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Log from 2006-12-30:
--- Day changed Sat Dec 30 2006
00:01 <Durka> anyone here?
00:02 <ghableska> No.
00:02 <Durka> ok
00:07 <guru3> haha this cycle's rear wheel is going backwards :D
00:07 <ghableska> O_o
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00:23 <mkzelda> Who maintains the layman overlay?
00:24 <mkzelda> and would you add ~sparc to the list of KEYWORDS?
00:24 <wrtlprnft> “the” layman overlay?
00:24 <wrtlprnft> there's many
00:24 <wrtlprnft> layman -L IIRC
00:25 <mkzelda> no
00:25 <mkzelda> i mean the arma
00:25 <wrtlprnft> ooh
00:25 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work
00:25 <wrtlprnft> probably
00:25 <mkzelda> figured
00:26 <mkzelda> it works, as well as parallelizes nicely
00:27 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:27 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 53.6°F (4:54 PM CST on December 29, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa. 
00:29 <Durka> hey dook
00:29 <mkzelda> jeu
00:29 <mkzelda> hey
00:29 <mkzelda>      Fri Dec 29 23:21:56 2006 >>> games-action/armagetronad-0.3.0
00:29 <mkzelda>        merge time: 5 minutes and 38 seconds.
00:29 <Comsn> jebus
00:29 <Comsn> the noobs come to fort cafe a lot
00:29 <mkzelda> on my 440mhz sparc
00:29 <wrtlprnft> huh?
00:30 <Comsn> just noob after noob ;\
00:30 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: I just read over the chat logs from before :P
00:30 <wrtlprnft> how do you get that merge time thing?
00:30 <mkzelda> lol
00:30 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: so, do you hate me now?
00:30 <mkzelda> genlop
00:30 <ghableska> and I think I've recovered
00:30 <ghableska> nah
00:30 <wrtlprnft> will you still do whatever i'm saying?
00:30 <mkzelda> emerge genlop, genlop -t packagename
00:30 <ghableska> probably :P
00:30 <mkzelda> genlop -c for current merge, estimated finish time
00:30 <wrtlprnft> sounds nice
00:32 <wrtlprnft> note that someone could have kicked me, too, if they had just tried
00:32 <wrtlprnft> because when i was actually trying to help you i executed the command to chenge my pass
00:33 <ghableska> heh
00:34 <guru3> trying to play on ctwf
00:34 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: 3:35 here, but this machine is running at 1.3GHz
00:34 <guru3> i feel bad
00:34 <guru3> for people that first try to play there
00:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah
00:34 <mkzelda>      Fri Dec 29 18:31:26 2006 >>> games-action/armagetronad-0.3.0
00:34 <mkzelda>        merge time: 3 minutes and 44 seconds.
00:34 <guru3> really bad
00:35 <wrtlprnft> it's like that with many fortress servers
00:35 <mkzelda> thats a 1.6
00:35 <wrtlprnft> actually slower?
00:35 <wrtlprnft> well, as if raw clock rate counted
00:35 <mkzelda> p4
00:35 <wrtlprnft> this is a pentium-m
00:35 <wrtlprnft> also my emerge is always niced 20
00:36 <mkzelda>  4 minutes and 3 seconds. ... p4 1.9
00:36 <guru3> i keep killing myself
00:36 -!- Durka is now known as Durka-away4-1hr
00:36 <wrtlprnft> darn thing is full
00:36 <Durka-away4-1hr> did it work
00:36 <Durka-away4-1hr> w00t
00:36 <wrtlprnft> i wanna see how guru3 is playing
00:37 <guru3> no don't
00:37 <guru3> i'm doing crap
00:37 <guru3> getting about 20fps at lowest settings
00:37 <guru3> cause i'm on my laptop
00:37 <guru3> it's one of my worst ever tron experiences
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00:44 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: come to styball :P
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00:48 <wrtlprnft> nah, i#m gonna go to bed
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01:01 <wrtlprnft> thanks to genlop and mkzelda i now know that reemerging my entire system would only take two days… this can't be right?
01:07 <wrtlprnft> #night
01:07 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
01:08 <ghableska> night
02:00 <ghableska> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35108
02:00 <ghableska> hahaha
02:06 <spidey> #last --with spidey --nolimit
02:06 <spidey> #last --from --nolimit --with spidey --nolimit
02:06 <ghableska> O_o
02:06 <spidey> #ping
02:06 <spidey> ..
02:06 <ghableska> #ping
02:07 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:09 <armabot> spidey: [20:32:36] <wrtlprnft> the spam, the kicking spidey and deja_vu_, how we got ghableska to tell us his password, [16:20:59] <wrtlprnft> and i still think only spidey (hi there!) should have been kicked as he started it, and deja_vu_ (hi there you too!) should have gotten a warning for joining his child's play, [16:20:04] <wrtlprnft> but kicking spidey isn't a bad thing, [16:19:42] <ghableska> why wasn't spidey (16 more messages)
02:09 <armabot> spidey: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
02:10 <armabot> pong
02:10 <armabot> pong
02:10 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (6:54 PM CST on December 29, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa. 
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02:13 <spidey> i'm getting a dsl line 
02:13 <ghableska> from what?
02:13 <spidey> >.>
02:13 <spidey> bellsouth
02:14 <ghableska> no, what did you have before?
02:14 <spidey> cable
02:14 <spidey> and
02:14 <spidey> i'm keeping it
02:14 <spidey> :|
02:14 <spidey> dsl is 6mbit down and 512kbit up
02:14 <spidey> just getting it to see if the quality will be better than my cable
02:15 <spidey> i know it couldn't get any worse :|
02:18 <luke-jr> mkzelda: sparc works or doesn't?
02:19 <luke-jr> spidey: cable *and* DSL? O.o
02:19 <luke-jr> spidey: see if you can get Speakeasy :)
02:19 <spidey> i can't
02:19 <luke-jr> o
02:19 <spidey> bellsouth is the only one that provides here
02:20 <spidey> bellsouth for dsl and charter for cable
02:22 <luke-jr> spidey: what's your ph #?
02:22 <spidey> ...
02:22 <spidey> it's on the domain thingy
02:22 <spidey> umm. sec
02:22 <spidey> 731-642-9348
02:22 <spidey> that be it
02:23 <luke-jr> hm, you can get an OC3 for $60/mo O.o
02:30 <spidey> wtf
02:31 <spidey> where!?
02:33 <spidey> luke-jr, 
03:15 <Vanhayes> #ping
03:15 <armabot> pong
03:15 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
03:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 14°F / -10°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.52in / 1033hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM AST; Tonight - A few clouds. Wind northwest 30 km/h gusting to 50. Low minus 14. Cold wind chill minus 25 overnight.; Saturday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Increasing cloudiness in the afternoon with 70 percent chance of flurries. Wind west 20 (1 more message)
03:17 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:17 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 50.0°F (7:54 PM CST on December 29, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa. 
03:17 <Vanhayes> #more
03:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: km/h gusting to 40. High minus 4. Saturday night..cloudy with 70 percent chance of flurries in the evening. Clearing overnight. Wind west 20 km/h becoming northwest 30 gusting to 50 near midnight. Low minus 11.; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud. High minus 4.;
03:17 <luke-jr> spidey: 
03:17 <spidey> where?
03:17 <luke-jr> o
03:18 <luke-jr> i forgot to say
03:18 <luke-jr> j/k
03:18 <luke-jr> :)
03:18 <spidey> >:|
03:18 <luke-jr> you wish :p
03:18 <spidey> hell yea..
03:18  * luke-jr imagines you'd be CEO of some big company within a year or smth :p
03:19 <spidey> oc3...of course xD
03:19 <spidey> who needs a dedicated server then, could host myself!
03:19 <luke-jr> heh
03:20 <spidey> i want verizon fios
03:20 <spidey> they got a package i think it's like 15mbit down and 2mbit up or something for $50
03:20 <spidey> i think
03:23 <spidey> debian:/home/soldat-server# ./soldatserver
03:23 <spidey> -bash: ./soldatserver: Permission denied
03:23 <spidey> ^^wtf
03:24 <spidey> nvm
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03:30 <ghableska> :/
03:48 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: you have a very weird styball strategy
03:49 <luke-jr> thanks
03:49 <luke-jr> I made it up as I went along
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04:04 <ghableska> luke-jr: what do you do?
04:04 <luke-jr> eh, press my 5 left-turn binds repeatedly mostly
04:05 <ghableska> o.0
04:05 <luke-jr> took out some of the enemy
04:05 <luke-jr> the only way to kill them it seems
04:06 <Vanhayes> the point of the game isnt to kill the other team, its to score a goal
04:11 <luke-jr> easier to kill off the other team
04:12 <Vanhayes> but thats not the point of the game...
04:12 <luke-jr> :)
04:12 <Vanhayes> thats like trying to kill everyone in fortress instead of trying to defend/attack the fortress
04:15 <luke-jr> Estimated update time: 2 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes.
04:15 <luke-jr> that's what I do
04:35 <Comsn> #serverdetails team sumo
04:35 <Comsn> lets go!
04:35 <armabot> Comsn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: No online players.
04:41 <Comsn> bad vanhayes
04:41 <Comsn> sliding?
04:41 <Comsn> #serverdetails team sumo
04:41 <armabot> Comsn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (3/12): infilk, Kamakazi, Vogel
04:41 <Vanhayes> really bad, have been all day
04:42 <Comsn> chico / styball hides lag
04:42 <ghableska> who's your isp?
04:46 <Vanhayes> aliant
04:50 <ghableska> http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/gtsb/JoinTheClick/Join%20the%20Click_bb.mov <-- It's a sad thought that this is the best way of informing people of seatbelt safety
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05:26 <ghableska> GodTodd: hi
05:29 <GodTodd> yo
06:01 <spidey> ?
06:03 <GodTodd> !
06:04 <ghableska> †
06:06 <ghableska> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/Death_race.jpg <-- this was controversial?
06:09 <spidey> #g 113 kbps in kb/s
06:10 <armabot> spidey: 113 kbps = 113 kilobits / second
06:10 <ghableska> ...
06:10 <spidey> ..
06:10 <ghableska> what are you trying to convert?
06:12 <spidey> #g 1mbit/s in kb/s
06:12 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:13 <spidey> #g 1mbit in kb/s
06:13 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:13 <ghableska> #g 1 mb/s in kb/s
06:13 <armabot> ghableska: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:13 <spidey> mb/s isn't mbit/s
06:13 <spidey> 1mb/s = 1024kb/s
06:13 <ghableska> oh
06:13 <spidey> 1mbit = 100kb/s
06:13 <spidey> or so
06:14 <spidey> #g 1mbit in kb
06:14 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:14 <spidey> #g 1 MB in KB
06:14 <armabot> spidey: 1 megabyte = 1,024 kilobytes
06:14 <spidey> die
06:14 <spidey> #g 1 MBIT in KB
06:14 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:15 <spidey> #g 1024kilobit in kilobyte
06:16 <spidey> luke-jr, pin
06:16 <spidey> ping
06:23 <armabot> spidey: 1,024 kilobit = 128 kilobyte
06:23 <spidey> well
06:23 <spidey> nvm armabot finally told me :D
06:26 <GodTodd> yeah...
06:26 <GodTodd> #g 1024/8
06:26 <armabot> GodTodd: 1,024 / 8 = 128
06:26 <GodTodd> :P
06:28 <ghableska> haha
06:28 <GodTodd> i may not know much but i know 1 byte == 8 bits ;)
06:42 <ghableska> #weather 50265
06:42 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (10:54 PM CST on December 29, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa. 
07:01 <ghableska> #night
07:02 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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09:00 <spidey> luke-jr, ping
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09:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
09:50 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune: I'll give you a definite maybe. -Samuel Goldwyn
09:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> lol
10:05  * Lucifer_arma rubs his eyes
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
10:34 <wrtlprnft> armabot: ping
10:34 <armabot> pong
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10:47 <Lucifer_arma> heya z-man, I see you're back from the island of the lesbianos
10:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> lol
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> you know, my theater teacher a couple semesters ago used to say his mom was born a lesbian, lived for 90-someodd years a lesbian, and died a lesbian
10:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wb z-man 
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> and the kids would laugh, right?
10:48 <wrtlprnft> o_O
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> then late in the semester he'd mention offhand that his mom lived on the island of lesbos :)
11:03 <DrJoeTron> well I just destryoyed my sleep schedule
11:10 <guru3> the real question here, is why did lucifer take theater
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, required fine arts elective?
11:10 <guru3> ah, that
11:10 <guru3> same reason i took photography a couple years back
11:12 <DrJoeTron> I was a FAG in high school
11:12 <DrJoeTron> Fine Arts Guy :D
11:12 <guru3> does seem like the forums are getting more spam lately
11:12 <Lucifer_arma> so is the wiki and my inbox
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> I've seen a few news items that talk about the increase of spam over the last 4-6 months
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's a worldwide increase
11:13 <DrJoeTron> yeah really
11:13 <DrJoeTron> my gmail address is feeling it
11:13 <guru3> i've gotta think up a way to reduce it again :/
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> global thermonuclear war
11:14 <guru3> something easily implementable
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> tht reminds me, I need to see if there's an update to Bad Behavior
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> #g 0.12 * 1500
11:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.12 * 1,500 = 180
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> I can't believe they didn't want my harmonica story.  :/
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> what kind of western magazine doesn't want to know why the fuck cowboys played harmonicas in the first place?
11:17 <guru3> sometimes you have too much fun with spam sometimes lucifer
11:20 <guru3> you know ive got something like 130 spam ips banned on the forums firewall
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11:37 <DrJoeTron> whats this!?\
11:37 <DrJoeTron> a pirate mmorpg?
11:37 <DrJoeTron> for free? 
11:37 <DrJoeTron> yes please ":D
11:50 <Lucifer_arma> link?
11:56 <guru3> ok
11:56 <guru3> new anti spam measures are in place
11:56 <guru3> and hopefully i didn't cock anything up by doing them :>
12:31 <wrtlprnft> guru3: what are they? :)
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12:33 <guru3> a fake registration route
12:33 <wrtlprnft> ah
12:33 <wrtlprnft> someone suggested you disallow people from posting links in their first post, wouldn't that work, too?
12:34 <guru3> no clue how to do that
12:34 <wrtlprnft> ok then, i don't know how to either
12:34 <spidey> hmm
12:34 <wrtlprnft> but it would be a sort of clean way
12:34 <guru3> yeah
12:35 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.net/layout/layout/button/button.html   <---is it just me or is there a 5 second delay between images?
12:35 <spidey> hover over one of them o.O
12:36 <wrtlprnft> well
12:36 <wrtlprnft> it's loading the button graphic as you hover
12:36 <spidey> but shouldn't it be cached after the first time?
12:36 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: you need to preload the images
12:36 <spidey> when i reload the page it's still slow
12:37 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
12:37 <wrtlprnft> because reloading means reloading everything
12:37 <wrtlprnft> or deleting the cache of everything on that page
12:37 <spidey> o
12:37 <Lucifer_arma> there's some javascript to get it to preload the image, but I always found using a hidden element worked better
12:37 <Lucifer_arma> then you use css to load the image :)
12:37 <wrtlprnft> i suggest you make one tilable background image for the gray buttons, and one for the blue ones
12:38 <wrtlprnft> then you build the buttons from the text and the background
12:38 <wrtlprnft> so you only have to preload one image
12:38 <Lucifer_arma> I thought that's what he did already, hmmm.....
12:38 <wrtlprnft> umm, and the code you're using is ancient
12:38 <Lucifer_arma> if he didn't, then yes, he should do that :)
12:38 <wrtlprnft> no, it's 2 images for every button
12:39 <wrtlprnft> and js with inline event handlers for the hovering
12:39 <wrtlprnft> it would be incredibly easy w/ css
12:39 <Lucifer_arma> wow, no wonder.  If it's just one background image that you change, and a browser fails to preload it for some reason, then you only have to wait one time and it'll be fine on all buttons
12:39 <wrtlprnft> yep
12:39 <Lucifer_arma> css has the additional advantage of having the browser preload everything anyway.
12:40 <spidey> rollover?
12:40 <wrtlprnft> #hover
12:40 <spidey> a:hover
12:40 <spidey> :p
12:40 <wrtlprnft> make something like <a href="somewhere"><img src="buttontxt.png" alt="home" /></a>
12:40 <wrtlprnft> then css
12:40 <wrtlprnft> a:hover img {
12:41 <wrtlprnft> background: url(bg-gray.png) repeat-x;
12:41 <wrtlprnft> }
12:41 <wrtlprnft> err
12:41 <wrtlprnft> a img {
12:41 <wrtlprnft> background: url(bg-gray.png) repeat-x;
12:41 <wrtlprnft> }
12:41 <wrtlprnft> a:hover img {
12:41 <wrtlprnft> background: url(bg-blue.gif) repeat-x;
12:41 <wrtlprnft> }
12:41 <wrtlprnft> that
12:41 <spidey> no-repeat
12:41 <spidey> :p
12:41 <wrtlprnft> no
12:41 <wrtlprnft> repeat-x
12:42 <Lucifer_arma> he did specify "tileable" a little while ago
12:42 <wrtlprnft> that backgound can easily be tiled
12:42 <wrtlprnft> at some 75 pixels you won't even notice the tiling
12:42 <wrtlprnft> and, looking at it, it's already tiled anyways
12:42 <Lucifer_arma> hell, it looks like spidey already tiled it by hand anyway
12:43 <Lucifer_arma> may as well let the browser do the tiling for you, you get more flexibility thataway
12:43 <spidey> ?
12:43 <wrtlprnft> less filesize = less delay before the first hover effect
12:43 <spidey> i didn't
12:43 <mkzelda> in other words, you suck
12:43 <wrtlprnft> spidey: can you make a button without text for me?
12:44 <mkzelda> :D
12:44 <wrtlprnft> but with some width to work with
12:44 <spidey> i didn't make the botton
12:44 <spidey> damien did
12:44 <Lucifer_arma> fine, he tiled it by hand :)
12:44 <mkzelda> the son of satan?
12:44 <Lucifer_arma> both buttons are clearly tiled :)
12:44 <spidey> ugh
12:44 <spidey> no
12:44 <wrtlprnft> then tell him to give you the tiles he used
12:44 <Lucifer_arma> I used to know a woman who named one kid Angelo and the other Damon
12:45 <Lucifer_arma> I always wondered if she knew she labeled them that way
12:45 <spidey> he went to bed :/
12:45 <wrtlprnft> the tiles only have a with of some 60px
12:45 <wrtlprnft> then ask him later
12:45 <spidey> k
12:45 <Lucifer_arma> and tell him not to waste your time in the future with this amateurish crap
12:45 <spidey> ..
12:46 <wrtlprnft> and tell him not to save the buttons as jpg first, then convert to gif
12:46 <wrtlprnft> it looks awful
12:46 <wrtlprnft> the static one should be saved to PNG, the animated one to gif
12:47 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you should only use jpg when you have a sharp stick stuck up your ass
12:47 <wrtlprnft> well, it's reasonable for photos
12:47 <wrtlprnft> but not for anything with sharp corners
12:47 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, I think the problem jpg solves is well-solved by other methods, and jpg is largely obsolete now.
12:48 <Lucifer_arma> can't think of a one situation where jpg is preferred to png :)
12:48 <wrtlprnft> on the web?
12:48 <Lucifer_arma> nope
12:48 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.net/layout/layout/ <--that's th elayout
12:48 <spidey> i have to put together
12:48 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: err, ever tried saving a normal photo to png? it grows huge
12:49 <Lucifer_arma> decrease the quality?
12:49 <wrtlprnft> Index of /layout/layout
12:49 <wrtlprnft> nice layout
12:49 <spidey> ...
12:49 <Lucifer_arma> I convert all my photos to png using the GIMP and wind up with better quality output and smaller file sizes
12:49 <wrtlprnft> you can't easily see it on a photo, really, and it's well worth the size decrease
12:49 <spidey> it's pictures you put together
12:49 <spidey> think of it like jigsaw
12:49 <spidey> >.>
12:50 <Lucifer_arma> of course, that does mean my photos are technically retouched
12:50 <wrtlprnft> well, decoding and encoding jpg multiple times kills any images
12:50 <spidey> hey
12:51 <spidey> how do i show certian processes with top
12:51 <spidey> isn't it like
12:51 <wrtlprnft> http://www.fallin-angels.net/layout/layout/upperborder.png
12:51 <spidey> top | grep whatever^
12:51 <spidey> ?
12:51 <wrtlprnft> that's soo tilable
12:51 <wrtlprnft> err
12:51 <wrtlprnft> no
12:51 <wrtlprnft> emerge htop
12:51 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: it looks like he's aiming for a fixed layout
12:51 <wrtlprnft> that anyways
12:51 <spidey> debian:/# apt-get install htop
12:51 <spidey> :p
12:51 <Lucifer_arma> which means I pretty much have nothing else to say about it
12:51 <wrtlprnft> whatever
12:52 <Lucifer_arma> urpmi htop
12:52 <spidey> yum htop
12:52 <spidey> !
12:52 <wrtlprnft> anyways
12:52  * Lucifer_arma still wants a linux distribution built with source rpm packages
12:52 <wrtlprnft> what does thumbs.db do on the web server?
12:53 <Lucifer_arma> isn't it for windows explorer?
12:53 <spidey> nothing?
12:53 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it is
12:53 <wrtlprnft> but why the f** do you put it online?
12:53 <Lucifer_arma> because windows explorer hides it's presence, and he uploaded the whole directory?
12:54 <wrtlprnft> probably
12:54 <wrtlprnft> but it shouldn't be there
12:54 <wrtlprnft> it's evil.
12:54  * Lucifer_arma quietly notes Konqueror can generate it's thumbnails on the fly very quickly and has no need of such a thing as a thumbs.db
12:54  * wrtlprnft notes that it does save the thumbnails in ~/.thumbnails or somewhere
12:55  * Lucifer_arma notes that can be disabled
12:55 <spidey> it's there because i uploaded the directory
12:55 <Lucifer_arma> man, I"m the sherlock holmes of the internet!
12:55  * wrtlprnft notes that that's still better than polluting all directories you ever view with useless files
12:55  * Lucifer_arma agrees
12:56 <wrtlprnft> :)
12:56 <Lucifer_arma> but I prefer on-the-fly generation to any sort of thumbnail caching :)
12:56 <wrtlprnft> wow
12:56 <Lucifer_arma> mom
12:56 <wrtlprnft> this file consists of at least 1KB 00s and FFs
12:57 <Lucifer_arma> gif?
12:57 <spidey> ¢
12:58 <Lucifer_arma> A judge ruled Friday that congressional aspirant Christine Jennings has no right to examine the source code that runs the electronic voting machines at the center of a disputed Southwest Florida congressional race.
12:58 <spidey> ™š¢£¤¥¦§¨
12:58 <spidey> o.O
12:58 <Lucifer_arma> that really sucks.
12:58 <wrtlprnft> athias@laptop $ file Thumbs.db                                                                             ~
12:58 <wrtlprnft> Thumbs.db: Microsoft Installer
12:58 <wrtlprnft> last time i tried to file one of these things it was considered an ms word document
12:58 <Lucifer_arma> that is the suckiest information I've received all month
13:00 <spidey> 8 days :/
13:00 <wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop 1 $ msiexec /i Thumbs.db                                                                     ~
13:00 <wrtlprnft> err:msi:MSI_OpenDatabaseW storage GUID is not a MSI database GUID {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
13:00 <wrtlprnft> aww
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13:16 <DrJoeTron> spidey, 
13:17 <DrJoeTron> spidey smells like flammin' hot cheetos and cheap wine
13:43 <DrJoeTron> pirates :D
13:50 <spidey> ?
13:52 <spidey> DrJoeTron, defcon
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13:53 <spidey> #g 384kbit in kb
13:54 <spidey> #g 384 kbit/s in kb/s
13:54 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
13:54 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
13:54 <spidey> what's the equation for kbits => kb/s
13:54 <wrtlprnft> /8
13:54 <spidey> o
13:55 <wrtlprnft> wow, that's REALLY basic
13:55 <spidey> heh
13:55 <wrtlprnft> #g 384 kbit/s in KB/s
13:55 <spidey> i used to know...just forgot
13:55 <spidey> it's 48
13:55 <wrtlprnft> #ping
13:55 <wrtlprnft> i wanna fix armabot x_X
13:55 <Lucifer_arma> don't ask me, I don't even know how bit a byte is
13:55 <spidey> reboot your server?
13:55 <spidey> lol
13:55 <wrtlprnft> nah
13:56 <wrtlprnft>  13:56:26 up 44 days, 23:38,  2 users,  load average: 4.92, 3.24, 2.15
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13:56 <spidey>  16:28:50 up 8 days, 15:33,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
13:56 <wrtlprnft> it's sort of busy
13:56 <spidey> i don't understand why it's at 0.00 0.00 0.0
13:56 <Lucifer_arma> 07:00:52 up 10 days, 11:02,  2 users,  load average: 0.77, 0.24, 0.11
13:56 <spidey> it has like 3 servers running and something else
13:56 <spidey> one of the servers is in use
13:57 <spidey> and it's only a 375mhz p2
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> isn't it just divide by 8, anyway?
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: did you try just restarting armabot?
13:58 <wrtlprnft> heh, i need to wait for my server to let me in
13:58 <spidey> haha
13:58 <Lucifer_arma> >>> 384.0/8.0
13:58 <Lucifer_arma> 48.0
13:58 <spidey> yea
13:58 <spidey> so i'll go from
13:58 <spidey> 25kb/s up to 48kb/s up
13:58 <wrtlprnft> wow
13:59 <wrtlprnft> armabot has a running time of 23.25 hours
13:59 <wrtlprnft> that's plain CPU time
13:59 <spidey> i should get the fastest package...only $5 more  and it's 64kb/s up
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> definitely time to restart her
13:59 <spidey> it*
13:59 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
13:59 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
13:59 <armabot> pong
13:59 <spidey> lol
13:59 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
13:59 <wrtlprnft> lol!
13:59 <wrtlprnft> i didn't even do anything
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> wow
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
13:59 <armabot> pong
13:59 <spidey> <spidey> it's 4
14:00 <wrtlprnft> i guess that fixed itself
14:00 <wrtlprnft> as i said, the server was busy
14:00 <wrtlprnft> generating stats
14:00 <Lucifer_arma> it's amazing how many things you can fix just by looking at it
14:00 <spidey> lol
14:02 <Lucifer_arma> 	"lemme guess, you'd like guru3 to get more into you?"
14:04 <Lucifer_arma> During this 615-day reporting period, a total of 834 different nicks were represented on #armagetron.
14:05 <Lucifer_arma> it's those nixda bastards coming in here with randomly generated names
14:05 <Lucifer_arma> and luke-jr using like 200 variations of the work "luke"
14:05 <spidey> http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/12/29/where-to-get-recent-mysql-version/
14:05 <spidey> soooooooooo
14:05 <spidey> who's gonna buy mysql?
14:05 <spidey> a copy of mysql*
14:05 <Lucifer_arma> not me, fuck those guys
14:06 <Lucifer_arma> they've always smelled like someone who was ultimately going to turn on everyone
14:06 <spidey> heh
14:06 <spidey> onlything i use mysql for is forums...
14:08 <DrJoeTron> word
14:09 <spidey> #g 48 / 5
14:09 <armabot> spidey: 48 / 5 = 9.6
14:10 <spidey> hmm
14:10 <spidey> wtf
14:10 <spidey> i can host 8 people on tron without lag at 25kb/s
14:10 <spidey> #g 25 / 8
14:10 <armabot> spidey: 25 / 8 = 3.12500
14:10 <spidey> #g 48/3
14:10 <armabot> spidey: 48 / 3 = 16
14:11 <wrtlprnft> spidey: always depends on the server
14:11 <spidey> i host dogfighting servers when i do
14:11 <spidey> slow, doublebind .001 and low rubber
14:11 <wrtlprnft> a 32 axes server with a low cycle delay, shooting, zombies and soccer will use waay more bandwidth
14:11 <spidey> heh
14:12 <spidey> nah...i just host slow, small grid servers 
14:12 <spidey> i like dogfighting
14:12 <wrtlprnft> and note that the wiki is wrong. the bandwidth usage isn't directly proportional to the number of players
14:12 <spidey> well
14:12 <wrtlprnft> it's more like O(a^x)
14:12 <spidey> ...
14:13 <spidey> wtf's 0(a^x)
14:13 <wrtlprnft> a being some constant and x the number of players
14:13 <wrtlprnft> O
14:14 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
14:15 <spidey> well
14:16 <spidey> i read it, but i didn't understand a word :))
14:16 <wrtlprnft> the whole thing?
14:16 <spidey> the top part
14:16 <spidey> and some of the equations
14:16 <wrtlprnft> O is used in computer science to describe how efficient an algorithm is
14:16 <wrtlprnft> sorting, for example
14:16 <spidey> o
14:16 <spidey> see
14:17 <spidey> that's much more understandable than the wiki
14:17 <wrtlprnft> if you just go through all elements and find the smallest, save that and find the next bigger one and so on you have O(x)
14:17 <wrtlprnft> err
14:17 <wrtlprnft> O(x)
14:17 <wrtlprnft> O(x*x)
14:17 <wrtlprnft> darn keyboard
14:17 <wrtlprnft> the last one
14:17 <spidey> #g 0(x*x)
14:17 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:17 <spidey> xD
14:17 <wrtlprnft> it's an O
14:17 <wrtlprnft> not a 0
14:17 <spidey> a 0?
14:17 <wrtlprnft> OOOOOOO
14:18 <spidey> 0?
14:18 <wrtlprnft> LMNOOOOOPQR
14:18 <spidey> ooooo
14:18 <spidey> O?
14:18 <wrtlprnft> yeah
14:18 <Lucifer_arma> the first letter of oh shit
14:18 <wrtlprnft> 0h shit?
14:18 <spidey> how can you tell the difference?
14:18 <wrtlprnft> the zero has a dot in it
14:18 <spidey> O and 0 look the same on my screen
14:18 <mkzelda> overstock.com
14:18 <Lucifer_arma> by using your BRAIN
14:18 <wrtlprnft> get a better font
14:18 <spidey> i can't
14:18 <Lucifer_arma> the 0 is thin on mine, and the O is fat
14:18 <wrtlprnft> zero * (something) = zero
14:18 <spidey> all the others the L looks like a one...
14:19 <wrtlprnft> O * (something) = O * something
14:19 <wrtlprnft> fonts that use the same glyph for O and 0 should be banned.
14:19 <Lucifer_arma> I broke my ledger when I made it display smart dates.  "Today", "Yesterday", etc.  :/
14:19 <Lucifer_arma> banning is a known Best Practice for dealing with mistakes
14:20 <wrtlprnft> it's not my mistake
14:21 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't say whose mistake it was.  I just noticed that throughout history, banning mistakes from society has always worked, hasn't it?
14:21 <wrtlprnft> a good thing :P
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14:22 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok, I didn't break my ledger, I just didn't understand how it worked :)
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> apparently when you subtract one datetime from another, 1 day really is 24 hours
14:23 <wrtlprnft> oh, really
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> imagine that
14:23 <wrtlprnft> wtf is a ledger anyways?
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> so it's showing transactions I put in yesterday as happening today because I put them in less than 24 hours ago
14:24 <Lucifer_arma> a ledger is a place where you write all your transactions :)
14:24 <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/dsbp/trunk/dsbp
14:24 <Lucifer_arma> requires PyQt4
14:24 <wrtlprnft> s/yesterday/within 24 hours
14:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, I want it to say "yesterday" when the calendar day is yesterday, not when the transaction is more than 24 hours ago
14:25 <wrtlprnft> well, i don't have a household, and the letters my bank sends me once in a while are enough for me
14:25 <wrtlprnft> forgot how they're called
14:25 <Lucifer_arma> bank statements?
14:26 <wrtlprnft> probably
14:26 <wrtlprnft> you know, those things that show you when you got what money from where and when you took how much money out of it
14:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm going to disagree completely, but I already know how stubborn you can be about obvious things you're wrong about, so I won't bother
14:27 <wrtlprnft> and when you paid how much with your card and when you transferred how much money to what other account
14:27 <wrtlprnft> o_O
14:27 <wrtlprnft> for the amounts of money i have it's fine, i guess
14:27 <wrtlprnft> note that you're talking to a student, not someone who has to make his own living
14:28 <Lucifer_arma> student = someone studying skills they expect to use and benefit them when they go to make their own life
14:28 <Lucifer_arma> and managing your own money is one of those skills which is frequently neglected to an alarming extent
14:28 <Lucifer_arma> here in America, you only get personal financial skills if you take Home Economics, which is a class designed to teach girls how to be traditional subservient women
14:28 <wrtlprnft> i don't have any managable amount of money
14:29 <wrtlprnft> i save everything i don't need for normal daily things like buying school stuff, and at some point if my account balance tells me i've got enough i go buy something i want
14:30 <DrJoeTron> I made a pillow in home ec
14:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, I obviously don't know anything about your cash flow.  :)  What I do know is that when your money is simple is the best time to learn how to manage it
14:31 <Lucifer_arma> because if you wait until it's more complicated, it gets really hard to work it out, and taking the easy way out (and trying to do it in your head) is too easy
14:31 <Lucifer_arma> but leads to disaster
14:31 <wrtlprnft> the only thing i know about some money course is that they got a big interest table thingy because they weren't expected to know about exponents
14:31 <Lucifer_arma> anecdotally, I think we waste 50% more money when we're not watching it than we do just by watching it
14:32 <Lucifer_arma> makes a big difference if you have to live on $800/month
14:32 <Lucifer_arma> (we don't now, but I used to live on $700/month when I was a bit younger)
14:33 <wrtlprnft> i guess it does
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> see, when I was living on $700/month, I shared a place with my brother.  He was making double that, but for some reason he was always broke and I always had extra cash
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> this was with bills and shit split right in half, btw
14:34 <wrtlprnft> hmm, well
14:35 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, managing your money is less about interest rates and banks and shit and more about just keeping track of what you spend and where it goes
14:35 <wrtlprnft> maybe he lived more expensively and could afford it
14:35 <Lucifer_arma> he didn't know how he was losing so much money every month.
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> See, I maintain he was blowing it all on consumables, like eating out and candy and shit like that.  He says otherwise, but he never had anything to show for it.
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> Also, I lied.  He was making ~$1000/month.  :)
14:36 <DrJoeTron> I need a job
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> I put away half my share of rent on the middle paycheck of the month, he didn't.  So on the first paycheck of the month, most of his was taken for rent, whereas I already had half of my rent stashed
14:37 <wrtlprnft> if i bought one mars a day for .6€, and a bottle of coke for .5€, i'd know that that would amount to some 35€
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14:37 <Lucifer_arma> I kept it in a CD case where I took out the black thing that holds the CD and stuck 2 $100 bills in there and put it back together
14:37 <Lucifer_arma> yes, you would.  But if you did it only sometimes when you're on the way to catch a bus, you'd never know for sure how many you bought
14:38 <wrtlprnft> so i would have to carry my laptop around everywhere i go and enter everything i bought?
14:38 <Lucifer_arma> so you'd have a fudge factor in your head, and then it usually gets applied to other things
14:38 <wrtlprnft> i could just keep the wrapping paper/bottle caps and count them at the end of the month ;)
14:38 <Lucifer_arma> no, you keep a receipt, and when you get home you spend a couple of minutes punching in your receipts
14:39 <wrtlprnft> umm, i don't get a receipt for every small thing i buy
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> then ask for them.  :)
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> here, anyway, they're required by law to provide a receipt
14:39 <wrtlprnft> here too
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> if asked.
14:40 <wrtlprnft> but i buy my drink at a store that only sells beverages, and that's why it's so cheap
14:40 <wrtlprnft> but they usually sell the stuff in bigger quantities
14:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, however you keep track of it, the point is to develop a habit where when you get home, you punch everything in
14:40 <wrtlprnft> if everyone asked for a receipt for his single .5€ bottle they'd just close during school break
14:40 <Lucifer_arma> with a checking account you usually get a little register.  You can also get very small notepads that work fine for it, just carry a pencil and a notepad
14:41 <Lucifer_arma> if you keep the cap, fine too.  :)  Just wait to throw it away until you get home and punch in the transaction.
14:41 <wrtlprnft> (and if they'd close i'd have to buy it at the “canteen”, where it's more than twice as expensive
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> the point is to keep track of it and to consistently punch in what you spend and where it went :)
14:42 <wrtlprnft> *if they closed
14:42 <wrtlprnft> bad grammar
14:42 <wrtlprnft> #last --with "svn co"
14:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [14:24:52] <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/dsbp/trunk/dsbp
14:43 <wrtlprnft> Fingerprint: 4f:92:c2:a1:82:6f:5b:f3:98:f3:fe:81:5f:57:06:ac:f5:ba:b0:88
14:43 <wrtlprnft> that correct?
14:43 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, sure.  never checked it myself....
14:43  * Lucifer_arma has lan access to the server
14:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, where should I look for the fingerprint?  :)
14:45 <wrtlprnft> already accepted it
14:45 <wrtlprnft> now what's the ebuild for pyqt?
14:46 <wrtlprnft> aaaarrrgh!
14:46 <wrtlprnft> it's PyQt4
14:46 <wrtlprnft> darn case
14:46 <wrtlprnft> ebuild names ought to be lowercase!
14:46 <mkzelda> i agree
14:47 <Lucifer_arma> umm, you'll also probably want to re-emerge pyqt3 after that
14:47 <wrtlprnft> the ebuild will hopefully tell me :)
14:47 <Lucifer_arma> at least, that's what I found.  You get a new version of SIP with PyQt4 and you need pyqt3 to be relinked to it
14:47 <Lucifer_arma> and the ebuild didn't tell me when I faced this problem myself :/
14:48 <Lucifer_arma> only matters if you have programs that depend on pyqt3 that you use, like armaspy advanced
14:48 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, you might also have to reemerge pykde if pykde uses sip
14:48 <wrtlprnft> probably revdep-rebuld will fix them all
14:49 <wrtlprnft> Error: This version of PyQt requires SIP v4.5.1 or later
14:49 <wrtlprnft> gah!
14:49 <wrtlprnft> this ebuild sucks.
14:49 <wrtlprnft> can't it just depend on the new version instead of telling me this way?
14:49 <wrtlprnft> installing sip. great.
14:50 <wrtlprnft> eta less than a minute at leasr
15:01 <Lucifer_arma> sip is small :)
15:12 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
15:16 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: sip is pure python, so no compiling
15:16 <wrtlprnft> ImportError: No module named dsmainwindow
15:16 <wrtlprnft> o_O
15:16 <Lucifer_arma> ./build/buildui.py
15:17 <wrtlprnft> the README isn't exactly helpful.
15:17 <wrtlprnft> svn mv README DONTREADME
15:17 <wrtlprnft> what sort of qt skin is that? why isn't it my default one?
15:18 <Lucifer_arma> qt4 doesn't use qt3 skins
15:18 <Lucifer_arma> and yeah, the README isn't helpful :)
15:19 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't even made a 0.1.0 release yet!
15:21 <wrtlprnft> this skin sucks, though
15:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm considering doing the pysqlite port before making a release at all, that way I don't have to support this old database format
15:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, you can configure it somewhat.  I haven't found any qt4 skins yet that I can download :/
15:22 <Lucifer_arma> do /usr/lib/qt4/bin/configure I think
15:22 <wrtlprnft> i'm gonna use the windows skin then
15:22 <wrtlprnft> it's the only reasonable one
15:22 <Lucifer_arma> I manually configured my qt4 installation to look similar to my qt3 config
15:23 <wrtlprnft> can you get rid of posts?
15:23 <wrtlprnft> umm, and define your own categories?
15:24 <Lucifer_arma> yes and no
15:24 <Lucifer_arma> both are on my todo list beefore making a release :)
15:24 <wrtlprnft> wtf
15:24 <Lucifer_arma> but right now, you have to do it by hand in the filesystem
15:25 <wrtlprnft> ah, that thing at the top is for filtering
15:25 <wrtlprnft> gas, electricity, cigaretts are totally useless to me, like most others
15:25 <Lucifer_arma> technically they're not categories though, they're accounts.  It's double-entry accounting, but I'm trying to eliminate some of the stuff in other free software that makes these programs ahrd to use
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, when it ships you're going to be able to pick from a choice of templates to generate your database, what's there is mine.  :)
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, to change the accounts, you have to go into the /accounts directory and cd to the one you want to change.  Then use mv, rm, cp, etc to modify it
15:27 <Lucifer_arma> vi properties to change the visible name, that's the only account property it has right now
15:27 <wrtlprnft> and now i entered something for $2 (btw, i don't use $), but it doesn'T show up in the balance
15:28 <Lucifer_arma> did you put both a debit and a credit account?
15:29 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/dsbp.png
15:35 <Lucifer_arma> you're looking at the general ledger.  The balance of the general ledger, by definition, is always 0, so no reason to show it
15:35 <Lucifer_arma> also, you've debited and credited the same account.  So the balance on that account will be 0.  :)
15:35 <Lucifer_arma> generally, when you spend money, you debit an asset and credit an expense.  When you earn money, you debit an Income, and credit an asset
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15:36 <Lucifer_arma> debit and credit change meanings depending on which accounts you're talking about.  :/
15:39 <wrtlprnft> but none of those assets seem to fit
15:39 <Lucifer_arma> ?  did you spend cash?
15:39 <Lucifer_arma> there is a cash account in there, isn't there?  If not, I need one, too.
15:39 <wrtlprnft> say i spent cash to buy a christmas present for someone
15:39 <wrtlprnft> there's a cash type
15:39 <Lucifer_arma> oh wow, there isn't a cash account
15:40 <Lucifer_arma> there's supposed to be, sorry
15:44 <Lucifer_arma> so, I added one to my own database by going to /dsbpdatabase/accounts/assets and doing cp -R paypal cash
15:44 <Lucifer_arma> then vi cash/properties to adjust the name shown
15:47 <wrtlprnft> hmm, ok
15:47 <wrtlprnft> i'd better close dsbp in the meantime
15:50 <wrtlprnft> i wish this was more usuable by keyboard
15:51 <Lucifer_arma> me too :/
15:51 <wrtlprnft> and more usuable at normal resolution
15:51 <Lucifer_arma> getting there, but I needed to have a working ledger quickly
15:52 <wrtlprnft> H…ent, C…mas etc is hard to decipher
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16:05 <Lucifer_arma> heh, yeah
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> I need to find out if I can make the drop-down list wider than the column
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> but that's what qt4 does.  :/
16:06 <wrtlprnft> :s
16:06 <wrtlprnft> sort of a bad idea for a design
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> What, doing H...ent?
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> that might be configurable.
16:07 <Lucifer_arma> as in, there may be a flag I could pass to the QCombobox to make it show the words differently when there's not enough room
16:07 <Lucifer_arma> I'd really prefer if it just displayed the drop box at twice the width of the column or something like that
16:07 <wrtlprnft> i like the way they're displayed, the box is just too small
16:08 <wrtlprnft> it should line up with one of the edges of the col and then take as much space as it needs in the other direction
16:09 <Lucifer_arma> yep.  Because when you open up the list, that's where your attention is, and there isn't anything else to be looking at that'll help
16:10 <Lucifer_arma> I already looked for a flag to widen the box, I suspect I'll need to subclass qcombobox and/or provide my own listview class for it
16:10 <wrtlprnft> X_x#
16:20 <DrJoeTron> god this game is lineage 2 with boats
16:31 <Comsn> #armaservers
16:31 <armabot> Comsn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Strawberry Fields (10 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (6 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || Wild West =Labyrinth CTF= (Experimental) (5 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (4 players) || 2020 team challenge (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || thekowsklan shooting (2 players) || Nixda's (1 more message)
16:32 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: what game are you talking about?
16:32 <Lucifer_arma> care to share?
16:32 <Lucifer_arma> like to trike?
16:32 <Lucifer_arma> glisten to listen?
16:33 <DrJoeTron> voyage centruy online
16:33 <DrJoeTron> its a korean game
16:33 <DrJoeTron> complete with its own engrish :D
16:34 <Lucifer_arma> do all your base belong to them?
16:35 <DrJoeTron> it made me take off every zig
16:35 <DrJoeTron> http://www.voyagecenturyonline.com/index.php
16:35 <DrJoeTron> brb
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17:07 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/kows-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
17:17 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/kow-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
17:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/HIM_epsy-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
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18:28 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/shoot-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
18:44 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if I can get a publisher to buy a book with strategy and tactics for open source games
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18:47 <wrtlprnft> i'd buy it if it was on amazon or something comparable :)
18:48 <ghableska> hi
18:48 <DrJoeTron> ooooo
18:48 <ghableska> o_O
18:48 <DrJoeTron> 10 pack of cd-rs for free at office depot
18:48 <luke-jr> where's a good place to buy a digicam?
18:48 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: CD-Rs are obsolete
18:48 <ghableska> tigerdirect?
18:49 <DrJoeTron> yeah clearly
18:49 <DrJoeTron> because luke-jr says so
18:49 <luke-jr> ghableska: TigerDirect is infamous for being a bad place to buy *anything*
18:49 <ghableska> really?
18:49 <DrJoeTron> wow!
18:49 <wrtlprnft> well, i haven't burned a CD in a while
18:49 <ghableska> I haven't had any problems with them .:P
18:49 <ghableska> but then again, you think Trillian is evil...
18:49 <luke-jr> ghableska: neither have I
18:49 <DrJoeTron> luke-jr for the first time I completely agree with you! :V
18:49 <ghableska> amazon then?
18:50 <wrtlprnft> i've got more harddrive space on half a dozen of independend servers all around the world than i'll ever need
18:50 <luke-jr> isn't amazon for books?
18:50 <ghableska> no.
18:50  * DrJoeTron puts up his hand to wait for a high five from luke-jr 
18:50 <ghableska> you can buy your own personal tank off of there too
18:50 <wrtlprnft> 18:44 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if I can get a publisher to buy a book with strategy and tactics for open source games
18:50  * luke-jr peers at DrJoeTron
18:50 <DrJoeTron> :D 
18:50 <DrJoeTron> tiger direct sucks so hard
18:50 <ghableska> luke-jr: http://www.amazon.com/JL421-Badonkadonk-Land-Cruiser-Tank/dp/B00067F1CE not just books
18:50 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: we're talking about digicams and tigerdirect now
18:51 <wrtlprnft> well, amazon does sell all kinds of things
18:51 <wrtlprnft> for a long time, actually
18:51 <ghableska> what about ebay? :P
18:51 <wrtlprnft> mixers, skis, you name it
18:51 <DrJoeTron> ghableska what are you trying to get now?
18:51 <ghableska> what?
18:52 <ghableska> I'm not getting anything...
18:52 <DrJoeTron> you should be :/
18:52 <luke-jr> I'm trying to find a decent digicam with hacking potential
18:52 <ghableska> why?
18:52 <ghableska> @dr
18:53 <wrtlprnft> run openwrt on your digicam?
18:53 <wrtlprnft> that would be cool, sort of
18:53 <wrtlprnft> playing arma on a camera
18:53 <ghableska> although, now that you mention it, I do want a macbook pro :P
18:53 <DrJoeTron> I'm gonna figure out how to use my wiimote on the pc
18:54  * DrJoeTron wonders if his keyboard and mouse is bluetooth
18:54 <ghableska> is it bluetooth?
18:56  * ghableska notices how he killed the conversation
18:56 <wrtlprnft> it was a boring conversation anyhow.
18:57 <DrJoeTron> I'm actually looking for stuff
18:58 <ghableska> http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/parasite-makes-men-dumb-women-sexy/2006/12/26/1166895290973.html
18:58 <ghableska> heh
19:00 <DrJoeTron> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833338016 I'd need this 
19:01 <ghableska> look at the user reviews
19:01 <DrJoeTron> something LIKE that
19:01 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2211960
19:02 <DrJoeTron> maybe even tried wiiLi
19:02 <DrJoeTron> try*
19:02 <DrJoeTron> wii linux :d
19:10 <ghableska> #weather 50265
19:10 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: the publisher I'm pitching has books on amazon, afaik
19:17 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (12:08 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa. 
19:17 <ghableska> wow
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19:24 -!- Arma84 is now known as Durka
19:24 <Durka> #hello
19:25 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #15 || A: The Royal Canadian Mounted Police. || Q: What was the greatest achievement in taxidermy?
19:26 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: the best of luck then :) I hope i'll be able to get a copy
19:26 <wrtlprnft> hi Durka, bye Durka (g2g)
19:27 <Durka> umm...bye?
19:27 <ghableska> #armaservers
19:27 <armabot> ghableska: Norm's Place (11 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (7 players) || Strawberry Fields (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (4 players) || °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (4 players) || ^}LC}< HIGH RUBBER CLAN SERVER (1 more message)
19:28  * Durka is gonna act like ghab right now
19:28 <Durka> #weather 50925
19:28 <Durka> or something like that
19:28 <armabot> Durka: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "50925".
19:28 <Durka> :(
19:28 <ghableska> heh
19:31 <Durka> what is it
19:31 <Durka> #weather 50525
19:31 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Clarion, Iowa is 42.8°F (12:15 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa. 
19:31 <Durka> close?
19:31 <ghableska> getting closer ;)
19:31 <Durka> :P
19:31 <Durka> :p
19:31 <Durka> i give up :)
19:33 <Durka> TELL ME!
19:33 <ghableska> 50265
19:34 <Durka> :)
19:34 <Durka> i was close
19:34 <Durka> #weather 50265
19:34 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (12:19 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa. 
19:34 <ghableska> #weather 50266
19:34 <Durka> :)))))))))))))))
19:34 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 47.7°F (12:32 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.13 in 986.3 hPa. 
19:34 <ghableska> hmm
19:34  * ghableska lives in West DM.
19:35 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
19:35 <ghableska> #cnn 50266
19:35 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 48.0°F. Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Wind: E at 6 mph (10 km/h).
19:35 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 48.0°F. Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Wind: E at 6 mph (10 km/h).
19:35 <ghableska> O_o
19:35 <Durka> lol
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19:42 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: thanks.  :)  I hope they give me an advance so I can spend the next 6 months writing and playing.  :)
19:55  * Durka Lucifer_arma
20:03 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/shot-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
20:04 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b_iuIrSGxU a loving tribute to saddam :D
20:05 <spidey> DrJoeTron, drgcon?
20:06 <spidey> er
20:06 <spidey> DrJoeTron, defcon?
20:06 <spidey> #ping
20:06 <armabot> pong
20:06 <DrJoeTron> going to the gym :d
20:06 <spidey> gay
20:06 <DrJoeTron> I bet, fatty
20:06 <spidey> ...
20:06 <DrJoeTron> :D
20:07 <Durka> spidey!!!!! :p
20:07 <spidey> omg
20:07 -!- spidey is now known as notspidey
20:07  * Durka looks for spidey
20:07 <DrJoeTron> bbl
20:07  * Durka cant find him
20:07 -!- Durka is now known as LookingForSpidey
20:13  * LookingForSpidey =_=
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6623 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Updating MacOS project
20:43 <LookingForSpidey> anyone here (spefically spidey :p)
20:46 <notspidey> i fucking hate ctf servers...
20:46 <ghableska> why?
20:46 <notspidey> "res" "respandew" (yes...respandew) 
20:46 <notspidey> over
20:46 <notspidey> and over
20:46 <notspidey> and over
20:46 <notspidey> i made a instant chat "the more you say respawn...the longer you wait!"
20:47 <LookingForSpidey> i dont respawn ppl that say that
20:47 <ghableska> they don't yell "re!"
20:47 <ghableska> ?
20:47 <notspidey> no
20:47 <notspidey> just res
20:47 <notspidey> or respandew
20:47 <ghableska> OMG PLZ RE ME
20:47 <notspidey> wtf is a respandew?
20:47 <LookingForSpidey> #weather 50265
20:47 <armabot> LookingForSpidey: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (1:01 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa. 
20:47 <ghableska> it's 50266 now :P
20:50 <LookingForSpidey> really?
20:50 -!- LookingForSpidey is now known as Durka
20:50 <Durka> #armaservers
20:50 <armabot> Durka: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Strawberry Fields (10 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (5 players) || thekowsklan shooting (4 players) || Palatinum's Place (4 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (3 players) || Tigers (1 more message)
20:50 <ghableska> #lastseen ghableska
20:50 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 9 minutes ago.
20:51 <Durka> #lastseen 4dot
20:51 <armabot> Durka: °¯°¯ 4dot °¯°¯ has last been seen on Fortress Café 15 minutes ago.
20:51 <Durka> ;)
20:51 <Durka> #lastseen g6
20:51 <armabot> Durka: G6 has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 minutes ago.
20:51 <Durka> :p
20:56 <ghableska> http://www.istanbul.tc/mahir/mahir/ <-- real-life Borat.
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> alright, sent off my proposal.  Now we'll see if they buy it.  :)
21:04 <wrtlprnft> good luck Lucifer_arma 
21:04 <wrtlprnft> back btw
21:04 <ghableska> hi
21:05 <wrtlprnft> #google translate german english feuerzangenbowle
21:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.07 seconds: German Drink Recipes: Feuerzangenbowle - Flaming Fire Tongs Punch 2: <http://german.about.com/library/blrezept_feuerzang2.htm>; Feuerzangenbowle - Recipe for Flaming Fire Tongs Punch - German ...: <http://german.about.com/library/blfeuerzangenb.htm>; Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Conventions - Wikipedia, the free ...: (2 more messages)
21:05 <wrtlprnft> errm
21:05 <ghableska> O_o
21:05 <ghableska> flaming fire tongs punch?
21:05  * ghableska goes and looks up the recipe
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> an out of office autoresponder wasn't exactly what I was shooting for...
21:06 <wrtlprnft> it's where you have a pot of wine with some sort-of spices in them, then put a big piece of shugar over it and burn it with alcohol
21:06 <ghableska> ah
21:07 <wrtlprnft> *sugar, no h
21:07 <wrtlprnft> they have the biggest one of the world here in munich right now, and i was there :)
21:07 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: you have some kind of financial program thing, right?
21:08 <wrtlprnft> #last --with "svn co ht" --from Lucifer_arma 
21:08 <luke-jr> #ping
21:08 <luke-jr> ...
21:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [14:24:52] <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/dsbp/trunk/dsbp
21:08 <armabot> pong
21:08 <wrtlprnft> it's busy again
21:08 <wrtlprnft> just be patient with her
21:08 <wrtlprnft> she's an old lady
21:09  * luke-jr stabs armabot
21:09 <luke-jr> bah, it's Python ;p
21:10 <wrtlprnft> how rude of luke-jr
21:10 <Comsn> #armaservers
21:10 <armabot> Comsn: Strawberry Fields (16 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (8 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (4 players) || Palatinum's Place (4 players) || thekowsklan shooting (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (1 more message)
21:10 <Comsn> damn styball full :\
21:11 <wrtlprnft> :)
21:11 <wrtlprnft> just keep trying
21:12 <wrtlprnft> use the --connect command line option and a while true loop in bash
21:12  * luke-jr emerged PyQt4
21:12 <wrtlprnft> and just keep quitting tron as it tells you the server's full
21:12 <Comsn> #serverinfo cafe
21:12 <armabot> Comsn: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): DraXula, Ðûqkå, Luzifer, meteor [--=*], newbtacular, Yoda
21:12 <Comsn> i'll jjust play some fort then :)
21:12 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:12 <wrtlprnft> cafe works?
21:13 <wrtlprnft> wow, my script does more than i think it does
21:13 <Comsn> hehe
21:13 <wrtlprnft> *thought
21:13  * ghableska loves Terragen 2
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=mug
21:21 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo cage
21:21 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: No online players.
21:21 <DrJoeTron> :( 
21:30 <wrtlprnft> it's just that i have enough mugs and know the vim commands by heart anyways
21:30 <wrtlprnft> at least the ones i can use
21:32 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: what happened to the tub?
21:32 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails tub
21:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tub” at the moment, sorry.
21:35 <luke-jr> hey Lucifer_arma
21:35 <luke-jr> how do you run this thing
21:35  * luke-jr ponders rewriting it in Qt
21:36 <wrtlprnft> err, this is qt?
21:36 <luke-jr> no, it's Python
21:36 <wrtlprnft> but qt
21:36 <luke-jr> using Qt classes for GUI
21:36 <wrtlprnft> first you go to database→new db
21:37 <wrtlprnft> qt is no programming language?
21:37 <luke-jr> yes it is
21:37 <wrtlprnft> then select some dir in libdsbp
21:37 <wrtlprnft> and ok
21:37 <luke-jr> where is database?
21:37 <wrtlprnft> errm
21:37 <wrtlprnft> at the top?
21:37 <luke-jr> of?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> the main window
21:38 <luke-jr> how do I get that?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> umm, err
21:38 <wrtlprnft> run the program?
21:38 <luke-jr> how?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> ./dsbp
21:38 <luke-jr> Traceback (most recent call last):
21:38 <luke-jr>   File "./dsbp", line 67, in ?
21:38 <luke-jr>     from libdsbpgui import mainqt
21:38 <luke-jr>   File "/home/luke-jr/src/dsbp/libdsbpgui/mainqt.py", line 31, in ?
21:38 <luke-jr>     from designer.dsmainwindow import Ui_MainWindow
21:38 <luke-jr> ImportError: No module named dsmainwindow
21:38 <wrtlprnft> gah, sec
21:38 <wrtlprnft> 15:16 <wrtlprnft> ImportError: No module named dsmainwindow
21:38 <wrtlprnft> 15:16 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:38 <wrtlprnft> 15:16 <Lucifer_arma> ./build/buildui.py
21:39 <wrtlprnft> then try again
21:40 <wrtlprnft> alternatively try to read the README
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> I hve good news!  I'm not going to jail.
21:40 <luke-jr> luke-jr@tsurukikun dsbp $ cat README
21:40 <luke-jr> spurious edit
21:40 <wrtlprnft> heh, i know
21:40 <wrtlprnft> anyways, it should work after that command
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21:41 <luke-jr> yeah
21:41 <wrtlprnft> unless Lucifer_arma broke something
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> nope, haven't touched it since last night
21:41 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: good to know. now get back to the sound engine, will you? ;)
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21:41 <Lucifer_arma> it does have to be pyqt4 though
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'll get to the sound engine when I a) am a bit more financially secure and b) have time
21:42  * Lucifer_arma is between jobs right now
21:42 <wrtlprnft> 21:12  * luke-jr emerged PyQt4
21:42 <wrtlprnft> i hope that'll be soon x_X
21:42 <wrtlprnft> write your book then
21:42  * guru3 cracks up in laughter and cries after having seen excel saga ep 26
21:42  * Durka watch tank die of laughter
21:42 <luke-jr> is that the hentai one? :o
21:42 <Durka> watches*
21:43 <guru3> luke-jr: it's the 'going too far' one
21:43 <luke-jr> eh
21:43  * luke-jr doesn't remember Excel Saga much
21:43 <guru3> that ep had more visual gags than i could keep up with ><
21:43 <wrtlprnft> excel? the thing with the paperclip?
21:43 <luke-jr> ...
21:44 <luke-jr> I remember the scene where the start was in English
21:44 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft the guy who is supposed to host it hasnt put it up yet
21:44 <luke-jr> "then why should we fly?" "it's all for the production of a low budget movie"
21:44 <guru3> don't remember that ><
21:44 <luke-jr> IIRC like ep 3 or such
21:44 <wrtlprnft> bbl, supper
21:44 <luke-jr> when Excel was trapped in a cave w/ whats-her-name
21:45 <luke-jr> and played some word game
21:45 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: keep me updated :)
21:45 <guru3> could be luke
21:46 <guru3> anyway
21:46 <guru3> while excel saga isn't an all in one sitting anime
21:46 <guru3> it did have some hillarious parts
21:46 <DrJoeTron> meh
21:46 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft 10-4 :D
21:47 <luke-jr> btw
21:47 <DrJoeTron> I liked outlaw star :d
21:47 <luke-jr> what kind of dumb name for a secret organization bent on taking over the world
21:47 <luke-jr> "Across"
21:47 <luke-jr> wtf
21:47 <luke-jr> A-KU-RO-SU
21:48 <guru3> yeah
21:48 <guru3> that's the point of the series tho
21:48 <luke-jr> lame names?
21:48 <guru3> just general stupidity and hillariousness
21:48 <guru3> or something
21:48 <guru3> i had a good time watching it
21:48 <luke-jr> was it ep 1 where the author was killed? :)
21:48 <guru3> yeah
21:48 <guru3> the director popping up in it was great\
21:50 <luke-jr> Nabeshin?
21:50 <DrJoeTron> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009B0KOQ/dealmeinnet-20/ holy fuck!
21:50 <DrJoeTron> I want this
21:50 <guru3> luke-jr: that's the guy
21:50 <guru3> the whole afro gag ><
21:50 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: why?
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: if I thought it had more than a snowball's chance in hell, I'd work on it before finding out if they'll buy it :)
21:51 <guru3> DrJoeTron: i couldn't stoop that low
21:51 <DrJoeTron> whats so bad about these?
21:51 <luke-jr> IIRC, that's the same CPU my desktop uses
21:51 <guru3> it's not that its inherently bad, ive just got so much better hardware ><
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, I broke it somehow
21:51 <DrJoeTron> I'm on an athlon xp 2600+
21:51 <luke-jr> I got it like 2004
21:51 <luke-jr> 2600+ is what? 2002?
21:52 <DrJoeTron> for stuff I do I don't need anything super big
21:52  * luke-jr doesn't expect to do any major upgrades for at least another year
21:52 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: cs:s?
21:53 <Comsn> #serverinfo team sumo
21:53 <armabot> Comsn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (1/12): ~*$P*~<y<lo
21:53 <DrJoeTron> but I mean its only 2 years old
21:53 <DrJoeTron> and its still far better than what I hae
21:53 <DrJoeTron> have*
21:54 <DrJoeTron> its still a good deal
21:54 <DrJoeTron> I mean what are they on now?
21:54 <guru3> FX-62
21:54 -!- SD_away [n=drjames@h18.171.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #armagetron
21:54 <guru3> 5000+
21:55 <guru3> something like that
21:55 -!- SD_away is now known as Self_Destructo
21:55 <DrJoeTron> how much though?
21:55 <Self_Destructo> hey guru
21:55 <Self_Destructo> and joe
21:55 <Self_Destructo> ltns
21:55 <DrJoeTron> yo yo
21:55 <luke-jr> hey Self_Destructo
21:55 <DrJoeTron> but I mean, I buy everything mid grade
21:55 <Self_Destructo> hey lukerz
21:55 <guru3> not too much for me to have a FX60, 2 4800+, 1 4200+ & 1 3800+
21:55 <guru3> :>
21:55 <luke-jr> guru3: where do you get that sort of funding?
21:56 <DrJoeTron> yeah really
21:56 <guru3> not a clue ><
21:56 <DrJoeTron> parents :D
21:56 <guru3> well yeah my dad
21:56 <DrJoeTron> there ya go
21:56 <guru3> but no clue how he saves that sort of money
21:56 <Lucifer_arma> er, it's broke bad
21:57 <DrJoeTron> I'm still on my radeon 9600+
21:57 <luke-jr> I just upgraded to a Radeon X850 :)
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> >>> 71.26+19.85+65.53
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> 156.64000000000001
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> >>> 71.26+19.85+65.53 == 156.64
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> False
21:57 <DrJoeTron> all I need it to play is HL2 and BF2
21:57 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: so?
21:57 <luke-jr> 156.64000000000001 > 156.64
21:57 <guru3> you're growing money lucifer :D
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> I am?
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> and here I thought I was looking at a shitty floating point implementation
21:58 <guru3> that too
21:58 <guru3> but you've got to turn every con into a pro
22:00 <Self_Destructo> HL2 is an awesome game
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> there's a hack.  Format them to a string and force it to clamp it, but that's no cure
22:00 <DrJoeTron> Self_Destructo, I downloaded goldeneye source
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> I need a Money class that uses ints internally and behaves like a float otherwise.  Grrr....
22:01 <DrJoeTron> its pretty much HL2 DM:with goldeneye skins now
22:01 <Lucifer_arma> it's not that bad, actually.  Just store the atomic unit of currency, maybe I'll need to support multiple currencies sooner than intended
22:01 <Durka> #ping
22:01 <armabot> pong
22:01 <Durka> :)
22:05 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: your program looks an awful lot like Eqonomize
22:09 <Self_Destructo> how do I break up a file by each line in php?
22:10 <Self_Destructo> I'm going to take my server log files and insert each line into a mysql db
22:10 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
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22:10 <Self_Destructo> I'm just not sure how explode looks at newlines
22:10 <Self_Destructo> or if it even does
22:11 <luke-jr> why not use the line reading stuff?
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> either read it line by line or do the first explode for the line feed character
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> there should be a function that'll let you iterate through it line by line, though
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> but I forget what it is, I usually get shit from a database
22:12 <Self_Destructo> ook
22:22 <Durka> #pong
22:22 <armabot> ping
22:22 <Durka> #ping
22:22 <armabot> pong
22:22 <Durka> #pong
22:22 <armabot> ping
22:22 <Durka> #ping
22:22 <armabot> pong
22:22 <Durka> #pong
22:22 <armabot> ping
22:22 <Durka> #ping
22:22 <armabot> pong
22:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
22:22 -!- Durka was kicked from #armagetron by luke-jr [User terminated!]
22:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
22:22 -!- Arma48 [n=Arma48@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
22:22 -!- Arma48 is now known as Durka
22:22 <Durka> :p
22:23 <Durka> sry
22:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
22:25 -!- Durka was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [Just so luke doesn't get ahead of me in kick counts]
22:25 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
22:25 <luke-jr> lol
22:25 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: 10-4 what?
22:26 <wrtlprnft> now they're fighting for kick counts…
22:26 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma is, anyhow
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> can you really say with total confidence that kicking Durka is a bad thing?
22:26 <wrtlprnft> cmon, he said sorry, and it was his first kick IIRC
22:26 <wrtlprnft> durka isn't totally bad
22:26 <Self_Destructo> what was he kicked for?
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, neither is spidey
22:27 <wrtlprnft> the first time for spamming
22:27 <wrtlprnft> the second time because Lucifer_arma is a dick
22:27 <Self_Destructo> wow
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> :)
22:27 <luke-jr> lol
22:27 <Self_Destructo> i was like... spam... that's all?
22:27 <wrtlprnft> yeah :(
22:27 <luke-jr> erm
22:27 <Self_Destructo> man I remeber this place was constaly spammed
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, in luke's defense, durka spams a *lot*
22:27 <wrtlprnft> they're sort of looking for ways to exercise their power
22:27 <Self_Destructo> ah
22:27 <luke-jr> last I checked, spamming in most channels gets a kick
22:27  * wrtlprnft remembers luke-jr spamming himself
22:28 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: go spam #gentoo and let me know when they don't kick you
22:28 <Self_Destructo> lol
22:28 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: #gentoo is a big channel
22:28 <wrtlprnft> this one is small, and i'm happy if someone is active in it
22:28 <luke-jr> ...
22:28 <wrtlprnft> if it's not a total idiot
22:29 <luke-jr> if it was #weather, or #listservers or something useful, I can see that being acceptable
22:29 <luke-jr> but just #ping and #pong... that often
22:29 <wrtlprnft> #alias remove pong
22:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:30  * wrtlprnft doesn't see how #weather is useful
22:30 <luke-jr> #weather 64150
22:30 <wrtlprnft> it's only useful for the guy who uses the command
22:30 <armabot> luke-jr: The current temperature in Kansas City, Missouri is 55.4°F (3:24 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa. 
22:30 <luke-jr> so?
22:30 <wrtlprnft> and that can easily be done in private chat
22:30 <wrtlprnft> /msg armabot weather 12345
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, we have lots of little pissing contests over who's got the worst/best weather
22:31 <wrtlprnft> if you're actually talking about weather, ok
22:31 <wrtlprnft> but if you enter the channel, say #weather 12345, then leave again it doesn't do anyone any good
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> and if it weren't for weather, ghableska (hi there!)  would never talk at all!
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, GodTodd (hi there!) ping
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> then kick the guy who left...
22:32  * luke-jr hasn't seen that
22:33 <wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop $ cat ~/irclogs/FreeNode/\#armagetron.log | grep '<ghableska> hi' | wc -l               ~/dsbp
22:33 <wrtlprnft> 242
22:33 <wrtlprnft> you can hardly say he wouldn't takk at all
22:33 <wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop $ cat ~/irclogs/FreeNode/\#armagetron.log | grep '<ghableska> #weather' | wc -l         ~/dsbp
22:33 <wrtlprnft> 210
22:34 <wrtlprnft> he even said hi more often than he used the weather command
22:34 <luke-jr> why is ~/dsbp at the end of that?
22:34 <wrtlprnft> because i was in that dir?
22:34 <wrtlprnft> experimating with Lucifer_arma's thingy
22:34 <wrtlprnft> #g (210+242) / 5802
22:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (210 + 242) / 5,802 = 0.077904171
22:35 <wrtlprnft> wow, .078 of ghableska's lines were weather or hi
22:35 <wrtlprnft> that's almost a tenth x_X
22:35  * luke-jr notes Lucifer_arma didn't claim ghableska used #weather only
22:36 <wrtlprnft> he said that ghableska would never talk if it weren't for weather
22:36 <luke-jr> so?
22:36 <wrtlprnft> which isn't true :P
22:36 <luke-jr> maybe it is
22:36 <luke-jr> maybe #weather spawns discussions ghableska takes part in
22:36 <wrtlprnft> not really
22:36 <wrtlprnft> he sometimes joins in discussions that didn't feature the #weather command
22:37 <wrtlprnft> 20:56 <ghableska> http://www.istanbul.tc/mahir/mahir/ <-- real-life Borat.
22:37 <wrtlprnft> bbl
22:42 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6624 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/language/ (french.txt spanish.txt): fixed main menu.
22:44 <notspidey> grep Vanhayes's
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> #kick notspidey
22:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, now I really need a working printer on this machine
22:45  * Lucifer_arma goes to search for his printer driver disk.  that's right, his printer came with a CD that included linux drivers.
22:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
22:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by luke-jr
22:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
22:46 <guru3> neato lucifer
22:46 <luke-jr> #roulette
22:46 <@armabot> luke-jr: *click*
22:46 <luke-jr> phew
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> it irritates me when I look for my printer driver disk and find my MSVC6 disk instead
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
22:47 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> haha, the driver disk was in the cd-rom
22:48 <luke-jr> lol
22:51 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: you have a point
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> why isn't it being read completely?  grrr....
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> wait, didn't I download the driver at some point?
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: about you never talking without #weather?
22:52 <ghableska> yeah
22:55 <notspidey> #weather 38256
22:55 <@armabot> notspidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 56.5°F (3:55 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa. 
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> #cnn 78717
22:56 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Round Rock, TX is 55.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 50%. Wind: SW at 3 mph (5 km/h).
22:56 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:56 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 48.7°F (3:52 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.11 in 985.7 hPa. 
22:57 <ghableska> #roulette
22:57 -!- ghableska was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
22:57  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:57 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@] has joined #Armagetron
22:58 <luke-jr> :p
22:58 <ghableska> -_-
22:58 <luke-jr> hum
22:58 <luke-jr> KBudget falls shor
22:58 <luke-jr> t
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
22:58 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
22:58 <ghableska> #roulette
22:58 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
22:59 -!- Arma76 [n=Arma76@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
22:59 -!- Arma76 is now known as Durka
22:59 <Durka> lol luci
22:59 <luke-jr> ...
23:00 <Durka> he kicked me so he could get ahead of u in kick counts
23:00 <luke-jr> no rly?
23:01 <Vanhayes> #roulette
23:01 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
23:01 <Durka> #ping
23:01 <@armabot> pong
23:02 <luke-jr> Durka: #roulett
23:02 <luke-jr> Durka: #roulette
23:02 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: #roulette
23:03 <Vanhayes> #roulette
23:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
23:03 <Vanhayes> dont be pussies
23:04 <Durka> #roulette
23:04 -!- Durka was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
23:04  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:04 <Vanhayes> ha
23:04 -!- Arma27 [n=Arma27@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
23:04 -!- Arma27 is now known as Durka
23:04 <Durka> [14:04] You've been kicked out of #armagetron by armabot (BANG!) 
23:04 <Durka> ???
23:07 <luke-jr> lol
23:11  * ghableska attempts to start a conversation not related to #weather
23:15  * Lucifer_arma helps ghableska
23:20 <ghableska> heh
23:20 <ghableska> well, it's a start
23:21  * Lucifer_arma is trying to setup a printer, again
23:21 -!- Arma21 [n=Arma21@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
23:22 <Arma21> #hello
23:22 <@armabot> Hello Arma21 :) Random Fortune: Maybe I should just cut my losses, give up on Lisa, and make a fresh || start with Maggie. || -- Homer Simpson || Lisa's Pony
23:22 <Arma21> hmmm I'm already logged in
23:22 <Arma21> can someone kick Durka
23:22 <Arma21> actually lemme try this
23:22 -!- Arma21 [n=Arma21@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
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23:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
23:23 -!- Durka was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [User terminated!]
23:23 <Arma07> thnx
23:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
23:23 -!- Arma07 [n=Arma07@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
23:23 -!- Arma53 [n=Arma53@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
23:23 -!- Arma53 is now known as Durka_
23:24 <Durka_> thnx
23:25 <luke-jr> Freeciv anyone?
23:26 <notspidey> i would but i can't
23:26 <notspidey> well
23:26 <notspidey> maybe i can
23:26 <luke-jr> lame
23:26 <notspidey> i'm hosting a 8 slot soldat server
23:26 <notspidey> it's been full since last night
23:26 <notspidey> they love my mods :D
23:27 <notspidey> i made a chainsaw into a teleporter....
23:27 <notspidey> but with 8 people in it i still get 60pings on halo and i don't lag...so i don't see why i would in freeciv
23:32 <luke-jr> ...
23:32 <luke-jr> as if lag is a big problem in freeciv anyhow
23:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: 
23:33 <luke-jr> GodTodd: Self_Destructo Vanhayes mkzelda
23:33 <notspidey> sure it is
23:33 <DrJoeTron> I'm trying to figure out the  benefits of being an eagle scout
23:33 <DrJoeTron> if there is any
23:33 <notspidey> why the hell would i want to go from a 20 second delay to a 2 minute delay
23:33 <notspidey> screw that :p
23:34 <DrJoeTron> alls Ive collected was old people love you
23:36 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: civ :p
23:36 <DrJoeTron> buh?
23:36 <luke-jr> Freeciv
23:36 <luke-jr> notspidey: hachi.dashjr.org 555
23:36 <luke-jr> 5
23:37 <luke-jr> don't forget 1tpd on 5550 too
23:59 <Durka_> #ping
23:59 <@armabot> pong
23:59 <ghableska> notspidey: soldat?
23:59 <notspidey> 'er
23:59 <notspidey> i'm in lala land
23:59 <notspidey> what did you want?

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