21:24 <quarg> soon 2 servers
21:24 <epsy> well, that's called a contribution
21:24 <quarg> i suppose
21:24 <quarg> also helping mac users with servers
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21:27 <quarg> thnx guys 
21:33 <quarg> well it seems that it doesnt work and the file doestn exist
21:33 <quarg> :(
21:33 <epsy> err
21:33 <epsy> look in /etc/init.d/
21:33 <epsy> for such a file
21:34 <epsy> #ping
21:34 <epsy> wtf with the bot...
21:34 <wrtlprnft> pong
21:34 <epsy> ah
21:34 <epsy> :)
21:34 <wrtlprnft> :D
21:34 <wrtlprnft> it's slow sometimes
21:35 <epsy> i know
21:36 <wrtlprnft> hmm
21:36 <wrtlprnft> but my screen session on there is frozen, too
21:36 <epsy> arma bot should answer something to the armabot-slappers :D
21:36 <wrtlprnft> for six minutes if the clock is correct
21:36 <quarg> ok the fiel isnt there
21:36 <epsy> if the clock is correct or if it's not?
21:36 <quarg> file*
21:37  * epsy loves the 'urgent windows' animation of his e17 theme :D
21:38 <quarg> is it possible to update the wiki section on server setup
21:38 <epsy> well it's sometimes completely different across some distros
21:39 <wrtlprnft> hmm, my server appears to be trashing a bit too much…
21:39 <epsy> btw, most of us are gentoo users
21:39 <wrtlprnft> i can't ssh to it anymore :X
21:39 <quarg> ok i see
21:39 <epsy> oo
21:40 <epsy> café works?
21:40 <epsy> #ping
21:40 <wrtlprnft> that's another server
21:40 <epsy> ..
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21:43 <quarg> umm should the dedicated server folder be put somewere specific?
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21:45 <epsy> wrtlprnft, all on htf >.<
21:45 <epsy> :P
21:47 <quarg> thnx guys ttl
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21:53 <epsy> #ping
21:53 <epsy> -.-
21:53 <armabot> pong
21:53 <epsy> :D
21:55 <epsy> #eliza you are stupid
21:55 <armabot> epsy: Why do you say i are stupid?
21:55 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: you should have told quarg to contribute his maps
21:55 <epsy> XD
21:55 <luke-jr_work> #ping
21:55 <armabot> pong
21:55 <luke-jr_work> #pong
21:55 <luke-jr_work> :o
21:56  * epsy wonders how he could get his htf server working with more than 4 players :/
21:56 <epsy> #poing
21:56 <armabot> piong
21:56 <epsy> #piong
21:56 <armabot> poing
21:56 <epsy> :D
21:56 <luke-jr_work> epsy: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
21:56 <luke-jr_work> :D
21:56 <epsy> heh
21:56 <epsy> i'm not really speaking of lags
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21:57 <epsy> it's unplayable ><
21:57 <luke-jr_work> ...
21:58 <epsy> too munch trails >.<
21:59 <epsy> maybe with a higher size factor...
21:59 <epsy> and rim accel...
22:06 <luke-jr_work> http://hachi.dashjr.org/~luke-jr/tmp/vnc/a.html
22:06  * epsy hates java
22:06 <epsy> Loading...
22:06 <epsy> -.-
22:07  * epsy keeps getting warnings
22:07  * epsy wonders why he should use such a weird thing instead of a real vnc clent
22:08 <wrtlprnft> #ping
22:08 <armabot> pong
22:08 <wrtlprnft> wow
22:08 <luke-jr_work> cuz your real vnc client is insecure?
22:08  * epsy sees a 'send ctrl+aly+del"button ><
22:08 <luke-jr_work> lol
22:08 <epsy> 1/it's horriblr
22:09 <epsy> 2/it's java
22:09 <epsy> 3/still connecting
22:09 <wrtlprnft> woot, arma works again
22:10 <wrtlprnft> s/arma/java
22:10 <epsy> XD
22:10 <luke-jr_work> epsy: it doesn't require installing a program
22:10 <luke-jr_work> and can be used from a browser
22:10 <epsy> luke-jr_work, it needs java
22:10 <luke-jr_work> everyone has java
22:10  * epsy notes wrtlprnft is in sed mode :D
22:11 <epsy> i dont have java
22:11 <epsy> at least, it doesn't work
22:11 <epsy> welmcome to your debian system!
22:11 <epsy> thuis makes me remember of your cracked demo servers
22:12 <epsy> remote side closed connection
22:12 <luke-jr_work> hm?
22:12 <luke-jr_work> I've never had a server cracked
22:12 <epsy> [ login again ]
22:17 <luke-jr_work> epsy: back up
22:17 <epsy> so you have a vnc server that runs on a tty, or on qemu?
22:18 <luke-jr_work> and online now
22:18 <luke-jr_work> qemu
22:18 <luke-jr_work> outside access only via SSL
22:20 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:20 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 53.8°F (3:22 PM CST on February 21, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Rising). 
22:21 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: go set it up
22:21 <ghableska> huh?
22:22 <luke-jr_work> http://hachi.dashjr.org/~luke-jr/tmp/vnc/a.html
22:22 <epsy> still trying to connect
22:23 <luke-jr_work> epsy: with the java?
22:23 <epsy> yup
22:23 <luke-jr_work> O.o
22:23 <epsy> ah
22:23 <epsy> got it
22:23 <epsy> so you want i install you debian?
22:23 <epsy> xD
22:24 <epsy> XD
22:24 <epsy> remote side closed connection
22:24 <luke-jr_work> retry
22:24 <epsy> try using tightvnc and x11vnc from ~x86
22:25 <epsy> again
22:25 <luke-jr_work> grr
22:25 <luke-jr_work> stop using non-java
22:25 <luke-jr_work> they b0rk it
22:25 <epsy> i still use yor java-thing
22:25 <epsy> is it x11vnc you're trying ?
22:25 <luke-jr_work> someone else/
22:25 <luke-jr_work> no
22:26  * epsy had problems with x11vnc
22:26 <epsy> it was keeping crashing on connections
22:26 <luke-jr_work> x11vnc's java applet
22:26 <epsy> xD
22:26 <luke-jr_work> but that's it
22:26 <epsy> (sry)
22:27 <epsy> luke-jr_work, want to try with an hungrarian vnc fanatic?
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22:27 <luke-jr_work> wtf?
22:27 <epsy> lol
22:27 <luke-jr_work> hurry up
22:27 <luke-jr_work> :p
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22:34 <GodTodd> #weather 50266
22:34 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 52.9°F (3:37 PM CST on February 21, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Rising). 
22:35 <ghableska> it's too warm
22:35 <ghableska> :(
22:35 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
22:35 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 77.7°F (3:38 PM CST on February 21, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa. 
22:38 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
22:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 25°F / -4°C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM AST; Tonight - A few clouds. Wind northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40. Low minus 16.; Thursday - Sunny. Wind west 20 km/h. High minus 6. Cold wind chill minus 25 in the morning. Thursday night..clear. Low minus 16.; Friday - (1 more message)
22:39 <Vanhayes> #more
22:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: A mix of sun and cloud. High minus 4.;
22:43 <MaZuffeR> #weather turku
22:43 <armabot> MaZuffeR: The current temperature in Turku, Finland is -4.0°F (11:20 PM EET on February 21, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -5.8°F. Windchill: -18.4°F. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa. 
22:47  * luke-jr_work pokes ghableska and epsy 
22:49  * epsy slaps armabot xD
22:49  * epsy slaps java, too
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23:15 <malnilion> Heh, open source is wonderful
23:16 <malnilion> I get to see what makes this beast of game run :)
23:18 <luke-jr_work> malnilion: O.o
23:18 <luke-jr_work> n00b?
23:19 <malnilion> I suppose...I dunno.  I'm trying to pick my way through the arma source :)
23:19 <luke-jr_work> hehe
23:19 <luke-jr_work> it's ugly
23:19 <luke-jr_work> :x
23:19 <luke-jr_work> wanna help me rewrite it?
23:19 <malnilion> If I can learn some C++ lol
23:20 <malnilion> I've got very minimal knowledge
23:20 <_Sticky_> the arma source is a bit of a beast
23:24 <malnilion> Is a full rewrite planned?
23:26 <luke-jr_work> not really
23:26 <luke-jr_work> just an idea I like
23:27 <_Sticky_> heh im surprised that you guys have managed to write so much in your spare time...woulndt a full rewrite take years?
23:28 <malnilion> Not necessarily.
23:29 <luke-jr_work> a full rewrite would get us more developers, as only a small bit would be in C++
23:29 <malnilion> What language would you use instead?
23:29 <_Sticky_> what language would you go to??
23:30 <luke-jr_work> invent a new one! :D
23:30 <_Sticky_> heh
23:30 <luke-jr_work> lol jk
23:30 <luke-jr_work> but game logic and such would all be part of configuration
23:30 <luke-jr_work> not actual code
23:31 <luke-jr_work> and other stuff could be Python or any other scripting lang
23:31 <epsy> luke-jr_work, morning ^^
23:31 <_Sticky_> java's nice but im not sure i trust all these speed comparisons that state it rivals c++...it still fells slugish to me
23:31 <malnilion> We could program it in Brainfuck :D
23:31 <luke-jr_work> _Sticky_: yeah, anything interpreted is slower
23:31 <luke-jr_work> I mean stuff like controlling matches
23:32 <luke-jr_work> lowlevel (C++ or otherwise) would do the rendering and such
23:32 <luke-jr_work> but scripts could do match control, administration, chat, authentication
23:32 <luke-jr_work> etc
23:32 <_Sticky_> isnt python a bit slow??
23:32 <malnilion> Not for scripting.
23:32 <luke-jr_work> nothing I mentioned needs to be fast
23:33 <_Sticky_> hmm ok so the game engine would still be c++
23:34 <luke-jr_work> the engine only basically
23:34 <luke-jr_work> or C
23:34 <luke-jr_work> or Qt
23:34 <_Sticky_> NOOOO not qt
23:34 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:34 <_Sticky_> ive just had bad experiances with it
23:35 <_Sticky_> actualy the qt 3d stuff aint bad
23:35 <luke-jr_work> Qt pwns
23:35 <luke-jr_work> but anyway
23:35 <_Sticky_> I think my problem is i didnt bother with qt designer...recently having tryed it it would have saved me alot of trouble
23:36 <luke-jr_work> haha
23:37 <malnilion> luke-jr_work, how could you ensure that people wouldn't hack the game to cheat if you used python scripts?
23:37 <luke-jr_work> malnilion: cheat how?
23:37 <_Sticky_> the only thing stopping people hacking a client now is lack of knowledge
23:37 <malnilion> I don't know, when you're including match control, would it determine who the winner of the match is and so forth?
23:38 <luke-jr_work> on the server, yes
23:38 <luke-jr_work> match control would be server-side
23:38 <malnilion> What if you're running a local multiplayer game?
23:38 <_Sticky_> heh you would have to be pretty competative to cheat at a lan
23:38 <luke-jr_work> obviously the host controls that
23:39 <malnilion> I guess
23:39 <malnilion> Hehe, you'd risk getting punched in the face :P
23:42 <_Sticky_> my biggest wish items are sort out the fps degredation as more people join and try tron ultimate frisbee
23:42 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:42 <malnilion> luke-jr_work, why was music added to arma?
23:43 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:43 <luke-jr_work> ask Lucifer_arma 
23:43 <malnilion> Was he the main proponent?
23:43 <luke-jr_work> he wrote it
23:45 <malnilion> Truly, I have no problem with it, I think it's kinda cool, but then on the flipside, I wonder...why not just use an external application?
23:46 <luke-jr_work> :)
23:48 <malnilion> I think music in the menus is kinda nifty.
23:49 <malnilion> But sound, in general, output by armagetron gets really messed up when you give another window focus.
23:51 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:51 <_Sticky_> got to love the eGrid::DrawLine function...880 lines long and cant figure out what half of it does
23:52 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:53 <Vanhayes> wow, I just found a book written in 1909 in a cupboard underneath my sink
23:54 <malnilion> Published?
23:54 <malnilion> Because I have plenty of books written long before 1909 :)
23:54 <Vanhayes> heh, ya thats what I meant, published in 1909
23:55 <Vanhayes> pretty good condition too
23:55 <malnilion> That's pretty sweet.  What is it?
23:55 <Vanhayes> the best of the world's classics vol 4
23:56 <malnilion> So it's a big book, I take it? :)
23:57 <Vanhayes> nope, its actually reall small
23:57 <Vanhayes> less than the size of an average novel
23:57 <_Sticky_> heh...very discriminating authors
23:58 <_Sticky_> whos it by??
23:58 <malnilion> Is it a collection of the "world's classics" or a book discussing the world's classics?
23:59 <Vanhayes> says its editor and cheif is henry cabot lodge and executive editor francis W. halsey
23:59 <Vanhayes> no real author
23:59 <Vanhayes> printed by Funk & Wagnalls company
23:59 <_Sticky_> yeah managed to find that on google cabot was a senator
23:59 <Vanhayes> which sounds familiar

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